Instant Messages Obtained by ABC News Cast Doubt on Claims from Foley’s Lawyer

Mark Foley is not a gay man, he is a pedophile. Homosexual men have relationships with men not boys.
In vino veritas, in wine is truth.
Under the influence of alcohol people often will do things that in a sober state they have thought about….

I Know Barney Frank and Foley is no Barney Frank

Mark Foley is a Disgrace to public servants everywhere. I am in a public servant, I am in the Military. What he did distained himself. Thank God Congress, are President, and Florida wants something done. May God Continue to Bless this great nation

It is unlikely that someone goes fishing for 5 or 6 years (that we know of) and never catches a fish. All of his IM’s are trying to get an underage person to meet him for sex. He must have been successful at least a few times, or he would not have continued. I think we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. I also believe that this may be a common practice and that is why they are covering it up. I don’t think it was only him. There is much much more to this story, and it is going to be the biggest scandal we have seen in a long long time.

The 21st century “Get out of jail free card”: “I’m a Gay American molested by a priest…oh yeah a Catholic priest”

HE SHOULD GO TO jail. I THINK HE IS USING THE CHURCH THING TO SAY THIS IS WHY I DID IT. SHAM ON HIM. I DON,T THINK HE WAS EVER WITH A PRIST!!!!!!

First the alcohol, now the clergry…Seems like the man will place the blame anywhere but where it belongs….on himself! What happened to taking responsibility for your own actions?

Just because he is a big shot with money, he is no better than anyone else that does the same thing but goes to prison for it. I am sure money will pay his way out, probaly our tax money. That sliming dog.

What I want to know is, would everyone be as upset if this were a young GIRL? Although that would be as bad as this is, I somehow think that because it was a young BOY this is getting more coverage. This is so sad because this guy is a monster and should be put away. For him to “blame” alcohol and claim to have been molested as a youngster is even sicker.

Gee, of course Mark Foley is not lying to the public when he claims to be a molested alcoholic who never had improper physical contact with a minor. Why should we doubt him? All his other lies certainly don’t illustrate a pattern? Of course, based upon Foley’s claims, we should feel sorry for him, because he is obviously a victim here in claiming he is the only one who was ever molested.
No wonder the GOP leadership ignored the red flags and is blaming the Democrats for this scandal. Not accepting responsibility for anything seems to be one of the “core values” nowadays for Republican. Sick.

any more excuses? so let me get this straight he’s an alcohlic sexually abused gay man. why can’t people be accountable for their own actions and not blame it on real problems and a way of life. one thing’s for sure he is totally sick in the head! and he needs more than a slap on the wrist!

How convient for there to have been a pedophile priest in Foley’s background that he can use as an excuse for being a dispicable human being! How clever of him to tell us of his alchohol problems and to sign into “rehab” and have this come out at such a convient time. I’m sorry, I don’t buy it either. The man is a perv and a typical politician – voting for legislation that would make internet contact with minors a crime – while committing that same crime as he goes along. If you ask me – the republicans are going to cover this up, like they cover up everything else that happens under their watch AND I AM A REPUBLICAN! I’m ashamed of my affiliation, and more ashamed that people KNEW this was occuring a year ago, and let it go on and on.

What’s important to remember is that we can only make judgements about what we KNOW not how we choose to connect the dots. The guy clearly was into lascivious with chatting young boys, and we can make a judgement about that. But, so far, there is nothing other than a reference to San Diego that indicates it went any farther than that. So all those who choose not to connect just existing dots, but imaginary or hypothetical dots as well, are doing not Foley but justice a disservice. Maybe the guy got off talking naughty on the net but didn’t take it further–who knows . . . we certaintly don’t. And while there is certainly something perverse about nasty messages, there’s a huge gulf between that and real life behavior. Let’s judge this guy by what we KNOW he’s done, and hold off condemning for what he MAY HAVE done until we get facts there.
If those same facts show that the people in charge of things on the hill knew what this guy was up to and looked the other way–which again is still not certain–then they should be slammed hard as well.

I find it wierd that he already has a cival atty.Is more comming?????

This is a joke. I agree with the previous comment… this seems to reinforce the belief that all gay men are pedophiles and/or were abused as kids. Foley is not a gay man. He is a pedophile, he is an adult who sought to be involved with an underage boy. A pedophile, just like a man who seeks to be involved with an underage girl. Alcoholism and previous abuse are just cheap excuses. He lied to our faces a few days ago… how can he expect people to believe THIS?

gee, what a nerve — so now He Is a Victim? ‘been a bad boy because he was molested by a priest’? – I don’t believe it for a second!

Mark Foley’s situation is identical to the scores of Roman Catholic priests who are arrested developmentally and emotionally. These pedophiles prey on the goodness and innocencce of youth, then manipulate them for sexual control. The young page said it all…”sick, sick, sick”. But the Republicans who were there to protect the pages preferred not to listen to him be in denial rather than jeopardize their power and control.
Lock ‘im up!

How many times, people, how many times? Let’s all say it together one more time, “The moral majority is neither.”

I’m just glad to know that Republicans do have sex no matter if it’s gay or straight. I th0ought they didn’t. However, this scum is a perverted pedofile. Pedofile is the key word here. He used his office to abuse children — 16 year olds are children. Even republicans knwo that.

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire! I think someone will come out of the woodwork eventually and tell of their inappropriate sexual relationship with Foley. Foley is a predator and didn’t just develop an attraction to boys within the last few years. To think that he only satisifed his sexual urges with instant messages and e-mails would be niave. Foley knows those he abused and knows that if they come forward to tell their story then he is definetly going to jail. This is a man who is desperate and I wouldn’t be surprised if pressure has already been put to those he abused to keep quiet.

ABC news still have not revealed how they have verified that the AIM chat transcripts are valid. Nor do they make a distinction between chat transcripts and the email that was sent by the former Congressman. I have called Brian Ross’ office several times and no one in his office will comment on how they verified the chat transmissions.
Let me explain for those that don’t understand the difference. All emails have a digital signature that can be traced back to the sender. These transcripts from the AIM chats are mere text files that can be manipulated.
If all ABC NEWS has are these “chat logs” then it is basically a he said, he said thing.
As a user of AIM for nearly 10 years I have saved chat logs all total of 2 times. I know no one that saves chats files so I question the validity of the 52 chat transcripts.

