Tony Snow Reads Kerry Quote Into the Official Record
ABC News’ Ann Compton Reports: With dizzying speed Senator John Kerry’s newest quote has Republicans pouncing. Bringing the scuffle into the media mainstream, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow seemed to delight in reading the entire Kerry quote into the official record of his daily briefing, live on tv.
Speaking to students at Pasadena City College, Democrat Kerry said Monday, "You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well, and if you don’t you get stuck in Iraq.”
The White House spokesman took that to mean the troops, called it an "absolute insult" and Snow strongly suggested the Senator has apologies in order for soliders and families of troops who have died.
The acid response might have stopped there but the Republican party’s number one veteran, Senator John McCain, added this sizzling retort: "an insult to every soldier serving in combat, and should deeply offend any American with an ounce of appreciation for what they suffer and risk so that the rest of us can sleep more comfortably at night."
Kerry’s written response is unusually personal and biting, and insists the "stuck in Iraq" reference is to President Bush. “If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they’re crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did."
And talk radio is just warming up over this one….
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Posted by: Politics by The Untitled One | October 31, 2006, 8:34 am 8:34 am
I am sickened and angered by John Kerry’s remarks. I have been in the U.S. Army for over 19 1/2 years; I have a college degree and I have been to Iraq and served honorably. Does that mean I am less of a person or something? What in the world is wrong with him? He owes every single military member, past and present, a huge apology. Does John Kerry think that he is smarter, more educated, than the likes of GEN Casey? GEN (R) Colin Powell, GEN (R) Schwarzkopf, and many, many other outstanding military leaders? Give me a break.
Posted by: timothy glenn | October 31, 2006, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Kerry’s remarks are out there and he can’t obfiscate and even though the Driveby Media will shill for him all America heard him!!!!
Elitist, condescending and arrogance by Kerry, Main Stream Media and Democrats, but with 20 million hearing it and 14 million reading it, there is no twisting the meaning!!!!
Posted by: Bob Clark | October 31, 2006, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Didn’t Kerry get the memo to not speak until after the election? Anybody else notice the democratic leadership is mysteriously MIA lately? Anything to keep from not saying anything that shows their true colors and motives. Kerry will be taken to the woodshed on this one! And then he blames the GOP for what he said. By the way, in contrast to Kerry, Rush stood firmly by his statement last week with no follow-up “clarifications”. Unlike Kerry. Please pass the popcorn, this is a great show.
Posted by: Jay | October 31, 2006, 9:51 am 9:51 am
I just read on your website the remarks john kerry made. he made no mention of President Bush or any politcal entity. he has insulted me also as I am a former service member. I would like to know how tony Snow or any one else twisted kerry’s comments in any way. In my opinion, abc is just despicable and warped as kerry. By the way, I was against a war in Iraq or any other form of nation building. I also am not a republican. I damned sure am not a socialist democrat. Read this if you dare, you spineless, lying whiny butt.
Posted by: gbonner | October 31, 2006, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Why they let this man speak the week before an election is beyond me. This is the same man that alienated more than two/thirds of the country in ’04 by calling them lazy, unemployed, nuts among other things….
This is not really open to too much interpretation. It says if you aren’t smart enough to cut it in college you are stupid enough to be a soldier. And it fits into Sen. Kerry having thrown his medals away and his conduct ever since. He has shown disrespect for the military on many occasions.
Posted by: Kate | October 31, 2006, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Kerry obviously was talking about Bush…who is the one “stuck in Iraq”. Why in the world would Kerry insult U.S. troops for no good reason? The Republicans are creating straw men to knock down since they want to avoid dealing with the reality of their failures. Tony Snow is nothing but a hairstyle in search of a brain.
Posted by: Dirik Lolkus | October 31, 2006, 10:23 am 10:23 am
i think every man and woman serving our great country should write to sen kerry and tell him how they feel about his comment.my husband ,who is a very intelligent man, with several degrees ,served in vietman and was proud to do so.he is also disgusted with this @$^&*$# man. no words can describe my disgust.
