London Braces for Attack; ‘Miracle’ If There Isn’t One
British intelligence and law enforcement officials have passed on a grim assessment to their U.S. counterparts, "It will be a miracle if there isn’t a terror attack over the holidays in London," a senior American law enforcement official tells ABCNews.com. British police have been quietly carrying out a series of key arrests as they continue to track at least six active "plots" tied to what they call "al Qaeda of England." Officials said they could not cite any specific date or target but said al Qaeda had planned previous operations during the Christmas holidays that had been disrupted. THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS Al Qaeda Recruitment Ongoing in Pakistan Pakistan Tracking American al Qaeda Click Here for to Check Out the Brian Ross Investigative Webcast "It is not a matter of if there will be an attack, but how bad the attack will be," an intelligence official told ABCNews.com. Authorities say they are seeking at least 18 suspected suicide bombers. Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage. "They hope they are one step ahead, but they seriously fear they may be one step behind," the senior American official said. British law enforcement and intelligence officials say the ongoing plots have been in the planning stages for at least three years. The officials say the plots are all connected and track back to al Qaeda commanders in Pakistan who have been recruiting and training British citizens of Pakistan descent. A report by "Newsweek" says that American al Qaeda figure Adam Gadahn has served as a translator of a 12-member team of Western recruits, the "English brothers," said to be preparing an attack that would be much bigger than last year’s attack on the London subway system. Watch ABCNews’ undercover video of the active al Qaeda recruitment efforts inside Pakistan. U.S. officials say the "Newsweek" report is, in many respects, parallel to intelligence reports they have been receiving. British Home Minister John Reid recently told reporters that it was "highly likely" that terrorists would attempt an attack before the first of the year.
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Surely the liberals understand the “good” people of the world must prevail. Negotiations with these brainwashed thugs is not the answer. Kill them!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Richard | December 21, 2006, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Maybe its time we drop the bomb and show them that we mean business when it comes to terrorism. It ended WW2 and it would either end terrorism or at least make them think of the consequences before they take action. Look at it this way; we should strike first before they use a dirt bomb on us. All the intelligence available will not work and one day we will be hit again. As the 9/11 indicated, it’s inevitable.
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2006, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Good plan, Joe. It’s precisely that type of rational thought that the terrists lack.
Posted by: G Walker | December 21, 2006, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Take note that the “The officials say the plots are all connected and track back to al Qaeda commanders in Pakistan who have been recruiting and training British citizens of Pakistan descent.” This is the same country that is supposedly a partner in the fight against terrorism. Not only is Pakistan the home base for Terrorism, it is also a country with nukes and a demonstrated willingness to export the technology. Just not enough oil there for it be a concern to the US in the war on terror. Hmmmm.
Posted by: BooMan | December 21, 2006, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I live in NYC, breathed the smoke of 9/11, and I’m a lot more afraid of the commenters to this story than I am of any terrorists.
Posted by: Ken | December 21, 2006, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Ok, but here’s the rub … “who” do you propose killing, and “where” do you suggest dropping your bomb? I guess we could invade another random country to “send a message.” I think that message is already getting through.
Posted by: James | December 21, 2006, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Richard and Joe,
Kill who?
Drop a bomb where?
Posted by: Stan | December 21, 2006, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Ummm…where exactly do you propose to “drop the big one”? Unlike WW2, we are not fighting a nation. We are tilting at terrorist windmills. It’s not like you are suggesting that we bomb London to get these guys. Are you?
Posted by: graciee | December 21, 2006, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Ummm, and I suppose England should have nuked Northern Ireland back in the day to prevent more attacks from the IRA?!?! Exactly where would you “drop the bomb”, Joe? And a “dirt bomb”? Sounds messy, but I’m sure Tide and All-Temperature Cheer would sell like hotcakes…
Posted by: Anita Beer | December 21, 2006, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Man, with all this craziness happening in Pakistan and Afghanistan, all I can say is thank god we’ve got 140,000 troops in, um, Iraq.
Why is that again?
Posted by: Dave J. | December 21, 2006, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Maybe we should wise up one day and realize we are being wickedly manipulated by our own governments. Drop the bomb where exactly?
What would happen to oil transport then? And how would we ever rationalize non-proliferation fter that?
Use your brain for something like rational thinking!
Posted by: sonja | December 21, 2006, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
The enemy is within our own gates, and it is our own fault for blindly letting them in, all in the name of the almighty dollar. The Democrats have let us down with their liberal social policies, and the Republicans have let us down with their liberal economic policies. The result of each is the United States has been flooded with millions of people.
Posted by: Geoffrey Syme | December 21, 2006, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Oh yeah… drop the bomb. That’ll solve everything. And they’ll LOVE us after that.
Posted by: Rick | December 21, 2006, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Where do you plan on dropping the bomb? They live amongst us, worldwide. They live in London and New York and Paris and everywhere else. To bomb them you may find that you are, in fact, bombing yourself or someone you love. Good luck.
Posted by: Katy | December 21, 2006, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Yes, but who do we drop the bomb on?
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2006, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
OK, where would you like to drop this bomb?
Posted by: SwampYankee | December 21, 2006, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Drop it where, Joe? Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, England all have terrorist activity. Even the United States. So where would you like to start with the brutal killing of thousands of innocent people in order to kill a few dozen terrorists?
Posted by: Matt | December 21, 2006, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Christmas cheer.
Posted by: mike | December 21, 2006, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I am sick to death of the “political correctness” that’s putting so many people in danger. So what if it’s not “politically correct” to profile? It’s one of the most practical ways to begin to get this horrific situation under control. I never thought that I would actively advocate the singling out of religious group for closer scrutiny, but radical Islamics have made it abundantly clear that are absolutely unwilling to give everyone else the religious and secular freedom they want for themselves–and that they will do anything they deem necessary to crush those who oppose them. Enough already…If violent Islamic fundamentalists cannot play well with others, it is time to remove them from the playground altogether.
Posted by: Cat | December 21, 2006, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Re: Drop the bomb.
Where do we drop it? al-Quedastan?
Posted by: Will | December 21, 2006, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
drop it where? London or New York? That’s where the terrorists were last time, and most likely to strike again
Posted by: SwampYankee | December 21, 2006, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Dropping the bomb would be a good idea, we have to nip this problem once and for all and I think that should do it.
Posted by: David Jablonowski | December 21, 2006, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
“Drop the bomb”? Where? The terrorists are not in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. They are throughout Europe and the U.S. Waging war in the Middle East is for private, corporate gain and not in the interest of saving the world from terrorism- an effective excuse nontheless, which is apparent from the preceding comments. Resources would be better spent domestically, as our future is being squandered to the benefit of a few.
Posted by: lucy | December 21, 2006, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
It’s all the work of british intelligence, just like 7/7 in London. Intelligence always conducts “training” exercises for the events they are going to stage the same day. 7/7 there was a training exercise to stop bombs on busses and trains. On 9/11 in the USA there was a training exercise that morning for hijacked planes slamming into buildings. This is how they operate. So if you hear about “terror training drills”…get out of dodge.
Posted by: Angus MacPherson | December 21, 2006, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
We cannot use the bomb against them – it will turn the rest of the world against us, further than they already are.
Posted by: Joe Brooks | December 21, 2006, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
“Can’t we all just get along?”
Rodney King
Posted by: R. King | December 21, 2006, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
despite the tough talk of the previoius two comments, there is in fact no “they” to kill or nuke, were you of a mind to do so. the West has very cleverly implemented a policy of embedding all manner of “they” within Western society, without thought as to cultural or political allegience. the threat is all around you, and at least in Britain, likely born there. tis now done, and there is no reversing it. the only effective policies now are either stop meddling in the Middle East, or turn the West into an unbearable police state. obviously that latter is the course which seems to be prevailing. good luck; we will all need it.
Posted by: alexander | December 21, 2006, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
What’s also sad it that for liberals, everything is political. The only reason they fear an attack is that their insane, high and mighty social-program aspirations will suffer. Now, do you think the liberals care if citizens are killed – as long as we’re nice to the detainees at Gitmo ??
Posted by: Charles | December 21, 2006, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Dear Leanne, this really scares me. Jim
Posted by: Leanne | December 21, 2006, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Liberals understand a lot, including the fact that the war on terror, like the war on drugs, will never be won by a central administration using force. As long as there is a supply and a demand, market conditions will operate. Bush and the conservatives have much done more to lose a war on terror than a liberal president would have done. In fact, a geranium would have made a better president in the war on terror than Bush. Time to wake up face the facts of world conditions instead of wishing for the laziest, intellectually easiest solution such as a bomb.
Posted by: fred | December 21, 2006, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Peaceful religion of islam? My a**! We’re all fools for thinking dialogue and negotiation will deter anyone set on killing themselves anyway. So, mohammed now is the #1 name ahead of George in England? They’ll wish they were fighting Sean again instead of mohammed.
Posted by: Rich | December 21, 2006, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
que sera sera
Posted by: Elvis | December 21, 2006, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
The root of the word terrorism is “terror”. If you are afraid, if you desire retribution, if your life is disrupted, the terrorists win. If you start or perpetuate a conflict with the Muslim culture, the terrorists win. The overwhelming majority of Muslims want what you and I want: Happiness, Safety, Home, Family, Peace. They are our best insurance against being attacked; we must treat them with respect if we expect them to assist us with this mutual problem.
“But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.” Matt 5:39
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Perhaps it is just a ploy by the governments of the world to keep the “endless war” going. Lets scare the people of the world right when they are celebrating holidays so we can keep this manifested war fresh in the minds of all. Maybe, if the west would stop forcing our way of thinking down everyone’s throats then perhaps we may all live in peace. Violence breeds violence and we have increasingly been causing or adding to the violence in the world.
Posted by: Mike | December 21, 2006, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I’d certainly like to see the war on terror succeed or at least move to the next level. But the vexing question is who do we drop the bomb on, Joe? It’s not like Al Qaeda has a capital city. Times have changed and this enemy is nearly impossible to fight in a conventional sense.
Posted by: fxn | December 21, 2006, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Trouble with dropping the bomb is, they welcome martyrdom, even on a mass scale. For instance, Iran’s former president Rafsanjani admits Iran could suffer 15 million dead in a nuclear war with Israel … and says that would be a small price to pay for the destruction of Israel. And Ahmadinejad is advertising in Iranian newspapers for persons to join “a martyrdomseeking
division” for each province in Iran in case of invasion.
Posted by: Warren | December 21, 2006, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Ok, who do we drop the bomb on? The terrorists do not come from one country they are everywhere and embedded in many countries the world over?
And please don’t say Iraq…anyone with a brain knows that the War on Terror and the self-imposed War in Iraq are two totally different things.
Posted by: Scott | December 21, 2006, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
We could start by taking out the nuclear facilities of Iran. Tactical nucs from a couple subs in the Persian Gulf would put them out of the business for the next century. But the more serious problem are the enemy in our midst, including European and American converts to Islamofascism. For that we need to start shutting down mosques and madrasas.
Posted by: Roderick | December 21, 2006, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
The problem with the bomb is where would you bomb? They have sleeper cells and active cells all over the world, and if you were to bomb one, or two of the more concentrated places, you would just infuriate the other cells even more and cause more to convert to extremism out of anger. We need to figure out a way to fight a cause that has been veiled as a religious belief.
Posted by: Robert | December 21, 2006, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
“Maybe its time we drop the bomb”
And where would you drop “the bomb” genius? Also – please enlighten me as to how that would help?
Posted by: Bill | December 21, 2006, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
They’re coming. They’re coming. Make no mistake.
And the liberal, appeasing, “can’t we all get along” approach has done nothing but made them bolder and more determined.
Posted by: George | December 21, 2006, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Joe, I concur completely.
Posted by: Reginald | December 21, 2006, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
There is no hope in Islam. And for most trapped in that religion, no choice from a cultural perspective. It was started by a man who declared war, and will forever be trapped inside its own narrowsightedness, where elders in the community send their children to blow themselves up…for what? For nothing! For fear!
Jesus Christ came into the world to bring life and light and hope to all. He encourages us when He said, “I have come that you might have abundant life.” and “I have come to seek and save that which was lost.”
Have a Merry Christmas celebrating His journey to this place in which we cause and endure so much trouble apart from Him.
Posted by: Paul Revere | December 21, 2006, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Muslims planning terrorist attacks – imagine that.
Funny how every single armed conflict currently going on in the world involves Muslims – you know, the great religion of “Peace”.
Posted by: Jeff | December 21, 2006, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
I hope the above posts are being sarcastic. In this day and age, when reading just a little bit of history shows us just how useless war is, people cannot seriously point to using more guns and bombs to fix anything.
Read a book… preferably a history book… one not written by a warmonger.
Smartest move for the US: spend one years worth of your military budget on renewable energy.
Posted by: Louis | December 21, 2006, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
“Kill them”, “Drop the bomb” Do we honestly think threats of death and nuclear destruction matter to a group of people who believe that dying for their religion is an honor? If anything that’s doing them a favor. The only way to eventually solve this problem is years,decades, generations of outreach to muslim youths BEFORE they become brainwashed by their religious zealots.
Posted by: Jay | December 21, 2006, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Odd that BA and London cancelled all outgoing flights for 48 hours. You would almost think they’ve never experienced fog before.
Posted by: Javelin | December 21, 2006, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
According to a British newspaper published yesterday, autopsy results on Alexander Litvinenko established that he was poisoned with more than ten times the lethal dose of polonium-210 – a murder that would have cost in excess of $10 million.
I fear Litvinenko was dealing with a dirty bomb.
Posted by: Ron Stallcup | December 21, 2006, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I’m sorry, but I seem to be missing your point Joe… How exactly will killing people already contemplating suicide (ie- suicide bombers)change anything?
Expect to maybe turn people that may have not been contemplating becoming suicide bombers, into suicide bombers? If those people that were not previously considering becoming suicide bombers, felt that it made no difference what they did or didn’t do… They’re going to be killed anyway, no matter what they do?
I know that if I felt that no matter what I did or did not do… I was going to be killed… It’s possible that I might want to take as many people out with me as a I could. A situation such as the one you’re advocating could very easily create terrorists out of people that might have otherwise never considered such actions. If they’re going to die senseless deaths for things that have absolutely nothing to do with them… Is it not possible those people might not think, “Hey, if I’m going to die for no reason, I’m taking a hell of a lot of other innocent people with me?”
Posted by: disenchanted | December 21, 2006, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
When will “men” learn Killing only bring on more killing, it would be nice at some point in time for us to us understanding, instead of “Kill Them!”
Posted by: Lee | December 21, 2006, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Apparently, the secret meetings that John Kerry and other Democrats have been having with terrorist leaders around the middle east haven’t been working. Perhaps they should say, “We surrender!” a little louder so they understand. Or maybe they already do understand, and this is their response.
Posted by: Clayton Jackson | December 21, 2006, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
As none of the high profile “terrorists” that regularly are arrested in the UK ever have EVER done porridge for being terroistists i think we can assume that this is more hype and properganda – all this sort of thing brings promotions, good tv coverage,bigger police and miltary budgets… all good for Blair’ Big Brother Adgenda
Posted by: Col | December 21, 2006, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
No they dont, They don’t have a clue. Once they finally realize the gravity of the situation they will screame for the military to do something then blame us for not being prepared.
Posted by: Dan | December 21, 2006, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
At this time it appears apprpriate to review the waterboarding issue. Regardless of what some of the squeamish say, it works. What good is it to save one’s sensibilites only to loose several hundred lives?
Posted by: Jack Fuller | December 21, 2006, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Joe, there is no COUNTRY of terrorism. Terrorism is started by ONE person and spread to others through word of mouth and beliefs. You cannot simply destroy any specific place… that’s what makes fighting terrorism so difficult. The only way to cure this problem is to get these people to understand that our way of life is not evil and that we’re not evil people. Once they understand the beauty of life and that there are bad people everywhere, they can begin to stop killing us. However, you cannot just blindly bomb any specific country or set of people.
Terrorism is inevitable, for there will always be Timothy McVeighs in the world. Better education and understanding will prevent it on a larger scale.
Posted by: Travis | December 21, 2006, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Surely Richard in the above posted comment will acknowledge that if we had gone after Osama Bin Laden like we meant it instead of Dubya indulging his little whim of getting back at Iraq, maybe we would all be having a more secure Xmas and fewer worries about terrorists
Posted by: Lisa | December 21, 2006, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Time for Britain to stop letting these people in as immigrants in the first place.
Posted by: a | December 21, 2006, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
What would “dropping a bomb” do to people brainwashed into thinking that suicide is honorable? It will only enrage them more. We don’t need need more martyrs, but we do need some proper diplomacy, and we need people better suited for such discussions.
