Jul 25, 2006 2:00pm

Texas’ ‘Dirty Little Secret’: Thousands of Horses Slaughtered Every Year for Human Consumption

Nearly 100,000 horses are slaughtered in the U.S. every year for human consumption in Europe and Japan. There are only three horse slaughterhouses in the U.S. Two of them are in Texas, and all of them are foreign owned. Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens refers to it as Texas’ "dirty little secret." Today those slaughterhouses will be the focus of a hearing on Capitol Hill regarding the proposed Horse Slaughter Protection Act, which would ban the slaughter of horses in the US for human consumption. "While they operate in the United States and slaughter American horses, both the meat and the money go overseas," according to Rep. John Sweeney (R-NY). Equine veterinary surgeon Dr. Patricia Hogan, whose clients include Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex, will testify about the method used to kill the horses called the captive-bolt, which involves aiming a bolt gun at the forehead of a horse. She says the horses are treated in an "absolute deplorable way" from the moment they start the journey to the slaughterhouse until they enter the ‘kill pen’ where they are lined up to be shot with the bolt gun. "There is a great deal of room for human and technical error with the captive bolt method and the recommendation for ‘adequate restraint’ is loosely defined and open for interpretation," said Hogan in a prepared statement. Perhaps surprising to some, the American Veterinary Medical Association opposes the proposed act. Bonnie Beaver, a former president of the AVMA, will testify today saying that the captive bolt gun is a recommended form of euthanasia for horses because, she says, it causes instantaneous death. She also is very concerned about the welfare of the horses that would be impacted by the ban and that there would not be enough rescue and retirement facilities to house them. "It would be a daunting, and probably impossible, task to create facilities that could house an additional 10 times that number of horses every year," said Beaver’s prepared statement. Also expected to testify representing the horse processing industry is Richard Koehler, the Vice President of Beltex Corporation, a European-owned plant located in Fort Worth. He says the campaign against the slaughterhouses is one of misinformation that has been waged by the animal rights lobby. He says that the horses slaughtered at the plants are low-value horses from auctions that are unwanted because of bad temperaments, poor physical attributes or bad behavior. Texas oilman and self-described animal lover T. Boone Pickens, however, says that is not so and that many are of the slaughtered are thoroughbreds, Arabians and wild mustangs. "This is a black eye on our state and nation that demands action," he plans to say to the subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection this afternoon.

User Comments

I’m from Texas and I didn’t know that they had those slauter Houses there. That’s really sad if they are killing horses that have a good life ahead of them. I also think that when you kill an animal it should be done quickly and not alow the animal to be able to survive from the supposed kill!!!

Posted by: Vivienne | July 25, 2006, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

The problem begins with the many horses that are irresponsibly bred including the PMU debacle. The offspring may go to owners who don’t know how, or can’t afford to, care for them.
More horses are probably starving or neglected in backyards. Is that a better way to die?
I think horse professionals should speak out against breeding any unexceptional mare that comes along.

Posted by: CMF | July 25, 2006, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

How about sterilizing them and releasing them onto protected land where they can become part of the food chain…either killed by top predators or recycled by scavengers?

Posted by: Joe | July 25, 2006, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Why is killing a horse for meat so different than killing a Cow or an Elk or a Bear?
I agree that the kill should be humane, but the issue here seems to be more with just the fact of horse for human consumption.

Posted by: Stu | July 25, 2006, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

and our government is letting this happen they are probably making money off of this travisty also what is next selling people to cannibals overseas I wouldn’t put it past them

Posted by: marlene | July 26, 2006, 5:34 am 5:34 am

Your kidding, this is what Congress occupies it’s time with in the 72 days they will be in Washington? What about Healthcare, Immigration, unsecured Boarders, NSA violations of our freedoms, corruption, Wars? Lets worry about saving America and Americans From Congress. The horsemeat trade will resolve itself – it’s just another smokescreen to divert your attention from real people life and death issues…

Posted by: Your Kidding? | July 26, 2006, 10:43 am 10:43 am

The horses that go through these slaughter houses are not any that have “good lives ahead of them” as Vivienne put it. These are horses that are 15+ years old and have backs in the shape of a horse shoe. None of these horses they kill cannot serve any purpose from rodeo to show horses and are just left out to pasture. They are worth more to sell to a slaughterhouse than to spend money buying hay and grain to feed them. I don’t see anything wrong with this. Sure, the horses become best friends with their owners from all the hours spent riding and working, but we don’t see people complaining when an old dairy cow thats been milking for 10 years is sent to slaughter. This is perfectly fine and I just see it as part of the industry.

Posted by: Grant Thompson | July 26, 2006, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Also, this article makes the cap and bolt method sound like an execution. They don’t line up the horses and fire away. They are sent thru a series of gates and chutes. The cap and bolt method uses a rifle to fire a bolt into the forehead of the animal to render it unconcious, the beef industry is almost 100% cap and bolt. It is perfectly humane since the horse does not even know what has happened to it.

Posted by: Grant Thompson | July 26, 2006, 11:39 am 11:39 am

I too believe that overbreeding is the problem. This is the problem of the AQHA, APHA and other registries that promote overbreeding for profit. Those two organizations as well as the vets that do the breeding work are the true criminals in this debate. Breeding needs to practically come to a halt here.

Posted by: Janet | July 26, 2006, 11:59 am 11:59 am

“Breeding needs to practically come to a halt here.” you must be joking. Can you even imagine putting the horse on the endangered species list?

Posted by: Grant Thompson | July 26, 2006, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Why are horses so different than pigs, cows, sheep, or any other food stock? I could see if they were slaughtering people, but horses? Please! Let the politicians work on something more worthwhile, like funding alternate fuel research.

Posted by: Willie Davis | July 26, 2006, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Horse slaughter is illegal because it is a violation of the Humane Slaughter Act of 1958. The horses are struck more than once with the captive bolt pistol and they lose consciousness for thirty (30) seconds. They regain consciousness when they are hoisted by the left rear leg and they begin to scream as they are being vivisected. Yes, they are awake when they are being butchered.
That the American people cannot find placements for these ‘unlucky’ horses – many of which are stolen – is a myth. I own and operate a horse welfare organization and I have rescued a Seattle Slew son, a Secretariat grandson, a Secretariat great granddaughter, an Impressive son, and a Dash for Cash daughter and granddaughter. I rehabilitate these horses and they are mine for the duration of their lives. I find qualifed private homes to free lease them to. If something comes up and the lessee can no longer pay for the horse’s expenses, I take them back. This has yet to happen, but it is in my lease agreement that I will take the horse back. I can also ‘recall’ the horse if I want.
There is a solution to this problem, and I agree that breeding should be regulated – especially in the Quarterhorse industry. That is the most overly bred and commonly slaughtered horse in the United States.
I reiterate, it is illegal by virtue of a Federal Law to slaughter a horse.

Posted by: Elle | July 26, 2006, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Horse slaughter is illegal because it is a violation of the Humane Slaughter Act of 1958. The horses are struck more than once with the captive bolt pistol and they lose consciousness for thirty (30) seconds. They regain consciousness when they are hoisted by the left rear leg and they begin to scream as they are being vivisected. Yes, they are awake when they are being butchered.
That the American people cannot find placements for these ‘unlucky’ horses – many of which are stolen – is a myth. I own and operate a horse welfare organization and I have rescued a Seattle Slew son, a Secretariat grandson, a Secretariat great granddaughter, an Impressive son, and a Dash for Cash daughter and granddaughter. I rehabilitate these horses and they are mine for the duration of their lives. I find qualifed private homes to free lease them to. If something comes up and the lessee can no longer pay for the horse’s expenses, I take them back. This has yet to happen, but it is in my lease agreement that I will take the horse back. I can also ‘recall’ the horse if I want.
There is a solution to this problem, and I agree that breeding should be regulated – especially in the Quarterhorse industry. That is the most overly bred and commonly slaughtered horse in the United States.
I reiterate, it is illegal by virtue of a Federal Law to slaughter a horse.

Posted by: Elle | July 26, 2006, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Grant Thompson has posted a number of comments with which I would take issue were I writing a book, but I will confine myself to addressing his comment concerning the quality of the horses being sent to slaughter: “These are horses that are 15+ years old and have backs in the shape of a horse shoe.” It is obvious that he has never seen a feedlot of horses awaiting the slaughter truck, for he would have seen all breeds, all ages, all disciplines, and all conditions.
Do some research, Grant.

