ABC News Exclusive: Murder in a Teapot

It makes you feel sorry for the Russians because they just can’t seem to do anything positive anywhere. Everything they touch turns to garbage. They cannot forget the past and yet they have learned nothing from it. Old grudges remain strong, lingering hatefulness intrudes on everything, they’ve made no progress at all. What a shame.

…A “hotspot on a teapot” almost sounds like a children’s rhyme, until one remembers it is the 1st. example of ‘nuclear terrorism’.
This American citizen, (who can’t find employment despite high school/college/trade school diplomas, a decorated 22yr. paramedic career & survival, s/p 1World Trade Ctr.!!), would have thought that such an incident would have been performed at the direction of the ‘sociopaths’ in the white house, (G. Bush & Co.)… Like ‘sputnik’, the russians appear to have beaten America to the punch, (…er, ah…’sip’?), yet again…

Its obvious they it was “state sponsored” since they have been so uncooperative in the investigation. I think the world should speak up on this matter and not sit idle as they have thus far

How many lies can one article contain?
Litvinenko was never a spy.
The fact that polonium was delivered in the hotel teapot, which remained in use at the hotel, shows that either alleged assasins or British officials are stupid beyond believe. Why did a state-sponsored assasin, who is a millionaire, use a hotel teapot and then left his murder weapon at the scence of the crime?

logic says this whole story is a sham
1) person dies of radiation poisoning
2) how hard is it to seal of the area go in with gager counters and find the hot spots?
3) this reeks of a frame up. or False Flag

If Iranian intelligence conducted a botched
assassination that resulted in 128 people being exposed to Polonium 210, is there any doubt that we would hear a Presidential speech tonight denouncing this as state-sponsored terrorism and announcing the start of air strikes? Shows the value of already having a nuclear arsenal, I suppose…

This is about Putin rolling back the reforms Russians worked hard for. Like Hugo Chavez, he’s becoming a menace to the world using Oil to blackmail first former Soviet countries, and we’ll be next. Despite the sheer insanity of doing so, he builds the facilities and provides the materials making it possible for the Iranians to build nuclear weapons. He backs Syria and North Korea with material. And why? So that he can re-gain the territorial control lost by the Soviet Union. He’s playing Russian Roulette with the future of humanity just so he can feel like a powerful Comrade Soviet again. Litvinenko is just a symptom of Putin’s growing arrogance, what he’s telling us is “I can reach you anywhere, do as I say or you die for your freedom”. The answer to the worlds insane regimes is to eliminate the need for oil: Stop funding these insane and unstable people with our pounds and dollars. Then we’ll see how far Comrade Chavez and Comrade Putin get, when the Capitalist money they ‘hate’ so much no longer funds their governments.

Just because the Soviet Union collasped does not mean that the Russians have changed. Like everywhere else, the name on the door may change, but the national goals remain the same. And the tatics to acheive those goals.

What?! You feel sorry for the Commies for their lack of progress?! Are you kidding me?! The Russians (as well as the Iranians, Syrians, N. Koreans and Chavez) are the problem. Putin desires a dictatorship (as Chavez has implemented) and has even alluded to such by asking for an end to term limits. Additionally, he sells missile defense systems to Iran under the guise they are strictly for defense purposes (why is he helping the world’s No. 1 menace in defending himself?). Don’t forget Putin is ex KGB and Russia’s obstructionistic acts in the UN Security panel in attempting to protect Iran, N Korea and Saddam all the while having their hand in every cookie jar. Russia is an enemy of State again, lurking under the radar just like China. They love the fact all the world’s attention is focused on the small loudmouths and not themselves and their efforts to undermine everything we attempt to do to protect
peace in a time of Islamic Fascism.
Mr. unemployed paramedic needs to quit lanquishing in self pity. There are plenty of jobs out there – just ask one of the spanish speakers.
Sincerely,
D. Baugh, BBA, MBA, CFP

The media loves this story. All may be true what is said in this new interesting story. I agree with Former Democrat article with these further clarifications. I believe that FSB is also used in foreign countries as well. I compare the FSB with a mix of the US CIA and FBI; 2 departments. I live here in moscow so I am more or less familiary. While Litv worked for the FSB about 10 years ago it seems that he worked more like a federal undercover cop. Doesnt seem that he really worked in the foreign services (even till his death apparently he didnt speak any foreign lang including english…sort of a min requirement). One thinks of a spy as someone who blends into the background (a guy who doesnt speak a local language is hardly that). In fact it seems that he violated the law about 10 years ago and also his employment obligations to an extent that they jailed him. It is my understanding that he escaped jail and sought refuge in the UK. So to be fair he was not an ex-KGB spy…but rather an
“unemployed fugitive from justice / ex-undercover Russian cop.” I think calling him an ex spy is great name since it sounds more sexy and surely helps boost ratings!! Keep up the good propoganda!