If the whole world thinks one thing, and a few pig-headed people (ie: Republicans,) with their hands in each other’s pockets desperately try to convince us that they are right through slogans that ruin perfectly good phrases (I shall never use the term “the way foward” again without an acrid taste forming in my mouth,) the rest of the world should create a STRONGER United Nations, or even a new world government and put an end to this squabbling over land that won’t be worth anything once we use up the resources that we are supposedly not after.
Ride a bicycle, people. You’ll save on the gym fees, too.
Posted by: Michele | December 21, 2006, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
We who support the War on Terror are now called fear mongers by liberal members of the media and congress. Alan Colmes, Harry Reid, even Bill Clinton are three such types I can name from memory.
Do these Americans really think that the Bush Administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks? What about the Subway bombing in London or the commuter train carnage in Madrid? Folks, you are suicidally insane if you think sponsors of terrorism like Iran can be reasoned with in dialog. The moment the good, civilized world begins negotiations with evil, barbaric regimes is when Evil has won and Good has been diminished – forever! The Iraq Study Group report is thankfully DOA.
Posted by: Chuck Sink | December 21, 2006, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Joe:
I’m all for the fight on terrorism but what would committing genocide by dropping a nuke accomplish except making us look like ruthless killers? There are good people in these countries that want to feed their families. We are going to be hit again… and again…. and again. We just need to continue to be vigilant and not let the actions of a few outweigh the many good.
Posted by: Chris G | December 21, 2006, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Perhaps it is time that the British rethink their open borders/multiculturism regarding Islam. This is going to get much worse before it gets better.
Posted by: Jon R | December 21, 2006, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I think this calls for another study group…after all, Pakistan was not included as one of the countries to try to talk to. Maybe they are feeling left out and not as important as Syria and Iran. I’m with Joe and Richard-QUIT FOOLING AROUND BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!
Posted by: Karyn | December 21, 2006, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I agree. Where should we bomb first?
Posted by: Chris | December 21, 2006, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
God forbid an attack actually occurs, I predict a nanosecond of delay in the world press before American foreign policy and Israel are trumpeted as its cause.
Posted by: MARK C | December 21, 2006, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Surely if we took the time to ubderstand their feelings….
Posted by: d00d | December 21, 2006, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
That’s the spirit! Kill ‘em all, right? Nothing says “We’re bringing you democracy” like bombing the hell out of the afflicted country.
“As the 9-11 indicated…”
Is this president Bush secretly posting as Joe?
Posted by: Denise | December 21, 2006, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Will the USA have to save Europe AGAIN??? Didn’t anyone learn ANYTHING from WW1 and WW2?
Posted by: John | December 21, 2006, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
To Joe:
So where do we drop this bomb to cure everything?
Posted by: MJ | December 21, 2006, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
By now it should be clear to everyone that the west is at war with radical Islam, a war that we did not start. They simply despise us because of our beliefs and are hell bent on converting or killing us all. There will be many innocent deaths on both sides of this war and it will last many years. It will only stop when “good Muslims” rout out the evil ones and demand that they stop! Unfortunately the end is not in sight. Happy Hana-rama-kwans-mass.
Posted by: Bradley | December 21, 2006, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
We will, soon, awaken. When we do, Allah will sit with many martyrs.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2006, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Well, “Joe”, where do you suggest we drop the Bomb? Is there any place in particular that dropping a nuke on would make the terrorists stop what they’re doing? Maybe Mecca? Yeah, that’s it! We’ll destroy Mecca, and then the terrorists will stop, because they’ll worry that we’ll… uhm… bomb Mecca again.
Posted by: Marco | December 21, 2006, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
I think there will be an attack, but not by Jan. 1. It will be when we least expect it. In any case, you should stock up on the following items: Food, Water, Slim Jims (AKA Slim Lamonts), Beer (for Steve), and Bottle Rockets. If anyone comes into my yard, you’ll get hit with a bottle rocket. Peace Out Yo.
Posted by: Big Jim | December 21, 2006, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
the liberals are attacking the christians,,, just wait till the moslems attack the liberals.. its just a matter of time…
wakeup liberals.. you should be helping the christians.
Posted by: mac | December 21, 2006, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Drop the bomb where, Joe? On London? I think folks would take that kind of actoin if all the bad guys were in one place and we knew where that was.
Posted by: tthecat | December 21, 2006, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
These are small battles won in the course of a lost war. American and Brittish moral decay are bringing on God’s judgement. If you read the most accurate history book in the world, aka The Holy Bible, you will find story after story of the Israelites declining faithfulness to God’s commands, and God consequently raising up a foe to bring judgement on his unfaithful people. If we do not know history we are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by: dw | December 21, 2006, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
I agree with Joe.
In WW2 we fought fanatics that were not afraid of death (Japan). Only when the cause they were fighting for (country and emperor) faced imminent destruction did they surrender.
This is no different, but the cause is Islam, and an Islamic super-state. The only solution I can see is a nuclear weapon on one of Islam’s holiest sites, and a promise to finish the job including Mecca and Medina.
Posted by: Matt | December 21, 2006, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
These are small battles won in the course of a lost war. American and Brittish moral decay are bringing on God’s judgement. If you read the most accurate history book in the world, aka The Holy Bible, you will find story after story of the Israelites declining faithfulness to God’s commands, and God consequently raising up a foe to bring judgement on his unfaithful people. If we do not know history we are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by: dw | December 21, 2006, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Are you guys out of your mind?
A nuclear attack? On what? Who?
We’d love to kill the terrorists if we knew who they were.
Posted by: Liam | December 21, 2006, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
With a bag over our heads, we march happily into the future unable to see further than our noses.
Until the press/mass media wakes up and sees the common threat we all face as being very real and imminent, we shall continue to be essnetially defenseless against an implacable, vicous enemy driven by a hateful ideology … and we shall accordingly remain in grave peril.
One must ask why there is no clarion-call to the agressive, unified self-defense our innocent and blameless citizenry.
Our internal politcal differences and a perverse self-hatred have renedered us mostly helplessly ineffective in our own defense.
Our enemies see this a religious war and they will give no-quarter; while we ignore that reality and blame ourselves for their hatred. It’s PREPOSTEROUS!!!
Posted by: Phantom | December 21, 2006, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Or, we could get ourselves off of mideast oil and get our troops out of there. Oh wait, that would require responsibility on our part. We’re mad consumers, so there’s no way that’s going to happen, or is there?
And ANWR provides a maximum of 18 months of oil, according to the Alaska oil lobby. So we can’t drill our way out of this mess.
Alternative energy, anyone? Impeachment, anyone?
Posted by: Neil Black | December 21, 2006, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
You can not “fight” terror with rule of law. You cannot fear killing “innocents” when in fact there are none. You must simply defeat them completely and entirely by eliminating the threat altogether. And all the better if in scale and terms that will dissuade any survivors. Do you think if they had the bomb on 9-11 they would not have used it? They demonstrated that they will use any means possible to achieve as much damage as possible. When (not if, we are past that)they have atomic means, they will most assuredly use it.
Posted by: nick | December 21, 2006, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Maybe its time we drop the bomb and show them that we mean business when it comes to terrorism.
There’s nothing like dropping to the level of terrorists by nuking their civilian populations. That will make all the remaining Middle Eastern populations love us all the more.
A rational change in policies in the world in general and the Mid-East in particular, combined with multilateral intelligence sharing and law enforcement operations would do more to keep us all safe than any 10 nuclear weapons. And with recent scientific studies showing that even a “small” nuclear exchange would precipitate significant, world-wide climate change, it would be much better for the whole world.
Posted by: Charles2 | December 21, 2006, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Joe, the problem is that this is a very different war… first off, using nuclear weapons would not end the terrorist threat. Terrorists have a low density in any population… even in a known stronghold, killing a few terrorists with WMD would kill hundreds of thousands of neutrals or even friendlies. The brutality of such an act would prove what terrorists say about us, and many more would join ranks with them. From that stand-point only, I’m astonished you seriously consider that.
Not to mention the moral and ethical questions of using nuclear weapons, which you seem to be just fine breaking.
Posted by: Brandon | December 21, 2006, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Ok, have to ask, WHERE do you drop the bomb? On london? Me thinks that might be a bit stupid. How about on Iraq. Um, no…. a nuke would only hurt our forces and ci vilians more then anyone else. So maybe afghanistan. Nope, again our forces and civilians. Bombs are not the answer for terrorism. Did England bomb Ireland? (well, ok, england did do a lot of very bad things to Ireland, but they never droped a nuke…)
sadly there’s no easy solution. Which means americans will be forced to think up new responses then just, KILL them.
Course if we americans had stayed in afghanistan instead of diverting our troops to iraq this would not be such a big problem. But hey, we’re cowboys, we don’t like to stay and clean up, get in get out, mission acomplished and all that.
*sigh*
Posted by: Drop a bomb | December 21, 2006, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
I like the drop the bomb idea. Just to be fair though, I would give people 72 hours to clear out of Western Pakistan and Eastern Afganistan. Then I would drop a few tactical nukes on them. Let’s stir up the hornets nest and stop assuming that these animals think like we do. All they understand is death and war. I would think of outlawing Islam also.
Posted by: Russ | December 21, 2006, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
When is the world going to realize the problem militant/radical Islam presents? I do believe it is the biggest threat since Nazism. I believe twenty or thirty years down the road I will be proven correct on my assessment..maybe even earlier. These people only understand one thing..Kill every Non-Muslim. Sad but true statement.
Posted by: Steve | December 21, 2006, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
“Drop the bomb” on who or what exactly? Drop the bomb on Pakistan, and see what happens with their nukes? Or maybe some other random Muslim country? Or maybe London itself, since that’s where this particular batch of crazies is at the moment?
You see the potential problems with all of these targets?
Posted by: Jeff in Texas | December 21, 2006, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Yeah. Bomb thousands of innocents. That’ll hurt their recruiting and put and end to terrorism!
Posted by: carol | December 21, 2006, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
political correctness be damned..
profiling fills a purpose here..
terror attacks aren’t done by middle
aged white women,they are primarily
carried out by 18-35 year old men/
women of middle eastern descent,some
from the south pacific rim,phillipines,indonesia,pick a
fundamentalist,radical islamic hotbed
country and you most likely will find
al qaeda sympathizers or members
willing to carry out terrorist
plans…don’t wimp out like the u.s. and give in to whining a.c.l.u
organizations or whining islamic organizations bemoaning the “racist” profiling that goes on against their people…citizens of
the world need to be protected from
radical religous zealots who ,if
they can’t convert people,will kill
them
Posted by: mark | December 21, 2006, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Maybe if liberals were running the war we would have not attacked the wrong country (e.g. Iraq) and perhaps we’d have the ability to attack the real problem (e.g. Iran). But its nice to see the “non-liberals” have everything under control…
Posted by: Joshua | December 21, 2006, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Violence will not stop violence. Phrases like “Drop the bomb” and “kill them” should make the American public (not to mention the World ) sick. If you “men” want more violence, why don’t you volunteer yourselves to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Posted by: Stop the Violence | December 21, 2006, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
It would be nice if all of the terrorists were in one place Joe, then your idea would work. Notice I wrote terrorists, they’re not insurgants they’re terrorists. Unfortunatly the terrorists are spread out across the globe and hiding like cowards. So we have a long fight on our hands and we just need to stay the course and keep killing them in Iraq, Afghanastan, Pakistan etc… Like your attitude though
Posted by: FloridaChowd | December 21, 2006, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
DROPPING THE BOMB?? ON THESE PEOPLE IS NOT THE ANSWER. IT WOULD BE IN A CONVENTIONAL WAR, HOWEVER THESE PEOPLE (MUSLIM EXTREMIST)SEE DYING IN THE CAUSE OF ALLAH AS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING THEY ASPIRE TO DO. SO KILLING THESE PEOPLE ONLY GIVE THEM WHAT THEY STRIVE FOR. THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT THE WAR ON TERROR IS TO CUT THESE PEOPLE OFF. NO MORE AID OF ANY KIND, NO FOOD, NO MONEY, NO MEDICINE…GIVE COUNTRIES THAT CAN NOT CLEAN UP THERE COUNTRY AND IMPRISON THESE PEOPLE. THEN CLOSE THE BOARDERS TO IMMIGRANTS FROM THESE COUNTRIES.
Posted by: CATHY | December 21, 2006, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
I hope the Liberals in this country are going to wake up soon. It is sick that they didn’t wake up after 9-11. I’m sorry, but I think it will take thousands of more dead non-Muslims before Liberals will start taking this threat seriously. How disgusting is that?
Posted by: Kevin | December 21, 2006, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Eye for Eye
If they nuke a European city or US city ,let us nuke Al Madinah or Makkah(Meccia)
We can call thing even
But I think things would ony get worst if that happen
Posted by: David | December 21, 2006, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Sadly, only more carnage from muslim extremists can wake up those who believe in a peaceful solution to the Islamist problem.
If the muslim nations of the world cannot reign terrorists and Sadr-like militias in, then the west should topple their regimes and usher in an era of militant colonialism whereby we don’t care about winning hearts and minds but simply install governments to our liking.
Posted by: mrx | December 21, 2006, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Well then … so much for “Peace on Earth … Good will towards men”. I guess we’ve gone beyond the point of reason and onto global thuggery if we take Joe’s advice and nuke them. Then how are we different from them? How do you justify destroying innocent lives even if you think it somehow preemptively protects us? And here I thought we were trying to spread civilization.
Posted by: Anthony | December 21, 2006, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
In college you would party and wake-up the next morning and say, “my God, what did I just do”. Well you just brought a bunch of liberal idiots into Washington who think this War on Terror is not our problem. How soon we forget 9-11-2001! Gee, maybe you folks who voted for these non-military supporters were drunk this past November.
Posted by: alex | December 21, 2006, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
But if we just talk to them & tell them that we love them they will love us back.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw | December 21, 2006, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
When is the world going to realize the problem militant/radical Islam presents? I do believe it is the biggest threat since Nazism. I believe twenty or thirty years down the road I will be proven correct on my assessment..maybe even earlier. These people only understand one thing..Kill every Non-Muslim. Sad but true statement.
Posted by: Steve | December 21, 2006, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
I don’t think you can drop a bomb and eradicate terrorism. The problem is that terrorists come from multiple countries and have infiltrated us. We need more spooks and technology to find this scum and destroy them.
Posted by: Jerry | December 21, 2006, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Hey Joe, love the enthusiasm, I’m just as ticked as you are but, drop the bomb where?
Posted by: Dave | December 21, 2006, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Who is this senior official and why are they leaking this if the Brits are still trying to round these people up?!?!
Posted by: K M | December 21, 2006, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
geez, the terrorists better hurry up, its almost Christmas.
Posted by: Bill | December 21, 2006, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
So let’s keep pooring money into Iraq… That’ll make us safe.
Jus’ remeber folks: The war on terror, brought to you by the folks who brought you the war on drugs (and what a stunning success that has been.)
Pax, Steve
Posted by: Steve Blake | December 21, 2006, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Of course it is inevitable! These people are ever so careful about making the law of the land their best defense against detection of their schemes, and standing behind the laws that were never intended to protect those who intend to inflict so much death, destruction, and anguish upon the population. Of course it is inevitable, until other muslims are willing to stand up to the thugs, and do the right thing for humanity, and not a twisted version of their religion.
It they don`t, by their silence they have identified with the terrorists, and will face the burning backlash of the majority of citizens when we have finally had enough, and put an end to it once and for all.
Posted by: daryl Wilson | December 21, 2006, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Time to show the black flag to all terrorists and traitors..in Iraq, or any where else that they’re found
Posted by: dave | December 21, 2006, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Real intelligent responses Richard/Joe. Drop the bomb on “them”? Who is them? The last attack on England was carried out by British Citizens. They would have had to drop the bomb on Leeds, or all of West Yorkshire, not Pakistan or Iran or Iraq.
Posted by: Tim | December 21, 2006, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
can anyone say NUKE EM? then, on the way home nuke iran…..the world would be a better place.
Posted by: justanormalamerican | December 21, 2006, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Actually, maybe it’s time we change our foreign policies. Do you honestly believe they want to kill us because they hate our freedoms? Good lord people….WAKE UP!!! Stop believing ignorance spewed form main stream news. your the only ones being brainwashed. Your hate and ignorance is no better than theirs.
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2006, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
I agree but drop the bomb on who?
Posted by: J.C. | December 21, 2006, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
THANK GOD, we have GW to protect us.
Posted by: Jason | December 21, 2006, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
“Eye for an eye; tooth for a tooth” does not work in a free world. Joe is on the right track-let us terrorize “them”. But-where do we start? There are so many “out there” that want “us” to have what “they” have: misery, hopelessness, gloom. Can they not be happy with what “we” have: democracy, freedom, hope? Is “their” life so much better than “ours”? As much as I would love to “strike first”; I just do not know where without harming those on “our” side. At least I can wish us all: “Peace on Earth and Goodwill Toward Man”.
