'This Week' Transcript: Leahy and Sessions

But the most recent terrorism controversies are now being aimed at American citizens and the rights of American citizens. You have the president authorizing an assassination program to target American citizens.

TAPPER: One American citizen.

GREENWALD: There are three confirmed, one of whom we know. You have the effort by Joe Lieberman and others to strip American citizens of their citizenship, to deny them all rights. And now you have the administration, the Obama administration, wanting to rewrite our core protections of Miranda and being brought before a judge. And at some point the American people are going to have to say, is the response to every terrorist attack, attempted terrorist attack to ask which rights do we need to give up now.

TAPPER: George?

WILL: I think you're right which is we don't actually know what the Miranda doctrine means, particularly with the public safety exception. Obviously there's an extreme here, 15 days, 30 days. There's two hours, here's too little. There's play in the joints as you like to say. Why don't we just let it play out?

TAPPER: All right, well let's move on -- speaking of playing out, let's move on to politics, because we have great races for political junkies playing out especially as a former Pennsylvanian, I know Ed, you as well, there's I have to say a bizarre race going on in Pennsylvania right now.

Here is a fun little mash-up from the Web site "Talking Points Memo." It is a combination of Arlen Specter's TV ad, who used to be a Republican in 2004 with his ad now in 2010.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Obama and newspapers across Pennsylvania agree, Arlen Specter is the real deal.


GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Arlen Specter is the right man for the United States Senate.

OBAMA: He came to fight for the working men and women of Pennsylvania.

BUSH: I can count on this man. See, that's important.

OBAMA: He's going to fight for you regardless what the politics are.

SEN. ARLEN SPECTER (D), PENNSYLVANIA: I'm Arlen Specter and I approve this message.

SPECTER: I'm Arlen Specter and I approve this message.


TAPPER: First of all, George, why would any Democrat vote for Arlen Specter?

WILL: That's an excellent question. In his fifth term as a Republican senator at age 79, he had an epiphany which was that he's really a Democrat. Now when he did, to his credit, it was agreeably free of any pretense of principle. He said I'm going to lose unless I change.

He's going to lose anyway is what it comes down to because this is the last year that you want to be "A" an incumbent, "B" an opportunist, "C," sort of flagrantly without conviction.

TAPPER: Ed, if you were Pat Toomey, the Republican senatorial nominee in Pennsylvania, would you rather run against Arlen Specter or the legitimately progressive Democratic challenger, Congressman Joe Sestak?

TAPPER: Who is a tougher general election candidate?

GILLESPIE: Tough question. I think Specter is obviously eminently beatable. And I agree with George, he's so eminently beatable, he's about to be beat in his primary. And that will leave Sestak.

Sestak is very much to the left of Pennsylvania, which, for a northeastern state, actually, has a lot of conservative leanings, and I think he's going to have a very tough time in the general election as well.

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