Posted by: mary wicks | October 31, 2006, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Tom Vaitys- Yeah that was a bone-headed statement by Kerry. On the other hand Cheney, Tony Snow, Rush Limbaugh have no military background in a combat/war zone. They dodged the draft through loopholes. I’m sure they are mighty proud of that.
On the other hand Bush and Rumsfeld got to fly around a little while inside the U.S. The closest experience they had with shooters was at a Stateside Airbase Bar.
Sadly this administration squeezed the one (decent) guy who had experience in a combat/war zone- Colin Powell.
So of course they will jump on Kerry- why not what else do they have to talk about?
What a shame it is that this administration is so in love with hearing itself talk rather than provide workable solutions. The hypocrisy in this Administration is stunning. Why Moderate Republicans and Fiscal Conservatives have not yet revolted is amazing.
I think this round of voting goes to the Boneheads and not to the Hippocrates.
Sadly this administration squeezed the one (decent) guy who had experience in a combat/war zone- Colin Powell.
What a shame it is that this administration is so in love with hearing itself talk rather than provide workable solutions. The hypocrisy in this Administration is stunning. Why Moderate Republicans and Fiscal Conservatives have not yet revolted is amazing.
I think this round of voting goes to the Boneheads and not to the Hippocrates.
Posted by: Tom Vaitys | October 31, 2006, 10:37 am 10:37 am
I heard the speach and I knew he was talking about BUSH right away. The GOP’s do this all the time,I’m 69yrs old I’ve seen it over and over again. They try to take the spotlight off themselves.My vote is not for McCaine now. He’s The same as the rest.You hear what you want to hear.
Posted by: Dorothy | October 31, 2006, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Are you kidding me? John Kerry’s comments have nothing to do with Hippocrates or Boneheads, he is a horses a@@, period. No matter what party you support, you cannot possibly defend this elitist moron. There is no way to possibly spin this in a positive manner. He made his bed and now he can rot in it!!
Posted by: chri | October 31, 2006, 11:02 am 11:02 am
If this is just a botched joke then so be it and lets end this round. I am a conservative republican, but I will play fair always. I will give him the benefit if the doubt after reading his explanation. HOWEVER, the problem with that is if this were Bush in the exact same situation, the criticism about how he is too stupid to even tell a joke, etc. would go on and on. So, let us have our fun with this one for the one news cycle it will have…I doubt it has much more than that in it.
Posted by: Jay | October 31, 2006, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Well, aren’t we “Stuck in Iraq?” For god sakes, he meant George Bush! and anyone with half a brain could understand that.
The person who owes the apology is George Bush to all the soldiers “Stuck” over there, doing 3 terms and to all the families who have lost loved ones.
George got us into it, and now he has no way of getting us out — it’s a mess and now the PM of Iraq is calling the shots in Sadr City.
John Kerry does not owe anyone an apology. George Bush owes the apology.
Posted by: paulet | October 31, 2006, 11:15 am 11:15 am
It amazes me how the two readers above Kate & Tom can respond and defend Kerry by putting others down…ie “Tony Snow is nothing but a hairstyle in search of a brain”.
If it were not for the Swift Boat Veterans Kerry would probably be president. He is not worthy of carring water for any of our brave troops.
Posted by: Yianni | October 31, 2006, 11:16 am 11:16 am
lets be serious, kerry was right, did you hear rumsfelt today, there will be a troop increase, not long before a draft and guess what, no education, you go to iraq period, where did kerry lie, it is the repubs just dont want the cat out of the bag until after the election, where we will hear stay the course and a draft.
Posted by: mike | October 31, 2006, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Kerry got an education and fought in Vietnam…Bush was a cheerleader and like the coward he is avoided Vietnam…Rush Limbaugh’s actions and words need no clarification…drugs and comments regarding unfortunate Americans with currently incurable diseases. I am a Vietnam veteran who met John Kerry…I know he stands with me in action and words! I stand with my brother John Kerry and not those who talk and never serve!
