Madonna Breaks Silence on Gaga ‘Born This Way’ Controversy; ’20/20′ Exclusive Tonight

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ABC NEWS’ ALICE GOMSTYN and JIM DUBREUIL REPORT: Nearly a year after Lady Gaga released her hit single “Born This Way,” Madonna is finally offering her take on the song … and it’s not exactly enthusiastic. Gaga has long expressed her admiration for Madonna, calling the pop icon an inspiration. Comparisons between the two divas have been inevitable, from their dance-hall beats to their risque musical treatment of sex and religion. The two even teamed up for a “catfight” skit on “Saturday Night Live” in 2010.
But last February’s release of “Born This Way” had many questioning whether the Mama Monster had gone too far in emulating her idol. The song, critics charged, was stunningly similar to Madonna’s 1989 chart-topper, “Express Yourself.”
Gaga would go on to say that she got an e-mail from Madonna’s “people” saying they supported the song, but a representative for Madonna later said she was unaware of any such e-mail. When ABC News asked viewers to contribute questions for Cynthia McFadden’s interview with Madonna, the most popular request by far was that McFadden find out how the singer feels about Gaga.
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McFadden did, starting with the question of whether Madonna felt Gaga was “copying” her. The pop singer’s response, at first, was complimentary. She called Gaga “a very talented artist” and said she admired her songwriting. But she owned up to the connection between Gaga’s music and her own.
“I certainly think she references me a lot in her work. And sometimes I think it’s amusing and flattering and well done,” she said.
Madonna said sometimes Gaga’s work also appears to be a “statement about taking something that was in the Zeitgeist, you know, 20 years ago and turning it inside out and reinterpreting it.”
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“There’s a lot of ways to look at it. I can’t really be annoyed by it …because, obviously, I’ve influenced her.” But the Material Girl became coy when the conversation turned to “Born This Way.” “When I heard it on the radio …I said that sounds very familiar,” Madonna said.
Asked if that felt annoying, Madonna responded, “It felt reductive.” Pressed as to whether that was a good or bad thing, Madonna told Cynthia McFadden to “look it up” — we did; the term means “minimal” or “crude” — before smiling slyly and taking a sip from her tea cup.
See more about what Madonna had to say on Gaga, including whether she’d do a duet, tonight on “20/20″ at 10 p.m. ET.
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Posted by: tom | January 13, 2012, 8:39 am 8:39 am
Lady Gaga ripped off Madonna and Marilyn Manson ripped off Alice Cooper……
Posted by: jackson | January 13, 2012, 8:39 am 8:39 am
I don’t care for either one of them. Their lyrics are so shallow. Madonna needs to get off her high horse…YOU’RE NOT BRITISH!! And talk about crude, her attitude toward “common” people is disgusting.
Posted by: Lua | January 13, 2012, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I’ve never really understood the whole Madonna craze or how she has stayed famous all these years. She has maybe three songs I can stand.
Posted by: michael1_4 | January 13, 2012, 8:54 am 8:54 am
HA! This coming from the woman who was sued over stealing parts of another song for Ray of Light. She should tread lightly. This brat may have been Queen for decades, but in today’s culture, this “above the people” persona doesn’t work anymore. I mean, hello Madonna, you don’t even have a Twitter account to interact with your fans. You don’t think you need to. Gaga doesn’t NEED to tweet or interact with fans anymore, but she does, and that’s what helps her garner so much influence. You could learn a thing or two instead of being so “untouchable.” You seem to only do interviews or interact with your fans when it benefits you directly and you need something (ex: her plea for help for Malawi. It had a fabricated feel to it and wasn’t very successful). Try engaging more, Madge, maybe we’ll love you again.
Posted by: ChicaoDP | January 13, 2012, 9:03 am 9:03 am
“Reductive”? That’s big talk coming from someone who’s claim to fame started with “Material Girl.” Born this Way is hardly my favorite song of Gaga’s, but please spare us the pseudo intellect, Madonna.
Posted by: Miranda | January 13, 2012, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Madonna has influenced Lady Gaga, but Madonna has copied other’s as well. It was Mae West who wrote, directed, acted, and was arrested for opening a play called “Sex.” Hence title of Madonna Sex book. It was Marilyn who Madonna was influenced by for “Material Girl.” And in 20 years, there will artist influenced by Lady Gaga. It’s just a generational influence. I do not see any similarity with Lady Gaga’s “Born this Way” to Madonna’s “Express Yourself.” Madonna in Express Yourself, to me was speaking to women of the 90′s. Lady Gaga is speaking to anyone “who feels less then, or feels their part of the subculture, is attempting to raise their self esteem, and saying it’s ok to be you, because literally, you were born this way.” Madonna never had the Balls to address Gay Rights in a more forward way, as she was more concerned about record sales, and in that time, a song about gays or a subculture society wouldn’t have sold.
Posted by: Earl Barnett | January 13, 2012, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Lets see, Lady Gaga HAS TALENT, CAN SING, LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, seems like a class act inside and out. Is a kind-hearted sweet LADY. MaGAGna lacks talent, doesn’t have an ounce of class and became famous for ‘acting like something that sounds like my garden HO. Wearing your underwear in public for attention maDADA that didn’t take talent, which you clearly don’t have. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Lady Gaga, I never bought ANYTHING MaGAGme um “sang”. Oh and Madodo…. you aren’t ENGLISH, you’re from the inner city of Detroit, stop trying to use the fake English accent. Guy dumped you. Your career is over. Just go roll in your cash and go away.
Posted by: Jo in Minneapolis | January 13, 2012, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Why does Madonna talk with a British accent? She is from a ghetto in Michigan. Another reason for the Brits to laugh at us.
Posted by: jmiccey11 | January 13, 2012, 9:27 am 9:27 am
I’m not sure what dictionary ABC is using. It seems they are trying to make this more than it is. According to Webster’s dictionary, reductive means “of, related to, causing or involving.” This definition makes more sense than the one ABC has plucked, and it is also far less controversial.
