Jun 20, 2008 1:30pm

Sound-Alikes?: Creaky Boards Vs. Coldplay and Other “Similar” Songs

Recently Andrew Hoepfner, leader of an indie rock band from Brooklyn, Creaky Boards, noticed that his song, the now semi-ironically titled “The Songs I Didn’t Write,” was strikingly similar to Coldplay’s current number one hit, and ipod-ad staple “Viva La Vida.”  Claiming he’d been ripped off by Chris Martin and company, he went to youtube and prepared a clip with both tracks side by side.  He also claimed he saw someone he thought was Martin in the crowd at a show last year.  There are plenty of lanky, Chris Martin look-alikes, (especially in Brooklyn, indie-rock hipster circles) so Martin’s actual presence at the show could be disputed.  Is There A Case For Infringement? The two tracks have their similarities, but legally, it may be hard to prove.  I quote the Beastie Boys in their song “Shadrach.” “Only 24 hours in a day / Only 12 notes that a man can play!” This could be chalked up to pure coincidence, especially since the two songs are arriving at very similar times.  Coldplay’s record just arrived last week and Creaky Boards’ album, “Brooklyn is Love,” is “almost done” according to their myspace page.  In addition, the songs’ melodies have enough slightly different twists and turns that “the eight-notes-in-row” standard probably wouldn’t hold up.  Creaky Boards’ song is a sunnier slice of almost twee-sounding power-pop in comparison to Coldplay’s moody, anthem-ready, string-laden hit.  Sure enough on E’s website, there are posted statements from Coldplay’s management that Martin was in London and not at that show, which was said to take place in October 2007.  Also, supposedly “Viva La Vida” was recorded in March of last year, long before said show.  Hoepfner wrote to E and said that he must’ve been mistaken.   He could’ve honestly thought he’d been robbed or it could’ve been just a way to hype his music.  Either way, both songs are good in their own different ways.  There should be room for both of them to exist.  Here are some other “similar” songs: George Harrison’s “My Sweet Lord” and the Chiffons’ “He’s So Fine.” – It was ruled that Harrison’s song was too similar to the girl-group’s hit, thus proving that even legends can be caught copying people, whether by accident or not.  Harrison’s use was said to be unintentional. The Red Hot Chili Peppers’ “Dani California” and Tom Petty’s “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” – Petty was concerned by the similarities between his 1993 hit and the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ 2005 single.  Both songs are bluesy work-ups full of references to different states.  They sound an awful lot alike and the music press had a little bit of a field day for a few moments with this story.  In none of the stories I read on the subject, however, did anyone notice that both tracks were produced by Rick Rubin.  Hmmmmm. The Flaming Lips’ “Flight Test” and Cat Stevens “Father and Son.” – This is a rather straightforward sound-alike.  The songs’ melodies are virtually identical.  As soon as the common elements were noticed, the Flaming Lips agreed to give Stevens (now Yusuf Islam) credit.    The Beach Boys’ “Surfin’ USA” and Chuck Berry’s “Sweet Little Sixteen” – This is another obvious one.  They sound pretty much exactly the same, even down to their obsession with geography. Berry was given a writing credit.  Brian Wilson must’ve been a big Berry fan.  If you listen to “Fun, Fun, Fun,” it seems to me like the intro is pretty much lifted from “Johnny B. Goode.”  The "Final Jeopardy" music and “I’m a Little Teapot.” – Every time I watch Jeopardy at the very end, I want to sing the words, “tip me over and pour me out!  Bom Bom!!”    Sublime’s “What I Got” and The Beatles’ “Lady Madonna” – I’ve never seen anyone write about this, but Sublime’s big breakthrough (coming unfortunately a few months after leader Brad Nowell’s death) is a clear, yet maybe unintentional nod to the Fab-Four’s hit.  John Mayer’s “Waiting For the World To Change” and Marvin Gaye’s “Sexual Healing” – Mayer’s socially conscious song and Gaye’s smooth-lovin’ anthem share the same chord-progression and could easily be sung side by side.  Again, I’ve never read anybody else’s observations on this comparison.  INXS’ “Need You Tonight” and Frédéric Chopin’s "Death March” – It was really weird when Michael Hutchence died.  He was so young and still had career possibilities ahead of him.  Shortly after his death, I listened to INXS’ greatest hits and it occurred to me that the guitar line/centerpiece of “Need You Tonight” sounds an awful lot like “The Death March.”  There are a couple of notes missing, but it has the same general feel.  The dance beat only makes it unsettling.  That being said, it’s still a classic.  Green Day’s “Hitchin’ a Ride” and the Stray Cats’ “Stray Cats Strut” – Both tracks are built around the same simple bass-line.  If copyright rules were stricter, Green Day might find themselves in trouble when you also consider that one of the sections of their epic track “Jesus of Suburbia” sounds just like Bryan Adams’ “Summer of ’69.” The Strokes’ “Razorblade” and Barry Manilow’s “Mandy” – In an unusual move, the chorus to this Strokes song bares a striking similarity to Barry’s “Lite” radio staple.  It’s pretty strange and hopefully a coincidence.  I don’t know if the guys in the Strokes spend a lot of time listening to Barry Manilow, but a lot of critics have noticed the two tracks’ common traits.  Jet’s “Are You Gonna Be My Girl” and Iggy Pop’s “Lust For Life” – It takes a lot to borrow a bass-line from such a timeless song, but it seems to me that Jet did it.  It’s actually more than a bass-line; to me, it’s the essence of the entire track.  The song has its fans and it has its detractors, but few will argue that it’s the most original piece around.  Sometimes originality isn’t everything, though, and borrowed elements can still make for a good song.  What do you think?  Can you think of any songs you think sound like each other?   