Posted by: Kathleen De Witt | July 26, 2006, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Mr.Thopmson could not be more off base on his comments. If you had bothered to watch or read some of the testimony from yesterday’s hearing you would have heard straight form the slaughter house rep that the majority of horses that are used for human consumption are young viable horses. I was involved in the rescue of a 6 month old filly from a slaughter truck, 14 other 6 month old babies didn’t make it off that trailer and were sent to slaughter. Another rescue I was close to saved 7 pregnant mares all under the age of seven from being bought for slaughter. More of the mares would have been saved but the killbuyers outbid the rescues. That is the ONLY reason they all didn’t find homes.
I volunteer ata rescue who buys horses off of feedlots, broker lots, and from kill auctions many of these horses are adopted before they even make through the front gates of the rescue. My opinion and beliefs are made of first hand accounts and my own studies and research. I don’t have to quote anyone for my information, can you say the same?
This is a point that was not made yesterday . Many people who want to buy a horse at auction are outbid by killbuyers. These horses are not unwanted and everyday another rescue or private citizen with honorable intententions open their doors to these horses. We as a Equine Community will make it work.
One last comment, the ProSlaughter propoganda machine is so full of half truths and straight out lies it actually scares me. Repeatedly during yesterday’s hearing I was raised to my feet to hear our gov’t reps repeating these fallacies!
And as far as this being a distraction form real issues. This is a real issue that many Taxpaying American citizens have worked extremely hard for. We have lost people along the way like Mary Nash and we continue in her honor. I am offended that people would scoff at our efforts. Horses helped build this country, you should be thankful.

Posted by: Laura Boothby | July 26, 2006, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Well, we could either slaughter them or sell them to a glue factory, the choice is yours. I find it hard to believe your statement that the horses are unconcious for only 30 seconds and awake when being killed. Have you ever seen how fast an animal is processed? Its only a matter of seconds between the horse becoming unconcious and the jugular vein being cut open, not anywhere close to the one half of a minute. Its very fast and painless for the animal. If it wasn’t, this would have been brought up a long time ago. The horses slaughtered do not look anywhere close to the ones in the picture, they are old and brokedown.

Posted by: Grant Thompson | July 26, 2006, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

To the folks that equate horses with other livestock, think of how this country was founded – not on the back of a pig. How did automobiles and trains come about – not from observing or riding cows, elk or bear. Horse slaughter is not like shooting a game animal, our slaughter houses were not built with horses in mind. They travel packed like sardines in transport trailers built for cattle, and are abused and frightened when they arrive. Let’s face it, the slaughter house workers are not animal advocates. The death chute is also made for cattle and not horses, they don’t fit well, they can see their comrades hanging. Yes, if we walked up and shot them between the eyes, that would be kinder, but we don’t. Horses are magnificent creatures with deep emotions, and intelligence. They serve us well without complaining and this is the end they deserve? Congress is spending time on this because this country was founded on the backs of these animals, and there is a lot of crime and abuse that goes with the slaughter of them. There are millions of horse owners in this country and there are very powerful people involved in the industry who are fighting to end inhumane slaughter practices. Let’s face it, congress probably does not spend a whole lot of time on this one. But I my book, it is an issue that needs attention.

Posted by: Janet | July 26, 2006, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

It is interesting to me how so many of you *think* you know all about slaughter, YOU ARE WRONG!
There are plenty of young & healthy horses that get the *captive bolt*! That came right from the mouth of the owner of a slaughter plant.
I suggest those of you who just *think* you know all about slaughter go educate yourself before you leave mesages like you have!
It is not the American way to eat horses! Why should we allow other countries to eat our horses?
What will be next, are you going to start allowing them to eat your children??

Posted by: Beth | July 26, 2006, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Actually I have seen how horses are slaughtered and it is not quick. They are repeatedly hit with the captive bolt. Horses by nature are flight animals and fight the entire process. They rear up and fall down in the blood slick kill pen. The horses next in line can see, smell and hear the entire process. They know it is coming. The captive bolt gun was designed for short neck animals, horse have long necks if you hadn’t noticed. Matter of fact if you bothered to research the entire process you will find that Horse slaughter is based on the fundamentals of other species. It does not take in account equine behavior or physiology. There are videos out there that are raw footage of the enitre process from them coming off the trucks all the way to the dismantling of their bodies.
Second this is not a recent issue. Mary Nash started this fight over 20 years ago. After her death from cancer many people continued her fight and many more joined. You keep making blanket statements with no real education or research behind them. You are spewing what you have read. I live rescue, I have seen the horses that were saved from slaughter, I have groomed them and fed them. I have found homes for them. Yes some are injured or older, but the MAJORITY are healthy, young viable animals. My friend just bought a young 5 year old healthy thoroughbred from a kill pen last week. This week on a rescue website there are several young and or healthy horses that are up for adoption or sale. Everyone of them could have ended up in the hands of a kill buyer. The rescue I mentioned before saves mostly young horses under the age of 8 months. Should I keep going? I seriously think you need to eduacate yourself some before you continue with your ignorant posts.

Posted by: Laura Boothby | July 26, 2006, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Mr. Thompson, my source regarding the 30 seconds of unconsiousness comes from Dr. Lester Friedlander, DVM and former Chief USDA Inspector. He has seen this process and he knows. Are you able to refute a Chief USDA Inspector who worked at the slaughterhouses? I think not. The horses regain consciousness after 30 seconds and they start screaming. Many slaughterhouse workers are injured from the flailing of front legs. The vivisection process does not go as rapidly as you mistakenly believe. These horses are very much awake and they are aware that they are being vivisected. That is illegal according to a Federal statute.

Posted by: Elle | July 26, 2006, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

I am glad that this issue is getting more attention.This Inhumane practice needs to be stopped in this country.These aren’t old, sick, and lame horses that are inhumanely slaughtered every day.These are healthy, young and sound horses.I go to the auctions, I see what ends up in the kill pen,always healthy young horses.Even the slaughter house agree on this.And the issue of horses starving in a field and dieing is simply false and pro slaughter propaganda.I can’t wait until September when this Truly Un-American and inhumane practice will finally be voted on and stopped once and for all.

Posted by: Nicole | July 26, 2006, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

I urge all you people who think there are only old horses going to slaughter to attend a local livestock auction on horse days and see with your eyes who is going to slaughter. Pretty painted ponies, fat quarter horses, and young appaloosas. Glue factories do not exist. Vetrinary assisted euthanasia is a very humane option – not as humane as stopping breeding. Believe me when I say, if we stopped breeding for 5 years, there would still be plenty of horses to go around and probably still 50,000 a year being slaughtered. There is a glut in the horse market and has been for several years. People breed anything with a uterus because they can and no thought to the animal the breeding will produce. The Jockey Club alone puts 70,000 horses on the ground anually and that is only one registry. The AQHA is somewhere around 150,000. All these horses for a country that is developing agricultural land as fast as it can. There are far more horses than riders here, and no need for them. That is the bottom line in this debate – too many horses – not enough riders.

Posted by: Janet | July 26, 2006, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

I have to chime in, too — Point one, as far as the quality of slaughtered horses goes, my first horse was rescued from a truck on the way to slaughter, and he turned out to be the best horse in the barn. Beautifully trained and smart, he was my companion for 18 years. The meat buyers don’t want the old and decrepit horses — they are not good eating! They want the young and healthy ones.
Point 2 — If there are too many horses in this country, it is because irresponsible breeders have the back-door outlet of slaughter for their rejects. If that were not available, you would find far fewer — especially those meaty quarterhorses — being born. And maybe the prices of the good horses would go up, while the prices of the poor ones would go down, into backyard-family range.
Point 3 — no parallel is possible with livestock that is raised as such. We don’t raise horses for food here — we raise them for other purposes, admittedly often to earn money for us. It is immoral to treat them this way. Even if the slaughter process were humane, which it isn’t — I have seen video and heard testimony that makes this very clear.
Point 4 — the slaughter industry makes a VERY small contribution to our economy. They have a few hundred employees total, and at least one firm pays essentially zero taxes, I have read.

Posted by: Judith | July 26, 2006, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Is there nothing worth saving unless it brings in money for someone. Horses have been the most important animal to man that there has ever been. For centuries, the horse has been used to plow our fields, to drag logs from the woods to build our homes, to provide us transportation, pleasure and sport. Do we not owe the horse something? Why not let the wild horses run on public lands instead of getting rid of them and renting the land to cattlemen to run their cows. The Bureau of Land Management has done a terrible job
handling this issue. Over abundance of Quarter Horses has caused most of the problem with domesticated breeds. There are ten times more Quarter horses registered every year than any other breed, yet they continue to breed them. AQHA is for allowing the horses to be slaughtered as is the AAEP. What are they thinking? Sending the surplus horses to be slaughtered after we have used them up or decided we just had too many is not unlike sending our mothers to be consumed by cannibals when she can no longer cook. It seems to me it is time to stand up to our responsibility, and take care of these noble animals who have served mankind for so long.

Posted by: Don Jones | July 26, 2006, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

If people want the truth they can go to the Mary Nash website, Just Say Whoa, or just type in horse slaughter into their browser. All the ones who want slaughter are too afraid to go and look because they’re all liers.

Posted by: Marilyn Wilson | July 26, 2006, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

I wonder if Grant would agree with his position if it were himself with age on him.
Every living being deserves the right to live out their lives in peace and harmony.