Posted by: David | January 13, 2012, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Madonna is the QUEEN, the original. People are already getting tired of Gaga. The monsters are in here FUMING as I knew they would.
Get over it, you all stan for a carbon copy. We love the ORIGINAL.
Posted by: Amber | January 13, 2012, 9:42 am 9:42 am
She’s Madonna. She doesn’t have to kiss anybody’s ass, Little Morons. Madonna needs a Twitter account? Why? To give people the illusion that she’s accessible? She isn’t just like Gaga or any other celebrity. It’s all shallow. As for Gay Rights. Madonna is one of the pioneers for it when it wasn’t the latest fashion, shoving it down everybody’s throats like Gaga. Gaga’s actually alienated gay fans because her exploitation of it is obvious. You think gays would have flocked to Madonna if they didn’t feel the connection? GIve me a break!
Posted by: Dani | January 13, 2012, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Madonna is a legend, period! Lady gaga is just some new kid in the industry..
Posted by: Mulenga Nkole | January 13, 2012, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Madge is just pissy because she’s no longer relevant LOL.
Posted by: MaryKaye | January 13, 2012, 10:08 am 10:08 am
True Meaning:
5. a simplified form, such as an orchestral score arranged for piano
4. a form of an original resulting from a reducing process, such as a copy on a smaller scale
1. the act or process or an instance of reducing
2. the state or condition of being reduced
All these meaning all points to the definition of Plagiarism:
” the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one’s own original work, as by not crediting the author: It is said that he plagiarized Thoreau’s plagiarism of a line written by Montaigne. Synonyms: appropriation, infringement, piracy, counterfeiting; theft, borrowing, cribbing, passing off”…
so Ms.G ‘passed offed’ Ms. M’s work as her own, without ‘owning up’ to it.
Sue her a$$ Ms. M!
Posted by: REDUCTIVE | January 13, 2012, 10:12 am 10:12 am
both are agents of satan false prophetresses of doom and gloom.
Posted by: phoenix | January 13, 2012, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Lady Who?
Posted by: SK | January 13, 2012, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Poor Cynthia had to look up the meaning of reductive. LOL
Posted by: jamccs | January 13, 2012, 10:16 am 10:16 am
I don’t care for either of them. They are who they are and if people are “into” either one of them good for them. They are just not the kind of “artists” I care to listen to.
Posted by: MSNGLN | January 13, 2012, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Wellll…. I was a huge Madonna fan in the 80′s and 90′s and am now a big Gaga fan. I think there are some similarities but they are also very different. Overall, I like Gaga better as a person- she doesn’t have (or at least doesn’t seem to have) the enormous ego that M has and seems to really care and speak to young people that are bullied or don’t fit in. Madonna sort of always put herself above others which is a turn off, but I do agree that she was the trailblazer for many artists. When I was a young teen in the early 90′s I remember how controversial Madonna was for things that these days wouldn’t even be talked about- just a different generation. I remember watching “Truth or Dare” when it first came out in 1991, I had to watch it secretly (I was 13 or 14) and thought it was amazing (remember these were the days before internet or reality tv!). She definitely is one of a kind (although I will agree with a previous poster that she did “copy” things from Marilyn Monroe, Mae West, Marlene Dietrich etc). But everyone borrows from the previous generations pop stars, you know? I don’t really see the controversy here- Gaga may have borrowed some musical notes for “Born This Way”, yeah, I see the similarity between that song and “Express Yourself”, but so what? Not like Madonna never did either (borrow). Gaga is speaking to a different generation of young people, her own generation – not our young people of the 80′s and 90′s. It’s different, I think she is different. Both are talented. End of story.
Posted by: Jennifer | January 13, 2012, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Madonna has copied so many…women (Marilyn Monroe, Mae West), men (Michael Jackson). She has marginal talent and great PR. Where does her superiority come from? Good question.
Posted by: Roberto | January 13, 2012, 10:28 am 10:28 am
@Roberto: Where does Madonna’s superiority come from? How about 30 years of dominating in a very fickle industry? How about selling over 300 million records, making her the biggest selling female artist of all time, in the company of MJ, Elvis, and The Beatles? MJ wasn’t even the first one to do the moonwalk, but it’s coined as his. Yes, celebs borrow from one another. The similarties were obvious and Madonna just points it out. Madonna had her influences, but she acknowledged them too. What’s the huge deal? Overall she approves of Gaga. Madonna’s an amazing performer and creates music that millions have loved for decaded and that’s why she is “superior”
Posted by: Dani | January 13, 2012, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Madonna is a Bowie rippoff , As if she were ever original….
Posted by: Coggs | January 13, 2012, 10:46 am 10:46 am
I’ve been a fan of Madonna since she first came onto the scene. I like Lady Gaga too, but if you watch her video for “Born This Way” she clearly tries to use some of Madonna’s style in the 90′s down to the cone bras. Madonna is a great business woman. As far as to address her accent, well after so many years in a country it’s only logic that you would start sounding native, the same reason my British grandparents (who moved here in 1958) sounded American after a period of time. All artists copy other artists, it’s part of the business.
Posted by: Madonna Fan | January 13, 2012, 10:47 am 10:47 am
You would think people would be more alarmed by how Gaga totally lied regarding Madonna’s opinion about the song. Putting words into the Queen of Pop’s mouth for damage control. Tsk tsk tsk.
Posted by: Hmmm | January 13, 2012, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Lady Gaga is now, Madonna was then. Move on.
Posted by: dan | January 13, 2012, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Simply time to pass the torch. 30 years from now Gaga will be sitting there, possibly with some strange accent, talking about the latest, young singer with a hit song with that familiar beat.
