'This Week' Transcript: 2013 Game Changers

CRUZ: Now, let me ask you, Jon, just for clarification, is this the first time anyone has ever been on your show cross examined for a coloring book.

KARL: It is the first time I have ever questioned a political figure over a coloring book.

But Obamacare is not worse than war.

CRUZ: No, of course not.

KARL: One more thing, when it comes to the year that was, feathers ruffled, the shutdown, the late-night jokes, Cruz says he has no big regrets.

For This Week, Jonathan Karl, ABC News, Washington.


And now we turn to the hacker who made headlines around the world with the most dramatic and extensive intelligence revelations in history.

Edward Snowden revealed a secret surveillance operation that went far beyond anything the public had imagined. It set off alarm bells across the intelligence community, angered America's allies, sparked calls for reform from the president and congress and at least one federal judge believes he uncovered a program that violates our constitution.

He's been called a patriot and traitor, a fugitive and a freedom fighter, how Edward Snowden will spend 2014 and the rest of his life is anyone's guess. And as ABC's Pierre Thomas reports, his dramatic actions in 2013 will reverberate for years to come.


EDWARD SNOWDEN, NSA LEAKER: My name is Ed Snowden. I'm 29 years old.

PIERRE THOMAS, ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: With that, the world was introduced to the mild-mannered IT guy whose revelations would shake the foundations of U.S. national security and fracture international relationships.

SNOWDEN: I had access to, you know the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all around the world.

THOMAS: And he used that access to NSA computers to secretly steal a treasure trove of the nation's most sensitive secrets.

Snowden not only stole the secrets, he gave them to the press to publish.

To some, he's a hero, a whistleblower.

To others, a traitor.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No, I don't think Mr. Snowden was a patriot.

THOMAS: Snowden fled the country to Hong Kong and is completely committed to his cause. He wants to expose what he believes are massive violations of privacy done in the name of fighting terror.

SNOWDEN: The public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong. This is the truth. This is what's happening. You should decide whether we need to be doing this.

THOMAS: His actions reveal some stunning gaps in national security. He secretly downloaded the material for months undetected and walked out the door.

REP. PETER KING (R), NEW YORK: How someone at his level was able to get access, it's hard for me to fathom how this was allowed to happen the way it did.

THOMAS: June 5th, the first explosive leak is published in the British newspaper, "The Guardian." It contains details of a top secret court ruling. The public had never seen anything like it -- the bombshell that under court order, Verizon was providing the National Security Agency with phone records of millions of customers. Among the information, the numbers and times of calls being made across the country.

It's something the nation's top spy had publicly denied.

REP. RON WYDEN (D), OREGON: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?


WYDEN: It does not?

CLAPPER: Not wittingly.

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