'This Week' Transcript: Sens Kerry and Lugar


AMANPOUR: And the hill has been taken all over the world, by more than 30 countries, which have...

FREELAND: Yeah, that's -- I -- I was going to make exactly that point, Christiane. And I think Donna is right. I think that the big event has happened now. And in real life, we're going to see that this just rolls out. We've seen that other countries have done this. And, you know, I think actually it's going to be the bang and now will be just the slow whimper.

AMANPOUR: All right. And our roundtable discussion continues in the green room at abcnews.com/thisweek, where you can also find our fact checks in conjunction with PolitiFact.

Up next, is American food aid policy actually harming the ability of the world's poor children to develop properly?


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AMANPOUR: Joining me now to talk more about U.S. food aid policy is Rajiv Shah, the administrator for the U.S Agency for International Development.

Mr. Shah, thank you for joining us. And I might say, before you got this job, you were at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation...

SHAH: Yes.

AMANPOUR: ... so there's a connection here. And I want to ask you, how can this be happening? How can this be happening? Just put the milk powder back at the very, very minimum.

SHAH: Well, you know, the segment you just ran is an incredibly important one, because it highlights the huge problem of child malnutrition. And over the last decade, we've learned a lot about how to address it.

And this administration, led by President Obama, but led also by Secretary Clinton and myself, we've been very aggressive to change the way food assistance takes place and to change the way development happens so that we're focusing on the most effective interventions to really help countries pull themselves out of poverty.

AMANPOUR: Right, that's the big thing that President Clinton was saying there...

SHAH: Right.

AMANPOUR: ... that for many administrations, it's been a failure. Based more on what benefits U.S. farmers than what's beneficial to the people you're trying to help.

SHAH: That's right. And our new approach...

AMANPOUR: What are you doing now?

SHAH: Well, our new approach has been to continue to recognize that we need to be the world's largest, fastest, most effective food aid provider in emergencies, but this is not just about emergencies. This is about helping the nearly billion people who go to bed every night hungry.

And so we've launched a major global initiative we call Feed the Future, which is about helping countries do exactly what your segment talks about, produce more local foods, produce higher quality foods, improve the targeting of children under the age of two and pregnant women, so that they get better micronutrients and they get proteins, and by doing that, essentially creating the conditions that allow us to move away from food aid and allow countries to take care of their own people and their people's nutrition and welfare.

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