Posted by: Agingdiscoqueen | January 13, 2012, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Unlike Madonna, Lada Gaga has talent. Madonna sucks. Always did, always will.
To the person that said that Madonna was from a “ghetto in Michigan.” Rochester Hills is hardly a ghetto.
Posted by: Fred | January 13, 2012, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Imitation is the best form of flattery. What is Madonna worried about.
Posted by: carole | January 13, 2012, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I don’t know what Madonna’s whining about. She’s trying to imitate a refined, classy British woman! Unfortunately, Madonna has never been a very good actress, and that clearly hasn’t changed! The come-and-go accent is really stupid. If she’s that worried about imitation, she should take a look at her own daughter. The kid looks like a clone from the 80′s. Unless, of course, Madonna’s just trying to re-live her glory days through her daughter!
Posted by: glofish54 | January 13, 2012, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Oh come on people! Madonna was, is and will be the only Queen of Pop! GaGa is pretty talented but we should all admit is kind of a copy of her. I’m 20 and i used to love GaGa but i started listening to Madonna’s discography (from “Madonna” to “Hard Candy”) and i found an obvious similarity which made me change my opinion about GaGa. Some of the comments i’ve read here are sad and stupid like “Why is she talking like a british woman?” WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH 30 YEARS OF SUCCESS AND DOMINATION IN THE WORLD OF POP NOT ONLY IN THE US BUT IN THE REST OF THE WORLD? Face the truth little sad monsters.
Posted by: Pedro | January 13, 2012, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Imitated never duplicated.
And to people saying Madonna is no longer relevant… lol
That’s why her most recent tour is the highest grossing tour by a solo artist EVER!
Posted by: The King | January 13, 2012, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Lady Ga Ga should pay Madonna 50 percent royalties. A total rip off.
Also Lady G does great music hooks but can she shorten her songs 50 percent. Way too long.
Posted by: Benkarkis | January 13, 2012, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Lady Gaga is obviously ripping off Madonna – from the look to the lyrics to the song. Yes, it’s flattering but it shows she has zero originality and is nothing but a very calculating attention seeker. Had to laugh watching the video. The younger generation didn’t grow up with Madonna and do not realize just how much she has ripped off and that they are actually paying money for a very pale imitation of the original that their parents enjoyed. Gaga, of course, is laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by: xpres | January 13, 2012, 11:41 am 11:41 am
@Fred: Gaga obviously thinks Madonna has talent since she’s had to emulate her whole career into her act!
@Carole: Does Madonna look or sound worried to you? She is just stating the obvious. She DID compliment Gaga.
Posted by: Hmmm | January 13, 2012, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Oh man, Madonna…Lady Gaga epitomizes you. You should be flattered, but of course your Kabal and 23 year old boyfriends have deluded you to the fact that you’re a dried up crone. And why YOUR opinion should matter more than MINE is beyond me (gotta love our society). Further, I’ve got news for you – I could never stand you (yeah, I grew up in the 80′s), but I really like Lady Gaga. Go figure!
Posted by: thatwasobvious | January 13, 2012, 11:43 am 11:43 am
@thatwasobvious: really? You sound more like you grew up starting yesterday. Don’t lie, 15 y/o. Madonna said she was flattered. What more do you want. You’ll see just how dried up she is when MDNA sells millions and her tour probably breaks yet another record, which she currently holds.
Posted by: Hmmm | January 13, 2012, 11:48 am 11:48 am
the big difference is this…Madonna has used old iconography to say something new back then…Lady Gaga, which from my point of view is much more talented but awfully misguided and used by the industry, has used Madonna and other big artistic references to say nothing that haven’t being said before and only ignorant people without a clue about pop culture could think she is saying entirely original and authentic….
Posted by: tito | January 13, 2012, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Anyone with one name MUST be more important than lowly commoners.
Posted by: newcountryman | January 13, 2012, 11:55 am 11:55 am
I wish people would SHUT UP about Madonna having an English accent. She DOES NOT, and at the time she had a slight twang she was living in England with an English husband, so picking up an accent was inevitable. I suppose in a country where the stupid Kardashians and Jersey Shore retards are put on a pedestal, an articulate, well spoken, intelligent person does come across as foreign, British even.
Posted by: Derek | January 13, 2012, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Madonna is the queen, always will be. Lady Gag Me is a freak.
Posted by: KJM1968 | January 13, 2012, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
wow Madonna definitely has to get off her high horse.. it’s only reductive to you because you feel threatened by such a talented artist. You haven’t been playing ball since 08 and you’re now releasing a single that is destined to debut at #1 because you’re collaborating with younger artists in order to stay relevant and having HEAVY promotion from the Super bowl… eradicate nicki minaj and MIA and the super bowl from the debut single and what do you have?? A FLOP
Posted by: Joey | January 13, 2012, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
I thought Madonna seemed like a jerk and an insufferable snob in this interview. I always thought her music was just ok (fun to dance to) but her acting is downright lousy. After this interview, my opinion of her declined a bit more.
Posted by: Missy Me | January 13, 2012, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
MADONNA is the original and GAGA admits to being influenced by Madonna. Both are talented artists and business woman. Get over it!!! And by the way……..where is this British accent everyone is talking about? I don’t hear it. She has always spoken this way. I have family and friends in England and none of them sound like Madonna. I look forward to new projects from both MADONNA and GAGA. Keep it coming ladies!!!
Posted by: David | January 13, 2012, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Much of Gaga’s other music doesn’t sound Madonn-ish….so what if a Madonna song inspired one of hers? Really, Gaga has more talent than Madonna anyway (Gaga was writing for OTHER pop stars before she emerged on the scene) so Madge ought to take it as a sincere gesture of respect.
Those who think Gaga has no talent clearly know nothing about her. I’m disappointed in Madonna’s reaction–it’s not the first time she’s insulted Lady Gaga, either. Sad.
