D.C. Madam Wants Washington Clients to Testify
The woman charged in a federal indictment with running a high-class Washington, D.C. call girl service says she plans to call her prominent clients to testify at her trial. Jeane Palfrey, dubbed the D.C. Madam, says among those she will call to testify are Randall Tobias, who resigned Friday as deputy secretary of state after confirming to ABC News that he had been a customer of Palfrey’s escort service. Tobias said he "had some gals come over to the condo for a massage" but denied any sex was involved. D.C. Madam Affair Unfolds in Pictures. Tobias is the second prominent man to be identified as a customer of the Palfrey’s "sexual fantasy service." Two weeks ago, Palfrey alleged that military strategist Harlan K. Ullman, creator of the "shock and awe" combat theory and now a senior associate with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, was also a customer. Ullman has said that the claim was "beneath the dignity of comment." Also on Palfrey’s list of customers who could be potential witnesses are a Bush administration economist, the head of a conservative think tank, a prominent CEO, several lobbyists and a handful of military officials. "I’m sure as heck not going to be going to federal prison for one day, let alone, four to eight years, because I’m shy about bringing in the deputy secretary of whatever," Palfrey told ABC News correspondent Brian Ross in an interview to be broadcast Friday on "20/20." "I’ll bring in every last one of them in if necessary," she said. Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage. Palfrey is due in federal court Monday morning to ask the judge to replace her current lawyer, a public defender, with a lawyer who she says "will be more aggressive in fighting the government." The indictment of Palfrey alleges she used more than 100 women over a period of 13 years "for the purpose of engaging in prostitution activity with male clients, including sexual intercourse and oral sex in exchange for money." She made more than $2 million running the operation, known as Pamela Martin and Associates, according to the federal indictment. Palfrey, who ran the service by phone from her home in Solano County, Calif., is the only person charged. None of her male customers is named by the government. "That’s very hypocritical," she says. "Why aren’t these people under arrest? Why just me?" Palfrey claims she ran a legal operation that offered sexual fantasy but not "illegal sex" of the kind described in the indictment. She says she hopes her prominent clients will testify they did not engage in actual sex when they hired her escorts. "This was a sexual fantasy service," Palfrey told "20/20." "Occasionally a client would want to go to the Kennedy Center or go to dinner, but generally speaking they went straight to the homes, or they went straight to the hotels," she said. Palfrey provided ABC News with phone records from her business going back four years.
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ABC News needs to post the list of Palfrey’s clients. What’s the point of saying you have the list if you won’t post it?
Posted by: D.T. | April 30, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am
But who is the real “madam” of Washington?
Posted by: Jacob | April 30, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am
If Palfrey is the only one charged and convicted, then this society still engages in unjust practices. Why should she be the only charged? It takes two or more to tangle…….If she committed a crime, she did not do it alone. Those officials who participated in this mess should be charged too. What kinda of stupid lopsided so called criminal non-justice system is this?
Posted by: Minister T. Wallace | April 30, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Post the list. They are involved just like she is, and should be named. This is just more of the double standards that run amuck. POST THEM ALL
Posted by: Mary H, Elk City Ok | April 30, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am
The fact that the D.C. Madam ran a business that was probably in violation of D.C’s rules is not the argument here. She says that “she did run this escort business”. But what she alleges is that she should not be punished because some of her clients were people in responsible positions in government and industry. The reality is these paying customers of the D.C. Madam may be married and this notoriety may cause great grief for them when there spouses find out. It’s possible that the Madam may not have have reported the escort income on her Federal Income tax and this will probably lead to severe penalties.
Posted by: Laurence Stolow | April 30, 2007, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Post the list. They are much more culpable than Palfrey because of their hypocrisy. Their adherence to a double standard should be exposed to protect people from their duplicity.
Posted by: gunnar | April 30, 2007, 10:42 am 10:42 am
It’s nonsense trying to take only Palfrey to Court. Her customers are as guilty as she is. Post their names and let’s hope justice is done!
Posted by: Rod Romano | April 30, 2007, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Post the list already.
Or are you protecting ABC News people on the list? I’ll bet that’s why you don’t post the list, because you are covering up for somebody(s) at ABC, huh? Otherwise you would post the list.
So post the list!
Posted by: Duckman GR | April 30, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Why is prostitution illegal again?
Posted by: Non-John | April 30, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am
I agree that the slimeballs should pay. But I have to admit that I feel for the families. Why humiliate the wives and children of these guys? Don’t post the list.
Posted by: Mike Sullivan | April 30, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Hey! post the list and the phone number..I am so stressed out reading about all the scandals in Washington DC..I really can use a massage…
Posted by: madmax | April 30, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Its absurd that she is prosecuted, or that anyone is prosecuted. Whoever started the prosecution should be castigated by the press and the voters.
It’ll help the cause of legalization for all the hypocrites to be exposed.
Posted by: Durst | April 30, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Post the list!!! We are ALL dying to know…!!!
Posted by: Sammy | April 30, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Palfrey for President!!! Go for it Jeane!
ABC post the darn list. Report the news now that you have it,
Posted by: Pat | April 30, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Typical politicians covering their own arses…nothing new here. Likely, they are mostly the right-wing conservative hypocrites that promote family values, when in fact, they are the ones that are usually the most guilty, unethical and morally corrupt people of all. There will never be justice when it comes to government being held accountable because it is and always has been a double standard. They make the laws yet feel they are above them. Total B.S.. Unless more of us stand up and take a stand against these injustices, nothing will ever change. It’s so curious though why it is the media itself that often protects these people the most. It’s back to the scarlet letter, let’s persecute the one woman while the men (who were cheating on their wives, and even likely using taxpayers dollars for some of these expenses) go free. So typically American…no wonder we have become the laughing stock of the world.
Posted by: Tracy | April 30, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Post the list and there pictures. Everybody is getting tired of these politions thinking they are better than anyone else.
Posted by: richard h rhea | April 30, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am
What we wnat to know is: Is John Stossel on the list?
Posted by: Miller | April 30, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am
lets see the list already…
Posted by: Carrie | April 30, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am
The DC madam wants her clients to testify..Testify about what..that they got good massages..I wonder if this is a client rating system for the services. Well I will hold up the 5 card..
Posted by: madmax | April 30, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am
ABC, are you afraid of the political & possible financial repercussions of publishing the “Client List” of the D.C. Madam? Perhaps someone in the upper levels of YOUR organization may be on the “List”???????? Check!
Posted by: Pamela "G" | April 30, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am
The government is still up to there old tricks. Have everyone who use her service to be called to court.
Posted by: guest | April 30, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am
I hope there turns out to be
dc judges and prosecutors on the list. That would be justice.
Posted by: greg | April 30, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Each and every person on the list should be posted, and called as witnesses. They are either legitimate witnesses, or should be charged themselves.
Do I feel sorry for the wives and families? Sure. But the clients should have thought of that when they patronized the service. The judicial system is there to carry out the law, not to be a social service for families with cheating husbands. Any other outcome is a failure of the courts and ABC as a legitimate government watchdog. After all, are there any ABC people on the list?
Posted by: Jim | April 30, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Funny that this come at this time?? Or not! The 2008 elections are right around the corner and now this bombshell!! Is Bill on the list??? Hillary wants to be president and Bill could ruin it for her!!!
Posted by: Daniel Brody | April 30, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Don’t post the list. Let her call “each and every one” during her trial and then cover it for “Sweeps Week”. That’s how ABC News gets the most devistation out of it.
Once again, we worry focus on sex instead of the dying in Iraq.
Posted by: troysiegfreid | April 30, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am
If Palfrey owes the government any money allow her to pay it and drop the charges againt her. A lot of innocent peolple could get hurt (i.e. wives, children, entire families destroyed). Is it really worth it? The media will have a field day with this; if it does not end NOW!!!!
Posted by: B. Woodhouse | April 30, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am
I’m happy to see the govt is going after these types of businesses. Truth be told, Palfrey would have never been so successful if it wasn’t for those seeking those services. Their names should be made public. The govt should continue to pursue the many organizations offering these types of services via the web.
Posted by: Vivian | April 30, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am
i hope it will open they eyes of our people here. She is a scape goat for someone that was trying to get out of something. and they had to use her. our country is going in the wrong direction. we use to work together not distory each other. i’m getting to hate the so called new living. there is always someone out there that will cry discrimation or racis or what ever. life is to short. we r hear today and gone tommorrow. lets make the best of what we got. and lets get along. lets be looking at the big jobs that r moving out. most every job here is a service. and not manufactor. what about the food for our pets that was purbisly taint. if they do that to our aniamals. it can get worse.
Posted by: beabet | April 30, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am
If names of clients will make everyone self satisfied and add to the fun, then let’s post every single one of the “madam’s” client list or are we, as usual, just interested in the ones we can see humbled and broken from power? Who’s being two faced now?
Posted by: SueMiller | April 30, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am
It isn’t just the idea of a madam getting caught, or “using other women” for her profit. All of them were doing it of their own free will and making money on it. It isn’t the idea that families will suffer or be torn apart, the people who used the services knew what they were doing. What bothers me most is the total lack of morals that plagues our whole society but particulary those in higher positions. It goes clear back to the Kennedy/Monroe era, Clinton/Lewinski, etc. What has happened to our government and the rest of us for sitting on our butts and putting up with it? Maybe it’s time we really paid attention who and what we are voting for.
Posted by: Bob Matkin | April 30, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Had Jeane Palfrey been a (recreational) drug dealer, wouldn’t her ‘clients’ charged with a crime and subsequently listed? What’s the difference? Why should Palfrey be the only party charged? If there wasn’t a demand for her services then she would not be in the business.
Come clean and list the names please.
Posted by: RC Jackman | April 30, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am
I think ABC should post the list. The network isn’t the one who cheated on a wife, the JOHNS did. The DC elists should be outed as any common criminal would be. To be honest, I think it’s grossly unfair to arrest the madame but not the customers. The woman shouldn’t bear full responsibility. Afterall, if a dealer is busted for selling drugs, their customers are arrested for using. Right? On that note, I don’t think the johns deserve a free pass, either. I want to know if any of the johns were guys who slammed Clinton.
Posted by: mojopo | April 30, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am
ABCNews give us the names of the national disgraces we call our leaders! The time has come to out these rats.
