Cuomo: You think it will all just go away when you have elections?
Musharraf: Well, I wouldn't say that everything will go away. No. We'll keep fighting terrorism. And the opposition here, it's not like other countries. The opposition keeps agitating. I know they will start saying, for example, that whoever loses here -- we are very bad losers.They'll keep saying that they'll -- the election has not been fair. And I'm saying it just now. Even now, before the election, they'll keep saying that. And then whoever loses, elections have not been fair.
And anyone with -- boycotts for example. Some had boycotted. One or two had boycotted. But they are -- now they are carrying on saying that the elections should not have been held. For whatever reason, I mean I don't know why they are boycotted in any case.
Cuomo: Do you think you can recover from what's being called your second coup? The emergence and acts of government that you did. Do you think you can recover from what's being called the second coup. That the powerful political position has caused some distress among the people in here. How do you think you can regain their trust that you want to do what's right for Pakistan?
Musharraf: I will call the opposition. The opposition has all around been behaving as they are behaving since five years. They have been behaving like this. They have all along these five years tried to destabilize me -- and the government. Trying their best to -- all along for the five years. Now as far as the other part, what did you ask? Sorry. The...
Cuomo: You said the emergency rule is necessary to deal with security threat and extremists. But you wound up putting many people in jail who were political opponents. Judges, media. Made people think, "That's who Musharraf thinks the extremists are?"
Cuomo: ... The opponents. It doesn't engender a lot of confidence in you that you believe in democracy.
Musharraf: Yes. No, that, that is not the case. Now that is exactly when I said, "Let's do it the hard way." ... After the speech that I gave after the oath taking. You have to understand, we don't want agitation here. We are going in for politics. We don't want agitational politics. Agitation means breaking down everything, burning things. Right? Now if they are going to do that, we will not allow it. But this is not an agitation where in the West people come with placards and they go away and streets are very clean. Here they'll burn down everything. They'll burn cars and motorcycles. That cannot be allowed. So therefore if anyone is trying to do that, we will stop it. That is the way it is in Pakistan.
Cuomo: You said we want civilized politics, not confrontation politics.
Cuomo: Your opponents say, though, that you're saying you don't want opposition. You're saying you don't want them burning the streets. Your critics say, "No, he doesn't want any opposition. If you say you're against him, he throws you in jail. If you say you're against him and you're chief of the court, he locks you in your home." This is not a good impression.