Transcript for Bachmann: Campaign Can Be Revived
And so it's a good Sunday morning for Herman Cain riding high and that new Iowa poll. But -- also good for congresswoman Michelle Bachmann who's lost a lot of ground in a short period of time and she joins me this morning from Cedar Rapids. Good morning congressman thank you for joining us. Good morning. So let me ask you the new would you Moines register poll has -- now at fourth languishing when we've just been saying that just two months ago you would tied to the top. Is -- gonna take some kind of a miracle now to resurrect -- campaign. What we're doing exactly what we need to do it again I just -- her mind you that I wanna Iowa's straw poll. In less time than any other candidate the first woman to ever when I was drop all I'm doing exactly what I need to do in -- -- here. All across the state meeting with people multiple times every day. And so it's amazing how what a difference several weeks can make it at the course -- presidential campaigns -- these are snapshots in time and we're looking forward to January 3. So do you think it means you -- -- that you've lost some momentum though because it's not actually just Iowa and was you've been spending huge amounts of time that. But also according to CNN opinion research poll even in New Hampshire -- seventh in South Carolina. You six are you concerned about the deflation the. We're not worried about the database snapshots what we're focused on -- the primary dates at a course everything changes by then. As the dollar -- -- a last cycle of the presidential race it was Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani who are at the top of the charts. Not John McCain in yet he became the nominee. And so we're doing the fundamentals it's very hard work to campaign. And we're focusing not focusing -- greeting people meeting with that and getting our positive message which is pro growth and job creation. I'm a former federal tax lawyer an average operator at a working for five years at the tip of the -- Washington. For the issues that people care about that so we're talking about on the campaign trail and so what we're focused on -- actual primary days. Well there is the -- state which is in about two months from now. Is as -- -- campaign manager has said is Iowa for you a must win states. -- course we're focused on island were focused on the schedule and the primary process. I was the first caucus that -- New Hampshire. And after that the first in the south which of -- South Carolina so we're focused on the schedule that the states are now agreeing on. And that's our that's our ordered -- hit a must win -- What we're focused -- -- -- we are all the states and so we're we're. What would happen anywhere at any -- all of them if you didn't -- that what would happen how could you sort of rationalized going forward with that junior -- think. We -- really the most important thing right now is the positive message that we're putting out. In every state people see me as a reformer and a fighter. That's what sets me apart in this race for all of the candidates I spent five years in Washington DC at the tip of the spear. I was the lead person fighting -- Obama against Obama care. I wrote the bill to repeal obamacare and I wrote the bill to repeal dot -- that jobs and housing destruction act. That's what people see I've exercised leadership in Washington DC. If people know that I say what I mean. And I mean what I say and they know they can trust me I don't flip flop I stand strong and issues and I fight and that's what we need in the White House to take -- President Obama. For 2012. Comes -- -- -- told about some of the issues you have quoted a declaration of war. That's the -- by Iran the alleged plot to assassinate the Saudi diplomat here in the United States you've called that an act of war. As a president as president Bachmann. What would you do how would you retaliate to an act of war on American soil. I think the one thing that I would do that is very different from -- I wouldn't take my high office that fundamental problem in the Middle East today. Which is an -- -- seeking to gain and nuclear weapon. This will change course of history once that occurs. And what I would do is take everything at our disposal. To make sure that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon they've already stated that they would use a nuclear weapon to wipe Israel off the face of the map. That must never occur. Iran has also stated they would be willing to use a nuclear weapon against United States of America I think if there's any thing. That we have learned over the course of history it's it is -- -- a mad man speaks we should listen. And I think indignities of Iran that is certainly true. Congresswoman of course the United States is concerned about the nuclear program Iran denies that it has -- and so it hasn't threatened to use them but the real question is. What would happen how would you retaliate as president if that was a -- act of war is you've called it on American soil. -- -- -- -- -- I I would consider the use of everything that we need to do to maintain the security and safety of the American people. Of course there must be first identify out vital American national interest and I think here where you look at these tremendous acts of aggression. And we have to consider again what happened this was -- -- attempt to end -- international assassination plot against the Saudi Arabian ambassador. Potentially sat at a restaurant in the Washington DC area where hundreds of innocent Americans could have been killed and wounded. And all but with the use of Mexican drug cartels these are various series very serious actions and indicate. The rest aggressive posture that Iran is now taking against the United States of America they see the United States is less of a threat to them than ever. And it's clearly they fail to respect the United States and our presence. And they see the weakening of US presidents particularly. With the -- with the not agreement to -- status of forces agreement in Iraq. And the pull out -- our the United States so by the end of December. Congressman you've just said that you would have all options on the table. Let me move on to Libya. You have said that you disagreed with President Obama that -- -- an action that was not in America's