Posted by: Max | April 30, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am
I think the client list should be posted because she wasn’t the only one involved in this. Why are only the women prosecuted and not the men? If they have been cheating on their wives or significant others then that’s their problem and they need to be exposed. The law is very unjust when they only go after the woman. The U.S. judicial system if very hypocritical when it comes to escort services etc….
I say the government is trying to cover their on butts….I bet some of them are on her list and this is just a big cover up so they can protect themselves and their friends.
Posted by: Faye Mitchell | April 30, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Post every single name. If ABC post one name or a few names. ABC will be hypocrites if one name is mentioned and not all of them.
Posted by: Joey Lonness | April 30, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Lets continue to go after this type of discrimination against women while historically protecting the men.
Post their names, their jobs, and then send them to prison for the same amount of time if not more. This is hypocrisy if it ever existed !!! And send them off without their pension plans.
Posted by: Eric | April 30, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Please POST the list. By not posting, ABC news is an accessory to criminals, just like how ABC News and other media were used by this administration to sell doctored/bogus intelligence to the public in the runup to the IRAQ war. SHAME, Shame ABC NEWs. Where ‘s the independent media in this country ?
Posted by: Ken Lay | April 30, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am
The list will not be made public because there is way too much corruption in these politicians, whatever it takes, money, threats, or other favors, it will be done and we will all forget about this.
Posted by: Rod M | April 30, 2007, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Better do your homework with accuracy, integrity, and honesty ABC. That means even if you find a name on the list of a person you don’t want to “out,” you’d better post it if you post one name. If you put my name on that list in error, I’d have your butts in court in a heartbeat.
From what I’ve seen so far, you’re out for conservatives. Sorry everyone, I trust no one in the media anymore because they all have an agenda whether left or right … just like many who’ve posted on this site.
Solicitation for prostituion runs across all parties, ethnicities, and money lines. If you go after one of these men/women to embarrass and ruin them, better go after all of them.
Posted by: Justine | April 30, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am
If you think that is bad, go to Phoenix where the local sheriff spends more timing tracking down prostitutes than actual criminals. The customer usually is let go if they promise to testify against the girl. How fair is that?
Posted by: Lorin | April 30, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Don’t post the list. It’s hearsay.
Posted by: Chris | April 30, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Prostitution has been in existence since biblical times. It has long and touted history.
If this puritanical country treated it like many already have, it may not be so news-worthy, veneral disease would be wiped out or least controlled, and we’d have the biggest tax base of all time. Post the list or don’t. Who cares? Those people that have patronized the service, have already ruined their personal and professional lives. (I would not want to be the husband of a wonderful woman that I married because I loved her, once-upon-a-time). Just don’t be hypocritical about charging the “little person”, the “system” has identified as a viable scapegoat. The so-called movers and shakers shouldn’t get a free pass. Round them ALL up, or let them ALL go free! This is so infantile.
Posted by: Steve | April 30, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am
These government-linked “officials” haven’t been charged with anything, they are being called as witnesses so there should be no need to publish names. Those that want the names published are only left-wing activist rumor-mongers or bloggers who want to “stir up the pot” by slandering the reputation of those that may have participated in legal activities. Those activists will get enough mileage out of this story once the trial begins, so there’s no need to fuel their fire ahead of time. Whatever happened to responsible journalism? Whatever happened to “the juicy details” are nobody’s business but their own. Seems that’s what the activists were saying when Slick Willy was “redesigning clothes” for Miss Lewinski. Let the trial reporting worry about the “who” and “what”, and the jury worry about who should be held accountable.
Posted by: Randy | April 30, 2007, 11:38 am 11:38 am
POST the NAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY are the women in trouble but not the men?
Is this fair?
Posted by: post the names now! | April 30, 2007, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Tell me O’reilly is on the list… please!
Posted by: Randall Lee Parten | April 30, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am
We are human beings…
Moral majority…? Any time that a
person or group claims to be above
another due to morals, religion or
even government. You can bet that
they aren’t. We are witness to that
every day.
David, Port Angeles, WA.
Posted by: David | April 30, 2007, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Put the list out there. I am a Republican and am not surprised that Ms. Martin’s clientele are family values candidates.
Hah!
Posted by: Carla | April 30, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am
This should provide some entertainment
for awhile.
Posted by: ra | April 30, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Please post the list.
Americans have a right to know. This woman cannot be the scape goat for an entire city. I want these jerks off their moral high horses.
Posted by: Ally Marie | April 30, 2007, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Post the list. You owe it to us all after your own complicity in furthering the Iraq and 9-11 lies that prevail.
Post the list.
Post the list. Restore your honor.
Posted by: marcello inundito | April 30, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Do I feel sorry for the wives and families? Sure. But the clients chose prostitutes over their families, so who am I to pass judgement?
Fill the popcorn bowl and get a good seat, folks. The show is about to begin.
Posted by: Dale | April 30, 2007, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Of course, ABC News is gonna milk this for all its worth. Would anyone expect otherwise?
This is juicy stuff. I wonder if there are any high profile holy rollers on the list.
Signed
John Doe
P.S. Dave W., thanks for the kind words.
Posted by: Hober_Mallow | April 30, 2007, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Now, Voyeur?
Could be.
So cut the tease, ABC.
Let’s see the list.
Posted by: Harry Lime 3 | April 30, 2007, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
What’s new? Nothing! Just the Republican Party giving hypocrisy a bad name.
Posted by: Tom Paine | April 30, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
I heard there are many journalists and whitewash house press corps that used this service and their fantasy act was practicing something called media embedded where the sun don’t shine…TED…SAM…? please no
Posted by: frodaddy | April 30, 2007, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
I have no problem with posting the names. Just make sure all the liberal Democrats are included.
Posted by: ron | April 30, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Want to bet that only Republican and Conservatives will get named. Democratic or left leaning Liberal customers will be protected by the press.
Posted by: Rich | April 30, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Can anyone prove that the law was broken? If yes, then the names of all should be published, but if no, the ABC needs to drop the story. This is just another attempt by the media to destroy the current administration, which has done enough on it’s own, and get someone with thier own poilitical views in office.
Posted by: mike | April 30, 2007, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Want to bet that only Republican and Conservatives will get named. Democratic or left leaning Liberal customers will be protected by the press.
Posted by: Rich | Apr 30, 2007 12:33:00 PM
Like sexual faatasists, Republicans are also mostly paranoiacs.
The poor dears have never seen a conspiracy they wouldn’t pay $300 a hour for.
Posted by: Harry Lime 3 | April 30, 2007, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
USAID should be taken away from the Department of State whose officials either are perverts or “suck ups”. It was a great agency once and really did the “hearts and minds” work MOST American people wanted to see in our overseas programs. Between US Department of State running everything with a big club held behind thier back and a lying smile on their face in the name of “foreign policy” and the Military trying to do “development” work with a gun in hand, the American people are not being served. It’s a crime what Bush has done to the face of the American people overseas. In my humble opinion.
Posted by: Cara Roja | April 30, 2007, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Post the names – or are your advertisers/sponsors on the list?
Posted by: Dee | April 30, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
sex was what… made all the newspapers just cry for more and media too.. about bill clinton… this woman has 15,000 names and some are top people in Washington and no one.. is investigating.. but ABC news? come on now.. if all channels. .and all newspapers could do it in the 90′s.. surely you can do it now?
maybe it has something to do with money by having war? republicans love war. republicans love sex.. but if the money is stopped due to removal of men who love war? .. oh my goodness that will not do. no matter what these men do.. they can get away with it all… if they keep handing out the big bucks.. to the republicans and those who want their empire and their greed. we are all rooting for the madamn… you go girl.. you go…
Posted by: frances lee bright | April 30, 2007, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I hink that everyone that is on the lis should have to tell all he or she knows about what went on. I think that the madman shooul go free. All she did was what the people in washington wanted. She is just a small business woman trying to make a living. That is wha Bush tell’s everyone that he is doing. He keep’s tell people that he want’s to set up more small business’s so what is wrong with what she did
Posted by: don249264 | April 30, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
They’re going to sit on the list until sweeps week. Patience!
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Glad that you have given the maximum publicity to Ms. Palfrey. She is such a worthy example of business acumen and social responsibility. And so righteously indignant about facing jail for trading in flesh over the course of more than a decade. Why don’t you shill for her book and movie rights? Ah, the sweet smell of journalism!
Posted by: jdnoonan | April 30, 2007, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Most writers on this page seems to assume that only Republicans are customers. The article seems to imply that. Hypocrisy crosses party lines. I have no problem with the press outing corrupt Republicans, but it is in the public’s interest to out all corrupt politicians. Those of you who want Republican blood only are blinded by partisanship.
Posted by: Ricky Sims | April 30, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Who said USAID were not on top of things?
Of course the projects in Iraq are crumbling.
He was very busy.
Posted by: Joe Wilson | April 30, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
We are human beings…
Moral majority…? Any time that a
person or group claims to be above
another due to morals, religion or
politics. You can bet that
they aren’t. We are witness to that
every day.
This admin. has it down to a art.
And Karl Rove is the artist.
David, Port Angeles, WA.
Posted by: David | April 30, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Please let the head of the conservative think tank be Grover Norquist. And then there’s Newt – maybe he’s moving on to wife #4. LOL.
Posted by: jim b. | April 30, 2007, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Here’s hoping somebody steals the list from ABC and posts it on the internet. We all need a good laugh at the expense of the Best Congress and Administration money can buy !
Posted by: Geo | April 30, 2007, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Don’t post the list. None of these names should be made public until the case is closed.
Have we learned nothing from the Duke Lacrosse case?
Posted by: Brad | April 30, 2007, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
The clients that called initated the events of the evening…….they are just as guilty as she is……..
Posted by: rb | April 30, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I am laughing at the comments from the “left” on this site. Do they really think only conservatives are on the list. They may be the only ones revealed because it is ABC. When one can’t make any logical argument it is easier to spit venom. It is laughable.
Washingtom is full of hypoctrites. It is bipartisan.
Posted by: Kathy | April 30, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
She should have given the list to multiple news groups!
Posted by: John | April 30, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
I think that ABC news and the other media outlets that publish these names are no better than the National Enquirer. There is no legitimate news value to disclosing these names other than the purient interest most of us have for this type of story. The harm that will be done to so many families will be far greater than any legitimate news value. It is completely irresponsible and done primarily for ratings.