Posted by: Jen | January 13, 2012, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Y’know, rather than taking the high road and being complimentary, this continual snubbing of her own fans that Madonna has been doing is really not doing her any favors!
Posted by: JamesOnly | January 13, 2012, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
As Steve Jobs once quoted “all great artists copy”., that’s true with Madonna, who borrowed influences from all over. However, she is indeed an icon for over 30 years and has every right to critique Gaga as reductive. Gaga is simply Madonna warmed over. For the tweenie/hip hop American Idol loving crowd out there, auto tune music is their world and Gaga is a perfect example of that type of “music”. But for us old enough to grow up with true musicians and performers creating real music, Madonna is an original. Love her or hate her, she set the benchmark for others to emulate.
Posted by: bluemeanie | January 13, 2012, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Madonna’s “Express Yourself” ripped off the Staples Singers “Respect Yourself”, but no one seems to ever really bring that up.
Posted by: Diosoth | January 13, 2012, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
THE ONLY REASON MADONNA IS IN THE PUBLIC EYE RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSING SHE’S RELEASING ANOTHER SONG. OTHERWISE. WHO CARES? SHE’S A HAS BEEN.
Posted by: BETHM | January 13, 2012, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
I love her! She’s real, with no apologies!
Posted by: Liz | January 13, 2012, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Tooooo funny, this article should be re-named Lady and the tramp, seems no one read the article till it talked about something or someone relevant. Leave it to Ma-done-a to ride the coat tails of the younger generation, like when she had to french kiss Britney Spears for attention. Sitting there like some demure proper lady, when all she has ever been known for was being a tramp. How low do you gotta go Madge? Oh wait…. lol Notice no mention of Cher being the original no holds barred diva… you know.. someone who can actually sing.
Posted by: onlyanegg | January 13, 2012, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Love them both. Both are incredible marketing gurus!! I can definitely see the similarities which is probably what drew me to Gaga. I don’t understand what all the hostility is about…there is clearly room for both artists. I think Madonna loves to create a buzz and purposely says things that will get people worked up and talking about it. Hence, all of our posts. Did I mention marketing gurus???
Posted by: Marisol | January 13, 2012, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I think everything is about GENERATIONS, Madonna was the generation, Michael Jackson also was, Lady GaGa is MY GENERATION! She’s my Michael Jackson And Madonna… Nobody Else.
Posted by: Johan | January 13, 2012, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Madonna your old and a has been. Let others make a break. Lay down and take it like a lady that is if that was what you did during your career not to insult real women
Posted by: Jim Rod | January 13, 2012, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Gaga is finished she is a copy cat
Posted by: Foreverbeyonce | January 13, 2012, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
I thought Madonna was very gracious here.
Posted by: warbaby | January 13, 2012, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Let me get this straight: First of all Madonna has admitted to paying homage to the past (sitting influences like Debbie Harry at the beginning, old Hollywood (Monroe, Dietrich and Mae West), gay subcultures, House Music, East Culture, Disco etc where as GaGa rips off a living relevant artist and has done it MULTIPLE times and denies it. Express Yourself and Born this Way have the same melody and chord progressions when speed up to the same speed. For those claiming Express Yourself was a copy of the Staples Singers Respect Yourself you need your ears checked…aside from a similar lyric and message they are not alike. BTW and Express Yourself on the other hand are the SAME song. GaGa has also copied Madonna’s looks in her videos and at the Grammy’s and then has the nerve to deny it all last year in a profanity laded rant (in which she had to apologize for using retarded). I like GaGa’s music and think she is talented but Madonna is simply the greatest and most influential female in music history. Not b/c she sold the most or sparked the most controversy but b/c she is an exemplary song writer and entertainer. Without Madonna GaGa wouldn’t even exist. GaGa might technically have a better voice but Mariah Carey has a better voice than John Lennon…does that make her a better artist? Madonna is Madonna…the Queen of Pop while GaGa is a pop star walking on the road Madonna paved for her. Little Monsters open up your ears and get out of attack mode.
Posted by: Michael | January 13, 2012, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Both of them suck and rely on stupid, over the top stunts to stay in the news. BUT just like that awful waste of time JERSEY SHORE, there are enough small minded people out there that will watch and follow them over a cliff.
Posted by: jstate83 | January 13, 2012, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Madonna bears an uncanny resemblance to Joan Crawford, lately
Posted by: Christine | January 13, 2012, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
There is not a thing wrong with Lady Gaga and since she became famous, people have done nothing but try to find reasons to say she’s bad. She doesn’t deserve it. Nobody deserves it. Can’t you see what a nice person she is? She wouldn’t lie, and even if she did, is this really what’s important? An email? Who thought of what first? Who said what about this and what this person said about that? Maybe her rep just didn’t know about the email. The way people talk on these websites is wrong, but they get away with it. I’m not yelling at anyone. I’m just saying what I think is true. : (
Posted by: amy | January 13, 2012, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Micheal, let me tell you one thing or two about being a celebrity and being a legend. Madonna dosent needs to interact with her fans via twitter like lady gaga does. That thing you see as being above the people and fans is not the case. The right way to see it is that she at this stage in here life has defined her status and in order to keep that she dosent need keep up with certain things. Her fan base is solid whether the little monster question them or not (granted those people are insane and brainwashed). Madonna is a legend in music and icon that has lived in this industry for more than 25 years and has helped shaped the path for women in music just like precious gaga. Gaga needs to learn a lesson from Madonna once she finally establishes herself in music as a solid legend, and is to not give herself away easily to the public. When you do that you stop being seen by other as legendary and more as a mere celebrity.
Posted by: Roland | January 13, 2012, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
“Why does Madonna talk with a British accent? She is from a ghetto in Michigan. Another reason for the Brits to laugh at us.”
We laugh at you yanks because we love you really. Madonna is an idiot though.
Posted by: shaunoftheA | January 13, 2012, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Let’s just settle this right now.