User Comments

isn’t the expression “chalked up to coincidence?”

Posted by: shelby | June 20, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

You can sing the words to “Heart and Soul” to the piano part in “Walkin’ in Memphis”.
“What’s Goin’ On” and “Don’t Worry Be Happy” can be sung simultaneously (hilarious).

Posted by: fun music girl | June 20, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Green Day’s “Brain Stew” vs. Chicago’s “25 or 6 to 4.”
The Offspring’s “Get a job” vs. Beatles “life goes on”
Ray Parker Jr’s “Ghostbusters” vs. Huey Lewis and the News “I want a new drug”
There are definitely more. Have fun!

Posted by: lancer | June 20, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I’ve always thought it incredibly odd that the opening chord structure and mood of “You Never Give Me Your Money” by the Beatles was oddly similar to the opening chord structure and mood of “Fly Me to the Moon.” Don’t know if there’s anything to it, but if you look at the chord structure, these are pretty complex chords we’re talking about, not your basic, C-F-G kind of thing. Someone put some thought into it. I wonder if Paul M. was listening–or reading–”Fly Me”‘s music sheets one day and decided to lift the very emotive chord structure. Not that that’s stealing, but I’d love to know if it’s true.

Posted by: Will | June 20, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

The Police’s “Every Breath You Take”
and Leo Sayer’s “More Than I Can Say” Also,Stealers Wheel’s “Stuck in the Middle With You” and Sheryl Crow’s “All I Wanna Do”. These are virtually twin songs by different artists.

Posted by: Jill | June 20, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

“Under Pressure” by David Bowie and Queen and “Ice Ice Baby” by Vanilla Ice.
“With or Without You” by U2 and “Shadow of the Day” by Linkin Park. Helen Keller could tell you it’s a total rip-off.

Posted by: Ed | June 20, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

re: “Under Pressure” by David Bowie and Queen and “Ice Ice Baby” by Vanilla Ice.
this was legitimate. Bowie licensed the riff to Vanilla Ice.

Posted by: david | June 20, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

I think sometimes it can be chalked up to who the band’s influences were. Just this morning I was listening to The White Stripes “Icky Thump” and it sounds as if Jack took a cue from the Jimmy Page school of guitar playing.

Posted by: Diane | June 20, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

I have heard both songs and I think Coldplay may have copied. I love Coldplay but after hearing the Creaky Boards song, it’s just too close. WAY too close. Closer than any of the songs mentioned above.

Posted by: Nikki | June 20, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Beatles “Sexy Sadie” and Jet “Look what you’ve done” … I know its an intential nod to the Fab Four… but it just bothers me.

