'This Week' Transcript: Two Powerhouse Roundtables

ELLISON: No, Rubio has a piecemeal approach to this immigration stuff. I mean...


WALLACE: Well, President Obama took pieces of that piecemeal approach.


ELLISON: Well, bottom line is, there -- I think where the -- where the country is, we want more aggressive, more direct reform on immigration reform than Marco Rubio is talking about. I think he's behind. I think he's fragmented on the issue. And I think that, you know, the Republicans are looking for anybody...


STEPHANOPOULOS: Congressman, I think he's ahead of your caucus in the House on this, right?


COLE: ... we are in the fifth year of waiting for the Obama immigration plan. It was supposed to be unveiled within 100 days after his election in 2008, so the president's prettily skillfully used the issue, but he hasn't led on the issue. And we're still waiting for a bill. Now, Rubio is leading and leading with some considerable...


COLE: ... political risk to himself, which I admire. So, look, I think we're going to get there, but the real leadership on immigration isn't coming from the administration. It's coming out of the Senate.


CUTTER: First of all, the president put out an immigration plan in the first term. I was there; I helped work on it. Obviously, it was an issue in this past election. Republicans have come a long way, even compared to where we were just six months ago. Now they're talking about being for the DREAM Act. Now Marco Rubio is talking about earned citizenship for undocumented immigrants. That's a big step forward for Republicans. I hope he can bring the rest of his party along.

And, you know, I think that you're seeing a lot of movement on the Republican side on immigration for a very basic reason: the change in demographics in elections. And I'm...


CUTTER: That's fine. I'm glad they're coming -- I don't care why they're coming. They're just coming towards the president on immigration, and hopefully we can get something done.

STEPHANOPOULOS: I want to get one more issue before we take a break, and it's another potential 2016 contender for the White House, Chris Christie of New Jersey. He started out the week opening up about his weight on "David Letterman," making jokes about it. A former White House doctor took issue with that and said she was worried about his health, Connie Mariano, and then he gave this press conference.


CHRISTIE: This is just another hack who wants five minutes on TV. If she wants to get on a plane and come here to New Jersey and ask me if she wants to examine me and review my medical history, I'll have a conversation with her about that. Until that time, she should shut up.


STEPHANOPOULOS: And, Jon Karl, he then called her and I guess they had a fairly heated conversation, says even though she's a Republican, not voting for him. But, you know, we're laughing about this right now, but Chris Christie talking about this first for a very good reason. This will be a serious issue if he decides to runs for president.

KARL: It is. But I've got to make two points here. One, this kind of reminds you of what Lincoln supposedly said about Grant and Grant's drinking problem. You know, Christie is the most popular Republican in the land. You know, you almost want to say find out what kind of doughnuts he likes and then ship up...



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