Transcript: White House Senior Advisor David Plouffe

MATALIN: Can I speak to that? He did not speak well to that. It is not taxpayer subsidies. It is not amnesty. When you have a border problem the likes of Texas, because of the failure of the Feds -- and he has 10 times more illegals than Massachusetts, for instance -- then you have to deal with that problem.

He's not subsidizing their education. He's saying, if you have a residency requirement, three years there, you've graduated from high school, you pledged to -- citizenship, then we're going to give you in-state tuition, which is arguably fiscally responsible, more fiscally responsible...

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MATALIN: ... than letting these uneducated illegals become a ward of the state or go into crime. He didn't make that argument. That argument is there to be made. It will be made. And any -- even the most Attila the Hun right-winger would understand that as a positive achievement.

BRAZILE: And it had bipartisan support in the Texas legislature; 13 states have a similar DREAM Act. It's a pathway for success for our undocumented immigrants. And I think -- you're right. I think he can make that argument, but that will put him in trouble with a lot of the Tea Party Republicans, who want a real, true conservative. As Michele Bachmann would say, we don't want to sell out this time.

WILL: And that's the next question facing the Republicans: Will Rick Perry bring his A game to the next debate? Or have we seen his A game? In which case, that's alarming.

AMANPOUR: And you will all hopefully continue to debate this in the green room at abcnews.com/thisweek.

And when we return, after a tough week, what can jump-start the Palestinian-Israeli peace talks? I'll ask the top Palestinian negotiator Hanan Ashrawi.

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AMANPOUR: A triumphant homecoming today for the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas. Abbas was greeted by cheering crowds in Ramallah, fresh off his trip to the United Nations, where he demanded that Palestine be recognized as a state, a move that is vigorously opposed by both President Obama and the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, who on Friday called for direct negotiations right now.

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NETANYAHU: We've both just flown thousands of miles to New York. Now we're in the same city. We're in the same building. If we genuinely want peace, what is there to stop us from meeting today and beginning peace negotiations?

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AMANPOUR: And joining me now, Hanan Ashrawi, a top Palestinian negotiator.

Thank you for being with us.

ASHRAWI: Thank you, Christiane. It's good to be here.

AMANPOUR: It's really good to have you and to talk about this really important issue.

ASHRAWI: Absolutely.

AMANPOUR: Is there a day after? President Abbas did what he did; prime minister of Israel has said, come on, let's talk, let's not wave papers around. Is there negotiations in the offing?

ASHRAWI: Well, you know what we've been doing for the last 20 years. We've been negotiating, Christiane. We've been negotiating ad nauseum with a process that had no relationship to reality. That's the problem.

AMANPOUR: So what happens now, though? Now we're in a new situation.

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