'This Week' Transcript: Sens Kerry and Lugar

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And I guess I put that up because so many people have said this was a great victory for President Obama. Some even on the conservative pundits have said that the Republicans got snookered by this -- by this tax deal. But didn't really have much choice, did he?

WILL: No, he had no choice whatever. Here's what happened this week. The president lost the spending bill he wanted that had the health care funds for him. The president lost on his tax pledge, which was to cause an increase in taxes on -- on more affluent Americans. And in Virginia, a federal judge declared the centerpiece of his centerpiece -- that is, the health care mandate -- unconstitutional. And a federal judge in Florida signaled he might say the same thing.

AMANPOUR: Donna, what happens with that?

BRAZILE: Oh, first of all, the federal judge in Virginia -- I mean, this -- this -- this ruling was so narrow. And he didn't use the commerce clause, George. He used the necessary and proper clause, which sounds redundant. So I don't think that will stand. I still believe overall the health care bill will continue to move forward.

Now, look, the president is going to have to show some of the kind of leadership he showed this week, I think, in getting "don't ask/don't tell" passed, if he gets START passed this week. This will be a good month for the president.

AMANPOUR: OK, let's put up some of the impassioned debate over "don't ask/don't tell."

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WYDEN: I don't care who you love. If you love this country enough to risk your life for it, you shouldn't have to hide who you are.

MCCAIN: I hope that, when we pass this legislation, that we will understand that we are doing great damage. Today's a very sad day.

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AMANPOUR: Rajiv, you heard what Senator McCain says, and he says he bases it on the feelings of troops on the ground. You've been there. What are they telling you?

CHANDRASEKARAN: There's none of that passion that you saw in the Senate out there in the deserts of Afghanistan. For the rank-and-file in the U.S. military, this isn't all that big of a deal. They don't see a big problem with implementation, and the younger generation just doesn't have the same politicized views as some of the senior commanders and -- and some of the -- the opponents to this, as -- as we heard from Senator McCain.

AMANPOUR: Perhaps that's true overall, but certainly many of the Marines -- a majority of the Marines -- who are really at the tip of the spear have got serious worries. What do you think this is going to look like as it's rolled out? Implementation is going to take a while.

BRAZILE: I think it's going to be a non-event. I really do. I think -- I think we've made so much noise about an issue that most Americans believe that, why? Why? People are willing to die for their country. They're willing to serve. We've lost so many good men and women simply because they refuse to lie. So I think this is a great day for the country. We join the civilized world.

WILL: The Marines are a small service in which every Marine is a rifleman, and their specialty is small-unit combat, and unit cohesion matters. With that said, the Marines have their orders from the commander-in-chief. You tell a Marine to take the hill, the hill will be taken, and therefore they're going to implement it.

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