Posted by: matt w. | June 20, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Mr. Van Winkle never obtained permission to use the base line from Under Pressure. He was threatened with a lawsuit and the 3 groups came to an undisclosed agreement without going to court.
Bowie and Queen were furious about the a$$clown’s use of the music and never licensed anything to him.

Posted by: jim | June 20, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Green Days “Warning” and The Kinks “Picture Book”…It’s basically the same song.

Posted by: Cwolf | June 20, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

I hate it when later musicians redo classics. Like Vaughn doing exactly Hendrix. What’s the point? That one could? That amounts to nothing of any value. If you are creative you should do your OWN stuff.
It makes me think there are a LOT of plagiarists in the music business rather than “artists” as they proclaim.

Posted by: Dman | June 20, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Eric Carmen’s “All By Myself” and Rachmaninoff’s 2nd piano concerto. Carmen took both the melody and the chord structure and sued the arrangement as well! Have a listen.

Posted by: padajo | June 20, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

This is probably a publicity stunt. I never knew them before this. Now I do. Kind of pathetic for Creaky Boards to try and sue Coldplay.

Posted by: BrittanySmiles | June 20, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

What about Green Day and Oasis? Especially with Green Day’s “Boulevard of Broken Dreams” and Oasis’ “Wonderwall”?

Posted by: Michael | June 20, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Black Velvet, Bad to the Bone, Come through my Window…
All have the same base line.

Posted by: TRed | June 20, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Blues Traveler “Hook” and Pachelbel “Canon in D”. Would make an awesome smashup.

Posted by: HopAlongBob | June 20, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Heart’s ‘Barracuda’ Led Zeppelin’s ‘Achilles Last Stand’

Posted by: Ruby Tuesday | June 20, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Sammy Kershaw..National Working Woman’s Holiday & Tracy Byrd’s 10 Rounds With Jose Cuervo

Posted by: Tim | June 20, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

allan raible is a record-industry shill. what a surprise.

Posted by: khefer | June 20, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Elvis’s “It’s now or never” vs “O Solo Mio”

Posted by: bob | June 20, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

You forgot Tchaikovsky’s Swan Lake and pretty much anything by John Williams. Listen to the Star Wars theme, especially Vader’s march, if you don’t believe it.

Posted by: Ann McMillan | June 20, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Tom Petty complained about the RHCP in 2005, but then in 2006 released a new album, Highway Companion, and the first track, Saving Grace, and a direct rip-off of George Thorogood’s hit One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer. Way to be a hypocrite Mr. Petty!

Posted by: Yeti | June 20, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Dman – Stevie Ray Vaughan didn’t copy Hendrix. He played Jimi’s songs in his own style just like Hendrix played Bob Dylan’s songs in his own style. There’s a big difference between paying homage and ripping someone off.

Posted by: Ed | June 20, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

ABBA’s “Dancing Queen” and Shania Twain’s “C’est La Vie”

Posted by: Wozzy | June 20, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

matt w, I totally agree with you on The Beatles’ “Sexy Sadie” vs. Jet’s “Look What You’ve Done.” I think you’re right, that it was intentional on Jet’s part (after all, this is a group who it seems took their name from a Paul McCartney song!)…but it always bothered me, too.
Michael, I get where you’re coming from on Green Day’s “Boulevard of Broken Dreams” vs. Oasis’ “Wonderwall.” The verses do seem to have similar progressions, but I think that the similarity ends at the chorus.
By contrast, listen to Simple Plan’s “Your Love is a Lie” vs. Green Day’s “Boulevard of Broken Dreams”. Simple Plan has unabashedly lifted nearly the entire tune from Green Day–verse and chorus. I haven’t looked to see if Green Day has a credit on the song…but if they don’t, they should.

Posted by: Olivia | June 20, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Cold Play sucks! Just a bunch of pouty, spoiled faggots.

Posted by: Maximeliano | June 20, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

John Lennon was sued by the estate of Chuck Berry for the line “Here come ol’ flattop” in “Come Together”.

Posted by: saxman | June 21, 2008, 5:42 am 5:42 am

Dman …it’s called paying homage to ones idol. SRV played Jimi’s music better than Jimi, so what’s your point?