I’m absolutely sick of this adminstration and all the harm they have caused this country. But, I’m just a middle class working single mom trying just to live a good life and teach my kids right from wrong. Paying bills, living paycheck to paycheck, is easy compared to trying to teach kids what’s right, wrong, moral or immoral when you see the leaders we have had as examples in our country.

Thank you ASurvivorInUtah. As you will know, one of the things that is really showing up in the Foley scandal is the extent to which the culture of enabling is alive and well. I was a victim of the priest Tolkien, son of J.R.Tolkien of Lord of the Rings fame. He too had the power of money and the Catholic Church to which he was giving $mmm form the inheritance from his father. Power and money continue to weave a screen around these criminals. In the case of my abuser, his prosecution was put off again and again until he eventually died without even being brought to court. The sick paradox is that all those children who paid money for the books and the movie unknowingly funded his escape from punishment. Hundreds of his victims were terrified ever to come forward because of the campaign of his lawyers and the Cathilic Church. Seem like deja vu all over again except this time in the Church of Congress. Meanwhile, I am in my third year of therapy at 60+ years old with a broken life behind me. And like you it wouldn’t occur to me to abuse children.

If the chat transcripts were not authentic … do you think Foley would have resigned? Wouldn’t he, instead, be standing on any soapbox he could find and loudly professing his innocence? His actions are the actions of one who knows he committed a grievous malefaction.

ASurvivorInUtah: No one has challenged the validity of the chats. Sure they are somewhat questionable, but Foley would not have resigned if at least the general tone was true. I imagine he is not so much a coward that he would resign instantly over fabricated AIM messages.
BTW, I log ALL instant message conversations. Most clients do this by checking a box, many by default. A 17 year old kid would know this, since it’s a primary means of communication and they often want to go back and read what people said. This would especially be true if you were chatting with a Representative.

Isn’t it hilarious that a political party that is constantly railing against the gay community, gay marriage, sex before marriage etc etc has a loon like this in its ranks, chasing after a 16 year old boy. What a bunch of hypocrites. I wonder how many of the twisted morons are as deeply troubled as Foley.

Amberlynne – I can’t answer that, I know what I would do but I have never met, or for that matter even heard of this guy before Friday. It certainly doesn’t look good for him, I would just like ABC News to have all their facts in line and disclose how and when they found this information.
I still believe that the law of the land is that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Considering how in recent years the mainstream media has reported inaccurate news stories near election day I am slightly skeptical. It would be nice that someone would do their homework once in awhile, but the mainstream media is just lazy and we the viewers are suppose accept what they report without questioning them.

Jay, are you being naive or just displaying some kind of blind loyalty? You actually believe that
a man in such position of power and authority will simply resign and walk away without as little as demand for a proof if these transcripts were fabricated by ABC?
Come on wake up to reality and stop trying to make yourself into some kind of computer geek who knows everything.

When are we going to wake up to the fact that this is just another case of lies and cover ups by the Republican Congress who would sell their mothers to stay in power. May all the lies and deceit be answered by the American people on Election Day 2006.

As a user of AIM for nearly 10 years I have saved chat logs all total of 2 times. I know no one that saves chats files so I question the validity of the 52 chat transcripts.
That’s the problem. You’re a user, Not an admin. Perhaps you aren’t aware that your chat sessions can be logged on the server without your knowledge.
He isn’t denying it because he knows they are legit. Do you really think he would have resigned over a few suggestive emails? Not a chance.
Is it just a bit ironic that the laws he sponsored are the ones he violated and can be prosecuted under?

Mr. Foley has admitted his guilt by his words and his actions. A full accounting of the unsavory facts is necessary to put this matter to rest. Even if 16 is the age of consent in DC I doubt very strongly that families are particularly interested in sending their kids to Congress to be preyed on by people who hold power over these children by age and position. We’re talking about a 54-year old male and a sixteen-year old boy, remember? Give him his day in court and let’s see what ensues.
Now the second question is whether Mr. Hastert or others shielded him from exposure. That would be criminal too.

What I find hilarious about this whole thing is that Foley’s actions are only illegal because of legislation he himself pushed through congress, criminalizing online what is legal in person. What an idiot. He deserves whatever he gets, for pushing irrational and indefensible laws.

Brian Ross and team keep up the god work and find out how much the republican party knew of these perversions and when.If Hastert,Boehner,Reynolds,Alexander and Shimkus knew of the nature of his stalking 5 years or 5 months ago and kept silent,then they should all resign.

Let Hillary be the special prosecutor. She knows how to get to the bottom of giant right-wing conspiracies.

Shame on anyone who is a legislator, or priest, or parent, or anyone who says he or she is protecting children and then preying on them. This is a sad case, and I can only hope someone pays for this. The so-called leadership in the House and Senate should merely dissolve into thin air with this disgusting, unseemly mess.
Shame on Hastert and company.

Thank you Amberlynn you are absolutely right ! Yes, why would he resign if it wasn’t true or if he wasn’t caught red handed so to speak. By that I mean he knew the jig was up because he knew investigators would seize his PC and examine the hard drive. And YES, Jay you are probably right in your 2nd comment. We won’t know how Ross got the information until his investigative reporting on this is over but then he might not want to reveal his source. Remember Ross just asked Foley some questions when the guy up and resigned not knowing 100% if the transcripts were in fact from Foley. Looks like he got his answer.

For those who see no problem with this issue, or try to blame the victim, I’m sure also saw no problem with the Lewinsky affair, or blamed her.
A 52 year old man having sexual relations with a 16 yr old boy is not normal, let alone a 52 yr old politician with a 16 yr old under his ‘care’. Let’s look at this situation for what it is, a sick act by a sick person. It was wrong for the President to have sex with Lewonsky, it’s wrong for a congressman to have sexual relations with a page. Let’s not cloud our judgement based on our political point of view.

He’s not a pedofil. A pedofil goes after prepubescent youths. 16-year old males able to live away from home are not children, but young adults. While this whole matter does have a strong yuck factor, it’s not about a pedofile.

I just want to know, what gives Foley any more rights than any one else.?
I was molested several times as a younger person, should that be okay for me to molest some one because I was? does that make me gay? personally it makes me physically ill to even think about it! I would never do that to another human being.
questioning your sexuality is one thing, but actually going after a child, someome under the age of 18 just because it happened to you does not give you a right to do the same. If it was any one else, they would be in prison.
It is wrong, plane and simple!
He should not expect any special treatment just because of what has happened in his past! he knew it was wrong, but he continued to do it! it happened to him, he should know how it feels!
Foley should be put in jail, and the others who knew about it should also be put in jail for covering it up, no matter who they are!
This is a disgrace, and I think that these people are the reason why there are so many laws are being held back!
they all should be blocked out of any government office! and should be put in jail.