Posted by: John | October 31, 2006, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Oh poor Republicans–now they want to stand up for the troops? Kerry was right to say that if you don’t get a good education, you could end up having to join the military and get sent to Vietnam, Iraq, or wherever by the absolute idiots that run the military. I’m fed up with half-witted service personnel that would rather send their own children to die for a lie than admit they should’ve been smart enough to see when they were sold a bad deal. If you don’t get educated, you have limited choices. Vets, don’t pull the patriot card and act the hero because you’re not. You’re just a guy that had to do a crummy job, and you’re not any better than the rest of us. If you’re not smart enough to figure that out, you probably shouldn’t be carrying a piece.
Posted by: steve | October 31, 2006, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Kerry was talking about the US now being stuck in IRAQ. We are stuck. Not even a new President or new Congress could get us out without creating a big mess. Bush/Republicans have no plan except to pass the buck. You can’t pass the buck when you are in power. I was hoping in 2000 that social security and tax reform would happen under the republicans. We all know that hasn’t happen for the middle class. What would the US be like if we had that money we are spending in IRAQ. I wish we had waited for good information(I heard the good info was surpressed) before we went find WMD which don’t exist!
Posted by: Rodney Atlanta | October 31, 2006, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Yanni-At least Kerry went to war. Bush records are MIA and he never went to war. As a guy whose brother and nephew went to serve I don’t need guys who got out of service (bush and others)telling us what we need to be offended about. At least Kerry stood up and served I don’t care what swiftboot who backed a guy who used power to stay out of combat say. Swiftboot please Not to Swift I say!
Posted by: Rodney Atlanta | October 31, 2006, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Will Tony Snow please tell us what the dunking remark meant.
Will Tony Snow please tell us about what the White House is doing about October being one of the deadliest months for Iraq troops?
Will Tony Snow tell us how our conservative party spent us into
uncontollable debt?
Posted by: pmiller | October 31, 2006, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I’m just wondering who appointed McCain as spokesperson for all those serving in Iraq.
Also, I’m an American and I’m not “deeply offended” by Kerry’s comments.
Just like the GOP project their beliefs onto everyone.
Posted by: Bender | October 31, 2006, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
My whole family going back to the 1950s has served in the military. I cannot express my disgust properly without being sensored. My friends were lukewarm about voting and the election in general. After listening to Kerry’s speech they are all voting Republican even relatives who are Democrat. Kerry’s history confirms the view that it was directed at the students. I recently graduated from Portland State University and heard this statement many times. The location, audience, and the history of Kerry points to, without a doubt, a insult to me and our military.
Posted by: phillip ramsdell | October 31, 2006, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
I served two tours in Vietnam and I’ll say the same thing as John Kerry: Stay in school or you’ll wind up in Iraq. It’s about time our politicians who we trust to lead us, stop betraying the youth of America by sending them to die for their own political gain. What’s insulting to our military are people like Cheney, Tony Snow, Karl Rove and Wolfowitz who didn’t have the backbone to put on our country’s uniform and be proud to carry our flag into battle. These types including Snow, Limbaugh, Hanmity and others choose to instead hide behind our flag and denigrate those who are willing to die so they can carry on their with their own cowardly lives.
My son served in Iraq but I guarantee that my grandson will never risk his life to die for this generation of second-rate politicians. Keep talking John Kerry, John Murtha. I’ll follow you into battle, not these clowns.
Posted by: Bob | November 1, 2006, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Kerry said what he said. His words are disrespectful to our troops and the commander in cheif during a time of war. He is a Senator and should know better. The GOP does not have to use anything from their playbook against Kerry. His elitiste attitude and his mouth are his own worse enimies.