Posted by: Sean | December 21, 2006, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Unfortunately I must agree with Richard. While the west gets caught up with dealing with militant Islamic forces worldwide in a politically correct manner and are confronted at every turn about our Islamophobia, nobody is stating the obvious. ISLAMOPHOBIA IS WARRANTED. Islam has ceased to be a religious movement and has transcended to become a political movement at odds with Western principles and values. From President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran to Al-Qaeda the message is the same. How long do we listen to these people before we eliminate them from the face of the earth. Make no mistake that they aim to do the same to us. We are living amidst a global Islamic Crusade, which if not confronted head on, will be the end of civilization as we know it. So unless you wish to join this Animal Kingdom we need to fight these WARS on terms which we can win.
Posted by: Christopher London | December 21, 2006, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
but why would we want to attack them before they attack us? that would only be common sense, something liberals do not understand.
Posted by: Adam | December 21, 2006, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
General Montgomery was in charge of subduing the Muslim uprising in the Philipines, back in the early 1900′s. He made it clear that the Army’s bullets were dipped in pigs blood. Of course, this would prevent them from reaching Allah, since they would be defiled by the blood. Things got real quiet after that.
There will be a nuclear or bio attack in this country with in the next 3 to 5 years. It all depends who wins the White House, and if the military is given ordinance-free clearance to do what is needed, instead of letting the lawyers fight the war. That’s how we lost Vietnam and that is how Iraq will be lost.
Posted by: Alex | December 21, 2006, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Vanquish your enemies in order to have true peace and victory. Anything else falls short.
Posted by: richard | December 21, 2006, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Joe posts a recommendation that we drop a bomb. On which nation?
Posted by: Mark Petts | December 21, 2006, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Why aren’t the liberals out there trying to engage these terrorists in tea and biscuits? Can’t we just get along? Well, the answer is no.
Not all Muslim are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim. Humm! Is there a connection here? Yes.
I call for profiling Middle Eastern citizens, stricter immigration standards for people from the Middle East and for a policy of shoot first, ask questions second, aplogize third and compensate when we go wrong fourth.
Better 1 dead terrorist than 12 injured British civilians.
Posted by: Jose | December 21, 2006, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Time to kill them all, and let god sort it out.
Posted by: Bob | December 21, 2006, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
I think everyone would prefer no war, use negotiation, etc, but there are people this world with which negotiations will never, ever, ever, work. The end of a war cannot be negotiated. It must be won. If the USA backs out now, the war is not over, it’s just on hold until the next time the media and the masses are forced to face reality and step up the awesome responsibility that the last superpower on the planet holds.
Posted by: troy | December 21, 2006, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
We should really sit down and talk with these people. They feel like they are outside of our society, and we need to welcome them. Look at the Blacks in America. Years ago, they were second class citizens, and now, it’s very likely that a black man will run for president.
GW should set his massive ego aside and reach out to Osama Bin Ladin and the Iranian president.
Rosie O’Donnell was right when she said that these “terrorists” are mothers and fathers just like us. We need to find a common ground.
Posted by: Lloyd Grant | December 21, 2006, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Time to consider internment camps and an end to immigration from the Middle East
Posted by: Ryan | December 21, 2006, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Drop a bomb??? On who, the vast majority of Arabs, who do not engage in terrorism? THIS ISN’T WWII, get it through your skulls, this is a different war and isn’t going to be solved by nuking anyone…
Posted by: Chad | December 21, 2006, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
So enlighten us, Joe, and tell us where you would drop that bomb of yours — the one that you think would make all those fanatics dreaming of “martyrdom” at the hands of “infidels” think twice about attacking Western targets? Assuming for a second that a preemptive nuclear attack wouldn’t be playing right into the hands of the terrorists, who exactly would you bomb? Would you nuke Tehran, Damascus or Karachi, and if so, what about the millions of people living in those places who also abhor terrorism? Sure, you might knock off a few bad guys (which, of course, would happen if you nuked ANY city in the world) but at what cost? Killing innocent civilians is what terrorists do, remember? Justice-bound freedom-lovers such as yourself might not want to go down that road. Or would you nuke the mountaintops and forests in the Afghan-Pakistan frontier? You’d kill a lot of trees and rearrange a few mountaintops, but it’s doubtful you’d make much of a dent in any terrorist infrastructure as decentralized as al-Qaida. I know it’s hard to come to terms with this, but the Cold War is long over, and throwing around knee-jerk “nuke them all” nonsense won’t solve the world’s problems. But, yeah, it sure is a lot easier than actually formulating a real plan to confront those who would do us harm.
Posted by: T. | December 21, 2006, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
All we have to do is make the comparison between the way the two cultures treat each other’s “Holy Days”.
We refrain from military activity whenever possible during Ramadan, the extremist Muslims initiate more attacks during Christian Holidays.
Posted by: Gerbeel Haamster | December 21, 2006, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Maybe it’s time to take out some of their Holy sites when they commit an act of terror.
Posted by: Tom | December 21, 2006, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
God Bless England in this time of uncertainty
Posted by: Maverick | December 21, 2006, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
They have been saying they are going to kill us. What part of that do we not understand. Maybe Nancy and Baker can go and talk with them, I am sure that will make a differanc. The press has done a good job of blaming Bush, maybe when we are attacked or wiped off the face of the earth like they say maybe then the press will stop blaming the Americans.
Posted by: Deirdre Hurd | December 21, 2006, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
This story is being used as a “Cover” from reporting on the just released report of how Sandy Burger (former Clinton Administration National Security Advisor) stoled classified documents from the National Archives in 2003. That he hid “our” classified documents under trailors and retrieved them later; all in an attempt to protect the Bill Clinton legacy.
Posted by: RaY Kohn | December 21, 2006, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Granting these islamo fascist pigs civil liberties will be the downfall of our superior society. It’s time we not only tourture and kill would be suicide bombers without hesitation, it’s time we go after their families and defile everything that is sacred to them.
Posted by: Greg | December 21, 2006, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Who cares? America should be put 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Work us up into frenzy over the Brit’s problems? I bet you they don’t have a Border which they refuse to enforce (Mexican). Terror in Britian is the least of our worries! Our southern border is a much bigger problem. The North American Security and Prosperity agreement in which President Bush signed with Paul Martin and Vicente Fox and WITHOUT congressional approval (%99 percent of Congress people claim not to know about it)is a much bigger problem. I don’t know why big media types like ABC are not covering this.
Posted by: Jay | December 21, 2006, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Richard, who is even suggesting negotiations with al qeada? What a straw man. Wow, how quickly you go to blaming the liberals. Who you at war with, Richard? Terrorists, or America?
Posted by: Will | December 21, 2006, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I agree with Richard and Joe, but take it one step further. Do not detain these terrorists and do not fill the prisons to overflowing with them. Capture them, interrogate them, then kill them. They forfeited any concept of civil rights when they began this war against the West and targeted unarmed civilians. No Muslim burials – take the bodies out and burn them with the rest of the garbage. they want to die for their cause? Hey, I would be happy to accommodate them. Bullets are still fairly cheap here in the US.
Posted by: Gene | December 21, 2006, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Bring back carpet bombing…in WW2 it worked because it killed everyone equally…you wouldn’t have the local scum trying to hide their thug “brothers”.
Posted by: John Q. | December 21, 2006, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
You know how you show them we’re serious. Drop a big ol’ nuke on Mecca. That’ll show the bastards that we’re sick of putting up with their jihads and attacks against innocent people. We need to be like the Romans at the end of the 3rd Punic War. Let us sow some salt in their fields and subjugate them
Posted by: DarEpsilon | December 21, 2006, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
How many Al Qaeda attacks and deaths is it going to take before the west wakes up and takes the threat of militant islam seriously. We are in a fight for our freedom and way of life.
Posted by: Roy T | December 21, 2006, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Who will you bomb? London? These are British citizens involved! There are now militant Muslims all over the world. That “fighting them over there” crap is just that…dropping a bomb on someone somewhere will not end the strategy of terrorism.
Posted by: Barbara Young | December 21, 2006, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
How do they know it?
Those statesments are very suspicious:
“It is not a matter of if there will be an attack, but how bad the attack will be,”
“It will be a miracle if there isn’t a terror attack over the holidays in London,”
Maybe it means that they are planning a false flag terror attack. There’s no other explanation unless they are clairvoyants.
Posted by: Pepe | December 21, 2006, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Wow: You folks are so politically incorrect! Guess what, ridding the planet of this scum that plans to change Western Civilization and plans to kill all of us makes sense only if you are a flaming liberal. I’ll push the button on Iran today!
Posted by: Jim | December 21, 2006, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
so we should attack a civilian population with nuclear weapons?!? commit the worst war crime in history? and you think that will STOP the extremist islamic terrorism? I hope others do not share your opinion sir, as the is one of the many ways we could make the situation unimaginably worse.
Posted by: bb | December 21, 2006, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Drop the bomb on what? A terror cell in suburban London?
Posted by: What The | December 21, 2006, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
I agree with Joe. The Bible says that Damascus will become a city of ruins in the last days. When that happens, we’ll know we’re in them without doubt. Wars and Rumors of Wars, Perplexity at the Roaring Waves (Tsunamis),Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Pestilences, etc. have all been happening at an increased pace for the last decade but more in the last few years. These are the Birth pangs mentioned in the Bible.
The AC will rise soon, if he hasn’t already.
Also, watch for the EU’s Javier Solana and the Alliance of Civilizations (AOC) to end religion in the world by implementing Recommendation 666, after the next attack that may cause enough chaos needed for the AC to step up.
Hang on folks, things are just getting interesting.
Posted by: Frank | December 21, 2006, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
We should pull out of Iraq because if we do the terrorists will leave us alone. We need to concentrate on more important issues such as gay marriage, stem cell research and the Miss USA pageant. Of course I am kidding.
Posted by: Tom | December 21, 2006, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
More ridiculous propoganda to scare the world into thinking we are under attack from terrorists. I wonder what CIA or MI5 operative will be carrying out this “attack”.
Posted by: dan | December 21, 2006, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
If it happens, will it FINALLY convince the Brits to end the problem? Hint. Political Correctness is the excuse for not dealing with the problem.
Posted by: franklin garlow | December 21, 2006, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Joe, you state “maybe we should drop the bomb and show them that ‘we’ mean business”.
On whom exactly should we ‘drop the bomb’ and who is the ‘we’ to which you are referring?
Posted by: AJ | December 21, 2006, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Good idea Joe. Should we start bombing in London first, since the suspected terrorists are in a cell there. Maybe you meant to bomb Saudi Arabia since that is where the 9/11 attackers came from. Considering how well bombing is going in Iraq, I think you are really on to something big here. Maybe we could drop the bomb on Pakistan, they seem to be breeding a lot of terrorists. I also heard that there are a lot of terrorists all over the US. Maybe we should drop that bomb on them right here at home. That’ll show em we mean business. Who needs any old intelligence. Let’s drop a big old dirty bomb right in your backyard and show them we’re not going to take their threats anymore. We’ll just do it to ourselves. That’ll really show those terrorists whose boss.
Posted by: DTK | December 21, 2006, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Drop the bomb? Are you serious?
Yes, brilliant, lets compromise our safety, the safety of innocents and the environment, only to give them more material to work with, more reason to insist upon our supposed “evils”. They are not a country, like Japan was in WW2. Furthermore, in WW2, Japan was already weakened and on the verge of surrender, perhaps, anyway. The terrorists are a multinational collaboration of radicals with no true home country, they’re everywhere. Where then would you propose “dropping the bomb”? We don’t know where they are, and just throwing nuclear radiation at Pakistan randomly would be a very grave mistake indeed.
Posted by: Symphony | December 21, 2006, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
It’s too late for Britain and Europe when the most popular name for a newborn in the UK is now MOHAMMAD. We are making the same mistake in the US with our southern border. We are weak and deserve what we get although it is our children that will suffer the most for our pathetic cowardice.
Posted by: jim | December 21, 2006, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Thank you Richard and Joe! We need to take the gloves off and fight these animals the way they fight us. It seems Americans have lost their spine. I don’t think Europeans ever had one. But adhering to the international rules of war and torture put us at an immediate disadvantage. I say we make it known, that one more attack will result in the destruction of their Grand Mosque in Mecca. And if all else fails, make the entire region a great big sandbox (won’t be too hard) and name it America 2.
Posted by: Chris | December 21, 2006, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
hell yes, drop the bomb!! but, where?
Posted by: christian | December 21, 2006, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Joe, Richard,
Yeah, because our current military action, our “shock and awe” have been so effective, let’s show more of the same. Let’s kill more. Yeah, that will do the trick.
Posted by: Dan | December 21, 2006, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I agree with Joe. Back out all the coalition troops. Get the contractors out. Then drop the fat boy. It’s tough to hear “Alla Akbar” through explosions.
Posted by: Steve | December 21, 2006, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
It is obvious that we can not negotiate with these people, something needs to be done and quickly or we are going to lose this battle. I still do not understand why we can not just bomb the heck out of them and be done with it!
Posted by: Breanne | December 21, 2006, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Drop the bomb where?
Posted by: Scott | December 21, 2006, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
What’s wrong with you people? Dropping an atom bomb on (unspecified target) is going to end terrorism? Upon whom, shall I ask, would you recommend dropping said bomb? The entire Middle East? England? The U.S.? The mindset of a certain segment of people in this country is downright scary. Will you please just go away when Bush leaves office? Sooner perhaps?
Posted by: Jason | December 21, 2006, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Thank god for you Brits that still think like Churchill instead of Chamberlain, You give the future of the civilized world the hope it desperately needs
Posted by: Jay in Florida | December 21, 2006, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Will this be a Christmas present from the “religion of peace”? Wake up Europe!
Posted by: Mark | December 21, 2006, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Brilliant. Yes. Let’s drop the bomb on them. Right on the biggest city in…uh…er…Terrorismistan!
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2006, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
I am afraid that I must agree with Richard and Joe. We may have no choice but to utilize our Nuclear technology before it is used against us. While many in the west and those on the left are pre-occupied with treating the growing Islamic threat and Muslims in a politically correct manner, many leaders in their culture have made clear that the continued proliferation of Islam and the destruction of Western Powers is the ultimate aim. In my estimation, ISLAM has ceased to be simply a religion but has morphed into a political movement who’s aims are the destruction of civilization as we know it. Al-Qaeda to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad have made their aims all too clear. Those who are so singularly pre-occupied with dismantling the authority and legitimacy of President Bush may find that he is the only one to see the face of our enemy in very clear terms.
Posted by: Christopher London | December 21, 2006, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Well, what do the liberal pundits have to say about this ,let me guess; Get out of Iraq? listen and understand why these people have such homicidal tendencies ? How about the liberal finally pulling the liberal head out of the liberal rearend so that the liberal can grab a weapon or a post to help his/her countrymen defend the rest of us and destroy this evil. If the liberal chooses to be suicidal in they’re thinking, then sit in corner and be quiet. The rest of us have a obligation to protect ourselves our children and do what needs be done so that “God willing” the remainder of us will not have look over our shoulder when we walk into a Church,synagoge, Mosque,shopping mall, resturant, airport, or train station.
Merry Christmas and may God bless those who fight the the good fight
Posted by: Ken | December 21, 2006, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Yah Joe… just drop it, right in central London. Jackass.
Posted by: Jake | December 21, 2006, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Richard-
Surely the liberals understand the “good” people of the world must prevail. Negotiations with these brainwashed thugs is not the answer. Kill them!!!!!!!!
Twenty Saudis kill 3,000 people from all over the world, not just Americans, on 9/11, so we attack a third, unrelated country and kill 600,000 people. So, just who are the brainwashed thugs and who are the “good” people??
Posted by: KJ | December 21, 2006, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
And just who do you bomb.
Posted by: tom | December 21, 2006, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
As in WW2, we are dealing with irrational fanatics. There is no such thing as honest negotiation with them. They only enter into talks to delay our abilities to protect ourselves against their plots. There are only two ways to deal with such cultures: isolate them; or, eliminate them. As a rational human being who wants to see his grandchildren grow up without living under a shadow of fear, I prefer the latter option.
If I were President Bush, my parting gift to the American people would be the total destruction of Damascus, Tehran, and Pyongyang … immediately, without warning, and without apology.
Let the rest of the world shun us, boycott us, scream at us. In a few months, they’ll thank us, in a few years, they’ll praise us unceasingly.
In the meantime, the US will again learn how to become self-sufficient in manufacturing and supply, and the rest of the world will realize how much it depends on our food supply and banking resources.
God bless America, God help the rest!
Posted by: R W | December 21, 2006, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
What a couple of geniuses we have here.
You think these people are afraid of military might?