Posted by: Phil Moinester | April 30, 2007, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
If even 1 name is released, Then, all names should be released. It doesn’t matter If the people are WELL KNOWN ,or not. They are teachers?husbands? who knows! I’m sure it’s quite a mix of types of people and the public should know all! EVERYONE should Be able to read for themselves now…
Posted by: may I | April 30, 2007, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Phil, Kathy, we do focus too much on
those things that feed our dark side.
And I agree that they have turned this
into a soap opera.
But….. this administration did run on
a supposed moral superiority campaign.
And of course they really played the
fear card. I don’t think, and many dems.
I know don’t feel that we have any moral
advantage over republicans.
In fact I don’t recall any democrats
ever trying to claim so.
Unlike those in this corrupt admin.
So suck it up, take your lumps, like
we did and Clinton did.
Posted by: David | April 30, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
would rather not have to wait until Friday for the release of names, and pictures…?are you really waiting for sweeeps, or will you get the truth out asap…?today
Posted by: Ellen | April 30, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Post the list or stop talking about the story! Why does the press get to pick and choose whose names are released? do your damn jobs and just release the list before someone else scoops you.
In my local paper, they publish the names of shmucks that get caught soliciting hookers; why shouldn’t the rich and powerful be humilated just like Joe American?
Posted by: Ehren | April 30, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
ABC has no right to release this “list” that will embarrass men who have no chance to refute the implications. Does ABC need the ratings so bad that this release of names will happen? What is next – men who bet on football/horses/baseball? Get real ABC.
Posted by: jim beall | April 30, 2007, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Right. Don’t pick and choose . I want to see the entire list. It’s only fair because they did release ONE name!
Posted by: May I | April 30, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Of course, ABC being the Far Left group that they are, will only release the names of Republicans.
And Rosie O’Donnell will smirk with glee, as she considers herself the great moralist.
Posted by: JEAN-O | April 30, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
People in this country are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, accusations in the media so heavily bias outcomes that the system has become worthless. Just look at the guys on the Duke lacross team. The media should never identify the accused until AFTER a trial. Anyone can write a list and put whoever the hell they want on there. Suppose she hates Bush even half as much as I do. What stops her from adding him to the list even if he’s never used the service?
Shame on ABC for sinking this low. What would Peter Jennings do?
Posted by: James | April 30, 2007, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Cherry picking to advance an agenda? As best I can tell, so far no liberals, no Democrats. Realease all or none.
Posted by: rk | April 30, 2007, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
“I’m sure as heck not going to be going to federal prison for one day, let alone, four to eight years, because I’m shy about bringing in the deputy secretary of whatever,” Palfrey told ABC News correspondent Brian Ross in an interview to be broadcast Friday on “20/20.” “I’ll bring in every last one of them in if necessary,” she said.
FINALLY! A woman that is willing to stand up for herself in front of all the Republican & Conservative folks and not allow herself to be soley persecuted for supplying the two-timing, wife-cheating fat cats a service, a woman who tells it like it SHOULD be told! YOU GO, GIRL!!
Posted by: Veeta | April 30, 2007, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
She is living in Fantasy Land if she thinks that clients pd 300.00+ just for a massage. She knows the truth! Cients expcet discretion and should have it.
This service was very FULL sevice and catered to all of DC and most of the hotels.
Posted by: Escort | April 30, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
If she has done something illegal then for every charge against her their should be 2 others charged, the aleged prostitute and the aleged john. Those folks should be charged and their names should be posted…not everyname in her phone book, just those charged.
Posted by: T | April 30, 2007, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
I think Brian Ross and ABC News are teasing us. They tell us they have info on top government officials who are visiting an “escort” service but not revealing it. Obviously, some of these officials may be subject to blackmail. (Indeed, Ms. Palfrey seems to be using the threat of exposure as part of a plan to get her charges dismissed or reduced.
Ross and ABC should not be cooperating with these efforts.
Posted by: RBrudzynski | April 30, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I have always thought what a man and woman do in privacy is their business and no one elses. I do believe that if she is to be charged all the johns should be also. If it wasnt for the johns there wouldnt be the pros..
Posted by: alice | April 30, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
There is something quite delicious about watching hypocrites having to eat their words. There is a joke that says Republicans don’t like sex. But I think they like sex, just not with their wives, or sometimes the opposite sex. Never trust any politics that seeks to stand on the necks of law abiding citizens, on moral grounds; they will have far more secrets.
PRINT THE DAMN LIST IN CAPS.
Posted by: Critic | April 30, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
I wonder if any of these clients tryed to deduct the services on their income tax forms. Wouldn’t put it past them. Professional services you know!
Posted by: Pat | April 30, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Post the damn list already. What is wrong with these people? They are constantly preaching morals to us but they are the green snakes hiding in the green grass. Throw rocks at them!
Posted by: Gbatima | April 30, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Post the names – but not just the clients. Post the “employees” also. Everyone invloved at all levels should be made public. If they did something illegal then charge them all. Those who are convicted of crimes should then be terminated if they haven’t resigned. Just remember: Innocent until proven guilty!
Posted by: Dave | April 30, 2007, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
After 6 years of the Bushies telling Dems “they should stop making fun of religion” and other ridiculous statements and taunts – what goes around comes around.
Too bad about the wives and children but the guys who were involved with the women should have thought about them before they were up to no good.
They judged the Dems all of the time about their patriotism, their weakness, their not supporting the troops, their pro-terrorism, etc., etc., etc. Constantly bringing up Clinton and his past. Constantly telling people how moral and upright they were and how they were going to make America a decent nation again.
What a riot! Snakes in the grass
Posted by: Janet | April 30, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Like most of the previous posters, I say publish the list…unless you’re trying to protect some ABC bigwigs. What is ABC waiting for? No one is going to come forward of their own accord. This Administration has had pretty much a scandal a day for months. This one ought to last at least until next week when another revelation will come out. I want these hypocrites get their comeuppance….like yesterday.
Posted by: Liblady | April 30, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
so the list should be posted, unless it will affect national security, but we already know that corruption breathes with politicians, who should be surprised? and besides, if they chose an escort service they shouldnt be forced to resign, yea they wanted to,
Posted by: bob | April 30, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
“The reality is these paying customers of the D.C. Madam may be married and this notoriety may cause great grief for them when there spouses find out.”
Too bad. They should have kept their pants zipped.
Posted by: ann | April 30, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Why is it illegal to pay for sex?
Posted by: Joe | April 30, 2007, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
She’s appearing on TV on 20/20 on Friday. ABC doesn’t want to “scoop” their own show by revealing names too soon. That would be “premature enumeration”, an undesirable unfoldment of the story!
Don’t y’all get it? ABC is dangling tantalizing carrots (the list), in order
to stir interest (both prurient and political) in order to maximaize audience size for their 20/20 show.
It’s a rational business decision.
Posted by: Bobb999 | April 30, 2007, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Post the list, ABC!! The American people employ those working in government, and we have a god damn right to know the names of every last one of them who engaged in this kind of activity. WHERE IS THE MEDIA WHEN WE NEED IT???
Posted by: Ben Sullivan | April 30, 2007, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Read the article people…it doesn’t state that ABC has a list of names, only that Palfrey claimed some of these people were on the list. The only thing ABC says it was provided with is a statement from her and phone records. They can’t publish a list of hundreds or thousands of phone numbers…
Posted by: uhhhhh | April 30, 2007, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Here’s why the list NEEDS to be posted:
How many of those “college educated” girls used their connections with “clients” to get jobs in sensitive government positions?
This reminds me of the Heidi Fleiss scandal, where the media focused on which producers and actors were customers, when in reality, the biggest story was how many of the escorts had become A-List actresses.
So how many of the DC Madam girls are now employed by Uncle Sam – and possibly feeding sensitive information to our enemies?
That’s the REAL story. And that’s why ABC(IA) won’t publish the list.
Posted by: Shorebreak | April 30, 2007, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Let me coin a verb — capone, as in Al Capone somehow escaping legal consequences for murder, but prosecutors got him for tax evasion since that’s what they could get evidence and live witnesses for. Tobias, the deputy secretary who resigned, ought to have gone, but the real scandal was the cronyism that put someone like him where he was. A big pharmaceutical corporation CEO was put in charge of foreign aid programs focusing on AIDS. Any guess whose interests came first? That’s worse than hiring a “masseuse”, but if that’s what gets him out, then let’s capone him, and maybe the rest of the customer list too.
Posted by: Eric | April 30, 2007, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Why does ABC not explain why it’s withholding the names? This is obviously a newsworthy part of the story.
Posted by: obsessed | April 30, 2007, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
It’s unfortunate that families will suffer because these men made certain choices. But these men must be accountable. It’s what we teach our children: If you make a choice there will be consequences. There is nothing we need to enforce more than this in today’s world: Accountability.
Posted by: J Roberts | April 30, 2007, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I think that someone in the DOJ will file for an injunction against ABC not to release the list until after the case. It is par for the course that “the powers that be” (Democrats and Republicans).
Meanwhile, ABC will continue to keep the news world crackling with tabloid sensationalism while not focusing on real journalism.
Juicy, salacious… the real ABC news network.
Posted by: Todd | April 30, 2007, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Is it wrong to call her a madam before she has been proven guilty?
Posted by: Amanda F | April 30, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Please post the entire list.
The public needs to know the truth and we’re sick and tired of politicians who say “Do as I say, not as i do.”
Posted by: rcolescott | April 30, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Post the names, for crying out loud!!
Posted by: B Sroka | April 30, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
How about a list of high-ranking administration officials that have financial interests in the Iraq war? For example, Dick Cheney and his interest in Halliburton/KBR? I guess viewers would be bored by that–they just want a sex scandal.
Posted by: randy grenier | April 30, 2007, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Just another example of “do as we say not do as we do” They should all be tried just like her it is just as much a crime on there part as it is her’s. This will all be coverd up and never spoke of again
Posted by: Forret | April 30, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Yes the list is just another item for the public to look and laugh about. Sure families and companies will be hurt by this but enough is enough. Do the men or women who called looking for a good time think they are above the law, I think not! I get pulled over for DUI and I get slammed for every law broken, what makes these low lifes any diffrent. You as media people should hold no ground and step it up a notch, show the public what you are made of.
Posted by: Charles | April 30, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Supposedly, there are a couple of women on the list too.