Why do people insist on turning any topic into an attack on Bush. Let’s just say it, Bush is guilty of poisoning a Russian spy in Britain. He is guilty of blowing up the Trade Center. Heck, if we try hard enough, we can probably find a connection between Bush and the killing of Jesus. Quit making everything a political attack. Why not use this space to actually discuss the article that is being presented.

If you had read the earlier BBC reports on the case you would know that the fact that Polonium was discovered at all was a near miracle. It is incredibly difficult to detect, and though people knew he had been poisoned it was highly unlikely due to the rare nature of polonium that this would have been identified.
It nearly was a ‘perfect’ murder – but the Russians underestimated the Brits – and it has blown up terribly in their face.

This entire case is HIGHLY SUSPECT- all you need to do is have some polonium and sprinkle it around and you have a murder weapon.
One very obvious thing being overlooked is how convenient it is to have bad press for russia right now and also- how EASY it is to fake evidence in this case..just contaminate it with polonium and it suddenly is accepted as a murder weapon.
The ignorance in these comment responses is astounding.
First nuclear act of terrorim my ass- the first nuclear terrorist act was hiroshima and nagasaki.
Russia is not staffed by an alien race that uses special tactics that the west would never stoop to.
Contrarywise- they learned these underhanded tactics from the west.
Putin is murderous but THe bush administration is a global terror organization with no equal- their brutality and black operations are the biggest crime being committed on this planet today. How ironic we still see fit to compare ourselves to russia as moral superiors!!
about a million dead people since bush came into office beg to disagree!!!!

Of course, it would be easier to denounce Russian perdidy if Bush hadn’t made our own country the world’s leading terrorist and pariah state. Y’know, it’s hard to complain about international diplomatic offenses when you’ve invaded another country for no good reason, want badly to invade another, and made it clear that you don’t respect virtually any of the others. Thanks again, George W.

Exceptionally said Richard Williams. Kudos!

Read “Origins of the Fourth World War” by J.R. Nyquist. It will open your eyes and you’ll see just how serious the threat of Russia/China/communism is. There is so much ignorance out there. Just knowing that Russia has stronger and MANY more nukes than the U.S. and that China is economically independent from the U.S. (capitalist yet not capitalist) should make you shudder. Don’t believe all the conspiracy theories about the “fascist American imperialists.” The truth is the U.S. is a weak and crumbling country at this point in time, and millions and millions of westerners are going to die since it is far too late to turn back. You can call me a fatalist if you’d like, but I know it’s the truth. I personally am training to be a survivalist. Imagine a dozen Katrinas for every nuclear bomb dropped or biochemical weapon used. To those who will mock me and these words I only answer this: Cease in dacadence and prepare or be doomed. WW3 is going to be the ugliest war man has ever seen.

(Applause for D. Baugh)
Well said!
From an Conservative American degreed electronic engineer.

I wonder if the British investigators have determined who became ‘hot’ from drinking out of the ‘hot’ teapot? I wonder if children, elderly and or infirmed drank from this teapot; I wonder what the subtle symtoms and longterm effects of drinking from this teapot are like?
IMHO the perpetrators of this crime should be pursued with significant resources and “vigor” so as to better the chances of isolating them and naming them publically; criminals, terroists, like this must be found and stopped.

If the teapot had been in service, how hard would it have been to have someone contaminate a clean teapot some time after the investigation to throw off the investigators?
To me, that seems to be a simpler explanation than incompetent investigators.
For what purpose I have no idea.

Polonium-210 isn’t something one can buy at a corner drugstore. So no matter how you slice it, I’m convinced it was “state-sponsored” at some level, if not all the way.

Oh those russians

It seems Liberals like calling names and hurl insults. Conservatives debate the issues. My college Prof. once told us Karl Marx is the grandaddy of Liberalism and Lenin the father of modern day Liberalism.
I think about this sage advice everytime a Liberal opens their mouth.