They’re playing the classic guerrilla game, and you want to respond by killing a whole country.
Boy, there’s no way THAT’ll backfire.
Posted by: J Darcy | December 21, 2006, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
We have all beed waiting for it, and it has always been a matter of time. Holiday season? I don’t know.
Posted by: Brian | December 21, 2006, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Joe, your drop the bomb plan has one little flaw – in WW2, we were the ones with the bomb. Now they have it as well.
Posted by: Jon | December 21, 2006, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
This isn’t WWII. We are not fighting Christian, Buddhists, and Shinto’s, who’s basic moral teachings, are based on how well they treat others and their surroundings. Al Qaeda doesn’t think like that. These people teach hate and kill those that don’t agree with them.
Drastic actions will begat drastic action. We should not add fuel to the fire in this way! What we should do is affect the people that have influence over al Qaeda and their like in their pocket books. Money is the life line to al Qaeda.
The U.S. should become an alternative fuel country such as Brazil. If we were not so dependant on foreign oil then there would not be money enough to fund some cult’s “religious war.”
But before we do that we have to get the nation builder, W., out of office, and get big oil influence and their lobbyists out of Washington, and make some serious strides toward alternative fuels.
Stop the flow of money and things will change drastically.
And to think, al Qaeda is using the money I spent at the gas station to blow up my fellow citizens of the world.
Posted by: Jon | December 21, 2006, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
To the Cut and Run Michael Moore fans. Just because people aren’t shooting at each other doesn’t mean there is peace.
Posted by: Doug | December 21, 2006, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I don’t see what good dropping a nuclear bomb on a desert will do. I think it’s time to sit down and talk with these people. We need to work out our differences. There’s one thing I’ve learned in life is you can sit down and talk through any conflict.
This testosterone filled rage has no place in today’s society.
Give peace a chance.
Posted by: Lloyd Grant | December 21, 2006, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Bring back all the soldiers from Iraq. Wait a month. Drop a nuke on Baghdad and Tehran and be done with it.
Posted by: Tim | December 21, 2006, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
This is where “tolerance” will get you, someone blowing themselves up and killing others as a little Christmas present from Allah. The Muslims are posing a direct threat to the British local and national security, but instead of eliminating the threat, they are doing nothing and making it easier for them to get away with it. How backward and ridiculous has government and public policy become? What should be done about the Muslim problem?
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2006, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
It’s time we seriously consider removing the threats to homeland security. And by this I mean removing Arab/muslim people from our country who are not citizens. NO MORE STUDENT VISAS. Then we need to shore up our borders. And finally we need to turn one of the main terrorist supporting countries into glass. A couple good sized bombs will melt all that sand into glass. The day after that we call it a warning. Only then will we have their ears.
Posted by: BL | December 21, 2006, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Islam…the religion of Peace…..
Posted by: chrisw | December 21, 2006, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Do you have a specific location or locations that you propose we nuke, or do you just advocate turning the whole Middle East and central portion of Asia (minus Israel, of course)into a field of black glass?
Using a multi-million dollar warhead to bomb some camp or cave in the middle of nowhere sounds like an excellent and efficient use of our nation’s resources.
In all seriousness,the only way you’re going to make any real dent in an organization like al Qaeda is by infiltrating it and destroying it from the inside. Easier said than done, yes, I realize, but throwing all the technology in the world at the problem sure as hell won’t make it go away.
Posted by: Chris | December 21, 2006, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
I don’t think we should just go ahead and drop the bomb on them – who would we hit? The whole middle east. Millions of innocent people would be killed. Dropping one big bomb is too simple of an answer for a complicated problem. In order to survive we are going to have to fight better on a lot of different levels. Intelligence, immigration, foreign policy and the military are all areas where we need to focus on.
Posted by: Marc | December 21, 2006, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Why do people always want to treat symptons but not causes???
Posted by: Jay West | December 21, 2006, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
“Kill the Body; and the Head will die” – Joe Frazier
Posted by: Jason | December 21, 2006, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Kill them?? Bomb them?? And that makes us “good” people different HOW?
I know the good old USA would be in a much better position in this regard if our public officials had backbones when it comes to religion – they’ve mike toasted us down to politically correct whatevers, so where’s the line drawn now?
Posted by: anne danos | December 21, 2006, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Is anyone foolish enough to think that we won’t be next? Merry Christmas.
Posted by: john | December 21, 2006, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Richard – drop the bomb on “them”? Who are “they”? Where do “they” live? You condone killing innocent people to get a few bad ones? You sir ar as bad as “they” are.
Don’t you dare bring 9/11 up in this light. Let those people that perished in that attack rest in peace. There have been no attacks on US soil in connection with terrorism. It’s a non issue.
And it’s called a “dirty” bomb, not a dirt bomb.
Posted by: Charlie | December 21, 2006, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Nuke em all…Let Allah sort them out!
I agree, dropping a bomb would end a lot just like in WWII, we have already become complacent after 9/11…talking with terrorist like the bleeding hearts want to do will just not work, unless someone close to them gets killed in an attack. Ronald Reagan would NOT have put up this BS, damn shame he’s gone =/
Posted by: Michelle | December 21, 2006, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Anti-Americanism is so strong in the UK that in some weird way they will blame the USA.
The wealth generated by oil in the middle east supplies blood money to muslim families when one of their children blow themselves and others up. Find an alternative to oil and the money will dry up. With that at least some of the motivation should dry up as well.
Posted by: Kathleen H. | December 21, 2006, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Drop the bomb where? on who? Isn’t that precisely the problem with terrorism. The so-called Bush Doctrine of attacking terrorism at it root and before it gets to us, was right on, until foolishly blown on Iraq.
Posted by: Cedar1 | December 21, 2006, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Maybe it will finally convince Europeans that the “live and let live” approach with radical Muslims among them doesn’t work.
Posted by: kylecoppola | December 21, 2006, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
One big bomb is too simple of an answer for a complicated problem. Who do we bomb anyways? The Middle East? And kill millions of innocent people. In order for us to survive (i do think we are in a fight for the survival of our country) we are going to have to fight better on a lot of different levels. Immigration, intelligence gathering, foreign affairs (Iran) and the military are all areas that need more focus.
Posted by: Marc | December 21, 2006, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
As frustrating as it is that the West fails understand that we are fighting for the survival of everything we hold dear, I do not believe we can nuke them first. However, if the islamic fascists were to use a “dirty” bomb on any western city, I say that we unleash a payload that would of made the U.S.S.R. very afraid.
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
I love you right-wing nuts! “Kill THEM” “drop the bomb and show THEM”. Who exactly is this that we supposed to kill and bomb? One of the greatest weapons terrorists have is the fact that they are generally members of loosely-based groups with almost no central authoritative body. So which Middle-Eastern country do you suggest we arbitrarily bomb? I’m not saying we should sit back and do nothing, but saying every person of Arab descent should be killed would be hilarious if it weren’t so serious and devastating.
All the people who agree with those first two comments:
Hide in your bunker and stockpile weapons, while the rest of us live life for you, and also try to find a logical solution to this enormous problem.
Posted by: ken | December 21, 2006, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Nuke who, Joe? The plotters? In London? And kill millions of British? Are you crazy? You don’t even understand who it is you hate. Bombing Pakistan, even, wouldn’t stop these guys from following through on their plot, any more than toppling the Taliban or capturing Saddam Hussein did. These people are not governments, they are a movement. They are a fanatical religious movement, one of two who are playing you for a fool.
Those of us who are not predisposed to believe the mythologies that both Islamic fascists and neoconservatives use to manipulate us will understand that both groups have duped their followers into such shamefully senseless and endless violence.
Posted by: goodog | December 21, 2006, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
i’m wondering just who we should drop “the bomb” on? these terrorists represent no country and more importantly, appear to be at war with almost every government in the world. my guess is that dropping “the bomb” would play right into their hands.
Posted by: ralph freejole | December 21, 2006, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
What do you expect when you open your country’s doors to millions of Muslims and then give them free reign to preach hatred?
Posted by: Gene | December 21, 2006, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Proof once again that Liberalism is a mental disorder! Political Correctness killed the country! We could have ended this thing a long time ago. I say call the U.S. and have them fire up the enola gay, and rain it down on their parade!
Posted by: jim | December 21, 2006, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
I am concerned about the rise of nuclear powers in the mid east. I can only go on the words of the Iranian President that he intends to use the bomb once he gets it. Just a thought… do we wait to receive the gift of nuclear destruction from Iran or one of it’s allies, or is it better to give before we receive such a gift. Personally, I think we should drop as many nukes as necessary to improve the thinking of all that believe we are a paper tiger waiting for a little catnip.
Posted by: Ben | December 21, 2006, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
The ultimate problem with fighting “terrorists” is whom do you bomb? And when if bomb that place, and kill likely innocents in the process, who is now the bad guy?
This cycle of violence is troubling, and there seem to be no good answers. The best long-term answer is to try to understand where all sides are coming from and try to reach conditions where people no longer feel the need to strap themseles full of explosives and kill others.
This is fighting the hydra – we will never kill them all.The only way we win is to convince them not to fight, and those who feel oppressed with surely fight. While military strength and showing you are willing to answer is part of the solution, it is not how we will ultimately decide this in our favor.
Posted by: Scott Finklestein | December 21, 2006, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Where, exactly, would you drop said bomb?
Pakistan? The government there is trying to do what they can to track down al quaeda. Afghanistan? The people there have suffered enough, don’t you think?
It’s not like a particular country has declared war on the western world (yes, yes… I know all about Iran… but there are innocent people there too)
Posted by: Becky | December 21, 2006, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Agreed. Wholeheartedly. The time for sympathy has passed. You all fought as MEN in WWII. Now you are nothing but empty suits getting into peeing contests over who can be more politically correct.
Political correctness does not win wars. You go in, you do what needs to be done, and you get out. Oh, and all the while, let the media look the other way. Can’t be having any more soldiers put on trial for actually doing their jobs, now can we?
Posted by: Maddie | December 21, 2006, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Drop the bomb?!? On whom? Terrorism is not a country. It has no geographic basis of power. There are ‘terrorists’ in every country in the world.
A-Bomb the Middle East and all you will get is a surge in radical fundementalism in countries like Indonesia, Pakistan, and Somalia.
What we need is a new type of ‘bomb’. Something revolutionary. Something that can only come from the most genius of scientists. That sort of innovation, like it did in WWII, will end the war. Not the bomb itself.
Posted by: Brett | December 21, 2006, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Gee whiz! And just when home support for continuing the war in Iraq (AKA “The War on Terrorism”) is waning so badly.
Can’t you just hear the conversations between 10 Downing and 1600 Pennsylvania…
George: “Ya know, Tony, if we could pulll off an attack and blame it on the “terrorists” we wouldn’t have to worry about losing support. Why, then, we could move full speed ahead and maybe even invade Syria and Iran!”
Tony: “George, you’ve done it again. Brilliant!”
Posted by: JC | December 21, 2006, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
I agree…..its time. No more games. We need to take out a very large area that is infested with these terrorists…..And then let the Iranian government know we really need business…I was a democrat here in the states…but not anymore….scares me to know people like Nancy P. are in office…..it is time..
Posted by: M. Cole | December 21, 2006, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Drop the bomb on what? These cells are supposedly in London. What a stupid comment!
Posted by: Mark | December 21, 2006, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
If we just talk to these people and let them know we mean them no harm and maybe even give them incentives, like high paying jobs or some type of welfare system, then they won’t hate us and want to kill us. Then they will want to peacefully co-exist with the rest of the world.
NOT!!!!!!…they all need to be taken out NOW..before they kill more of us. Anyone that says other wise is an ignorant fool with thier head buried DEEP in the sand.
Posted by: TOBY | December 21, 2006, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
If the ugly western nations would stop manipulating and playing god with other countries the simple folk there wouldn’t hate us. we must change our unethical system of so called “education” and energy waste.
Posted by: John P George | December 21, 2006, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
The only thing terroist understand is someone more savage than they are. If they attack with suicide then attack their whole family.
Terror is not pretty. The goal is to control the mass of the people thru fear. To control they preform savage acts against the few unlucky ones, in order to make most fear doing anything. We can not KISS them we must KILL THEM!
Posted by: Gary | December 21, 2006, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
This strikes me as media scare mongering. And since when do liberal media types believe in ‘miracles’?
Posted by: Jeff | December 21, 2006, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Terrorists represent what percentage of the country? Dropping an atomic bomb on innocent people is a path we should not tread down again.
Also, bombing one country is a short-sighted dangerous solution. You are using an assumption that terrorist can be wiped out in one blow. Who are you going to drop the bomb on? Unless you eliminate every single major instance in every country where they are a semi preminent position, it will just make matters worse and worse and worse and worse.
Posted by: Stephen | December 21, 2006, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Oh, just wait until the Democrat party takes over the House and Senate. We’ll see yearly attacks on key dates.
Posted by: Pete | December 21, 2006, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
It’s one thing to drop “the bomb” upon the military posts of a nation; it’s another to try and track down dozens of small pockets of terrorist cells and individually bomb each one without incurring massive numbers of collateral casualties. Nuclear weapons are not really an option in this instance. But I agree, it’s time that BOTH ends of the political spectrum to recognize that this is a war and that yes, it would be much more preferable for us to win.
Posted by: Charlotte R | December 21, 2006, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
“drop the bomb” ummm, on who exactly? are you out of you mind? were not fighting a country, we’re fighing a sect of a religon, and the more these people get killed the more of them want to sign up die. this was not true in WWII. these people belive they have god on their side so “steping it up” or “droping the bomb”, or whatever violent action you want to take will only make things worse. that’s the path we’ve taken since 9/11, its time we take a diffenrt path. please start thinking like you have half a brain.
Posted by: Brien | December 21, 2006, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Yes, once they are nuked, they will commit no more attrocities. Drop a big fat nuclear bomb on this so-called “al Qaeda of England”. It is a shame that some innocent people will be killed, but the threat of terrorism is very serious, and serious situations call for serious actions. Now, who can I call to get this ball rolling?
Posted by: Joseph Bleau | December 21, 2006, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
OF COURSE…we here in America have just elected those that will help the terrorists strike here again…
Posted by: Jim | December 21, 2006, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Charlie,
If people like you were in charge of our national security, there would have been another terrorist attack on our soil. You say terrorism is a non-issue, because we haven’t been attacked? What kind of non-sense is that? Tell that to our allies the Brits, or the Spaniards, tell that to our allies in Indonesia. Having our friends killed is just as bad as having our own killed in my opinion. Where’s your compasion for those killed in other countries? This doesn’t even mention all the inncocent Iraqis killed by terrorists. (Obviously that’s another topic to discuss)
Posted by: Briton | December 21, 2006, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
This is where “tolerance” will get you, someone blowing themselves up and killing others as a little Christmas present from Allah.
These Muslims are posing a direct threat to the British local and national security, but instead of eliminating the threat, they are doing nothing and making it easier for them to get away with it. How backward and ridiculous has government and public policy become? What should be done about the Muslim problem?
Its not about religion, it is about protecting the right to live peacefully. Islam is the new Nazi party.
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2006, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
I concur: nuke em all!!
Posted by: david | December 21, 2006, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Bomb, Bomb, and then more bombs!!!!
Posted by: chris | December 21, 2006, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
How do you bomb a strategy?
Posted by: Dave | December 21, 2006, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
nothing but good old fashioned holiday fear mongering.
Posted by: karl | December 21, 2006, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Send them all to Gitmo and throw away the key. “Ken” can go visit them
Posted by: Frank Grimes | December 21, 2006, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Anne Danos wants to know how we can be different if we bomb them when they bomb us. The answer is simple. They started it, we’ll finish it, and when we’re done, we won’t impose our religious beliefs on them like they would on us if they won.
Posted by: Larry Pierson | December 21, 2006, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Europe has embraced the culture of death (abortion, euthanasia, anti-family practies. The “religion of peace” is moving in and trying to take hold. Will they succeed?
Posted by: tom | December 21, 2006, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
I’m will to bet anyone $100 there will NOT be a terrorist attack. This is just a scare tactic, isn’t that obvious?
“we should strike first before they use a dirt bomb on us.”
we did strike first. I suggest you read up on US imperialism. This goes way back before 9/11.
Posted by: Jay | December 21, 2006, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
To answer all who are saying Who? Them all??
I say give isreal most of Nevada and then turn the middle east into a sheet of glass. Is that clear enough?
Posted by: david | December 21, 2006, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
We know where the money for these things come from – Gulf states with oil. Kathleen is right. The only answer to this is to dry up their money supply. That means we ride our bikes. That means we invest in new energy sources. That means we conserve. Do it! It will work much better than an A bomb, although we might have to do that as well, because we aren’t willing to conserve.