Anyone want to speculate?
Posted by: Janet | April 30, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
I don’t know whether the entire list should be exposed. It sounds like you’d need something the size of the D.C. white pages, and it would probaby get boring midway through the letter B.
Outing some of the “Family Values” hypocrites, though, might be a useful object lesson. I mean, hearing that some Hollywood star used Palfrey’s service would hardly be a shocker, because the behavior is more or less expected (which does not mean to excuse it). But outing those who pretend to be paragons of virtue, while abusing that trust, seems another matter altogether. I mean, who wants a hypocrite as a role model? Is it really better to keep their hypocracy a secret, so they can keep on preaching one thing while practicing its opposite? What do we, as a society, gain by that?
Posted by: Michael | April 30, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
It is excellent that 20 20 is doing this investigative reporting.
What is going on with many of the US top chiefs involved in development who seem to have deep ethical problems and whose problems seem to undermine US foreign policy.
Would you consider doing an investigation not just of Randall Tobias, but also of Peter Smith, US Deputy Chief at UNESCO also caught in a corruption scandal involving his mistress. Same with Wolfowitz at the World Bank and his girlfriend. What’s the matter with these guys? and do they understand that their blunders are helping the enemies of the US in developing a narrative that this is a corrupt country where leaders have not morals?
Posted by: Brian Artwood | April 30, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
If we are going to name the clients should we not also name the girls who worked for Palfrey. As so many have said it takes 2 to tango.
Posted by: Rod | April 30, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
We do not need to see the list. There are more important issues in the world than this… bring our guys home.
Posted by: Susan | April 30, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Post the list!
Posted by: Kay | April 30, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Post ALL names or NO names. So far all I hear is Rep. or conservatives. How ’bout the left. FAIR reporting or NO reporting should be done. Time for ABC to be ‘fair’ & ‘balanced’ NOT BIASED
Posted by: Linda Barnett | April 30, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
let the prosecutor (or republican) who is without sin cast the first stone.
Posted by: pop | April 30, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
$2 Million in income and Jeane Palfrey needs to use a Public Defender? She doesn’t need an attorney, she needs a financial advisor.
Posted by: John Moss | April 30, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
It is my opinion that is this was a legal business that offered services legally then the gov’t should step aside. Let it be investigated but don’t just throw the madam under the bus just because the business is for adults. And let’s all not pretend we are saints either.
Posted by: Gabriel Angelino | April 30, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
For cryin’ out loud, post the list. Apparently it is illegal to purchase sex but perfectly legal for women to give it away for free. Prostitution should be a regulated industry with healthcare and benefits. If need be, I’d prefer my husband to have been with a woman who was a monitored employee, not a ‘lover’. Leave the moral judgements at the door on this one. Let’s be practical.
Posted by: Pamela | April 30, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Well,if there are lefties on the list, no one should be surprised, eh? I mean all we’ve heard for years now is how immoral they are.
The real meat of the matter is how many of the smugly superior, holier-than-thou righties are on the list.
Posted by: Maureen | April 30, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
As I remember, the Bush platform was he & Dick were on a higher ethical plane than the previous administration. He accused the previous of corruption and of disregarding the moral standard the country needed to be based on.
The United States people deserve truth regardless of which political group is involved and to see the moral level that Washington power seems to be standing on.
To slowly release names can only be seen as a commercial exploitation by the network.
To quickly release the names shows true allegiance by the network to the people of this country.
Please release all the names, spare no one.
Posted by: Rick | April 30, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
the thing that is REALLY bothering me isn’t the list, or who is on it, or if they did this or that, I don’t care if someone paid for sex, I don’t want to pay for sex, but it sure would be nice to be able to afford to…
Posted by: regular john | April 30, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
If the list is going to be posted, let’s get the hole list ABC. All the DEMS and all GOP’s that hold or did hold an active office with the Government. Don’t hold back, print it now and print it all.
Jim – Simi Valley – Ca.
Posted by: Jim - Simi Valley - Ca. | April 30, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
this whole thing is crazy. It is no secret that men, even powerful ones, have a physiological lust for female companionship. Whoever these men are, they opted not to pick up a cocktail waitress or prostitute on the side of the road. They chose the safest, most confidential manner they could. I don’t agree with the idea of a an escort service that provides sexual services..but geez..this country is light years behind Europe in just accepting the fact that men like women.
What is the real issue here?
Important people who claim to be ethical , should be taught a lesson, but Joe Schmoe, at some lobbying firm? Why does the public need to know this information.
Posted by: jason | April 30, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
The names of reporters and other media personalities on the list should also be published, and they should be expected to resign as well.
Posted by: dave | April 30, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I can see another “Holyer than thou” faaaaar right wing, “Bible thumping”, “Conservative” radio show host “sumit” at the White House coming real soon!
In 2004 Rove and the criminals duped the Bible belt voters and have since kicked them to the curb, and now he and his puppets Dick and Dubya are going to try to turn this into a Liberal/Democrat issue. Lol!
Posted by: ZMack | April 30, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Throw the book at all of them. You can’t blackmail the government and law enforcement. Let her defense be based on law and don’t be intimidated. President Clinton wasn’t embarassed about the Monica Lewinsky incidents when he was US President, so let the court roll on and let the lines fall where there may but no one is above the law, not even prostitutes and brothel owners.
Posted by: Jean Pierre | April 30, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Post the list!
Posted by: bobh | April 30, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
When do we get to see the slimy politicans names? I am sure you won’t find Bill “Can’t keep my pants up” Clinton.
Posted by: John Doe | April 30, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
getting caught is an assumed risk-always has been and always wiil be-let the chips fall-or should I say let the Johns fall where they may.
Posted by: BA | April 30, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
I don’t get it!!!
What’s the big deal about posting the list? If Miss America can be used by law enforcement to catch sexual predators and perverts, then why can’t this list be used to catch perverted politicians? I’m sure that many out there have seen Dateline’s Chris Hansen (I hope he’s not on the list)to Catch a Predator—right? Well, if those drunk truckers and some school teachers here and there can be embarrassed and risk losing so much because of their sick behavior, then why not those perverted politicians and Washington big boys? This is not a partisian issue; this is simply a matter of a madam being unfairly jerked around by this imbalanced, unfair, and unjust legal system…….
Posted by: Tony | April 30, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Maybe all of this will finally get the real problem out into the media spotlight and people can start getting help for their problem.
Sexual Addiction.
It’s a problem that is destroying the lives of the addicts, their families, and the prostitutes.
Sexual addiction is more rampant than alcoholism and drug abuse but gets little coverage. Look it up and learn.
The “madam” is a pusher and her clients (and employees) the addicts.
Expose the depth of the problem and publish the phone numbers.
Posted by: KM | April 30, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Post the list!!
It’s time that these so-called “moral” politicians start paying for their crimes. They need to be taken out of their “DC bubble” and be brought back to the real world. I’m sick of being told how I should act when these people who represent us and our country are some of the most dispicable people who are out for their own greed. The louder one speaks out against something it usually means that they are guilty of doing that very thing.
For Ullman to say that the accusation is “beneath the dignity of comment” is a joke! These people need to be embarrassed so they learn their lesson.
Posted by: Scott | April 30, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Did Bill Clinton resign when he was caught in impropriety and then lied about it? I’m suspicious about the timing of all this and who’s behind it.
Posted by: Cheryl | April 30, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Let’s see, Jason. If I were Joe Schmoe’s wife and his name was on the list, I’d want to know. He screws around while I’m working and caring for his kids. I’m being faithful and he’s blowing family money on a honey. Hmmmmm. Yeah, I’d have an issue with that. Only now, he’s embarrassed the crap out of my kis. Nice dad.
ABC will post a political hit list. You don’t have to worry about Joe being on it unless he’s emailed in to complain about their coverage of a particular issue.
Posted by: Janet1 | April 30, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Since Ronald Reagan, the Republican Party has wrapped itself in the mantle of “moral values,” claiming that it is the party of Christianity, moral purity, and virtue; and that Democrats are the party of Sodom. Now, I have always believed that morality is not about what you insert in what orifices, but about things like telling the truth, not starting wars and committing mass murder based on a campaign of lies, not torturing people, taking care of poor and vulnerable people, saving the lives of poor children, you know, stuff that Republicans are against.
But anyway, it is indeed relevant that they are hypocrites. They want our votes because they claim to be all about virtue and “family values.” If they are lying frauds, the people deserve to know it.
Posted by: cervantes | April 30, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
The John’s themselves are soley responsible for any perceived humiliation of wives and family of Johns. In trying to protect their feelings (perceived humiliation), you are enabling the endangering of their lives. These wives should be told and have the opportunity to be tested for STDs. Further, this list should be made public not just to hold the Johns as legally responisble for their actions, but also to allow the wives and families to use it in divorce proceedings. Would we be so concerned about the legal partners feelings if this were a HOMOSEXUAL service?
My father had an affair for more than 4 years and everyone knew it except for my mother, my siblings, and me. I was and am less angered by his sexual infidelity than by the facts that 1) my mother had no legal recourse and 2) she could have died of aids.
Posted by: mb | April 30, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Americans titillated once again over sex. Sex is the one thing that just about anyone can do, yet you act as if it is some criminal act to get with someone other than your wife. A crime?! Regulating the family through criminal laws. And it’s okay for Republicans and Democrats, department heads and department janitors to get some.
Posted by: Michael | April 30, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I don’t care about who’s on the list. At the core of this is a woman who has been in a legitimate business for 13 years. Now all of a sudden the federal government has seized all her assets and charged her with pimping prostitution. She wants all of the 1500 people who have used her services to testify in court that no sex occured. If they do that under oath the court had to find her NOT GUILTY as no law was broken. If they say that sex occured it is her defense that the women escorts and the customers that broke the law as she explisitly had it in the escort contract that sex is illegal and would result in breach of contract. Yeah we all know that she probably circumvented the law with the contract, but it is within the law. I would have less simpathy for her if the government had closed her business some 12 years or more ago, but come on she’s been doing this for 13 years with the biggest players in DC.
Posted by: skidog | April 30, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Indeed, it IS “a criminal act to get with someone other than your” spouse. A marriage is a contractual agreement. [Bigamy is illegal.] If you want to “get with” someone else, get a divorce. Sexual infidelity itself is illegal. And let us not forget that it is often complicated by STDs, among which is AIDS. I would call this MURDER. A marriage is a contract and we hold be responsible for their weapons.