It’s funny to see some of you talk trash to one another without having the ability to form proper, complete sentences.

The Russians have suffered a thousand years of oppression, intrigue and violence against their own people. How could anybody believe that the trend with end with Putin? There is every indication that this kind of activity is likely to get better, not worse. Observe Moscow’s close links with Iran and its weapons of mass destruction programs and you get a clearer picture.

…Russia and Mexico would be wealthy without their corruption…guess that’s why we have become a debtor nation in the last six years…

J. Edgar Hoover once famously said, “Never trust a communist. They’re the worst.” And you want to know something… J. Edgar was RIGHT!!!

If you think that the so-called “end of the cold war” changed the thinking at the Kremlin one iota, you’re naive.
They just don’t have the resources they once did to prosecute their goals.

OK, if the tea pot thoery is correct, then they’d have to charge Dmitry Kovtun as well. Polonium was found in Kovtun’s flat in Hamburg – he was there BEFORE he met Litvinenko at the Millenium. So, if that’s true, should we call this a CONSPIRACY THEORY?

“Especially when it is so easy to trace.” Wrong! It’s very hard to detect, unless one knows what specifically to look for. The polonium was detected only ~2 weeks after the poisoning, just few days before the death. And it took at least another ~2 weeks to find the source, the teapot. So for almost a month the teapot has still been used in the hotel.

The fact that polonium was delivered in the hotel teapot, which remained in use at the hotel, shows that either alleged assasins or British officials are stupid beyond belief. Why did a state-sponsored assasin, who is a millionaire, use a hotel teapot and then left his murder weapon at the scene of the crime?

I am retired now but I would not have hired the person that blames someone else for his failures.
Would you hire him?

It’s payback for the fake rocks MI6 was using in Moscow.

Why is this even an American issue? The Brits brilliantly caught someone red handed, someone who used millions of dollars of polonium to poison one man who was a critic of Putin. Put this in context of the murdered Russian reporter (who was exposing the Chechen massacre). Add in the gas/oil threats with the Ukraine/Belarus and Putin doesn’t seem to be the “swell” guy anymore

I don’t understand how Bush looked into Putin’s eyes in Crawford, Texas, and proclaimed him a wonderful man. Texas charm? Boy, was he wrong. Putin is a psychopath, a stone cold killer.
This is why Nancy Pelosi missed her next botox appointment to travel to Iraq. She wants us to know that she understands.

Ah,makes you want to return to the good old days of the cold war.Staring at russian tanks along the East German border in the snow.Tracking rusky ballistic missle subs in the Barents Sea.Peace is so very boring….Don’t you worry folks.Given our moronic foreign policies it’s all probably comin back-bigger and badder than ever.Makes ya kinda tear up dont it.

Everybody looking for someone to blame. My dad was the head of the east bloc unit of the Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress, all during the Cold War. Their biggest “client” was the DoD, and my dad and all his staff were linguists – he spoke German and Russian. He was appalled when the Berlin Wall came down, and Reagan chopped away at the whole intelligence infrastructure. That’s why we don’t have Arabic speakers today. And we don’t understand what’s going on in Russia now. We just set ‘em on the back burner and said they’re no longer a threat. A well-funded military with a small intelligence infrastructure won’t do it.

the presence of radioactive Polonium 210 in tobacco has been known for years, say > 30 years

They say Lugovoy laughed when he was told he is a suspect and can be a subject for extradiction…
That laughs good who laughs last…
(russian proverb)

Alpha radiation is very detectable. The alphas from Polonium can be detected with a photomultiplier tube-type detector (same as used for neutron detection, though with a different target material.

Of course the worst poison is the malignancy of desire created in the human mind by the lust for power.
Like the Liberal elite media and university intellegencia who have eagerly betrayed freedom, democracy, the Iraqi people and the whole Western world, in their obsessive quest for petty revenge against George Bush – and the desire to regain possession of the ring of power.

Use some thinking here – since they discovered that Litivinenko INGESTED Polonium, wouldn’t it then make sense to go through with a fine toothed comb every possible vessel that could have contained and delivered the poison to him??? It was down to the sushi restaurant and the Pine Bar, couldn’t they have quarantined all the utensils which were in use that day, the glasses, pots, plates, teapots, cups, etc.??? Why would it take months to locate this teapot, and why only NOW?