national interest. So as president Bachmann. If you had not taken that decision to lead in to support the NATO option. They would be presumed need tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people dead in Ben Ghazi and -- Gaddafi would still be in power. Would that is that what president Bachmann would have wanted. Well clearly again it was Defense Secretary Gates whose stated that there was no American vital interests in Libya. That is the precursor for the United States' involvement in an an and other nations affairs I believe that it was the wrong decision for President Obama to take. And he said that his reason for United States' involvement and unilaterally made that decision. On his own without going to congress. He made that decision he -- for humanitarian purposes but clearly this was about regime change that was the focus of the president. And so now we have a mass and let -- we don't know. Who the ruling party will be going in to Libya there are some indications. -- is that early leader but we don't know if that's -- ultimately will be. There's essentially a war right now between factions -- this -- and ms. Rodham. And -- bank -- so this clearly is not settled what the leadership or what the future course of -- will be. There's tremendous uncertainty and chaos and of course when there -- uncertainty and chaos and -- nation. That's when UC troubled and potentially extremist elements that could comment to power that would not be good for the United States' interest in that area again. I just briefly Moammar Gadhafi who endorsed terrorist plots and acts against the United States is no longer so now we see the end game -- seen what's happened. What you basically still say that given -- to you might -- US involvement. -- billion dollars and -- supporting Ashcroft no boots on the ground that it wasn't what it is that still your position. My position is that the United States should not have got into Libya because again the last chapter isn't written this is a snapshot in time. There is tremendous instability. And the Libyan region we've seen continued deaths and fighting and this will not end any time soon so there remains a struggle for power and again this is the issue now on the Middle East region. Who will ultimately hold seats of power. Egypt yet is unknown who will ultimately control that seat of power. Will -- -- the Muslim Brotherhood will of the extremist elements of course that's true and -- well. Will it be extremist elements that rule. And it Libya this is very important because of the oral revenues and -- revenues as we know could potentially be used. To further finance our global -- that and extremist elements so this is far from settled in Libya. This takes security nations closer to home about illegal. Immigration. You have made some statements that really. Have people wondering about your attention to detail on this I want to play something that you said about this this week justice system. 59000. Along this year came across the border as was the -- -- from Yemen from Syria. These are nations that are state sponsors of terror. They're coming into our country. Congresswoman -- I just want to read from the reports of the US Customs and Border Protection that. The 59000. -- presents the totally illegal immigrants apprehended from all countries other than Mexico. But only eleven of them -- from Yemen and just five were illegal immigrants from Syria. Not 59000. I mean how how do you get those figures so wrong. I did not state in my in the full context of my remarks I did not say that 59000. Came solely from states that were state sponsors of terror I -- that it included among them car but you're missing the main point that I made. -- the fact that the United States government has failed to secure our borders has put the American people at risk. If there was even one individual. That came illegally across our border from a state sponsor chair. That alone would show the failure the United States government. The fact that we have 59000. Other than Mexicans coming across in one year certainly poses a threat. But no I did not say that they were all from the state sponsors of -- so that it be inaccurate for it for you to report that. What it is eggs inside in -- in your statement that I'm hearing what you're saying now to two sort of talk about what you actually meant -- -- closed Yemen is not classified as a state sponsor of terrorism but cannot actually move on. -- want us right that's right that's right Yemen is not the right sponsor chair. -- nor did I say that they -- -- there -- dominant secretary of State's web site listed. The nations that are state sponsors of tear and -- -- what is wrong and that's what's worrisome -- the fact that we do have individuals that are from state sponsors of tear. Coming across unimpeded. I'm. The United States. The southern border and that's why I've stated that within one year at being an office I would built the fence that's so necessary on our. Order dwell on that issue thank you for tearing up what you said last week but. Then it is -- ask you one final question about fuel opponents you have basically said that Governor Perry is. Taking then as you said imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Taking your ideas when it comes to his tax proposals that he's talking about a flat tax and you I'm not really. How do you consider that taking your ideas. I'm my tax plan is the unique in that unlike any of the other plans. My plan calls for every American to paste something when it comes to federal income taxes. Because today 51% of Americans pay no federal income tax. This needs to change we're at a tipping point now everyone needs to pay something. And so I take a page from Ronald Reagan and economic miracle. That was -- in the 1980s. Reagan flattened the tax rates any simplify them. Now because he is working at the democratic congress he could not abolish the US tax code I would abolish the United States federal tax code. And in its place I would -- the rates and simplifying them I would not have just one rate. But I -- several rates which -- simple much for your system. And one that would be equitable and raise revenues for the federal government as well. On that note congressman Bachmann thank you so much for joining us.
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