I believe it is the Republican party (so called “conservatives”) who has aligned itself with those who would legislate our bedrooms. They have further to fall than those liberal legislators who would keep government out of our bedrooms.
Regardless, we SHOULD pursue the Johns AS WELL AS the proprietors, managers, and employees–if, indeed, any criminal activity took place.
Not publicizing the Johns on the grounds of protecting the families is preposterous (see earlier post).
Posted by: mb | April 30, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Everyone just can’t wait to see the list. First of all we don’t even know how credible this woman even is. He we go again in this country as usual. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty of anything. We don’t know if all the people on her list were really involved or did anything illegal or anything else at this point. But he we go again with our national enquirer lust again. didn’t the Duke rape case teach anyone anything. It sure seems not.
Posted by: Richard Rhodes | April 30, 2007, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Hey, it’s only sex. It’s their private life and has absolutely no effect on how they perform they jobs. Isn’t that what we heard in the 1990′s? Let’s see if it applies now.
Posted by: Marilyn Austin | April 30, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Do you’re journalistic duty and post the list. Don’t shield our tax payer funded officials.
Posted by: gly | April 30, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Watch, Washington is going to make prostitution legal before Friday!
Posted by: BJ | April 30, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
To begin with there is a double standard. The DC Madam is in trouble for selling sex or maybe not selling sex, who knows but the people buying it can walk away unscathed. Personally, I’ve never directly paid for sex but I belive that in some indirect way we all have. You may have met someone in the club and spent money on a few drinks hoping to get lucky and maybe you did. You indirectly paid for it. As I see it adult film stars get paid big money every day to the tune of multi-billions of dollars a year to have sex so why not have the same standard for the DC Madam. If she and her girls want to sell it directly like adult film stars do so be it. Legalize it, regulate it, TAX it and leave her alone. If not then plaster the names of her clients out there and hold them equally liable.
Posted by: Tim Buckley | April 30, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Why call a call girl service for a massage.(ha ha) Seems as though you would call for a professional masseuse.
Posted by: pal | April 30, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Why not move her operation to NV?
Posted by: John J LaMar | April 30, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
What do we call it now? FannyGate?
Posted by: Leroy | April 30, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Post the names please.
Posted by: luiz | April 30, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
ABC probably won’t post the list, but for those of you who want to do some sleuthing on your own, Ms. Palfrey posted an August 1996 excerpt from her client phone list.
Just Google:
August 1996+pdf+palfrey
Posted by: dimbulb | April 30, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I was shocked by such a scandal in the capital city and under the watch of law-makers. Well, poor Palfrey! She should have gotten a DOD contract and gone to Iraq to do her business. In that way, she can make much bigger money but can be protected under the name of “fighting the terrorism.” While I have been sarcastic about this scandal, I am proud to be in this country that justice would be always prevail, soon or late.
Posted by: Dee Dee May | April 30, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Im curious as to why this is still called a crime. Isn’t this an yet another example of “legislating morality”.
Instead of paying their “dates” (which does sort of get the old tax man involved, our politicos could just buy them expensive gifts in exchange for bestowing the pleasures of their company.
Or should the recipients of these “romantic gifts” or “romantic entertainments” be held accountable for the federal taxes due?
Posted by: Bruce Frykman | April 30, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
There are police stings where people seeking sexual services are arrested and their information published.
If DC Madam is being indicted for selling sex, then wouldn’t these people who sought out the services need to be arrested and then their information be released as well?
Posted by: Dick | April 30, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
If I may clarify my previous post, the MONEY is flowing to the “Madam” who is accused of violating a law that has been established way before prostitution – Thou shalt not commit adultery. The MONEY flow is the reason she is being charged. The fact that the others involved were paying her and also commiting fornication or adultery is also a crime. They should also be charged. The fact that some of them are public officials means (to coin a phrase) “America, we have a problem”.
Posted by: ORNREY | April 30, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Did anyone see Memoirs Of Geisha.
Posted by: Ann | April 30, 2007, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
I think this is awesome. Good for her, release those names.
Posted by: anonymous | April 30, 2007, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Do your jobs – post the list
Posted by: demand real journalism | April 30, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
D.C. Madam is calling her clients to testify that they DID NOT have sex with her girls. She wants her prominent witnesses to clear her of guilt. And if her witnesses swear under oath that they didn’t have sex, then nothing here is illegal. Selling fantasy isn’t illegal.
Don’t release the names. If her witnesses tell the truth, then they did nothing illegal and do not deserve to have their names slandered across the media. Let each individual deal with their issues privately. I’m pretty sure the spouses have figured out by now that Pamela Martin and Associates is not their husband’s stock broker. So let the families deal with this issue themselves. Don’t involve the wives and children in public disgrace.
Posted by: lalala | April 30, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
any third year lawyer could defend this easy…unless tape or other hard evidence is available, she just made up the phone numbers…
Posted by: Donald Dillfry | April 30, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Let’s be real and stop hiding behind the “moral” issue of sex. This isn’t about sex. It’s about money! The government didn’t get their cut through taxes so now they want her to pay, yet all of their DC pals get a free ride. Screw that!! Post the list and make these people pay for their actions.
This isn’t a party issue, it’s a government issue. The American people get lied to day in and day out by our government about everything. Their political campaigns are all lies. When’s the last time a politician has really done what they said that they would do in their campaign? Let these liers finally pay! Karma’s a bitch!
Posted by: scott | April 30, 2007, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
The poster ‘lalala’ is very wrong.
This situation needs to be pumped for maximum possible embarassment and LOL’s.
At this rate, I’m hoping for a prime-time special before week’s end revealing the names on the list, complete with special celebrity guests from scandals past – Barney Frank, Bob Packwood etc.
A real-time simulcast from Times Square featuring these names scrolling on a marquee, along with their released phone numbers, would be nice, also.
Posted by: Danny H. | April 30, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I wonder if the NSA looked into her phone records….
Posted by: KS | April 30, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
I think it is ridiculous for it to be illegal. What are these business guys supposed to do when they are traveling or locally when they are supposed to be at work? That is what they do. It won’t ever change. And the lawyers for the clients are probably clients themselves, were it not for lawyers biz would slow down noticably.
Posted by: Anonygirl | April 30, 2007, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Post the list already. Good grief!
Posted by: Shyanne H | April 30, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Seems to me that, given a week before the 20/20 expose, an intrepid reporting organization and even one with more pounds of phone logs than brains, would have staffers calling numbers around the clock, you know to verify pizza orders, mention prospective employment opportunities, or whatever. And anyone on that list who cancels their phone service might worry about the DC police getting numerous complaints of obscene calls made from their numbers. Yup, its gonna be one long week for some folks….
Posted by: jake waters | April 30, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
This is ridiculous. It’s an escort service. You pay for the company, not the sex. It is left to the discretion of the girl whether to have relations with the customer. If they choose to do so, then it is a personal relationship, seperate from the business. Shame on the men who have families, but you can’t blame the woman who simply provided some company for the lonely and miserable.
Posted by: Me | April 30, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Oh look, a witch hunt! Those without sin start pointing fingers….
Why, oh why does everyone relish in someone’s else’s misery or errors or bad choices?
Get over it already.
Posted by: ctylstquest | April 30, 2007, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
damn … the republicans responding to this issue are just so funny … when it was bill and monica they preached the “rule of law” now they would ignore the law.
yes, the list should be published and be sure to include the names of the escorts. As i understand it, some government related women were employed as escorts as well.
finally, if you cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen as the old saying goes!
Posted by: i love the whining | April 30, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
This sounds like the story of the Mayflower Madam in 1989. Her book now sells for as little a $.01, used. I first saw her book reviewed in the Wall Street Journal. Many prominent New Yorkers used her service. Many Hollywood stars used the services of Heidi Fleiss – so what’s new? Not much!
Posted by: Jack | April 30, 2007, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
I’m wondering why in 99.9% of the US prostitution is still illegal.
With it being legal in some parts of Nevada and the country of Amsterdam. I ask has the world come to an end?
Posted by: jh | April 30, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
So why is ABC only telling us about Bush officials, military officers and a member of a conservative think tank? Where is the whole list? Why not everyone. What is ABC’s agenda here?
Posted by: James | April 30, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
So heres the thing. It is about data mining. Right now some outstanding typists there in ABCs most inner sanctum are typing every number into a spread sheet. 46 lbs is gonna make for a pretty long sheet. And lots of numbers are gonna come back, again and again and again. You know, the folks who ordered the most pizzas. It is not too much of a chore to sort that list by number and figure which numbers made the most calls. A great place to start looking into numbers- the frequent flyers, not the onesies. Perhaps it will out some procurers, folks who pimped for others. Do you think they might just want to cut a deal to keep their names from getting out? They might find some religion themselves when the action news truck shows up at their office….
Posted by: jake waters | April 30, 2007, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
And cross referencing lists of numbers will probably pull up some plums too. Something as simple as a Cole Directory, a small investment but in stant return for any listed number. Lots of compamies sell lists on numbers and adresses, even lists of conservative values voters names and numbers. And convince the right folks that you are a republican write in candidate in a safe democratic district and mebbe you’ve bought yerself the mother of all lists – conservative values donors. Course their names are allready on the federal election’s committee’s (as well as many state electrion committees) web sites. A great list to cross reference. Hey, they come to DC, they can’t all stay lincoln’s bedroom, whaddayagonnado?
Posted by: jake waters | April 30, 2007, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Hmm… lots of learing moralizers clearly eager to see many people ruined (innocent or not) for their own cheap fun.
At least the johns were honest about what turned them on.
Posted by: james | April 30, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
ABC will selectively leak names of its political adversaries. That is how the press works. They are not journalists they are simply political operatives with an agenda.
Let all the names be revealed and let the chips fall where they may. Those who trust ABC to do this are fools at a minimum.
Posted by: Jeff | April 30, 2007, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Selective disclosure of a name here and a name there isn’t being fair. The American people deserve a full release of all former client names. Lets get all the names released as soon as possible.
Posted by: David | April 30, 2007, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Let the hypocrisy be revealed. Post the list.