Posted by: Kay | December 21, 2006, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Comment to an earlier post. “Richard – drop the bomb on “them”? Who are “they”? Where do “they” live? You condone killing innocent people to get a few bad ones? You sir ar as bad as “they” are. ”
It is the terrorist that hide among the innocent and fight behind the skirts of their women and place children in front as human shields. Strap bombs to women and children just to kill more innocent women and children. Just like them you say, get real and pull your head out.
Posted by: Lowjak6 | December 21, 2006, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Make them disappear…
They are not a civilized group and do not want to live in a civilized world. All that the west holds sacred as far as rights and freedoms these scum want to take away.
We are being forced into the unthinkable and we should be on the offensive as well as the defensive…now.
Why is Mohammad now the most popular name for a baby in the UK? Because we opened our home and allowed these ingrates in over the last 50 years, now we will pay the price unless we clean our house…quickly.
Posted by: Bruce | December 21, 2006, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Drop a bomb on the middle east? You mean London right?? RTFA:
“The officials say the plots are all connected and track back to al Qaeda commanders in Pakistan who have been recruiting and training ****British citizens**** of Pakistan descent.”
Posted by: Bob | December 21, 2006, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
how come all of you that are against military action, yet still say “we should do something” never really have anything to offer?
Posted by: doctadave | December 21, 2006, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
“goodog” pulls the usual leftist rhetorical trick of using moral relativism to blend 2 entirely different philosophies. “neocons” want to democratize and upset the order that spawns terrorism. Islamists want to kill, terrorize and upset the order that spawns freedom and tolerance. yeah, i guess there’s no difference.
Posted by: MARK C | December 21, 2006, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Michelle, Ronald Reagan sold weapons to the Iranians in exchange for releasing hostages. It’s called Iran-Contra. Look it up. Iranians took more hostages and Reagan sold them more weapons. What part of “not negotiating with terrorists “is that? Learn your history before you miss the past.
The people running this current fiasco were all secretaries, under-secretaries, and deputies in the Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Bush Sr. administrations. You are experiencing the legacy of those presidencies right now.
Posted by: goodog | December 21, 2006, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
It’s time to turn the middle east into the world’s largest glass-lined crater theme park.
Posted by: f del sol | December 21, 2006, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Is it just me that thinks this whole situation has been snowballing since 1979?
I’m of the mind that Iran has been behind all the goings-on in the Middle East.
Posted by: Doug | December 21, 2006, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Unfortunately, too many people are afraid to call evil for what it is. We try to see their point of view and then blame ourselves for creating their perceptions of us. Sometimes people are evil, and Osama is an evil tyrant who is bent on destroying the world as we know it so he can create an Islamic world with Shia law ruling. The Iranian president is also one who wants to see the world as it is now destroyed. He claims that the British, Americans, and “Zionists” will go the way of the Pharaohs… Sounds like he wants us to be destroyed as well. Will we try to talk him out of that mindset with negotiations, sanctions and diplomacy? Maybe if we raise the world-wide minimum wage or give abortion on demand, or allow gay marriage to everyone in the world he’ll decide we’re not such a bad country after all.
Posted by: Briton | December 21, 2006, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Do you guys think we can head this off at the pass by sending all of our nutjob liberals over there to hug the terrorists? It could have worked in New York if only we could have had more liberals on those planes!
Posted by: Pete | December 21, 2006, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
God help us all
It’s a matter of time before they (terrorists) strike again. 10′s of thousands will die the next time. Then what??
Posted by: Pete | December 21, 2006, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I dunno anne…but maybe when its your family member being blown to bits, that you might find your attitude changing. Heres a news flash…these people want to kill you because they think your a substandard human…all the peace/love & goodness dialogue in the world isn’t going to change that. Fight or get out your islamic prayer rug and convert…you decide!
Posted by: joe | December 21, 2006, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Yes, a lot of good bombing and shooting has done for us in stopping terror these past 5 years. If anything we’ve succeeded in taking all the good will shown toward America following the 9/11 attacks and completely stood it on its head. Maybe there’s a reason for that? And maybe our “leader” will get it through his head that diplomacy isn’t a bad word.
Posted by: chris | December 21, 2006, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
this is a city that has been bombed almost constantly for the last 50+ years (Nazis, IRA, muslim fanatics).
its nothing new to the people there and they are incredibly stoic in how they deal with it.
You will notice how after 50 years of bombings the British do not cry out for nukes and the like but calmly go about trying to solve the issues.
Unfortunately America has been led blindly into a culture of fear and the cowardly comments posted here show that clearly.
Posted by: VanCam | December 21, 2006, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
I live in the US, yet I can engage in a conversation on the short comings of the US without resorting to pathetic names like unpatriotic. Why don’t you people wake up and stop to realize there is no war? Watch the movie wag the dog. It’s all about how to start a fake war.
Not to say it was initiated per se, but do you people think so long as the mission is “eliminate terrorism” that it’s ever going to end? Read the damn bible many of you cling so close to. People have been terrorizing each other since the dawn of man. It’s human nature and in spite of all the history, terrorism is still around.
it’s going to be here 2000 years from now so long as people are. Do you honestly believe we should send innocent young men and women into a war that will never be won? It’s BS and it’s time the rest of America turned off their TV’s and game a damn about this country.
The entire constitution is being hollowed ou at the height of this EMPIRE. Guess what? The founding fathers specifically did not want us to become an Empire like GB became. HELLO! What the hell do you think we’ve turned into? A giant bully who kicks people around the world all in the name of our interests! Bush said out way of life is non negotiable. Really? Tell me how non negotiable it is when our precious gas is five times the price today. Most of America is clueless and asleep at the wheel. I woke up in college and I’m so glad I quit drinking the kool aid our government serves.
I just wish most of you would realize we are under a one party system run by rich corporations. We can’t even talk to our congressmen that we elect, since the lobbyists have paid for their time. How do we compete against that? Campaign finance reform? Pelosi’s answer is to structure the reform in such a way that only K street will be allowed to lobby and not small grass roots organizations. Way to go America, the more things change the more they stay the same.
Posted by: Patrick | December 21, 2006, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
If you really would like to protect your country, you should respect the rights of other countries instead of violating the international laws and you should not have double standards with respect to democracy. You should respect the opinion of the majority of the countries of the world, the global sovereingty.
Posted by: Ruddy | December 21, 2006, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
“Ronald Reagan would NOT have put up this BS, damn shame he’s gone =/”
Really? Didn’t he pull our military out of Lebanon after that devastating barracks blast that killed 241 Americans marines and soldiers?
Posted by: Don Vito | December 21, 2006, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Yeah, Yeah, right. All the talking in the world won’t solve this problem. What we need to do is get the cowards like the ones you see here pandering to the terrorists leave the few of us left with the courage to do anything, alone and let the grown ups handle this thing. I am tired of listening to how we should talk our way through this. That sure would be nice, but it is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. I personally have had enough posturing and think we should take care of business.
Posted by: Jim | December 21, 2006, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing in intelligence agencies – the so-called terrorists usually have handlers who work for intelligence agencies of the nations experiencing the attacks. This is called an inside job or false-flag attack. It’s all to shepherd the public into a New World Order using fear – and lots of well-connected financiers and corporations are making money off of war.
Posted by: Jed-I | December 21, 2006, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Hey Goodog, I noticed that you seemed afraid to name Christianity as the second religion you were attacking. I would note that Christ taught nothing but love and understanding. He would not have favored any of the misinterpretations of his message, including yours.
Posted by: Enlightened | December 21, 2006, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
” Ronald Reagan would NOT have put up this BS, damn shame he’s gone ”
Oh really- I think I remember Reagan cutting and running after the Beruit embassy bombing.
Posted by: jr | December 21, 2006, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Bomb,kill and destroy.Gesh folks I’m really in the Christmas spirit now.
Posted by: Christopher | December 21, 2006, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I have a better idea….. Why not choose to love, even to forgive, our enemies, rather than wanting to kill them in the name of “such a reverent God” Pour water on the “fires of hate’ rather than kerosine that will do nothing but bring us closer to WWIII.
Posted by: Doug Soderstrom | December 21, 2006, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Speaking of history, Radical Islam has a long history of longing for global domination. In 700, the Franks beat them back into spain as they tried to add europe to their empire of Northern Africa, Spain, and the Middle East. My point is this is not a war that started with US “Imperialism” this goes back a long time, as Western civilazation has been fighting this war for over 1300 years.
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Caution: This is a Brian Ross report and may suffer from his proclivity to “truthiness”. Best to get confirmation from a reliable source before forming accepting as fact.
Posted by: Jim | December 21, 2006, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Only since 79? How about we go back to when England divided the ottoman empire into Iraq, Iran, Palestein, and a few other countries? That was in the early part of this century. See how well that’s worked out so far?
Posted by: bloggdude | December 21, 2006, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Larry, our government won’t even stand up for the religious beliefs this country was founded on – of course they would not “impose” religious beliefs on the terrorists – and as for us ending what they started – na, nana, boo boo – quite the mature fellow.
Posted by: anne danos | December 21, 2006, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
A lot of discussion on were should we drop the bomb and all I got say is that we should drop it on Iran, Iraq, and Syria this would solve a lot of problems. The only reason that the West is interested in the Middle East for is just the oil and nothing else matters. Talking with terrorists is not the right solution the United States should set an example for the 21st century like we did with Japan in the 20th and they ended up one of our best allies. All I got to say if there is a major terrorist attack on U.S. soil a bomb will be dropped some where!
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Pete,
That is one of the most callous thing I have ever heard in my life. In my cousin’s kindergarten class, every single child lost a parent. And don’t tell me I’d hear worse from the terrorists. You sound just like them. And it ‘could have worked in New York,’ you say. New York is one of the most liberal cities in the country, so I guess we all deserved to die, huh? Or do we just deserve to die because we won’t go along with your oh-so-manly nutjob plan to nuke somewhere, anywhere even though it won’t do a thing???
Posted by: Amanda | December 21, 2006, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
I for one will take great comfort in the UN writing a “very angry letter of condemnation” to whomever is responsible for any attack that occurs.
Posted by: Will | December 21, 2006, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Wow. I actually live in London, and I can certify 100% that no one is bracing for an attack at all. This is pure hyperbole, and it’s funny that it’s being reported breathlessly in the US, but not here.
It’s not like the government, the police or the Home Office are publicly suggesting that anything is in the offing; and most people here are busy with fog, travel plans, xmas parties and doing their shopping before everything shuts down.
BTW, Kathleen, people in the UK are not anti-American – we just can’t stand the Bush administration. Bill Clinton? Still a rock star here.
Posted by: dan | December 21, 2006, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
“Do you guys think we can head this off at the pass by sending all of our nutjob liberals over there to hug the terrorists? It could have worked in New York if only we could have had more liberals on those planes!”
I have an awesome idea for the author of the above, why don’t you stop complaining, head on down to the nearest recruiter and enlist if you really think war is the answer.
Posted by: Chris | December 21, 2006, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
There is such a thing as being too tolerant. We give out citizenship to anyone who can marry the right person or show up on our doorsteps with $50,000. IN the US we even give citizen to anyone who can illegally enter the country and aviod getting caught for a few years.
We’re seeing more and more that foreign powers are using our lax citizenship process to get their loyalists into our countries to either directly attack us, or to pressure our government to adopt their cultural values (such as Vatican City using hispanics to attack the seperation of church and state in the US).
Also we’rwe too tolerant of political movements that hide behind the claims of being a religion. Islam is a political/social system just like Soviet Communism or National Socialism. Its just dresses up like a religion. It regulates capital markets like communism. It has a cultural supremist ideology like National Socialism (“blame the jews” and everyone but is “decadent”).
Religion is how individuals deal with the concept of a higher spiritual questions and PERSONAL morality.
Political/social movements attempt to regulate how individuals act and behave in a culture or nation.
Islam is NOT a religion. It is a political/social contract. It regulates health and dietary codes, business and finance, public dress and morality. Inheritance, property transfer, and it sanctions violence in the interest of the State/Society.
These are all duties of a GOVERNMENT or POLITICAL SYSTEM.
(Just so you can’t claim I’m baised. The Catholic Church is also political system that claims to be a religion. The Pope is a head of state, has a seat on the UN, the catholic church has a central bank, prints currency, and operates a spy agency that both spies on and meddles in the affairs of other nation states).
Posted by: Brad | December 21, 2006, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
I totally agree with you Joe…Nuke them. I am so sick of placating and bowing to freaks that want to kill everyone and take over the world. Power hungry and brainless muslim facists with no interest in peace and making the world a better place. I am tired of hearing we should just talk with the leaders of these countries that want to harm us. Let’s bargain with them, offer them things and they will be our friend. This has to stop. No money should ever be given to these animals. President Bush tried to deal with them because of 9/11 and attack first in Iraq and deal with the Taliban in Afganistan and all he got and continues to get is hate and criticism. President Bush knew what he had to do and he did it. Thank God he did. I for one am proud to be an American and a Christian and a Republican and yes I voted for Bush and I would again if I could. We need leaders that will not put up with this evilness and are not afraid of recognizing it for what it is. At least, Bush has some guts. More than I can say for most leaders out there. No guts just yes men. Sickening. Alarming and sad. Now we have Democrats in power. Lovely, just what we don’t need. Oh, and have a Merry Christmas!!
Posted by: Cindi | December 21, 2006, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
“God help us all” Sadly that shows in stark relief what the root of the entire problem is. Their ‘god’, our ‘god’, their religion vs our religion. When are the educated peoples of the world going to wake up and take control? When are we as a specie going to realize that religion has been the bane of our existence? At this point I dearly wish some aliens would attack and meld mankind into one concerted force. Reminds me of a quote I heard back many years ago, “Get me off this rock”
Posted by: Mike | December 21, 2006, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
This is the answer to “who” (meaning innocent civilains).Start with Saudi Arabia, Mecca perhaps. Give Iran 6 hours to clean their trousers then drop 1 bomb on each major city there. Then Indonesia, Yemen and finish with Lybia (those fakers) We should then suggest a peaceful resolution and monitor the progress. For bonus points with Russia and China we could “Accidentally” drop one in Chechnya and North Korea.
Posted by: Dave | December 21, 2006, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
I like it, they have created their own “christmas miracle” of no terrorist attacks out of thin air, and it seems to be working.
The racists and hate mongers are drooling over the very suggestion and plotting their horrid revenge in advance.
Way to sell a war of empirialism.
Posted by: lee | December 21, 2006, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Wow, it’s scary that there are supposedly “good” Americans who think that dropping a bomb on “them” will fix this. Naive at best.
Posted by: Ryan | December 21, 2006, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
One big bomb is too simple of an answer for a complicated problem. Who do we bomb anyways? The Middle East? And kill millions of innocent people
They are not innocent FYI. They all harbor hate towards the US
Posted by: Joey | December 21, 2006, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Just remember in the 23rd century there is no Middle Eastern Descendants on the Star Ship Enterprise! Maybe Gene had a vision for the way things should be!
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
The where and the who are as follows. Stria, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq. So innocent people die it happens every day. One big plain of glass is what the Mid-East should be.
Posted by: dave | December 21, 2006, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Wow, they printed my comment. That never happens at al Jazeera!
P.S. we know where to bomb, we know where the money comes from. We know who builds all the mosques, pays the extremist Imams, then pays people to immigrate and fill them. We konw who is paying CAIR’s lawyers. Don’t kid yourself! They are buying our infrastructure, they are granting our universities, they are buying our hotels, our banks, our ports.
Posted by: Kay | December 21, 2006, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Tony Blair should go on television and inform the world that the UK will detonate one nuclear weapon in each foreign national’s country for each person found guilty of attacking the UK. These people clearly need motivation to police their own communities. If self-preservation won’t do it, what will?
Posted by: Tom | December 21, 2006, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Mike said: “God help us all” Sadly that shows in stark relief what the root of the entire problem is. Religion… ***
Mike, it is not religion. This is what the argument is and has always been: “have-nots versus the haves”. Some may use ‘religion’ to justify themselves, but if they couldn’t pull it out of their pocket, they would simply use another ruse.
Don’t blame religion, it is envy, masquerading as victimization.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Posted by: Kay | December 21, 2006, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
My 2 cents. It should be stated often and forcefully that if there is a nuclear, chemical or biological attack against the US or Great Britain or allies no time will be taken to figure out who is responsible, an impossible task anyway. Instead, retaliation will be immediate against Mecca, Tehran, and North Korea. Maybe that threat will force these nut balls get a lid on their own.
Posted by: jbolty | December 21, 2006, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Chris: want a specific bombing locale,here’s two NUKE MECCA or NUKE TEHRAN pick one they both appeal to me.Both targets support and fund the terror proxy wars.
“Liberalism is a Mental Disorder”
Posted by: hellpig | December 21, 2006, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
The only solution I can think of is to send in Jack Bauer from CTU! He will just need a hacksaw and a nuke!
