Transcript for Fears of a Larger War in the Middle East
Hello I'm -- -- and and welcome to news makers on ABC news and Yahoo! News we're here in London with Roger Boyes the diplomatic editor. Of the times newspapers that a foreign correspondent for 35 years he's an old hand. In the Middle East and Roger we're here talking -- a column that you recently wrote. For the times you say that the chaos in the events in the Middle East quote should keep us awake at night sounds like nightmare. -- tell -- -- when different uncontrollable events coincide multiple crises coincides. People lose track -- -- people. Try to focus on individual crisis each time they don't realize that things are into connecting. And then you wake up and you -- -- to. The war -- you wake up to something really really dreadful and I think this is and this is what I'm marketing ready. This is what's happening out of the Middle East and we're not really next thing you say that this is as ominous. As 1914. Why does this remind you of the days or months before world war. Well what happens in the run up to 1914. Was that you had lots of detained. Empires. Locked into. Alliances which they thought would never -- activated. And these women trinket and forcing several countries and several and -- into -- corner and into armed action. And something similar is happening and in -- William Hague the British foreign secretary. Made a different analogy but is also to do with the interconnectivity necessary he said this is like the financial crash. And the financial what he meant was done. That we didn't understand how markets into connected and so we were completely ambushed by it we didn't understand that. Crises multiple crises can come together and produced. Dreadful results and this is what's happening -- and we getting. Several countries on the brink of several states on the brink of collapse simultaneously and we have. One country in war Syria we have one country in -- civil war Egypt. And we have at least four countries on the brink of on the brink of collapse or -- states Yemen for example Lebanon for example. -- -- sporting a product. All these things are happening and -- not noticing because a segment to it we we think gosh Iraq's and MS again. But actually we have multiple masses and the rule weaving together. And it wouldn't take much now to set the fuselage it. And to an American who's watching this who would say -- -- -- that's Middle East that's -- far away away from my home. -- California or Kansas or Florida or Michigan. What would you say to that person about why they should care about what's going well for us a lot of Americans think that the -- existence of Israel is. Absolutely essential to them. And quite rightly so so that's the first reason to worry. The second is jihadist have around an unpleasant habit of moving outside -- safe areas so the collapse of yen and may seem something very -- For somebody in Oklahoma but that connection. Will become apparent to nineteen months time when some kids. Blows himself up in a shopping mall that's because that's the way it goes now. That's the nature of global terror and global disorder and that's what -- -- and so do you believe that the west is turning a blind guy. To what's happening in the Middle East and not quite understanding. The importance of what's happening. Yes there isn't there is a failure of imagination. In the west. Two says that special. -- -- has -- be made by decision makers who inevitably are looking backwards and looking back to 99 overlooking. You know they'll go on holiday with these -- -- biographies of leadership -- -- And they read them on the beaches all or off off the golf course -- whatever and it's. But they should be looked it if they should be Ron -- that you wouldn't to. How crises. Of collapsing states. Accelerate. And his. Does not that many models for it it's not very interesting holiday reading. They don't want to know about it. Everybody's got a very persuasive domestic agenda amendment and it doesn't -- -- feet into into anything that. And this is the promise not a unique problem I mean we've you know we've overlooked all sorts of crises in the past. But this one's a particularly dangerous one and that's what I want to highlight is it possible -- optimistically here or not. -- it's not possible to think of an optimistic solution -- we can do is. Reduce. Collateral damage -- suffering of civilians. And try to talk reason I never stopped talking to that region. About am. But I have no no ounce of optimism about what's -- to come out of this crisis.
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