Teen Attack Videos Lead to Arrests Outside Dallas

Disturbing, but not surprising. We live in a society that rewards violent and irresponsible behaviors: reality TV, sports, corrupt politicians and lavish corporate executives. With these people for role models it’s naive to expect anything else.

Why this is shocking. How could this brutal behavior occur in our society. Yeah right !!! Get used to it, it’s just around the corner. A result of exposure to every day violence, from a very young age, and a guiltless society where the criminals are treated like heroes and the victims questioned. Have you checked your TV Guide lately. We choose to ignore and address the cancers that are eating away at our country.

Lock ‘em up and throw away the key . . . then see if any other idiot tries to do the same thing.

While appalling this is just another manifestation of society’s ills. In a country where young peoples values and morals are being corrupted by the media, government and the apathy on the part of many parents this is not surprising.
I am not a right wing conservative but family values, morality and just plain common sense have taken a beating so to speak. It time to reprioritize our lives so that we instill in our young people respect for their fellow man.

They need jail for life. I hope no body died from this. they kids are crazy.

Locking them up and throwing away the key is one option, but don’t you think we should be addressing the root cause of the problem, and not attempting to close the gate after the horse has bolted?

What if the teens just wanted to see what it felt like to inflict pain into someone remember the kid in western ney york that killed another for no reason that was on here a year or so ago. He had no reason to do it he didnt even know the child, he just wanted to see what it felt like.

Notice we can watch the videos here too. What’s that about? Let’s just continue to perpetuate the problem and feed the violence culture! Making stars out of the culprits does nothing to help the situation whatsoever!!

While I agree wholeheartedly that parents need to take much of the blame for their children’s aberrant and violent behavior, I’d also suggest that society is making it increasingly difficult to be a good parent. In many instances society…the media…even the schools undermine our ability to be effective parents in spite of our best intentions. Today, parents that demand much of their children in terms of respect, responsibility, high principles and standards are portrayed as restrictive and wrong. Society encourages children and teens to take their cues about how to live life from everyone but their parents. And reaslistically, no matter how diligently you work to make yourself an active part of your child’s life and even guard your child’s exposure to the filth and degraded morals that are rampant in today’s society, the message still comes through…you have your rights, nobody should tell you what to do, live your life however you want.
I hope these criminals pay deeply for these atrocities. But at the same time, I do believe that society holds a moral obligation, as well as the parents, to evaluate the consequences of the values they are reflecting to today’s youth.

Becoming dangerous to raise young children in America.
Concerned mother of three.

The latitude and the rights of parents to discipline our children has been taken away. Kids scream “I’ll call CPS” and the parents feel their hands are tied. And the kids know it. There is no respect for the parents, or teachers, or preachers, or even the authorities from these kids. We need more wood sheds like years ago. An “attitude change” was always the lasting result back then. And if it didn’t stick, you made another trip. Not now.

If these guys want to fight there are other ways to get out their teenage testosterone and boredom induced aggression, such as the local gym where they can train as boxers or even UFC fighters. Street fighting is not where it’s at. At some point somebody is going to pull out a gun.

This is the first time I think I’ve seen young people attacking one another without using guns.

Send them all to Iraq and let’s see how brave they all are.

There are many good points raised here, and like myself, by posting here, (I have a feeling) many of us feel that someone will read this and take action. Tha action begins at home. I have two very active boys…2 and 4 years old. Till this day, I try not to even let a water gun come into their hands. The other day I saw my older son hold a water gun and he knew exactly how to use it—scary! I very calmly directed him towards some other activity. I try not to watch violent shows in front of them—I’d rather that we have ELMO, Barney or Dora on the TV screen all day then have them watch the violence on today’s media. Instead of the violent video games, Leapfrog is doing wonders with that form of media entertainment…I would spend extra money for it. Most important would be for the parents to become more involved with their children…life is demanding more and more of our timel; that makes it harder for us as parents to become involved in our kids’ lives. I would like to say one thing, being a fairly new parent, I see that the people of my parents’ generation spent too much time “making a future for their kids” hence their kids grew up while they were at work earning a living—making sure their kids have everything they need. I say the kids need their parents…let the kids worry about money when they need to worry about it, its okay to say no to something they want, thats how they’ll learn the value of it. Kids need parents to talk to them, to take them to the park, to play a ball game with them….don’t let the media raise your children. Its a lot harder to change the society, much easier to start with yourself.

Does anybody remember “Bum Fights” or the video from L.A. where the kids drove around with the paintball gun and shot people. By giving this story exposure people will replicate the behavior in order to get their 15 minutes. Its the same with the people on “Big Brother” or “The Real World” because by acknowledging their behavior they have an outlet. As for the attackers perhaps a harsh sentence is in order. That is for a judge to decide.

It will all be taken care of soon when he comes and God help those that are guilty

Pete, above, has said volumes in two paragraphs. How do we rally against this violence tendancy? That is the question we must address.

