Aug 13, 2009 5:32pm

Just when we thought we saw the light

Just when it seemed there were far fewer foreclosed houses available in Detroit when I was there a couple of weeks ago… 
When home sales were up….
When the jobs report wasn't great, but at least wasnn't as bad as expected…
Just when it seemed that things might be looking up, RealtyTrac releases a gloomy foreclosure report.  The foreclosure tracking company reported today that a record 360,149 homeowners were at some stage of the foreclosure process in July, up 7% from the previous month, and up 32% from a year ago. 

But, you may be saying, home sales are up — both existing and new!  That's right.  I think that's because many people, both investors and personal buyers, are taking advantage of bargains.  Because there ARE bargains to be had — I saw one in Detroit — a six-bed, five bath, 4800 square foot "gingerbread" house in tony Palmer Woods (where the car execs built their mansions back in the '20s and '30s) for — get this — $84,900.  Okay, yes, the previous owners had the worst color sense I've ever seen (unless you've got a thing for turquoise), and it needs loads of work.  But the major systems are there, the bones are excellent, and it's $85,000 for a 4800 square foot house.   Unbelievable! 

So I've been telling my property virgin friends that NOW is the time — prices are low, there's inventory, and there's that $8000 first-time homebuyer tax credit as long as you get the deal underway by November.  Do you agree — is now the time?  What's happening to prices in your area??

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I DO agree now’s the time, but don’t go telling everyone about my find in Detroit! Seriously, here in Atlanta, luxury condos in the tony midtown area that were going for $800k a year ago are priced around $250k right now, so if you don’t have a mortgage albatross around your neck right now (natch, I do!), then now’s the time to get out the checkbook.

Posted by: Jana | August 13, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

For every house that’s bought, there’s one fewer on the market; true, but are you buying so as to improve the statistics? Probably not. If you want to move, now isn’t the time to sell your old place either.
If you’re a securely employed apartment dweller, or mom’s gotten tired of you in the basement, now is the time to be looking, but only look in neighborhoods where you are ready to be for a while. There are many opportunities in most neighborhoods, but the best deals might either be forclosures or extreme fixeruppers that have been getting avoided.
Personally, I’m not looking, but rather, living in my fixerupper. I’m here because I could get the best deal and build sweat equity. I’m happy that I did so, and I learned a LOT in the process. My employment has been the result of the skill set that I learned here, and I placed myself close to a multitude of employment opportunities. I found my ‘deal’ 7 minutes from the urban core in a neighborhood I helped to resurrect – another win-win for everyone.
For the individual, couple, or family that perceives themselves as HiNrG, they can position themselves rather advantageously right now, so they had better go out and mix some planning and some optimism while house hunting.
good luck!

Posted by: soularddave | August 13, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Proud Native American–
Where are you moving from? And to??
Would like to research the markets in both cities…
Keep me posted on how it’s going with you…

Posted by: Vicki Mabrey | August 14, 2009, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Here in Charm City, sales have actually gone UP. Prices haven’t, though, so there are still bargains to be had. But we’ve had a bit of good economic news lately.
(The uber-expensive Ritz-Carlton residences on the harbor (emphasis on the “ritz”) are still, hoewever, trying to keep the hoi polloi out and haven’t lowered their prices yet. They’ll have to, sooner or later.

