'This Week' Transcript: 2013 Game Changers

THOMAS: Snowden, charged with espionage and theft, is now a fugitive from justice. He managed to stay a step ahead of authorities, escaping from Hong Kong to Russia, where for (AUDIO GAP) he was stuck in limbo in the Moscow airport before being granted asylum. While it remains unclear whether Snowden will ever face justice in the U.S., his actions may lead to sweeping changes in what the government shares about its most sensitive spy programs.

In late December, a White House review panel recommended greater transparency.

RICHARD CLARKE, MEMBER, WHITE HOUSE NSA ADVISORY PANEL: It's not just the facts that matter here, it's the appearance. The facts are NSA is not reading our e-mails or abusing its power. The appearance, however, is that they are. And we need to end any mistrust by opening it up.

THOMAS: Even the president, while still critical of Snowden, acknowledges the disclosures ignited a legitimate debate.

OBAMA: Just because we can do something doesn't mean we necessarily should. And the values that we've got as Americans are ones that we have to be willing to apply beyond our borders.

THOMAS: And with many more potential leaks to come, the debate is far from over.

For THIS WEEK, Pierre Thomas, ABC News, Washington.


STEPHANOPOULOS: And we are just getting started on our special edition of THIS WEEK. The game-changers of 2013. We'll be back after a short break with Pope Francis reenergizing the Catholic Church.

Also, soccer star Robbie Rogers and NBA veteran Jason Collins on a ground-breaking year for gay rights.

And we ask some of our THIS WEEK regulars for their game- changers.


MARY MATALIN: My game-changer this year, and I suspect many more years to come, is Pope Francis, who's building on the teachings of his predecessors, Benedict and John Paul, to show us the way of faith, show us how to walk the walk.



DONNA BRAZILE: Senate women were the game-changer this year. They proved that you can put aside partisanship in order to get things done through partnership.



STEPHANOPOULOS: We have a fresh look at Pope Francis right after this. More of our THIS WEEK game-changers.



NANCY PELOSI, HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: Edie Windsor is my game changer; she took her case of injustice all of the way to the Supreme Court. And when she won, she changed the game in terms of marriage equality and ending discrimination in America.

SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR: My pick for game changer is the pope and it's an easy one, when he said that the Catholic Church should be a home for all, I think he meant that we should be focusing on issues of bringing people together, not on issues that divide people. I think our country should be doing the same.


STEPHANOPOULOS: There's never been a Pope Francis before, from the moment he stepped on St. Peter's balcony as the first pope from Latin America, it began to dawn on all of us that this was just the start of dramatic change. Francis is sending a spiritual jolt to the world's billion Catholics, spreading joy and teaching lessons with a caring smile, a simple life, his sense of time, place and history impeccable.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): It is white smoke. There is a pope. A new pope for the 1.2 billion Catholics around the world.

STEPHANOPOULOS (voice-over): That historic moment, a centuries- old tradition, but this year, a surprise.

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