Posted by: Barbara Mason | July 26, 2006, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

“Its very fast and painless for the animal. If it wasn’t, this would have been brought up a long time ago.” Grant Thompson
Research, Grant dear, research.
Your comment reflects that you have taken a stand without researching and analyzing the issue. This HAS been brought up a long time ago. It is not a flavor-off-the-week-issue.

Posted by: Kathleen De Witt | July 26, 2006, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

The HSUS has two short films, which document the inhumane treatment of horses from the auctions and killer buyers to horses transported in doubledecker cattle trucks to pens where horses of every breed and age are held, to horses still very much alive on meat hooks after the bolt DOES NOT render them dead.

Posted by: Christi Fagerstone | July 26, 2006, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Horse slaughter is illegal and I demand this issue be brought before a court of law and justice be served upon all those involved. It’s time we end the ability for people to make money off of slaughtering our AMERICAN horses. What’s worse is that all horses, young, old, pregnant mares, derby winners, show horses, stolen horses (oh yes people make a living off stealing horses & selling them to slaughter), and our wild horses have all gone to slaughter. Just the other day several pen fulls of wild horses from the reservation were shipped off to slaughter. Horses that once roamed free are now on someone’s dinner plate. Slaughter continues because it puts big money in big pockets and I demand a full investigation as to why this illegal atrocity is allowed to continue. For those of you that think it is quick and painless you are WRONG. Go visit (UNNANOUNCED) to a slaughter plant and you will see how they are poked, prodded and beaten from the time they get off the trucks and see the terror they experience as they meet their fate. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on all those who condone this and to those who let it continue.

Posted by: Emma | July 26, 2006, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

For me the issue at hand is first and foremost- I would personally never eat horse meat, my throat wouldn’t allow it to go down and I have my own personal objections to it- I suppose if I was starving maybe I would feel differently, but, the people overseas that these majestic animals are feeding are not the starving middle to low class citizens, it is a delicacy and are feeding the more well off. Countries such as France-look it up -the information is available if your really interested in finding it. If you want to eat it-kill it in your own country where it’s acceptable and where it’s being consumed. Maybe we should start sending over thirteen year old girls to other countries simply because it’s acceptable for them to wed in other countries at that age too??!!!
There are also health issues such as horses are given shots and wormed on a regular basis unlike our own “meat” cattle-people will consern themselves with what pesticides their vegetables are being sprayed with -consider that.
Secondly, if it has to be done- do it humanely. A convicted criminal who has raped and murdered gets a more humane departure with a clean sterile syringe and are even alcohol wiped off before the injection is administered or just given life inprisonment but, a poor animal who has plowed, or pulled a carriage for the last fifteen years deserves less???
And as far as the animals all being old and worthless I myself obtained two Thoroughbreds under the age of four years old directly from the “Kill Buyer” that were going off to the slaughterhouse. Am I expected to believe they were the only two young ones ever to go to slaughter???!! I don’t think so.I’ve been to plenty of auctions and seen too much with my own eyes to believe monstrosity is anything but inhumane and should be shut down in this country.

Posted by: Laura | July 26, 2006, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

I am so sick of hearing about horses being slaughtered for the Europeans. Just because the horses are banged up or sometimes not even that, that doesn’t give anybody any rights to send them to slaughter. It is wrong and it should be banned for good. I have seen alot of good horses go through slaughter and auctions and nothing is wrong with them. This isn’t right. I have been a horse lover for too many years and i have also been a horse owner so i totally am against horse abuse, horse neglect, and horse slaughter. How would you feel if you put through that torture? I don’t think you would like it either. Think about it…..

Posted by: sharon | July 26, 2006, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

I am a horse owner! I was born loving horses . I would NEVER-EVER subject my wonderful pets,my companions to the horrors of commercial slaughter. The disrespectful slaughter industry is fueled by greasy palms, greedy killer buyers and selfish, foreign goons.The majority of horses sent through the blood gates to slaughter are young,healthy with few ,if any, behavioral issues.Horses do not deserve this cruel end full of suffering,pain and angiush.. Horses,like eagles are symbols of A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N freedom and success in our country. Slaughter is WRONG and it must stop.NOW !

Posted by: Ramona Foxworth | July 26, 2006, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Here is a short video taken recently that shows what kinds of horses that are taken to the plants here in the United States.

Posted by: Julie | July 26, 2006, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Let it also be known that pregnant mares are also slaughtered. Their foals die from asphyxiation. Upon evisceration, the foal’s body is removed and its flesh sold as a meat delicacy; its hide is used in Europe as expensive status symbols. This is documented by a graphic video that shows an unborn dead foal, within its mother’s womb, when her belly is sliced open. The dead foal slides to the slaughter floor. The horses headed for the “knock box” are in plain view of their brethren that hang by one hind foot on a conveyor belt, already slain. This is what they see and smell as they approach their own death. Those of you who think horse slaughter is humane and acceptable, are guessing about what occurs in a horse slaughterhouse. You have not done your research. Enter “Mary Nash” in Google and view the videos. The American Veterinarian Medical Association does NOT classify horses as livestock; they are classified as companion animals. They have given their lives as warriors in battles throughout history, they have given their lives as racers, they helped settle the west, and carried Paul Revere, they are indispensible to the cowboy, they provide entertainment in competition and enable people to enjoy trail rides. Horses are also used in therapy programs for the physical handicapped and mentally disturbed. To inhumanely slaughter our horses is a gross betrayal for their loyalty to us when we have continual need of them.

Posted by: Dickson | July 26, 2006, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

To expand on the point of how horses are different then a cow or a pig, consider the funeral procession of ex-President Ronald Reagan two years ago. Mr. Reagan’s casket was borne by the Caisson Platoon, which includes the horse drawn caisson, following by a riderless black horse with a pair of boots turned backwards in the stirrups. The riderless black horse is meant to be symbolic of a fallen leader.
To those whom do not see the difference between a horse and a cow or a pig I pose this question: Would the Caisson Platoon have the same dignity if the caisson were drawn by cows and followed by a riderless pig?

Posted by: Duane Burright | July 26, 2006, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Something else to consider is that horses are not regulated or considered food animals.
I give my horses products very plainly labeled “NOT FOR USE ON ANIMALS RAISED FOR FOOD.” There are regulations prohibiting products such as Phenylbutazone and Zimectrin to cattle, swine or poultry. The reason is that meat tainted with these products can cause nasty long term side effects on human consumers, such as cancer.
As a horse owner, I’d like to be able to continue treating my horses with these products. If the horsemeat business is allowed to grow in the U.S., our horses could be subject to government regulations (it’s happening in the United Kingdon, the European Union forced the “horse passport scheme”, which horse owners PAY for, upon the Brits.)
I’d rather ban the slaughter of horses than have the government try to regulate them as a safe food source for the Europeans.

Posted by: Duane Burright | July 26, 2006, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

I don’t buy the whole “unwanted horses” rhetoric being spread by those in favor of keeping the horse slaughterhouses open.
Consider these facts:
In the 1990′s the number of U.S. horses slaughtered declined sharply. According to USDA records; 345,700 horses were slaughtered for export in 1990; ten years later in 2000 that number was 50,400.
Last year 7,100 horses were imported from Canada for slaughter in the U.S.
If the horse slaughterhouses are here to take care of an “unwanted horse problem”, why do they have to import from Canada??

Posted by: Duane Burright | July 26, 2006, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

WARNING: HORSE MAY BE HAZARDOUS
I don’t see how it can even be legal to slaughter horse for human consumption since they are not raised as food animals. As cattle, swine, and poultry farmers are aware, their livestock is heavily regulated as to what drugs/medicines they may be given.
Let me quote John Hanchette, author of “WARNING: HORSE MAY BE HAZARDOUS”
“Prime consumers of horsemeat — at $15 to $20 a pound — are the French and Japanese. They, and other consuming nations (Italy, Holland, Belgium, Switzerland, etc.), should be aware that much of the American horseflesh they are chowing down may be carcinogenic. The reason is a powerful pain-killing drug called phenylbutazone, or “bute” as it is commonly called from racetracks to ranches.
Phenylbutazone is a known carcinogen — an agent capable of causing cancer — as determined by the federal government’s National Toxicology Program.
Bute is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug that horsemen use for pain relief and fever-reducing purposes — treating muscular sprains and strains, muscle fatigue and overuse, tendonitis, and arthritis in their animals. Because it works directly on the inflamed tissue and allows the horse a free range of motion without pain, it is immensely popular for use by horse owners.
Here is what the Federal Register (a publication of important government rules and regulations) has to say about a recent “final ruling” by the Food and Drug Administration on this substance:
“For animals, phenylbutazone is currently approved only for oral and injectable use in dogs and horses. Use in horses is limited to use in horses not intended for food. There are currently no approved uses of phenylbutazone in food-producing animals.”
“The FDA does not consider that horses are ‘food animals’ per their e-mail communications to me,” relates Mizrahi. “When questioned about the fact that horses are slaughtered and the meat exported, the FDA simply defers that question to the USDA (the Department of Agriculture). However, the USDA has no guidelines to follow for what is considered ‘safe’ levels of toxins in horsemeat.”
And yet, the FDA is so concerned about the adverse powers of phenylbutazone that only two years ago it came out with an order prohibiting “extralabel” — or over-dosage use — of bute in young female dairy cattle, which also routinely are given the potent medicine by dairy farmers.. That’s right, these are the same cows that produce the milk that you make your kids drink.
The FDA issued the order in May of 2003 for female dairy cattle 20 months of age or older (read that milk-producing) “based on the evidence” that too much bute in these cows “will likely cause an adverse event in humans.”
n addition to bute, Mizrahi observed, horses also routinely receive Clenbuterol, Ivermectin, fluphanazine, fluoxetine, methylprednisone, dipyrone, gentamycin sulfate, ketoprofen, Regumate, Lasix, and other medicines that contain proscriptions against use in human food products.
“Just about every non-food substance that is applied, injected, or given to horses,” she points out, “contains a warning on its label that the product is ‘Not for use in animals intended for human consumption.’”
In the United States, no horse is raised for human consumption. Americans do not eat horses and do not medicate them as such.
I challenge the foreign horse slaughter houses to prove that US horse meat is not tainted. Unlike cattle, horses are aquired from many locations, not in one herd from a know seller like cattle are, so EVERY horse would have to be tested to prove negative for these medications. This is not being done.
Furthermore, I would also challenge the horse associations that are pro-horse slaughter to consider this drug issue. If they had to give up these important horse medicines, jeopardizing our healthy US horse population to comply with safe meat standards for foreign countries alone, how quickly would they change their stance? In an instant.