Posted by: Truth | June 21, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

Billy Joel – “This Night” and Beethoven – Pathetique Sonata, movement 2. I think this was intentional…

Posted by: Samantha | June 21, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

How about opening guitar riffs, Pearl Jam’s “Given to Fly” from Yield and Led Zeppelin’s “Going to California.”

Posted by: Kim | June 22, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

All these bands just need to calm down.If you really want to get into it all the major bands of the past would still be paying royalties to the estates of all the old blues and country stars.

Posted by: bill | June 22, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

All these bands just need to calm down.If you really want to get into it all the major bands of the past would still be paying royalties to the estates of all the old blues and country stars.

Posted by: bill | June 22, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Cold Play thinks they’re the new U2. WRONG. They can’t even lick the boots of U2. Bunch of posers.

Posted by: Tom | June 22, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

When did Coldplay split their name into two parts? Oh hang on, you’re cretins, right?

Posted by: Scrote | June 24, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Creaky Boards made the whole thing up. My friend showed me a musician named Daniel Bernsteins myspace page and he has proof!!

Posted by: sara | June 24, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

How about the opening riffs of “Jeopardy” (Greg Kihn Band) and “Train in Vain” (The Clash)?

Posted by: SWLinPHX | June 24, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

The two songs do sound remarkably similar!…
but only because they both have thoughtlessly simple beats, and whiny “I’ve got sand in my vagina” singing voices. Shame on both bands!! And shame on all of us ‘music fans’ (GOSSIP FANS) for giving a teeny tiny rat’s ass!

Posted by: Marissa | June 24, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

The songs sound similiar, who cares. the creaky boards, who the hell are they……oh, there the band that tried to sue coldplay. congrats, they got there name out there. seriosly though, there is soo much music out there that sounds like something that already exists, especially today in the rap industry. Its like this, people that already dont like Coldplay heard the similiarities before they ever even heard that other song, Coldplay fans the opposite.

Posted by: joshua | June 25, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

how about the whole ‘ice, ice, baby’ by vanilla ice thing and ‘under pressure’ by queen?

Posted by: nikki | June 27, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Come on! There are only so many chords and it’s only rock n roll. As, I believe Keith Richards said, “I’m still looking for that fifth chord …”

Posted by: Jim | June 27, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Radiohead’s “Nude” and Led Zeppelin’s “Since I’ve Been Loving You” are quite similar, mainly because of the same bluesy basslines that go through the verses of each line. And the funny thing is that Led Zeppelin copped that song off of old blues standards. Even with all that said, “Nude” is a beautiful song, and I doubt the similarities are intentional.

Posted by: Jason | June 27, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

OK, sorry to post a great song and an awful song, but more than a few times I’ve heard an opening track and expected to hear John Mellencamp’s “Jack and Diane.” What I’m often tortured with instead is the painfully screeching voice of Jessica Simpson singing, “I Think I’m in Love.” You can bet I change the station when that happens!

Posted by: Ashlee | June 27, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Phil Collins – Groovy Kind of Love and Fall Out Boy – I’m Like a Lawyer With the Way I’m Always Trying to Get You Off

Posted by: Flob | June 27, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Funny coincidence: Yesterday I watched Coldplay’s performance on the Daily Show and the guitar solo part of “42″, complete with drum section and all, reminded me of some other song. Just couldn’t come up with what it was. Probably a Radiohead tune – wouldn’t be the first time Coldplay sounded like them.
This supposed Creaky Boards sound-alike is a stretch though.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | June 27, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

People, people. Consider how much music has been written throughout time. Now consider (or estimate if you will) how many notes, chords and chord progressions are possible. With this in mind, OF COURSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE MANY SIMILARITIES IN MUSIC!
Sheeesh. Next topic. PLEASE!

Posted by: hattrick58 | July 5, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

What about Joan Osborne’s “One of Us” and the theme song to Jackass??

Posted by: Seth | July 13, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Where’s my baby? by the Rolling Stones and k.d. lang’s Constant Craving…she said in an interview that she was flattered that they sounded so similar…Keith Richards wrote the song and his daughters pointed out the similarity…

Posted by: Melinda | August 3, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Sorry, the song’s called “anyone seen my baby”. Oops

Posted by: Melinda | August 3, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

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