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Of course if something happens there will be no investigation- that’s what happens with false flag ops (9/11, 7/7, Madrid etc.) You perpetrate the act yourself and blame someone else. If something DOES happen, you can be sure that MI5 and MI6 are deeply involved in how, when and where it is carried out.
Posted by: Michael Thompson | December 21, 2006, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
I cant believe the country that faught so hard in wwII has turned into a bunch of cowards who won’t fight for there own survival.
Posted by: andy | December 21, 2006, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
The information age has put an end to the days of Empire.
Britain became Great on the backs of 3rd world peasants, stealing their resources in the process, and is now facing the consequences of those actions.
The US, dependent on oil, finds itself in the same boat today.
So, our solution is to consider nuking them?
Shouldn’t we be compensating them for the rape and destruction of their societies that made our lipo-suction procedures possible?
Or maybe they just ‘hate our freedoms?’
As long as western peasants remain in ignorance these attacks will continue.
Posted by: warranterror | December 21, 2006, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Andy,
Americans are not cowards and our miltary is the best in the history of the world the only problem is that the politicians in America and the liberal news media are just in the way!
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
It is actions like those of the “Bush Doctorine” that has caused the upsurge in Islamic extremism over the last few years.
By blindly supporting Israel no matter what they do and supporting any corrupt, undemocratic government in the Middle-East and elsewhere in return for their support in the “War on Terror”, the ordinary people in the Muslim world have seen how morally corrupt the West really is. How is disaffecting millions of people going to help solve anything? It has just increased the pool of people that the extemists can stir up and brainwash into carrying out their twisted ideaology.
Posted by: Tim | December 21, 2006, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
The bomb you drop today is the radiation YOU breathe tomorrow. And again. And again. Radiation isn’t magic. It doesn’t go away. There are a few Russian former KGB who can now attest to that.
Posted by: Rowan | December 21, 2006, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
THANK GOD I LIVE IN IDAHO. TERRORISTS ARE SCARED TO DEATH OF IDAHOANS, SO IS HALF OF THE UNITED STATES. YOU WON’T FIND MANY RADICAL ISLAMISTS HERE.WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY GUNS AND WAY TOO MUCH PRIDE IN BEING AN AMERICAN.IDAHOANS DON’T TAKE NO CRAP,AND DON’T HESITATE TO DEFEND WHAT IS OURS.
Posted by: CAMERON | December 21, 2006, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
To all the half-wit “armchair generals” out there; FIND a legitimate target and/or the bad guys out there and I’m pretty sure darn near every American will be behind blowing it/them to smithereens. In the meantime, if you want to do something useful, stop whining about “liberals”, sell your SUV and stop sending gas money to the terrorist states that support the enemies of America.
Posted by: jim | December 21, 2006, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Living in Great Britain this is not been reported which means eiter there is no merit to the story. Or more likely British media is reporting under what is called a D Notice where the government asks them to censor this information.
Either way thanks for letting me know, I will not bge going into centres of urban population or using public transport.
Posted by: Chris | December 21, 2006, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Oh please, don’t compare this to WWII. In WWII, they may have been fantatics, but you knew who you were fighting. They wore uniforms and logos and fought for their leaders. In this battle your enemy could be right next to you. And dropping bombs over the last 50 years is what has created the hatred for us as it is. There’s nothing we can do other than try to prevent their attacks. Using a tactical nuke would only set a precedent for other countries to use them and eventually lead to the end of the world. Damn neo-cons. Always think pressing “the button” is the answer.
Posted by: Rob | December 21, 2006, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Rob,
I think pressing the button is the right answer besides I don’t think any other country would use them anyway esepecially on the United States because most countries depend on our Economy especially China. If China decides to drop a nuke on us their economy would collapse over night. Also to the comment you made about dropping the bomb over 50 years ago is complete B.S.
Posted by: Paul | December 21, 2006, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
i wish there were a easy solution.dropping the bomb sounds great.but where?or just take out the whole middleast and be done with them!but lets take thier oil first!
Posted by: david | December 21, 2006, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
“Oh please, don’t compare this to WWII. In WWII, they may have been fantatics, but you knew who you were fighting. They wore uniforms and logos and fought for their leaders.”
You want to tell that to our soldiers killed by Germans wearing American uniforms during the Battle of the Bulge? It’s called HISTORY, bro.
Posted by: Pete | December 21, 2006, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Unfortunately, the time for talking is way past. The only thing terrorists understand is might and strength. They think the US doesn’t have the will or guts to fight them nor to “drop the bomb” on them. In the present politically correct arena they may be right. I am sure there are known targets that, if bombed, would effectively send the message that the US has had enough and we are no longer willing to dance to their tune. Do we have the guts? I think Bush does but with the left giving away our intelligence to the media for release, our enemies probably are one step ahead of us. To those that feel we can sit down and dialogue with these people, just how do you talk to someone that is willing to either kill themselves or their children in order to kill you?
Posted by: vcarde | December 21, 2006, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
The US dollar is about to collapse. ahahaha
Posted by: haha | December 21, 2006, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Okay, here’s a modest proposal. Drop “bunker buster” type deep-digging weapons equipped with a nuclear warhead into one of the many open fields in Mecca and Medina. Equip these devices with ultra-low-frequency communications for command, as our Minutemen and Titan II’s used to use. Offer the Saudi government a team of all-Muslim Navy Seabees to “safe” the sites, burying them in reinforced concrete. Let it be known that after a certain deadline, any terrorist acts verified to be associated with Islamic extremism will result in these “holy” sites being highly visible from satellite, but unavailable during the haj for oh, the next several hundred years. Let them decide what to do about it from there.
Posted by: Monty | December 21, 2006, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
How did America allow itself to get so polarized over an issue that they all agree on. Liberals and conservatives alike prefer dead terrorists to live ones. If only they could agree who the terrorists are, hint: Taliban, yes; pre-invasion Iraqis, no. Bush 41 left Saddam alive to scare the Iranians, as did the Romans leave Attilla the Hun alive to scare the Visigoths. When Atilla died, Rome fell. Now that Saddam is gone, Iran is without fear.
Posted by: Robyn Blaber | December 21, 2006, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
As a native anglo saxon who happens to live in the country that this article says will almost certainly be hit over Christmas by islamic terorists, I should just point out that we are not all PC and we do not all hate Americans.
For my own part and that of my family and friends the opposite is the case.
I like most of you am an infidel and the Koran says that we should either be made to convert or be wiped out.
While it is true that there is anti-US sentiment here this is mainly because of the way that the Iraq war has been prosecuted, not because of the war per se. The US led invasion showed military genius but without much afterthought. I sometimes wonder if Iraq would be such a mess if we had left Sadam in power but that’s another story. As far as I am concerned, the objective now is to kill terrorists and prevent them from gaining a foothold, building training camps etc.
It is striking to note the many similarities between our two countries re the topic under discussion.
Both countries seem to have a large proportion of liberals who think that the human rights of a terrorist or an illegal immigrant are more important than that of any victim or law abiding citizen. Our border controls are in disarray and open to infiltration by terrorists. We bend over backwards to make allowances for religions other than our own native religion.
Many companies here are afraid of calling Christmas Christmas in case it offends some moslem somewhere. THeir websites proudly proclaim “Seasons Greetings”; not Merry Christmas. Some of our schools have cancelled nativity plays in favour of non-religious activities. The list of this politically correct BS is endless.
Some children have even been made to eat Halal meat.
The US wants to allow politicians to swear an oath of office on the Koran instead of the Bible.
If we don’t halt this seemingly endless appeasement and loss of national identity, then Islam will win by default.
They won’t need to carry out atrocities; we will destroy our own cultures.
Posted by: Mike UK | December 21, 2006, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
There is only one WAY .
Why ,,First . This Enemy is like no other .
lets say one Set’s off a Dirty Bomb , A Suitcase Nuke,,hmmm
well,,We have 100,000 of Dead and Dieing .
Unimaginable Destruction , Life here ,,Never the same .
News Round clock. and ????
What do we do ,,,
just anihalate an entire population for who we don’t even know if it was The Goverment , the poeple or,,,Just A group of Fannatics. no one would take resposibility..
And then another….
Millions Dead and Dieing
imagin our world,,no planes no
trains ,Devestaion like you never seen,,,Rebuild ,,,,,,,when ,,untold 10s of years ,,,or worse,,never in our lifetime .
life as we know ,,,GONE
The only option is to
Identify and Hunt down and KILL them no matter where they are ,,in this world,,,THat is the ONLY WAY . The Only way. Where do i sign up ..????
No Matter what ,,,
The Fannatical ,cults ,,religion
in this world ,,Cannot be ALOWED
to even have a Chance at doing so
Every Nation is a Target .
What they need to be told is
GOOD GREIF<< EVOLVE Already ok.
Posted by: C.P.A | December 21, 2006, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
How long is it going to take before people realize that, regardless of what we do, we’re going to be a target? If we “drop the bomb” as so many of you have decided is the answer, do you think that that won’t cause even more hatred towards our country and the West in general? Since we’ve gone to war and dropped bombs, anti-american, anti-Western sentiment has drastically increased all over the world.
This President and previous Presidents (Democrat and Republican alike) have completely botched their responses to the threat of terrorism, either home grown or overseas. No one has the answers to a problem that doesn’t have a clear solution; we can’t fight an enemy we don’t fully understand.
It’s time that we all took a step back and realized that, for better or worse, we’re going to be targeted based on any action we choose to make. It’s time Americans stopped griping about “muslims” and “terrorists” and just began to live with the fact that there’s nothing definitive that we can do to control the threat. I live in major American city and know that the actions of one lone individual with a bomb, American or foreign, could mean the difference between me getting to work safley in the morning or not.
Americans need to grow up, stop bickering, and begin to act like adults towards one another. The “terrorists” have certainly succeeded in tearing our nation apart; there’s more hatred here now than ever before.
Posted by: Margaret | December 21, 2006, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
The solution is clear. If we are attacked again, we nuke Mecca.
Posted by: Rich | December 21, 2006, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
“Ronald Reagan would NOT have put up this BS, damn shame he’s gone”
I love the ignorance of so many of the American Public. FYI:
#1) OBL used Reagan’s failure to respond to the Lebanon bombing (and turning tail and leaving) as his primary reason for believing in 9/11 type tactics.
#2)There were more terrorists attacks against Americans in the 80′s than in any subsequent decade.
Reagan didn’t respond. Instead, he rewarded Arab Muslims by selling Arms to Iran. Followed by Rumsfeld selling arms to Iraq.
- Yep, I sure long for the good old days…
Posted by: jim | December 21, 2006, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
My fellow misinformed Americans…Why do you think they are fighting against us? Is it because we have freedom, blue jeans and rock-n-roll or our SUV’s? Wake up people. Your ignorance of this whole situationis stifling ans allowing yourself to be tugged about like a dog on a leash. Hmmmmm. We want democracy in Iran, Irag, etc right? Well see here is a problem in the fifties Iran had a functioning albeit not exactly like ours fundctioning Democracy. They, the coutnry decided they wanted to nationalize “their” oil. What do you think happened? Right we helped over throw that government to bring in the US Oil Corporation Ayatollah (sp?). And now we have the current government. So should they trust us? Could it not be that some of our foreign (and often meddling) policies are ill advised? Yes, terrorism is wrong, killing amaericans should not go unpunished , but before you say kill them all you shoudl try educating yourself as to how we got here. Stop with the bs media and get educated. They the powers that be love you as you are ignorant, and full of hate! Keep it up and we will be fighting for the rest of time. Peace to all, and education is the answer not bombs!
Posted by: Grant | December 21, 2006, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
You people and your opinions. Opinions are like armpits, We all have them and they all stink. I am so sick of Political correctness I could puke. Look our great leaders are so stuck in their power base that they have lost their testicals for anything that may insult someone,Well thats tough. It’s going to be bad folks when it comes. Lets hope the stupid leaders haven’t taken away our ability to fight.
Posted by: Barb. Barth | December 21, 2006, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
It’s time for racial profiling. A muslim cannot plot to suicide bomb if he is not in your country. Stop pandering to the liberal nut-heads!! Round up all muslims and ship them back to the middle east.
Posted by: andy | December 21, 2006, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Wow! A lot of strong opinions.
It all boils down to this: We are in a fight with an enemy who is better at adapting than we are. They are fighting what is known as 4th generational warfare while we combat it with 3rd and 2nd generational warfare. This is an enemy that has no country, no nationality, and no fear. While I don’t agree with the strategy of turning the middle east into a parking lot, there is some truth to the notion of responding to their actions with swift, brutal force that does not worry about the collateral damage. We will never be able to deter these people with force, but we may be able to convince the innocents to hand them over if they become more afraid of what we’ll do in response to an attack.
In warfare, there is a concept known as a Boyd’s loop. (or OODA loop) It basically says that whoever can assimilate information relative to the fight the quickest, analyze it, and react to it will win the conflict. The terrorists are light years ahead of us in this respect, and our military knows it. That is why they have publicly condemmed their leadership. We need to give them the tools and freedom necessary to get inside the enemies loop. Only then will we see any progress made.
Finally, the current generation of terrorists can not be reasoned with…they are too far gone. However, while we are eliminating that threat, we also need to be looking at the next generation of religious fundamentalists in every country and educating them about our cherished values and beliefs. Education is the only way to free a mind condemmed by ignorance and hate.
Posted by: way | December 21, 2006, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
I’ll tell you where to drop the bomb: on the enemies’ bases of support. No it’s not in London, a bit southeast of there. Responding to this threat differently than to the threats of WW2 is exactly why we aren’t winning, instead we’re digging in for 50+ years of war.
Posted by: Brad | December 21, 2006, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Exactly my point, Rich. The only difference is we pre-plant the nukes as a reminder that we can at any time destroy these sites. I believe the Saudis have enough self-interest to reason with the radicals they are currently funding. I am tired of hearing that the terrorists have no state, that there is target of strategic value. Mecca and Medina are the potential targets, radical Islam is the state. When Washington and New York were attacked, no one in government was harmed, but there was definitely an effect. You don’t have to attack them directly if you can sufficiently threaten their symbols.
Posted by: Monty | December 21, 2006, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Brazilian plumbers, beware!
Posted by: AdAbsurdum | December 21, 2006, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
monty is a genius; where exactly can I find the evidence for the assertion that symbols will have a huge effect? i don’t care about our symbols; only our people
Posted by: Barb | December 21, 2006, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Let’s just stick our heads in the sand and think nothing is going to happen once the Dems take over.
Posted by: Hillary | December 21, 2006, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
NUTS
Posted by: Bob John | December 21, 2006, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Those who bleat about attacking Islamic sites first worry about civilian casualties in Arab lands. That is precisely the point of our doing so — let the Jihadists worry about their kin dying.
Why is it that the P.C. crowd is always worried about hurting our sworn enemies and not furious about the innocent dead Americans and the ones who will die if we can’t stop this insanity?
Posted by: Margaret | December 21, 2006, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
To those who suggest bombing ‘them’ before they attack us. Let’s unpack your logic for a moment, looking at the enemy we *actually* have instead of the faceless horde from action movies that you imagine we have.
If we take a non-trivial number of Muslims at their word when they say they believe that it is pleasing to Allah when one person is martyred by blowing themselves up on a bus, how much more happy can we imagine them believing Allah to be if, say, the nation of Iran or Pakistan should suddenly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball? The logic of this is straight-forward, if retail suicide-martyrdom makes Allah happy, then wholesale suicide-martyrdom would make Allah do the celestial version of the Snoopy Happy Dance. Joe et. al. this is *not* Soviet Russia we are talking about. Nuking Iran, or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia isn’t going to deter anyone from doing anything. In fact, it would invite revenge attacks so unless you are willing to wipe out one-sixth of the population of the planet your prescription is nothing more than just so much yahoo jingoism.
Cheers
A
Posted by: Aj | December 21, 2006, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
dudes these aren’t the nazis. worry about heart disease or something, or car accidents. how many americans have died from terrorists (not counting the ones bush sent to iraq)?
Posted by: marc h. | December 21, 2006, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
We should locate as many terrorist organizations as possible and include every individual as well even if just a suspect . Then we simply nuke them until they glow and then shoot them in the dark !!!
Posted by: Jeff | December 21, 2006, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
‘The people can be brought to the bidding of their leader. All you have to do is tell them they’re being attacked and denounce the pacifists for somehow a lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.’
Hermann Goering.
