Now that is the situation. So in certain situation -- and in-- and in intelligence we are cooperating fully. And who has more intelligence? The intelligence is human intelligence, technical intelligence, aerial intelligence. Who has technical intelligence and aerial intelligence?
Cuomo: The U.S.
Musharraf: Yes, sir. But we cooperate very well. So if there's a failure, it's not Pakistan's failure. Please don't accuse us.
Cuomo: It's not that you don't wanna act on the intelligence. That you're torn about whether or not to aggressively go into the areas where the terrorists are?
Musharraf: No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all. Wherever we see targets, we hit them. ... Now the methodology of hitting them is worked out together.
Cuomo: Right. You've said in the past you would like that someone else take care of Osama bin Laden. That it's complicated for you. That it's tricky about what would happen. If you were to capture him you don't know whether you'd give him to the United States. Those type of comments raise a suspicion about how dedicated you are ... to that mission. ... But the reality is it's complicated for you.
Musharraf: Yes, it is.
Cuomo: Osama bin Laden. A lot of people ... are in... favor of him here.
Musharraf: I spoke the truth, but that doesn't -- that doesn't mean that we won't handle the situation. If we get it, that we can -- we will handle the situation. Obviously. But I was just expressing a wish, very frankly -- well, I shouldn't have done it, maybe.
Cuomo: You shouldn't have done it because when you say, "We'd rather somebody else do it," it raises questions ... about how aggressive you wanna be on it, right?
Musharraf: No, I don't think it should have created that doubt, because we are extremely aggressive on any targets that we see. When we see targets and we hit them, you don't see faces. You know that this is the enemy.
The -- they are doing training. They are together, they are doing military training and we hit them. Now we don't know whether Osama bin Laden is there or [unintelligible] is there or anyone is there. We may be having some intelligence that so and so may be there. So...
Cuomo: If you knew where Osama bin Laden was, would you go in and get him and turn him over to the United States?
Musharraf: Well, let's not go into the semantics, but we will get the target. Yes, indeed. Absolutely.
Cuomo: Even if it were Osama bin Laden?
Cuomo: And you would turn him over to the U.S.?
Musharraf: Let's not talk about whether we will turn him over to the U.S. ... or we do something here. How will we behave? Within... we'll treat him very well or we'll beat him up or something. (LAUGHS) Why get into that?
Cuomo: But it's a big question certainly to the Americans. This is enemy number one for them. They wanna know that their friend in Pakistan is on the same page. And that if you caught Osama bin Laden he'd turn him over.
Musharraf: I think the people who need to know know it. And I don't think the media is the one who needs to know.
Cuomo: Why is it something you wanna be careful about?
Musharraf: It's a very sensitive issue. It's a sensitive issue in the people of Pakistan. So why -- why get -- why arouse sentimentalities?
Cuomo: Because it's also a sensitive issue to your friends in America.
Musharraf: Well, come over Pakistan.