Posted by: LIsa Simeone | August 14, 2009, 8:18 am 8:18 am

I have been trying to explain (simply) to my 15 year old grandson how the mortgage disaster really happened. Just received this explanation and BINGO! I think I have a great way to illustrate it to him now! Perhaps you have seen this, but if you haven’t….
“For any of you who may have had problems fully understanding the “derivative market” and just how we (literal interpretation) got into our current economic situation – the example below is simple to follow – just substitute “home loans” for bar tabs, “unqualified borrowers” for drunks and “Fanny Mae/Mack” for Heidi in the email example below and you’ll get the picture.
Derivative markets….an understandable explanation:
Heidi is the proprietor of a bar in Detroit . In order to increase sales, she decides to allow her loyal customers – most of whom are unemployed alcoholics – to drink now but pay later. She keeps track of the drinks consumed on a ledger (thereby granting the customers loans).
Word gets around about Heidi ‘s drink now pay later marketing strategy and as a result, increasing numbers of customers flood into Heidi ‘s bar and soon she has the largest sales volume for any bar in Detroit. By providing her customers’ freedom from immediate payment demands, Heidi gets no resistance when she substantially increases her prices for wine and beer, the most consumed beverages. Her sales volume increases massively. She becomes the most profitable bar in the USA.
A greedy young and dynamic vice-president at the local bank recognizes these customer debts as “valuable future assets” and increases Heidi ‘s borrowing limit. He sees no reason for undue concern since he has the debts of the unemployed alcoholics as collateral.
At the bank’s corporate headquarters, expert traders transform these customer loans into DRINKBONDS, ALKIBONDS and PUKEBONDS. These securities are then bonded together into large packages and gradually upgraded to Triple-A (AAA) “very low risk” packages by greedy bond raters, and then traded on security markets worldwide.
Naive investors don’t really understand the securities being sold to them as AAA secured bonds are really the debts of unemployed alcoholics. Nevertheless, their prices continuously climb, and the securities become the top-selling items for some of the nation’s leading brokerage houses.
Eventually, though, Heidi realizes she isn’t taking in enough cash to make even the minimum monthly loan payments to the bank, so she demands payment from some of her alcoholic patrons. Being unemployed, they cannot pay back their drinking debts. Therefore, Heidi cannot fulfill her loan obligations and claims bankruptcy.
DRINKBONDs and ALKIBONDs drop in price by 90 %. PUKEBONDs perform better, stabilizing in price after dropping by 80%. The decreased bond asset value destroys the banks liquidity and prevents it from issuing new loans. Retirees, who have worked hard all their lives and invested in these bonds, realize that their savings are all gone. Their money was used to buy drinks for Heidi ’s customers for all these years. And now these same retirees can no longer get a loan from the bank to buy a car or take a vacation, because the bank is insolvent and no longer writing any loans.
The suppliers of Heidi ‘s bar, having granted her generous payment extensions, are faced with writing off her debt and losing over 80% on her bonds. Her wine supplier claims bankruptcy and fires all his staff. Her beer supplier is taken over by a competitor, who immediately closes the local plant and lays off 50 additional workers.
The bank and brokerage houses are saved from bankruptcy by the Government, following dramatic round-the-clock negotiations by leaders from both political parties. The funds required for this bailout are obtained by taxes levied on employed middle-class non-drinkers and by reducing benefits to the retirees.
So now you understand why I’m sitting on my porch, staring at my tiny social security check and my empty brokerage statement, and wishing I had been an unemployed drunk all my life….”

Posted by: Judy in Dallas | August 14, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am

ANOTHER SIMPLE STORY ABOUT DOING BUSINESS THESE DAYS ARRIVED A FEW MINUTES AGO……. I WILL NOW HAVE TWO FABLES TO READ TO MY G’SON TODAY!
ONCE UPON A TIME……..
“It is the month of August, on the shores of the Black Sea. It is raining, and the little town looks totally deserted. It is tough times. Everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.
He enters the only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to choose one.
The hotel proprietor takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the butcher.
The butcher takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the pig farmer.
The pig farmer takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel.
The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute who, in these hard times, gave her services on credit.
The hooker runs to the hotel and pays off her debt with the 100 Euro note to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.
The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 Euro note back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything. At that moment, the tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his 100 Euro note, saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.
No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism….. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the world is doing business today.”
AND THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER??????

Posted by: Judy in Dallas | August 14, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am

A house just came on the market that was up for grabs back during the gold rush; about three or four years ago. 20 acres, nice house with ‘in-law’ quarters, in ground pool, listed as waterfront. Likely not the kind of waterfront that comes to mind – this is a big swath of tidal marsh. Duck hunters would drool.
First time out greed had the sticker at 1.2 million but now times are tough so the place is being offered up at 1.5. I found the perpetrator of this crime, the Widow Whitenlarge, tarting up the for sale sign.
“Fully furnished, she declared flatly sucking a lollipop, I just want out”.
News as it happens

Posted by: kurt | August 15, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am

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