Jan 23, 2007 3:28pm

Let’s Talk About It

I’m hoping we can spark conversations on this page about what Nightline is covering, how we’re covering it, and what you think about it. I’ll try to do that by dipping into our message boards and responding to some of the lively debate that always seems to be going on over there. So, let’s begin here . John Berman’s report on our January 13th program on the “Quiverful Movement” has triggered several great, ongoing discussions on the board. A little background: Quiverful enthusiasts are fundamentalist Christians who “trust the Lord for family size,” and believe that God’s plan as revealed in the Bible is for married couples to have many children—to “be fruitful and multiply.” They believe birth control is contrary to God’s wishes, and they take their name from Psalm 127:5: "As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them." One viewer, going by the moniker biodiv, has raised an important question. In our time, is it selfish to have so many children? Here’s biodiv’s post: “What amazes me is that the very same people who are so angry by any form of birth control have little if any concern for their natural world. Their only focus is themselves and the propagation of as many people as possible, but care nothing for the destruction now occuring to the environment. Where is the anger regarding the fact that mankind is causing more plant and animal extinctions than in 67 million years. If these folks could look into a crystal ball to see what this world will look like in 50 or 100 years they may think differently.” Now, I’ve got nine brothers and sisters, so I understand the joys (and the stresses) of growing up in a big family. I wouldn’t trade that experience for anything. And I also have personally experienced the sometimes subtle, sometimes not-so-subtle prejudices of some people against those of us from big families. To a certain kind of person, ten kids is a bit, well, gross. Even loony. All my life, I never minded the judgmental comments; I knew the love and truth in our family—and that was enough. But biodiv is raising a serious issue. Can it really be God’s plan for people to populate the world without any regard to the consequences of the sheer number of human beings on the resources of the planet? Can God—who so many of us believe graced men and women with such powerful insights into the human predicament and such ingenuity in addressing it—really not want us to use our wit and will to steward the earth responsibly, whatever that might mean? Are we to be as helpless in the face of our natures as the beasts of the field? Or are we different? Are we empowered—by God Himself, in the view of many believers—to take a more active role in shaping our common destiny? It’s a lively discussion. Thanks to all involved. Join in.

User Comments

How would anyone ever know the wishes of Ba’al (god) as he has no eyes to see, ears to hear or mouth to speak!

Posted by: marie | January 24, 2007, 12:30 am 12:30 am

I tried to hardball Hillary tonight with questions. I agree with you Terry, I think that she is just lucky to have been a First Lady. But she just smoked me. Then I thought that I was going to nail that Barack whatever his name is, but he just slammed dunked me, oh no I am not a racist, and I nearly wet my pants. But I was just lobbing them to McCain and that mercenary general that are on our payroll. And McCain still didn’t sell this surge that I am pushing. God, you know Laura could run in ’08. That would be one great twofer.

Posted by: Charles Gibson | January 24, 2007, 12:49 am 12:49 am

Maybe french people are rude but Americans lack manners. If Americans had manners, french wouldn’t be rude (ok .. as rude.) Americans wanting to visit France should do a bit of homework by learning a little french so they won’t come off as arrogant.

Posted by: French woman :) | January 25, 2007, 12:21 am 12:21 am

” Can it really be God’s plan for people to populate the world without any regard to the consequences of the sheer number of human beings on the resources of the planet?”
–What an obviously prejudiced question! Who says they have no regard or concern for the world and its resources? No, rather most quiverfulls I’ve met make a very conscientious, involved effort to not just pop them out but raise their children to be highly responsible, industrious, more altruistic thiking good people and citizens! If we can have a family raise 5-6, 7 -10, or whatever highly effective healthy individuals then isn’t that better than merely raising 2, if they have that capacity, as do most of these parents I’ve met? They are highly involved with their children’s lives and don’t just settle for letting TV and the status quo dictate their thinking and upbringing! –A good recipe for developing leaders and such! Most are also fairly well off, rarely choosing to tax the social system.
Aside from all this, I’m sure we all can think of many famous people who were hugely influential for the good of this world who wouldn’t have made thier impact if their parents had stopped at 1, 2 or 3 kids, etc.

Posted by: Duncan | January 25, 2007, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Your Sign of the Times logo depicts an incandescent light bulb which wastes energy. To promote energy conservation, shouldn’t that logo be a spiral fluorescent light bulb instead?

Posted by: Jim Andrus | February 20, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

What is going on with the Nightline sign-off light bulb? — Ever since we’ve been told to take out old-fashioned pear-shaped light bulbs and replace them with new energy-saving spiral ones, I’ve wondered what Nightline was going to do with its light bulb sign-off.
Then on Monday 4/30 I noticed for the first time that a spiral bulb was there instead. On Tuesday 5/1 I saw it again. On Wednesday 5/2 I turned the set off too soon to notice. But Thursday (5/3) the old light bulb was back again.
I’m sure there are others who would love to know the back story on this! I’d be very grateful (and impressed) if you could take the trouble to tell us.
(I wrote to Nightline with this question and never got a reply. Could you please give us an answer?)

Posted by: Alene Cisney | May 22, 2007, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

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