Posted by: sanity | December 21, 2006, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
A couple of points…
First, the releasing of this story has an up side and a down side. The upside is that the average citizen in the UK will be at least minimally prepared for an attack. The downside is that those who plan on doing the attacking now know for sure people are on to them, and can dig a hole and either wait a little longer, or hide better till the scheduled attack…
For those who say you must be clairvoyant to say “there will be an attack”, I put forth the following hypothetical: If I were to tell you I was going to blow up a bus in Chicago Illinois, you’d know it was coming, and have two ways of stopping me. Stop me in the act – in which case I could blow up on teh spot killing anyone near me – or you could catch me before hand. I assure you, finding one person in a mob isn’t as easy as you think. It takes days and weeks to find someone during a city/state/nation wide manhunt. This would be the same thing.
Lastly, while I’m not sure nuking is the answer, we most certainly need to drop a large number of the nice-guy things we do. Those at GitMo eat well, have good conditions, and are more or less left alone. People they capture have their heads hacked off, with the video placed on the internet for the world to see. Do you see a slight difference in the level of care given? While Islam is wonderful faith (it’s SUPPOSED to be a lovely, calm, peaceful religion), those who take a violent, millitant tack on it only understand one thing. They want us dead because not only do we not believe what they believe, we don’t do it in the way they wish it done. The Sunni-Shia(sp) issues could be paralelled (at least partial) to Baptists and Methodists. You don’t see people from First Baptist blowing the hell out of a Methodist bake-sale, and if you did they hammer of public outrage would fall upon them so fast your head would swim. The terrorists want to kill us. That is all they want. They want me, you, Cindy Sheehan, Bill Clinton, George Bush, EVERYONE in America to die. They understand only brutality, and so we should show them brutality. Find those who lead the insurgents, and kill them. Don’t arrest, kill. And then kill their mother, father, wife, children, and their neighbors. Soon people will understand that to harbor such people is unhealthy. They wish violence, so we must visit violence upon them. More Iraqis are killed by the insurgists than insurgists are killed by the US military. We need to force home the point that terrorism is not a wise idea. I’d be all for talking to them, and settling this without violence, but they don’t want that. They want death.
Oh, and as to why we should care about attacks in the UK…
The UK is our friend. Violence visited upon them and their citizens is violence visited upon me. If the UK wants another body to hunt for these bastards, I’ll have my bag packed and waiting for the call.
God bless America, and God save the Queen…
Posted by: Scott | December 21, 2006, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
You don’t drob a bomb now. You institute a new policy: MAD. Let Islamists (and all Muslims) know that if they continue on the road they’re on then Mecca itself might be demolished. Do “peaceful” Muslims want that to happen? Do the Saudis, who are funding most of the extremism want to see the Grand Mosque leveled? They’ll lose a lot of revenue from foreigners who come during the hajj. They’ll lose their status as keeper of the holy places when the holy places are dust.
Lay down a marker in the sand. Muslims can live with others or they can see their religion’s holy sites razed. They’ve shown no compunction about destroying Jewish and Christian landmarks and replacing them with mosques. Let them know we can give them a taste of their own medicine. Let them imagine synagogues and cathedrals in the land of Mohammad.
Posted by: PK | December 21, 2006, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
I think people need to realize that the Crusades never actually ended…we’ve all been enjoying a nice little intermission. Well, it’s time to finish the game. Which side are YOU on, people?
dw
Posted by: dav | December 21, 2006, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
We all are missing the point, Yes I do agree that a reprisal is needed, our Government’s have themselves wraped-up in Political correctness and are affraid to offend the poor and afflicted Muslim communities, even if it cost the lives of the people they sre sworn to protect. I say find them, give them a speedy trial with-in 48 hours, one Apeal, then Hang them with-in 12 hrs. after their apeal. The bleeding heart libs. will go ntus about that but T/S it not their Buts getting blown up.
I do beleive that the Gov’t should go after mmoney suppliers and shut them down completly
Posted by: Fran | December 21, 2006, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
When the **** really hits the fan, the East and West coast liberal idiots will be knocking on the doors of the middle class all across the heartland. why? well, we own guns, have generators, know how to hunt, fish, and survive. Sen. Kerry can come stay at my house…if he’s not too busy converting to Islam.
Posted by: david | December 21, 2006, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Marc …3000+ have died due to terrorism and learn your history Islam is deeply rooted with the Nazi’s of WWII
Keep america safe exile the treasonous LIBERALS
Posted by: hellpig | December 21, 2006, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
they seem to know so much about this plot that is hard to beleive they not involve in it.
Posted by: raoul potato | December 21, 2006, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Pelosi and the Liberals will save us with their plan…what’s the plan again ? Oh that’s right Barack Obama will save us in 2008.
Posted by: Rico | December 21, 2006, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
The Muslims are taking Europe from the inside out. The #1 name now in Britain is Muhammed. It’s only a matter of time and the British are allowing it to happen. I don’t know why they are so surprised that allowing radical muslim cleric to speak hate against the British and west wouldn’t have negative effects. You reap what you sow…and allow.
Posted by: M.Paul | December 21, 2006, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
I could only get thru the first 20 or so comments and I couldn’t take it any more. I would love to live in a peaceful world as much as the next person, however, unless the ENTIRE world feels this way there will never be peace. There are people out there who would like me dead, people that don’t even know me or know what I am about. Its crazy to think you can reason with people like this. I don’t know all the answers or how to rid the world of this craziness, but I don’t believe we should sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack to happen. We have to defend ourselves, no matter what the cost is. This may mean stepping on somes toes, not being politically correct and yes, sacrificing innocent lives in some cases. Sometimes the answers aren’t easy. Unfortunately it will take a nuclear bomb to go off in this country before some people will understand what we face today. We are helping to destroy ourselves with this pc rhetoric. War is hell and always has been. Innocent people die. Its a fact. But what is the alternative? Either way innocent people will die, either by this country trying to do the right thing and rid the world of terrorism, or by the terrorists taking over and forcing their beleifs and way of life on the world. Those are the only 2 choices.
Posted by: RWiggins | December 21, 2006, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
We’ve dropped the ball and totally lost our nerve. From here on out, every single terrorist attack that happens to the west, we deserve.
We could’ve ended this the day after 9/11 but we didn’t have the guts. We have no right to cry foul when we are hit again, because we really didn’t learn anything.
Inevitably whether 10 days from now or 100 years, it will be an entire western city and I’ll find it very hard to shed a tear for us. We reap what we sow.
Posted by: Rick | December 21, 2006, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Biblical Christianity and it’s spread is the only force in the world that can defeat Islam. Attacks will on reinforce that notion as Biblical Christianity will gain more adherents in the west and the world after those attacks occur. Terrorism,nukes,oil boycotts, or anything else that Islam want’s to deploy will successed in stopping or suppressing Biblical Christianity..
Posted by: Brian | December 21, 2006, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Most everyone is in a state of denial concerning the reality of what we are facing. THIS IS A RELIGIOUS WAR a war of DOMINATION. This is, and will become even more, a war of pure SURVIVAL. It will be brutal, horrific, and eclipse every war this world has ever known. This is NOT the time for PC and “they will not like us” mnd sets. THIS IS ABOUT SURVIVAL…One cannot be PC with cancer, for it does not listen nor care about your feelings, your religious freedoms, your political or economic status, IT WILL KILL YOU. Western society has become so spoiled and soft, it cannot recognize the death trap it is headed for. Either we change and accept a few hundred thousand or million deaths now, or we will see hundreds of millions or billion later in a horrendous blood bath most cannot imagine.
Posted by: DL | December 21, 2006, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
We all are missing the point, Yes I do agree that a reprisal is needed, our Government’s have themselves wraped-up in Political correctness and are affraid to offend the poor and afflicted Muslim communities, even if it cost the lives of the people they sre sworn to protect. I say find them (terriost), give them a speedy trial with-in 48 hours, one Apeal, then Hang them with-in 12 hrs. after their apeal. The bleeding heart libs. will go nuts about that but T/S it not their Buts getting blown up.
I do beleive that the Gov’t should go after mmoney suppliers and shut them down completely
Posted by: Fran | December 21, 2006, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
The difference between the Soviets of yesterday and the Iran Mullahs of today, is, the Mullahs do not sare our love of life. For the Iranian Mullahs (who are the sponsors of all of world terriorism, the prize is in the anticipated life after death, where the rewards of martyrdom are promised to be sublime. The legacy mullahs have left the world is there invention of the suicide bomber. The Iranian terrorist mullahs preach the glorification of self destruction as a pinnacle experience fo the short lives of those they indoctinate to do their lethal bidding. Killing one’s self so as to kill the enemy in the process is the distinguishing thought the mullah’s propagate.
The Soviets fought bravely in many wars, yet there was no streak of suicidal heroism fundamental to Soviet Communism. The Soviets wanted to beat the United States, yet they wanted to live to enjoy the victory.
If the Iranisn mullahs had a world annihilation button they could press to end the world, the probability is that they would press the button. How can people who think like this be deterred by appeasement of for that matter the fear ofd mutual assured destruction, which stopped both the United States and the USSR from launching a first strike against the other?
The mullahs might simply launch a nuclear weapon because of the chos that weould result…even if it meant their subsequent self descruction.
Posted by: tom | December 21, 2006, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Be AFRAID be very AFRAID! Oh, and don’t forget to go shopping!
These fear antics have gotten so old.
Posted by: Casey | December 21, 2006, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Instead of Killing or bombing, how about PROFILING.How many people have to die before we do anything at all?
Posted by: Andrew | December 21, 2006, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Europe had the same problem when moors attacked. they pillaged, kidnapped and enslaved Europeans…there was only one solution…Crusade! Send them back to the countries of origin!
We all want peace, one only has to turn one cheek.
Posted by: Aaron C | December 21, 2006, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
I think the world of our late President who said tear down that Wall–but that opened the door to what we face today. Money is the root of all evil–we all need to pay attention to the money. There is no greater power than to make a nations money.
It has killed two very American Presidents in front of our eyes.
Thomas Jefferson was adamantly opposed to the idea of a privately owned federal bank and said ” I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies”.
The first two Federal Reserve Systems lasted about 20 years each and we are now almost a hundred years into the third one.
We didn’t have nor did we need an income tax until we got the bankers back. The income tax was only needed to pay interest to the bankers for our money that they loan to our government. Yes, you read that right, the Fed, mostly on paper and computer, creates money or pays the treasury a small printing fee for currency, and then loans this money to our government. Our taxes pay them interest on this loan that cost the FEDS virtually nothing to make, what a sweetheart of a deal they have going for them.
We the people need to wake up.
Posted by: Dino | December 21, 2006, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
What is amazing is so many peoples blind ignorance to the fact that many Muslims want you either dead or converted…period! We cannot rationalize, discuss, arbitrage, etc. with people who watch Saturday morning cartoons condoning suicide bombings by children (oh, by the way, these can be seen all over the web and is on Palestinian TV). To gain perspective on how people can be so dang blinded by political correctness and actually state this war is about Halliburton, oil, racism (or any of the other lame excuses that have no factual backing) just check out any liberal blog…people on many of these blogs not only are very anti-Semitic (look at comments about the recent exhibit about the “faking” of the Holocaust or Joe Lieberman), but actually advocate for Iran having a nuclear weapon to “level” the international playing field…they also talk about (and exemplified here in so many comments) about how this is all manufactured by our governments to manipulate us…
THIS IS INTRINSIC TO THE RELIGION…read the Koran or the Hadith…later versus, which talk about “smiting” non-Muslims are black and white and doctrinally supersede previous versus. This does not mean all Muslims want anything other than peace, but it does give a giant “excuse” to many others to carry out violent attacks…
By trying to rationalize terrorist actions or morally equivocate (“well Christians have violent passages in the bible” or “the war is only about corporate greed”) we miss the big picture…the people who want to kill us don’t care about us or democratic system or left vs right etc…And the killing just didn’t start “all of sudden-like” and it will not end if we get out of the Middle East…Muslims have been killing for years (USS Cole, Cobart Towers) and also in countries that DO NOT support Israel or have anything to do with the Middle East…e.g. India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Germany (attempted train bombing), Russia, and even in Muslim countries in the Middle East.
Posted by: bob | December 21, 2006, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
It will be very interesting to observe the British peoples response once bombings (attacks) are regular occurrences. Will they choose to dialog with their attackers and their supporters OR will they choice to continue the present battle and even escalate it. When the enemy is “within the camp” then extraordinary measures are required to eliminate them and as you would expect there will be innocent deaths on both sides.
!!!! FREEDOM IS NOT FREE !!!!
Posted by: Chalmer | December 21, 2006, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
So far I’ve read, “Let’s not meddle in the middle east.”Let’s
not make the world dislike us even more.” “This is all propaganda.”
“Let’s not offend the Muslims.”
What a bunch of cowards. Where have
all the men gone? Will you even defend your wives and children?
Posted by: Candace | December 21, 2006, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Much like the europe of the 1930′s the world is once again in a state of denial about the gathering storm that approaches in the night.
How many lives will it cost us this time?
Only time will tell…
Western civilization has grown weak on the spoiled fruit of self indulgence…
Much like the roman empire we are rotting from within, so welf involved with petty squabbling that we to fail to see the barbarians outside the gates.
Any civilization that will not defend itself deserves to fall; even ours.
Posted by: state of denial | December 21, 2006, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
bob: Don’t blame the Muslims or Islam for something it hasn’t done. No where in the religion does it condone the killing of innocent people.
These terrorists know that there isn’t any support for their actions. Look at Osama bin Laden’s videos and how he tries to justify his actions not with religious teachings but with poor arguments for revenge.
Posted by: FK | December 21, 2006, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
If a terrorist major WMD attack occurs within the UK or USA, I’d not be surprised to see mass internment of Muslims within those countries under martial law. I’d also expect to see a movement to merge Canada, USA, and Mexico into a North American Union with Amero money as the elite have been planning such for a disaster. And that wouldn’t stop the western war on terror. Where would the west drop a retaliatory nuke strike? Well, how about for starters fundamentalist terror targets within those countries where they have deliberately been funding, housing, training, and equipping the terrorists? Gee, that might cause civilian casualties? Yup. And that is why the other countries’ moderate civilians better convince these radicals that they have something to loose. It is called Mutually Assured Destruction for a reason. And by the way, the difference between a terrorist and a radical fundamentalist “innocent civilian” is that when they die, their friends make sure they are missing their weapon for the purposes of western media manipulation.
Posted by: American | December 21, 2006, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
… And our boys are charged today for deaths that occurred after their unit was attacked with an improvised explosive device.
They are charged with murder.
This is how we repay our soldiers? With murder charges? Our society has surely gone mad.
Posted by: Kay | December 21, 2006, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Remember we are dealing with one government with two faces. Face one wants us to be in a state of constant fear in order to introduce anti-terror laws that are for “our protection”. Face two tries to convince us that we aren’t capable or able to deal with such complicated issues. The bottom line, bigger government with less emphasis on our founding documents.
Posted by: JSR | December 21, 2006, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
It is up to the masses of Muslims across the globe to improve their lives and adapt to the 21st century in a peaceful and productive fashion. Otherwise the West shall continue to advance and their nations will continue to stagnate. And then when they get resentful and envious enough, someone somewhere will do something very foolish. Once the first truck-bourne nuclear device goes off (whether in front of Wall street, or the London financial district, or the White House), all talk of nice things like reason, restraint and diplomacy will go out the window for good. America (or the UK, or the French, or the Russians, or..) will lash out and the entire Islamic civilization will suffer a catastrophe without precedent, unless you go back to what the Romans did to Carthage. I hope “they” are not so foolish and nihilistic to cause that to happen. As horrible as all this talk of thermonuclear holocausts is, I can understand the hatred many feel. I felt it when I saw the Palestinians, Syrians, Iranians, Egyptians et al. dance in the streets and cheer the events of 9/11. America has actually acted with great restraint given our power. If we had wanted to, if Bush was really the monster everyone seems to think he is, he could have ordered the “football” opened and Mecca, Medina and all the other Arab capitals would have become reduced to component molecules within the flight time of a Minuteman-III or Trident D-5 SLBM. Well, I’d better stop as these are sentiments best left unsaid in the Christmas season.
Posted by: Patrick | December 21, 2006, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
The use of a nuclear weapon to kill even a small number of innocents is a terrorist act. This war will be won by winning the hearts and minds of those who might otherwise become terrorists or wish to do us harm. Casually throwing around nuclear threats demonstrates the same ignorance about the very real terrorist threat that the West has to overcome if we are to minimize the number and impact of future attacks. I pray that there is no attack.
Posted by: Jeremy | December 21, 2006, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Yep, get rid of the Political Correctness and learn to be MEN again. Remember that the countries that forget how to fight and loose the will to fight loose the battle for survival. PC is neutering our western societies.
Posted by: DerRick | December 21, 2006, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Kay |
Good point
We are a nation of laws for the common man as well as the elite.
When we do not force our laws on the elite is where we go wrong.
FEAR has a devistating effect on a free people. We should consider our options before we react.
