BAUER: Ten years ago -- 20 years ago, an artist here in New York took a crucifix and submerged it in a vat of urine and called it "Piss Christ." Christians did not riot. There were not terror cells formed of Christians wanting to blow up artists in New York. If the foolish pastor -- foolish pastor in Florida had burned the Koran, that would not have been the cause of the violence. That would have been the excuse for the violence. Whether it's cartoons, an infidel touching A Koran, the fact of the matter is, that the radical mosques keep many Muslims on the edge of mayhem and violence.
AMANPOUR: My question about the Islamic center that Daisy and her husband wanted to build is the opposition to it. Are you basically saying its al Qaeda and al Qaeda like sympathizers who are building this mosque?
BAUER: No, I'm saying that it is incredibly insensitive for her or anyone else to suggest building a mosque near a place where 3,000 people died, killed by men operating in the name of Islam.
AMANPOUR: But why -- why should it be insensitive? And then I will ask Donna. Why should it be insensitive if you're not blurring the lines between those who killed and the rest of the religion? why are you deliberately blurring the lines?
BAUER: Because that is ground that was the first chapter in a war with radical Islam. At this very moment, Christiane, the reality that we all face is that there are evil men that worship death that want to bring us a day much worse than the morning of 9/11.
AMANPOUR: But where should this center be built?
BAUER: Well, it can be built anywhere in New York. There's -- there's mosques being built every month in New York. There are many more mosques in New York today than there were in the morning of 9/11.
AMANPOUR: Here we turned to the story of Imam Osama Bahloul – 900 miles away from Manhattan in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Hs plans for an Islamic center have come under attack.
IMAN BAHLOUL: Living here in the city for more than 30 years, there is no single act of violence. Never. Zero. We spoke against any kind of radical view of any kind. we support any of this activity. Why are people opposing the mosque? And do you know we have two vandalism and one arson? We did not do anything bad towards anyone.
BAUER: Right. That's terrible. That's terrible. It shouldn't happen.
AMANPOUR: Do you think politics played into it? Do you think political rhetoric played in to it?
BAHLOUL: We are not politicians. I don't know politics. But maybe it's the midterm elections, maybe it's something else, maybe someone specific party trying to strengthen its base, maybe anything. But I'm saying about -- I'm talking about very peaceful people did not do anything bad.
AMANPOUR: so, Gary Bauer, as you know, a series of politicians have used the Islamic center, have used sort of Islamophobia and scare tactic in their campaigns.
BAUER: Now, Christiane, that's a loaded question, really. People are using a fear of Muslims for their political purpose?
AMANPOUR: People are talking the same kind of thing.
AMANPOUR: Yes. That's what -- that's what he believes
BAUER: I would suggest -- I would suggest to you that Muslims are using this sorts of victimhood cards for their political purpose.
BAHLOUL: We are not.