'This Week' Transcript: Gen Peter Chiarelli

AMANPOUR: What did learn from these Taliban who had you? Are they more radical than you thought, less? What did you learn from them?

ROHDE: / They're very radical. It's very dangerous. I was held in the same place where Faisal Shahzad, the young man who tried to set off a truck bomb in Times Square, where he was trained.

Nothing has changed since I escaped from captivity 17 months ago. The Obama administration has repeatedly asked the Pakistani military to remove this. It's a mini-state. They train suicide bombers. They do whatever they want.

And the problem continues today. And they're carrying out cross-border attacks and killing American servicemen from this place.

AMANPOUR: And, indeed, the Afghan review -- the war review suggested that even the fragile progress that is being made in Afghanistan is threatened precisely from North Waziristan.

Do you see any willingness, in your continued reporting, by the Pakistanis to really crack down on that?

ROHDE: It's all about India. And as long there's this India-Pakistan rivalry, the Pakistanis, they continue to see the Taliban as proxies they can use to stop India from coming in and making inroads in Afghanistan.

You know, Richard Holbrooke was trying to do this. He was trying to sort of reduce tensions between India and Pakistan. There are assurances that we can, you know, make to the Pakistanis, maybe ask the Indians to back off in Afghanistan.

The Pakistani military is a rational actor. They don't agree with the Taliban. They're not secretly Islamists. So I think there is a solution. You know, I think we have to keep trying. And it's this regional dynamic that will stabilize Afghanistan.

AMANPOUR: So while he's thinking geopolitics in his particular area of reporting, captive there…

MULVIHILL: Yes, exactly.

AMANPOUR: … and still, you having to go about your daily work as a photo editor at Cosmopolitan, chatting with your colleagues. How did that -- I mean, how?

MULVIHILL: It was very tough. I mean, actually, two weeks into the captivity…

AMANPOUR: Without telling them?

MULVIHILL: Yes, two weeks into the captivity I told the editor-in-chief. And she kept that secret throughout. She was tremendous. As the time dragged on, I had to tell more people. But it was very strange the first few months.

You know, I would be planning shoots and in the office, and I would get a call from the FBI, you know, we have a video communication of David, can you duck out and meet us, you know, in front of Starbucks on 52nd Street?

So it really was kind of like leading a double life.

AMANPOUR: And you were able to call Kristen a couple of times.

ROHDE: Yes. They were very technologically adept. They had throughout a satellite phone. They called on cell phones. And they even Googled me. So there was -- what was so interesting was that they were kind of globalization is happening in the Tribal Areas of Pakistan. But they pick and choose whatever information sort of fits their conspiracy theories.

AMANPOUR: So what information about you fit their conspiracy theories as they Googled you?

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