There is a lot of difference between being gay and a phedofile. 99.99% of all gay people does not interact with young boys sexually.
/anders

{Chapter 117, 18 U.S.C. 2422(b)} forbids the use of the United States Postal Service or other interstate or foreign means of communication, such as telephone calls or use of the internet, to persuade or entice a minor (defined as under 18 throughout chapter) to be involved in a criminal sexual act. The act has to be illegal under state or federal law to be charged with a crime under 2422(b), and can even be applied to situations where both parties are within the same state, but uses an instant messenger program whose servers are in another state.[3]

1. AIM automatically logs conversations by default. Didn’t you all know this? Such a silly, small thing, but something that might well be the key to this entire mess.
2. I am a Republican from KY and I cannot fathom the hypocrisy that is taking place at all levels of our government now. I expected GWB to at least come out and demand an investigation and speak about it… but he’s done almost nothing!! WHY?!
3. Foley is guilty as sin. The events surrounding the information surfacing make that very, very clear. He did molest at least 1 teenager, maybe more. Hastert did know about, if not the details, then the substance of all this, and did nothing. Why?

Republicans are nothing but hypocrites.
I don’t think I could possibly trust a republican again inmy lifetime.
they preach a holier then thou lifestyle, and then we find out they are just disgusting liars who are more horrible then the rest.

Foley’s gay. Big deal. A 16 year old? TALK ABOUT “CUT & RUN”! Liars, cheats and self centered folk are Republicans. Can honestly say, will vote straight Democrat ticket for years to come.

If the average American citizen had gotten pegged for doing this, the government would put them under the jail. Just because he is in politics does not give him the right to be soliciting young boys. As a matter a fact, it does not give him the right to solicit ANYONE! As a political figure (especially one that fought for crimes against children) there is a morals clause that comes with any job. Apparently his morals do not flow with the majority of United States citizens. Foley needs to “get a life”, quit blaming the alcohol (if that is the case then everyone that has a drink is a pedophile), and stand up and take his punishment like a “real man”. Being gay has nothing to do with this situation at all. It all comes down to moral turpitude which of which he apparently does not have.

If possible I would like to say to Mr. Foley, because you claim to have alcohol problems doesn’t excuse your behavior. Not all alcoholics are pedofiles. Yes Mr. Foley that is right you are a pedofile. Haven’t you watched NBC’S special to catch a predator. You fit the pattern. Of course they all stated they didn’t do anything wrong. It appears to be very easy for you to blame alcohol and that fact the you now reveal you were molested as a child ( would you have revealed this info if you haven’t gotten caught)? I sincerely doubt it. I myself was molested as a child, but I realized that as an adult I no longer can blame my past for the actions that I do as an adult. Your current behavior and the fact that you blame your past for your current problems gives all victims a bad name. Not all victims who were molested go on and molest others. It appears as though you have jumped on the victim band wagon as a way to explain you troubles. Shame on you and shame on anyone in congress who knew what you were doing. You and anyone with knowledge of what you were doing should be relieved of office. You all should be men enough to step down because you failed at your positions. You were given responsibility to lead and teach our youth. But you in turn decide use our childern for our own perverted ideas. Mr Foley your behavior disgusts me.

Now I know why pedophillia, child molestations, and Internet stalking of kids are at an all time high. People (mostly men) are actually trying to defend this perv Foley! Do you all remember a story earlier this year of a kid that posed nude on his webcam at a very early age to grown men for money. He testified on the Hill and gave them names, phone numbers and credit card numbers to THOUSANDS of men. Only ONE was arrested. When it comes to sex, men think anything goes. One blogger even cited the age of consent is 16!! SO WHAT?!?!? This kid’s parents sent him to DC for a unique opportunity (esp. for white kids), not to meet some perverted, disgusting Congressman. Do we really care about our children? Dont blame ABC, dont blame the kid. Foley is a gay, pedophile. PERIOD! And the Republicans didnt care. PERIOD!

What is really sad is that the GOP leadership knew of this issue and did nothing about it; enabling this man to go about his business instead of getting any kind of help. What would be really refreshing would be for someone to admit responsibility instead of having to hear the spin on this from now until election day

There is no god.
And leave the poor guy alone.

1) Someone many posts above talked about homosexuals needing to get back in the closet. Now, I’m heterosexual. Should I get in the closet, too? I mean, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander!
2) People are hypocrites, not democrats or republicans. Make your argument based on logic and fact, not emotion. If one does a careful reading of history, it’s pretty much a 50-50 split along party lines as to whom breaks the most laws and tries to wiggle their way out of it.
3) The law is the law. You mess with a person, male or female, under the age of consent, you’re guilty.

How low can this fellow sink? After he is caught, he comes out with all sort of his “victimization” – “I was abused by a priest”, “I am an alcoholic”, “I send the messages when I was under the influence of alcohol.” Does he expect us to feel sorry for him? And what is up with Mr. Hastert blaming the incident on the Democrats? When are these Republicans going to take responsibility for their own deeds?

As a gay man and recovering alcoholic I am outraged that this twisted little man is now dodging responsibility for his sleazy behavior by claiming to be an alcoholic, a gay man and having been molested by a clergyman. I am also outraged that the Republican leadership swept this under the rug for years. At least when Bill Clinton engaged in inappropriate sexual behavior it was with an adult. Where are all our “leaders” in Congress now? Why wasn’t something done when this first came to light? I hope that America will wake up and smell the pig’s swill and realize that the Republican Party cares only for power and does not care what kind of filth they elect to office. I hope that Americans will also realize that this man is a pedophile. Gay men have sexual relations with other men not underage boys. Of course the “moral majority” and Christian right wing would have you believe otherwise to impose their morals, or lack thereof on the whole nation. Wake up America and turn this sleazy immoral bunch out of OUR government!

