'This Week' Transcript: Kaine and Steele

ROBERTS: And the -- and the Congress has passed a law that has a $75 million -- $75 million liability for these oil companies. It's not a day of their profits.


DONALDSON: But the oil companies have a lot of money that goes into the political campaigns.

TAPPER: Donna -- Donna, you had talked to the EPA administrator, Lisa Jackson, last night. She's on her way down there right now. What did she tell you?

BRAZILE: Well, I wanted to talk to her about the chemical dispersants that they're using now to try to break up the oil down at the surface level.

TAPPER: EPA told BP not to use the one they're using...

BRAZILE: Absolutely.

TAPPER: ... and BP is not going to obey that.

BRAZILE: Well, and that's a problem. One of the problems I have with the administration is that they're not tough enough. They are waiting for BP to say, oh, we've got a new plan to stop the oil leak. They need to stop it, contain it, clean it up, and try to help us conserve our -- our coastal wetlands.

DONALDSON: So why haven't they been tough enough?

BRAZILE: Well, because they -- because of the Oil Pollution Act of 1990. I brought the piece of paper. They're sitting back saying, OK -- this is the country's response to the Exxon Valdez. There's -- basically, they're saying, it's BP's responsibility. BP has taken responsibility of giving all of the gulf states $25 million, plus an additional $15 million for tourism.

ROBERTS: I mean, nothing.

BRAZILE: Nothing.

ROBERTS: Nothing.

BRAZILE: Nothing. Absolutely nothing. When you talk about...

ROBERTS: And -- and the state can't get permission to build barrier islands which the government has been trying to build up...


TAPPER: ... President Obama ran against oil -- the oil industry when he ran for president. What's going on?


BRAZILE: He also ran on transparency and accountability.

DONALDSON: ... what's going with this management service, this Minerals Management Service. I don't know, either. Maybe the commission is going to find out.

But I'll tell you, in past regulatory problems, one of the reasons is, they're in footsies. They're playing -- in -- with the -- with the people they regulate.


DONALDSON: And after they leave with a government pension, they then get a good job for big salaries with the companies that they had been regulating.

TAPPER: There was one other item in the news that I want to touch on before -- before we have to go to a break, and that is the president of Mexico, Felipe Calderon, came to the White House, and he came to Congress, and in both places, he criticized the Arizona immigration law. Here's President Calderon.


CALDERON: I strongly disagree with the recently adopted law in Arizona. It is a law that not only ignores a reality that cannot be erased by decree, but also introduce a terrible idea using racial profiling as the basis for law enforcement.


TAPPER: Now, I'm the spring chicken at the table, but I cannot remember a head of state from another country coming to the Congress and criticizing American laws.

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