Madonna is the Queen of Pop.
Always will be.
Gaga had her few minutes, she has peaked already and is on her way out.
She read the Madonna playback and imitated it perfectly.
She should have read the book about overexposure.
Everybody I talk to used to like her (including myself) but are sick of her now.
Take a break Gaga and come back in a couple years..everybody deserves a second chance.
Maybe you will get one.
Posted by: Rob K | January 13, 2012, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
As Keith Richards said, when he was accused of “stealing” from Chuck Berry, “Everyone steals from everyone.”
This “rift” between Madonna and Lady Gaga is just publicity. If it weren’t for Lady Gaga’s current popularity, no one would be talking about Madonna. (Not to diminish Madonna’s success…but her time came and went.)
Posted by: STEVEN DALLMAN | January 13, 2012, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
I don’t know where Cynthia McFadden looked up the word, “reductive” but she found a poor meaning of the word….an easy understanding of the word, “reductive”, especially in the form Madonna used it means….”to change from one form to another”…..it’s very simple, Madonna is saying she feels Lady Gaga took her own song, Express Yourself, and made some changes to it and totally changed the lyrics, and came out with, Born This Way….the two songs do sound a lot alike, from the tempo to the lyrics.
Anyway….I don’t get Madonna’s “high horse” act?!….and what’s with the slight hint of British accent, hasn’t she lost that ridiculous thing yet??….she sounds silly trying to talk like that….I guess Madonna believes everyone in the whole world is glued to her and cannot wait to hear all about her life, WOW, talk about arrogant….her describing how she has NEVER cooked an entire meal before in her life because she has nannies, housekeepers, drivers, her children, blahblahblah do the cooking for her….and she calls herself a mother?!….good mothers take care of their own children, doesn’t matter how much money they have and if they can buy people to care for their kids, they care for their own kids anyway because they want to…and are good, loving mothers….talk about somebody with a narcissistic personality….WOW!!!….tell ya what, I don’t particularly like Lady Gaga or Madonna, used to like Madonna in the 80′s and early 90′s though…but if I HAD to pick, I’d go with Lady Gaga in a heartbeat…because she’s kind, humble, and not arrogant at all….btw Madonna, with all the money you have don’t you think you can fix that horrid gap between your two front teeth now?? YIKES!
Posted by: Kadee | January 13, 2012, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
@bluemeanie: autotune? Have you heard all of Gaga’s music? She came from jazz singing. In piano bars. Take a listen to “Teeth” and let me know how ‘autotuned’ it sounds to you.
Posted by: Jen | January 13, 2012, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
The three luckiest women in the world……..Madonna, Gaga and Yoko Ono.
Posted by: LW | January 13, 2012, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Some of y’all may want to check out “Speechless” by Gaga as well. She’s talented. And versatile. Dont go by what plays on the radio…..I really wish she’d release some of her piano ballads.
Posted by: Jen | January 13, 2012, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
@HMM…I wish I’d seen your enlightened (and accurate!) comment earlier. 1. Watching Madonna in concert today: eww. Watching you watching Madonna in concert today: LOL. 2. I’m 36 years old, born in 1975. So my advice to you is, don’t quit your day job to become a psychic.
Posted by: thatwasobvious | January 13, 2012, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Madonna vs Lady Gaga aside, what’s with the sexist comments? A male performer ages and keeps performing, no one says anything. A female performer ages and she’s expected to step aside? That makes no sense. If you’re good at what you do, then keep doing it. Madonna is good at what she does. Lady Gaga is good at what she does. There’s room for both. Madonna will just be around after Gaga is gone. Just like Cher. Also, Madonna should be commended for being very brave in the beginning of her career becoming a gay icon in a time when AIDS was just starting to terrorize the world and was considered the punishment for gay people. Consequently she’s raised millions of dollars for AIDS funds and more importantly raised awareness. Finally, the marketing genius attack on her may have held more weight in the first two years of her career, but if she really does suck like some of the commenters are saying, how does she keep selling music and breaking sales records at her concerts? No amount of marketing can sustain 30 years of disinterest.
Posted by: Rob Roy | January 13, 2012, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
i always thought madonna was a kind, and a worthy person, to be called Queen of pop, but after watching this… i an anti-fan.though i never really favored her ,anyway.Lady gaga, is kind-hearted,intelligent,beautiful, and inspiring, unklike Madonna or any other celebrities now days. Madonna has very tough skin, as in, she seems as if though, she is made of metal, and raised by a family starving wolves. When i see Lady gaga perform, whether its an interview, or concert, she doesnt seem to be hiding her feelings, yes, maybe info, and opinions, but not her feelings. She is full of life, i love that. Pop stars, will go on, maybe… as you say “copying” one an other, but thats the art of it. Today, when you think of a Pop star, as you draw this mental picture in your head, you think Kiss or Madonna. Bra or spandex. Highheels or boots. But as one said ^ Madonna needs to get off her high horse. She seemed so snooty, maybe as a result of 30 yrs of Harsh media, and rumors. Plz, Mother monster… dont absorb the poison, known as media, and rumors.
PAWS UP.
Posted by: class of 2015 | January 13, 2012, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I am the same age as Madonna. I always despised her but I love Lady GaGa. The first time I heard “Edge of Glory” I cried my eyes out. It was beautiful. The only thing Madonna did at that age was roll around on the MTV award show and hump the floor.
Posted by: Lucyii | January 13, 2012, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
15 million Americans out of work, $15 TRILLION of national debt and a Campaigner-in-Chief who hates capitalism. Yeah, this Gaga/Madonna stuff is really important.
Posted by: s | January 13, 2012, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
all i hear is the pot calling the kettle black. Madonna can be annoyed with the songs sounding alike, but it was meant to sound 80ish. But as far as calling it reductive, Marilyn, Mae West, Michael Jackson, all could sing the same tune about Madonna’s work. And least Lady Gaga gives the credit to the influence. And she doesnt look down on her fans from a high horse like Madonna is so often riding.
