Transcript: Newt Gingrich and Howard Dean

HAASS: But, still, it gives a bit of a compartment. It gives a little bit of deniability. It's easier to say for the president, for this president, Mr. Obama, that this is not going to lead to policy changes. That's why it's OK to use...

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STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, and that's exactly the thing you saw. The White House went -- they were vehement that there -- Bill Clinton didn't talk about anything, anything, anything except humanitarian aid, getting those journalists back. He had no message for President Obama.

DOWD: Well, I know. But I think anybody -- it's hard to make that distinction when Bill Clinton goes over there. His wife is the secretary of state. Anybody around the world is going to think no matter what we say that Barack Obama either permitted it or sent him on this -- on this trip.

And so I think there is a fear about a policy thing that, did this stand for U.S. policy? And are we going to go around the world apologizing to people in order to get captives back? I think that's the problem.

You cannot separate Bill Clinton from this administration, no matter how...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Impossible, even though he's had a very tense relationship, not a close relationship to President Obama at all.

DOWD: Nobody around the world sees it that way.

DONALDSON: Matthew...

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NOONAN: Oh, he's big dog. He's big dog.

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NOONAN: Big dog got the girls back. It's fine.

DONALDSON: Excuse me. If there's a fear...

(LAUGHTER)

(CROSSTALK)

DONALDSON: ... not be right. Have your fear, but there's no reality yet. Is there going to be a reality? Will we change our policy because...

STEPHANOPOULOS: But, Sam, you mentioned the hikers in Iran. What was interesting about that is that the Iranians moved the hikers...

DONALDSON: To Tehran.

STEPHANOPOULOS: ... from the Kurdish border to Tehran after the North Korean mission...

DONALDSON: All right, fine. We'll send Bill Clinton.

STEPHANOPOULOS: ... so they've taken control.

DONALDSON: I'll be happy to send -- let's send...

ROBERTS: Expecting somebody to come and...

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DONALDSON: Clinton and Carter and Bush, and the other Bush, and get...

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DOWD: I just don't think it's necessarily in the United States' interest to have somebody, Bill Clinton, out on an apology tour, just to run -- no matter what public policy...

DONALDSON: What did he apologize for?

DOWD: He went to North Korea, and he apologized on their behalf for having violated...

STEPHANOPOULOS: But, Matthew, I mean, what...

DOWD: ... for having been violated their law and them coming into the country. He went and made an apology in order to get them back.

DONALDSON: Well, if they violated their law...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Put yourself back in...

DONALDSON: Just a minute. If they violated their law, what's wrong with saying, "We're sorry it happened"? Should we stand up throughout the world and say we were wrong...

DOWD: That's all I'm saying, is do we want the U.S. -- it's a question to be asked.

DONALDSON: ... and we'll admit it?

DOWD: Do we want the U.S. government to be put in the position where they wander around the world apologizing in order to get captives back?

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