'This Week' Transcript: Lon Snowden, Donald Trump

STEPHANOPOULOS: And Chairman Royce, a key member of your committee, Representative Dana Rohrabacher from California who's chair of the subcommittee dealing with Russia, seems also to have some sympathy with Edward Snowden. Here is what he said yesterday on C-SPAN.


REP. DANA ROHRABACHER, R-CALIF.: In fact, he was being loyal to the rest of us by letting the American people know that their government was getting out of hand. Accepting him for asylum, I think, was not as hostile an act as it's being portrayed.


STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you agree with those views on Edward Snowden and Russia?

ROYCE: No, I do not. And we have to keep in mind here that the conundrum we're in is one in which Al Qaida is first trying to learn how we track them, and second, you know, with this new master bomb-maker that they've used in Yemen to develop this new strategy -- the underwear bomber, for example, his attempted attack was at the behest -- at the -- with the support of this master bomb-maker.

This master bomb-maker now is teaching his trade, we happen to know, to a lot of other bomb-makers in that part of the world, in Yemen, and they're going on the Internet with this capability, and with the hope of bringing into the United States agents to carry out these types of attacks. Attacks which are undetectable.

And so we're in the process of trying to monitor what Al Qaida is doing overseas and here in the United States in order to try to replicate that particular attempted attack and to expand it demonstrably. And so when you have someone who is giving out the means and methods in which we're tracking Al Qaida, it is a problem for the United States.

And secondarily, when we're talking about the former head of the KGB, President Putin in Russia, this has not been an ally. As you know, the administration has tried to engage him on several issues such as missile defense, and has worked with him on trade issues. And we have not seen any reciprocation from the Russians on this, because this former KGB agent still has a sense of hostility to the West and to the United States.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So, Senator Menendez, how do we get this relationship with Russia back on track? The president says there's nothing -- no bad relations between he and President Putin personally, but they do seem to be at odds on just about every major issue.

MENENDEZ: Well, look, you know, Russia should be looking towards how do they achieve a prosperous future for all of their citizens versus going back to an authoritarian past. And we seem to be more invested in this effort to create a relationship with Russia that can be productive for both countries more than Putin is. And so it seems to me that as we've tried to restart this relationship several times, that maybe now is a moment to pause and think about how we're going to move forward with Russia.

They are unresponsive to us as it relates to the tragedies that are going on in Syria. They are unresponsive to us as it relates to further nuclear arms reduction. They are unresponsive when they violate the rights of gay and lesbians, including foreign visitors who would come to Russia and could be arrested. They are unresponsive when they ultimately stop the adoptions by Americans of Russian children.

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