Such a glowing example of that “Family Value” “Moral Majority” propaganda the Republican party claims to embrace. Whether Foley is criminally liable or not, as a Floridian, I’d like to see him REIMBURSE the state for every dime he made while “working” (trolling for young men) in Congress!
The same self-righteous Republicans who have hidden the behaviors of Delay, Foley and others (we may never know how many offenders) are the same folks who screamed “impeachment” of Clinton because he engaged in an extra-marital affair with an ADULT. Please! The Republicans historically have attempted to cover up more immoral, illegal, and downright criminal incidents — Foley is just the latest.
This election, for the first time in my life, my vote will be cast not necessary “for” a candidate as much as AGAINST anyone who has the audacity to say they stand for morality and family values and therefore are a Republican. HA!

This swing voter is going to “cut and run.” This stuff just turns my stomach. I think we should create the “Cut and Run” club. How fast and far can we get away from this stuff.
Anyone care to join me???

Sexual Harassment
Sexual harassment is a special type of gender discrimination. It can be defined broadly as any kind of intentional sexual behavior on the part of any supervisor or employee that is unwelcome to some other(s) in the workplace. Sexual harassment can embrace unwelcome verbal behavior, whether negative or not (e.g. requests for sex, “come-ons” and propositions, derogatory sexual comments, and even crude or “dirty” jokes if told under the right circumstances).
Sexual harassment may also occur by visual methods (e.g. pictures of naked men or women, sexually suggestive pictures, posters, signs, cartoons, drawing, etc.) And sexual harassment may come in the guise of some sort of unwelcome physical behavior or unwelcome acts such as kissing, grabbing, touching, brushing against, or even leering.
Sexual harassment can be committed by an owner, a supervisor, managers, lead persons, forepersons, co-workers, subservient employees, and, in certain circumstances, even from customers.
Sexual harassment is a violation of State and Federal Civil Rights Acts. SO,WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY GENERALS OF THE US AND FLORIDA WAITING FOR?

The same party that was going to bring ’family values’ back to this country has caused more damage and grief to this countries families. Both in the form of this lie of a war as well as this Foley scandel. I am sure this is just the tip of the iceberg with this nasty administration, and I am sure more info will come out as the days pass. I was sick that the GOP stole both elections, and watched as this country backed a moron named G. W. Bush. I am counting the days until this joke of an administration is gone and we can begin repairing the damage they have caused. Foley is a liar and a coward who is using child abuse and alcholism as a shield to hide behind. Nothing new from a desperate administration that is full of power-trippers, liars and sickos.

What angers me most about this entire situation is that if Foley was a regular Joe he would have already been put in front of a judge sentenced accordingly and and been boldly marked as a sex offender!But because he is a public figure this is called a scandal, rather than a crime! Now he tries to claim he was an abused alterboy? That is a sick cop out. Along with a pedophile chage he should als be charged with corruption of a minor…anybody else would be for telling a child they were going to liquer them up! It’s sad to think but likely probable he will get off with a slap on the wrist. Sick Sad world we live in.

Obviously, what he did was awful. However, I think trying to blaim Republicans is distasteful as well. A political affiliation does not make a person morally right or wrong. Those choices are made by the person. There have been plenty of troubled times in America that can be placed at the door of democratics and republicans alike. This is about one man and his actions. I think people should focus on that.

Here is the solution for our government officals to do a job for us, not to be babysitters to interns, pagers and so on, these kids should remain in school and learn like everyone else and go into the working world when it is time stop dangling the carrots in front of the rabbits, do the job you’re getting paid and I am getting charged by taxing me for without distractions of minors who have no business there in the first place and move on, enough is enough. This country really needs to wake up we have so many problems that need attention at to be focusing on waht Mayors, Senators, Governors and so on that have so much time on there hands as to text mussage, fool around play games is a scary thing no wonder palnes go into buildings we are turning into a lauging stock to other countries, and while all this goes on little girls are bing gunned down execution style, what nooone else can see this is a problem!! Kathryn in Connecticut

I cannot believe the mealy-mouthed slime balls who are trying to defend Foley with silliness like “innocent until proven guilty”. He ADMITTED inappropriate emails, and resigned because he knew what else was likely to come out. He has proven his guilt himself by admitting it. Of course, he sprinkled his admission with self-serving lies (e.g. molested as a teen himself, never offered liquor to underage people, never actually had sex with any pages, etc.) But those lies are now being debunked one by one. Closet perverts are often the one’s who scream loudest about the evils of child abuse. And here we go again with Foley! By the way, quit already with the stupid excuse that in DC the age of consent is 16. Irrelevant. Many of these communications happened when he was in Florida and both Federal law & Florida law are specific about sending sexual come-ons and sexually explicit messages to anyone under the age of 18. He was soliciting 16 year old kids. And as a Mom of a 16 year old kid, he is lucky he didn’t mess with my kid because I would immediately go the the FBI and if they didn’t act, to the media to out this pedophile. (And by the way, he isn’t a homosexual. He is a pedophile. Two different things entirely). The parents of the kid in Louisiana were very wrong to ask that his pursuit of their underaged son not be pursued. Now they are partly responsible for the kids he molested between then and now.

He should have been set up by Dateline NBC’s “To Catch a Predator”. He is a very sick person. Does he have children?

Ahh, the lawyer is just trying to establish mitigating factors, and continue to deny the deniable. His job is to minimize the amount of criminal punishment Foley could face.

My Grandmother always said ‘The bigger the cross, the bigger the whore.’ Rep. Foley is certainly proving this to be true! I have always believed that many of those who talk the loudest about morals have the most to hide. They almost never live up to what they are preaching. By virtue of the fact that the Republicans have run as our ‘moral conscience’ in past elections, they are now held to a higher standard – and have failed miserably! Give me Clinton with his female and legal-aged extra-marital sex any day. He didn’t do anything that most of our previous presidents and lawmakers didn’t do. And a majority of us too for that matter, according to published polls.

It’s interesting, isn’t it, that this “Do Nothing” Congress can’t address securing this nations Mexican border; can’t nail lobbyists on the Hill: can’t demand that there be some resolution to the slaughter of American troops in the Middle East; allows the rights of detainees and citizens, as well as the Constitution to be shredded by the leaders of their own government; and, now, covering for a smarmy degenerate House-member, with a voracious appetite for teen-aged boys! Since Congress gets nothing done for the nation, often fails to answer correspondence from constituents, yet has, apparently, loads of time for “sex-chat”, they all need to be “booted”, and without delay! To retain them in office is to ENABLE their arrogance, and ensure the steady decline of this country.