Posted by: Lori Hackman | July 27, 2006, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Anyone who has taken the time to research this issue can say with out a doubt this is an absolute horror and a crime. Horses are not killed instantly they are much of the time dismembered alive. What about that is humane? I have been to the feedlots I have seen the trucks. I purchased a young full of life little QH filly that was destined to make that trip. She is now a loving companion to my grandson. She learned to trust again so freely even after spending days at a pit they call a feedlot.
These spiritual grand creatures who will give their all for a human deserve to have their owners held responsible for their time here on earth. When there is an easy out people will take it, if it’s not offered then people think twice. Slaughter is an easy out for the irresponsible horse owner. With out slaughter as an option people will have to make a better informed decision prior to taking a horse in to their lives. A horse is one of Gods most perfect creations, how we can allow them to be tortured with horrid conditions at feedlots and criminal rides in over crowded trucks then to be killed so someone in Europe can eat their meat is just so WRONG. What kind of society do we live in that finds this an acceptable practice. It must be banned!

Posted by: Geraldine Rohlman | July 27, 2006, 5:28 am 5:28 am

As someone who has rescued a couple of those used up, older, starved equines that by some political opinions have nothing more to offer mankind, I must disagree. My two wonderful new mules have offered myself, my family and friends much in their mere presence in our lives. If they never spend another day working they still have brought much to our lives in whatever natural time they have left on this earth. I sincerely wish that some of those voting on this issue will look at the facts of these issues and not the $$$ factors.

Posted by: nim | July 27, 2006, 10:09 am 10:09 am

I love horses just as much as any of you do. I’m just saying its better to find some sort of use for the surplus other than just euthanizing them. Talk about money that doesn’t need to be spent.
Also, you say this country was built on the backs of horses. You must have forgotten what people ate in the 18th century. They sure as hell were not eating steaks, pork chops, and leg of lamb. Maybe all you PETA advocates should also look at trying to halt rodeo as you may also think that is cruel to the horses.
Think on both sides of the issue. You say stop the slaughter, then I suppose you should ready yourself to take in all of the 100,000 horses every year that are slaughtered. I can already picture it – malnutritioned, skin-and-bone horses taking bullets in their heads in some far off pasture in texas, new mexico, etc. because these “rescue centers” don’t have the capacity to handle them.
Rebutt me all you want, you can’t change my opinion. Sorry for thinking practically, my apologies to you all.

Posted by: Grant Thompson | July 27, 2006, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Horse slaughter in the US is neither needed or wanted!
Senate Resolution 452, December 13, 2004. The National Day of the horse. ‘To encourage the people of the United States to be mindful of the contribution of horses to the economy, history, and character of the United States.
‘I wanna run free’ brand new song for the US horses by Maria Daines!!!
Let’s all sing and tap a toe for the horses!!!
Pamela Bertsch

Posted by: Pamela Bertsch | July 27, 2006, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

I grew up with Trigger, Silver, and all the others. I dreamed of riding fast, hair blowing in the wind, riding in the river, lieing down on my horse and looking at the sun, plucking apples from the trees atop my horse, these dreams came true.
Winston Churchill said ” There is never a wasted hour in the saddle “. People who are not horse people can never understand the importance of the horse, only people like myself and others who’s lives were saved by the kindness, and love of the horse can know.

Posted by: Dee Wilson | July 27, 2006, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

I wonder how many of the horses that are slaughtered are STOLEN horses. This is an easy way for theives to make money quickly. Many of the horses had loving homes & are missed. What if it were cats & dogs being stolen & slaughtered? It is a shame that so many humans have a taste for any flesh in the first place. I know of several people that would love to have some of these so called surplus horses. It is not like the government owns them anyway. So stop making excuses that the horses would starve to death or would cost taxpayers money. It is a well knon fact that horses can make it back in a natural setting better than any other domestic animal. Mustangs are decendants from domestic Spanish horses turned loose in America & they have done just fine…..

Posted by: Pam | July 27, 2006, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

First of all, killing horses IS different than killing other “food” animals!Horses are not just left in the pasture with others and not interacted with. They save our lives as children and offer a great partnership throughout our lives! Cows, pigs, sheep, etc are not in close relationship with their owners on a daily basis. We LOVE our horses. Second, for the #6 post, how dare you write that this cause is unimportant and does not deserve your time-HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!! Your opinion is a slimey, low-life opinion! You go follow a horse’s life from day one until the day he enters a slaughterhouse, and YOU go swing the sledgehammer with the bolt on the end of it if it’s no big deal!
Furthermore, I am a horse trainer and a breeder and believe me- there are plenty of things to do with unwanted horses!! Its an outright LIE to say that suddenly the country will be over-run with unwanted horses! That is the biggest joke I have ever heard, having been in the business for over 25 years, and clearly those people don’t realize how fast any horse lover would adopt an unwanted horse- in fact, sometimes people will outright scramble to go get an unwanted horse! Most horses that end up in slaughteryards- I know because I have rescued one heck of a lot of them from those places- are horses that the owners have been lazy with and decide to auction them off as a lazy way to get rid of them without having to advertise them as “for sale”. There are alot of super nice horses that end up there because of irresponsible lazy owners!! Some of the best riding horses we have found were found there! I just missed a daughter of “Abdullah”, the 4 time Olympic Gold Medal jumper, by about 5 hours that was sent to slaughter because her pathetic owner didn’t want to spend the time/money advertising her! An Abdullah daughter- perfectly healthy and in great condition- easily a $12,000 mare- killed for meat for $600!!!! And Fernando- a Kentucky Derby Winner who gave his whole heart to his trainers and owners- he did more than they asked of him- he did the ultimate for them, and in return, they slaughtered him- its insane! The people who don’t know the difference between meat animals and horses need to shut up and crawl back under their rocks!! Horse slaughter has to stop, and the surplus of unwanted horses is a pathetic lie! If horses could not be slaughtered, it would simply force the owners to take out a classified ad and post them as free or for sale- its that simple-believe me! The horse would have a hom in a matter of days. Its that simple and all auctions offer is a lazy way to “dump” you animal for irresponsible owners. Is that what we are catering to here- lazy, irresponsible owners? Are we saying- “yeah, you lazy slobs that are too pathetic to take out a $6 classified ad for your horse deserve to have a place to dump your horses.” ? I think not!!

Posted by: Rene' | July 27, 2006, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Grant – again your post is way off. We are not PETA members, PETA does not advocate ownership of horses. We are horse people. We don’t disagree that horse meat can be eaten, but the issue is SLAUGHTER. Again , I reiterate that slaughter is a cruel, frightful end to a horse’s life. A bullet to the head is a far kinder end than slaughter. Again, lets fight to slow breeding rather than having to deal with the effects of current numbers. That is the answer.