Posted by: Isake | January 13, 2012, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
It took Madonna 14 years to get her 5th Grammy. Took Gaga just three. 12,000 members of Grammy’s voting academy seem to know their stuff !
Posted by: Marble | January 13, 2012, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
I was very surprised to find that Madonna did not make eye contact during her interview with Cynthia McFadden. I found that quite disrespectful.
Posted by: Maria Angiuli | January 13, 2012, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Madonna really needs to stop acting British and like she’s better than everyone. Yes Madonna had a couple good songs but Lady Gaga has not yet had a song that I don’t like. Born This Way is one of the most incredible songs ever. Not only by the beat and the music but the message to. Gaga is going to change the world and all Madonna does is look down on it. Gaga is a lot more talented and is the queen of pop.
Posted by: LoveGaga | January 13, 2012, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Madonna became an icon with her dress styles and also pushing the envolpe and doing what she does best BEING MADONNA. But its another thing all together for Lady Gaga to do similar gimmicks like Madonna. I dont really like Lady Gagas style because she is just copying Madonna.. instead of doing her own style and gimmicks. To quote the HighLander” There can
be Only One”.. same applies to madonna.. There is only One madonna and she did it for us 40 somerhings.. todays generation has to live with the mediocre Lady gaga.. If Laday Gaga had her way and style i think people would not compare her but she has brought these comparasions upon herself.
Posted by: FREDERIC SALGADO | January 14, 2012, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Honestly I think there both very talented, I don’t see any comparisons with them, they might seem the same at first , but there both uniquely different , why do you people have to be so negative all the time, neither of them are perfect , but they both have worked hard to get were they are right now , I don’t think Madonna was being self righteous , I think she was just answering honestly about how she felt, whether its true or not why does it matter, even if Gaga is copying Madonna, who cares, everyone has copied everyone in music including Madonna , it doesn’t mean that neither of them are talented , I don’t think Madonna took it very seriously anyways, she was smiling , so she was probably just making conversation, not everything needs to be taken so literally.
Posted by: michael | January 14, 2012, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Yep, Madonna with her fake British accent is a joke. She started out great. But she has been a joke for so many years that it outweighs any of the good stuff. Today, talking that she just feel in love with a 24 year old who refuses to rub her feet. Madonna is a has been hag.
Posted by: rio6767 | January 14, 2012, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Madonna is the queen. Lady Gaga is fake all the way.
Posted by: Jon | January 14, 2012, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Madonna must have spent hours or had someone do it for her to come up with “reductive.” Lady Gaga has never denied influences, but Gaga is truly an original, unlike Madonna Gaga is a musician and can actually sing with a great voice. She (Gaga) will be around a long time.
Posted by: jba | January 14, 2012, 1:55 am 1:55 am
lady gaga eeeeeew.,..yuck!…………
Posted by: GothicAngel | January 14, 2012, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Maddonna has always been a snotty b**ch to her fans. Who is copying who with the Cirque du Soleil act, adopting African children (Angelina Jolie) and Express Yoursel sounds suspiciously like Otis Redding’s Respect but she WON’T amit to any of that! She’s live half her life in Europe, doesn’t do anything for the American soldiersor people, and doesn’t even watch football. She can’t dance, sing that great, write songs or play an instrument or act or dirext. The worst choice of all time for the Super Bowl halftime, I wish I could go just to Boo her!
Posted by: chelsea arlos | January 14, 2012, 2:24 am 2:24 am
How is this headline news?….. Two pop divas with Ego’s the size of their record sales who claim to admire each other yet are so cordial about it…. still I can’t help shake the feeling Lady Gag wears those outfits to distract from her face….
Posted by: DBM | January 14, 2012, 2:32 am 2:32 am
Alright, take note boys and girls.
This is a perfect example of how money may be able to buy you a phony pretentious British accent, and a hot Latin sperm donor, but it absolutely CANNOT buy you grace or any degree of class.
Posted by: Venus Rising | January 14, 2012, 3:05 am 3:05 am
I saw the whole interview and cannot figure out why the fuss. She didn’t say that much about anything and she was definitely not insupportive of Lady Gaga and Gaga’s “Born This Way” tune. This is an excellent example of how the media likes to exaggerate in order to gain attention.
The best part of this interview is Madonna using a word that should be known to anybody who has a bachelors degree from any college (“reductive”). The fact that McFadden and ABC had to “look it up” says it all. Madonna, Who at this point knows her art history and is well read (she has one of the most phenomenal collections of art by the female surrealistists of the 30s including Kahlo), was just trying to raise the intellectual level of the conversation. She simply was trying to get across that Gaga took the idea of ‘To thine own self be true’ and expressed it without the complexity and richness Of all the metaphors Madonna uses but what do you want.. Gaga is a young girl with a pop music vs art background.
This is why Madonna will always be “on top” re such stuff – her work and thought is and has always been much more in the traditional art world than pop and Gaga is and has never been there (it’s not her nature).
Btw, Madonna actually did do a duet with Gaga. They did a song together on Saturday Night Live.
I wish McFadden had asked her about her art collection. Look, Madonna is adverse to interviews because they tend – as this one was – to be shallow. Norman Mailer interviewed her and she liked that so ..it’s not her; it’s you. You should hire me to interview her. She would enjoy that because I have the background she relates to.
Posted by: LjR | January 14, 2012, 9:46 am 9:46 am
This whole argument is stupid. The two songs are similar, but Born this Way is not a copy of Express Yourself any more than Ice Ice Baby is a copy of Under Pressure, or Vanilla Ice is trying to copy Bowie. New musicians are influenced by old ones. Just because these are two women, who are blond, who have large gay followings, people are trying to equate them. Let’s stop comparing them and instead appreciate them both on their own merits. Madonna broke new ground for women and in music, and Gaga herself is breaking the ground even further. They are both talented and both will have their place in history. Sure, the questions came from the fans, but ABC loves making this a controversy and you can be sure what Madonna said will be plastered all over the internet fanning the flames even more. In the end, you’re all being manipulated into buying more records and watching more movies.