Just has troubling is the news of Mr. Foley is how both Democrats and Republicans continue to use this awful situation as political leverage to benefit themselves. Any elected official that speaks of this in any political tone is just as bad as Foley.Just for a moment the political gloves need to come off and both parties should unite in purging their halls of anyone that could have protected these children but chose not to, especially for political gain, both Republican or Democrat. Let’s protect our children without politics!

Mark is a predator.Any one who kept that a secret is the same as mark.The voters trust those guys.The republicans are talking about family value at the same time there are abusing little boy.There are more coming out soon wait and see.

Mark is a predator.Any one who kept that a secret is the same as mark.The voters trust those guys.The republicans are talking about family value at the same time there are abusing little boy.There are more coming out soon wait and see.

Here’s what I think. This man is in a position of power and is asking us all to allow him to make important decisions about the way we live in America. I don’t care who he goes to bed with, I have absolutely no problem with gay American’s what I do have a problem with is that someone in the position to affect my daily life with his voting choses to not stand up like a man and say: Hey that’s what I like, I did it and I knew what I was doing was not going to be looked on favorably by most people but that’s what I did. All of us have sad stories to tell but that is not the definition of who we chose to be. You make choices, stand up for the choice you made, don’t run and hide. You demean those folks who have been molested and have reached inside themselves and decided that was not going to be the one moment that made them who they were. I don’t want anyone leading me who can’t stand up to their beliefs, gay or not.

Things that are irrelevant:
The fact that Foley is
1) Gay
2) A former victim of abuse
3) An alcoholic
4) A republican
Things that ARE relevant:
1) He clearly has an addiction to SEX
2) His addiction was so out of control that he jeopordized his career
3) He used his position of power to proposition sex from people that worked there (sexual harrassment, not pedophilia exactly)

It’s really a shame that an election can’t be won on a persons’ merit instead of all this behind the scene scheming!
The republican Party is the KING of such mudraking and blowing out of proportion of anything a democrat does.
Finally-The Republican’s are getting a dose of their own medicine. Even better, it’s for Real stuff that EVERYONE (except foley’s cohorts) agrees to be wrong. All this and Bill Clinton calling journalist on their facts! I’m so glad the Dems are getting some Backbone and fighting fire with fire. Keep up the good work boys!

I thought all the people who were molested in life ended up on the rag bag of history. I don’t believe Foley was molested. But in the unlikely chance he was, it did not seem to affect anything he did during his life having been elected to Congress over and over.
Is he saying the alleged molestation made him gay? I never heard that line before. Why is the molestation relevent to the situation? Oh, I get it, he did not become gay because he was molested; he just got attracted to boys because he was molested as a boy. Sorry, don’t buy it. Also don’t buy Foley is gay. If he were, there are plenty of gay men around DC for him to deal with. Why just the boys? What Foley is is sick, plainly sick.

I grew up in a house of alcholics, where I was sexually abused and raped and beaten, I didn’t become a phedophile, an alcholic, msss murderer, or bank robber. I got married had kids raised them, worked since I was fifteen and have twelve grandkids now. I’m sick and tired of these people when they get caught doing something they know is immoral, illegal or both then all of the sudden low and behold their an alcholic, gay phedophile, who was abused. OH PLEEEZZZZZZE! All of these guys in government need to get the boot from the top down. Our country has been ruined, our economy is in the toilet, our brightest and best are being killed daily in Iraq and Afghanistan and we have these so called Morally, Religious, right wing individuals trying to hit on kids, give them booze and worse. And what did the OVERSIGHT committe do, same thing it’s done with Bush, give him a big kiss and a wink and say, now don’t you do that again! These fat cat rich, morally corrupt individuals should all be thrown out.Grannysue

Along with the other facts of this situation, it was an abuse of power.

Foley’s a liar. He’s using alcoholism as a cop out and “being gay” as both a cop out and as a way to give truly gay people a black eye. He is a sexual deviant. Being gay doesn’t necessarily make you a deviant, just as being a deviant doesn’t make you gay. Gay men have sex with age apropriate men, they don’t molest children. Perverts molest children, This guy is pervert that abused his power, plain and simple. He and Hastert need to go to jail for a very long time with all the other deviants and perverts. I bet if you dig hard enough you’ll find that Hastert behaved inappropriately with these young boys as well, hence the attempted cover-up. Foley likely ruined some young kids lives and he’s looking for the easy way out. Lock the SOB up and throw away the key!!

Why didn’t all of this come out BEFORE Bush was re-elected? He might not be serving a second humiliating term.

Valarie,
He was messaging these “boys”. They don’t have to read the messages. No one has proven that he has done anything physical with any of these “boys”. Their parents didn’t send their “boys” there – the young men decided this was what they wanted.
If 16 is legal, get over it. He messaged these boys. wow!
Pedophils are proven sexual offender to children. No children were involved.
Regardless of our personal opinion that this is not “acceptable” behavior, legal is legal. Let’s wait for the proof of a real crime. If he did actually commit a crime – let’s cheer when the police arrest him.

I agree if the GOP leadership knew of this and did nothing they should also resign. According the FBI they knew of about the instant messages and the GOP leaders said they would handle it. As for Mr. Foley trying to blame this on his problem with alcoholism is a joke. So does this mean he was drunk while he was on the hill and during voting sessions.

as a democrat, i dont understand all the republican bashing, and deciding that everyone must have known about this… is there any proof that anyone knew about this besides those directly involved? i don’t know what my coworkers are doing, and they don’t know what i do — they don’t even know i’m typing this response.
obviously foley is disgusting and guilty (his actions — resigning, checking into rehab, saying he was abused as a child — show it). but the others, let’s not judge so soon. not all republicans are bad… just like the majority of gays are not pedophiles, and the majority of democrats do not sleep w/ their interns.
btw, to the republicans out there that say wait to see if he’s guilty… how are you not upset that somehow a gay man ran on your party’s ticket and got elected???

Being abused is NO excuse to abuse another person. Being an alcoholic is NO excuse to abuse another person. Foley is a sick man for what he did. The men and or women who covered up for him in any way are sick too. Both disgust me.

It is scary to think that the Herald & St. Pete Times, both papers tend to favor the right, kept this story under wraps. WE should all be grateful, our children should be grateful, for Brian Ross & ABC for bringing out this well-guarded secret. The question is whether these pages will be bought off to not admit that they had sexual contact in person. Are we supposed to believe that this guy drew the line at online contact only? Incidentally, how could he be sober in his duties, but drunk online with these kids? Doesn’t the revelation of the IMs during the pause in voting in 2003 take away that preposterous story? Was he drunk sending the IMs, but sobered up to go vote on government spending in Iraq?