Posted by: janet | July 27, 2006, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

By the way to hear the new song by Maria Daines for the US horses you will need to go to her website. The site I wrote in my post was not posted.
maria-daines.com, then go to music then ‘I wanna run free’. Radio edit.
Thank you!
Pamela Bertsch —

Posted by: Pamela Bertsch | July 27, 2006, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

I must also add that the AVMA also approves of foie gras. Foie Gras is that liver pate that is made by force feeding ducks till they can’t walk and when they put the tube down their throats to force in the food it tears their throats over and over. They think that’s ok too. Everyone needs to take a good look at the AVMA. They aren’t what they appear to be!
Pamela Bertsch

Posted by: Pamela Bertsch | July 27, 2006, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

I just wanted to chime in here a bit….
#1. Yes it is true that horses “being herd animals” are smelling/hearing/seeing the horror in these *#@*&%$ foreign owned meat plants and most certainly KNOW what is happening.
I can only imagine the terror they must feel as they watch/smell and listen while in line to be next & wait their turn to be killed to feed some foreigners in Europe & Japan before they get to the “bolt’ so to speak, and this is not an opinion it is a FACT. Having studied horses for all of my 42 yrs I do know a bit of what I speak of here!
#2. These horses are MOST def. NOT all the “sway backed nags” someone here mentioned , etc.
I have witnessed first hand the beautiful horses who sit at the kill plants, and I saw more young, healthy, sound horses than not.
#3. This must be stopped. I will never give up the fight, for I have loved horses from the day I was born-literally!
Lastly, I place alot of blame on the AQHA & APHA horse associations for such massive over breeding in the past couple of decades.
That is a ONE huge part of the overall problem here….I wish these 2 assoc’s would stop the overbreeding, but that doesnt seem to be happening!
If you breed at all…
Be a responsible breeder plz, plz!!
Please consider/rem. that there are sooo many awesome horse out there to be had & who are desp. need of good/forever homes, to be bought for little to nothing at local auctions etc. so why keep breeding more??????
I just dont get it!
I guess thats because I am not driven by the almighty buck huh?
And Im mad as hell that so many people have their heads in the sand, or where da sun dont shine re: this issue.
Its becoming similar to the massive cat/dog overpopulation probs we have had for years now,with millions being euthanized annually just here is the USA due to not enough homes!
I dont want to see this happen with our horses!
Of course Im NOT all about the all mighty dollar so I fight for what Im passionate about.
I own a beautiful 15 yr. old Arabian gelding, who saved my life-literally, and he is my best friend, trail partner and so so much more! I do not think I would be writing to you now if not for my Montana, he gave me my life back after so many years of being sick & just wishing to die.
I hope that someone can get some honest perspective from my post, if not..I always have to try!
****For the animals!****

Posted by: Jill Anderson | July 27, 2006, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

To say that other animals are not in close contact with their owners on a daily basis is untrue. If you were a member of 4-H or FFA, or even attended fairs to exhibit in open shows, you would see how close owners get with their beloved animals. Its no different, I work with my animals everyday to make sure they will be their best on show day. These animals become our friends and we hate to see them go but we have learned to accept it so maybe you should also.
And since when is just the horse a “herd” animal, through simple observation you will see that almost every livestock animal travels in some sort of pack.
I hate to break it to you, but those points have no meaning to me because of this. I am also horse trainer like many of you here. I break, ride, and rodeo and I understand the surplus of these horses and thats why I think this is something that is sometimes neccessary.

Posted by: Grant Thompson | July 27, 2006, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

So Grant, do you feel the same about dogs and cats? Is slaughter sometimes necessary for them too? Should we get in business with the Asians as well?
Here in the US we must keep with certain standards. Horses, dogs and cats our the top three companion animals. We must watch what lines we allow to be crossed.
If we keep going in this direction then I guess just slaughter everything? What a beautiful country this would be!
Pamela Bertsch

Posted by: Pamela Bertsch | July 27, 2006, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Grant —
Have you ever been to a horse auction? I have and the skinny neglected horses aren’t wanted by the killer buyers. They buy the beautiful ones with a lot of meat on their bones.
Pamela Bertsch

Posted by: Pamela Bertsch | July 27, 2006, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Hi Grant,
you seem to have spent alot of time nit picking my post apart lol!
I didnt say anywhere that I can find re:
“other animals are not in close contact with their owners on a daily basis is untrue. If you were a member of 4-H or FFA, or even attended fairs to exhibit in open shows, you would see how close owners get with their beloved animals.”
I WAS in 4-h, I DID rodeo, and sure nuff showed in Western Pleasure/Equitaion & Trail classes for years as well and now am training horses for others.
SOOOOO I guess Im not sure where you got the impression that I “dont see how close owners get to their animals?” or anything like it.
what are you talking about anyway!???
Did you even READ my post???
roflmao
Also, I just cant figure out where you get the impression that I said only horses are “herd” animals…
I said: ” Yes it is true that horses “being herd animals” are smelling/hearing/seeing the horror in these *#@*&%$ foreign owned meat plants and most certainly KNOW what is happening.”
So go have yourself a nice pat on the back now…for you have proven yourself to be either illiterate or just plain stupid.
I never said any of the things you so proudly chastised me on, but hey …wtf! Lmao:)
You have a great eve!
And thanks alot for the honest perspective, thats what I asked for..just cant seem to find where/why you said the things you did-but oh well!
:)
Jill

Posted by: Jill Anderson | July 28, 2006, 1:41 am 1:41 am

Lots of horse slaughter information can be found at
kaufmanzoning. net/horsemeat
It seems as if Mr. Goodlatte has his way, he would like to turn American horses into the next red meat.

Posted by: Julie | July 28, 2006, 1:46 am 1:46 am

About the difference in showing food animals, the only reason people show food animals is to get a better price for their meat! Somebody showing a steer, pig, etc, breeds them for meat, shows them to improve the price for their meat, etc. The entire focus is on meat and meat prices. Never once have I met a horse breeder/trainer/showman/lover that was in the business to get a good price for the MEAT on his horse- that’s like comparing apples and oranges- there just is no similarity other than they are both have 4 legs. The horsemen are into horses because they love horses, not the slaughter prices they get for their horses. Having been a horseman all my life, I have never been “into” food animals also. They aren’t the same thing. Food animals are just that- food animals and I have never been interested in them at all. We are talking about horsemen here, not meat farmers. There is just no comparison and to say there is shows that you are not really a true horseman and horse lover, because to those of us that love horses, we know we love everything about them- the smell, the beauty, the fun, the partnership, the adventures, everything. Again, like I said, never once have I met a horseman who raised horses for meat-it just isn’t what horses and horsemen are about. There is such a vast difference it isn’t even comparable. To a non-horseperson- I could see the cause of confusion in thinking its just an animal- all animals are the same, but the truth of the matter is that those people really don’t know what they are talking about and might as well go talk to a tree because what they say to us horsemen is that they are CLUELESS! Congressmen/women included!

Posted by: Rene | July 28, 2006, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Grant – If you are a horse trainer of any merit – I would eat my hat. First, you would know that if we stopped breeding today, there would not be a horse shortage in this country, you would now that through vet and nutritional improvements, horses are living healthy and productive lives well into their thirties today. You would also know that 15 year old horses are still very vital and competing and winning in show rings all over the country. You would also be aware of the ongoing theft of horses to be sold into slaughter. You sir show a great deal of ignorance in this issue and YOUR argument holds absolutely no water. In fact, I doubt that you have ever even been to a rodeo – or you would very much understand the difference between horses and other hoofstock. Perhaps you should raise a lamb and see how that goes and how you bond with that animal.

Posted by: Janet | July 28, 2006, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Mixed Emotions.
Death is part of life.
Fast & Fearful OR Slow & Painful?
Not all horses are sound or manageable.
Who will take care of all the unwanted horses if they do away with the slaughter houses?
Where will they bury all of them?
Who will pay for it?
People who haven’t owned a horse don’t know the expense it can be.
I don’t like slaughter houses, but I don’t like prisons either.
Not everything about breathing is rosey and peaceful.

Posted by: KammeO | July 28, 2006, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

“He says that the horses slaughtered at the plants are low-value horses from auctions that are unwanted because of bad temperaments, poor physical attributes or bad behavior.”
Seems to me that Richard Koehler and his company, Beltex, are “low value” because of their “bad behavior”.

Posted by: Doug Gemmell | July 28, 2006, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

I can’t believe all the whining snivelling “women” out there. A horse is just an animal. It is not human, and if the Europeans want to eat them, then I say “more power to them!”. Let the market place do its job and the rest of you whiners get one for yourselves.