Posted by: Rick | January 14, 2012, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Too bad Madonnas from Rochester Hills….the FARTHEST thing from a ghetto. Lady Gaga > Madonna. Why the hell is she trying to make a comeback.
Posted by: ML | January 14, 2012, 10:50 am 10:50 am
@”S”: Yes, this news is a bit more trivial than the jobless rate or other world troubles. It’s a nice break from ‘bad’ news. Some of us also work jobs where we see death and destruction on a daily basis, so, lighten up will ya? Can’t focus on gloom and doom every moment of every day.
Posted by: Jen | January 14, 2012, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Ugh. I hate to even comment, but Madonna is so fake – I can’t stand it. “reductive” – I wonder how many hours it took for her team to come up with that response. Talk about the Queen of Imitation. The pot calling the kettle black… She’s old, and bitter.
Posted by: CCinNYC | January 14, 2012, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I hear the similarities, I would be a bit perturbed too. I relistened to Madonna’s express yourself since I am a little young for it and heard Gaga’s in my head as an overtone.
I think Madonna didn’t whine about it just tried to express her views vaguely, but ultimately understands it and moves on. When my little sister copied what I did it was annoying and years after the fact I find it endearing. I still liked my sister then and do now. Madonna has also expressed admiration for Gaga with her vague animosity. They are both making millions and will be public friends for the sake of their image.
Posted by: Shelly | January 15, 2012, 3:29 am 3:29 am
i find this sad
magde borrowed from so many over the course of her career.
gaga is now following suit. as do ALL artists.
chord progressions?…….ha
so thats ALL i need for success?
copy CHORD PROGRESSIONS and someone”s “style”
and i”ll be a success in music!!!
haaaaaaqaa.
oh! oooops!
need TALENT- yeah. well GaGa seems just by volume to have ample amounts of that.
wish madge would have taken the high road here
again
so sad!
Posted by: patty | January 15, 2012, 8:33 am 8:33 am
this has gotta suck
i mean imagine YOUR idol
someone you’ve praiised and looked up to and strived to be like…
AND you put it out there…..OVER AND OVER the adulation you have for someone
AND
THAT is the response.
ugly. just ugly for women to behave this way toward each other in the same industry.
all in the vein of promotion.
hope that if Lola gets into the buisness, SHE chooses a better role model than GaGa did, when she made her choice.
madonna fail!
Posted by: luvvb1 | January 15, 2012, 8:51 am 8:51 am
LOL at Madonna trying to look smart … HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Kim Kardashian | January 15, 2012, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
MADONNA IS THE QUEEN GAGA IS A COPY FAKE
Posted by: william | January 15, 2012, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Just why is it that after all these yrs. that woman is not capable of knowing who she is?? Every time I see this girl, of moderate talent, speaking about anything she continues changing her persona??
This time she is “the grand lady”(in appearance only) but still w/ that same insecurity as always and of course the stupid white trash laugh. She’s gotten rather dramatic with her “OH?” as she swings her fake head. Not bad acting for Madonna but it’s still transparent. I know her problem is is that she’s from the mid-west as I am. We know just how we are. Don’t we, Madonna?
Give it up, just don’t speak except to those who you know personally. Keep it up w/ the media and all you do is to continue to make a fool of yourself.
Madonna, yes:”Even Madonna” give this a think: you don’t “have it”, you know it and you never will have it so just keep your mouth shut. You’d be far better off. One word from your insecure self speaks volumes!!!
Altho if you do decide to just stop faking it (I don’t think it’s a decision you have) just then what will I have to laugh at? You are not capable of being yourself. One has to know oneself in order to be consistent.
I guess a phony, a real true phony is so aware of it that that’s just who they’ve become. You are a real example of that. One good thing, there aren’t too many real phonies.
Posted by: snorky | January 15, 2012, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
I don’t care for either Madonna or GaGa. But GaGa can sing! Madonna is so moderate a talent that her success was due to timing and those who constructed her.
I wouldn’t know 1 song from either one of them but I have heard enough bits and pieces to know that GaGa is the singer.
Posted by: sa lad | January 15, 2012, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
i grew up with madonna’s fashion’s reviews on tv and boy george and new edition i have had lipsticks like adorable miss temptress ,celebrity the kohls line firt and i have lilac gloss and used to wear a cream pearls and white pearl and black crystal braclet from express and guess to complete my look i don’t have them now but i wear jonas brother earrings and arm bands and red lipstick with jeans to make me look glam
Posted by: kendra bethune | January 15, 2012, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Madonna hasn’t been relevant in 20 yrs. She also never had any real talent other than showmanship. Hell, even the gays have turned on her.
Posted by: ssk | January 15, 2012, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
The Pot Calls the Kettle Reductive — Someone should ask the Staples Singers what they think about “Express Yourself” compared to their “Respect Yourself.” Then ask Debbie Harry what she thinks of Madonna as the “Marilyn Monroe of Rock.” Ask Annie Lennox about “Who’s that Girl.” Watch “Diamonds Are a Girl’s Best Friend” from “Some Like it Hot,” then watch “Material Girl.” Watch Fritz Lang’s “Metropolis,” then watch “Express Yourself.” Listen to Barry White, then listen to “Deeper and Deeper.” Listen to Madonna’s lyrics, which freely lift lines from the Jackson Five, the von Trapp Family singers, Barry White, the Beatles, Cole Porter, and the list goes on. Madge is the Queen of Reductiion.