I totally agree with the comment left by Christina Smyth…”Mark Foley is not a gay man, he is a pedophile. Homosexual men have relationships with men not boys”
I am tired of hearing that all gays are pedophiles. Watch Dateline and see how many Heterosexual men are pedophiles. Pedophiles come in all shapes, sizes, backgrounds. If Congress knew something about this a year ago, and did nothing then yes he should be in the hot seat and resign. If he were a democrat, the republicans would for sure hang him out to dry when they first heard of it. This does not surprise me at all coming from a right wing party.

The Democrats need to back-off and stop turning this issue into a Republican power-play. Denny Hastert would never have covered up something so sickening and disgraceful. He’s a brilliant man who would have understood the consequences if he chose that path.

I don’t blame Republicans. I don’t blame Democrats. I blame a 2 party system that gives us no viable options when both partys are liars and abuse their power…

This just showcases republican hypocrisy (do as I say and not as I do) and projection (most critical of behavior in other people that you are doing yourself). And what about “personal responsibility” that the republicans are always screaming about? So far, Foley has blamed alcohol, a clergyman for abusing him, and mental illness. I hope all the republicans are voted out in November!

I WAS ALSO SEXUALLY ABUSED WHEN I WAS A CHILD BUT I HAVE NOT NOR WILL I EVER SEXUALLY ABUSE ANY CHILD. I AM ‘NOT’ A GAY MAN! I AM A FATHER AND A HUSBAND. I HAVE OVERCOME BY THE GRADE OF GOD. NEVER HAE I EVER EXCUSED ANY IRRESPONSIBILITIES TO MY ABUSE. SHAME ON FOLEY.
I FIND IT REPULSIVE FOR ANYONE TO SAY THAT HE IS NOT A PEDOPHILE. HE IS SICK! HE IS DEMENTED! HE SHOULD CRIMINALLY CHARGED.
P.S. I ALSO DO ‘NOT’ DRINK ALCOHOL.

How our government representatives close their eyes when things like this go on is a mystery to me. Aren’t they working for us? Whose interests do they really represent?
I am so sick of all the corruption and graft that goes on in all aspects of business and government. No wonder we have so many deficits. Doesn’t anyone have ethics anymore? What about person responsibility?
This is not a Republican or Democratic issues but a humankind one.
These people need some shakin up some how. I wish I knew how.
Tena

Why is he being allowed the time to come up with a story? I say he can sober up in a jail cell. If this was any no-political person we would be doing just that. The shame he has brought upon every elected official and office. The to top that all off he it’s the Catholic churches fault.

We need to avoid, I believe, making any comparison between Barney Frank, a courageous American legislator, and Mark Foley. Mark Foley, unlike Mr. Frank, is hypocritical and untrustworthy. He may or may not be alcoholic. He deserves our prayers. Our scorn and blame, however, will only serve to keep others like him in sexual purgatory and perpetuate the kinds of behaviors that we wish did not occur.

Just another example of, do we Americans truly know who we are putting in office to lead this country.

People in positions of authority that abuse children should be punished. Our society has turned away from the harsh reality of abusing priests, boy scout leaders, police officers and member of governemnt. When Foley finishes rehab he should be prosecuted and sent to prison to send a clear message to abusers.
Blaming alcohol or prior abuse does not excuse his crimes.

I am a 29 year old female Republican from Portsmouth Virginia, and I am not only disgusted by what Mark Foley has done. But I am disgusted that Democrats seem to be pointing the finger at all Republicans. That is just stupid to do. He should be punished as any normal pedophile should be. Obviously he never let it be known to his party that he was into being perverse with little boys or he would not have gotten the position he did. Has this country gotten so one sided that no one is paying much attention to what he did? Instead the focus is being put on what party he belongs to. The political party he belongs to is the absolute least of his problems.

Mark Foley’s expanations (but not excuses) for his conduct are absurd. No one in Washington seems to be aware of any alcohol abuse. Granted, molestation as a child is traumatic. But are we to believe that his penchant for underage boys is related to this? So what if he’s gay? Normal gay men are no more prone to this behavior than straight men. Foley was in a position of power. Any personal, and certainly sexual, relationship he had with young boys is an abuse of this power. He’s a disgrace and guilty of violating the trust placed in him by the parents of the pages he hunted.

How long has Mr Ross “sat” on this story? I find it quite interesting that it comes out no less than a month before an election.

Lets face facts here. This will all
blow over much like the FBI raid
that turned up that money in the congressman’s office. Didn’t our congressmen vote that the search and seizure was unconstitutional? Makes you wonder who else has 80k saran wrapped in their office freezer. Does anybody even remember that?? Bush gave a 40 day cool down period and no-one has heard a thing about it since. Yes what Foley did was terrible but he ain’t the first and he won’t be the last. Look at how many senators are currently under indictment. Then when one gets caught the others crucify him to take wayward eyes off themselves.

Foley is giving people who are alcoholic and/or gay a bad rap. He is a MOLESTER and a PEDOPHILE! What else would you call someone who gets turned on by boys and exchanges sexually IMs with them?? He is sick. However, sicker are the people who ignored this to protect his seat and their party. C’mom – if you have such a powerful position like SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE – you know things… they chose to handle it “administratively” at the expense of the children.

In less than 10 years of Republican leadership we have gone from “I did not have sex with that woman” to ” I did not have sex with that boy”. America this is the contract you made.

Foley needs to be prosecuted. I know out there somewhere there is a young boy that he has molested, and I am hoping that he has enough courage and faith in himself to come forward so this does not happen to another.

If the Republicans would have made a big deal out of the situation the Democrats would have claimed sexual harrassment because Foley is gay.

I am a gay man in the U.S. and for this piece of trash to claim that he is a gay man is an insult to my intelligence and should be to everyone else. Gay men do not go after children those people are called pedophiles and are a disgrace to humanity. This man should have to serve a very long prison sentence as anyone else in the world would have to do that committed such a horrible act with a minor.

Thie guy is a grade A idiot. He cant admit clearly before any incident that he is an alcoholic and then on top of that he “fesses” up to being molested by a clergymen when he was younger. Is it not clear through critical thinking that he is a coward in all types of ways. Honestly if u have any brain, if u get molested then you have felt the pain, why in all the world would you want to go and cause the saem pain that hurt to you? ….THINK!.