Everyone give the person next to you a hug. Love your fellow human being.

I have to scream when I read these comments blaming the USA for the world’s trouble. Blame someone else (usually the big guy) and don’t take responsibility yourself. Time to put the blame where it belongs.
IE. The Russians are the cause of the poisoning. Stop crying, stop blaming others, stop smoking joints, and start acting like a responsible adult.

Here’s my theory: Kovtun smuggled the P210 from Moscow to London, leaving incriminating radiation traces during his transit stay in Germany. In London he gave it to Lugovoi, who left a few more traces at the places he stayed at before Nov. 1st, and who then put it in the teapot served to Litvinenko. Only question is, on whose orders did they act? Could be FSB insiders, Putin himself, or maybe exiled oligarch Berezovsky. After all, Lugovoi was Berezovsky’s chief of security

Sounds like ‘Frano’ is just one more in a continually growing segment of the populace who must blame there own failures and shortcomings on someone else. And the popular fall guy with all of today’s hate-filled liberals is GWB: “It’s Bush’s Fault!!” The word responsibility is quickly fading from our vocabulary. More and more people think they are ‘owed’ something. Oh and BTW, I wouldn’t trust the U.S.S.R. (sorry, their “fall” was a fraud) any more today than I could 50 years ago…

Some folks have suggested that using a Geiger counter could have solved the situation early on. Po-210 ia an alpha emitter that cannot be detected by a gamma detector like a Geiger counter. It’s true, more specialized equipment could have found the problem, but I believe that its a problem with the quality of the servicers that we asked to look into it.

Many very interesting comments about the crime of killing Mr. Litvinenko and President Putin’s putative involvement. I agree with many of the comments that D. Baugh made but one. He referred to President Putin as an ex-KGB agent. Alas, there is no such thing. Once KGB always KGB, it is like being HIV positive. Lt. Col Putin Reserve is true to his oath that he took when he joined the KGB following law school. Why should anyone be suprised ?

British health officials say some 128 people were discovered to have had “probable contact” with Polonium-210, including at least eight hotel staff members and one guest.
None of these individuals has yet displayed symptoms of radiation poisoning, and only 13 individuals of the 128 tested at a level for which there is any known long-term health concern, officials said.JL

The regime in the Soviet Union/Russia has never reformed itself in any significant way from totalitarian. At best it can be called quasi-totalitarian. They only adopted some cosmetic changes to fool the West. Thus, their recent outrages, such as the killings of Litvinenko, Politkovskaya, the massacres in Chechenia shouldn’t surprise anybody.
They still see the West as a strategic adversary and enemy, despite the diplomatic niceties.
They support Iran and help it in the nuclear field not because of cash need, but because it is a way to counterbalance the Western democracy expansion.
The sooner the West realizes it’s the old soviet entity in new clothes, the better.

Can you spell “closure”? Even if the official story is absurd?

Everyone who turns this into a “Bush Problem” you all should be ashamed at yourselves for your lack of reasoning. Look past your psychopathic hatred of Bush and try to use the brain between your ears and figure out what the real issue is here….Or is your hatred too great to use any reasoning anymore?

Firstly, I believe the “hit” was State ordered. I don’t trust Putin, and I believe Russia is still a great threat to America, as is China, Iran, and some other countries. The list is long of leaders of countries, and maybe some of their citizens, too, who want America, and its people destroyed. They hate America, and what our country stands for – freedom… freedom from oppression. There are many evil leaders out there who want to control the World, but they have to get past America to do it. Good men, like President George W. Bush, want to keep them from succeeding, and I just don’t understand why so many people can’t grasp this fact. We abolished slavery, and we don’t want it to return. These countries are run by evil leaders who want to dictate, who want to enslave, and America, along with its allies, is trying to keep these evil men from destroying civilization as we know it. It’s just that simple. Get it? Got it? Good!
I realize our country is not perfect. We have corruption here, too. But we are free to vote our leaders in, and out. We are free to speak out and disagree with our government. What a wonderful country to live in – it’s my America.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want Putin, Hu Jintao, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or Hugo Chevez, among others, as my President.

WELL< WELL!!!
I thought we was JUST ALL Friends in this der WORLD PA!
I may be a hill billy but even a
idiot could see RUSSIA is not our freinds!!!!!!!!!!