Posted by: dixie guilbeau | November 1, 2006, 2:35 am 2:35 am
why somebody who used to liken our soldiers to Mongol Hordes would ever apologize for merely calling them retarded is anybody’s guess:
Posted by: Flemming | November 1, 2006, 3:17 am 3:17 am
I bet the Democrats are furious over the Kerry comments. Time and time again he comes across as a bitter complainer. When was the last time he offered any solutions? It’s easy to see why Clinton’s former staff had such a difficult time marketing him in the last Presidential election.
Someone should remind Kerry that it is a ‘better thing to keep one’s mouth shut and let everyone think you are a fool, than to open it, and remove all doubt.”
Posted by: Rob Bluestein | November 1, 2006, 4:46 am 4:46 am
According to the first Globe article, the pre-released text of the speech shows what the joke was written as:
“Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.”
Too bad only one media outlet has even bothered to try to verify Kerry’s claim that it was, in fact, a botched joke.
The disingenuousness on this, especially now McCain, is both horrific and entirely predictable.
Posted by: Miller | November 1, 2006, 5:07 am 5:07 am
Everyone blaims Bush for being in Iraq. Will someone please tell me what % of the house and Senate ratified the decision to go to war in Iraq and yes, they were privy to the same intelligence the Bush team had.
It is easy to sling mud about going to war but if we look at who voted for it then maybe they should sling mud at themselves. Do you hear any solutions coming from Kerry? No and you never will; this guy is a detriment to the democratic party to say the least. The democrats need to stop slinging mud and propose how they would get out of Iraq, their logic, approach, and timeline.
Posted by: Todd | November 1, 2006, 6:56 am 6:56 am
Actually they weren’t “privy” to the same info, they were in fact as misinformed by this admin. as the rest of us.
This new Kerry thing is just the old switcheroo slight of mouth bull that this admin. has been perpetrating all along.
I am very disturbed that Sen. Mccain who was himself a target of this machine in 2000 would back this diabolical political garbage.
I would have voted for him, but now I’m not so pleased with his turning into just another Bush peon.
Posted by: spooks | November 1, 2006, 7:41 am 7:41 am
We are at war. It is time that all americans pull together with offering solutions instead of negative attacks. The attacks on America began with the first attack on the world trade center in the early 90s.
Posted by: Rodney | November 1, 2006, 8:15 am 8:15 am
(((Assumptions/Ground rules: “In Iraq” is taken to be equivalent to “in the military and in Iraq” in this context; i.e., no Halliburton employee is being addressed, even though some are “in Iraq”. This is interesting, because Kerry didn’t say being dumb would necessarily put you in the *military*, only that it would put you in *Iraq*; then many commentors *assumed* he was talking about the military and took his remarks to be insulting, but I digress …))) Here’s a *logical* viewpoint that I haven’t seen discussed: What Kerry said was (to paraphrase): “IF you’re dumb, THEN you end up in Iraq.” He did NOT say the reverse: “If you’re in Iraq, then you’re dumb.” The first statement DOES NOT imply the second; having made the first statement does not entail an apology for the second. Logically, even if the first statement were true, it’s possible that there are NO dumb (military) people in Iraq. So asserting the first statement does NOT imply that the military are dumb; at worst it implies that SOME people in Iraq COULD BE dumb. And it also implies (empirically, not strictly logically) that the PROCESS by which people end up in the military (and thus “in Iraq”) will put you in Iraq if you’re dumb, which is essentially what Kerry pointed out in his after remarks. This is a difficult point to get across since a high percentage of commentors already “know” what Kerry stands for and what he “really meant”, and are reacting to this. But it’s not what he said.
Posted by: Laurie | November 1, 2006, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Jeez, some of you are so freaking stupid, if you would just read what Kerry said IN CONTEXT, NOT CHOPPED UP AS THE POLITICIANS ALWAYS DO, you can make your own decisions on what he said.
Knee jerk idiots.