When will it end?! “Blame the Party (repubs/dems)”, “blame the gays”, “Blame the church”! HOw about people taking responsibility of their own actions. Vote the person, not the party…now maybe the “Right” will see- there is no party that holds a “moral majority”.

This guy seriously needs to be locked up. It’s absolutely hilarious that he was in charge of anything to do with “protecting” children. Not.
For these people, the urges never go away. Like I said, for him, a long prison term is the only cure. Maybe then he’ll find out all about predation.

Even in political death, Foley is trying to galvanize the Conservative cause by subconciously equating homosexuality with pedophilia. Homosexuality (nor previous molestation, nor alcohol for that matter) is NO excuse for the psychiatric derangement and criminal action which is pedophilia. I write this as a straight man in support of all the gay people who have just been slapped across the face as a parting shot from “representative” Foley

It does not matter in the least that Foley may have been molested in his youth. Anyone that can read and has any functioning brain cells can come to the conclusion that this man is a pedophile AND a REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR COUNTRY! It sickens me that he has been allowed to continue in office and to date I know of no criminal charges against him! Any person off the streets would have been tossed into jail by now….I have a hard time understanding why he hasn’t been!

Foley is not gay. Hes using that as an excess. He is nothing more then a child pedophile.

Should the molestation that Mr. Foley suffered in the hands of a clergyman be true, he should take that as the most powerful example and NOT engage himself with minors. What was he trying to do? To avenge the past by using underage guys?

I’m 59. I was born and reared in a staunchly Republican county in KY, thus I grew up as a Republican sympathizer. At the age of 37, the scales fell from my eyes and I began to see the world and our country through Democratic eyes. I told you that to tell you this: I’ve been on both sides of the political fence, and I have been humiliated by individuals in both parties. I was pro-Nixon and stood by him throughout the Watergate mess — casting aside all commonsense. I was embarassed and betrayed by Reagan and the Iran-Contra scandal. As a Democrat, I suffered anger and disgust during Monicagate. With all the flap over Mark Foley’s transgressions, I am concerned that we Democrats are taking too much pleasure in this turn of events. We Dems have had our turn in the Hall of Shame, and we will have it again — just as Mark Foley will not be the last Republican to earn a seat of distinction therein. Let us not express too much self-righteous condemnation; that tack will come around to stick us. A little compassion is not altogether a bad idea, especially since we will soon enough find ourselves standing in the need of same. I choose not to express my opinion relative to Foley’s fate, there being no shortage of “opinion” on this specific subject.

I have a real problem with a number of conservatives who are now trying to link Democrats to the disgraceful Foley matter. It isn’t just that the Republican leadership in the house traded the welfare of teenagers for a safe seat in congress, now they are all singing from the talking points trying to suggest that Democrats and the media knew all about this and timed the release of this information to coincide with the election. Hello? Obviously, conservatives think the best defense is a strong offense, but the big problem is this: the evil muckrakers the Republicans are trying to sniff out are actually the young men who are victims. So to recap: Republican Leadership sweeps Foley under the rug, Victims reach out to media and firestorm erupts, More victims come out with their own stories and many are much worse than the initial emails, Republicans and Conservatives begin infighting, then decide to fight the people who caused them all these problems, the victims. Fox news even took the next step and labeled Foley a democrat. This is mudslinging on a whole new level, and I am disgusted. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised with the republicans since they did give us Abramoff, Delay, Ney, Cunningham, and Iraq.

A man molests young girls.
A man molests young boys.
A woman molests young girls.
A woman molests young boys.
All are perverted, straight or gay. All are protected. Shame on those of you who protect those adults instead of the kids they harm.

So, let me get this straight. Disgusting and reprehensible behaviour can be voided in Washington DC by closeting one self in a rehab clinic! How absurd! Alcoholic rehab clinics have become the mantra of sleezy politicians of both parties. I wonder what the cop who gave me a ticket for speeding would have to say, if my defense was, “Officer, I am an alcoholic and a pevert”.
It seems to me that we are reversing the Napoleonic Code by creating special laws and rules for our elected politicians, and then a common code for everyone else.
I say vote the bums out in November.

Mark Foley resigned last Friday. He’s old news. Who cares whether he’s gay or a drunk, or that he was molested? The only thing that matters now is that the people who let this stuff go on need to be held accountable. Before the full investigation is even underway, it seems Hastert and many more of his cronies in the leadership had reason to know something was afoul and totally failed to act accordingly.

Those of you who are trying to defend Foley by questioning whether the IMs were from him, please read the comments of Kirk Fordham, his former Chief of Staff, who said when ABC News called and said they had the Instant Messages, he went to Foley and told him, and asked if they could be from him; and Foley responded, “Yes, they probably are.” Foley has no defense and shame on him for trying to pass this off as a gay issue. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he is gay. I do not think Foley would have resigned if he could have found another way!

“Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”
Mark Twain

I didn’t read all the posts but I did NOT see anyone mention sexual abuse in the workplace. It is a federal offense to abuse anyone sexually in the workplace. That means if a manager or person of power seduces or sexually uses a worker via his office or position of power he can be prosecuted for sexual abuse. Foley obviously falls into this category even if the kid was over the 16 year age mark in the DC area. The age doesn’t matter. FOLEY CAN BE PROSECUTED for SEXUAL ABUSE IN THE WORKPLACE. He know it. His lawyer knows it. All the lawmakers (representatives) or officeholders in DC know it since most of them are lawyers also. His career is over and he now faces charges of sexual abuse if anyone will testify that Foley had “sex” with him. Foley is now on a downward spiral of fighting lawsuits against him from any kid that feels he was sexually abused. Now that his reputation is besmirked by this tale of horror in the press he is much more likely to lose a case against him. And oh yeah, he’s lost his powerful position too. It’s not over yet. He will be fighting this for years.

This just goes to show how deceptive and what liars republicans are. All they can do is brainwash the “stupid” American people about morals, when behind the scenes they have no morals and DO NOT practice what they preach! Sick, how sad for him and for Republicans who can still stand up and call themselves Republicans!

Typical conservative hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do. At least liberals are honest about their perversions. And to those who refer me to Jim McGreevey… homosexuality is not a perversion, pedophilia is.

Turns out it was a man and not a boy after all. Read some other news sources not just one you idiots.

“a man” Which one? All of them??

