WILL: ... mayor. A black city may be about to elect, for the first time in, what, two generations, a white mayor. Now, that indicates a, kind of, coming of the real color-blind nature of our politics.
MYERS: The same thing may (ph) happen in Atlanta. GILLESPIE: No, I think -- the (inaudible), George, is that it's -- we're moving the goal posts in a good way. You know, we've always got to do better, but the fact is, I can tell you, my children have grown up in a more color-blind society than I grew up in, and I grew up in a more color-blind society than my parents grew up in. And we have made great progress.
The election of President Obama was a proud moment for the United States of America in that regard.
But, that said, I think what you see is an American public that says, you know what, we've got to keep striving. And I think that's a positive thing.
BROWNSTEIN: Each cohort -- each younger cohort in American life is more diverse than the one older. We are becoming inexorably a more diverse society. This was the first election in American history more than a quarter of the voters were nonwhite. That number isn't going down. It's only going up.
Now, having said that, there is a red flag out there that goes back to what George was saying before, I think. There are very -- there are divergent views between white and nonwhite America over the role of government, and that is widening at a really -- almost at an ominous rate.
I mean, white America is moving, I think, by and large, in a very, kind of, Perot-esque direction. There is, kind of, a backlash against some of the ambition of what Obama is pursuing and the Democrats pursuing across the board, whereas there is much more tolerance in nonwhite America for a larger, more expansive federal role.
And that skepticism about institutions that you see in big chunks of the white electorate, contrasted with the support in the nonwhite electorate, is, kind of, an unstable phenomenon.
STEPHANOPOULOS: It's going to reach such tension next year, as the president goes forward. We're going to take a break in just a minute.
Before we do, there's a new book out by President Obama's campaign manager, David Bluff -- Plouffe -- called "The Audacity to Win."
And, Reverend Sharpton, there's a fascinating little excerpt about you in the book. He describes a moment on Christmas Eve 2007, very close race in Iowa, where President -- then Senator Obama calls Plouffe as Plouffe is in church, because he's worried -- he's gotten word that you might be coming to Iowa, and that is not entirely good news for him.
On the one hand, if you're coming to endorse Hillary Clinton, they're fine with that, but they felt that, if you were coming to endorse him, it might create problems for Obama that they didn't want. The way it ends us, you don't come. They say you played a constructive role the rest of the campaign. What happened?
SHARPTON: There was a group that tried to get me to come in, and I think they were -- this was at the time when they were trying to really go for these race politics and miscast...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Coming for Obama.
SHARPTON: No, they wanted me to come in, period, on a race issue, which, really, you'd have to be hard-pressed to really deal with that in Iowa.