Posted by: Jake | November 1, 2006, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Good luck to all you brain-washed Republicans. Never mind that you were sold a bill of goods about WMDs, never mind the propaganda about the welcome mat of flowers and smiles welcoming us, despite the warnings and realities presented then, never mind the manipulation of the press, or the fact that we as “stuck in Iraq” and have earned the enmity of the people there because we have a brain-dead president and administration that can’t admit a mistake. Blame the Dems or the Democrat party– even if the adjective is “Democratic” for you dummies out there. Heck, let the Republicans win another round and you can celebrate the beautiful victory in Iraq without the criticisms of the Dems or Kerry–if you can get yourselves out of it. As far as Tony Snow–who joins of great team with McClellan & Flieshirt–Kerry didn’t get it quite right. It should be “a stuffed suit behind a podium” and spewing propaganda. Good luck.
Posted by: JAS | November 1, 2006, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
If John Kerry was referring to the President, he should remember that the President’s average in college was higher than his own. If he was reading a prepared speech, he should fire his writers. His sentence structure is no better than the President’s in any of his speeches. He’s shown his true colors once more. He isn’t true “blue” at all; he’s yellow through and through. He should be the man he wasn’t in Viet Nam, during the 2004 Presidential Campaign, and obviously today, and apologize.
Posted by: Zu | November 1, 2006, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Broed,
Anybody who says that they are “NOW GOING TO VOTE” but were previously planning to abstain prior to Kerry’s mis-spoken comments is full of crap. Their disingenious proclamation of being reinvigorated to vote in an effort to stand up and be heard – because of what “Kerry and Democrats ‘really’ think” is a bogus claim. They were always going to vote. Been chomping at the bit and would have likely been first in-line to pull the Republican Party lever. It’s a “get out the Vote” tactic and a sham to suggest otherwise.
Posted by: Dan | November 2, 2006, 8:01 am 8:01 am
HE SAID HE botched a joke! I say he IS a botched joke!!!!! His anger has turned him to stone!! Look in his eyes~they are vacant! However you choose to vote, don’t let John Kerry influence you. In the words of Imus~ “I’m beggin’ ya!”
Posted by: ME | November 2, 2006, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Questions for John -
(1) Are you implying in “the rest of us” that you have not served in the military?
(2) Are you implying that there is not any person in the current military who did not think of your benefit as they decided to fight? or Are you saying that even if they are fighting for your benefit that it is not truely for your benefit (because it is a lie) and therefore deserves no merit of being concidered a “higher” occupation?
Posted by: Questioner | November 2, 2006, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
OUR TROOPS UNDER ATTACK
Our troops in Iraq are under heavy
attack. They are being attacked
by Iraqi terrorists. And, they are
being attacked by American
politicians … politicians from
both parties.
A top Democrat, John Kerry, makes
a joke implying that our troops
are not very smart.
And, a top Republican, John
Boehner, blames our generals for
our problems in Iraq, implying
that our generals are not very
smart.
Kerry apologized for his joke, and
said that he botched a joke aimed
at George Bush.
Boehner has refused to apologize
for his accusation.
I feel sorry for our generals.
The big boss under estimated the
terrorist threat in Iraq, under
estimated the threat of sectarian
violence in Iraq, and then failed
to send them enough help. And
then they get the blame for the
inevitable problems caused by the
big boss’s mistakes.
And, I feel sorry for our troops.
They are paying a heavy price for
the big boss’s mistakes.
Posted by: Ralph | November 2, 2006, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
STUCK IN IRAQ
According to John Kerry, he
botched a joke aimed at George
Bush.
He claims that he was trying to
make the following point: Because
George Bush failed to do his
homework, we are now stuck in Iraq.
After we bash Kerry for his stupid
joke, perhaps we should ask the
question: Did George Bush do his
homework?
Bush under estimated the terrorist
threat in Iraq, despite the fact
that he went there to fight
terrorism. He under estimated the
threat of sectarian violence,
despite the fact that Iraq is
composed of three ethnic groups
who hate each other. And he under
estimated the number of troops
needed in Iraq, ignoring the
advice of a number of his top
military people. As a result,
there was no adequate plan to win
the peace in Iraq, and no adequate
means to secure that peace.