Iraq is a war because we let it be a war. Now that we are faced with that we are commited. We need to see it through till Victory is won. But it is dumb to be fooled twice. We should bond to see this through then impeach the nuts that put us here.
Posted by: Dino | December 21, 2006, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
I may not be a Christian as people think Christian should be but I know that islam is a false religion. When reading a Bible I see that the anti-Christ teaches peace till it wins over even some of the Elders, but all the time looking for the big kill such as islam is. Many wonderful people claim to be muslims and not for war, even leaving other religions to convert. They are blinded by what our religious leaders have done or falsely stating what they believe.
If I was weak in my belief then I would possibly convert out of fear of death. This will never happen.
Our county is in a mess I think because it does not stand up to what it believes in anymore.It has turn wrong into right in the minds of many. We can start to win this ourselves by taking back are feelings and telling others that it is ok to do so.
Posted by: JTE | December 21, 2006, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Islam is no more a religion of violence today than Christianity was a religion of violence during the Great War, World War 2 and the ensuing Cold War.
Were the English and N.Irish radical Muslims?
Posted by: Scott | December 22, 2006, 12:01 am 12:01 am
If I were president, I would simply tell all muslims that if a weapon of mass destruction is used on a western city, I will in turn destroy Tehran and Damascus. If the people support the gov’t that support terrorism, then they shall be punished along with the gov’t. Isn’t that what the enemy says on their crappy videos? Eye for an eye. that will get their attention. They only understand one thing – force.
Posted by: jihad slayer | December 22, 2006, 12:05 am 12:05 am
It’s very simple what we should do in the US. We need to reform into a kind of “in your face, but to your back” government. We need to wire up the nation and spy on all, but maintain that we only spy in secret, if you have nothing to hide, then why should it matter to you? If you say “c’mon men, blow up the capitol” then you have to go byby. We need to send spies into mosques to see if religious leaders are inciting religious uphevals against the government. We need to make it a law that officals set objectives, and do at least one of them by years end to rid us of corruption. Apeasing never works, in the words of General Patton: “Infantry must move forward to close with the enemy. It must shoot in order to move…. To halt under fire is folly. To halt under fire and not fire back is suicide”.
Just apply the quote to our government.
Posted by: Rob the smart one | December 22, 2006, 12:06 am 12:06 am
FK
Martial law could start at any preseved threat. What does that do to freedom and freedom loving people? That is what the elite want–any preseved threat.
Guess where that puts us?
They want us to resist. Only one way-Protest with thousands of like minded people. Like the Viet Nam. Americans turned that around and ended the deaths of our young sent in harms way for the bankers War.
Posted by: Dino | December 22, 2006, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Let’s put the “understanding” them philosophy crap to bed. There is only one thing you need to understand about what they think: convert to Islam, or die. Trying to placate them will never work. The only options are profiling and removing them from your borders, and bombing (with conventional weapons), the infrastructure of any country that supports them. Any country can be made impotent by destroying key infrastructure sites, and even the terrorists in those countries rely on that infrastructure to some degree to be effective.
Posted by: RJ | December 22, 2006, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Too afraid to take decisive action because of political correctness. That’s what this is all about.
Posted by: Chris | December 22, 2006, 12:50 am 12:50 am
You should all read “America Alone” by Mark Steyn, maybe it will clear some thing up for you confused liberals.
Posted by: Addie | December 22, 2006, 1:04 am 1:04 am
where are all the supposedly “peaceful” Muslim leaders speaking out against these radical nuts.I keep reading that its only a very few of these radicals who want world domination,but I dont ever read or hear any of the “true muslims’ condeming them.
Posted by: Bill | December 22, 2006, 1:21 am 1:21 am
American males…stand up and be counted as men again! You country needs you!
Posted by: BenThyar | December 22, 2006, 1:27 am 1:27 am
suckers. sept 11 was an inside job. wake up pretty please
Posted by: kyle more | December 22, 2006, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Britain has turned into a police state. London is the city in the world with the largest amount of surveillance cameras. They are restricting free speech, introducing mandatory fingerprinting and issuing ID-cards. The government wants to track vehicles with GPS and Tony Blair even tried to pass a law that would abolish Parliament. In the US, demonstrations now equal terrorism. The Victory Act made sure of that. Free Speech Zones, rendition, torture of american citizens, sentence without trial…
Can’t you people see what is happening? I am seriously the only person seeing what the West is turning into?
Posted by: librejustitia | December 22, 2006, 3:00 am 3:00 am
BOOGEY BOOGEY BOO!!
Be so very afraid. That’s what this is all about.
Posted by: rusty shackleford | December 22, 2006, 3:18 am 3:18 am
how about cuddling and loving these terrorists? Is it because I said something different that I can’t post?
Posted by: cugel | December 22, 2006, 4:49 am 4:49 am
Ken writes “Ok, but here’s the rub … “who” do you propose killing, and “where” do you suggest dropping your bomb? I guess we could invade another random country to “send a message.” I think that message is already getting through.” This is a very good point, because it shows that the enemy is much more dangerous than the Germans of WWII. At least we knew where they were. An enemy within using psychology and attacks is much more dangerous than anything we have ever faced.
Posted by: John | December 22, 2006, 4:50 am 4:50 am
Very coincidental… last night I’ve seen the movie ‘Dirty War’. It’s about a strike on London with a dirty bomb. Man, it scares the hell out of me. I didn’t sleep. I pray it will never happen for sake of mankind, no matter what religion. We are busy exterminating each other.
Posted by: Danny from Holland | December 22, 2006, 7:39 am 7:39 am
One would think London and the UK would get a pass from terrorists because of the English side of Aljazeera. I don’t get the thinking of these terrorists.
It is true the UK is in Iraq. I guess that’s the problem. Until Arabs learn to get along with each other, Example: Gaza, all Arabs, including Palestinians, are getting nowhere.
Posted by: Dolly | December 22, 2006, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Terrorism crosses borders as easily as the wind. The only way to stop it is to get those in the Muslim world to assist us. Since they appear to be rather “soft” on the issue we need to heighten their attention. Informed them, and the world, loudly and clearly. If we are hit with a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon the city of Mecca will simply cease to exist. Period.
If they want to keep their “holy” city as a place to pray and not a glow in the night then they need to help us root out this scum that pollutes their religion.
Posted by: Tom | December 22, 2006, 11:03 am 11:03 am
We need to just get out. If we get out they will fight each other instead and hopefully minimize the threat for us. Just look at Palistine. They are full of hate and will take it out on whoever they can even if it’s with each other (thier brothers as they so say). We need to tell them we are leaving and will bother them no more, but if they attack us again after we leave them alone then we are going to hold them and thier government responsible for thier actions and put some of these fancy jets and missiles to work at full force. It is thier governments responsibility to stop these terrorists operating in their own countries and if they continue turning a blind cheek they are just as guilty (Pakistan). Lets seal our borders, start mass production of Ethonol and maybe tap into a couple of OUR oil wells and get out of there.
Posted by: JASON | December 22, 2006, 11:14 am 11:14 am
The terrorist are here and here to stay until we all realize their threat. Day to day I bet most Americans, English, and many other citizens of their countries do not think of what will happen today, will a plane drop from the sky or a suicide bomber come into my office space. Those here to protect us the Royal Armed Forces and the United States Armed Forces and their respective Governments are constantly thinking of this each day they wake and go to the “office” whichever it may be. Dropping bombs or standing up to them or ignoring them is not the answer. We all involved must be strategic and calculating when fighting this war. WWII and the IRA in their days whether countries fighting one another of individuals it was still leaders of their thoughts that hated us and wanted to get rid of all of us. So we may not drop the bomb or have guys and gals shipped off constantly to foreign lands, what we need to do as a World looking and praying for Peace is to support our Governments and those in Harms Way that have choosen to protect our Freedoms throughout the world. What drives me nuts is that many people have the so called “answer” and spew it out on these websites or the news but are any of them running for office or enlisting or helping those who are trying to solve the problem? I expect the Governments to do the job we have asked them to and I will trust them for I had the freedom. And if I do not agree than I need to keep my mouth shut or run for office.
Posted by: ALYSIA | December 22, 2006, 11:28 am 11:28 am
How about the West finally stops meddling in Middle Eastern affairs to stop the increase in hatred of the West. They wouldn’t love us, but if we finally showed respect to the nations of the Middle East (yes even though they are Muslim i know it may be hard for many to understand) then things would stop getting worse. “Where is the love?”
Posted by: Andrew | December 22, 2006, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I say drop lobster bisque on the entire middle east.
Posted by: Clay C | December 22, 2006, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Nice to see that at least the majority of people understand that you can’t use nukes because there really is no “place” to actually nuke in the current situation.
The only practical use of nuclear weapons in the war on terror is their deterrent effect against STATE sponsored terrorism.
Would the threat of using nuclear weapons have any practical impact against a state-less Al Qaeda operative? Of course not. But one of the reasons Iranian sponsored groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas have avoided attacking U.S. interests is because Iran is well aware of the dangers of U.S. retaliation. The only other possible benefit would be if the U.S. explicitly notified nation’s such as Pakistan that give sanctuary to Al Qaeda that if we were attacked with a WMD that we would retaliate against them. Would that still stop Al Qaeda? No. It may however, nudge Musharraf and the Government in the way of stopping its implicit support of terrorists in that country. Of course the downside is that if we made that threat, we may very well have to carry it out and then we’d have to deal with the anger and hatred from the rest of the world if we did so.
Posted by: Dave | December 22, 2006, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
The 9/11 attacks and the London 7/7 bombings were both inside jobs, perpetrated by US and British governments and intelligence agencies to promote their bogus “War on Terror,” which is nothing more than a naked grab for oil.
Posted by: Gregory F. Fegel | December 22, 2006, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Eat and drink for tomorrow we die. Seriously people stop being a bunch of cowards, you have more of a chance of dying choking on chicken wing than a terrorist attack. Work hard, enjoy life, live a good life it’s all you can do, anything can kill you at anytime. Turning the USA or Britain into a fascist police state isn’t the answer.
“He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither”
-Ben Franklin
Posted by: Mike D | December 22, 2006, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Tell all Islamic countries if they allow Al Qaida to continue to operate and Al Qaida succeeds detonating a weapon of mass destruction on a city, then we will drop the bomb on the most holiest site of the Islamic World….MECCA
Posted by: Squirrel | December 22, 2006, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
You patsies are being brainwashed by this ‘war on terror’. It is a ploy to make you slaves of big government/business industrial complex that Ike warned us about and Kennedy was ready to expose. Sheeple is what they call you.
Posted by: mikey357 | December 22, 2006, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
To those who say US policy causes terrorism- What did Clinton do to “cause” Kenya, Tanzania, USS Cole, World Trade Center 1993? Weakness invites terrorism. Study a little history before you make an ass of yourself.
Posted by: Paul | December 22, 2006, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
As a direct result of ABC News reporting this my sister has left London a day earlier than planned and is now thankfully safe. She will not be returning to London until either the plot is stopped or heaven forbid it takes place.
British Citizens are still not being told about this threat on any of their media, and are having to rely on foreign news agencies to allow us to make informed choices and decisions about what we do. That is the scary thing, that the Government have decided not to let us be aware of the threat.
Posted by: Chris | December 22, 2006, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
This *is* about oil, don’t kid yourself. This is the last great resource war; it’s global and it’s a war no one will win. We’ve brought it on ourselves with our gluttony and short-sightedness. The world will be a very different place in the not-so-distant future.
Posted by: Brandon | December 22, 2006, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
england is where the bombs should be dropped as repay for the misery you have inpaled on the world since time begun
Posted by: irish | December 22, 2006, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
What is all this nonsense about using nuclear weapons?
I’m all for justice and revenge as well as use of the military where necessary. But a nuke? What, do you drop enough to level a country the size of Iraq or Syria? Then, do you seriously think no one else will feel the effects of nuclear fall-out and all else that would follow?
There are some dangerous thinking people right here, much less 3,000 or 10,000 miles way.
Posted by: gus | December 22, 2006, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Where would I drop the bomb? I would drop the bomb on Iran and North Korea.
Posted by: Joe | December 22, 2006, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
These terrorists want us to stop any attacks, air raids on their holiday of Ramadan. Then they are threatening us on our holiday of Christmas. When is the world going to understand these people are not going to be tolerant…not the extremists.
Posted by: James | December 22, 2006, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Kick all the Muslims out! Can’t they see what’s going on? The best way to defeat an empire is from within. In America, they’ll try politically and with the aid of the law. In Britain, they have the balls to publicly display their hatred. No matter how nice you are to them, they will not show the same. Their values are different than ours. Ours is ‘do onto others as you would like done unto yourself’. Theirs is ‘do onto others as others have done in the past’. I don’t hate muslims, but I do hate Islam.
Posted by: flucero219@msn.com | December 22, 2006, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
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Well you just brought a bunch of liberal idiots into Washington who think this War on Terror is not our problem. How soon we forget 9-11-2001! Gee, maybe you folks who voted for these non-military supporters were drunk this past November.
Posted by: alex | Dec 21, 2006 2:10:48 PM
Alex, do you mean those liberal idiots that are replacing the conservative idiots that could not start fast enough with attacking Iraq instead of going after the 911 culprit which is in Pakistan/Afghanistan and where the NATO (you know , the organization that mr Bush thought was absolete) is now trying to finish what you started ?
Posted by: Joey | December 23, 2006, 12:30 am 12:30 am
If you are afraid, they win. If you change one goddang thing about your life for these fools, they win.
If the US does not stop and realize they need to stop forcing their values on other nations, this crap will continue.
American and britans are paying a price for their own bullying. Change the foreign policy and we all win. Put away the cowboy hat and 6 shooter bush, we all see you were wrong. Nuff said.
Posted by: John | December 23, 2006, 3:06 am 3:06 am
If terrorists realy gonna attack, why were the borders of USA wide open on Sep 12 and still are today? Why are there terror training drills of same location and time as these attacks?
If you have any brains you would realize that the war on terrorrism cannot physically be won. How would we win it? Will there be a day when an American soldier will have officially killed the last ‘terrorist’? Ofcourse not. The war is desgined to last for a long time, and im not saying that, the Penatagon memos have said that long before the war even started.
Posted by: papa | December 23, 2006, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Can you all not see they are fear-mongering. They want you to be sheep. Do you think its a coincidence the police were running the exact drills that happened that morning, just like 9/11, and two unmarked cars rerouted the bus to the place it exploded. Wake up people.
Posted by: Chad | December 23, 2006, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Boy, I’m glad I’m not a paranoid conspiracy laden liberal.
Posted by: Gary | December 24, 2006, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Actually, the Qaedist leaders are quite afraid. You don’t see them leading the charge now, do you? UBL doesn’t wear a strap-on bomb, never had, never will.
One day they will do something enormously stupid to us, and then they will have to be put down, probably with thermonuclear weapons, to set an example. None of you like hearing this, but that’s just the way it is. Democracy isn’t a suicide pact, after all.
Posted by: section9 | December 25, 2006, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Hmmm… so is this our Christmas miracle? No attack… spend all your money to celebrate!!
Posted by: Doug | December 29, 2006, 11:12 am 11:12 am
So after we’ve nuked all our “enemies” and the earth is uninhabitable, I guess we could say we were right??
Posted by: Ron | December 29, 2006, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
I believe the government warnings as much as I believe Pat Robertson can predict terror attacks. Lame.
Posted by: Doug | January 3, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Well, looks like MI6 couldn’t successfully stage another attack and blame it on the fabricated “Al Qaeda”. That is a miracle.
Posted by: John | January 4, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
This was an example of irresponsible journalism. It hurts the already faltering credibility of news agencies.
Posted by: Alan | January 4, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
What everyone seems to be forgetting is that terrorism is a response to our oppressive foreign policies. Terrorists are animals, yes, but like it or not, we are to blame for their existence. Like Osama bin Laden said, Al Qaeda has no beef with Sweden. The way to end terrorism is to fix our broken foreign policies by curbing our unsustainable consumption. If we do not, the War on Terror will span generation after generation as we cannot keep up with the terrorists’ birthrates, and will most likely end in a nuclear conflagration. Killing and hunting terrorists is only a short-term solution. It cannot succeed in the long run and should be the primary focus of the military, not American citizens, who should instead be demanding sweeping social change from their elected officials. That is the only solution to terrorism: period. Beating the drums for endless war (which the military-industrial complex is only too happy to provide, by the way) is a betrayal of future generations. Ending our addiction to oil would be a good place to start.
-Paul Ronco
Posted by: Paul Ronco | January 6, 2007, 2:50 am 2:50 am
My heart goes out towards the victims of the Christmas 2006 bombings..
Oh wait, it turns out it was just another load of Reids scaremongering crap.
Posted by: Jonathan Campbell | March 4, 2007, 8:21 am 8:21 am