'This Week' Transcript: Secretary Hillary Clinton, Sen. John McCain

CLINTON: Well, let me take each piece of that very quickly. We're going to fight where we need to fight. We will talk if there's an opportunity to talk. And we will keep building toward a more secure, stable future for Afghanistan.

And to that tend, we have red lines for any talking or any agreement. With whomever we talk, they have to abide by the following: They must renounce violence. They must renounce any and all ties to Al Qaida. And most importantly, for the future of Afghanistan, they must commit to abide by the laws and constitution of Afghanistan, which protect the rights of ethnic minorities and women.

So I am very clear, as I was on my just recent visit to Afghanistan, that I am, you know, not going to support any peace agreement that gives up the hard-won rights of the Afghan people. And in particular, I have a commitment to the women of Afghanistan.

AMANPOUR: I wonder if you can finally just give us what you know about the latest message from the U.S. embassy in Nairobi, which has issued a warning to Americans that it has credible evidence of an imminent terror attack against Westerners there?

CLINTON: Well, as you know, Christiane, we follow this very closely. And it is our responsibility, first and foremost, to take care of Americans everywhere in the world.

We have been getting threats from Al-Shabaab against Americans and Westerners. So it's a very dangerous, uncertain situation. And we want to be sure that whatever information we have, we immediately present to Americans who live, work or may be visiting in Kenya.

AMANPOUR: So Al-Shabaab, the Al Qaida offshoot, that's who's threatening?

CLINTON: Well, I'm not going to get into specifics, but they've been public in their threats. You can look at coverage over the last weeks that they've threatened Kenya, they have threatened Westerners. So Al-Shabaab remains a very serious threat, which is why we have taken action against them and are supporting further action.

AMANPOUR: Secretary Clinton, thank you very much, indeed.

CLINTON: Thank you, Christiane. Good to talk to you.

AMANPOUR: So big international challenges still ahead for the United States. In a moment, I'll be speaking with Senator John McCain, who joins us from Jordan.

With me here in the studio is Bob Kagan of the Brookings Institution, a former official in the Reagan State Department, Time magazine managing editor Rick Stengel, who's been traveling with Secretary Clinton all week, and ABC's senior foreign affairs correspondent Martha Raddatz, who was with the secretary in Libya.

Let me ask you quickly about Iraq. They're putting the best face on what they have to do, which is to come out, but the military wanted to keep more people in.

RADDATZ: The military -- senior military leaders really wanted to keep at the very least 3,000 to 5,000 U.S. military members in to help train, as you mentioned in the beginning, logistical problems, medevac, the Air Force. They wanted some presence on the ground. There are also a lot of diplomats on the ground, too, and it's sort of a force protection not only for the military, but to help protect those diplomats, as well.

AMANPOUR: And, Bob, how is this playing in the region, this quite sudden removal? I know the agreement was to pull them out, but there was meant to be a residual force. How is this playing out in the region?

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