'This Week' Transcript: Sen. John McCain


MUIR: That cost them $80. And the American options we found of comparable quality, the same price range, a little cheaper, $73 up to $89. The one loaned to us with the rest of the furniture, $250. We paid the shipping.

ALFONSI: And the kitchen. Just when we ripped that stove out of the wall, we realized we were in trouble. Yes, we scooped up fiestaware for $35 and the glasses for less than a dollar. But then the appliances.

The only 100 percent American-made appliances we could find were the legendary Viking, Subzero, and Wolf. High end and highly expensive. But there was another option, a compromise. We did find some appliances half-made in the U.S. and they were about half the cost of what we bought.

MUIR: The old bedroom set, $1,758. The new one, $1,699. The American goods, less expensive, and just as durable. And those workers who made it all in their Virginia factory, so proud to tell us, made in America. (END VIDEOTAPE)

AMANPOUR: Well, now I'm with Diane Sawyer, and the team who put this series together, David Muir and Sharyn Alfonsi. Thank you all. And it is quite stunning to see a house which is then completely emptied of everything, because nothing was made in America.

DIANE SAWYER, ABC NEWS: You just start from the question, how much of in your shopping cart was made in America? How much of what you have in the living room, around you right now as you're watching?

AMANPOUR: What kind of reaction did you get?

SAWYER: Most people think about half. Isn't that what we --


SAWYER: Yes, at least half. And then the revelation. And that was the first thing we wanted to do. It's just a wakeup call about the reality around us.

We know it's a global economy, but the thousand pressure points that create what really establishes jobs.

However, I loved knowing that my neighbors are making things that I'm buying. That's one factor among other factors. We thought people should start asking the question.

AMANPOUR: What really will put the jobs back where they're meant to be here in this country?

ALFONSI: Well, if you look at it, every economist we spoke to say, you might say it seems very simple, but the reality is, if you make something in America, it creates American jobs. It is that simple. At the same time, of course it's more complex than that. We don't want to be bemoaning the loss of the lightbulb. We don't make a single lightbulb in the United States. What we want to be thinking about is the next lightbulb and being -- manufacturing in smart areas, in areas that create high-value jobs.

MUIR: It's funny, economists say don't worry about the plasma screen that we had to remove from the Usrys' house. They have no TV in the living room or their bedroom now. They said we should be thinking about the next generation of televisions that interconnect the Internet and On Demand and everything else.

AMANPOUR: And to get that next generation of innovators, you're going to need the next generation of great education. Where does that really play into this manufacturing debate?

SAWYER: Well, it's everything, as we know. And we think that if you look at the whole path ahead for the -- for America, for what we want to achieve, you see the convergence of what we are making, what our aspirations are, and is our education serving what we want to be?

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