I am a student at Bowie high school which is apart of the Arlington Independent School District. I am a very into the student body and the gossip and the beef. I know and knew of the tape which is AGG-Town Fights Prt 1-2.I mean and i understand how parents are feeling about all of a sudden seeing this come out on the news of all places but before this happened these parents KNEW but they ignored it thinkin that it was just kids being kids. If you adults think about it today then you will know kids aren’t acting the way that the parents did in the old days. We are doing more vulgure things and more things that we can honestly say we don’t care anymore. Yes that is ashame but asd much as we don’t like it or want to live with it……..It’s there.
In this day and age that is how we resolve or conflicts and earn respect in these streets. Arlington use to be a suburb way before kids from other neighborhoods came in and tried to make it the same way there old neighborhood was, and as much as we don’t want to say it Arlington is a “hood”. Agg Town Fights isn’t something that we should be punished for because everybody in this world has had some type of altercation where that is the way you resolved it ” a fight”. There are some kids that just want to be known around there local area by as a “bad one”, and the fight tape was just an oppurtunity to do so. I just don’t think anybody including the person who mad it should be in trouble. I believe this really taught a lesson all in it’s own. I mean Dang we get it.

Why not hold the kids responsible? At some point in their life they make their on dicisions. Why does it have to be society, parents, videos, or “role models”? These thugs made a concious decision. They should be held accountable, no one else. Parents can only teach right and wrong, the child will eventually make their on choices.

Great thinking Tex, send already violent youth into a violent culture where public hangings, beheadings, and execution style slayings are the norm. Maybe our military could teach them things like how to aim center mass, violence of action, and flanking positions. If not the Sunni and Shi’ite death sqauds can teach them how to work out on someone with drills which is their norm.
Responsibility lies with the criminals. In this case kids. The parents deserve some culpability in that but again, as a parent myself, you cannot compete with what is going on out there. I am there to provide good advice to my children but if they decide to follow and go wrong because they feel people like 50 Cent and G-Unit are what it’s about then dont stand on the box and tell me I failed. I didnt create 50 Cent the role model.
Yes, they made the decision but they are part of a community culture that that glorifies violence, social unrest, promiscous sex, and drugs as a way out. That has spilled over into sports where these thugs continue to be thugs.
Ultimately, the criminal pays and that is rightly so but the broader picture wont be addressed because that would cramp somones style, infringe on thier so called civil liberties, and ultimately get picked up by the same groups who have caused our children freedom to act rotten in school.

ITS NOT A FIGHT CLUB. WE DON’T GET TOGETHER AND PLAN STAGE FIGHTS. ITS ALL REAL! IF PARENTS HAVE SUCH A BIG PROBLEM WITH IT THEN PARENTS NEED TO KEEP THERE KIDS AT HOME.I KNOW OF PARENTS THAT WATCH THESE TAPES WITH THEIR CHILDREN. FIGHTING IS APART OF OUR SOCIETY AND NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS ITS STILL GOING TO BE THERE. WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON WHO MADE THESE TAPES WAS THERE TO FILM THE FIGHTS OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO HAPPEN. THE FIGHTS ARE REAL… THIS IS REAL BEEF. THE PEOPLE WHO FIGHT HAVE REAL PROBLEMS WITH THEIR OPPONNET. IM NOT SAYING THAT FIGHTING IS RIGHT BUT ITS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. POLICE SHOULD REALIZE THAT PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL OR WHATEVER ISNT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS. NOBODY THATS A TRUE FRIEND IS GOING TO SNITCH ABOUT ANYTHING!

Jeee Whiz, children are no longer responsible for their behavior, its the parents. Thats some real rocket science. We find every excuse for why little Johnny does bad things, bad parents, spanking or he does not socialize. Give me a break, bottom line is little Johnny does not need an excuse, he needs to be held responsible, not the parent. As parents we can only install good examples and a stable foundation. The court system does it best to hold parents 100% accountable for Johnny.

Just another reason why I carry a firearm.

I would have to agree that it is not the media’s fault for these acts of violence. I am only 22 years old, and when I was a child, it was totally different, that was only a couple of years ago. It seems our schools, and neighborhoods grow worse and worse every day. I was able to go out a stay out past dark. Now, you can’t let your child out of your sight for being scared that they will get beat by a 8 year old, or even sexually moletsted by an 8 year old. This has nothing to do with the media, it has to do with the parents of the child. Children aren’t getting raised the way they should, or the attenion that they should get.
Installing good values on a child is one thing, but not installing them at all is another.

Do we need to make a new version of that song “Stop the Violence”? Come on people…stop doing this crap!

