So that is -- we must understand the realities- - so it's not on the rise. It's gone down. Let me tell you if you reflect back about four or five years, all these -- extremist organizations who have banned, they used to have professions. They used to address big gatherings. And there used to be hundred masked men with Kalashnikov standing.
Show me one in Pakistan now. Show me one in Pakistan. Where people will be standing with weapons. Not one. This is our success. You must...and just go back four or five years and see all the meetings there.... They're not an organization. They used to have thousands of people standing and people guarding with no police could enter. So today, not one. And they used to move -- their leader used to move with three vehicles up from -- in the front and the rear with people with mask and Kalashnikovs. Show me one man doing this in Pakistan?
Cuomo: While there is the progress, are there also areas where you're still challenged or do you think you have it all under control?
Musharraf: No. (Laughs) We don't have it -- please don't take the [unintelligible] No, we don't have it -- in control. Let's be very clear. In the Fattah there is al Qaeda. I told you and I've been saying this. They are there. We are fighting them. They are mostly Uzbeks and some Arabs.
Cuomo: But you don't believe that they're moving into other areas?
Musharraf: No other... the foreigners are not moving into other areas except Uzbeks where they're in Suwah. Because if the Suwah, this area has linkages with Bajor agency. Now that is where they were coming from. Now that we have cut them off, I am sure we will finish this uprising here in Suwah Valley. In a few days maybe.
Now they're there. And they exist. The militant Taliban. They have linkages. They provide support. Maybe money. Maybe explosives. And then there are local -- local tribals, especially in south and north Wuziristan, who are doing militant, who are the militant Taliban.
They are the ones who are going across Afghanistan also. And they harbor people coming across from Afghanistan. And they are the people who carry out suicide attacks here. They train people to carry out suicide attacks in Pakistan. Now this is the reality. Whether they are -- we are defeating them. Now in the settled areas certainly we are defeating them. Absolutely. Positively. We are dealing with the northern district and we'll win.
In the southern districts where they were extending beyond south Wuziristan and north Wuziristan in the ... third district, we are- there's a district called Pank. This was totally disturbed. The Taliban used to come from Wuziristan and they used to attack and do everything there.
Pankia (a rural province in North West Pakistan) is peaceful today. And there's a division headquarter there. There's a general. We can tell him to receive you. See [unintelligible] Pankia. It's totally peaceful. There is one area there which I don't want to name, because we maybe we act there after, once we've dealt with in the north. We thought we shouldn't take both of them together. We'll deal with one. We'll go to the other one.