Posted by: Jeff C. | July 28, 2006, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Please folks let’s stick to the facts. Name calling and other offcolor remarks aren’t helping anyone decide the issue. If you disagree, simply state why without any other commentary.
Not all people or organizations that are opposed to slaughter are not “women”. There are a large number of men, large corporations and others involved in the issue on both sides. Those opposing slaughter come from all walks of life, all genders, all ages and all socio-economic groups.
First, the USDA has on its website a survey that shows that the captive bolt gun is a stunning device that renders the animal unconcious and that death must come from “bleeding out”. During a recent survey, the USDA vets noted many animals not being “processed” (read having their throats slit) quickly enough and that the animals regain conciousness and that this violated the Humane Slaughter Act of 1978. They also noted that the animals were not provided proper food and water at the plants, also a direct violation of the Act. Yet these businesses still operate. The AVMA and AAEP bow to the pressure of agribusiness and always have, this is why they support slaughter and call the bolt gun a “humane euthanasia device”.
In 2002 one of the plants wrote a hot check to a local governmental agency. It didn’t make the check good until 2004 and only after they negotiated a reduced tax break. Do the average citizens get such treatment? NO, their property would have been seized and sold at auction. In 2005, one of the plants reported a $12m profit, yet paid on $5.00 in taxes to the local government, as well as owing several thousands in citations for violations. The third plant pays its violations weekly as part of doing business, but do nothing to correct the violations that are damaging the environment.
There have been several cases where owners have had their stolen animals killed at slaughter plants. Even more who have lost their animals through fraud. This causes insurance rates on horses to rise considerably. Horse owners across the country suffer for this.
Abuse and neglect of horses have decreased in areas where slaughter is banned. Horse theft also decreases. Theft in Texas is the highest in the country and this is where two of the plants are located.
When you take responsibility for a living being you are responsible for its care. That is the case if you buy a houseplant, dog, cat, bird or goldfish. You should feed it, water it and provide it with the care it needs. It is irresponsible to palm off your problems to another. If your pitbull is running at large biting children, you should take it to the vet and have it put down. If your horses has behavior problems that cannot be corrected (and most of the top trainers claim to be able to overcome all behavior problems) put it down. Don’t send it to a sale where a child can buy it, and this is just as much a possibility as slaughter when you send it to auction. It is your responsibility and should be the responsibility of the industry not the government. We wouldn’t have the pet overpopulation we do if dog and cat owners assumed their proper responsibility. We cannot let the horse industry escape their either.
I run a rescue and welcome the end of slaughter. I doubt I see more animals at my rescue than I do now. By the way, I am not overcrowded nor am I anywhere near capacity.
I also own a few horses personally that were on their way to slaughter. None of them were over 3 years old and all are healthy and wonderful animals.
The meat is tainted as stated above posts. The plants and businesses are poor corporate neighbors and taxpayers. The treatment is inhumane. They regularly process animals illegally, i.e. stolen horses and protected mustangs. I have researched the facts and I have made up my mind. Nobody can change it. I expect that if your mind is made up on the other side my words won’t change yours either. But, this is posted for you. It is posted for those searching for the truth or their own opinion.

Posted by: Shelley S. | July 28, 2006, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

A horse is not just an animal.
I have 4 horses that was about to go to slaughter. They are great and our best friends. They have feelings just like we do. I can when they are happy and not. I’m sure they are some that need to go but i also see good one go. The way they go is not good for the horses.

Posted by: M Hannah | July 28, 2006, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

what about cows they have feelings to but hamburgers taste good.

Posted by: Jason | July 29, 2006, 8:33 am 8:33 am

I am completely against horse slaughter for all the same reasons listed here by others who have done their research and have read about the actual events leading up to a horse’s death in a slaughterhouse. The way these companion animals are being treated is heartbreaking, disrespectful and too often torturous.
However, I believe the problem’s roots go much deeper. Go to some of the wild mustang sites and continue to dig–you will find the numbers, the research, and the bigger questions: Why are these horses being auctioned to begin with? Where are all these ‘surplus’ horses at (mostly Bureau of Land Management) auctions coming from? Bonnie Beaver has not done her research. There is no good reason we need to “create facilities that could house an additional 10 times that number of horses every year.”
America has much more than a black eye. This issue is just the surface—and the American people in general are not aware! But horse slaughter is the current topic on this webpage, so I will go no further along that thread after having said that there is more to find out.
The actions in the recent past were honorable, but were only a start in supporting the original Wild Horse Annie Bill of 1959. Simply removing government money from USDA inspections is not enough. Slaughterhouses have plenty enough to get their way around that–or simply pay for it themselves. Those supporting their closures have been defeated on this action, and not because they were in the minority.
There used to be more slaughterhouses–in California they have closed theirs down and collected data proving animal abuse cases are significantly lower, for example. The legal battles in Texas with the courts trying to close the slaughterhouses there have shed much light on that state’s opinion as well.
These slaughterhouse companies need to stay completely off American soil! We have a great history and legacy with the horse. Our country grew up on horseback–in those days the ‘wild west’ wasn’t just the very most western states, but pretty much anything past the Mississippi River. And horses remain honored and respected as pets, athletes, and ‘employees’. (There may be fewer working farms, but they remain with police forces and such.)
We are talking about banning slaughter for human consumption–very specifically. This is a major step and more acts and bills will be written as Americans hear more about this and take action.

Posted by: Deidre | August 1, 2006, 8:09 am 8:09 am

I am outraged that horses are being slaughtered, because it is against the will of the American people.
The practice of slaughtering horses is unlawful at both the Federal and State level, particularly in Texas where the bulk of horse slaughter takes place.
Those that claim a horse is “just an animal” are wrong, of course. These “practical” people are entitled to their opinion.
But 80% of Americans abhor the slaughter of horses. And this is America, God bless her, and this is a Democracy.
In India it is abhorrent to eat cows. Why not go explain to them the benefits of beef?
This is America, and we don’t slaughter horses here.

Posted by: Dan | August 2, 2006, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Only a person who has never been to the “killers” in Kaufman would argue for horse slaughter. It is a “no questions asked” kind of place. They don’t care where the horse comes from or from whom it was stolen. Everytime I went (looking for my stolen horse) I saw many beautiful horses in the pens with no outwardly visible signs of illness or injury. So please go on down and visit Dallas Crown like I did. I guarantee it will be a day not like any other you have ever experienced, an unforgettable day.
It will break your sad and cold, cold heart.

Posted by: Betsy | August 2, 2006, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Is there any record of where the horses that go to slaughter actually come from? I hear about overpopulation, etc. I don’t doubt it, but I wonder where any documentation might be or if the slaughter houses are required to keep any? I hear about the BLM horses being overpopulated and sold at slaughter. is there any truth to this generally speaking? Also I’m aware that the horse racing industry produces lots of horses and gets rid of most of them. I wonder if, like greyhound dogs, these “rejects” become surplus that make it to the slaugher houses? Thanks.

Posted by: Jenny | August 4, 2006, 2:09 am 2:09 am

Grant, with you I disagree wholeheartedly.
1. I wonder, if you were a horse, would you think differently of this treatment?
2. GRANT, I KNOW YOU MUST, INSIDE SOMEWHERE, BE A GOOD PERSON. PLS JUST THINK OF ALL THE SUFFERING YOUR ATTITUDES ARE CREATING.
3. GRANT, YOU ARE CONDONING A GREEDY, SELFISH, NEEDLESS VIOLENCE ON AN ANIMAL THAT YOU YOURSELF LOVE. PRACTICAL OR NOT, IT IS WRONG. JUST LIKE SLAVERY WAS WRONG, IT WAS PROFITABLE BUT IT WAS WRONG. WE ALL SEE THAT NOW. SOON WE WILL SEE THIS AS WRONG TOO.

Posted by: raelene mercer | August 23, 2006, 2:29 am 2:29 am

If I have this right, we are allowing foreigners to come here and take advantage of our money and our animals. We get nothing. Shame on us for allowing this.

Posted by: Mary Remondini | September 4, 2006, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Every doctor who prescribes Premarin, and every woman who takes it, contributes to the horse oversupply problem. I don’t know to what extent, but any at all is unacceptable. Put up with the “power surges” in the name of humanity toward innocent animals. Overbreeding–whether terrorists, cats, dogs, or horses–is the root cause of the world’s most endemic problems today. We could spay and neuter our problems away in 25 years.

Posted by: Kitty Corbett | September 5, 2006, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Picture this: a nice piece of land for sale.
Picture this: a realtor is handling the sale of this property.
Picture this: we don’t ask the buyer what he plans on doing with this property.
Picture this: it’s none of our business.
Picture this: the new owner calls in builders to build certain buildings for him.
Picture this: the builder does not ask the owner what the purpose of these buildings are.
Picture this: it’s none of his
business either.
Picture this: the owner hires personel to purchase horses at
auctions.
Picture this: the new employee asks what is the perpose of these
purchases.
Picture this: he’s told for export of the horse meat.
Picture this: the employee can ask why are you selling horse meat for export.
Picture this: the owner says it’s none of your business, do you want the job or not.
Picture this: the employee can either take the job or not.
Picture this: the owner can ask why won’t you take the job.
Picture this: the job applicant says, it’s none of your business.
Picture this: yes the horse has been a vital part of mankind ever since time began. yes it is a most magnificent animal.
Picture this: this country was built on free enterprise.
Picture this: why cant we get on with the real and important issues in this world.
Picture this: why does it seem that we are great at finding other less important issues to fill our small minds with, rather than ban together for the more important and real issues on this earth. hunger, war, too many that have too much…too many have nothing, that hang on to a tin cup just to drink water from.
Picture this: Let’s think more of what you as a person can do, and just do it. Rather than find all sorts of issues to complain about.
Picture that!!