Posted by: John | April 30, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
I am guessing the problem is that it has been proven that she ran an illegal business. Names on the list might be just a wrong number. I imagine it would be difficult to prove that a telephone number on the list is an actual customer, or perhaps someone who inadvertently dialed her number. I am curious to see who is on the list, after it has been proven that they are indeed a customer.
Posted by: Willie | April 30, 2007, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
People are assuming names on her list are actual clients.
Assume nothing.
Posted by: octopibingo | April 30, 2007, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
What is the point of giving phone records to the news if no one posts or releases them? Give them to me, I’ll start a news website and post everything.
Posted by: Ryan | April 30, 2007, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
No body = no crime. She’s not going to jail unless crime can be proved by convicting at least one customer AND the girl involved.
Posted by: Rod | April 30, 2007, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Post the list
Posted by: John | April 30, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Yo willie, tell it to Eugene Mccarthy.
Yo jeff, its not about ABC’s enemies, its about business, a fine value indeed. Every week on friday from now until Ms Palfrey walks, a few new names with human interest (or disinterest) stories behind them are gonna ooze out. It will sell Toyotas, Bud lite and Pepsi like you won’t believe. Week after week after week. Just a few more names and no page board or congressional ethics board to staunch the slow leak….
octopibingo: yea but names that appear dozens of times? How you gonna sell that as ‘ooops wrong number again?’
And james: Why do I think that somehow you and I as taxpayers have already paid for the hanky-panky? Maybe we ought to have the GAO look into it. They are all about prurient interest anymore, arent they?
Posted by: Jake waters | April 30, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Why is everyone worried about protecting the families of the people who hired these “escorts”? I do feel bad for the families but if the husband cheated it’s his fault and their family life is a fraud. If they realy cared about their families they wouldnt have abandoned them for a night of fun. And anyone who knows about an affair and doesn’t let the families know is almost as guilty as the husband who did the act.
Posted by: Josh | April 30, 2007, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Post the names: Why would a married pesron want to use an escort service and not asked their wifes for a back rub. Don’t they have the hots for eachother anymore or does going to an escort service turn them on to their wifes? If, goverments personal are using this escort service who’s paying the bill? them or us? Why not leagelize escort service, they did it for abortion and gambling and samesex.
Posted by: j_rugur | April 30, 2007, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Post the list. Make no claims of their guilt or innocence. Let the games begin. The people on this list are likely the same people who are the self-declared national morality police. I do feel for their partners and families, but they of all people were aware of the risks. Indeed, they actively participated in the creation of the trap they are now in.
Posted by: George Witman | April 30, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
It seems the Guilty do have Honor. Only if it is the same court house. And ONE blind Judge that is not def to stupidity.
Posted by: A.J.B. | April 30, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
The reason the “madam” is charged and the client is not is in the nature of the charges themselves. The way they get these people is not usually on prostitution charges but on racketeering and tax evasion charges. The “johns” can’t be charged for that – so they go free… well, at least as far as criminal charges go. As far as the list goes – if you do not want to be humiliated don’t go to these services. You can never be charged if you don’t commit the crime and end up on the list. If they do release the list it should be done in whole and not hand picked for effect – all or nothing.
Posted by: IronHelixx | April 30, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
All of them or none of them.
Posted by: Laney Kehel | April 30, 2007, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
If you won’t show the list then you are working for the evil doers, ya know the ones Bush told you about. If you don’t produce the list you are falling for the enemies propganda and helping terrorism.
Posted by: Jim Reynolds | April 30, 2007, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
But it was this administration and their justice department that chose to persecute this woman. I’d say Justices’ Johns gotta get some special consideration here. What were they thinking?
Posted by: jake waters | April 30, 2007, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
President Clinton did wrong and he stayed in office. It is wrong for everyone not just some. Sin is SIN…..
Posted by: Rhonda McQuain | April 30, 2007, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
All names need to be listed. The network has no legal right to be judges on what names get released.
If you read the posts here, most people believe the names need to be posted.
Posted by: Rick_VT | April 30, 2007, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Print the list. Didn’t my federal tax dollars pay the salaries of these ….men. They need to answer to their employer…the American taxpayer. Sorry ’bout the families. Lies, coverups and denial will not help anyone. America needs to face up to it’s sexual hypocrisy. Print the list.
Posted by: sb | April 30, 2007, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Post the list, and post all of it: if Ms. Palfrey did nothing illegal, then she needs as many defense witnesses as she can get, the more high-powered, the better. But if it was an illegal business — well, prostitution takes two, so it’s only fair that her clients face the music along with her.
Posted by: In FlyoverLand | April 30, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
WHY NOT LEGALIZE IT AS IN EUROPE/VEGAS/MIDEAST/SOUTH AMERICA/RUSSIA/CUBA…IT IS BETTER FOR EVERYONE.
Posted by: nags | April 30, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
If a crime has been comitted, then doesn’t the public have a right to know who participated in the crime? Publish the list and let the chips fall where they may. It’s time to clean up Washinton D.C. and ABC would be considered heroes for helping the powerless citizens of this nation to accomplish this task.
Posted by: SheilaNoya | April 30, 2007, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
The trouble with this information in the hands of one network is they could edit the list and only out those they want to politically damage and protect those of their particular viewpoints. It seems to me those documents should have been copied and released to several news outlets to ensure that whatever comes out is accurate. The nasty comment that they must all be conservatives is a great example of a bias beforehand. The truth is people fail from all walks of life. Sometimes people do project their flaws on others and pretend to have no problems. The fact that anyone cares or is slightly curious suggests most people still believe we should have some standard or moral code that at least society can aim for even if people fall short.
Posted by: Checkthefacts | April 30, 2007, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
I’ve watched shows, such as Dateline, Cops, etc and see sting operations where the Johns are arrested. In the case of the DC Madam, is this a double standard? Does the law, or any of the multiple agencies, etc, really want this embarrassment? I believe I’ve seen attempts to censure her but by then, it was too little, too late. I believe they need to leave her alone.
Posted by: Dave | April 30, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
I think this story is hilariously funny!Why not just simply legalize prostitution? After all, a lot of these people who are on the list are just a bunch of hypocrites!
Posted by: Anonymous | April 30, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
But……go ahead and show us the list.
Posted by: Dave | April 30, 2007, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Good Old American Know HOw..Nice to see how creatively taxes, which pay the salaries of both politicians and civil servants, are being used.
Posted by: ginny | April 30, 2007, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
I think the only ones that are against publishing the list are the past clients. Publish the list.
Posted by: Tim | April 30, 2007, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Post the WHOLE list. Don’t just publish the Republican names, publish the Democrats, too.
Posted by: Texas Annie | May 1, 2007, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Post the list!!!
You owe it to the public. We the people pay for these hypocrites salaries…we deserve to know who they are.
Why only her?
See you on Friday at 20/20
Posted by: Richard | May 1, 2007, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Why the double standard? Why leak just the names of persons who are of one political persuasion? Apparently Republicans and conservatives have a monopoly in sinning. Where are the liberals, the high priests of the religion of tolerance – where is their vehement defense of such consensual behavior and acts? Publish EVERY name on the list!!!
Posted by: Andy | May 1, 2007, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Woo hoo! Sounds like we can expect to hear a whole bunch of Republican politicians chant in unison, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”
Posted by: Robert Leigh | May 1, 2007, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Name as many as possible! If the acts were illegal, then the clients should be named. If the acts were not illegal, then why is she being tried?
She should burn every last hypocritical official she can!
Posted by: Greg | May 1, 2007, 1:34 am 1:34 am
This happen in the badest moment for Republicans …, because I don’t think that is legal, it’s like prostitution.
Posted by: Heath Links | May 1, 2007, 3:29 am 3:29 am
I’m not happy to know my hard earned money is being taxed and spent, not only on unjustified wars, but also the salaries of officials that use it on limos, high-end restaurants, and prostitutes. It serves them right to be exposed, I didn’t sign up to pay for their sex fantasies. Idiots.
Posted by: Diane | May 1, 2007, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Wow. I had no idea the upper Washington echelon hired women for sex. Actually, I did, and so did all of you. Also, nobody cared because we all know it’s the oldest industry in the world and you can’t really stop it, you can only hope to contain it. A business like Palfrey’s is well run and respectful to her employees. It’s a far cry from a Pimp beating-up his prostitutes, or more likely, telling their prostitutes that he loves them and that’s why they gotta sell it. Palfrey made a sick world a little less sick, if you can believe that. Also, she kept our government and military running properly. Seriously, you wouldn’t want anyone making decisions for us if they weren’t getting any (See GWB).
Posted by: Grant_X | May 1, 2007, 6:13 am 6:13 am
Why is this woman being persecuted? How about going after real crimes like politicians taking bribes?? How about “The William Jefferson Bribery Case”
There are two rules of law in this country. One for the elite or governing class (once in old times known as nobles or royalty) and one for the rest of us.
I think it’s time for another revolution.
Posted by: Ed | May 1, 2007, 7:33 am 7:33 am
Um ..lets see, we shouldnt post the list to avoid huring families?? Get a CLUE. The men or women involved as clients did that already. They are responsible. POST THE LIST. The customers called and in the process destroyed trust and credibility. The wives and families should know the men or women they love are responsible.
Posted by: Will | May 1, 2007, 8:08 am 8:08 am
ABC, this story is unnecessary. Think of the pain and suffering caused to the innocent–the wives and children of those involved. We don’t even know if the acts were illegal (ie., if the alleged madam is guilty) and yet you rush to publish! For shame!
Posted by: Richard | May 1, 2007, 8:13 am 8:13 am
I bet every women in D.C. is screaming at there husbands ” are you on the list” and everyone of the husband’s is saying- “no baby,you know I love you and your the only girl for me why would I want them when I have you”……..
I think when you call an escort service alot, its called an addiction.Post the list.
Posted by: pittsburghgirl | May 1, 2007, 8:36 am 8:36 am
Men are such they need fantasies and eventually sex; I am not shocked by the fact that those men did it their way I am only surprised and disappointed that they did not take the elementary precautions to remain unknown and discreet in their actions. That tells a lot on their capabilities to manage, run and make important decisions which concern all of us.
Posted by: plandelle | May 1, 2007, 8:40 am 8:40 am
When are the citizens of the U.S. going to wake up. Elected representatives and Senators get involved with everything that is known to man. They are some who know that the some of the parties and services given in Washington are illegal and they continue to attend. Now, how does this effect families in America? How does it effect families of the elected officials? This is something that our representatives do not think about and they hurt everyone who contributes to crimes, prostitution and other activities. Let this lady tell all and lets get rid of the trash that we have in Washingtion. That will cut the budget and save tax dollars.
