Update: Hearing Highlights Vet Tracking Woes
The Department of Veterans Affairs scrapped an early effort to track returning war casualties because it was too expensive to implement, a senior official confirmed today before a congressional panel. ABC News yesterday reported a former VA employee said the department did not implement a 2004 plan that would have ensured injured veterans received timely care and benefits. As a result, some wounded vets have suffered as they waited for disability payments and proper care. News of the program’s shelving prompted outrage from some quarters. "I am not convinced the Veterans Affairs Department is doing its part," said Rep. Harry E. Mitchell, D-Ariz., chairman of the panel, in prepared remarks. Mitchell said he was "deeply troubled" by the report. THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS Blotter Under VA Chief, Effort to Aid Wounded Vets Stalled, Ex-Employee Charges World News Video Insider: Plan to Help Vets Was Shelved in 2005 Click Here to Check Out the Latest Brian Ross Slideshows Dr. Michael J. Kussman, the VA’s acting undersecretary for health, said the program, known as the Contingency Tracking System (CTS), was designed only to handle information related to veterans’ benefits, not their health care, and would have been too expensive to adapt. "It could not meet [the VA's health administration] needs, or even all of [the VA's benefits administration] needs, without significant additional development costs," Kussman said without citing specific figures. Instead, shortly after CTS was scrapped, the department began developing a new program, said Kussman. He did not say when the VA began using that program. Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage. The department is at work on a new program, Kussman confirmed, that would more closely tie VA and Pentagon health information, so records and notes are not lost. His prepared remarks did not include a proposed start date for that program; a VA statement to ABC News yesterday said it was "very near deployment." Kussman also told the panel that VA Secretary Jim Nicholson played no role in rejecting the earlier casualty tracking effort. "This was a programmatic decision — and one not made by the secretary." He did not say who made the call to scrap the program. The department has aided over 6,800 injured or ill soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan so far, Kussman said. Over 23,000 casualties have been logged by the Department of Defense. To ensure they receive the care they need, Kussman said the VA was calling every single wounded soldier to ask if they needed assistance in obtaining medical attention or benefits. A VA spokesman confirmed that "hundreds" of calls have already been made.
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To GW Bush:
This is even worse than Katrina! These are soldiers you ordered in harms way and you have turned your back on them.
You have been a failure at every turn. Why don’t you do the American public a favor…RESIGN!
Posted by: H. L. Greene | March 8, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING HAS BEEN TOO EXPENSIVE FOR OUR TROOPS, FROM DECENT, LIFE-SAVING EQUIPMENT TO TAKING CARE OF THEM AFTER SUFFERING GRAVE INJURIES. I AM TOTALLY ASHAMED OF OUR ADMINISTRATION AND ESPECIALLY OF OUR PRESIDENT. I CAN’T REMEMBER A TIME WHEN WE HAVE HAD SO MANY CROOKED POLITICIANS IN PLACE. I PRAY THAT WE DO EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR HEROES FIGHTING THE WAR AND AFTER THEY COME HOME. WE SHOULD NOT BE AT WAR AND BUSH SHOULD NOT BE OUR PRESIDENT. I PERSONALLY THINK HE NEEDS A FRONTAL LOBOTOMY. HIS POWER TRIP IS KILLING OUR COUNTRIES FINEST.
Posted by: Cheryl J. | March 8, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
The only thing the VA seems to be
good at these days is losing it’s
own agency laptop computers!
So how did anyone expect that
Incompetent Bush Crony & Former
RNC Chairman Political Hack,
Jim Nicholson to set up a more
complicated tracking system?
It’s time Congress force The
Commander in Chief George W Bush
To Fire Sec Of VA Jim Nicholson!
There never will be any improvement
at the VA as long as incompetents
like Nicholson run the show!
Posted by: Ralph | March 8, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
it has always been hard to get help form v.a. they use us, somewhat patch us up,pat us on the head and sendup on our merry way.ww2,korea,vet-nam and now the mid-east are all the same . maybe this time will be better.butt i dought it .once the big wheels huff and pufff.they will put it on back-burner agin .too bad bush and chenney were’t real vet’s butt the were to much of cowards
vet-nam 68
lee
Posted by: leon drouin | March 8, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Someone please tell me what the Democratic Congress is doing? We voted you in, stop wasting time with the hearings we know that the VA is in deep trouble, get off your butts and get going or you will be voted out again in 4 years, wise up! Also, BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED!!
Posted by: Michele | March 8, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
If these problems exist now, they’ve been here for a long time. Reporters have been interviewing troops at this facility for what, 5 years now? Why is this the first they’ve ever made mention of this? Why wasn’t this taken care of 5 years ago?
Besides, what the story doesn’t talk about is how many military hospitals have had to shut down over the last 25 years because of out-sourcing and budget cuts. Most active duty and veterans have the option of receiving care at any number of civilian facilities, but opt to be treated at a military or VA facility, which causes long waits for appointments. In some cases, they do this because the military and VA facilities, run-down as they may be, offer them far better treatment then the ‘civilian’ facilities. Where is the investigation on that side of the story?