Posted by: open_ur_eyes | September 6, 2006, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

O come on: what is the difference between sending a horse to the slaughterhouse and sending a cow to the slaughterhouse? The both are shipped exactly the same and killed by exctly the same procedure. Yet we don’t say a word about the “welfare” of cows. Is this outcry simply our intolerance of eating horsemeat as a society?

Posted by: Mike | September 6, 2006, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

“The horses that go through these slaughter houses are not any that have “good lives ahead of them” as Vivienne put it. These are horses that are 15+ years old and have backs in the shape of a horse shoe.”
THINK AGAIN PEOPLE! The people who eat horsemeat want the young stock and that is what they get. If you do not believe me, go to Columbia Basin Equine Rescue and see what is listed there. These are YOUNG horses (some as young as a few months old) They are waiting for the truck to take them to the locked USDA facility and then to get transported to slaughter. These horses are bought at auctions by people who sometimes LIE to the owners and say they are going to give them a good home. I won’t even mention how many stolen horses (kids pets) that are sent as well because it is GOOD business.

Posted by: Linda | September 6, 2006, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

If it is OK to kill cattle with a bolt gun – why not horses as well? If it is inhumane for one, should be for both.

Posted by: Bobbimo | September 6, 2006, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

i dunno, it just seems wrong to kill horses. maybe its just me

Posted by: Disgusted | September 6, 2006, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

If the public could see the video from inside a slaughterhouse for horses…they would vomit. Sometimes it takes 3 hits with the bolt gun to kill them. Some are still alive when they are strung up by one leg and have their throats slit. Horses are bred and raised as pets..not food! Save the horses!!!!!!!

Posted by: Loretta | September 6, 2006, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Having lived in Europe, I don’t see what the problem is. Cow meat, pig meat, chicken meat, horse meat…what’s the difference? If people want to eat horse meat, then what’s the issue? The rest of you should mind your own business and eat whatever you want to eat.

Posted by: Stephen | September 6, 2006, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

As a professional in the horse industy and and individual that makes a living educating people about horses I find it irresponsible of those who’s opinions are formed based on emotion and not experience to have opposition to this issue. The reality in this world is that there are far more useless and dangerous horses than there are people CAPABLE of taking care of them and realistically domestic horses CANNOT take care of themselves… talk to the people at the BLM, even the mustangs won’t accept these animals and it is an injustice to the good horses in our industry to deny them good homes because these dangerous/infirmed/injured animals are taking up the space. If you are a horse owner, be responsible. If you don’t want your horse to go to slaughter take the effort to screen possible homes for your animal through private sales. If you choose to take the easy way out and send your horse to an auction expect that slaughter dealers may be there. It is a choice the PERSON makes that allows these horses to be available to killer buyers. It is rediculous to take this RESOURCE away from the industry because individuals want an easy way out from under there horse.

Posted by: anie mac | September 7, 2006, 1:15 am 1:15 am

I find it interesting that the debate here centers primarily on what “other people” should do with their horses. Horses are personal property. They are raised for a number of reasons, and yes, profit is one of them. That shouldn’t come as a surprise, since other animals, pets as well as livestock, are raised with profit in mind.
No one is required to send their animals to slaughter. In fact, every owner has the option of euthanising their animal – whether that animal is old and diseased or young and healthy. They also have the option of not feeding them, of neglecting them, of turning them over to a rescue group, etc. So in effect, support of the ban on slaughter is asking Congress to take away a right associated with the ownership of personal property (yes, I said a right, and this one is a well established principal of law). In general, personal property rights have monetary value, and depriving a person of a property right usually involves compensation.
Just “releasing them into the wild”, as one person suggested, is not practical, either from the standpoint of the carrying capacity of various public lands, or the ability of every animal to adapt to that kind of surroundings.
Unwanted pets are euthanised every day in voluminous quantities. Most of these are small animals, whose carcasses can be readily disposed of. Disposal of horses, in contrast, is not as easy. Most states have laws governing the burial of large animals on private property. So where exactly does a euthanised horse wind up? In my area it winds up in cold storage waiting for the rendering truck, along with other livestock.
The eventual reality is that there is an ongoing need for disposal of unwanted animals, small or large. Slaughter is one viable option for horses that an owner may choose. Instead of banning the practice, I think this much energy would be better spent on making sure that the practices at slaughter facilities are swift and humane. A horse slaughtered and a horse euthanised are still equally dead. The primary debate seems to be on whether our emotions have been satisfied that the end came humanely.

Posted by: Fran | September 7, 2006, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

I am a horse owner, I love my horses, they will never be sold and if and when it becomes necessary will become pasture ornaments without a care in this world. But because I have lived in Europe, and have eaten horse meat I wish we weren’t sending all of it overseas, it’s very good, I like it. That said, I feel that the slaughter business in general needs to clean up it’s act. There’s not reason at all that any animal, be it horse, cow, chicken, rabbit, whatever, should end it’s life terrified. I’ve seen cattle haulers stuck in traffic for hours in the broiling sun, do you think those animals are given water, nope. As an industry, the slaughter business is poor, maybe legistation would better served making the whole industy better than trying to decide what animal deserves better treatment. BTW, my sister is a USDA meat inspector, has inspected chickens, turkeys, beef, pork, and lamb, I do know that the killing isn’t always done painlessly.

Posted by: Afubar | September 7, 2006, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

So… just because a horse’s qualities aren’t exactly desirable, we can call it “low value” and send it to slaughter? Well shoot, let’s round up our kids with ADHD, cystic fibrosis, down syndrome, and any other number of disabilities and diseases and send them to slaughter as well. Think that sounds cruel? It’s what Mr. Koehler seems to think about disadvantaged lives.

Posted by: Palmer | September 7, 2006, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

If the kill is illegal then the Government(s) responsible need to be prosecuted for dereliction of duty and aiding a criminal act . Get on with it !!!

Posted by: George | September 8, 2006, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Things seem to be going backward-the slaughter of animals is just as primitive, disgusting and cruel as it was when Teddy Roosevelt through his breakfast sausages out of the White House window after reading the expose on slaughterhouse practices in his morning newspaper. I grieve that we have actually gone backward. Remember that children received their own protections after animal cruelty activists had laws enacted to protect animals. Here we are a centuary later and we ought to be ashamed at out inatention to their suffering.

Posted by: Margot Sullivan | September 10, 2006, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

People – this bill CANNOT pass or it will “kill” the entire horse industry in the United States. Like it or not, just like the cattle, sheep, and hog markets, horse prices are supported by horse meat prices. We need MORE horse slaughter facilities, not none. If we don’t have these facilities, these animals will have no where to go when they are ready to die or not manageable anymore. I own three horses and love them all dearly, but for them to have any value, the “unwanted” hard case, untrainable, dangerous, or very old and sick horses need to have some place to go that is of value – namely, the slaughter plant.

Posted by: Jenny | September 12, 2006, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

So what. Some body is killing horses to eat. There are a lot of bad reasons to kill animals, for food is not one of them.
Which is better:
Killing a horse because you are hungry.
OR
Killing a horse because it broke its leg while running a race you made it run so that it could win you money.
I think America needs to get of its High Horse and realise that there is nothing more wrong with eating horses than eating cows.

Posted by: Matthew | October 4, 2006, 9:18 am 9:18 am

You save a horse from slaughter you think you can fix and you cant then what’ you kill it.I think thats cruel,When all along its still in the same spot DEAD,I own and raise horses,If one was to ever goes lame and had to be put down,I myself have the right to get money out of it not lose My money.You try to take that away and what is FREE.NOTHING

Posted by: angela | October 8, 2006, 3:27 am 3:27 am

Ithink that the slaughter of unwanted horses is sick if the horses is health, but if the horses have broken legs that cant be restored then the horse should be shot instently then goin through pain.

Posted by: leanne bridson | October 18, 2006, 10:35 am 10:35 am

well i am a proud horse owner that has as grant had said a horse-shoe back but she is the best horse money could buy. when i went to buy her it was a choice between her and a 5 year old mare that looked like she just came back from a show but i picked the old horse that nobody wanted. she has won me places in the local rodeo. people ask all the time how old is she i tell them the truth. i dont care if shes 40 i still will not send her to a slaughter house. if yourone of those people that think that the horses dont know what has happened well you havent done your research the horse fights for their life till the end an when hung up to be beld then alot of times are fully aware of their surronding. the horse regains conciousness after 30 seconds. so now tell me if its a good idea….

Posted by: sasha | December 6, 2006, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

If any of you think that all, or even most, of the horses sold for slaughter are old, swaybacked nags, then you should do some research. 78% of slaughtered horses are healthy animals. Only 10% have severe health problems.
Also, I have heard that these are horses bred as livestock. This is also false. 25 to 30% of slaughtered horses were bred for the racing industry. 1986 Kentucky Derby winner Ferdinand was slaughtered, along with Hall of Fame horse Exceller.
These horses are transported for sometimes more than 24 hours without food or water in low-roofed vans made for cows and pigs. They are so cramped, many are trampled, and arrive severely crippled or dead.
When they are killed, the captive bolt gun used to stun them is often inaccurately shot, and the horses remain conscious through the entire process.
Does any of this sound humane to you?