Posted by: Charles Brand | May 1, 2007, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Brian Ross has deliberately mentioned “conservative” and “administration” labels on the names he found on the list. He seemed gleeful at the opportunity to slander these folks. With that, he has discredited himself as a genuine seeker of facts. ABC – “All ‘Bout Cash” Whatever happened to real news?
Posted by: Kay | May 1, 2007, 8:50 am 8:50 am
I don’t approve of this kind of “service” and do not approve of people participating in it.
But isn’t it so very much more important to expose those who trade other people’s lives and livelyhoods for favors or votes?
I wish we’d all pay more attention to the important stuff …
No, my name isn’t on the list.
Posted by: Dwayne | May 1, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am
POST THE LIST! If you indeed do have the information. All the government officials and everyone else on the list should be charged just lie she is. It takes two to…well you know…….
Posted by: Megan | May 1, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Get a grip, people!! It’s “sweeps week” and ABC will release more info tonight on “20-20″.
Posted by: bls | May 1, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am
More Conservative hypocrits exposed. YEA MADAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: LSR | May 1, 2007, 9:38 am 9:38 am
$2 Million in 13 years? 100 + women employed? Is anyone doing the math here? I don’t think anyone has to pay taxes on less than $5,000.00 a year income! And just who is trying to shake up the rank and file in Washington – like that works?!! Can we please stop playing these games in the media please! Must those of us in this country with moral values and great families be lumped in and embarrased before the world at every chance. I am so tired of being humiliated and embarrased by what the Media Reports as News to the World. We are not all having sex outside marriage, most of us aren’t. We have great kids, brave and hard working men and women who are being sacrificed for your “news.” Give this poor woman her food stamps and help her get some assistance. And you cheap politicians, etc. probably didn’t get sex for your nickle and I don’t want to know your name because we know this is not about this issue. People -Do your own math.
Posted by: Carolynn Hook | May 1, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am
The list must be full of democrats in Congress. Can’t wait for the media trying to put a positive spin on that if it was ever true. You can bet if it was all republicans on that list they would have broadcasted that long and hard by now.
Posted by: Willy | May 1, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am
If as ABC claims it has phone records and has compiled a list of names from those phone records then ABC should publish the ENTIRE list.
Will there be an investigation in Washington into this list to determine if tax payer money was used for acquiring services?
Posted by: Bob | May 1, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Post the list!
Posted by: Marian | May 1, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am
The whole idea of prostitution being illegal is beyond me to start with.Its legal in some places but forbidden in others.It occurs daily in every state and country in the world. Even the most prominent people see the need for it but since we have declared it immoral, it must now occur only in the dark alleys and seedy hotels and cannot be controlled.I think we , as a country, have alot of growing up to do to get beyond this nonsense and get focused on real problems that really need our attention.
Posted by: lmiller | May 1, 2007, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Didn’t we learn just a few years ago that if a crime is commited that deals with sex it becomes a personal issue and not a crime? So what if these men traded money for sex? By following the standards established by the media as well as the highest offices in the land, this is a matter between these men and their families. Leave them alone, drop the investigation and move on to something that matters.
Posted by: Mike Loftis | May 1, 2007, 11:41 am 11:41 am
If laws were broken, then prosecution must occur. ABC should turn over the list to federal investigators and prosecutors and they should do their jobs, no matter who is involved.
$2 million is 13 years with 100+ employees? Seems like “the Madam” was working for peanuts. No wonder she doesn’t have any money to conduct an investigation and defense.
This is another opportunity for the world to laugh at us and our farcical treatment of sexuality.
Posted by: Barbara | May 1, 2007, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
The fact that the others involved were paying her and also commiting fornication or adultery is also a crime.
It may be against the Ten Commandments but it is not against the law.
Posted by: Kat | May 1, 2007, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
If my name were posted and ABC couldn’t PROVE that I had broken the law, ABC would soon be known as Dale’s TV Network.
You don’t risk ruining a reputation because a glorified hooker gives you a list of names.
Posted by: Dale | May 1, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Hmm, let’s see. Posting the list might be, say, an act of libel. Perhaps that is why the paper isn’t doing so. Cut them some slack people.
Posted by: Lauren | May 1, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Get grip on “reality”. Prostitution has a very long history and will continue unabated as long as human kind beleives that one God or another has bestowed it with “Moral Values” that somehow transend 3-4 million years of evolution. Anyone remotely knowledgeable with the evolutional history of primates understands that males are not monogamous. Never have been, never will be! Prostitution is essentially promoted by unrealistic beliefs fostered primarily by the religious right. Therefore I would expect the “list” to be somewhat weighted on the Republican side as they are likely the most frustrated by this conundrum and think that prostitution is the safest way to release a portion of their pent-up sexual oppression.
Posted by: Jack | May 1, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
If you post the list, prove that ABC reporting is not biased and post every name, no matter who is on it. Everyone -regardless of position (high or low), in or out of government, gay or straight, living or dead – should all be included without excuses that certain phone numbers were not identified, etc. If that’s impossible, then no names should be revealed.
Posted by: Brat | May 1, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Post the list, the entire list. The heat should be felt by everyone involved!!!
Posted by: JACCI | May 1, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
They should only resign if they’ve made a living by condeming the personal choices of others.
Posted by: jon in minneapolis | May 1, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
What if prostitution were legal, what then? Wouldn’t they say this was Sodom and Gomorrah? But there has been prostitution in Washington since before the Civil War and Hooker’s brigade. Thomas Jefferson hired Molly the Egyptian, a contortionist, to give the squeeze to a man from the Middle East, and maybe it even helped get the Barbary Pirates off our shipping.
Washington IS a place of gross hypocrisy. I think Ms. Palfrey ran a business which she hoped would not fit into the criminal definition of prostitution, always tricky. On superficial acquaintance with the case, I would say that she tried to do too much by remote control, that she wasn’t sufficiently “hands on”. And is she taking the heat for her girls? Boys? If so, she is a clever businesswoman. Who would want to work for someone who abandoned you?
If any of you come from the South and had ancestors there during the Civil War, you might do a little digging like I did and find that when a place like New Orleans fell, people who were respectable working class might have found a different sort of work. I’m not sure, but I think I just found out that I am the descendant of a madame. It’s a disturbing thought, but I think I can understand.
Posted by: musings | May 1, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Prostitution is oldest profession on earth so why not legalize it, regulate it, and keep the smiles on the participants faces.
If you have the list, publish it.
Posted by: John | May 1, 2007, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Buying and selling people is illegal in the U.S.
Release the list.
Arrest the Johns!
Posted by: Seriously | May 2, 2007, 1:21 am 1:21 am
It is amusing if nothing else that so many right wing hypocrites will be front and center on the list.I should note that I have nothing against legalizing prostitution ,but if you rail against it and are secretly doing it ,voters should know .I wonder if Jack Abramoff”s name is on the list and if he did more for government offcials than take them to Scotland to golf …now that would be a Story!
Posted by: derry | May 2, 2007, 7:50 am 7:50 am
Drum Roll Please……………………………since bush said he was GODS man on earth at the right time to accomplish so much good…..what if he’s not???????????????????????????here comes the WHOOPS factor?????
Posted by: frodaddy | May 2, 2007, 9:41 am 9:41 am
I think that you should release the list. Voters have the right to know about the people who are getting “massages”.
Posted by: BigChief | May 2, 2007, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Uh, in that poll, it would be “flouting,” not “flaunting.”
Posted by: No Blood for Hubris | May 2, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Where talking about adults who suppose to know right from wrong, If Paltrey goes down she should take everyone with her. I know I would if I were in her shoes. Hmmmmm imagine the official’s that help run the country engaging in illegal activity???? HYPOCRITES
Posted by: No Mercy | May 2, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am
I really love this…
You see, I live in the D.C. area. I’ve known for years what hypocritical perverts pervade this culture. They all have shiny new cars, expensive houses, employing illegal immigrants, sanctimonious stepford wives in the mean time they have wife swapping rings, infidelity is rampant as well as sexual harrassment; this is not surprising in the least. What is surprising is that someone actually is prosecuting an escort service! This is only one escort service in the area. Go to the yellow pages under “Escort” and there you have it! Tons of big expensive ads. She has a small service compared to others.
Post the list and expose Washington D.C. as the perverted “New Rome” that it is.
Posted by: Linda Cooper | May 2, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Gee, I forgot about the unmittigated drug use here – Cocaine is BACK – BIG TIME. It’s like the 80′s.
ABC really needs to do an investigation on this area. Corruption and perversion are a bi-partisan past time.
Posted by: Linda Cooper | May 2, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am
If your going to name names, name them ALL! This has been going on since 1993. Have read you are only using a recent list. Who are you protecting and why? Name them ALL or name none.
Posted by: Dee | May 2, 2007, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
There is a double standard operating here. This is nothing to brag and joke about. These men are crooks. I want to know who they are and not just the politicians. I would not patronize a lawyer, doctor, etc. who participated in this criminal activity. If they are this unethical in their personal lives, I would not trust them to be ethical in their services to me as a client or patient or believe anything they say.
Posted by: GO ABC!!! | May 2, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Post the list already. The News, when in possession of the truth, has the obligation to reveal it. Don’t let political hypocrisies continue for another minute. Reveal the list and bring the politicians’ names through the mud just like you did to the madam. Fair is fair.
Posted by: Nikolai | May 2, 2007, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
POST THE LIST! It’s time the moral hypocrits are exposed for the scum they are. Just about everyone posting here expects to find high level Republican and religious figures who preach about “family values”, and “declining morals” on this list. We want to know the truth and expose these people for the crooks and liars we know they are!
Hopefully Ms. Palfrey will live long enough to bring all of this out in open court. Hopefully, an insider judge will not find some reason to disqualify the list as “irrelevant” to the case and suppress it from seeing the light of day. Hopefully, the bosses at Disney will stay out of true investigative journalism and let the truth about their high-placed buddies be told.
Posted by: truthteller | May 2, 2007, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
What’s the big decision here .. ?? If anyone can prove that Palfrey really ran a prostitution ring – then prosecute her. If anyone can prove that clients paid for sex, then prosecute them as well.
