CHRIS CUOMO: Since you've left power, do you believe it has become less stable?
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: Yes, absolutely.
CHRIS CUOMO: Is there more of a threat to extremists getting a foothold on control in Pakistan now?
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: Well, extremists-- are more threatening all right. And the Taliban and the Taliban addition (?) that was happening in Swat. But now they have been pushed back and I think-- while-- if I was to compare, in my time, certainly it is much more than that. But I think we are-- succeeding.
CHRIS CUOMO: Is Pakistan as good a friend to the United States now as it was when you were there?
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: I would like to ask if United States a good friend now of Pakistan. As we were, from '47 to '89, for 42 years, Pakistan was a very good friend, has always been very loyal, even to-- even when the people were thinking that we are some kind of-- puppets of the Americans. Even then, Pakistan was always in the western camp.
And it is now I would like to ask, and because the people of Pakistan ask, is United States going to again, abandon or ditch us, having used us again as they did between '79 and '89, in 1989? So instead of asking whether Pakistan would be more friendly, I would like to, on behalf of the people of Pakistan, ask United States. How serious are they, in aid of Pakistan, in the support of Pakistan, for the welfare of the people of Pakistan?
CHRIS CUOMO: Do you feel that the United States has not been supportive enough?
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: Yes, certainly, I think so. As I told you, in the history of Pakistan-- there have been-- sanctions against Pakistan. When we needed equipment, there have been sanctions. When we were threatened, they were-- they were sanctioned and there were impediments in that. We were abandoned in 1989, as I told you, for 12 years.
All the upheaval in Pakistan is because of that. We were all alone, and the Mujahidin were al Qaeda and the Taliban and Kashmir-- everything was happening. Its impact on the social fabric of Pakistan. The United States was not assisting us at all. We were all alone. That is why the people of Pakistan ask these questions. So-- I think-- we need to be clear on-- that the United States, is it going to show concern or sensitivity to Pakistan's concerns and Pakistan's national interests? And that is what the United States ought to be doing, to get closer to the people of Pakistan, as they were, beyond '47 up to '89.
CHRIS CUOMO: Does that mean invest more capital there?
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: Not necessarily. I've always, in fact, been saying-- we ought to increase trade and not aid. I've been saying that. Economy of Pakistan doesn't need injection of money. Injection of money-- it is the-- it's the (UNINTEL) trade, because trade means expansion of industry, new factories, new jobs, and therefore poverty alleviation, reduction in un-- unemployment.
That is the bigger gift. I have been always insisting on United States give us more-- give us an FTS, featured agreement. Give us additional quota for our textiles and to-- United States. That will expand our industrial base and give us jobs and poverty alleviation. Don't give us money.
CHRIS CUOMO: Do you think President Obama has been an improvement?
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF: President Obama has intentions of improvement.
CHRIS CUOMO: Intentions of improvement. What does that mean?