Hey Gary, do you say the same things about Dems when they get caught doing stuff like this or worse? Probably not…is it because the Dems don’t claim to have any morals?

Pierce said:
“To be a Congressional Page you must be 16 years old. To have consenual sex in DC you must be 16 years old. I see no laws broken and a lot allegations of wrong doing. Where is the proof? ”
Funny how when Clinton had consenting sex with a 25 year old intern, THEN it was an outrage…bad moral example. Now it’s just perfectly legal….My daughter is 17, and I would not in any way find moral justification if SHE were to be hit on by a 57 year old congressman.
The Kool-Aid drinkers in the Republican party, I am convinced, would condemn Jesus Christ Himself if he returned to challenge Republican power. So sad.

What’s disgusting (beyond the sheer creepiness of the matter at hand) is how the Dems are jumping all over this story as if party politics matter, and as if they have never been creepy, kiddie sex scandels within their party.

Oddly enough, this scandal comes out on the eve of an election. Life has taught me that coincidences do not exist. What are the odds that the Democrats knew about these appalling actions yet DID NOTHING until the time was most opportune.
Republican or Democrat it all boils down to these simple truths.
They don’t care about the welfare of the pages.
They care about being in power.

This is Monica all over again! Impeach the bast…. ah…. I must be confused…. No, I’m ABUSED!!! Its not MY fault!
Executive Branch Morons, Congressional Clowns… what next?…. a clueless, Layabout Electorate?
Lets get moving people! The Right Wing Republican Machine has ZERO credibilty. Lieberman Democrats are not far behind.
I blame the entire mess on Rick Santorum’s barber.

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What crime did Foley committ? Is chatting on-line a crime?
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yes. under the so-called “Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006″ (of which Foley was a co-sponsor), along with 18 U.S.C. 2251, discussion or solicitation of sexual acts between Foley and any “minor” under the age of 18 would appear to be a criminal offense (see Adam Walsh Act, Sec. 111(14) (“MINOR.–The term ‘minor’ means an individual who has not attained the age of 18 years”) and 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2256 (1) (“’minor’ means any person under the age of eighteen years”).
…., that in-person, actual sex between Foley and a 16-year-old page would be perfectly legal in D.C. and in most places in the U.S., but it seems that it is a criminal act for Foley to discuss or solicit sexual acts with the same page over the Internet.

After McGreevey and Foley and Studds and Frank, let us just not elect gays, right Brian Ross?

One excuse after another.
“I’m an alcoholic!”
“no wait, i’m gay!”
“no wait, i’m a victim of sex abuse!”
What a disgusting liar. The only people who could believe this tripe are people who have never heard of “alocholism,” “homosexuality”, or “abuse survivors,” and will believe those words and experiences can be connected to any behaviour at all. Maybe i’ll go rob a bank and then use these excuses… This man ought to become a monk because i dont see any other way for him to receive salvation after this.
About the saved IMs – even if you delete them, they remain on your computer in some capacity.

wasnt that mark foley, on dateline to catch a predator. sad

The GOP has harbored a pedofile who preyed on children….shame shame shame.

MARK FOLEY IS NOT A PEDOFILE.
He is a pervert and a possible child moleser and it is good that he is gone. Pedophilia is the desire for pre-pubescent children. It is a completely separate deviancy. Please be correct in your comments so that correct punishment can be made. Being a ‘legal’ minor or child is different from being sexually undeveloped.

So many people keep saying it is the Democrats who are pointing fingers…
I watched the news channels for several hours last night and didn’t see ONE SINGLE Democrat even interviewed. It was all Republicans posturing and pointing fingers and playing the blame game… and trying to salvage their party for next month’s elections.
Seriously, count the number of Republicans versus Democrats that you see weighing in on this subject!!! You may be very surprised.

Mark Foley should move to Spain. Where anyone can get married, and you can have sex with teenagers starting at 16.
That way, he’d get the hell out of my now not-so-democratic country. Thanks a lot, Mark, for representing my state- and gay people- so well all these years.

Why are the Republicans called the GOP. They are not a Grand Old Party. By European and civilised terms they are a Far Right party.
It is sad that the USA has now fallen so far behind civilised norms.

It is not party lines that we should be concerned with. Remember “Let the first person be with out sin who cast the first stone”. It is what Mr Foley has stated that he did that makes him guilty. He “yes” he stated he wrote sexual messages to under age children. Some of those messages being several years ago. Because he states he is homosexual is no excuse to indulge in pedophila. Being homosexual and a pedophile are two totally differant things. All who have participated in a cover up are just as guilty as Mr.Foley and they in turn should give up their positions. Whether they be democrat or republican should not be the issue. It is a sad day for america when you have to decide bad and worse when trying to vote for someone in public office. These are the people we have placed in office to lead our country. It is to bad that we could not kick them all out and start over. There is too much big money in play lining their pockets.

Why are you posting this stuff? The guy left office. What’s being gained here? I have not seen any concern for the young man he was talking to. I think we all know what the object is here.

As a kid myself, I think Foley is a sick, twisted man in need of help. I mean, who would honestly do something that harsh that has authority. Some of the things he has said cannot have been said while under the influence of alcohol. I believe Mr. Foley to be an utter shame of politics, and should be a prime example of pedophile. And a message to kids like me, don’t fall under these twisted men’s lies, they’ll just break you, seduce you and ruin you future. Do not fall into the sick trap they try to pull on you.

Interesting how Foley wasn’t molested, or an alcoholic or gay prior to everyone finding out he’s a pedophile.
Now, all of a sudden he’ll be just about anything to divert attention from the truth.
You’re a kid-toucher Foley. Admit it, take your punishment, get help and get on with what’s left of your sorry life.

I like a lot of people on this blog don’t care who’s gay. My concern is were they born with those feeling or did something in their life time happen to help make the lifestyle..There is a difference and like all other things in this world that influencenes young people this I think can be a bad thing for our young. As a grandmother I well do everything in my power to protect my grandchildren from preditors-NOT ON MY WATCH-will this happen to children. Priest’s are well know to have been found out as well as others, it’s time we stop this and get justice for those who can’t speak for themselves. And lets continue the story to find out all about the sex rings on capital hill.

Hey, Granny Barb – fyi most of the pedophiles I have met have presented as straight to the world. Two were married – how does that grab you? There is no real connection between pedophilia and hetro vs homo sexuality. Please don’t bark up the wrong tree.