When this case of intrigue began to unravel, I felt that the use of the exotic pulonium-210 fingered an intelligence organization – the GRU, perhaps. But now, looking back, we see 128 people that may have come into contact with the pulonium that was in many areas in and around London, and on several aircraft. That, to me, is not the mark of a very intelligent operation at all. I am still not sold yet on “Russia”, the state.

Save the teapot for the next visit to Putin. If the teapot is pristine and sanitary, there should be no hesitancy in a drink of tea from the same pot. Right?

The one thing that remains troubling is why would russia use such a rare and expensive poison. They could have just as easily used ricin and after learning not to jab it into the persons leg, put it in the tea. He would have died like a bad case of the flu and no one would have checked for it… Lord its cheap… no logic in using something like polonium.

This, if true, is an act of war against England. It is the first nuclear act of terrorism on a Western nation in history. If this is a state act of terrorism from Russia, then the President of the United States and the British Prime Minister should go on television and announce it as an act of war and proceed accordingly. Nuclear terrorism is very serious. A state that is willing to behave this way is extremely dangerous and is quite obviously run by a lunatic.

Does not compute. How does the assassin get the pulonium into the very batch of tea that Litvinenko drinks? Second, a tea pot generally holds more than one cup of tea, so how come several people were not poisoned?

Everyone seems to be blaming the teapot. There are probably hundreds of other similar teapots at the hotel and it would be very hard to match the right teapot to the table, where the target would be seated at.
The assasin would be considered suspicious if they wanted this particular teapot for this table; when there was one already assigned.
Only a few new that the guests will be ordering tea at that particular moment.
How about a tea saturated with Polonium 210-Earl Grey brand, recommended by the Waiter?

I am a white, American Ph.D. but have poor teaching skills (audiences terrify me) and my job prospects are limited. As a graduate student I cleaned houses on the side. During a time of unemployment I cleaned houses. Most Americans are too lazy or proud to get their hands dirty and I’m disgusted by that lazy person who thinks the US government owes him a living. And incidently you can make more money cleaning houses or doing other humble work than as an Americorp worker or some other work-fare government sponsored,indentured servant position. Please, enough of this. I don’t want to hear your complaints about the evil Bush administration and how awful this country is – tell that to the millions who come here illegally. And do what you can to get them out.

Forrester said: I realize our country is not perfect. We have corruption here, too. But we are free to vote our leaders in, and out. We are free to speak out and disagree with our government. What a wonderful country to live in – it’s my America.
Its far from perfect and there is just as much corruption here as in other countries, if not more, its just covered up better. Are you sure that the voting system is not corrupted? Don’t you remember what happened with Gore and Bush in Florida? What about Bush lying about nuclear weapons in Iraq and starting a never ending war on that country? How many countries did America go to war with already? If you go outside of America, you’ll see that nobody there considers America as their friend, and thats scary. I agree with you that it is a great country in a lot of ways, but whats so great or safe about a wonderful country that has so many enemies? Everyday I read news and think, which country America is going to war with next? I think America should stop trying to fix other countries, look at themselves, stay on their land, fix their own problems and this country will be even stronger and better.

Posted by: tfwarner | Jan 27, 2007 12:16:53 AM
A country is not only the sum of its parts, but the sum of its history.
If you want to compare Russia and the US you need only to compare their histories for the last 100years. One example only: Russia has invaded countries after World War II; US has helped finance the recovery of some European countries. Enough?
LOL. Are you serious? America has invaded more countries after WWII than any other country in this world! Yea, then they try to “make up” for it by helping finance the recovery of those countries, basically put their roots in there.

Has anyone ever heard Putin’s ideas about the United States? He’s incredibly ignorant about other cultures and the U.S., in particular. Last time he visited with Bush, he congratulated him on censoring the media, and Bush had to correct him…

To jjones, db, and jessie: Thank you for saying what I have been thinking since I began to read these unbelievable responses to the story. This is the first time I have read articles from this sight. It’s amazing that people are so self-centered and filled with hatred in our world today. The really sad thing is that a person was killed and that is tragic, period. Not that I don’t have opinions about world events, but I try to be a little more objective and listen to both sides of the story before forming my opinion.
No matter what political stance we agree with, everyone is only human and makes mistakes–including Bush, Putin, Scotland Yard, etc.