It sure seems like George Bush
failed to do his homework.
And if that is the case, perhaps
George Bush should apologize to
our troops for that failure. They
are paying a heavy price because
of it.
And so is our nation.
It could be that this issue boils
down to the following: “botched
joke by John Kerry” versus
“botched policy in Iraq by George
Bush”.
And here’s a troubling thought.
If George Bush failed to do his
homework on the terrorist threat
in Iraq, did he fail to do his
homework on the terrorist threat
in America? (Keep in mind that
he’s gotten D’s and F’s from the
bipartisan 9-11 Commission.)
Posted by: Ralph | November 2, 2006, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
I have to laugh. I don’t support this war, however, I am a vehement supporter of our troops regardless of whether that job they’re sent to do is right or not. It’s not their decision, yet it is their lives on the line.
However, of late, with this Kerry thing I am sorely disappointed. I don’t know if it’s people on the net pretending to be in the military or actual military members but truly some of you need to stop and think about what you’re saying.
You’re claiming Kerry called the military stupid and in the same breath swear you’re not stupid and you’re insulted by his comment. Yet here some of you are, managing to completely ignore the comments original context, completely ignore the fact that it was directed at the leadership of government and not the troops and continually make an ass of yourselves in your supposed patriotism by helping the GOP and Bush misdirect the topics which should be principal in this election: The management of the Iraq war (or failure thereof), the deficit, the debt, our schools, our safety, a better balance of civil rights, habeus corpus and the list goes on.
This argument has gotten so out of hand that do you realize that the GOP now thinks that it’s the Generals fault that Iraq is falling apart? That the Generals some how do not have to honor the orders of the Secretary of Defense and the President? That these people refuse to take responsibility for an failing action that is taking the lives of our countrymen and women and will push the blame of failure on anyone who comes into their peripheral vision at this point?
I’m sorry you’re butt hurt over what Kerry said because you fail to understand the context of the quote – but even if he was intending to say that if you don’t stay in school, your job opportunities will be limited and you could end up stuck in Iraq, if you’re a big boy or girl and can handle bullets being shot at you surely you can handle at least one person recognizing that the military has been a long standing “last choice, can’t find a job” option in this country for both the educated and uneducated, but mostly the poor and undereducated. That shouldn’t be news to anyone with the intelligence some of you are claiming to have.
Posted by: KC | November 3, 2006, 5:20 am 5:20 am
Of course Bush has a plan to get out of Iraq. In ’09 he goes back to Texas and leaves his mess for others to clean up. The rest of his team from Rumsfeld to Rove will simply fade away pocketing their spoils. One thing is certain, none of this bunch will reemerge as respected elder statesmen as so many before them has. Believe me, there’s no Eisenhowers, Trumans, Clintons or Carters in this bunch.
Posted by: Bob | November 3, 2006, 6:06 am 6:06 am
We know that Bush doesn’t care if only Laura and his dog supports him in the war, he’ll “stay the course”. Now AP quotes Cheney that “…it may not be popular with the public. It doesn’t matter..”
I’ve got news for both of them,it matters to the 9-11 and military families that lost their loved ones.
Let me remind them both that this this is still a democracy, not a kingdom.
Posted by: Bob George | November 6, 2006, 4:35 am 4:35 am
I worked hard, got an education, did all the right things…and I got stuck in a blue state (Michigan).
Posted by: DerRick | November 11, 2006, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Kerry’s remark was directed at Bush. Kerry is a combat veteran, while Bush rushed from graduation to be swept into the Texas National Guard–ahead of hundreds on a Viet Nam era waiting list. Bush’s family support in politics just couldn’t sustain him through all of his foreign policy mistakes. In the end, Bush’s incompetence has come shining through.
Posted by: CwBama | February 18, 2007, 8:58 am 8:58 am