Who cares if they are democrats or republicans, black or white, male or female ?
Obviously, this is ABC’s way of remaining in the spotlight – what other network wouldn’t do the same thing though?
As far as releasing the names – I have to agree with the poster who noted the “Duke lacrosse” case. Didn’t we learn anything….. ?? If these people are found guilty…. guess what, it’s public record, the names will be released then. But don’t ruin a person’s life because “someone heard” they solicited a prostitute.
Posted by: JD | May 2, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Release the list. Otherwise ABC is covering up for men who knowingly comitted crimes. PROSTITUTION IS ILLEGAL. These men knew it was illegal when they chose to do it. If ABC covers up for this crime, what other crimes is ABC willing to cover up just so some powerful men don’t get embarassed? How are we supposed to trust ABC if they are willing to protect these criminals?
Release this list or find a new profession.
Posted by: doit | May 2, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Lets give these bad,bad boys the hardest whip in their … by posting their names everywhere.
Posted by: juan vega | May 2, 2007, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
I promise I never had sexual relations with that girl”. I need more tome to prepare for the commitee, as he called lawmakers,friends etc. our to law enforcement can’t recall” ummm? All I know is that this is a very big problem on the hill and off. There are many families that will be hurt because of this. Having said that they all deserve it no matter what the outcome is. If they have cheated on the spouce, girl friend etc. Then the hurt party has a right to know. If the have children then they also have a right to know before they hear it from a classmate. This is a shocking story and ABC YOU NEED TO RUN IT NOW… IF YOU DON’T MAYBE A WDC JUDGE WILL STOP YOU IN KEEPING WITH THE COVERUP’S. So Give it to them ABC and its about time someone get’s something out that is good news. I am sure she did not give it to FOX because they are so anti everyone. As Bill O’Reilly said today Fox is #1. Well maybe but you ABC are #1 if you get this story out. The lady deserves to have her side told and tell all, that shes knows. So Damm the torpedos ABC FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!! GO GET’EM.
Posted by: John | May 3, 2007, 7:37 am 7:37 am
Post the list.
These men write the sex laws for the rest of us. Why should they be exempt? She is being charged with prostitution so why shouldn’t her customers be brought forward to confirm that the government if right in their charges or they are wrong? It takes two to tango.
Posted by: Mary Hysmith | May 3, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am
The complete list of phone numbers should be pubished.
Considering the track record of ABC News, and the network media in general, one is left to wonder if the reason 20/20 will refrain from publishing the list is that they have found it contains corporate and political allies of ABC News. rc21
Posted by: RC21 | May 3, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Oh,Yeah! List em all and tell it all. These arrogant self-righteous pompous so called law maker’s and other so called powerful “people” need to be held accountable for all the decision they make, personal as well as private. Most think they are bullet-proof because they work and network in Washington D.C., They need to be reminded they are working for the government (which is us), and they are there as a gift of a vote from the good people they are suppose to represent, not to indulge in teen-age type fun and games. If they have time for such foolishness then we are not getting our money’s worth.
Posted by: Shirgirl | May 3, 2007, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
I can’t help but be angry with this womans decision on calling out names of clients. She’s on a sinking ship, and she apparently decided to take everyone down with her.
ABC’s in a tough spot now.
Posted by: Marc | May 3, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
you’ve listed “Jeane Palfrey” already, so do the honorable thing and stop being hypocritical. List all of the names or none of the names. Same goes for the prosecutors, all or none stop being hypocrites.
Posted by: scooter | May 3, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
This is probably one of the most ingenious defense strategies I’ve ever seen. She is accused of prostitution. She has a list of names. By naming these people, they have no choice but to go public in support of her defense to “clear” their own name. It’s funny that the people who think they should be responsible telling me what is “Decent” through things like censorship are smack dab in the middle of this mess! Unfortunately, here is what will happen…. just prior to airing Friday someone will lean on this Judge and he’ll order the list not to be released. Gotta love this country! Wouldn’t live anywhere else!
Posted by: Joe | May 3, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
I’m shocked, absolutely shocked that prostitution is going on in the D.C. area. I’m proud that our fine law enforcement agencies are prosecuting those involved to the fullest. I hope this crackdown spreads to the rest of the country, and after that we should bring back prohibition.
Posted by: Mason | May 3, 2007, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Isn’t the list just based on phone records? If so, the list should not be posted blindly. What if someone dialed a wrong number? What if an old phone number now belongs to someone else (the list goes back 13 years for crying out loud). Research needs to be done to verify any name/number that is made public. Post the entire list and innocent people will be unfairly implicated.
Posted by: Paul | May 4, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Myself I am sick Of Washington, They lie all the time and get by with it!!
I hope they all get to go to jail Why does she have to pay for the cheaters and liars!!!
Posted by: D | May 4, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am
The media posted the video of the Virginia Tech shootings but not the list?
Can you say hypocrites?
Posted by: Mister C | May 4, 2007, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
It’s just so coincidental that ABC is ready for this special during sweeps week.
Publish the high profile people on the list, ignore the rest, and be done with it.
By high profile, I mean people who actively seek out tv, radio, and print appearances. Get it done with, and quit milking the story. It’s presstitution otherwise.
Posted by: trifecta | May 4, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
She was investigated by the Federal Government and now is being charged. It is hard to believe that with all the problems of contract fraud with Katrina, Pentagon overcharges, terrorists, drug dealers that this was worthy of attention by the Justice Department, but there you go.
Regardless, her client list is confirmed by phone calls and not based on her word. Making excuses for who is on that list is absurd. If she provided an illegal service and others availed themselves of it, they should not be immune from scruitny or criticism.
The next time maybe they will take a lesson from TV and buy a disposable prepaid cell phone.
If you don’t think they exercised bad judgement, just admit they are stupid.
Posted by: geek | May 4, 2007, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Given the ABC liberal bias I expect they found prominent democrats on the list. They tell us WH officials are listed. They fail to mention if any high profile dems are listed. Not a coincidence and probably the reason they with held the information.
Posted by: M. Mover | May 5, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Interesting that the only person named was a Bush Administration official. I suspecct the problem is that many on the list turned out to be people that work for or are high profile democrats.
No wonder the vast majority of the American people have no respect for the press. ABC has proven they are in the pocket of the Democrat party.
If not they should release all the records!
Posted by: Tom | May 6, 2007, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Post the list. A lot of us are sick and tired of the media deciding what we should and shouldn’t know. Your job is to report the news – so report it.
Posted by: Chuck B | May 6, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Jeane Palfrey, dubbed as the D.C. Madam should expose everybody in her little black book, and not look back. Yes, there will be wives and children that will be hurt by the exposure. It’s time to clean up our government officials and hold ALL OF THEM accountable for what we pay them for.
Thank you Jean Palfrey for exposing them…if it took you running our escort service to do it I say YEA! At least now we know the truth…and the truth will assist us with who to vote for the next time we vote.
Next it’s time to clean up our states and their officials. Believe me, what is in WDC is also in Florida and any other state. I say lets clean the whole house from top to bottom.
Posted by: Genny | May 7, 2007, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
And what is the truth?
Human beings have sex!! OMG (Oh, My God) – heavan forbid – we are all going to burn in hell
Charge them ALL!! Make them plea bargain and pay the government crooks a monthly fee!! Before they are done, we all will be listed as sex perverts for the mere action of having sex. Buy hey, the national debt will be paid off in a matter of months!!
Then they bomb another country!!
Posted by: Sue100 | May 7, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Paltry hurt no children by her business. That would be the responsibility of their fathers. Why should she protect them when those guys would let her be sailed down the river to death?
Who cared about their families and children? Come on.
Posted by: Sue100 | May 7, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
i will like to meet one of you guys. u all are great guys.i love you all. keep it up.
Posted by: IJILUSI OPE | June 15, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Post all the names and let the chips fall where the republicans lay.
Posted by: Ednonymous | July 10, 2007, 1:40 am 1:40 am
Same thing with Julia Moya, convicted in NYC a couple years ago. Wish she’d publish her list!!! It’s high time these clients stop getting a pass while the girls take all the blame.
Posted by: Sandy | July 10, 2007, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I think its right to publish this stuff… Did anyone hold back on our president Bill Clinton??? NO! I beleive it is our right to know…
Everyone keeps saying.. “It will ruin the lives of the men who were involved..”
In my opinion, they should have thought about their lives being ruined before they did what they did..
I AM ALL FOR KNOWING what they did…
If someone gets arrested for hiring a hooker, their name is all over the news and news paper. Whats the difference?
Posted by: Jay | July 10, 2007, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
This is wonderful the first one to jump out of the bag is from Louisiana. But he’s already talked to GOD and his wife.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Posted by: New Orleans Lady | July 10, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Post the list for all to see what our goverment officials are really up to. They crucifyed Clinton for an affair, so let’s see who has to pay for it.
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Posted by: rjekolod | July 12, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am
I don’t understand why people that claim they are Christians are so beaten up by those that are looking out looking for us to make a mistake. If that were the case, then Christ died for nothing because NO ONE no matter how much they love and believe in Christ is perfect. Christ calls for us to sin no more. If we are truly Christian-caring people, then we need to stop “playing God” by judging others, esp. when we, ourselves, ARE NOT perfect!
Those that see us as hypocrites need to be careful about…what you might be hypocritical about yourself. It’s just not the Christians that should “two sides”, we all do (and that’s where confusion and misinterpretations do occur. It’s not about a “religion” because people “religiously” get into trouble, and do what they do….”religiously.” But it’s what we’ll do with the RELATIONSHIP that will determine our eternity. Just be careful in the “finger pointing/judging.” Those without a sin are the ONLY one’s that can “cast the stones”, and Jesus wouldn’t do that! He loves us too much to let us rot in our sinful selves. He’s always there to heal ourselves from ourselves. And don’t forget that it wasn’t Eve that “messed things up”; it was satan who “messed things up”, and it will continue to be satan until Christ comes again.
Posted by: Suzanne W | April 11, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
DC Madamn and a Conspiracy Theory, of course. I have lived years with government abuse and have told my relatives and friends, when I die, our government did it! Yes, I have all the proof needed!
Posted by: Victim | May 12, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Someone should write a book about this with all the details of what happened. That would be fascinating.
Posted by: Keith_Alexandria | December 28, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am