Whether or not Russia sponsored the attack or not, I agree that Russia and China are the problems that our media spends too little time talking about. Russia has had a broken economy, inability to pay their own scientists (to keep nuclear technology from being “sold” to the highest black-market bidder, etc). Numerous security threats have been documented since the Berlin Wall tumbled down, yet we did little in this country to ensure that Russia’s nuclear technology, let alone their budding “democracy”, were secured in the the post-Cold War era. So the reality is, the Cold War never really ended, except in name only. This is a loss for the Russian people who deserved better, and it remains the “boogieman in the closet” for Americans who were so busy focusing on domestic issues prior to 911 that we really didn’t give a hoot what anyone else was doing with their WMD technology or their politics for nearly 20 years (outside our myopic focus on the Mid East from the 1980s to the present, that is). Consequently, Russia has yet to see the brighter side of capitalism, so it’s no surprise that they haven’t left their old spy vs. spy ways. Democratic “freedom” without food on the table — aka a functional economy — is recipe not for capitalism but for corruption.
Speaking now of our OWN economy…
RE: David
1. U.S. auto sales and home sales are HUGE predictors of the economy. Neither of these “economic indicators” are healthy right now. Ford is reporting the worst year ever. Meanwhile, the real estate market is in the process of tanking. Interest rates are low only to prevent a bad economic situation from getting worse.
2. You say that unemployment is low. Did you know that creative government “accounting” drops the ranks of unemployed Americans after they no longer qualify for unemployment? Say you have been out of work for a year. Say there are 50 million other people like you — out of work and out of unemployment benefits. Now instead of contributing to the unemployment statistics, you and all 50 million like you are simply REMOVED from the unemployment calculations. No figures regarding U.S. employment vs. unemployment rates are accurate for this reason.
3. If our economy is good, why are Gold and other precious metal/hard commodities on the rise? This is a trend indicative of a lack of confidence in paper currency, and it has happened before all major recessions and, most notably, the Great Depression. Unlike years past, however, most of America’s “money” isn’t even worth the price of paper. There’s more digital money than paper currency in existence.
4. Remember 911? Well, one of the reasons the terrorists picked New York was the potential to disrupt the U.S. stock exchange. Temporary though the disruption was, it rendered all those “stock millionaires” worthless. If you can’t trade your shares for hard cash, your wealth exists only on paper.
5. Most recently: China has begun to suggest that it may call in the U.S. reserves it holds. Consider just one too-close-to-home example: China is purported to hold the debts of up to 60 percent of ALL the mortgages in the United States. Also, prior to the invasion of Iraq, Saddam was about to consider the same move away from the U.S. dollar (the currency of choice for the oil trade). Pres. Hugo Chavez, too, has threatened to move over to the Euro. Why does it matter? Because the Euro is not only gaining on the dollar but has left it in the dust. Some experts predict, in fact, that a move away from American currency on the oil market could send our economy into a depression the likes of which have not been seen in this nation’s history.
6. Just a week or so back the Federal Reserve chairman, among other high-level government economists, went on the record warning that our economy, which is trillions of dollars in debt, is headed for an economic brick wall at 90mph. Between the first wave of boomers retiring next year and calling up on Medicaid and the war debt, there’s just no way around higher taxes. President Bush may not issue tax increases during his tenure, but somebody will have to be “the bad guy” in a future administration (indeed, the deficit problem even pre-dates Ross Perot’s presidential bid, but thanks to new and non-stop spending it is now reaching “critical mass”). This isn’t a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s a mathematical issue. One way or another, Peter has to pay the Piper — if not now, later and at higher rates (thanks to inflation and accruing interest). Translation? A “noose” around the American economy as people pay higher taxes, face skyrocketing inflation, and spend less on autos, homes, etc. thereby driving down local tax revenues, and so on and so forth (aka a vicious cycle).
David, if our economy is good, it’s only the calm before the Perfect Storm. The writing is already on the wall for those who care to read it — and better yet, prepare.

David from San Francisco, please spare us the conspiracy rhetoric, and I’d like to see you actually prove that Bush has killed 1 million, I guess I swing more liberal than conservative but you just sound ridiculous. This article isnt about how to connect the dots back to your president, its about an investigation into whether or not Russia poisoned someone who had knowledge that could expose them. Its people like you that give liberals a bad name and cause people like Michael Savage think liberalism is a mental disorder, despite the fact his phrasing is for shock value only.