'This Week' Transcript: God and Government


ROBERTS, C.: But - but - but the bad part about this...


ROBERTS, S.: But in the long run, the forces of...


ROBERTS, C.: Right. But - but...


LAND: Forty seven percent of (inaudible) voted for him.

ROBERTS, C.: But - but the bad part about this is that he - that - that it's acceptable to say that he's a Muslim.

PATEL: That's right.

ROBERTS, C.: Because the same people won't - won't say I don't like him cause he's black. So it's - it's - and - and the fact that it's acceptable to dislike him because he's a Muslim is the problem that you were talking about.



PATEL: Racism has no place in our public square for our political contributions.


ROBERTS, C.: We've killed it as a public issue.


PATEL: And something - you cannot say it without being called on the carpet.

AMANPOUR: You say that people personally are becoming more tolerant. But in the politics, much more polarized.

ROBERTS, S.: Absolutely, Christiane. I mean, you look at Washington, and it - it's - it looks like Baghdad some days. I mean, in terms of the jihadist mentality.

ROBERTS, C.: But just in words.

ROBERTS, S.: But it - but - but when you look at individualized, particularly young people, first time in American history just a few weeks ago, a majority of Americans approved a same sex marriage. You ask young people about interracial marriage, 90 percent - 90 percent of people under 30 say it would be fine with them if a member of their family married someone of another race.

So you have a - a - a disconnect in America. On the official level, there's very heated and intolerant words. But day to day, family by family, marriage by marriage, kitchen table by kitchen table, people are becoming more tolerant.

AMANPOUR: Thank you. Thank you very much indeed. When we return, a woman who's saving souls one song at a time.

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AMANPOUR: This Easter, we bring you the story of one woman who is trying to resurrect an entire community. Vy Hgginsen founded the Gospel for Teens choir in Harlem as a way to connect young African-Americans to their history. Along the way, many of them found their own voices, as well. Today she tells us how she ministers through music.

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, ABC NEWS: Vy, thank you for joining us.

Tell me what Easter means to you and to the team gospel choir?

HIGGINSEN: Well, Easter is a form of renewal, resurrection, forgiveness, and faith. That's what it means to me. And it's like the music -- Easter in a way.

HIGGINSEN: The music allows us to tap into that part of ourselves that gives us a place of hope, of forgiveness, of possibility. And gospel music has that kind of power to transcend our present circumstances, and move us to a higher level of consciousness.

AMANPOUR: So many people are in tough present circumstances. People are looking for hope. Some light in their darkness as many face today. How does your music do that? How does it do that for the kids who come here?

HIGGINSEN: I believe that the music of gospel allows us to hear the lyrics. You know, if you say that there is a better tomorrow, encourage my soul, and let us journey on. Those words help us.

AMANPOUR: Gospel is so uniquely American. It's such a part of this country's history.


AMANPOUR: Did those kids know about it?

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