What are you all talking about, you can pretend all you want that this behavior is coming out of nowhere, but in reality, kids have been fighting for a long time, and its never going to end. What you need to work on is the glorification aspect of it, because that’s where the problem lies. No one looks at these videos and says “Hey I wanna get my behind beat like that, lets go out and do it” its the promoting of this that gets gullible kids to do it. Fighting will never end, its instilled in us all, ‘survival of the fittest’, remember? Its only natural to have fights happen, but it’s unnatural to glorify it unless its professional fighting. Kids are gonna be kids no matter what, and personally I think everyone should get an behind kicking once in a while to remember that you can’t take on the whole world, someone out there has your number.

AS I WATCH ON THE NEWS THESE KIDS ARE ALL APART OF THIS TAPE, THEY ARE NOT VICTIMS JUST THE ONES WHO LOST THE FIGHT. AS FOR MEDIA (PLEASE) WHERE DO YOU THINK FIGHT CLUB CAME FROM?? INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PUT MORE YOUNG KIDS IN PRISON FOR SOMETHING LIKE FIGHTING SPEND MORE TIME ON REAL CRIMINALS, LIKE CHILD RAPIST,AND SERIAL KILLERS. THESE CHILDREN AND THEY ARE CHILDREN NEED DISCIPLINE AND LOVE, NOT TO BE PUT IN JAIL, RUIN THEIR LIVES, WHERE THEY HAVE THIS BAD RECORD AND CAN NOT GO OUT AND GET A GOOD JOB AND THEN COMMIT MORE SERIOUS CRIMES JUST TO GET BY. ALL THESE PEOPLE CRYING ABOUT THESE KIDS FIGHTING SHOULD TAKE A LOOK BACK WHEN THEY WERE KIDS I AM PRETTY SURE THEY HAD AT LEAST A FIGHT IN THEIR LIVES, SHOULD YOU BE IN PRISON.

Too bad they don’t have guns – we should just leave these morons to clean up the gene pool on their own. Would save this country a lot of money and hand-wringing.

I’ll tell you guys this much, I’m in the middle of a research paper for my college english class. I read over all your comments and some are just ridiculous. I mean, “It was scary how well my son could use a squirt gun” c’mon. It’s a squirt gun! It’s not that hard to figure out. In a real gun there’s a lot more moving parts than just a trigger. My grandfather has a lot of firearms and he showed me how to use them. Does that mean I’m going to snag them all and race down the street and shoot up the whole place? no. I’m not stupid.
I’m 20 years old, I was basically raised in Rochester NY in the worst spots. There were stabbings and such outside my mothers apartment all the time. My mother was an alcoholic and my father left before i could get to know him. We watched horror movies all the time, played mortal kombat, and listened to stuff like Black Sabbath and Metallica and Nirvana. I’ve never been in a fight, never done drugs, and obviously doing well in school. Before my mother could teach me what was right and wrong (of if she could), I had to learn it on my own.
Im writing a research paper right now depicting how a lot of parents will turn a cold shoulder to their children and deny to the bitter end that their kids do anything wrong or that it wasn’t the kids or parents fault, it was cause of games like Grand Theft Auto and movies like Fight Club. Well I’ve played all the GTA games and must say, theyre incredibly fun. Its based on realism. You do something bad, you’re wanted for arrest and busted, lose enough health and you go to the hospital.
Another thing is about Fight Club. Parents cannot use Fight Club as an example because most people haven’t actually watched it. Kids aren’t stupid, they watch a movie like that, and they’ll understand what it means. Also, nobody ever videotaped any fights in that movie. It was a big secret and word never escaped. The fighters also had immense respect for eachother before and after a fight. So to say that’s whats fuelling people is just a big lie.
It seems simple enough for me to understand. Most of the time when I find web pages like this all I see on the comments or in the articles themselves are “ban that game, ban that movie!” Basically what they’re saying is “T.V. wasn’t a good nanny for my child, i’m going to try something different now, and because of that you should ban that show.”
Now if anyone uses the argument that the kids are just stupid, that’s because that’s how they learned to be from their parents or tv or baby sitters or siblings.
In psychology, its taught that people learn almost everything about how their personality will be and attitude and everything like that between birth, and about the age of 6. Who do they come in contact with most at that time? Either the parents, siblings, or shows like Barney most of the time nowadays. This may sound crazy, but when I was small and watched Barney or Loony Tunes, I wanted to put my fist through the TV. Its like barney was taunting me and insulting my intelligence! Once the understanding of violence has been achieved, then children will know when it is needed and when it isn’t (most of the time it isn’t), thats the key. I knew by the age of 4 and I know now that violence is unecessary. I use words to back out of a fight. I have many times.
One more thing about games such as Mortal Kombat. They have ratings you know…and the only way for most kids to get those games is through the parents. You can either read what the game’s about on the back, look at the RATING system on the game, or buy it without paying attention just cause your kid asked for it (which is the usual outcome). Some stores will sell those types of games to underage children, but where the kids come up with the 50 dollars i dont know, wait…yea i do…Allowance! from parents yet again!
If I’m intelligent enough to understand all these concepts then I would hope people who are grown up already, been through college and have families would be too.