Posted by: Jimmy | January 16, 2012, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Elton John asked Lady Gaga to be the God-mother of his child, not Madonna. I think Madonna just doesn’t like to be compared and thats her way of making herself feel better. I like a lot of madonna’s music, but she needs to get off her high horse and remember her roots and where she came from and how she stared off. She copied others just as many artists do, so why is she hating on Gaga!? BFD!! Her snobby wanna be British attitude makes me like her less as a person, but I will still listen to her music.
Posted by: Anna | January 16, 2012, 2:44 am 2:44 am
If Gaga did copy, then she didn’t copy from Madonna. She copied from The Staple Singers. With there song, ‘Respect Yourself’. Please, Madonna seems old and dried out, and the reason why she has the ‘highest grossing tour’ is because she’s had more time. Leave that Gaga alone. I have to admit, she has much more talent than Madonna. She can actually belt a decent note unlike most singers. And at least she wrote ‘Born This Way’. Stop comparing someone who is actually musically inclined to someone who, well… just isn’t. Gaga may be a little crazy and very provocative, but in this case, I’m for her.
Posted by: Brenda | January 16, 2012, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
madonna is the most influential and iconic female pop star the world has ever or will ever see! period. she will always be burping and farting her relevance to the newer generation pop stars. all these kids talking about how madonna is irrelevant crack me up. if she’s so damn irrelevant, then why does EVERY young female pop star from britney to gaga to rhianna wanna be her? NOBODY has had the impact on culture, sexuality, fashion, dancing ect like madonna has with the exception of Michael Jackson (R.I.P.) in her prime, she had the WHOLE WORLD dressing like her with bleached blonde messy hair, boy toy belts, jelly bracelets, fingerless lace gloves ect gaga hasn’t had anywhere near that kind of impact and she never will! nobody wants to look like her. aside from the fact that she’s ugly (with a huge nose) she looks freakish and constantly makes a spectacle out of herself whereas madonna was new, different, interesting and sexy and that’s why girls all over emulated her (and still do)! and lastly, i think it’s hilarious how gaga caters to gays and kisses their butts to have that loyal fan base that THE QUEEN has naturally! your fans are suppossed to flock to you, not the other way around!
Posted by: lindsay | January 17, 2012, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Lady Gaga will never be able to match Madonna’s 80′s output. Plus Lady Gaga’s style is all dark and disturbing. No comparison who the real diva is.
Posted by: Kevin | January 17, 2012, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
I think this is very petty. Madonna had her chance at encouraging people with her music & now it Lady GaGa’s turn. I don’t think she re-did her song I think she re-shaped it into something greater.
Posted by: Christy | January 17, 2012, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
She has never sung with Tony Bennett- check out his duet CDs- that’s good enough for me.
Posted by: Seaside Lady | January 17, 2012, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
This is coming from a woman who stole Justify my love (Ingred Chavez wrote and used Public Enemy beat)
Madonna Steals For Her Song “Let It Will Be”
Confessions On A Dance Floor – “Let It Will Be” by her rips off the synth on “Silent Mourning” by Mad Machinery
Posted by: Rosemary | January 18, 2012, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Madonna = the past, yesterday, aloof, separate from her fans, currently irrelevant, used her gay fans to get popular but did absolutely never stand up for gay rights. Lady Gaga = today, tomorrow, open and genuine, loves and communicates with her fans, consistent and vocal supporter of gay rights and anti-bullying initiatives. I used to love Madonna but no more. Erased all her songs from my iPod. She just seems sad and bitter. Compare any interview with Madonna and Lady Gaga and it’s Gaga who comes across as a class act and truly appreciative of her fans.
Posted by: Desertdao | January 20, 2012, 1:48 am 1:48 am
To Maddona; AAHHH.. SHADDUP YOU OLD PRETENTIOUS HAS-BEEN!!!!!!
Posted by: Daft | January 22, 2012, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I Love Madonna, I like Gaga, but there’s no similarity between “Born This Way” and “Express Yourself”. I don’t hear it at all. Even the meanings behind the songs are different. Madonna is someone I worshiped once upon a time but she’s showing herself to be more and more out of touch with the public. She’s constantly behaving so pretentious and conceited in her interviews and I agree with another comment that says her lack of communication on social media sites is alienating a potentially bigger fan base. People like Billy Joel and Elton John. Thats a big shame because her music does still sound very youthful and with the times. I’ve been a fan of hers for over 20 years and I never thought I would type a negative review about her. She needs a new publicist or manager or SOMEONE to be honest with her and tell her she needs to loosen up or risk losing the few fans she has left….
Posted by: Daniel | January 23, 2012, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Madonna is an icon, not only to her generation but for the many generations to come. But Gaga has only been around for a few years and has also, already, made herself a music icon and a human rights activist. Madonna had/has a huge gay following, but Gaga just has a surreal deep connection to them. I honestly believe Gaga and her fanbase were a big reason DADT was repealed. She’s more of a role model than any artist has been in decades. Madonna’s talent was her bravery not her music. Gaga however, is talented in both areas. Over time Gaga will surpass everyone, and will be known as the “Ruler” of pop music, not just the “Queen”.
Posted by: Alicia | January 28, 2012, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
There is no such thing as being original….
Posted by: PianomanCJ | February 3, 2012, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Gaga is just a much better performer, and sings with power vocals. She does everything at a higher level. Madonna is an old skinny broad who is just completely disgusting to look at now.
Posted by: Chris Bucks | February 15, 2012, 8:32 am 8:32 am
I love Lady Gaga and she IS THE QUEEN OF POP! I mean , Madonna barely had any hit songs and LADY GAGAS BAD ROMANCE< ALEJANDRO < POKER FACE< TELEPHONE THEY R ALL HITSSSSSSSSSS! once thing is copying and another is talent. Lady Gaga has the talent. ADN YES, wat is madonna mad about?she was , gaga is now.
Posted by: Adiel | February 15, 2012, 10:59 am 10:59 am