Posted by: Slippy | March 8, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Hey !!!
Why is this such a surprize. Iam a Veit Nam vet ,who is 100% disabled and this has been the norm for the last 40 years I know of. It wont change untill poeple who have the benifit of not going to war take care of the promise made to us by Congress and President Bush. (Who lied to the us people and still thinks we can win his Holy war.) So people wake up this will be in the front untill the Irac war is over.
Posted by: albert gauthier | March 8, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Now let me see if I got this right? Only Congress can appropriate money and set the budget. The VA has been grossly underfunded for decades and not one congressman seems to have visited the local VA facility in thier areas. Nor have they tracked down and talked with their woounded Vets in thier districts. It took the Press to discover the deplorable conditions and escallate the code violations and deplorable living conditions of our Vets at the main VA hospital.
Well, congratulations to the Press!
Congress, get off your butts and get to work!
I suspect that the data privacy laws congress has passed, and the negative pressure put on the Government services for developing ‘tracking’ databases
is the main reason the VA gave up their project!
God bless our troops!
Tmblweed
Posted by: tmblweed | March 8, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: tsmit | March 8, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
One of the most positive steps that should be taken is to remove VA and veteran healthcare and benefit funding from the jurisdiction of the Pentagon. We heard David Chu express remorse for veteran care shortcomings, and yet if you review the record, Mr. Chu has opposed every veteran benefit and has gone out of his way to increase healthcare costs to all veterans (the latest is the Pentagon’s attempt to institute massive premiums for Tricare users). Any emotion coming out of the Pentagon is pure crocodile tears. When it comes to funding weapon systems or veterans, the weapons win everytime. As soon as the media shifts focus it will be worse than back to normal. Bush has already proposed VA budget reductions after the 2008 elections. Go figure.
23 years. Fly Navy!
Posted by: Roger | March 8, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I’m a Vietnam Vet and I don’t see anything different so far about how the VA functions.With the great number of veterans now returning home with severe Post Traumatic Stress and brain injuries I hope the VA will handle them better than they did the Nam vets.Many Vietnam vets fought the VA for 20 years,some are still fighting for benefits.It was common practice back then for VA doctors to diagnose PTSD vets with personality disorders and other unrecognized conditions that the VA did not recognize for purposes of disability benefits.Then, as now, the VA was under funded.Most vets with mental disorders just quit fighting after a time.The VA makes that kind of fight very difficult and mentally and physically draining for the veteran.The appeals process for denied claims was a joke (but not funny).We were told then that we could not sue the government for disability compensation and that our only recourse was the Washington Veterans Appeals Board.
Fact is you can sue the government for disability compensation.You must first file your claim for a service connected disability rating.If your claim is denied you must appeal the decision to the Appeals Board in Washington.If Washington denies your claim you may then sue in Federal court.I hope tings are different now but if not maybe this information will be of some help to someone.
Brian
Posted by: Brian | March 8, 2007, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Additional funding to the VA isn’t expedited because VA Secretary Jim Nicholson sits in front of Congress and says the VA has plenty of money and plenty of staff and provides the best care in the world.
Posted by: TBISoldiermom | March 8, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
General Kiley is still around? Nothing else needs to be said. The President by allowing him to avoid a full court martial for derelection of duty is a lack of leadership its self. Mr. President, it’s time to lead not appoint more commissions.
Posted by: Barry | March 8, 2007, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
I am a veteran suffering from TBI (traumatic brain injury). I go to the Richmond, VA VA hospital. I was referred to their neurology service on an outpatient basis by my VA primary care physician in Jan. of this year. My appt. was postponed twice. I was finally seen in March. When I saw the doctor (One of the TBI doctors) I was told that the hospital had been on a “hiring freeze” until recently. Is this what we are to expect from the VA? bUSH SENDS HEALTHY PEOPLE TO A WAR THAT IS WRONG THEN WON’T FUND THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS NECESSARY TO CARE FOR THEM AFTER THE BATTLE! The broblems with the military and VA health care systems do not fall on any one man but on systemic failure to fund these health care systems. As a 100% service conneceted disabled veteran it makes me feel that my country’s leaders have used me, abused me, and then thrown me on the trash heap.
Posted by: Kraig Cummings | March 8, 2007, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
As a soldier’s mom, I’m so disappointed and upset I could scream that they are doing this to my kid and others! Even the people in office that were supposed to be on the soldier’s sides, the one’s visiting Walter Reed and other veteran’s hospitals did nothing. How come they couldn’t see this happening? Did they bother talking to our soldiers more than the couple min. or were they only there for a photo op? Every one acts like this is something new, yet it’s been going on for years, long before the Iraq or Afghanistan wars. Our Vietnam, Korean and WW veterans have experienced it for years.
The US has lost so much over this administration. When are we going to going to tell this crooked bunch of leaders “We’ve had it with you! We the citizens are not going to take it any longer!”?