Posted by: Lydia | January 17, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

I AM A DISABLED 42 YR OLD WHO HAD BRAIN SURGEY IN 2005 AUG., I AM NOT EMPLOYED AND I BUY HORSES THAT ARE ON THE WAY TO SLAUGHTER,THEY ARE WONDERFUL, GREATFUL AND BEAUTIFUL CREATURES THAT ARE MAJESTIC AND DESERVE EVERY CHANCE TO BE HAPPY AND HEALTHY AND FED AND CARED FOR AND LOVED DAILY, I WOULD HATE TO STAND BEFORE GOD AND HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY I DIDN’T DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO HELP!!!
SHAME ON THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT ANY ANIMAL SHOULD DIE THAT WAY!!!

Posted by: k johnson | January 29, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

Yes I know the last comment was almost a year ago but I want my 2 cents worth on this one!
Horse Trainer & Riding Instructor here. I just did some research on the U.S. human population and the U.S. horse population for the purpose of building a website to accept donations to create a larger Horse Rescue and Retirement Facility. There are approx. 6.9 million horses in the U.S., 1.9 million horse owners which averages out to 3.6 horses per owner. I disagree with the theory of over breeding I do NOT believe there is an over breeding problem. I believe there are a seriously dimmented bunch of jerks that have more money than they know what to do with and they use it to throw their weight in the Horse Industry. What I mean by this is the Breeders who have very lucritive farms have the “It’s not what you know, it’s WHO you know” attitude. They throw their weight with their money by being politically active and supporting their favorites or pulling strings in the “Who they know” dept. This is only ONE of the problems but it’s a BIG one.
I’ve worked on an Egyptian Arabian Breeding farm where I’ve met foreign heads of state, princes and kings and have watched these VERY things occur. Horses valued and sold for literally millions of dollars and given names that have political or subliminal political messages. The problem is NOT over breeding, especially in the quarter horse industry which is STILL trying to get the value up on the top quarter horses. The most recent National Winner was a filly that sold for $600,000. The world record sale price for a quarter horse to date.
No sirs and ma’ams, the problem is IN BREEDING and I’ll bet money that even Barbaro was a prime example. Horses are bred too closely because BREEDING FARMS have put SOOO much emphasis on pedigrees to get their horses sold at the highest price.
The IN BREEDING is problem because MORE often than not the foals that are born are LESS than show quality. 1 in 6 horses might be show quality or better than outstanding but the other 5 are less than show quality because of some fault. In the Egyptian Arabian show industry horses are less than show quality if the white markings on their legs go over the knees or hocks REGARDLESS of their confirmation!!! I’ve personally OWNED one!
Why was Barbaro a perfect example? What caused his leg to give way? Probably his breeding!!! When horses are bred so closely together (the lines mixed multiple times or breeding through the kissing cousin style) they develop problems that can be related to their genes, bone structure, circulation, respiratory function, brain function, etc. They may be small, unnoticable defects until something happens or they may be major faults. The extremely wealthy money making farms don’t make what they consider to be any money on a faulty horse and it gets “tossed” in some form or fashion.
I believe it’s right to question why horse slaughter and the slaughter of other animals is different, but I can tell you why it is. There is a bond that has been passed down for 4500 years from the earliest record of horse domination by humans in the Russian Steppes. The horse is a social animal with a higher intelligence than sheep. Sheep are stupid, even the Bible says so. Cows and goats are a little smarter than sheep but goats stink so no one cares. Cows provide milk and meat for us beef eaters and NONE of us meat eaters wants to eat rabbit food.
A broke down 20 year old, foundered, swayback horse that needs to be euthanized can cost the owner up to $200 to euthanize and dispose of. He’d RATHER make money killing the horse than spend it. NO horse deserves to be in the slaughter house because the lousy jerk that wants the horse dead needs to do his duty and humanely euthanize the beast! The owner that takes his horse to slaughter after he’s useless is a stupid jerk and here’s why. Six months or several years BEFORE the horse got ill or lame he could have sold the animal because he probaly was NOT using him anyway. BUT he did NOT sell the horse because he could NOT get what HE WANTED for the animal. So instead the idiot waits until the damage is irreversible and sells him for less than he would have gotten a few months earlier. That’s what’s STUPID!

Posted by: Shelly Cooper | May 27, 2007, 1:36 am 1:36 am

right off the bat I’m gonna say I AM OPPOSED TO HORSE SLAUGHTER!! therefore my question and thoughts to follow are in NO WAY meant to support it.. its meant to hopefully open some eyes.Now for those in support of horse slaughter to be shipped out.. I have one question for you and a comparison as well.
WOULD YOU BE ALRIGHT IF YOUR CHILDREN, CAT, OR DOG WAS BEING SLAUGHTERED FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION IN ANOTHER COUNTRY?
if you say yes to that then you should be right there in the cell next to Jeffery Domer ( sp? sorry dont pay attention to cannibalistic peoples names much)
Now as for my comparison.. i know those that are in favor of this aren’t looking at the MAJOR down side and seem to be into economics.. soooo, With the outsourcing of US jobs you get mad about that ( of course just about every full blooded American does ).. well the money made from the unethical slaughtering of horses ( as the ONLY 3 existing horse meat plant in the USA are FOREIGN OWNED – thats right NOT American owned, but owned by someone who is NOT a US citizen ) s shipped OUT of the us and in NO WAY benefits the US Economy. Now how do ya like that? Personally i don’t.. and either way.. I don’t think its ethical or humane to put a perfectly good horse down.. I have been to a Cow slaughter house.. it took me YEARS to want to eat cow again after seeing the WHOLE process ( which is the SAME process used on horses AND I HAVE SEEN THAT TOO SO DONT GO GETTING IN A HUFF) I STILL wont eat chicken and if it weren’t for growing up on a lake and fishing nearly everyday, I probably wouldn’t eat fish either.. However, I eat fish and just recently ( within the last year) started eating cow again.One thing i will NEVER EVER do is eat horse meat.. I cant look at an animal that I WITNESSED HEAL HANDICAPPED AND MENTALLY INCAPACITATED CHILDREN AND ADULTS and think ” hey i think im going to try horse meat today” I dont eat at Chinese restaurants because they kill cats in this country and in their own and eat them.. and if i do.. i get egg drop soup and shrimp fried rice ( same thing every time) anyways back on point.. you cant compare a horse with a cow.. i have raised both and personally, horses are more sociable, intelligent, and become a part of ones family.. like ever other protester to this cause.. I will say this.. GO WATCH THE BUTCHERING PROCESS AND THEN SAY YOU STILL SUPPORT IT..
btw.. New advancs are that most of Europe is now banning horsemeat except Italy whom now has to “furbish” thier own horse meat because other countries are no longer shipping to them. I read that somewhere.. Anyways for my fellow horse lovers, Slowly but surely it will be banished.
and one last thing.. Tell these big horse racing farms to stop breeding massive amounts of horses.. Same with majority of Texas and their beloved Quarter Horses ( which BTW are the #1 slaughtered breed of horse.. Thoroughbreds come in second on that list)..Lastly.. those that have never been to a livestock auction.. especially the horse ones, I urge you to go for the experience.. Go back in the pens and whatnot and look at the horses, how they are kept, how they look, Look THEM in the eyes and you will see what the equine industry sees, their pain and their sadness. they know its coming. Lastly.. Read Black Beauty again, perhaps that will help you understand what a horse feels when they are neglected or abused, and when they are shipped to the auction that could potentially end their life.It was never “just a book” Ana Sewell was right on point with it.

Posted by: it_needs_to_stop | September 6, 2007, 4:46 am 4:46 am

This is utterly creepy. The way all slaughter houses work is eerie and wrong. Animal consumption in the past was not a cycle of chemicals, torture, feces ridden cages, mass production.
They hunted, and as for horses…they were cars back then that allowed us to explore and steal the country that were cherished in a world without vehicles.
I personally am vegan, so this highly offends me that they’ve added another animal to the slaughter list.

Posted by: Bryan | October 26, 2007, 2:01 am 2:01 am

This is downright nasty! Seriously the people actually against the ban maybe should walk along side a horse that is about ready to be killed from the moment they walk onto the trailer untill the bolt gun is done. Then let them tell us how humane this is!
Horses are an American treasure. I doubt there are very many people who would actually be for the killing of these precious animals.
I own many horses of my own and never could imagine any of them going thru the kill pens like many horses already do. All of those horses have had previous owners and i bet they would be heart broken to know there beloved pet has died such a cruel death! The only people that could possibly put there horses thru these factories must be cold and heartless!
I understand there are many horses that are unfit for showing purposes and some have very rotten attitudes but none of them deserve such an inhumane, cold hearted death that these kill plants give them.

Posted by: Angie | December 20, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am

that is just horrible no animal should be put down for money or for meat thay do so much for us and that is how we repay them that is just sad

Posted by: horseest | January 6, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

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