Posted by: gail | March 8, 2007, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Why are u guys mad at the president…..Its the senate and house that funds the VA, not the president……….it was the same thing during the vietnam war and korea and WWII………and that was also funded by the democrats………so dont get mad at the Republicans………the libs are in control now…….lol
Posted by: sams | March 8, 2007, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
I can’t believe not wanting to spend the money for a system when there is so much waste and corruption for contracts & contractors in Iraq and for Katrina. The money they could recover from the waste & corruption would probably buy several systems to replace the outdated and cumbersome systems some of the agencies currently have. The Walter Reed stories will continue to surface for a long time……and I’m waiting to hear the waste & corruption stories that will come from the work that is currently being and will be done on Walter Reed and other military hospital facilities.
Posted by: Dave | March 8, 2007, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
The Iraq war and this administration is not the point, it just happens to be the particular cloud that is raining right now. The weather has been around forever. Read the comments posted by Vietnam Vets. Too many people in charge have passed the buck for too long. This is greed and selfishness. While the standing President can do more than any other single person to light a fire, the Senators and Representatives, even Governors, can also do something. The fact is, no one is willing to do what it takes to make it right. In the meantime, vets suffer. Way to go, all politicians.
Posted by: You're Missing The Point | March 9, 2007, 2:27 am 2:27 am
I’m currently seeking VA compensation for a mental condition that worsened severely three years after I was discharged from the military for a misdiagnosis of the same issue. It was at the time deemed not a disability. Since then I’ve received electric shock treatments and have been receiving social security disability ever since. The claim is sitting in front of the Board of Veteran Appeals as we speak, and you can be sure, I’m taking it to an attorney if they decide to deny it.
Posted by: Jay | March 9, 2007, 4:00 am 4:00 am
The underlying problem is that vets are effectively barred from suing the V. A. because lawyers’ fees are limited to $10 per case by a post War Between the States law that has repeatedly upheld as valid by the U. S. Supreme Court.
Posted by: Laurence Tenney | March 9, 2007, 5:59 am 5:59 am
The VA system has always been a crap shoot. With 350,000 essentially “tenured” employees that can not be fired.
The whole thing should be shut down and a Card or Voucher be given to the Vets and they can get appropriate care at which ever facility has the best service for that ailment or locally if so desired. Close to where they live or wherever the best service and care is. Let them choose the best service for them with the Vouchers.
Walter Reed was scheduled to be shut down anyway and the maintenance funds dried up last I heard. But maybe that changed , but at one time is was on the Base Closing list.
Posted by: mrbill | March 9, 2007, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Being a disabled veteran and having dealed with the VA Medical System. The basic flaw in the system is lack of funding. Lack of staffing of personnel leads to less than top quality health care and low morale for devoted staff members. My view, if possible do not go to the va for quality health care.But the day will come when you will receive a coffin size flag and a letter from the president with no hassle.
Posted by: Obed Elland | March 9, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
5 years LATER the Pentagon final accepts the real needs. These Pentagon officals need to be fired!
Posted by: Pentagon Planners should be fired NOW! | March 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am
I’m a 100% service connected Vet perm. and total and I have been denied medical care and procedures that were ordered by doctors. I have asked for a Congressional investigation for denial of medical care and so far the request has fell on deaf ears. The problems of Veterans could be solved if all of these elected officials were thrown out of office and new blood was allowed to flow through congress and the house of reps. They allocate money and never check to see how it is being used or who is using it. A dog is treated more humanely than Veterans are, and nothing will ever change untill the old F__Ts that have been in Washington for so long they can tell you the color of every brick in the walkway. Veterans need some type of office set up that will really work for Veterans and that don’t allready work for the V.A. All these so called Veterans Orgs. get free office space and salaries from the V.A., so why would you think they are going to work in your best interest. I’m in Cat. 1 for treatment and can’t get any and as soon as this war is over the Vets who are fighting now will get the same treatment Viet Nam Vets have received for years. It’s time all Vets demand that V.A. sets up a Veterans panel in each state made up of disabled Vets from all wars that Vets would be able to notify when they have trouble with the V.A.
Posted by: Wayne Thrower | July 13, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
I am a Viet Nam era,I didn’t serve in combat as a Naval Reservist,I did have a brother in Viet Nam. I am very proud of my brother, and myself for he and I gave to this country only to return to be treated like sub-humans.It’s so unfair to have civilians heading the Dept of VA that never served 1 day in the military, and that’s because they are rich, or financially secure, and do you think they care about you and your family? The more they deny us the more they can give themselves in pay raises!!! Let’s put a military man/woman in the White House,and Congress, and especially the VA, and maybe we can get Justice!!! Please advise vets that if they stay in a hospital 21 days straight they are paid at 100%.When submitting records to VA is to get your progress report from the hospital where you were admitted to,submit to Washington.I had 6 operations at 6 different times and the doctors stated, and wrote in their briefs that I was only admitted 4 days each time!!!! I got my progress notes and it showed each day I was there, because Nurses’had to administer medicine. Get your “PROGRESS REPORT”!!!
Posted by: Jim Linebarger,Sr | July 26, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm