Apr 12, 2007 7:49am

Don’t Feel Too Sorry for the Dukies

Mike Nifong, the North Carolina prosecutor who pursued a case of rape and kidnapping against three Duke University lacrosse players, has been found to have been reckless and deceitful in the discharge of his duties according to the state’s attorney general. He abused the power the people of Durham granted him. Based on the public record of what he did in this case, he may well be properly disbarred.

The accuser in this case has been shown to be either a vicious liar or a troubled fantasist.

The three young men who she accused are truly innocent of the charges brought against them according to the North Carolina Attorney General and the investigation led by his office.

But perhaps the outpouring of sympathy for Reade Seligman, Collin Finnerty and David Evans is just a bit misplaced. They got special treatment in the justice system–both negative and positive. The conduct of the lacrosse team of which they were members was not admirable on the night of the incident, to say the least. And there are so many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct in this country who never get the high-priced legal representation and the high-profile, high-minded vindication that it strikes me as just a bit unseemly to heap praise and sympathy on these particular men.

So as we rightly cover the vindication of these young men and focus on the genuine ordeal they have endured, let us also remember a few other things:

They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.

Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.

During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.

Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.

The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.

As students of Duke University or other elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives. There is a very large cushion under them–the one that softens the blows of life for most of those who go to Duke or similar places, and have connections through family, friends and school to all kinds of prospects for success. They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.

And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year.  The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is. Look for a moment at what James Giles endured

I hope we all keep him and others in mind, as we cover the celebrated exoneration of well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized young men whose conduct, while not illegal, was not entirely admirable, either. They aren’t heroes. They aren’t boys. They are young men who were victimized by a reckless prosecutor–and had the resources the fight him off.

User Comments

Wow. Don’t feel too sorry for some guys who wrongly accused of rape?
Hope you’re never in their shoes.

Posted by: McFly | April 12, 2007, 8:12 am 8:12 am

I don’t feel sorry for the Duke LaCrosse players. When you look at the number of African-American men who have been charged and found guilty in a rush for judgement, they just received a “little taste” of what African-Americans have experienced for decades.
There are men who have served decades in prison only to be found innocent after spending 10-20 years of their life behind bars.

Posted by: NaDine | April 12, 2007, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Nonsense! Evans has already lost a job offer. Nifong should be made to repay ALL legal fees for all three players, and pay Evans annually an amount equivalent to the salary he lost by losing the job offer (with annual percent increases = typical career path increases for next 40 years [typical career length]). I doubt any of the three players will ever be able to hold a corporate white-collar job with their reputations ruined. Saying they deserve no sympathy because they made a mistake by having the party is a bit extreme. I made a silly mistake at a bridge tournament last week (I drew one too many rounds of trump) but didn’t lose a job, pay roughly $1,000,000 in legal fees, or suffer anything more than a transiently bruised ego. EW

Posted by: E Williams | April 12, 2007, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Their conduct was unbecoming to be sure but no worse than most college age men. No matter how unbecoming and rude they may have been they did not deserve to be accused of something so horrible.
Nifong should be tried for this crime against these young men, loose his license to practice law, be barred from ever teaching or assisting a law firm in any way shape or form and serve time.
He targeted these young men for political gain. If it had not been an election year this story would not have made print media.
These young men are rather amazing in that they are choosing not to go after the accuser. I don’t know if I’d have that much compassion for this troubled soul but clearly they do.
Stop inciting class warfare. This was WRONG and it makes no difference who it happened to. It was WRONG.

Posted by: Tom | April 12, 2007, 8:22 am 8:22 am

One must feel some sympathy for these guys, but we must also remember that these are not upstanding individuals. They are priveleged rich men who finally had a year of adversity in their lives as a side effect of their reckless partying…boo hoo. The public will soon forget these men, and the tarnish will wear off their names soon after. Hmmm…I wonder what the after-party from their press conference was like.

Posted by: Jaybird | April 12, 2007, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Let’s be serious everyone. These guys are going to be alright. They had a rough year. But they come from rich and connected families. In a week, this will all pass and they will move on to be wealthy and powerful like they would have in the first place. They may have been exonerated of all charges. But I think it is naive to think that no improper behavior occurred that evening.

Posted by: Realist | April 12, 2007, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Taking issue with the treatment of these young men because their behavior on the night in question was not admirable is like saying we should not have been outraged by the assasination of John Kennedy because of his moral misconduct as President. Anytime a public officer of the court misuses is authority to prosecute someone he knows to be innocent, or even suspects might be innocent, he is jeopordizing the freedom of all of us. Further, don’t underestimate the part the news services played in this disaster. How much do you think the attention of the national news broadcasters had in pushing this matter forward and inspiring Mr. Knifong to use the prosecution to put himself in a better light before the voters in order to get reelected. You are not innocent in this matter and should look very closely at how much the stories you choose to magnify for the sake of ratings deserve the attention you give and whether you have verified the facts before you take them public. Where would we be today if someone had asked for real proof of WMDs before supporting a war in Iraq?

Posted by: M Logan | April 12, 2007, 8:30 am 8:30 am

So, Terry, by your logic, if there are some people who get unjustly accused or convicted of crimes, then that means there’s no sympathy for anyone else? What a load! Two wrongs do not make a right, in ANY circumstance! Sure, they are “rich kids”; sure, they got high-priced attorneys; but remember that it was their names that got spalshed across America for a year. How about this, Terry – let someone accuse you of plaigiarism, splash your name across every media outlet in the country for a year, and then retract that accusation. How WOULD YOU FEEL?

Posted by: chuck | April 12, 2007, 8:35 am 8:35 am

The article states:
“MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”
Yes, and that’s exactly why these young men deserve restitution. In other, lower-profile cases, the court does what the court does, and, hopefully, justice finally prevails. In the case of these young men, their names were tied to their alledged misdeeds in headlines all across the country. They were not merely falsely accused and indicted on little or no evidence, they were publicly slimed, on a regular basis, for a year or more.
Nifong, whose personal vendetta apparently was not swayed by a total lack of corroborating evidence, should do hard time after paying full restitution.

Posted by: Robert | April 12, 2007, 8:37 am 8:37 am

E. Williams, do you really believe that it makes no difference who it happened to? Consider this hypothetical…a prostitute accuses someone of rape…a Beverly Hills housewife accuses someone of rape. Who gets more media coverage? Who is more believable? Who gets better legal representation? Who gets more sympathy from the public? Although my example exaggerates the situation, this kind of influence is pervasive. The argument that there is no class (or race) influence in this case is at best flimsy and potentially dangerous.

Posted by: Jaybird | April 12, 2007, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Who cares about feeling sorry for the accused – sympathy is a nice sentiment, but that’s not what this is about. These young men were wrongfully accused of disgusting crimes that they did not commit, and they were exploited by leaders in their community, national figureheads (Sharpton, Jackson), and their own teachers. Everyone who threw mud at these boys had an agenda to push, publicity to gain, and they’ve all faded quietly into the background. To suggest that these wrongs should be dismissed in the eyes of the public because the victims were well-connected, rich, white men is simply despicable. You do all wrongfully accused persons a disservice by suggesting the Duke students’ plight is worth less because of their social & economic status. The system is broken – people of all class & color suffer at the hands of power-hungry politicians and lawmakers every day, and this case has brought it to light. So no, don’t feel sorry for the men, but acknowledge that
they experienced an undeniable injustice that should be neither ignored nor rationalized.

Posted by: Anne | April 12, 2007, 8:48 am 8:48 am

I am proud to say that I was a college athlete. As a member of a Division 1 team in the same conference as Duke University, I understood that I was representing my University, therefore expected to behave accordingly. To say, “Their conduct was unbecoming to be sure but no worse than most college age men” implies that this behavior was acceptable. I can assure you that as a college athlete, it was not “acceptable”. Athletes are given opportunity and financial assistance that is not available to all students. An athlete needs to appreciate this, respect the honor, and behave accordingly.
Having a party with kids consuming alcohol underage, hiring strippers, and using racial epithets, should not be condoned when representing an institution such as Duke University. Yes, it is sad that these students were falsely accused… but back in the days when parents actually gave constructive advice instead of “fixing” their children’s mistakes… my parents gave me this advice: “If you play with fire, you will get burned.” I don’t know, seems like a pretty simple concept for most people. I would think that a student with the academic potential of a Duke University athlete, should be able to understand that logic.
As one of these students has previously been charged with assault, I can only say this… “You have made your bed, now you must sleep in it.”
Good luck to these boys, and let us all hope that after this experience, they take this as a lesson learned. In most cases, Trouble is an invited guest… it does not often come to find you.

Posted by: DRD | April 12, 2007, 8:52 am 8:52 am

Who are you and what rock did you crawl out from under?
Racial epithets? First amendment to the constitution.
Paid $800 for strippers? Supply and Demand
Previous offenses? No bearing.
Resources for attorneys? What if it was your kid?
You’re kind of journalism is troublesome BUT I won’t hold it against YOU!
Either they did something illegal or they didn’t.

Posted by: Don | April 12, 2007, 8:53 am 8:53 am

People of all classes and colours are not suffering prosecutorial injustice equally in America. The USA has a world-record shattering number of people in prison, almost half of whom are black men. Not bad considering black men are around 7% of the US population.

Posted by: John | April 12, 2007, 8:54 am 8:54 am

WOW! Look at the commentary -theme running through out most of the comments, one that is imploding our country every darn day, the old rich vs. poor perception.
First, IF these kids do indeed hail from ‘rich’ families, what does that say about their families? I’ll tell you what it says, it means they busted their humps to get where they are today despite a majority in this country who push more and more to take from them (because just they are ‘RICH’) and give it to those who are basically lazy and undisciplined!
Bottom line…who cares if they kids are ‘privileged,’ poor or purple in color! In my opinion, these kids were done dirty by a pompous lawyer and then excoriated by the media, as usual, race baiters and whacked out Duke professors.
If this had happened to my kid, Mr. Moran, I’d have your colleagues, Mr. Nifong and the race baiter’s heads served up a silver platter! And when finished, my son would indeed be one rich dude!

Posted by: Sheep Dog | April 12, 2007, 9:01 am 9:01 am

I’m at a loss for words, but not really surprised by the reaction to Mr. Moran’s post on the Duke Lacrosse team scandal. So many here have shown a harsh reaction to the post. And the reactions have shown a willingness to IGNORE the true point of this post. I don’t think these young men need any further defense. If you want to express outrage, then be outraged about the many others who’ve been victimized by a prosecutor who was “reckless and deceitful in the discharge of his duties”. I’d bet you wouldn’t have to look past your own backyards!!!

Posted by: ea_iii | April 12, 2007, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Articles written by idiots like this author are the real problem. Instead of focusing on the illegal and immoral behavior of a power hungry DA, he’s focusing on something that’s more media-friendly, like the race and social classes of the falsely accused. Saying they shouldn’t receive sympathy, I hope this author loses jobs and friends because someone falsely accuses him a crime and he has no outlet to defend himself because other people want to believe the “good story” rather than the truth.
Comparing their plight to the Rutgers basketball game was by far the most short-sighted and ignorant comment in the article. These guys were possibly going to prison for 30 years based on a lie. They were going to lose their lives. The Rutgers basketball team had a comment made about them by some old white bigot on the radio, and will recover within a week. Plus, the comments aren’t even as bad as the things you hear on a hip-hop/rap radio station.

Posted by: Mike | April 12, 2007, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Their conduct was unbecoming to be sure but no worse than most college age men. tom
To use that as some kind of justification for being boorish certainly lowers the bar for those who have never engaged in such low quality behavior. They may not have deserved the charges and ensuing controversy, but we are all locked into the consequences of our choices.

Posted by: kurt | April 12, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Usually I respect Terry Moran, but this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read about the case. Good heavens, man! You really need to rethink this.

Posted by: Dave | April 12, 2007, 9:12 am 9:12 am

So you will not use your connections to get your child to a better school? Sure!! I hope your children never have to live go through a national media frenzy which your kind of journalism created. They should get the same kind of coverage for their innocence

Posted by: Pat | April 12, 2007, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Terry,
You are weird man. Colleged aged men drinking before they are 21 and going to party with strippers. Wow, that is crazy. I would put those kids right behind Hitler and Stalin on my morally reprehensible spectrum. As for the racial epithets, not acceptable, but who is to say any of the 3 ever used them. It appears Seligman was not even at the party when most of the shannigans were going on. I do not think the kids are heroes, but no matter how you stack it or ratinolize it on an individual level these kids got royally screwed.

Posted by: Jay | April 12, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Terry’s comments and opinions are right on the money. From the start, I was suspicious of the accusations, but the style of life that caught the Dukies in this mess was very clear. When you play in the gutter, you get dirty, and these guys have been in that gutter for a very long time. As the republicans are fond of chanting, “the system works”. It may have been twisted, but a collection of pampered and privileged bums got the type of exposure they deserve. So when people want to protect them, they should be asking themselves if these are the kinds of males they want their daughters to date.

Posted by: MaryLou Harper | April 12, 2007, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Terry:
I totally agree with you – its not the first time that well-to-do preppies have gotten off because of their background. Those that think demeaning women in any way, shape or form is what men are put on this earth for, and whether the woman is good, bad or indifferent is the least of their worries. Had they had Ken Starr on their case, innocent or not, he would have not given up until he found something to make them guilty. At least Bill Clinton never demeaned, or made Monica look bad – she did that by telling her good friend who told the world. Try living under the circumstances Bill Clinton did and see if these three preppies can become the exemplary person he has. Its unfortunate their first disappointment in life had to be this severe – and of course we can’t compare them to the thousands of others who have been unjustly incarcerated, some for long periods of time or life, because they don’t have the resources. And when I hear – “they’re doing what ever other college guy has done,” it just galls me. That’s the most assinine answer so overused. If these preppies think they went through a year of hell, how about the young girls who attend a frat party and end up being raped, maybe pregnant, and can’t prove who was responsible because she had been drinking. I don’t think her time in hell is one year and forgotten. Especially if she’s not rich, whethr nnocent or guilty.
Bottom line is – life is not fair, and justice is not fair. If the lawyer knew, as the preppies say, that they were not guilty – then he’s the guilty one. If he knew he was dealing with a sick person, it should never have gone on. If the preppies lawyers were the best in the country – obviously they weren’t smart – they didn’t stop it early on. They obviously made quite a bundle off these preppies’ families. Money doesn’t always buy the best.

Posted by: norma schultz | April 12, 2007, 9:25 am 9:25 am

I’m sick of hearing that because these boys are not underprivileged kids, then they deserve no pity…. people are so spiteful and envious. The constant comments of how bad the boys were for hiring strippers is also funny – they are college aged boys… I believe it is probably very common. But, what of the girls who come over to a party of men to dance naked….. no one wants to address their responsibility in this situation. Because the women were black people tend to make this a racial issue…. that’s just plain krap!

Posted by: Angela | April 12, 2007, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Whoa, Terry,
Not feeling sorry for the “Dukies” does not compute. Of course there are many other poor or minority members of our society who are jailed because they couldn’t afford the high priced defense these 3 young men had. But these people and the “Dukies” were equally injured by what happened. The fact that their parents were able (and willing) to put up the dollars to go after that arrogant nutcase Nifong helped the rich and poor alike. He will no longer be around to invent dramatic causes to advance his political career. And it might serve as a warning to a few others like him out there. I hope those boys do sue him and strip him of every penny he has. The shame of this whole mess is that no one seems to intend to go after that lying piece of human garbage who started the whole mess. She was blatantly caught in her lies. Scooter Libby is headed to jail for his lies. Martha Stewart went to jail for hers. And neither of the things they did were considered sufficient enough to prosecute them for a crime. Making a false accusation is. She should be prosecuted for that, as well as lying. Apparently when it comes to lying all the discrimination is aimed at the white “haves”. That is not OK with me. Justice should be color blind and money blind. As far as I’ve read this AM, only Fox News has decided to publish an expose on her whole sordid existence. How many more men is she going to be able to bring charges against before she’s stopped? As a woman, it makes me furious. Women ARE raped. Women ARE victims of domestic abuse. But because of her, and a few others like her, women with real injuries are viewed with scepticism when they report it. And because of that, real abusers go free. As far as I could see from the blogs I’ve been reading, she never got much sympathy from the females of America from day one. That’s because we saw the inconsistancies in her story from day one. We didn’t believe her. And because we knew the real crime here is what she’s done to women as a group. Now women with legitamate injuries will have to think a little harder about bringing charges out of fear of being disbelieved. While she goes scot free to continue with her tawdry lifestyle. Oh, and BTW, Terry… I remember being shocked way back in the 70′s when it became OK to hire a sripper to come into a home or workplace to spice up some guy’s birthday party. Guess it must have been legal, since it’s still openly going on. How can I blame these guys for hiring strippers to spice up their party, when it was my generation that taught them it was a cool thing to do??? Whew! I feel better for having gotten that off my chest. Have a great day, y’all!! Scarlett

Posted by: Scarlett McCarthy | April 12, 2007, 9:29 am 9:29 am

I can’t believe this news article! How can anyone think that these young men won’t be impacted by the last year? True — they are no saints — are you Mr. Moran free from mistakes? Does that mean that you too would be unharmed by false allegations? That your family, no matter how wealthy, deserves to go through this experience and endure the emotional and financial impact it clearly must have taken on everyone in their family.
These young men acknowledged that they were blessed to have the ability to afford lawyers and others are not so lucky. But what are you suggesting Mr. Moran that they didn’t deserve yesterday? They most certainly deserved it! Their pictures were splashed all across every news outlet for months. And today — only hours later, depending on the media source, you can hardly find the headline indicating their innocence. Even these young men that are not perfect were eloquent enough to address the fact that changes need to occur so that everyone is presumed innocent.
Mr. Moran, it is a shame that you took this HORRIBLE event and created a headline that says don’t feel sorry for them. Right now, I feel sorry for them and sorry for you! And yet — I still pray that you and no one else have to walk in their shoes.
This idea that people of privilege aren’t caring and thoughtful is ridiculous. Your article continued to feed into the stereotypes of our nation. It’s disappointing that you, a “respected” newsman couldn’t see the big picture and realize that despite their flaws — no one, black or white, deserves to experience what these young men and their families endured.
Lastly, what was said about the Rutgers woman was outrageous and wrong! But, for you to compare these two cases is insensitive and outrageous. These women had horrible words said about them. These three boys were handcuffed, falsely accused, spent 13 months wondering if the better part of their lives would be spent in jail….etc. The Rutgers woman will most certainly be impacted and my heart goes out to them. It is a shame that your heart can’t see the challenges these young men faced and the lasting impact it will have on them too.

Posted by: J. | April 12, 2007, 9:37 am 9:37 am

great article

Posted by: sharris | April 12, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Terry Moran, I think there’s a talk-radio spot opening up if you want it. No, seriously. Don’t feel to bad for them. Their names and their university have been irreperably smeared by a group of race pandering liars for a year and we should not feel bad for them because “they come from rich and connected families.” Do rich and connected families not have eyes, subject to the same diseases, healed in the same means.
They had the resources to fight him off, but now they are victims of a recless ‘journalist’ and unfortunately, don’t have Al Sharpton to call for his resignation.

Posted by: fiore | April 12, 2007, 9:47 am 9:47 am

I think if you had just deleted the words “don’t feel too sorry” for these boys, then people wouldn’t get so angry. You made EXCELLENT valid points that should be recognized, but often people don’t get past the emotion to see and understand those points.

Posted by: Raechel | April 12, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Psst. J – it’s not a “news article”…its an editorial – pure commentary and opinion…happily disagree but don’t pretend he’s “reporting”

Posted by: Anne | April 12, 2007, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Wow, talk about blaming the victims (the Dukies in case you were wondering). While you want us to remember “a few things” about that night, you should take note that everything you mention was legal.
Filing a false police report was not.
It sounds like this blog was written to help you sleep better at night. No doubt you were one of the many who presumed they were guilty because of your own white guilt.

Posted by: Evan | April 12, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

This article is almost comical. I have now lost any and all respect I had for ABC News. This is nothing but a classic LIBERAL response from an undeniably LIBERAL slanting news media. I wonder what would have happened if these were three RICH black men accused (and basically tried in the media) of raping a white woman. Had they then been found innocent I bet the tone of Mr. Moran’s article would have been slightly different. It probably would not have been “Let’s not feel too sorry for the rich guys”, but would have decried the racism and injustice that led to the whole debacle in the first place….as a good LIBERAL media member would do.
The fact that these boys come from rich families makes them targets of the LIBERAL media….a media that jumps to conclusions and then when proven wrong tries to downplay the injustice done simply because the accused weren’t members of their favorite minority groups. When will Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton be apologizing for their role in the injustice done here? Probably never…because they are opportunists and have distanced themselves from this in a typical cowardly manner. Besides, Terry Moran has already written what would be their likely response.

Posted by: TC | April 12, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

The liberal media stikes again. This never would have been blown so out of proportion if it were not three whites boys that looked like they might be wronging a black women…..the media and prosicuter jump to convict in the press without all the facts. Do I hear any appologies from Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson???? Or are they along with the sick liberal media too busy hanging a shock jock who was just using freedom of speach??? There are lots of in justices that occur every day and the press MUST stop convicting people in the media. Terry Morin is way short sided on his views….he doesn’t slur people, he only implies. Sooo ABC is that OK or should you hang him out ot dry? Why is his oponion important? He is surposed to report the news NOT make the news.

Posted by: judyK | April 12, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Ahh, so b/c these kids are rich then we shouldn’t care about their misfortune? That makes sense. I’m glad you and many of the posters on this site are not judges. Dirty rich people. What were they thinking. They shouldn’t have been ambitious. Sure, there are a lot of evil rich people, but just b/c you’re rich does not mean you don’t deserve justice or compassion!!! Are you sure your name isn’t Terry Moron?

Posted by: JM | April 12, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am

I presume that this would continue to be your view should you or your children someday be indicted for a crime of which you were innocent?

Posted by: Jane | April 12, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

TC,
Hats off to you…you NAILED IT!

Posted by: Sheep Dog | April 12, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

TC………Spot on could not have said it better myself

Posted by: Jon | April 12, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

The key to this whole thing is in Terry’s last paragraph. “They aren’t heroes. They aren’t boys. They are young men who were victimized by a reckless prosecutor–and had the resources the fight him off.” This whole incident was a hurdle for the boys, not a brick wall. Yes, it ‘sucks’ that they had to go through a whole year wondering how the case would turn out, but it’s over with. Either they can use this experience to build character, or they use it to weedle sympathy. I think things eventually turned out alright, their innocense proven, Nifong’s BIG mistakes exposed…Now learn from it. Figure out WHY it happened, and find steps to prevent it from happening in other places, to ALL other people. Perhaps the media did overexpose and propell the case, but it helped flush out a flaw, opened it, and gave us room to work.

Posted by: Erbie | April 12, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Can you really be that stupid ?

Posted by: phillip essenhigh | April 12, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Unbelievable. These young men deserve less attention simply because they come from privileged backgrounds? Does having money make any of them any less of a victim?
True, there surely are countless cases of injustices in the country every year in which the falsely accused do not get the attention that these three young men are getting. However, those wrongly accused probably didn’t have the intense media coverage and public protests thrust upon them like the Duke students did. In the court of public opinion, they were already convicted!
Will the heads of the major news outlets, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and everyone else who assumed guilt in this case now offer public apologies to these kids?

Posted by: Johnny | April 12, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Imus got fired for saying what they thought they were paying for. These young men choose to have what they thought was a great party. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong thing. The crime was and still is defending that behavior.

Posted by: Barbara Goetz | April 12, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Let’s be honest with what this article REALLY is…it’s about getting attention. It’s an article meant to provoke, not to say what’s true and right. And why would we want such attention? Mmm, to get noticed, to make more money, etc. And, if Terry Moron wants more money then how is he any different than these “rich Dukies?” Such a double standard. Envious of those that have, while being conniving to get more.
I’m sick of the news, b/c it’s not reporting, it’s propoganda made not by the government, but by those who need more money, more viewers, and more attention for more ad money.

Posted by: JM | April 12, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Wow, there are alot of opinions out there.
Terry, I have to agree with you.
Now regarding responses that include racism, get over it!
I wasn’t here back in the days of slavery and most likely most of you weren’t either! You want racism to stop, then stop throwing it in our faces. As long as the good reverend’s are on their soap boxes, it will never end.
The Duke guys will be fine. They will reap the rewards with being known for something.
I will never be famous for anything but I am good enough for the life I live!

Posted by: CHERYL | April 12, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Terry, although you make some valid points about the justice system, your comments advocating that we all not concern ourselves with the plight of these young men because they are “rich” and have “connections” are absurd and disingenuous. Do you not use your connections daily? Would you not use all of your resources to protect your children from false accusations that had the potential to ruin their lives? Of course you would. And you would feel similarly agrieved by such a case.
Further, you indicate that there are many less fortunate people out there who the system has failed and continues to fail. Last time I checked, you worked for a NEWS ORGANIZATION. So, go out there and report on those cases. Become their advocates. Shine the light you have been afforded to illuminate the problems you so rightly identify. The fact of the matter is that you will not do so because it is not marketable. You will not find advertising buyers. So before you lecture the public on their morals and ethics, look at home first.

Posted by: Confused | April 12, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am

I find this appalling. All of it. I especially find it unsettling that Mr. Moran believes that students attending Duke or other similar schools are cushioned from the real world! Give me a break. These young men obviously have the brain power to get into Duke and to stay there. My parents graduated from Duke as did my two nieces. My father was the son of missionaries and my nieces are the daughters of a minister and a school teacher. Both of these families have/had limited funds but felt education was a priority. Before one pigeon-hole’s everyone, he should conduct the necessary research. Mr. Moran is sorely wrong about this.

Posted by: jackie | April 12, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Is this surprising to anyone that a news anchor for ABC news is spewing the standard liberal bias that they have become so famous for? Moran should be making a personal appearance at the homes of thses three kids to apologize for the one sided coverage his network provided for this case. Pitiful, but not a surprise.

Posted by: jimb | April 12, 2007, 11:15 am 11:15 am

This is absurd. I think these young men should be given an apology from all those who prematurely condemned them. I agree with the poster who stated that I was not around during the time of slavery and neither were most who still use slavery to throw in our faces. Yes, what happened the night of the lacrosse team party was unseemly and repulsive, but the accuser’s story was never very believable. Revs. Sharpton and Jackson must be ecstatic that they have a new controversy to protest or else they just might have to apologize to the young men they wrongfully accused. Are Sharpton and Jackson going to apologize to these boys? Is Oprah going to invite them on her show to speak of the legal injustices they have been subjected to because they are wealthy white folk? Probably not. The “Dukies” and their families did not ask for an apology from Sharpton, Jackson and all of the others that prematurely proclaimed their guilt, but I think that we should demand that they get one, just like others demanded that the RU women’s team get one.

Posted by: MPC | April 12, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I would never, EVER hire such men. Individuals like these who show such utter disrespect to women and minorities would never even hope to get a job working for me no matter how “well-connected” or “educated” they are. Treating people like objects or property is not the kind of character trait I would want in anyone I would employ. No, they shouldn’t have been falsely accused of rape, but they shouldn’t have treated these women like they were soulless pieces of meat, either.

Posted by: Shani | April 12, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am

The fact that these three men come from wealthy backgrounds has nothing to do with this case. It’s comparing apples to oranges. They were wrongly accused and the arrogance of the prosecution had to be addressed and must be punished. Maybe this case will have a positive outcome for all races. Maybe, just maybe, prosecutors will now take a closer look at all the evidence before they judge the accused. That’s assuming prosecutors have evaluated the outcome of this case and have learned something from it.

Posted by: linda | April 12, 2007, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Well, as long as we’re so closely scrutinizing these young men’s pasts and risky behaviors as an indication of their guilt, what was the alleged victim in the habit of doing? — STRIPPING her clothes off and doing sexy dances in front of rowdy groups of young males.

Posted by: smiskie | April 12, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Gee Terry. There are an awful lot of negative comments here. Is that what you wanted or do you actually feel that judgemental against three innocent people.
I know a person that wound up in the hospital with chest pains after being wrongfully and vengefully accused. His family lost their life savings but we are not to feel too sorry for these people? You better hope this never happens to you.
I will never watch ABC News again because of you and your tasteless comments.

Posted by: gongo | April 12, 2007, 11:40 am 11:40 am

These are nasty, entitled young men who finally felt some consequences for years of ugly behavior. Granted, if they are not guilty, the consequences shouldn’t stick, but I hardly think they qualify as victims. After all, THEY decided to bring unknown individuals (strippers) into their home, THEY failed to take appropriate action when it was clear this stranger was not functional, and THEY ignited racial tensions by their ignorant comments. If they didn’t do the crime, they shouldn’t do the time, but they are not innocent victims.
Did the AG’s news conference strike anyone as political pandering? I have no idea what his party affiliation is, but would guess he’s a Republican based on his evident glee in taking full advantage of his opportunity to slam Nifong (a Democrat and, apparently, an idiot).

Posted by: Michele Manion | April 12, 2007, 11:47 am 11:47 am

First of all, I didn’t realize there was “praise” being heaped upon these young men.
Second, why should it matter that they requested a white stripper? If a service is for sale or hire legally (whether you agree or disagree with the availability and provision of that service) isn’t it the purchaser’s right to specify precisely what it is they want to purchase?
Finally, the fact that these young men were lucky enough to have families with financial resources should in no way matter to whether one feels sorry for them or not. Its as if you think its okay that their famiiies will likely have to pay approximately 1 million each in legal bills.
I expect more of you Moran. Hope its never your son or daughter in such a predicament.

Posted by: carl | April 12, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Are you sure its not Terry Moron?

Posted by: Phil | April 12, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

To relate this case to the Rutgers case is an outrage, but because you attempted to draw the relationship, lets continue it. I would imagine most if not all of these young ladies on the basketball team drank underage, bought rap music that called white people racial epithets, or otherwise broke the law or acted immorally. So does that make it ok to say that we shouldn’t be sympathetic for them?
How bout “Rev.” Jesse Jackson. He came out and condemned these 3 guys, along with just about every other major Black organization in the country. They said Imus shouldnt keep his job because he used GOVERNMENT controlled airwaves to make the comment. What did Nifong do? What did Jesse Jackson do? Called these kids every type of name in the book. To call these kids privileged, etc is exactly the type of name calling this country has cried out against in the Rutgers case, except these kids are hated because they are wealthy, and white. They were called rich brats, hooligans, and any number of names. But it is okay because they are white?
When you make a comparison, draw it to its conclusion and make sure that is where you want your comment to go.

Posted by: JW | April 12, 2007, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

The media is complicit in all of this. Prosecutorial misconduct was so obvious in this case shortly after the indictments yet the media never really emphasized how wrong this all was. And further, why has the complainant never been publicly identified? Our Constitution says we all have a right to face our accusers. Laws against the media identifying accusers are, where they exist, unconstitutional. The media’s code in the regard should now be dropped. Mike Nifong is not the only culprit here. She and the media are too.

Posted by: Gary | April 12, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Many valid points made in these posts. Wouldn’t our world be a much nicer place if we could live with no ethnic or economic boundaries, and these boys, along with their accuser, were being judged by their ACTIONS as opposed to their ethnicity, social status and financial standing. I think many of these posts might read differently, as would Mr Moran’s article.
On another note, it sure would be nice to see people stand up and become accountable for their actions, good or bad, instead of constantly finding someone to blame (or sue) because “they can”. In my day, accountablity was a valued quality. It seems that although these boys were wrongly accused, I have not heard any reports of how sorry they were for the “party” that they were responsible for hosting when and where the incident occured. Perhaps the families are “suffering” not only because of the unjust charges that were rendered against these boys, but also because of the embarrassment that the “party” caused to the University, and their families. If not, wouldn’t these boys return to the fine University to finish their education? Is Nifong responsible for those actions also??
Yes, this has been a terrible representation of our Legal System, and as a tax paying US Citizen for more years than i care to admit, I for one am very frustrated at the amount of money that was spent to wrongly prosecute innocent men. Can i sue Mr Nifong too??
These young men will live with this forever, and to be wrongly accused is a very unfortunate error. However, for all that we complain that their “false guilt” was displayed in the media, and has cost one young man a job on wall street, and hurt their futures, i say this. as our media has very openly reported to us their alleged guilt, they have also vehemently expressed their innocence. I would think these future employers would ALSO see this information. As they apply for these prestigious positions, they must realize that not getting the job may not be a reflection of the false allegations, but perhaps in their behavior which first led to this entire incident
I just wish our world would drop the race card, and i mean that about ALL races.

Posted by: DR | April 12, 2007, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

It’s not a matter of feeling sorry for them, it’s a matter of expecting equal treatment at least. These young men were pronounced quilty immediately. The “racial/social-status hatred” poured out on them by some of the best at seeking the media attention, the Revs Abernathy and Jackson equaled anything that Imus said…but that’s another post. When will we see apologies from the Revs, from the Duke Facility who railed against them without a bit of proof.
But I forget, they are white, middle to upper-class males, they have no rights or recourse when slurred or insulted. They are fair game to everyone.

Posted by: mike | April 12, 2007, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

I completely agree with you Terry, and frankly, these boys are NOT completely innocent. I am appalled at their behavior that night….and I compel any reader (those that aren’t rapists and racists) who disagrees with you, how they would feel if these boys were their children and behaved the way they did. It is absolutely disgusting.
I hope that all of this will make these obviously “privileged” boys realize that they can’t get away with everything and learn to treat women with respect. Unfortunately I know these types well…if it didn’t happen this time, I am sure it will happen next time. Ask any rape crisis counselor…these boys are casebook.

Posted by: xyz | April 12, 2007, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Terry- I would bet money that you yourself have seen a stripper once in your life. It happens everywhere and in colleges across the country/world. Get over it. I don’t condone any racial slurs but none of us were at the party to know that actually happened. Of course, they were guilty of anything accused as were the other lacrosse team members by people like you before justice was allowed to take its course. I am a lacrosse player and fan and according to you,as such, I must be privileged. I have seen strippers in my life so I must be sexist. I went to a good school like Duke (on full scholarship) so I must be “elite”. I served in the Middle East so I must be a warmonger..all these labels I must be according to your discriminate view of people. Amazing how close minded you really are. I feel sorry for you…

Posted by: Mark | April 12, 2007, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Terry, your opinions lack consistency and depth of knowledge. We should feel sympathy for all who are wrongly accused, rich or poor and black or white. These boys have acknowledged how lucky they are to have had the resources to fight off a misguided DA and an opportunistic accuser (read article on CNN.com from the AP).
Terry, you pointed out that there are many poor Americans who do not have the resources to defend themselves like the Duke lacrosse players did. But how does that make them more deserving of our sympathy? Sympathy does not require that you be a minority and a destitute. Sympathy is merely feeling the emotions that others are going through and recognizing how their situation would make you feel. Finnerty, Seligman, and Evans are people who were wrongly accused and are worthy of our sympathy.
The bottom line: sympathy for the wrongly accused and condemnation for the false accuser.

Posted by: Ed | April 12, 2007, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Why would anyone NOT by sympathetic to these guys? Yes, the hiring of strippers is nothing to be proud of. Nevertheless, it is NOTHING compared to being accused of serious crimes, with long prison sentences hanging over their heads. They have endured a terrible year, one they will never forget or the one that the country will forget. Their names are imbedded in everyone’s psyche, forever, period. They deserve whatever sympathy comes their way.

Posted by: Amy | April 12, 2007, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Suggesting that these men deserved what they got is comparable to implying that a promiscuous woman deserved to be raped.

Posted by: olehk | April 12, 2007, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

FINALLY! I have 16 year old sons and I have tried to tell them that all of this STARTED with a phone call to a stripper and NOT ONE PERSON is taking responsibility for that action.
Try looking at those party pictures from the frat party. They were on the internet. These guys are not guilty of rape but they are not totally innocent either.

Posted by: twinboysmom | April 12, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Fire Terry Moran. He’s the sort
of nasty journalist who feeds our
current mood/mode of vindictiveness at all cost. And I guess he’s not in the echelons of privilege himself??

Posted by: kirkeby | April 12, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Here is a good example of opposite of Imus kind of rhetoric. The only difference here is you are trashing the white kids. If ABC thinks CBS and MSNBC were justified in taking the actions that were taken with Imus, they should do the same for Moran.

Posted by: KF | April 12, 2007, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Hiring striipers and behaving in that manner may or may not be immoral depending on your personal preference; however it certainly is NOT illegal. What happed to them cost them more then financial compensation can accont for. How about loosing an entire year of school; being set back that far back for nothing. AND to talk about finances, lawyers aren’t free, just because they can afford them is not an excuse to why they needed lawyers in the first place; bottom line, it cost them millions, and an entire year, for nothing; so yes, I do feel sorry for them, and i cannot believe ABCNEWS encourages your nonsence.

Posted by: STEVE | April 12, 2007, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

What a joke. Are you serious with this? How would you feel if it was your son? These kids almost spent the rest of their lives in prison becuase of one man’s misguided ambitions. Where they came from or what their parents do has nothing to do with it. Beyond that, if you actually think that going to see a stripper means that you deserve something like this you’re crazy, my bet is the vast majority of men in this country have seen one at some point or another, do they deserve the same?
Get a clue.

Posted by: Brian | April 12, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Shame on you Terry. Hope you and yours are never unjustly accused of a crime you didn’t commit. Guess if that did happen, I shouldn’t feel too sorry for you. You can afford good lawyers, right? I also bet that when you were a young man of college age you had a few wild nights yourself. You were just lucky enough to not meet up with a lunatic who ruined your life.

Posted by: akh | April 12, 2007, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

What complete nonsense. The Duke men were the victims. I know that this doesn’t fit your “liberal” sense of fairness but it is the truth. These men were falsely accused and persecuted and you think they don’t deserve to be cared for? Give me a break!

Posted by: Donald J. Dalphonse | April 12, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

There is a principle of law in this country, that one is presumed innocent until proved guilty in a court of law. These men were found guilty in the mind of a prosecutor, and were punished in the public press on no more authority than that personal “verdict”.
And now we see people like you, Terry, attempting to excuse this horrid wrong by pointing to the possibly-regrettable by still wholly LAWFUL behavior of the accused in hiring strippers for a team party. You are exchanging “guilty even though never tried” for “innocent but they really deserved it [wink, wink].”
SHAME ON YOU!!!
If we cannot stand up against unjust prosecutions and unjust prosecutors in a case like this, then we will NEVER stand up against such injustice in our land.

Posted by: Jordan | April 12, 2007, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

As a parent of a lacrosse player at a prestigous university, these 3 players were not the only ones affected by this travesty. Duke University’s reputation was also dragged through the mud, and all lacrosse players across the country were depicted as spoiled and privleged. The sport itself has taken a hit, and I at times feel the need to defend my son, just because he plays lacrosse.
Mr. Moran has his head in the sand. I do not condone the “boys will be boys” attitude, but the behavior exhibited by this team is a daily occurence at colleges across the country, right or wrong.
How familiar is Mr. Moran with all of the good these 3 boys, and the team in general have done? Do your research and present an informed case.

Posted by: Cindy | April 12, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

As someone posted earlier, most of these opinions, including Terry Moran’s, seem to come down to spite and envy. In other words, if you don’t have as much as these kids have, you hate them, predictably; if you do have as much, then it’s not an issue and you allow yourself to recognize that these kids were wronged. The Attorney General of the State of North Carolina personally declared them innocent, so there’s no question on this point. My question is this: since when did we as a nation get reduced down to such greedy, small-minded, and self-centered cavemen that we must begrudge others a little sympathy when it’s clearly deserved, just because of their economic status? Must we always check with the selfish part of the brain (the one that calculates whether someone has more or less than we do), before allowing ourselves to empathize with them? What a pathetic bunch of moral midgets we’ve become when every smidgeon of emotion we feel for others must first pass our own personal envy test! Fat chance anyone gets much sympathy these days!!! We only demean ourselves by constantly linking our sense of right and wrong to material standards. As Terry Moran’s views so aptly illustrate, the days of genuine moral integrity in this country, that is a sense of morality uncompromised by personal considerations, are long gone.

Posted by: Sam | April 12, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

“They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
Lol. I like how you worked that in there.
Your pseudo-bourgoisie indignation is also amusing.

Posted by: kevin | April 12, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

“…I have a dream that someday, a person will be judged by the content of his character rather than the color of his skin…” MLK
Judging from Mr. Moran’s article, I would guess that we are still a long way off. I am aghast that we have awoken from MLK’s dream to the nightmare of reverse racism. God help us!
C.M. Irwin

Posted by: C.M. Irwin | April 12, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Would everyone quit worrying about these young men’s reputations or future. “Mommy and Daddy” will make it all better for them. Things will work out just fine for these fortunate sons. . .
Posted by: Linda | Apr 12, 2007 1:15:05 PM
Let me ask you – if you and your son were in the same situation and you had the ability to make a situation better for him, would you not do it? Or, if these boys were a minority and the accuser was white and everything played out exactly as it did here – would you still have posted the same thing?

Posted by: MPC | April 12, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Your opinion is completely one sided Mr. Moran. Because of privilege it’s all right that they were villified?! WRONG!!! Let me tell you about the rutgers basketball team- I’m sure they are privileged in their own way getting athletic scholarships to pay their way through school! And I am sure they are quite comfortable for college students.
It was wrong for Mr Sharpton and Mr Jackson as well as Mr. Nifong to rush to judgement!!! Just as Imus was wrong to say those things about the Rutger’s womens’ basketball team.
If I were those boys I would sue Mr. Nifong, Mr Jackson, Mr Sharpton, and the University- they were clearly wronged!

Posted by: Kendrick | April 12, 2007, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

He misspelled his last name it has two o’s.
Don’t feel sorry for them because they’re white and rich? Great logic.
Mental note, Terry Moran is an idiot.

Posted by: Tee Duboios | April 12, 2007, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Where there is smoke there is fire. These clowns may have been falsely accused – and this is wrong – but they placed themselves in this predicament and I don’t feel sorry for them for one moment regardless if they are rich or poor.

Posted by: cris | April 12, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Is it Terry Moran or Terry MORON???? How have they men had praise heaped upon them? Luckily, their parents had the resources but I’ll also bet that the accuser probably WRECKED the retirement accounts of several parents. And while Mr. Nifong has immunity, he should be prosecuted for using this case for personal gain to get relected and the punishment should be he is disbarred and publicly humiliated just like these students were. Also, the victim/accuser should be sued and a judgement entered against her on the off chance she EVER makes anything of herself or somehow comes into a substantial windfall. Google her now that her name is public and you will see this is not the first time she has cried RAPE only to have nothing come of it!!!
Lastly, where is any mention of the praise that Messrs, or is it Reverands, Sharpton and Jackson heaped on the men when the story first came to light. And now that they have been declared innocent, I haven’t heard one word of apology, for their FALSE accusations and indignations, from either of these fine pillars of the community. That’s right, they don’t live here, they just fly in for TV face time.

Posted by: Keith | April 12, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Sure, Terry, you elitist jerk.
And I’m sure your Lawrence University was a poor kids’ school, just this side of Appalachia Community College.
I hope your son is never accused of rape.

Posted by: David Dalton | April 12, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

You stated in your second to last paragraph that the most important point of your article is that cases of prosecutorial misconduct goes unreported because the victims are poor or minority Americans–or both. Whose fault is that? The mainstream media.
The media coverage of the charges being dropped is nowhere near the intensity of the coverage of when the charges were filed. ANYONE who is faslely accused of a crime deserves every American’s sympathy!
There is nothing illegal about hiring strippers. If this is such a blight on your moral compass, you should do more to start a grass-roots campaign to outlaw the practice. Until the day that hiring a stripper becomes illegal, including this point in your argument against the “Dukies” is a waste of space.

Posted by: Duncan | April 12, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

You’re an idiot, Terry.

Posted by: KGC | April 12, 2007, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Liberal old ABC. Even when dead wrong and bearing a large responsibility for all this they don’t even have the decency to apologize.
That’s what this Moran piece really is, ABC justifying their rush to judgement by way of saying: Well, after all, the boys watched a stripper; thats ALMOST rape, right?

Posted by: Tom | April 12, 2007, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Wow! You get paid to write this illogical drivel??? Your thesis:If you’re white, privileged and sometimes behave inappropriately ie: drink, use profane or racially inappropriate language and hire a stripper (like thousands of college students –and adults– have been known to do), it’s no big deal to lose a year (395 days) of your life…to have your face and name the subject of countless newspaper/magazine articles and talk shows condeming you for something that did not occur. After all,many have suffered more,right, so why should sympathy or outrage be expressed for the lies of the accuser or the misconduct of the DA in this case?
Money can buy anything, right???
I imagine you are financially “comfortable”, Mr. Moran. What importance/value then would you personally assign to 395 days of similar treatment for you and your family?
Wow….

Posted by: Shirley | April 12, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

It is no surprised that racial tension still exists in today society. I guess the medias did a good job in bringing these tensions to the surface. Sadly to see that these young men are wrongly accused of something they did not commit. However, it made me wonder what compelled that young woman to make such accusation if it wasn’t for money or fame. Regardless, I do feel sympathy for the young woman and the 3 young men whose lives will possibly forever changed because of this horribly imaginative crime.

Posted by: Yvonne | April 12, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

I do not think that anyone can honestly say that the justice system on this countrey is fair and balanced. There is overwhelming evidence that it is not. And it is the poor and minorities who bear the brunt of it. Those young men are not heroes but they definitely got screwed. Perhaps their behavior was not beyond reproach, but that doesn’t mean they should pay for a crime they did not commit.
Funny though how Mr. Moran doesn’t mention this:
One of the players, Reade Seligmann, said his experience had opened his eyes to a “tragic world of injustice” that he never knew existed.
“If police officers and a district attorney can systematically railroad us with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I can’t imagine what they would do to people who do not have the resources to defend themselves.” Another of the players, Collin Finnerty, said he would use this experience to stop “this ever happening again”.

Posted by: Fabiola Thing | April 12, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Yup, I looked it up… M-O-R-O-N.

Posted by: KGreen | April 12, 2007, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

I so agree with Yvonne. Where are the apologies from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton? They were ready to hang these guys…they would expect an agology if the shoe was on the other foot. It’s all so one sided. When did it become a crime to come from a well off family? I say God bless the boys families for working hard and being in a position to be able to put their sons in a great school and pay for the best legal defense they could get. If they couldn’t afford the best lawyers I would expect that the boys outcome would have been very different. We were all ready to hang them.

Posted by: Reney | April 12, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

While it is true that many people are victims of prosecutorial misconduct, not everyone is drawn and quartered in the NATIONAL PRESS by a district attorney, by the media, by the public and by their university for a crime that they did not commit. From early on it was painfully obvious that there was no probably cause to believe that those boys did anything. Shame on the DA for putting personal gain ahead of his duty. Shame on Duke for putting PR considerations ahead of protecting its students. Shame on the public for quickly assuming the boys must have raped this woman because we love to hear when white, wealthy, smart people who seem to have it all get into trouble. Shame on the media for condemning these men as brutal rapists, treating this story as if it was a replay of the days of slavery.
Sure, the boys were at a party where alcohol was served and consumed by people under 21. 99.99% of college students do this every single weekend. Sure, there was a stripper at the party (and Seligmann wasn’t even there for that part of the party), but at least half of all American men have seen a stripper perform. There is no LOGICAL consequence that attending a party and watching a stripper should lead to the allegation of a brutal gang rape.
Further, Finnerty’s prior conviction has absolutely no bearing on this case. It would not be admissible evidence in a court of law.
The only thing these boys and the members of the lacrosse team are guilty of is being college boys. Do we have to like their behavior? No. But that also doesn’t mean that they do not deserve our sympathy for having their names dragged through the mud. For that we should have compassion and sympathy. Terry, I hope that you never have your name forever connected to a brutal gang rape.
Rather, we should focus on the fact that they are LUCKY to have supportive families and the resources to defend themselves from a DA who was out for blood. We should think about the fact that not everyone is lucky enough to have those fantastic resources rather than condemn them because they happen to be white, wealthy athletes at an elite university.

Posted by: LA | April 12, 2007, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

If the accused had not been able to hire private attorney’s, they could very well have been convicted.
Whatever poor judgement which the Duke students may may have shown that night does not justify the hassle that was brought upon them over the last year.
This editorial is just plain misguided hogwash.

Posted by: TB | April 12, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Posts like Terry’s above are what lead to angry white men feeling like they are victims of reverse racism. Not helpful.
When the accusations of rape first came out, angry people marched in the streets and wanted blood. Same thing when Imus made his stupid comment (although he is clearly not “innocent” on that one.)
It’s depressing to think that today if a victim is black that there is no hope for redemption for the white “accused”. They are toast. They must be eliminated and the details be damned.
It used to be the other way around although the result could be fatal for the black accused.
I hope one day we can be more thoughtful, deliberate and humane toward EVERYONE — rich/poor/black/brown/whatever.

Posted by: DoryO | April 12, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

All men are potential rapists in Terry’s world. Leprechauns and unicorns are also real in Terry’s world.

Posted by: Athelion | April 12, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Terry you are way off base here…I now know why I no longer watch ABC news and other ABC programs….with people like you and Rosie O’Donnell at that network!

Posted by: winnie g | April 12, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Well gee Terry, I think overpaid so-called “journalists” like yourself were certainly a huge contributing factor to these young men recieving such sensationalized press in the first place. So what if these guys hired strippers? Not exactly a practice ones pastor might approve of……but NOT illegal.
And two of the biggest fire-fuelers were those wannbe MLK and Malcolm X clowns named Sharpton and Jackson. Those two individuals are two of the most divisive, race-baiting, reverse-racists in the country.
These 3 young men were tried and convicted in the media without any facts whatsoever. As for your reference to the Rutgers girls………there is a BIG difference between being called a nasty name and being accused of a crime that could have landed these guys in prison for 30+ years.
Terry, Im’ pretty sure that you are well compensated by ABC, and that you personally would have a big advantage financially if you ever needed legal counsel……enough said. The state of North Carolina and the City of Durham should negotiate a speedy and generous settlement with these three young men for all they have had to endure.

Posted by: Scott | April 12, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Typical liberal presses. Imagine what Mr. Moran’s reaction would have been if these three Dukies’ were black instead of white, and the accuser was a white girl. The fact is, three people were falsely accused of rape, despite evidences against it, and the prosecutor, for political expediency, negligently went after them with clear malice. THAT IS WRONG.
It not like these boys were falsely accused of a misdemeanors. They were accused of RAPE. Imagine being accused of RAPE.
And so what if they are priviledge and had a stripper party. Is that illegal in the US?
Get over the racial issues people. If you claim to be colorblind, like all these liberal elitist are, then you cannot exclude the obvious, which is a clear perpertration of injustice on these innocent men.

Posted by: nguyen | April 12, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Your attempt at logic should be kept to a hobby.
So, you’re only telling the truth if you’re poor, or if you’re not poor, it doesn’t matter what happened? I’m sure glad you weren’t around when they wrote the Bill of Rights!

Posted by: Adele Conner | April 12, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

get a brain, moran.

Posted by: forrest | April 12, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

This is quite possibly one of the most moronic things I have seen written on this topic.

Posted by: Paul | April 12, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Your disgusting comments are no better than Imus’. His were racist and yours classist. You are both filled with hate and if he should be fired so should you.

Posted by: jef | April 12, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Ace of AoSHQ Blog is correct. This article by Terry ‘Moron’ is cryptomarxist twaddle.

Posted by: frank | April 12, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Hey MCFLY!! This is not a Racial issue!! Stop making it into one!

Posted by: Jerry | April 12, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Most people have said it well, so I’ll just pile on.
Most readers are obviously sick of the irony of privileged people like Terry Moran performing a beat down on people he considers privileged. Typical liberal do-as-I-say…
Terry, did you read what you wrote or are you just a faucet of illogical nonsense? As so many people have written, if YOU were wrongly accused of a crime, your words would be different. That’s hypocrisy.

Posted by: Bob Fritz | April 12, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

FYI, Terry, being rich, privileged and white is not illegal. Making false accusations based on race and economic status is.

Posted by: Mark | April 12, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Terry, I once had a modicum of appreciation, however those days are over – your obvious play towards class/race baiting is truly pathetic – a point of perspective – Rutgers women are called a name by a known bigot whose social influence is marginal at best while three completely innocent men are forced to fight for their lives against a prosecutor who consciously hid evidence which would have exculpated them? Are you serious? As one of the defendents attorneys said yesterday, pray you never find yourself in the positon these guys found themselves, convicted of a crime you never did (the evidence is utterly overwhelming) with posters with your face on them posted all over your college campus labeling you a rapist – with faculty members of your school, some of whom you’d studied under placing advertisments in the campus newspaper clamoring for your conviction, holding you up as an example of all that is wrong with college athletics (remember you’re innocent btw). And what’s with the class hatred Terry? Geez, get over it – I grew up in Newark NJ, in the housing projects, and I know all about being on the wrong side of the tracks and I am outraged at what these poor guys went thru – a miscarrage of justice is a miscarrage of justice – or should we let these “white” guys fry to satisy the vengful dreams of extremists who say it’s fair since so many poor blacks get beaten over the head by the system. As other posters have said Terry, pray someone you love never has to endure such treatment – I also will NEVER tune into ABC news again if this is what passes for ‘honest debate’ at the alphabet network.
Paul, Essex County, NJ

Posted by: paulserr | April 12, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

The reason the press doesn’t focus “on these (minority) victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors” is because the press doesn’t focus on black offenders. When a black commits a violent crime, the press could care less.
But let a white commit a violent crime against a black victim, and the press jumps all over it.
They did this in the Duke case, but it blew up on them when it became a case of prosecutorial misconduct.
With black offenders, the press never covered it in the first place, so they aren’t around if it turns out to be a case of prosecutorial misconduct.
Also. Who was punished more; the one who insulted the Rutgers ballplayers, or the one who falsely accused three Duke lacrosse guys of a 30 year felony?

Posted by: Tom | April 12, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

I just can’t believe you’re writing something like this now that the truth about the Duke Lacrosse Rape Hoax has come out.
“They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.”
What’s your point? It’s not illegal to hire a stripper. It *is* illegal to lie a Grand Jury about being raped and withhold evidence from the defense, which Crystal Gail Mangum and Mike Nifong did do.
“Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.”
Nothing wrong with wanting to see at least one stripper you find physically attractive. Funny how the Duke rape pot-bangers were claiming the Duke players specifically requested a *black* stripper so they could rape a black woman.
“During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.”
Possibly, but reports are the strippers also used racial slurs against the white guys at the party. I guess black on white racism doesn’t count.
“Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.”
True but that doesn’t make him guilty of rape.
“The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.”
Good for them. They needed it to fight off a corrupt DA and a system that was biased against non-poor white males.

Posted by: Dave | April 12, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Are you insane???? Don’t feel too sorry for these young men??? Yes there is a LOT of injustice in this world but because they are white and privileged does NOT give you the right to continue to tarnish their reputation.
These 3 young men went through over a year of agony but these falsehoods, which the media were more than happy to convict these young men before the judge & jury.
How dare you say such a thing. This is just incomprehensible, and you wonder why some people don’t trust the “MSM”!

Posted by: Debbie | April 12, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Both Nifong and the anonymous false accuser should each serve at least 5 years in prison.

Posted by: gary | April 12, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

I love the angry feminists here who make the claim…”well, they hired a stripper, so they deserve it”. The complete hypocrisy of not understanding that’s the exact same excuse men used to use for rape…”well, she was drinking, and scantily clad, so…” I’ve learned a lot about hatred and sexism from these feminists. Lately, I’ve learned a lot about hatred and racism from Al, Jesse, and the New Black Panthers. Sadly Terry, I’m learning a lot about class hatred from you “kind-hearted” elitist liberals.

Posted by: James | April 12, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Thanks for reinforcing for me why I never watch the MSM. Ever. I will now expand this to never going to Disneyland – I live in Southern Cal – and will have to now give up watching ESPN. Thank God for the Internet. Oh, and I will be staying away from all of ABCs sponsors.
It’s little men like you, and networks like yours, who continue to divide this great country.
Disrespectfully yours,

Posted by: Rabril | April 12, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

As an attorney, a member of an “elite community” and having been giving all the opportunities in the world by a family with the resources to do so, I praised Mr. Moran’s opinion piece here, it too guts to say it. Where are all the stories investigating the thousands of minority and underprivileged victims of prosecutorial abuse? Lesson learned in this culturally backward society where pretty is good and otherwise is ignored, if you have money or good looks, you get to play victim. I say the founding fathers intended on our justice system to protect the weak and to guard against prosecutorial abuse. The system worked for these boys. Lets make sure it works for the rest of society.

Posted by: Michael L. Rowady | April 12, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Hey, as long as they’re white males and “privileged,” they deserve whatever they get, right, Terry?
What if they had been wealthy black males accused by a poor white girl? Would you have written this same piece? Or would you have written that justice had been served?
These men were falsely accused of a crime that they didn’t commit, a crime that NEVER HAPPENED.
Being called a name by a dumb radio host is nowhere the equal of being falsely accused of a horrible crime, regardless of their background!
Sheesh. And you journalists think the media isn’t biased towards the left and against anyone white.

Posted by: Big Mo | April 12, 2007, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

Mr. Moran, you are a liar. These young men were not “well-heeled.” They come from average families and are nowhere near as rich as you and your fellow elitist snobs at ABCNEWS. They deserve sympathy and respect. The women basketball players of Rutgers were verbally insulted by a fool. Boo-hoo-hoo.

Posted by: John | April 12, 2007, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

Don’t you get it? They suffered this false prosecution BECAUSE they were white, “privileged”, successful university athletes from out of town. There was never ANY evidence and they were prosecuted only because they were the perfect defendants for Mike Nifong to pander to Durham’s racial division.

Posted by: Locomotive Breath | April 12, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

This is the reason that network news is in the toilet as far as ratings go. What a piece of bull pucky this is. The guys were innocent of what they were changed with, period. It is legal to hire women of ill repute to strip no crime there. So they are guilty of being from families with means? I guess the same applies to your children Mr Moran and they should just confess now to their white guilt. Your last name surely fits you! Moron!

Posted by: chris b | April 12, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Terry. You are SICK

Posted by: Dennis | April 12, 2007, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Being a North Carolinian and being a part of a Blue Devil family, your assertions are way off base. Do you realize it takes a whole lot more then just a big checking account to get into that school? Do you even realize what it takes to be considered for just a few slots over the many thousands that apply each year? There is a reason why Duke University is so prestigous. Yes, the Board of Trustee’s and some staff members at Duke are gravely at fault for how they handled this situation. My opinion is, they too need to be held accountable for their actions. They did not deserve to be treated in the manner in which they were by the school,their peers or that community. Too assume that just because those 3 men went to a such a university does not make them criminals or less deserving of justice. Yes, they had resources available to them that allowed them to acquire the best defense team such as they did. Having had to deal with the Barney Fife legal system in the small town I live in before, it can be done without being wealthy. Ignorance is not a defense and neither is background. Our justice system in this country needs alot of work, starting with local law enforcement on up. These men got exactly what they deserved..THE TRUTH AND JUSTICE!!

Posted by: Caroline, North Carolina | April 12, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

You make my head hurt. Which of the three accused hurled the racial epithets? You know who it was. Why not tell your readers? How about I just guess at your reasons since you like guessing games.

Posted by: Sue | April 12, 2007, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Yeah, don’t feel too sorry for the kids who got kicked off their sports team, lost their scholarships to a $30,000/year school, had to spend 15 months under the media spotlight, and had their lives change forever by a bogus rape charge. Are you serious?

Posted by: Nathan | April 12, 2007, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Thank you Terry for confirming my pre-existing view of your reporting. To somehow justify blatant prosecutorial misconduct on the fact that these men come from a well-to-do background only shows your classism and sexism. I would expect a legal affairs correspondent to look beyond one’s biases and view cases on their merit or lack thereof.

Posted by: steve c | April 12, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Terry Mor0n

Posted by: OilGuzzler | April 12, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

RIGHT ON TREVOR!!!
That again is my point about liberal “justice,” namely, it’s only for the marginalized of their choosing. Again, the sooner we get rid of this “black people are poor and victims” and “white people are rich and victimizers” rhetoric, the sooner I think we can all respect each other and fight for true justice where evil is punished, truth preserved, and innocence protected.
A word to the Liberals: Take note, social justice is not served by political ideologies and agendas, but by fighting for the truth in all cases, even when the facts go against your advocacy groups..
Wake up America!

Posted by: JJ | April 12, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

An injustice was done and Moron gives us his reaoning which basically is ‘I am for poor black underpriveledeged victims and these boys are just rich kids who are probably racist anyway. Morons lack of knowing anything about journalism 101 stems from the fact that he likes being biased especially professionally. I think they need another co anchor on the View…

Posted by: F. Brown | April 12, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

I’ve been at rougher parties with uglier strippers while in the Army… in uniform … and no children of the privileged were in attendance as far as I could tell.

Posted by: Richard | April 12, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

As one respondent said – Injustice is Injustice. The defendants were accused, found innocent, and their accuser discredited by numerous DNA tests on the night of the “party”. While I don’t condone such behavior myself, if it was your child you would want the responsible parties to pay. In this case, it is the stripper and the prosecutor. And by the way, what does requesting a white stripper have to do with anything here?

Posted by: matt | April 12, 2007, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

You write like an affected college kid.
By the way, were you ever in the presence of a stripper in college?
I liked how you slimed Finnerty, that was out of the blue.

Posted by: benrand | April 12, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Terry Moran or Terry Moron?

Posted by: elvisnixon | April 12, 2007, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

“Mike Nifong… has been found to have been reckless and deceitful in the discharge of his duties… Based on the public record of what he did in this case, he may well be properly disbarred.”
and
“The accuser in this case has been shown to be either a vicious liar or a troubled fantasist.”
Terry Moron’s own words. He admits that the accusations were totally bogus. He admits that the prosecution was a railroad job.
But we are supposed to still hold the lacrosse guys in contempt because they came from wealthy backgrounds.
Wait, there’s more:
(My Comments in parentheses)
“…let us also remember a few other things”:
“They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.” (So What? It’s a free country)
Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper. (Which proves exactly what?)
During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers. (Or so says Crystal Mangum, the accuser. Can we believe anything she says?)
Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.
(Totally irrelevant to whether or not he commited the rape)
The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists. (What? Are they supposed to voluntarily accept the services of the public defender? Are they supposed to apologize for being able to afford good legal representation?)
Terry, your argument is incoherent. It is a unrelated, unorganized pile of class envy. I am familiar with logical fallacies, but I don’t remember ever seeing them all in one place before.
Terry Moran is a snide, self-satisfied, condescending, upper-west side smartass. He can dish it out but cannot take it. Can you imagine what would happen if Mr. Moran was wrongly accused of a crime? My god, we’d never hear the end of it. In fact, someone ought to put this theory to the test. Someone ought to accuse him of something. Then just watch how fast ol’ Terry gets himself all lawyered up with someone like Mark Geragos. I mean, he deserves it, right? He’s rich. He’s Famous. He’ll do all right. In fact, I quote Mr Moran himself:
…these young men will get on with their privileged lives. There is a very large cushion under them–the one that softens the blows of life for most of those who go to Duke or similar places, and have connections through family, friends and school to all kinds of prospects for success.”
Sort of like a correspondent for ABC News?
Terry Moran…
You stink!

Posted by: william | April 12, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

WHAT DO WE EXPECT FROM A JOURNALIST? IT’S NOT ETHICS AND LOGIC ARE THE PILLARS OF GOOD JOURNALISM THESE DAYS. SENSATIONALISM AND POLITIKING ARE THE REAL CORE VALUES.
What amazes me is how sloppy news writers have become. I was watching the videos of the events in this case and then i read reports on the website and it was unbelievable how many times people were misquoted. Example Reade Seligmann said that he was under a “dark cloud of *in*justice” but was quoted as saying a “dark could of justice”. If they can’t even hit replay on a tape to get the quote right, how in the world can they actually report the facts. Talk about rush to report…
I hope these kids get richer and richer so they can buy out ABCnews and appoint intelligent journalists who are motivated by integrity rather than sensationalism.

Posted by: JJ | April 12, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

This is sickening.
Oh please. Everyone, including you, Mr. Moran, get over your liberal selves. If Hillary Clinton was wrongly accused of a crime, you’d want the head of the prosecutor on a silver plate and have the execution of that prosecutor televised.
These kids were wrongly accused of a serious crime, and were part of a media frenzy that would leave anybody, rich or poor, embarrassed.
And do you know the status, financial, academic, and scholarship status of each and every player on the Rutger’s team? I think not. Those women have a bright future ahead of them – the WNBA for some- where they’ll make millions and be as or MORE well off as the three that were WRONGLY (do I need to repeat WRONGLY) accused of rape.
Hypocrite. You make me SICK. You’re a well off, white, affluent and influential man – you have the same qualities as the boys you are arguing against.
By the way, these kids came from families whose financial status is below that of yours, Mr. ABC.
Go join Rosie on the View. You can come to your liberal conclusions together and annoy the country together.
You’d be the first to complain of how racism is still a problem in this country. Well, Mr. Moron, racism is a problem because of bias, ignorant articles like this piece of rubbish are published.

Posted by: Eric | April 12, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

So, if they didn’t have money, they’d been tried and in jail — an indictment of the system, not the kids.
Anyway, as you imply, they’re guilty of something, aren’t they?

Posted by: John Moore | April 12, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Just go ahead and drop the “a” in your last name and replace it with an “o,” Mr. Moron.

Posted by: LeDiezel | April 12, 2007, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Terry,
The day I read a piece from you about the damaging and demoralizing effects of pornography and stripping is the day I’ll take you seriously when you complain that these boys are bad and therefore beyond our sympathy because they got strippers.

Posted by: JJ | April 12, 2007, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

I think that most of you are missing the point of the article and also perhaps in the future most of you should temper your angry responses by first reflecting on what he actually wrote. This could help you avoid childish, inflammatory and in many cases useless postings. Making fun of his name is about and childish, stupid, and useless as it gets.
First of all Mr. Moran reiterates that DA Mike Nifong was totally in the wrong. He then clearly states that the accuser was either a “vicious liar or a troubled fantasist.” And finally he ends with the position that the “young men…were victimized.” Isn’t that what the rest of us feel? So I ask why all the hateful responses?
There are three points to this article and all are addressed specifically to the media covering the story and not necessarily to the general public. If you don’t think so please read the second to last paragraph again.
The first point is: Don’t beatify these individuals in your media coverage because doing so really detracts from the true problems in the system. Pick someone more deserving such as James Giles (although not a saint in his own right) if you truly want to make a statement and not just get better ratings.
The second point can be summed up by recounting what their dad’s probably told them when the moms left the room. “Son I am glad this is over and I am certainly glad that you are innocent. I love you very much… but you were an IDIOT for being at that party in the first place! You should have known better and I hope that the lesson you learned, albeit way too harsh, will stick with you the next time you and your friends come up with such an asinine idea.
The third point, a bit cynically put for my taste, was that although they were victims they will recover because they have resources to do so. Sympathy for these Duke Lacrosse players isn’t totally misguided but the vast amount of sympathy would be more appropriately directed to those who are also victimized AND do not have a way to recover.
Perhaps we would understand Mr. Moran’s view if we looked at what he is referring to when he mentioned James Giles or the other victims of prosecutor misconduct. Also do any of you know for what he won the Thurgood Marshall Journalism Award? It obviously doesn’t mean he is above reproach but perhaps it does mean we should all take a step back and take a hard look at all the facts before writing a response next time.

Posted by: Colby | April 12, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Terry,
You are of the lamest reporters around. Just because these boys are white and go to Duke you think they had it easier than the Rutgers ladies.
It’s no wonder this nation is in such peril. You are dangerous in your thoughts and unfortunately you have been given a public podium from which to spew your diatribes.
Help us all if someone like you really takes hold. OOPS, too late.

Posted by: SCS | April 12, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Just a picture perfect example of what is wrong with people in the media today that are suppose to reporting the facts and truth to the people. I had to read this twice because I could not believe your comments here.
What was the main problem for these young people falsely charge? Why, you Mr. Moran and everyone else in the Media who decided this was front page news for a year. It is YOUR fault these poor students are going to be scared for life.
You and ever other media organziation out there should be doing a front page apology, but instead it seems you want to blow it off and make it seem not as bad as what happened to the Rutgers University women’s basketball team. Unbelieveable.
Thank you for this nice write up that shows exactly what is wrong with the Media today.
It is too bad these students can’t sue you and every other media organization out there that dragged them though this.

Posted by: Jeff | April 12, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

No pity for these Duke players. Against all odds these wealthy, frat brothers with distinquished backgrounds managed to make utter fools of themselves, their team, their college and their parents.

Posted by: Dee Niece | April 12, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Don’t feel too sorry for them because they can afford their legal bills? That’s like telling people not to feel too sorry for Elizabeth Edwards because she can afford to pay her healthcare bills. Which is, if you haven’t realized already, a completely ridiculous and heartless thing to say.

Posted by: Paul Poslusky | April 12, 2007, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

To NaDine. Don’t you think playing the poor pittiful race card here is a little bit much???????? How in the world can you put a parallel on this? Oh, by the way, I am a British-American man. I can explaine that right after someone can explain to me where in America Africa is.

Posted by: Charlie | April 12, 2007, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Now let me see…three young men, from privileged families, hired strippers for a party and was accused of raping the African American woman, not in the same room, but in another location. And because there is no evidence(???)they were exonerated, received an apology and may be able to receive a settlement?
Hmmm…..interesting.

Posted by: buttons | April 12, 2007, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Gee, why would it appear “unseemly” to you, Terry? Would it be unseemly were their an outpouring of sympathy for falsely accused African-Americans?

Posted by: Robert | April 12, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Good lord. We shouldn’t feel sorry for three young men who were falsely accused of rape because they have a SUPPORT SYSTEM? What. Ever. They could have gone to jail for years. Some people will always believe they are guilty, regardless of the fact that there is no evidence. They lost a year of their lives to this crap and likely piled up some impressive legal bills.
So no, I am not going to be feeling worse for the Rutgers team than I am for the Duke players, sorry. Don Imus said a stupid, prejudiced thing and got booted out on his butt in two weeks. I believe those women will be JUST FINE, thanks.

Posted by: kate | April 12, 2007, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Gee, I guess we should punish all the rich people in this country just because they are successful. Send them to jail, even though they are innocent or they have bad behavior (even though it is legal).
Give me a break Mr. Moran. Now we truly know how the liberal media feels about people with wealth. If you column reflects the values of your employer, saying the media is leftist and biased is true.

Posted by: ms | April 12, 2007, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Moran, I am having a difficult time summoning words that sufficiently convey my contempt for you.

Posted by: drjohn | April 12, 2007, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Thank God these boys had the $$$$ to beat these false accusations. God Bless the wealthy. And go Duke Lacrosse.

Posted by: sm | April 12, 2007, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Terry, are you paid to say stupid things?

Posted by: Jeffersonian | April 12, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Terry, From now on, I will cease calling you a journalist. You are a quack.
I am not dealing with morality here; I am dealing with legalities.
From now on, whenever I see you on tv, I will turn the channel.
You seem to be a narrow headed guy.

Posted by: waralan | April 12, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Here is what is most troubling…the fact that all of the “misconduct” you talk of is ok. I personally have been through what these guys have and did not have the money or publicity to get mine tossed out so easily. Fortunately I had a great attorney that was able to resolve the matter for me in a fair manner after the judge acknowledge the lack of investigation by the police AND the DA on the power trip. Mr Moran…what is troubling is that this is ok to you and others in the media…i think this truly shows our legal system is a JOKE and needs and overhaul as it is not about truth but a GAME to attorneys playing with peoples lives!!!! Get a clue…I hope some day for your sake some money hungry girl does not come after you with a false story…then maybe your outlook may change??

Posted by: Daren | April 12, 2007, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

This is possibly the most inane thing I’ve seen on the internet since the father/son jerks who tried to sue Tigger at DisneyWorld for “attacking” the son.
Thanks for writing it, Terry! My opinion of you is lower than what I felt for those hustlers. You really come off as , well, more incredibly ridiculous to the point where one might feel pity rather than anger.

Posted by: Mark | April 12, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

I can’t understand the severe emotional distress the girls have supposedly gone through. Watching 5-10 minutes of MTV is more degrading to young women than anything Imus said. If the comments of a talk radio guy none of them had ever heard of before was enough to ruin their season, then they’re in for a rude awakening when they leave school. The gnashing of teeth and wailing is totally out of proportion here.
I don’t care how privileged the Duke guys are, not many people can get stuck with millions in legal fees and brush it off. “Just sell some Halliburton shares, daddy, and get me another margarita while you’re at it”. Good lord, Moran, are you that hungry for class warfare?

Posted by: Joe Melnick | April 12, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

I am at a loss for words as to why you make the utterly stupid comments you did. Their race or financial status has nothing to do with what has happened here. You are not taking into account the accusers race or financial status at a motive are you? Let explore that shall we?? And its beyond just 3 boys getting falsely getting accused. Its about the media, liberial or conservitive, rushing to the SOUTH and projecting sterotypes onto the national airwaves to perpetuate the same old story. When it did not pan out, all just sulked away, looking for the next big sensation. You, Mr. Moran, are the problem, not the part of the solution. Here is a news flash, NOT everyone in the south is racist or sexist. Most of us want to move on (have moved on) and let go of the past. Most of us, regardless of race, creed, or sex, want to succeed, make more money and achieve the American dream, to be rich, which by the way, YOU HAVE! And I am sure on your daddys coat tails! I am appalled that ABC lets you air this sterotypical stupidity. I will be sure to turn the channel whenever you are on. Please keep reporting to your fan base “the symbol minded” I will look for eleswhere for real reporting.

Posted by: SLM | April 13, 2007, 12:14 am 12:14 am

You’re not much, are you, Terry.

Posted by: Forepace | April 13, 2007, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Mr. Moran,
Your editorial was so illogical I think I lost 20 IQ points reading it. Is your work reviewed before it’s published? Please tell me you justed posted this monument to foolishness without supervisory approval.

Posted by: KF | April 13, 2007, 12:58 am 12:58 am

i agree, just because these men had their parents’ resources to endure all this, does not mean that they deserve all this attention nor sympathy, much worse happens to those of us less fortunate socioeconomically but no one really pays attention…it’s life! By paying attention and wasting our time on these losers who do not even know how to take care of their personal lives, you continue to fuel this childish, discriminative culture within our country
on the other hand, what kind of future leaders are these elite schools helping to bring up anyway? think about it…racial slurs, demeaning women, what is on the minds of the elite? already in colleges where moral values are supposedly strongly upheld and still have not reached at least some level of maturity, truth be told they do not even seems mature enough to build meaningful relationships, seeking fake(bought) attention from strippers …when do you think that is going to happen? when they become presidents…like Bush…I highly doubt it!!!

Posted by: andrey | April 13, 2007, 1:19 am 1:19 am

They aren’t THAT “rich”, very few people in this country are “rich” enough to incure millions of dollars of legal fees and slander. They are scholarship players and only one of them is “rich”(the other 2′s parents make slightly above average salaries). Oh and since when do we punish people for making good livings? Put that financial burden on yourself and ask yourself if you are “rich” enough.

Posted by: barry | April 13, 2007, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Does ‘The View’ have an opening or something? You are starting to sound as ignorant as Rosie O. Are you now the morality police for the rest of us. Did you just so happen to overlook the evidence, or rather lack of ANY, before youimplied that these boys somehow DESERVED what happened to them based on actions YOU see improper(ie drinking in college, having parties etc..). Also, if your such a stickler for past cases involving the innocent wouldn’t it make sense that you would also champion these kids as survivors of the legal misconduct of those elected officials involved? I’ve wasted enough of my time with a idiot like yourself and a “NEWS”, ha now that’s funny, a news source like ABC. God forbid something like this happens to someone you love, you might just chcange your stance. Until then I can only hope.

Posted by: brian | April 13, 2007, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Don’t feel too sorry for Terry Moran.
Regardless of what misfortune may befall this man, he’s obviously an obtuse jerk with a cushy job that doesn’t require much thought.
Oh, unlike the Rutgers girls, who were defended from slanderous attacks from day 1 and not looking at 25 years in jail… sorry, I think that comparison fell apart on me there.
How did you compare those two again Terry? Oh, dishonestly and avoiding any relevance to the stories. Good job, I wish I could make up crud like that.

Posted by: Gekkobear | April 13, 2007, 2:12 am 2:12 am

There is a good chance that these three Dukies may have been “scared straight” by their unhappy run-in with the law. If so, then it will have been one of the most beneficial experiences of their lives. Painful, yes, but not nearly as painful as the awful times suffered by other wild young people who actually spent years in prison for crimes of which they were or were not guilty. Their parents were not able or willing to discipline them and set a good example for them, so the legal system attempted to fulfill it’s mandate by doing what little it could (by nefarious means, as it turns out) to fill-in for the parent’s glaring inadequacies. If they take it as the blessing in disguise that it truly was, these young fellows will one day look back on this experience as the fearful trauma that turned them around and set them on the right path in life. If not, then they might easily become bitter and sulk the rest of their lives away in miserable self-pity. We hope for the former, but, given the obviously poor level of parenting, one fears the latter is more likely.

Posted by: Colin Cody | April 13, 2007, 2:41 am 2:41 am

Terry Moran has a completely wrong and wacko spin on this story. Is there some way journalism can be improved?

Posted by: Dapro | April 13, 2007, 4:47 am 4:47 am

In fact Terry, this would me a much more appropriate statement to make, after your profession’s performance on this case.

Posted by: Schmoe | April 13, 2007, 6:06 am 6:06 am

Book deals for everyone! And oh, about those television & movie rights…
Just more societal mendacity!

Posted by: Steve M | April 13, 2007, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Most of you people are crazy! Not only were these guys cleared (and rightfully so), but they will be far, far better off than they were before, or would have been had this not happened! I sense book and movie deals coming, along with even more and better job offers than they would have had before because everyone feels so sorry for them. The accuser has actually done them a huge favor and set them up for untold wealth and success. Save your tears for those who can’t afford a “dream team” and end up doing time for crimes they didn’t commit. Oh, wait, I forgot; those people are usually poor and/or minorities; they don’t matter!

Posted by: jstephen | April 13, 2007, 8:06 am 8:06 am

I am not surprised by the hypocrisy of Moran and the other liberals on this board. It is still disgusting.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Terry, the three young men said all this…already. They apologized for the party. They stated their understanding that their parents’ hard work afforded them the ability to defend themselves against these charges…legal charges and pitiful efforts by the media to have them hung based on no evidence whatsoever. They also stated a vow to work to help others less fortunate when faced with similar situations. They wrote your article. Go back to sleep.

Posted by: Don | April 13, 2007, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Are you serious? You should be fired from ABC for your comments. This is incredible. By the way can you prove they used racial slurs? Also is it illegal to hire strippers? It may be immoral but is it illegal? And what they heck does it matter that they asked for a white stripper?
You sir should be ashamed of yourselve and should issue an apology and privately meet with the Duke lacrosse players.

Posted by: Dan Roberts | April 13, 2007, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Terry did you think before you wrote this?
Maybe we should only feel sorry for poor people who are subject to injustice. After all if you are falsely accused of rape and tried in the media across the country you can go to the mall and buy some nice stuff to make up for it.
Very thoughtless column.

Posted by: Digusted Reader | April 13, 2007, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Please explain to me what their other actions have to do with the accusations of rape? They didn’t rape the girl, period. Therefore, they are innocent. Are you suggesting that if I steal something, say from Wal-Mart, and am subsequently wrongly accused of rape, I should then be convicted of rape because I stole something? Or that people shouldn’t sympathize with my situation and help me?

Posted by: C | April 13, 2007, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Well said, sir. It’s much easier to side with the accused, because all they ask you to do is do nothing. Believing the rape survivor requires challenging our belief in a just world, and denying that 1 out of every 4 women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime.

Posted by: joe | April 13, 2007, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Don’t feel sorry for them… are you kidding? Who is going to pay their legal expenses. Doctors commit malpractice and sometimes people die; by that line of thinking I suppose we should just exept that too!

Posted by: Doug Elliott | April 13, 2007, 9:43 am 9:43 am

What a joke. The only reason they had the “special treatment” and expensive lawers was becasue the media prosecuted them and declared them guilty. How funny that ABC practically declares them guilty and then finds out that tey are totally innocent, but still insists tht they are being treated with special gloves. ABC is just covering their butt for the horrible injustice that they did by attempting to show that prosecutorial misconduct isnt something that one should worry about if you have a fancy lawyer to prove your case…

Posted by: pd | April 13, 2007, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Most of these responses state it better than I can. I will say that your statements are very ignorant and would lead someone to the conclusion that you are also incapable of coherent thought on this subject. If I were your bosses, I would fire you for such a bad article.

Posted by: Brad | April 13, 2007, 9:43 am 9:43 am

You should be fired like Imus.

Posted by: I can't believe this | April 13, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Did Al and Jesse help you write this?

Posted by: Rotkev | April 13, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am

You are a complete idiot! Have you heard of innocent until proven guilty? Funny, the liberal media is always so quick to convict on the sole basis of an accusation from a minority. Al not-so “sharp” Sharpton, the “not-so” and “cheater” Rev. Jackson and you should apologize to the Duke players. Similar, to what you and the aforementioned clowns demanded from Imus. Don’t talk out of both sides of your mouth. Again, you are a liberal moron.

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am

This article is ignorant and offesive for those who are inoccent. False crimes are never “worth it” for either the rich nor the poor.

Posted by: Tex | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

You, sir, should be ashamed of yourself for these comments.
And, please don’t tell me that there exists no liberal bias in the mainstream media. Shame on you, sir.

Posted by: Sriraj | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Terry, your last name says it all – MORON!

Posted by: Roager Niemeier | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

you are a complete moron; another shining example of the liberal bias maintained by the mainstream press-how someone as you can gain employment says it all about the motives of firms such as ABC

Posted by: bill fritz | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Outrageous.
Their families spent millions, their lives interrupted and twisted beyond counting. I hope they recover 100 times what they spent in legal fees, and Nifong loses everything down to his last pair of underwear. He should spend the rest of his life working the Taco Bell drive through.
By the way, you’re an idiot.

Posted by: Mark Peery | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

This is why I turn ABC, CBS, and NBC off.
They are 100% in the tank with the lunatics.

Posted by: mark | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

What a hypocrite. Coming from a guy who graduated from a university where the current tuition is closing in on $40,000 (Lawrence University in Wisconsin), he has the nerve to talk about these guys going to an elitist school and having the means to have good lawyers. Looking at your educational background, seems like you went to a rather elitist school that many other people could never hope to afford. Are you feeling guilty about that Mr. Moran or just hoping no one would see through your hypocrisy?

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Wow. We aren’t going anywhere as a culture, are we? This whole column boils down to, “They’re rich white boys. They deserve it.”

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

So much for non-biased reporting. By the way Terry, how did you spend your collage years?. Now I know why “mainstream” news is losing more viewers every day.

Posted by: terry | April 13, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am

This is the kind of drivel that makes the majority of Americans hate and distrust the “main stream” press. These guys are just lazy and stupid.

Posted by: charles cox | April 13, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am

They were accused of RAPE. It was a lie. That is just wrong.
Also, if Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton had not gotten involved it wouldn’t have received so much press and become a white/black thing. You and Al Roker must have gone to the same school of journalism.

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Moran is a moron! You should be fired, not unlike Imus!! Wow, this is truely amazing to see such absurd support for injustice as a whole. Moran = Imus; name him and shame him.

Posted by: Andrew Coleman | April 13, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Terry, you need help.

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Is that Moran or MORON?

Posted by: bryan | April 13, 2007, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Schmoe, watch and see how much of a boon it is!

Posted by: jstephen1 | April 13, 2007, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Way to throw those stones. Wow. This is how disconnected with reality reporters are these days. What a loser.

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Another Liberal ABC News idiot.

Posted by: Casey | April 13, 2007, 9:48 am 9:48 am

What is the matter with requesting at least one white stripper? Would you be equally offended if they had requested at least one blonde stripper? What if they had insisted on having two redheads? There is nothing wrong with requesting that specific parameters be met when you are paying for a good or service. In fact, if their preference was for white strippers, it seems to me that asking for “At least one white stripper” is likely a concession designed to avoid the assumption that they were racist.
Hiring strippers is a seamy sort of endeavor. Let’s not pretend that it is also a hateful one.

Posted by: Fan of Free Choice | April 13, 2007, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Does ABC actually pay you to write this kind of convoluted logic?
I hope that you’re never on a jury in a case where someone is falsely accused. You might allow injustice to blind you.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 9:49 am 9:49 am

That is just an absurd point of view, in every way.

Posted by: Andrew | April 13, 2007, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Sickening.

Posted by: Michael R Sheffield | April 13, 2007, 9:50 am 9:50 am

You’re an idiot. Seriously Terry, go back into your hole.

Posted by: Darren | April 13, 2007, 9:50 am 9:50 am

So by your logic, everyone that hires a stripper deserves to be wrongly accused of rape. That really does make sense!
Everyone — please do not lump these moronic comments in with liberals. I lean to the left, but in no way could I agree with these comments.

Posted by: Rose Evie | April 13, 2007, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Wow – Saint Terry. If things had gone the other way for these three I doubt that Moran would be trying to paint them as have a good side.

Posted by: Larry M | April 13, 2007, 9:51 am 9:51 am

So apperently the Disney corporation, your parent company, feels that racist, and classist remarks are what makes a good journalist.
I never pictured Micky Mouse as an instigator.
The only difference between you Mr. Moran and the common 14 year old blogger is that the 14 year old has more sense. Great job getting on Drudge. By the way, you’re affluent and white.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Will Terry have the nerve to defend himself? I doubt it

Posted by: Dan Roberts | April 13, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Thank you. It needed to be said. Those jerks are no more “innocent” than OJ Simpson.

Posted by: sue | April 13, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

All I have to say this is why the media is not to be trusted. I take everthing the media reports on with a HUGE grain of salt.

Posted by: Laurie | April 13, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Unbelievable. He must be prepping for a spot on The View. What an incredibly arrogant perspective.

Posted by: Daniel | April 13, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

So Terry Moran, liberal journalist, thinks he has something to say by way of injecting class envy into a story. Let’s dredge up some of his rushes to judgment from the early days of the case. Wonder whether Moran had offered to sign that “statement of the 88″ from Duke. I’m sure he was with them in spirit. Libs know the “higher ground,” which always involves meeting out justice according to their own formula.

Posted by: Duane Lamers | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Nice job Mr. Moran. You’ve shown yourself to be an absolute idiot once again. As these comments flood in you may wish to reflect on your comments above ask yourself wether it’s everybody else or is it you that’s out of touch. Is it any wonder that we are witnessing a rapid shrinking of the audience of mainstream media outlets populated by silly liberals like you.

Posted by: Jim from Bricktown | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

This trite little column sounds a lot like sour grapes. Sorry, you tried to make news (again), instead of reporting it, and it didn’t work out.

Posted by: Whysoangry | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

We should feel sorry for anyone that is wrongly accused, regardless of their race or ethnicity. Why do we have to be so divided? I guess it will take another 9/11 to become respectful of each other again.

Posted by: Matthew | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

I think you misspelled your last name.

Posted by: Brad | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Hey Terry, why don’t you ask Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to say they are sorry for this injustice. God know they owe them at least that!

Posted by: william | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

I’m sure you feel like this gives you some credibility with your elitist cliques, but you are really just a TOOL to be used and discarded when it’s convenient.

Posted by: MAC | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Well, whatever respect I had for Mr. Moron just flew out the window! These kids were falsely charged with a serious crime. Whether or not they were “rich” or white or whatever is beside the point! They DID NOT deserve what happened to them, period!! And from what I’ve heard in the past, these kids are not “rich”. They come from good upstanding families and did well in school to get admitted to Duke. What on earth is wrong with that?? Anyway, being “rich” is not a crime in this country, despite that some leftists in this country would like to make it that way….

Posted by: Todd | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

You ARE kidding, right? These guys were maliciously prosecuted by an out of control DA, their reputations are permanently marred as the words “Duke Lacrosse team” will always have connotations of rape, the coach was unjustly fired and the media had a feeding frenzy on them and we’re not supposed to feel any sympathy for them. Perhaps what you meant to say was, “This should lead us to make sure no one is ever dragged through the mud like this, never imprisoned falsely, never accused and charged to get a slimy attorney reelected to public office, never given horrible legal representation no matter their circumstances.” I’m sure that is what you meant.

Posted by: Joe Pritchett | April 13, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Terry Moran is ridiculous. The only reason why the Duke case was a big deal was that the media made a national story of “young, rich white men on a rampage.” Terry Moran HAS NO PROOF that racial epithets were uttered that night and EVEN IF THEY WERE he has no proof that these 3 young men were the ones who said it. Finnerty and Seligmann were not even at the party when the dispute occurred. She randomly picked those 3 photos. SHAME ON YOU, TERRY.

Posted by: XYZ | April 13, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Some of what this guy said was never proven. They never called her names. It was all a lie.

Posted by: JKB | April 13, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Unbelieveable rational. Please do yourself a favor and go to Tought Rehab. You won’t appear to be such moron.

Posted by: scout | April 13, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Unbelievable article. The race baiting that Mr. Moran does is just incredible.
Hey Terry, how does it feel to fully expose your race baiting liberal bias. Definitely not surprising coming from ABC news. Hope you never have a son falsely accused of rape.
I too was going to write a big long response but why even bother.
This has got to be one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Talk about reverse discrimination! Yes, they had the resources to fight back and thank goodness for that. I guess they should be punished for being white and rich because that is a crime these days? They faced at least 30 years in jail and you bet they fought back with everything they had. Did you go to college? Ever drink a beer there? Ever go to a party, a bachelor party maybe? give me a break.

Posted by: Nancy | April 13, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

I want to know when Sharpton & Jackson will hold a press conference apologizing to the three young white men who were wrongly & intentionally accused of crimes they did not commit. Sharpton and Jackson both came out with arms flying about this incident… and yet, I am sure we will NEVER hear an apology from them. Even though “ONE OF THEIR OWN” was the false accuser.

Posted by: Brett | April 13, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

It appears to me that ABC was happy to put this front and center before the public when it was portrayed as a white crime against a black. Now you are attempting to justify ABC’s rush to judgment and its lack of appetite for a black crime committed against three whites. Where is your insistence for punishment of this black criminal?

Posted by: Ray Vaselich | April 13, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Well, one shouldn’t be too suprised by this post from Mr. Moron, sorry Moran. All you would have to do is read some of his previous posts and his news commentary to catch his personal views and political leanings.
It seems to me his view is that they deserved to be prosecuted just because they were from Upper middle class, white families.
This is the type of reporting and commentary this guy is all about, and will continue to supply and I’ve already wasted more time on this than I should have.

Posted by: Joel | April 13, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Put yourself in those wrongly accused students’ shoes. They do not deserse all those that happened to them. No matter what! It is nonsense to say that just because too many other people have been wrongly accused, because they have the money, and so on, that they deserved the ordeal.
Nonsense.

Posted by: std | April 13, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Once upon a time right was right and wrong was wrong. Now it’s blurred when race or wealth are involved. Rich and white beware, you don’t count because of all your “privileges.”

Posted by: disgusted | April 13, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Another diatribe by the modern, holier-than-thou puritans. Long live Falstaff!

Posted by: Ryan | April 13, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am

I had to stop reading about half way through your post Terry because you are so way off base it’s not even funny. They should be happy they got ‘high-priced legal representation’? And who paid for that representation stupid? I’m assuming their parents and I bet the price tag is more than you make in 10 years. So, yea they should be really happy.
You are stupid. I don’t see how ABC News would employ someone so ignorant.

Posted by: Stupidity | April 13, 2007, 9:56 am 9:56 am

There is not much more I can add to the above comments except to say that this is undoubtably the most inane article by I so called “respected” journalist I have ever read. How someone with your train of thought is allowed to influence minds from the pulpet of ABC is beyond me.

Posted by: John Coppola | April 13, 2007, 10:02 am 10:02 am

I think it’s important not to lose sight of the difference between “innocent” and “not guilty”. Courts find people “guilty” or “not guilty”.
I don’t think any court in the land can actually find these stripper purchasing, racial epithet hurling, over-priviledged frat boys….”innocent”.

Posted by: Frank Willbright | April 13, 2007, 10:02 am 10:02 am

Mr. Moran:
You are a disgrace to professional journalists. Your job is to report the news, not make statements about those involved in news stories. Your passing judgement on the lacrosse team for hiring strippers is wrong. While I agree that morally it was not right, it wasn’t an illegal act.
Your comments should have been focused on Mr. Nifong, who is the real villain in this case.

Posted by: GeorgePBurdell | April 13, 2007, 10:02 am 10:02 am

As a high-profile reporter for a national media syndicate, I am sure that Mr. Moran’s salary is quite high and comparable to that of the Duke lacrosse players’ parents income. Does that make him “rich?” I wonder how he would feel if his son was in the same situation?
I think now is the time for forgiveness and reconciliation — starting with sincere apologies from Nifong, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the gang of 88, and the president of Duke University.

Posted by: Topper | April 13, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

So if they were poor, we could sympathize with them as we do now, but we should temper our feelings based on their incomes? Class warfare in place of seeking justice: now there’s a novel idea.
Instead of ripping these guys, how about spending some time researching similar injustices to people who don’t have their resources? Oh, sorry. That would require leaving the office and cutting into time to write informative columns like this.

Posted by: BillT | April 13, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

This so called ABC News Journalist’s name is one letter off. Instead of his name being Terry Moran it should be Terry MORON!

Posted by: abinitioadinfinitum | April 13, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

The points made are riduculous. The 3 kids were simply prosecuted for Nifongs re-election. Nothing else, it is clear RACISM. It is despicable, in any form!

Posted by: s don | April 13, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Typlical liberal bellywash!

Posted by: boxcar6464 | April 13, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Terry, are you saying that because their parents have been successful in life and have used that to provide opportunities for their children that we should not have the same level of sympathy for them that we do for others? I do not have the resources that these families have, but if this happened to my boys, I would spend my last dime defending them. Maybe if it had happened to my boys, you would endorse a little more sympathy for me because I’m middle class?

Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

The media is full of double-standards. I believe Mr. Terry should be fired immediately just like Don Imus. I also propose organizing a boycott and march outside ABC News headquarters in NYC. What evidence does Mr. Terry have that there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct every year? Sounds like he took a page out of Mr. Nifong’s book. If being wrongly accused of rape is special treatment, I sure don’t want any.

Posted by: Joe Licandro | April 13, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Wow, the logic in this post is so screwed up it is hard to know where to begin. You don’t even have to read to article but just look at the title “Dukies” to see where Mr. Moran is going. Moran’s way of thinking is exactly the same attitude that got Nifong into trouble. Talk about a snide, condescending attitude. Justice is suppose to be blind. Justice is not suppose to care if you are rich or poor. These guys had a year of their lives taken away from them. Not knowing if you are going to be thrown in jail for something you didn’t do has to be an experience that no one should have to go through. I think the one of the ironies now is that Mr. Nifong now has the same threat of jail time hanging over his head. The only difference is that he’s guilty.

Posted by: dave | April 13, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Our guys and gals in the military are dying right at this moment in Iraq and yet this nation’s concerns continue to be anything but that fact. Duke and Rutgers and all of such college nonsense is BS. Move on people. Support our troops. Join the military and see life for real.

Posted by: Paul O | April 13, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Moran – You are a MORON…

Posted by: Al | April 13, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

So, when can these guys expect THEIR formal apologies from our beloved racialy biased reverends, who were so quick to jump to the aid of this poor black woman that was, in their minds, wronged so viciously???

Posted by: Ron | April 13, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

This might just be the most simple minded commentary ever written.

Posted by: Rick Teague | April 13, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

What a load of crap…it’s ok to have sympathy for EVERYONE that gets screwed, including rich white guys.

Posted by: anon | April 13, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Wow I didn’t know ordering strippers was deserving of a possible 20 year prison sentence and a ruined reputation across the country. This article is completely out of wack. If you believe that we shouldn’t focus on this case, then why are you writing an article about it? Doesn’t make sense does it!

Posted by: Mick | April 13, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Shame on you!!! Just completely lost any respect I had for you! Your as bad as Nifong the rogue prosecutor.

Posted by: Lloyd Scott | April 13, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Sounds the the idiotic Dan Blather reporting!
Seems ABC hired this fired idiotic liar!

Posted by: appman | April 13, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Maybe you should talk to Don Imus about utterering stupid things.

Posted by: Frank S | April 13, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

You, sir, are an ass !

Posted by: Ted | April 13, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

i agree with Kris, the attitude displayed in this article by Mr. Moran is exactly the PC attitude that Nifong was able to manipulate into a case.

Posted by: shane | April 13, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

What’s wrong with hiring strippers? Kind of judgemental unless you’re one of those moralistic religious rightwing fanatics.
-Jack

Posted by: Jack | April 13, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

I sincerely hope Terry Moran one day is maneuvered into the crosshairs of a politically-motivated prosecutor. Then we’ll see how sorry he feels about it.
This column is really embarassing. It’s basically, “They’re well-to-do, so they deserve any injustice that is visited upon them.” Typical liberal MSM thinking. Wonder why your ratings are dropping?

Posted by: Buck Smith | April 13, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Wow, what happened to your so-called objectivity as a journalist. Seems you’ve clearly chosen sides. And whose fault is it what the media doesn’t cover – the public? How is it that the journalists in this “distinguished profession” get off scot-free? Whatever happened to real journalism that is objective and fair?

Posted by: Eileen | April 13, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

You truly are a “moran”.

Posted by: Thomas | April 13, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Media bias anyone? This guy has to be the worst! The amazing thing is that he is so arrongant he has no idea how far left-wing he has become!!

Posted by: Dan | April 13, 2007, 10:07 am 10:07 am

So it’s OK for this to happen to young white men? Because they are young white men they should be punished. Just being a young white man means you are guilty of something and should be taught a lesson. Young white men need to suffer because of the injustice done to young black men? That will show those young white men. So rather than fix the one problem you would rather make things even by destroying everyones lives.

Posted by: Dave L | April 13, 2007, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Terry -
You seem to lead a successful life. You have a good career, heck you’re a reporter so obviously you must be “rich”. For your sake, I hope you are never falsely accused of rape, but if you are….you’d be able to afford some pretty good attorney’s…lucky you.

Posted by: Jason | April 13, 2007, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Before you start complaining about how the press these young men got, remember that Jackson and Sharpton helped keep them in the spotlight with their instigating.

Posted by: Midwest | April 13, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Your comments are more typical of class warfare and envy and totally inappropriate. Remember the old saw of Shakespeare: he who takes my coat takes nothing; he who takes my good name takes everything. Regardless of their social status, they will always carry the blemish of the charges because they will be constantly asked the question, “have you ever been arrested.”

Posted by: Larry Johnson | April 13, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

What a joke, it’s such a double edge sword. This is reverse racism here and I dont see Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton screaming to the media to have vindication…some priorities are completely distorted here…

Posted by: The Kid | April 13, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

The idea that we should not care or feel sorry for the wrongly accused young men, because less fortunate young men are also exposed to judicial misconduct is absurd. The idea is to feel the same about the less fortunate, not feel less for the young men. This is typical liberal poppycock that we should “dumb down” the fortunate to make them on par with the less fortunate, instead of raising up the less fortunate. The answer is to care about all mis-judged people, not care less about more advantaged people.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

The thing this so called journalist is missing the point on is the fact that even though they hired these strippers, they were not doing anything illegal. HOWEVER, this accuser and Nifong both committed illegal acts over and over and over. Because of that the City of Durham and the District Attorney’s office should not only pay for their legal expenses but also compensate those three enough money to make this past year just a bad memory without any lingering effects.

Posted by: Forrest G. | April 13, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Is this “reporter” really knocking these guys because they are from families that have achieved the American dream of having money. This sounds like childish whining because some one has something that he wants. The fact that there are others wrongly accused has nothing to do with what happened to these guys. There is nothing illegal about hiring strippers, and the fact that they did just makes them normal college aged guys. I can’t believe that this crap passes as journalism.

Posted by: You Must be Kidding | April 13, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

In these comments I see people who are jealous of success and hate white people and more than that, hate successful white people. I have not read all the comments as I don’t have hours to waste,but, I haven’t read one yet that places blame on the woman who yelled rape or the friend who wanted to make money from the issue. I think they should be held out as very BAD people.

Posted by: CAROLINA KID | April 13, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Terry Moran – you’re an idiot with a platform within which to spread your idiocy! You, however, will not have your name dragged through the mud and your life put on hold for a year. Where’s the justice in that?

Posted by: Joe Crandall | April 13, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Please tell me you are joking ? Should we feel a “little sorry ” isn’t your network preaching “victims rights ” ?…Oh .. I get it that only counts for people whose net worth meets ABc’s quota. These kids have handled themselves with dignity and class…unlike you and the likes of Nancy Grace.

Posted by: Jimmy Harkin | April 13, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Strippers?
When the media were pushing the case against the athletes these gals were routinely referred to as “exotic dancers.” What changed?

Posted by: Mornac | April 13, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

A privileged limosine liberal journalist denigrates three young men because they come from successful families. Nothing new here. Just another shot fired in the fraudulent culture war against American life.

Posted by: WTC | April 13, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

You, sir, are a terrible person. This is one of the most thoughtless and cruel articles I have read in quite some time. 1. The stripper lied about the rape, who is to say she didn’t lie about the racial epithets? 2. They are in massive debt from those legal fees. Should they be looked upon differently because they can afford better lawyers to fight off false accusations? 3. You have NO IDEA what it is like to be these men. Thsi will follow them no matter where they go until they die.
Your argument is, basically, don’t feel bad for these young men, because others are abused around the country without the means to fight. Terrible logic.

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. All I see here is advocation of revenge. We all know how that works out.

Posted by: Nate | April 13, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Terry,
You are an idiot!

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Incredible! Perhaps one day YOU will get to live through being wrong accused of something and dragged through such a nightmare as these students. I doubt, then, that any of your readers will have any sympathy at all for you in your priviledged state of being. What a naive attitude. You must have a plastic heart ~ or none at all.

Posted by: julie anne | April 13, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

You’re not very bright are you Mr. Reporter?
Don’t even bother covering the hell those guys caught on campus during the rape of their good names.

Posted by: GLLee | April 13, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Is this a joke? You can’t be serious. False accusations like this, I believe, are worse than the actual crime and should be punishable by extreme measures. The “Dukies” will be marred by this for quite a while.

Posted by: Bill S | April 13, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Wow….you don’t even try to hide your ultra lib politics! I hope that in the future someone with your bias never gets a job as a reporter!

Posted by: Anthony | April 13, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Terry Moran is more offensive than Imus. He has claimed these kids have a privilege existence for being wrongly convicted by a lynch mob of liberals? Where does Terry Moran live? CBS is bending over backwards to offset Imus, but has gone too far. Hiring a stripper is not against the law in North Carolina. I want Terry Moran fired and I want him to make a public apology to the lacrosse players at the governor’s mansion. Why isn’t Terry Moran using his time demanding Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson apologize to the lacrosse players? Or asking where these lacrosse player’s senators were in defending their civil rights. Shame on CBS. Yes, the are racist. Racists against white men.

Posted by: Karen | April 13, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

how can anyone possibly think that this suffering is ok just because these men had rich parents. If they hadnt had the means to battle, they woould have lost their entire lives to false charges. Dont dismiss the DAs power trip for nothing. Perhaps if the press actually forces proper behavior then more bad cases wont get tried and forced on people who cant fight back. This is an absolutely disgusting viewpoint. Attacking the rich that should suffer is beyond ridiculous and you deserver Imus’ fate.

Posted by: reader of nonsense | April 13, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am

This is a self-serving attempt to justify the media’s own complicity in a racist extortion attempt, in order to profit from the news attention. Moran’s logic is effectively identical to Nifong’s.

Posted by: B | April 13, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am

This is why I dont watch the ABC and other news networks..This Guy Terry I am sorry to say doesnt need a job but needs to learn about life in the real world;He needs to listen to talk radio

Posted by: john | April 13, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Terry, you are an idiot. No wonder nobody watches network news anymore. Would you have us feel sympathy for Nifong now? The victims in this case are the young men who have had their lives turned upside down, and every woman who is actually assaulted and now has to endure having her credibility questioned thanks to this charade.

Posted by: FFB | April 13, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am

its not the first time that well-to-do preppies have gotten off because of their background…..you mean like 1/2 of the Kennedy family????

Posted by: dw | April 13, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am

I have always thought Moran was a moron and he proved it with this nonsense.

Posted by: Clifford Bell | April 13, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am

I just set the V-chip in all three of my digital cable boxes to block ABC.
Bye-bye.

Posted by: W A Grubbs | April 13, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Moran should be renamed Moron. He’s one of the many liberally biased drive-by media types.

Posted by: Frank M. | April 13, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am

You have got to be joking. I don’t think anyone in their right mind would take seriously what you are saying. These young men almost had their lives ruined and you justify that because they may have used some poor judgement?

Posted by: kathy | April 13, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am

You’re an idiot!

Posted by: Curtis | April 13, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am

The travesty is that without having the high profile lawyers, would they be on trial right now or even in jail? It is just silly to race-bait in this situation. It was the case of a lying stripper probably trying to extort some cash out of a bunch of rich ‘white boys.’
I feel extremely bad for the boys. Maybe you are jealous that you did not have the varsity sports thing going for you or the successful parents thing going for you. Thank goodness for them that the lessons of sports will teach them to take a hit and get up and that the advantages of successful parents gave them the resources to fight a media hungry DA.

Posted by: sherbel | April 13, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Mike said -
“To use that as some kind of justification for being boorish certainly lowers the bar for those who have never engaged in such low quality behavior. They may not have deserved the charges and ensuing controversy, but we are all locked into the consequences of our choices.”
Like the choice of being a stripper?

Posted by: Justin | April 13, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Try doing a Google on these young men and see what is returned and then tell me these young men are not scarred. This is a common practice for companies now-a-days to check on what kind of people they are hiring.

Posted by: Steven | April 13, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Terry Moran – “During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the dancers”.
We demand that you provide one shred of evidence to support this claim.
Have you learned nothing, man? The Durham DA and PD and the False Accuser spread lies about what happened that night, and you willingly swallowed those lies whole.
Terry Moran, are you dumb.

Posted by: roper | April 13, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

you’re an idiot. this blog is ridiculous, just another example of the despicible media attention grab at the expense of three innocent college guys who have as many flaws as every other average person worldwide.
does your profession ever make you question your own integrity?

Posted by: milton | April 13, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Dude, you’re not worth the time of day…How pathetic

Posted by: Al | April 13, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Holy crap!! Are you completely insane? They were falsely accused of rape and had their lives turned completely upside down and your comment is don’t feel too sorry for them!
Sounds to me like you are simply looking for some way to make yourself feel better for assuming that they were guilty. The mature person in your situation would say, “I was wrong and I am sorry”. And then, the mature person would attempt to learn from their mistake.
But no, not you. Instead, you look for a way of making yourself feel better.
You are a real piece of work.

Posted by: Tenacious Q | April 13, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Your comments are completely rediculous. As far as I know it is legal to higher a stripper for a party. And what does a 2005 arrest for assault have to do with anything? These guys were wrongly accused by the alleged victim and then put through hell by a prosecutor who was out of control. Whether their parents had money or not is completly irrevelant – thank God that they did or most likely these guys would be in jail. Mr. Moran, I must say that you truly are a moron.

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Shame on those Duke lacrosse players for having money to defend themselves. They surely must be guilty of something since they have the money to attend Duke and come from well to do families. Don’t feel sorry for them that they had to spend a year worrying about a completely bogus rape charge. Don’t feel sorry for them that their families had to spend hundred’s of thousands of dollars defending them. They surely must be guilty of something because they asked for a WHITE stripper, they must be RACIST. Bad behavior, yes. Stupid, yes. But frankly Terry Moran should lose his job at ABC for this column for shear, unadultarated stupidity and implying that these young men had some underlying racism — Imus lost his for basically the same thing.

Posted by: Dan | April 13, 2007, 10:14 am 10:14 am

You may think you are a journalist, but you are a creep.

Posted by: Edward | April 13, 2007, 10:14 am 10:14 am

It is disturbing that anything can be done to these kids because they are “priviledged”. Nobody talked about facts of the case, just the economic and social conditions of the accuser and the accused. Why have laws at all? What happens when a gay guy accuses a low income black guy of something? Whose status wins then?

Posted by: Habib Hassan | April 13, 2007, 10:14 am 10:14 am

And you work for a major network. You should be ashamed of that attitue. Attitudes like that is exactly why there will be no social healing….ever.

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 10:14 am 10:14 am

What you have written in this article is every bit just as prejudicial and horrifying as what Don Imus said. You are a huge liberal that should not be working at ABC. What a jerk!

Posted by: Katherine Hogendorn | April 13, 2007, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Because it happens to others makes this case no less egregious and the reason that they deserved a very public apology is because the were villified by the media in a very public way. To pretend that by hiring a stripper, which I believe is wrong, they somehow deserve something like this is completely ridiculous. To call yourself a journalist is a joke…More like an apologist for Al Sharpton and this victim.

Posted by: BJP | April 13, 2007, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Why is anyone surprised at this? Moran has always demonstrated the same contempt about our young soldiers fighting in Iraq.

Posted by: MAC | April 13, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Your essay (?) is flawed. I guess you did not go to college, or if you did, then maybe you do not deserve the perks you get out of life. So if someone falsly accused you and you were imprisioned I guess it could be said that its ok because you are white and affulent and went to a good college.

Posted by: wil bowles | April 13, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

If the “drive-by media” and Mr. Nifong hadn’t been so anxious for the next headline, justice would have been served much sooner.
Look how long it took for the accused to be cleared when this situation was handled in the appropriate manner. Justice is the only thing that matters. Not who has money, who doesn’t, how many people were enslaved 150 years ago, or any other point verbalized in you, or anyone else’s comments. Spend a little more time accurately reporting and a little less time trying to create the news.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Why do we vilify the rich in this country? What if these kids’ parents started out dirt poor and worked their butts off to earn their money? That makes them privileged? Hey Terry, where did you get your journalism degree? Columbia? UNC? NYU? Last I heard, those are expensive, elite schools too. By your logic, if accused of something, you should use a state-appointed attorney, despite having the means to afford one that can focus strictly on your case, beause it would be more fair? It would lessen the burden of having to look like you’ve made money in your life. I know, it’s the horror of the American Dream. I’m willing to bet you make more than six figures in your job, which is substantially more than I make. And, your’re white. Looks like you as privliged and connected as theese guys. So, if something bad happens to you, don’t expect sympathy from me. After all, you’re rich. One last thing, I bet you went to bed at nine every night in college, huh?

Posted by: Houndog | April 13, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

ABC take note of what CBS did with IMUS and fire this moron.

Posted by: Adam | April 13, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

You say “They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team”. How do you know? Do you know these women’s back ground. Are they different because the Rutgers players are not men or because they are mostly black. That sounds very racist and or sexist to me.

Posted by: Travis | April 13, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

The whole of media has chosen to become part of the circus. I hardly think it’s misplaced to have sympathy for anyone who’s found themselves unjustly accused and experiencing the “system”. Enjoy your job in the circus.

Posted by: Gordon | April 13, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

I am a little surprised that Mr Moran took this view in his article. It does show insensitivity and ignorance, when I thought the MSM was practicing just the opposite. I guess the “love” and sympathy articles are reserved for people that generate more press. This view and others this week in other cases, demostrate that the very people who profess their hope that there will be no color bias in this country are in fact the ones that are fanning the flames of hate. Most people of different colors, religions and sometimes views, who live in a neighborhood will learn to get along. But the MSM and others who use the MSM are in fact creating more bias. Why not just present the facts, all the facts and let the rest of us take care of it, without your perception/slant of what you think is going on. We are alot smarter than you give us credit for.

Posted by: techgrl | April 13, 2007, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Somehow – some people think it is wrong to bust your butt – do well – make a lot of dough and live the good life.
I have found these types of individuals are usually poor performers – could never make it to the big time – and are basically jealous.
Enough said.

Posted by: WJK | April 13, 2007, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Are you sure this guys name isnt MORON?

Posted by: Andy Wood | April 13, 2007, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Terry Moron is a Moron.

Posted by: RJW | April 13, 2007, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Wow, you’ve got to be kidding. It sounds like Terry Moran is saying they got what they deserved. How vicious can the liberal press be ? It sounds like Terry is saying, “Yeah, we called it wrong, but in essence the charges were in line with their activities and what their socio-economic class deserves”. Kinda makes Don Imus’s off the cuff remark to similar college athletes pale in comparison. Rosie O’Donnell posed the question, “Who’s next ?”. Maybe it should be Terry Moran.

Posted by: bob in Montana | April 13, 2007, 10:17 am 10:17 am

This blog is a clear reflection of the leftist mindset of the lapdog news media. Mr. Moran asserts that we shouldn’t feel bad for three men maliciously defamed with a charge of rape on the grounds that they were well of enough to hire good legal counsel. In other words, Mr. Moran believes that it is a sin to be successful and accomplish the American dream of financil security. Keep this leftist bias in mind when you watch him report the news on a daily basis.
By the way, in view of Mr. Moran’s scolding of the news media for not covering cases of prosecutorial misconduct regarding lower-income people: When was the last time Mr. Moran went out and reported on that subject?

Posted by: Publius | April 13, 2007, 10:17 am 10:17 am

What happened to Dr. King’s words that we should be judged by the content of our character, not by the color of our skin? These men, 1 of which of questionable character, were convicted in the media because of the color of their skin and because of the color of the alleged victim’s skin. The only crimes committed, as far as I can tell are on the part of the alleged victim for false charges and lying under oath and by Nifong for tampering with or at least withholding key evidence from the grand jury. Finally, that last paragraph could be directed at the media for their treatment of these 3 men, while not illegal, not entirely admirable either.

Posted by: JT | April 13, 2007, 10:17 am 10:17 am

The author complains that the only reason this case was in the spotlight was because they were white. And he would be correct. However, the color of their skin made them notorious and racist. The media should be ashamed of putting so much emphasis on a false rape case because of the racial tones in the case. Also, blame goes to black activist groups who hyped up the race card. Shamefully, they acted as if the racism was more of an issue than the alleged rape itself. The story ended up being about prosecutorial abuse, but that is not how the story started. So you cant blame the media for covering prosecutorial abuse because the story eventually turned into it even though it started out as a case where rich white guys supposedly raped a black girl. Quit your whining Terry and get the sequence of events correct.

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Well, Terry, if there are so many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct – and there are – since you’re a high profile member of the media, get busy digging and covering.
A glib swipe at the “privileged” Dukies is a nice easy way out for you, isn’t it? I mean, that way it’s not that you and your network are not doing your job. It’s all someone else’s fault.
But that isn’t true, and you know it. You just said so.
If you think prosecutorial misconduct is a problem then what is stopping you from doing something about it, like exposing it, which is what you are supposed to do? It’s your job, after all.
Honestly, your comments speak volumes about why prosecutors think they can do things like the Duke prosecution and get away with it. They know how pathetic you and your media bretheren are. They have nothing to fear.

Posted by: Jake | April 13, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

You are asking us to hold it against them because they are white, and come from a family with means to hire attorney’s. As if they were poor & black their getting off would have more meaning.
This is about their guilt or innocence, what happens in other situations has no bearing in this matter.
The sad fact is that if they didn’t have families with money they would probably have been tried and convicted. This was still a tragic miscarriage of justice.

Posted by: RightOne | April 13, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

OMG, don’t you people have jobs?

Posted by: MS | April 13, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Wonder if the three wrongly accused were black…You would be writing about them in this manner.
Interesting. You are so wrong on this one. The last time I checked, the poor Strippers were for rent.

Posted by: Molly | April 13, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

And you wonder why people think there is a liberal bias in the media?

Posted by: Jay | April 13, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

If the crime here is these young men are from a “rich” family then this country has bigger problems than we think. Why is it a problem to have money in this country? It is also nice to know that black athelets don’t like to hire strippers or get drunk at parties. But then wait lets take a look at the NFL or the NBA. Give me a break, this got out of hand due to a bad lawyer and the media wanting to get richer selling their shock news. The country has more problems than bashing three white men who where wronged.

Posted by: jake | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

You are dead wrong! I consider myself, at best, middle class and if my son were caught up in the same situation I would look for the “best” attorney available regardless of the cost.
The attorney and all that jumped on his bandwagon owe these guys an public apology!
Jim

Posted by: jim | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Funny how liberal reporters don’t say the same thing about Black criminals who are wrongfully accused or sentenced.
Of course, White women who accuse a Black man of rape don’t have 88 professors writing an editorial in the paper on their behalf either, nor do they have the media convicting the Black man in the papers before a trial.

Posted by: Scot Walker | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Nice try at being provocative. Too bad you lack the candlepower to pull it off

Posted by: TH | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Don’t feel too sorry for the Dukies? Even the title of this post is ridiculous. Nice though, to see a member of the media still sitting in judgment of these three rich, privileged white boys. How dare they get any sympathy!

Posted by: JD | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

This article is irresponsible and
confirms my decision made long ago never to watch ABC. What a crock!!!!!

Posted by: Louis | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Another day, another rationalization. Imus is villified. The Duke accusations are marginalized. As legacy media slides into irrelevance, let us take this measure of this moment; instead of being journalists, they choose to be evanelists who insist on reporting how the world fails to meet THEIR expectations. Tell us what happened, Mr. Moran. Don’t presume to tell me what to think of it.

Posted by: CM | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Not to lessen the hiring of strippers and fighting, but lets keep in mind these kids are in college. What does assault, hiring strippers, or racial slurs have to do with rape?? NOTHING. Any case that a female falsely accuses rape, she should go to jail. Is is just me, or does this come off as being against the privileged upper class?

Posted by: Andy | April 13, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Mr. Moran, If you’re falsely accused of a crime, we won’t feel sorry for you, either.
Mr. Nifong used the indictment of those innocent men for political reasons. If you’re not outraged about that, you’re beyond hope.
Mr. Moran, I’ll be finished with ABC News after today. You’re the reason.

Posted by: Janice | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Blah, blah, blah, blah. How politically correct: white privilege as opposed to the victimized underclass. No sympathy for the oppressor. All from a privileged media elite. Blah, blah. What are you seeking a professorship among the 88 Dukie profs who pre-judged the young men in their infamous newspaper ad?

Posted by: D. Alan | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

There is nothing funny about being falsely accused of rape. Just the perception alone can ruin lives, devestate career potential. Even when cleared and found innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt, the perception of wrongdoing often lingers. People unlike justice are seldom blind.
Perhaps your lack of sensativity, and rather racist remarks about their “special treatment” in the justice system should be held to the same standard as Don Imus. Why should you be allowed to disparage them any more than he apparently was allowed to disparage the Rutgers women?

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

You are a journalist?
ABC pays you a salary?

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Is there anyone more “privileged” than a pretty boy being paid millions to pose as a Washington network TV “journalist”?

Posted by: MAC | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Moran’s argument is so idiotic it could only have come from an elite whose members attempt to acquire greater social status by eating their own – to paraphrase Steve Sailer.
What in God’s name is wrong with specifying the preferred race of a stripper? It is no different than specifying her hair color or body shape. (Not that I have experience in making such selections)

Posted by: JS | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Funny how “loud” & “stupid” always seem to go together.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Ah liberals, while it is true that the the Duke three are now getting over the top support, and that they put themselves in the situation that caused the issue there is moral relativism throughout Terry’s screed and some of the comments. Question: because there is one injustice do we excuse another? Is there such a thing as “he did it too” right and wrong – reminiscent of when one kid gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar then pointing to another?
Should we excuse what Imus said because others including some that villify him have said worse? Or is there such a thing as absolute right and wrong?

Posted by: Keith B | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Conduct and events leading to the prosecutorial misconduct? Irrelevant. This is the kind of thinking that overshadows and clouds the REPORTING endeavors of this individual, and is a microcosm of the media overall today. It is representative of why I, along with millions of Americans, avoid the mainstream media.

Posted by: Torquemada | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Seriously Terry you need to check the liberal handbook, it is becoming less cool to bash the white rich families right now. Well at least until your pal Hillary is done milking them for cash for her campaign.

Posted by: Mike@Rocklin | April 13, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

What a joke! A bunch of basketball players are the target of a bad joke and they get to go on Oprah because somebody called them a name. These kids have their names dragged through the mud for a year, their reputations ruined, their sport banned and will probably be unfairly marked for the rest of their lives – and that’s OK because it turned out alright in the end?!?!
Sure their are people who are unfairly prosecuted from time to time. It happens unfortunately. However, those people are rarely tried and found guilty in a national witch hunt motivated by class-envy and racial prejudice.

Posted by: PRE | April 13, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Mr. Moran, Now you are picking on the Duke players because they are white..shame on you..ABC is really screwy to put this out there..

Posted by: cyn | April 13, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Since we’re now firing members of the media for saying ignorant things about innocent people, why isn’t Terry looking for a new job?

Posted by: Scott | April 13, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am

As a white, fairly affluent person I am DEEPLY OFFENDED by your comments Mr. Moran, and since offending people is the height of criminality in this country right now, you should be fired and charged with a hate crime!

Posted by: Patti | April 13, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am

This idiot, fuzzy thinking reporter, should be made to apologize to the young men of the Duke rape case for writing this moronic article and then he should be fired from ABC!!

Posted by: Ross | April 13, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

it appears that the liberal media is disappointed they weren’t convicted. The media owes an appology to these 3 young men. Since when is it a crime to be successful

Posted by: Kevin Hansen | April 13, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Yes they had high priced lawyers, and yes this is national news. Yes there are alot of people across this country that are wrongly accused every year.
But I think that what you are forgetting is the media storm that followed this case. That’s what makes this different. Were the other cases of the “wrongly accused” on the cover of every newpaper across the country? Was it national news when they were accussed? These young men in this case deserve as much attention now for being wrongly accussed as they received when they were charged. That is what makes this case different.

Posted by: Micahel | April 13, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

This is why I don’t watch ABC or any news broadcast. Yes, I disdain the whole stripper scene, as well as racial epithets. These students created an environment that breeds shady characters and they got burned. But what does a 2005 assult charge have to do with a bad DA and false accusations? Should be pity this situation less due to that? And for this reporter to mention these students as “privledged”. I thought justice was blind. And to compare the rutger women and all those who are poor to this situation smacks with reverse prejustice. Should we feel more sorry if this was a black woman falsely accused of rape by the DA? Of course not. Wrong is wrong in every circumstance, pitied equally. If anything, we need to make sure that justice is equal for all, poor and black or rich and white, and stop this rediculas class and race warfare.

Posted by: Mark in Cleveland | April 13, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Terry, you are as insensitive as Don Imus.
Your college life should be investigated fully to see if you just talk the talk or really walk the walk.
What ever happened to he without sin cast the first stone???

Posted by: ray | April 13, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Wow now I know why I don’t watch ABC News! How come it always comes down to race? You need to get a grip. How about all the “privilaged minority athletes” who commit crimes and are let loose because they have a god given talent to throw a ball or run fast?! Hmmmmnn… Let me think; O.J., Michael Irvine, Lawrence Taylor, Ricky Williams and the list goes on and on. Now if any of them would have been a middle class white man without incredible athleticism, where would they be?!!!!

Posted by: Eric Johnson | April 13, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

ABC News: Fire this man. He just wrote that the suffering of one person should be downplayed because some other completely unrelated person has also suffered. Are you really going to let him get away with that? Clearly he has no concept of justice, no sense of ethics, and no business in a profession that relies on the ability to remain neutral. Is that also true of ABC?
Terry Moran: You deserve what Imus got, for essentially the same reason. I will remember your name and NEVER read anything you write.

Posted by: Athol Dickson | April 13, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Terry, when you are falsely accused of rape, then you can pass judgement. These boys lives are forever altered. As most college kids did, they partied. So what? Partying and drinking is not a crime. Nifong and the accuser commited a crime. To suggest that the boys are at fault because they were partying is sick. How dare you?

Posted by: NOYB | April 13, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Feeling bad for three young men who were viciously abused by a rogue D.A., the media, their university, and various race-baiting hucksters doesn’t mean ignoring the plight of other victims of prosecutorial misconduct. Most people have enough sympathy to go around. Plus, keep in mind that these kids were trashed nationally while other accused individuals aren’t necessarily given the same treatment. Think of how gracefully Reade Seligman made the essential point of this mean-spirited article: if the cops and prosecutor could railroad these guys without any evidence what happens to people who lack the resources to defend themselves?

Posted by: Jill | April 13, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Terry you are just a clown. These kids have had their lives completely changed because of this mess, and all because some STRIPPER that i am suppose to feel bad for, lied because she needed money. Don’t blame the Duke families for having money. Blame the system for being so expensive that when someone unable to pay for top attorneys and extensive legal can’t fight the charge and are wrongfully put in jail. It’s the people who can’t pay that you are feeling so bad for. And Terry like you have never gone to the strip club or bought strippers cut me a break buddy.

Posted by: big jm | April 13, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

I can’t believe that ABC would allow these comments to be on their site!!! Are you NUTS?!?!? Are you excusing the ruin of their good name as OK simply because they had the money to get out of it!? ANYONE regardless of the color of their skin or finances should NOT be treated the way these guys were. NO, they’re not Sunday School kids, but ANY failures in their past don’t justify them having to endure this experience! ABC should be ashamed to allow you to post such statements.

Posted by: Dr. Buster Wilson | April 13, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Terry,
So you are saying that Rutgers Women don’t match up, and are a lower class citizens.
Thats offensive!

Posted by: BB | April 13, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Let’s see… The Rutgers women have the empathy of the nation, they have Jesse & Al using their incident on every news program, and their families haven’t spent one red cent on legal fees.
The Duke boys were dragged through the mud FOR MORE THAN A YEAR by Nifong, YOU IN THE FREAKIN’ PRESS, Jessie & Al (where’s the apologies at, guys?), and even if they come from priviledged backgrounds, that doesn’t make it okay that their families committed a ton of resources for their defense.
Mr. Moran, you simply reinforce every reason why people are turning away from “objective journalists” such as your self. You disgust me!

Posted by: Joby | April 13, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

What I find interesting is that we have a media figure arguing that so much unreported and unremarked prosecutorial misconduct occurs, we shouldn’t afford this specific case much attention.
So who is remiss in not bringing to light this vast prosecutorial misconduct situation? How much reporting on prosecutorial misconduct has this guy done in the last five years?

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

I don’t feel sorry, I feel anger that our justice system has been perverted. Where is the innocent until proven guilty. Why is it that prosecutors, police, and politicians are allowed to perjure themselves without fear of punishment. Why are they allowed to use the media to destroy the reputations of those who wait for their day in court. There are all too many people in our society who’s lives have been shattered by false charges and forced to plead guilty to lesser charges because they cannot afford a good defense.
These kids lucked out, now what about Tom Delay, what about the border agents, and what about thousands of other citizens black, white, and hispanic who have to watch their reputations and families destroyed by a system that is clearly out of control.

Posted by: peterkuck | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

When the government fears the people we have democracy.
When the people fear the government we have TYRANNY.
Ramos and Compean rot in prison.

Posted by: X-republican | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Terry are you OK? Did you fall on your head? These guys were falsely accused of rape. They had to spend a year of their lives deemed as rapists, their parents are facing a million plus in debt from legal fees defending false allegations, not to mention having their lives turned upside down. How would you like to walk in those shoes for a year?

Posted by: JOE | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Terry,
Ever take a course that emphasized Common Sense? I Didn’t think so!

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

So, just because these young men are more “fortunate” than others, we shouldn’t feel sympathay for them in this fiasco? The fact that they are rich white boys is the only reason you and other media outlets rushed to judge them. You and the rest of the media in this nation are just as guilty as Nifong. It may be that the resources available to the parents in this case made the difference in their being cleared, but it was also the reason so many assumed their guilt. I’m sick of this mentality that people who have made a successful life for themselves should feel guilty about their advantages. These kids may not have worked for the priviledges they now enjoy, but someone did.

Posted by: Dennis | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Wow, that piece bordered on hate speech. That was one of the most bitter things I have ever read. Does ABC have editors?? That should have never seen the light of day. That was an embarrassment and thats saying something coming from Moran.

Posted by: W | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

I guess the million dollars apiece in legal fees is just “icing on the cake” for these lucky lads, eh?
Hope their parents don’t lose their homes tryung to pay off the lawyers in a gratuitous case that should never have gone past the original bungled investigation.
I guess it “serves them right” for being white and aspiring to the middle class…

Posted by: Fred | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

How self-indulgent of a media type to remind us plebes how good the Dukies have it so we shouldn’t feel sorry for their lives being destroyed by a prosecutor wanting to get re-elected when it was the media more than any other group that caused so much of the pain and loss they experienced by facilitating and amplifying the rush to judgement.

Posted by: bps | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Thank God so many fine Americans are finally waking up to the abuses of Moran and the people like him who dominate the major media outlets. Seeing so many thoughtful, intelligent responses to this garbage made my day.

Posted by: Onemore | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

I guess what he is saying is they must be guilty of something.
As ABC’s news numbers continue to slide maybe this guy can beg a jog from Sharpton, Jackson et al.
This is why we do not watch ABC in our house.

Posted by: Alan | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Mr. Moran is the epitome of what is wrong with our press. I would like to see him lose his job over such remarks…Is he so stupid to think that these families just came up with the money from beneath their mattresses. NO…they had to take out huge mortgages on their homes and borrow from other sources. They did what they had to do but now they have to pay it back like the rest of us. They are in debt up to their eyeballs. They may have saved to put their sons through Duke (not the most expensive school in our country by the way) but nobody sets aside over a million dollars just for attorney fees while their child gets his education. Trust me, you don’t have to be rich to go to Duke, but as we can see – it helps…To be unjustly accused of any crime is a crime and to be tried in the press by people like Mr. Moran is also a crime. These injustices happen too often in our society and Mr. Moran you need to be thankful that it hasn’t happened to you – yet.

Posted by: Sherry | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

There is no question there was travesty of justice. Stipper should go to jail.
However, these privileged white men are sick and twisted individuals to want to go see strippers. They organized an $800 collection; that should shed some light on their state of mind. Then they goto Duke to get education; is this the kind of sophisticated background you want your kids to be emulating.
The parents have raised faulty children – they share some blame too.

Posted by: Navin | April 13, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Replace the “a” in your last name with an “o”, Terry.
You’re a biased hack who I feel is just as much of the problem as Al Sharpton is with regards to ramping divisive issues such as race, class, and politics.
You’re an embarrassment to your profession.

Posted by: Jamz | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

to not feel sorry for these three young men is not to feel at all…yes, there is injustice all throught the legal system and these individuals did have a legal team that not all could afford. the difference is that when most people are accused of something as haneous as rape it isn’t national news with al sharpton and jesse jackson spearheading a racially backed campaign to convict the accused in the court of public opinion…if the accused were black and the victim white there would have been outcry from these same community leaders that all were jumping to conclusinons before a proper trial…what happened to innocent until proven guilty or does it only apply to cases where sharpton and jacksons agendas match that of the accused…

Posted by: justice1 | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

What do you have against people with money? Each one of these men acknowledged that they were fortunate that they have the means to defend themselves. They also said it was important that the legal system be reviewed for all of the peaple who don’t!

Posted by: GAIL HOLLAND | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Hey Terry, Don’t do the class envy thing. You probably have more in common with the Dukies than most of the people who have posted here. You don’t get a job with ABC unless you have clout. You don’t have the assignments you have unless you have clout. I’d love to interview you college friends about you behavior.

Posted by: Baker | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

This injustice came about because Nifong chose to sell his soul in exchange for African-American votes.If your vote can be bought by such baseness, you are not much of a citizen.

Posted by: Elizabeth | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Imus was and is a “Shock Jock” and just as evil is you being a “Shock Blogger”………..Think about it

Posted by: Fred | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Wow…comparing 3 guys who have been falsely accused of rape to women who were called a name (of which they heard second hand)is a laugh. I guess ‘sticks and stones’ will devastate your life, but facing 30 years in prison for something you didn’t do…well, we should ‘just get over it’. Kinda of like saying that we shouldn’t feel sorry for Nicole Simpson because she didn’t live the life of Mother Theresa. This diatribe is quite the reach in PC-dom.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

I want to know where are the “brave” media members that can stand up to the rich and mighty Duke lacrosse players but cower to every word cancers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton utter and never report the continued racist tirades these people have made over the years? People like you are exibit A why normal people have absolutely no use for today’s media and its members.

Posted by: Ron Lee | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

you are an ass

Posted by: Dean Wermer | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

One of these young men is the son of a Long Island Fireman-hardly a privileged background.
A critical point here is the treatment these young men received from the media. Gone was their constitutional presumption of innocence. They were found guilty in the most absolute of terms.
Guilty only because they were white men being accused by a black woman. This illustrates why we may never have improved race relations in this country-we can’t have honest dialogue.
Don Imus lost his job for things he said-when will Al Sharpton lose his job for things he said about these innocent youhg men? Oh wait I forgot, they’re white so injustice toward them doesn’t count.

Posted by: William Post | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

It is ABC did you expect anything different.

Posted by: Dennis Dees | April 13, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Whether or not one feels sorry for the Dukies, we should all feel deep concern for the utter failure of the judicial system, and the rush to judgement by the press, so called black leaders, and most of all the contemptable conduct of an otherwise respected University.
DBH

Posted by: Dennis B Haase | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Terry,
Is your last name spelled M-O-R-A-N or M-O-R-O-N?

Posted by: GKeller | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Utterly stupid. They pay you?

Posted by: notforme | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

You should be on the Rutgers Defense Team. This is the kinda of logic that is from a liberal, left wing, socialist elitist journalist that still wants to wage class warfare and blame white people for all the sins of the past, for which they had nothing to do with.
BTW, following your logic, I think the Rutgers BB Team should pay Don Imus an agency fee for all the money they will make on how he ruined them for life, stole their joy and cause permanent emotional damge to them. They will make millions because of Imus.
And what about the LAdy Vols?? Does anyone want to compensate them for WINNING the tournamaent?? I mean they are the ones really losing the joy!

Posted by: Mrgbb | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

So you’re upset because college guys wanted a stripper and had famalies that could afford a good attorney? They were paraded and slandered in front of the media and nation as rapists and horrible people. Not only should every news organization apologize to them, so should the DA, Al Sharpton, the stripper and anyone else who accused them.

Posted by: Rico | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

How do you find a job in media? Oh yeah, ABC News only hires left wing nut cases. Imus gets fired for doing what he has done for over 30 years and now we’re stuck with idiots like you. Where will the liberal politically correct thought police take us next.

Posted by: RH | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

So, wait…we should not feel sorry for these boys because they dared to ask for a white stripper and one of them ::gasp:: had an assault charge? Oh, and how dare they have the means to pay for a defense. My god, how awful of them. People like you LOVE to turn everything into a color issue. Grow up. Why is there still racism? Because we are blessed with men like Sharpton and obviously you, who won’t let it die.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Nothing like fueling a little class warfare, huh? To you, their crime appears to be that they are from upper-middle class.
Granted, I disagree with hiring strippers, but you expect stupid things from college kids. I wonder if the writer ever made a mistake.
I thought the boys handled themselves wonderfully, in their interviews. Perhaps they grew up and learned something from this horrible incident.

Posted by: Geez! | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Terry, this prissy article is a perfect example of class and race hatred. Grow up.

Posted by: Anne | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

What kind of ten-cent editor lets this ignorant and malignant trash get filed as news.

Posted by: Huckleberry | April 13, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am

I can’t believe that someone actually got paid to write that idiodic article!

Posted by: BobWa | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

You are a moron!!
Tell me again ABC isn’t a left wing organization….

Posted by: OJ | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

You are absolutely wrong in every way. These are young men with bright futures whose names will forever be shadowed by the accusations of a liar. They will be confronted with people who do not remember why they know their name, just that they think they did a bad thing. Most unfortunately, they will be confronted with people like you who believe a night of college debaughery makes them liable for a lifetime of blame, whether they did what they were accused of or not. That is almost worse than what they have already faced.

Posted by: Amy | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

I call race baiting! Class envy!
I’m so sick of smarmy opinion passing itself off as intelligent commentary.
Shame on you Terry Moran! Tell me you wouldn’t have done exactly the same thing in the same circumstances!
Heaven help you if you are ever falsely accused of a horrendous crime. You might be cleared of the charges, but the devastation to your reputation and the stain on your good name would remain. So too with these young men.
And I am sure, your reputation in college is as pure as the wind driven snow! Some college boys hired a couple of strippers for a party. SO WHAT!? It goes on all the time. It doesn’t make them gang banging rapists any more then it does my wife who hired a strip-o-gram for my 40th birthday party.
Some of us live in the real world Terry, you should try it.

Posted by: Richard | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

This is a typical biased news apology!

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

The only reason that the far left media covered the prosecutorial misconduct of this case was that they couldn’t avoid it. This case was only picked up by the media because it involved white men assaulting a black woman. When it all turned out to be a hoax, you knew that you couldn’t just drop the coverage. Your audiences would have been outraged. So don’t act like there has been some favor done to these boys by the media covering their persecution. You were only looking to be on top the the story of their demise.

Posted by: Jason | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

The Liberal press at work again.

Posted by: Phil V. | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

They didn’t get off because of their money, Terry. They got off because they were innocent along with the fact that people like YOU and the news organization you worked for over-sensationalized the case before you had all of the facts.
That allowed the light of day to shine in exposing the case for what it was: A sham. And money couldn’t buy that.
So don’t try to wash your dirty hands. And don’t try to take any credit, either. From reading your idiotic, pathetic little editorial, your only regret is that they really were innocent which made you guys look like morons.
I used to just think that you were a fool, Terry. Now I know that you are.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Terry Moran is will never read one of your columns again. It was painful to read such a disturbing article! Wow! Disturbing on so many levels!!

Posted by: Ann Carmichael | April 13, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Terry,
You strike me as a completely shallow individual which may be even more tragic than the injustice these young men have experienced.
Some food for thought…Maybe you should spend some time self reflecting before making judgment calls on individuals you’ve never even met.

Posted by: Baja Bryan | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

drivel.
Go out there and cover prosecutorial misconduct. Whining about un reported cases of abuse serves no one.

Posted by: Keith | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Here we go again! So now the crime is not that they were wrongly accussed but their crime is being white and rich!!. You are pathetic.Stick to the facts as good journalists are suppose to do. The system abused both parties, think about how hard would be for any woman to report a rape case now. Why didn’t you look into that instead of accusing this men of being somehting that they can’t change, white?

Posted by: viv | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Well now, Terry, how self-righteous of you. It is truly unfortunate that you, just because of the color of your skin, have to be associated with crude, rich white bullies like these men. I’m sure you’ve never been to a batchelor party where (gasp) drinking and female dancing were involved. Underage consumption of alcohol?! What is this world coming to? And I’m sure you’ve never had a friend who was accused (double gasp) of a crime or misdemeanor. It goes without saying that, ever since day one, you’ve never, ever made an off-color comment or remark, right?
Shame on these priviledged boys. Their parents should donate all of their millions (they must be rich after all, right Terry?) to the ACLU and send them to a good state school.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Wow. The entire liberal media mindset, neatly encapsulated in one blog post.
This sort of thing is EXACTLY why people are turning away from mainstream media in droves.
Only one question: If there are so many cases of innocent, poor minorities being unjustly attacked by vicious, rogue prosecutors–and if those cases are going unreported–why aren’t YOU covering them, Mr. Terry Moran of ABC News?

Posted by: Tim Jones | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

You are an idiot

Posted by: Snow | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Terry Moran has some “class-envy” issues, BIG TIME. His network and media counterparts benefitted from inflating this controversy– esentially trying these college guys in the electronic spectrum with the design to drive ratings. Shame on Mr. Moran for not being lacking journalistic integrity.

Posted by: Boo Radley | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

another stupid comment from a stupid liberal journalist

Posted by: robert apodaca | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Wow! Can you BE any more jealous!
Thank God they had the resources, they deserve any type of restituion they can get!
Hope YOU don’t ever get hit unjustly with charges of plagarism, and if you do we won’t feel sorry for you because you have the money to defend yourself. You are really stupid

Posted by: Judy Spellman | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

You know, Terry, when it comes to bigotry, you make Imus look like a choir boy! Your attitude is sickening, and typical of a medium which always looks to tear down – something good has happened, oh no, how can I restore balance in the universe? There are not words to describe how out of touch you are with the rest of country, Terry, but your writing is very, very wrong.

Posted by: Blue Grass Tom | April 13, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Is there anyone more “privileged” than a pretty boy being paid millions to pose as a Washington network TV “journalist”?

Posted by: MAC | April 13, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Hey Terry,
I’ll bet if your son was accused of a crime he did not commit you would be on the phone with all of your social and work contacts and connections trying to get him off the hook. To suggest that these young men are less deserving of our sympathy because of their station in life is reprehensible on your part and hypocritical.

Posted by: Jack Sherman | April 13, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

To the liberal media (and hollywood), only minorities can be victims. Terry Moran is closed minded rich white boy, so I hope he never gets into trouble because he will never be viewed as a victim by his fellow elites.

Posted by: Doug | April 13, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

it appears that the liberal media is disappointed they weren’t convicted. The media owes an appology to these 3 young men. Since when is it a crime to be successful

Posted by: Kevin Hansen | April 13, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Please don’t tell me there is not a media bias, one need look no further then this blog on a major news network website. How many of us believe that this guy’s obvious “Impartiality” doesn’t effect his reporting? Wake up people can’t you see what is going on?

Posted by: Jan | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Your column reflects an arrogance virtually beyond human comprehension. By your words, you have become the poster child of why the major media is facing an unabated crescendo of national shame, dishonor and worthlessness.

Posted by: George H. Scott | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

“And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both.”
If it’s true that the media doesn’t cover these cases then how does Terry Moran know they occur? How does he know how much money the alleged victims make or what color their skin is? Oh that’s right, he lying. Nevermind then.

Posted by: raoul | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

“had a rough year?” – are you serious? That fact of the matter is that these guys will always be stigmatized by the association with this rape case. What they were doing the night of the party (what guy hasn’t seen a stripper), who there parents are, etc, has absolutley no relevance.

Posted by: mike | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

“Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.”
So, now we’ve gotten to the point where it is even wrong be biased in what ethnicity we prefer to “entertain” us?
Want another story for your “reporting”? Why don’t you scour the personal ads for all the racist individuals seeking SWF or SWM (when, of course, they should be seeking SF or SM)?

Posted by: JC | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Terry Moran could not have written a more uninformed essay if he tried. What a total lack of understanding of how the legal system is supposed to function compared to popular opinion.

Posted by: Paul Grasmere | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Hey Terry, they misspelled your name. It is correctly spelled M-o-r-o-n. You need to correct your blog.
I can’t imagine an intelligent person suggesting that we shouldn’t feel “too sorry” by people who were getting railroaded by the state. If this case was prosecuted and they were found guilty, they would have to register as sex offenders FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES! Yup, an intelligent person wouldn’t have formulated your opinion. I guess that’s why your last name is Moron!

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

I was by no means a college athlete, but I can say that my college career consisted of much worse things than these guys stripper party. I agree 100% with the person that says, either they did something illegal, or they didn’t. The fact of the matter is, it is legal to hire strippers, hurl racial slurs, or whatever. You may not agree with it, but that doesn’t make these guys criminals, and more so, rapists. The fact that the guy was arrested before has absolutely no bearing on this matter. Would you like everyone to bring up every mistake you ever made in your life every time you screwed up? He paid his dues via restitution, community service, and possibly jail time so leave this out of it. And while you are at it, see if you can find Al Sharpton to apologize for making false accusations against these guys. I hope these guys find a way to sue him for doing so.

Posted by: Billy | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

First time to read one of your columns—and will be the last. I read liberal articles frequently to stay abreast of the real threat to our country and it’s value. But in the future I’ll pass on yours due to your clear display of your lack of intelligence. I don’t read the dribble of idiots, at least not twice

Posted by: Larry in Seattle | April 13, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

MORAN = MORON

Posted by: slick | April 13, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am

“Moron”, a psychology-related term for a person with a genetically determined mental age between 8 and 12.
Yup i’d say that about covers it.

Posted by: justice truthios | April 13, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Wrong is wrong and innocent is innocent no matter what color or how wealthy the person is. The fact is if these guys hadn’t had the money to defend themselves they would’ve been convicted. Too many men with lesser means are in jail with false charges. That doesn’t mean the Duke guys should go to jail because they’re rich and white. The operative words are “false accusations.” We need to vigorously prosecute those who make false charges and do so with great publicity.

Posted by: Gil Polanco | April 13, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am

My My… Sounds like a bad case of class envy. Because these young men were born into money and are white, it’s okay to falsely accuse them of some of the most heinous crimes imaginable? “Where do I go to get my good name back?” Your intellectual dishonesty for the sake of worshipping at the altar of liberalism should suprise me — but it doesn’t.

Posted by: Raoul Duke | April 13, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Typical from our Liberal Media. Don’t feel bad that 3 innocent men had to spend 3m for a crime they didn’t commit.
This is why ABC, NBC, CBS news are in the tank, because of stupid reporters like this one…

Posted by: Cliff | April 13, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Innocent until proven guilty moron. It isn’t “guilty until proven innocent” or as you are stating “guilty due to whatever you consider evidence.”

Posted by: matt | April 13, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Moran’s another pompous ass.

Posted by: Jack | April 13, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Mr. Moran is as big a fool as is Don Imus. He just cleaned up the language.

Posted by: ed | April 13, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am

pathetic. this is why i never went into journalism after i got the degree . . . too many envious socialists jealous of the rest of the world (aka those with real jobs, paying real money, living real lives).
alas, no one would likely see this drivel if it hadn’t been linked to on drudge. but always nice to remind ourselves what the rejects are thinking. wait, the rejects “feel” things, no “thinking” involved. thanks for nothing, bud.

Posted by: clyde | April 13, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am

I should have added that I am a white, Republican woman. I hate the liberal media. I linked to this page from Drudge. I hate the liberal media. I hate hypocrisy and injustice even more. I applaud those who point it out. thank you, Terry.

Posted by: S | April 13, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Why do you assume that the women of the Rutgers basketball team are situated differently in life from the Duke lacrosse players?
Because most of them are black?
So there is no possibility that one or more of them could be “affluent” or have “connections”?
How racist!

Posted by: Roy | April 13, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

ABC News had these boys tried and convicted before any evidence was presented. You did this because the story fit your world view so perfectly – “Rich southern white boys rape and abuse poor black girl who must support herself working as a stripper – er, exotic dancer”. And now that the truth has slowly revealed itself over the last few months – in spite of your best efforts to obscure it – have you done any self-analysis Mr. Moran?
Prejudice has a large wardrobe, sir. Sometimes he wears a white pointed hat and sometimes he wears Brooks Brothers.
Shame on you.

Posted by: Fred | April 13, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Terry Moran is a jerk. Plain and simple. Another example of the bitter liberal MSM these days. I think everyone should contact ABC and express their outrage. Maybe they’ll give him the boot like CBS did with Imus.

Posted by: Mindy | April 13, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

I think they misspelled Terrys’ name. Isn’t it Terry Moron?

Posted by: Alan D | April 13, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

This artical saddens me, down to the core. How can anyone’s comments above mine even remotely defend this awful message? Not feeling pitty for someone who has gone though something so awful, is wrong…

Posted by: Aaron | April 13, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Maybe ABC should Fire You for your comments.!

Posted by: Beth | April 13, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Leftist to the very end. No matter what the circumstances, the liberal media always finds a way to trash white America. I find this article disgusting!

Posted by: Craig | April 13, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

You refuse to feel sorry for these innocent men but you still defend and glorify the legacy of Bill Clinton. Just more liberal bias from a liberal reporter and a liberal news outlet.

Posted by: Jerry | April 13, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Wow Terry, you’re a complete idiot. Don’t feel sorry for some young men falsely accused of rape? It’s amazing you actually work for ABC.

Posted by: Shook | April 13, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

this is the liberal media for you…the Duke NON rappers have money so they KINDA deserve it. IT’s disgusting!

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Sounds like Moran is offended by his ideology being caught out in the open. Instead of the wrongfully accused having to shell out two million dollars to defend themselves against the State, they are “fortunate” to do so.

Posted by: james wilson | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

I agree with you. This sort of thing happens everyday day in America. No it is not right, but it happens. Mostly to poor and minorities. The young men will be ok in the long run. America has a 10 minute memory span and as they say…this too shall pass.

Posted by: N Marie | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Comforting to see that hatred and disparagement of people based on their race and social status is alive and well at ABC News.

Posted by: F451 | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Terry Moran is from the streets, his life must have been some struggle to speak so truthfully of the priviliged life of Duke students.

Posted by: MattL | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

At least I know the next person to get fired…you!

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

If the Duke players were black and they were falsely accused of rape by a white woman, I’m sure this liberal puke would cry his eyes out and scream racism.
Double standards.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

I am disgusted by the views of Terry Moran. We have college age children who play lacrosse and keep good grades. They work hard on and off the field. We work hard to support our family. If one of my sons had been accused of a crime for which there was no proof and had a prison sentence hanging over him, I would have been sick every day.
Now, it is a negative to be white, work hard and not be poor.

Posted by: Jane | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

What an absolute crock. Are you kidding me…….”there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”
Well, seeing that every reporter in the country had convicted these kids without a shred of evidence i should hope they cover their mistakes. Get a clue man!!!! I am shocked someone actually allowed this article to be published.

Posted by: BC | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Terry Moran, Moron, whatever – this piece exemplifies what ails journalism today: a muddled outlook, confused, relativistic morality, and perhaps sour grapes that the “privileged students” didn’t take a greater beating than merely facing 20 years in prison. The falsely accused cannot be given adequate sympathy, nor can the false accuser receive adequate denouncement for her attempt at exploitation and her rabid racism. T. Moron’s desperation is revealed by his having to point up the Finnerty assault charges of 2005. So what? Note that he was unable to say “assault conviction.” That beedy-eyed journalist should desist from pointless articles such as these.

Posted by: Al Sharpman | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

are you for real, their reputations were nearly ruined and they were dragged through the mud? Who should we feel sorry for? The liar who brought charges and perhaps the troublemakers Sharpton and Jacksonwho came to her defense in spite of the ever changing storiesd?

Posted by: carol | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Gee Terry, a bit bitter today, are we?
By the way, I loved the brief comparison of these three guys to the Rutgers women’s basketball team. Clearly, being insulted by a grumpy old coot behind a radio mic is a much more serious and potentially damaging life event than, say, something as trivial as being wrongfully charged with rape and having an abusive prosecutor make it his life’s mission to put you behind bars for 20 years.

Posted by: Derek | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Wow! Terry (objective reporter) Moran is sooooo right. FOrget that these young men almost lost everything. They should be charged with crimes they did not commit because they were college boys who (gasp) drank, had parties and hired (albeit) trashy entertainment for a frat-like party. Never mind that the accuser is a atroubled young woman; never mind that there was no evidence at all; never mind that the DA was NUTS; it is more important to indict the young men because they were white boys from nice families who played a fancy lawn game. Your wisdom is breathtaking. Mr Moran, you are either stupid or think your audience is stupid…maybe both. Hmmm

Posted by: Jules | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

A grave injustice was done these young men. They deserve sympathy for the horrible ordeal they went through because of another’s lies.
Anybody, white, black, rich, poor, who suffers such injustice deserves sympathy.

Posted by: scott | April 13, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Your article and premise are both disgraceful. I hope for your sake you are never on the receiving end of this kind of treatment.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Oops! If they didn’t have high priced lawyers they would probably be serving jail time. Oops! Didn’t they have to leave school, and their scholarships, behind? Oops! Being falsely accused in major newspapers and by scores of Duke professors, and the strain of these accusations on their families. . . nah, don’t feel bad for them at all. At least they have learned what a bunch of imbeciles the world is filled with.

Posted by: Seth | April 13, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Lady Justice is blind, remember. Either Guilty or Innocent based on the evidence, which, in this case, there was none! Your lack of compassion is truely one sided.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

The LIBERAL media at its best. I more reason the 3 networks are in big trouble.

Posted by: Jo | April 13, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

I am white and not rich, but if my son, who is a good athlete and student, does NOT receive a scholarship from a prestigious university like Duke, and he still is accepted to such a school, then I will put myself in debt to send him there. After which, I will WORK to pay off that debt. The American dream is available to anyone who wants it regardless of race or finance. Well, maybe not Duke since the professors there sold out those boys before the facts were out, but I hope you get my point. Effort is the key to the American Dream.

Posted by: blame hofmann | April 13, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Your article in your mind was politically correct, but missed the facts of life. These young men lived the lives of hell for as year because of the MSN and you polish it off as just another event to glorify. Maybe this would not have been such a big event in your life if it hasdn’t been a case of black and white!

Posted by: Robert Sybrandt | April 13, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Hey Terry,
Let’s not forget the media’s role in all this. These “well-publicized” (as if they wanted it) young men were sought after by you media sharks like chum in the water – precisely because of the racial/class aspect of the accusation. Poor single mom black stripper raped by white and “well-heeled”, “well-connected” Duke lacrosse players. You all are in the business of victimization and it back-fired on you this time. Do you ever ask yourselves what good you are doing anyone? Do you think the Rutgers players had ever heard of Don Imus? Are they better off now for knowing who he is and what he said about them? I doubt it. Nifong isn’t the only one who will be judged.

Posted by: Western | April 13, 2007, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Please… regardless of the circumstances it reverts back to the fact that a prosecutor can get a group of people without a life called a “grand jury” to “indict a ham sandwich” and that prosecutor has imunity for their actions if they are wrong. As soon as our system requires the loser to pay in both civil and criminal actions then we will see fairness or something like it. Only cases with actual merit will come before the bar. But as the old country philosopher would say: “if everyone did the right thing, then there would be no need for cops, lawyers, judges, and priests” Just hope that a prosecutor somewhere doesnt’ decide to bring you before the grand jury one day. Unless you have lots of cash.

Posted by: Ed | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

As you reduce your sympathy for these innocent men because they come from intact, hard-working, oops, I mean rich, priviledged families, please remember that they were targeted for the accusation BECAUSE of their status. Remember the accuser was quoted at her place of employement (a strip club) telling others she was going to “get money from the white boys.” So they get it from both ends for their sins of wealth and status.

Posted by: Mikey | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Nifong is an idiot. The players were idiots. So were the parents who allow their kids to act like morons with their money. So it cost them a few hundred thou to get the charges dismissed? So what! If they were poor they’d be rotting in jail. Just like for the rest of their lives, daddy’s deep pockets will save them. Consider the money spent a down payment on the rest of their lives.

Posted by: froggydog | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Typical Drive-By-Media hit job…Why don’t you, Sharpton, and Jackson please leave this country and take your insipid logic somewhere else.

Posted by: Michael Hamilton | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Just read this twice. Then remember exactly what Mr. Moran idea is about facts and truths when you watch ABC news and who victims are. This is just an attempt to excuse his reporting on this case over the last year.
Remember this article everytime you watch ABC now with Mr. Moran reporting, because it shows exactly what his idea is on the facts and truths and how he reports them.

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Wow. Talk about totally missing the point.

Posted by: JD | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Are you sure your name isn’t Terry Moron?

Posted by: Don | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

These three players will never truly get their innocence reclaimed.. because people like Al Sharpton, who falsely railed the three players before they were PROVEN GUILTY, and Jesse Jackson, who presumptuously offered to pay for the stripper’s college fees ASSUMING THAT SHE WAS ACTUALLY RAPED, wouldn’t have done the same had it been a white stripper who, falsely or not, accused three black athletes of raping her. Racism is raging in this country, and it’s a force that can’t be stopped. People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are the reason why racism is such a driving force in this country TO THIS DAY. Deal with it. You’ve all made this bed, and it’s everyone’s time to sleep in it. Get over it.

Posted by: Peyton | April 13, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

I loved Terry’s comment that “the team specifically requested atleast one white stripper” – I don’t really see how that is wrong. Even if you apply affirmative action formulas, these guys are okay – since I’d imagine probably 50% of the population in their area is white? Or would Terry suggest that they have gotten someone of mixed ethnicity so that all races were represented and some insightful reporter didn’t have to smugly point out their audacity. Its almost funny except for the fact that this is ABCNEWS’ frontline reporter.

Posted by: JJ | April 13, 2007, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Unbelievable!

Posted by: Jami | April 13, 2007, 10:52 am 10:52 am

NEWS FLASH!…. Duke lacrosse players violently raped by the liberal press corp! Victims photos splashed all over news! Personal character publically defamed! Living through emotional hell!
UPDATE… uh, nevermind. Hey, c’mon–they’re all rich, white kids–they’ll get over it. No big deal.

Posted by: becky c | April 13, 2007, 10:52 am 10:52 am

You are a complete idiot.

Posted by: Joe Tignor | April 13, 2007, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Terry Moron, you really are a putz.

Posted by: Robert Fine | April 13, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am

How sad and pathetic it is to not feel sympathy and actually find ways to criticize these guys after being labeled rapists and persecuted for a year.
Your liberal blinders are showing, as is your bias. I’m sure your colleagues feel the same way, and that’s what’s so scary.

Posted by: Stephen A. | April 13, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am

You abuse your power with this column. Don’t feel too sorry for the dukies? Is this the best you can do? The story is almost over- except for any future lawsuits against the DA and with columns like this one, the media. You would serve america far better by redirecting your righteousness towards simply reporting on the next story instead of casting judgement on your subject.
Truly dissappointing. Columns like this are why we stop reading.

Posted by: James Cleelum | April 13, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am

You are right, this case just highlights how justice is qualified in this country by financial wherewithal. Though you are correct, it does not in my opinion, make it any less of a miscarriage of justice for these young men than it does for an illiterate who has sat on death row innocent. The public’s end of the legal system is broken, if it ever worked, which a quick look at history in America will show it hasn’t always. These young men are nothing to celebrate and yes they will go on with a privileged life, but our system will stumble on also and the best thing we can do is highlight the impropriety and work patiently towards justice for all regardless of race or finance.

Posted by: jim | April 13, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am

What planet are you living on?It was a pandering for the black vote that was the catalyst for this incredible injustice to begin with, and it is contemp by publication by people like you that encourages this outrageous double standerd. Martin Luther King wanted a “color blind” society. Guys like Sharpton, Jackson and you look to division as a way of life.Shame on you and your ilk.

Posted by: Dick Bolduc | April 13, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Okay Terry, I’ll listen to you (after all, you’re a member of the media, so you can tell me what to do).
No sympathy for the “Dukies”.
But I’ll remeber to have none for you if you’re ever charged or sued because of who you are.
After all, you look like you make some decent money.
You can afford to defend yourself.

Posted by: LP Beron | April 13, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Yes, let us not feel sorry for them because they come from a family with resources (meaning they got an education and worked hard, contributing to society all their lives) and are able to send their kids to a descent school. They do not deserve pity because they have more money than me (or maybe they just worked harder in life than me…could that be it?) Yeah, screw the rich – they probably deserve it.

Posted by: D. Andrew | April 13, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am

You sound like the majority of your brothers and sisters in the media, arrogant and shallow-thinking. To follow your reasoning: because we can’t do anything about all the cases of prosucatorial misconduct, we shouldn’t do anything about the cases we can do something about (particularly if the accused have the financial means to fight it). Sorry, we forgot that justice is supposed to be blind.

Posted by: Jan | April 13, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Terry, I think the message from the above respondants is clear: Think before you write.

Posted by: Dan | April 13, 2007, 10:55 am 10:55 am

You are an outrage and should be fired.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 10:55 am 10:55 am

This post just goes to show how out of touch with america the modern media is. You can stop a GIANT CORPORATION like this one from spreading lies.

Posted by: JOhn | April 13, 2007, 10:55 am 10:55 am

This article is an absolute disgrace. There is absolutely no comparison between what the basketball players at Rutgers endured (verbal insults) versus what the Duke players endured (wanted posters signed by their own professors, protests by their classmates, accusations of gang rape, kidnapping, and sexual assault, and the prospect of spending the rest of their lives in jail). No, these young men have not led perfect lives, but it’s pathetic that a professional journalist can get away with writing garbage like this.

Posted by: George L | April 13, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am

I always suspected that this is the kind of twisted logic that goes on inside reporters heads.

Posted by: Ehi Passika | April 13, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am

What an ignorant statement that we shouldn’t feel sorry for them because they could retain high priced lawyers. What you fail to recognize is that if they couldn’t retain these lawyers they could be in jail for 30 years. But I guess that is ok because they are “privelaged.” So if you have money, you’re white and go to Duke its ok for the system to completely stomp all over you for purely political motives. What a great world we live in.

Posted by: TRB | April 13, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am

What kind of a fool are you Moran? One of those families lost their entire life savings trying to defend their son. Arrogant uninformed people like you are the reasons the networks are losing their viewers. Judging by your post, I am sure you enjoyed the whole process as you watched these people suffer. I guess in your eyes it is wrong for kids to excell and get into Duke. Have parents who have done well and can afford lawyers. I am waiting for your post about the 80 Duke Profs who proclaimed their guilt and your condemnation of Sharpton, Ja ckson and the other race baiters. I am sure I will never see that on your blog or a report on the networks. Why do you hate people that have done well?

Posted by: tom | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

What a horrible & distorted view of this case after these three kids nearly had their lives ruined by a false accusation. Even in vindication you want to trash them and make sure they don’t continue on with their “normal” (although wealthy — a negative in your eyes) lives. Imagine yourself having gone through what they did and then re-read your blog. You really need help if these are your true off-the-cuff thoughts.

Posted by: Sam | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

While there are many other cases prosecutorial misconduct every year, just because the Duke players are well-to-do white kids does not invalidate the fact that they went through a hellish experience. Tackling the issue of racial inequality in any facet by heaping the responsibility on the shoulders of these kids is incredibly ignorant.

Posted by: Collin | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

You know, I am so sick and tired of all of this. These guys were wrongly accused, and some of you say not to feel sorry for them, mainly because they’re white and rich! This is not about race, and it’s not about wealth. It’s about prosecutorial abuse, and it’s about fairness. These guys have gone through a nightmare, and instead of saying that somehow they did something wrong, let’s talk about what the real problem is.
Furthermore, there are a lot of caucasions who have been wrongly accused and are serving / have served prison sentences, too. You’re a fool if you make this about race. I am sick of that argument, and so is probably 90% of the USA.

Posted by: TG | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Small wonder why he major media were able to find the truth behind this case. With bias as strong as yours, one can see how easy it was for you to swallow Nifong’s story hook, line, and sinker.
I managed to work my way from poverty to a succesful life, and by your reasoning my son would deserve to be falsely accused of rape only because of my success.

Posted by: Peter | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

You’re just sore because you’ve been wrongly accused of being a journalist.

Posted by: Jack | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Terry:
What a jerk! These guys were accused of rape. They may not make the same decisions that a 40 something reporter would make but their behavior here was not that different from thos emade on college campuses all the time. But for a crazy stripper and an unscruplous DA, their conduct would not have been under this cloud, FOREVER.

Posted by: sarah jennings | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Simply put;
Constitution: Innocent until proven guilty.
Nifong & Media: Guilty until proven innocent.
Hey Rev. Sharpton please apologize for the comments you made when the media went on a feeding frenzy when this story broke. Mr. Moran, you’re nuts! Why does Disney/ABC chose to incite class warfare?

Posted by: Ken Noland | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

why are you concerned with their privileged lives? i’m sure their parents work for a living. earned what they have. that is no concern to you. if they can afford the best, then that’s anyone would do. i didn’t know it was a “privilege” to be born.

Posted by: RILEY | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Terry you are way off base. Forever, these three young men, will be referred to as those charged with rape. You just don’t get it and the comments of those who agree with you are sad.
Innocence doesn’t matter. It’s how you feel about it. Wrong is wrong and you in the newsmedia crucified these men before they were found guilty. Shame on all of you. No wonder you are no longer respected.

Posted by: Robert Dean | April 13, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Typical liberal ABC arrogance – you wrongly accuse someone of a horrible crime, are proven wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt, and still will not let it go nor will you apologize.
Shame on ABC, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the rest of the race baiting liberal bomb throwers – you are hypocritical haters and hopefully the general public has learned not to listen to the litany of lies you print daily.

Posted by: Ben | April 13, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am

This has to be the dumbest article I’ve ever read. So we should not feel sorry for these guys because they are White and go to Duke? Or because one had an assault charge in his past that has nothing to do with this case. If we every person who ever went to a stip club or watched porn on the internet was judged by this standard all of us are guilty. That is the tragedy what happend here is this article. You think there wrong even when it has been proven that were not. You’re absurd.

Posted by: Ray Bergman | April 13, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Is this a joke? After the news media tried and convicted these three gentlemen, Mr. Moran writes this tripe. ABC must have pretty low standards.

Posted by: ted | April 13, 2007, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Terry,
The problem with journalists like yourself is that you have no sense of reality. The world you live in is not real. You’re sheltered by producers, you’re under the gun to write for deadlines, your in a fast-paced job and you don’t have time to slow down, visit real people, and live a real life.
You may live in a “big city”, but it’s a very small world; like a bubble. Your viewpoint is very skewed. I sort of feel sorry for you, really. I’m a former journalist who now lives in a real world, and I’m here to tell you brother that being “politically correct” goes completely against common sense in every aspect. “Earth to Terry….Earth to Terry…..Come back to Earth….Terry.”

Posted by: Garrison | April 13, 2007, 10:59 am 10:59 am

glad someone has said it.

Posted by: z | April 13, 2007, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Watch how fast this loser flips his position and posts a follow-up entry saying how everyone “misunderstood” what he was saying. Complete garbage.

Posted by: chris | April 13, 2007, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Thank God there is FOX. Your attitude is as insulting as Don Imus’ remarks.

Posted by: Ann | April 13, 2007, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Folks, if you’ve ever wondered why reports give such easy coverage to Democrats (including Nifong) you’ve had had a look into the common mindset of the DNS and the national media. You don’t have to wonder any more.

Posted by: Radford Bunker | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

If Terry Moran’s son found himself in a similar situation, would Terry (who I assume makes a decent living) do everything he could, financially and otherwise, to clear his son’s name? I think we all know the answer.

Posted by: Geo | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Is this AMERICA? Inocent until proven guilty. If not for the drive bye media, this case would have be dismissed in 2 weeks. The drive bye mdia destroys more lifes then the war. Do I fell sorry for the media? I sure do, what a disgrace! This reporter should be fired!

Posted by: Donald | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Your last name should be Moron. You looking for a job at CBS?

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Just another reason I have not watched network news in over 10 years. By the way, what is ‘rich’?

Posted by: No More ABC | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

woah jaybird “but we must also remember that these are not upstanding individuals. They are priveleged rich men”
so according to jaybird a rich person cannot be an upstanding citizen. I guess jaybird would prefer if everyone was destitute and desperate? Is that how we define a good citizen?

Posted by: Novs | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

The predictable and craven media bias (with some notable exceptions like Ed Bradley of 60 Minutes and Peter Applebome of the NY Times) and displayed here by this guy Moran, is what drove Nifong and Duke U to do what they did to those kids. They knew MOST journalists would be ecstatic to help tar, feather and ruin the lives of a bunch of rich, drunken white jocks. This tendency towards emotive infantile journalism is why the citizenry of this country has such utter low regard for the media.

Posted by: dave | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

When a rich white girl gets raped it’s not as bad as when a poor black girl gets raped, because…uh…the rich girl has a “cushion”…uh…hmm. Mr. Moron needs to be fired. He’s white! He has a cushion! Plenty of black people have been fired in this country, and for less than making unbelievably idiotic comments! unreal.

Posted by: jeff i | April 13, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Terry-
Are you in Rosie dating? How in the world can you say that being wrongly accused of rape and having a rouge DA go after you is justified. Franky , you should be fired for this.

Posted by: Kirk Bregman | April 13, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Wow. Truly frightening take on this situation.

Posted by: Franco | April 13, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am

“…these young men will get on with their privileged lives.”
What privileges?

Posted by: woody | April 13, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am

well Terry, since you are in the media, perhaps your career should be now motivated to expose those who have been cheated by the justice system……
..Oh, that’s not a good career move? Then shut up.
I don’t believe some of the crap I’m reading here. If this is truly the thoughts of the country, it’s over folks… we’re done.

Posted by: sumo | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Advice to college boys, if you want to see a stripper, take a cab to a strip club.

Posted by: Richard | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Liberal do-gooder

Posted by: Joseph Spammolino | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Wow. Let’s write a disgraceful article to stand out from the rest of the crowd of journalists who jumped on a fantastical story and condemned three innocent people, yet don’t want to simply do the right thing and just say sorry. Be a man and admit you were wrong – don’t continue to make it worse. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Posted by: Please | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

You are full of it buddy. There is no excuse for your article. Pathetic!!!

Posted by: DSS | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Terry you are way off base. Forever, these three young men, will be referred to as those charged with rape. You just don’t get it and the comments of those who agree with you are sad.
Innocence doesn’t matter. It’s how you feel about it. Wrong is wrong and you in the newsmedia crucified these men before they were found guilty. Shame on all of you. No wonder you are no longer respected.

Posted by: Robert Dean | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Don’t feel sorry for them because they are rich? Are you kidding me? Nobody needs to be falsley accused of rape, their names have been tarnished despite the fact the charges have been dropped.
This class envy has got to stop. What Nifong did was horrible, he should lose his job.

Posted by: bbc | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

“these young men will get on with their privileged lives.” This is typical of Moran’s mindset and typical of the media’s take on this case. The “Dukies” were guilty and subsequently had to prove their innocence to the elite media. Don’t feel sorry for them because they have such privileged lives. As others have said, I hope Mr. Moran never has to endure this type of “privilege!”

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Yes, I do feel sorry for these fine young men.But Mr. Moran I feel more sorrow for you. What kind of objective journalist are you? Just report and leave the subjective nonsence out.

Posted by: Nancy | April 13, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

You are really sick.

Posted by: Anne | April 13, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Don’t hate the Rich Admire them

Posted by: Ronnie Barajas | April 13, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Your perspective is totally out of whack.

Posted by: Fred | April 13, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Mr. Moran,
It sounds like your real problem with these young men is that they were “rich.” Since when is saving money so that your children can go to the college of their choice a crime? Perhaps some of the parents had to take out loans to pay for the legal fees. Don’t assume you know so much about the families and their personal finances, and then judge them. Lets not forget that many people work for what they have, and spending it on their childrens’ education is not wrong.

Posted by: Jennifer | April 13, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Lets not let the facts get in the way of liberalism
Sounds like you’re trying to cover your butts after all of you at this network had these kids convicted before the sun came up the next morning. I’d bet if it were you or your children in their shoes your opinion would be different

Posted by: Elias | April 13, 2007, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Terry’s article is precisely the reason that I no longer watch network TV news. Moron! What will it take to rid us of these MSM news clowns?
If this had not been posted on the Drudge Report it would have gone without notice, as it deserves.

Posted by: George | April 13, 2007, 11:04 am 11:04 am

I’m wondering why no one is focusing on one other issue that drove the case. How much did Sharpton and Jackson play in the overzealousness of the prosecutor? Was he afraid of being branded racist if he did not pursue the case vigorously? Where are the apologizes from Jackson and Sharpton? As I recall Sharpton never apologized over his false Tawana Brawley accusations either? These guys drive the racist nail in the coffin, then just, when they are proven wrong, brush off their hands and walk away scot free. There is a rush to judgement that everyone is afraid to touch.

Posted by: Ed | April 13, 2007, 11:04 am 11:04 am

You are a complete whackjob. You say don’t feel sorry for people who got wrongly accused of rape, but do feel sorry for some basketball players that got called a stupid name? Get a grip on reality. This exact article is why people don’t watch the mainstream news anymore.

Posted by: Ben | April 13, 2007, 11:04 am 11:04 am

It’s pretty obvious that the new burr in the butt of many in this country is not race, but class. In this era of political correctness, it is now a sin to be financially successful. There is a presumption of some type of wrongdoing or taking advantage of others in acquiring wealth, and a deep resentment of many in this country of those that have attained financial success, even if the successful individual has worked their butt off, educated themselves, and worked hard to attain their success. This country is going down the toilet because of how we have institutionalized mediocrity and tolerated the excuses of the underachievers.

Posted by: jackson simpson | April 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

So, by your logic we should not have sympathy for white males as long as there is injustice in the world…Are you evil or stupid? There can be no other explanation.

Posted by: NotsoRich | April 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Is it Moran or Moron?

Posted by: PTG | April 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Mr. Moran, you are helping to make television newscasting irrelevant. If your bosses read this post and still keep you employed, they are either idealogical allies of yours or they are delusional to think that you are in any way objective. Either way, your comments reinforce my conviction that TV news is simply the white noise that the elderly listen to as they prepare for their 8 pm bed time.

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

I think it is terrible that anyone should feel as you feel. I always learned two wrongs don’t make a right. However, in your mind it was OK for these kids to pay for prior injustices and you have no sympathy for them. I think we spend too much time looking at generalities and not enough time on specific people. Forget everything else in the past, you should feel sorry for those kids, and you should be embarrased about this column

Posted by: ads | April 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

The media rushed to convict these men before there was any evidence. What difference does their race, gender, social class, or Terry’s opinion of their character make. These men were falsely accused of a very serious crime.

Posted by: tom | April 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

“MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”
Do the right thing, Terry, take the lead and start exposing the misconduct regularly. It’ll improve our trial system and help prevent wasting money. The ongoing failures of America’s news media isn’t an excuse for a reporter’s lack of effort. Don’t waste time with frivelous opinions and hop to it.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Dear Sir,
Are we living on the same planet? Have you no shame whatsoever? The Duke students were innocent and did nothing illegal. They were wrongly accused and then subjected to an out of control DA trying to make political points. For you to say that the Duke lacrosse players are at fault for this miscarriage of justice is bordering on insanity. Nifong should be disbarred and then sued to recover the costs of their defense. Unfortunately, the reputation of each of these kids can never be recovered. Shame on you and your inane, leftist, collectivist, sock it to the rich, mentality.

Posted by: Ted Graser | April 13, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am

You got to be kidding me! Reckless journalism at its finest.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Mr. Moran,
You posting such drivel says a lot about mainstream media and your knowledge of ordinary informed Americans.

Posted by: Gene Herbert | April 13, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Terry you are a real piece of work. It is because of you and your colleagues that these kids should be pitied they were tried and convicted by the media. You didn’t call Nifong what he was. These kids were drug threw the mud…for nothing! And to say that we shouldn’t feel sorry Colin Finnerty because he was charged with assault…was he convicted??? I wonder if you explored the criminal past of each female rutgers basketball player what would turn up! Should we not feel sorry for them because of any mistakes they made in the past? Terry you are illogical.

Posted by: Jon | April 13, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am

If not for DRUDGE, I wouldn’t have found your inane blog. Hopefully, it and you disappear! Glad to see the outpouring of sensible responses to your dribble.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am

You’re an idiot! I don’t care who in America gets wrongly accused we should feel sorry for them and demand justice. Just because these kids were white middle class kids doesn’t make it any less of an injustice. Get off your soap box moron!

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am

I knew the liberal press would get its pound of flesh and that their being cleared would be the cause for more media lies, slander, and insult. It is their rotten little way of trying to “smooth over” all their previous l;ies and hysteria about the case.

Posted by: Deacon John M. Bresnahan | April 13, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Terry Moron is a prime example of the disconnect between the media and the rest of the country. He argues that yes the players were wronged, but not wronged enough. But lower their family incomes and change their skin color and then he would be sympathetic. Objectivity is an endangered species in mainstream media. The field is full of people like this Moron guy who frame stories to suit their own aims.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am

What I see are young men engaging in high risk behavior. A stripper lies to make money…are we shocked?
And a young woman engaging in high risk behavior…(if it were true)…the men who hire you and ask you to come to a private home with dozens of drunken men…MIGHT be dangerous.
Well, what a surprise. Trouble. Didn’t anyone learn ANYTHING from Kobe Bryant.

Posted by: Cassie | April 13, 2007, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Being “privileged rich men” is not a crime. Some of you sick people seem to think they deserved all of this just for being rich. What is wrong with all of you? Nobody should have to endure such a long, protracted legal nightmare for something they didn’t do at the hands of corrupt prosecutors.

Posted by: JM | April 13, 2007, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Everyone should contact ABC and start a campaign to get Terry Moran fired. We’re all so sick and tired of the double standards and selective outrage in the media. This to me is a much bigger deal than the Imus controversy. Fire Moran now!!!

Posted by: Mindy | April 13, 2007, 11:08 am 11:08 am

We spend countless hours dedicated to the goal that no person who is charged with a crime is judged due to gender, race or economic background. Is the ascertion that the vindication of these men would be more valid if they were underprivileged minorities? Terry states that they benefited from the extremely high profile of the case. However, it is not noted that The likes of Mr. Nifong and Rev. Sharpton, the news media, are the primary causes of this.

Posted by: Casey A. | April 13, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am

What in the world is wrong with you? How could you sit there and say don’t feel sorry for them because they had the financial wherewithal to fight off an unjust accusation? How are they ever going to shake off the fact that their names were dragged through the mud by the college they attended, the residents of the city, the media and a great deal of the country for something they never did?
There is no amount of money that will restore to them their academic and athletic careers in college. And what does having money have to do with justice? It actually seems to have been a prejudice such as yours (i.e. against rich white college kids) that helped fuel the unjustified anger and nationwide outrage against these victims of an unfair accusation.

Posted by: Tom Phillips | April 13, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Nonsense.

Posted by: Steve Chambers | April 13, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am

I must have missed the part where the Duke players asked for the media attention.
Or was it that the media saw an opportunity to exploit race and sex for a big story, resulting in their names being in the headlines almost every day last year? The players deserve the media’s apology right now, no matter how immature they may have been acting.

Posted by: Frank | April 13, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am

I feel sorry for you. You and everyone influenced by the hypocrisy and bigotry spewed by psuedo Rev.s Sharpton and Jackson.
You Mr. Moran, Mr. Jackson, and Mr. Sharpton, are but a few of the people with access to a public forum, who chose to disparage these three young people who have been found guilty of no crime.
Shame on you and ABC

Posted by: DH | April 13, 2007, 11:10 am 11:10 am

ABCNEWS should fire Terry Moran for this hate-filled, classist diatribe! Why Terry hates these three young men is something that he should explain. Did Terry have to go to a public university or did his parents have to struggle to pay for his education? Where does the basis of Terry Moran’s hate for white, private school educated people come from?

Posted by: Willy | April 13, 2007, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Wow…I guess it is okay for white boys to be wrongly accused…rich, whites boy to boot. Terry is upset because once again it is shown that a degree in journalism is a degree in nothing.

Posted by: Larry T | April 13, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am

For those who feel that the Duke students contributed to the situation by engaging in unacceptable behavior, remember not all of the accused were even at the event in question.

Posted by: Bart Siegel | April 13, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Dude, get a grip. Just because these guys had the finanical means to defend themselves and the media happened to break itself away from its relentless persecution of the Bush administration and pick up this story, “don’t feel too sorry for the Dukies” This column is reckless and flippant. There should be equal representation for all, don’t distinguish these guys just because they had favorable variables. This is why the former mainstream media is losing its credability.

Posted by: djc | April 13, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Do you really think that drinking and partying with strippers is uncommon at college parties? The Lacrose team behaved in the same manner that most college students have for decades. They got screwed plan and simple. drnking beer and watching strippers isn’t against the law and is completely irrelevant.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Convicted by the press and Duke University of rape without evidence and Moran thanks it no big deal! What an idiot!!!

Posted by: Fred | April 13, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am

You just gave me another reason not to read or believe anything you say or write. Bye, bye.

Posted by: Bob H. | April 13, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Terry, you make my blood boil! Trying to divide people by rich and poor..black against white. The rich are alway wrong and the poor are always right…blacks never get fair treatment and whites always do….in your mind anyway. People are individuals and should be treated as such. The Duke boys are decent young men and deserve our sympathy. Nifong
deserves to lose his job…and you should be ashamed of yourself!

Posted by: C.Conner | April 13, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am

It’s comments like Terry’s that perpetuate race and class differences in this country. The facts are that the woman lied and the DA indicted unjustly. What does it matter if they are rich and white? Is justice only for the middle class, the poor, or the minorities of this country? If you reverse his comments and apply them to a generic poor black man Terry sounds awfully racist. He may as well have said, “I don’t feel sorry for the black man because he had a child out of wedlock and a prior marijuana posssesion charge. So even if he was falsely accused and indicted I have no empathy for him.” In today’s world of “free speech” [read Don Imus] it’s amazing what some people can get away with saying and others get fired for.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am

ABC you should be ashamed of yourselves. These men have been put through a year of hell! You are the worst kind of hypocrites!!

Posted by: T Smith | April 13, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am

You are such a bleeding heart liberal!

Posted by: Patrick | April 13, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

I don’t think the Duke players are asking for sympathy. Their honrable reply to the dropping of the charges talks about injustice and flaws in the legal system. Are they privileged? Their parents have worked hard to get where they are unlike Mr Moran who gets paid an exhorbitant amount of money to spout his opinions on national television. I wish I could get paid millions to tell people what I think. I think someone else said that injustice is injustice is injustice regarless or color, nationality, religion, or sex.

Posted by: C | April 13, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

As an afluent white American I am personally affronted by your thoughtless article. You know why I worked hard to become affluent? So I can take care of my family, just as these young mens family have. So they hired a stripper, are you telling me that means they have whatever is coming to them? I guess you’ve never put a dollar in a G string? Give me a break. No one buys your sorry article and that is why , and the main stream media continues to dive in ratings. Good luck with your style of reporting, you’ll need it!! LOL!!

Posted by: Steve R | April 13, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Oh, that is perfectly fine, Mr. Moran. I fully agree with your premise.
Now, I am free to not feel sorry for poor, uneducated, black men falsely accused of raping a white woman…
Thanks again for the moral compass, ABC!

Posted by: Sinanju | April 13, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Terry, your comments regarding the Duke Lacrosse players has to be among the most moronic that I’ve ever heard. An injustice is an injustice, REGARDLESS of someone’s wealth or social status. Your lame attempt at class warfare is pathetic.

Posted by: Glenn Smith | April 13, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

This is another case of wealth envy and, from many of the other posts, another way to pull race into the equation. What a sorry and pathetic attempt at journalism.

Posted by: Stephen | April 13, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Hey Terry your last name is almost spelled right. What your liberal thinking mind does not get is that it sometimes takes people with resources to overcome an injustice and in so doing draw attention to other cases where there were injustices. This is a great day and we should make as much out of it as possible.

Posted by: Larry | April 13, 2007, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Ted Koppel is a journalist. Terry, you are most certainly not Ted Koppel nor a journalist.

Posted by: Stan X | April 13, 2007, 11:15 am 11:15 am

So it is ok to put people in jail because they have money.
That is what it comes down to.
You take run people off their jobs or out of school. They do not have to be convicted you just have to not like them.
Hope people turn on reports next.

Posted by: bill | April 13, 2007, 11:15 am 11:15 am

So, these three young men, though innocent, had it coming? What amazingly warped reasoning. Typical shallow, TV-journo drivel.

Posted by: nick | April 13, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Terry
Is there any room in your Ivory Tower? I’d like to live the perfect life you’ve obviously had…

Posted by: nick | April 13, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am

I’m glad that the truth ultimately came out and nobody went to jail unjustly, but somehow, I can’t work up much sympathy for a bunch of spoiled rich kids who think nothing of spending $800 to hire exotic dancers. It’s clear that their expensive education hasn’t taught them much about how to behave.

Posted by: Patrick | April 13, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am

This is a ridiculous article. These players would never have been in the spotlight to begin with were it not for the sensationalist media. I blame reporters such as yourself just as much as Mr. Nifong. I think you should be taking yours as much as anyone.

Posted by: jimbo | April 13, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Terry,
Bias against people whose parents have money is just as wrong as bias against those who do not have money. You, too, are a bigot.

Posted by: Alan | April 13, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Have we all gone completely mad? NO ONE get’s a pass for making false accusations. NO ONE is deserving of being falsly accused.
I’m just guessing, but do you really pronounce your name MORON?

Posted by: Malcolm | April 13, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

This reporter can’t be serious….can he??

Posted by: je | April 13, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

You last name should be MORON. What an idiot.

Posted by: dobby | April 13, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Were the Duke lacrosse players the pillar of morailty? Perhaps not but, that matters not.
What is happening in a country where an accuser like this woman (a stretch) does this sort of thing and gets a SCHOLARSHIP from Jesse Jacskon? She is getting a reward for her actions!! Imus gets fired.
Doesn’t anyone see that Sharpton and Jackson played up this whole Imus thing to get the Duke story OFF OF THE HEADLINES? They played the media and the media complied lest they get labeled “racist” too.
We deserve what we get in this county if we let Jackson and Sharpton dictate their double standard agenda whereby only white people are accountable.
God help us.

Posted by: gfahey | April 13, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

They ought to call you Terry MORON!

Posted by: Joe Sherrer | April 13, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Liberal idiot.

Posted by: Trace Johnson | April 13, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Okay—- new law!
For every convicted black man or woman, lets throw in jail a white man or woman (any will do) that will make life fair and just.
The pity is Al and Jesse have set back race relations once again.
Barb

Posted by: Barbara | April 13, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am

I just feel plain sorry for any man. Women always get the benefit of the doubt in cases like this. I feel for those guys and I feel for any man rich or poor who has been accused. It is sad that people are guilty until proven innocent in todays society. Lock that accuser up or get her some therapy… then again she will probably just make up something else.

Posted by: OKH | April 13, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am

And if we’re not supposed to feel sorry for them because they paid to hire strippers, does that mean we shouldn’t feel sorry for the stripper because she’s a stripper? We’re not supposed to feel sorry for one of them because he had an assault charge a few years ago, but what about the stripper’s arrest record? Again: unbelievable.

Posted by: Dave S | April 13, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Is it Moran or Moron? Because you would have to be a moron to actually believe and publish this opinion. Believe me, I’m no Duke apologist, but what was done to these guys is wrong, regardless of class or color.

Posted by: Paul | April 13, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Terry, Are you sure that’s how your last name is really spelled?
The fact that you call yourself a journalist is a joke.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Unfortunately, men can be accused of rape or other sexual acts by women and are instantly presumed guilty. There should be some sort of penalty for these false accusations.

Posted by: Batez | April 13, 2007, 11:19 am 11:19 am

don’t look now terry your racism and socialistic class warfare is showing

Posted by: kenneth d. luper | April 13, 2007, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Robert Novak called the White House press corps, ” A pack of hyena’s”. You sure proved that comment correct with this blog on the Duke players.

Posted by: C. Leslie | April 13, 2007, 11:19 am 11:19 am

This is an example of why a federal shield for journalists law is a bad idea.If people like Terry Moran had their way, conservatives would face incessant slandering in the media and have no recourse at all. Moran’s comm ents are an embarrassment.The idea that the “privileged” can be treated more unfairly than others is absurd.

Posted by: Bill M | April 13, 2007, 11:19 am 11:19 am

So, these three young men, though innocent, in your view had it coming? What amazingly warped reasoning. Typical shallow, TV-journo drivel.

Posted by: nick | April 13, 2007, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Terry you sound like a real punk! These guys were investigated and found innocent period! Boy I would like to check out your college past. Did you not ever do anything a little over the top? Or were you just a little nerd that collected gym towels for the debate team??

Posted by: Dolph Davis | April 13, 2007, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Mr. Moran, I presume your resignation is in hand!

Posted by: dianne | April 13, 2007, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Talk about encouraging racial and class warfare. Why limit this to the rich, why not include the middle class, they have better access to legal help. Everyone who is not poor deserve to be falsie accused. Everyone who is not black should get a dose of false accusation too. Parent that have struggled to make a better life for their children SHOULD see their lives of those children destroyed. You are an embarrassment

Posted by: TC | April 13, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Typical liberal media in this country for again blaming the 3 white kids for being WRONGLY ACCUSED of rape by a black female. Where is the apology from Al Sharpton and Jesse “The Thug” Jackson for going after these 3 innocent men? How about the 80 teachers at Duke that signed the petition convicting these kids?

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Just like Imus give Moran his walking papers!

Posted by: william hamilton | April 13, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Of course, the true underlying issue here is actually very easy to ascertain, isn’t it Mr. Moran?
You and your ilk crucified these young men for a solid year and when it turned out they were innocent… both the young men and their lawyers called you and your myrmidons out on national television.
That hurt, didn’t it?
That is the reason for this, isn’t it?

Posted by: Sinanju | April 13, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

I do not feel sorry for this bunch of Dukies. There is no doubt in my mind that something happened. It’s too bad that the story that needed to be told through the victim and prosecutor’s office never got anywhere because of misconduct. These men are not innocent.

Posted by: Jane | April 13, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Ultimately, what happened to these young men was exactly what God wanted them to endure. They were at least objectively in the state of mortal sin and God simply let them reap their just rewards.
This whole ordeal is a great grace for them and I hope and pray that they will make the most of it and change their lives.
It is more than a little revolting to read the comments of those who make light of their dispicable behaviour. One mortal sin is worthy of an eternity in Hell much less the little bit of inconvenience and embarassment these men went through.

Posted by: Virginia | April 13, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Terry, why is it if they’re rich white folk they’re always the enemy? Only by the liberal elitist media, who according to them, are intellectually superior to everyone. They’ll always need victims so they have injustices report and gain viewers (MONEY) and feel good about themselves, and rich white folks are their targets. (Terry, have you ever turned down a pay raise? Hypocrite!)

Posted by: Heidi | April 13, 2007, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Wow, trying to stir up class warfare and envy. With people like you providing news to the masses, we are definitely headed towards trouble.

Posted by: Moxnix | April 13, 2007, 11:21 am 11:21 am

What is wrong with hiring a stripper? This girl worked as a stripper. This girl was a single mother who worked as a stripper to get by. How dare you insult her profession. Stripping is completely legal and a much better alternative than turning to illegal forms of income such as drugs or prostitution.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Anne, I loved your comment on the board. I suggest that everyone reads what Anne wrote. I think it really puts this issue into perspective.

Posted by: James | April 13, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Huh? The story wouldn’t have been a story if they were not “RICH” kids at an elite school. How much coverage would ABC have given the story, if it was the Wrestling team at Cleveland State University? No Matter, wrong is wrong no matter the size of the bank account! But you must not learn that in Journalism School!

Posted by: David | April 13, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Let’s see: they were “part of a team” that hired strippers, “someone” requested an integrated show, “someone” used racial epithets, “one of them” had a previous conviction, and they could afford good lawyers and a good education. Thank you, Mr. Moran, for pointing out why I shouldn’t feel “too” sorry for these over-priveleged white boys. You’ve made clear how a year’s worth of disgrace and terror is really not too high of a price to pay for such horrible infractions. I don’t believe I have ever read such biased, holier-than-thou, ignorant drivel. Mr. Moran, how do you live with yourself?

Posted by: Robert Miller | April 13, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Jeez, Terry, what does the Rutgers basketball team have to do with this? Ok, so you say they were jerks. You’re probably right. I think you’re wrong, though, in believing that America has embraced them as heroes. The interest that we (if I may speak for the country) have shown in this case and the ensuing hurrah that went out after the recent ruling comes from our innate distaste for injustice. They represent right over wrong, regardless of who they are personally. Sure, this case was high-profile while many others were not. Why? Well, you’re the newscaster, not me.
And now that I think about it, maybe the Rutgers basketball team does have something to do with it; like in the way you seem to lionized them as the fellas’ opposites. Are you really sure that they are better people than the Duke boys? Does their background make them any better? Just what the hell are you talking about, Terry?

Posted by: Rich | April 13, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Wasnt the implication in all the reporting that, surely, the rich white guys at duke did it because… well, they are rich white guys. The behavior comes with thier class. See how unjust America is?
Now that its all a sham, we shouldnt feel sympathy for the rich white kids because… well, they are rich white kids. Surely they will exploit someone when given the chance, right?
fits the definition of bigotry, no?
And we are to trust Terry Moran to cover the complex issues of our day?

Posted by: boomdude | April 13, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

“During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.”
During the “incident”? What incident? There was no incident. No laws were broken. Your use of the word incident clearly shows you are in denial, and can’t come to grips with the fact that these young men did nothing wrong.

Posted by: LA | April 13, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

I wonder if Terry Moron has never gone to a party to drink? I wonder if Terry Moron has never watched porn, or gone to a strip show?
Are you so pure, Terry Moron, that you can tell us how to direct our sympathies?

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Mr. Moran’s article is an example of what happens when a talking head departs from his/her script or earpiece and shows us his/her reasoning powers.

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Pure unadulterated hogwash!

Posted by: William Young | April 13, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am

You’re an arrogant bitter man. Go away.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am

After reading Mr Moran’s comments, I feel heartsick. Injustice is wrong no matter who it happens to. Have we gone so far down the road of hatred that our national news reporters no longer even give lip service to it? Mr Moran, in a position of national commentary, should be ashamed.

Posted by: drt | April 13, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Duke Lacrosse players:
Falsely accused of rape, railroaded by a DA, suspended from school, accrued $3,000,000 in legal fees. Names tarnished forever.
vs.
Rutgers womens hoops players:
Being called a bad name by a radio DJ
Nice perspective!

Posted by: D | April 13, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Moran,
You are a first class jerk. Sorry that your lib template did not pan out.

Posted by: John O'Donnell | April 13, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Management of ABC, Terry Moran should be reprimanded for his incredibly insensitive remarks minimizing the effects of the framing of the Duke students.
His remarks promoting a double standard of outrage about prosecutorial misconduct on the basis of priviledge is blatently classist and more-than-subliminally racist — against white people. I do not excuse black racism against blacks, nor should you excuse Mr. Moran’s clearly racist remarks against the white defendants. I say his remarks and unfair accusations are racist because he would not be making them if the wrongly accused were these not privileged white men.
And shame on you, Terry Moran, for publishing this kind of hateful opinion that blames the victims because they were not perfect in every way, in your eyes.

Posted by: Vincent Egry | April 13, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Terry Moran needs to be fired for that nonsensical article. The idea that we should not feel sorrow for a group of young man that were unjusticely accused of rape and had their names ruined in front of the entire country is insanity.
I demand that Mr. Moran apologize for his comments and meet with the 3 players to express his remorse in person. He should immediately be fired by ABC.

Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2007, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Don’t feel too sorry for the Dukies? You must be crazy to write such tripe. No matter what your political persuasion, the injustices committed to these families were horrific. The behavior/ethics of Mike Nifong should expose him to disbarment and civil suits from the families.
Yes, I have sympathy for the “Dukies” and absolute contempt for their accuser. IMHO, Terry you couldn’t be more wrong on this issue.

Posted by: Six | April 13, 2007, 11:25 am 11:25 am

There is one thing I am unclear on. Are you supposed to be a journalist? It is obvious that you are dissapointed the kids are innocent. You are part of the problem.

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 11:25 am 11:25 am

I think Terry Moran is aptly named.
Apparently Moran doesn’t really care about justice. They were innocent – Period. Why do I believe that had these players been black and wrongly accused, your little blog entry would be a lot different? You clearly have some issues and writing about them publicly might not be in your best interest – better to hide this weirdness going on in your head.

Posted by: Johnny Ventana | April 13, 2007, 11:25 am 11:25 am

The unsympathetic comments in the article are a continuation of the class warfare that instigated this mess starting with the first reports. Whatever happened to justice being blind? The faculty and students at Duke who demonstrated against three young men should be ashamed.

Posted by: D. Keiser | April 13, 2007, 11:25 am 11:25 am

You’re an idiot!

Posted by: Steve Barton | April 13, 2007, 11:25 am 11:25 am

You have just proven that your employer requires neither intelligence or insight as a condition of employment.

Posted by: Ron | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

As previously noted, injustice is injustice is injustice and must be condemned in all its forms. Let’s also remember that our justice system, like all human endeavor, is fallible.
While it is true that these kids were behaving badly and should be ashamed of their behavior, they were not behaving criminally. Once (wrongly) accused, they were not professionally handled by the justice system, but were upon by the baying hounds of race hucksters and the feckless Duke faculty.
Next time anyone behaves shamefully, reflect on how one would like that misbehavior to be splashed over the media and into the workplace.
The men were victimized by cowards who should, themselves, be ashamed.

Posted by: John N. | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

This is a case of buyer beware.
The Duke boys may have the legal right to hire poor single mothers to dance for their entertainment, but you never know what you’re going to get! Especially when you start throwing around racist comments like a bunch of good ol’ boys.
No, they didn’t deserve to be accused of rape. But they were and they’ve been vindicated. Unlike the countless poor men wasting their lives away in jail.
In a world where the truly innocent die every day due to violence, famine and disease, I have little sympathy to spare for any of these people.

Posted by: Christine | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Terry,
You are part of the problem. The reason they “deserve” a high-profile apology is because they were given a premature high-profile conviction. All of these other thousands of wrongly accused people you are talking about were not convicted on global media. These guys were unfairly prosecuted by both the prosecuter and the media. They deserve apologies from both and the more public the better. Otherwise, the billions of people who saw them get unfairly convicted, can now see them get exonerated.
Also, like everyone else, I’m waiting for Rev. Jackson and Al Sharpton to also apologise for rushing to judgement and conficting these individuals before due process. They help to inflame racism as opposed to eliminate racism.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Since this week has been filled with stories of irresponsible media members being fired for their actions, I call on ABC News to immediately fire Terry Moran for this atrocius article. There is no way to justify this, Terry. Do everyone a favor, submit your resignation, and hope this goes away. You are a disgrace to yout profession and to ABC News.

Posted by: Go Join Imus | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

No don’t feel sorry for the Dukies. You should feel sorry for woman maaking the allegations, after all she must have a hard life if it causes her to make up these stories. Feel sorry for Nifong, his career has been damaged by these boys. Feel sorry for the Duke 88 since their rush to judgement turned out to be wrong. It’s hard to be wrong. Feel sorry for Brodhead because he stepped out in front early and picked the wrong horse. That must be emabarassing. Feel sorry for Sharpton and Jackson because once again they are wrong. Feel sorry for the media and people like Moran who have to deal with the way this turned out instead of the boys being guilty. No, whatever you do, don’t feel sorry for the boys and their families because they haven’t really been put through very much here at all.

Posted by: KF | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Terry Moran? I think Terry MORON!

Posted by: Hank | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

I think Terry is working to distract our attention. He doesnt want us to think about how quickly he and all his blind, arrogant, agenda driven colleagues jumped on the bandwagon and became judge, jury and executioner for these kids when this all started.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

To imply (no, to say) that we should not feel sorry for these there guys because thye hired a stripper, because they came from wealthy families and because one was once arrest (NOT convicted) is about as stupid a comment as I have heard in long time. Terry, when you were in college, or maybe after college, did you ever have a few beers, maybe a few too many? Did you ever go to a strip joint? Did you ever engage in conduct that was not your proudest moment? Did you ever make a mistake? Should people feel no sympathy for you if something bad happens to you because you have made mistakes or because you are white and powerful? bill

Posted by: bill | April 13, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am

They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team
based on what? the color of their skin? Private school vs. public school? Talk about pre-existing racist ideas!!

Posted by: D | April 13, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Mr. Moran, you sir are an idiot.

Posted by: Confisus sum | April 13, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Terry: Your heart is bleeding all over my screen. I guess being white and succesfull should be a crime.

Posted by: STUCKIN1969 | April 13, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Who is this guy?! I cannot believe what I have just read. One day after Don Imus is fired for a JOKE, ABC gives this guy a forum to spew this crap. I can’t go on, I am just too angy at the hypocracy of it all!

Posted by: Claire | April 13, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am

I cannot believe what I have just read. Even for ABC news this is pretty disgusting and troubling to say the very least. Terry where did you go to school? What was your family’s net worth growing up? I would bet that you can idendify more with these young INNOCENT men then you can the LIAR who targeted them. I feel that all you are doing is race baiting and towing the company line by this ridiculios blatther you call journalism.

Posted by: courtney | April 13, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am

What idiotic blather, there is not one good point or truth in this entire article. I bet even Mike Nifong could make a case against you for a senseless waste of words.

Posted by: john | April 13, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Webster’s Dictionary now has an outstanding example for “sanctimonious”- Terry Moran

Posted by: Tripp | April 13, 2007, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Great article moran!

Posted by: Max | April 13, 2007, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Just another elite, liberal journalist!

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Are you stupid? Don’t feel too sorry falsely accused of rape in the one of the most high publicity cases in the history of the country? Everyone in the country saw your picture as an accused rapist? Spending over a year thinking you may end up in prison? How can you feel sorry enough for these three?

Posted by: Marlon | April 13, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Terry, so I’m guessing your the only man in America to have never been to a strip show!! These are college kids, they didn’t do anything worse than 99% of all kids of that age regardless of income. This piece is a poorly conceived effort to deflect from your rushing to judgement just to sell papers and ad time.. You are a idiot Terry. Its almost like your condoning the fact that they where wrongly accussed because they have wealth.

Posted by: Ben | April 13, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Other than the pious, childlike tone from the ‘writer’ (journalist would be too kind) he said nothing really different than one of the accused said himself. One of the accused said he felt for those that did not have the resources he and the others had when facing prosecutorial misconduct.
I wonder what his real agenda was with this article???

Posted by: Dan Bath | April 13, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Reading this article, clearly shows how wacked the education system is… I’m talking about Moran’s impersonation of a reporter!

Posted by: Al | April 13, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am

I can’t say this is the most absurd thing I have ever read because absurdity has become the coin of the realm in the American press in recent days. This is apologist blather. So now race, social standing, and wealth are the standards by which sympathy should be doled out. Perhaps we should have affirmative action sympathy. God help us all.

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am

This author is a fool. Being falsely accused of rape is one of my worst nightmares. How do you keep your job with such garbage?

Posted by: Ryan | April 13, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am

What Imus said about the Rutgers team, he is paying the price. That comment may have offended that team’s players but what they are going through on account of that is no way comparable to what happened to the Duke lacrosse players. Players were “dragged throuhg the mud” for a year on charges apparently without legitimate basis. One of them lost a job offer. Two others left school and won’t return. A season was cancelled. A coach was fired. One of the players said he never could tell his side of the story to the DA or his investigators, amazing.

Posted by: RF | April 13, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am

The North Carolina Attorney General said “We believe that these cases were the result of a tragic rush to accuse and a failure to verify serious allegations.” But Terry wants to blame the team members from Duke. Mr. Moran I can not believe your logic. The Coach lost his job. The season was cancelled. These guys got at a minimum of one year stolen from their lives. Terry take another look you are dead wrong.

Posted by: Arttow | April 13, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Since when is it a crime to have money? Why isnt the stripper,Crystal Gail Mangum , being charged with filing a false report,and being charged with a racial hate crime? She did rule out the only black player as not being involved! Sounds premeditated to me. Hell will freeze over before Sharpten and Jackson stop being opportunist and racist.

Posted by: Mel | April 13, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Outrageous comments by this guy. He should be fired.

Posted by: Peter | April 13, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Good job Terry on posting what most people thought. I am sure these boys will get on with their lives and be successful!

Posted by: Jenny Justice | April 13, 2007, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Terry, thanks so much for showing all of us the idiocy of the leftwing liberal media mindset. Good job.

Posted by: Jason | April 13, 2007, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Ignorant, ignorant remarks. Being not just unjustly accused, but purposely so by a prosecutor bent on headlines and reelection, is a major ordeal. Yes, they had excellent representation which not all unjustly accused people have. But also at a big price. While none of the 3 come from poor families, I do not believe any of them are independently wealthy. They had to dig into life savings or borrow lots of money to fend off false and vulgar charges. As to the circumstances of the party, we do not know whether any of the 3 were acive planners or supporters of the nature of the party. To judge these 3 based upon the decisions of a group is also unfair. I note that Seligman was not even at the party during the time of the performance and alleged rape, a fact ignored by the prosecutor. How dare this author pen what he did!

Posted by: Brian Ekdahl | April 13, 2007, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Your posting is absolutely amazing. You fault the young men who are innocent victims, and say that there are many cases which are unreported. Exactly. The racist behaviour here is clearly yours and the news media and is a principal contributor to the ongoing racial problems in america. You are right there are many other cases that are never reported – because the media couldn’t play a race card. You disgust me.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:33 am 11:33 am

“Terry Moran”or Terry Moron??

Posted by: Geoffrey | April 13, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Wasn’t one of these three “rich kids” on a lacrosse scholarship and not from a weathly family?
Be careful which brush you paint with while you are intergecting your class envy.

Posted by: shell | April 13, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Terry, thanks so much for showing all of us the idiocy of the leftwing liberal media mindset. Good job.

Posted by: Jason | April 13, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am

I have always thought Terry Moran to be a condescending, foolish liberal … today he proved me right again. Absolute drivel. Holy cow! I am almost embarrassed for him.

Posted by: walter | April 13, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am

To say that one terrible wrong isn’t that bad because there are worse wrongs is just simply moronic.You sir need to get a grip.

Posted by: david strand | April 13, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Terry Moran is a left-wing fool.

Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Unbelievable, ABC has now officially been outed ! No way they can claim there is no media bias, Terry Moron needs to be fired immediately .

Posted by: Larry | April 13, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Rich, white guys must be guilty of something, so they don’t deserve the same justice as the oppressed minority.
My grandfather came here from Mexico to have freedom and a better life. People like you want everyone to feel guilty when they attain it.
I am totally amazed that ANYONE could find something negative about three innocent young men being spared a life of undeserved guilt and prison.
What’s wrong with you?

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Both parties, the young men and Nifong, were playing with fire and they both got burned. The racial profiteers then jumped in and tried to make some hay out of it. In the end, they all got what they deserved. Moral of the story: Stay away from trouble and don’t try to profit off of others mistakes.

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am

When will Oprah have these boys on?

Posted by: john | April 13, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am

I think that Terry needs to lose his job now…how dare he say that these young men deserved what they got by the actions they took. That is beyond the pale.

Posted by: Jim in VA | April 13, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Wow! Don’t feel sorry for these guys because it happens to other (less fortunate) people too? Don’t feel sorry for these guys because they were doing something legal (like getting strippers) that you don’t like? Don’t feel sorry because one of the guys had a separate and completely different incident in DC?
Are you being blackmailed by Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton?

Posted by: Tom K | April 13, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

I don’t think people feel “sorry” for the “Dukies”. I think they feel sorry for our country because clearly this type of thing is not an isolated incident. This type of abuse of power has become wide-spread and it threatens the rights of all of us, not just the poor, not just the black, not just those who are less than “admirable”. Since when does a person have to be admirable to expect the justice system to work? “Justice for all” has been attacked in this case. That’s why people are showing an outpouring of concern which you wrongly label “sympathy”.

Posted by: Linda | April 13, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Do NOT feel sorry for them! Life could be worse– they could be a blithering MORON writing inane articles for ABC News, showing their face, name, and utter stupidity to the world.
I had so much I wanted to write but people who write articles like this are a lost cause. You can never win an argument with an innocent “man”.

Posted by: Tigerclaw | April 13, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

This is what this country has become in the hands of our liberal media!! Moran is a MORON!!

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Although innocent of all charges, am I to understand then it was fine to put them through this because they happen to be white, rowdy jocks, and from affluent families? What about equal protection of the law for ALL Americans? By the way, your prosperity envy is showing.

Posted by: KG | April 13, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Wow, talk about racist! The young white Dukies have a cushion and will get along just fine unlike the women from Rutgers! Because some of ladies on the basketball team are black they could not possibly come from wealthy families?! I do not know each one of their personal situations and my guess is neither do you Mr. Moran! Fairness should not be based on assumptions, economics or race. It should be based on facts.

Posted by: Cindy | April 13, 2007, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Terry, let’s throw out all skin color, ethnic background, education and financial status… How do you judge this now?
Are you biased towards these three gentlemen because they come from succesful families and are white?
If you say no to that question, then what’s your real swing here?

Posted by: Ferris | April 13, 2007, 11:38 am 11:38 am

If the first thing you see in every incident like this is “What about all those blacks who are in this situation?”, then you are a racist. White or black should not matter. You should be judged by your actions and conduct.

Posted by: Ryan | April 13, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Terry,
Its long overdue. You really need to go back to Court TV covering OJ, the Mendendez brothers, or some other freak of the week.
Your commentary is just below the journalistic standards expected at a high school newspaper.

Posted by: Incredulous | April 13, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am

No wonder ABC has tanked

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am

I think that ABC should fire you.

Posted by: Clark Willms | April 13, 2007, 11:40 am 11:40 am

This is what this country has become in the hands of our liberal media!! Moran is a MORON!!

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:40 am 11:40 am

This ranks among the most despicable pieces of journalistic opinion ever written. Youthful indiscretion and boorishness is common among the rich and the poor. Such actions seldom rise to the level of criminality. In the end, the families got the simple justice that everyone deserves but many do not get. I hate that it cost them $5,000,000. Nobody seems to recall that these are athletes on scholarship. That they are filthy rich is not necessarily true.

Posted by: Rod Andrews | April 13, 2007, 11:40 am 11:40 am

And there you have it…..your typical LIBERAL media. What else can be said about this guy or ABC news?

Posted by: Todd | April 13, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am

As the mother of two boys, thank god my husband is a criminal attorney!With people like you Tery Moron and Nifong who think nothing of ruining someone’s life, there will always be someone else there to fight for people’s rights!

Posted by: Jocelyn | April 13, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am

So don’t feel sorry because they were rich and could afford lawyers when too many black (many poor white kids too) kids can not? Makes a lot of sense to think that they should endure and be punished for a false charge only because they are rich. Wonderful thinking.
I do not look at them as being lily white and innocent–college boys drinking and parting with a stripper. But is that any different from Spring break or what the rappers do at their parties?

Posted by: Sara | April 13, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Injustice is injustice. It is reprehensible regardless of race, class or creed. You either sympathize with people wrongly accused of crimes or you don’t. Clearly Mr. Moron feels that injustice is OK for some, but not others.

Posted by: Moran is a Moron | April 13, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am

No amount of misconduct on the player’s part justifies the false accusations of the “victim.” I wonder if the reporter were in the player’s shoes he’d make the same comments? I’d bet he’d suddenly develop some understanding of the seriousness of the victim’s lies, which he at present does not seem to have.

Posted by: LEE | April 13, 2007, 11:43 am 11:43 am

BingoFuel is right. Why is there such different treatment between the Rutgers and Duke incidents? It is because these people have a double standard. Is this guy saying that the Rutgers b-ball players are poor? That is what it sounds like. Remember, Rutgers plays D-1 b-ball. They are not paying for their schooling. There is no difference between these incidents. But because one group is white and goes to a prestiges school and the other group is black, they are treat completely different. A huge double-standard.

Posted by: ACF1 | April 13, 2007, 11:43 am 11:43 am

And I don’t feel sorry for stupid journalists, so there.
THANK GOD FOR FOX NEWS.

Posted by: Beau Philips | April 13, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Is anyone surprised that an ABC reporter would be so biased and nonsensical?

Posted by: Vladimir998 | April 13, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am

This is one of the worst pieces of trash I’ve read in a very long time and is yet another example of media bias in the worst form. The fact that these young men did NOTHING illegal is all that matters. We’re not talking about your judgement about whether you APPROVE of the young mens’ conduct, we’re talking about whether what happened to them was both WRONG and ILLEGAL.
Report the news. Don’t try to make it yourself!

Posted by: KRV | April 13, 2007, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Moran is an MORON. These kids’ families are out millions on the legal defense for these false charges. Nifong was wrong.

Posted by: JoJo | April 13, 2007, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Hey Terry Moron,
You must be kidding. These college kids were wrongfully accused of rape and kidnapping and the mainstream media hung them out to dry. You should be apologizing, not making more idiotic commentary.

Posted by: Icon | April 13, 2007, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Wow, you’re an idiot. Wrongly accused is wrongly accused. Rather than lamenting the fact they could afford lawyers to exonerate these students, you should be thankful that only one year of their life was wasted as opposed to 15 years. You’re way off base on this one.

Posted by: tomo | April 13, 2007, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Does not surprise me you are defending trial by THE media…guilty and convicted in the media for months and months. What happened to innocent until proven your are guilty? The media rush to judgment in high profile cases is astounding. Shame on you!

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Dear Terry Moron, Your comments are sincerely too incredibly stupid to waste much of my time commenting on except that you should be fired today after you have apologized to those innocent boys and their families.

Posted by: Paul | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

And we wonder why we don’t seem to make the progress we should in terms of race in this country. Journalists like you who are intent on fomenting the notion that the haves in this country deserve to suffer because the have nots do (as if these boys are personally responsible for every injustice of the have nots!)is the main reason for our lack of progress. Would you feel better if they had been wrongfully sent to prison? Would that have benefited all of the wrongfully accused and convicted have nots? When will you understand that we don’t build the bottom up by tearing the top down?

Posted by: bob | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

wow, you’re too insane to even take seriously.
/not unlike imus’ “offensive” comments.

Posted by: trixie | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

The duke players behavior was not illegal but it was certainly less than desirable.
The girls, who willingly danced naked infront of the guys, behavior was not illegal but was certaily less than desirable.
What goes around comes around for both parties.

Posted by: mark | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Mr. Moran’s comments are almost unbelievable to me! He has been so brainwashed against white people of financial means that he seeks to totally minimize the horrible nightmare that these three young men were unrighteously forced to endure for 395 days. If it were three black men falsely accused by a white woman he and others of his closed-minded ilk would be screaming about the injustice from the top of their lungs. I long ago quit watching the grossly left-slanted news reports of the three major networks and CNN. Moran’s blog is a vivid example of why myself and millions of others have deserted the “main scream” media.

Posted by: CJ Monaco | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Since someone else opened the door and mentioned Rutgers and Tawana Brawley, it begs the question when is Al Sharpton going to apologize to these young men?
Probably right after Terry does, don’t hold your breath.
ABC, grow a spine and lose this sorry excuse for a journalist.

Posted by: Thomas Fraser | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

What a ridiculous and offensive argument. The players were wronged and have and will pay the price for years to come. Minimizing this because of their race and economic status is just as racist and deplorable as if it they were minorities. Would you apply your same standards if we looked into the lives of the Rutgers women’s basketball team and see if they should have any sympathy as well? Injustice is injustice no matter who you are. Network news just doesn’t get it.

Posted by: Andy Lancaster | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

This case wouldn’t have attracted all of this attention over the past year if it weren’t for mainstream media outlets (like ABC) jumping all over this and making it a racial/rape case. These guys were convicted and brutalized by you and the rest of the mainstream media (as well as race warlords like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton who will probably never apologize for their disgusting actions) and now you have the gall to say we shouldn’t feel that sorry for them? You (ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, etc.) put them in the position they are in by exploiting the case and providing wall to wall coverage.

Posted by: GuestPost | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

I did see what the big deal is about requesting “one white stipper” It would be different if they requested all white strippers. So people are attracted to their own race, big deal. All races would do the same…

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Mr. Moran,
You should consider going back to school to earn a college degree. You should probably focus your studies on something you might like to pursue, but know little about. I recommend you major in journalism.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

I love articles like this! Always after the fact! Now the ones that were wrong with their analysis from the very beginning feel that they have to tell the ones that have been right all along how to think. Hey wipe the egg off of your faces the truth is out and whatever good comes out of this for the Lacrosse players they deserve.

Posted by: Gordon | April 13, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Terry, IMO you are judging the Duke players regarding morality issues and not the real issue of miscarriage of justice. Hopefully you will never be falsely accused, walk in their shoes, and feel as they have felt for the past year.
I have always enjoyed your reporting but you have just tainted that.

Posted by: Judy Stage | April 13, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

You feel guilty because you and dozens of professors at Duke came down hard, wrongly, on those boys. Innocent is innocent, you and your ilk condemned them because they come from money. Get over it. Get over yourselves.

Posted by: Gena | April 13, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

You are lazy and irrelevant. Congratulations.

Posted by: JC | April 13, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Boy, what kind of reasoning do you go through to come up with this article? Talk about class warfare. If you have resouces, are white and go to Duke and get charged with a crime you did not commit, don’t feel sorry for them. Let us hope you never have your life ruined as these boys did!

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Terry makes a great point. If you hire strippers and you have a few drinks before you turn 21 you deserve to face 30 years in prison, get suspended from school, face death threats, have your reputation ruined, and spend millions in legal fees. It’s a good thing it is a rare occurrence for college students to engage in that type of behavior.

Posted by: Tron | April 13, 2007, 11:50 am 11:50 am

You deserve the same fate as Imus.
As a middle class teacher who had to scrounge to raise $130,000 to send my son to Duke, I feel insulted that you denigrated all of the students of Duke over an incident that never happened.

Posted by: Dave Gee | April 13, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am

More PC self-righteousness sophistry. Liberal bias in the media? Perish the thought.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am

You arrogant idiot. How many parties have you been to that worse things have gone on? Shall we investigate your bad behavior and air it out for everyone to see. Maybe we should just start making things up and not following proper protocol in our legal system.

Posted by: Babakazoo | April 13, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am

terry,you are a way off base.I will never watch nightline again.

Posted by: jerry | April 13, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Fire Terry Moran!

Posted by: Jim Jones | April 13, 2007, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Just another reason to not watch ABC news!

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am

You’re an idiot, good thing they limit you to blogging.

Posted by: RF | April 13, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Liberal fool

Posted by: Duncan | April 13, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am

What a moron! Maye the President of ABCNews should decide if you are credible enough to continue working for the company!

Posted by: Marc | April 13, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am

So let me get this straight. Because these boys are white and not black. Because they go to Duke or any other university and are not on the streets. Because they came within a hairs breath of having thier lives destroyed. instead of having thier lives destroyed in reality. And because we have not righted every other wrong in the country when it comes to judicial misconduct. We should not feel sorry for them? You are a moron!

Posted by: M. Roberts | April 13, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Sounds like you’re covering your tracks after the mainstream media had all but convicted and sentenced these guys. I’m aware of the raciat epitats and the bad behaviour, but that does not give cover for all the bad behaviour by the media.

Posted by: Darryl | April 13, 2007, 11:54 am 11:54 am

What an ass…

Posted by: Scott | April 13, 2007, 11:54 am 11:54 am

You jerk!
- Matt in Detroit

Posted by: Matt Hayden | April 13, 2007, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Mr. Moran understands well the cushy lifestyle of the elite, since he himself enjoys it! Oh, the joys of sitting in an ivory tower and pontificating to the unwashed masses!

Posted by: Cfouts | April 13, 2007, 11:55 am 11:55 am

I live near Durham and remember the huge rallies against the young men. Awful posters on Duke Campus maligning these men before they were even charged. Threats against them and their families abounded. These men displayed poor judgement in their actions that night but that should not be something that should cost them a year of their life much less the potential to spend thirty years in jail. This should be a cautinary tale for young people and anyone sending their child to Duke. As I have always advised my son, if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

Posted by: Karen | April 13, 2007, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Come on Terry, these three guys faced YEARS in prison and from looking at them, I don’t think they would have lasted too long.
Although, I remember what my mom told me when I was that age about partying, etc.
“Nothing good happens after midnight”
Words to live by.

Posted by: Slovak | April 13, 2007, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Terry do you think Rev Sharpton and Rev Jackson should apologize to these young men?Or for the foolish statements they’ve made in the past.
These young men did what goes on at
every college campus.Is it right no
but get your head out of the sand.
I hope they file civil suits and take Nifong,Durham,North Carolina,and Duke for Millions.

Posted by: robert | April 13, 2007, 11:57 am 11:57 am

You are a complete idiot. You’re now just trying to rationalize your previous condemnation of these players because they engaged in actions that you personally consider to be unethical. Even if you don’t like the fact that they hired strippers, none of these guys did anything illegal at any point time. If you want to condemn them for hiring black strippers, maybe you ought to condemn the strippers for agreeing to engage in this line of business as well.

Posted by: Marc | April 13, 2007, 11:57 am 11:57 am

ABC: says it all, doesn’t it?

Posted by: Kevin K. | April 13, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am

This piece is an outrage. As we transition into this newfangled world of what is and what is not acceptable discourse over the various mediums of broadcast media, Moran’s above “article” clearly falls on the unacceptable side of the spectrum. Mr. Moran really ought to lose his job over the misplaced sentiments expressed in the commentary, which together demonstrate a remarkable bias that is unfit for an alleged journalist.

Posted by: Daniel Turginton | April 13, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Wow. How about sticking to reporting some news and leave the marxist revolutionary speak out. Getting down on the 3 guys because they have a nice “cushion” underneath them. This article is pathetic.

Posted by: Jim Brass | April 13, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am

How is it demeaning to women when they work as strippers, arnt they getting paid, didnt they choose to strip?

Posted by: whaqtever | April 13, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am

And you wonder why people are turning away from the MSM in droves? To paraphrase-”Don’t feel bad for these guys, in one way or another they deserve it because they’re white and well off”. The term “journalist” is being applied way too broadly these days.

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Hiring a stripper, although distasteful to some, is however legal for all in North Carolina.

Posted by: NY | April 13, 2007, 11:59 am 11:59 am

I can’t believe this reporter had the audacity to say anything other than the fact that the original story was made up and the legal system let the three people down in their “pursuit of the truth!” The background of the students was not the issue at any time. The behavior of the students was: the legality of their actions. For anyone to paint a picture due to the financial position of the parents is an injustice to all people charged with a crime. All defendants are required to be considered equal in the eye of the law, but, not in the eye of a reporter who has made a cheap attempt to paint these Duke students as less than deserving of fairness. This person shows a distinct “class envy” syndrome.

Posted by: L Teich | April 13, 2007, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Ohmigosh – I cannot believe your racist / elitist slant on this. Because they are white, we should feel no sympathy? Because they go to a good school, we should have no sympathy? Because their parents have enough money to hire good lawyers, we should have no sympathy?
Terry, m’lad, sympathy is not FINITE – I have enough for everyone who deserves it!!!
As should you.
Unless your name is misspelled and should really be spelled MORON!!!

Posted by: PJ | April 13, 2007, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

What an odd bigoted attitude you express. ‘Don’t feel sorry for these victims of media and prosecutorial misconduct because there are others’
You great professionals at ABC camped out at Duke with your Nightline crew, raising the stakes and the heat – and the opportunity for misconduct – on Durham and those falsely accused.
I wonder what happened to the concept of hanging together or hanging seperately? If one of us is persecuted, we all are, used to be a very ethical position. The contortions imposed by your PC mentality really tell us a great deal about you, and trust me: it is not a sympathetic, ethical, or professional image.

Posted by: hunter | April 13, 2007, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

What about the rest of the team that may not have even been at the party that had their season canceled and by assoication their reputation dishonored by this false claim. How do they get that back?

Posted by: TimWT | April 13, 2007, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

The media feels so sorry for the Rutgers basketball team because of a few words and you say don’t feel sorry for guys falsely accused of rape. Do you think that it is ok to be falsely accused of rape just because you can afford to pay an attorney?
I generally enjoy most of your reporting, but you just showed your complete ignorance.

Posted by: John C | April 13, 2007, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

You sir, are an idiot.
These boys lives were ruined. They were tarred and feathered by the likes of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson,,,,why,,,,because they were white. These boys deserve a personaly apology from those 2 race baiters and all the other media outlets in this country.

Posted by: Willlard | April 13, 2007, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

I am appalled at your attitude. Using your logic, class is the determining factor as to whether we, the uninformed public, should decide how we should respond to injustice. I don’t think you really mean that. Although the media, at the beginning stressed the class issue, it is now taking it on the chin for convicting these students in the public’s eyes before the facts were ascertained. This not the first time nor will it be the last.

Posted by: Ron | April 13, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

The fact you make sucha big deal about kid watching strippers (something I’m sure yo’ve done…paid for…or certainly sish you had) is a testimate to you stupidity.
If you’re so concenred about such behavior you might want to take a look at the most influential members of your politcal landscape. If they measure up then have a beef with these kids…the likehood however, is that they don’t.
AS another reader mentioned why not use this as fuel for the countless acts of injustive commited by North Calorlina citizens and politicians against the minorities who suffer the wrath of bigotry and racism to this day.

Posted by: AB | April 13, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Mr. Moron,
Based on this article you should never feel sorry for anyone who’s parents are well off, because I guess that’s the real crime here. Let’s look back on our college days and can any among us say we never had a moment or two of bad judgement? Mr. Moron apparently hasn’t. The mere fact that these fellows requested one white stripper is brought up so Mr. Moron can infer racism but in actuality the are properly conforming to affirmative action. Oh and how dare they have $800 dollars. Can anyone say Tawana Brawley?

Posted by: DJ | April 13, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Terry,
The most disturbing aspect of this commentary is your disingenuous willingness to masquerade your personal contempt in the guise of a torturous logic. That constitutes a fatal failing of journalistic integrity, as you bereft the populace of objectivity, or even subjectivity.

Posted by: Lux Et Veritas | April 13, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

This is the most outrageous column I’ve seen in a long time. It takes issue against three young men who did not commit a crime, but almost went to prison. Don’t you know enough to understand the facts of the situation. Someone lied about the incident! Your bias should be towards truth and honesty. It should not be swayed by the financial backgrounds of the families involved. Shame on you. Read the constitution again, and again and again. Then fight for justice for all, but don’t slam these three boys who were the victims in this ugly incident. Use your energy to work towards a color blind society – and stop showing your own bias towards a “certain class of people”. Stop trying to make points and make sense for a change

Posted by: Nan | April 13, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

ABC welcome to irrelevance.

Posted by: A Lang | April 13, 2007, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Moran, everything you listed is irrelvant in the real world.
You mess with the bull, you get the horns.
I hope the three players extract every penny their high priced lawyers can squeeze out of Dook, Durham, and NC. Then prosecute the two women to the fullest extent of the law. Examples need to be made here.

Posted by: Art Vandella | April 13, 2007, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Duke LaCrosse Students on Trial at ABC News

Terry Moran, reporter at ABC News, is telling us not to feel sorry for the three Duke students, Reade Seligman, Collin Finnerty and David Evans.
Most people with common sense wanted justice not a media frenzy, unethical prosecutor and a liar for an ac…

Posted by: Liberally Conservative | April 13, 2007, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

You are an absolute idiot.

Posted by: Mary Ann Smith | April 13, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Are these kids all even “rich” (and who cares if they are-justice does not apply?). I thought one of their fathers was a New Jersey firefighter.

Posted by: Russ | April 13, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Left leaning liberals have never gone to “elite universities” and only come from underpriviliged families. Yeah right. I demand a face-to-face apology to the Duke 3 and then we still fire you. Who’s even heard of you before? Imus gets fired but since you’re so far under the radar, ABC News doesn’t care about you. Congratulations.

Posted by: Eric | April 13, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

terry moron,it’s guys like you that makes me proud to be a right wing nut,flag waving,conservative that I am today. you are the perfect example of the left leaning reporters at abc,nbc,cbs and pubic radio.I am now fireing you and abc from my tv news programing. GO fox.

Posted by: ken | April 13, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

This is nuts. People are parsing right and wrong. It was wrong whether or not they hired a stripper or muttered racial epithets. It is wrong whether they were rich or poor, white or black, attending Duke or a local JC.
I feel badly that they suffered at the hands of the accuser, the police, the prosecuter, the Press (particularly the Press) and Duke.
It really is that simple.

Posted by: Rbattman | April 13, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Way to continue race baiting there Terry Morgan. But what can we expect thesed days other than the coorportate media continuing to fuel the race fire… it brings in viewership; viewership equates to advertising revenue. Lead us to race war for the almighthy dollar ABC… way to do it.

Posted by: appauled | April 13, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

That is completely ridiculous. To suggest that we shouldn’t feel sorry for them because Blacks have had similar treatment is ridiculous. We should use this opportunity to deal with and speak about those injustices as well. Your column sounds like something Al Sharpton would write.

Posted by: Justin | April 13, 2007, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Terry, “YOU’RE FIRED!” If not you deserve to be fired for your thinly veiled racially biased reporting designed to incite.

Posted by: Joe Surfer | April 13, 2007, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

This is a profoundly disturbing post that only a true elitist could make. It strikes me that it bothers you that the innocence of these falsely accused young men interferes with the great storyline that was unfolding, until their innocence messed that up.
I agree with other posters. If this were ever to happen to you, you’d feel differently.

Posted by: Mike Lyons | April 13, 2007, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

This is all Bush’s fault.

Posted by: MacIzzle | April 13, 2007, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

You are supposed to b a reporter. If there are “many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct in this country,” why don’t you report on them?

Posted by: bob | April 13, 2007, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

To me, it looks like you are trying to weave an element of social justice into this issue. To me, what you are saying is that these young men deserved to be put through this because they are affluent white males, and affluent white males need to be put in their place, regardless of whether is is right or wrong, regardless of the situation. I don’t believe you are looking at this situation fairly. Thank God you weren’t the judge or one of the prosecuting lawyers.

Posted by: Joel | April 13, 2007, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

I consider myself to be liberal on many issues and am offended at the people who accuse liberals just because of what this “reporter” says. Whether or not he’s a liberal is not important. What is important is the fact that he’s a bloody moron if he actually believes that the Rutgers girls who got racially abused by Imus are worse off than three kids who lost so much in their life just because some whore stripper thought “Hey, payday! I’m going to accuse these guys of raping me so I can gain from it.”

Posted by: Nick Bush | April 13, 2007, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

If you feel so strongly about other cases where prosecutorial misconduct is an issue, you have an obligation to expose them. Don’t blame the Duke players for journalists not doing their jobs in treating all cases with equal zeal.

Posted by: Kim | April 13, 2007, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Wow! I am speechless after reading your take on this story. Moran you are a true Moron.

Posted by: ESF | April 13, 2007, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

The author’s only legitimate point – that the students were lucky to come from families with the resource to fight a frame job – has already been made by the students themselves.
The rest of the article seems to be a mean spirited attempt to drag them through the mud again. Only a petty mind could have written this article.

Posted by: Jim S | April 13, 2007, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

I disagree vehemently with Mr. Moran’s exhortation to withhold my pity for the “Dukies”, as he puts it. That private citizens were subjected to reckless, unfounded charges in order to further a political career is the worst kind of corruption imaginable. Moreover, it is absolute idiocy to even hint that their [admittedly reprehensible] behavior in hiring a stripper somehow justified a year of baseless vilification and a million dollar legal bill.

Posted by: Rick Stoner | April 13, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Nifong deserves to be fired, and yes he should have to pay back every dime these families spent defending their INNOCENT sons. This female that accused them should be charged with providing false information to authorities I don’t care if she was fantasizing, I dont care that she’s a single mom, she cost these guys dearly.
NO ONE deserves what these boys had to endure. Yeah, they aren’t saints, there are things they did or their group did at that party that was not acceptable. But a stripper isn’t exactly a job of prestige, they are usually entertainment for less than honorable individuals.
But this prosecutor went after them like a dog on a bone and LIED about evidence because he wanted to get re-elected (which he did) and make a name for himself. I hope they disbar his deceptive butt.

Posted by: Debi B | April 13, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Thank God my son didn’t grow up to act and think like this idiot Moran. I would be so embarrassed. I’m saddened by his belief system and by his twisted intellectual capacity. Looks like our decision to block ABCnews from our TV was a good one. In the future, who comes to Moran’s defense when he’s wrongly accused? No-one perhaps.

Posted by: John Adams | April 13, 2007, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

This is outrageous. There’s no denying that the Duke guys are lucky and privileged, but that does not mean they deserve to be treated terribly, as you clearly seem to advocate. Yes, other people are victims of the same tragedy and don’t get the attention, but maybe this incident will heighten everyone’s awareness and people will work harder to prevent this from happening to the less fortunate. These guys won’t be able to hold a serious, white-collar jobs in their lives because of what has happened to them. Your article is a prime example of the bias and irresponsibility present in the major media networks of this country.

Posted by: GL | April 13, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

What a poorly drafted and reasoned article. Other than the inability of the article to concisely make the point it is trying to get to, the justification for having no sympathy for the defendants because of their own flaws is morally reprehensible. Should we have no sympathy for the victims in Darfur? Some of these victims weren’t perfect people, and in history there have been many other groups that have been equally mistreated. Your article reveals a prejudice that is just as strong as the ones you wish to condemn. For a country that values market success, it is a shame that writers such as yourself are allowed to so openly feed the flames of class prejudice. The editors at ABC should be ashamed for letting this drivel pass as journalism.

Posted by: JB | April 13, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

So it is ok to be prosecuted unjustly if you ever in your life went to see strippers. So anyone that goes to a strip club, deserves no sympathy? Huh? Terry Moran, you are truly a moron. You sir are the reason why people have little respect for journalist.

Posted by: Disgusted | April 13, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Moran, I think Moron..

Posted by: S Russell | April 13, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Terry, you might be a racist. And, I don’t feel sorry for you.

Posted by: Kevin | April 13, 2007, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Your thoroughly despicable post is a perfect illustration of why viewers are leaving “mainstream” news in droves. I’m insulted every time I hear one of your colleagues prattle on about objectivity as if their audience has no intelligence or memory.

Posted by: Clay Arceneaux | April 13, 2007, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

ABC News is paying you to write this logically flawed garbage?

Posted by: MC StL | April 13, 2007, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

This reporter and ABC should lose their jobs of “reporting” to us for posting such pathetic propaganda. If they think that there is any possible justification for such abuse of the legal system by government against our fellow citizens, then by choice, we each individually should fire their sorry behinds by not volunteering to be their audience. Let’s boycott ABC, Disney and their programming until they respect the freedom from government tyranny that so many have purchased for us with great and ultimate sacrafices.

Posted by: Ford | April 13, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

I didn’t red all of the comments, but it looks like a lot of people are condemning these men because they have come fromm families with money and/or privilege. What in the heck does that have to do with being unjustly accused of a horrible crime? It sounds like too many people think it is fine to accuse someone of rape and then say “Ooops, just kidding” because their parents have worked hard to have a good life. Is there envy here? I think so. I hope you are never on a jury deciding someone’s fate. I think Nifong should go to prison for a long time. This was malicious and vindictive. Is he, too, envious of the players’ “privilege” of attending what used to be considered a good school? Seeing how the players were treated by Duke puts that in doubt now, too.

Posted by: Jaikdee | April 13, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

The idea that one ought not sympathize with the Duke Players because they are children of privilege is absurd on it’s face. A wrong is not made less so dependiong on the race or economic status of the victim.
The remainder of that screed amounts to the cousin to the idea that two wrongs make a right.

Posted by: Fredo | April 13, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

I’d like to say “unbelievable”, but I’ve come to expect this attitude from today’s media machine. As mentioned numerous times already, you completely ignore the facts and continue to focus on the sensationalism that generates headlines and paychecks for tools like you. You’re an absolute idiot and I’m glad you’re taking so much heat for your idiotic drivel.

Posted by: allen | April 13, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Since when is being rich a justification for scorn? Shouldn’t prosecutorial misconduct be equally bad for the rich and poor? If prosecutorial misconduct is such a huge problem for poor defendants, shouldn’t Terry Moran, as a responsible member of the press, bring this scourge to light? The hypocrisy here is amazing.

Posted by: Jeff Weaver | April 13, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

It’s fun to hear a reportor that went to an equally priced and less racially diverse University (Lawrence) say things like this. I had to make sure I wasn’t reading The Onion for his comments or of the comments of the others

Posted by: martin | April 13, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Terry, what’s the matter, did a locrosse player steal your girl at Lawrence?

Posted by: JHS | April 13, 2007, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Unbelievable. I’m shocked, shocked to hear the college students saw strippers! This is athegreat offense? What monastary did you come from? Ever go to college or be young?
Racial slurs? horrible, but not attributed to THESE men. Guilt by association?
Oh, and I forgot, having parents who are successful is the politically correct predjudice. Hate the rich! It’s all their fault!
Einstein was right: The only two things that are infinite are the Universe and Stupidity.
Physician heal thyself.

Posted by: Tim M | April 13, 2007, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

“Suppose that Crystal Mangum really had been raped by the “Dukies”, and they had been found guilty. Would Moran have written a column afterwards saying we shouldn’t feel too sorry for her, because her conduct (stipping) was “not entirely admirable”? I think not.”
That is the best post yet.

Posted by: Jimmy D. | April 13, 2007, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

This moron said this! -They are young men who were victimized by a reckless prosecutor–and had the resources the fight him off. – Terry Moran
I’d say a reporter working for ABC should have the resources to fight off a sexual harassment charge at his office. Or how about some other unprovable allegation… Terry, are you ready? Do you have your resources ready?
Since you have the resources, you don’t mind if I accuse you? Do you?

Posted by: Alan | April 13, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Wow, what a sad sad commentary. We should absolutely fee sorry for these individuals. They did nothing to deserve this at all. I don’t care what their background is, how much money their parents have or anything of the such.
No wonder our country has decided not to even watch ABC news…

Posted by: Joshua Desha | April 13, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Regardless of what the 3 young men prior to the charges, what resulted was wrong and illegal. Simply because they are white and affluent should have nothing to do with the fact that they were charged illegally with a heinous crime and their reputations ruined as was their season. I dare say if these had been 3 African American men in the same situation, I doubt there would be enough paper in the world to right the outrage from the Jesse Jackson’s, Al Sharpton’s, etc and the cry for justice. So what if they hired a stripper? Chance are it will never happen again after this nightmare.

Posted by: Marsha | April 13, 2007, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

What the players did before this nightmare occured is moot! Their was no evidence of rape kidnapping or assault. The prosecution new this. The prosecution chose the young men to be his personal political football into another term as the Durham district attorney.
The real culprits are the clowns that worked along with Mike Nifong and trumpt up or hid evidence that would have cleared the Duke players. Having strippers at a frat party is not a a high crime, Stupid, but not a crime. The accuser should be called up and charged for making false accusations, Mike Nifong should go to jail for his flagrant misuse of power and his staff should be fired for allowing such a travesty to go on.

Posted by: J. Rossiter | April 13, 2007, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

You all are missing the point.. what is really important here, is whatever Don Imus says about it on his radio show!

Posted by: Dr D | April 13, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

You are without a doubt a complete idiot. Change your last name to Moron, please. These kids lives were ruined so Nifong could get re-elected, and we’re not supposed to feel sorry for them???? If Imus gets fired for making a comment, then Nifong and the accuser should be punished much more severely. You must be planning on running for office or something Terry, you waste of space.

Posted by: Ray | April 13, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

What an idiot! If the news organizations hadn’t made a truly local story national, we wouldn’t even be discussing this story. I think your organization and any employee that wrote about this story owes those three young men an apology. I do feel sorry for them… and I feel sorry for pathetic people like you that thrive on the plights of others.

Posted by: Jerdrah | April 13, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Your commentary is just another reason why I get my TV news from FOX and not ABC.

Posted by: Vince | April 13, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

This is easily the most ridiculous article I’ve read in quite some time.
So basically what this journalist is saying is that the act of making false unfounded accusations doesn’t matter as long as you come from a ‘privledged’ life, because in the end a person should feel happy that they have a ‘priveledged’ life and not worry too much about justice.
Riiiiiiight.
What’s sad is that this journalist gets paid to write rubbish like this.

Posted by: SD | April 13, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Mr. Moran, you went to Lawrence University, a private university, I have a question: Did you manage to do that because you are rich and white? I demand to see your and your parent’s tax returns since you were born as well as court records, including juvenile court, to see if you have ever committed a crime before.

Posted by: Timothy | April 13, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

What is it coming to. Are we now guilty for being white? If rich and white you really must be guilty.
If we could undo the in-justice of years gone by many of us would but we cannot.
Also how do you know racial epithets were hurled since the other charges were found to be false?

Posted by: What this is reporting? | April 13, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

It’s a double edged sword…yes, there are a lot of examples of prosecuter misconduct across ths US, and they don’t get the attention that this case did
However, most people falsely accused of a crime aren’t subjected to thousands and thousands of news stories being posted with their names, pictures, etc judging them as rich white kids who got away with a heinous crime

Posted by: Bob Jones | April 13, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

I just have one comment
Terry Moran is a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance

Posted by: Russ | April 13, 2007, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Don’t feel sorry for rich white boys wrongfully accused of rape. Save that anger for attacking rich white radio hosts who use terms similar to what’s heard on Rap and Urban music stations on a daily basis.
ABC your bias is showing (again).

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

I find Mr. Moran’s comments interesting in light of the fact that he attended a private college (Lawrence University in Wisconsin) which, btw, now charges nearly $40,000 per year to attend. Further, I am sure that Mr. Moran’s salary clearly puts him in the top 2% of income earners in the US. Afterall, he was the anchor of Nightline.
A little duplicitous if you ask me.

Posted by: Topper | April 13, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Terry, you’re right about only one thing – these boys got top-flight representation, and that probably made the difference for them. But to say that their lives will be wonderful just because they are “privileged” or went to Duke is crazy. For some reason, you think that because they come from wealthy families, they’re immune from the barbs and thorns of life? I wonder, as a highly-paid reporter for ABC News, aren’t you in the same boat? Hello kettle, I’m the pot. You’re black.

Posted by: John H. | April 13, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

This is really, really pathetic. They were accused and piloried for something that didn’t happen. And they don’t deserve sympathy because of who they were born to? Or because they are atheletes? It is truly sick. Hopefully, the author doesn’t someday have a child in similar circumstances.

Posted by: peter | April 13, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

You can’t possibly beleive the things you’ve written here, so I’ll just chalk this one up to you grandstanding.

Posted by: Brad Metzger | April 13, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Unbelievable. It would seem if a person was truly concerned with prosecutorial misconduct, he (or she) would celebrate each time it was uncovered and rectified. It shouldn’t matter that these young men were white, students of an elite private university, or affluent; they were wrongly accused of a horrible crime. Since I don’t know these three young men so I can’t speak to their character, but to say they don’t deserve sympathy is beyond the pale.

Posted by: PJ | April 13, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

fool.

Posted by: brian | April 13, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

I hope that you wrote this simply to get a rise from your readers. If you actually believe any of what you wrote, I feel very sorry for you.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

A most outrageous column. I hope Moran is never falsely accused of a felony. And wonder what his decorum was at age 21 in college—if he attended college.

Posted by: armsakimbo | April 13, 2007, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

This article and the ensuing discussion are just plain disgusting. To me, this discussion is worse than what Imus said. What kind of animals are you people for attacking these INNOCENT young men?? They’re evil because the are in a higher socio-economic class than most of us???
GROSS.

Posted by: Rene | April 13, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Saying that because these young men hired strippers made them deserving of rape charges is just as repugnant as saying that being a stripper made her deserving of being raped. I am not condoning either’s choice but both were participating in an action that is legal, though morally distasteful. The woman had no right to make a false accusation, regardless of her “mental state”. The DA had no right to file charges until he investigated the facts. The DA had absolutely no right to withhold evidence from the defense and the grand jury. This woman has done great harm to real victims of sexual crimes by crying rape when she was caught being publicly intoxicated.
This woman and the DA should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law now for their crimes.

Posted by: Becky | April 13, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

You are an idiot if you think the media is paying attention to these guys’ plight because they are white and ignoring the plight of minorities who are wrongly accused. They focused on their alleged crimes because they are white and then were just made to look stupid when they were innocent.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

You will forever be dubbed “Terry Moron” from here on in. Your imbecilic logic is way out there, the only person that might agree with you is fellow whack job media talking head Rachel Marsden.

Posted by: Enormo | April 13, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Terry sounds disappointed that they “Dukies” were the innocent victims. What’s that all about?

Posted by: Lee Cary | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

you are an idiot

Posted by: huffman | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Just read Mr. Moran’s post; what a load of self-righteous crap.

Posted by: J.J. DeWitte | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

This is truly one of the most unbelievably ridiculous pieces of “journalism” I have ever read. Nice job of brining irrelevant “facts” into your meaningless rant. I guess the fact that the team requested a white stripper justifies the hell that these three young men have gone through. I commend you on failing to mention that the accuser and Nifong are the real criminals here. I guess you don’t feel sorry for the lacrosse coach that lost his job or the families of these three young men that had their lives turned upside down. Congrats Terry. You’ve outdone yourself this time.

Posted by: Brandon | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

And this guy is supposed to be an objective reporter??

Posted by: Bill W | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

You sicken me Terry. That this piece of anti-capitalist, racist, propaganda would be published by ABC is a national shame.

Posted by: Rohit | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Sour grapes? Don’t tell me, you knew they were guilty. Just another liberal point of view about class and race in this county.
Always looking to divide us in anyway possible. Ask Al Sharpton to apologize to the Duke players and I might think you have some common sense.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Your quote: “MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.” – Aren’t you the media??? So, do your job…cover these many, many cases.
You describe the three as “well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized young men.” – Is this the type of publicity you would want? How much time have you spent with these three men, and their families? Imus met with the Rutgers basketball team and their parents. I challenge you to do the same with these young men.

Posted by: G W | April 13, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

I total fairness we must exclude race as an issue here. There is only one issue. That a woman falsely accused three men of rape. This was a crime and she should be punished for it. You cannot compare what happened in any other case or to any other person since each has it’s own set of circumstances and should be weighed in the blind balances of the legal system.

Posted by: Bob Chrysler | April 13, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Congratulations. You’ve just para-phrased the statement of one of the “Dukies” during HIS press conference when he thanked his parents for providing the resources to fight the charges, and mentioned concern about those who might NOT have those resources. Imus got the axe for making a stupid racist comment – but at least he wasn’t vapid.

Posted by: Mike | April 13, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

I’m getting pretty tired of the race issues perpepuated by the media. Don’t feel too bad for these guys because Terry feels they are “priveledged” white men? But if they were black we need to cry of the injustice?? So if a white woman is raped, it is not nearly as bad a black woman being raped?? Now Don Imus just got fired for slandering black women. Maybe Terry should be fired for slandering white men. But then again, the liberal media truely does not feel we are all equal.

Posted by: Jason | April 13, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

TERRY MORON!!!! GET A REAL JOB !!!!

Posted by: TJ Gilliman | April 13, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Just because those men may be wealthy doesn’t make what happened to them any less of an injustice. Spending $800 on strippers is really irrelevant to this discussion. Even the alleged racial comments they made are not germane. What matters is these individuals were falsely accused of a horrible crime and despite any means that they have, their reputations are considerably damaged. And it speaks volumes about the character of Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton that they consider the Rutgers women more victimized than these individuals.

Posted by: Larry F. | April 13, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

I can’t believe anyone is falling for this. It is obvious that this article was written to draw attention to it’s author. This is another example of the media being outrageous for the sake of creating a frenzy. If it were not on the drudge report I would have never heard of this idiot.

Posted by: Doug Hubert | April 13, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Mr. Moran,
Please don’t quit your day job….what? This is your day job? Uh Oh!

Posted by: Dan | April 13, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Crystal Gail–She is the one that began this whole awful incident. She should be prosecuted.

Posted by: Mattea | April 13, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

You are a total and complete idiot!

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Hehehe!
Responses to your “column” are runnging a good 5:1 (or more) against.
It’s also a good example of why ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, the NYT, et al. are experiencing financially devestating declines in viewership/readership.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Wow, Terry I think that you might have missed on this one. Don’t feel sorry for the playere? I guess Nicole Simpson was asking for it too. Maybe Tawana Brawley wasn’t lying. You argue that victims somehow deserve what happended to them. You can’t overlook an injustice just because it fits some sort of left wing political agende a reporter might have. This is why no one trusts reporters anymore.

Posted by: Chris Reed | April 13, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Thanks for reminding me I abandoned the liberal slanted newcasts of the major networks.
The absudity of this “blog” is amazing.

Posted by: chas2117 | April 13, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

What is the problem of being “a priviledged men” Is that some notch down in humanity? Are they less human?

Posted by: LL | April 13, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

What a stretch for someone who has writer’s bloc. Either get more creative or find another career.

Posted by: Larry Sumerford | April 13, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

So, it’s no big deal to be accused of a felony and lose a year of your life?
Exactly how much money would you expect to be paid for going through what they went through?
This is one article that did not need to be written. Liberal, relativistic nonsense.

Posted by: Bubba | April 13, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

What other position would you expect from ABC. Only Liberal elites (celebrity wealthy, judges, professors and Liberal party members) are free from their criticisim.

Posted by: Terrance | April 13, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

thought i would check back to see if abcnews had the courage to yank this article off its website. no such courage apparantly exists in the halls of abcnews where people like the cospiracy theorist, rosie o’donnell and moran the fool reside.

Posted by: amdrew | April 13, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Thanks for reminding me why I abandoned the liberal slanted newcasts of the major networks.
The absudity of this “blog” is amazing.

Posted by: chas2117 | April 13, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

This came from ABC so who is shocked by it. This is PC

Posted by: Dave Hinton | April 13, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

what a stretch of twisted thought. I hope you are never falsely accussed of any crimes and then dragged through the mud of a political campaign.
Your comment is a testcase for everything wrong with the media.

Posted by: mike | April 13, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

And another thing…you are why people watch FOX News your so foolish and a hypocrit. Journalists should wear a scarlett H on their coats.

Posted by: Navy Dog | April 13, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

I call on ABC News to fire Mr. Moran for his callous and insensitive comments. There is no place in the public discourse for someone who seems pleased about what happened to these your men. He is mostly upset because he is losing, what to him, was such a great story.
Mr. Moran should lose his job.

Posted by: Parker | April 13, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

“They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
Can you be any more racially condensing?

Posted by: Jay Devin | April 13, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

So rich white guys are the only ones who hire/pay for strippers? The only ones who request white strippers?
Who is the racist now? What a pathetic bigoted article. You should be fired for your insensitivity.

Posted by: ggil | April 13, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

you all dilute and diminish your arguments when you make this a liberal media thing. this is just a foolish stupid article. nothing to do with liberal vs conservative debate in my view.

Posted by: andrew | April 13, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Moran Exposed: The readers comments in this blog illustrate why Drudge is the most influential media outlet in the world.

Posted by: C. Gosselin | April 13, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Terry Moran should be fired for this article and have no one feel sorry for him.

Posted by: ED W | April 13, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Terry, you are totally missing the point! As usual, people such as yourself in the liberal media are playing the race card and focusing on their background. Who they are, what they did, and where they came from is inconsequential! The real issue is that a reckless prosecutor broke the law and conducted himself in an unethical manner by falsely accused these young men of something they didn’t do. It is scarey that one would have to spend millions in this country to protect oneself again a corrupt prosecutor, who should be removed from office and disbarred!

Posted by: Daniel | April 13, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Hmm what is the problem of being a “priviledged men”. Are they less human?

Posted by: LL | April 13, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

What is wrong with you? No wonder this country is where it is. And I will add that the state of affairs at ABSC is totally disgraceful. The network is allowing disgraceful and untruthful comments by Rosie o’Donnell. Yes, we all have freedom of speech but not to lie and misguide the public. I just cannot believe you wrote the article on the Duke players. Shame on you.

Posted by: ana | April 13, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

I think most of you are missing the point. I don’t think he is saying what happened to the Duke boys is a good thing. I think the point is we should be outraged that this is happening all the time and nobody makes a big deal about it until it happens to privileged boys.

Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

What a perfectly foolish thing to say. Mr. Moran should be embarassed to have written this. ABC should be embarassed to have Mr. Moran on its payroll.
And these are the folks one is supposed to trust for even-handed news?

Posted by: js | April 13, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

The key word that jumps at me is Terry Moran’s use of the word privilege. Putting aside Finnerty for a moment who does have a history in DC, is the fact that Siegleman and Evans come from families that worked hard and succeded a bad? Since when being “privilege” justify the kind of hell heaped on them over the last year? Moran is obviously a class warrior, and has serious problem with envy that he should treat with his psychologist.

Posted by: rick | April 13, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Are you kidding me? So you are bring ing up race in this issue again huh? Because the FALSE rape charge was against whites who’s parents have done well, it doesn’t sting as bad as blacks that don’t have as much money? Give me a break…. You’re a moron.

Posted by: MSS | April 13, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

I’m not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express, and I could have represented the Duke students with the same results…
From the outset, the ‘accuser’ never told the same story twice. Charges should have NEVER been filed, I don’t care what the color of their skin was…. This is an idiotic ‘blog’ and I will not allow this clown question my intelligence…..

Posted by: I Think For Myself | April 13, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Terry seems to be using the same logic that a number of (ignorant) people used against the accusor in this case – basically “you brought it upon yourself.” This is one of the most ridiculous pieces I’ve read in quite a while. These young men DO desreve our sympahty. They were treated very harshly for something they didn’t do. Why even bring the Rutgers women’s basketball team in to this? The only parallel I can see is another journalist who doesn’t deserve his job….

Posted by: josh | April 13, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

I’d have paid good money to see the color drain out of Moran’s face when whoever it was told him his pathetic excuse for a blog article was just posted on Drudge.

Posted by: kneeslapper | April 13, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

The reason they recieved the media attention in the first place was because they were affluent white kids who had supposedly brutally raped a black woman. The attention they recieved afterwards was incidental. So yes, prosecutorial misconduct is very common, but this was not originally a scandal of prosecutorial misconduct. You’d think a journalist would know that.

Posted by: Steve C | April 13, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

What this “reporter” has written personifies why I have not watched any television for over three (3) years. I find television degrading to me as a white male.

Posted by: neil | April 13, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

This article and some of these comments here at outrageous!!! So what if they attend Duke? Do you really think it’s only because of their money? I am curious how many of you know how difficult is to attend Duke and play a sport there! Most of you have no idea. I have seen the kids attending Duke and 99% of them are very smart kids. So what if they are rich?! Let’s accuse Bill Gates of rape and don’t feel sorry for him … he is the richest guy on the planet. Zero logic in your article!

Posted by: Catalin | April 13, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Mr. Moran,
Your argument is incredibly flawed. Justice is supposed to be blind (remember the stautue of the chick with the scale? blindfolded!). That means that we do not try people based on race, social status, wealth (or lake thereof), unsavory practices, or even previous convictions. You’ve just written a piece that contradicts the basis of our entire legal system. If there are “so many other victims” I suggest you put your effort into that rather than moralizing. You’re no good at it.

Posted by: Dave Hunt | April 13, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Reason has left the building.
W :(

Posted by: W | April 13, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

ABCs Terry Moran Writes The Stupidest Blog Post Ever

Posted by: Below The Beltway | April 13, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Your attitude and the attitude of the other so called journalist on ABC is the reason I no longer watch ABC or support its advertisers.

Posted by: Don | April 13, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

So based on this logic, do we not feel sorry for the rich African-American women of the Rutgers b-ball team?

Posted by: jonc | April 13, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Wow, its nice to see that the media can stay impartial. You and all of your fellow broadcasters should apologize to the Duke Players. The stigma of being accused will follow you for all your life. I really hope you never get accused because you will have to eat your words.

Posted by: KC | April 13, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Typical comment by a ABC liberal who hates conservatives. No wonder ABC, CBS, and NBC are losing viewers to Fox!

Posted by: William Mattingly | April 13, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

why do liberals think it is a crime to be successful in this country. let’s not forget that the fact that these kids came from “privilege”, more than likely only means that their parents worked very hard to be successful. now you deride them for achieving the american dream and somehow, by your logic, we shouldn’t feel bad for them, that an overzealous and politically ambitious prosecutor, used them as a springboard to reelection. this kind of thinking is what led to the outrage in the first place –everyone so eager to convict them, just because they were “privileged”, including 85 Duke professors who signed that letter and who are eating crow

Posted by: george | April 13, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Reason has left the building.
W :(

Posted by: W | April 13, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

WOW, you must be a saint who has never in your life done something that others might not approve of. Way to show your ignorence and lack of social scope!

Posted by: Justin T. | April 13, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Just wanted to say that I’m greatly encouraged by many of these postings! It proves there are still intelligent, thinking, human beings in the U.S. I’m mostly referring to those who disagree with this pathetic journalist’s warped perspective (although I did see a small few capable opinions from those who agreed). Thanks for bringing logic, reasoning and the sixth sense/common sense back into the discussion.

Posted by: JP | April 13, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Time to have your moral compass adjusted, Mr. Moran. These young men suffered for a year under threat of serious jail time for something they didn’t do. I would think that clowns like you would applaud the vindication of the accused. Like you do when convicted murderes whine about getting another chance, another swing at the justice system.

Posted by: John E McDonald | April 13, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

When is Terry Moran going to call for a public apology by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to these wrongly accused student-athletes? After all, these two “civil rights leaders” publicly demonized these men and their families. If these were three black men wrongly accused of raping a white stripper, wouldn’t Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton be leading the charge in the media to demonize this prosecutor? Do “justice” and “civil rights” only apply to black people when it comes to these “reverends”?

Posted by: DOOK | April 13, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

“Feeling sorry” for these guys has nothing to do with the situation – nor does my approval or disapproval of their choice of “entertainment” have anything pertinent to do with the situation. However, I am outraged by the fact that this young woman, a self-designated “victim-for-life”, thought it was just fine to go after these guys (their parents, really) for money she’s too damned lazy to earn honestly. It’s equally outrageous that Mr. Moran thinks it’s okay. The ‘comfy world’ they are entering into does NOT condone rape (and it’s morally and socially distorted to claim this false accusation can be shrugged off). Terry Moran suffers a delusion if he believes the justice system will be strengthened by further misuse. That thinking is regressive and plain wrong.

Posted by: Daisy | April 13, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

This blog is wealth and class envy at its finest. People are where they are in life b/c of decisions they’ve made.

Posted by: log | April 13, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

I cannot believe I read what you wrote!! Ohmigod! Well I guess you work for ABC so that explains some of it!

Posted by: Pat | April 13, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

I don’t believe all these young men are from wealthy families. Just because they go to Duke doesn’t make them rich. What exactly are their families’ backgrounds?

Posted by: dillon | April 13, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Leave it to ABC News to slam the people who suffered the most in this case, the wrongly accused. Instead of dumping on the three guys whose lives were turned upside down, ABC should instead have used it to bring about reform of the system that indeed can be hard on those without means. I don’t recall ABC making the same judgment when OJ went free. What a biased report!

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

The arguement that we should not feel sympathetic towards these young men because it happens to other people is perposterous. We should feel sympathetic towards all who face false accusations regardless of economic or social backgrouds. These kids made average college age mistakes and instead of normal college reprocussions they had their lives ruined. Why not be sympathetic, background doesnt matter when injustice occurs.

Posted by: ARW | April 13, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Man…oh…man…are you some kind of special stupid! ABC’s talent scouts let this one slip through the cracks….ouch

Posted by: RTWarren | April 13, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Me thinks Mr. Moron was not very popular in College…

Posted by: DC | April 13, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Idiot!

Posted by: Raymond | April 13, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

The more important question to ask is who made this a high profile case? The media. The media sensationalized this case and splashed it across the print and airwaves. The media played up the racial diffences. The media chooses which case they will cover. They choose which cases they won’t cover.
Now Mr Moran is attempting to use class differences as a defense for the media’s actions and still trying to paint the victims (falsely accused students) in a less than favorable light.
Shame on you and the media.

Posted by: Fred | April 13, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

You are a moron, Terry Moran. Priveleged or not, this is an injustice to them, their families and their school. Just because they come from a different background than the accuser does not warrant minimalizing their rights in correlation to how connected or privileged they are perceived to be. The problems with are justice system lies not with these boys. It lies with the justice system. The media – yourself included- is also part of the problem.

Posted by: Nick | April 13, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

We shouldn’t feel sorry for wrongly accused victims? I’m offended. I’m outraged. Terry Moran ought to be fired for saying such outrageous things!

Posted by: Martin Wolford | April 13, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Terry,
You are nuts and another one who deserves to get the boot just like Imus. What an elite comfortable place you must be writing from to have no compassion for 3 young people falsely accused of a crime they could have gone to prison for 30 years over.
Its not a contrast with the Imus story, its a confirmation: Our media elites are insulated from real life.

Posted by: Ksren | April 13, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Not sure which is more surprising – that you really feel that way about the Duke players or that you were stupid and insensitive enough to put it in writing.

Posted by: Todd Dickinson | April 13, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

The best way I can respond to your contemptable position is to say that you and your fellow journalists will soon justify the implementation of restrictions to the first amendment. Restrictions similar to those in in UK should be imposed and you and your ilk should be sanctioned.

Posted by: Car Wash Guy | April 13, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

give me a break the medea outlits are all libs they want you to belive what they want you to here.
so what if they got good lawyers that there parents paid for.
look at oj simpsion he had a greatteam of lawyers and he was black.

Posted by: mel | April 13, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Terry — it is truly a sad day when a college student can’t throw a ripper with strippers and not expect some sort of repercussions… like losing their place on the lacrosse team or getting a bad reputation, maybe your employer isn’t so thrilled that you’re on the news for screwing around with strippers in a morally reprehensible setting… But hey! Nothing was illegal, so bravo! What ever happened to personal accountability? Excuse me for not weeping for these guys. They deserve to be exonerated in the court, but it doesn’t mean they are upright citizens.

Posted by: Dan | April 13, 2007, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Unbelievable! This is simply a case of wrongly accused student athletes who were the victims of the press coverage in addition to the prosecutorial misconduct. Terry – are you a reporter or an essayist? You sound very much like someone with an agenda. What do ABC News’ sponsors think of your critisism of the victims in this case? In the post-Imus world we live in you never know.

Posted by: Robbie G | April 13, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

it sure is easy for you to sit on your high horse and criticize we shouldn’t feel sorry. 2 kids won’t get to graduate, and the other barely did. These kid’s lives are forever tainted.

Posted by: Junk Drawer | April 13, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Moran is suspiciously close to moron.
His statements are at least as offensive as those of Imus; though he is probably too blinded by his politics to see it.
If the media were consistent, Moran would be out the door tomorrow for his idiocy (and Rosie would be right behind him).

Posted by: KSM | April 13, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

What a despicable post! So according to Terry, crime victims (in this case victims of prosecutorial misconduct) don’t “deserve” sympathy if they do bad things and/or are affluent. So let’s see… according to Terry’s logic an underage rich white girl gets raped at a frat party, and we shouldn’t feel to bad for her because she shouldn’t have been drinking and she can afford top notch health care, and besides there are thousands of other victims too. I can’t believe ABC News devalues their brand by publishing this kind of vile nonsense.

Posted by: anon | April 13, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Mr. Moran,
You speak of prejudice in this article of yours, but you are totally oblivious to the prejudice you have. Racism…bad,
but your Classism is just as bad.
Shameful. You should loose your job just a Imus did.
I love how you also totally gloss over the fact that this Nifong fellow used both the stripper and the boys in this case for his own political gain.
You in the media love scandal stories like that, but I wonder why you don’t report this one. Instead you try to discredit the wrongly accussed. Very telling

Posted by: Kris L. | April 13, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

If the accused happened to be black, would Mr. Moran care if they requested one white stripper and hurled racial slurs? Of course not!

Posted by: Sid | April 13, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Amazing Terry, simply Amazing… How about adding quotas to everything, EVERYTHING.
Just to make everything 50/50, let’s make sure half of all NFL running backs are white. Same goes for the NBA. oh wait, you’re telling me they’re basing things on TALENT? What is this new concept of ‘talent’ that you speak of?
Terrible. Reverse racism is still racism. Where does one draw the line?

Posted by: Terry is Terrible | April 13, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

The editorial is a way to distract from the possibility that the media may owe these young men an apology for the way they were treated. Don’t forget that it was the media that made such a big deal of it anyway, so they are to blame for the attention, deserved or not.
At any rate, this is another example of the public not getting objective news, but really being told what to think instead.

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Just based on that, I feel sorry for anybody that is wrongly convicted of a crime.

Posted by: AB | April 13, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

QUESTION: How can a reporter
get some extra attention on this
Duke case?
ANSWER: By posting an obnoxious
contrarian screed like this one.
Any attention is good attention.

Posted by: Phil | April 13, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Terry,
You should change your last name to Moron, only one letter difference, and much more fitting.

Posted by: james | April 13, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

These young men’s lives will never be the same. And now we know why we have sterotypes. If this woman doesn’t fit the bill, I don’t know who does! By the way, where is the apology from Al Sharpton?

Posted by: Jaden | April 13, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Privleged? Are you kidding me? I am the parent of a Duke student who is privleged to pay over $30K per year for my daughters education. She gets no minority preferential treatment. She is not an elitist but rather just a real smart girl who studied hard in high school to have the opportunity for a good education. She could have been a scholarship athlete but choose education over sports. All of us who went to college attended parties of which we are not proud. that doesn’t mean I had to spend tens of thousands of dollars defending myself against the crap in society who fail to understand that hard work and a good education keeps you from stripping for a living. It’s not a racial thing it is an character thing. To suggest otherwise makes you an elitist journalist with no more understanding of the issue then you have of concept of right and wrong. Good day, sir.

Posted by: Phillip D Jones | April 13, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Wow are you struggling to be a relevant reporter. This blabber is a sure sign you have nothing to offer the public. Get a job as a sous chef or something.

Posted by: Kevin B | April 13, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Here’s a question…What does being white and rich hae anything to do with this? If you are accused of a crime, in which the accuser has been proven in the past to have little or no credibility and the prosecuter has held viable information, wouldn’t you want to be cleared of these charges? Implying that it is okay because they are rich and white is showing that YOU are the one with a discrimination problem. It is indeed unfortunate that inoccent people are locked up every day, who may be able to prove they are didn’t do it if they had a high-priced lawyer. Look at O.J. He had the best money could buy. We all know that the justice system is not perfect, but it is a lot better than most of the rest of the world.

Posted by: Neil | April 13, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Terry Moran, you are a coward. You refer to the high number of wrongfully prosecuted persons, and criticize the media for failing to cover them. If I’m not mistaken, you are a member of the media. You could have covered some of these wrongful prosecutions, yet you chose to jump on the media bandwagon to accuse these students, without having all the facts. You chose to cover a story which was made to fit your ideological agenda – rich, white athletes abusing and violating a poor black woman. Only it wasn’t true.
And who is heaping praise on these guys? And who are you to unilaterally decide the social standing of the Rutgers basketball team as compared to these Duke players?

Posted by: Louis Gimbert | April 13, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Terry,
You should change your last name to Moron, only one letter difference, and much more fitting.

Posted by: james | April 13, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

“This further explains why the credibility of the mainstream media in this country continues to decline. They too jumped on the ‘guilty’ bandwagon like the DA with total disregard for the facts. Dan Rather and forged documents anyone? Maybe some good will come out of this. Maybe everyone will immediately question what they read and hear as far as the mainstream media is concerned instead of accepting it as gospel. Hopefully the boys will sue the heck out of Nifong, and the next prosecuter with an agenda will think before acting. Maybe white boys will stop inviting black women to their partys. Maybe black women will stop dancing nude for white boys.
I for one have a lot of sympathy for the boys. They will probably own businesses one day and hire a lot of people. If Nifong and the stripper would have had there way, we would be destine to slip further into the Welfare state mentioned above.”

Posted by: Derek | April 13, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Isn’t he using the flip side of the old defense of women abusers that “She was just asking for it”?

Posted by: Tony | April 13, 2007, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

ABC’s anti-white male bigotry is astounding.

Posted by: Ken Stewart | April 13, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

One word: Unbelievable.

Posted by: Mike F | April 13, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

According To Terry Moran, The Dukies Got special treatment

Moran claims that Reade Seligman, Collin Finnerty and David Evans received special treatment because:
They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.
Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.
Dur…

Posted by: Right Voices | April 13, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

When you are insane, which you clearly are, do you know that you are insane?

Posted by: mike smallwood | April 13, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

“well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized”
You have GOT to be kidding. Their reputations are scarred for life. I hope they include you in their slander and defamation lawsuit.

Posted by: saintknowitall | April 13, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Terry, honestly. I think you should be fired for these comments. They are about as offensive as Imus’ were and about a misguided and wrong as Rosie’s fanatical assertions were regarding 9/11.

Posted by: Alejo | April 13, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

You’re working off a false premise trying to compare this to someone of limited means or the Rutger’s women’s basketball team.
Everyone knows their names. They can no longer define themselves. They are defined by this incident. Twenty years from now, no one will remember the team, much less the names of the individuals Imus mocked. But whenever a high-profile rape charge is brought up, they will have to relive this over and over and over again with their names being dragged through the mud each time. Their 15 minutes will never pass.

Posted by: P.W. | April 13, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Terry,
You should change your last name to Moron, only one letter difference and much more fitting

Posted by: james | April 13, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Wow. What insight in to the author’s thinking. Notice the blatant racism in his statements. He assumes the Rutgers women are not “privileged.” How the heck does he know that? In addition, what if the players asked for only black strippers???

Posted by: WOW | April 13, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

All of you who post comments about the fact that these boys come from wealthy families….you sure sound sour and I’d hate to be in your bitter shoes!!! What miserable lives you must all lead. If all of you would get over your bitterness and stop feeling sorry for yourselves, you might make something out of your own lives. It is this mindset that puts America’s greatness at risk and is rolling out the red carpet to SOCIALISM!!!!! Bye the way, expected of ABC.

Posted by: Kirk | April 13, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

I can’t believe that ABC tolerates this hate speech by one of their employees. This reporter needs to be terminated.
I am joking but were are not too far away from this.

Posted by: gotero | April 13, 2007, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Terry, your comments are anti-white and anti-wealth bigotry of the worse kind. Disparaging young atheletes, innocent of crimes they were falsely accused of because of their color and economic status. It isn’t their fault that they were born with light skin. Isn’t this America? Is it now illegal to have the means to defend oneself? Regardless of their personal moral issues, we cannot disparage these atheletes any more than we can the basketball players at Rutgers for simply being who they are. You also insult the Rutgers ladies by generally assuming that they are all of a lower economic status than the Duke players. Do you know that for sure? Patently offensive and you should be fired a-la-Imus !! Let’s get Al Sharpton and Oprah on this one right now.

Posted by: johnk | April 13, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Hey Terrance … just hope I’m free to watch what I want to, when I want to when you are goose stepped up the courthouse steps by an out of control prosecutor.

Posted by: anticipatin' | April 13, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Terry, can’t you liberal writers just be objectively once in awhile? Do you have to use the race card every time you write about things that are deemed racist by you and your peers? This country is never going to come close to being together as long as you write this way. You are the reason Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are not out of a job.

Posted by: John D. | April 13, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Terry, you cannot be this ignorant. When you write “And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”, don’t forget that the reason you and the rest of the media enthusiastically began covering this case was that the accuser was a minority, and perpetrators were not. Now that the true victims turned out to be not what you were rooting for, you spew out this nonsense. Grow up.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

So let me get this straight? A half-crazed, publicity and vote-hungry prosecutor goes after 3 innocent men to advance his own sorry career, probably ruining their lives FOREVER and we’re not to feel sorry for them? Is that what you want us to believe? Regardless of their race, gender, or place in society this whole case was an outrage! Nifong should be the focus of the media’s attention. The media should focus on the plight of less ‘connected’ people in our country who are at the mercy of prosecutors like Nifong! Shame on you! And shame on the media for making this a class issue and not what it really is. Mike Nifong should be the name on the lips of every reporter in this country until he is disbarred, and in jail for what he did!

Posted by: mike | April 13, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Riiigght. Even though they were completely innocent, they still have to be guilty of something because they’re from rich, white families, right? We can all assume from this article that Terry Moran has never been to a strip club in his life and has never done anything less than admirable (like still find guilt where there is none). Pathetic. Mr. Moran probably grew up exactly the same as these young men, but he finds guilt in them.

Posted by: PRidge | April 13, 2007, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Very well said! For all those who are screaming “How dare you!”, they are willfully ignoring the salient point of your article. I am glad you had the guts to articulate this point, completely missing from the media.

Posted by: CH | April 13, 2007, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Terry,
You are a race-baiter, pure and simple. You, and people like you, are the problem in this country. We will never get color-blind justice when people like you use race as a justification for different treatment. The honorable thing for you to do is resign now – before the sensible people in this country demand you be fired.

Posted by: Todd | April 13, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Why does the author dislike the men so much? Because they have money? Petty and jealous. Justice is blind. Mr Nifong made this case the big deal that it became. He is the one that made this a race case.

Posted by: Brady | April 13, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Riiigght. Even though they were completely innocent, they still have to be guilty of something because they’re from rich, white families, right? We can all assume from this article that Terry Moran has never been to a strip club in his life and has never done anything less than admirable (like still find guilt where there is none). Pathetic. Mr. Moran probably grew up exactly the same as these young men, but he finds guilt in them.

Posted by: PRidge | April 13, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

You are an elitist moron – so typical – demonize the wealthy – they’re rich they must have dome something wrong. Your comments sicken me. Open your eyes and think for yourself, and find some other way to absolve yourself of your white guilt.

Posted by: VK | April 13, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

the world according to terry moran, pretty high minded of you.wow you are an elitist. how high is that ivory tower you live in?

Posted by: ed | April 13, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Moran (more appropriately: Moron), you should be fired just as quickly and as surely as IMUS was fired, for your totally thoughtless commentary. Whatever ABC pays you for such imbecillic rantings, it is way too much. You and all the other news airheads are why I never watch NBC, ABC, or CBS for news. And I retired from GE who owns NBC.

Posted by: patrick sullivan | April 13, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Sympathy shouldn’t be a consideration here. The fact that the three Duke players had adequate resources to obtain legal representation is external to the case. The truth of the situation is that they were falsely accused, and the accuser faces no consequences for her actions. Lack of accountability seems to be a theme in racial relationships where caucasians are fair game to any minority or interest group, but if a caucasian responds to defend herself, or expresses an opinion about a minority, then she’s a racist.

Posted by: Mike Garrison | April 13, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

holy smokes! were you ever an athlete? how would you like it if your athletic career were ended on this note? what if it were a sport you’d trained for since you were about ten years old? ten years of working toward a national championship run ended by a nutty psycho beach! i don’t think the punishment fits the crime here. they hired strippers for a party. that was dumb. however, lots of guys do this dumb thing and it ends right there. it destroyed all these guys had worked for.
what if your writing career ended today just because of this dumb article? would the punishment fit the crime there? after all, this piece of crap you’ve penned is, in fact, a crime…

Posted by: button | April 13, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

By your logic, we shouldn’t feel too bad for the young gentleman in New York and his friends who were shot 50 times by the police because after all, they were visiting a strip club.

Posted by: Dustin | April 13, 2007, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

I get it. This is a late April fools joke right?

Posted by: Larry | April 13, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

At last we see that moralistic attitudes are not the monopoly of the religious right, but are alive and well with our very enlightened class of journalists. Puritanical repulsion to strippers? But I thought you guys loved Lawrence v Texas which said all such matters are expressions of liberty?!

Posted by: Tocqueville | April 13, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Terry, Terry…Let’s remember why all this happened. The three young men where charged by a prosector who should have never brought the case in the first place because he broke the basic rules of attorney’s, and he will lose his license and reputation. The Duke men will overcome this in short order, even though their names will be associated with this for a long time. But’s let not say we shouldn’t feel too sorry for them because they had the means to defend themselves. The were accused of RAPE. If you want to take issue with other examples of injustice in the system, then why don’t you spend you time on those cases instead of supporting a story and being a part of the problem instead of the solution. Stop being a part of the “drive-by media” and report the real stories inherent in the system that you highlighted.

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

First of all I will feel sorry for whomever I choose. Second what in the world would possess someone to write something as awful as this is? Hate those rich college boys do you Moran? Your rough upbringing must be the cause of your angst.

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

I never want to be in their shoes either. The fact is if they were like most people ensnarled in prosecutorial conduct, we would never know their names.

Posted by: A guy | April 13, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

So your point is that it’s ok that these guys were falsely charged because other people have been too? Your point is that if someone does something stupid in college they deserve to be accused of a crime they did not commit? Your point is that since the family is upper middle class it is ok that they were wrongly subjected to millions of dollars of legal fees? And your point is that since they are spoiled white boys that the agony they endured these last 13 months is acceptable? You really have lost all sense of yourself. Your article has nothing to do with this case, or justice. It has to do with promoting race and class warfare, which is part of what drove this misguided prosection from the get-go.

Posted by: GB | April 13, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Terry:
Don’t feel sorry?
Who in their right mind would wish this experience on anyone? A year of hell, orchestrated by the very news service you work for?
Are you some kind of idiot?

Posted by: Ken Muller | April 13, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

You should be ashamed of yourself! These 3 were accused of a horrific crime and pre-convicted in the court of public opinion, despite lack of evidence. A year later, all charges dropped and they’ve been declared ‘innocent.’ Not just ‘not guilty,’ but ‘innocent.’ Yes they were able to afford quality legal representation, but they were still wronged and deserve many apologies. Just because they are wealthy white boys does not make what was done to them any less hurtful.

Posted by: Ben | April 13, 2007, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

I feel sorry for you Terry, so poor a writer you need to rush to be the first contrary reporter in order to make a name for yourself. Just like Nifong, unable to succeed on your merit, you both take the shortcut. Good luck, Hack.

Posted by: Rich | April 13, 2007, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

So I guess you’ve never been to a party of any kind at which a stripper performed. And I guess you have no preference whatsoever when it comes to the race of women you’re attracted to. You, sir, are a saint!

Posted by: Reader | April 13, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

The points raised in this article are largely irrelevant. How you feel about the *legal* conduct of the boys that night should have no bearing on whether they “deserved” what came to them. As a previous poster said, injustice is injustice.
ABCNews loses another reader.

Posted by: Jon | April 13, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

These are 3 young men who were ostrasized from society for over a year for a crime they never did. Who cares that they partied and ordered stippers; most college guys do. who cares they asked for a white stripper; we all have sexual preferences. they had nothing to do with other prosecutorial misconduct cases, so feel bad for them because that is the fair and compassionate thing to do!

Posted by: Gregg | April 13, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

When I was in college (many many years ago), my firendds hired a stripper on my 21st birthday. Does that mean I’m not upstanding enough as a citizen to deserve just treatment? I should be okay to falsly accuse me of rape? You liberals love to pick the winners and loser, don’t ya?

Posted by: ernie | April 13, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

This was such a foolish blog. You state there are other cases never covered by the media. The only reason this case was covered by the media was because they were three rich white boys. If it had been three poor hispanics accused of this with a black stripper we would have never heard about this outside of a possible local media outlet. The three rich white boys from Duke deserve the same justice as anyone else. Poor or rich. Just because the stripper was poor doesn’t mean she can accuse falsely anyone she chooses.

Posted by: Rich | April 13, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

The points raised in this article are largely irrelevant. How you feel about the *legal* conduct of the boys that night should have no bearing on whether they “deserved” what came to them. As a previous poster said, injustice is injustice.
ABCNews loses another reader.

Posted by: Jon | April 13, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Not every student that goes to Duke is rich. Some of them actually worked their butts off and got scholarships. Some are working two or three part time jobs to help pay for their tuition. As for these boys, I didn’t know that they were “rich”. I am guessing that their parents may have money to help get them there, but that also doesn’t mean that the parents are rich either. I have a brother with three kids in college and he works 16 hour days and his wife works 10 hour days. They have a nice house and nice things but they are far from rich!
I also don’t undertand why we shouldn’t feel badly for these kids. Is it that we are not allowed to feel for injustice unless the person is black? This is going to follow these young men forever. No matter what they do in life, or where they go. Who knows what damage this will do to any of them down the road, rich parents or not!

Posted by: Erin | April 13, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

These are 3 young men who were ostrasized from society for over a year for a crime they never did. Who cares that they partied and ordered stippers; most college guys do. who cares they asked for a white stripper; we all have sexual preferences. they had nothing to do with other prosecutorial misconduct cases, so feel bad for them because that is the fair and compassionate thing to do!

Posted by: Gregg | April 13, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Hey Terry,
Why dont you pay the families legal bills?

Posted by: lilvinnyb | April 13, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

When I was in college (many many years ago), my friends hired a stripper on my 21st birthday. Does that mean I’m not upstanding enough as a citizen to deserve just treatment? It should be okay to falsly accuse me of rape? You liberals love to pick the winners and loser, don’t ya?

Posted by: ernie | April 13, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Terry Moran should get Imused for writing trash like this.

Posted by: Steve Shifflett | April 13, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Well, make a complete trio of pitiful news agencies who feel they alone set the moral agenda of the country and stand judgemental of all.
I hope it happens to you, then we’ll see how flippant you are.
ANYONE…(no matter creed, race, religion) treated as they were deserves compensation. They should sue Sharpton and Jackson, too, along with the DA and Duke University. They are all elitist hypocrits as you are.

Posted by: James Troscinski | April 13, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Another typical liberal article condeming people because they have money!
What an idiot you are……

Posted by: Wanda | April 13, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Terry Moran should get Imused for writing trash like this.

Posted by: Steve Shifflett | April 13, 2007, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

it couldn’t be more obvious that you had nothing to say, you just churned a story out because you saw that there was an opportunity for counterpoint. you have no idea what you are talking about. you are an idiot terry morgan, just a cog in the machine that is today’s worthless “journalism”.

Posted by: copeland | April 13, 2007, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Terry Moran’s observations are so myopic and reflect an underdeveloped intellect. He should not be provided a platform which would provide any validity to his statements. Stunning that ABC News would maintain an association with him.

Posted by: J Lenander | April 13, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Finally someone said exactly what I was thinking. Terry Moran is right. These three young men were wronged by the legal system (and a false accuser), and that is horrible and should be recompensed in whatever way possible (and the false accuser should be held accountable). However, these three young men are NOT morally admirable people in my view. They are not to be emulated, praised, heroized, or valorized. I went to college in a similar environment, and it can breed a callous, above-it-all carelessness on issues of race, privilege, class, the proper treatment of women, etc. I would never want any son of mine to grow up to be like them.

Posted by: Kelly | April 13, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Finally someone said exactly what I was thinking. Terry Moran is right. These three young men were wronged by the legal system (and a false accuser), and that is horrible and should be recompensed in whatever way possible (and the false accuser should be held accountable). However, these three young men are NOT morally admirable people in my view. They are not to be emulated, praised, heroized, or valorized. I went to college in a similar environment, and it can breed a callous, above-it-all carelessness on issues of race, privilege, class, the proper treatment of women, etc. I would never want any son of mine to grow up to be like them.

Posted by: Kelly | April 13, 2007, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

amazing that you get paid to put your thoughts on paper.

Posted by: t | April 13, 2007, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

thank you, your true colors come shining through on this one, liberal koolaid indeed

Posted by: cq | April 13, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

This is typical main stream media garbage. I feel bad for anyone who is wrongly accused. You sir are an idiot.

Posted by: Bob Sloop | April 13, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

I hope you read some of these comments Mr. Moran and that you consider how worthless your words really are in the face of time.
It’s nice that you make a salary and feel important because so many read your words.
Consider in your quiet time that your words are not even really original and you are simply another painted up marionette in the puppet show that the American media has become. Congraulations on your degree.

Posted by: Ralph Cramdon | April 13, 2007, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Terry Moran’s observations are so myopic and reflect an underdeveloped intellect. He should not be provided a platform which would provide any validity to his statements. Stunning that ABC News would maintain an association with him.

Posted by: J Lenander | April 13, 2007, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

you are an absolute moron.

Posted by: billy | April 13, 2007, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

You have no sympathy towards young men wrongfully accused of rape then humiliated in front of the world! have you lost your mind. Last time I checked, stipping was legal. If you have a problem with that you have a problem with the accuser, men who go to legal strip clubs and woman who go to legal strip clubs. Its sounds to me that you are envious of the quality of life your parents provided for you! And no, these young men will ot be able to “just” go on with life after this. They now have a stimgma and a permanent mark in public history.

Posted by: Daryl | April 13, 2007, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Terry Moran, Your blithe attitude toward the fate of these three young men and the cold-blooded calculations of Nifong and the accuser is utterly despicable.

Posted by: Morenuancedthanyou | April 13, 2007, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

This just sounds like ABC. No wonder you are loosing to FOX and the internet. No wonder Matt Drudge beats ABCNEWS in the online ratings. No wonder traditional media is dying- you don’t have a clue. And just like Ford and GMC, you are too stupid to open your eyes to change.

Posted by: Csarles | April 13, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

The backgrounds of the Duke players and the Rutger’s basketball team are irrelevant. One group was suffered a verbal insult while the other was subjected a witch hunt. That’s an apples and oranges comparison. You are a moron.

Posted by: S. Davis | April 13, 2007, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Don’t you people get it!!!??? forget the story because there’s a bigger story here… I’ve just spent the last hour reading these comments and made an astute observation.
ABC news (and CBS-NBC)is so out of touch with mainstream America it hurts. About 95% or so of the comments here are anti ABC. Don’t these idiots get it?? People are fed up with BIASED reporting. No wonder the internet is fast becoming the next un-biased and MAJOR news source.

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I believe that ABC should terminate you just like Imus was terminated.
You are a disgrace.

Posted by: forethebetter | April 13, 2007, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

I will say one thing for you Terry. You sure did get a rise out of people. Wow!

Posted by: fred | April 13, 2007, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

You are so very wrong in your analysis. Nifong went after these men solely for personal gain. He should be dis-barred and put in jail. Hiring strippers is not a crime, falsifying evidence is.

Posted by: Vincent | April 13, 2007, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

I will say one thing for you Terry. You sure did get a rise out of people. Wow!

Posted by: fred | April 13, 2007, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Are you trying to equate justice with affluence? You do not make minimum wage and you would spend what is needed to clear you name if wrongfully accused. One of the young men alluded to the fact that they were able to continue a defense because of their families position and expressed a sense of compassion for those who are not as fortunate as they. Obviously you never did anything as reckless as be at a party in your youth. You must have been one boring dude. Your sense of moral indignation is misplaced or are you simply trying to create something that is not there to impress someone or to pander to a cause or group or were you not able to play a sport? When there is a miscarriage of justice against anyone of any class, we as a nation are diminished somewhat. We should celebrate that true justice prevailed and remain vigilant against any form of injustice that these three men went through.

Posted by: Ervin | April 13, 2007, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Terry Moran – another absolute IDIOTIC, SELF-RIGHTEOUS, ARROGANT “journalist” on the left. What a bozo.
ABC should be EMBARRASSED to have you on their payroll!
Oh… now I get it…, you’re a shock-jock trying to get attention for stupidity – that’s what ABC News has become.

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

I do feel sorry for them.
It was not right or just.
Always Remember two wrongs don’t make a right. Falsely accusing people of rape, not matter what the color is disgraceful.
May we end the hate and bigotry of this world by treating all as equals and with justice. Let’s end the past wrongs and start the future as a equals to be judged by our character and merits.

Posted by: Tony Porto | April 13, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Why shouldn’t the young lady who reported a crime that didn’t happen be charged? Who cares about the financial well being of these families. THERE WAS NEVER A CRIME COMMITTED!

Posted by: mike | April 13, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Terry. Some idiot wrote the most stupid piece I have ever read and signed your name to it.

Posted by: Chuckie | April 13, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Unbelievable that so many people think this is no big deal. The reckless behavior was calculated ONLY because they were white and presumably well to do. And, to say what happened to them was partially their own fault because of their legal behavior, is like saying a girl deserved to be raped because she went into a bar with a very short dress.

Posted by: allyn | April 13, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

This is the perfect article to showcase all that is wrong with the modern media.
When enough of us have had enough then you’ll all be gone.
It’s getting closer every day.

Posted by: Cliffy | April 13, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

This article was the most inane thing i have ever read…dont feel sorry for the guys who have been dragged through the mud, slandered, caused to incur millions in legal fees and forever tarnished in the public eye because of a lie? Ludicrous…this is more offensive than Imus

Posted by: JP | April 13, 2007, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Is it Terry Moran or Terry Moron? You have got to be kidding me here… Just what “special” treatment did these guys get? Was it that they were falsely accused of rape or is it that they were able to have justice prevail? Terry, you are a symptom of the liberal society that thinks you need to feel guilty for being well off… spare me..

Posted by: R Findlay | April 13, 2007, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

this guys an idiot. That doesn’t change the fact the we need to find a solution to the pervasive problem of reckless prosecution that the lower and middle classes can have access to. If those kids had been poor, regardless of race they’d be in jail right now. think about that for a second.

Posted by: dave | April 13, 2007, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Apparently Terry Moran can’t forgive these players for their most unforgivable sin, being white and affluent.
Peddle class & race hate somewhere else Terry, oh wait, your position allows you to peddle this tripe to the world.
What a travesty!

Posted by: AaronZ | April 13, 2007, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Curious to know if in the reporting of this story Mr. Moran you described the “strippers” as strippers or “exotic dancers” when referring to their profession. Not sure about you , but many in the media made sure to note the distinction when referring to the accuser.
But now you are sure to point out that “They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.”
I’m not sure the point of your blog here, but it seems a bit distatefull.

Posted by: George | April 13, 2007, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Terry Morgan displays ignorance and makes some assumptions here that just might not be true. Is this the kind of journalism that ABC can be proud of?

Posted by: Nelson Struck | April 13, 2007, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Terry Morgan displays ignorance and makes some assumptions here that just might not be true. Is this the kind of journalism that ABC can be proud of?

Posted by: Nelson Struck | April 13, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Mr. Moran certainly seems as interested in pursuing and promoting a class warfare angle as he does pointing out the injustice that was done to these men. Regardless of race or social class, prosecutors nationwide have been given far too much trust and power over the citizens who elect them. Perhaps the plight of these “priviledged” young men might be the catalyst needed to change the attitude of blind trust given far to often to our locally elected prosecutors and law enforcement officials. If so, everyone can thank these young men and their legal counsel. It probably would not have occured had they been poor, black, or both.

Posted by: Eric | April 13, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

The really sad thing about Morgan’s pitiful excuse for a commentary and the obviously impassioned responses on both sides of the issue is that virtually all of the age-old prejudices in this country were evoked by the situation. Let’s face it, we cannot “just all get along.” It’s part of the human condition, black or white, privileged or not, politically aspirant or not. For heaven’s sake, look at the many examples down through history of humankind. As Kurt Vonnegut so aptly said, “So it goes.”

Posted by: Alan | April 13, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

To suggest that these young men are unsymathetic because you believe they are “privileged” is an insult to the very idea of fairness. You debase yourself by such resent filled thinking.

Posted by: Joe P. | April 13, 2007, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Terry,
As long as you are so concerned that Colin Finnerty was previousy arrested for assault, why didn’t you mention that this accusser also falsely accused three other men of rape back in the 90′s?
If you’re so concerned about the lack of morality in these men in hiring a stripper, please remember that this accusser was pregnant by one man while married to another.
And if these weren’t rich white boys attending an ivy league school, they most likely wouldn’t have been accussed of this crime to begin with, and tried and convicted in the media and by the rest of Duke University before their case even went to trial.

Posted by: teri | April 13, 2007, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

This article is an embarrassment. No one deserves what happened to them. Your comments are indecent, compassionless, and almost gleeful that some kids got a kick in the teeth just because they went to Duke or have parents with money. That’s just wrong.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

You’re an Idiot!

Posted by: Alex | April 13, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Here’s what this helpful posting demonstrates. For today’s rich and pampered media pontificators, being rich and pampered but not in the media is the greatest crime of all. It trumps injustice itself as the most egregious injustice and gives preening fools like Terry Moran that which they most need — a chance to play the part of moral arbiters for us all. Or perhaps he’s just angling for a faculty position at Duke.

Posted by: Jon Burack | April 13, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

This kind of journalism makes me absolutely sick. Terry Moran and those like him are part of the problem in America media today. These kind of pathetic people believe it’s acceptable to put the blame on anyone of priviledge whether they deserve it or not.
I agree that these Duke players put themselves in a bad situation based on their actions and choices that night. But does that mean it’s still OK to place blame on them simply because they can afford the legal defense?

Posted by: Mike M. | April 13, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

It is exactly this kind of “yes, but…” justification that is the problem with the liberal media today. The entire reason the media jumped on this story in the first place was the underlying hatred of wealthy white males, and the ecstatic realization that they might get their come-uppance. Tawanna Brawley ring a bell?

Posted by: steve p | April 13, 2007, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Never once did I hear that the players took responsiblity for their actions. Afterall, it is the defendants that put themselves in a position for this to happen. They owe an apology to their family, friends and school for putting everyone in this situation. This does not ‘justify’ the wrongful accusations but how about some self accountablity.

Posted by: John | April 13, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Are you kidding me? These kids lives’ were ruined. NO matter what they can never get their normal lives back. They ordered strippers? Who cares? 95% of all men will be entertaied by strippers at some point, who will gladly take hundreds of dollars in a willing exchange for their entertainment. Stop treating grown women like children and holding them to different standards of men. Its not time to move on, its time that our society realizes how sick it is. These 3 men were supposed to be immune from bias because of their race and gender, instead they were targeted because of it. If that isn’t a wake up call, I don’t know what is. This editorial is shameful and gutless.

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

You sir, are truly a moron. You ought to be ashamed.

Posted by: John Roda | April 13, 2007, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Terry, you’re a very stupid man in my opinion. How you got to where you are today is beyond me.

Posted by: Belinda Schloss | April 13, 2007, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Wow, there goes any respect I ever had for the “journalism” on Nightline. You’re basically saying that since people without privileges don’t get justice, the Duke lacrosse players shouldn’t. And that we shouldn’t feel bad that their lives were ruined when their names were splashed across the national news. And apparently the less privileged don’t hire strippers? You know, the basic message that these guys were relatively better off than many others who are falsely accused of crimes is true, but that has nothing to do with the justice in this situation.

Posted by: Beth | April 13, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Imus’ comments were spontaneous and off the cuff. This hateful diatribe was intentional and considered. Disgraceful!

Posted by: Bob Miller | April 13, 2007, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Thats it for ABC news. You folks
make Fox look good.

Posted by: Bob Joyce | April 13, 2007, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

It is not their FAULT that they were born into some advantages, no more than those who are born into situations without those advantages. YOU KNOW Nifong tried to take advantage of them. What people don’t get is that college men of ALL groups feel they have advantages over women. I’d like to see them take their privileges and really help others. I think two went to Catholic high schools – if they didn’t know better before, I hope they do better now

Posted by: andie | April 13, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

I’ve been falsely accused. It’s no picnic, even though I retained my job.

Posted by: Tony C | April 13, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

What pathetic socialistic drivel! Because their parents worked hard and earned a good living, the boys should not be pitied after a gross social injustice. Class warfare at its worst. I can’t believe how far our media has sunken in the past few years. There is no longer any pretense to hide the bias. Terry should follow in the footsteps of Don Imus.

Posted by: JC | April 13, 2007, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Wow – don’t feel too sorry for guys wrongly accused of rape because a.) there are other people wrong accused of stuff, too b.) they have money c.) they got strippers and asked for at least one white one…
You’ve really got a perverted sense of justice – sick. Just because someone has money and privilege doesn’t mean they deserve the kind of hell these guys went through.

Posted by: IMUStBdreaming | April 13, 2007, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Fire Moran! His complete bigotry certainly offends not only me but most people on this running commentary. Let him wallow in his own leftist pity. Then we get Sharpton next.
THE BACKLASH STARTS HERE!!!

Posted by: Jimmy Martin | April 13, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

We shouldn’t feel to sorry for them because they were able hire good lawyers?
So we shouldn’t feel sorry for the Edwards and the cancer diagnosis because they can afford a good doctor?
Wrong is wrong. It was a hellish year for them. They have my sympathies as does anybody who’s been falsly accused.

Posted by: Kalden | April 13, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Wow! Who burst your bubble?

Posted by: Gail | April 13, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

I am dumb founded. We live in strange times. On the one hand, Don Imus is appropriately drummed out of his profession for his completely inappropriate and distasteful remarks. Are Imus’ comments that different in impact because he used street language or is it the demeaning message these words signal. (Imus could have said, euphemistically, that these young ladies played like a bunch of hardened inner city gang members – still inappropriate and distasteful and wrong.) Mr. Moran’s comments, in my opinion, fit this same category of being inappropriate and in incredibly bad taste. The three Duke players at this point deserve either a no comment or to be used as an example of why it is important for the justice system to deliver justice to the accused. Moran’s article is a cheap shot designed in part to shock – just like Don Imus. ABC should consider taking a look at the appropriatenesss of Mr. Moran’s article.

Posted by: Bernie | April 13, 2007, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Figures. ABC News has been leaning more to the left than ever these days. I thought liberals were color blind and caring?

Posted by: Jon | April 13, 2007, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

I can’t hire a stripper and I can’t hire one that is white? What a bunch of self serving garbage. I suppose we all deserve to be paraded in front of prosecutors and have our lives threatened with destruction for living a normal American male life. That is what this is all really about. Isn’t it. An elite agenda, bent on destroying young males and their culture at any cost. Especially white ones that go to college,join fraternities, drink beer and try to have a fun time doing it. You are a sourpuss.

Posted by: Big Man | April 13, 2007, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Moran,
You know what they say about opinions. It’s just too bad you have the leverage of a national news outlet behind yours.

Posted by: JB | April 13, 2007, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Memo to Moran: You, sir, are an idiot who clearly is showing bigotry against a particular racial and socio-economic class.
Time for you to join Imus on the unemployment line. Racial and class hatred should not and must not be tolerated and I call on every citizen to boycott Disney-run businesses until you are terminated.

Posted by: ced lee | April 13, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Sounds like somebody has some envey issues.

Posted by: DavidG | April 13, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

I really don’t believe what I just read. Three men and their families lives were turned upside down due to lies, false accusations and an overzealous prosecutor with a selfish immoral agenda. Then I read a comment about not feeling sorry for them because they are white. I can’t put a color on justice or injustice and I must say that I feel sorry for every man or women that has been sent to prison that was innocent regardless of their color.

Posted by: Rick D | April 13, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

What a sad, sad world we live in. Political Correctness has corrupted our society and in the shortrun, not the longrun, it will destroy it.

Posted by: Jay | April 13, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

All of you who post comments about the fact that these boys come from wealthy families….you sure sound sour and I’d hate to be in your bitter shoes!!! What miserable lives you must all lead. If all of you would get over your bitterness and stop feeling sorry for yourselves, you might make something out of your own lives. It is this mindset that puts America’s greatness at risk and is rolling out the red carpet to SOCIALISM!!!!!!!

Posted by: kimpy | April 13, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

What a sad, sad world we live in. Political Correctness has corrupted our society and in the shortrun, not the longrun, it will destroy it.

Posted by: Jay | April 13, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Terry you are a complete MORON…you need to be beside Rosie on the view…we will call it dumb and dumber…no more ABC for me.

Posted by: Frank | April 13, 2007, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Mr. Moran, congratulations on demonstrating your moral bankruptcy and commitment to the standard left-wing tactic of stoking the fires of class envy.
The very publicity that the media have heaped on this case exacerbates the damage done to the accused. It’s a shame that the media can’t be held liable for that damage.

Posted by: James Jones | April 13, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

What goes wrong with someones moral compass too the point that everything is viewed through a racial prism? Terry, I hope you aren’t this morally vanquished?

Posted by: Andrew Bryant | April 13, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Perhaps CBS ought to find someone less magnificantly chuckleheaded to fill this position.
Please confirm that you’ve never chosen to observe an X rated movie, read Playboy, gone to a strip club or done anything prurient in nature in order that we take you seriously.

Posted by: Jeff Rifken | April 13, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Once again, a member of the elistist media shows his true colors. You are an ass and another reason I don’t watch you and ABC.

Posted by: Aric Giddens | April 13, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

I too am amazed at the media’s exagerations of the duke imus innocidents. So much more important things to report on, and they focus on this silly drama for their own selfish gains.
I bet countries like Iran are loving that our media is more concerned about strippers and jokes made in bad task than about their race to get nuclear arms.

Posted by: Illinois | April 13, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

SAY WHAT? I get it, because they are white they don’t deserve any sympathy. Thats what this article is all about deep down. Because they are white they deserve to be falsly accused of rape, kidnapping and anything else the DA can come up with.I am so tired of the liberal hypocrisy in this country. Even when a white guy is innocent, he is guilty.

Posted by: MARK ERVIN | April 13, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Holy cow! And I thought Imus was an idiot…
ABC – this is the sound of your channel being blocked at my house. Good riddance!

Posted by: Jason O | April 13, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

You are worse than Imus. Thank God they had awesome lawyers or they might be headed to jail. You would be happy with that I am sure.
Hopefully someone with more class
and higher morals than Twana Sharpton
will be asking ABC for you to be fired soon!

Posted by: Milton | April 13, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

This article is outrageous! Their families legal bills were estimated at 3-5 million dollars. I don’t care how well healed you are, this can bankrupt a lifetime of savings! and for what, blind ambition?

Posted by: Greg M | April 13, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Just a matter of time before the main stream media takes another shot at these kids. Haven’t you had your way with them for 2 years? Way to go ABC! Your liberalism shines bright.

Posted by: Erik | April 13, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

What goes wrong with someones moral compass too the point that everything is viewed through a racial prism? Terry, I hope you aren’t this morally vanquished?

Posted by: Andrew Bryant | April 13, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Don’t blame Terry, blame political correctness. It has formed his opinions and governs his behavior. Forget about a career in the media if you ever stray from its straight and narrow.

Posted by: Banjo | April 13, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

One more thing, I can’t seriously see how it is offensive to crack racist jokes about the Rutgers Womens basketball team but ok to malign, prosecute and accuse male Duke la cross players of rape. It shows that everything the media reports is liberal bias. There isn’t even any sense to it. You should lose your job. I am offended.

Posted by: Gordon | April 13, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

SAY WHAT? I get it, because they are white they don’t deserve any sympathy. Thats what this article is all about deep down. Because they are white they deserve to be falsly accused of rape, kidnapping and anything else the DA can come up with.I am so tired of the liberal hypocrisy in this country. Even when a white guy is innocent, he is guilty.

Posted by: MARK ERVIN | April 13, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

You had best look in the mirror, I believe your skin has turn green from envy. Is your left hand tired from writing this manure? People ask me why I am leaving the Democratic party for the independent way and I point them to people like this who have taken over the party. I hate to leave after 50 years, but I cannot take this thinking any more. Oh, well, perhaps I will be lucky and not live to see what the idiots do to this once great country they are trying to tear down.

Posted by: J. Moore | April 13, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Wow! What an amazingly cruel thing to say. I really hope that in your life time that you never have to experience what these three young men had to endure. Being accused of rape and the other charges. If convicted their lives would have been pretty much over. These young men could have faced decades languishing in prison. And this asshole tells us that we should not feel “Too sorry for them”? I say that you should be fired and ABC sucks.

Posted by: Thomas | April 13, 2007, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Terri you make it sound like these legal fees are just a drop in the bucket for these families. In reality you have no idea what these families have sacrificed to afford the tuition at Duke and now the legal expenses. I do feel sorry for these young men and their families, I also feel sorry for you. I pray one day when need compassion others are willing to give it to you, even though you are incapable of giving it to others.

Posted by: Becky | April 13, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

You sir are complete idiot!

Posted by: Alex | April 13, 2007, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

You are one piece of slime!

Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

What is it Terry?
Class envy or attempt at incitement of class warfare?

Posted by: BigPike | April 13, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

This is an attempt at rationalizing the media’s own guilt in encouraging Nifong to rush to the Grand Jury. It was the perfect media story – one Nifong successfully used to win the DA election. Sorry Mr. Moran, the Duke Three are innocent..and the media was no better than Nifong. How’s it feel?

Posted by: Karen | April 13, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Call out the national guard. College males hire strippers! Lets give them 30 yrs in the pen and rob them of thousands of dollars for defending themselves against something they didn’t do. Let’s not have any sympathy for them because other people have been wrongly accused. That horrible white privledged Reade Seligman said he is keenly aware of people without their families means. But he’s just a jerk. Let’s let these white guys ride it out and suffer because some suffered the same fate and they have to play the collective price. You sound like most of the faux intellectuals that missed the sixties and feel coollective guilt and envy for not being there. You have to make up for your absence by promulgating some addled ideas of fairness to assuage your collective guilt. Your an idiot

Posted by: Mario Savio | April 13, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

This is the most despicable article I have ever read. So if one is rich it’s okay to falsely accuse them just because it happened to someone who wasn’t. Good God, what have we come to that a pompous “reporter” can pass judgement on who we should feel sorry for. Can anyone accuse you of something Terry and put your life on hold and because you have more money than I do, no one should care. Despicable piece of work you are.

Posted by: LIC | April 13, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Talk about Friday the 13th… now this is scary!
Mr. Moran, this blog post is probably one of the least intelligent things an intelligent person has ever written.
Good luck trying to earn your credibility back with me.

Posted by: Paul | April 13, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Well we’ve all fallen for the old media trick of gravitating toward a confused and mostly idiotic opinion.
Nice work Terry and ABC. All of these comments mean $$ for you.

Posted by: John Keogh | April 13, 2007, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

I feel bad for anybody wrongly accused of anything. Moran goes too far, though, saying not to feel bad for these guys.
He does, however, make an excellent point that the media does not cover prosecutorial misconduct, which should be one of its number one priorities.
Prosecutorial misconduct causes great suffering. Therefore, this is a subject as worthy to be covered as the day-to-day actions of Congress or the President.

Posted by: Scott Darby | April 13, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

The author of this article acts as if they are privieged through some fault. The fact that these men are well off does not change the fact that they were slandered by Mr. Nifong and that he effectively ended their professional careers before they even had the opportunity to begin.

Posted by: Turner | April 13, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

So, because they come from families who worked hard to achieve some measure of success and provide for their kids, they deserve to be wrongly accused of rape? Do you honestly think these families had millions just sitting around to hire the best attorneys to defend their children, who were wrongly accused of a crime? If one of my sons was accused by a liar of a crime that could ruin his life at such a young age, I would work as many jobs as I had to to hire the best attorneys to defend him.
Sorry, but I for one feel very sorry for these kids. Having money doesn’t mean you don’t deserve sympathy and compassion when something devastating occurs in your life. You sound like one bitter, angry man.

Posted by: Lori | April 13, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Terry Moran should keep in mind that the media focus on this case began long before there was any indication of prosecutorial misconduct. This story was worldwide news from the outset, back when the media, along with the Duke faculty and many social activists, tried and convicted the three Duke students right out of the chute. Their glee in attacking three “privileged” (yet innocent) students was no better concealed than Terry Moran’s obvious disappointment in the eventual vindication of the students.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Is this opinion representative of ABC? I think it is? Is this opinion representative of the majority of the media? Apparently so. And FoxNews is called “right wing”? Then where is the middle ground? Jackson and Sharpton couldn’t find a better publicist than Terry Moran. ABC should be embarrassed by this column. If Imus should be fired, then Moran should at least be suspended for this premeditated (unlike the Imus comment) attack on innocent victims.

Posted by: greg | April 13, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

If Nifong wrongly victimized these students, then he should deal with his unjust behavior. Having said that, I guess I find it hard to really care too much about this story. Why again, should I be captivated by these guys who were unjustly accused. Now, and throughout history, this has happened. What makes this news story so news worthy. Are there not more pressing issues. I wish people would get this fired up about the war in Iraq, the genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan, or America’s inability to provide viable choices for energy. I mean come on.

Posted by: kEVIN | April 13, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

What an ass! I used to like Terry but I have no respect for him anymore.

Posted by: carolyne | April 13, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Terry Moran = moron.
What a ridiculous post that was.
S.T.U.P.I.D.

Posted by: Hammer | April 13, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Terry,
Man you are clueless.
Living in the insulated world with Ms. Couric, Rosie et. al. sure has warped your ability to use your noggin! The only thing the Dukies and the Rutger incident have in common is you and Imus don’t know how to formulate coherent thought.
Rock on dude!

Posted by: Rich | April 13, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

your sick, even worse than Imus
the kids were innocent

Posted by: alan marcus | April 13, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Talk about elite. The only elite in this article is the elite liberal writer. What a loser.

Posted by: D. Marshall | April 13, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Behavior like this happens every night at local strip clubs and much more than $800 is spent a night. These boys did nothing wrong.
Terry you’re an idiot.

Posted by: Koz | April 13, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Terry Moran should keep in mind that the media focus on this case began long before there was any indication of prosecutorial misconduct. This story was worldwide news from the outset, back when the media, along with the Duke faculty and many social activists, tried and convicted the three Duke students right out of the chute. Their glee in attacking three “privileged” (yet innocent) students was no better concealed than Terry Moran’s obvious disappointment in the eventual vindication of the students.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

If Nifong wrongly victimized these students, then he should deal with his unjust behavior. Having said that, I guess I find it hard to really care too much about this story. Why again, should I be captivated by these guys who were unjustly accused? Tragedy, yes. National news story worthy of attention, I’m not so sure. Honestly, they sound a little shady anyway. Now, and throughout history, this has happened. What makes this news story so news worthy. Are there not more pressing issues? I wish people would get this fired up about the war in Iraq, the genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan, or America’s inability to provide viable choices for energy. I mean come on.

Posted by: kEVIN | April 13, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Did I read you right? “And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.” YOU are the media. What a hypocrite, you missed the entire point. What shoft cushion did you pen this from? No wonder people are miffed at the media.

Posted by: mike | April 13, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Don’t feel sorry for the Duke lacross team players??? Nifong indicted in a rush to play upon existing community racial tensions to secure his election as District Attorney. Sorry folks, but Nifong is well educated, he comes from a good family and he knows the right from wrong. He deserves more than a simple reprimand. Just think what would have happened if the accused suspects had been a few good old white boy truck drivers, without benefit of the resources available to the Duke susepects. They’d already be in prison. Shame on Crystal Gail Mangum, if she can feel any.

Posted by: David Mc | April 13, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

This was, by far, the worst piece of journalism that I have ever come across. Simple as that. The incredibly long list of comments above show what an idiot you just made yourself look like.
A la Imus, I thing ABC should fire you.

Posted by: arnie | April 13, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

WOW….took a true moron to make a post like this…WOW

Posted by: Harry | April 13, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

They requested “at least one white stripper”? So what? Now the PC police are in my pants, and will castigate my sexual preference (which happens to be white women) too? Sheesh – what a moron. If they wanted a white stripper, they should receive a white stripper – period.

Posted by: Dave Rain | April 13, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

You refuse to sympathize with white males who were falsely accused. Yet (judging from your photo) you ARE a white male. It looks like you’re yet another example of liberal self-hatred. “Who are we white males to complain about injustice when everything’s our fault.” I suspect you’re a victim of political correctness indoctrination at some “elite” college. I hope that someday you will apply some critical thinking to that indoctrination.

Posted by: Kraznaya Zvezda | April 13, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Wow – until this moment I never really understood what an idiot Terry Moron was.
Thanks for making it easy for me.

Posted by: Roger | April 13, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

I can only shake my head ruefully & wonder about the origin of Mr. Moran’s rambling path of logic.

Posted by: Russell Haak | April 13, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

HEY! Last I checked, it’s not a CRIME to be be WHITE, and it’s not a CRIME to be rich. There sure are a lot of people in this country with a negative view of rich people, when they aspire to be rich themselves. Yeah there are rich lowlifes, but there are plenty of poor ones too. These men are innocent, and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Mr. Moran,
Your comments are as racist as Don Imus’. Your only saving grace is that your comments are against white men. If Imus should be fired, you should be fired.
Political Correctness has already started the next clash between blacks and whites. Our country is no better now than before affirmative action. Affirmative action and political correctness is and has breed angry from whites who never discriminated and now are being put down because of previous generations.

Posted by: ThisOldCub | April 13, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

So, if I’m a rich musician who comes down with cancer I can use my affluence and position of privilege to “bring attention” to a problem and I’ll be branded a hero. But if I’m a rich white kid who stumbles into a fatal flaw in our legal system, and “bring attention” to it (not by choice, mind you) I’m not to be pitied.
Oh, I understand. You’re REAL problem is that because of Michael Nifong (D-NC) you are pretty much guaranteeing that these three will never vote Democrat for the rest of their privileged lives.

Posted by: Derek | April 13, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

I guess justice is not quite as sweet if it’s obtained by someone you don’t like (and your dislike is based on mere superficial perception. Aren’t liberals always saying we need to understand each other better before passing judgements?) Once again the legendary liberal qualities of tolerance, caring, and goodness shine through. I’ve had more than one liberal friend tell me I’m too nice to vote for anyone but Democrats. Frankly, I’m insulted.

Posted by: David Andersen | April 13, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Moran is another example of the disgraceful driveby media. Does anyone wonder why they have diminishing numbers and credibiltiy? They have nothing positive to offer. Hopefully the next generation will have the character which Mr. Moran has apparently lost.

Posted by: Joel | April 13, 2007, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Yes, and not everyone wrongly accused by a reckless prosecutor gets their names splashed across the TV and newspapers and internet like these 3 did. Maybe if the media didn’t try to prove people were guilty BEFORE they went into a court of law it might make a difference. Instead they went out of their way to destroy these 3 men’s lives because of an accusation. We have let the media become our Judicial system, and it needs to stop – then we wouldn’t have to listen to self-righteous reporters try to downplay how bad we should feel for them since they GOT IT WRONG.

Posted by: Charles | April 13, 2007, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

How could you have an agenda regarding the Duke boys. The DA lied and did eveything he could to hurt them when he know he was out of line. The Women lied and should be prosecuted. I hope Wilfong is barred from practising law, as well as you should be barred from being a writer. You sir, are so far to the left that you can’t see or speak the truth.

Posted by: Ed. Horowitz | April 13, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

I see that, while you continue to print the names of the falsely accused, you just can’t bring yourself to say the name of the accuser, Crystal Gail Mangum.

Posted by: Nathan | April 13, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

I am very happy I no longer watch ANY news from the old networks – most of these talking heads are mere idiots, others are deeply prejudiced against America, morality (and lack same) and work ethic (especially their own).

Posted by: George Hein | April 13, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Terry,
Your comments are unbelievable. And to think Imus was fired for making a bad joke while here, your comments are no joke and they show your true colors and the contempt you have for individuals that you see as “priviledged” and thus not deserving of any sympathy. Unbelievable! You sir, I think need some counciling for the bitterness that you carry around.

Posted by: Don | April 13, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Now I understand! Racism is ok. Just so as it is the rich white that we all hate.

Posted by: Erick Matzke | April 13, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Terry Moran, the poster boy for empty headed, biased, elitist, moronic, journalists. Here’s to hoping thaqt the flourishing of alternative media puts morons like this out of business. Terry you are an empty suit. Long live Fox News!!!!

Posted by: DJL | April 13, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

What male college student or future groom has not been to a party with a hooker? Isn’t that the male right of passage? And what difference does it make if they requested one of the hookers be white? That doesn’t make them racist – afterall, they’re white boys aren’t they? Why do you have a problem with that? So, Terry, you’re saying (from your high horse) that they don’t deserve our sympathy for being falsely accused or for the torture they and their families have endured this past year because they come from white parents who earn good money? Are you a socialist, Terry? I’m sure you make a good buck working at ABC News. Should we hold that against you?

Posted by: diane remarx | April 13, 2007, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Terry. You are an idiot.

Posted by: Craig | April 13, 2007, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

i had this blog bookmarked and visited daily, looking forward to terry moran’s latest post. not anymore.

Posted by: Edwin | April 13, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Imus Vindicated, Duke Lacrosse Case Dropped

Free at least, free at least, thank god almighty, the Blue Devils are free at last.
North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper, who took over the case from embattled Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong after he was charged with unethical conduct, ha…

Posted by: Celebrity Justice | April 13, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

You sir are a fool. I am sorry you wasted your time writing this and I hope no one that you know is every accused of something THEY DIDN’t DO!! Thank you for contributing nothing.

Posted by: Geoff | April 13, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

If the Duke kids WERE guilty of rape, would Moran be saying, “Don’t feel too sorry for the stripper – she chose to put herself in a line of work where these things can happen”?

Posted by: M | April 13, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

I don’t see the problem in their request for a white stripper. After all, they were paying $800 for the service. If it were my money, I would have been very clear about all the details, right down to cup size, lipstick and eye color.
You can hate the fact that rich white people are in the media more than other races, but the MSM are the gatekeepers. You could stop spending all your time on Anna Nicole, Natalee Holloway (sp?), etc and cover real stories.
The facts of this incident are that 3 young people were falsely accused, maliciously prosecuted, and publicly slandered. That overshadows their race and their trust fund balances. Anyone focusing on racial is either a racist themself, or simply doesn’t give a damn about the rule of law.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

I guess Terry is a choirboy when he is not reporting the news. He never attended a stage party or went to a stripe joint when he was in college or any other time for that matter.
I would say boycott ABC “News” but ABC “News” doesn’t need anyones help in driving away viewers.

Posted by: Phil Gingerella | April 13, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Can you say O.J. Simson
Money and high price lawyers got him off two murder charges.

Posted by: Kur t | April 13, 2007, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Terry,
You are so far off-base with this blog item, I don’t even know where to begin. Your credibility as a legitimate “news” reporter is shot. Maybe you and Mike Nifong could find a joint business venture in the near future.

Posted by: Mary | April 13, 2007, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Terry, you are a complete tool.

Posted by: Ed Bellows | April 13, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

I hope they fire you Terry!…

Posted by: Phillip | April 13, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Terry, your views are truly appalling. Not only were four young men falsely accused of rape, dragged through the mud by the national media (not to mention the Duke faculty, and self-appointed “leaders” like Al Sharpton), and threatened with decades-long prison sentences, but now, an individual like you with a public platform compounds the injustice by attempting to minimize the ordeal the young men have endured and by smearing them once again as “privileged,” “racist” (you imply this), spoiled brats. How dare you. The points you list have nothing to do with the gross miscarriage of justice these boys experienced. You want the public to view these young men with disgust. Why? They are the victims, remember? Why don’t you pick on the lying accuser and the prosecutor, a criminal who was willing to destroy four people and their families in order to get reelected??? I am stunned and sickened by your twisted “thinking.”

Posted by: Olivia | April 13, 2007, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

You really are a piece of work.
The soft racism of elites like you never fails to present itself at the most inopportune moment.

Posted by: Mugne | April 13, 2007, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Your an idiot!

Posted by: Dakota Hines | April 13, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Your an idiot!

Posted by: Dakota Hines | April 13, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Wow.
Terry, What color is the sky in your world.

Posted by: jld | April 13, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

SITUATIONAL ETHICS

Posted by: blackfin | April 13, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Wow.
Terry, What color is the sky in your world.

Posted by: jld | April 13, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

You will never have to face answering this employment question “Have you ever been arrested?”, “For what charge?”. They will have to answer this question for the rest of thier lives. The bigger issue is that most defendents can not afford the cost of trial and some end up faulsely convicted

Posted by: Lou | April 13, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

“The Dukies aren’t upstanding citizens”?
Says who?
The press?
And you believe the press because…?

Posted by: Joseph | April 13, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Terry,
You have now proven what all the right wingers say about you is true. Typical abc PC bull !

Posted by: roxo56 | April 13, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

As a retired journalist, I am astounded at your posting. I covered rape trials where the defendants wer3e guilty and where they were found inocent, but never in my career did I ever witness such a reckless prosecutor or such reckless journalism. Had it not been for cable TV shows like Greta and Hannity & Colmes, these guys would have been railroaded as you indicate blacks have been. What you are saying rates right up there with the irresponsibility of Sharpton, Jesse, and yes, Imus. You ought to be ashamed

Posted by: Floridaboy | April 13, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

To keep it terse; Terry, you are an idiot, plain and simple.

Posted by: Randy | April 13, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Is your post supposed to represent intelligent thought?
Please don’t deceive yourself. Perhaps you are getting a great paycheck and people pretend to take you seriously but you are not a person to be taken seriously just patronized and pitied.

Posted by: al_miller | April 13, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Terry Moran is a racist!!!
Just because these boys are white, and he BELIEVES they are well off he thinks they don’t deserve sympathy. Also, just because most of the Rutgers team is Black, he GUESSES that they are not well off. He’s worse than Imus, and that’s pretty bad.

Posted by: Fred Fraenkel | April 13, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

I can’t believe Terry Moran would write this. This is unbelieveable. I will never watch ABC news again.
Among many things in his article, I dont understand his logic in making the following statement:
“Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.”
Is requesting a white stripper supposed to be racist?
If they had specifically requested a female stripper would they have been considered sexist or worse, homophobic?

Posted by: Paul in NYC | April 13, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

All comparisons are odious.

Posted by: Rich White Guy | April 13, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

You’re an ignorant elitist. Because they are white and rich means society should be harder on them? Your one sided slant is the reason racism still exists. Wake up and treat people equally.

Posted by: Bill K | April 13, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Terry Moran,
What a joke! It amazes me how you people in the media just think you are so much smarter than everybody else.
You judge these men guilty when you were not even there. Then the truth is revealed that they are innocent and you have the gall to tell us not to feel sorry for them. For being falsely accused!!!
I am amazed that ABC even gives you a forum to speak such pathetic drivel. Your logic is completely backwards.

Posted by: Doug | April 13, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Your remarks are utterly stunning in their stupidity.

Posted by: db | April 13, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

In a true system of justice, the false accuser would get the punishment that the the innocents were facing. Everyone wants to talk around the false accuser. She is guilty by virtue of the pronouncement of the defendants’ INNOCENCE! We have no justice system!
Phil

Posted by: Phil Beverly | April 13, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Terry Moran is a racist!!!
Just because these boys are white, and he BELIEVES they are well off he thinks they don’t deserve sympathy. Also, just because most of the Rutgers team is Black, he GUESSES that they are not well off. He’s worse than Imus, and that’s pretty bad.

Posted by: Fred Fraenkel | April 13, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Sheep Dog,
I think I love you. I laughed so hard at your analogy. How perfect. Yes, Terry, you are a kool aide drinker and it is people like you that are taking this country down the entitlment toilet.

Posted by: Bug | April 13, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Mr. Moran
Your comments are truly very disgusting and reprehensible. What you are doing here is basically attacking these young men’s character using basically unsubstantiated rumors, outward appearances, and what apparently is YOUR belief in what is proper and unproper behavior. These comments, in fact, tell us more about YOUR character than theirs.

Posted by: Larry | April 13, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere

Posted by: Veritas | April 13, 2007, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

You have got to be kidding. They had to retain high priced attorneys because this woman lied when she accused them of rape. Did they make bad choices, yes. what college kid doesn’t.
They did not commit the crime they were falsely accused of. They had their names spread across the country by the national media who jumped to conclusions about their guilt. As far as criminal records, how about the accuser? What is her criminal record?
Because of people like you in the national media these young men had their names smeared for over a year. It’s people like you in the national media who should be ashamed of your actions.

Posted by: David Trueblood | April 13, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

What’s up with ABC NEWS. No coverage on the unindicted co-conspirator hit men Reverands Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who acused the Duke men, won’t apologize, offered the lying victim a scholarship. The only thing to be revered about them is there skills in wielding power over the press and american industry.

Posted by: Fred Fraenkel | April 13, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

what does this say about the character of elites on the nightly news? unbelievable sentiments from a used-to-be respected journalist.

Posted by: Mearsheimer | April 13, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Terry Moran, you are despicable.

Posted by: Jay` | April 13, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Are you kidding me?!?! Because they requested a black stripper, because they hired strippers, who by the way were strippers for hire, the legal system worked. Here is what you are saying; they should be prosecuted or persecuted for being white men of privelege and acting boorishly by having strippers and getting drunk. My God haven’t you ever done anything that you aren’t proud of or at least been to a bachelor party. This whole thing disgusts me!!

Posted by: Chris McLean | April 13, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Raciel epithets?
PROVE IT.
End of story

Posted by: john smith | April 13, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Mr. Moran
Your comment is reprehensible an disgusting. Basically you are saying we shouldnt feel bad for these kids, and what they’ve given up and lost, because of their character. And you base your opinion of their character mostly on unsubstantiated rumors, outward appearances. This tells us more about your character than theirs.

Posted by: Larry | April 13, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

This is the class warfare that got the media involved in the first place. Shame on this reporter.

Posted by: revo | April 13, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

This analysis is so wrong on so many levels that it drove me to do something I never do-respond in writing! Guilt by presence and association is a novel, but ridiculous concept. You owe use all an apology for having to read this.

Posted by: BR | April 13, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

In their press conference one of the 3 Duke players did say that he was fortunate to have the financial resources to battle the DA and he wonders what happens to others who do not have the resources. Moran can’t even give them credit for that. Guess Moran was hoping for conviction like the teachers at Duke.

Posted by: Leo Batfish | April 13, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

its not often a member of the media takes the time to prove all the negatives about the people in the media actually exist. your post is nothing more than poorly played class warfare. Whats more important is that your views are reflected in your reporting (interview of the VP). Voice your opinion proudly, but dont ever disguise it, or affect your delivery of what is expected to be objective reporting.

Posted by: LT | April 13, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

It took over a year for these “Well Paid” Lawyers to have charges dropped, and it wasn’t because of their work…..What if the were not well connected?? What if they did not have “resources” There is a real problem in the United States and I do not think you understand it. When Jesseie Jackson can call NYC Hiymetown and not be called on the carpet, but a shock jock is fired for shocking????
We have bigger problems. As Ann Coulter said to Imus quit apologizing….

Posted by: BobH | April 13, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

At least lawyers have a professional bar and enforceable standards of ethic to adhere to in their profession or workplace. Terry Moran apparently has neither grace nor character, which is rather sad given his ability to infect others with his distateful commentary.

Posted by: Jus Cogens | April 13, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Yeah so what if there privileged A. Don’t jump all over some kids for being born into it! B. Anyone in their own right mind that has access to what they had in terms of lawyers and what not to help them get the charges dropped would use what they have!
I guess we have a reporter that just needs to fill some time and space. Weak weak article if you ask me.

Posted by: Kyle | April 13, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Terry. You are, simply put, a disgraceful human being.

Posted by: CDog | April 13, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Yeah, I’d say they are VERY differently situated from the Rutgers team. For starters, they’ve lived the last year+ of their lives in danger of going to prison for 30 years for a crime they didn’t commit… but what’s worse, journalists like yourself- whose hypocrisy is absolutely maddening- have irrevocably tainted their lives. Perhaps you’d belittle your own family members if they were to suffer through a similar injustice? After all, your contract would surely placed you and your children and into the same tier of ‘presumed guilt’. Wake up- be responsible.

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Poor Terry. He must have went to a community college. Didn’t your mommy ever tell you that life is not fair?

Posted by: baker | April 13, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

This happened to me over 20 years ago. I was accused in the press by a city law enforcement official of being involved in a criminal activity. I was a young executive of a fortune 100 company and was innocent. In light of the bad press tot he company I was asked to resign without compensation. No charges were ever filed, yet it followed me to every job, as employees who were my peers (read competitors) would start a behind the scenes whisper campaign. I finally had to move out of the area and start over in a new industry. I was ultimately able to retire before 50 quite financially secure. Success is the best revenge.
In today’s internet age I would never have had a chance. These boys will NEED compensation..

Posted by: xxxceo | April 13, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Terry Moron!! Heh, bet you have never heard that one before.

Posted by: WGM | April 13, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

All day long, right-wing nutjobs have landed here from Drudge and the National Review to lambast ABC’s new head moron for what they call his liberal journalism. It ain’t liberal journalism, jugheads. It’s ignorance, just a different variety than your own.

Posted by: Hank | April 13, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

I see why you are stuck doing two bit news stories….

Posted by: Randy | April 13, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Moran is part of the “unbiased” media? Give me a break. Even when this elitist snob is proven WRONG about the rape case, he just can’t resist giving the INNOCENT players an immature slap, trying to slander them further. White guilt, anyone? Grow up Terry, you are the old media, and a black-hole of a human being.

Posted by: Amos Mitchell | April 13, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Congratulations Terry. You have just caused an affluent consumer (me) to be sure that he never watches ABC News again. Your self-loathing attempt to indict the establishment from which you so willingly reap rewards is the height of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Mark | April 13, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

I must say that this is the most disingenuous piece of garbage I have ever read from someone who calls himself a journalist. You should be fired for such race-baiting innuendo. How dare you say that you think the three boys from Duke came off easy because they come from affluent families. They deserved to be fairly treated in the justice system as any other person who enters our court rooms.

Posted by: Carol | April 13, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Terry Moron,
It’s this kind of liberal drivle that led to the media piling on in the first place.
“Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.”
Your inability to get it right, even with hindsight, proves you should follow Imus out the door.
You don’t deserve to represent unbiased reporting, let alone ABC news.
You’d better hope Sharpton and Jackson agree with you.
Then again, there was never any doubt about allegiances.

Posted by: Hal | April 13, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Don’t feel sorry for the Duke Lacrosse players?????????????
Don’t feel sorry for them???????????
I’m sorry, but they passed the hat and put up $800 – and got CRYSTAL.
What a rip!
Man, I feel for them. All of them. Totally.

Posted by: Sam | April 13, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Mr. Moron, err, Moran: in the last few days I have heard some amazingly stupid things from the press regarding Imus and the Duke case but you have topped them all. It is not the Duke boys fault that their parents have money. Or that they are good enough at lacrosse to get a scholarship. Sounds like you are genuinely jealous of them. The girl LIED and almost ruined their life. It doesnt matter how privileged they are. Are you telling us we should not feel sorry for rich people? They dont have feelings? This is truly the most moronic statement I have heard about this case yet.

Posted by: Da-derLong | April 13, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Terry Moron,
It’s this kind of liberal drivle that led to the media piling on in the first place.
“Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.”
Your inability to get it right, even with hindsight, proves you should follow Imus out the door.
You don’t deserve to represent unbiased reporting, let alone ABC news.
You’d better hope Sharpton and Jackson agree with you.
Then again, there was never any doubt about allegiances.

Posted by: Hal | April 13, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Terry Moran is only trying to draw attention to himself. Typical for those in his profession.

Posted by: Doug | April 13, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

I must say that this is the most disingenuous piece of garbage I have ever read from someone who calls himself a journalist. You should be fired for such race-baiting innuendo. How dare you say that you think the three boys from Duke came off easy because they come from affluent families. They deserved to be fairly treated in the justice system as any other person who enters our court rooms.

Posted by: Carol | April 13, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

I must say that this is the most disingenuous piece of garbage I have ever read from someone who calls himself a journalist. You should be fired for such race-baiting innuendo. How dare you say that you think the three boys from Duke came off easy because they come from affluent families. They deserved to be fairly treated in the justice system as any other person who enters our court rooms.

Posted by: Carol | April 13, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Wow, I find your reasoning severely flawed. You can look at a crime but cannot look beyond someones skin color or supposed status. The lives of these boys have been seriosly damaged. As I tell my kids…nothing good happens after midnight.Sure they hired a stripper ( both side made a mistake here) but you somehow feel this justifies how they were treated. Kicked out of school, a coach lost his job and the spent a lot of $$$$ that kept them from being rairoaded.

Posted by: Alan | April 13, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

your article reeks of class envy and personal bias. Good for them that they were able to afford the lawyers necessary to establish a true sense of justice. I think the question to ask is why is that the legal system is set up to where large sums of money are necessary to be able to prove innocence. It’s also horribly sad that so many people presumed these boys’ guilt immediately, without hearing further evidence. The case brought out racial attitudes that obviously are permeating our society.

Posted by: chris | April 13, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Your column is outrageous. This sort of hatefilled diatribe which so characterizes ABC must end. How dare any ABC employee or “journalism” graduate make a moral judgement on anyone for anything. This is the heights of hypocracy.

Posted by: Kate Stonehedge | April 13, 2007, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is.
Can you substantiate this at all or are you just pulling it from thin air?

Posted by: Droite | April 13, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Terry, you are right about one thing (and maybe only one thing) – there is too much uncovered prosecutorial misconduct in this country. Why don’t you make it your mission to cover this misconduct and be the go to guy in the media on it? Sort of like the niche Chris Hansen has carved with online predators. You would be doing a worthy service to the public, you career (quite honestly, I am only vaguely familiar with your name and I think that is only because Mo Rocca might have made fun of you in his book about the White House press, but in any event I don’t know your journalism). It wouldn’t be very hard – find cases where a conviction is later overturned on sound grounds, or even more interesting, where the judge dismisses the case or the jury finds for the defendant. You could probably fill a weekly hour program with these stories and if done right, you could really have something interesting in your body of work.

Posted by: Viewer | April 13, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Of all the bigotry and hate I have seen spouted in this entire case, this takes the cake. This mans class bating and hatred for these men who were wrongly accused is a insult to professional journalists everywhere. This man should be fired.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

This was one of the most mean spirited editorials I have ever read. Terry seems to almost gloat over the fact that these three young men were wrongly accused of a heinous crime by a prosecutor seeking votes in the black community.
For shame, Terry, for shame. May you, or any children you have or will have never have to be subjected to the same treatment to which these three young men were subjected.

Posted by: Rudy | April 13, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Shame on the reporter. Shame on the stripper, Nilfong, Sharpton, Jackson, and the media. All of them.
The only thread I perceive as valid is the characterization of the Duke community. It and other elite ivy towers are full of those (not all) who take privilege and use it. Birds of a feather flock together. I have never believed that a student/faculty member from same are any more equiped for life than he/she who learns at a junior college or lesser institution. Mention this outloud however, and only a sly knowing grin will surface. Many just believe they are more deserving. Whee!

Posted by: A 70 year old | April 13, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Somewhere Tom Wolfe is laughing his ass off.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Your logic is beyond belief. Because of injustices heaped upon others, that makes it totally acceptable to do what Nifong did.
Your moral equivalency is exactly what I would expect from the mainstream media.

Posted by: Greg Grapsas | April 13, 2007, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Oh my God. Terry Moran you should be fired immediately. You have always been filled with hate.

Posted by: Zek | April 13, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

TERRY
If you pretend this post never happened you will lose all credibility, as if you haven’t lost it already to all those who have read it.
I think you should meet with the three Duke individuals and offer them an apology.

Posted by: Janet | April 13, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Terry Moran, you’re a Moron!

Posted by: Fred | April 13, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Terry, the depth of your stupidity is astounding. I thought better of you, but as one journalist to another, you are a disgrace to your profession. As Mark Twain said, it is better to say nothing and let people think you are stupid, than open your mouth and prove them right. What made you spew that nonsense about college students who might have wealthy parents being less entitled to their constitutional rights than others? Who cares who their parents were or what infractions they might have committed in the past. These young men were indicted on false rape and imprisonment charges, they could have been sentenced to life in prison if convicted. Their faces and names were splashed across every TV screen and newspaper in the country, they were thrown out of school, their coach lost his job, their lacrosse team forfeited a whole season, and at least one lost a job offer over nothing. They could have been killed on the street by some crazed defender of the lying stripper. And hiring strippers for a college party is no crime. Lots of us have done it and there is nothing wrong with requesting blondes, brunettes or whatever. They were paying $800, after all.
By your skewed logic, the New York groom who was shot to death by police on the day of his wedding should not be mourned because he happened to be at a strip club the night before he got around to marrying the mother of his two children. But you wouldn’t have the guts to say that, would you? Hypocrite. But thank you for reminding me why I tune into the Colbert Report or the Simpsons rather than Nightline every night. I am not missing anything and I hope you get fired for your stupidity. You are as dumb the president, and that is saying a lot.

Posted by: Dermot | April 13, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

i call for the resignation or firing of terry for racist comments against the duke players. we will boycott cbs until he is fired for hate speech against nice white college students athletes.

Posted by: todd | April 13, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Oh my God. Terry Moran you should be fired immediately. You have always been filled with hate.

Posted by: Zek | April 13, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Yes, there are a lot of cases of prosecutorial misconduct.
They don’t tend to be played out on NATIONAL TV.
The Duke players were completely and thoroughly railroaded and deserve nothing but our empathy and support.
I love this “Well, they experienced what blacks experienced” line of thinking. Apparently, the complaint ISN’T misconduct by prosecutors, but that whites aren’t victims often enough.
That is some GOOD logic there.
-=Mike

Posted by: MikeSC | April 13, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

This column was TIC, right? The liberal cliches were too sterotypical for this to be real.

Posted by: Chris Furniss | April 13, 2007, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

ABC I will no longer watch ABC news as long as Terry Moron is a reporter for your network. Please fire him as I’m writing ABC News sponsors about his hate speech about the Duke victims.
Thank you.

Posted by: james prodder | April 13, 2007, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both.
LOL!
Terry, YOU’RE the media. Why don’t you do something about it, instead of whining about what you’re not doing?

Posted by: sjones430 | April 13, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Please fire this fool.

Posted by: toe | April 13, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

ABC news is plummeting into the toilet because of liberal numbskulls like you. Why don’t you take a real assignment on the frontlines in Iraq.

Posted by: scorn drive-by media | April 13, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Your take on this is appalling given your opinion smacks of class-envy and some stunted view of justice. I would expect an employee of ABC News would have a more worldly sense of right and wrong but thank you very much for correcting me here by demonstrating that you suffer from what most journalists are afflicted – selective myopia of opinion that appears to be activated by sheer ignorance of the seriousness of the charges. If some liar accuses you of rape and her only defense turns out to be class envy or, worse, her racist views, I wonder if you will simply select a state-provided attorney or would you opt for the best legal defense you can possibly afford. You, sir, are the definition of inane.

Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2007, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

I’ve saved this “blog” – which should be called “DRECK.”
Personal jealousy over the “lucky sperm club” should never taint a professional opinion.
ABCNEWS should remove this page immediately.
There’s no difference between this blog entry and what Imus said.
I hope that if there is a lawsuit against the media in this case (like the Olympic Bomber case) that “Terry Moran” is listed at the top.

Posted by: W. | April 13, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Moron (spelling?)…this is the U.S. where one is innocent until proven guilty. And guilt was not proven. Please just stick to the facts.

Posted by: dave | April 13, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Terry moronic moran should be named Tawana Moran the Moron who disgraces Nightline and Ted Koppel by posting class-war garbage.
This creepy lil degenerate should talk to his much smarter brother Rick and get a verbal spanking for being such a moron. Terry Moron is the right name for this little creep, who dares to shame the seat that Ted Koppel sat in with such honor.
This class-warrior should be fired by ABC, or at least date Nancy Grace for charm lessons! Terry and Nancy are in a class by themselves.
Mangum is clinically insane and should be locked in a room with Jesse Jackson to learn how to be completely crazy, yet make a good living with ridiculous rhymes and no thought-processes to speak of.

Posted by: daveinboca | April 13, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Rich or Poor, the effect of injustice is the same.

Posted by: scott | April 13, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

This article rebuts this ignorant collection of word vomit better than I ever could.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

I’d like to know Terry Moran’s background. As a reporter he must have had considerable means to get through school and survive until he finally found a job.
I am too busy paying the bills to track it down, so if anyone can post a link I’d like to know where his money came from.
Thanks

Posted by: DonT | April 13, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Injustice does not discriminate rich from poor. It has the same effect on everyone involved.
Your narrow minded view is astonishing.

Posted by: scott | April 13, 2007, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

It looks like some media folks don’t learn from their mistakes. Accusing these three boys of hurling racial epithets at the these strippers as if it were a fact! We already heard the media accuse these boys of rape as if it were a fact. Before a responsible journalist makes a statement like this he must lay out his proof. If its the word of the strippers it just does not wash.
Oops I get it. Yes that would take a responible journalist.

Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2007, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

More ‘enlightened’ liberal nonsense. One of the most smarmy and childish editorials ever written. Just another of the myriad of daily examples of elitist liberal bias.

Posted by: Doug | April 13, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

Thank you, Terry, for putting it straight. Guilty or not of rape, this boys are punks; well known for bad behavior, some of it criminal (as you point out in a fact so many people had not actually heard from the “liberal media”) and, at the least, demeaning of women and minorities. Yet they will now be considered heroes for beating “the system” – when in fact for their entire lives they have been beneficiaries of a class and race system that thrives today in the US.

Posted by: Cabral | April 13, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

If your parents are wealthy, you should be punished. If you legally hire an exotic dancer who shows up bleepfaced, you should be punished.
You should be judged by the color of your skin. So be thankful that you didn’t spend the rest of your life in prison. A lot of people would love to have their faces on posters all over town- even if they called for your arrest, and well, worse….

Posted by: Sean | April 13, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

terry moran is one sick puppy.
with that kind of outlook on life, oh….what was i thinking?….he works for abc doesnt he?

Posted by: earl dixon | April 13, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

WOW! Nothing to say about the O.J. trial. Just another John Brown reporter.

Posted by: C.P | April 13, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

If your parents are wealthy, you should be punished. If you legally hire an exotic dancer who shows up bleepfaced, you should be punished.
You should be judged by the color of your skin. So be thankful that you didn’t spend the rest of your life in prison. A lot of people would love to have their faces on posters all over town- even if they called for your arrest, and well, worse….

Posted by: Sean | April 13, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

I find it most disturbing to assume that simply because these charges were dropped that the men are innocent. No one knows what happened on the night in question, save the accusers and the accused. Assuming these boys are innocent just because the courts failed is just as ignorant as assuming OJ is innocent.

Posted by: Noir | April 13, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Injustice is injustice period regardless of the background receiving the injustice.
Your rationale is the same as saying “Rape is bad – no doubt about it, but don’t feel too bad for that woman for being raped her conduct was not admirable on the night of the incident, to say the least. And there are so many other victims that never were asking for it like her and it strikes me as just a bit unseemly to heap sympathy on this particular women.
Tell me how this is not same rationale…….

Posted by: BA TRUTH | April 13, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Why all this dumping on strippers?
I know some strippers. They are fine people. Like one stripper says: Strippers are just like everybody else, just better looking.
Now, like lawyers, some strippers are low life types, but most are good people.
Stripping is a legal and a closely regulated profession.

Posted by: fred | April 13, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

I concur with Terry’s comments. These men were of wealth privlege. Up until now I felt sorry for Elizabeth Edwards and the cancer she has. But then, I remember she is married to a weathy man who can afford the best medical care for her cancer. What about all the poor women who have cancer but are without means. Neither the Duke players or Mrs. Edwards did anything to be end up where they are at. If one doesn’t deserve sympathy, none of them do.

Posted by: Dan Dulnikowski | April 13, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

On the off chance I ever watch anything in the future that has Terry Moran as one of the reporters I will now assume that its validity is controlled by a theme for lynching instead of truth. ABCNews needs to fire this reporter and stop hiring drama queens.

Posted by: Todd South | April 13, 2007, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Dear Mr. Moran,
It was so tempting to type an O instread of an A in your last name. You are correct. There is a double standard. If you made the coments you made about these young men were made about young men of color you would be in the same unemployment line as Mr. Imus. The school, Jesse Jackson, and other known liars wanted to lynch these young men. It was so easy to attack them. You did it again. This tyoe of article is sickening. Their lives were in jeopardy. I sincerely hope nothing like this happens to you and your family.

Posted by: James Salerno | April 13, 2007, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

He get’s paid for being a jerk. How do get a job like that unless you’re connected. Class hatred is what it’s all about.

Posted by: tsnyunt | April 13, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Why is a wrong always compared to another wrong.

Posted by: William | April 13, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

It really doesn’t make any difference how much money these three men come from. The fact that they had to defend themselves against false charges by a prosecutor with dubious motives is wrong regardless of the tax bracket of the three accused. They deserve the same sympathy as anyone wrongly accused. No more and no less.

Posted by: Paul | April 13, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Why is a wrong always compared to another wrong.

Posted by: William | April 13, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

I find it very ironic that you are criticizing the moral judgement of their decision to hire a stripper.

Posted by: Sam | April 13, 2007, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Well, first off, I’ve seen a picture of Ms. Mangum. If she gets $400/hr, she is grossly overpaid. And, as she had the DNA of 5 different men on/in her person, that, to me, indicates she is a hooker. It doesn’t bother me one bit if they yelled epithets to her. Hell, I’m sorely tempted to do the same. But I’ll promise you this: That won’t be the LAST time someone yells epithets at her.

Posted by: Robin | April 13, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Hiring a stripper is legal. It is not wrong or immoral. In fact, these young men should be praised for supporting the independent business woman. The request from the lacrosse team that at least one stripper be white simply demonstrates their tolerance and support of diversity. Isn’t that what’s it’s all about?
Nor is it a crime to be a stripper. It’s a perfectly respectable occupation. Do women do it for the money. Yes. Just like every other job. A woman has the right to make her own decisions. She has the right to do what she wants with her own body. Her body, her choice. No?
Terry Moran should keep his right-wing religious views to himself. His claim that the Duke three got what they deserved because they didn’t follow his stringent morality is repugnant, as is his desire to keep women from perfectly legal occupations.

Posted by: Shawn | April 13, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Hiring a stripper is legal. It is not wrong or immoral. In fact, these young men should be praised for supporting the independent business woman. The request from the lacrosse team that at least one stripper be white simply demonstrates their tolerance and support of diversity. Isn’t that what’s it’s all about?
Nor is it a crime to be a stripper. It’s a perfectly respectable occupation. Do women do it for the money. Yes. Just like every other job. A woman has the right to make her own decisions. She has the right to do what she wants with her own body. Her body, her choice. No?
Terry Moran should keep his right-wing religious views to himself. His claim that the Duke three got what they deserved because they didn’t follow his stringent morality is repugnant, as is his desire to keep women from perfectly legal occupations.

Posted by: Shawn | April 13, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

What goes around, comes around, Terry.
One day you will wish you had never become a liberal drone.

Posted by: One_American | April 13, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Moran just can’t stomach being wrong, can he? What a dismal day he must have had when the boys’ innocence became undeniable. All that happens must fit his template or his fragile world is in disorder. How sad.

Posted by: David Baker | April 13, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

WOW. When right and wrong is merely an associative comparison instead of a definition, you have no moral compass at all. Prosecutorial misconduct is wrong – whether the person is purple or orange, rich or poor, and should have NO ONE’s sympathy or justification. The answer is not to punish the misconduct that was found, but strive to find answers to see it doesn’t happen to those less able to fight it. Talk about misguided bitterness.

Posted by: michael | April 13, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Pretty dumb Terry. You like the No. of responses don’t you, probably will get a raise at the Office.
Think, did I place a comma in the first statement.

Posted by: PDM | April 13, 2007, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Holy cats! This is the most ridiculous piece of reporting I’ve seen. I’m guessing you were part of the crowd that smelled blood at the beginning of this charade and are trying to cover your tracks. No sale, here. Maybe some of your equally insensitive cohorts will side with you, but you need to look again at this story. The guys admitted they had the resources to fight the case. They also rightly pointed out that we have a flawed justice system that abuses its power. We also have a media that takes up any case that has a bias it can support. This guy running for re-election knew just how to play you. Game’s over! You just don’t know it!

Posted by: Dan Russell | April 13, 2007, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Moran just can’t stomach being wrong, can he? What a dismal day he must have had when the boys’ innocence became undeniable. All that happens must fit his template or his fragile world is in disorder. How sad.

Posted by: David Baker | April 13, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

A welcome dose of context for an episode which certainly celebrated the degradation of women, reduced to sexual objects – who were further baited with racist and sexist epithets. Just a night of fun at Duke, I guess. Had these students not demonstrated their willingness to participate in a ritual mockery of these women, perhaps the charges would not have seemed as believable.
Important post, Terry.

Posted by: Marie | April 13, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

These gentlemen were wrongly accused of a very serious crime and were completely vindicated due to the lies of the accuser. As to racial slurs being directed at the strippers, how do we know for a fact that this happened unless you, Terry, were there. These were additional comments made by the accuser whose credibility is not that great anyway. Their lives have been put on hold for a year and their reputations almost completely destroyed. Give them a break and back off.

Posted by: Dale O'Keefe | April 13, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

You seem to have ommitted the REAL reason for your “cautionary” note above….
THe Lacrosse players and the other teamates were WHITE!!!

Posted by: Len Jones | April 13, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

This is a poorly written article and poorly thought out point of view. It sounds like a child whose best retort is “that’s not fair”. Moreover there is an obvious tone of elite bashing. The fact that they are from well to do families is irrelevant. If anything we should applaud the fact that these elite families had the courage to have their good names tarnished due to their public fight with a unethical prosecutor. The easy thing to do would have been to settle this case so it would not remain in the public. But, this family had the courage to face down the on-slaught of negative public opinion at the expense of holding onto the knowledge that the truth would indeed set them free.

Posted by: steve | April 13, 2007, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

This is a poorly written article and poorly thought out point of view. It sounds like a child whose best retort is “that’s not fair”. Moreover there is an obvious tone of elite bashing. The fact that they are from well to do families is irrelevant. If anything we should applaud the fact that these elite families had the courage to have their good names tarnished due to their public fight with a unethical prosecutor. The easy thing to do would have been to settle this case so it would not remain in the public. But, this family had the courage to face down the on-slaught of negative public opinion at the expense of holding onto the knowledge that the truth would indeed set them free.

Posted by: steve | April 13, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Looks like everyone disagrees with Terry Moran, including me. A degree in journalism is not worth much nowdays. I boycotted ABC since 1996. I was led to this site by another site. Nuff Said!

Posted by: Candy | April 13, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Shocking absurdity. It is one thing to be found not guilty, it is another thing for the States attorney general to declare you innocent and reprimand the prosecutor. Yes we shouldnt feel sorry for the dukies, after all they come from families with money, Therefore they deserve to be found guilty until proven innocent and have the media smear their names for over a year. Note to the writer of this stupid article. Why cant you just admit that you were WRONG. The media whould take responsibility in its retractions. Everyone that wrote vicious articles about these guys should apologize to them personally. I give Imus more credit. At least he apologized for his mistakes.

Posted by: RW | April 13, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

A very imus-esque point of view. Why does ABC pay people to write this nonsense?

Posted by: lamon | April 13, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

What a disgraceful article and another example of liberal, left wing bias in the media. This is nothing but trash.
But then again, in the eyes of people like Moran, it’s ok to write this kind of trash about innocent white males.
Of course, if the tables were turned and it was three wealthy black males who were wrongfully accused by a white stripper, and Moran wrote this same article, he’d get fired. But guys like Moran are too arrogant to recognize the double standards that exist in today’s media.

Posted by: Truth | April 13, 2007, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

This is absurd. Yes our justice system is far from perfect but the abuse of prosecutorial discretion we saw in this case is way off the charts. There is no evidence that this happens routinely or that african-americans are the victims of it. Sure there are people who get wrongly convicted but it is almost never because a prosecutor with a vendeta violates the law to prosecute them.
Terrys viewpoint seems to be that because the Duke players are reasonably well-off it does not matter that they were defamed and their lives ruined for over a year.
Huh? That makes no sense

Posted by: Paul | April 13, 2007, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Any time a prosecutor abuses his power, it is an outrage. Forget the race or economic situation of the persecuted parties. Mike Nifong should be severely punished, and Terry Moran should have his head examined.

Posted by: Little Giant | April 13, 2007, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Moran is a moron. His ‘politically corect’ analysis of this sad episode is indicitive of the sorry state of logical thought in todays America. How did we come to this state: a major news operation has a juvenile thinking man like Moran on it’s payroll.

Posted by: Robert Gaines | April 13, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

I must have missed something. Was the income of these families posted somewhere? I live 20 minutes from Duke, and have known several Duke students. None of the kids I knew came from rich families; they were just smart and had scolarships, or a lot of debt in student loans. Maybe those people assuming that anyone who goes to a private college is rich are showing their ignorance of the college system – is that because they weren’t intellectually qualified to apply for scholarships themselves?

Posted by: becky | April 13, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine and Terry, You sir are a Moron!

Posted by: Scott | April 13, 2007, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

I must have missed something. Was the income of these families posted somewhere? I live 20 minutes from Duke, and have known several Duke students. None of the kids I knew came from rich families; they were just smart and had scolarships, or a lot of debt in student loans. Maybe those people assuming that anyone who goes to a private college is rich are showing their ignorance of the college system – is that because they weren’t intellectually qualified to apply for scholarships themselves?

Posted by: becky | April 13, 2007, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Any male who did not order strippers while in college did not experience college. You people all live in a vacuum. Get real!! Nifong deserves jail time and of course you should feel sorry for those guys or any person black or green that has been treated this way. The fact we live in a capitalistic society means people with more money have a better chance of being rescued from a flawed justice system. If you don’t like it, move to Russia and see what happens to you.

Posted by: Brent Stulik | April 13, 2007, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

I can’t believe what I just read. Anyone who doesn’t believe there is a problem with political correctness in the media needs to read this ridiculous article.
These young men’s lives have been destroyed by lies. The fact that the team ordered strippers isn’t the point, and you know it Terry. And why should it matter if they are white?
The fact that the players were white and wealthy made the media salivate; hungry to take advantage of a situation that political correctness encourages to make a circus of, and therefore acted quickly to condemn these boys before knowing all the facts. The episdode also attracted all kinds of disingenueous opportunists. Jesse Jackson even offered the prostitue (that’s what she is) a college scholoraship. Why doesn’t Jesse Jackson now apologize? Why don’t the politically correct Duke faculty who circulated hateful propaganda against these boys apologize? Why don’t these same faculty go on the record to that they were wrong to condemn a group of people with no evidence other than it supports their stereotype of oppresive evil white people exploiting poor blacks?
If these players had not been white, the federal governemnt would have intervened a long time ago to put an end to an obvious hoax based on civil rights. Sorry Terry you are way off on this one – it looks like your political correctness and lefty biases have blinded you.

Posted by: Joe A. | April 13, 2007, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Yes, yes, Terry, the liberal white mans guilt. Are you not part of the “media”that you seem to dislike? You lib “journalists” are all the same. Terry maybe you can kick in a little for the scholorship that that other racist, Jessie Jackson, has set up for the stripper. Maybe that will relieve you of some of your guilt.

Posted by: ltrman | April 13, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Martin Luther King

Posted by: Sean | April 13, 2007, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Had these kids not had wealthy parents they may well have already plead out and been serving a stiff sentence in prison for their non-crimes.
That would almost certainly be the case had they been poor black guys from the ghetto.
Doesn’t really matter though — that’s the way it’s always been and that’s the way it will always be. Black are used to it – they’ve never known it any other way.
As for Terry Moran, he doesn’t really care about poor black people — he much prefers the Duke guys. He’s just a sanctimonious opportunist looking for some attention, that’s all.
The irony is all you angry commenters kvetching about Moran, just realize that the vast majority of you are much closer in social status to the poor blacks than you are to the Duke kids.
Neither the Duke kids nor Moran would be caught dead are most of your houses.

Posted by: Yehuda Cohn | April 13, 2007, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

are you serious???? it is a wonder that anyone listens to the liberal media. falsly accused of rape… the media goes ga ga tried, guilty, hung. FALSELY ACCUSED OF RAPE!!! where do these young men go to get their reputation back? the liberal media? no! they are too concerned about stupid remarks from their friend (IMUS) about strange hair! no wonder most people don’t pay attention to the old media. you guys just don’t get it!!!!

Posted by: hank | April 13, 2007, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

By your logic, Lance Armstrong should not haled as a cancer surviver, because he had access to the best doctors.

Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Remember folks, his boss at ABC approved this outrageous commentary and ABC printed it. It’s time for more pink slips.

Posted by: More outraged! | April 13, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Had these kids not had wealthy parents they may well have already plead out and been serving a stiff sentence in prison for their non-crimes.
That would almost certainly be the case had they been poor black guys from the ghetto.
Doesn’t really matter though — that’s the way it’s always been and that’s the way it will always be. Black are used to it – they’ve never known it any other way.
As for Terry Moran, he doesn’t really care about poor black people — he much prefers the Duke guys. He’s just a sanctimonious opportunist looking for some attention, that’s all.
The irony is all you angry commenters kvetching about Moran, just realize that the vast majority of you are much closer in social status to the poor blacks than you are to the Duke kids.
Neither the Duke kids nor Moran would be caught dead are most of your houses.

Posted by: Yehuda Cohn | April 13, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

You are unbelievable Terry. You think its ok that a couple guys were falsely accused of rape because they had money and the resources to fight the charges? Luckily for them they had the resources, or maybe they would be serving a life term right now?

Posted by: R J | April 13, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

I won’t point out the obvious race bating maniputlators on both sides of this mess. We all know these clowns like Sharpton and the “new” black panthers, as well as the media are the ones who benefit most from all of this. People who should be given no credibility. Yet why time and again are they? I would think that after the O.J. Simpson travesty as well as the split reaction from Americans we would realize the division in America will never be healed. Despite all the apologies, and restitutions and white guilt. We will continue to pay for the past with which I would say the majority of us had nothing to do with. These self appointed black leaders only care about those they say they represent when there is publicity and money. The hate mongering media cares because there is a sleazy story someone may make a name, reputation, fame or money on. Screw facts. And these usefull idiots contribute to the division of all our people, all our races, cultures, religions and our country. Well I was raised to see poeple for who they are good and bad. I have no white guilt. I refuse to be made to feel guilty over past action I had nothing to do with, hell my family wasn’t even in this country until 1902. Do any of you really think convicting someone you know is innocent makes up for wrongs done in the past. Or letting somone who is guilty go free makes up for the past? Are people really so hate filled? Is this really our society?
People need to quit being made to feel guily over a past they had nothing to do with. Other people need to quit playing victims when they are not. They just choose to play at being a victim. Just remember whatever is given to some it will never be enough. It’s extortion on both sides, those who benefit from it see only weakness and will continue to intimidate and want more payment in the form of finacial gains, in scewed legal actions, and in racial inequality. These things benefit only a few but cost us all.

Posted by: Dan | April 13, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Exactly the type of story that I would expect from a liberal elite.
So its alright to rip these young men to shreads in the public sector for over a year because they have what, money?
Dear God if only we knew whether or not they were Christians … well then it would be acceptable to stone them.
Oh, wait, Terry and the rest of the media elite already did.

Posted by: Terri Heitz | April 13, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Wow, I thought what Imus said was out of line. Not only are you out of line, you have left the state. I’ll be signing that petition to have you fired.

Posted by: john | April 13, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Terry, you say “And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”
Well, you ARE the media, you moron.

Posted by: Will Robertson | April 13, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Feeling sorry isn’t the issue here – so don’t divert it. This is a classic liberal fall back tactic, let’s ignore the travesty of Nifong’s conduct and focus on who these kids are. Classic ad hominen fallacy. The issue is a press and justice system governed, not by a desire to get at the truth, but to appeal to the masses on the basis of political correctness.

Posted by: Ralph | April 13, 2007, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Don’t feel sorry for the three boys because they come from families where their parents worked hard to provide for them and were able to afford good lawyers? You’re kids would be in the same boat. I hope they are never accused of the same crime.

Posted by: Ward | April 13, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

The media constantly try and convict people in the press with their non-factual, agenda-grinding reporting. It’s bitterly amusing to see a moron like Moran continue to persecute the Duke students after they have explicitly been declared innocent by the attorney general. “Advocacy reporting” became the media’s modus operandi many years ago. Politically correct sermonizing is all Moran and his coworkers are capable of.

Posted by: Nick | April 13, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

This has to be one of the trashiest ‘racest’ articles I have ever seen by a ‘reporter’.
First off when are ‘rich, white’ people now denied due process?
And why are they better positioned than the Rutgers team? Do you know the Rutegers team? Are they all from the ghetto or are you Mr. Reporter just assuming that because they are black.
Amazing that you wrote this Terry, re-read, and said this is good enough to publish.

Posted by: Derek | April 13, 2007, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

You are a disgrace… but what’s new. You never report facts, you direspect my President. But you are part of the liberal news media. you get your talking points and report your opinion not the facts.I feel sorry for you, your ego gets in the way. Why do you hate this country soo much. What goes around comes around!!

Posted by: Jill | April 13, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

As a former federal prosecutor, and someone actually frustrated by Nifong’s handling of this matter, I am truly disgusted an ABC reporter takes this view of the case the justice system overall.
Luckily, I don’t think most of us reading Moran’s overt ignorance paint all of those working in ABC’s News department with the same broad brush of stupidity.

Posted by: Former Prosecutor | April 13, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Thank God for the justice system — a place the innocent can have their opportunity to fight the charges and vindicate themselves, right?
I hope those commenters outraged by the injustice worked upon the Duke kids are equally upset about some poor slob in Gitmo who’s been:
- In prison for 4 years and tortured.
- Never been charged with anything.
- With no access to the court.
- No access to a lawyer.
- No right to confront his accusers or contradict evidence.
For someone who’s innocent, that’s gotta suck, right?

Posted by: Yehuda Cohn | April 13, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

That’s quite a stretch,your comparison of the Duke lax players and the Rutgers women’s team.Lets see a year of hell versus being called a name.I also love this gem from one of the post here Terry:
I totally agree with you – its not the first time that well-to-do preppies have gotten off because of their background.Uh, I think they “got off”because there was no evidence

Posted by: Rich | April 13, 2007, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Terry,
Maybe I should falsely accuse you of rape and then rationalize it by the fact that your future will be okay because you are an overpaid tela-prompt reader with connections to CEO’s, politicians and other social elite. With your premise that money equals acquittal then how do explain the convictions of Martha Stewart, Kenneth Lay, and other wealthy CEO’s. Do America a favor and find a REAL job- one that requires a contribution to the gross national product and take a basic logic course.
I feel sorry for Ted Koppel as he has to watch how you have destroyed a once great show–Nightline.
Zach

Posted by: Zach | April 13, 2007, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Since when are “rich, privaledged white men” become something to abhor. I guess then that Abe Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Neil Armstrong, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Watson & Crick, Bill Gates, Marconi, Louis Pasteur, Issac Newton, (I could go on and on ’till next Friday) and the rest are bad too? You’re all a bunch of hypocrites and ignorant as hell. If it weren’t for so-called “rich white men”, we’d all still be hunting and gathering and living in some cave in 2007.
I guess that Kobe Bryant is also abhorant for being a “Rich Black Man” too? Think about it.

Posted by: Patrick | April 13, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

That’s quite a stretch,your comparison of the Duke lax players and the Rutgers women’s team.Lets see a year of hell versus being called a name.I also love this gem from one of the post here Terry:
I totally agree with you – its not the first time that well-to-do preppies have gotten off because of their background.Uh, I think they “got off”because there was no evidence

Posted by: Rich | April 13, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Terry, your words are more spiteful and hate filled than anything Imus said, ah yeah I forgot you were talking about white people you can say whatever you want then!!! I encourage everyone to call ABC to have you fired, I will!!!! COWARD!!!!

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

Media Nifongery Continues

Boiled down to the essentials, Mr. Moran is grumbling over the collapse of the too-good-to-fact-check story, and is reduced to pointing out that the team held a party with strippers. And may have used bad language.

Posted by: The Boring Made Dull | April 13, 2007, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Don’t let the facts get in your way now. They’re lucky they had enough money to get past the railroad job by the media and prosecutor. I know their innocence doesn’t fit your pc liberal view, but to hell with reality when it gets in the way of what you want to say.

Posted by: J | April 13, 2007, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Is anyone really surprised by Moran’s commentary? Terry Moran (Moron) is angry with the world. He berates anyone and everyone. His opinion is the only one that counts. He is hateful and mean spirited. Don’t feel too sorry for the Moron, what goes around comes around.

Posted by: gail | April 13, 2007, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

The worst article I have ever read, of course it’s on the fanatical right wing joke which is the drudge report

Posted by: brett | April 13, 2007, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Let’s see – prosecutorial misconduct isn’t quite as bad when the victims are white college kids – thank you ABCNews for weighing in on the matter.

Posted by: Hal | April 13, 2007, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

amazing viewpoint but totally predictable. The type of closed-minded liberal viewpoint that resulted in such prosecutorial misconduct in the first place. This took place solely to appease one of the many liberal victim groups the libs like to string along while the libs keep them in their place so the libs can keep the voting block. And people like Terry Moron just serve as the media wing of the DNC.

Posted by: steven | April 13, 2007, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

How can ABC employ on air someone whose reasoning and arguments are so flawed? I predict this column will become a classic in bias and illogic.

Posted by: B.M. | April 13, 2007, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Is it Terry Moran or Terry Moron: Correct me if I’m wrong. But, what you are saying is, that the Duke players deserve to be guilty regarless of the circumstances, and everyone, that’s presently in prison should be freed, just because these young men were of the privileged class.

Posted by: Reginald | April 13, 2007, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Yeah, they got off because they were white and privileged. Just like O.J.
Except when O.J. walked it was “justice”.
You get paid for this crap??

Posted by: Vengeance | April 13, 2007, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

I appreciate Terry Moran. Most MSM journalists make a spirited effort to hide their biased liberal views and anti-white self-loathing but Terry just lets it all hang out there!

Posted by: Edwin | April 13, 2007, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

“And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.” So what? Does that mean we shouldn’t feel bad about the cases we do hear about? The fact this case was so widely covered in the media means these young men had their reputations ruined world-wide. People whose cases aren’t covered by the media suffer far less public damage. Why shouldn’t we feel bad for the Dukies? Reputations trashed, millions of dollars in debt, over a year wasted not going to school, incredible stress. According to our cold-hearted journalist, I guess that’s suitable punishment for poor judgement? My guess is that Moran doesn’t believe the 3 young men were really wrongly accused, and that’s the source of his lack of compassion.

Posted by: Brosan | April 13, 2007, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

The young woman(Crystal Gail Mangum)falsely accused the Duke Players is a liar. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The District Attorney will be disbarred, the “liar” will stay in the gutter she crawled out of. End of story!

Posted by: Ronald McDonald | April 13, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

You are right about the need to focus on ALL prosecutorial misconduct.
You are wrong when suggesting the advantages these men may have in life somehow lessen the wrong done to them.

Posted by: Spring | April 13, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

You need to go back to Court TV. You might learn something

Posted by: Hal | April 13, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Unfortunately, this is the kind of trash journalism being spewed out all too often these days from writers whose thought processes have been coopted by political correctness and downright brain washing. One wonders if this piece was written after a night best forgotten. Whatever the reason, ABC has shown its true colors in turning this lunatic loose with a computer and a web page to make a fool of himself. ABC should better control their loose screws.

Posted by: WRJ | April 13, 2007, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

As a woman, I find this editorial terrifying. It is the same logic that defense attorneys use to assasinate the character of rape victims’ and/or make them less sympathetic.
So, basically, the Duke players “asked” for it? They “deserved” it because of their past indiscretions? They don’t need apologies or sympathetic outrage because their lives are so good, that this little national media incident (not to mention jail threat) will have no impact on their young lives?

Posted by: Jo | April 13, 2007, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

I found that your comments regarding the innocent young Duke college kids quite insensitive.
The media needs to apologize for how they covered this and the news I saw had these boys and the school tried and convicted before the facts came in. You guys at ABC and your friends at CBS and NBC as well as the NY Times and papers across the nation sensationalized this whole story. Now when it is investigated… and found to be totally the opposite as to what was being reported… we shouldn’t feel sorry for the “Dukies”… what the heck is a Dukie anyway… first thing that comes to mind is a bowel movement and so I found that expression offensive.
In light of the IMUS dismissal from his job and all this political correctness and unwillingness to apologize and feel remorse by the pro LIBERAL AGENDA folks (which you have shown yourself to side with)… it all just disgusts me.
Does the word HYPOCRITICAL seem to define the whole media experience we seem to be in … I think it does.
Rev. Jackson needs to apologize to these young men.
Rev. Sharpton needs to apologize to these young men.
The prosecutor should go to jail.
You should be reassigned to clean up the DUKIE in the ABCNEWS room… you aren’t qualified to give an objective opinion as you have shown yourself tainted.

Posted by: Miles | April 13, 2007, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

I guess the author of this article behaved like a Puritan while attending University.
Holier Than Thou indeed.

Posted by: Uncle Sal | April 13, 2007, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

This is a great example of why news-media personalities should not have blogs. They’re liable to share a belief that exposes them for the idiots and/or radicals/reactionaries they are. But at least now we know just how far to the left Terry Moran.

Posted by: Sean Smith | April 13, 2007, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Spoiled white fratboys of privilege–who cares what happens to them?

Posted by: Ed | April 13, 2007, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Terry,
Don’t feel sorry for the Dukies? Really? So we as a public, should not feel sorry for guys that had the media, people like you, rush to judgement, and was holding a trial by media before they had their day in court?
They had to put up with the harrassement of these out of control, radical chics that held protest on the Duke campus calling them rapist with no shred of evidence.
Not to mention the leader of the New Black Panther party going to the Duke campus and saying that “we will not settle for anything less than a guilty verdict”.
The lynch mob will never apologize for the slanderish statements they made towards these guys.
Terry, if you had a friend, family member or a co-worker that went through what these guys went through, you would never have this attitude.
Finally, why didn’t you mention how the stripper filed a false police report, and lied to police while they were conducting an investigation?

Posted by: Kevin | April 13, 2007, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Moran apparently took the Duke players comments about the media’s irresponsible reporting in this rape accusation travesty quite personally. And after reading Moran’s comments, I find that the Duke players are 100% correct about their assertion of the media.

Posted by: Baby Beast | April 13, 2007, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

“We shouldnt feel sorry for the Dukies because they hired strippers and so are bad people.”
“We shouldnt feel sorry for the Dukies because minorities have it worse, dont have money, and never get help against bad prosecutors and cops.”
Huh?! Im a minority and think your column is ridiculous. Lets look at your college history and see if we should also judge you based on your actions then. Did you ever get drunk, ever been at a bachelor party with strippers, ever smoke and inhale?? Yeah, thought so.
Also, lets assume all minorities who get wrongly accused as being of high moral and personal integrity, unlike the Dukies, which means the minorities should get our sympathy and not the Dukies. Your arguments are flawed. The justice system fails us all and hurts everyone accused of such heinous crimes the same way.
And THAT is what this story is about: a heinous crime innocent people were accused of by an evil prosecutor and convicted of by the media. This is about a flawed system where it takes tons of money to overcome the power and destructive force of a malicious prosecutor. Thank God justice prevailed BECAUSE they had the money to expose Nifong. That makes us all just a tad bit safer, including us minorities who get all YOUR sympathy.
You, sir, should be fired. You are part of the problem. You are an idiot posing as a journalist, a job almost equally important in stature as a prosecutor in today’s media age … and we have far too few legitimate journalists around. At the very least, please find a new profession!

Posted by: JJ | April 13, 2007, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

“We shouldnt feel sorry for the Dukies because they hired strippers and so are bad people.”
“We shouldnt feel sorry for the Dukies because minorities have it worse, dont have money, and never get help against bad prosecutors and cops.”
Huh?! Im a minority and think your column is ridiculous. Lets look at your college history and see if we should also judge you based on your actions then. Did you ever get drunk, ever been at a bachelor party with strippers, ever smoke and inhale?? Yeah, thought so.
Also, lets assume all minorities who get wrongly accused as being of high moral and personal integrity, unlike the Dukies, which means the minorities should get our sympathy and not the Dukies. Your arguments are flawed. The justice system fails us all and hurts everyone accused of such heinous crimes the same way.
And THAT is what this story is about: a heinous crime innocent people were accused of by an evil prosecutor and convicted of by the media. This is about a flawed system where it takes tons of money to overcome the power and destructive force of a malicious prosecutor. Thank God justice prevailed BECAUSE they had the money to expose Nifong. That makes us all just a tad bit safer, including us minorities who get all YOUR sympathy.
You, sir, should be fired. You are part of the problem. You are an idiot posing as a journalist, a job almost equally important in stature as a prosecutor in today’s media age … and we have far too few legitimate journalists around. At the very least, please find a new profession!

Posted by: JJ | April 13, 2007, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Terry, this is pretty much what your worst critics would have expected from you; I don’t know whether to be happy that I’m right about liberal in the press, or sad that you are as pathetic and talentless as I thought.
In the same piece you accused white, liberal journalists of both racism and the inability to perform your jobs (I agree), and top it off with a grand demonstration of white liberal self-loathing in your dismissal of the wrongly accused students, with whom you share more in common than anyone else in the story.
Nice job. You’re a silly liberal.

Posted by: Jerry | April 13, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

It always was annoying for me to hear these Duke guys called “Boys” — as if they were choir boys. But, the thing that bothered me most was that no one ever questioned why they hired strippers at all — a job that is demeaning to women. (Would they want their sisters or mothers to be strippers?) Having said all this, if no rape took place, of course, they should not have been charged.

Posted by: RIOS | April 13, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

To: Mr. Moran
I first heard about this so-called piece of yours on MSNBC’s Tucker Show (Friday) tonight. After what has just happen with Don Imus this week, I thought all broadcasters would start to come out with some thought-provoking talk about the hazards of stereotyping and irresponsible comments. It seems you either didn’t get memo yet or really don’t follow the news. It is really too bad you don’t work for CBS or MSNBC. In view of their (CBS/NBC) newly found and “evolving” integrity, I am sure they would show you door. At least Imus apologized for his error in judgement, I would hope you would do the same to those students you just attacked.

Posted by: CC | April 13, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Terry,
We know where the loyalties of you and most other journalists in the mainstream media lie. I’m sick of the double standard that you and other left wingers propagate when it comes to race. Somehow you guys think it’s worse for a minority to be injured that a white male. I think if we are honest, as you say above, we would admit that there is more racism directed at whites than at any other race. Why? Because there is RARELY any backlash. On the other hand, just call a minority a name and you will carry a scarlet letter for the rest of your life. What about all of the black rap stars that constantly call white folks names? I guess that just doesn’t count.

Posted by: Jason | April 13, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Mr. Moran do you live in the real world? Surely you lived the life of a choir boy and have done nothing even remotely unseemly. I think you spend too much time in your little journalist bubble to realize that even rich people have feelings and can be wronged. Money is not the issue as this case has proven. Their relative wealth didn’t keep them from being harrassed by a rogue prosecuter for more than a year. They will forever be known as the guys who were accused of raping a poor black girl.
You should just hope that something like this doesn’t happen to a guy like you – you know, the white media elite….

Posted by: Dennis | April 13, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Pauline Keal, the film critic for the New Yorker during the 1960s and 70s, famously said “I don’t know how Richard Nixon got elected because I don’t know anyone who voted for him.”
Repeat that line to yourself before you go to bed every night. These three boys were accused of RAPE. A very serious crime. Life over if convicted. I think I feel sorry for them, particularly when the facts of the were SO CLEAR to see from the beginning. Sorry, Charlie, your argument doesn’t stand up this time……

Posted by: JHS | April 13, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Mr. Moron..er I mean Moran, was clearly educated in one of the gov’t popoganda centers (schools). This would include any college. How do we know this? Because the white man never in the course of human history has acted as irationallly as the whites today, devoid of any rational thinking, their minds have been willingly turned to mush. They have now entered the realm of sub human. What person, besides other sub human garbage, would listen to anything these people have to say.
back, back, back to your ivory tower Mr. moron, er Moran and leave the real world to humans.

Posted by: leviathan terminator | April 13, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

This column is the most disgusting bit of self-righteous liberal drivel I have read in a long time. It reminded me of why I don’t watch ABC anymore.

Posted by: jw | April 13, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Your perspective seems just a bit warped my fast-writing friend. You should feel sorry for them for all the reasons you mentioned..BUT then you should be advocating that others…rich / poor / black / white or green…who have been thru similar legal misconduct be included in the press focus. The fact that others didn’t get attention and these guys did should be used to advocate a closer look at the abuse of power by the legal community. Still, I say ‘Shame on YOU” for trying to continue to paint these boys as the cause of these misfortunes. You are one of the reasons that abuse is tolerated because you can spin any story to focus negative attention on even those PROVEN to be innocent.

Posted by: Ron Runnion | April 13, 2007, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

This is a little taste of what Americans of African descent have been experiencing for years? What? Wrong is wrong no matter what color. Wake up people. Must be killing some that the well off white kids weren’t rail roaded as planned. Mercy me.

Posted by: Ed | April 13, 2007, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Your article makes little sense. Do not feel sorry for the “Dukies” because of their station in life? What does their social or economic place in society have to do with how we should respond to the unjust hell they have been through?
Many journalists–and this one in particular–could use a good dose of common sense.

Posted by: DCox | April 13, 2007, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

I find it fascinating that everyone wants to confuse immoral behavior with illegal acts. Is it immoral to hire a stripper? In my opinion, yes it is.. However does that make it illegal? Hardly.. You have to seperate poor / boorish behavior from criminal acts. Everyone wants to cast the criminal act against a backdrop of the behavior of the victims. Sorry folks, Morality is in the eye of the beholder, but crimes are against the law. Stop feeling sorry for the DA and the young lady(?) and realize that the withholding of exculpatory evidence could have put those young men in jail. There should be no evaluating any crime ‘in context’ of anything other than the laws of the United States of America legal precedent. And the DA of ALL people should be aware of that – after all, didn’t he take an oath to UPHOLD the law?

Posted by: Snapshot | April 13, 2007, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Hey moron, if you are going to cast judgment on the Duke lacrosse players for paying $800 to hire two strippers, why don’t you also impugn the actions of the strippers themselves? The Duke boys paid strippers to do this once. The strippers were probably doing several shows a night. Also, the rape accuser had semen from several different men on her, so it is highly likely that other men paid her for sex before she even arrive at the lacrosse house. That stripper who accused the boys is a dirty, lying skank and deserves shame and criticism for what she did, not the lacrosse boys.

Posted by: Kurt S | April 13, 2007, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Ummm, they were college students. What do you expect??? Stupid!

Posted by: Joe Blow | April 13, 2007, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Ok, so it’s not as bad to wrongly accuse someone if they are rich or were born into a privileged family by no cause of their own? Justice should be blind. Apparently this reporter suffers from taking his blindfold off himself… I wonder if this reporter would have a high priced lawyer if he was wrongly accused of something. Oh no, of course not – he would save his money and find some unprivileged accused to donate it to so that accused could have a better attorney. What a hypocritical, typical, elitist media view. He’s just another Nifong himself.

Posted by: Bryce | April 13, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

A pathetic posting that reeks of jealousy and hypocrisy. Nobody’s blaming you, Terry, for covering the story when the stripper accused them!
Give me a freaking break. Yeah, Terry, it would have been much better for all involved had they been state school students who needed a public defender who would have forced a plea deal down their throats.
I’m glad news organizations allow reporters to blog… we can really get to see how stupid and biased they are.

Posted by: Adam | April 13, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

This article is a load of crap.

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Since when did paying for a stripper become a crime? Last I checked it was legal. On person, Finnerty, was convicted of a misdemeanor assult charge. So OK for you to assume the others are just as guilty, eh?
Of course we must remember as Jesse Jackson said just this time last year, “The history of white men and black women, and the special fantasies and exploitation, is old and ancient”. “The historical pattern of this behavior arouses so many fears and conjures up so many bad memories.” Where was the media on this terrible racial slander? NO WHERE?

Posted by: Alex | April 13, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Terry, Well written. Except these guys were found innocent (not guilty, no evidence, etc.). Typical of mainstream media.

Posted by: VG | April 13, 2007, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Boy, does it make you feel that good about yourself to appear to be a champion for minorities and the downtroden? Typical of most liberals, you mouth the words,but don’t do anything in your daily life to truly help these people. People posting here really have your number as a hypocrite. Why aren’t you taking the place of one of these “wrongly” accused minorities? Our legal system is broken for everyone, but allowing any innocent people to suffer because the system is broken is ludicrous!

Posted by: wayne | April 13, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

When are the Duke faculty members,NY Times journalists, media and many local citizens of Durham going to apologise?

Posted by: JHarris | April 13, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

When are the Duke faculty members,NY Times journalists, media and many local citizens of Durham going to apologise?

Posted by: JHarris | April 13, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

I am shocked regarding your comments surrounding the innocent Duke lacrosse players. You speak of elite universities that cater to rich young men as something bad and for that reason they do not deserve the innocent ruling handed down by the AG of NC. The irony here is that I graduated first class of women from Colgate University in 1973, the alma mater to your injured colleague, Bob Woodruff and his wife as well. I can speak directly to the fact that every student that attends these as the media now call Colgate as the New Ivies do not come from wealthy families or rather from families that have made the ultimate sacrifice to give their children the best education possible with no loans incurred by the student namely me. Further were you a choir boy in college? I can say point blank that the fraternity system at Colgate was in full swing during collegiate years for me as I am sure for Bob Woodruff as well. The money that both of you make allowed Bob to have the best medical care possible yet you condemn these young men for affording high caliber attorneys. Do you know the sacrifices financially these families endured? Are you in the know regarding their financial state or making as I assume random judgements. I live in North Carolina and I applaud the AG for his handling of the case and his strong verbage in describing what happened to these young men. The accuser should be held on criminal charges and if proven guilty sent then to a state mental hospital for the criminally insane before this happens to another innocent person. I am tired of outside parties acting as hate mongers in this country further spreading divisiveness here. I speak directly to you, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson. I got into Colgate as one of 25 first women based on my own record and am proud and stronger because of it. Let others stop insisting they are owed something and stand on their own 2 feet. Ask Bob Woodruff about rugby parties.

Posted by: Karen | April 13, 2007, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Moran…
I am going to assume that you have attended college although from this article, I have my doubts…
Just in case you are not aware of this fact…One cannot purchase a “good” reputation to replace the one that has been destroyed by some stripper…
I also think this stripper should spend time in jail for what she has done…
Enough said as I find your article disgusting…

Posted by: Beverly Giannoni | April 13, 2007, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Terry I don’t know how much you make a year but how would you like to pay the same percentage of your income and net worth as these families did in legal bills all for a lie?

Posted by: Al | April 13, 2007, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Boy, talk about being on a high horse! What did it take for this editorialist to get up there, a rocketship?
This article is a perfect example of “trial by media”. If they can’t be guilty of rape, then let them be guilty of not being downtrodden.

Posted by: pyr | April 13, 2007, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Hi Mr Moron-
I am doing a class project on fiascos.
My teacher says we should try to find out from why a sorta smart person does something really stupid.
Could you answer a few questions for me in your next postings so I can use you for my project.
-Why did you think you could get away with such a bad post. Are you always saying (and writing!) stuff that gets you in trouble?
-Why do you think it is fun to hate rich people? Did you parents teach you that?
-Are you black (I can’t tell from your picture)?
-Did you go to a prep school? How much did it cost your parents?
-Do you think you are rich? I found out on the internet that you made 3.7 millions dollars last year. Is that true?
Thank you for helping out my class project. If you can answer this weekend that would be good since I have to do the paper on Monday.
Thank you.

Posted by: college student | April 13, 2007, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Gee, Terry….should we all start banging the war drums & call for your head on a platter? The logical side of me says “Of course not, he has a right to say what he thinks no matter how stupid it might be.” But the angry & impulsive side of me says “Suspend him, make him meet with the young men and apologize, fire him!” Now, if we could just enlist the help of a couple of fast-talking, double-talking, self-proclaimed “Reverends” we might just have a case for railroading you right out of a job.

Posted by: Melinda | April 13, 2007, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

If Moran had said, when this case first broke, that we should feel little sympathy for the “victim” because she was a sripper, there would have been a firstorm of criticism and Mor[o]n would have been out of a job. It is a curious commentary on a world turned upside down that these comments can be made with no reprercussions except the irrelevant rantings of a “privileged” few, whose “conduct, while not illegal, has not always been admirable.” (in contrast, I suppose, to Mr Moran’s conduct, which, I am sure, has always been admirable). Bill

Posted by: bill | April 13, 2007, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Congratulations Terry, your Dukies’ blog is quite the success. Cannot wait for your next blog…
“Free John Couey.”

Posted by: T.M. | April 13, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

This is one of the most obviously racist, disgusting, jealous articles I have ever had the misfortune of reading. People like the author are truly what is wrong with our world and the cause of most misery humans experience. They are not content until everyone around them is on their knees. To describe such people, Gore Vidal said it best, “Every time a friend succeeds, a little part of me dies.”

Posted by: Mark Fowler | April 13, 2007, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

I sincerely hope that you are wrongly accused of a viscious crime to serve some martinet’s selfish desire for political gain, whereupon you lose your job, have your reputation (such as it is) destroyed, and that you are then convicted and sentenced to a lifetime in prison. You disgust me.

Posted by: Adam | April 13, 2007, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

I cannot believe the level of ignorance and hatred this article, and so many of the comments that follow, express. Seriously, because their families are successful it is acceptable that they were wrongly accused of rape and falsely imprisoned. Pathetic…

Posted by: David | April 13, 2007, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

There’s no excuse for supporting the conspiracy and covering-up of a false and financially-motivated accusation.
I’m terribly offended by Mr. Moran’s comments. I call upon Mr. Moran to apologize and grovel before the feet of the Duke Lacrosse players.
I call upon ABC to censure and “do the right thing” by terminating Mr. Moran’s employment immediately.
Never forget, we can boycott ABC’s advertisers!

Posted by: Offended | April 13, 2007, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Ok, Slick here has asked for it. Time to start trolling the web for anyone who was at Lawrence University between 1979-1982, when the good Mr. Moran was there, and see if they have any illuminating tales about his behavior as a college student.
As those were the pre-”Just Say No”, pre-”AIDs as a heterosexual concern” days, I’m betting there might be some gatherings Terry might sooner forget.

Posted by: ComesAround | April 13, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Let’s see now it’s ok to take
money for stripping, because…
that work shouldn’t be crimina-
ized, but it is shameful for
young men to pay them to do? It
demeans the university, but the
behaviour of the faculty
doesn’t? How sad, race, gender
and class trump all. Perhaps if
the boys had been gay…..?

Posted by: kent | April 13, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

the fact that these families are successful seems to bother you. we live in a great country and the opportunity for success is available if you just work. i didn’t know that was a bad thing. you sound petty and jealous.

Posted by: tom myers | April 13, 2007, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

I am so sick and tired of people saying: “When you look at the number of African-American men who have been charged and found guilty in a rush for judgement, they just received a “little taste” of what African-Americans have experienced for decades.” People need to be reminded of the phrase two wrongs don’t make a right. I think that it is terrible when ANYONE is convicted for something they did not do. I don’t like to judge but the overall concensus from the black community, that I hear,leans toward “payback” for things that happened before my lifetime. Those type of comments bree more racism than the comments aimed at the Rudgers womens basketball team! Is that really the path we need to follow? When does it end? Will this come back full circle?

Posted by: estes | April 13, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Sadly, someone like you who should be better informed and less likely to condemn should be more inclined to be generous in your comments. Black, white, rich, poor, educated, illiterate are innocent until proved to be guilty and should not be tried in the media. You should share our sympathy for these young men as well as for ALL
OTHERS wrongly accused. SHAME ON YOU.

Posted by: SWISSMAN | April 13, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Terry, Get off the crap about making people feel guilty for past sins of generations ago. These guys were innocent from the gitgo. It doesn’t make a damn bit of difference if they are white, black, yellow or green in my book. She lied, Nifong surely lied and that makes it even worse.

Posted by: N.C | April 13, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Oy…
I like to see this reporter have that lable of ‘accused rapist’ slapped on him and try to rip it off of his forhead while keeping his job, family, friends and social standing in one piece.
Do the right thing, recend these comments and apologize. Show us you are human.

Posted by: Watcher Prime | April 13, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Good article. Truth to power!

Posted by: j | April 13, 2007, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Terry is a classic case of the decay and bias that permeates the mainstream media. What a load of crap, but I really didn’t expect much else.

Posted by: Gary | April 13, 2007, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

I am shocked that so many people feel that these men somehow deserve this, or shouldn’t be pitied, simply because they are lucky enough to be born to wealthy parents. I guess the Democrat party has achieved it’s sinister goal: they’ve divided Americans along socioeconomic lines, convincing many people that others have an unfair advantage and so should be somehow held back, punished, taxed more heavily, etc. Gee, I wonder how the author of this article votes…

Posted by: Adam | April 13, 2007, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

In the 1980′s and 90′s two camps emerged that went around scaring college kids, changing rules of conduct at work and schools, lecturing prosecutors and the police. One was saying that all sex was in fact rape (Andrea Dworkin came up with that), that violence against women went through the roof during the Superbowl, and the Constitutional right to see whomever we want after work- even if it was a co- employee- was sexual harrasment. We were all told that 3 out of 4 college girls were raped! By students they know! And frat boys and athletes were the number one culprit.
No wonder the prosecutor didn’t bother to check the facts – why question feminism? It was all textbook knowledge- the boys had to do it.
The second group told tales of day care centers involved in satanic sexual abuse. Janet Reno went to the White House on that one. Kids as young as 6 and younger- were put in jails until they “admitted” they had been sexually abused. It takes a village, indeed.
Today dozens have come forward to say there was none.
And the left wonders why we have doubts about their version of global warming?
No question there are feminists who throw up when they hear about a boss marrying his secretary, jocks hiring strippers. No question.
But how much longer are we expected to go along with their nonsense?
Funny story- when Wal-Mart went to Germany the employees looked at the manuals and walked off. Wal-Mart was stunned. Lawsuits were filed. To the shock of Wal-Mart the lawsuits charged it was not their business who the employees dated. Wal-Mart argued that since the 90′s, almost all major companies fire employees that date in the U.S.
The German judge told them if Americans want to give up their constitutional rights that is their buisness. But in Germany- they refuse to. The employees won.
Now the above author, rather than say some women do lie about rape- says it doesn’t matter because the kids are rich.
Before we put a Democrat in the White House, we need to ask ourselves a question.
Are we ready to surrender more rights to these people?

Posted by: DJ Psychomike | April 13, 2007, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Have you ever considered the ministry. You need something to consume your delusional mind continually and that would fulfill it! Please refrain from calling yourself a reporter in the future as you would know it to be non-conforming to truth in advertising.

Posted by: Myron Draper | April 13, 2007, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

if they were “poor” would we be allowed to feel sorry for them? Why are we not allowed to feel sorrow or anything sympathetic because they are affluent? I gather from this nonsense that being affluent makes you deserve anything bad that comes your way by nature of your wealth.

Posted by: dthill | April 13, 2007, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

That’s what it’s all about isn’t it Terry? It doesn’t matter if innocent,rich white boys are falsely charged with a crime. Why, they’ll get by; anyway they probably deserve it. Moran, you’re a moron. I hope some day you find yourself in just such a situation without the resources to bail yourself out. You’ll get what you so evidently deserve, a spot in legal hell and no one to bail you out. Since you haven’t been there yet, why don’t you shut your ignorant mouth.

Posted by: Julian Lewis | April 13, 2007, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

I truly hope Terry loses his job over this article. That may be the most boneheaded article I have ever read.
I am just glad his true identity are being exposed so people really know how Terry really thinks when they watch him on the news.

Posted by: John Brown | April 13, 2007, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA
You have got to be kidding me……..do you really believe the garbage that you are spewing here? Get over it; they’re innocent and she deserves to go to jail.
Way to go Moron……

Posted by: Jarrad | April 13, 2007, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Yes Mr Moron thanks for this piece I will never forget your name

Posted by: Los Banos Ca | April 13, 2007, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Terry Moran should be fired! He believes in justice only if you can’t afford it. Even a person with a small brain should be able to see that the prosecutor over reached on this case just to be re-elected. He should be made to pay. As we expect, somebody as goofy as “Moron” is a good spokesman for the media: biased!

Posted by: John Thomasson | April 13, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Terry:
Being poor or rich does not excuse poor or criminal behavior. Why is it OK to falsely accuse someone and it’s not questioned because she is a “poor, black woman?” Why aren’t black activists and feminists taking her to task because of the way she gave life to the stereotypes they rightfully decry. Imus was fired for slandering athletes in the name of humor, yet for months Nifong through the prestige of his office and the media who refused to ask obvious questions, gave credibility to false, slanderous statements. Imus rightfully has been roundly castigated for his comments, and is apologizing specifically to the Rutgers athletes and his audience. But we see Nifong “apologizing”, showing his unrepentance by hiding behind “if they were falsely accused”. And I don’t hear your colleagues apologizing to the Duke athletes for mindlessly carrying the story without questioning it because they are rich and from a southern “white” university. Seems like stereotypes go both ways.
Makes one wish it were a requirement for every newsman to blog, so we could get a clear view, like we did with this piece, Terry, how social and political bias does in fact color the news reporting we read.

Posted by: Harry Sonke | April 13, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

I am so sick and tired of people saying things like; “When you look at the number of African-American men who have been charged and found guilty in a rush for judgement, they just received a “little taste” of what African-Americans have experienced for decades.” How sick is that? People need to be reminded of the phrase two wrongs don’t make a right. I think that it is terrible when ANYONE is convicted for something they did not do. I don’t like to judge but the overall concensus from the black community, that I hear, leans toward “payback whitey” for things that happened before my lifetime. Those type of comments breed more racism than the comments aimed at the Rudgers womens basketball team! Is that really the path we need to follow? When does it end? Will this come back full circle?

Posted by: estes | April 13, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Yo, Terry. Where did you go to college? Did you prep? Did you ever go to a bachelor party for a friend at a strip club? Let’s be honest now, Terr.

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Terry-
Given the length of time that your blog postings has been on the Drudge Report (and Drudge’s current hit rate), it can be calculated that ~1 million unique viewers have repeat your post and
99.99% have concluded that you are a malicious blowhard, a punk or a fool. Or maybe all 3.
Add to that another 1.3 million viewers from MSNBC and local stations that have carried stories on your idiotic comments.
And over 2 million Americans now regard Terry Moran, formerly of ABCNews, as the posterchild for braindead political correctness and biased journalism.
This is gradually becoming one of the most famous blog posts of all time.

Posted by: running the numbers | April 13, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

What has happened to reporters just reporting the facts?? What has happened to journalist integrity?? How can reporters give their opinions on blogs and than report the evening news objectively? Just report the freaking news!!

Posted by: Isabella LaPera | April 13, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Nothing can be said which has not yet been said in the comments above. Like many college aged adults, their behavior may be boorish but not illegal. We now know that prosecutorial misconduct occured and as such the legal system was intentionally subverted. You would have us believe that moral outrage should be tempered due to the size of the victim’s bank account.
I can assure you that your income is substantially higher than many in this country. I find it hard to believe that you would support a sliding scale of public indifference and moral outrage if you too were wrongly accused and were victimized by prosecutorial misconduct. Your views are self evident as to why main stream media is becoming less and less mainstream and as such deminished and marginalized.

Posted by: c jones | April 13, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Sorry but you are wrong on this one. Whether your liberal bias has blurred your brain cells your need a serious attitude adjustment.
I wonder if you would have written this article if they had been convicted and served a sentence and then a couple of years later found out they were wrongly accused. Wouldn’t your views be totally different? Why write an article blasting these three men and siding with the “accuser” who has set back women rights 100 years not to mention the proverbial “Where do I go to get my reputation back”. The three men do not deserve to have you write that even though they have been vindicated they are still guilty because they were lucky to have gone to Duke University, and since we do not know their financial statement who really knows if they were really wealthy frat boys and deserved to be ridiculed . You do not know their parents financial statement or maybe what the real cost for all families have been. Because of an overzealous and manipulative DA, there are no facts that anything happened between the three men and the accuser. Therefore, you have no facts to give any sympathy to the accuser. Shame on you as a journalist, you need to have your journalistic integrity badge revoked.

Posted by: Carolyn Elster | April 13, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Typical drive by media dribble. Must remember henceforth that if you happen to have the means to hire top flight attorneys you should not do so as that wouldn’t be fair to the rest of us who don’t have big bucks. Suck it up and get convicted on some trumped up charges, go to prison and get sodomized by some dolt who claims to be an ABC journalist. God save us from these media idiots.

Posted by: Mags | April 13, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

I think what the writer is really saying is that white men who are rich deserve to be treated poorly as price to be paid for the sins of their fathers. That is american liberalism, jump on and off the band wagon and blame the rich white for the problems … when will they look in the mirror.

Posted by: Ron | April 13, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Can’t we all just get along? I mean, mother earth, that’s why were all hear after all, to save mother earth from global warming and global climate change, it’s not about the privliged right upper class that doesnt pay there fair share when the earth temperture is increasing the the rising oceans will soon make this all irelvant and were going to need to work togever to overcome global warming global warming is the single most impotent issue are climate faces today. please do your part, ride a bike or walk. please wake up people to global warming and climate change. it’s going to be hot this sumer becauze of global warming. 700 million poeple dies in 2006 as a result of global warmning and the damage it did to them. please please please. i have several children and I dont want them to live underground becauze the global warming will be to hot. mother earth must be saved at all cost. stop global climate warming change by walking. also stop cleer cutting forest, and mercurry and the slotter of dolfins in the tunafish industry. pelosi helps the tunefish. stop global climate warming change.

Posted by: gumby | April 13, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

I can’t believe what I just read. I don’t know what to say. I thought you were a knob when I watched you at the White House. Now I don’t what to call you without cursing while doing so. I hope you lose your job you class baiting loser.

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

On second thought…who cares, Terry. Blogs are self-indulgent garbage. Blog your head off with your simple devil’s advocate viewpoints.

Posted by: Jeff | April 13, 2007, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

After reading your article I think you should change your name to Terry Moron.

Posted by: Paul Donini | April 13, 2007, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

I would expect nothing less than race-baiting and cries of class warfare from the left. It’s people like this that cause network news ratings to go into the tank. Somebody pass the Kool-Aid and the tinfoil hat.

Posted by: Kevin | April 13, 2007, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

No wonder I never heard of Terry Moran before today. He has no concept of logic.

Posted by: billdill | April 13, 2007, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Do you, Mr. Moran, actually believe the crap you wrote in this article? Or, did you simply write this piece of garbage to get the rise out of those of us who actually possess the common sense that you clearly lack. I wish I could say that this the end of ABC in my book, but that wouldn’t be accurate….ABC has been dead to me for years. Thsnks for the reaffirmation.

Posted by: E | April 13, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

ABC should fire you! You are so far out of the norm, that you should be considered a criminal for advocating
extreme racial intolerance. You are
worse than the perpetrator — at least she had the excuses of ignorance, no education, and mental illness — what is your excuse????

Posted by: paul | April 13, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

Terry-
Given the length of time that your blog postings has been on the Drudge Report (and Drudge’s current hit rate), it can be calculated that ~1 million unique viewers have repeat your post and
99.99% have concluded that you are a malicious blowhard, a punk or a fool. Or maybe all 3.
Add to that another 1.3 million viewers from MSNBC and local stations that have carried stories on your idiotic comments.
And over 2 million Americans now regard Terry Moran, formerly of ABCNews, as the posterchild for braindead political correctness and biased journalism.
This is gradually becoming one of the most famous blog posts of all time.

Posted by: running the numbers | April 13, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

And people think that Imus should be fired? People are victims of a prosecutor gone wild and Mr. Moran tells us, hey don’t worry about that.
Wow.

Posted by: Thomas Smith | April 13, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

To Terry Moron and the rest of his left wing whack job buddys in the “mainstream media”. I think it’s about time some of you clowns got your asses sued and or fired for some of the idiodic comments you make on a daily basis. A valid comparison is Don Imus’s comment about the Rutger’s women B-Ball team, and your comment about the “Dukies”. Of course his “racist rant” is an insult to “African Americans” so he gets castrated by the world. Your “insightful observations” are about “rich white boys” so, you get to wallow in your pompus filth with zero retribution.
Guess what Terry, you’re just as much of a racist and a bigot as Don Imus is.

Posted by: H. Coaler | April 13, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

It’s really funny to read an article like this coming from a guy who makes more in a year than most of us will ever make in a lifetime. You’re a real piece of work to believe the garbage you just posted here.
Hey Mor[o]n, they’re innocent, she’s guilty, get over it. This has NOTHING to do with their economic background or the fact that she is black. Would this case have gotten the same attention if three black college students from Howard had raped a white stripper? I’m willing to bet that it wouldn’t.

Posted by: Jarrad | April 13, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Another wealthy, white, left-wing reporter spews populist nonsense so as to appear a “man of the people”. I think we’ve seen this before.
What exactly is it about media types that causes them to carry on like this? Is it white guilt or simply a burning desire to be seen as the most charitable liberal at the next ABC cocktail party? You know, the ones where other white, wealthy, liberal media types mill-about complaining about evils of big business and corporate America.
Yeah, I know, you’re different because you always remember to be especially nice to the poor chap who fetches your car at the end of the evening.
A true man of the people.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Wow – your thinking is really contorted.
Let’s reorient the culture of the law profession to look for truth. My understanding is that is what the DA is supposed to do.

Posted by: frank Urben | April 13, 2007, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Yes, there are blacks wrongly accused who never get vindication, then there are blacks (such as OJ) who are RIGHTLY accused but never see punishment… and your point is???
Oh, these kids came from privilege and could afford legal representation. And OJ? Michael Jackson? Hey Terry… shut up!

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

What is so bad about what Terry is saying? All liberals feel this way.
It is their purpose to socialize America, no one should have more than any one else. Enough with the racism agenda. Blacks like every one else has had enough time in history to rectify the wrongs to them. So, shut up and get on with life.

Posted by: Stan | April 13, 2007, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

This is obviously just an inane attempt to draw attention to oneself by a member of the media. No one really believes this article, that one should not feel sorry for these young men accused unjustly of rape and other heinous crimes.

Posted by: randy | April 13, 2007, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Your comments are unbelievable, full of class-envy and jealousy. Crystal Gail Mangum is a liar and despicable human being. Read her long rap sheet (you brought up one charge one of the Duke boys had).

Posted by: Jo Jo | April 13, 2007, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

I think this story was written this to get a rise out of the auduence. The tongue-in-cheek attitude is pretty obvious, but it did the job … just look at the responses. If I am wrong about this, then the author has no understanding of what elevates America and its notion of freedom, trial by jury, and that all men are created equal, over many other nations. It won’t be too long until Imus’ of the nation rot in political prisions and we decide that being rich is grounds for persecution.

Posted by: Toby Henry | April 13, 2007, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

I’m not understanding your point when you mention the Dukies hiring of a top shelf defense team…what do you expect them to do, go with public defenders? Maybe they or their families should give away all their money so that jerks like you won’t ridicule them for doing what any sane person would do when charged for a crime not committed.
How did you get this job?

Posted by: Kevin | April 13, 2007, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

I am astounded by the stupidity of vast the majority of individuals in this country. These three young men were wrongfully accused. Period. End of story. Mike Nifong should be disbarred and pay restitution. The nappy headed ho should be in jail where she belongs.

Posted by: jr | April 13, 2007, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

No matter how rich and “white” these guys parents are, they can’t buy back their sons good names or another year of their lives which was wasted fighting for their freedom. You only get one chance at life and these guys college experience was stolen from them by a DA and a no good lying stripper. I guess all us rich “white” guys better watch each others backs because it suddenly appears to be open season on us.

Posted by: Randy | April 13, 2007, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

No matter how rich and “white” these guys parents are, they can’t buy back their sons good names or another year of their lives which was wasted fighting for their freedom. You only get one chance at life and these guys college experience was stolen from them by a DA and a no good lying stripper. I guess all us rich “white” guys better watch each others backs because it suddenly appears to be open season on us.

Posted by: Randy | April 13, 2007, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

I am just glad it’s over – I’ve had enough of the deception involved with the whole thing. I can hardly believe that the accuser is going to walk free, after her LIES put everyone in the position they got in. Granted, Nifong saw the chance for political gain, and probably deserves what he gets out of this, but if it weren’t for the accuser’s LIES, he wouldn’t even be heard of in this part of the Texas. I think it’s a terrible injustice to let her run free, and have the chance to do this again. As for the boys, sure they’re probably not as innocent as it seemed, but then again, we’ve all got skeletons in our closets. But they were just being college boys, throwing a party to take down memory lane. I’ll bet they never forget this one.

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

The fact that people are comparing the Rutgers and Duke incidents highlights the sense of anti-racism white people fear. Don’t be too paranoid, at least our capitalist societal system doesn’t hate you. How about people stop being whiny just because they are asked to reflect on the unpleasant state of race relations in this country. Yeah it’s inconvenient to realize not everyone lives in a house, in a suburb, with a secure income, and good education for their children. If we weren’t so combative and just looked at the actual situation, a little more humility will be fused into your thinking.

Posted by: Anthony | April 13, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Guess you didn’t hear Reade Seligman’s comments. He SPECIFICALLY stated that he learned much about the “justice” system in this country, and he SPECIFICALLY said that he and his teammates were lucky enough to have the financial resources to properly defend themselves, and he SPECIFICALLY noted that there are others who are not so lucky. Listening to him, I thought he might actually think about becoming a lawyer to try to correct this imbalance within our system. You are a reporter. Reade’s statement should not have been hard for you to find. Do some research before you spew in an article!!

Posted by: flk | April 13, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

“Although tasteless, they Duke players did nothing illegal! I’m tired of the PC crowd double standard for being born white. Just watch commercials today and every other one has a white guy acting stupid while a minority saves the day – enough is enough. Everyone should be viewed according to their character not their skin color.
Posted by: More ABC BS | Apr 13, 2007 9:53:03 PM”
I’m glad someone else out there has noticed this trend in advertising. It’s enough to make you gag (or not want to support the products being advertised)

Posted by: Jarrad | April 13, 2007, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Duh, terry moron has no clue. To even mention the fact that these men go to an ivy leage school shows his prejudice and should be barred as a jouralist (a commentator maybe journalist no) why is that even brought into the equation, it would be as equally retarted to say that the poorvade girl who brought the charges was wrong be it for her economic status. once you cross that line of bringing your tainted opinions into a case (that you are reporting on) you show (hopefully) to everyone what a El you are. If you are at your local pub, or at a elite swankey resteraunt talking politics, great I love that stuff. Being passionate about what goes on in your world is important to me but equally important is, (as a reporter) you know how to you reort, or decide. moron has picked the later

Posted by: james caponigro | April 13, 2007, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

While it is sad that innocent people have been convicted by unscrupulous prosecuters, Why does anyone take take pleasure at what these guys went through? I doubt any of them had the race baiters of Jackson and Sharpton who gain national attention anytime they join a cause protesting against them every step of the way. Nor did they have hundreds of people who were supposedly their teachers, administrators and peers publicly convicted them and kicking them out of school. I tell you who I feel sorry for, anyone that feels a group of people “deserve” to be mistreated..

Posted by: TLang | April 13, 2007, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Duh, terry moron has no clue. To even mention the fact that these men go to an ivy leage school shows his prejudice and should be barred as a jouralist (a commentator maybe journalist no) why is that even brought into the equation, it would be as equally retarted to say that the poorvade girl who brought the charges was wrong be it for her economic status. once you cross that line of bringing your tainted opinions into a case (that you are reporting on) you show (hopefully) to everyone what a El you are. If you are at your local pub, or at a elite swankey resteraunt talking politics, great I love that stuff. Being passionate about what goes on in your world is important to me but equally important is, (as a reporter) you know how to you reort, or decide. moron has picked the later

Posted by: james caponigro | April 13, 2007, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

I can’t believe such an illogical article. When an author starts this far away from reality, no hope exists that he will recognize the truth whenever he sees it. It’s this kind of media that opens the door for Nifongs.

Posted by: Myles | April 13, 2007, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

I would like to know what a psychiatrist thinks about these three young men. I believe they are suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and deserve all of our sympathy. Is there a doctor posting here that would voice an answer to this?

Posted by: Gary Burnett | April 13, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Here’s an apology for the Dukey-boys: “So sorry that the humiliating crap you fired at these women that night ricochetted back and splattered upon your own cowardly faces. I was moved when I saw you crying to your Daddy. I know you were also moved when one of the outnumbered women cried during your gang’s barrage of verbal abuse and hatred. You were so moved, that you just kept it coming until they ran off. We are all so so very moved…life just isn’t fair. But chin-up, Dukey-boys; life does go on!”

Posted by: Queenofspades | April 13, 2007, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

True the other abuses are not exposed as they should be. But for crying out loud where do you get off driving these guys in the dirt. Priveleged and well to do or not, they too were victims. I’ll be willing to bet you think all the rich people should pay more taxes (They pay a lot more than you and me) and all successful people should be forced to give up what they have worked hard to others who have less. Socialism?????? I may be middle class and stuggling but I’ll never go there! And neither should you.

Posted by: Marc | April 13, 2007, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Mr. Moran: Have you NO SHAME !!! This is one of he most unfeeling and unkind articles I have ever read. I pray you get counseling and come to grips with what ever demon you have.

Posted by: Clint | April 13, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

I am certainly disappointed that my campaign to put Terry on the Lawrence University Board has been thwarted by petty bureaucrats. Long live the T Man!!

Posted by: Andrew Kratowski | April 13, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

I am certainly disappointed that my campaign to put Terry on the Lawrence University Board has been thwarted by petty bureaucrats. Long live the T Man!!

Posted by: Andrew Kratowski | April 13, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

“Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.”
Unbelievable. Are our very sexual proclivities now to be held up to politically correct scrutiny?
Tell me, Mr. Moran, are you married, and if so, is she white? Why not a black woman, Mr. Moran? Why not an Asian or Hispanic?

Posted by: Richard | April 13, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

…and the saddest part is:
While 95% of the readers find this article outrageous, 95% of the authors co-workers will think more of him for having written it.
And then they will re-assure themselves that they represent mainstream America.
Ah, where would we be without our enlightened journalists.
I challenge you, Terry, to put your money where your mouth is. Why not willingly commit to a lower-middle class lifestyle and then donate the rest of your income to the government? (I would say “charity” but we all know that Socialists prefer that the government decide who is most in need)
Since you so-deplore the trappings of success and wealth, this should not be a difficult step for you.
Show us that you truly are a man of the people.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

I agree with you. Not a lot of discussion on how they got in this mess in the first place. They learned a good lesson the hard way. Let us hope that they will remember this lesson.

Posted by: Leslie | April 13, 2007, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Nifong attempted to destroy the lives of three innocent, young men (not to mention the impact on their families, Coach Pressler, Duke University, and the sport of lacrosse in general) — these men faced very long jail sentences, death threats and international scorn
and all because Nifong felt he needed to orchestrate this travesty of justice in order to win the Democratic Party’s primary election.
He is a revolting human being that belongs in prison.

Posted by: Carlos | April 13, 2007, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

wow, Thats one way to make the reporter more important than the story

Posted by: Dana | April 13, 2007, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

I agree with you. Not a lot of discussion on how they got in this mess in the first place. They learned a good lesson the hard way. Let us hope that they will remember this lesson.

Posted by: Leslie | April 13, 2007, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

Package up you liberal bias and send it to China… I’m sure you would have along and fruitful life…that is until you opened you mouth and let all the blather out…No one should be treated like the Duke students… their lives have been damaged… White or black makes no difference… everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty… The Duke students were convicted and tried in the court of public opinion before any of the evidence was even presented… Nifong needs to go to jail for his malfeasance and the university and all those who castigated and excoriated these boys needs to be sued

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

I guess your last name matches you real well. Moran or Moron. You call yourself an unbiased reporter when you post this garbage. Give me a break. No wonder your so-called profession is viewed in such low regard by the public. I am now more thankful than ever to have left the terrible profession you’re in. Get your head out of the sand and get with reality and stop your one sided, biased reporting.

Posted by: Glenn | April 13, 2007, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

I agree with you. Not a lot of discussion on how they got in this mess in the first place. They learned a good lesson the hard way. Let us hope that they will remember this lesson.

Posted by: Leslie | April 13, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Where is the sympathy in the media for possibly the largest group of misprosecuted criminals and those are the marijuana felons. The people who’s only crime was to smoke a dried plant. That the media buys into and supports this war on drugs, which is mainly a war on marijuana, should be a crime. In a just and fair society, a society of free peoples, the right to seek solace in chemicals not on the governments approved list should be obvious – not a crime. The criminal justice system is no longer about justice, it is about control and the marijuana laws are used to control people they don’t like. Rich white kids with dope go to rehab, poor white kids go to jail. Marijuana laws are a tool for social control and the media ignores this as it turns a blind eye to everyone and everything that isn’t a dead celebrity or a missing white girl. Isn’t it time the news media covered the news? Aint it time to report on whats really going on, instead of who’s sleeping with whom and 7 quick diet tips that really work?

Posted by: Jack Jarvin | April 13, 2007, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Terry:
You must be out of your mind. I would normaly curse you as an idiot but your column is left of left. As a moderate, I tend to lean to the left but you make me sick and you only drive me further to the right. The rich Duke white boys do come from wealth but that makes no difference whatsover. If you were not such a moron, you would realize that it is the rich white folks that are wrongly accused that get the laws changed. If it was only the poor minorities, nobody would really care and innocent folks (poor and minority) would rot in our jails.
Anyway, I have one question for your editors: Did you go to college or did they pick you up off a turnip truck?
my stock in ABC news just went down and next time I am surfing the net, I will skip ABC.com
Matthew Liss
Roswell, Georgia

Posted by: Matthew Liss | April 13, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Who cares if these kids made some serious errors in judgment? College age kids, rich and poor, make really stupid mistakes. Rape is MORE than a stupid mistake, and to falsely accuse these guys is a twisted and horrible act by a young and troubled woman.
The prosecutor’s and the media’s reaction to this girl’s accusation is the real crime. I’m glad it happened to these guys because they had the resources to expose the real perpetrators. Now, will the real criminals step forward?

Posted by: Barbara | April 13, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Yep, rich guys that had the means to fight off an attack by an overzealous, mean-spirited DA, media, University and community. People who are rich who have been accused falsely….hmm, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, OJ Simpson. Ted Kennedy. Yet none came to defend the rich kids when they were accused. Wo unto the hypocrite.

Posted by: Jasen | April 13, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

I will never consider Mr. Moran seriously again.
Is there an equivalent to Al Sharpton for white males to bring in to get Mr. Moran fired? This is worse than what Imus said.

Posted by: Ted Brown | April 13, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Terry:
You must be out of your mind. I would normaly curse you as an idiot but your column is left of left. As a moderate, I tend to lean to the left but you make me sick and you only drive me further to the right. The rich Duke white boys do come from wealth but that makes no difference whatsover. If you were not such a moron, you would realize that it is the rich white folks that are wrongly accused that get the laws changed. If it was only the poor minorities, nobody would really care and innocent folks (poor and minority) would rot in our jails.
Anyway, I have one question for your editors: Did you go to college or did they pick you up off a turnip truck?
my stock in ABC news just went down and next time I am surfing the net, I will skip ABC.com
Matthew Liss
Roswell, Georgia

Posted by: Matthew Liss | April 13, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Outrageous. Just when you think ABC can’t sink any lower than they have with Rosie O’Donnell, they trot out someone with equally insipid rantings…
Hey Terry–try some fish. Or some sudoku. Anything to see if you can get those neurons firing again.

Posted by: Boycotting ABC | April 13, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I call for the firing of Terry Moran for his reprehensible comments regarding the wrongful prosecution of the Duke Lacrosse players. I think this is part of the discussion we need to have regarding “what we are willing to tolerate” on our airwaves and in our media, to quote a very famous(lately)hypocrite and racist.

Posted by: Tim | April 13, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

The DUKE players should look to the NBA and NFL players for ruls of conduct and behavior.
We all what class acts these gentleman are.
Ok sarcastic moment is over.
This editorial is the most disturbing thing I have ever read in my life. Accussed of RAPE and with a sentence of 20 to life, Prosecutor misconduct to the highest degree,a nd because they’re white and rich it’s no big deal.
No wonder your ratings are so low.
That’s about the most pathetic thing I’ve ever read in my life. Truly pitiful!
BTW is your last name Moran or MORON?

Posted by: Anthony | April 13, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

This rubbish is scary. ABC should think long and hard about the damage that this posting has done to its integrity. Being associated with a person of Moran’s warped logic is an indictment of ABC’s management. He has exercised his free speech. It isn’t worth an intelligent reader’s time. I will be sharing this example of ABC’s product to all my friends to expose its lack of ability to judge what is fair and what deserves to be in the public domain. Moran, you are one sick puppy.

Posted by: Ed | April 13, 2007, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

With regard to Imus: Imus got fired for doing what he does, shock radio. A person should be judged on their deeds, not on a single act. Let’s look at his..
Imus raised millions of dollars for charities that benefited children of all races and religiions. The ones who will ultimately suffer the most from this incident are the kids; and of those, I’ll bet a great number are poor and black. How much money do Sharpton and Jackson raise for charity?
Imus has a history of offending everyone. He is after all a “Shock Jock”. Howard Stern was his spawn. Why do we judge him for saying something that was offensive? That’s his job. The only mistake he made was apologizing. He had nothing to be sorry for.

Posted by: Jake | April 13, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Interesting. A woman was raped a few weeks ago on campus by a black man who also attends Duke. Where was the media frenzy? Where was the call for an investigation? No the fact is our MSM loves to see, regardless as to if they are guilty or not, white men charged for crimes against minorities. It’s like a feeding frenzy.

Posted by: Jason | April 13, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

This woman tarnished the reputations of three innocent individuals. There is no reason to compare this situation with any other wrongful lawsuits, they have absolutely nothing to do with the case at hand. If anyone is disappointed with the legal system, they should deal with the case at hand, In this case, three innocent men were sent through Hell and back to prove their innocence. Yes, they hired strippers, is that a crime? To my understanding it is accepted as a legal situation. The accused individuals are at no fault for purchasing this service which was advertised and provided to them. This woman who’s credibility is extremely non reliable due to previous false allegations should not be allowed to lead a normal life without any penalization for the harm that she has caused. Although the families of these individuals are affluent, there is no reason that they should be forced to endure legal fees estimated at 1 million dollars per family. The accuser should be held responsible for these legal fees for the duration of time that it takes her to earn them. It is an injustice to our legal system that a woman can cry rape and once proven to be a liar, walk away unscathed.

Posted by: laura | April 13, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

I want to know the name of the journalist that wrote this article. I had enough of bias agains white males. I’m tired of it. On campus, in public offices you can feal the animosity. Most of it stemmming from the influence of left wing college professors and journalists. Its time we fight back..

Posted by: Jan | April 13, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Don’t feel too sorry for ABC reporter Bob Woodruff, who nearly got his head blown off in Iraq. He was rich. And white. Lots of black folks almost get their head blown off. They don’t have highly paid surgeons to sew their heads back on. It is unseemly to heap praise and sympathy on rich, white reporters who stupidly roam around in war zones. Ever been to Iraq, Terry?

Posted by: JJ | April 13, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Mr. Moran,
Are you simply trying to create controversy with these statements? Because a reasonable journalist would not conflate hiring strippers with accusations of gang rape, nor tar every person at the party with the few who hurled racial epithets at the other dancer (who admitted to starting the name calling). Besides, one of the “privileged” sons, Reade Seligman, wasn’t even there when this exchange took place.
Funny that justice finally arrives to 3 men who were truly attacked at the same time as a manufactured controversy makes “journalists” like yourself side with the Rutgers women’s team.
Actually it would be funny, if it weren’t so pathetic. Shame.

Posted by: playscape | April 13, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Thanks Mr. Moran for injecting some sanity into this issue.

Posted by: miles | April 13, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

This woman tarnished the reputations of three innocent individuals. There is no reason to compare this situation with any other wrongful lawsuits, they have absolutely nothing to do with the case at hand. If anyone is disappointed with the legal system, they should deal with the case at hand, In this case, three innocent men were sent through Hell and back to prove their innocence. Yes, they hired strippers, is that a crime? To my understanding it is accepted as a legal situation. The accused individuals are at no fault for purchasing this service which was advertised and provided to them. This woman who’s credibility is extremely non reliable due to previous false allegations should not be allowed to lead a normal life without any penalization for the harm that she has caused. Although the families of these individuals are affluent, there is no reason that they should be forced to endure legal fees estimated at 1 million dollars per family. The accuser should be held responsible for these legal fees for the duration of time that it takes her to earn them. It is an injustice to our legal system that a woman can cry rape and once proven to be a liar, walk away unscathed.

Posted by: laura | April 13, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Justice should be justice in America, no matter your race, gender or income. I find it a shame that any innocent person should be forced to have the means to come up with a million dollars to prove their innocence.
This case had a bad air about it from the beginning. Did most of the mainstream media pick up on that. NO. Even when it became apparent, did the mainstream media beat the drum for justice. NO.
Don’t use issues of class and money to deflect from the fact that you did not do (or were not really smart enough to do) your job.
You failed miserably in this case, just as you and others before you have failed in other cases were the innocent were accused.
You should be ashamed. Admit it. The Fourth Estate has become the Failed Estate. Stop parroting spin and start investigating. Get off your butt, step away from the computer and do your damn job. No wonder America is flocking to the internet (and away from TV and newspapers) to get information.

Posted by: BJ Gibbs | April 13, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Don’t get too upset with Terry Moron. Asking him if he is aware of the loony far left bias of the Main Stream Media crowd in which he lives is like asking your dog if he knows he is a dog.

Posted by: William Grubb | April 13, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

wow, sounds like you have a jelousy issue there big guy. just because these guys are rich they dont deserve justice? But that was the whole point of this show trial wasnt it. lets pit the rich white guys against the poor black people so some other rich white guy can get elected. I think you missed the story. maybe you should focus on the white guy manipulating the mostly black electorate

Posted by: random dude | April 13, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Terry,
You are a small, small “man”. Why do you hate the Duke students? We should all celebrate the fact that justice has finally been served. Your article says more about you and ABC then the wrongfully accused.

Posted by: Jader | April 13, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

It’s amazing the number of people who just can’t get by race. It’s ok to hate whitey or anyone suspected of being a Republican. Hate!Hate!Hate! Think!!!

Posted by: Robert Lynn | April 13, 2007, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Having been the victim of an attempted railroading and cover-up by police thirty-five years ago,my heart goes out to these young men and their families.
I was exonerated and the record was expunged, but my life was never the same again. My faith in “the system” was washed away and replaced with a healthy dose of wariness.
This is not a “bump in the road” for these young men. It will stay with them always and will likely adversely affect their lives for decades to come.
As for their tormentors, especially the scurrilous coward, Mike Nifong, I can omly hope that there is a special corner in Hell dedicated to those like him who would use their office and the lives of innocents to advance their career.
Same mindset as Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot. Just less power.
Loss of position and money for this guy is not nearly enough. He needs to spend time in the place he was willing to send Seligman, Finnerty, and Evans so he could advance his personal agenda.
The MSM,the Duke faculty and administration, and a host of public service officials all need to be brought to task and to answer and pay for their callous
rush to judgment.
Anything less is unacceptable.

Posted by: G K Johnson | April 13, 2007, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Terry,
You are a small, small “man”. Why do you hate the Duke students? We should all celebrate the fact that justice has finally been served. Your article says more about you and ABC then the wrongfully accused.

Posted by: Jader | April 13, 2007, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Nifong should have a train run on his sorry ass.

Posted by: g.a.b. | April 13, 2007, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

This is how many people thinks. Just like Terry Moran and many of the posts here. It’s a crime to be rich… In fact, If people where not willing to work hard and create surplus, successfull businesses and inventions we would still be in the stone age. Many people do not seem to recognize this. I myself have tried both rich and poor and neither of them are easy, they are just different. Society should admire succsessfull, hard working people, not envy them and steal their money through taxation..

Posted by: jan | April 13, 2007, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

What’s wrong with requesting a white stripper? Is it now mandated by law that one must be equally sexually attracted to all races? Is gender and age next?

Posted by: Crow | April 13, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

The Duke case is far more important than the Imus case, but neither even on the scale vs. the war on islamic terror. Terry, our country is at war, Americans are being killed daily by jihadists, are leaders are incompetent and are immersed in new scadals week after week! Terry: wake up and stop wasting hours of network time over third rate stories, that are used to increase ratings. Your duty is to report the important news, and nothing is more important than the war on terrorism. Do not waste the serious Americans’ time and force us to get all our news elsewhere. I no longer even waste time on cable news. PBS seems to be the only serious news channel left on TV!

Posted by: STEVE | April 13, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Terry Moran Should be FIRED. If Imus was fired, this is WORSE. I had enough.

Posted by: Jan | April 13, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Let’s see if I have this right. These “dukies” are rich kids who can get the best lawyers. Now if they were poor kids who attended another school they couldn’t have gotten all the legal talent and could have been railroaded by the Durham DA. This reporter is an opinion writer who has a bad case of bias and class envy. I feel sorry for the three students who have been humiliated, abused and subjected to the political wishes of a DA who deliberately tried to ruin their lives Ever stop to think what would have happened if the three young men were black and the accuser was white. Jesse and Reverend Al would have been taking up residence in Durham and having daily rallies….with ABC giving all of it as much coverage as possible. Folks….this is a case of racism but not of the Sharpton kind.

Posted by: JE | April 13, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Let’s see if I have this right. These “dukies” are rich kids who can get the best lawyers. Now if they were poor kids who attended another school they couldn’t have gotten all the legal talent and could have been railroaded by the Durham DA. This reporter is an opinion writer who has a bad case of bias and class envy. I feel sorry for the three students who have been humiliated, abused and subjected to the political wishes of a DA who deliberately tried to ruin their lives Ever stop to think what would have happened if the three young men were black and the accuser was white. Jesse and Reverend Al would have been taking up residence in Durham and having daily rallies….with ABC giving all of it as much coverage as possible. Folks….this is a case of racism but not of the Sharpton kind.

Posted by: JE | April 13, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

Terry, normally I wouldn’t get so uptight about drivel from B-list reporters, but your posting is noxious and it makes me sick to my stomach. You ought to lose your job for this kind of racism and classism, or at least your title as a journalist. No, better yet, you ought to have a disclaimer next to your name “Terry Moran, Yellow Journalist.” One more thing, if you happen to find yourself maliciously prosecuted for a crime you did not commit, make sure you don’t seek “special treatment [from] the justice system,” like hiring the best attorneys and investigators; that would be crazy.

Posted by: Nicolle Martin | April 13, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

I am shaking my head just like the majority of these posts. Liberal tripe, like this spew of an article, is going to bring down this country. The legal system is there to protect EVERYONE! Terry Moran, you have free speech just like everyone else but in this case, please keep your moronic comments to yourself. You make Imus look like Solomon.

Posted by: Kevin Solid | April 13, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

This reminds me of the Al Capone case when the government could not convict him of all the crimes he had commited they turned to the IRS to convict him for non payment of taxes.
When you have money or your parents are wealthy and well connected the siblings gets off scot-free no matter what the crime.
For example let me remind you of the football player that murdered two people and was found not guilty Everyone knows he was guilt but the prosecution screw up and left reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury
The same situation happened in this case,except it never got to a trial.
Money talks and bs walks.

Posted by: Johnathan | April 13, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

You are dripping with hatred for the “Dukies” and it shows in your words, It just eats you up to see somebody who doesn’t fit your template of a victim declared innocent.
I’ll decide for myself who needs my sympathy in this matter. And pardon me if I hope at some point in your reporting you might have opened yourself up to a malice lawsuit.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Don’t feel too sorry for Jon Corzine. True, he was the victim of a hit and run car accident, on a ventilator, with a broken thighbones, broken ribs. Probably has some non-negligible risk of dying. But, hey, he’s a millionaire.
What? A multimillionaire, you say?
Man, than that’s practically a joke!
… Almost half a billion???
Ahhhahahahahaaaaaa!

Posted by: matomato | April 13, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Wow, never underestimate the liberals in the media to spin. Heck, these guys are guilty of being “rich white men”. Ridiculous

Posted by: gary | April 13, 2007, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

I seem to remember MR. Nifong holding a townhall with press, giving interviews, and holding press conferences basically stating he knew for sure that these boys were innocent. Maybe if he had of kept his mouth shut, the press would not have kept this story alive for so long and the dropping of charges would not have been such a big deal. I don’t feel sorry for them, but the DA sure made it easy to feel sorry for them, all so he could be re-elected. Is that voter fraud?

Posted by: ams | April 13, 2007, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

WOW McFly. Don’t feel sorry for the Duke men accused of rape because black men have been sent to prison for rapes they disn’t commit? That’s wonderful logic. Let’s see, let’s just randomly pick someone to punish for a drug deal they didn’t do because some black guys have been locked up for the same offense but they were innocent. Just who is the racist here?

Posted by: R. Newberry | April 13, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

The moral vacuity of Moran’s posting aside, the obvious biases in this rant show a basic lack of the objectivity necessary to be a good journalist.
Yes, Terry, there are many, many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct that have not gotten the coverage the Duke players have since they were pronounced INNOCENT. Those other victims also weren’t called rapists for literally thousands of hours on every “news” program in America for more than a year.
I know fairness is alien to newsrooms, but retractions should be proportionate to the volume dedicated to the false charge. You and your colleagues have made it standard operating proceedure to destroy innocent men on page one, then run the correction next to the crossword puzzle.

Posted by: Kimberly P. | April 13, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Thanks Terry – I knew my mom and dad were always full of it when they said “two wrongs don’t make a right”. We really need to falsly accuse more white males then prosecute them in the media with no critical analysis of the accuser- that will make all past injustices right. You are a genius!

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

In case you have forgotten, this is a blog – a forum for his personal opinion. Just because you do not agree with what Terry has to say, does not mean you should respond like a 8 year old with the name calling.
It’s absolutely astonishing to me how many people are not able to have healthy and intelligent debate anymore.
Terry’s post was both well written and well thought out. You have the right to disagree. Just be respectful of others opinions.

Posted by: Becky | April 13, 2007, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Perhaps the lack of sympathy for these young men is based on the fact that you and like-minded people (80 Duke Professors) think that white privileged athletes deserve such injustice because they symbolize all that you hate within this country. A power structure that is based on a Judeo/Christian belief system that has shaped this country throughout our history. Keep in mind that this power structure has raised the standard of living of more people than any other power structure did in human history. It has also freed more people from tyranny than any other power structure has. Your low-minded thought process on this issue comes from your left elite bias that believes that if you are white and rich you must be bad and if you are poor and a minority you must be good. Your arguments against these young men are unsound and weak because your form of justice is based on your political views and not what is right and wrong and or justices or injustices.
Yes, the accused did have families that could get them better representation (thank god) than others may be able to afford however that does not take away from the fact that they were falsely accused because they are white rich athletes. That is racism. Young men all over this country get strippers and just because they may have asked for one white stripper does not make them evil young men who got what they deserved. You could also derive from the same facts that they are quite open because they also were fine with an ethnic stripper as well. If they used racial slurs than they behaved poorly but that does not justify nor condone prosecutorial misconduct, charges of rape and kidnapping, and dragged in the mud for over a year. There is no moral equivalence and to suggest otherwise in intellectually dishonest. Nifong accused these young men of rape and kidnapping to pander to the black community emotional response to the allegations. He chose political expedience over justice. In fact, this case has shed some light on how people can be falsely accused in a rush to judgment based on emotions and not facts. In the long run this will help poorer communities that you argue that we should truly have our sympathies for. Justice is color blind and based on right and wrong and not how much money you have or how little money you have. If justice is on the side of the rich white person than so be it. If justice is on the side of the poor minority person than so be it. Do you suggest that only certain people in our society should have justice?

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Man do I ever feel sorry for ABC. YOU are one of their brighter lights? YOU are one of their hopes for the future? With your brilliant insight and quick uptake leading the way, ABC is surely destined for oblivion. Good riddance. I’ll take the net anyday to get the untainted truth. The only reason I’m here is because Drudge linked your article; most likely so the world will know what an idiot and fool you are.

Posted by: Non ABC Viewer | April 13, 2007, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

The denigration of black or white women by Imus or anyone else has got to stop. When I went to Catholic Jesuit college in the 60’s, had any of our athletic teams hired a stripper, black, white or otherwise, to entertain them at a team party, make no mistake about it; the Jebbies would have expelled their asses so quickly, they’d have been off campus in two hours.
The denigration of women by women themselves in the college Spring Break playgrounds of this country, while their counterparts die on battlefields on the other side of the world has got to stop because in plain English: We are reverting to paganism.
If I were paying $32,000 a year today to send my son to college and he was partying with guys who invited a stripper to entertain themselves, black, white or otherwise, I would be furious. My hard earned money being spent on that? I assure you nobody at that party was paying his own way through life. Never mind the rape charges. Is this sportsmanship? Is anyone surprised that our athletes are brawling on the basketball courts, raping women, murdering their wives, shooting themselves up with dope or contracting AIDS?
Yes the Duke boys are “innocent” until proven guilty but make no mistake about it. The charges were dropped because the prosecution could not prove their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. If they went through a year of hell, they had it coming to them. They had no business engaging in the sport of denigrating women in the first place, let alone doing whatever else they did that night. No stripper worth her act is gonna cry Rape! once she performs and gets her money. Something happened that night. Don’t tell me about DNA. If you sodomize a woman with an object, there’s no DNA. If you… well I won’t go any further, I’ll just leave the rest of the “if’s” to your imagination. There are many ways a man can sexually bully a woman, and leave no DNA.
Furthermore, the only witness and also the accuser is a woman who was either rendered mentally unstable by her experience that night or who was just a very mentally troubled person all along. Did you ever see a mentally retarded woman who’s testimony could stand up in court? Somebody like that doesn’t have a ghost of a chance against the team of high powered lawyers that the well heeled people at Duke lined up to protect their boys. Trouble is with all the media fawning they’re getting now, neither they nor anyone else has learned anything from the experience.

Posted by: Beatriz | April 13, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Mr. Moran, are you really equating name calling of those Rutgers women with falsely accusing three men with felonies????
Did those Rutger women need to spend millions to defend themselves? And how exactly are these Rutger women suffering from being called names by an idiot?
Get a clue Mr. Moran!!!!!

Posted by: Nestor | April 13, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Clearly the media doesn’t think that it’s done enough to these guys. Gotta get one last smear in, huh?

Posted by: medialol | April 13, 2007, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Terry Moran, you have to be the most repulsive excuse for a journalist I have ever seen. I can only believe your career is so far in the dumpster that you’re reaching for the ultimate insult to garner some attention for yourself.

Posted by: Shawn Crisp | April 13, 2007, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Everyone who has agreed with this guy have one thing in common…jealousy. What does it matter that these boys came from wealthy families? What does it matter that they had been acting like immature idiots in the past? No one deserves to be accused of rape when they didn’t do it! Just a thought, the district attorney was in a lose lose situation. If he would not have brought these charges, the black community would have been calling for his head!

Posted by: jeremy | April 13, 2007, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Perhaps the lack of sympathy for these young men is based on the fact that you and like-minded people (80 Duke Professors) think that white privileged athletes deserve such injustice because they symbolize all that you hate within this country. A power structure that is based on a Judeo/Christian belief system that has shaped this country throughout our history. Keep in mind that this power structure has raised the standard of living of more people than any other power structure did in human history. It has also freed more people from tyranny than any other power structure has. Your low-minded thought process on this issue comes from your left elite bias that believes that if you are white and rich you must be bad and if you are poor and a minority you must be good. Your arguments against these young men are unsound and weak because your form of justice is based on your political views and not what is right and wrong and or justices or injustices.
Yes, the accused did have families that could get them better representation (thank god) than others may be able to afford however that does not take away from the fact that they were falsely accused because they are white rich athletes. That is racism. Young men all over this country get strippers and just because they may have asked for one white stripper does not make them evil young men who got what they deserved. You could also derive from the same facts that they are quite open because they also were fine with an ethnic stripper as well. If they used racial slurs than they behaved poorly but that does not justify nor condone prosecutorial misconduct, charges of rape and kidnapping, and dragged in the mud for over a year. There is no moral equivalence and to suggest otherwise in intellectually dishonest. Nifong accused these young men of rape and kidnapping to pander to the black community emotional response to the allegations. He chose political expedience over justice. In fact, this case has shed some light on how people can be falsely accused in a rush to judgment based on emotions and not facts. In the long run this will help poorer communities that you argue that we should truly have our sympathies for. Justice is color blind and based on right and wrong and not how much money you have or how little money you have. If justice is on the side of the rich white person than so be it. If justice is on the side of the poor minority person than so be it. Do you suggest that only certain people in our society should have justice?

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Terry:
You say that there are “many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year,” and and also that “most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both.” the only thing is, if the media covers very few as you contend, then how would you even know this is true?
I would love to know where you got those statistics.
And let’s remember that the three Duke Lacrosse players were the victims in every sense of the word. They were the victims of false accusations leveled against them, victims of a politically motivated DA, victims of the media, which turned them into national figures based on the assumption they were guilty as charged, and victims of their own professors who also assumed guilt.
And finally, calling these students “Dukies” is just silly. You sound almost disappointed these three were innocent. I could be wrong, but that is the impression I get.
But then, I’ll do for you what you don’t seem to be willing to do for the Duke students, give you the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: David Flanagan | April 13, 2007, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

I’m a poor man anda former Job Corps kid that doesn’t stop me from having sympathy for some kids that were made into villains and looking at a lifetime in prison because they were white and rich.
MY LOW education and economic status does not keep me from being angry at the guilty until proven innocent treatment they received from their college, state and peers over in the feminist/race bait camp.

Posted by: dave | April 13, 2007, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Mr. Moran,
I assume that you are writing this to raise your profile. Certainly no serious journalist would print such drivel. To conflate hiring strippers with gang rape and to exaggerate the hurling of racial epithets (the other dancer admitted to initiating the language which was returned by a few men. Besides, Reade Seligman, one of the men charged wasn’t even there at the time).
Funny how the week the worst case of prosecutorial abuse since the McMartin case ends you have the cushion of the Rutgers manufactured scandal to fall back on your quaint world view.
Shame on ABC.

Posted by: playscape | April 13, 2007, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

If it would have been a white stripper, nobody would have cared. This is all racial motivated.

Posted by: ynot | April 13, 2007, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Terry, please. Maybe your disdain for the Lacrosse players is misplaced. Even after reading your piece, I still don’t understand your position. Don’t feel sorry for them because they acted somewhat foolishly, and their parents have money? Maybe you should be angry at Nifong. And tell me this Terry, why not use your position to cover more instances of prosecutorial conduct?

Posted by: John A. | April 13, 2007, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Gee…you must not have any children. I have a twenty year old son and having been twenty years old several decades ago I know that we all do things that we probably shouldn’thave. But as a mother, I wanted to throw up at the thought of what these mothers felt as they feared their sons would spend 30 years in prison. Sometimes even the best lawyers fail. These young men are not the only ones who lived thru this nightmare.
Again, you must not have any children and if you do… I feel sorry for them for having such a
cold and unfeeling father.

Posted by: Betsy | April 13, 2007, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

So the point of this opinion piece is what exactly? That ‘people of means’ had it coming? Thank you Mr. Moran for your deep understanding of fairness.

Posted by: Kaf-n | April 13, 2007, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Taken down AGAIN!
Proves everyone’s point about left tilting media.
“So as we rightly cover the vindication of these young men and focus on the genuine ordeal they have endured, let us also remember a few other things:”
Bill Clinto was part of a team that used tax-payer money and resources to manipulate and distort the truth.
That team specifically abused white women.
During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the accusers. So were cigars.
Bill Clinton was charged and found GUILTY of lying to a grand jury and in contempt of court for his “willful failure” to obey repeated orders to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit.
The old pervert was able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.
If you want to find bias, Google “Bill Clinton found guilty”.

Posted by: Gary Burnett | April 13, 2007, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

It’s funny how the majority of the people who are agreeing with Mr. Morons article are women.
Those horrible, horrible white guys who had the audacity to hire a stripper, and uuuhhhhh…… drink while underage. All of that makes it ok that they were almost railroaded for RAPE. You hear me? RAPE!!!!
Before you dare to agree with Mr. Moran and his ludicris article imagine your father, brother, son, cousin in the dukies situation. How dare you wish this on ANYONE because of their race or monetary status. You people really need to look deep into your hateful heart. Where is YOUR sense of justice.

Posted by: DAN | April 13, 2007, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Only a bleeding-heart elitist (read: out of touch with reality!) could post such nonsense. Please save the sanctimony for your NYC cocktail parties.

Posted by: Alejandro | April 13, 2007, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Your comments are scary. Remember this when any of your family members are in college and somewhat beyond your control.

Posted by: C. Arangini | April 13, 2007, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Moran you’re a moron.

Posted by: DSM | April 13, 2007, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Let’s see. You state these 3 young men deserve no sympathy because, among other reasons, racial epithets were used at the party. However, there is NO evidence they are the ones that made such statements. Terry, were you on Mr Nifong’s staff? Sounds like you’re doing exactly what he did; convicting them without any evidence. Sleep tight Ed Murrow, journalism is alive and well in America…NOT.

Posted by: Rick | April 13, 2007, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

There are not enough four letter words in the english language to describe Terry Moran, but one of the first words would have to be ‘hack’.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Wow, your blatant liberalism is painfully clear. The fact that these three “white young men of privilege” were the targets of an over zealous district attorney is irrelevant. I can only bet that had this happened to some poor black men, you and your liberal hacks would be the first to pile on and demand blood for this “heinous act”
Justice is and should be blind. I just wish the main stream news media was likewise.
Unlike the Rutgers players, who believe that victimhood triumphs over achievement, hard work, sacrifice and grace, these three lacrosse players showed true self confidence, pride and courage. I only hope they sue Mike Nifong and the country out of existence financially.

Posted by: Must be kidding me | April 13, 2007, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

I am sure I am not the first to call you Terry MorOn, and after this article I know I won’t be the last.
The “state” as infinite resources and funds at it’s disposal to prosecute. And in using those resources, they put three INNOCENT kids thru a personal hell they will never forget. They have suffered loss of team sports, loss of their ability to attend (and graduate) their college, loss of at least one good job, and all for being falsely accused.
And you, MorOn, think that is okay? You think the last year of their lives was some sort of picnic?
You are a sad sack Mr. MorOn, and to hold the view you have, a MORON for sure…

Posted by: d | April 13, 2007, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Dear Moran the moron:
why don’t you call Sharpton and Jackson – the two professional race baiters – for their racist behavior? ABC has just lost a viewer

Posted by: alex slabo | April 13, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Hope they fire the Duke 88…they are the true criminals in this case, subverting the constitutional rights of MEN.

Posted by: howard hofelich | April 13, 2007, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

judging by the comments on this story, you may want to find a place to hide, a new job, a new identity and re-think what you believe america is all about.
I am not sure what you thought that you were going to accomplish by writing something as off the wall as this, but you have really hurt your credibility with your audience. consider yourself “insulated” from the real world. I agree with many of the others making comments regarding this story, you make this country more divided and unfocused on what is important by writing this kind of crap.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Let’s face it, the reason the media gave this case so much attention was not because these young men were from privaledged backgrounds, but because it fit the media template that we are a country full of racist, sexist, elitists. The reason other cases do not get media attention is because they do not fit with the editor’s agenda.

Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2007, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

judging by the comments on this story, you may want to find a place to hide, a new job, a new identity and re-think what you believe america is all about.
I am not sure what you thought that you were going to accomplish by writing something as off the wall as this, but you have really hurt your credibility with your audience. consider yourself “insulated” from the real world. I agree with many of the others making comments regarding this story, you make this country more divided and unfocused on what is important by writing this kind of crap.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Are you out of your mind?! Don’t feel too sorry for someone who manages to clear their name after being falsely accused? Is it their duty to take undeserved punishment simply because someone else sometime past you can’t name might have? Grow up. Were they fortunate enough to have the resources to clear their names? Absolutely. Are they therefore less worthy of exoneration because they could? This is nothing more than white guilt run amok.

Posted by: mark | April 13, 2007, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Why has everyone forgot about the lying stripper who caused all of this to begin with? If she had not lied in the beginning trying to get rich off of ruining the lives of these guys and their families none of this would have happened. Why has everyone forgotten the real story? She tried to have these guys imprisoned for rape, and ruin the lives and reputations of 3 innocent guys and their families. All so that she could then sue for money in civil court. She is the worst kind of caniving human garbage out there, and should be arrested, charged with every crime she committed and prosecuted to MAXIMUM extent allowable by our laws. But she is getting off scott free, setting a wonderfull example for potential copycats who might be more successful. The fact that they have not put her under the jail is the real tragedy here.

Posted by: WB | April 13, 2007, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Mr Moran – your lack of sympathy for these kids just because they are middle-class is mind-boggling. I expect that you as a journalist will strive in the future to investigate and shed sunlight on the unreported cases of injustice so that they may be rectified.

Posted by: SDC63 | April 13, 2007, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

You are a moron. There is no explaining your twisted logic. You deserve to follow Don Imus to the unemployment line.

Posted by: Steve | April 13, 2007, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Terry should know that the three lacrosse players were falsely accused by a BLACK stripper. Where is the outrage there? FoxNews had the guts to show the picture of the girl and label her a liar. I don’t watch ABC News, for a host of reasons, and I doubt that ABC would have the guts to run it.

Posted by: Joe Melosi | April 13, 2007, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Why has everyone forgot about the lying stripper who caused all of this to begin with? If she had not lied in the beginning trying to get rich off of ruining the lives of these guys and their families none of this would have happened. Why has everyone forgotten the real story? She tried to have these guys imprisoned for rape, and ruin the lives and reputations of 3 innocent guys and their families. All so that she could then sue for money in civil court. She is the worst kind of caniving human garbage out there, and should be arrested, charged with every crime she committed and prosecuted to MAXIMUM extent allowable by our laws. But she is getting off scott free, setting a wonderfull example for potential copycats who might be more successful. The fact that they have not put her under the jail is the real tragedy here.

Posted by: Billy | April 13, 2007, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Is your name Moran, it should be moron. you should donate all your money earned for your ABC job to all the poor people who cannot defend themselves. I would be one of them, but I still am all for them being found innocent , and for them getting all their legal fees paid for, and more. Maybe you can pay for them you fool.

Posted by: Steve Michaels | April 13, 2007, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

I’m sorry, maybe I missed something:
Is it wrong to hire strippers?
Is it wrong to request that the strippers you hire be sexually attractive to you?
The only thing you can really say about these guys is that they were a little bit rude to some strippers.
Wow. Big surprise!
They should sue the “accuser” and attach her wages. That way, every time she takes off her clothes, she’ll be doing it for them!

Posted by: Kyle Varner | April 13, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Have you been to college? These guys hired a stripper! They are college boys. Stop whinning about race and get to the facts. These boys commited no crime and a STRIPPER made up this terrible story and people like Terry Moran made it worse. Stick to the facts and stop whinning about race!

Posted by: uck | April 13, 2007, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Mr. Moran,
Your comments and premise is about the same as Mr. Imus who is famous now for being a racist. I’m a black male in america and what I want to know is we all have freedom of speech. America lives in a double standard. It’s ok for Mr. Imus to say Nappy ###### ##’#, but no one thinks of saying anything to this woman who sits on a thrown of lies waiting to engulf and disband 3 young men’s reputations. We should have a prison for slander and do away with the First Amendment.
Is America that backwards?

Posted by: Jamie | April 13, 2007, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Have you been to college? These guys hired a stripper! They are college boys. Stop whinning about race and get to the facts. These boys commited no crime and a STRIPPER made up this terrible story and people like Terry Moran made it worse. Stick to the facts and stop whinning about race!

Posted by: uck | April 13, 2007, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

WOW !
Looks like one more piece of the “Network Glass House” got fractured tonight. It’s kinda neat to watch it collapse under the weight of it’s own mouth.
Keep it up ABC

Posted by: Dick | April 13, 2007, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

So let me get this straight. According to this clearly racist article:
I am a racist if I am sexually attracted to a female of one ethnic group more than a female of another ethnic group. This kind of utter nonsense in journalism is why network news is in the toilet. Good riddance. *flush*

Posted by: Durr What? | April 13, 2007, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Terry Moran. Shame shame shame. This article seems more like a report I would find in The Onion. Had these young men not come from wealth, they would probably unjustly be in jail. I don’t think I can possibly relay my disgust for your comments. I hope you get fired.

Posted by: Becky Fuller | April 13, 2007, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Terry,
I’m a bit surprised that you would sit in the judgement seat against these Duke players. You’ve judged them based on their skin color, their money, and their families. Most of us would define that as bigotry. While I don’t agree with their behavior, your point of view is skewed based on factors other than the facts of the case.
Imagine whether you were wrongly accused of plagiarizing a story, were fired from your job, lost your family, were wrongly sued by another journalist — just because you were a successful white male and the accuser was an up and coming African-American female who thought it was unfair that you had your position. Would it feel very good for you? Would you want our sympathy? Or would you want us to say “he deserves it — he’s white”.
Judge not, lest thou be judged.

Posted by: David Lamb | April 13, 2007, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

So let me get this straight. According to this clearly racist article:
I am a racist if I am sexually attracted to a female of one ethnic group more than a female of another ethnic group. This kind of utter nonsense in journalism is why network news is in the toilet. Good riddance. *flush*

Posted by: Durr What? | April 13, 2007, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

“They got special treatment in the justice system–both negative and positive.”
Shouldn’t that read “both unjust and just”? Or does it all boil down advantage and disadvantage and race/class/gender analysis to you?
Congratulations, Mr. Moran. Just print this post and bring it with you to court whenever you receive a jury summons, and you’re sure to be excused for the rest of your life.
In fact, please do so, for the sake of the accused whose trials you might otherwise be allowed to judge.

Posted by: Telford Work | April 13, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Hey Terry,
You look like a rich white guy to me. Where did you go to college? You probably have rich white parents who helped you out.
Here’s my question: So… lets say that you go to a party where something morally questionable happens. And then you are wrongly accused of RAPE while attending that party. I guess because you are a rich white guy, you shouldn’t defend yourself – using everything at your disposal. Nah, that doesn’t make any sense… you moron. Let me clue you into something… Being rich is not a crime. Attending a party where a stripper performs in front of consenting adults is not a crime. Being white is not a crime. Wrongly accusing somebody of rape is a crime. Wrongly using your power as a DA to get yourself re-elected is a crime.
You are vastly confused about the ideas of right and wrong… and honestly shouldn’t have the pulpit of the media that you have. But hey… you are a rich white guy who has a lot of influence… so I guess we should believe the dribble you are peddling.

Posted by: DH | April 13, 2007, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Terry,What do the 5 points in your article have to do about whether the Duke players raped and kid- napped a woman?I’ll keep that in mind next time I see one of your hard-hitting pieces of objective journalism. Bagman

Posted by: bags | April 13, 2007, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Let me see if I understand your logic. First, because these young men have acted foolish in the past, they deserved the false allegations and subsequent prejudged pummeling. Kind of the “they needed killing” defense, don’t you think. Then, because they were from families of means and had earned their way into a well respected school, we should feel less compassion for them for the wrongs that they suffered. Let me put this in terms that you may relate to: By this logic we should not feel too bad for Kimberly Dozier or Bob Woodruff. After all, to paraphrase you, as media representatives from national networks or other elite institutions, these reporters will get on with their privileged lives. There is a very large cushion under them–the one that softens the blows of life for most of those who go to Iraq or similar places, and have connections through family, friends and school to all kinds of prospects for success. They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young privates painfully recovering in Walter Reed. Do you really believe this? Could you look Dozier or Woodruff in the eye and tell them this? What about these young men, could you look them in the eye and restate your argument. If you say no to the first and yes to the second question, then perhaps you should reevaluate your objectivity.

Posted by: FWL | April 13, 2007, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Mr. Nifong and Ms. Morgan cried, “Wolf” but they were wrong. Now a black man in Durham has raped a white woman this week. Where’s the outrage? Durham is run by a bunch of racists.

Posted by: James Stoertz | April 13, 2007, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

What is your point about them requesting white strippers? Does that somehow make them racist? I am a white man, call me a racist, but I am attracted to white women. I am not attracted to white males, so am I now a homophobe too? Where is your logic?

Posted by: codey | April 13, 2007, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Maybe you should ask the three students just how they managed to live the American dream and have it slammed by a power seeking democrat in an election year..Go crawl back into the hole that came from

Posted by: Barry Marshall | April 13, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Notice how Moran specifically names the three falsely accused Lacrosse players, stating they receive special privileges. But also notice that he doesn’t name the accuser and suggests she’s perhaps a troubled fantasist.
Plus all areas where he must report vindication of the players, he always qualifies the statement by writing “according to the Attorney General.”
This is the worst form of yellow journalism imaginable.

Posted by: captainrich | April 13, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

This is a thinly masked, poorly written, bit of obvious racist rambling. It appears that, not too deep down, the author is disappointed that the players were not found guilty for being white and rich. Who is the author of this tripe. It is opinions such as this that have allowed the extortionis Al Sharpton to keep replaying his Tawana Brawley fraud in it’s myriad incarnations.

Posted by: bernard ross | April 13, 2007, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Reverend Moran,
You are so right, my friend. These upper middle class white boys are crying about nothing. As you say, getting railroaded by a rogue prosecutor happens all the time — with none of this outrage. But getting nailed to the proverbial cross by three words from an irrelevant, over-the-hill “shock jock” (at 6:17 am no less) now that’s injustice. Doesn’t matter that no individual was called out. Doesn’t matter that the team accepted his so-called apology. Doesn’t matter that the “villain” lost his job. What matters is that there’s no such thing as injustice when you grow up in Bethesda, MD and attend Duke (everybody knows that if you grow up in Bethesda and your Daddy is a big-shot lawyer, you’re going to get in to Duke — the 17% acceptance rate must be for everyone else, you know, the non-upper middle class kids) and nothing but injustice if you’re forced to attend Rutgers on a basketball scholarship (everybody knows that’s a safety school).
That’s right everyone, including Mr. Imus knows that. It’s as clear as black and white.
Your comrade in arms,
Reverend Bizarro

Posted by: Joe | April 13, 2007, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Perhaps even more disturbing than the whole debacle of a case is that this article can be written and published afterwards. Our comments are either meaningless to Moran, or in his twisted logic, proves his position. The boldness of the Left now is sickening, frightening. John Kennedy move over, Joe Stalin’s back in town.

Posted by: andy | April 13, 2007, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

If journalists KNOW that rogue prosecutors are doing people in, could it be that they should be digging in and doing investigative journalism, and doing their part, so that it doesn’t happen TO ANYONE!. At least make the effort and show some adherence to what is right, as a matter of principle. It is rather pathetic for a journalist to claim that because injustice happens to those that don’t have the resources, on a regular basis, those with the resources to fight this rubbish are no big deal. The internet will see the end of this kind of traditional media who, until now, have had the ability to spew this kind of nonsense and get away with it.

Posted by: wayne | April 13, 2007, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Terry Moran you should be taking an early retirement just as Imus has done. The difference is what he said isn’t politically correct, but it’s fine in your mind to make these comments just because they’re white. If the players had been black and the accuser white and you made these comments you’d be fired in a New York minute.

Posted by: Mike Johnson | April 13, 2007, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Perhaps even more disturbing than the whole debacle of a case is that this article can be written and published afterwards. Our comments are either meaningless to Moran, or in his twisted logic, proves his position. The boldness of the Left now is sickening, frightening. John Kennedy move over, Joe Stalin’s back in town.

Posted by: andy | April 13, 2007, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

What a sick story and opinion. This reporter has compassion for no one. Three young men have their lives destroyed by false allegations of rape, etc. and a bogus prosecution that forever puts their names on the internet as defendants in a rape and kidnapping case – and this sicko reporter apparently thinks they deserved such treatment because they engaged in crude talk, bad manners, and they are privileged. Well next time this reporter curses, maybe he should be charged with rape, subjected to a dishonest prosecution, and have his photo and name plastered all over the net as a criminal and see if he thinks he deserves it. What a warped mind. Where do these nuts come from?

Posted by: MB | April 13, 2007, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

OK,..How much did Al and Jesse pay you for this stupid story. Or maybe the deal was they would come on NightLine.

Posted by: J. Maruscak | April 13, 2007, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

It’s depressing to read the comments of a journalist who should be smarter, wiser… and moral. These comments are so foolish. We don’t administer justice depending on whether somebody is rich or poor, or whether they can “recover” from injustice committed by a reckless, idiotic government prosecutor. That justice system belongs in the USSR. Not the USA. Let’s hope journalists at ABC distance themselves from your remarks.

Posted by: Doug Kresse | April 14, 2007, 12:00 am 12:00 am

I would be willing to bet that if a reporter (or opinioning columnist) for ABC.com wrote a story implying that members of an African American fraternity who hired a white stripper “weren’t innocent victims” (e.g. got what they deserved) after she falsely accused them of rape and they suffered for a year at the hands of a “rogue” prosecutor he would be fired quicker than Don Imus. This post is as repulisive and racist as Imus’ comments.

Posted by: QTP | April 14, 2007, 12:00 am 12:00 am

I can’t… well I can believe you can write this junk. This is what our kids are learning in school from people who want to blame anything they can on a white person in America. Go to any campus in America where athletes reside, and this stuff is happening. I guess the NFL is the only one noticing. The point isn’t about them getting screwed by Nifong, something that unfortunately happens to others, it’s about the media frenzy jumping to conclusions and making them guilty. The liberals, who ALWAYS shout innocent until proven guilty, couldn’t wait to put the noose around three WHITE necks, and that is the issue. They were fortunate to have the ability to hire lawyers to get them out of the media/Jackson/Sharpton noose that was already hanging. The MEDIA should be ashamed, but of course they aren’t, they have no morals anymore. Promoting bias towards anyone who doesn’t fit their mold, and aiding hate towards America is about all they are good for.

Posted by: jb | April 14, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

my first thought was a string of expletives. Are you crazy. Liberal journalism run amock. Don’t feel sorry for innocent young men whose families spent millions, had life sentences hanging over their heads, had wanted posters posted on campus? No wonder the main stream medida is losing its audience. Aren’t there any bright people coming out of journalism schools these days?

Posted by: jc | April 14, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

I think your dribble is as idiotic as DA Nifong pursuing the case in the first place. Call it what it is, an overzealous DA who was down in the polls and took this case too far.

Posted by: Gregory | April 14, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

my first thought was a string of expletives. Are you crazy. Liberal journalism run amock. Don’t feel sorry for innocent young men whose families spent millions, had life sentences hanging over their heads, had wanted posters posted on campus? No wonder the main stream media is losing its audience. Aren’t there any bright people coming out of journalism schools these days?

Posted by: jc | April 14, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

In reading this article, it is quite evident that Terry Moran has a deep seated hate in his heart. How sad.

Posted by: Melvin Johnson | April 14, 2007, 12:04 am 12:04 am

If Moron Moran isnt fired after these comments then Imus should be reinstated and given an Emmy award. Typical network liberal bias. Moran’s vile comments are free-speech and Imus’ comments are “hate” speech.

Posted by: Lars | April 14, 2007, 12:04 am 12:04 am

I love white guys who have problems with white guys – who didn’t do anything criminally wrong – but were set up to take a fall by a black woman looking for a fast cash score and a District Atty who saw an opportunity to lock in a black voting block by lying about the ultimate outcome of the case as proven by DNA evidence. The reporter doesn’t get what about that – what a self serving f – -k.

Posted by: cobratms | April 14, 2007, 12:05 am 12:05 am

comparing the duke lacrose team to the rutgers women’s basketball team is moronic. at least the rutger’s team had more finacial resources as a whole as a university because they backed them, whereas duke university abondonded it’s lacrose players and the players had to pay for their own legal bills. the rutgers players had their feelings hurt ( boo hoo, big frek’n deal) the duke players faced 30 years in jail for something they didn’t do. poorly writen article. you would think after the aftermath that imus used the “N” word. this county has lost it’s sense of humor.

Posted by: clay shaw | April 14, 2007, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Well, lucky for you she did not accuse you of anything. As one of the men said they were lucky they had the resources—but you seem to think it was more then luck. I think had they been black and you wrote this article about them being lucky you would be unemployed like Imus

Posted by: larry green | April 14, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am

your opinion piece is a reminder of why I stopped watching television many years ago and stopped reading any of the large cookie cutter dinosaurs or newspapers.
I can’t see paying in dime or time for anti white, antimale, pro communist crap.

Posted by: BILL | April 14, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Could this column be another attempt by ABC to sensationalize the story in the name of viewership, and in doing so, revictimize these kids? This commentary is staggering and it smacks of class envy, but Moran must live a very comfortable lfe. It’s likely that these kids and their families have very little interest in pity from others, and are even less interested in opinions about the appropriate level of pity they should be granted.

Posted by: B Patterson | April 14, 2007, 12:11 am 12:11 am

So by your logic, Mr. Moran, since you make pretty good money, when your kids get to college, it’s OK if one of us of a less priviledged background wants to run your son into the ground and accuse him of a vicious crime to which his name will forever be attached, even if he is cleared, your advice will be the same – “Suck it up. We are wealthy. And it’ll only take a year of your life to clear up this nightmare, even though your name will always be associated with be a rapist.”
Give me a break!

Posted by: Braigle | April 14, 2007, 12:11 am 12:11 am

So by your logic, Mr. Moran, since you make pretty good money, when your kids get to college, it’s OK if one of us of a less priviledged background wants to run your son into the ground and accuse him of a vicious crime to which his name will forever be attached, even if he is cleared, your advice will be the same – “Suck it up. We are wealthy. And it’ll only take a year of your life to clear up this nightmare, even though your name will always be associated with being a rapist.”
Give me a break!

Posted by: Braigle | April 14, 2007, 12:12 am 12:12 am

I have seen better conclusions dervied and analogies provided by a C average 5th grade student. This is perhaps one of the most racist and biased articles written by a modern day “main stream” journalist. While there are multiple inaccurate parallels and conclusions that I could attack, I will only leave you with one: how can you decry the appropriateness of justice, regardless of the socio-economic background of the accused or the accuser?

Posted by: Erasmus | April 14, 2007, 12:15 am 12:15 am

when will the racist thugs jackson and sharpton apologize to the duke lacross players. the only reason they backed ms. mangum is because she is black and her accusers were well to do white boys. jackson and sharpton are racist, the evidence is apparent, and only a moron can dispute it. they are black and they took a white man down.

Posted by: clay shaw | April 14, 2007, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Of course the media does not cover all the cases of DA misconduct – they are too busy fulfilling filling news reports lynching rich white males accused of raping black females because it fits thier liberal idea of that all the worlds problems are caused by rich white males – instead of looking for the truth. Many years ago in the South, if a white woman accused the black male of rape, the white Klan robes came out and he was lynched. ABC News (along with the other news media) should be wearing white Klan robes. If a white man is accused of raping a black female, ABC News spends all its time trying to lynch the white males. At least be honest enough the next time to put on your white robe and pointed hat when you form a lynch mob.

Posted by: Mike | April 14, 2007, 12:16 am 12:16 am

I think we should all write the sponsors of ABC News and demand that either Terry gets fired or we stop buying their products.

Posted by: Rob Lister | April 14, 2007, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Wow. If anyone wonders why less and less people get their information from the main stream media, this is a shining example why.
The more I read the more I could not believe someone would actually believe all of this. I guess someone at ABC does. Wow. Quite enlightening.

Posted by: Jamie | April 14, 2007, 12:18 am 12:18 am

“They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
Are you insuating that because the women of the Rutger’s basketball team are mostly African American they cannot afford good representation? You should be fired just like Imus for making such a statement.
The only reason the “Dukies” are getting so much attention in their exoneration is because the media brought so much attention to them when they were accused.
These young men were convicted in the court of public opinion based on their race, sex, class, and membership in a fraternity.
Now you’re taking it a step further and saying that it is ok to victimize them because of who they are. Shame on you.

Posted by: Mark | April 14, 2007, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Terry,
I feel bad about how the Dukies were treated by morons like you. They were innocent, what’s so wrong about that?

Posted by: Daniel | April 14, 2007, 12:19 am 12:19 am

I actually had to read this again to be sure I didn’t miss something. I searched the internet trying to find what the punishment in North Carolina is for “conduct..not entirely admirable,” but I couldn’t find where it is even a punishable offense. That’s weird because I am pretty sure you, Mr. Moran, are accusing them of this as though it is some horrible crime. I am sure that you have never done anything that could qualify as “conduct..not entirely admirable.” Mr. Moran, if we asked your friends, family, co-workers etc. about your entire life (especially your college years), could they remember a time when you were involved in “conduct..not entirely admirable?” I bet they could. I know I have, and probably 90% of the people reading this post. Should we all then be accused of rape…have our names dragged through the mud…families treated horribly…the media treat us as though we are guilty…just because we were involved in “conduct..not entirely admirable,” sometime in our lives?
Sir, your name should be Terry Moron… I can’t even believe that I am wasting time on a Friday night responding to you.
“Let he without sin…….”

Posted by: Phil | April 14, 2007, 12:19 am 12:19 am

I have seen better conclusions dervied and analogies provided by a C average 5th grade student. This is perhaps one of the most racist and biased articles written by a modern day “main stream” journalist. While there are multiple inaccurate parallels and conclusions that I could attack, I will only leave you with one: how can you decry the appropriateness of justice, regardless of the socio-economic background of the accused or the accuser?

Posted by: Erasmus | April 14, 2007, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Wow. If anyone wonders why less and less people get their information from the main stream media, this is a shining example why.
The more I read the more I could not believe someone would actually believe all of this. I guess someone at ABC does. Wow. Quite enlightening.

Posted by: Jamie | April 14, 2007, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Barrington Hills is very white, privileged and rich. While it produces quite successful people, there must be a hypocrite bug in the water. I would be careful playing the money card. It is easy to be self-righteous.

Posted by: L Brown | April 14, 2007, 12:21 am 12:21 am

You, sir, are an ignorant classist.
The first comment sums it up — I hope you are never have to face being falsely accused of rape, what being a privileged journalist and all. I mean there could be those who say we should feel no sympathy for you.

Posted by: Doug | April 14, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am

I can’t believe someone in your position took this position. You’ve lost any credibility you might have had. I hope your editors going forward are very diligent in reviewing your work for bias, vs. fact.
ABC should be ashamed.

Posted by: brndwrks | April 14, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am

You sir are a disgrace to reporters everywhere. Your ignorance is pathetic. BTW our justice system rests on the idea that the LAW is impartial and applies equally to everyone. We all realize it doesn’t but giving a pass to Nifong because he went after innocent young men you “DON’T LIKE”, shows you to be a small minded, fool at best. I hope that some day you are treated in a similar fashion.

Posted by: Bryan | April 14, 2007, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Requesting a white stripper is not racism. I don’t find black women attractive, but I’m not a racist. I work with a black woman who says she does not find white guys attractive.

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 12:26 am 12:26 am

After reading a similar piece of trash at time.com I swore to myself I wouldn’t read another online article by junk journalists like this guy. Too bad I clicked on this link at Drudge – now I am once again both pissed off and saddened with the left in this country. Everything has to be blamed on the rich (dirty capitalists). I guess we can excuse the accuser because she is just a poor black girl that obviously needs the help of others to survive. The left’s traditional answer has been to take money from the rich, give to the poor, and make them dependent on the government to assure more votes and retain political power. Grow up. Wrong is wrong. These guys did nothing wrong. The ideal situation presented itself to the girl in the form of a bunch of rich frat boys and she ran with it. Five years ago it would have been a home run. Fortunately enough of America understands what is happening and spoke up this time, despite what “reporters” like Moran wrote. No wonder ABC isn’t taken seriously anymore.

Posted by: Bob Huffman | April 14, 2007, 12:28 am 12:28 am

some on this board still think all 45 players should haVE been charged and tried and sadly found not guilty

Posted by: bobalu | April 14, 2007, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Amen. These three men are hardly angels. They played with fire and got burned. Perhaps they got burned unfairly and unreasonably – but I wouldn’t want them near my family or working for my company.

Posted by: hurricanewarningdc | April 14, 2007, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Mr. Moran,
Obviously, in your rush to publish your slanted view on this whole situation you missed what these guys said at their press conference. They talked about the fact that they were fortunate to have the resources to fight this slander and they were concerned about the fact that there are innocent people who get railroaded by DA’s like Nifong and can’t fight back. They realized what was at stake here. Do you think they had any control over being born to wealthy parents? It’s like blaming you for having your last name. The real creep here is the rich white guy with the last name Nifong. Why are you holding back on him? He’s rich. He’s white. He’s devious. You devoted one paragraph to him. NEWS FLASH!!!! There is your crook. But no, you have to try to drag 3 INNOCENT people through the mud, one more time. You liberal reporters have such a twisted view of the world that the rest of us who live in the real world just laugh. No wonder the audience for network news is declining …. too bad you’re become irrelevant.
By the way, do you realize that little section you devoted to their questionable activities, you just pretty much described a slow night in Las Vegas? Are you going to continue your moral crusade and go clean up Sin City??
So did you learn your lousy journalistic skills at your private college alma mater Lawrence University? Currently a year of education according to their website is – $37,663 Looks pretty close to the cost of a year at Duke – $46,050 Now about those rich white guys……

Posted by: James | April 14, 2007, 12:30 am 12:30 am

You really don’t have a clue about the real world, do you, Mr. Moran.
You should be as fired as Imus for spouting off about something that you clearly do not have the slightest idea about and using your media outlet for gushing your opinion instead of presenting news in an unbiased fashion.
The Doc.

Posted by: The Doc | April 14, 2007, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Its never right for the innocent to be thrown under the bus. This article is a joke. Your thinking is a joke.

Posted by: Mark | April 14, 2007, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Terry Moran,
You should be fired. This was hate speech, just like Imus’.
People wrongly accused by a over-reaching DA trying to get re-elected, who ignored the evidence and did not provide the defense exculpatory evidence. It was fortunate these kids families had the coin for defense – I wonder how many people who don’t have money are rail-roaded by DAs across the country?
Further, it is legal to hire strippers in most of this country. If you don’t like that moral choice, too bad for you.
Just take a look at the pages and pages of “escort services” available in the D.C. area.
Ralph

Posted by: Ralph | April 14, 2007, 12:46 am 12:46 am

It sure seems to me that real racists are coming out of the woodwork this week. Your article for instance shows that you are racist. You don’t care that 3 fellow citizens were cleared of a crime that from all the evidence appears to have never have occurred but was completed fabricated. You identify these young men with what you hate … white middle class males. Thats why you don’t feel sorry for them. In fact I’ll bet in your heart you wish that they were hurt even more, perhaps even imprisoned inspite of the fact that they were cleared of these charges. Its patently obvious that speaking this way about them is your way of lashing out at a group of people that you hate. I’m glad you don’t sit on a bench in a courtroom somewhere deciding the fate of others. If you did all of us would suffer injustice whether black, white or brown, depending on who you hated at the moment.

Posted by: Average American | April 14, 2007, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Terry, your guilt over being a white male of privilege and relative wealth with access to top lawyers has clouded your judgement. I wonder how you would react if you were falsely accussed by an ABC News intern of sexually harassing her or him?
Why don’t you devote your time to uncovering just 3 or 4 of the “many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct” that you suggest aren’t being covered.
But you won’t. That would be too hard. Instead, you choose to race your equally reckless ABC colleague, Rosie O’Donnell, to the bottom of the septic tank.
Take a deep breath — that stench is you.

Posted by: P T Full | April 14, 2007, 12:49 am 12:49 am

OK — I’m not saying that all of you who are so mad at moran are wrong in this case, but what i am saying is this: as you sit here and slam him for being biased, and how such bias is typical of the liberal media, do you not realize that his leftward bias is one-millionth that of your beloved fair-and-balanced fox news channel journalists? do any of you dare deny that this is so? HA — i didn’t think so.

Posted by: david armstrong | April 14, 2007, 12:50 am 12:50 am

Terry Moran was having an extramarital affair last year with a friend of mine…..funny that he considers college boys spending money on strippers as a moral offense.

Posted by: kelly | April 14, 2007, 12:51 am 12:51 am

I think the blogger here would have been smarter if he had substituted “don’t feel too sorry for them” with “let’s not make them into heroes.” Granted, the Dukies’ conduct wasn’t so nice, but there’s no crime in being a jerk or chauvinist or even harboring racist beliefs. The idea that those guys could have gone to jail for thirty years based on the word of a dubious witness and the work of an unscrupulous prosecutor is disturbing to put it mildly.

Posted by: Nick | April 14, 2007, 12:53 am 12:53 am

This is a rediculous cliam by the reporter. Clearly the women did not get RAPED by these guys and she has ruined there lives by putting this BS claim on them. This could very well have been 3 men from ANY university around the country. Stop trying to make a name for yourself author of this piece of garbage. What this women did, black or white, was wrong and I hope these boys get some big bucks out of this becuase this should never have gone very far in the legal system. THERE WAS NO PROOF!!!!!!

Posted by: Aaron | April 14, 2007, 12:57 am 12:57 am

It’s not so difficult to criticize Terry. What I find interesting is his shameless moral inversion. It’s not that he doesn’t get it. He simply doesn’t care.
Terry hates America. He relishes the blatant hypocrisy he knows we recognize. He loves rubbing it in our faces. It makes him feel good.
He was just lashing out at the ignorminious death of his cause celebre.
Terry felt cheated and took one last shot. He’s a stand up guy.

Posted by: Lipo Davis | April 14, 2007, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Terry,
Any hit you take over your conclusions is going to fly right over your head. In fact, I can’t imagine you’ll even read these comments. Why would you gaze down from your morally superior perch?
Why would you question the motivations of some mob you agree with. You’ve got the rose colored glasses, big shot.

Posted by: Hugh Dietz | April 14, 2007, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Showing your jealousy and ignorance is never good. These boys would have been beaten, raped and possibly murdered in jail. The 400,000 bail was to make sure that happen – Nifong was shocked when they made bail. He wanted these guys to endure the above to “Show Them.” You are a party to injustice.

Posted by: lynp | April 14, 2007, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Showing your jealousy and ignorance is never good. These boys would have been beaten, raped and possibly murdered in jail. The 400,000 bail was to make sure that happen – Nifong was shocked when they made bail. He wanted these guys to endure the above to “Show Them.” You are a party to injustice.

Posted by: lynp | April 14, 2007, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Virginia D – typical liberal, trying to change the subject when you know you’re wrong. What does FOX have to do with anything? You and Terry Moron should get together, just please don’t have kids. The world can’t handle any more sniveling, hate-filled victims like you both.

Posted by: chap | April 14, 2007, 1:04 am 1:04 am

I guess Justice is NOT blind. As stated by some of the posted comments, if you are rich you are guilty and your money will buy you an acquital. Class, race and priviledge should not be the rule we use judge. Evidence and Justice (fair & truthful) should be our guide. The three Duke students were wrongly accused of a crime they did not commit. Everything else is just camouflage to make us feel better about our eagerness to convict based on our own biases. Terry’s attempt in this article completely fails to cover the real truth.

Posted by: Rich | April 14, 2007, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Mr. Moran,
I read your analysis.
Your logic has to rank at the top of the “most flawed reasoning” list for this year.
To be crisp, the thrust of your analysis is that we should not be concerned for these young men and their families because:
1. They came from priveliged backgrounds
2. They have successfully retained substantial wealth even after this debacle.
But most importantly…
3. They were substantially responsible for the sequence of events becuase of the nature of their participation.
This last point is the most interesting and most essential to your “reasoning.” If one is to believe that the events to which they have been subjected are justified because of their participation. One would need to apply this logic uniformly.
Specifically, it should be applied to all parties.
So that Nifong deserved to have been reelected even though it was largely a based on a fraud.
One must believe that the stripper got what she deserved. More importantly, one must believe that if she had been raped, the same logic would have applied. In this case, by your logic (by the way I don’t agree) she would have been largely responsible for the outcome because of the nature of her participation.
You really need to take some basic courses in logical analysis.

Posted by: Jon Sigler | April 14, 2007, 1:10 am 1:10 am

It’s ok to hate them when they are accused, and still ok to hate them when they are proven innocent, because they are WHITE? Sheesh! What has this world come to?

Posted by: Shawn | April 14, 2007, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Outpouring of sympathy? Please stand back another hundred yards from the forrest. We are all the people that said DNA matters when the DA said it doesn’t. We are all the people who said get the final story from the accuser when she kept telling variations. We are all the people that asking for facts and got political talk from the DA. We sat there and got a “get-real” letter from the Duke88, which makes them now appear to be less than intelligent and more of a political hack crowd (they are professors but only in the sense of holding a piece of paper).

Posted by: Roy | April 14, 2007, 1:14 am 1:14 am

So, Mr. Moran, should you ever be viciously and falsely accussed by a “poor or minority American,” will you forgo your personal bank account and not mount a strong defense just to prove your pedantic point about the American justice system? Two words: WHITE GIULT. I don’t think anything about this ordeal for the three lads involved has lead to a “cushy landing,” you simp!!

Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2007, 1:15 am 1:15 am

They certainly do deserve sympathy, as they were attacked by a racist district attorney. I hope Nifong and that horrid stripper recieve a great deal of prison time, which will still never make up for the pain that the Duke players have gone through. Shame on you for denying sympathy, just because your white guilt has overtaken your life.

Posted by: Justice | April 14, 2007, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Chap… Your quarrel is with David Armstrong not Virginia D. BTW Moran/ABC where is your response to all of this? If you had any nuts whatsoever you would offer your counter to these many excellent points. Come on get in the game.

Posted by: KF | April 14, 2007, 1:21 am 1:21 am

“And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”
Good grief Moran/Moron, the media has been covering this story for a year at least…not because of prosecutorial misconduct but because Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Duke University Professors and countless other other “high-profile” racists thought they had a chance to bust some preppie white boys for rape and whipped up a frenzy for a rush to judgement, completely ignoring the basic tenet of American Jurisprudence that all are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty. A false accuser of Rape ruins innocent people’s lives and should be prosecuted themselves. You know, the fake victim in this case willing rented herself out to strip naked for money in front of a bunch of college boys… then falsely cried rape. That is despicable.

Posted by: dilbert | April 14, 2007, 1:22 am 1:22 am

Nifong was prejudiced from the very beginning of the case. He discriminated against the Duke lacrosse players solely because they were rich white students, and the accuser was black. This is the 21st century. we are supposed to be beyond racial discrimination. Nifong is a disgrace to the judicial system.

Posted by: CraiG | April 14, 2007, 1:24 am 1:24 am

MORAN, you are a MORON.

Posted by: jo jo | April 14, 2007, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Comrade Moran
If you really want to feel better about your place in the world, quit your job. Hopefully it will be offered to a deserving, poor, black, hispanic, uneducated, lesbian, stripper, with 2 out of wedlock children. I am sure she can do no worse than you.

Posted by: Comrade G | April 14, 2007, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Listen up, MORON, these young men were proven innocent, yet you insist on LIBELING them even now. I only hope that the LAX players’ army of high-powered legal talent eventually gets around to breaking you on the wheel over your stupid, false, and disparaging commentary. Have no doubt; the civil suits are coming.

Posted by: NoFool | April 14, 2007, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Hiring strippers, requesting at least one of them to be white, hurling racial epithets, a charge of assault from an unrelated event… every example this journalist gives simply fails to justify the prosecutorial misconduct that occurred against these guys. While those examples may be judged to be reprehensible, they ought to be separated completely from the crime and abuse committed against these students. To link them in a way that this journalist does to allow him to suggest we ought not to feel too sorry for them is completely antithetical to our system of justice.

Posted by: Norihiko | April 14, 2007, 1:34 am 1:34 am

This seems like the usual post-hoc rationalization from the media to justify their embarrasing behavior in this incident, which may have even been just as bad as the DA, since it is ostensibly the media’s job to act as an independent watchdog and report only facts, not unsupported allegations. In fact, I am still waiting to see one single significant member of the media apologize for their completely unjustifiable rush to judgment in this case. The arrogance is astounding!
What the players did may have been immoral, but show me a 20-something male or-for that matter- female who hasn’t done something modestly immoral in their lives. Indeed, I wonder how many of the media members who condemned these players as guilty in part because of this behavior have themselves had encounters with strippers- or maybe they all are, in fact, perfect saints? As for the idea of them escaping from prosecutorial misconduct solely because of their background, it’s worth noting that this situation never would have gone anywhere near as far as it did were it not for their background. At a minimum, fair coverage by the media might have given Nifong enough breathing room in the early going to put the brakes on before ruining four lives (or have we all forgotten the coach who was fired as a result of all this?).
Just because these kids came from money and are white is hardly a reason not to view them as victims, because no one should have to go through what they did, black or white. As for them being able to recover their lives completely, well, maybe they will, but I doubt it. Sure, they may find a good job and family, but there will always be people who only know them as the Duke Rapists – in fact, there are plenty of people who still believe in their guilt or at least that these three had consensual sex with the stripper. Additionally, two of the three were unable to complete their senior year of college with their friends – those are memories that they will never get to have, replaced instead by memories only of constant media attention, false accusations, and threats – not to mention the trauma of having your entire life’s history dissected every day on millions of tv screens across the country. Finally, I think Mr. Moran should ask another high profile victim of the media’s rush to ratings, er, judgment how well he’s doing after 10 years….or does Richard Jewell not deserve our pity either?
While these kids are hardly the first victims of prosecutorial misconduct, that cannot justify what was done to them. Instead, it only raises questions as to why “journalists” that supposedly realize they need to do a better job covering prosecutorial misconduct against blacks chose instead to institute a frenzy in support of a prosecutorial rush to judgment against a couple of white kids from a relatively obscure sport. One can only wonder if Marcus Dixon would have been released by now if the media had dedicated its resources to his case instead of the Duke lacrosse team.

Posted by: Mark T | April 14, 2007, 1:35 am 1:35 am

You can tell this overgrown Macauley Culkin lookalike “reporter” that he wouldn’t like it if someone took this attitude toward him as a result of his predilections toward any one of the women (or is it men?) that he probably counts among his immoral college-years conquests! Liberal hypocrites!

Posted by: Not Bill Maher | April 14, 2007, 1:36 am 1:36 am

“They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
You got that right! The women were wrongfully called names, and Don Imus was fired.
These young men were wrongfully prosecuted and faced the possiblity of lengthy prison sentences, lost a year of their lives, and were plastered all over the national media as villians and you don’t even feel sorry for them. Yet you feel sorry for the Rutgers team.
That’s classic!
For a person who complains that justice is not blind, do you see your hypocrisy? Your justice is just as blind!

Posted by: Adam | April 14, 2007, 1:42 am 1:42 am

In what way did Jesse Jackson prejudge this case?

Posted by: freckles | April 14, 2007, 1:42 am 1:42 am

If you wonder why newspapers and the network news busness is in the tank it’s because morons
like Terry here write and report it.
His comments are about as bad the ones Don Imus recently made.
MTR

Posted by: MTR | April 14, 2007, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Rich and privileged? You mean that they are from good families, with parents who worked to provide a good education and other benefits for their children, rather than peddling trash called “journalism” for a living. It’s called “The American Dream”. You and your liberal buddies should stop the class warfare and glorification of losers, Terry Moron.

Posted by: M. Brewer | April 14, 2007, 1:51 am 1:51 am

If you wonder why newspapers and the network news busness is in the tank it’s because morons
like Terry here write and report it.
His comments are about as bad the ones Don Imus recently made.
MTR

Posted by: MTR | April 14, 2007, 1:52 am 1:52 am

This is ALL ABOUT Fox News you idiots. Terry Moran is not allowed to be the least bit biased. But you guys are too blind to notice the bias of your heroes at Fox News. Why aren’t you busy writing about Ann Coulter saying the 9/11 widows enoyed their husband’s deaths. I’ll tell you why — because she’s on YOUR TEAM. you’re just a bunch of bitter, undeducated hypocrites — ALL OF YOU!

Posted by: david armstrong | April 14, 2007, 1:52 am 1:52 am

Mr. Moran:
I do not for a moment believe that you believe most of what you have written. In my estimation this very safe, hedged, opinion piece was
a deliberate and sophomoric effort to draw in some attention and reader feedback. Towards that goal, your lackluster prose and unctuous moralizing have succeeded. Even I had to get in my two cents.
Your words,thought process,and Einsteinian revelations,inferences, and conclusions reek of subterranean hypocrisy and shallowness.
I should remind you that you forgot to skewer these “elite boys”
for not being in Baghdad or for not volunteering their time serving our
less fortunate Americans in a soup kitchen.
This is the first time that I have had the pleasure of reading your column. This is also my first
post about any topic on the Internet. One of the things that I am coming away with from this virginal experience is that with columnists like yourself as competition, my chances of becoming
a rival or even occupying your chair have improved dramatically.
I look forward to delving into your
archives and reading about what you have to say or have said about issues that are hopefully more important than some too-young-to- vote,”rich,white”,perhaps woefully,
sexually, inexperienced college kids.
Aaron DeSadow

Posted by: Aaron DeSadow | April 14, 2007, 1:56 am 1:56 am

How dare you Terry Moran! These young men were always innocent of the charges and yet, nothing is done to the accuser or Mike Nifong? Just as the young women from Rutgers claimed to be “scarred for life” by an assinine comment, these young men are truly scarred by having been unjustly drug through the dirt.
Your comments are idiotic and maybe you deserve to be fired for potentially defaming them!

Posted by: Carol | April 14, 2007, 1:58 am 1:58 am

This is ridiculous! They are INNOCENT. Terry Moran, you just grouped yourself with Nancy Grace and other lunatics in the media who rush to judgment. Have you no compassion whatsoever?
I will never again watch Nightline so long as you anchor it.

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 1:59 am 1:59 am

Has anyone organized a boycott of ABC News advertisers yet. We saw the power of boycotts and public outcry when they crucified Imus. Let’s turn the tables and get rid of this bigot as well.
What we need is an organized effort to boycott ABC New’s advertisers. Please start listing here companies we should contact to let them know of our outrage. I have already contacted ABC, but they won’t take action until we take away their money.

Posted by: Boycott ABC Advertisers | April 14, 2007, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Wow!!! I never seen so many commentaries on an article!!!
Can someone tell Matt Drudge. This has to be a record!!!

Posted by: Frankie | April 14, 2007, 2:20 am 2:20 am

some liar ruins 3 young mens lives and dont feel sorry for them? you are beyond an idiot. she should be tried,convicted and jailed.
you also just for being a clown.

Posted by: larry | April 14, 2007, 2:23 am 2:23 am

The Durham dirt bag and Nifong should be tossed in jail and charged with violating the civil rights of these boys. Privilege has nothing to do with rights. Sharpton and Jackson should also be in jail for slander, inciting riots and for being racist. I’m all for boycotts of ABC until they fire the author of this idiotic article, and get some color in those anchor chairs.

Posted by: Boycott ABC sponsors | April 14, 2007, 2:27 am 2:27 am

If we’re supposed to temper our sympathy for the lacrosse players, despite the injustice done them, because they had a mindless wild drunken party, where does that leave everyone’s favorite wife-beating, drug-addled lowlife Rodney King?
Injustice is injustice, whether or not you like the guy on the receiving end. It might be you the next time.

Posted by: TheProudDuck | April 14, 2007, 2:29 am 2:29 am

Let me take a wild guess, Moran. You’re a Democrat, right?

Posted by: JOHN | April 14, 2007, 2:32 am 2:32 am

Terry,
Thanks once again for showing all of America what is wrong with the main stream media. Your article is humorous at best and just plain ugly at worst. These guys are college kids, plain and simple. They acted stupid and were short sighted. But the term is “college kids”, not “college men” for good reason.
As for their economic status. Why start playing the class game when the whole time you were planning to use the good ole race game? You are simply pitiful.

Posted by: Peter2112 | April 14, 2007, 2:33 am 2:33 am

This is atrocious. I hope one day you have to stand by as injustice threatens to put you behind bars for 30 years. And even now, they will forever be identified with this fantastic lie. Your life goes on.

Posted by: Russ | April 14, 2007, 2:34 am 2:34 am

I agree with Mr. Moran; the idea of 3 young men hiring strippers is deplorable. What we need is to return to an era of sexual puritanism. I would not be unsympathetic to bachelor parties participants being charged with rape as well.
“Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.”
Truly atrocious. Like Stephen Colbert, I myself don’t see race, becoming particularly color-blind in the heat of passion.
What were these three white guys thinking, requesting at least one white stripper?

Posted by: minty | April 14, 2007, 2:39 am 2:39 am

Terry Moran,
You are a first-class elitist jerk. If you are ever falsely accused of rape and lose you career/reputation I sincerely hope someone writes an editorial about why we should not feel sorry for you, and goes on to explain all your past misdeeds my friend.

Posted by: Pat | April 14, 2007, 2:41 am 2:41 am

Wow, .. just wow. Apparently you are some other nationality because your views are truly un-American Terry. No offense but you might think about assimilating with the rest of the nation eventually… not sure how you got YOUR job but I would have no sympathy if you lost it since you espouse horrible opinions such as this.
Perhaps your sentiments are valued more at your home country?
-tk

Posted by: tk | April 14, 2007, 2:43 am 2:43 am

I hope you are falsely accused of something terrible one day, we’ll see how much sympathy you deserve.
By the way, there’s a typo in your byline, it’s spelled Moron.

Posted by: Unbelievable | April 14, 2007, 2:45 am 2:45 am

Wow, just wow.
So because these guys were able to afford good lawyers, lets not feel bad for them that they were wrongly accused of rape? Sure that makes perfect sense! You actually get paid to write this crap?

Posted by: Ted Griffin | April 14, 2007, 2:45 am 2:45 am

Terry is a racist. All you have to do is read this article and it is apparent. No need for review, no need for evidence… he is a racist.
It’s been said, so it must be.
Idiot.

Posted by: realist | April 14, 2007, 2:46 am 2:46 am

“Terry – let someone accuse you of plaigiarism, splash your name across every media outlet in the country for a year, and then retract that accusation. How WOULD YOU FEEL?”
– Well apparently the privileged little brat would feel just fine. After all except for the plagiarism… Terry has never done anything wrong, so he can cast stones about adults who engage in 100% legal behavior. And he encourages the rest of us to have no sympathy for him if/when he is accused of such a thing… well at least not too much sympathy.

Posted by: tk | April 14, 2007, 2:48 am 2:48 am

Terry – you’re kidding me, right?? I have long admired your reporting, but this is insane, biased, and I have to wonder if its based on your own personal dislike of these so-called ‘privileged’ individuals. This article reminds me more of ‘tabloid journalism’ than it does reporting the caliber of ABC. For example, what does Mr. Finnerty’s assault issue in DC have to do with the fact that someone lobbed FALSE and UNTRUE charges against him? The reality – it has nothing to do with the incident at hand, and is merely an attempt to smear character. Why… I wonder… I would think that you, and your reporting, would be far better than that. I’m hopeful this is a one time lapse of forethought on your part, and not a predictor of things to come in your reporting. Report the facts, Terry, not your personally biased opinions, please.

Posted by: Marnie | April 14, 2007, 2:50 am 2:50 am

Terry,
After ONLY 2 years of their lives being interrupted and in limbo, I guess you reckon they are not even innocent; when in fact they were not accused of any crime. DO YOU TAKE PLEASURE SAYING THIS? This is a lot of nonsense!
I didn’t need a journalist degree or a law degree to know that I AM RIGHT.
You are WRONG, man.

Posted by: Rachelford | April 14, 2007, 2:56 am 2:56 am

This article sounds like another one of Mr. Moran’s idiotic insights much like when he was a reporter during the Menendez trial for Court TV. He thought that the brothers should be given a break because he believed their sob story about being abused. It appeared that Mr. Moran thought that the brothers were almost justified in killing their parents. Mr. Moran naively bought the Menendez’s excuses just like the excuses for the Duke accuser. Like the parents of the Menendez brothers, Mr. Moran feels that the lacross players deserved their punishment, just because they were white and went to an “elitist” school. Perhaps Mr. Moran should revisit the Duke case and become the “fourth” lacross player just like he became the “third” Menendez brother. Your fellow graduates of Lawrence University 1982 (another elite school) are ashamed of you.

Posted by: Jack Davidson | April 14, 2007, 2:58 am 2:58 am

My God! I can not believe what I just read! I knew reporters had opinions. Everyone does. But to state such obviously biased comments is beyond belief! You have children, right? I do and I think spending 13 months worrying about my children’s life being ruined would be unbearable. I don’t care what their economic status is. I wish I had never read your comments. I will never be able to watch a segment by you without thinking about this. Easy fix. I just won’t watch anymore.

Posted by: Dexter | April 14, 2007, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Terry -
Yeah, you really are clueless for the reasons stated. But, as a graduate of Duke I’d like to take issue with one statement: “As students of Duke University or other elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives.” How exactly is my life privileged? I worked my but off to get into Duke and am now working hard to pay off the 120K it cost me. There are thousands of other people just like me. We worked hard to get into college and now we are productive members of society. I guess that makes us privileged in your view, and therefore not worthy of liberal sympathy. Well, if getting your liberal sympathy means I have to drop out of school, take drugs, father numerous children, and generally become a “victim” of the system I think I’ll pass.

Posted by: jellofiend | April 14, 2007, 2:59 am 2:59 am

My God! I can not believe what I just read! I knew reporters had opinions. Everyone does. But to state such obviously biased comments is beyond belief! You have children, right? I do and I think spending 13 months worrying about my children’s life being ruined would be unbearable. I don’t care what their economic status is. I wish I had never read your comments. I will never be able to watch a segment by you without thinking about this. Easy fix. I just won’t watch anymore.

Posted by: Dexter | April 14, 2007, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Wow, are you serious Terry? You will apparently do anything to suck up to your elitist, deep thinking pals who believe in socialism for everyone (except themselves of course). Oh you’ll be lauded at the cocktail parties Terry. As you get slapped on the ass they’ll be saying “great piece Moran, you really stepped up and told it like it is – those Dukies are a bunch of spoiled trust fund babies.” This will be right after all your reporter, producer, and media executive friends at the party (who all make 6 to 8 figure incomes) get done telling Hector to make sure he doesn’t scratch their Benz while he’s parking it. You’re so blinded by your own “white-man’s guilt” that it makes you think and write foolish thoughts. Your supporters on this web string all have one clear thing in common…jealousy, envy and hate.
Some people are born into hard working, self educated, high income families. How did they make that money? Maybe they, or their parents, or their parent’s parents EARNED it, worked hard for it, saved, invested, whatever. Some “have-nots” in this world (and guilt ridden buffoons like yourself) would rather urinate on the folks who have done well for themselves in life, rather than applaud them, or want to aspire to be like them. It’s much easier for people to be angry about what they don’t have, be ticked off at those who have it, and then criticize others for doing what they haven’t been able to accomplish themselves. You folks who don’t happen to be RICH – were you born into poverty?…bummer, me too. My parents came to the U.S. with nothing when I was 2. I went to public school, graduated high school, applied to a state college, got accepted because of my academic scores (not my skin color) took out a student loan, studied my tail off, got 2 degrees, and am now making some decent money and am paying my loan back with interest. Hmm, guess my kids are going to spoiled little bastards huh? And if they get wrongly accused of a crime some day, the Terry “Morons” of this world can say that they really weren’t that bad off because daddy was rich. The “poor” and “underprivileged” in this country live like kings compared to most people in Africa or the Middle East. The fact that you are born in this country or now find yourself here, means in and of itself that you are privileged. Yet some (like many on this post) who haven’t hit the jackpots in life don’t seem to ever see it that way. Your opportunity in this country IS your jackpot. Disliking others who’ve taken advantage of that opportunity is sad and pathetic, when you yourself can do that if you REALLY wanted to. You want to be poor? fine, be poor, it’s your life. You want to be rich, great, go get it, study, work hard, learn, open up a business, never give up, and you’ll get there (if that’s what you want). But whining about others being born rich, spoiled or privileged, well, that’s just pathetic. It says much more about you than them. Hey by the way Terry, I bet you never drank a drop of alcohol in college, attended any underage drinking parties, had premarital sex, smoked some weed, whizzed in an alley, jaywalked, cursed, or any other of a host of morally reprehensible things like attending a party with strippers – right? And since you never did anything like that at all in college you can now point to these Duke students as being morally corrupt to begin with, thus not deserving of too much sympathy for their plight.
By the way Terry, since you’re white (and obviously guilt ridden)…why didn’t you give up your spot at Lawrence University in Wisconsin so that a minority student with lesser academic credential could get in?? I’m sure a man of your high intellect and moral character is for affirmative action right? (remember, if you say no, your pals at the cocktail parties may not think you’re the man anymore). Affirmative action without any action is simply affirmative hype Terry. So why the heck didn’t you demand that your school turn down your application and instead give it to the likes of Crystal Gail Mangum?? By the way, how many minority students go to Lawrence these days Terry? or how bout when you where there back in the day? Hmmm, are you a rich, spoiled rotten little Lawrencie?? You came from a white (likely non poor) family right? Which makes you automatically (and unfairly) privileged doesn’t it? Thus by your own reasoning shouldn’t we assume that you really didn’t deserve to get your college degree, your cushy jobs at Court TV and now ABC. How much money do you make Terry? Whatever it is, you stole it from some poor “underprivileged” African American or maybe Korean kid right? Some poor Hispanic high school kid should have gotten that spot in your college – not you, and they should be White House correspondent making the big bucks, not you. I mean, your rise to the cream of the “journalism” crop at ABC probably had nothing to do with you studying hard in high school and college and then working long hard hours to get that position did it? It was likely just handed to you with no questions asked. “Here you go Terrence, have this cushy job, no go ahead, just take it, we don’t need to see your resume, you silly Caucasian” My sarcasm aside…how dare you talk about these three college students as being some how less persecuted because their families have succeeded in life. Its fools like you that perpetuate a society full of people that justify their own mediocrity by smearing those who have done well and had the nerve to pass on the fruits of their labor to their children. Jealousy, envy and hate…it’s too bad that’s all you folks supporting Terry’s verbal diarrhea can muster up in your brains.

Posted by: JK | April 14, 2007, 3:00 am 3:00 am

What Terry Moran does not understand is that those Duke Lacrosse players were accused and charged with rape, kidnapping, assualt BECAUSE they were white and “privileged”. Anyone falsely accused and persecuted as those young men were be they black,white,rich or poor has my sympathy. Those students if they are indeed privileged as you say have no control over the circumstances of their birth. Yet they were treated as sacrifical lambs on the altar of class envy and race. Mr Moran perpetuates this notion that rich white guys have it so good and isn’t it really satisfying to see them receive their just desserts once in a while. Mr Moran contrasts the circumstances of the Lacrosse players with the Rutgers Women’s team and asserts that they were very differently situated in life. I agree with Mr Moran. Both teams were at their respected and respective institutions advancing their educations. Individuals from both teams will likely graduate and become future contributors to and leaders of our society. One team was insulted by an idiot talk show host, received vast, comprehensive and most importantly supportive media coverage that resulted in the offending party termination of employment. They Rutgers team faced no charges, no legal battles, no possible prison sentence, no destruction of reputation. They were almost universally supported in the court of public opinion. Contrast that to the Duke lacrosse team who were excoriated and villified by their university faculty, by the large portions of the american public, by minority “leaders” faced serious criminal charges and on. Tell me Mr Moran who had it worse?

Posted by: David M. | April 14, 2007, 3:06 am 3:06 am

I hope when you are older and mature and have 20 year old son and are blamed and indictated for rape we will understand if you have the same view it is same Imus is canned and you are allowed to stay you deserve to be fired pronto.

Posted by: P.C.Barman | April 14, 2007, 3:09 am 3:09 am

You have got to be kidding, right? Not sorry for three young men whose names were smeared by an obviously rogue DA and whose lies were broadcast with very little critical thought by all of the mainstream media including ABC–who rushed to judgement along with many others. Yes, these young men were privileged and some of them were underaged drinkers. I bet you didn’t drink a drop before you were legal age. Yeah, right. I bet you never peeked at a Playboy. Yeah, right. All of this and the fact that their parents have some means makes it ok to falsely accuse these young men and for ABC to transmit the lies. You and ABC certainly did not protect their identities the way you protected the false accuser’s name. No, ABC repeated the slander, like bad gossip.
For hiring strippers and for having some means does not give a DA or ABC or you the right to label these young men as rapists, and you seem happy that they were labeled this way. Did you not notice the recent story about sex offenders, I think in Miami, whose only place to live is under bridges and overpasses like trolls. These men were almost sent to jail for 30 years and then had the rest of their lives ruined because they were guilty of what? Hiring strippers?
I would say “shame on you for your class envy,” but I bet you have a higher income then the parents of these young men.
How can you, in your high and mighty position of power (over information), be so tolerant of such injustice, just because it was heaped on someone of means.
Do you really think that taking a year out of three young lives, having college interrupted, having legal bills in the millions is just?
You cannot judge the just from the unjust and ABC cannot discern truth from lies. Why should anyone ever turn on ABC news?
You are more disgraceful than Imus (and he deserved to be fired). Imus’s words flew out of his mouth with little filtering by his mind. Your words, on the other hand, were thought out as your fingers typed them on your computer. You had your chance to see how revolting your words were and you did nothing.
Here are a few quotes you probably have never come across.
“Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.” Frederick Douglass
“An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” Samuel Johnson
“There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.” – Elie Wiesel
I hope your superiors at ABC look long and hard at your contract, and come to see that they are paying you way too much. I am not calling for your removal, at least not here, but there will be no tears here if they fail to renew your contract.
Here is another quote.
“He who commits injustice is ever made more wretched than he who suffers it.” Plato
I won’t cry for you, but I do feel sorry for you.

Posted by: formerABCviewer | April 14, 2007, 3:13 am 3:13 am

Degenerate, drug addled losers are the champions of our liberal cult of victimization. Those who have realized the traditional American dream through hard work are subject to scorn (and absurd taxation to pay for all the loser degenerates).
I’ve had enough of this crap. F you, Terry.
I’ve had enough of these pinko, socialist, white-guilt riddled retards running our “objective” mainstream media.
FIRE TERRY MORAN!

Posted by: chuck | April 14, 2007, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Mr. Moran,
With all due respect, get a life.
You and your opinions are one more nail in the coffin of the “drive by media”
Get a real job, yellow journalist.
Regards,
J.Roth

Posted by: J. Roth | April 14, 2007, 3:29 am 3:29 am

So Terry, do you expect us to believe that you were disgusted with the antics portrayed in “Animal House”? That you may have felt revulsion at some of the scenes from “American Graffiti”? Didn’t think so, you were right there laughing along with the rest of us. So now you want to bash these students for the same type of behavior that seems much more common than in years past. Further the positions these students have is not totally of their making. It is that of the parents. The students positions are an accident of birth. What makes them in your mind less worthy of the full faith and protection of the constitution and laws than anyone else. Seems that if you were to strip away the words “rich/poor”, “white/black” in this case, then all that is left is men. In a perfect world anyway. But it is not perfect, but when you decide guilt based on anything other than the real facts and begin to twist the rights of the “rich boys” or “railroad the poor minorities”, where do you stop? With every twist,the tree grows more bent. “The road to hell is paved with good intent”; do you really wish to see what hell is? I don’t, but keep up the class envy, the “my god is greater than your god”, or “my skin is better than your skin”, and we surely will see it firsthand. The fact that we will never reach the ideal of equality under the law does not absolve us of the obligation as citizens to strive for this goal.

Posted by: what the f_man | April 14, 2007, 3:31 am 3:31 am

All you blacks and Libs are just pissed off because you couldn’t nail yourselves some white guys.Terry Moron…err,I mean Moran,is an idiot.Always has been.

Posted by: Tango Jones | April 14, 2007, 3:40 am 3:40 am

Don’t see any good postings here Terry. What happened to them? Get the hint? Give me some news. Oh yeah, Thank Matt Drudge for posting this on the Drudgereport.com. I saw the title and only read the article because I wondered what kind of Jackass would actually write such an article.

Posted by: Charles | April 14, 2007, 3:41 am 3:41 am

Terry,
You yourself still have a lot of class-based insecurities, don’t you? It shows.

Posted by: George | April 14, 2007, 3:57 am 3:57 am

How much money do you make a year? We will remember that because you are a rich, white male that you deserve no sympathy or understanding if you are ever charged with a crime.

Posted by: Xavier | April 14, 2007, 3:59 am 3:59 am

Understand that the North Carolina Attorney General declared these men to be “innocent.” I have never seen such a declaration from a prosecutor in over thirty years of law enforcement.
This, combined with Nifong’s willingness to make exculpatory evidence disappear – just makes “prosecutorial misconduct” – a generous term, that – something of an understatement.
I suspect the word “malfeasance” may well come to the fore, in the very near future.
Let’s repeat that: Nifong had PROOF that these men were not remotely guilty of the crime of which they were accused, AND, from what we can see, simply ignored it, and kept this from the defendant’s attorneys.
Nifong should pay for their defense counsel, and then, he should pull hard time, with people who would love to lecture him on “prosecutorial misconduct.”
Nifong, his “investigator,” and anyone on his staff who knew of how he treated exculpatory evidence, should all be made guests of the North Carolina penal system.

Posted by: Remember Channon Christian | April 14, 2007, 4:10 am 4:10 am

Yo man why you bes trippin terry moran is de bomb

Posted by: Ashkwaanza | April 14, 2007, 4:13 am 4:13 am

They were kicked out of school, and their faces published all over the country as gang-rapists. How can you not feel sorry for them?
And how do you know what kind of connections they have? If you’ve done the research then print it, but being a Duke student and white does not mean you are well heeled.

Posted by: Ben | April 14, 2007, 4:17 am 4:17 am

What we need is a legal procedure, like disbarment, for journalists. Because a person is “priviledged” does not justify the manufacture of false information and prosecuting or promulgating lies either to win elections, sell newspapers or increase ratings.

Posted by: Bud Stafford | April 14, 2007, 4:20 am 4:20 am

Don’t feel sorry for them because others have also been victims of prosecutorial misconduct?
What a great argument, genius.
I hear there’ll soon be an opening for Nifong’s old job. You sound smart enough to take his place.

Posted by: Ray O | April 14, 2007, 4:21 am 4:21 am

MORAN OR MORON???????

Posted by: HIPPLE | April 14, 2007, 4:36 am 4:36 am

As an African American male I’m just astounded by this commentary of yours. Somehow they had it coming? The liars accusations and/or the false malicious prosecutions?
They hire 2 girls to dance with their tops off so they deserve the agony of all this? Are you aware that society long ago decided this behavior is fine?
Finally, if it wasn’t for rich people having means to fight off this kind of malarky, NOBODY would be safe from the power of the man. What are you thinking about? Smoking?

Posted by: Jerrod | April 14, 2007, 4:41 am 4:41 am

Let me get this straight Terry. First we beat the hell out of these guys, then we should airily dismiss the beating because they are finincially better off than their lying accuser. No wonder the press is mistrusted by so many. You are blind to your own bigoted mind set!

Posted by: Jim Shupe | April 14, 2007, 4:45 am 4:45 am

I don´t feel sorry for the students either. Except for Mr. Seligman who is definitely innocent, the others seem to have been cleared from all accusations only due to a racist legal system.

Posted by: David Szainboim | April 14, 2007, 4:49 am 4:49 am

You are an idiot.

Posted by: Todd | April 14, 2007, 4:51 am 4:51 am

“They are priveleged rich men who finally had a year of adversity in their lives as a side effect of their reckless partying…boo hoo.”
Ordering a stripper to your frathouse while in college is reckless partying?
What type of dork are you? Thats another saturday night for me and my boys. These guys were division 1 college athletes, at duke.
Their lacrosse team was one of the highest ranked teams before this mess. These guys were in phenomenal shape and worked hard to get there. Anyone who disagrees is ignorant and does not know lacrosse.
Not only that, But they had to get decent enough grades to make sure they didnt get booted off the team. and they went to duke. so Im willing to bet that even trying to get decent grades at duke can be tough. especially while playing lacrosse and staying in shape at the same time.
So kiss my ass, these guys dont sound like wreckless parties. Have they even been in trouble before this?
and to the preppy little weiner talking about how he was a division 1 athelete and did not drink while underage or use strippers, well, you didnt because you were a pussy. End of story.

Posted by: Sheepfocker | April 14, 2007, 4:57 am 4:57 am

If there is such a disparity in justice because of social or economic status then why are you not working harder to correct this injustice. As others have said the media goes for the easy flashy story of rich vs poor. Try using your position in the 4th Estate to do something to expose and correct this problem.

Posted by: Raymond Eade | April 14, 2007, 4:58 am 4:58 am

“They are priveleged rich men who finally had a year of adversity in their lives as a side effect of their reckless partying…boo hoo.”
Ordering a stripper to your frathouse while in college is reckless partying?
What type of dork are you? Thats another saturday night for me and my boys. These guys were division 1 college athletes, at duke.
Their lacrosse team was one of the highest ranked teams before this mess. These guys were in phenomenal shape and worked hard to get there. Anyone who disagrees is ignorant and does not know lacrosse.
Not only that, But they had to get decent enough grades to make sure they didnt get booted off the team. and they went to duke. so Im willing to bet that even trying to get decent grades at duke can be tough. especially while playing lacrosse and staying in shape at the same time.
So kiss my ass, these guys dont sound like wreckless parties. Have they even been in trouble before this?
and to the preppy little weiner talking about how he was a division 1 athelete and did not drink while underage or use strippers, well, you didnt because you were a pussy. End of story.

Posted by: Sheepfocker | April 14, 2007, 4:59 am 4:59 am

Why is Mike Pressler, the lax coach who lost his job over this, never mentioned? Given the drinking history of this group and prior warnings, wouldn’t the 2 captains hosting a keg party for the entire team 2 games into the season a bit defiant and provocative? Even if there were no women there at all, and the police called due to noisemakeing I’m sure Pressler would have been forced to step down. Has ANY ONE of the 47 team members acknowledged or taken an ounce of responsibility for the coach losing his career because of their need to have this event?
I agree Terry, wrongly accused, but far from heroes. “Lives ruined”, with all their wealth and support? Spare me.

Posted by: bob | April 14, 2007, 5:02 am 5:02 am

I demand this idiot be fired I am so offended. Just because of this idiotic story I think I’m gonna make a sign and walk in front of the building he work and shout catchy chants until he is fired. Oh no, wait I am a white conservative I will just ignore his existance from now on I had never heard of this nobody until now, and I hope I never do again, but I will not lose sleep over scum like this.

Posted by: Dan | April 14, 2007, 5:07 am 5:07 am

Your logic is totally backwards, MORAN! THAT THESE KIDS COULD AFFORD GOOD LEGAL REPRESENTATION ISN’T SOMETHING TO DERRIDE THEM FOR; FOR THEM, THE SYSTEM WORKED AS IT SHOULD FOR EVERYONE… you complain about all of the prosecutorial misconduct that goes unnoticed, and then in this case, When it’s noticed and corrected, you still complain. At least these poor kids were lucky enough to -EVENTUALLY- have the system work for them the way it’s supposed to work for everyone… And that’s a problem how, exactly, mr Moran?
I wince at how many times People here have said basically,”well, yeah, they shouldn’t have been falsely accused, but…they were hooligans…hired a stripper… drank underage…were rich…were spoiled…” There’s no BUT!!!
Remember what nifong called the kids at his first news conference?, HE CALLED THEM HOOLIGANS, because they had this party with strippers and alcohol! SINCE THEY WERE HOOLIGANS, THEN, THEY WERE GUILTY OF RAPE IN HIS MIND, IN DUKE’S MIND, IN THE MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC’S MIND. It’s these lables that caused this to go further than an open and shut case.
BY THE WAY, is there anyone here who would come out looking like fine upstanding citizens if they were accused of a crime and then presented with evidence of every “bad deed” they’d every done in their lives? Don’t fool yourselves into thinking you’re above anyone but REAL criminals.

Posted by: ELK | April 14, 2007, 5:17 am 5:17 am

As a 22 year old I liked drinking and even seeing strippers do their thing. My father was a successful dentist. I guess by this clowns logic if I were falsley accused it would not be a big thing and get over it. What a twit. A rogue DA going after innocent people is wrong period. Rich, poor, white brown the point is that Nifong abused his power. So I suppose that in the clowns view vitims have to be deserving–i.e. if the young men were poor and black and the victim white and rich it would be o.k. with him. My god what medication is this guy on?

Posted by: robert | April 14, 2007, 5:19 am 5:19 am

One hired a stripper, one was a stripper, so let us not all succumb to name calling. Think on this, if you will. What should happen to someone who files a false police report, and commits libel against the character of three others? The falsely accused Duke team members should be able to recover damages for her defamatory statements under the law. At the very least, will the officials involved equitably require public apology from the libelous stripper such as was required of radio talk show host Don Imus for his libelous words?
These real questions remain.

Posted by: andjusticeforall | April 14, 2007, 5:24 am 5:24 am

Good heavens! What a disgusting display of hate and bigotry! By the ‘writer’, I mean!
Just think of how evident the offense would be if he suggested the false persecution of some other innocent person was ‘no big deal’ because that person was Black, or poor, or female. Well guess what? Same thing if you do it the other way around,
Truth is truth. Justice is justice. And a hateful ignorant bigot is just that – whatever group he choses to spew his hate at.

Posted by: MissyK | April 14, 2007, 5:26 am 5:26 am

I’m just curious what the outcome would have been had the situation been turned around. What if this were a white woman blaming black men? I think we would see Sharpton and Jackson scream “hate crime” since the woman lied.

Posted by: Jimmy C | April 14, 2007, 5:31 am 5:31 am

There is a liberal “-ism,” a mindset, if you will, that dates back to the earliest days of “The Great Society” and Nixon’s launch of Affirmative Action as official government policy. This most basic dogma of Liberalism is something I like to call “Get-even-with-’em-ism.” The operative concept is that whenever something bad happens to someone who DOESN’T feed at the trough of public assistance, that’s a good thing — even if there is no corresponding benefit to the “less fortunate.”
The conceit is that anyone who has anything (a member of the “haves,” as defined by the Federal government and tax code), got whatever they have through illegitimate means… like getting an education and working hard, or (horrors!) being born into a family where the parents got an education and worked very hard to enhance the lives of their children.
The Ying to this Yang of screwy social philosophy holds that regardless of the self-evident falsehood and indefensible disingenuity of the affirmative arguments, anything that takes from the “haves” by government fiat and regulation is somehow automatically beneficial to the “have-nots,” all empirical evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
Any legislation that advances this concept in a practical way (tax increases, increased spending on social programs, growth of government regulation and control of civilian economic activity, etc.) is considered to be inherently good, compassionate, noble, and VERY politically correct… as if tearing down and appropriating the fruits of the “have’s” labor and risk-taking is fair, while NOT expecting the non-tax-paying, non-productive “have-nots” among us to take responsibility for their poor life choices (dropping out of school, joining gangs, parenting out of wedlock, engaging in criminal activities, etc.) makes perfect sociological sense!! After all, weren’t those poor life choices all the fault of some slave-owner from 200 years ago, whose descendants MAY have done well in the interim. OBVIOUSLY, those descendants owe the ‘have-not’s’ a debt of inheritance, an “evening up” of “life’s lottery,” as Richard Gephardt liked to call it. Equally obvious — at least to the Liberal world view — is the necessity of employing the tax system to exact this tribute to the religion of “Get-even-with-’em-ism” from that ever-shrinking segment of the American population that actually foots the tax bill.
When no one “wins” but the “rich guy” loses, you are seeing “Get-even-with-’em-ism” at its finest. The actual economic effects are bad for literally everyone, but among that constituency that votes for a living and the Liberal politicians who pander to them, this is, indeed, a fine thing.
So whatever happened to MLK’s ‘content of character vs. color of skin’ concept? It was soon lost in the tsunami of 1960′s social legislation that sought not so much to level the playing field for future generations, but to punish an entire current generation of “have’s” and those to come for the ‘sins’ of their forefathers. “And to this punishment there shall be no end…” if Liberals get their way and continue to succeed in institutionalizing “Get-even-with-’em-ism” as the de facto state religion of the United states.
Can I please, please just click my heels and go home to economic reality? Can I please go back to a United States that seeks to protect Constitutional Rights rather than awarding amorphous, politically imposed “rights” to politically privileged, politically defined ‘minorities.’ Can we please at least begin repealing those statutory and regulatory (as opposed to God-given) ‘rights’ that purport to guarantee favorable (albeit still inadequate) economic outcomes (NOT opportunities)for “have-nots,” despite their detrimental life choices and personal behaviors? Can we please begin to turn the tide of dependency on government programs that has now imprisoned at least three generations of “have-not’s” behind the bars of lowered expectations, of indoctrinated beliefs that ONLY government set-asides and transfer payments can sustain them.
This entire Duke fiasco is a direct and extreme outgrowth of this long-standing sociological movement to turn the socio-economic world on its logical ear. According to the doctrines of “Get-even-with-’em-ism,” these “rich, smart-ass, white boys” (apologies to former Ambassador and Atlanta Mayor Andrew Young) at Duke deserved to suffer whatever arbitrary injustice befell them, simply because their parents could afford the exorbitant costs of Duke University… which just happens to be located in an area of local political transition such that the University’s ‘neighbors’ are overwhelmingly members of, and believers in, the Church of Get-even-with-’em-ism. This was Nifong’s target political constituency as he sought re-election. Sadly, in a manner typical among today’s Liberal institutions of higher learning and ever-higher tuition costs, the Duke powers-that-be chose to scrape and bow at the altar of “Get-even-with-’em-ism” and eat their young.
Then the ‘ca-ca’ hit the proverbial artificial wind source. The egg on faces has been widespread and especially gooey — from Jesse and Al, to the elitists running Duke, to the mainstream media mavens like Terry Moran who sensationalized this case from the outset, to the North Carolina Bar Association which has had to severely repudiate one of their own. On the other hand, apart from the Attorney General and the N.C. Bar Association, has their been any acknowledgment of culpability by any of the other players in this fiasco? Have we heard either of the “Reverends” apologizing? Has anyone in the mainstream media examined their own role in encouraging this miscarriage of justice, or will they remain forever mired in their navel-contemplations, resulting in moronic stories and opinion pieces admonishing us NOT to have any sympathy for the true victims. These young men became the targets and sacrificial lambs of an inexorable process by which only the sensationalism of the accusations — NOT the trail of evidence — dictated official prosecutorial actions, mainstream media coverage, and the shaping of public attitudes.
For one of the few times in the last 40 years, in this instance, justice actually prevailed. The Big Lie of “Get-even-with-’em-ism” was exposed, exploded, discredited, and reflected back with a blinding glare onto those whose rush to prosecute, persecute, accuse, try, and sentence these young men — in the total absence of ANY corroboration of the accuser’s ever-changing testimony — is the REAL story of this incident. It’s the story that Terry Moran will never report. It’s the story that will go right over the heads of Chris Matthews and Tavis Smiley. But make no mistake, the American People of every color and socio-economic position — even those normally ignorant of political matters — noticed what happened here. No one could fail to see the enormity of the injustice or the complicity of the principals and their willing accomplices. I would submit that this incident’s over-arching social and political significance has yet to be fully recognized or reported.
The Duke fiasco may actually turn out to have been a tipping point signaling the beginning of the end of the ‘Second Reconstruction Era’ in America. If the political repercussions of this blatant institutional injustice are loud enough, broad enough, and long-lasting enough, we may yet see the beginnings of REAL equality in America. What a concept!!!
J. Shapiro
Atlanta, GA

Posted by: J. Shapiro | April 14, 2007, 5:36 am 5:36 am

Liberalism — my definition — a belief in the fundamental rights of the individual as relates to society; a belief that the individual has a specific set of rights.
You lambaste these common idiots for making legal decisions and encourage the violent violation of their rights to freedom and property. Whether or not they had a cushion (as you term it), the obligation of society is to ensure the protection of their rights. A fundamental difference exists between public degradation and private struggle, both of which you mention exist, and I do not know whether it is better to suffer defeat anonymously or public humiliation at the hands of the system of law. What remains is the duty of the law to treat all men equal. Whether these men were guilty or innocent and whether they were found guilty or innocent, the system failed their right to equality under the law even before the charges were dropped. I suggest caution in meting out justice, for, under the law, their position and immoral (though perhaps unfortunately legal) behavior should have no influence on their treatment. The public outcry against these men defies understanding since it spits on the principles of our society.
I would ask you to fulfill your duty as a journalist and bring to public light those others you mention who have suffered at the hands of corrupt officials. Please, I do not ask this sarcastically but in hoping that whatever insight you claim to have may benefit those people you neglect currently by not speaking on their specific behalves.

Posted by: College Student | April 14, 2007, 5:36 am 5:36 am

Let’s be completely honest here: If it had been some black man let out of jail because DNA evidence vindicated him on a rape charge . . though he may have had a crime-filled past, you would no doubt be estatic. These kids are white as rice and the sons of successful American families, therefore, they have your scorn. As for their behavior, a bunch of college kids drinking and partying in their frat house is not unusual . . . would you rather they be out smoking crack and gang bangin’?

Posted by: mahone | April 14, 2007, 5:38 am 5:38 am

opinions o’ plenty …they’re like assholes; everyone has one.

Posted by: lummox | April 14, 2007, 5:46 am 5:46 am

I hope the members of the team and their coach take as big a chunk of flesh from every bad player as possible.
When they declared these guys Innocent, it was not a change in status. Duke University, and the lynch mob of 88 of its employees, need to be educated as to why they shouldn’t do what they did.
I say any settlement short of $2.0 Billion lets them off the hook easy.

Posted by: xdream | April 14, 2007, 5:54 am 5:54 am

You have forgotten that these boys will never EVER be able to extract themselves from these false charges. As long as the internet exists, when the names of these boys are put into Google or any other search engine, the stories of these rape charges will pop up. They will be condemned by the efficiency of the internet forever.

Posted by: Anne | April 14, 2007, 6:02 am 6:02 am

It appears ABC pays you to write “yellow paper” not to be a journalist. In that you apparently excel.

Posted by: George | April 14, 2007, 6:09 am 6:09 am

You are an idiot! Let’s look at your pristine past… Still hiding behind the quill. Never heard of you….. and you will never be anything.

Posted by: Tim Blair | April 14, 2007, 6:10 am 6:10 am

What a moron!

Posted by: Tawanna | April 14, 2007, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Oh I get it Terry… Katie Coutic wrote your blog!

Posted by: Jon | April 14, 2007, 6:19 am 6:19 am

Did you listen to Seligman’s comments when he talked about how this experience opened his eyes to injustices and how fortunate he was to have the resources to fight it, and how it made him think about those not as fortunate as him to have those resources? I should expect as much from you and your corporation who have sided against the Dukies from the beginning. I wish the 85 Duke professors who, like you and your network rushed to accuse the Dukies, would lose their tenure.

Posted by: Jack Fraley | April 14, 2007, 6:20 am 6:20 am

Moron’s thinking is straight from the liberal textbook and can be reduced to this simple equation: White + wealthy = “bad.”
Liberalism truly is a mental disease. Case in point: Mr. Moron bemoans his assertion that poor folks get railroaded by unscrupulous prosecutors and cops “every day.” But isn’t Terry Moron supposed to call himself a reporter? If Mr. Moron and his news organization truly care and wish to make a difference, shouldn’t they beat the bushes to find and report the injustices they claim are so prevalent! Apparently, that would be asking too much of Mr. Moron. . . he would have to get his own white hands dirty. Mr. Moron instead writes an intellectually lazy op-ed piece in which he essentially convicts these “Dukies” of the capital crime of racism for requesting “at least one white stripper” on that fateful nights one year ago.
To which my initial reaction was, “Huh!?” Then I wondered, “Is Mr. Moron’s wife or significant other a white person?” If so, then by applying Mr. Moron’s own logic, wouldn’t that make Mr. Moron a racist? And aren’t racism and hypocricy two of the highest crimes in the liberal code? Moron!

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 6:39 am 6:39 am

So I guess the pain and suffering of Kobe Bryant and his family is OK because he had the wealth to beat a false rape charge. Having a bunch of your nit wit politically correct follow the herd professors gang up on you is OK. ou must be looking to follow in Dan Rathers foot steps!

Posted by: david | April 14, 2007, 6:46 am 6:46 am

In addition to the overall content of your comments being ignorant you should be called out for your blantantly racist assumptions. You quickly assume that the predominately black Rutgers womens basketball players are less well off than the duke lacrosse players. You certainly have no knowledge of any of their personal financial situations and to assume that those basketball players are financially disadvantaged speaks to your racist thinking. There happen to be some black female basketball players whose parents are physicians and corporate executives. Shame on you and now you owe them an apology

Posted by: jeff | April 14, 2007, 6:48 am 6:48 am

So Terry…had the players been on a black basketball team and the stripper claiming rape was white, the prosecutor was Republican and the whole situation racially reversed, would you have said the same words you spewed in your column? I don’t think so. Would you be comparing their “income potential” to Duke player parents wealth? Would you call the DA’s malicious conduct “prosecutorial misconduct?” You’re just bending over backwards attacking the most convenient PC targets nowadays — wealthy white people. Never once do you consider they got that way through hard work.

Posted by: Stephen | April 14, 2007, 6:53 am 6:53 am

Truely amazing…last year it was SEX,LIES & DUKE. This year its about their “privileged lives”.
Of course you were not alone in your biased reporting of the case early on. It made for juicey a TV
story and ratings. The DA provided the lines and you and the media gladly swallowed the bait.
Nighline and the media is just as guilty as the Nifong in the treatment of the lacrosse players. What is remarkable is your continued offense against these kids and their families.
The “large cushions” that you refered to are being used to cover your butt. Whem you’re done pass to the Duke administration.

Posted by: njcliff | April 14, 2007, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Perhaps I should feel sorry for you as your name should be corrected to Terry Moron.

Posted by: c. green | April 14, 2007, 7:02 am 7:02 am

And you would really call your profession of journalism admirable?

Posted by: Lee | April 14, 2007, 7:04 am 7:04 am

The real story of this case is anti-white, anti-male, class bigotry and hatered led to false charges that never should have been considered if the facts were all that mattered. The only victims of a crime were the Dukies. Your article is a clear example that this bigotry is alive and well and that we have learned nothing from their pain. You should be ashamed.

Posted by: frank arena | April 14, 2007, 7:11 am 7:11 am

After the fact you’ve reduced the case to it’s essentials, drunks and strippers. As a journalist, what do you see now that wasn’t obvious at the time. There was no news story here to cover that couldn’t be found in some other gutter outside some other college campus.
Does the posturing of “community leaders” make something a story? Do intellectually vacant academics wringing their collective hands justify this sort of coverage? Do media types talking to themselves, or rounding up the usual “panel of experts” make something a story?
Face it, the news media got played in this one over a story that wasn’t a story. The networks need to stop covering political agendas and Anna Nichole Smith and go back to covering news.

Posted by: Dudley | April 14, 2007, 7:13 am 7:13 am

I don’t know why I continue to be amazed by how ignorant some people can be. These kids are “rich and privileged” because their parents are more economically productive than most. Rich people spend and invest, which creates jobs that lift people out of poverty. They are not the cause of poverty. The less money you earn, the more YOU are the cause of poverty.

Posted by: Eric | April 14, 2007, 7:18 am 7:18 am

This article shows just how out of touch ABC news is with reality. Blame the victims – Im sure the writer never made any judgements in error about being at a party or bachelor party where strippers were present. Articles like this are the reason traditional news sources are losing all respect with the people. What an idiot!!

Posted by: scott | April 14, 2007, 7:18 am 7:18 am

I think that the same source who said they used “racial epithets” are the same liars who claimed rape. I’m appalled at the people here who are gleeful that some rich WHITE boys got a taste of injustice… pretty sad and misplaced vindication!

Posted by: Hugh Jass | April 14, 2007, 7:22 am 7:22 am

Don’t feel sorry for them?? Are you kidding? The were dragged through hell on every news media out there for over a year. Their parents went through hell. Why do I need to think about anybody else or color? DO YOU think about the starving BLACK children in Darfur everytime you sit down to eat? Probably not. This was a TRAVESTY and what the hell does color have to do with it? You are a moron.

Posted by: Gail | April 14, 2007, 7:24 am 7:24 am

Left Wing liberal media at it’s best. So quick to judge!

Posted by: William | April 14, 2007, 7:27 am 7:27 am

Terry. You are just pissed that your leftist “perfect” story didn’t have a so perfect ending.

Posted by: robert trajan | April 14, 2007, 7:29 am 7:29 am

what a flawed liberal logic that you have. Pathetic as it is, it is really understandable. Yep,poor white boys were railroaded but lets keep in mind that we had a chance to railroad them to make up for all the minorities that have been railroaded..Is that about right Terry? Oh my god, and they ordered a WHITE stripper too?Good God, what were they thinking? I would have hated to been around you in college. On the other hand, you would have ordered a male strippers anyway so guess I am lucky….

Posted by: Benny | April 14, 2007, 7:29 am 7:29 am

Yes, Terry, those rich white men were misbehaving, but so was the poor black woman. There are many other ways she could have earned money for her family besides stripping. But what you’re overlooking is that is was her LIES that made the whole episode into a national issue. Had it not been for her LIES, noneof us would have ever heard of any of them.
And whose fault is it that the media covered THIS story and not others, like that of James Giles? It’s not the Duke players’ fault, but you make it sound like it is.
Typical Terry Moran nonsense.

Posted by: Tim Hadley | April 14, 2007, 7:33 am 7:33 am

McFly wrote:
“I don’t feel sorry for the Duke lacrosse players. When you look at the number of African-American men who have been charged and found guilty in a rush for judgment, they just received a “little taste” of what African-Americans have experienced for decades.”
Simply because there is judicial misconduct in the US and simply because there are many unjustly imprisoned, why are you arguing that other people would have to be subjected to that simply to give them “a little taste?” Why is it that simply because injustice has happened against a particular section of society we are anxious to see the same injustice proliferate when it happens to a different section?
Everyone, including Mr. Moran, is forgetting that prosecutorial misconduct is unjust because it isn’t fair, not because it happens to minorities or the economically disadvantaged. That is a byproduct of the injustice, not the injustice itself.
We get clear about that, and we get clear about the whole thing.

Posted by: Joshua Caler | April 14, 2007, 7:34 am 7:34 am

The good news here, folks, is that Terry Moran gives you a deep look at the rotten heart of the left-wing news media. Anyone with illusions about their bias or their willingness to spin an egregious violation of justice by a Democratic prosecutor needs to wake up.

Posted by: prof | April 14, 2007, 7:34 am 7:34 am

Your thesis and rationale are totally flawed. The justice system was corrupted for political gain by an out of control DA, the accusor had a history of lying and there was clearly a rush to judgement by the media – no one with any clear logic would come the conclusion you did. Maybe that is why most of the media (ABC for example) is out of sync with the rest of the contry!

Posted by: Jim Allen | April 14, 2007, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Gee, because they are rich, white boys it is okay to falsely accuse them of rape, drag them through the mud on national television, and basically convict them before any trial ever starts, then when the charges are dropped because the accuser is a liar and there is no evidence whatsoever, to not apologize or even feel sorry for them.
Nice.
So in the uber-perfect liberal world, white people don’t deserve fair justice because they have money? Were you born retarded or did you have to work at it over time?

Posted by: Dave_the_Rave | April 14, 2007, 7:36 am 7:36 am

Are you a real journalist or do you just play one at work?
UNREAL!!

Posted by: Pat | April 14, 2007, 7:41 am 7:41 am

And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”
Mr. Moran, is that the fault of the three Duke lacrosse players, or you and your coworkers?
But you assert we shouldn’t feel too badly for them because they were part of a fraternity that acted, like, well a fraternity. That isn’t meant to excuse their behavior, but it is meant to challenge your assertion that somehow they had it coming because they hired strippers.
And I have to guess, Mr. Moran, that your children, if you have any, could be described as “coming from means.” Does that mean it is acceptable to slander them with false charges?
I can’t shake the feeling that you are somehow disappointed that this story didn’t turn out the way you hoped it would.
Why not just report the facts instead of trying to change the world?

Posted by: "ckenny | April 14, 2007, 7:41 am 7:41 am

I’m so sick of hearing how these kids are children of priviledge. They were suburban kids who most likely will be paying off student loans for the next 30 years as they become productive members of the workforce. It’s because of this false perception that their names were plastered throughout the media, how many legit rape cases are processed without the publicity? These kids were penalized by writers like Moran because of their background, I would like to know how manhy other articles Moran has written about victims of false accusations asking the public not to feel bad for them.

Posted by: Rick | April 14, 2007, 7:41 am 7:41 am

The author of this hit piece is just as sick as Nifong. The disease is called Liberalism. It is a pathology, not an ideology.

Posted by: Austin Jones Jr | April 14, 2007, 7:42 am 7:42 am

Terry, assuming you actually have an education (which is questionable based on the contents of this article) do you ever remember hearing the simple phrase “Injustice ANYWAY is a threat to justice EVERYWHERE”? It doesn’t say “except when the people accused have money and are able to defend themselves.”
Take a break from you yellow journalistic job and sign up for a few courses on history and, more importantly, simple logic.

Posted by: fred | April 14, 2007, 7:46 am 7:46 am

The media is failing America and ABC with Fox leads the pack.
This article is yet another example.
Offensive tripe to say the least.

Posted by: Albert | April 14, 2007, 7:47 am 7:47 am

Terry, why aren’t you reporting these other incidents of prosecutorial misconduct?

Posted by: Raymond Helm | April 14, 2007, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Before anyone rushes to judge Terry as being incredibly stupid consider his logic; other people have been victimized by the criminal justice system, ergo, it’s not a bad thing if the Duke players were victimized.
Now you may feel free to consider Terry incredibly stupid.
And I just know that were Terry in a tight legal spot he would go out of his way to find the most incompetent,cheap ambulance chaser to represent him. Imagine, high priced lawyers !

Posted by: johnt | April 14, 2007, 7:51 am 7:51 am

Yep, Terry is another idiot who fights for more criminalization of men’s heterosexuality.
These well connected journalists who criticize well-off white families should look in the mirror first.

Posted by: Bill Bix | April 14, 2007, 7:51 am 7:51 am

Are you sure your name isn’t Terry Moron?

Posted by: Brian S | April 14, 2007, 7:52 am 7:52 am

A typical arrogant, leftist media response: “Okay- so the Duke kids weren’t guilty of rape, but since some minorities occasionally get railroaded, we did nothing wrong. The duke kids are still guilty of the original sin of being white and male.”
With guys like Terry Moran in our media, how can we hope to ever have any sort of objectivity??? The mainstream media needs intellectual diversity.

Posted by: TLA | April 14, 2007, 7:55 am 7:55 am

This is just another example of the prejudice against white males in our society. White males are assumed guilty by virtue of their existence, and when cleared of any wrongdoing, not accorded any sympathy.
If these players had been black athletes the pop-culture media hounds would have been in a rush to find out if the prosecutor or the police had ever used the “n” word and had any brutality charges or negative performance reviews. Their credit histories, any criminal history (real or imagined), video rentals, and family histories would have been plastered all over the media.
It’s time for the self-righteous media elite and the race-baiting leaders of the now-dead civil-rights movement to own up to their moral culpability in keeping the race relations dialogue stuck in reverse.

Posted by: Burt | April 14, 2007, 7:56 am 7:56 am

Terry,
If thinking is supposed to be part of your job; you are way over paid.

Posted by: J M Droitcour | April 14, 2007, 7:57 am 7:57 am

You should change your name to Terry Moron.

Posted by: Bret Weeks | April 14, 2007, 7:58 am 7:58 am

This article and the class envy it contained is exactly why I do not watch CBS or any of the other lamestream media in this country.
CBS you are on your way OUT and the sooner the better for this country.
DISGUSTING

Posted by: Redleg | April 14, 2007, 8:00 am 8:00 am

J. Shapiro of Atlanta, Ga. Please, please run for President! What an excellant letter and oh, so true. For this columnist to even SUGGEST that these guys shouldn’t be represented by the best because “others can’t afford it” is complete class warfare. They were innocent! Period!

Posted by: M. Sumler | April 14, 2007, 8:00 am 8:00 am

This is just another example of the prejudice against white males in our society. White males are assumed guilty by virtue of their existence, and when cleared of any wrongdoing, not accorded any sympathy.
If these players had been black athletes the pop-culture media hounds would have been in a rush to find out if the prosecutor or the police had ever used the “n” word and had any brutality charges or negative performance reviews. Their credit histories, any criminal history (real or imagined), video rentals, and family histories would have been plastered all over the media.
It’s time for the self-righteous media elite and the race-baiting leaders of the now-dead civil-rights movement to own up to their moral culpability in keeping the race relations dialogue stuck in reverse.

Posted by: Burt | April 14, 2007, 8:01 am 8:01 am

In what kind of world do you live? By trying to minimize the impact these false accusations have done to these guy’s lives, you show a complete lack of objectivity. I would not want you on a jury because you might evaluate the class of a person before the facts. You sure are not the kind of journalist I would like to have on my staff.

Posted by: John Doester | April 14, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am

Wow… After reading I’ve come to the conclusion that Terry Moran is either a liar, a moron or a complete dweeb or a combination of the preceing. Those young men didn’t do anything butalmost every day at fraternities, colleges, offices and yes newsrooms. They hired strippers. Is there any major city in the country where you can’t perchase a strip-o-gram or its equivelent?
These kids exeplify why the legal system in this country is held in fear and loathing.
It operates with impunity and prosecutors and judges are hardly ever held to account. I have practiced in the belly of the beast and I believe the system must be torn down and replaced with a system that dispenses justice and not law.
But you know, what there wouldn’t be a place for someone like Nifong, Fitzgerald or Moran in that system.

Posted by: greatmag | April 14, 2007, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Terry,
The stupidity displayed your column is beneath contempt.
There’s no liberal media bias, oh no, never.
What a joke.

Posted by: Sean | April 14, 2007, 8:05 am 8:05 am

??? Well, using Moran’s (or is that “Moron”) logic …
Black stripper = liar
White prosecutor = liar
Kids of privilege = liar
So, everybody’s guilty, eh?
Moran exemplifies what’s wrong with news commentary in this country: lack of substance.

Posted by: Elz | April 14, 2007, 8:13 am 8:13 am

And tell me veganman, exactly what makes them look bad to you?
The fact their innocent, contrite and apologetic towards the drinking that night and the incident in general, their community service, or their refusal to sue the accuser?
Or is it they are not poor and/or white?

Posted by: Schmoe | April 14, 2007, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Your comments are why I no longer watch the main stream media’s constant attempts to portray white men who happen to have been born to successful parents persistently villified. Your attempts at class warfare, wealth redistribution & socialist agendas are boring at best. Why don’t you guys all move to Cuba when Castro finally dies & establish your communist utopia down there? Hell, most of the hard work has already been done for you. Or maybe Haiti, they could surely use some of your elitist socialist help.

Posted by: Tom | April 14, 2007, 8:16 am 8:16 am

Call Sharpton and Jackson and Olberman! Hurry! Terry Moran has been making disparaging statements about a class and race that I find offensive. My sensibilities have been bruised. Turn out the liberal media machine! Where is the outrage, the protests?
Oh. It is a liberal columnist hiding been his first amendment rights making those statements about the “evil rich” and practicing race baiting in reverse.
Then,I am sure he will be hailed as a champion of journalist integrity by his fellow liberals and lauded for his insight not threatened with loss of employment and reputation.
FIRE TERRY MORAN!

Posted by: tagstick | April 14, 2007, 8:16 am 8:16 am

Whether the PARENTS of these young men are rich or not does not matter. Whether they were white or black does not matter.
Justice in this country is decided by men who want votes and so warp and miscarry the system to fit their needs. This is whats wrong, we should feel sorry for EVERY miscarriage of justice and shamed by it.
For a reporter who is supposed to REPORT facts and not spin his opinion how about you give us a few facts? Your opinion carries no more weight than anyone else but your FACTS can stand up and talk if found.
I am sick of opinions. Facts. That is your JOB to uncover facts instead of sitting in an office pounding an opinion piece. Journalism is dead.
I love the fact that if you are poor you are somehow more noble and worthy of praise and pity. No sir, what you have in your bank account does not make you more noble or less so.

Posted by: Mike B | April 14, 2007, 8:17 am 8:17 am

What blacks in North Carolina should really be concerned with is the fact they were AGAIN taken advantage of by the political left. Nifong misled the voters for his own political gain (reelected by carrying a vast majority of voters of color, largely because of his visibility in this case), and because of media socialists like Mr. Moran, it has magically become the fault of the students for being ‘rich.’ We would all get along so much better if we would just start telling the truth.

Posted by: Q | April 14, 2007, 8:17 am 8:17 am

Goodness! The only thing worse than being this stupid is being this envious on top of being this stupid.

Posted by: Joe | April 14, 2007, 8:18 am 8:18 am

I was just starting to watch ABC with Gibson — now I will go back to Fox. This is really sick. Moran must have been from the poor white side when he was growing up.

Posted by: Turk | April 14, 2007, 8:21 am 8:21 am

This biased post just serves to remind me why I don’t watch ABC news.
It is an opinion based on the color of these young men – - that’s racism where Terry wants to admit it or not.

Posted by: Laurie Davis | April 14, 2007, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Terry, you’re a moron.
So we shouldn’t feel for these kids just because they’re white and come from families of wealth?
Oh and, you omit Seeligman’s comments in the press conference, where he reached out and noted how the experience made him realize how people of less resources and of other backgrounds (not to mention in many cases, lack of a supportive family) face and even more difficult struggle when they get railroaded.
After all, if the ultimate goal is (and should be) to treat everyone equally, without consideration of race or economic status etc, then we should feel as bad for these kids as the less wealthy minorities who have been railroaded by overzealous DAs. You’re just race/class baiting.

Posted by: Charles | April 14, 2007, 8:22 am 8:22 am

I can’t believe some of these comments on here. Who cares if these are white boys with money- that is not the point. Just because they go to an elite school and may have more money than the average joe doesn’t mean that they are suddenly more or less guilty or should or should not be pitied under specific circumstances. Anyone who doesn’t feel sorry for them should stop with the class envy. The problem with this entire case is that there is an out of control DA, which is not to say that most or even many DA’s are out of control- but this one was. This story could happen to any of you on this board- black, white- and aren’t American’s first, where the innocent are innocent until proven otherwise, for crying out loud! The Duke high and mighty school officals tried these boys despite the facts, they weren’t allowed to play their sport this year, they have a permanent scar on their names, the DA refused to meet or speak with their attorneys and instead was too concerned about his own political aspirations. I wonder if the DA is rich? I wonder if he was thinking of lining his pockets during this whole mess? I wonder if the accuser was? SO which is worse? Havinf money or wanting to steal it or get it at all costs? These boys were lucky in that they had the means to defend themselves- and RIGHTFULLY SO. No one should down them for using their own money to defend a crime they didn’t commit- which is the real travesty here- not their financial status. The justice system failed these boys, they have been dealing with this for a year and have wasted, yes wasted, tens of thousands of dollars. We should all feel sorry for the innocent that are accused of rape, that have their school and communities and DA turn against them all the while listening to prominent leaders in the black communities call for their heads.

Posted by: Kate | April 14, 2007, 8:24 am 8:24 am

The Gang of 88 Humanities professors are legally culpable for intentionally harming their own students. The actions of these professors are as contemptible as those of any professor who intentionally assaults a student, and certainly their intentional assault of these students is actionable

Posted by: James D. Carmine | April 14, 2007, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Wow Terry,
I can’t believe that you and a lot of these other posters can pass judgement on these kid’s morality, “Whiteness”, or their family’s “Richness” when none of us knows them personally.
It’s not our place to pass judgement. It is our place to right wrongs no matter whether they are rich or poor. And yes, I do feel sorry for what these boys went through, but I also feel sorry for you and those who feel it is a crime to be wealthy, and therefore deserve no sympathy.

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 8:27 am 8:27 am

I can’t believe some of these comments on here. Who cares if these are white boys with money- that is not the point. Just because they go to an elite school and may have more money than the average joe doesn’t mean that they are suddenly more or less guilty or should or should not be pitied under specific circumstances. Anyone who doesn’t feel sorry for them should stop with the class envy. The problem with this entire case is that there is an out of control DA, which is not to say that most or even many DA’s are out of control- but this one was. This story could happen to any of you on this board- black, white- and aren’t we American’s first, where the innocent are innocent until proven otherwise, for crying out loud! The Duke high and mighty school officals tried these boys despite the facts, they weren’t allowed to play their sport this year, they have a permanent scar on their names, the DA refused to meet or speak with their attorneys and instead was too concerned about his own political aspirations. I wonder if the DA is rich? I wonder if he was thinking of lining his pockets during this whole mess? I wonder if the accuser was? SO which is worse? Having money or wanting to abtain it at all costs? These boys were lucky in that they had the means to defend themselves- and RIGHTFULLY SO. No one should down them for using their own money to defend a crime they didn’t commit- which is the real travesty here- not their financial status. The justice system failed these boys, they have been dealing with this for a year and have wasted, yes wasted, tens of thousands of dollars. We should all feel sorry for the innocent that are accused of rape, that have their school and communities and DA turn against them all the while listening to prominent leaders in the black communities call for their heads.

Posted by: Kate | April 14, 2007, 8:28 am 8:28 am

You are an idiot! Most undeniably!

Posted by: Mo | April 14, 2007, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Moran is an idiot. The enlightenment here is the corrupt legal system, and EVERYONE should be shaking in their boots.

Posted by: Anne | April 14, 2007, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Hum .. “They were a part of a team that hired strippers” …
and that’s one of the reasons we shouldn’t feel sorry for them ??
Are you getting paid for writing this ?

Posted by: Rick Eagle | April 14, 2007, 8:33 am 8:33 am

I reckon all those race-specific personals ads must be illegitimate, too.

Posted by: Brett | April 14, 2007, 8:33 am 8:33 am

You blithering moron. How can a “rape” of justice ever be justified?

Posted by: Incensed | April 14, 2007, 8:34 am 8:34 am

I guess as far as Terry is concerned,if Imus was black and had insulted a white “privileged” team of girls then it would be ok.

Posted by: JD | April 14, 2007, 8:35 am 8:35 am

I continue to marvel at the class hatred expressed by liberals. Their sense of right and wrong is always accompanied by a “Yeah, but…” This happens every time something like this happens. Why can’t you just SHUT UP and say, Well.. I’m glad they finally got justice? And here’s why you can’t… because you’re NOT glad they got justice. I heard several such people say on TV that it didn’t matter whether they were guilty or not – they were exploiting black women. Bottom line is that for liberals these guys were caught being white and rich. It wouldn’t matter to them if someone set them on fire. I am so sick of twisted liberal logic I could just scream.

Posted by: Hedley Lamar | April 14, 2007, 8:36 am 8:36 am

I am simply amazed at this vicious blog. I guess it’s okay to be racists and gender biased as long as the race is white and the gender is male. And why not discriminate against class too while we’re at it, just so long as the class is wealthy, it’s okay to attack…right? Simply amazing.
The three boys showed more humanity and wisdom than Mr. Moran.

Posted by: Marina | April 14, 2007, 8:36 am 8:36 am

So just because they hired strippers like every college man, we should not feel sorry for them? Were you one of those guys that hung out in the library in college? They were wrongly accused, their names and reputations were trashed, Duke’s reputation trashed, the head coach lost his job all because of some jackass prosecuter trying to win the black vote for his reelection.

Posted by: Chad | April 14, 2007, 8:37 am 8:37 am

I don’t get it. I agree the young men from Duke were lucky. They had the means to hire experienced lawyers, so what. The actions of the city who charged them and media who carried it should take look within, not to jump to conclusions on anything. However, in the zest to have higher ratings that print or release information that is not checked out. What if these young men were your sons? Where are all of the civil rights leader now?

Posted by: Dan | April 14, 2007, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Bob,
Underage Drinking, hiring strippers or going to a strip club is common is at colleges. Chances are that some of those women basketball player may have done some drinking in their lives or even seen a male stripper before. Have you ever seen what happens on spring break?

Posted by: JD | April 14, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am

Gee, that’s funny. I feel sorry for the many innocent Americans who every year are accused of crimes they didn’t commit. I feel sorry for them if they don’t come from money and sorry for them if they are middle class to upper middle class and all the way to rich. If you don’t feel sorry for EVERYONE in this situation, than you can’t possibly understand what it is like to be accused.

Posted by: Ali | April 14, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am

Don’t feel sorry for 3 young men railroaded by a DA lusting to be elected? It shouldn’t matter what family they came from, what color was their skin, what sex they were, which hand they write with, or any other distinction. They were abused by Nifong so he could be elected and be eligible for a life long pension.
Anytime someone is abused by the system, there must be retribution.

Posted by: Bob Burley | April 14, 2007, 8:42 am 8:42 am

And every one of you who references the victims’ wealth as a reason not to be outraged by their treatment–you are outrageous, and *no one’s* rights are safe with you. One must defend the rights of all if one expects reciprocity.
It’s unbelievable how cluelessly some people parade their bigotry for all to see so that decent people may easily dismiss their opinions. The postwar generations have in no way eschewed the bigotry of their forebears. They just fancy they have

Posted by: Brett | April 14, 2007, 8:43 am 8:43 am

The media jumps to a conclusion,
and then, when proven wrong, they
print excuses as a defense.
The entire media circus was genereate without ANY facts. Pure assumption. Where are the statements of apology from media?

Posted by: chuck | April 14, 2007, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Terry,
I’ll pray for you. You don’t believe in justice. You believe in social policies trumping the rights of individuals. You and the individuals who believe this are the real danger to our rights. Please consider another line of work. You could easily be a propagandist for the racial inequality branch of the democract party. Oh, wait, that is what you really are. You are more interested in weaving racial and wealth envy issues into this issue that you can’t see the real threat to everyone’s freedom. Keep drinking your kool aid!!

Posted by: Scott | April 14, 2007, 8:44 am 8:44 am

The party was intended to be PRIVATE, and we should have never even known about it but for the false accusation of the prostitute. I never realized that Mran was off the left edhe and really not that bright.

Posted by: Dan | April 14, 2007, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Terry Morgan’s comments reveal his true bias and liberal views. Rather than focusing on the facts in the case, he seeks to exploit his own political and personal agenda in the article. This is a prime example of why the major networks are losing their customer base.

Posted by: AMS | April 14, 2007, 8:46 am 8:46 am

I N N O C E N T!!!!!!
Attorney General Cooper did not even say “not guilty”, but innocent. Stick to the facts, Moron. Nothing worse than a agenda driven, hate filled liberal who cannot admit he has egg on his face.

Posted by: EC | April 14, 2007, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Really an absolutely unbelievable article. What were you seriously thinking about? And you were picked by ABC to fill Ted Koppel’s shoes? I would suggest claiming temporary insanity then asking for some time off, which ABC should wilingly grant, for rehab.

Posted by: Dick | April 14, 2007, 8:50 am 8:50 am

I cheer for the Duke players and support any lawsuit they initiate against Nifong et al.

Posted by: Bruce Davidson | April 14, 2007, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Feel sorry the players? Sure I do. Combine an out-of-control democrat prosecutor in the midst of an election with all the titillation over the rich white kids raping the black girl: Media feeding frenzy. Terry Moran, like most of the MSM scribes are characterless swine.

Posted by: Schratboy | April 14, 2007, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Facing thirty years in prsion and you say don’t feel to siorry for them
I feel sorry for you, you have no intelligence

Posted by: Danny O'Dell | April 14, 2007, 8:51 am 8:51 am

I think those boys made the point that they were very fortunate to have the resources to fight this. There real bad guy here is the black/liberal power structure of Durham. Nigong was stupid enough to do their bidding and now they’ve either ignored him or thrown him under the bus. He must feel like the biggest chump in the world.
All Moran is doing here is reminding us of their real crime; they’re white and they’re rich!

Posted by: Greg Dail | April 14, 2007, 8:52 am 8:52 am

I just wonder how you would feel, going to sleep every night for a year, wondering if you were going to jail for a crime you did not commit. Your comments are a sad commentary on humanity , and the lack of compassion that exists in our world. Shame on you !

Posted by: Joe | April 14, 2007, 8:54 am 8:54 am

This logic is so flawed that only a liberal or an academic would believe it.

Posted by: Al | April 14, 2007, 8:55 am 8:55 am

You decided whether or not somebody should receive sympathy based entirely on their race and economic status. You are truly myopic. You are upset because there is no real-world vindication of your “rich whites as predators” liberal media mindset.
You came so close here, with it appearing that a gang of rich White jocks gang raped a young Black lady. Perhaps the party that truly deserves sympathy in this case are the myopic media types who got made fools of.

Posted by: Matt Parrott | April 14, 2007, 9:00 am 9:00 am

You are a moron. An intellectually lazy liberal, which is what liberalism is, and devoid of any common sense. You better hope you never get falsely charged for a felony.

Posted by: HDavis | April 14, 2007, 9:01 am 9:01 am

once you divorce yourself from the media (LIBERAL!), you never have to face facts about anything. any lie that bush tells you you can pretend to believe. and then quietly go away and horde cash. all of this is about the guilt you secretly know about capitalism. that it is profoundly unfair. but fight, scream, yell, to protect your undeserved dollars. one day your daughter’s car may be carjacked by one of those you have disenfranchized, and she may be killed. then how will you feel about capitalism and “starving the beast” and the darwinianism of america?
sa

Posted by: sa | April 14, 2007, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Let’s see. The accused were 1) white; 2) male; 3) rich & privilaged. They didn’t committ a rape, but they paid two girls to strip, called them names, and oh yeah, one of the accused was involved in an incident somewhere else, some other time. Because of this, we the people should not feel any compassion for these men?
Instead, how about this. I feel compassion for these men. I feel anger towards the DA. He rode this prosecution to re-election. He should serve the time they would have served had he been able to gain a conviction against them. Maybe future prosecutors would take their responsibilities more seriously after that. He should loose his licence. The accuser, who made up the entire thing, should suffer the same punishment. She should serve the time she was willing to put these innocent men behind bars for.
The media. Wow. I think I have it. We should not feel compassion for these innocent’s, because there are a lot of other innocent’s that they, the media, do not cover. And this second group are poor and of dark skin. Oh yeah, there is the problem of what to do with the media that on their editorial pages or with their biased stories, convicted these men. Too many of these outlets chose to not report the facts, but to insert opinions about guilt or innocence based upon the race issue. Or the privilage issue.
Scorecard. Reputations destroyed. Jobs lost. Lives turned upside down. But let’s not have compassion for the innocent.

Posted by: chas | April 14, 2007, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Let’s see. The accused were 1) white; 2) male; 3) rich & privilaged. They didn’t committ a rape, but they paid two girls to strip, called them names, and oh yeah, one of the accused was involved in an incident somewhere else, some other time. Because of this, we the people should not feel any compassion for these men?
Instead, how about this. I feel compassion for these men. I feel anger towards the DA. He rode this prosecution to re-election. He should serve the time they would have served had he been able to gain a conviction against them. Maybe future prosecutors would take their responsibilities more seriously after that. He should loose his licence. The accuser, who made up the entire thing, should suffer the same punishment. She should serve the time she was willing to put these innocent men behind bars for.
The media. Wow. I think I have it. We should not feel compassion for these innocent’s, because there are a lot of other innocent’s that they, the media, do not cover. And this second group are poor and of dark skin. Oh yeah, there is the problem of what to do with the media that on their editorial pages or with their biased stories, convicted these men. Too many of these outlets chose to not report the facts, but to insert opinions about guilt or innocence based upon the race issue. Or the privilage issue.
Scorecard. Reputations destroyed. Jobs lost. Lives turned upside down. But let’s not have compassion for the innocent.

Posted by: chas | April 14, 2007, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Unbelievable.
The media should be begging for forgiveness with how they acted during this story – condemning these boys without a trial and not waiting for a scintilla of evidence.
Instead, Terry, you keep up the attack, perhaps to justify your lazy race-baiting “journalism”.
Imus has been fired. I ask ABC to fire you, because you are offensive to me, and owe all of us, and especially the 3 Duke boys, a huge apology.
Tom.

Posted by: Tom Johnson | April 14, 2007, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Some of you need therapy. Do you speak like this to your families, friends, and co-workers?

Posted by: hurricanewarningdc | April 14, 2007, 9:04 am 9:04 am

You’re crazy. Nobody, black or white, rich or poor, shoujld habe to go through what these boys went through. I’m a Catholic and deplore the boys’ behavior on the night of the alleged incident – but what they did wasn’t illegal and should not have subjected them to fabricated rape charges. Where do you draw the line – are you guilty of no transgressions? Should your sins subject you to such horrible treatment. Get off your moral high horse.

Posted by: kevinOates | April 14, 2007, 9:07 am 9:07 am

they were wrongfully accused and should be left alone at this point. it seems ridiculous to me you feel the need to again disparage the duke players in any way. i guess the outcome of this case was too disappointing for you.

Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2007, 9:07 am 9:07 am

You SAY there are thousands of cases of prosecutorial misconduct each year. If you know that, why aren’t you exposing them?
Oh, that’s right, you said, “Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both.”
And you have the nerve to slight the inocent victims of a lie because you don’t like their station in life! What hypocracy! What a fake crusader you are!

Posted by: B | April 14, 2007, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Incredible. The boys did what college guys do (not defending – but not condeming either). Not just the prosecutor, but their school, their community, and the media all jumped with both feet on these boys case because of the social envy displayed by this idiot commentator.
How many football players in poorer schools have DUIs, domestic abuse cases, and theft charges swept under the rug so they can keep winning games?
What bearing does that have on the Duke case? NONE! Because you judge cases on the merits of the facts and the validity of the criminal charge – not on your class envy.

Posted by: George B | April 14, 2007, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Terry Moron and is ilk are just as complicit as Nifong, the lying accuser, and Duke University in railroading these innocent young men. It’s not suprising that this gutless, no-talent hack is now trying to minimize his own part in this travesty by claiming “no harm, no foul”. “Drive-by media” indeed…

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2007, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Terry Moron, what a liberal piece of crap. How can you even sleep at night? Walking the party line. Terry, what causes a man to become like you? I am truly sad for you.

Posted by: Danny | April 14, 2007, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Yet another class warrior in action….blame the victim taken to a new level….Maybe Terry missed it but the Attorney General actually said these boys were innocent. When is the Durham Dirtbag going to be charged with filing a false police report. Moran should be investigated.

Posted by: Tom W | April 14, 2007, 9:12 am 9:12 am

I feel sorry for us, that the US news angencies suck so badly.

Posted by: John Wright | April 14, 2007, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Terry, this is ridiculous. What does a charge in 2005 have to do with anything?
And what about all of the fraternities and other groups on college campuses all over the coutnry who hire strippers?
Mike Nifong tried to screw these guys over for his own benefit. They should sue him and the state of North Carolina.
And, if the accuser is sane, they should sue her too.

Posted by: Larry J | April 14, 2007, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Mr. Moran, your comments defy logic. These guys were accused of RAPE and KIDNAPPING, not hiring strippers or being bad, immoral, people.
Thank goodness their parents had the means to defend from the hi-tech lynching Nifong, the left wing kooks at Duke, the Durham communcity activists, the race baiters, and the media had prepared for them. Trust me, had no one been watching, I am sure that you, along with all of the other “hater” out there, those three would have been strung up from one of the trees on the Duke campus.
Innocent is innocent. You should be all the 88 whacked out professors that had the kids “guilty for being white”, the role of the media in tarring and feathering these guys, the motives of the race hustlers, and the, of course, how the prosecutor was able to perpetrate such a fraud with the so many “media hacks” camping outside of his office.
Do your job . . . report and let us decide (opps, that is the motto of the network THAT I WATCH EVERY NIGHT).

Posted by: Mark Word | April 14, 2007, 9:15 am 9:15 am

It’s because of idiots like Mr. Moran that I don’t watch ABC News. I’m sure that every parent of a Duke student has an extra million dollars lying around for legal fees. Just because these kids go to Duke doesn’t automatically make their parents exorbitantly wealthy.
And just because Mr. Finnerty was charged with assault means that whatever injustice comes his way is deserved? Terry Moran, your last name should be Moron. What an unbelievably stupid diatribe!

Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2007, 9:15 am 9:15 am

This is an awfully scathing indictment of you Terry Moran.
I highly doubt that all these people have an incorrect opinion of you and your view of what happened to the duke players.
appears that you shoud apologize to abc and your readers/viewers.

Posted by: LIA | April 14, 2007, 9:15 am 9:15 am

How do you know if these men come from priviliged families or not. Just because they attended Duke by no means proves their families status. Ever hear of financial aide? Scholorships? Student Loans? My God it is an other rush to judgement. To compare the lifes of these men to the Rutgars female basketball team is also another insult to the girls. Face it you do not know the backgrounds of any of these people. To assume that four white men who attended Duke must be well off and well connected and then to assume that 8 black women & 2 white women must have had a rough time in life because of sex, race & color is just wrong!

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Mr. Moran, your comments defy logic. These guys were accused of RAPE and KIDNAPPING, not hiring strippers or being bad, immoral, people.
Thank goodness their parents had the means to defend from the hi-tech lynching Nifong, the left wing kooks at Duke, the Durham communcity activists, the race baiters, and the media had prepared for them. Trust me, had no one been watching, I am sure that you, along with all of the other “hater” out there, those three would have been strung up from one of the trees on the Duke campus.
Innocent is innocent. You should be all the 88 whacked out professors that had the kids “guilty for being white”, the role of the media in tarring and feathering these guys, the motives of the race hustlers, and the, of course, how the prosecutor was able to perpetrate such a fraud with the so many “media hacks” camping outside of his office.
Do your job . . . report and let us decide (opps, that is the motto of the network THAT I WATCH EVERY NIGHT).

Posted by: Justice Forall | April 14, 2007, 9:17 am 9:17 am

How do you know if these men come from priviliged families or not. Just because they attended Duke by no means proves their families status. Ever hear of financial aide? Scholorships? Student Loans? My God it is an other rush to judgement. To compare the lifes of these men to the Rutgars female basketball team is also another insult to the girls. Face it you do not know the backgrounds of any of these people. To assume that four white men who attended Duke must be well off and well connected and then to assume that 8 black women & 2 white women must have had a rough time in life because of sex, race & color is just wrong!

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Articles like this is why I refuse to watch the ABC(Anything But Correct) network.

Posted by: Jerry | April 14, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am

The liberal media, you gotta love them. How quickly they forget people like O.J. or Michael Jackson buying their way out of trouble.

Posted by: Tuba | April 14, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am

His piece about the “Dookies” was one of the most prejudiced and divisive things I have read from a supposedly objective journalist. It was not journalism, it was an elitist, New York, liberal cocktail party, point of view. Journalists in New York and at ABC in particular need to get out of the self-congratulatory, narcissistic bubble. Anyone who so clearly has such a prejudiced point of view in his heart cannot objectively present the “news.” He displayed such a biased point of view about race, class and, most of all, common fairness that he will never, ever be trusted by millions of good, centrist Americans. Also, he was just plain dumb and superficial in several of his assertions.
ABC needs to let him go out of its own self interest. His arrogance and divisive attitude is repugnant to concepts of journalistic fairness and impugns the integrity and reputation of all ABC stations. He belongs in the world of political partisianship and advocacy, and it is a false pretense to call him a journalist any more. I bet, however, that the bosses in the inbred mainstream media will once again simply “circle the wagons,” congratulate him on being provocative and hope that this blows over and that more viewers will not switch over to cable.
You should know that a high percentage of the public simply does not trust journalists to be objective at the three major networks, and, to me, this article epitomizes the reason. However, I suspect that the top people at ABC who read Moran’s article just wont get it, and therein lies the problem. They are just out of touch with America.

Posted by: Samuel | April 14, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Your comments are ridiculous. All the cases that target people unable to afford the resources to defend themselves would be getting no ink (from you or anyone else) if not for this case. That’s the point made by Reade Seligman in the press conference. Your class envy has so blinded you that you have lost the lesson that must be learned from this case.

Posted by: Bob C. | April 14, 2007, 9:22 am 9:22 am

I guess the new definition of Rich is if you can afford legal representation. Oh and its OK tofalsely accuse someone of one of the most stigmatizing crimes and paint it as a racial episode simply because their parents worked hard, were smart and earned a good living. Basically lived the american dream.

Posted by: michael | April 14, 2007, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Let us not assassinate these lads further, Mr. Moran. You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

Posted by: Dan | April 14, 2007, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Lets be honest. The real crime here is that these guys are white, come from successful families and all three of them are male. They are in that special class of citizens who no longer are granted equal treatment by the courts, the media and many of their fellow citizens. Of course, although it is not being talked about, I suspect that they might even be … Republicans. The facts speak for themselves. Clearly these guys should be made examples of, no matter what the specifics of the case. A lifetime of ruined reputations (see most of the above comments to preview what they will have to deal with)is probably not enough punishment for being in the wrong class in America.

Posted by: drdrano | April 14, 2007, 9:24 am 9:24 am

You are ridiculously arrogant, ignorant and foolish. I guess in your mind it would have been better it they had been poor without lawyers and they convicted on false charges. Look no one is making these guys out to be the embodiment of virtue. but come on – Nifong was trying to hang them to further his own political future. No wonder people think the mainstream media is biased

Posted by: Steve H | April 14, 2007, 9:26 am 9:26 am

There are many “privileged classes” in America today.
But they certainly aren’t white ,christen, heterosexual males, at least not by virtue of those attributes.

Posted by: Michael Montaina | April 14, 2007, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Only a flaming bleeding heart liberal could possibly come to such a conclusion. Pray that you, as a white boy, never get wrongly accused of rape and criticized for having a few bucks because your or your parents worked hard and became successful. God! What awful reverse discrimination. Up yours buddy!

Posted by: gary | April 14, 2007, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Terry Moran is a disgrace.

Posted by: disgusted | April 14, 2007, 9:31 am 9:31 am

You’re an ass Terry. Liek you don’t live the papmpered existence of a self centered, self-righteous, pompous liberal elite on a daily basis?? And you have the audacity to atatck these kids for their backgrounds? Or becuase college guys actually watched a stripper, who advertisese her services?? Please, when are you uber liberal media types going to drop the ongoing hypocrisy and double standards you use daily. Belive me, its not like most of us out here in the audience don’t notice it Ever think that’s why the ratings and credibility of all the networks is at all time lows?? No, you probably haven’t ever considered that, its too obvious, but doesn’t fit into your mind set of how things “are”. Ass.

Posted by: OFSound Mind | April 14, 2007, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Golly Gee Willikers These college kids drank beer, had a party, and watched strippers. Maybe we should just go ahead and kill them for their crimes against humanity. If the reporter of this blog had studied harder, maybe he too could have gone to a good school.
Ed Owen Memphis Tennessee

Posted by: Ed Owen | April 14, 2007, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Only a flaming bleeding heart liberal could possibly come to such a conclusion. Pray that you, as a white boy, never get wrongly accused of rape by a black woman and criticized for having a few bucks because you or your parents worked hard and became successful. God, you are disgusting with your arrogance to plainly try to engineer a case of reverse discrimination against these men. Up yours buddy!

Posted by: gary | April 14, 2007, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Mr. Moran, you’re pathetic.
Using your logic, you shouldn’t feel sorry for an innocent street kid who got picked up using a racial profile since “he probably tried drugs at some point anyway”.
Perhaps after being recklessly charged by a politically inspired DA and forced to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars of *YOUR* money to defend yourself against FALSE CHARGES, you would change your mind.

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Well you got attention. I hope that it the reason that you wrote such a silly, provocative article. My only hope is that you realize that throwing stones in the waters to watch the waves can hurt some of the people swimming in the pond.
I will give you the presumption of innocence (something the gentlemen in this case never received). I can only hope that you wrote the article to spark some debate over class/race issues; I should hope that you would not be foolish enough to believe that any person should go through a year of hell for hiring a stripper.
However, you fail because you make the mistake that the self righteous have made forever. This case is simply about one bad man, the prosecuter in the case, harming three innocent people for his own purposes. Ponder for a moment if the term reporter was be inserted in place of prosecuter in the previous sentence?

Posted by: Ernie | April 14, 2007, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Mr. Moran, you’re pathetic.
Using your logic, you shouldn’t feel sorry for an innocent street kid who got picked up using a racial profile since “he probably tried drugs at some point anyway”.
Perhaps after being recklessly charged by a politically inspired DA and forced to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars of *YOUR* money to defend yourself against FALSE CHARGES, you would change your mind.

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Terry Moran, you are a complete moron.

Posted by: Perry | April 14, 2007, 9:35 am 9:35 am

I am frankly dismayed that expressing an opinon in America in 2007 elicits responses that use words like “moron,” and “idiot,’ as well as how quickly “liberal” and “conservative” orientations are referenced as a meas of discrediting and/or attacking an opinion. Have we forgotten that the priviledges that we have in this country are not only based on freedom to do and say as we wish, but freedom to act and communicate responsibly and (hopefully) with the highest level of regard for our fellow human beings. Not sure that I have seen a whole lot of this in many of the posts connected to Mr. Moran’s article. Now–for my own opinion…. Although I believe in the US justice system, clearly those who can afford private counsel tend to fare better than those who cannot. For instnce, OJ and Kobe seem to have fared pretty well within the justice system regardless of the color of their skin. If the Duke boys’ parents were able to afford the best counsel for their children (as any parent would), and the justice system has deemed them to be not guilty of commiting any legal wrong doing, so be it. Until we find a way to afford everyone in America the best legal counsel possible (which would be my fondest wish), the legal system that we have is the legal system that we live with. As I noted earllier, it is still a pretty darned good system in many other respects. A separate point, however, is whether these boys acted responsibly. Excusing these boys’ actions (underage drinking, hiring a stripper, etc.), from a perspective that “boys will be boys,” this is how other “college men” behave in America, other (men) have been behaving like this since the beginning of time, seems to be excusing the need and expectation to act responsibly in America. I am not really sure that we should be doing this, as my hope is that we raise all of our young men and women, regardless of color and social class, to be as responsible and honorable as possible in all that they say or do. Our country’s future and maintaining the values set forth by our Constitution depends on this. The Duke boys may have been deemed as not guilty of committing a crime, but they acted irresponsibly and have (sadly) learned a difficult lesson. They should go home, rebuild their lives, and try harder to do behave honorably and responsibly in the future.

Posted by: FFE | April 14, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am

You speak of the wide press coverage of the case as having been a benefit to these men when just the opposite is true. The New York Times even stated flatly that , Based on eveidence that the Times had seen , these men were in facy guilty. The publicity given the woman’s accusations will leave doubt any many paople’s minds as to what happened for ever.
How do you know what the players did on the that night.

Posted by: john caldwell | April 14, 2007, 9:37 am 9:37 am

I disagree with many other posters on this board. There is merit in this editorial.
You are absolutely right that there are many cases of presecutorial misconduct that go unreported by the media each year in this country.
The most amazing thing about this is that you are a reporter, Mr Moran. You are part of the organization that decides what gets covered.
Instead of taking the time to further tell us, your readers, the public how we should feel, why don’t you start covering those tragic cases you elude to? Start showing us the tragedy.
You are absolutely right. Now start doing your job.

Posted by: C Woods | April 14, 2007, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Look what I found after a little google action, an indescretion of his own.
“My boyfriend and I saw ABC anchor Terry Moran having a drink at Dragonfly last Wednesday [11/9] around midnight. I was going to approach him to say hello (and ask “Why is Nightline still on the air?”) but he was soon met by a very young, very attractive brunette. They were laughing and talking like they knew each other pretty well. Did I mention she was young? They left together after about 20 minutes.”
You are married, right Mr. Moran?
Something tells me you shouldn’t be passing judgement on other’s moral actions.
wonkette.com/politics/wonk.d/wonkd-yglesias-dont-play-that-215687.php

Posted by: STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS | April 14, 2007, 9:38 am 9:38 am

What a pathetic bit of writing, absolutely off the mark. Terry Moran has gone around the bend so to speak. ABC must mean “Absolute Bull Crap”.

Posted by: Tom | April 14, 2007, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Now we understand why so many of your colleagues call you Fairy Moron. The fact that their behavior was bad never justifies being falsely accused…EVER. Your perpetuation of this warped view of justice is bad for the poor blacks you claim to defend in your article, rich whites, the middle class…EVERYONE!

Posted by: Skip | April 14, 2007, 9:39 am 9:39 am

you sir are a moron. you think that just because these kids come from affluence they dont deserve justice?!?! they were lucky and they made this known at their press conference you tit head!!! i could say i was surprised reading your article but after looking at your picture i can tell your white trash like Nifong so that reaction dissapated quickly. see people…. this is what happens your mother fucks her brother and has a child….. you get a retard writing a blog for abcnews. go kill yourself.

Posted by: mike scott | April 14, 2007, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Mr Moron,(mis-spelling intended)
I hope you, a rich white guy, get falsely accused of rape of a black woman, that a prosecutor splashes your name all over the world for a year……..and that you get railroaded by an activist prosecutor and condemned to life in prison. This will compensate for one of those miscarriages of justice you allege are taking place all over America. …. better still, it should happen to a child of yours! You sick moron!

Posted by: E. R. | April 14, 2007, 9:41 am 9:41 am

No argument that cases of prosecutorial misconduct occur in our country every day. No argument that generally based on economic lines, and it’s undetected for the most part. No argument that MOST victims of this misconduct are minorities. Those facts aside, wrong is wrong. Yes we must work harder to address prosecutorial misconduct within our judicial system, however that doesn’t in any way change the fact that these three young men were publically tried and convicted in the media for over a year. Their faces plastered over the internet and newspapers countless times. Their names becoming synonomous with rape and racist hate. They were innocent and their lives HAVE been drug through the mud. Thank god that they didn’t serve time. Yes others have served time wrongly. Just because they may seem to have lives that are more privileged does not mean that it’s any more right to crucify them in the court of public opinion. I feel for them and their families just as I do EVERY person wrongly accused in our country. Just because someone has some degree of wealth doesn’t make their victimization ok verses the person who is less well off economically. Victimization is wrong period. Regardless of race, social standing, or economic means. It’s abhorrent to say that these three boys, who were openly comdemned for so long, aren’t deserving of some compassion or sympathy because of their financial means. It would be equally abhorrent to say that those of little financial means matter less because they are less productive members of society, therefore their wrong convictions shouldn’t matter as much to the American public. You can’t use class or finanical privileged as a touchstone to disregard anyone — not the well to do nor the poor. Wrong is wrong period.

Posted by: Caroline | April 14, 2007, 9:41 am 9:41 am

The Duke Lacrosse story is telling in more ways than identifying that a few white families can shell out loads of money to buy there children a first class defence. It opens your eyes to the fact that the majority of blacks and self hating white people (main stream media in particular) view justice as white people going to jail for crimes that they do not commit so that they can have the “African American” experience. Or the flip side of that coin…blacks cheering in the streets when a black man gets away with the murder of a white person i.e. OJ. Many people in the black community didn’t really believe that OJ was innocent…they just wanted to see him win the trial for black people. I think its time that black community leaders start doing some critical community assesment. Getting “even” is not going to make any advances in solving the social problems facing blacks in America today.
“The conduct of the lacrosse team of which they were members was not admirable on the night of the incident, to say the least.”
The fact is there was NO INCIDENT. Drunk college guys getting a stripper… Is that entirely surpising?

Posted by: Rob | April 14, 2007, 9:42 am 9:42 am

I have to admit, a lot of what he says is true. These guys brought a lot of this on themselves. We like to try to deny that, but it’s about the same as wearing a tight blouse and hot pants to a rap concert, and then complaining about getting groped by a drunk.
Yea, that shouldn’t have happened too!
What really bothers me about this though is that the worse thing that can happen to Nifong is disbarment. We should be able to prosecute people who abuse civil rights like this. Mark Furman comes to mind. Not only did he abuse OJ’s civil rights but destroyed the people’s case against a vicious killer. He lost his job, and made a fortune on talk shows and selling books.
Watch for Nifong’s book. It will probably be a best seller.

Posted by: Phil Bickel | April 14, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Well Terry, you imply these 3 young men yelled racial remarks at the stripper. Are you sure these 3 did it or was it someone else on the them, OR were they just playing gangsta rap and the strippers thought the team was yelling the racial remarks but it was actually the blacks on the cd! Either way, in your eyes they are guilty because they are rich? And you probably think OJ was innocent too? Wait, he had money and went back to his comfortable life…so maybe you think he was guilty. Now Yes, these guys were stupid in their college actions and were asking for trouble. But from a legal standpoint – the people who should be apologizing now are a) the stripper who should be exposed now b) jesse jackson and al sharpton for hanging their reputation on the accusations of a stripper they’ve never met because they want to go after some rich white boys and c) the d.a. for being an idiot and wanting to create his own legacy and fame, and d) people like you who cannot separate justice from wealth and a hatred for the justice system when it goes against your opinion. I’m glad you were around when the founding fathers started this country. If you had been a part of that, you would have never had the chance today to voice your own opinion and this country would be poor because rich people would need to leave because they were guilty of being rich.

Posted by: joe citizen | April 14, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Terry Moron is trying to be a shock journalist. How else can you explain such a stupid piece of “journalism”. No one is that ignorant.
Nice try Terry.
And yes I agree ABC needs to get rid of this guy
He would be a better fit for NBC, anyway.

Posted by: DK | April 14, 2007, 9:51 am 9:51 am

It’s shocking that someone who thinks like this is supposedly reporting the news in an unbiased manner. ABC, do the right thing. Until then, I’ll watch someone else.

Posted by: bob | April 14, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

If the 3 men were not “rich” and able to fend off the accusations, where would they be?
Probably in jail.
It is amazing how many people are spiteful towards others that have worked hard and earned their money.

Posted by: ted | April 14, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

You write that these Duke players were able to “retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists” because they’re white, rich, and privileged. Did it ever occur to you that they might not even have been charged with this non-crime, or had to hire media strategists, if not for you and your liberal colleagues’ assumption that they were guilty precisely because they’re white, rich, and privileged? Do you think they would now be getting “high-profile, high-minded vindication” if not for the media’s high-profile, high-minded vilification of these innocent young men?
It strikes me as “just a bit unseemly to heap” negative media attention on these players for months, and then whine about the sympathy they’re finally receiving.
“They are young men who were victimized by a reckless” media–”and had the resources to fight them off.”
You sound like a hypocritical bigot.

Posted by: Kathy | April 14, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

It sounds to me that you are a friend of the DA in Durham. Just because you have a means to defend yourself isn’t a reason to have someone have less feeling for you when you have been wronged.

Posted by: Robert W Jones | April 14, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am

It’s shocking that someone who thinks like this is supposedly reporting the news in an unbiased manner. ABC, do the right thing. Until then, I’ll watch someone else.

Posted by: bob | April 14, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Heck if you ask me…the boys were supporting the community by pumping 800 dollars into the local ecomomy.

Posted by: Rob | April 14, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

If the 3 men were not “rich” and able to fend off the accusations, where would they be?
Probably in jail.
It is amazing how many people are spiteful towards others that have worked hard and earned their money.

Posted by: ted | April 14, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Terry,
You say that we should not feel sorry for them because they have money and hired attorneys. You also say that they hired a stripper. OK, isn’t that legal? This is not about judging people for acting like young men, which is their right to do so. This is about the LAW. These men did not rape that girl. They WILL NOT go on to have normal lives. The only reason they got justice is because they could hire expensive attorneys. They had no choice. That stripper made a choice to be a stripper. She doesn’t have to worry about losing creditbility in her line of work. You sound like you are mad, because these young men did not get convicted of a crime they did not do. What do you want Terry? Do you want them found guilt of being from a rich family, and being white? If so, they are guilty. You have no right to judge people for their status, and you have no idea what these young men went through.

Posted by: Tony | April 14, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

You have no head and no heart. Anyone falsely accused of rape deserves our sympathy. You are a foolish and silly man.

Posted by: Arthur | April 14, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Fire Moran. What an idiot.

Posted by: Bill S | April 14, 2007, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Terry Moran conveniently leaves out the fact that the boys not only had to fight off Nifong, but also the liberal media hacks (like himself) eager to exploit any type of race bating, class envy story.
As for the boy’s unseemly behavior? I’d love to go back to the 90s and read any of Moran’s comments on the Clinton Presidency. I’m willing to bet he employed every form of contorted logic to explain away Clinton’s outrageous behavior.

Posted by: Franz Kabelka | April 14, 2007, 9:57 am 9:57 am

I am speechless. This isn’t about privilege, it’s about justice. And yes, it should be alarming that had these kids been from less affluent family’s, they’d be sitting in jail now. It should frighten the socks off of us that one prosecutor had so much power and so many weenies working for him that he would have gotten away with railroading them. Frankly, we should be grateful that this happened because it showed the ugle underbelly of power run amok. I haven’t heard any praise these guys at all. And someone worked for all that money that was thrown away on the defense for over a year. So don’t vent your liberal guilt about rich kids.

Posted by: Jane | April 14, 2007, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Wow, you must be really sad that the reason for you and others to continue slandering Finnerty and his teammates has finally come to an end. Or I guess for you, it hasn’t. So Finnerty was “charged” with assault. Was he convicted? Worse still, comparing what these falsely accused men went through over many months to one misguided comment from a fringe talk-show host is absurd. The lack of shame and conscience self-righteous punks like you have amazes and sickens me. Finally, companies like NBC, CBS and ABC are much more responsible for the sickening denigration of women (and especially black womren) in American than Don Imus. If you truly have any convictions about that, maybe you should quit ABC.

Posted by: Brown | April 14, 2007, 9:59 am 9:59 am

This article is further evidence of why the mainstream media is going down the tubes! This is nothing less than an attempt to re-vilify INNOCENT young men. What if one of the accused was your brother or son or YOU, falsely accused, persecuted (not “prosecuted”) by an exploitative attorney, and then dragged through the circus that the courts and media have become? This article captures the activist media doing what it does best. Some WANTED these guys to be guilty, they HOPED they would be found guilty, they LONGED for them to be found guilty. This isn’t justice; it’s the modern equivalent of being burned at the stake!
Sure, hiring strippers is wrong, but it’s only part of the equation: if it is wrong to buy those services, is it no less wrong to sell those services? While it is wrong, it IS legal and happens, no doubt, hundreds of times a day in our country.
The accused requested one white stripper? And that makes the accused (or the strippers) better . . . worse . . . what? At least they can’t be accused of violating EEOC regulations.
Sure, it’s wrong to use racial epithets, but try NOT hearing them constantly in some of the music from our culture.
Colin Finnerty was charged with assault, but you conveniently leave out the fact that the case was never adjudicated in an obvious attempt to manipulate public opinion. The double-standard evident is palpable! To follow your logic, I suppose the courts should have found these students guilty to “make up” for errors elsewhere in the judicial system. That isn’t the way ANY justice system should work. This justice-logic is what our democracy was SUPPOSED to be designed protect us from! If the judicial system doesn’t work for some, then it doesn’t work for all.
You state that these young men got both “negative — and positive” treatment from the judical system. Where is the positive in having been falsely accused and falsely prosecuted and having this in your past? Where’s the positive in having exculpatory evidence withheld by the prosecution? Where’s the positive in having your name permanently attached to the term “rape?” Where is the positive in wrongly having lost jobs, sports teams, and positions at universities? The only positive I see in this travesty is that the accuser was revealed to be the liar she is and always has been and Nifong was revealed to be the WORST kind attorney there is: a political, self-promoting hustler-hack who should be disbarred for contributing mightily to the sterotype of attorneys as “victim”-chasing shake-down artists.

Posted by: Duke | April 14, 2007, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Change your last name to moron for continuing to spew out this class warfare crap. Comparing a bone-headed comment made on-air to false rape allegations and malicious prosecution is insane.
It is folks like you that give race warlords Sharpton and Jackson steam to keep their mugs in the media.

Posted by: Jay | April 14, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

I think you are a bunch of stupid whiners.
Innocent, means they did not do it. Not “not guilty” it was Innocent. So now you whining cry baby are upset because they did not get treated like black men ?
You are as racist as Don Imus, and this report is clearly showing his liberal bias to people of money.
As for their behavior, anyone ever watch Desperate housewife ???????
Wonder where they learn their behaviour
Quit whining babies. All men are created equal and I am sure with weakminded reporters as this one, we could find something bad about you also.
This guy should be the first to be sued by these young men. Reporting how bad they are after being found innocent is just stupid liberal bias.

Posted by: Tim | April 14, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

I would feel sorry for ANY student who had to undergo the treatment that these young men had to go through! Why stop the outpouring of support for these young people who have had their lives turned upside down for the last couple of years. This type of article is effectively attacking them all over again.
While the team held a party that many complain against, remember that at least one of these boys left that party and has documented proof of that. Isn’t that the type of action most would like to see?
Are you sure that these kids are all rich, or did their parents take out additional mortgages on their home, like most parents would do, to ensure that the truth came out?
This article is full of stereotypes and class warfare. I would really like to find a news source that did not engage in such lowly character assasination, especially when used against victims of false reporting.

Posted by: mike | April 14, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Not feel sorry for them? Where is Twain’s Edward Tudor to command you to pray that God give you a heart?
I will agree that there are many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across the country. The blame for the lack of reporting on this belongs to you in the media, however. It’s your job to correct it.
I was once in a jury pool where it was obvious in the jury interviews that the prosecutor was out of control. Until the state is made to bear responsibility and cost for this type of activity, it’s not going to stop. Until the media starts reporting it, the public won’t demand it.
You are irresponsible in casting any aspersions on the Duke players in this. Do your job – start making prosecutorial abuse a real priority in your reporting. It won’t be hard to find cases to report.

Posted by: Michael Satterwhite | April 14, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

I would feel sorry for ANY student who had to undergo the treatment that these young men had to go through! Why stop the outpouring of support for these young people who have had their lives turned upside down for the last couple of years. This type of article is effectively attacking them all over again.
While the team held a party that many complain against, remember that at least one of these boys left that party and has documented proof of that. Isn’t that the type of action most would like to see?
Are you sure that these kids are all rich, or did their parents take out additional mortgages on their home, like most parents would do, to ensure that the truth came out?
This article is full of stereotypes and class warfare. I would really like to find a news source that did not engage in such lowly character assasination, especially when used against victims of false reporting.

Posted by: mike | April 14, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Amen Mr. Moran! You had the guts to say what no other reporters would say. These students were no innocents and I appreciate you candor. I respect you for telling it like it is.

Posted by: babygreens | April 14, 2007, 10:07 am 10:07 am

We definitely should feel sorry for how that Durham Dirtbag stripper tried ruining there lives. What I want to know is why hasn’t she been arrested and thrown in jail for making false accusations and also why haven’t the “reverend” AL Sharpton or Jesse Jackson been called to task for the race baited lynch mob they created in this case.

Posted by: Rob Bissell | April 14, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I find it hard to imagine that this guys deserve to be punished because they are guilty of coming from loving families that have worked hard to pay for their education. Fortunately, these strong families stood by them when falsely and maliciously accused by a woman who tried to profit emotionally and most likely financially by ruining their lives because of bitterness with the way her own life was turning out. There are other ways out of poverty then stripping — plenty of successful people of done it with hard work not self-pity. I wouldn’t be surprised if those three men’s parents were not born into the lifestyle the now have.

Posted by: Kristen | April 14, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I call for the firing of Terry Moran for passing judgement on these young men. MR Moran is playing the race card to make the white bays look like racists, sexists pigs and make the female accuser out to be a victim of this situation. Don’t get me wrong, both parties had a bad case of loose morals. They are sinners just like me, you and Mr Moran.
I forgive Mr Moran for posting this blog. Having said that he needs to be made and example of. Just like Rev Jessie calling for the firing of Don Imus.

Posted by: REV. John | April 14, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Yes, there are many wrongful prosecutions every year that go
unreported. Just like there are many rapes that don’t get the air time this one did. Why this time?
If the news media didn’t run with this for a year most people would of never known about it. They thought they could fry a few white kids and they got burnt.

Posted by: 1809ed | April 14, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

“They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
You have got to be kidding me if you think those Rutgers women aren’t well situated in life. Not only do they have notoriety that goes with their basketball championship, they have scholarships and are, EEOC-wise, “Twofers”

Posted by: Seymour | April 14, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Wonder if Terry’s “partner” Steven Klopin was in the Duke players shoes if he would be saying the same thing.
Interesting that he hides the fact he is gay but others people’s lives are open targets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Moran

Posted by: Mark | April 14, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Be carefull Terry. Someone might look into your past and use it against you.
Ever been to strip club? Been unfaithful?
Maybe there will be no sympathy for you should you be fired or humiliated for having a past lack of moral judgement.

Posted by: mitchell | April 14, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Hate to bring up the prototype for Money counting fo rhwat justice is, but does anyone honestly believe OJ is innocent?
Based on the high dollar Defense NOT wanting to pursue obvious Perjury charges against the woman, I can only assume for fear of what will actually come out in Court, I don’t beleive these Bous are completely innocent.
3 Black Athletes at U of Minn. were just charged with Rape…Let’s see the same outpouring of support and indignation for them…

Posted by: Moneycontrolsthestory | April 14, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Be carefull Terry. Someone might decide to look into your past and use it against you.
Ever been to strip club? Been unfaithful?
Maybe there will be no sympathy for you should you be fired or humiliated for having a past lack of moral judgement.

Posted by: mitchell | April 14, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Are you kidding. Yes hese horrible things happen everyday to people of all colors, mostly black. But you don’t point to other bad behavior and try to soften this bad behavior. These guys did the same things all of us did in college and if all you have is strippers and public drunkeness
I personally think you don’t have much of a case to be upset with them.

Posted by: Troy | April 14, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

wow, alot of replies for sure. I thought Terry said something wrong in this blog. Sounds like Terry has an open mind and perceptive view on how people are treated in the judicial system. Pointing them out doesnt make him anything but a journalist.

Posted by: mike | April 14, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

To compare these boys to the Rutgers Womens’ basketball team is so out of line it’s barely worth commenting on. The basketball players were made fun of by a radio host. The Duke players were accused of RAPE.
Get a clue.

Posted by: Rich Williams | April 14, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am

It’s NOT cool to use demeaning, hateful words about a race or gender. SOO WHY do black men feel that they are immune to Political Correctness..that they demand from everyone else?
American African males are not more special than anyone else and should not get a pass like they do if they say demeaning sexist and racial comments.
Saying cruel and hurtful words is not just a race issue and should not be about who is more of a victim than someone else.. meaning nobody should get a pass!
Rappers SHOULD pay a PRICE, just like Don Imas.

Posted by: Michelle Miller | April 14, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Reporters need to report and SHUT UP about their personal opinions. If they have a need to express themselves, they should take up dancing!

Posted by: Mary Siebert | April 14, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Thought about this overnight. This county was founded to protect free speech, and the right to a fair trial. Freedom of the press, viewed by most governments as a risk to central government power, was granted to support and insure these freedoms. Not so we could have porn channels. Scary to think that the view of the media is the reverse except when it comes to themselves. They want to control the flow of ideas and have trial by accusation as they follow their own agenda. The media is engaged in a new McCarthyism.

Posted by: Gordon | April 14, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Your article was a joke and your thoughts are reckless! Nifong and this crazy “victim” should go throught what the players did!

Posted by: Loomis | April 14, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

thanks for perpetuating racist stereotypes in the MSM. b/c they can not control the background they were born into, they should accept being treated unfairly? replace “privleged and money” with “poverty and no money” and your logic goes something like this:
“do not feel sorry for these wrongly accused men. they paid for a stripper and therefor deserve whatever the government accuses them of. they deserve to go to jail just like other poor people”.
b/c the parents cared enough to spend “millions” on hi priced lawyers doesn’t mean that they had millions lying around to do so. who knows what they have mortgaged and borrowed and how long they will be under financial burden in order to protect their sons from the predatory DA. who would not do the same thing to protect their sons. Strange there weren’t any White Panthers Groups, or loud mouthed self appointed Reverands swooping down to donate to the defense funds. No unions of concerned professors working on their behalf.
So why now after months of legal wrangling and the implosion of the DA and the case, after living wit the nightmares, after the complete vindication, you have the gall to say, “Don’t be sorry for their troubles, after all they are rich”?
You are the part of the problem. You are part of the self hating racist media. Just as the white supremicist will never admit a poor black (hispanic, asian, etc) can be ever be found innocent once accused of a crime, you are the racists perpetuating the racist theme: “No matter what the DA or evidence says, they are still guilty b/c they are rich and white.”

Posted by: randf | April 14, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

What a misguided dimwit you are Moran. Like many previous posters stated, you’d better hope you’re never in the same situation. In my opinion, I hope you are, you buffoon!

Posted by: eddie b | April 14, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

It is a good thing that they had the financial wealth to outlast this disgraceful political power hungry lawyerly abuse of power. Imagine what would have happened if they were poor. Nifong deserves jail time, real jail time for taking a bad situation and making it worse.

Posted by: phil | April 14, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Terry–Does the name Tawana Brawley ring a bell? One of those cops wrongfully accused killed himself. Being wrongfully accused of rape is a horrific ordeal. Shame on you with this class warfare nonsense. By the way, I am the white child of millionaires, a good athlete in college, got 1400 on my SAT and was 2nd in my prep school class, and was not good enough to get into Duke. These Duke kids are very smart, excellent student-athletes who deserve the same sort of praise that is being deservedly heaped onto the Rutgers stuednt-athletes who were dragged into the Imus mess. The last year of their lives has been ruined. And if they are going to be rich and successful, they are going to have to work 100 hour weeks throughout their next 10-15 years in order to get to the positions that their parents are in. This column makes me ill.

Posted by: mark | April 14, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

It is a good thing that they had the financial wealth to outlast this disgraceful political power hungry lawyerly abuse of power. Imagine what would have happened if they were poor. Nifong deserves jail time, real jail time for taking a bad situation and making it worse.

Posted by: phil | April 14, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Pathetic. moran have you never done wrong? Never drunk? Never smoked a joint? Never made a joke of someone? Never stole a cookie from the cookie jar? Never cheated on your girl/boy friend?
Of course I am sure you have never ever seen a stripper.
But you too are guilty, Moran.
Guilty of being white.
And where is your sympathy for a son of eire?
Maybe you’ll find it with your manhood. I’ll not hold my breath, tho

Posted by: bwd | April 14, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am

One post here read:
“Having a party with kids consuming alcohol underage, hiring strippers, and using racial epithets, should not be condoned when representing an institution such as Duke University. Yes, it is sad that these students were falsely accused …”
That last sentence is the understatement of the century. We’re talking about being accused of RAPE for God’s sake.

Posted by: Melanie | April 14, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

So no matter what these boys are guilty of something according to you. And it seems their biggest crime is being white and affluent.
Are you for real?

Posted by: Fred | April 14, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Why is anyone surprised at the hypocrisy of this ABC employee?
On ABC’s THE VIEW, several of the panelists expressed the same sentiments, and went even further to say that these young men were probably in some way actually guilty. The reasons given were that they were privileged white frat boys.
So we have ABC on-air personalities stating that these young athletes are probably of low moral character, calling them names, and overtly justifying it by reference to the color of their skin.
Now think real carefully… does that remind you of any OTHER news story you have heard recently?
Except of course this time the offense is being given to young white males, not young black females, and the offensive statements were made by liberal females who are “real” media stars, so it’s perfectly OK!
ABC would be better re-named “Hypocrites R Us”!

Posted by: sherlock | April 14, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Do your homework on this guy. Wikipedia has a pretty good article. He went to Lawrence University and it costs almost as much as Duke. I wonder why he doesn’t like other rich white males. The hypocrisy here leaves me at a loss for words.

Posted by: speechless | April 14, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Wow, what fun it is to watch Terry and the Media Pirates rush to cover their backsides. Once again, our beloved American media helps transform the country into one where you are guilty until proven innocent. Add to that Terry’s subtle hints that we shouldn’t feel sorry for these guys–accused of rape–because they’re white and had access to good attorneys. There’s no “nappy” reference here, but Terry’s inference is clear. And pathetic.

Posted by: GeorgeF | April 14, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am

justice is for both the rich and poor,justice is the lady with the blindfold and sword

Posted by: me | April 14, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Mr. Moran, you seem almost disappointed that the Duke players weren’t guilty. You seem to need them to fit your notion of what they must be. They are, after all, white. Their accuser was black. Therefore, if they aren’t technically guilty of rape, then here’s why they must be nonetheless shunned. Why does their financial position equal guilt. What is your income Mr. Moran. From what kind of a background did you come?

Posted by: Scott Williams | April 14, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Moran is trying to cover his tracks. Like many other media figures, he condemned the Duke guys b/c the case fit the established template that rich white boys hate poor black girls. The facts are irrelevant, because the story was written before the incident ever occurred.

Posted by: Chad Sexington | April 14, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

There is a reason print journalists (as opposed to “Op-Ed” writers), are discouraged from blogging. Credibility is everything. What little you had is gone. Better to appear a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt, eh? (On the bright side, YOU LOOK MARVELOUS!)

Posted by: Rick in Duxbury | April 14, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Meanwhile, the sport of lacrosse has reached unbelievable levels of popularity among young boys everywhere. What’s the sudden attraction? Could it be the team parties?

Posted by: Richard | April 14, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am

What a shame that in this day and age race continues to figure so prominently in shaping public opinion in America. Although Canada is far from ideal, one of the defining differences between our society and that of the U.S. is that we tend to be very intolerant of opportunists who use race to promote their agendas and the agendas of the organizations they represent. I am astounded by the amount of race-related media bandwidth that was devoted to this issue. People, this is the 21st, not the 19th Century!
Dave in Toronto

Posted by: Dave Thomas | April 14, 2007, 10:41 am 10:41 am

You seem to forget that someone at some time probably worked very hard to aquire this privileged state. Guilt or innocence should not be restricted to a privileged class; neither should it be excluded.

Posted by: Roy Carnes | April 14, 2007, 10:41 am 10:41 am

So let me make sure I have this straight — we shouldn’t feel sorry for these guys even though they were accused of a horrendous crime and their names and reputations were dragged through the mud and they were forced to face all kinds of accusations from university officials, media “experts” and anyone else who felt like throwing in their two cents, and they were forced to pay a fotune to defend themselves? That’s all okay because they are “rich white kids”? BULL! If they were Black kids accused of raping a White woman and it was proved they were innocent, Sharpie Sharpton and Just Us Jackson would be leading a protest.

Posted by: Laurence Socci | April 14, 2007, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Mr. Moran is what is wrong with our country-big mouthpiece-his own agenda-backing liberal wrong doings and criminal coverup. I can only say shame on you. Your mother probably never did. Go boys and congratulations on your perservence.

Posted by: P.Lewis | April 14, 2007, 10:48 am 10:48 am

This is an example of what happens when you get involved with TRASH. That’s right — anyone who is willing to strip is trash and you are in danger for simply associating with these types of people. Unfortunately, the justice department is so full of crooks like Nifong that justice is rarely served in America. I submit that these boys were prosecuted due to discrimination because they were white. This is how upside down this country has become. Those very people who were once persecuted now persecute and call it justice.

Posted by: Laura | April 14, 2007, 10:48 am 10:48 am

I’ve never even heard of this guy before. I simply cannot stand these so-called “journalists” who think they’re so above everyone else. I just wonder what would happen if Mr. Moran’s skeletons ever saw the light of day.
Journalists suck, period.

Posted by: Gus | April 14, 2007, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Mr. Moran is what is wrong with our country-big mouthpiece-his own agenda-backing liberal wrong doings and criminal coverup. I can only say shame on you. Your mother probably never did. Go boys and congratulations on your perserverence.

Posted by: P.Lewis | April 14, 2007, 10:49 am 10:49 am

You can not possibly mean what you wrote. Either you are kidding, or you are so blind with hatred for the white middle class that you rejoice in seeing any misfortune fall upon these young men deserved or not. I will never be able to watch a story reported by Terry Moran again without wondering if he is reporting the facts or spinning agitprop.

Posted by: Mark | April 14, 2007, 10:50 am 10:50 am

you can tell Mr. Moran is onto something by the confederacy of dunces on this thread who have come out to assail him.
long live truth!
this case is tied to bush and the present class war in america. how can anyone who describes themselves as “good” still back bush? at some point, just say you love the money of your tax breaks. bush has destroyed america and america in the world. cherish your money in hell.
sa

Posted by: sa | April 14, 2007, 10:50 am 10:50 am

You’re kidding, right? A rogue prosecutor tries to make political hay withn black voters by totally abusing his power and essentially lynching these kids and it’s OK? And what makes it OK is because other people who have suffered at the hands of uncontrolled, power hungry loons like Nifong haven’t been able to afford better attorneys? You really do need a reality check.
Yet another justification for this egregious abuse of power is the fact that these young men hired a stripper? What century do you live in? Also, let’s look at the term “stripper” .. was she a stripper or a prostitute or just promiscuous? After all, she did have sex with several men prior to merely dancing for these boys. A stripper takes of her clothes for money, but that doesn’t make her a money grubbing, sexual deviant. It does mean she has voluntarily accepted money to satisfy the desire for heterosexual men to want to look at a beautiful female body. In fact, in many circles, young men wishing to view naked women and yes, even fantasize about them sexually, is considered NORMAL. I hope I haven’t offended somebody out there who practices an “alternative” lifestyle, but what these boys were doing really isn’t sexually deviant, even though we might consider it crude. And by the way, being crude is not a good reason to ruin anybody’s life.
Normally, I wouldn’t wish harm on you for expressing an opinion, but you are just so ignorant and so arrogant in your self-righteous commentary, perhaps the only way you’d ever learn about the true injustice suffered by these young men is to experience it for yourself. So I really do hope that you are falsely accused someday and that you have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars vindicating your good name. I also hope that when you are falsely accused, you are immediately considered guilty and loose your job, are ostracized publicly and shunned by your friends and associates. It would serve you right and I wouldn’t shed a tear. BUT, I would really look forward to the article you’d write after you had suffered what these boys did.

Posted by: Richard | April 14, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am

This article is a complete joke. If you’re so worried about prosecutorial misconduct then you should cover all fo these incients (which you apparently know of).
The point is, News agencies rushed to judgement and ruined the reputation of these boys all to get some ratings.
They did nothing illegal, so don’t make them out to be bad people for hiring strippers. It seems the strippers were willing to take the money.
Know that you KNOW a crime was committed (filing a false police report) let’s see ABC covers that with the same fervor it had for the Duke students.

Posted by: Royce | April 14, 2007, 10:52 am 10:52 am

How anyone, particlularly an enlightemed member of the media, could base his level sympathy for anyone wrongly accused of a crime on the wrongly accused person’s background defies credulity. Our justice system and society in general is dealt a severe blow any time a person is wrongly convicted of a crime or has his or her reputation irreparably destroyed as a result of being wrongfully accused of a crime. The level of outrage or empathy we feel should be the same whether the victim is a child of privilege or a career criminal.
That Mr. Moran would make an affirmative case to temper sympathy for any wrongfully acused person is an outrage, and I am gald that I do not share his moral compass.

Posted by: JJR | April 14, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am

What if Terry was accused of having sex with young boys and had it splashed all over the press for a year. What if his superiors at ABC and the other networks signed a letter similar to that of the Duke Professors. What if it really was made up by some deranged person with a bad childhood. Since Tery was an elitest reporter for a major network, we shouldnt feel so sorry for him. OR what if he was fired from ABC for saying something so stupid. Its not illegal but I suppose we should not feel sorry for him as he has had previleges in life that others havent. Lets look for his blog on how he shouldnt be pittied as an ABC reporter who spent a year defending himself against child rape charges.

Posted by: Craig | April 14, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Let’s give Terry credit, the entire thing is about race and money.
The fact that they were white and rich made them a target for a black stripper and power hungry prosecutor. If they were poor white men or rich blacks, the stripper would have done what she was paid for and gone home.

Posted by: Big-D | April 14, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Liberals of Moran’s type have no shame and are incapable of shame, don’t you know?

Posted by: wc | April 14, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Don’t fault them for being from very successful and well off families. Money can buy the best attorneys and that is what is needed when you are being railroaded by a prosecutor and a lying victim.

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am

This is the last ABC piece I will read, watch or listen to until I learn that this reporter is dismissed. I don’t have the dollars of Imus’ sponsors, but I have eyes that can get my information at other sources than those that allow this type of lunacy.

Posted by: lee | April 14, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Let’s give Terry credit, the entire thing was about race and money.
The fact that they were white and rich made them a target for a black stripper and power hungry prosecutor. If they were poor white men or rich blacks, the stripper would have done the job she was paid for and gone home.

Posted by: Big-D | April 14, 2007, 10:59 am 10:59 am

You miss the point entirely. Is it not reasonable and proper to be able to trust a prosecutor? This man, Nifong, in my opinion should be locked away for years for what he did. The students did not do what he said, no matter what their economic background.
Minority group complain constantly that they get bad deals from the law, looks like they have a case. How many other cases has this prosecutor tried this way? You should be looking into his other cases for innocent people. There is a story for you.
The man is a pig he prays on others for his own benefit and them lies to try to get out of it. No sir we are the ones with the problem here. If, God for bid, you or I were arrested how do you think you would feel now knowing there are truly people like Mike out there. I think not so good. I am not worried about the lacrosse player I am worried about you and me.

Posted by: Green | April 14, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am

“The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.”
And THANK GOD for that! Imagine if they were just average schmoes… they’d be in jail right now.
I can’t believe the tone of this article… disgusting.
Vic

Posted by: Screen Rant | April 14, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

I can only say I wish this same situation on you and any children you may have then we would see what lengths you go to to point out how they were wronged. Hopefully we will all be there to remind you it is no big deal and your kid can go on with their life. If anyone should be ignored it is your shameless attempt for attention by writing something I am sure you dont believe when at a cocktail party with your fellow writers

Posted by: terri | April 14, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Mr. Moran,
Your piece is absurd and exposes your hypocritical slant of a news story. I can’t believe ABC can’t hire reporters of a higher caliber. Journalists used to be impartial in the reporting of news and held themselves to a higher standard.
Reporters like you are dragging the journalistic profession down to that of used car salesmen.

Posted by: Ray | April 14, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

These guys have had all their friends and family question weather or not they really committed rape for over a year. Those people close to them will still never feel the same.

Posted by: steve | April 14, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am

How in your right mind can you write that the Rutgers Women’s Basketball Team has had it worse than the Duke Lacrosse players who were falsely accused of rape. This is preposterous. For anyone in the mainstream media to even thing this, much less write this, shows just how far removed from reality they are and just how biased they are in their reporting. Here are just a few reasons why you are so wrong:
1. First, the personal freedom of the Rutgers women was never in jeopardy. No one ever accused them of any wrongdoing, falsely or otherwise. They never faced the very real possibility of serious jail time. They were not finger printed, their mug shots were not taken or splashed across every television station, newspaper or website in the country with the word “rapist” attached to their names. Can you even name me one of the Rutgers’ players? I cannot tell you how many times I have heard the statement about the Rutgers incident “How would you feel if it was your daughter who was called that name on national TV and radio?” Well, how would you like it if your son was falsely branded a criminal sexual predator throughout every medium in the country?
2. Second, last I checked, the Rutgers incident has been going on for 9 days now. The Duke incident has lasted over 13 months.
3. Third. Duke’s reaction was to expel the three students before they had ever had the opportunity to defend themselves, 88 members of the Duke faculty published a letter condemning them, their team’s entire 2006 season was cancelled before it even began. The lost over a year of their lives and the rest of their college athletic eligibility over this. They had Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, Malik Shabbaz, every feminist whacko organization in the country, the media and countless others pillorying them on almost a daily basis. Rutgers and the rest of the public has had nothing but adoration for the women’s basketball team.
4. Fourth, the families of the Duke players have spent over $3,000,000.00 fighting for their innocence. They have been subjected to incredible scrutiny, interrogation, investigation, meetings and other grueling activities over the last 13 months. The Rutgers team has gone through 2 news conferences and a meeting with Don Imus in which they got to vent their anger.
5. Fifth, the Rutgers team had no problem fighting back in the media against Don Imus. They really did not have to do anything. The media, the activists, the politicians and the general public attacked Imus for them. The Duke players, on the other hand, had to be extremely careful in the way they fought for their innocence. Their accuser’s name of picture was never disclosed. Their accuser was not called a “stripper” or a “hooker”, but a “dancer” and “a single mother who was only trying to better herself.”
6. Sixth, Don Imus, the culprit in the Rutgers case, has been fired from radio and TV. His reputation has been forever seriously damaged. All deservedly so. He is paying a price for his inexcusable conduct. There has been no compassion or second chance for him. What of the false accuser in the Duke case? She committed a crime – she filed a false police report accusing 3 men with felonious conduct which was conclusively determined to be without any merit. Is she going to be called to answer for her wrongdoing, which was many times more serious than that of Imus? Will she go to jail for her crime? Will she pay a fine? Will she be forced to make restitution for any part of the costs she has forced the Duke players and their families to incur and pay? As far as I know, and tell me if I am wrong, she hasn’t even apologized to anyone in any way, shape manner or form. The media excuses this by saying she may have some mental or emotional issues. Don Imus has not stopped publicly and privately apologizing all week. He met with Al Sharpton on his radio show and took it from the Reverend in public for over an hour. He spent 3 hours in person, one on one, apologizing to and listening to the Rutgers players and their coach. I am no Imus fan, but surely even you can see a difference in the situations.
So tell me, how can anyone in their right mind (or more appropriately “left mind”) even suggest that the Duke players did not have it as bad as the Rutgers women? It is this demented logic and pandering that has thrown our society into such a terrible state when it comes to race relations. The very concepts of “reparations”, “entitlements” and “preferences” must be done away with so that we are all put on an equal footing. It is only when we not only see each other as equals but treat each other as equals that we can begin to solve our problems. Only then can we have a fair and open discussion about race and race relations.

Posted by: Paul Villarruel | April 14, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am

You have got to be kidding me. I really hope you just posted this to stir up interest in your blog. How is there any comparison between what the Rutgers women went through and what these 3 men were subjected to. One was a clearly inappropriate comment that sparked immediate backlash against the offender and an outpouring of support for the victims. In the Duke case, the victims were kicked out of school and subjected to intense public ridicule while their families spent their life savings trying desparately to bring the truth to light. This is a truly silly comparison on every level.

Posted by: A.R.B. | April 14, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am

I am glad to see so many respond negatively to this article. It is simply absurd.

Posted by: Nick | April 14, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am

“And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is.”
Terry, you are a journalist. Cover those stories. Don’t tell us not to feel sorry for the wrongfully prosecuted in this case because you and others in your profession are (at least according to your own unwitting admission) racist in your media coverage.

Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am

i’m not for the accuser, or for the accused. the whole thing stinks to high heaven. but let’s not pretend anyone is “innocent” in this case. something happened, and the crush of money came in to protect and discard. let’s not pretend otherwise.
in america it’s called “justice.”

Posted by: sa | April 14, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Attention ABC – I have been a devoted Nightline viewer for over a decade. After reading these despicable, insensitive comments by Mr. Moran, I will never watch again. Just like I don’t believe Imus should have been fired – I don’t believe Mr.Moran deserves termination and has a right to express his views – even as disgusting as they may be. But just as those who didn’t like Mr. Imus’s comments should have done – I have the right and freedom choose to change the channel forever – and that’s what I am doing. Goodbye Nightline. And Mr. Moran, I feel sorry for you – you are pathetic excuse for a human being.

Posted by: Erik H | April 14, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am

You ignore a very important point. Everything you say that the players did in the house was legal– you may not like it, but there is nothing illegal about paying a person to dance in a private home. And requesting that “at least one” of the dancers be white or black seems like as much a request for diversity as anything else. Kind of like the affirmative action policy at Duke. You do not know the context of events inside the home, and given the fact that the primary accusations turned out to be baseless, I don’t thing it’s fair to give credibility to other accusations. There are real cases where women are raped and abused, and in these cases the women deserve every resource society can muster to protect them. And then there are cases like this, where the accuser has list all credibility and opinions about anything that happened to her should be subject to thorough scrutiny.

Posted by: Tank Top | April 14, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

What a shockingly “classist” and racist story by Terry Moran.
People should be treated differently (as in worse) because they happen to have resources? I thought we were all to be treated equally under the law.
Granted, they did have a better shot than most to receive justice due to these resources, but the benefit applies to us all.
Terry–can’t you understand that treating people differently based on class or race is wrong–even when you believe your Robin Hood-esque ideas would somehow right the wrongs of the world?
Terry–you are truly a moron.

Posted by: Rob | April 14, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

To quote from you ill-thoughtout piece: “And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is. Look for a moment at what James Giles endured”.
Where was the media until James Giles was proven innocent? Was there was no money to be made from the reporting until then? Was there no point to be served in reporting on that matter?
How can any honest journalist take pleasure in saying that the Duke athletes do not deserve our symphony, but the Rutgers athletes do? These guys could have wound up in jail for 30 years, and that would have been fine with the MSM -it would have represented “equal justice” and a taste of what other unjustly convicted minorities such as Jim Giles have suffered. That is where the valuable lesson is to be learned.
Perhaps if you and the MSM would spend more of its time obsessing over the cases in which there is an unjust railroading of “suspects”, and shine the light of scrutiny on those cases, there would not be so many unreported cases. We must all realize that there is not much chance of that because there is no money in it.
Even your current illogical rant in this article was undoubtedly construed by you and your “people” to focus some kind of attention on you and your increasingly irrelevant Nightline program. No publicity is bad publicity when it come to ratings.

Posted by: jimp | April 14, 2007, 11:15 am 11:15 am

I think that there’s no doubt that the all 3 kids got legally screwed by a prosecutor who had ulterior motives. I also think that they were more severely reamed by the media. I also think that by prejudging these three young men, that many major media outlets enabled opportunists like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and many other “Black Leaders” to use the situation to further their own ambitions is,second only to Mr. Nifongs, the largest crime. Some one hiring strippers for a keg party in a fraternity, boy I bet this is historical. What difference does the income level of their family matter? That they are prosperous is immaterial. It is interesting that the main argument that Mr. Moran uses is that these guys are white, privilged and perverted. I’d be interested to examine HIS life under a microscope. Do I feel sorry for these three young men? Yeah, I do. Regardless of your station in life, in THIS country, your entitled to due process and assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. Apparently people like Mr. Moran and many like him have ideas and agendas that supercede these basic rights.

Posted by: Rob | April 14, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Once again, another liberal biased reporter bashing someone for having money (smells of hypocracy); as if that’s the evil force in this case. If he were wrongly accused, he’d use whatever money and/or assets he had to get out of the bullseye. Why is it wrong for people with money to use their cash to buy what they need…in a life or death emergency!!!!
As for media coverage….the media brought this case to the national headlines, not the Dukies. The media attention probably factored in to the names on the defense roster. The media sensationalized this case from the start ONLY because there was a perceived (and subsequently wrong) relationship between rich white guys a nd a poor black woman. Had it been a poor white victom, the media wouldn’t have printed one word.

Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

I thought Justice was supposed to be “BLIND”…. Apparently not in the case of “well heeled, well connected” white young men with enough money to keep them out of prison for crime they did not commit. Apparently you think they should some price for their “crime” of their birth. I see no other reason for your shameful blog.

Posted by: Babyboomer | April 14, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

The word “rich” has been tossed around a lot. From what I have read, at least one of the three players comes from somewhat modest circumstances. I suggest a careful review of the facts before making such an inflamatory assumption.
BTW, this kind of prosecutorial misconduct is the prime reason I am against the death penalty.
Reccommended reading: A Bonfire of the Vanities by Tom Wolf

Posted by: Harry Kresge | April 14, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

I am sure there are millions of assault charges levied against people all across the US. So why did these guys get picked up by the media? Because of all the things Moran said we should not feel sorry for, “their lot in life” ie. great university, money so on. So the moral of Mr. Moran’s story, if your rich and well educated and get wrongly accused of sexual assault or any crime, well too bad, your rich we won’t feel sorry for you.

Posted by: Michael | April 14, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

I am sure there are millions of assault charges levied against people all across the US. So why did these guys get picked up by the media? Because of all the things T. Moron said we should not feel sorry for, “their lot in life” ie. great university, money so on. So the moral of Mr. Moron’s story, if your rich and well educated and get wrongly accused of sexual assault or any crime, well too bad, your rich we won’t feel sorry for you.

Posted by: Michael | April 14, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am

You miss the point entirely. You complain that they are rich, white kids who FINALLY got a taste of what poor people go through. Nifong went after them precisely because they were rich, white kids and he needed poor, black votes. This was all about Nifong and he used three kids to get re-elected. Even worse is how the three were and still are being treated by Duke and its professors. Guilt was automatically assumed and punishment meted out – and continues. Shame on you, Duke and shame on you Nifong.

Posted by: Wazzat | April 14, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Mister Moran, you are a typical member of the mainstream media which is largely to the left. I am hardly a neo con but I do not agree with you to a rather large extent. Why not some equal time here? Have you ever taken the Reverend Jackson to task for that highly derogatory and insulting remark he made some years ago about that Jewish community in the NYC metro area? I believe Jessee referred to it as “Hymietown”. Yeah, a clear double standard exists in your business Terry, which is why I refrain from watching the network news on all of the networks.

Posted by: RM | April 14, 2007, 11:29 am 11:29 am

dont act like duke students are not regular people. look at you thinking that u can write from your pulpit at abc news about anything you want..and you think you dont come off as pompous? you have no idea what any of these guys went through for over a year, just let the thing drop. its not your damn call to decide how much greivance someone gets. if someone gets killed by a drunk driver rather than someone who is killed by a heart attack, do you give sympathy in different levels? its such a hypocrisy by you (the media) to blow up this whole duke case and then u try to taper it off by saying, “well hey now lets not give them too much credit”..terry moran go rethink what you wrote

Posted by: Justin | April 14, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Classic liberal slant: Assume they are guilty from the moment allegations are made (as ABC news coverage implied the night the accusations were made public) because THEY ARE WHITE MEN…then, when cleared wholesale of all charges, tell us not to feel bad for them BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE MEN.
They hired strippers – legal, and common, and supported by liberal legal activism. NO FOUL.
They “requested at least one white stripper” – so having a preference of what you find attractive that may relate to race is illegal now? NO FOUL.
They “hurled racial epithets” – subjective, since almost any word that acknowledges color/race differences is denounced as an epithet, and most are used by hip-hop and pop culture as language in common usage. NO FOUL.
A previous charge (conviction is not mentioned…why not?) makes it acceptable to abuse the law? What about the accusers previous legal run-ins? I don’t see you referencing her rap sheet. Since it has nothing to do with this case, or the other players…NO FOUL.
And finally…they were able to mount a defense – OH THE SHAME! To be financially able to defend yourself against a lying racist who saw you as a way to get paid is considered a wrong by the liberal establishment because it gets in the way of having to bow to this kind of witch-hunt mentality. NO FOUL.

Posted by: Johnnie | April 14, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Perhaps Mr. Moran should cover ALL of this case, not just the elements that support his personal views.
Yes, these kids can be called “privileged”, but none of us have seen the personal balance sheets. The assumption that they are rich because they could afford very good, expensive lawyers is just that, an assumption. Reade Seligmann’s family had to borrow hundreds of thousands of dollars for bail and lawyers fees. (Read:they didn’t have the money in the bank — not quite as “rich” as most would believe). Granted, he is an upper middle class kid whose parents found a way to get him a fine education, but it doesn’t mean the have a house in the Hamptons and drive $75,000 cars.
Read Seligmann’s comments on Weds. were focused on the important issue mentioned in this op/ed. He stated that he wasn’t looking for, nor asking for sympathy. Rather, he thought the focus going forward should be on how unjust our justice system is to those who cannot find a way to get quality representation. This kid has a moral compass that is quite
By the way, shouldn’t there be some sympathy for Coach Mike Pressler, who lost his job and had his fine career destroyed for no reason whatsoever? Where’s the justice there? Most don’t know that he couldn’t even get an interview at his alma mater for a division III coaching job. Talk about an injustice.
In the end, this isn’t about race or rich vs. poor, it’s about the inequalities and inconsistencies in our justice system. We can certainly find a way to get quality representation for those without the means to retain it given the over-lawyered state of our country. And, we can certainly ferret out and eliminate dishonest and/or over zealous prosecutors to balance the scales better than they are currently balanced.

Posted by: Harvey S | April 14, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am

I think Reade Seligmann, one of the accused Duke players, showed a lot of maturity when he said this experience has opened his eyes to the fact that the same bad prosecutorial conduct is committed against people with fewer resources to defend themselves. Instead of just basking in the relief of his exoneration he drew an important lesson for our society. I believe this case was important in that it will make the public less credulous when it comes to government misconduct against those accused of crimes. Terry’s negative article, essentially castigating them for being upper middle class, is typical of the simple-minded leftist slant of so many in the media. They seem to want to make anyone who is not poor feel ashamed. I suggest to Terry: give up your reporting job and give it to a poor person who did not have your advantages.

Posted by: Edwin Rowe | April 14, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am

To all the rich haters out there:
Please stop bashing the rich! I am sick of it. Yes, they have money. Yes, they could afford high price lawyers. But who cares, except for some of you poor mouthing people, including the Their money was what got all this attention anyway and they needed it to find of a mad man. And do not bet one of you poor mouthed people commenting on here would have done different if you had the money.
We should feel sorry for both the women and the young men. Everyone in the sorid episode needs counseling and help. The DA is the the one we should have no pitty for. He abused his power for nothing more than pure politics. No justice in that, no matter if you are white or black/rich or poor. Do poor people get shafted more often, yes. Should something be done about it, yes. But the solution is not found by bashing the rich.
And you can not hold past
miss-conduct of either party in this case as valid. The players or the lady. So all-in-all the lady and the players have suffered under the media’s grab for ratings. Now, all of their names and faces have been plastered all over the headlines.
If anyone of them are going to make something of themselves it is going to be what they chose to do from now on. It is just a fact the lady is going to need a little more since she is not coming from a place of weath. So instead of writting stupid articles and rich hatting why don’t some of you put your money where your key board is and send the lady some money.
From someone making under 40,000 a year.

Posted by: jim | April 14, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am

If a woman drank too much at a party and was later raped, would you still say that we shouldn’t feel sorry for her because her actions led to it? I don’t think so.

Posted by: Travis | April 14, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Are you sure your name isn’t Terry MORON??? You really can’t be serious with this tripe can you? So using your logic, we should not feel sorry for a rape victim who has a history of alcohol and drug problems and wears skimpy clothing in a part of town where she shouldn’t be walking around in the first place, right? You really need to check yourself, pal, because it’s people who believe like you who are responsible for the warped, decayed justice system that benefits the guilty more than the innocent. Thanks for putting me off my breakfast with your bilge.

Posted by: Kilroy | April 14, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Can we remember the actions of the university weren’t exactly stellar either? They jumped to the conclusion that these boys were guilty immediatly and started a wrecking ball effect all the way through this case. The professors of the school ‘united’ against these kids in a shameful and ludicrous way and should hide their heads in shame. Nifong is only half the problem. The school should have taken a wait and see attitude at the very least.
Innocent until proven guilty is gone now. That’s what this case proved.

Posted by: Scott | April 14, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am

These young men were innocent.
everyone knows that a person’s justice is what he can afford, from Califorina to New York it doesn’t matter if your black or white. When you have a power hungry District attorney on an election year watch out…

Posted by: Roger | April 14, 2007, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Too transparent that pretty-boy with a girl’s name has an agenda here.
He’s just doing his part as part of a lobby that has been trying to appeal to minorities to advance their own cause.

Posted by: To Mr. Moron | April 14, 2007, 11:38 am 11:38 am

These young men were innocent.
everyone knows that a person’s justice is what he can afford, from Califorina to New York it doesn’t matter if your black or white. When you have a power hungry District attorney on an election year watch out…

Posted by: Roger | April 14, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am

TERRY, AS YOU SAY IN YOUR ARTICLE THERE WAS PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT ON THE BEHALF OF D. A. NIFONG. AS A LAWYER, YOU ARE MISSING THE “POINT”. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THE DUKE ATHLETES WERE WHITE, BLACK, HISPANTIC, RICH OR POOR. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOU WERE TOLD YOUR FILRST WEEK OF CRIMINAL LAW, ‘INGORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE”. NO ONE SHOULD KNOW THIS BETTER THAN MR. NIFONG. WAKE UP AND QUIT SMELLING THE ROSES, SORRY I MEANT THE WEEK.
GRANDDADDY

Posted by: Joe Fortner | April 14, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Terry knows that the only reasons this whole incident had legs are:
• The kids are white
• They come from “wealthy” families
• There is a black woman playing victim
• Powerful entities saw a means to a spotlight
Fair enough. If it bleeds; or in this case, if it will bleed, it leads. That is the way TV and print “news” works, and one of the reasons I stopped watching the likes of ABC a very long time ago. I can’t say if Mr. Moran portrays himself as an unbiased reporter of fact (because I don’t watch), but he certainly does betray himself in “Don’t Feel Sorry for the Dukies”.
As I read, “…let us also remember a few other things:” I wonder how Terry treated O.J. Simpson in the media when O.J. was fully exonerated from all suspicion after murdering his Nichole and Ron. Maybe he gave that case the same treatment. I dunno, I don’t have the patients to research that circus.
Another blogger suggests ABC should fire Terry over this. (as if that is likely!) My opinion about Terry’s employment is that I really don’t care whether he keeps or looses his spotlight. I won’t be seeing him anyway.

Posted by: L Duncan | April 14, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am

You have to be writing this to generate responses. Because if you really believe that drivel, you should be fired.

Posted by: TJ | April 14, 2007, 11:45 am 11:45 am

This is perhaps the most arrogant commentary I’ve ever read. Not only does it confirm the deep seeded media bias in America today, but it also provides insight into the view of many in the press that they are somehow beyond reproach as moral standard bearers of what is right and what is just.
For more than a year now, the media helped perpetuate the myth that these young men were guilty of rape and kidnapping because of a viscious racism nurtured at Duke and in their elitist world.
When innocent people of any race, gender, or economic standing are victimized we should all be outraged.
These young men will forever live with a scarlett “R” on their chests by those who prejudged them and still don’t support their vindication – much like Mr. Moran.
Moran rightly points out that these men had the best counsel money could buy, which certainly played a large part in removing the false charges against them. I guess Moran didn’t watch the press confernce held by the group in which Mr. Seligmann expressed concern for anyone falsely accused of a crime who lacked good counsel.
These boys made some serious mistakes the night of the alledged crime. While hiring strippers isn’t illegal, this reclass behavior put their positions on the Lacrosse team and at the Univeristy unnecessarily at risk. I’m quite sure they’ve learned many lessons over the past year, however, nobody deserves to be falsely accused of a capitol crime like rape.
The presumption of innocence, whici is at the heart of our legal system, is under attack in this country by the media and powerful interests who want to pursue a radical agenda of social justice through the courts.
The story of the accuser in this case is a tragedy. She is a troubled individual who seemed at the cusp of achieving a better life by graduating from college. Unfortunatley, a rogue prosecutor aided by the media and other powerful groups help exploit her desperate situation for their own ends.
Mr. Moran, you and everyone in the press who slandered these boys owe them and the American people an apology. Only then will we be able to restore the independence of the press which is essential to the survial of our democracy.
Bob

Posted by: Bob Stevens | April 14, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am

“If a woman drank too much at a party and was later raped, would you still say that we shouldn’t feel sorry for her because her actions led to it? I don’t think so.” I totaly agree with that one

Posted by: s.r. | April 14, 2007, 11:52 am 11:52 am

You should be fired for writing such partisan drivel. People like you are dividing this country for nothing but political spite and class envy.
I’d like to see you falsely accused of a crime for over a year of your life. I’d like to see how you would read your own blog after such an ordeal. I’d like to see you react to people’s ignorant comments after you were cleared of all wrongdoing.
You are not one of the good guys. Justice is blind and balanced. You are calculating and biased. Shame on you and shame on ABC for publishing your ignorant bigoted rhetoric.

Posted by: Kevin San Angelo | April 14, 2007, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Terry, this is incredibly disappointing. I hope everyone has sympathy for anyone who suffers such injustice. How can you differentiate based upon the ability to pay for attorneys? These families are not Bil Gates wealthy, not that it even matters. $800 to hire strippers? You need to get a reality check on campus activities as that’s a drop in the bucket even for the average group at the public university. When people like you measure the extent of injustice by the ability to defend against it or on past behavior, you diminish the pursuit of justice for all of us. I thought you were somewhat independent but your advocating class envy and worse as you have indicates a substantial PC left wing bias.

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2007, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Wow. Perhaps the most intellectually deficient article I have ever read. Terry, why don’t you leave analysis to those of us with a brain and just report the facts. Obviously, anything beyond that is simply beyond the capacity of your finite mind.

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Yes, the Duke players will survive. So will the Rutgers players. But to say “don’t be too sorry for them” because they 1) deserved it, 2) had big money attorneys, 3) cases like this happen all the time, 4) blacks have been prosecuted in similar cases – is racist, elitist, callused, and plain asinine. I am amazed at the illogical rational some of today’s reporters possess.

Posted by: joe | April 14, 2007, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

I’m glad someone in the media has the balls to say such things. I didn’t feel bad for them at all. And it’s the same thing with lost children: we only hear about the middle-class/rich white children who get kidnapped. Thanks for being brave enough to say it. And also, to some commentors, you shouldn’t pray to God that anything bad happens to this man. And also, these boys didn’t have to work hard to get into the university, they were bought in or they just got in to be on the team. Any intelligent, hard working man doesn’t act like they did.

Posted by: Perry | April 14, 2007, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

I grew up watching ABC. Now I hate that they have a few programs that I still like to watch because I am tired of the PC rhetoric they push of as news.
You are supposed to be the AMERICAN Broadcasting Network. Why do I feel like I am watching the news somewhere that they don’t like Americans? We are not the enemy. We are not evil. We treat our people with more dignity and respect than anywhere else in the world. Why don’t you write about human road kill in Nigeria? Why not focus on female circumcision in Egypt? How about writing about the women in the Middle East who are raped then murdered by the people who should be defending them? Throw in some personal stories on ethnic cleansing in Darfur to highlight for the world what terrible things are happening. Show Americans how good our life really is compared to most of the rest of the world without throwing in your personal guilty feeling for having a better life than some. Be happy you were born here in America and can write garbage like this in a pathetic attempt to gain favor by creating and exploiting class envy. Shame on you … you are worse than Don Imus and he got fired.

Posted by: Kevin San Angelo | April 14, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

This reporter simply can’t let go of the priveliged racist white man template of the liberal media.–like the Bush military service records, lack of evidence in no way disavows basic liberal media core belief.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

I’m glad someone in the media has the balls to say such things. I didn’t feel bad for them at all. And it’s the same thing with lost children: we only hear about the middle-class/rich white children who get kidnapped. Thanks for being brave enough to say it. And also, to some commentors, you shouldn’t pray to God that anything bad happens to this man. And also, these boys didn’t have to work hard to get into the university, they were bought in or they just got in to be on the team. Any intelligent, hard working man doesn’t act like they do.

Posted by: Perry | April 14, 2007, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

The law is the law, discrimination is discrimination and you fight discrimination wherever it exists.
It is no more right to discrimate against a “rich”person than a poor one!
It is just that simple! But I guess I am going to committ an act of discrimination right here and now.
I wonder if those of you who have an obsession with levels of income, social class constitute a lesser “political species” who simply cannot see past their obsession in order to see individuals as individuals, not as members of some kind of class. I think it is because your brains are not yet developed to the extent that you can see past all that to look at reality. Yes, I know that looking at people only as members of groups is your reality, and your are welcome to it!
It’s ok by me, when you do that, I know who to avoid in my daily life, and that makes my life better.
She lied, and in doing so commited a crime against the players. Period.
Have nice weekend!

Posted by: Ken Heins | April 14, 2007, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

MR. MORAN, THESE POSTS FOR THE MOST PART ARE PERCEPTIVE, WHETHER BLUNT, WELL-REASONED, WITTY, LONG, OR SHORT.
WE REPRESENT A HUGE SEGMENT OF OUR NATION’S POPULATION, CERTAINLY A COMFORTABLE MAJORITY, AND THOSE IN HIGH PLACES SHOULD FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AND UNEASY WHEN THEY READ WHAT REAL PEOPLE THINK AND HOW WE FEEL
YOU AND OUTHERS LIKE YOU ARE ‘COLLECTIVELY’ LEADING A PARADE WITH INCREASINGLY FEWER FOLLOWERS. THE LONGER YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU IGNORE THE TRUTH, THE LONGER YOU DISCOUNT WHAT PEOPLE REALLY THINK AND HOW WE FEEL, THE SMALLER YOUR PARADE WILL GET.

Posted by: Randolph Philips | April 14, 2007, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Terry – Don’t forget the role the media played in this tragedy. Your colleagues overdid this story from the beginning, which (I think) led Nifong to take advantage of the situation for his political gain. Your point is well taken and serves as a reminder to all of us that (as is all pursuits) there are some bad apples in the justice system.

Posted by: DA | April 14, 2007, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

I wonder how Terry would have played this if they were found guilty. Darn it! they were innocent of the crime, I still have to find a way to damn them or I won’t be the hit of my elite friends at the smoke and coke parties. Get over yourself Terry! If you really want to expose racism, go talk to the African-American “leaders”. They are all blatant racists.

Posted by: Newsflash | April 14, 2007, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

I feel sorry for ABC having a detached reporter.
Gads, just because a guy is rich and white you should not feel sorry for him…I would feel the same way for poor, etc too. This ABC clown is a bigot and needs to go sensitivity class.
The Duke kids did something stupid…they hired an escort. That is what they did. They were young and being foolish goes with that age.
What is the ABC reporter’s excuse?

Posted by: Nate | April 14, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Isn’t anyone else amazed this hasn’t been characterized as a “hate-crime”?
It appears to me that the accuser, “Crystal Gayle Mangum” chose these boys based on race and class. Isn’t that a hate crime?

Posted by: Kevin San Angelo | April 14, 2007, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

These guys were wrongly accused of a heinous crime by a reckless, politically motivated DA and Moran says that we shouldn’t feel too sorry for them.
We should always be outraged when those in the justice sysem abuse their power regardless of the race, religion, sex, or income of the accused.
And to compare what happened to these three men to the comments made by Don Imus about the Rutgers women basketball players is pathetic. The Duke men had to leave school and their team and lost a year of their lives fighting this case. And now their families owe huge legal bills for a case in which the state of NC says they were wrongly accused by a rogue prosecutor. The Rutgers girls were insulted by a man who insults people for a living. BFD. The Rutgers women are still in school and on the basektball team and can continue their lives just as before.

Posted by: John Murray | April 14, 2007, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

These guys were wrongly accused of a heinous crime by a reckless, politically motivated DA and Moran says that we shouldn’t feel too sorry for them.
We should always be outraged when those in the justice sysem abuse their power regardless of the race, religion, sex, or income of the accused.
And to compare what happened to these three men to the comments made by Don Imus about the Rutgers women basketball players is pathetic. The Duke men had to leave school and their team and lost a year of their lives fighting this case. And now their families owe huge legal bills for a case in which the state of NC says they were wrongly accused by a rogue prosecutor. The Rutgers girls were insulted by a man who insults people for a living. BFD. The Rutgers women are still in school and on the basektball team and can continue their lives just as before.

Posted by: John Murray | April 14, 2007, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

I don’t think I’ve ever really seen anything quite like this. This gentleman is employed by a major broadcast network?
This is really beyond the pale.
I really loved the part where he blames them for asking that one of the strippers be white.
“Well, go ahead and order the strippers. But only if you order strippers to whom you are not personally attracted.”
By this logic, Terry Moran is a racist if he never dated any black women.
I want a list RIGHT NOW of the names of Terry Moran’s African-American dates.

Posted by: WF | April 14, 2007, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Remember the 1981 film ‘Absence of Malice’? That tells the story of the son of a dead Mafia boss who had nothing to do with his crime family, discovers that he has become a front-page story on the local newspaper, indicating that he is being investigated for a murder he didn’t commit. Paul Newman plays this man, Michael Gallagher. Sally Field is the reporter who creates the story. It’s like Mike Nifong copied his play book from this movie; except for there were no racial underline to the story. Never the less the similarities are mind-boggling. I remember after seeing it first time I was thinking: ‘very entertaining but the end is not realistic, there is no way the head prosecutor turns on the subordinate and ‘feeds him to the dog’s’ for ambition driven prosecutorial miss-conduct. Another stunning similarity with Duke’s case is that no one did anything in defense of the wrongly accused until he very cleverly fought back; and the press (reporter Sally Field) was ready to burry the accused in the insinuations presented as facts. I thought I’ll never see it happening in real life. But it did, 25 years later!!! Halleluiah !!!

Posted by: Michael | April 14, 2007, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

It seems to me that he spells his name incorrectly. It should be spelled “MORON”. His bias is evident by comments such as “elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives.”
Is he jealous or saying that the crime against these young men is not real. If anything he should campaign against false accusations of anyone who does not have the means to fight them. It is nearly impossible to prove oneself innocent when assumed guilty. That is why our system is intended to presume innocence.
It is impossible to prove you didn’t shoot someone when asked to provide the gun that you didn’t shoot them with. This is in essence what they were being asked.
Thank God that they were exnerated. Now when is the real criminal, the accuser, going to jail?

Posted by: Don POettygrove | April 14, 2007, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

It seems to me that he spells his name incorrectly. It should be spelled “MORON”. His bias is evident by comments such as “elite institutions, these young men will get on with their privileged lives.”
Is he jealous or saying that the crime against these young men is not real. If anything he should campaign against false accusations of anyone who does not have the means to fight them. It is nearly impossible to prove oneself innocent when assumed guilty. That is why our system is intended to presume innocence.
It is impossible to prove you didn’t shoot someone when asked to provide the gun that you didn’t shoot them with. This is in essence what they were being asked.
Thank God that they were exnerated. Now when is the real criminal, the accuser, going to jail?

Posted by: Don Pettygrove | April 14, 2007, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Mr. Moran,
What ever happened to reporting the facts and informing the public about topic or story and letting your audience make up their own mind. Clearly, you don’t trust you audience’s ability to make up their own minds and this drives your agenda.
Geo. Young

Posted by: George Young | April 14, 2007, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

What an ass!
Mr. Moran raises “blame the victim” to a completely new level in this screed.
These young men were declared INNOCENT, the prosecutor abused his power for political gain, and an evil or disturbed woman attempted to ruin the lives of three INNOCENT men.
What part of these events does Mr. Moran not understand?
This column not only shows an incredible level of tactlessness, it also shows that Mr. Moran is oblivious to the intolerable miscarriage of justice that was perpetrated in Durham. These young men were badly misused; INNOCENT of any crime, their lives were torn apart by the accuser, the police, the prosecutor, the school personnel, the community, media seeking “activists” and, of course, the news media (who, once again, went into yet another feeding frenzy over a sleazy story and basically misreported all of the facts in the case until the day the State’s Attorney General laid them out for everyone…and yet even still, Mr. Moran is to oblivious to understand these simple truths).
Maybe Mr. Moran should look into another line of work, one more suited to his opinionated worldview and limited intellectual abilities.

Posted by: TMG | April 14, 2007, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Terry Moran, you are the privelaged on in this story. The Duke boys, rich or poor, were falsely accused. You have the privelage of spewing this crap.

Posted by: Tim C. | April 14, 2007, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Terry-Let’s be honest, you are just jealous of these Duke players and their families. In your sick dememted mind you know very well that this case stunk to high heaven. However, to the liberal news media, the white lacrosse players are not your ideal “victim”(black,women,gay,immigrants,etc..)that the media like to portray. I am sure you wrote the same article about O.J. Simpson.

Posted by: TJK | April 14, 2007, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

The media no longer does news. All we have are editorials. Editorials are fine, just absolutely no news.

Posted by: Phillip Scoggins | April 14, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

According to Terry Moran, I should despise the Duke players for wanting at least one white stripper at their party. I wonder if Terry Moran’s significant other is white? Does/did he date black people? If not, what a racist pig he is! How dare men have attractions to women of a certain ethnic background! Did Terry sell his body to anyone in order to pay for college? How dare he sail through college – I don’t care if his parents scrimped and saved to pay his tuition, or if they had the forsight to study or work hard to achieve good jobs, did the right things, saved their money so they could give themselves and their kids a good life – the American dream. How racist and unjust it is for white people to help their kids in life. To liberals, the American dream is for bigots and oppressors, with the caveat that wealthy liberals themselves are excluded from the label. White kids do not deserve help and guidance from their parents in life, they don’t deserve a thing. Or kids who study or practice hard and who make personal sacrifices to excel at something, they don’t deserve a thing either, unless of course they’re a minority, or the child of a liberal. Terry Moran should, in keeping with his progressive beliefs, resign from his privileged position and insist that it be filled by a less fortunate minority. Competence is irrelevent. In fact, it would be best filled by a black female stripper with a long criminal history. Unlike him, she deserves it.
Terry Moran states basically that:
1)”And there are so many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct in this country who never get the …high profiled, high-minded vindication”
2)Wronged children of the white upperclass don’t deserve sympathy
Terry Moran:
1)Is a high profile journalist who can report, but doesn’t, on the very prosecutorial misconduct of the underprivileged he bemoans.
2)Is a member of the white upperclass he condemns.
Terry Moran is a rabid hypocrite.
Why doesn’t Terry Moran, the white, upperclass, elitist journalist resign from his undeserved and privileged position and insist it be filled by an underprivileged minorty?

Posted by: loveslife | April 14, 2007, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Appears to me ABC and this know it all smug, elitest reporter is in CYA mode for the electronic media. It was the news reporting media that painted the picture of the Duke boys being guilty because they fit the template the left has of America. It isn’t the evidence that counts it’s the seriousness of the charge. The template is accuser black, a minority. Accusing rich or seemingly rich white boys. So the accuser must be right seeing the accuser is a minority. The hell with the evidence that shows otherwise.

Posted by: hk419285 | April 14, 2007, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

This is what prejudice is all about — not liking someone because of their race, class, sex, etc.. So it’s bad to be against blacks but ok to not care about rich white kids?
If rich white kids can be treated this way, how about the rest of us?
And gee, isn’t the dope that wrote this column rich and white? A member of the media elite who control opinion in this country. Maybe we shouldn’t care too much what happens to him.

Posted by: aab | April 14, 2007, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

There are men who have served decades in prison only to be found innocent after spending 10-20 years of their life behind bars.
Posted by: NaDine
Yes. And the most surprising and unmentioned aspect of this is that most of them are overwhelmingly white, it’s inarguable. But that isn’t what the press wants to show, so it isn’t mentioned. Studies show whites are in fact treated more harshly by the justice system, so studies are ignored and myths presented and maintained.
Mr. Moran is merely trying to curry favor with his bosses and their seemingly endless anti-white take on stories. But that’s their agenda, and that’s what fuels Mr. Moran’s drive. He writes this drivel because he knows which side his bread is buttered on. There’s a good chance he was told to write this the way things seem to be.
The girl is not a ‘troubled fantasist’ as Mr. Moran and the rest of the media claim. She is typcial of a number of blacks in the US who are canny enough to realize that they will have the media and hence law enforcement on their side if they can scream racism as the hunt for the great white defendants continues in the national media. She is nothing more than scheming liar a la Tawana Brawley.
Look up rape statistics at the Dept. of Justice website and then tell us the media, people like Mr. Moran and his ilk, aren’t lying and distorting. Things are exactly the opposite of what is being presented. We need to ask ourselves why this is. When you find the anwer, then you’ll be able to figure out why someone with so little insight or true analytical ability like Mr. Moran has the job he has.

Posted by: Benjamin Bridge | April 14, 2007, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Wow. So, you’re basically trying to convince us that because these young men come from well-off families, so we should treat them differently in matters of justice and empathy? What a crock!
What continues to shock me is the state of journalism in this country. Perhaps we should change the term to opinionism? Whatever happened to who, what, when, where and why? Nobody needs you opinion, cloaked as news.

Posted by: Scott | April 14, 2007, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

only a sick person lives by the ethic that “misery loves company”.
You make an excellent point by noting that there are many poor people who are victims of overzealous prosecutors but we will never know these people because they are poor and lack the resources to vindicate themselves.
bad point = because these kids attend Duke and are white and had the resources to beat back an out-of-control prosecutor, we shouldn’t feel anything but extremely sorry for them.
Very few people, poor or rich; black, brown or white, would ever be able to look at the world the same way after the Nilfong/media inquisition.

Posted by: don't drag us down | April 14, 2007, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Yes, it is very unfortunate
that there was a rush to
judgment regarding these
players. Is it an injustice?
Yes indeed it is. Does
this sort of affair happen
across our country and
disproportionately to
minorities? Yes it does.
That’s not to say Mr.
Nifong should not be held
completely accountable for
his actions, but we
should put this into
perspective. These men,
will be held by some, to be
martyrs of a system that
has tilted to social norms
and civil rights activists.
Is that the case? Hardly,
but it sure sounds good.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2007, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

What a relief to finally hear someone state the obvious!
There are victims in this world and then there are VICTIMS.
If anyone out there does not believe, now that these three men have been declared INNOCENT, that they will be treated as heroes by upper-class white society, given great jobs, and will get everything else in life that they may or may not have previously been entitled to, then that person is living in a fantasy-land. People hire and reward people who remind them of themselves. Black America takes care of its own. Rich white America takes care if its own – only it is able to do so much better.
Will all of you who go on about how sorry you are for these men still feel sorry for them after they make millions from tell-all books and family connections?
Do any of you out there feel “sorry” for Gary Condit even though he was never charged with a crime? This is not to say that these three men did anything such as wife-beating that was as heinous as what Simpson did, it is merely to say someone who is the victim of unfounded accusations or a travesty of justice should not get a free pass simply because the system failed all of us.
Funny how few feel sorry for Richard Jewell, the heroic police officer who was accused of the 1996 Atlanta Olympics bombings and who has been defamed by the Atlanta-Journal Constitution. But then again, Jewell is not rich, is overweight, and lives with his mother. People assume, therefore, that he’s lower-class and can “take it,” and also assume that because the Duke players went to Duke that they must have earned their privileged place in society and should be pitied because the veil of privilege was ever so slightly pierced. Oh, and they are athletes too, which means they (unlike O.J., of course) must be special indeed.
I feel sorry for people who have lived clean lives trying to make their way through the world whose lives are REALLY turned upside down by the accusation of having committed a crime. They often lack the friends, the money and the resources to survive such an affair, and don’t have prosperity waiting for them when they are exonerated.
The status of the victim shouldn’t matter when we deliberate as to what pity he is entitled to, but it does.. In the Duke case, the status of the accuser certainly did, so let’s quit imposing the double standard.
The victim in this case – the thing that was raped in this case, as many have said – is the law. Would that we all pray for IT to recover, because no amount of money or connections thrown at it can make it recover – only a much harder act – the acts of good and decent people everywhere – can make that happpen.
How many of you cry for the law more than the three players? Probably not enough to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. And that is the real tragedy.

Posted by: Daniel | April 14, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Wow. If these were 3 black players on the Duke basketball team how would this have turned out with you? If they had been vindicated it would have been because they were black not rich. But because these guys have their parents income on their side they must be the bad guys. Typical liberal crap from the big 3.

Posted by: Jason Schwartz | April 14, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Well he would probably know about the white privelige club. Notice how few in the media step aside and let minorities have THERE slots. All the while bemoaning privelige. Like the 3 white anchors. And Terry himself. Maybe they should lead by example? I didnt think so. Hippocrite thy name is Terry.

Posted by: scooter | April 14, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

When I last looked none of the transgressions that you say the three are actually guilty of is a crime.
And being charged with assault is a bit different than being convicted.
Moral of the story: Don’t hire a lunatic to perform at a strip party.

Posted by: John Turner | April 14, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

In a word, bullcrap. These three young men were able to survive a deliberate assault on their right to due process only because they were fortunate enough to have resources. The message ought to be, “If it can happen to them, it can happen to any of us.” And it does. Take the neglected case of “Artie” Wheeler, thrown in jail without bail over a misdemeanor, because there was no law covering his “real” crime, which was holding a politically unpopular opinion about race relations. Not only did Wheeler get unsympathetic media coverage, some of the MSM outlets have actually deleted the shameful story of his arrest and coercion from their archives. Or, we could discuss the incident of malicious prosecution that I personally experienced eight years ago. (Some time later, when I am calm enough…)
Moran may have forgotten this, but being charged with a crime is different from being convicted of having committed it. Thus, the remark about Finnerty’s 2005 problem borders on slander.
The scandal here is that there are so many cases of false arrest and malicious prosecution that go unreported. But that is not the fault of Evans, Finnerty and Seligman; it’s the failing of the so-called news media to report these very real cases of governmental tyranny. Apparently the decision-makers believe that the bread-and-circuses approach (Anna Nicole Smith, Mel Gibson, Michael Richards) approach to selecting stories is better for the bottom line. And they are probably accurate. If people realized just how badly others like themselves are mistreated by government, the entire social contract might just come apart at the seams. In which case, Moran and numerous others would be out their well-paid jobs.

Posted by: StanM | April 14, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Don’t feel bad for them being falsely accused because they were white and rich?
Quit trying to divide people between racial lines.
Articles like this keep racism alive and well.

Posted by: Pirateco | April 14, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

WOW, so some boys get drunk at a college party and they pay over a million a piece to defend themselves against someone who wants to take them to the cleaners for life and we should not feel sorry for them? Pal, without knowing you I would be willing to bet you have been to some wild parties as well. You should be ashamed of yourself. They will be paying for this for the rest of there lives….thanks to people like you.
Liberal hypocrites!

Posted by: Michael Brailsford | April 14, 2007, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

I can’t believe some comments from some sick people here. The boys will be alright because they are rich? Big deal if they have been wronged because they are rich and white? It is this double standard that keeps our country from being truly united. Sick minded people think the laws and our rights should be kept from some citizens because they may be more priviledged just shows how dangerous left wing liberal thinking really is.

Posted by: steven | April 14, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Wow. Cant believe what I just read. These men were unjustly accused and prosected in the press for a crime they did not commit. This idiot Terry Moran should look in the mirro and ask himself if he’d feel the same way if he was wrobly accused of a crime he did not commit.

Posted by: MICHAEL | April 14, 2007, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Whenever injustice is being done, we need to feel for the victims. These men had a false accusation made against them, we should not be saying that it is ok because they went to a good school, this is just another racist comment. I want to hear Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and all the media issue a public apology to these men and their families. Your comments is another form of RACISM. You should be ashamed of your self, and pray to God that something like this does not happen to you.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2007, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Talk about narrow minded. Don’t feel sorry for the Duke players?
These men were innocent! Just because they were the children of rich parents with a life full of contacts they should not be worth our pity?
This is how far the media has gone to the left. Whites are discreminated against daily. Even at Duke a white person must be something special to get acceptance over a minority applicant because of racial preferences. Does a poor, white, average student get the same scrutiny for admissions as a Black student with the same GPA? Hell no! If the stripper had been white and the players black would they have been prosectuted on so little evidence? It’s more likely Al Sharpton and the muslim gangsters with the black panther movement would be marching on campuse threatening social disobediance if they were tried.
Just imagine if the Duke players got the same protection from the White community and media darlings as say OJ Simpson, who was guilty.
Terry Moran has some guilty feelings about being white. He judges the players on racial epithats, and an assault in 2005, so what?
Should Terry be judged on the derogative words used by him in private against say.. Republicans? I’m sure Terry is of the same leftist mind to yell “Racist” at every white republican who gets the better of him in a debate.
ABC is no longer the trust news organization it once was. Now the are news makers, not reporters. If this case had not had the mountain of press it did Nifong (a good Democrat and contienous observor during Viet Nam) would have probably dropped the charges instead of seeing it as a way to soilidfy his black base during an election.
I feel sorry for those boys, wrongly accused and then some Ass Ho at ABC says we shouldn’t feel to sorry for them because their parents are rich, and Terry’s weren’t.
Let this little lesson sink in to those minds of mush for you readers in school. This is the true face of Political Correctness (PC) thought. It doesn’t matter if they were innocent it is all about how you feel. Not about the reality.

Posted by: Stewart W | April 14, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

It was the kind of short hand Moran uses in this piece that I believe led to the student prosecution in the first place. Once someone is named as a suspect of is indicted all of their past is viewed through a distorted lens. We fill in their back-story for them, and make the case in our mind- I certainly did with Richard Jewell in the Atlanta Olympic Bombing as well as in the Duke Case. Their parents are well off, they had a stag party, whoever ordered the strippers for the stag party might like white women sexually more than they do African-American women sexually, some person or persons yelled deplorable racial epithets at the stripers, and one of the accused had a history of assault.
Coming from a similar background as the Duke students, I understand how Moran jumped to conclusions as to the students guilt by applying personalities to these men and thinking he knew their type. I don’t understand his inability to truly make Moran’s inability to make peace with his bias and stereotyping. He doesn’t like these students but he doesn’t know these students. That the reporter understands that a prosecutor, for whatever reason, did this to these students, while not feeling true sympathy, is upsetting. It shows a true misunderstanding of his job, or some lingering issues that cloud judgment. Moran turns the old lament on the difficulty of prosecuting rapists on its ear “It’s a shame it happened, but they were asking for it” he says of the accused.
If I were to meet any of the accused, my first thought would be that they were accused of rape and of their past as the press presented it to me. Even in a case such as this, in which no doubts of guilt or innocence remains, an illogical but real stigma persists. What underlies Moran’s entire piece is that and Old Boys Club will take care of these students, as it wouldn’t to a disadvantaged person who was also wrongfully prosecuted. Maybe that Club doesn’t exist as monothicaly as Moran would like to believe. Maybe Moran doesn’t understand the limited reach of relative wealth. What the Duke students know is that every potential boss they meet, woman they would like to date, jury they may have to appear before will know this story. This is what the falsely prosecuted must live with, and what Moran coldly doesn’t understand.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Terry– Do you need your job more than staying after Al Sharpton for his comments about the Duke Lacrose Case or Does White Imus get fired for comments about a Black team and Al Sharpton gets a pass about his comments of 3 white Duke students– Will ABC let you pursue a clear double standard here- Ball is in your court Terry

Posted by: Isaac | April 14, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

You should be ashamed of yourself on several fronts. How foolish you sound when you try to say that because these young men are from well-to-do families that they’ll get over it in a week or so. What is the matter with you?
A sociopath is someone who can not relate to normal feelings and therefore can not empathize with other people.
Are you a sociopath, Terry Moran?
You have written a sour-grapes hit piece that is beneath contempt. Upset that you can’t beat some “rich white boys” into the ground for another year, Terry? It is despicable that you try to tarnish their innocence of the charges. Got that? Innocent of the charges! You should apologize to these young men for being a self-loathing petty white guy.

Posted by: Anna | April 14, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

The volume of responses containing hysterics about this (lone dissenting voice) being evidence of liberal control of the media is mostly because Drudge linked to this page. So all the Drudgies can chill out now. The point has been made.
Clearly this case provokes strong response from that particular population of readers because it hits on the dominate social group’s anxieties about subordinates stepping out of line. In fact, it plays in to every cultural myth out there. Out-of-control women accusing innocent men of rape. Sexually promiscuous black women and good, white boys. All in the South. It is the perfect storm.
But the problem is that this case is not symbolic of anything epidemic except our race/class/gender anxieties.
Men rape women. This is not a fact specific to our time and place. It is pretty much just true, and always has been.
White people generally have more power, money, and influence than black people.
The sexual politics of the South have long included race and class narratives.
Some rich white guys threw a party in which they employed some black women to provide sexual services.
The math is there.

Posted by: Josh | April 14, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Wow! It’s “journalists” like you, Mr. Moran, who got us into this mess. Your lack of logic is frightening. We shouldn’t feel sorry for these boys whose lives were ruined because they are white and from money? I guess my husband and I shouldn’t work too hard to have a comfortable lifestyle. That would give my children something to be ashamed of. Maybe I should raise them to be poor strippers.
Furthermore, I married a college lacrosse player and my son is playing baseball at a Division 1 program. I can tell you that anyone who is able to accomplish this has only done so through years of hard work and discipline. We have heard that mentioned a lot when it comes to the Rutger’s girls basketball team, and rightly so. Why do we only hear that the Duke boys are priveleged jocks? And I don’t know where you went to college, but big drinking parties are par for the course. The strippers was a very bad call, but it’s not illegal. No one deserved what happened to these boys, black or white, rich or poor. All of you journalists who were more than happy to throw the presumption of innocence out the window should be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: CM | April 14, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Wow! It’s “journalists” like you, Mr. Moran, who got us into this mess. Your lack of logic is frightening. We shouldn’t feel sorry for these boys whose lives were ruined because they are white and from money? I guess my husband and I shouldn’t work too hard to have a comfortable lifestyle. That would give my children something to be ashamed of. Maybe I should raise them to be poor strippers.
Furthermore, I married a college lacrosse player and my son is playing baseball at a Division 1 program. I can tell you that anyone who is able to accomplish this has only done so through years of hard work and discipline. We have heard that mentioned a lot when it comes to the Rutger’s girls basketball team, and rightly so. Why do we only hear that the Duke boys are priveleged jocks? And I don’t know where you went to college, but big drinking parties are par for the course. The strippers was a very bad call, but it’s not illegal. No one deserved what happened to these boys, black or white, rich or poor. All of you journalists who were more than happy to throw the presumption of innocence out the window should be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: CM | April 14, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

I am sick of everyone making this a race thing. These guys had their lives run through the mud because some woman lied. Look at the facts, not race, not money, not what school they went too. I am so glad to hear they had their day. By the way, they are not going to charge the woman with anything, they should throw the book at her. It sends the wrong message to woman brining false statements towards men which happens all the time as well. Where is Al Sharpton now?

Posted by: Rob | April 14, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

A previous poster derides these young men for being able to afford million dollar legal representation whereas most blacks cannot.
Wonder if he’s ever heard of OJ Simpson?
Frankly, black Americans are responsible for a hugely disproportionate amount of crime in this country. Tony Blair just said as much about crime in England. If black America could clean its act up homicides, robberies, and assaults would plummet. So would the deaths of young black men, as 95% of all black murders are black on black.
But no, we have guys like this reporter who sow jealousy and “hate the rich white boys” BS infecting blacks. They’re told at every turn to be jealous of whites, that its whites holding them back, that they’re entitled because the system is stacked against them.
What a sad, sad crock.

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

It’s the best story on the case I have been. Terry, you did the right thing and I am saddened by the response to your blog. America, grow up. That stripper should have never been at the party.

Posted by: More Fire | April 14, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

The author of this vindictive peice is so quick to say there would not have been the media attention to their vindication if not for the color of their skin and their “privliged station in life”. He is correct but only because this case would never have been in the media in the first place if these had been basketball or football players of a different race from another univesity. In fact the only media coverage that would have gotten when that loud mouth low life Sharpton would have started screaming his racist excuses for how the criminals were actualy the victims. It is time the country got pass race and income and started to worry about right and wrong.

Posted by: Ron | April 14, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

What an ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS commentary presented by Terry Moran. The flaws in his thinking are so obvious to even the least
discerning person so as to not need defending/debunking. According
to Terry, and many racial activists, two wrongs should make a right. A PERCEIVED unfair preference for whites in the workplace should be countered by a legislated affirmative action ACTUAL preference for minorities regardless of competency. According to Terry, if there are
minorities that don’t receive proper legal representation, then neither should whites. THAT’S ONLY FAIR, RIGHT?! Terry, next time you’d do well to let someone else read your juvenile ideas before you post them. Maybe
even your Mommy or Daddy. I feel YOU have given whites a GROSS
misrepresentation in this article. Thank god Nifong is also white!

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

And people wonder why the media is held in such low esteem in this country, this post (Moran) simply oozes with disgust; disgust that he and others in the media will not be allowed to pillar these young men and use a high profile rape case in the old South to somehow make some grand social statements about society.
Your allusion to the Rutgers Women’s Basketball team and this case is also illustrative; somehow in your warped view their “victimhood” is greater than that of the Duke Lacrosse Team-that could not be further from the truth, the only similarity between the two instances is that they both involved college sports teams that the vast majority of America has no interest in and only became aware of by craven media figures like yourself.
Unlike the Rutgers Team, who simply were victims of a distasteful racist joke, the Duke players had the entire weight of the State of North Carolina trying to destroy their lives, put them in jail-I assume they and their family had to pay huge sums of money to defend them, money they will never get back, their name was splashed across the papers and they were spoke of with derision by craven media jackals like you.
Additionally, your post exposes the passive racism of media types like you, by insinuating that the Rutgers Teams players do not have the same opportunity for success as the Duke players, you diminish these women and what they can accomplish. Anyone who watched the press conference of these young women couldn’t help but realize they will be successful in what ever they chose to do. Obviously, a narrow-minded soft bigot like you looks at that team and only sees “Black Women” and immediately dismisses any chance they have to succeed in life. You should be ashamed of yourself Mr. Moran.
Finally, what really angers me about your post is you don’t take ANY responsibility for what happened to these young men, you and your media pals when after these boys with a vengeance, the DA may have been the person wielding the knife at these boys, but it was media who profited off he spectacle. Instead of insulting these young men as you did in your post you should be apologizing to them.

Posted by: Ryan | April 14, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

The only thing we know these guys are guilty of is being at a party with strippers. Most men in America have been guilty of this same “crime” at some point in their life. No one should have to go through the pain and humiliation of a false rape allegation just because they saw a stripper.
This article is more outrageous that Imus’s comments because Moran is serious. I demand that Moran be fired immediately.

Posted by: Scott | April 14, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

You are such a creep for trying to justify what happened to these boys.
You know what eles isn’t a crime? Being born into a privelaged family.
Next time you might also want to proof read your article before posting it. (read your last sentence)

Posted by: Sports McCooler | April 14, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

You are such a creep for trying to justify what happened to these boys.
You know what eles isn’t a crime? Being born into a privelaged family.
Next time you might also want to proof read your article before posting it. (read your last sentence)

Posted by: Collinsworth | April 14, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Per Always You Are Wrong.These three kids are victims of a disturbed girl. We need to speak from a position of evidence, not whether past actions by these three kids are right or wrong. This is about the Duke Lacross incident.
The girl in question has fabricated past incidents of rape and supposed crimes against her on several different occussions. She has lied to the district attorney will she be prosecuted?
The fact these three kids are so called privileged makes no difference, they have just has much right to our presumption of innocent until proven guilty.
Lastly, Why do all far left wing people or media organizations always deal in theory and not in reality?
Thank you, TCR

Posted by: Tom Ricci | April 14, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Per Always You Are Wrong.These three kids are victims of a disturbed girl. We need to speak from a position of evidence, not whether past actions by these three kids are right or wrong. This is about the Duke Lacross incident.
The girl in question has fabricated past incidents of rape and supposed crimes against her on several different occussions. She has lied to the district attorney will she be prosecuted?
The fact these three kids are so called privileged makes no difference, they have just has much right to our presumption of innocent until proven guilty.
Lastly, Why do all far left wing people or media organizations always deal in theory and not in reality?
Thank you, TCR

Posted by: Tom Ricci | April 14, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

…this just in. Terry’s next column was leaked in advance of publication. It’s titled, ‘Don’t feel too sorry for NJ Governor Corzine.’ His rationale? He’s rich enough to afford medical care.

Posted by: JJR | April 14, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Terry
From a Clinton apologist rmember it was just sex it seems a bit hypocritical that you are now some clarion for moral virtues, and behavior. But I am glad that you are consistently showing your true colors and it diminishes your future ability to be someone objective with real news
How about reporting the truth a democrat Nifong used the megaphone of this story to enhance his election chances and he did not even interview the accuser. How can we now not feel anything but sympathy for those boys.

Posted by: Eric | April 14, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Terry-
So in a few years if your rich white 10 year old daughter has to “lawyer up” I hope that you will let her stand on her own two feet. I trust we will not see you come out in your white knights suit, check book in hand & team of lawyers in tow to help her. This after all would put you in the same light as the “Dukies.”

Posted by: joe mcbride | April 14, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

I agree with the previous post that says that it was the “boomer” generation that came out and promoted immoral sexual behavior as “cool”. Why isn’t it cool when a white person does it rather than a black person (or a pink person, or rich person…)? Quit with the racial / privledged card. Bad behavior is, well, bad no matter who does it.
Why can’t common sense prevail in our communities? The left leaning media power elite (mostly of “boomer” age) take some responsibility for reporting stories without objectivity. What every happend to reporting the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but? I am so sick and tired of the “media” being rightous and the “white” people being the problem. Give it up already. Maybe the GLBT gang has it right with their rainbow push coalition. Bully the masses — get your issue all over the media. Citizens against lies unite! Take back our streets from the PC cultural police. Make media outlets responsible for what they promote. If a story seems like there are inconsistancies, report on them, don’t make the facts fit the ideaology. Write something worth reading! — A message from California.

Posted by: Eve | April 14, 2007, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Mr. Moran, Your journalistic integrity is a JOKE! Our society has now condemned being white and being successful! The very reason these three INNOCENT boys were accussed was because they were white, and considered privileged. What is to become of our country with morons like you?

Posted by: Christine | April 14, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

A major point is being miss by most of the media and this commentary.
The rush to judgement on these players was due to race. A black woman cry rape by white men.
Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Black Panthers warp time and space to show up in protest.
Innconet until proven guilty I always thought was a hallmark of this country.
The D.A. in this case use those racial frees so he can stay in office.
About these players guess what those charges even false will haunt them for the rest of their lives.
The same time they were cleared what was the being noise about.
Imus and saying a few words that can be heard on any rap station.
We are suppose to feel sorry for a few women who before than never heard of Imus.
Yep they got their pound of flesh and Imus is now gone.
When are we going to see the same happen to those who make outragous claims against anyone?
So the next time we hear someone get falsely accused like Duke we should run a formula to compute income, what race, who else was falsely accused, and what loud mouth comes to put them down before we decide the level of outrage if they are cleared.
THERE SHOULD BE 1 STANDARD FOREVER ONE PERIOD!
If someone is falsely accused no matter race or class they should get an apologize.
Those who rush to judgement should pay for the legal fees to used to clear their names.

Posted by: Mark | April 14, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Absolute garbage! Another example of whats wrong with the media. They employ morons!

Posted by: Myron D. Lair | April 14, 2007, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

The Duke players’ conduct was not choirboy material and they do happen to come from well heeled families, but that does excuse in any conceivable way their being targeted for a political prosecution by a Democratic candidate in the midst of an election cycle? That is what the real story is here. Nifong should be hung out to dry in a big way, and it is patently obvious to anyone with a brain what was going on here.
The second obvious fact is that we have an editorialist here with a chip on his shoulder for the well-heeled. Certainly, don’t cry for the Duke boys…but don’t attack them as pariahs for engaging in foolish college behavior either. If engaging in stupid college tricks should be considered a crime, then our prison system is much to small to hold all the guilty…and exactly what kind of stupid stunts did you engage in while in college, Mr. Moran? Save your tsk-tsking for the real despots of the world like Mssr. Putin, Castro, that crackpot dictator of Iran, etc. They are the guys smoking a cigar in a warehouse full of explosives.

Posted by: Boots Davis | April 14, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

One of the most intellectually bankrupt things I have read this month. No wonder people believe that you don’t need brains, just looks, to be a “journalist”… I’ll never get back these 3 minutes it took for me to read this. My intellect would have been better served reading Dilbert.

Posted by: Duh! | April 14, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

EVERY time you read a story by Terry Moran, remember this article in which his true bias and prejudice shows. This same cavalier attitude toward the freedoms and rights of his fellow citizens is in all of his reporting. Class hatred, self hatred, bigotry and ignorance are all part and parcel of Terry.
Today, Terry stands clearly revealed for who he is.

Posted by: Enoch McCarter | April 14, 2007, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

I agree it is deplorable for the team to specifically request “at least one white striper”. This is America!!! White, black, asian, hispanic, and women of all races should be allowed to strip at their party if they want too!

Posted by: David | April 14, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Are you kidding me? These 3 individuals were convicted and sentenced by the likes of Jesse Jackson and his buddy AL before any of the facts were known. The important thing to remember here is that their names will always be tied to the word “rape”. As an example, enter one of the names into a google search and look at the results count. In this day and age, that information will always be available for his future family to read. That is why this isn’t fair! Does it happen to others, of course it does. Does it make it right, hell no! Look, the reason the country is screwed up is simple. The “Black” and “White” american communities do not talk. It really is that simple. At what point are poeple going to finally understand that “words” are simply just that “words”. I’m sick of hearing about the banning of this word and that word. Does anyone really, I mean really believe banning a word is the answer, let alone a valid and feesible solution. Get real people! We the American public have ourself to blame for this mess. It’s obvious that a crime against a black individual by group of upper-class white men is a news story by the American media. Some one is sitting reading this right now saying “you can’t say that” or “please, black crime on white people is more of a story”. But think about it, why was the Imus issue such a story. What he did was wrong and unacceptable but did it deserve all the attention the media gave to the subject? I think it was a situation that he needed to resolve with these women that he hurt, not with every person that wanted to add their two cents. Then comes JJ and Al Sharpton to the rescue, does anyone really believe that these are the individuals to lecture us on the rights and wrongs of “free speech”. Look at the background of these individuals they have a vested interest in issues like this, they make money from them. It’s public record, do the research. The same is true for the media, “Insert skin color here” owners of these media companies love this. They make tons of dollars because they know the country is split down the middle and they want to make sure it stays that way. If people would just talk, talk about what the real deal is then this stupid thinking that we all hate each other would finally be resolved. I dream of the day that skin color doesn’t consume 90% of the evening news.

Posted by: Tim | April 14, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

A person is a person regardless of race
A wronged person is a wronged person regardless of race.
Let Sharpton and Jackson prove the “Rainbow” of their Coalition and ask for the Duke three apology.

Posted by: bluestarj2 | April 14, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Nifong, the judge who let this debacle go on for over a year, and most of all the perp who wrongly accused these guys (her second attempt at this) and assaulted a police officer (yes, she has a rap sheet)…
…these individuals need to hang.
This idiot columnist is just another myopic liberal whose entire worldview is shrunk down to the a war between the haves and have-nots.
Garden-variety liberal class warfare. Wonder if he cares to comment on the affluent students and university staff who essentially burned these guys in effigy for months on campus.
How about those two rich race-baiting clowns, Sharpton and Jackson?
These guys used their parents’ wealth to underscore their innocence, not get away with murder (OJ Simpson – one of the darkest episodes of “justice” in this nation’s history), or to shakedown corporations (Jackson), or to support trash looking to put innocent white men behind bars (Tawana Brawley and now this idiot).

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

White cowardly traitor to American Principals & values, Terry Moron is disgusting and allowing haters like him media time is destroying the once great America. Normal people need to stand up against these subliminal infiltrators out to destroy good. Religious Americans may view this as good v. evil; personally I believe Terry Moron, Katie Couric, Dan Rather, etc are simply morons, too unsophisticated to realize they are being manipulated by the left-wing anti-American cult. Terry, please move to CUBA.

Posted by: James Gordon | April 14, 2007, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Mr. Kevin San Angelo is right on. This is classic “blaming the victim”. Are you saying they “asked for it”? Because that defense does not fly in other situations, why should it in this case?

Posted by: mike p | April 14, 2007, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Your article is very bad taste and way off point. Don’t take the stance of someone who works hard for something,doesn’t deserve their rights like ALL Americans.

Posted by: Brian | April 14, 2007, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Sorry we couldn’t have an American Bolshevic Revolution that you would obviously feel much prouder to cover. Maybe next week will be a better one for you. You poor little mainstream news reporters! I don’t know how you get by.

Posted by: Curt409 | April 14, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

“The math is there.”
posted by Josh.
Allow me to educate you (and Terry)on how the legal system works in this country Josh:
We don’t prosecute people because the math is there.
We prosecute them because the EVIDENCE is there.

Posted by: David | April 14, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

I love class warfare pieces such as this one. It shows all the more how some folks will not be happy until there are no tall poppies left in the field. Can this author not see for himself what a bigoted opinion he expresses … all in the spirit of ‘equality.’

Posted by: NOTR | April 14, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

You think because the boys are from Duke, this incident won’t follow them the rest of their lives. Wrong, it will follow them and ruin their careers. Obviously, you have never been falsely accused. Try riding an elevator with a minor and let them make an accusation. Your life and career is done, over, kaput with no one feeling sorry for you. If every one wasn’t so sexually insecure, then stories like these wouldn’t carry the headlines. Millions can be made on a sexual accusation thanks to tort reform. People are becoming paranoid being alone with someone of the opposite sex or children. Why, because false allegations go unpunished by law enforcement. Even though it is against the law, the person making the false allegation goes free. Try prosecuting a few of these false allegations, sending them to prison and watch how fast they stop. Wake up America and look at how many innocent people are being let out of prison in Dallas, TX alone. Our judicial and law enforcement system is broken and driven by people trying to make a name for themselves instead of upholding the laws of this nation. Just when you think it won’t happen to you, guess again it will. So be vigilant, especially if you have money or a professional insurance policy, because you are the most likely target. If you are African-American, Sharpton and Jackson will try your case in the forum of public opinion, regardless whether they are right or wrong, never mind having the facts. They are the racists, because they only defend their own race. I think all sexual allegation victims need to undergo a lie detector test, before any taxpayer money is wasted on a trial. Let’s get real America and use the technology we have at hand in order to stop any abuse of the system, otherwise get ready to pay bail and huge attorney fees.
Terry, you certainly did not look at this topic in a very objective manner. Next time…THINK!

Posted by: WakeUp America | April 14, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Mr. Moran-
There are obvious problems with your article. Did you not think at all before it was written?
1. You have just excused injustice as long as some criteria are met. This is the same argument used by racist bigots, profilers, etc. They simply have different criteria.
2. If you think for one moment that the American people do not know this attitude of yours will seep into every report you ever do, you are “self-lying” as well as “self-loathing”. You cannot seperate your opinions from objective news.
Thanks for showing us your true colors.

Posted by: Scott Wayne | April 14, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Forget what I just wrote as an example of Terry’s racism. Just use his own words or lack therof.
Terry uses, as one example, the past conduct of ONE of the Duke lacrosse players (“Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.”) as a reason NOT to sympathize with them, right?
Does he ever point out the past of the accuser? Nope. That’s apparently off-limits to Terry.
Perhaps because of her race?

Posted by: StrangeCo | April 14, 2007, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

I get it! Moran is an embedded reporter! I’d just like to know from what marxist enclave!

Posted by: Curt409 | April 14, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Terry, does it mean anything that the comments you’re getting are not only immense, but running 5-1 against you?
What “special treatment” did they get? An examination by the AG of the facts when it was obvious that if a trial had gone forward that a huge monetary damage would have resulted against Durham and N.C.? That’s a reasonable and measured response to a potential suit. That’s not special treatment, that’s risk management.
So they hired strippers. I don’t think that’s a crime, and by today’s standards, it’s not even hooliganism. Are you arguing it’s immoral? Since when have you become this nation’s conscience? Are you clean-as-a-whistle? If you were falsely accused would you not want to be vindicated?
Justice is not subject to a vote, but if it was a vote, it would go against you 90-10. I suspect that ABC and your editors have a tin ear toward the sentiment of the nation, or somehow see this an affront on some liberal cause. It’s not. Liberal principals are the equal protection under the law of all races, perhaps a concept you can’t get behind because you want to protect one over the other. Get with it. You may need to reexamine your liberal certificates.

Posted by: Shinypate | April 14, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

You’re sick. You’re discriminating against these boys bc they are privileged? It’s NEVER ok to unjustly charge an individual for a crime that was never committed. Sins of their past are irrelevant to the fact that they were not only found “not guilty” but declared innocent. That rarely happens in our judicial system. A white DA used a mentally disturbed black girl to accuse privileged white college boys for political gain. There’s nothing ok about that.

Posted by: Shauna Mosley | April 14, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

If there was EVER any doubt as to why this country is in the trouble it is in – this ‘reporter’ – and I use that term VERY disrespectfully, has cerainly shown why. Why anyone would give this ignorant media jerk any credibility, is beyond me – and that now certainly extends to his employer, ABC News. When will the American public wake up and stop listening to the garbage spewed by the liberal news media!? What’s it going to take? The ignorance portrayed by the writer of this column is a disgrace to the young men at Duke, their families and more than that -it is a disgrace and an outrage to the people of this country.

Posted by: M. M. Mckeiver | April 14, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

You think because the boys are from Duke, this incident won’t follow them the rest of their lives. Wrong, it will follow them and ruin their careers. Obviously, you have never been falsely accused. Try riding an elevator with a minor and let them make an accusation. Your life and career is done, over, kaput with no one feeling sorry for you. If every one wasn’t so sexually insecure, then stories like these wouldn’t carry the headlines. Millions can be made on a sexual accusation thanks to tort reform. People are becoming paranoid being alone with someone of the opposite sex or children. Why, because false allegations go unpunished by law enforcement. Even though it is against the law, the person making the false allegation goes free. Try prosecuting a few of these false allegations, sending them to prison and watch how fast they stop. Wake up America and look at how many innocent people are being let out of prison in Dallas, TX alone. Our judicial and law enforcement system is broken and driven by people trying to make a name for themselves instead of upholding the laws of this nation. Just when you think it won’t happen to you, guess again it will. So be vigilant, especially if you have money or a professional insurance policy, because you are the most likely target. If you are African-American, Sharpton and Jackson will try your case in the forum of public opinion, regardless whether they are right or wrong, never mind having the facts. They are the racists, because they only defend their own race. I think all sexual allegation victims need to undergo a lie detector test, before any taxpayer money is wasted on a trial. Let’s get real America and use the technology we have at hand in order to stop any abuse of the system, otherwise get ready to pay bail and huge attorney fees.
Terry, you certainly did not look at this topic in a very objective manner. Next time…THINK!

Posted by: WakeUp America | April 14, 2007, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Terry, does it mean anything that the comments you’re getting are not only immense, but running 5-1 against you?
What “special treatment” did they get? An examination by the AG of the facts when it was obvious that if a trial had gone forward that a huge monetary damage would have resulted against Durham and N.C.? That’s a reasonable and measured response to a potential suit. That’s not special treatment, that’s risk management.
So they hired strippers. I don’t think that’s a crime, and by today’s standards, it’s not even hooliganism. Are you arguing it’s immoral? Since when have you become this nation’s conscience? Are you clean-as-a-whistle? If you were falsely accused would you not want to be vindicated?
Justice is not subject to a vote, but if it was a vote, it would go against you 90-10. I suspect that ABC and your editors have a tin ear toward the sentiment of the nation, or somehow see this an affront on some liberal cause. It’s not. Liberal principals are the equal protection under the law of all races, perhaps a concept you can’t get behind because you want to protect one over the other. Get with it. You may need to reexamine your liberal certificates.

Posted by: Shinypate | April 14, 2007, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

This putz is a reporter? “had the resources to fight them off”, huh? Well, I guess that just makes it all just fine, huh? So what if their reputations are ruined for the rest of their lives. Nevermind if a lying stripper made their lives hell for the last year and half. Yeah, sure. You’re another MSM hack. It’s probably about time you got out and forged some documents for your next story. Putz.

Posted by: KB | April 14, 2007, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Sounds to me what bothers Mr. Moran the most is the ‘kids are rich’.
A year of their lives has been ‘stolen’. Their reputations tarnished. Their parents money spent.
Pesonally I decry sueing anyone. In this case I would make an exception. SUE SUE SUE

Posted by: rusino | April 14, 2007, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

i don’t feel sorry for them. i’m glad their high priced attorneys managed to save their tails. affluence put to good use. that would have been really wrong.
It may be semantics or culture but what really bothered me was how these young men were referred to as ‘boys’. These were not boys. It’s sickening to see them capitalize on the word when juvenile delinquents are treated as adults by the courts. (no high priced attorneys or damage control publicists to help them)

Posted by: dave jones | April 14, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Again, I agree with the vast majority of the views expressed. Don’t watch ABC news, and if Imus can be fired so should Moran. Rediculous. Imus’ use of words was no more offensive and hurtful than what Moran suggests relative to these three INNOCENT young men. Shameful

Posted by: jc | April 14, 2007, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

I agree with Moran. Don’t feel too sorry for them. They used incredibly bad judgement as adults for participating int the party in the first place. They precipitated the series of circumstacned they found themselves in.

Posted by: Don | April 14, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Again, I agree with the vast majority of the views expressed. Don’t watch ABC news, and if Imus can be fired so should Moran. Rediculous. Imus’ use of words was no more offensive and hurtful than what Moran suggests relative to these three INNOCENT young men. Shameful

Posted by: jc | April 14, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Again, I agree with the vast majority of the views expressed. Don’t watch ABC news, and if Imus can be fired so should Moran. Rediculous. Imus’ use of words was no more offensive and hurtful than what Moran suggests relative to these three INNOCENT young men. Shameful

Posted by: jc | April 14, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Has anyone deriding these innocent men ever even attended a frat house? It’s like a party 24×7.
Just your basic Rutgers dorm has more pot than Columbian fastboat.
The behavior of these guys is typical of their peers. They went through this with their heads held high. I thought their statements were perfect. Not one of them read from a cue card.
I would want any of those guys running my company.
This trash who wrongly accused them and who has a history of doing this, in addition to four or five other crimes…
…she needs to head to jail. Ditto for Nifong.

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

First Mr. Moran must be really Mr. Moron – he is so out in left field with all the other lefties that were so quick to jump on three white kids. Rape is a horrific crime, but to say that these boys have a “cushion” to fall on really dimishes the living hell these guys have gone through. They have lost friends (last I looked money can buy love or true friends). Where is the apology from Jessie and Al – I refuse to use Rev in front of their name for two individuals that give Christianity a bad name – last I read the bible adultry was one of those “thou shall nots”. The lefties in this country are too quick to cry foul when it furthers their cause – if they were consistent with calling fouls – one writer asked why are their 50% blacks in prision – it is because 50% of them commit a crime – seems like something you would have learned in the 5th grade.
Mr. Moron – you should go the same way as Imus – YOUR FIRED!!!! Where is Donald when you need him.

Posted by: Tired of Media | April 14, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Out to LUNCH! When you consider the possibilities if the alleged accuser was not found wanting in truth and character, what would have happened to the accused? Not being able to identify with these three youn men has nothing to do with their guilt or innocence. Too many people wanted the “allegations” to be true and are now disappointed. Seems we need to re-emphasize the US judicial system not only to college students but to “reporters” also. WJM, Vienna, Austria

Posted by: WJM | April 14, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

This is the worst article I have read about the Duke case. Since people have been wrongfully accused of crimes in the past we should not feel bad for them? How about the fact that none of the other cases were national news. How would you feel if you or your son were wrongfully charged with rape and they put his or your face all over every magazine? Walk around in their footsteps for the past year. They just lost one of the best expeirences of their lives due to someone wanting to get reelected. Their parents also had to go to work and face their neighbors and have judgement passed on them because of these false claims of rape. Before going out saying do not feel sorry for these college students, go through their life for a year and see how it feels.

Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2007, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

First Mr. Moran must be really Mr. Moron – he is so out in left field with all the other lefties that were so quick to jump on three white kids. Rape is a horrific crime, but to say that these boys have a “cushion” to fall on really dimishes the living hell these guys have gone through. They have lost friends (last I looked money can buy love or true friends). Where is the apology from Jessie and Al – I refuse to use Rev in front of their name for two individuals that give Christianity a bad name – last I read the bible adultry was one of those “thou shall nots”. The lefties in this country are too quick to cry foul when it furthers their cause – if they were consistent with calling fouls – one writer asked why are their 50% blacks in prision – it is because 50% of them commit a crime – seems like something you would have learned in the 5th grade.
Mr. Moron – you should go the same way as Imus – YOUR FIRED!!!! Where is Donald when you need him.

Posted by: Tired of Media | April 14, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Terry,
I don’t understand why you wrote this. It doesn’t make anything better. It only makes things worse for all concerned. Withdrawing empathy for anyone who deserves it is just cruel. Feeling compassion for one person’s misfortune does nothing to lessen your empathy for others.

Posted by: bob | April 14, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Terry,
I don’t understand why you wrote this. It doesn’t make anything better. It only makes things worse for all concerned. Withdrawing empathy for anyone who deserves it is just cruel. Feeling compassion for one person’s misfortune does nothing to lessen your empathy for others.

Posted by: bob | April 14, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

What’s scarier, innocent white guys who can afford good lawyers or black poor trash that can lie to judges and prosecutors resulting in millions of taxpayer dollars wasted in the service of a falsehood?

Posted by: Ed Richardson | April 14, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

So what if they came up with $800 for the strippers? There were 40+ people there. That’s only a $20 bill per person. And so what if they requested a white stripper. Since when did professing a preference turn you into a racist?
You assume that the black chicks playing basketball are all from hard-scrabble homes and they’re all somehow more worthy of our admiration. That is a racist thought right there — to assume that anyone black is dirt-poor. You don’t know. Maybe their parents are Fortune 500 business people.
You assume that the white boys playing lacrosse are rich boys with privileged lives. Do you know if their parents are divorced? If someone in their family is struggling with an addiction? If any are on scholarship b/c they’re NOT rich? Do you know what it’s like to be called a racist rapist for more than a year by a nutjob who gets Hymietown Jackson to promise to pay for her college?

Posted by: marie | April 14, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Terry,
I don’t understand why you wrote this. It doesn’t make anything better. It only makes things worse for all concerned. Withdrawing empathy for anyone who deserves it is just cruel. Feeling compassion for one person’s misfortune does nothing to lessen your empathy for others.

Posted by: bob | April 14, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

You want a pulitzer? Just wait until real Americans conclude that there is only one way to prevent cancers like you from spreading. Then you’ll have your story.

Posted by: Curt409 | April 14, 2007, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

If Don Imus would have called the stripper in this case a “nappy headed ho”…would he still have his job????
And when will Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson apologize to the Duke lacrosse team?

Posted by: Curt | April 14, 2007, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Hey Terry Moran, I hope your name doesn’t come up on the Washington DC madame’s client list. On second thought, actually, I think I do. Hehehe

Posted by: brian | April 14, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

First Mr. Moran must be really Mr. Moron – he is so out in left field with all the other lefties that were so quick to jump on three white kids. Rape is a horrific crime, but to say that these boys have a “cushion” to fall on really dimishes the living hell these guys have gone through. They have lost friends (last I looked money can buy love or true friends). Where is the apology from Jessie and Al – I refuse to use Rev in front of their name for two individuals that give Christianity a bad name – last I read the bible adultry was one of those “thou shall nots”. The lefties in this country are too quick to cry foul when it furthers their cause – if they were consistent with calling fouls – one writer asked why are their 50% blacks in prision – it is because 50% of them commit a crime – seems like something you would have learned in the 5th grade.
Mr. Moron – you should go the same way as Imus – YOUR FIRED!!!! Where is Donald when you need him.

Posted by: Tired of Media | April 14, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Anyone who thinks that alleged bad behavior equates to justifying a rape charge is just showing one’s lack of intelligence. If one thinks that only poor blacks can be railroaded into jail just shows one’s racial close-minded attitude. Anytime anyone is falsely accused, the accuser show either have to pay a criminal price, or as may be the case with this young lady, she should be required to get some mental help.

Posted by: Don Wayne | April 14, 2007, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Mr. Moran is the typical angry liberal idiot who has a bone to pick with the fraternity boys who probably intimidated him throughout his undergrad years.
Yes, the fraternity boys acted childishly at best, and tested the extremes of behavior, but that’s part of the greek way in colleges. This incident didn’t surprise me in the least, though I am not condoning their inexcusable behavior.
Mr. Moran, though, decides to reach a bit. He states that racial epiphets were hurled at the strippers. Maybe that occurred, but were the accused players making those statements? That can’t be determined. So, mr moran fails, like all liberals, to definitely connect one thing to the next.
Second: strippers are at most bachelor parties. mr. moran obviously was deprived, so he’s jealous of the others that had the opportunity to have fun.
Third: they wanted at least one white stripper. Ok. Big deal…they wanted a diverse selection, including african americans and whites. Obviously didn;t offend the black member of their team.
The young men got great attorneys because their parents actually work for a living and make money, unlike miserable little liberals like you, mr. moran, who just whine about those who have toiled and succeeded.
It will be very difficult for these young men to get gainful employment…i guarantee you that their careers are going to be affected severely by all the unjust negative press they received.
The assault charge on the one frat boy is a separate issue. He may well be guilty in that instance, but it means nothing in this case.
Stop crying about frat boys. While I don’t like their antics either, and am not calling these kids heroes, I do think they were victims of a DA who acted illegally, and like the slithering liberal he is, should be disbarred, and face both criminal and civil suits which leave him a penniless vagrant.

Posted by: Alessandro | April 14, 2007, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

What a moronic article. But I don’t feel too bad saying so since Terry Moran is a privileged white guy. Now the black woman who precipitated the destruction of 3 young (white) men’s lives, should be given special treatment because she is ‘black’?
We need to re-write Judeo-Christian culture (and take all the hurtful words out of the Bible) to take into consideration the accused’s financial status, social position and skin color. (If you do something bad your attorney will probably advise you to get to a tanning parlor ASAP).
Can I call you a nappy-headed moron without knowing the texture of your hair? Well, I’ll just invoke poetic license if that’s still allowed white guys with over $100 in their checking account.
FB

Posted by: Frank Butash | April 14, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Good point about the rich and powerful being able to afford good lawyers and being treated preferentially by the “justice” system. Thanks to that fact, we have a long term Senator from Massachusetts that got drunk and killed a young lady, a former NFL star who killed his ex-wife and a young man, and an ex-President who raped a woman. Kennedy, Simpson and Clinton all had the best lawyers money could buy and they all got away with their crimes. At least, these three kids from Duke were innocent.

Posted by: Drew | April 14, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Terry. Maybe you and Mr Imus can start new show together. Then again, you’re not very popular.

Posted by: kevin | April 14, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Terry. Maybe you and Mr Imus can start new show together. Then again, you’re not very popular.

Posted by: kevin | April 14, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

NaDine wrote: “the number of African-American men who have been charged and found guilty in a rush for judgement…”.
“Rush for judgement”? Like most Blacks, you can only think in shallow cliches – but you can’t even get the cliches right. Blacks don’t need discrimination to be convicted – they get convicted by their behavior. The fact is, when victims are asked to identify the race of their victimizer, it’s the same percentage that gets convicted and sent to prison. That means Blacks are convicted more because they commit more crimes. For example, rape victims say that 50% of the rapists are Black, and 50% convicted of rape are Black – which means there is no discrimination by the justice system.
Blacks are 50 times more likely to rape a White, than a White to rape a Black. Whites do not rape Black women – with few exceptions, Whites do not desire Black women. In fact, the real “lynchable offense” the 3 White boys committed was expressing disappointment that one of the strippers was not desirable.

Posted by: Tania Hyde | April 14, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

It is ridiculous to call for Terry Moran to be fired, it was not right for Imus to be fired. We live in America, you are free to express your view, no matter how uneducated or stupid they may be. However, having read this piece I will always view Moran’s news pieces with an added degree of skepticism about his objectivity. But that is not to say he shouldn’t have the right to express such views.

Posted by: Jordan | April 14, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Terry. Maybe you and Mr Imus can start new show together. Then again, you’re not very popular.

Posted by: kevin | April 14, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Mr. Moran,
I have always thought you were a highly biased reporter with clear liberal slant embedded throughout your reportage. This article fits very nicely with your previous body of work. Loaded with class envy and snarky, cheap shot comments, you could be the poster boy for White Guilt. Given the facts of the case, where an out-of-control prosecutor let these boys twist in the wind while he knew that there was no case, you, of all people should recognize the injustice and have a modicum of sympathy for the unjustly accused. Shame on you for being a first class butthead. Don Imus, move over.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Was this supposed to be published in The Onion???
Surely, someone must have made a mistake.
If not……. WOW!
just
WOW!
Simply one of the dumbest articles I have ever read.

Posted by: charbatch | April 14, 2007, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

The lack ethics of some of our country’s journalists is truly mind boggling.
Let’s call on these people to stop the race bating, stop the class warfare baiting and act responsibly!!!!

Posted by: Bill | April 14, 2007, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Bravo Terry Moran, you said what others might not have said, and seeing the unthinking responses above, many don’t understand your point.

Posted by: chris | April 14, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

I guess to this reporter, any white person who hires a stripper is allowed to be false accused. I assume this is simply because they’re white. If these were 3 black men falsely accused this reporter would be fired for this statement.

Posted by: justice | April 14, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

One question for the wirter:
Don’t you think these players would have rather have this case go unoticed?
The reason I feel sorry for them isn’t because they got falsey accused (It sucks, but shit happens) I feel sorry for them because the national media blew this out of proportion and lableded thes guys as rapists.
This writer is a complete joke

Posted by: Charley | April 14, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Let me get this straight…you still want to attack the Duke kids for their poor judgement…and you remain quiet about the lefty professors, the lefty media, and the lefty race pimps and their rush to judgement. Oh, that’s right, you too are a lefty. And the left NEVER can criticize their own. That’s why the Black Caucus gave Mr. “Freezer” Jefferson a standing ovation. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Vince | April 14, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Terry,
You cannot be serious by giving Nifong and the accuser a pass for unjustly going after these college students because they were engaged in atypical behavior, from your point of view, and come from affluent families? What about equality? No one should be unjustly accused and persecuted: including affluent people. Nifong could not get these Duke college guys so you will try to do so by cutting them down in your “blog”.

Posted by: mike | April 14, 2007, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

The issue is whether or not the Dukies were unfairly accused of a heinous crime. The answer is a resounding YES. I’m tired of the race card being played every time the liberal media gets caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
The Dukies are taking heat for hiring the strippers. What about the strippers themselves? Or is this just one sided that the guys are to blame but the strippers are totally innocent and have been unfairly treated in this maelstrom? The accuser is not the sharpest knife in the drawer but…because she’s African American, we now play the race card.
The guys got a bum deal and who cares if they’re rich or poor? I’d go after the stripper, Nifong, the state, the media and make their lives hell for 13 months then tally up the scorecards at the end. Boo hoo hoo. This is making my mascara run!!

Posted by: Lynn | April 14, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Mr Moran,
You are an insult to the journalistic profession.
These men were victimized once by a sleazy lying stripper.
They were victimized a second time by a crooked dirtbag prosecutor who would have happily seen innocent people go to jail for years just so that he could get black votes in a re-election.
And now, they’re victimized again by an unprincipled “journalist,” namely you, who smears their reputations even further while paying lip service the heinous injustice against them.
Why don’t you quit your job at ABC and apply for a position at the National Enquirer.

Posted by: Vann | April 14, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Your comments are similar to those you hear from people who insinuate that a rape victim may have played a role in their assault. “Look how she was dressed!” “She had no business being there!” Same crap, different sex.

Posted by: Ron | April 14, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

good thing mr moran is not in any position of authority.according to him it’s ok to falsely accuse “priveleged” youngsters who happen to be white and can afford lawyers;suppress evidence;pander to the minority in order to seek votes etc etc.in fact,we shouldn’t feel “too sorry for them”.
why does abc spew out such garbage?
are all their editors brain dead?
have they lost all sense of justice/decency?
why not prefix the legend “only for minorities” to such articles.
we can thus not waste time reading this trash.
incidentally–i’m not white and i’m not “priveleged”.
in fact,it’s mr moran who’s “priveleged” since he belongs to the special class of people who can write whatever they want since that’s ok with their employers–and their poloitical mentors.

Posted by: ghoomnewala | April 14, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

unbelievable!!! according to some of you its ok to violate the rights of people if they are rich. Moran,s attitude seems to be that yeah it’s too bad this happenned but they are wealthy; they’ll get over it. Class envy erodes society.
Their social status is not something to look down on. One should aspire to climb the ladder not wallow at the bottom and complain.

Posted by: MP | April 14, 2007, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

I wouldn’t want my daughter to date one of these “boys,” and I wouldn’t hire one to work for at my business. Even if they are innocent of the charges, they are creeps.

Posted by: Percival Mather | April 14, 2007, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

This is the most appalling thing I think I have ever read. So what if these men they are rich and white? So what if they come from families with connections? So what if they hired strippers and one of them has assaulted someone in the past – no one is perfect. Why does ever story nowadays have to be about skin color or rich and poor?
In America anyone, and I mean ANYONE, regardless of skin color or sex can become rich and privilaged if they WORK FOR IT, and no one deserves what these young men have been put through. The real tragedy here is that instead of saying “good, justice was served” you would rather downplay it by starting an argument over race race and money. It’s a sad state of affairs in America today that instead of putting in the effort to make something of themselves, most people would rather sit on their asses and whine about someone else having more than they do. Making a good living for yourself and your family does, or being a different color from someone else does not somehow make you more deserving when something bad happens to you.
Finally, let’s not forget, Terry, you are a white man; you probably make a million or so dollars a year as a national news anchor. If someone falsely accused you of rape would you say that you deserved it because you aren’t a young black woman on the Rutgers team? Something tells me that you wouldn’t.

Posted by: Peter | April 14, 2007, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

The only reason this MORON preaches to use not to feel so sorry for these innocent students, is that he was part of the media trying to convict him on allegations alone. This typical liberal mind-set is what is wrong with the country. We have a media uproar about a has-been DJ making a stupid comment, made and played by hip-hop artists on a daily basis, and you can’t turn anything on without seeing the story. The media then anoints two people the mouthpiece of the entire black community, who between them have done more damage to the race relations of this country than a Klan member. Oh that’s so bad, but feel sorry for three innocent kids? No, we are not suppose to give a damn to the evidence in the case, just the seriousness of the charge. If a low-income stripper tells a DA running for re-election that she was raped by 3 white, rich boys, then don’t bother with a trial, get the rope out, invite Jesse and Al , and let’s have a reversed lynching, because 50 years ago ignorant white folks did it. I say that if we the people who believe that this is a great country, do not step up and take back this country, then who decides who gets fired next? The right will call for the likes of Roise and Al Frankin, while the left will decry “hate speech” from talk programs like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. I say if you don’t like what you are seeing or hearing, change the damn channel. In a country where we have hundreds of entertainment choices, there is no reason why you can’t get off your lazy ass and change the channel, just in in case you have lost the remote control. Let your viewer-ship and listener-ship mandate who stays or goes over the public airways.

Posted by: Don Wayne | April 14, 2007, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

By Moran’s logic we should not feel sorry for Gov. Corzine also. After all he is white, a billionaire, and a governor. He has access to better medical care than some other members of our society.
What the Duke case should do is strike fear into everyone in the middle and upper classes as to how corrupt our judicial system can be. Maybe then a critical mass of the populace can be achieved to curb the abuses of prosecutors and police.

Posted by: Edmond | April 14, 2007, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

I don’t even know where to start. I have to get to work, so I don’t have time to address everything that I take issue with. But I will respond to two things.
First, those kids did hire a stripper for entertainment. But in that regard, they’re no different than the majority of college boys. That doesn’t make it ok; it just means that if we’re going to condemn them for it, we need to condemn every other drunken party goer who pays for a stripper. That will be a lot of condemning.
Second, since I haven’t really seen anybody else address it:
(from commenter Don):
“I agree with Moran. Don’t feel too sorry for them. They used incredibly bad judgement as adults for participating int the party in the first place. They precipitated the series of circumstacned they found themselves in.”
I agree that hiring a stripper is a despicable activity. Let’s not forget, though, that the accuser was the one who accepted money to take off her clothes in front of a team of college boys. It would seem that evens things out in terms of despicable activities.
Let’s imagine another scenario: Woman goes out late at night. She wears a tight miniskirt and a halter top. She flirts with a stranger at the bar and drinks perhaps a little too much. When she leaves, he follows her and rapes her.
Did she practice poor judgment in what she chose to wear and in how she chose to act? Yes, especially if she was alone. She marked herself a target. Does that in any way make the rapist’s actions justifiable? Does that make me feel any less sorry for her than if she had been wearing sweatpants and a parka? No. Not at all. No woman EVER deserves to be raped.
People practice poor judgment all the time. We’re people. That’s what we do.
They did something stupid and vulgar. But no man EVER deserves to be falsely accused of rape. When we say that no woman ever deserves to be raped, it seems so obvious to all but the most obtuse or sick-minded. But saying that no man ever deserves to be falsely accused of rape seems to be a revolutionary idea. It simply doesn’t register, and I don’t know why.
The accuser took away a year of their lives. To some, there will never be enough proof that they were innocent. I’m not sure it’s so bad that they’ll never get jobs; I think there are enough people out there who believe them that they won’t want for employment. But “rapist” is a brand that will never fade completely, and some people will always see it burned right into those boys’ foreheads. They are more than likely to run across people like that on a daily basis. There are some things money can’t buy, believe it or not–and money can’t buy back a reputation no matter what color a person is.
The past actions of any people, black or white, does not justify public crucifixion of any innocent person. “Let’s give them a taste of what black people have felt for so long” seems to be a pretty common sentiment around here. Do you realize what you are saying? If we were all punishable for the sins of our fellow blacks or whites, all of us ought to be in jail. Horrible crimes have been perpetrated in the name of race, but group vengeance will not make it better. It will not make racism disappear. It will not heal the oldest and deepest wounds. It will only make things worse. Think about the consequences of following through on such a sentiment every single time. Our nation would be covered in blood all over again. Do we really want that?

Posted by: Vida | April 14, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

I don’t get the author’s point. He must have written things during earlier phases of this case that warrant such dribble. None of the “negative” attributes that he attributes to the innocent Duke students are illegal or even immoral, save the racial epithets. This author clearly doesn’t understand American jurisprudence.
A woman lied to the police, which led to the public arrest and vilification of innocent people. This is not the case of the many “others” of whom the author writes, for NONE of those others becomes front page news for months and months. Perhaps he has hundreds of thousands of dollars to waste on a righteous defense, but I know that those families would like to have every dollar returned to them.
I cannot recall ever reading such pointless and useless, conscience cleansing dribble. Perhaps he’ll use his profession for something more productive.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

At the end of the day this seems to be more a critique of your own peers in the media and what stories they choose to sensationalize.
Too pepper your writing with passive critiques of the “Dukies” fortunate upbringing and the defense it afforded them makes your writing disingenuous in the least.
You’re right – they were lucky to have such great means! But at the end of the day your piece can be reduced to a simple identification of causality: an unethical legacy hungry prosecutor’s efforts compounded by “selective” sensationalization by your media peers.
Their priveleged lifestyle really has nothing to do with it – don’t obfuscate the point.

Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Mr. Moran: Comments like yours are indicative of your own personal bias. I long for the bygone days when we had reporters instead of journalists.
News was much more accurate then.

Posted by: Thomas Kaat | April 14, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

I can agree that the mens behavior may be unexceptable. But when you say sorrow for a victim (in this case the men) depends on who they are then you become the danger in society. You just don’t get real equality do you?

Posted by: Al | April 14, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

I don’t get the author’s point. He must have written things during earlier phases of this case that warrant such dribble. None of the “negative” attributes that he attributes to the innocent Duke students are illegal or even immoral, save the racial epithets. This author clearly doesn’t understand American jurisprudence.
A woman lied to the police, which led to the public arrest and vilification of innocent people. This is not the case of the many “others” of whom the author writes, for NONE of those others becomes front page news for months and months. Perhaps he has hundreds of thousands of dollars to waste on a righteous defense, but I know that those families would like to have every dollar returned to them.
I cannot recall ever reading such pointless and useless, conscience cleansing dribble. Perhaps he’ll use his profession for something more productive.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Granted, these 3 lacross players aren’t rocket scientists, but I was struck by how intelligent and well-spoken they were as I watched them speak. It occurred to me that it would be impossible to find anywhere in the country 3 Black athletes that were as intelligent and well-spoken. And probably 3 Black students on the Duke campus, as well.
I like to visit sites like this every now and then – they remind me why I no longer waste my time watching things like ABC news.

Posted by: Izabelle Able | April 14, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Well Jess and Al, once again you make yourselves out to be much worse than the “MAN” whom you say keeps you under his foot. How does it feel to be grouped with the ones you despise and hate. I think you both are enjoying the other side a bit to much. I hope when the music stops there won’t be a chair for either one of you.

Posted by: bfphilli | April 14, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

WHY CAN’T ANYONE SAY THE TRUTH?
Nifong was down in the polls, with an election coming up. He used this opportunity to increase his black vote! That is why he withheld information, and called for a trial well after the election was over. — The blacks that voted for him should be insulted because they were miss-led info making a decision with false (or ommited) info.

Posted by: BILL from Florida | April 14, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

What else would you expect from an afirmative action reporter?
Somehow I don’t think Mr. Moran’s parents paid for his expensive college education – more likely you and I did.

Posted by: Sharon Needles | April 14, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

I wonder how much legal counsel the CEO of ABC an afford.

Posted by: Ed Richardson | April 14, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Have to agree with Jaybird–about 5th post down. Had it not been for these pathetic, hammered frat-brat types, trying to put their hairy toes right up to the line–this whole episode would never have happened. And don’t tell me “all colleges guys do it, blah, blah, blah.” I don’t care if 90% of college kids do something, it doesn’t make it right. Stop spouting the gobbledygook of an ENABLER. Some of you couldn’t live a day of your life able to stand against peer pressure. This woman may not have been “violated” legally, but at the very least–e.g. Imus–these men should have had their butts kicked big time for their stupid stunts. There’s plenty of blame to go around.

Posted by: Robin | April 14, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Terry, your recognition of part of the facts is proper – step back and rewind the whole debacle. [1] There was never any thourgh investigation of this matter. [2] Too much money on the side of the “boys” to ever set a level playing field. [3] Prosecutor- for some unknown reason [plenty under supposition] did not even question the lady for over 9 months [how could any knowledge not be cold cold cold by then - he knew this and so did the attorneys representing the "boys" [4] These “boys” were ready to hit the real world head-on – so drop the “boys” refer to them as anxious “young adults”. [5] Pressure is never seen as great as on College peers – with the alumni featuring a “no blemish of our great hauls of leaning” attitude [6] Journalists – the ones most apparent – never backed up to take a second look – it all went the “good ole boy’s way” of the players – which would be the most natural inclination of the ” feathers in the cap” society that functions in all race matters [7] No one with MONEY ever tried to help the lady – she too was a student – she too was [hopefully still can be] a proud human being but only the players were recognized by the media as having any trusted credentials of smarts [8] Why did the local press and local businesses not demand more asute management RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING – every man-woman in that area knew that the Prosecutor was dangling this case – and every day he dangled the case became more one-sided.
So, what would be most fair in this matter is to bring in a team of investigators that had no pre-associated involvement of guilt or not guilt on either side – no pre-association of money influence – no pre-associatin with local college influence from alumni or others who would not permit the college to have a scratch on their history [just let them win once in a while] and let this team do the job that should have been done from the get-go. This case is one of the worst cases of mis management and mis alignment of truths probably in certain history.
Set the plate right – this decision leaves a lot of dirty laundry laying around and a lot of hard feelings on both sides of the isle. Let the chips fall where they should have fallen. If da-ja-vue –so be-it. But this hunt did not have the right dogs.

Posted by: willclem | April 14, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Here is the real point. If these boys were not who there are, they would wrongly in jail, and none of us would be the wiser. Before we celebrate this as some class based ‘pay back’, let’s all realize the larger evil that is at play and a danger to us all.
Instead of focusing on their culpability based on race, wealth, delinquint misdemeanor behavior, or lineage, shouldn’t we be trying to make sure this type of governmental misconduct never occurs again – anytime; anywhere? The true danger is Mr. Moran’s tacit approval of his profession’s lack of concern for others who are victims of prosecutorial misconduct. Justifying a crime – for any reason – allows it to occur again. The crime here is not rape, not even a false accusation of rape. The crime is Mike Nifong’s quest for an election win and his willingness to prey on innocent men and a gullible public to achieve that outcome. The accessory to this crime is the media. Without an eager, willing media operating with a predisposition to jump on anything that smells of class warefare, this story would have never made it beyond the local papers.
Rich kids, poor kids, white kids, black kids all have their crosses to bear, but none desire to live in a world that lets power hungry criminals like Nifong prosper. The media who creates, supports, then attacks hacks like Nifong need to stand judgement as well. Terry Moran, if you have any decency at all, you will stand up and work for change in your industry and the information you sell to us all.
I’m not holding my breath, however.

Posted by: Dave Anderson | April 14, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

What? College kids hired strippers? Holy crap, you mean they actually engaged in LEGAL ACTIVITY? Those bastards

Posted by: Don | April 14, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Moran’s logic: We should not feel sorry for these individuals because others have also been mis-prosecuted many times over.
This mystifies me. Both situations are examples of INJUSTICE. Why shouldn’t we feel equally sorry for both?
Sadly, Moran’s answer is race. Moran himself admits that he wouldn’t cover the story if the accused weren’t white. Likewise, (and sadly) would he really say “don’t feel sorry for them” if they weren’t white kids? No way. Ironically, it is Moran himself who continues to perpetuate judgments on how to treat people based on race. Terry, get a clue – if it is wrong for a black person to be mis-prosecuted, then it is just as wrong for a white. The race based distinction you make directly counters all the equality we are fighting for.

Posted by: Lou | April 14, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Just b/c minority and poor Americans may be subject to unwarranted proscution does not discount what these boys have been through. It is not mutually exclusive to feel badly for them and recognize the injustice in our system toward the poor and minorities. One of the accused “Dukies” himself stated that he sympathized with those who are falsely accused and do not have the resources to fight back. Even if their behavior on that fateful night was less than commendable the fallout was grossly beyond what they may have deserved. These kids (and they are KIDS) deserve less of our sympathy because they come from privilege? That’s silly. For the record, I am a middle class minority. Terry, I think you’re way off base and need to lose your white liberal guilt.

Posted by: pd in PA | April 14, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

What else would you expect from an afirmative action reporter?
Somehow I don’t think Mr. Moran’s parents paid for his expensive college education – more likely you and I did.

Posted by: Sharon Needles | April 14, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

HOW COME NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THT NIFONG WAS SEEKING RE-ELECTION WHEN THIS CASE CAME ABOUT? TALK ABOUT MOTIVE.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

You said,”They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.”
Sounds like “sour-grapes” to me!

Posted by: Phoenix Odom | April 14, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

How much legal counsel can the CEO of ABC an afford?
The real target for this idiot columnists’ remarks is not even the boys, who can’t afford anything, but the success of their parents.
Success is always a liberal’s worst nightmare though. Can’t have victims if all you have is success stories!

Posted by: Edward | April 14, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

This has to be a well conceived troll, or this guy got dumped by a Lacrosse player at Duke. Way too much wrong with the thought process to even bother critiquing it. Maybe he couldn’t get into Duke and is still upset over it. Who knows…

Posted by: RDK571 | April 14, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

A vicious poor black woman was caught trying to cash in by destroying three rich white men, yet somehow they are still in the wrong because they are rich and white? Yep, racism is still alive and well.
This woman justifiably should go to prison… if she were a white male there is no doubt that she would.

Posted by: Jacob | April 14, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Wow, man, you can REALLY throw stones. You must have been really, really good your entire life to feel that you can judge these people and urge others not to feel sorry for them

Posted by: Jean in St. Louis | April 14, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

I could only imagine the national outrage if some white girl falsely pointed the rape finger at three black men.

Posted by: Marc | April 14, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

I would love to do an ad hominem attack on Moran but suffice to say his article smacks of the typical leftist attitude. Imus’s nasty and stupid comments are right out of the “sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never harm me”chant. Moran equating being accused and charged of rape wrongly is the stick that breaks bones. I guess Moran was just trying to show how sensitive he is. Now the attack. A real putz he is..

Posted by: Paul Bopko | April 14, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I would love to do an ad hominem attack on Moran but suffice to say his article smacks of the typical leftist attitude. Imus’s nasty and stupid comments are right out of the “sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never harm me”chant. Moran equating being accused and charged of rape wrongly is the stick that breaks bones. I guess Moran was just trying to show how sensitive he is. Now the attack. A real putz he is..

Posted by: Paul Bopko | April 14, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

terry
What a stupid article. When do you libs work on a even level. You can’t!!
I hope the woman in the duke case gets charged and Mr. Nifong get tossed in jail and sued. As for Duke, I’m sure they’ll settle with the players.

Posted by: joe | April 14, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

COME ON, GET REAL. HOW RACIST CAN YOU GET? SO THEY WERE FOUND INNOCENT, AND YOU’RE STILL CONSIDERING THEM ‘GUILTY’ BECAUSE OF THEIR BACKGROUND OR FINANCIAL STATUS? THAT’S REAL PREJUDICE…

Posted by: BEC | April 14, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

How much legal counsel can the CEO of ABC an afford?
The real target for this idiot columnists’ remarks is not even the boys, who can’t afford anything, but the success of their parents.
Success is always a liberal’s worst nightmare though. Can’t have victims if all you have is success stories!

Posted by: Edward | April 14, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

To the pathetic few who have written here in defense of Mr. Moran’s article. My fervent hope is that you are unjustly accused of a crime, tried in the biased media, lose your life savings & jobs and rot in jail, all the while proclaiming your innocence. Blind fools like you truly deserve no justice.

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

To commenter Matt Jordan (and others who think the same things):
Sure, some of the comments criticizing this article are laughable. Well, more than some. Then again, there are more than a few (especially near the top) that are just as ridiculous. Instead of reading a few of the “Moran? You mean MORON RIGHT? You shud bee FIRED!!1!! Or JAILED!!!1!” comments and deciding we’re all a bunch of idiots, try to sift through those and find the ones that make actual arguments. There are quite a few, and some of them are quite good.

Posted by: Vida | April 14, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Moran’s piece illustrates why increasing numbers of news consumers no longer trust the major networks to tell them the story straight. It is not “misplaced sympathy” for the public to support three young men who were about to be railroaded by a rogue prosecutor.
“And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. ”
Gee Terry, whose fault is that? If prosecutorial misconduct is so rampant, why don’t YOU spend some time covering it, instead of lecturing us about how we should feel about the Dukies?

Posted by: Stephen Johnson | April 14, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

If these boys deserved this injustice because of their behavior, does that mean that girls that take off their clothes for money (or for free) deserve whatever they get?

Posted by: JoJo | April 14, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

He says ” there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both.”
1) where’s the data – does he have data, or does he repeat hearsay or voice his particular bias; 2) if there’s no data to prove “many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct” then how can one know to say that most of the victims are poor or minority; and 3) if “the media covers few,” perhaps that represents “journalistic misconduct” and press credentials should be rescinded.

Posted by: Hank | April 14, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Mr. Moran,
You covered the courts and the law for ABC for ten years. Have you EVER seen a more blatant case of prosecutorial abuse? Have you ever seen three young men put through the wringer in a more public way while the case ABSOLUTLEY COLLAPSED around the prosecution? Yet, somehow, you have to try to make this THEIR fault.
You will probably never have kids so you may not understand what it’s like to have them… let me try to explain something to you. There is NO LENGTH any father wouldn’t go to in order to clear his son of these type of charges… particularly when it’s so blatantly obvious that the whole thing is being created from whole cloth.
Try to come down out of your Ivory Tower just occasionally and get some grasp of what the real world is like! I’m sure the fathers of these young men have had serious conversations with them about putting themselves in situations where things can get out of hand. It’s there place to do that, NOT YOURS!

Posted by: t2 | April 14, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Don’t feel sorry for them because they a wealthier than you. Yes, I see… that makes perfect sense to a liberal.
As the democrat party pushes this nation further into it’s socialist non-sense they’ll have Terry to look to for a kind word of support. What a fool.

Posted by: Ron J. | April 14, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

If these players had been poor, they would have gone to trial and been convicted. My suggestion: if a cop asks you a question, your answer should be “I want a lawyer”. FWIW, Duke was my backup school.

Posted by: Richard | April 14, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

These poor little innocent baby boys. Wah-Wah. The innocent little guys were on the floor naked, and they were just going to sweep the dirty ol’floor with that broom that night, right? How dare those girls feel threatened! Get off your high horses. It’s 100% agreed Nifong did a terrible thing. Still, in my heart of hearts, I think that these men need more than people’s excuses and enablement. Everyone here is talking about these men as though they were their SONS. What about these women being your DAUGHTERS?

Posted by: Robin | April 14, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

In other words, “They were asking for it.” This is the most ABSURD article I have ever read from anyone at ABC news. It is a DISGRACE. The 3 young men are innocent of the rape charges, period. The reporter who wrote this disgusts me.
~Mike Henry
Ft Washington, PA

Posted by: Mike Henry | April 14, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

This is astonishing. It is hard to imagine that this is an ABC journalist.

Posted by: Peter Hoagland | April 14, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

This article reminds us that as we shouldn’t feel sorry for intelligent rich white kids for any reason whatsoever. They just aren’t human.

Posted by: Atl | April 14, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Oh, geez. WHAT. EVER.
Imus said a horrible thing, but do his comments condemn the innocent Rutgers players to prison, potentially for life? Making such an outrageously false statement makes HIM look bad, not them. Crystal Gail Mangum accusing the Duke players of rape, however, will be a false accusation that will taint them for life, even after being found innocent.
No one ever said the Duke players were “heroes”. It’s well-known that they were having a stripper party that night. They might be jerks, but they’re definitely not criminals. Neither is Imus, as despicable as his comments were.
Oh, and suddenly we’re supposed to feel sorry for Crystal Gail Mangum for her troubled past and forget everything? That excuses her for almost destroying the lives of three men innocent of any crime? How many more women are there like her out there, wrongly screaming rape and demeaning the true victims of this crime?

Posted by: Viva la DOUBLE STANDARD! | April 14, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

You’re an idiot.

Posted by: D. McKeever | April 14, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Even after months of network media demonizing, the three Duke students were found to be innocent by the North Carolina DA. Note that the DA didn’t say that they there was insufficient evidence against them, he came out and said that they were innocent. Yet Moron – uh, Moran – still can’t let go.
Face it, the PC hordes lost this one. But cheer up – you got Imus! ;-)

Posted by: Stephen Johnson | April 14, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

With a guy like this it is easy to see why ABC’s ratings are in the tank.

Posted by: Joe Thomas | April 14, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

If these players had been poor, they would have gone to trial and been convicted. My suggestion: if a cop asks you a question, your answer should be “I want a lawyer”.
FWIW, Duke was my third choice backup school (third behind the one I actually attended).

Posted by: Richard | April 14, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

arrested for assault in Washington DC? THAT’S an easy thing to be arrested for…..all you have to do is TOUCH a police officer and it’s assault. Or as in my husband and my case….be “hippies” during an anti-war protest weekend in Georgetown….get arrested for “looking out of place” (hippy-ish) and get arrested for NOTHING and charged with assault when we did NOTHING wrong…(and the charges were later dropped…but we had to spend all of our savings at the time to get a lawyer…..all because we were “hippies” in DC…..
seems like people just cannot accept that maybe these Duke guys are INNOCENT…..even despite the fact they hired strippers…what’s wrogn with that?

Posted by: deanna | April 14, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Sir, it appears you honor the rights of a group but discount the importance of the individual. Sorry, but this is the United States of America. Individual rights, including that of justice, remain of prime importance in our continued existence as a nation. If you garner enough support for your position from people ignorant of our republic’s foundation, we will find our rights will decay.

Posted by: Les | April 14, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Moran’s article is crap but what’s even worse are some of the racist comments about black folks being posted here. I have an unreserved loathing for the liberal media, but I also have no interest in aligning myself with people who believe some of the ridiculous junk being posted about blacks. Justice only operates when it’s applied to everyone.

Posted by: Nick | April 14, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

I suppose we shouldn’t feel sorry for Gov Corzine’s horrible injuries because he’s a rich white guy too.
~Mike Henry
Ft Washington, PA

Posted by: Mike henry | April 14, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

You… are a MORON!

Posted by: chris | April 14, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

I suppose we shouldn’t feel sorry for Gov Corzine’s horrible injuries because he’s a rich white guy too.
~Mike Henry
Ft Washington, PA

Posted by: Mike Henry | April 14, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Where’s Sharpton’s apology to these players?

Posted by: Alessandro | April 14, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Terry should change his name to: Terry Moron!
The DA acted in a despicable manor, in using these young men for political gain. The fact that the DA abused these men’s rights makes them victims.
Terry Moron’s argument that we should not feel sorry for the young men basically shines a light on his lack of judgment. The young men were not being charged with acting inappropriately at a party, they were accused of a rape that did not occur.
If the school decided to take action against the men, and their party, so be it. That is not what occurred, and one can only hope that someday, Terry Moron gets a clue.

Posted by: Jeff Kitchen | April 14, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

I do feel sorry for them. If you are jealous because they have money and you don’t then, just say so. How stupid.
Here’s an idea for you all. When you get drunk and hire strippers and associate with lowlifes bad things happen! What’s wrong with having a few beers and going to a movie or dancing or a pizza or something. Wake up! When you do immoral things it turns out badly.

Posted by: coop | April 14, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Any sympathy for me, Terry?!??!

Posted by: Steven Pagones | April 14, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Terry, your mentality on the issue is asinine. Life is just not fair…boo hoo…they have more than I do. Get a life, these 3 men were villified by the media and they did not deserve it. Don’t tell me that hiring a stripper at a college party is anything new. It does not make them reckless human beings.

Posted by: Franco | April 14, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Any sympathy for me, Terry?!??!

Posted by: Steven Pagones | April 14, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Terry, your mentality on the issue is asinine. Life is just not fair…boo hoo…they have more than I do. Get a life, these 3 men were villified by the media and they did not deserve it. Don’t tell me that hiring a stripper at a college party is anything new. It does not make them reckless human beings.

Posted by: Franco | April 14, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

This is a classic example of the liberal media trying to still justify themselves because the outcome didn’t turn out the way they wanted it to. Terry, did you ever think that this stripper also knew that these were ‘rich white boys’ which explains the MOTIVE behind her accusations? She and her lawyer were trying to play the race card to get some easy money from these ‘overly privileged whiteys.’ (It probably would have worked if she had a black lawyer). You liberals like to create your own version of what a ‘victim’ is and it usually depends on which side of the politically correct fence they fall on.

Posted by: james | April 14, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Charges against the black woman and charges against nifong. Also, these guys should sue Duke as well as Jesse-HiJackson and Al Sharpless.
The simmering race divide is growing and I welcome it.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Terry Moran
This is pretty typical thought I imagine of the liberal media.
First they crucified the “Dukies” since they were white males, accussed of raping a black woman. This media abuse continued LONG afterit became really obvious, that the woman was a liar. It just fit in so neatly with the liberal agenda.
Now when she turns out to be complete lying trash, the type of scum that would falsely accused three innoncents of rape, the media that screwed over “the dukies” is telling us not to feel too sorry for them.
They are just “dukies” I guess, not real humans, ah yeah, they are white males too, which is really the crux.
Pathetic.
Fox news has broken the liberal stranglehold on this kinda garbage.
I will feel sorry for anyone exposed to such flagrant media abuse thank you. They are simply three young PEOPLE who got violated by the media, and violated by that lying scumbag who falsely accused them.
The people I wont feel sorry for in the slightest, is the liberal media. I just cannot wait for the first one of the nbc, abc, msnbc, cbs, cnn groupthink newsgroups to fall. There are not enough white people haters/self loathers who buy into that garbage around to support all those liberal outlets. One will have to die out, or move to the right/middle to survive.

Posted by: Lee Herfel | April 14, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Terry, your mentality on the issue is asinine. Life is just not fair…boo hoo…they have more than I do. Get a life, these 3 men were villified by the media and they did not deserve it. Don’t tell me that hiring a stripper at a college party is anything new. It does not make them reckless human beings.

Posted by: Franco | April 14, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Moran, you’re a moron!

Posted by: johnny Ramone | April 14, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Terry, your mentality on the issue is asinine. Life is just not fair…boo hoo…they have more than I do.
Get a life, these 3 men were villified by the media and they did not deserve it. Don’t tell me that hiring a stripper at a college party is anything new. It does not make them reckless human beings.

Posted by: Franco | April 14, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

I serve my county to defend this idiot’s First Amendment rights? ABC should be ashamed…and then fire Moran.

Posted by: MCL | April 14, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Ya Got it yet Terry?! Even Hymietown thinks you’re an IDIOT!

Posted by: tom | April 14, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Cat, you have alot of nerve writing an article like this. As a member of the liberal media you probably have more skeletons in your closet than most. You libtards wear me out!
LOL!!! choke on it.

Posted by: LibNewsMedia | April 14, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Jews hate Christians, the Jews in the media and their athiest employees have a campaign to ruin Christians in this nation because they hate the truth, they are jealous too of Christians blessings. They use race because a small percentage of white imperialists 100′s of years ago owned slaves. It is a scheme by Jews and other Christian haters to break the will of Christians, the majority of whom are white, to convince them that they don’t really deserve the blessing of God because a small percentage of whites 100′s of years ago owned slaves. This is a scheme that has satan behind it, using those in the flesh who are separated from Christ to war against those who are part of God’s kingdom. Jews and athiests hate Christ and want to destroy him and his people same as 2000 years ago. It never changes.

Posted by: Christian | April 14, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Cat, you have alot of nerve writing an article like this. As a member of the liberal media you probably have more skeletons in your closet than most. You libtards wear me out!
LOL!!! choke on it.

Posted by: LibNewsMedia | April 14, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

This reporter is an example of the hate and contempt white liberals have for themselves and those not like them. The Duke incident illustrates why Americans need fear the socialists in the media, government, education, and the law. Liberals are no doubt frightened that the Duke case may cause Americans to question our legal system and perhaps demand changes. Liberal elites have been working quietly for years to make the judicial system the sole arm of government and once that’s accomplished they can begin their reign of terror.
Use incandescent light bulbs? Two years for an environmental crime. Deny global warming? Five years hard labor for heresy. Guily of a hate crime? Life for insensitivity.
Americans need to be vigilant or they will find themselve laboring in camps, behind barbed wire, and listening to Al Gore speeches as they pick rice in the hot sun under the watchful eyes of party members with AK-47s.
The Duke Case was a political and racial case. It had nothing to do with facts and evidence. This is the fate that can await all of us if we allow liberal scum like Nifong to remain in law and government.
Nifong, Jackson, Sharpton, the New Black Panter Party, the 88 Duke professors, the President of Duke University, and this and all other reporters who slander the Duke boys need to be proscribed. It would be righteous for all of them to forfeit all of their possessions and be imprisoned as if they had been convicted of rape in North Carolina.

Posted by: Dave Stone | April 14, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Nice Hit Piece…….
There is not a family in America who would not leverage their entire net worth to fight simular charges from political hacks…..
Rich ??? No at all, they just love and trust the word of their sons.

Posted by: js | April 14, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Regardless if the 3 young men come from affluent families, no one has the right to be falsely accused of a serios crime such as rape. To liken the incident/treatment to other attrocities sufered by African Americans behind bars does not make it right for thoughs that think this is some kind of payback for the “White Man”! The ones that should really be on trial now is the Black African American stripper/prostitute for making false alligations and the Prosecuter that she helped to get elected. We dragged the 3 accused boys and their families through the mud but don’t have the courage to bring up the accusers past criminal history to show that this is not the first time that she has done something like this. What’s worse is you get the likes of Jessy Jackson and Al Sharpton sticking up for the accuser but since the 3 young men have been exonerated, the so called Holy men are no where to be found. They should be issuing public apologies to the young men and their families but instead are out panhandling with a case against Don Imus. They are much like two-bit lawyers out looking for accidents to happen. It’s no wonder why we have so many race relation problems when you have predjudice so called Holy Men stirring the fires of racial tension.

Posted by: Honest John | April 14, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Mr. Moran’s column is morally idiotic.
Don’t feel TOO sorry for the Duke LaCrosse players? That goes without saying. You shouldn’t feel TOO sorry for anyone. You should feel just as much sympathy for them as they deserve. Same with anyone else.
Aside from the arguably trivial point, what made their situation argubaly special is this: not only were they wrongly accused, but for about a year they became the faces of absolute moral degeneracy for much of the nation. Being wrongly accused of something is bad. Having that accusation then aired to a few hundred million people adds a another layer.
By Moran’s reasoning, we shouldn’t feel too badly for any black men who are wrongly accused either. After all, it happens to so many of them. Why single out Giles as having suffered? He just went through the same thing as many others of his race. Why single him out for sympathy?
One of the things we are hearing now is that is unseemly for Imus to be complaining that “everyone else” uses racial epithets — as if that excuses his misbehavior.
It is equally irrelevant to point out that others suffer false accusations as much as the Duke LaCrosse players, so their situation is less worthy of sympathy.
Moran is not just wrong with the commentary, he is massively, idiotically wrong.

Posted by: lia bach | April 14, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

To compare the Duke Lacrosse players situation to the Rutgers basketball team situation is obsurd. In the Duke case, the prosecutor illegally hid DNA evidence from the defense that would have exhonerated the players. The players were having a party. Is this a crime? They hired strippers, also probably not a crime. Did they deserve to have a ear of their lives stolen from them? Did they deserve the humiliation of being called rapists? I think not. The Rutgers players were not They were, and still are a great team. Their reply to Imus should have been “screw you strange looking man”.

Posted by: Chris Pegg | April 14, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

This is a single issue — were the Duke players falsely accused and overzealously prosecuted. If so, then the accuser and prosecutor should be on trial.
Yes, many black people do are falsely accused and tried. Two wrongs do not make a right.
If the reporter would stick to news instead of spouting his faulty thoughts we might be able to address the wrongs done elsewhere in the legal system.

Posted by: Fred | April 14, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Wow! what a jerk. Lots of stuff to choose from here. The logic of those on the left staggers all.
The black players at Rutgers have no expectations in life? What the hell does that mean? Because they’re women or black or not rich now their education at Rutgers on a scholorship will not give them a good chance at the american dream? I feel sorry for the players at Rutgers because the story got huge and the label that was put on them got repeated 10,000 times when it could have been ignored. I feel sorry for the innocent players at Duke who got royally railroaded by the victocrat machinery because they were rich and white. The Duke kids did nothing illegal and had you media whores crawling up their ass for any and all dirt for a year. Even with a clear exoneration, they still face a barrage of “well I still think they were guilty or deserved it” type comments. Who has been more wronged? Is anybody anyplace going to call any of those Rutgers players ho’s again?

Posted by: dankbubba | April 14, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

WOW! Your article displays a fundamental lack of logical reasoning. Combine that with your LWGS (Liberal White Guilt Syndrome) and you have this blog entry. It’s worth a giggle, nothing more.

Posted by: Pak Rahbahn | April 14, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

To compare the Duke Lacrosse players situation to the Rutgers basketball team situation is obsurd. In the Duke case, the prosecutor illegally hid DNA evidence from the defense that would have exhonerated the players. The players were having a party. Is this a crime? No. They hired strippers, also probably not a crime. Did they deserve to have a year of their lives stolen from them? Did they deserve the humiliation of being called rapists? I think not. The Rutgers players were not harmed in any way – other than just being offended. They were, and still are a great team. They lost nothing as a result of Imus’ comments. Their reply to Imus should have been “screw you strange looking man”.

Posted by: Chris Pegg | April 14, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

TYPUCAL DRIVE BY MEDIA BULLSHIT. GROW UP AND GET A LIFE.
FIGURE OUT WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT ASND WHAT IS TRULY AT STAKE,
JIM KELLEY, WICHITA, KS.

Posted by: JIM KELLEY | April 14, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Hey I see that the webmaster on this site censors some people. they have erased my posting pointing out the story of the two white kids that were brutalized, tortured and dismembered before being murdered by four real N******, and a crack ho, down in Knoxville,Tennessee. what is the matter Liberal Stalinist ABC don’t want this story to get out do you. But i digress Moran would demean the two white kids that got tortured,by the most viled and hated group of people on this planet- black american men, the media always taked their side, go to europe, go to latin america, Blacks are dispised in most countries, you will not have to wonder why they are, if you all take the time to find out what these N****** did to these two young WHITE college students. people need to confront black americans,they need to have it thrown back in their faces, instead of doing what the white liberal media does, appease them.

Posted by: not bill clinton | April 14, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

What a disingenuous boob. If Moran or any of his journalist colleagues were wrongly accused of a crime they would be screaming bloody murder.

Posted by: kurt | April 14, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

wow, Terry, it seems most readers think you are a moron.

Posted by: William Frost | April 14, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

TYPUCAL DRIVE BY MEDIA BULLSHIT. GROW UP AND GET A LIFE.
FIGURE OUT WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT ASND WHAT IS TRULY AT STAKE,
JIM KELLEY, WICHITA, KS.

Posted by: JIM KELLEY | April 14, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

I hope the “boys” sue Nifong and win payment for all the “justice system” cost.

Posted by: Al | April 14, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

In other news, New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine is in critical condition after an accident when he was a front seat passenger in an SUV and not wearing a seat belt. Understanding that not wearing a seat belt greatly increases the likelihood of severe injury in a vehicle accident, should we withhold our sympathy and get-well wishes, concluding that the Governor’s injuries are deserved? How about it, Mr. MORON !!!

Posted by: pgt | April 14, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Nifong should made an example of, just as Imus was, to set precedent and minimize “many other victims of prosecutorial misconduct”. I would want Nifong to remember his actions every day for the rest of his life. I don’t feel sorry for the Duke Lacrosse Player; I’m concerned that the same thing could happen to me or my children.

Posted by: Aaron | April 14, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

NIFONG GOIN’ TO JAIL

Posted by: Dan Brown | April 14, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Why can Don Imus be fired for racist comments but this double standard does not apply to this “journalist”?
Once in a while white people have to be reminded about the sheer ignorance found in minority communities.

Posted by: Wilhelm | April 14, 2007, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

You are an absolute idiot!

Posted by: LLL | April 14, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Terry Moran. What an idiot. Yet another good affirmation of my decision to not watch ABC.

Posted by: K. Wolf | April 14, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

You are an absolute idiot!

Posted by: LLL | April 14, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Terry Moran. What an idiot. Yet another good affirmation of my decision to not watch ABC.

Posted by: K. Wolf | April 14, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Wow! Because they are white and well-off, we should be okay with them being accused of rape. They deserve what they got because they asked for a white stripper? They deserve what they got because they could afford lawyers? Because someone at the party supposedly used racial epithets? Nobody even claimed it was any of the three men in question. (Keep in mind, Terry, that information comes from the strippers….but I guess since the strippers are neither white nor priveleged, they must be believable.)
Terry, using your own reasoning, you – as a white man of privelege – deserve to be dragged into the street and beaten to a bloody pulp. Then you should be arrested for assaulting your assailants.
It occurs to me, Terry, that you have a bias against athletes as well as white people. We all know what kind of men hold grudges against athletes…….

Posted by: Mike | April 14, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Let me get this straight, Don Imus, who has been a broadcasting legend lost his job over wat he said, and Terry Moran, who I wouldn’t recognize if I passed him on the street is allowed to say things like this and get away with it.
ABC makes me sick.

Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

This is your typical guilt-ridden white maie, who thinks that every white person has led a life of privilege. The contrast in treatment by the liberal Jewish media and between the Rutgers basketball team, which suffered no harm, and that of the Duke Lacrosse players, who lost a year of schooling and playtime, and more importantly, $3 Million dollars is maximum. There must be a word similar to Uncle Toms to apply to these guilt ridden, pathetic white men who project their self loathing onto other whites. They are actuall worse than Uncle Tom, who had to survive in a cruel and racist system. To think that just because you attend Duke somehow means you can pooh pooh a $3 Million dollar loss and not even mention the racist, lynch-mob attitude in the black community and the leftwing white academic community tells me this Moran character is a dupe.

Posted by: Mark Jawscz | April 14, 2007, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Terry, such great comments. What those horrible rich, white boys did by hiring that poor black girl to strip for them was a million times worse than her psychotic accusations of gang rape. I heard they might have actually yelled the “N” word at her! (I feel so guilty even saying that! Forgive me my black brothers and sisters!) Shame on them! I’m so glad Al Sharpton is paying for her education. Pathological liars need all the help thy can get. By the way, how do you stuff college tuition in $1.00 bills down a G-string?

Posted by: Lehmann108 | April 14, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I often marvel at the sheer pomposity and hypocrisy of people like Terry Moran and how they see the world.
A DA who lacks any integrity, honesty, or character charges three innocent men of rape for political purposes. Our so-called civil rights leaders forget the presumption of innocence clause of our Constitution because they were white and the alleged victim was black. Reporters and news agencies defame and slander these young men without a shred of evidence in the name of our “right to know”. And the so-called intellectual elite of our universities and colleges cause a coach his job, 3 young men their reputations, and contribute to the hateful exchange of vitriolic debate in our country. Yet Terry Moran wants us to somehow equate their attendence at a party where strippers were hired, or the fact they have the resources to defend themselves as a reason to hold them in contempt?
Well my contempt is for the liar who levied the charges to begin with. Its for a prosecutor who put politics before integrity and honesty. The pompous civil rights leaders who saw their rightous indignation as a venue for further contributions to their sham organizations. And the academians and journalists whose elitisim would not allow them to believe that people of all colors can be lying dogs! Perhaps if Mr. Moran lived in the real world he would understand this. But unfortunantly long ago some professor or editor convinced him he has a lock on knowledge and morality because he works as a journalists. The rest of America knows better!

Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I often marvel at the sheer pomposity and hypocrisy of people like Terry Moran and how they see the world.
A DA who lacks any integrity, honesty, or character charges three innocent men of rape for political purposes. Our so-called civil rights leaders forget the presumption of innocence clause of our Constitution because they were white and the alleged victim was black. Reporters and news agencies defame and slander these young men without a shred of evidence in the name of our “right to know”. And the so-called intellectual elite of our universities and colleges cause a coach his job, 3 young men their reputations, and contribute to the hateful exchange of vitriolic debate in our country. Yet Terry Moran wants us to somehow equate their attendence at a party where strippers were hired, or the fact they have the resources to defend themselves as a reason to hold them in contempt?
Well my contempt is for the liar who levied the charges to begin with. Its for a prosecutor who put politics before integrity and honesty. The pompous civil rights leaders who saw their rightous indignation as a venue for further contributions to their sham organizations. And the academians and journalists whose elitisim would not allow them to believe that people of all colors can be lying dogs! Perhaps if Mr. Moran lived in the real world he would understand this. But unfortunantly long ago some professor or editor convinced him he has a lock on knowledge and morality because he works as a journalists. The rest of America knows better!

Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

One More Villain to the List

Some of this information has dripped out elsewhere, but the News and Observer paints a comprehensive picture of the sad background of a deeply troubled woman and reveals a twisted portrait of criminal activity, disturbed behavior, and severe emotional …

Posted by: The Oxford Medievalist | April 14, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

What do you expect from the left-wing, mainstream media!

Posted by: Gary | April 14, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

will it be CNN tonite?
nope
ABC, NBC, CBS
NOPE, pure liberal garbage in those alphies
how’s about Fox
nope
too many Bush bootlickers and when you think about it, really think about they are as United Nations pinko like as ABC, NBC etc
tonite
I’m hanging where reality shatters illusion over at http://www.newswithviews.com
or better yet
http://www.devvy.com

Posted by: former TV programmed | April 14, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

You and your Left Wing Nuts are what are wrong with American. You Nuts will not be happy until you drown all other voices with your BS.
Last White “Man” out of the USA, not Metro-Sexual turn out the lights and lock the gate to the Zoo.

Posted by: njrednj | April 14, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Since you are dragging the past of the accused into this, why don’t you talk about the MULTIPLE lies and run-ins with the police of the accuser?
What a bunch of crap. This is why NO ONE watches the network news anymore. They should have been charged because they had it coming to them. What a bunch of garbage.
Don’t be surprised when you are pulled off the network like Imus for this crap. We are not putting up with this junk anymore.

Posted by: Brian | April 14, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

You and your Left Wing Nuts are what are wrong with American. You Nuts will not be happy until you drown all other voices with your BS.
Last White “Man” out of the USA, not Metro-Sexual turn out the lights and lock the gate to the Zoo.

Posted by: njrednj | April 14, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

You and your Left Wing Nuts are what are wrong with American. You Nuts will not be happy until you drown all other voices with your BS.
Last White “Man” out of the USA, not Metro-Sexual turn out the lights and lock the gate to the Zoo.

Posted by: njrednj | April 14, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Althnough I disagree with the article I believe that those who are being hateful and screaming that Mr. Moran is “PC,” “liberal,” “idiot,”
“moron,” and other such things do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to promote their own arguments or “conservative ideals.”
Some of the replies to the article have been worse than the original blog.

Posted by: Upset | April 14, 2007, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Rosie and Mor0n plus the loss of Monday Night Football….Is there any reason to watch ABC ever again?!

Posted by: bill | April 14, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Althnough I disagree with the article I believe that those who are being hateful and screaming that Mr. Moran is “PC,” “liberal,” “idiot,”
“moron,” and other such things do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to promote their own arguments or “conservative ideals.”
Some of the replies to the blog article have been worse than the original blog.

Posted by: Upset | April 14, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

I am literally outraged at the notion that the rich or well educated deserve what they get when they are accused of rape. Perhaps the poor get what they deserve when they’re the victims of violent crime and it goes unpunished, too? Ridiculous.

Posted by: Skip | April 14, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

You know, I agree that they were not choirboys, but there is an interesting thing about the racial slurs they are alleged to have yelled. The late Ed Bradley interviewed one of the dancers on 60 Minutes and said that the slur was hurled as part of an exchange where she refered to the LAX team members as ‘little dick whiteboys.’ Now that is certainly a racial slur that plays on a racial stereotype about caucasians, yet where is the outcry about that? While I don’t think it justifies racist banter on the part of the players—two wrongs never make a right–I think it puts it into context and makes it more understanable (if not condonable). In my opinion, by making that kind of a remark, the woman opened the door for racial comments to be directed at her. And, yeah, while there are plenty of other people of lesser means who are victims of overzealous prosecutors, that doesn’t minimize the outrageous nature of what Nifong did. Truly, this is what it means when we say “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.”

Posted by: ted | April 14, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Terry,
Why don’t you just admit that these guys got a raw deal? You are trying to argue that their lives being dragged through the mud and their futures being threatened by an over-zealous, unethical prosecutor is somewhat near equal to the fact that they had a couple strippers over at a party.
Terry, get off your high horse. The media put these guys on trial — especially from legal media types like yourself and Nancy Grace, pronounced them guilty, and then did a Richard Jewell when, low and behold, the facts indicated another result.
If you want to criticize elites, why don’t you do a “20/20″ on the ridiculous, unfair, undeserved salaries CEO’s get when the country has been battling a recession.
If you want to criticize elites, why don’t you do a “20/20″ on why Harvard inflates its grades and its graduates are handed top-flite jobs other people can’t even get an interview for?
This country is run by elites with inflated egos and wallets. These were a bunch of kids who got their lives trashed, their reputations destroyed, and you try to make it sound like things were only fair. Get real.
Tom Moore
WCBM talk show host

Posted by: Tom Moore | April 14, 2007, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Can you say, sanctimony?

Posted by: Robert | April 14, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

You people that say these boys don’t deserve sympathy because they are rich are pathetic. Jealousy prevents you from having compassion for someone who is more successful than you!?!?! You people are sad and will never get anywhere in life nor do you deserve to. Stay in the gutters and maybe the successful people of this world will have pity and toss you some blessings occasionally after you squander the welfare that is handed to you by individuals who actually contribute to this society.

Posted by: Brian | April 14, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

UPSET,
These are my sentiments exactly.

Posted by: Elias | April 14, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Why don’t you mention how their great-grandparents owned slaves and get it over with, you hack?

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2007, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Terry,
Why don’t you just admit that these guys got a raw deal? You are trying to argue that their lives being dragged through the mud and their futures being threatened by an over-zealous, unethical prosecutor is somewhat near equal to the fact that they had a couple strippers over at a party.
Terry, get off your high horse. The media put these guys on trial — especially from legal media types like yourself and Nancy Grace, pronounced them guilty, and then did a Richard Jewell when, low and behold, the facts indicated another result.
If you want to criticize elites, why don’t you do a “20/20″ on the ridiculous, unfair, undeserved salaries CEO’s get when the country has been battling a recession.
If you want to criticize elites, why don’t you do a “20/20″ on why Harvard inflates its grades and its graduates are handed top-flite jobs other people can’t even get an interview for?
This country is run by elites with inflated egos and wallets. These were a bunch of kids who got their lives trashed, their reputations destroyed, and you try to make it sound like things were only fair. Get real.
Tom Moore
WCBM talk show host

Posted by: Tom Moore | April 14, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

As for your comment regarding the privileged athletes of Duke, “They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
A year from now, when the Rutgers’ girls are celebrated across the country as America’s team and the inherent marketing mania begins, these girls will settle down on a seat in history next to Rosa Parks.
Movies, commercial endorsements, books, employment, as well as educational opportunities–in all fields– will welcome the ambassadors of racial harmony into their hallowed halls.
Professional schools will find much to value in these young women whose collective voice will resonate throughout the world
as the Scarlet Knights (scarlet indeed) seize their monumental moment in time to affect change, most notably in the African American community, where the future looks bleak.
As the world becomes more competitive with the inflow of Mexicans, Indians and Asians–for both high-end careers and less skilled labor positions on the lower end of the economic scale, the African-American community should seek the leadership and wisdom from people like Obama Barak, Bill Cosby and NBA star Grant Hill, rather than accept the hypocritical detritus of Alvin Iverson, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson whose notion of racism is exclusive to white on black .
In conclusion, while I’m more willing to accept your point of view that the, “[Duke lacrosse players] are very differently situated in life from … the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team,” I’ll wait a year to determine the reason why.

Posted by: roger barone | April 14, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Your comments sicken me. It’s okay to feel sorry for black people who don’t have a lot of money when they are wronged but it is not okay to feel sorry for the white person who has been wronged who is doing good financially? That’s a racist view if I have ever heard of one. Wrong is wrong whether it is commited to a black,red, white or yellow person regardless of their fiancial status. To suggest otherwise is a racist and prejudice suggestion. Let’s not lessen the responsibility of the attackers (in this case the girl who CLAIMED rape and Nifong) because of the color and financial status of the victims. Let’s not negate the wrongs to the victims because of the victim’s past or their “less than admirable” actions. Also, who is to say that the families of these guys are not financially devistated with all the money they shelled out to defend thier INNOCENT loved ones?? When it is time for you to eat crow (and there will come a time) may you do it with true humbleness and sincerity and may you be able to truly forgive yourself when you realize the impact your words have had on others.

Posted by: shari | April 14, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

UPSET,
These are my sentiments exactly.

Posted by: Elias | April 14, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Feeling sorry for anyone isn’t the important thing by a long shot. Yeah, the Duke players probably had pretty good lives before the false accusation. No, it’s not good to hire strippers. Sure, they will probably go on to have pretty good lives again. There are lots of people who got screwed worse and deserve more sympathy. So what? Does that make the prosecution’s misdeeds less? Those boys could all be lecherous billionaires and it wouldn’t count one tiny bit to soften the seriousness of what these liars have done. Nifong and Manring are criminals who deserve heavy, heavy punishment. That’s the important thing, not the internal, subjective feelings of someone sitting in front of a computer screen.

Posted by: woah-woah-woah | April 14, 2007, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

As for your comment regarding the privileged athletes of Duke, “They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
A year from now, when the Rutgers’ girls are celebrated across the country as America’s team and the inherent marketing mania begins, these girls will settle down on a seat in history next to Rosa Parks.
Movies, commercial endorsements, books, employment, as well as educational opportunities–in all fields– will welcome the ambassadors of racial harmony into their hallowed halls.
Professional schools will find much to value in these young women whose collective voice will resonate throughout the world
as the Scarlet Knights (scarlet indeed) seize their monumental moment in time to affect change, most notably in the African American community, where the future looks bleak.
As the world becomes more competitive with the inflow of Mexicans, Indians and Asians–for both high-end careers and less skilled labor positions on the lower end of the economic scale, the African-American community should seek the leadership and wisdom from people like Obama Barak, Bill Cosby and NBA star Grant Hill, rather than accept the hypocritical detritus of Alvin Iverson, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson whose notion of racism is exclusive to white on black .
In conclusion, while I’m more willing to accept your point of view that the, “[Duke lacrosse players] are very differently situated in life from … the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team,” I’ll wait a year to determine the reason why.

Posted by: roger barone | April 14, 2007, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

As for your comment regarding the privileged athletes of Duke, “They are very differently situated in life from, say, the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team.”
A year from now, when the Rutgers’ girls are celebrated across the country as America’s team and the inherent marketing mania begins, these girls will settle down on a seat in history next to Rosa Parks.
Movies, commercial endorsements, books, employment, as well as educational opportunities–in all fields– will welcome the ambassadors of racial harmony into their hallowed halls.
Professional schools will find much to value in these young women whose collective voice will resonate throughout the world
as the Scarlet Knights (scarlet indeed) seize their monumental moment in time to affect change, most notably in the African American community, where the future looks bleak.
As the world becomes more competitive with the inflow of Mexicans, Indians and Asians–for both high-end careers and less skilled labor positions on the lower end of the economic scale, the African-American community should seek the leadership and wisdom from people like Obama Barak, Bill Cosby and NBA star Grant Hill, rather than accept the hypocritical detritus of Alvin Iverson, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson whose notion of racism is exclusive to white on black .
In conclusion, while I’m more willing to accept your point of view that the, “[Duke lacrosse players] are very differently situated in life from … the young women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team,” I’ll wait a year to determine the reason why.

Posted by: roger barone | April 14, 2007, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Your comments sicken me. It’s okay to feel sorry for black people who don’t have a lot of money when they are wronged but it is not okay to feel sorry for the white person who has been wronged who is doing good financially? That’s a racist view if I have ever heard of one. Wrong is wrong whether it is commited to a black,red, white or yellow person regardless of their fiancial status. To suggest otherwise is a racist and prejudice suggestion. Let’s not lessen the responsibility of the attackers (in this case the girl who CLAIMED rape and Nifong) because of the color and financial status of the victims. Let’s not negate the wrongs to the victims because of the victim’s past or their “less than admirable” actions. Also, who is to say that the families of these guys are not financially devistated with all the money they shelled out to defend thier INNOCENT loved ones?? When it is time for you to eat crow (and there will come a time) may you do it with true humbleness and sincerity and may you be able to truly forgive yourself when you realize the impact your words have had on others.

Posted by: shari | April 14, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

I have to agree, Terry MORON, you are an idiot!!

Posted by: MORON | April 14, 2007, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Well Terry, for you to have such hatred for the three innocent defendents Duke players, you must have had your homosexual advances rejected by some lacrosse player back when you were young.

Posted by: Don't Watch ABC | April 14, 2007, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Careless uninformed thoughts lead to careless journalism

Posted by: Menkin | April 14, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

This is the most liberal article I have read in a long while. I have completely lost all respect I had for ABC news. Attacking the Duke player’s innocence because of their background, is just a sad way for the Liberal media to bash the people the do not support them. This aticle is a perfect example for why the media has a bad reputation.

Posted by: Creighton | April 14, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

I need not address the points of this article. Everyone can see this for what it is. Your view just depends on what side of the battle your on. Bash whitey or push the lies of the “less fortunate”.
Terry Moran is the typical skirt wearing male. He is a poster boy sissy.
The battle has begun. Who will win the war?

Posted by: Birmingham | April 14, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

Terry,
As all coward liberals demonstrate, you sir, are also an idiot.

Posted by: Chris | April 14, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

It’s sad how after only reading one article of Terry’s, that I see how much he hates himself and this country. Many journalist’s become delusional I believe, and I hope ABC also recognizes this and hires professional psychotherapists for you all.

Posted by: Ron | April 14, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Don’t feel too sorry for these privileged elite? Try looking in the mirror buddy. What university did you graduate from?
Were you also privileged? Then and now? The media jumped on this story for one reason and one reason only.
There were some white boys to be lynched. And the media got the ropes and ran for the nearest tree. And now that they have been exonerated?
People like you want to blather on about their privilege and their ability to defend themselves and how wonderful their lives will be.
(rolleyes)
There is always some liberal socialist relativist, to come forth and be an apologist for the wrong and an accuser of the right.
You are no different. but everyone that reads your tripe and hyperbole? Isn’t stupid.

Posted by: Carl | April 14, 2007, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Terry Moran: Perhaps some day YOU will wrongfuly be acused of a capital crime by a wanton prosecurtor acting from political motivation. Of course, I am sure that we can count on you to avoid using your financial resources and high powered media connections to defend youself. To be honest, Mr. Moran, I find the sentiments expressed in this blog item to be thoroughly discusting! I hope that the families of these guys are able to bring civil suits against that corrupt DA and other responsible parties, and I hope they prevail and win very large damage awards.

Posted by: Chris L. | April 14, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

so because they were college kids hiring strippers and their conduct was less than stellar you’re insinuating THAT’S reason to be in trouble? That because they are rich, priveleged, great representation and that others who are poor get railroaded all the time that we shouldn’t feel sorry for them?? So what does that say about our DA’s everywhere? You’re saying they are screwing poor people even worse also every day, so that’s ok then as noone covers those and these kids are lucky?! Wow. sounds like we need to look at ALL DA’s then, huh!?

Posted by: Kevin D | April 14, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Disgusting piece of ‘work’.
Karma – I can only hope it has more sympathy on you than you do for these kids.

Posted by: Colby | April 14, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Don’t register to vote. That way your moronic understanding of justice won’t jepordize the freedom of another American.

Posted by: Joe | April 14, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

You my friend are a true idiot. Frankly, I am surprised ABC allows someone as ignorant as you to report. I just completely lost faith in ABC’s ability to accurately report due to this piece of work here. Terry, you truly brought shame to ABC here.

Posted by: svx | April 14, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Disgusting piece of ‘work’.
Karma – I can only hope it has more sympathy on you than you do for these kids.

Posted by: Colby | April 14, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

I can understand the reasoning behind minimizing the harm done to these young men. You went to much effort to excuse Mike Nifong, because you and many others were in the lynching mob.

Posted by: Roger | April 14, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Actually, the fact that ABC News employs a reporter who apparently holds the views that Moran expressed here regarding the Duke boys says a lot about ABC News. And you guys/gals in the broadcast media wonder why some many people out here in the real world think that you are biased in your reporting. Go figure.

Posted by: Chris L. | April 14, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Hard to believe an educated person wrote this foolsih article, but then again, it is indicative of why MSM has so little credibility and we choose to get better information elsewhere.
These three young men endured liberal media guilty until proven innocent press, Duke teachers who provided their own noose prior to a full investigation, a gun-totin prosecutor who let no factual evidence stand in his way and an accuser who never could tell the same story even once and you write how easy these people had it in the carriage of justice. Shame on you and the system of government and your press colleagues who by and large never let up on these men.
I would gather that you did virtually no reseach to write this “pap” and you expect me to swallow any part of it? LOL!!

Posted by: Tim E | April 14, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

THE AUTHOR IS SIMPLY ANOTHER DEMOCRAT. HE’S CRYING ABOUT THE POOR AND OPPRESSED NOT GETTING ANY COVERAGE……WELL….HE’S THE REPORTER HERE. WHY ISN’T HE COVERING THEM?….

Posted by: joe | April 14, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

I’m just wonderin’ why there hasn’t been any official response from either Terry ‘Lib’ Moran or ABC News. The longer it goes without being addressed, the more likely it is to be swept under the rug. People, you must understand that probably 90% of the people working at ABC News want to defend Moran, whether they think he’s an idiot or not.
I get the feeling that ABC News leadership is in full crisis mode, trying to figure out how to salvage Terry’s job.
ABC News: If you don’t fire Moran, you’re gonna suffer for it.

Posted by: Wonderin' | April 14, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Moran = moron

Posted by: Bill Warren | April 14, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Posted by: Anthony Richards | April 14, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Terry Moron, you truly suck.

Posted by: Don Hedrick | April 14, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

You live in another dimension Moran! It’s just like ABC to hire idiots like you who spew out left winged stories that have no logic to them but only serve to prop up a dimented sense of ‘do-gooderism!’ Why didn’t you mention in your stupid article that the black panthers marched, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton preached their usual bigoted anti-white race sentiments, all while the black Duke educators called for a lynching before any evidence of their guilt came out. All it took was a black woman saying she was raped, and all hell broke loose with the left wing media types like you. You are the true example of the ‘Imus syndrome’ and it’s you who should be barred from spewing your obvious crap to the American Citizenry! I bet you got your education somewhere in the northeast of midwest didn’t you, you blithering idiot!

Posted by: David Tucker | April 14, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Oh look, Terry has started posting comments in his own post! Don’t pat yourself on the back too hard “Chris L”.

Posted by: JeffC | April 14, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

You live in another dimension Moran! It’s just like ABC to hire idiots like you who spew out left winged stories that have no logic to them but only serve to prop up a dimented sense of ‘do-gooderism!’ Why didn’t you mention in your stupid article that the black panthers marched, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton preached their usual bigoted anti-white race sentiments, all while the black Duke educators called for a lynching before any evidence of their guilt came out. All it took was a black woman saying she was raped, and all hell broke loose with the left wing media types like you. You are the true example of the ‘Imus syndrome’ and it’s you who should be barred from spewing your obvious crap to the American Citizenry! I bet you got your education somewhere in the northeast of midwest didn’t you, you blithering idiot!

Posted by: David Tucker | April 14, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

The city of Durham will pay for their mistake. The black community elected Nifong, produced, unleashed and supported the liar and their taxes will pay the rich white lawyers of these rich white kids.

Posted by: Mark | April 14, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

To DRD:
Racial Epithets? You say that’s covered by the first amendment, but why weren’t they charged with ethnic intimidation? Because something is REALLY suspicious about how this case was completed in such a neat and tidy way.
If this woman is too mentally out of it to be prosecuted for purjury, maybe that had an impact on why her story allegedly kept changing. Was she ever taken to a psychologist? Was there ever a guardian ad litem appointed for her or even considered?
Why did the State Bar get involved in this case in the middle of a pending criminal case? Because they knew that the conflict of interest would be so great that Nifong WOULD HAVE TO WITHDRAW.
This whole thing is VERY VERY SUSPICIOUS. It seems that the State Attorney General came on board looking for a reason to drop the case. There was too much pressure to drop it and guess what, that’s what happened.
Why couldn’t they get the JUDGE to drop the case? The judge didn’t or wouldn’t do it, so they went around him, ignored all the court precident that lets the judge make a decision on recusal and any ethics issues are decided AFTER the case is completed in court. Nifong’s BIGGEST mistake was to recuse himself.
Everyone, including the three young men would have been better off to let this process be completed in court, exposed to the light of day, rather than by Bar Association insiders and the Attorney General’s office. There would have been far fewer people questioning the outcome of the case. Now we’ll never know the truth because he’s sealed 2000 pages. Those documents need to be released, with the exception of her medical records.
When we say we have a system in which justice is blind, and that means that we don’t operate under a star chamber type proceedings. In this case there are some very serious questions as to whether justice was blind and whether the procedures used were fair. I guarantee you that the next time a minority or a poor person claims prosecutorial misconduct the state bar and Attorney General will do nothing to interviene UNTIL AFTER a court has determined that there is merit to the charge.
If you notice, there was far more public interest in the Imus case than the withdrawal of charges in this case, most likely because people know that something fishy went on here and aren’t that emotionally invested in the outcome.
SHAME.
Thank you Mr. Moran for speaking your mind and not jumping on the media bandwagon regarding the outcome of this case.

Posted by: Lynn | April 14, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Hey, I didn’t know I was smarter than Terry Moran. Way to go me!

Posted by: Sam Benigo | April 14, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Terry Moran, your logic stinks. The three Duke guys were falsely indicted. Deal with that and quite making excuses for a liar. Get you head screwed on straight or get the hell out of broadcasting.

Posted by: Jay Rizzo | April 14, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

I, unlike svx, did not lose respect for Terry Moran or his news channel over this incredibly stupid article. My respect for them was lost years ago.
Terry, you are one sick, twisted, evil dude.

Posted by: Bruce | April 14, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Terry
How can you say that you are an honest fair journalist when you spew crap like this!
You are not a reporter you are a newsmaker and you like it to be the center of attention. I know you sit in front of your laptop and smile and think: “what an inferior creatures are this people that post their remarks …” . I wish to be around for the day when all the big media dinosaurs are gone and are replaced by unbiased reportes that just report the news not try to influence it and put their two cents into it. Just to think in these terms is sick, let alone publish them. You are something else. Is ABC really paying you as a reporter?!… Well no surprise here after all is ABC and I don’t think they are in the reporting business they are in the news fabrication business and you fit right in.

Posted by: Matthew | April 14, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

The comments is this column show a complete lack of reason and a shallow hated for others. Let me get this right…the fact that the wrongfully accused were members of a group that hired stippers and may have shown distasteful..but not illegal conduct somehow that makes it less of a shame that these young men were put through this horrible unjust ordeal. If Imus lost his job..this guy should too!!!

Posted by: Norman Valz | April 14, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

BUSH: Overplayed his hand, suckered the media, went to war. Result: More than 3,000 Americans killed, countless Iraqis; created ill will around the world.
NIFONG: Overplayed his hand, suckered the media, went to grand jury. Result: three men inconvenienced for a year.
Perhaps, Terry, there are more important things to write about.

Posted by: Chromedome Syllogism | April 14, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

I cant believe this guy considers himself a journalist. You are an idiot for saying the things u did. Tool bag. lets accuse you of rape for over a year and see how you feel when you come out of it jack a**

Posted by: Don | April 14, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Terry;
If any of your very wealthy friends was wrongly accused of a serious crime, had their names plastered all over the TV and newpapers, had Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the New Black Panthers proclaiming the guilt of your rich friends, I do not think you would be writing an article that we should not feel too sorry for your good pals.
As is typical with arrogant elites such as yourself any time you do not have any “skin in the game,” you freely shoot off your mouth because you have nothing to lose.
Let’s all hope something like this happens to you or a close relative or friend of yours and let’s all see if you write an idiotic article.
And the elites wonder why conventional news programs are losing viewers.

Posted by: Uncle Joe | April 14, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Terry, if you’re so upset about the Duke case of prosecutorial misconduct getting so much attention at the expense of other prosecutorial misconduct around the nation, WHY WASTE YOUR BLOG TIME TALKING ABOUT THE DUKE CASE?! You could have enlightened us about other cases of the ‘lying accuser/rabid DA’ variety.
We, the unwashed masses, are not the ones that sent hundreds of reporters to cover the Duke case. That was you. That was ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, you name it. YOU GUYS decided this was a big story. Not us. So take the plank out of your own eye first, Terry.
You and your superiors loved the racial implications of this story. Face it! You LOVED the idea of a bunch of white college lacrosse players abusing a black stripper. All the major news agencies weren’t sending dozens of reporters to cover generic, ‘boring’ cases of prosecutorial misconduct. No. They sent them all to Duke. So don’t blame US for YOUR failures as journalists, and don’t blame us for your rushing to get there first for a sensational story full of white college boys and racist undertones.
Again, where is ABC News on this? Why have there been no statements about Moran’s article? Can’t quite figure out how to handle this one?

Posted by: Wonderin' | April 14, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

These young men were behaving in ways they should not have, but, as I read in one of the early comments, two wrongs do not a right make.
This is typical of what is happening in the media and politics of our day. This is politically-correct slime. Can anybody even fathom the outrage and the calls for acquittal had black athletes been accused of this crime by a white stripper? It would have been the headline for weeks until the prosecutor gave up on this. This happens frequently in the NBA and NFL, where athletes, usually black, quite often break the law. Yet you never hear them slandered in the way that these young men were, even if the evidence is irrefutable.

Posted by: thelonedrifter | April 14, 2007, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Hey Terry, Are you or are you not a member of “the media”? Why don’t you cover all these cases of prosecutorial injustice?

Posted by: Jimmy | April 14, 2007, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Vidalia_Girl,
If you have to explain Mr. Moran’s intentions, then it appears incompetence should also be taken into account if ABC – as you suggested – addresses this issue.
Any way you slice it, it does not bode well for Mr. Moran.

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

What a horrible column.

Posted by: brmerrick | April 14, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Gov. Corzine is a VERY rich white guy and I am sure he will “learn his lesson” if he survives. The foolish action of the three Dukies made them vulnerable to, not an accident, but the sustained malicious actions of Nifong and the MSM.

Posted by: pgt | April 14, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Just like all other libs – no matter what is right or wrong, let’s feel sorry for the poor guy. The rich don’t deserve anything good. If it wasn’t for the media – like Terry – those boys wouldn’t have been presumed guilty and plastered all over America. This is just Terry’s way of not feeling guilty for rushing to judgement. FIRE HIM

Posted by: rushlover | April 14, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Articles like yours is why I have lost all faith in the credibility of our main stream media. When you victimize the victim because of color, wealth, religion or any other character rather than the injustice, then one must assume our media is hopelessly lost. I have no idea what it is going to take to get journalist back to doing the job they initially did with pride. Try reporting the news from both sides instead of the angle and tilt you are now doing.

Posted by: cclevel | April 14, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Moran—-you’re a sick man up to the usual left wing crap of dividing the people by class. You have money there fore you’re dishonest, unethical, unfair, ad infinitem, ad nausium.

Posted by: robert bayer | April 14, 2007, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Just like all other libs – no matter what is right or wrong, let’s feel sorry for the poor guy. The rich don’t deserve anything good. If it wasn’t for the media – like Terry – those boys wouldn’t have been presumed guilty and plastered all over America. This is just Terry’s way of not feeling guilty for rushing to judgement. FIRE HIM Also, requesting a white girl? If blacks requested only black girls, no one would say anything!

Posted by: rushlover | April 14, 2007, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

I’ll stop feeling sorry for these three young men when Mike Nifong is out of office and disbarred, and the accuser is prosecuted for perjury and making false reports to invoke prosecution. They are both extraordinarily sad pieces of…
…trash. Yeah, trash. That’s it. Trash.
‘Til then, Mr. Reporter, crawl back under that rock and drink some more of whatever it was that so sorely befuddled your judgment.
D. Edgren

Posted by: D. Edgren | April 14, 2007, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Just like all other libs – no matter what is right or wrong, let’s feel sorry for the poor guy. The rich don’t deserve anything good. If it wasn’t for the media – like Terry – those boys wouldn’t have been presumed guilty and plastered all over America. This is just Terry’s way of not feeling guilty for rushing to judgement. FIRE HIM Also, requesting a white girl? If blacks requested only black girls, no one would say anything!

Posted by: rushlover | April 14, 2007, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

The tragedy of the publicly paraded Duke mess is the impact it will have on future rape situations that are real, not hoax. Yes, the lives of these young men were disrupted, but let’s not make saints of them. They exercised poor judgement when they drank, hired strippers, hurled racial slurs and acted like entitled, privledged white boys they are. Are we still justifying their actions under the old axiom “let boys be boys?” Nonsense. They got themselves in a sticky situation and had to get themselves out. They deserve no pity or special treatment.

Posted by: Nancy W. | April 14, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Seems pretty clear to me:
If a crotchety old white man who has been insulting people on his radio show for 30 years insults a group of black females who are college athletes by calling them names, he is fired.
If a black female accuses a small group of white males of rape and causes them to be under indictment for 14 months, be thrown out of school, have to restore their names, records, lose their opportunity to participate in college athletics, and to have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend themselves against an unsubstantiated lie the result is “okay, sorry about the mix-up”
And, according to Mr. Moran, that they had it coming for committing the following sins:
1. being white
2. being male
3. having been at a party
4. having hired an adult entertainer
5. being “rich”
I certainly agree with the sentiment that people contact abcnews and demand an apology. The only way to end this tragic double standard is to seek to apply it to Mr. Moran who has done exactly what Imus did.

Posted by: jb | April 14, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Mr. Moran, please set out the criteria by which a wise person like you decides to feel sorry for somebody. I need the guidelines so that I will know when to judge somebody in need of sympathy and when I can ignore injustice.

Posted by: Ray | April 14, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

I don’t quite get the ‘they requested one white stripper’ comment. Is Mr. Moran complementing the boys for their sensitivity to diversity. Only one white stripper and the rest of other ethnic origins. Isn’t this sort of thinking to be celebrated? Thank goodness they did not request ‘no African American girls’. They would surely be facing hate crime charges.

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

please change your name to Terry MORON so that no one will falsely accuse you of being one. Your WHITE GUILT runs very deep. Deal with it on your own terms instead of using your job to spread that awful disease.

Posted by: traff | April 14, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

While we are at it Terri, let’s not feel to sorry for the Jews of the Holocaust after all “The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.”

Posted by: Stevanski | April 14, 2007, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Hey Mr Empathy,
What about the rest of the team that had their season canceled?
How about the coach that lost his job?
How about the next LEGITIMATE RAPE VICTIM that someone may not believe?
How do you get through the day being that angry at the world?

Posted by: Tom | April 14, 2007, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Terry – You should be ashamed of yourself – you are a hack writer.
Please put you are or family in these kids shoes- – -you P.O.S.!!

Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2007, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Imus just called the wrong ones Nappy Headed Ho. Crystal Gale is the real thing.

Posted by: jack | April 14, 2007, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Are you out of your frickin mind? What did these boys do wrong? They did what boys do at any college USA. You want to be mad, be mad at nappy headed guys like Jessie & Al, they keep the blacks down. They keep blacks as an underclass, you gotta want to advance before you really can. Get some real black leaders like The Cos, then lets talk about it.
Terry your PC is showing!!!

Posted by: Rick Bradley | April 14, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Perfect! I’d expect a remark like that from you, “Terry”, you smug, self-regarding little twit. Be honest ladies, would any of us even think of dating this aging Breck girl?

Posted by: sidonie | April 14, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Nancy W,
I find it quite ironic that you would implore the ‘they had it coming’ defense against these kids. If any man used the ‘she had it coming’ defense against a rape victim…..oh my!!!!
But yet it’s perfectly acceptable to use it against ‘rich white kids’. Thank you for making my earlier point that it seems the vast majority of posters whom agree with Mr. Moran have a venomous hatred for ‘rich white people’.

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Reverse racism. Pure and simple. And the beauty of it is its perfectly acceptable in the liberal press! Whites are evil, the poor oppressed minority are victims.

Posted by: Tommy | April 14, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

HO-MO!

Posted by: Bill Grand | April 14, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

You have got to be kicking. These men were wrongly and intentionally accused of rape, and prosecuted by an unethical prosecutor who withheld and hid evidence, in a case that was GLORIFIED by the drive-by media. And now, when it turns out hte drive-by media was wrong–the response is, “Well, don’t feel to sorry for them, look at all the others wrongly accused elsewhere?” And, “But… they hired strippers!”
The media picked its side and convicted these men, it a politically correct witch-hunt. Now it has to deal with the consequences. But an apology from the media? Never. Instead, blame the victims.

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

If Mr. Moran loses his job over this, as I suspect he will – don’t feel too sorry for him – after all: he is a rich white male.

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

What is it that effects America? Lack of responsibilty for ones actions.
The fact that Ms. Magnum isn’t going to be prosuted for her LIES is BEYOND belief.
People are victims and the aggressor should be punished–this time it was Ms. Magnum who is the aggressor so why isn’t she in jail. AND can we get the state to take care of her 3 children from different fathers. Where’s copral punishment when you need it.
BB

Posted by: BlueBalls | April 14, 2007, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

sounds like the author of this story is just a tad bit jelous…..And psychotic….

Posted by: DO | April 14, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Don’t register to vote. That way your moronic understanding of justice won’t jepordize the freedom of another American by being selected for Grand Jury Duty.

Posted by: Joe | April 14, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Ol Terry must be trying to become
the most despised journalist this
past week.
Yup! Terry just passed Imus!
Two peas in a pod I say.

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Posted by: Candido | April 14, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Terry Moron…plain and simple. Ever been to college? Ever seen a stripper or been to a party that had one? Ever play a sport…well and on a college level? Ever get a chick? Ever get a little crazy? Ever get screwed over by an over-zealous DA and liberal media that all but convicts you? Ever think you just might be a jerk-off?

Posted by: Kelly | April 14, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Terry Moron…plain and simple. Ever been to college? Ever seen a stripper or been to a party that had one? Ever play a sport…well and on a college level? Ever get a chick? Ever get a little crazy? Ever get screwed over by an over-zealous DA and liberal media that all but convicts you? Ever think you just might be a shmuck?

Posted by: Kelly | April 14, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

This is the saddest logic and most polluted world view that i have ever seen. Grow up Moran.

Posted by: Derek | April 14, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Terry’s all mad because when he
in colledge, he wanted to have
strippers at his party, but his
mom told him no.

Posted by: Brain | April 14, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Main thing found apt about the article is the correlation between the views and the writer’s last name. He forgets that their lives will forever be greatly complicted by this event – and moreover that will be so, due more to the media attention that leftists like you generate (and continue to generate in your quixotic quest to alwasy have the last word – about opinions) – then from the charges (before or after the denounement) themselves.

Posted by: Joe blow | April 14, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Terry’s all mad because when he
was in colledge, he wanted to have
strippers at his party, but his
mom told him no.

Posted by: Brain | April 14, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

I guess Terry Moran missed the press conference after the charges were dropped where these boys all said that this experience has opened their eyes to a whole world of injustice that they never knew existed. They also said that they can only imagine how bad it is for people wrongly accused who do not have the resources to defend themselves the way they did. Interesting omission.
By the way Terry, if in ten years one or more of these boys has something else terrible happen to them will you still be shouting “DON`T FORGET, THEY COLLECTED $800 TO HIRE STRIPPERS BACK IN COLLEGE, LET`S NOT FEEL TOO SORRY FOR THEM”? Give me a break.

Posted by: Bill | April 14, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Interesting that Mr. Moran never once holds the ‘victim’ accountable in his story. Does he not think that African American females are worthy enough to be held to the same standards as whites? This reeks of racism on his part. In addition, he states that racial slurs were used, but that the boys were innocent, according to the current prosecutor. So he declares as if proven fact that racial slurs were strewn about but he goes to the trouble to ‘qualify’ boys innocence. This is one of the more unfair things I’ve ever read. And from someone who claims to be a journalist.

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

What a pathetic attempt to salvage something, anything from the media’s complicity in a frenzy of delite over what they thought was the perfect storm. “White privilege” strikes again. Those “well heeled” people of means show themselves for the slime that they are. Moran just can’t get over the fact people who achieve wealth and prosperity aren’t all greedy robber barrons out to rape and pillage the “loosers in life’s lottery” I wonder how much wealth and prosperity Moran enjoys. Whatever it is I’m sure he doesn’t live in a trailer park. He just behaves like he does.

Posted by: jim quinn | April 14, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

you are a useless brainless leftwing scumbag nd one hopes, if you ever have children, that if it ever happens to them, tht they have someone to stand up for them against a crazed political hack — especially since they’ll know their father won’t.

Posted by: warren murphy | April 14, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Reade Seligman, Collin Finnerty and David Evans will always have to be refered to as “The Accused Duke La Cross Team Rapists”. They’re the real victims here; their lives are ruined because of the claims of some nefarious sociopath that pressed a phony claim and was abetted by an unscrupulous District Attorney pandering for votes for his impending re-election. This accuser should be publicly shamed for as long as these men have to endure the stigma of her falacious claims. Mike Nifong should be disbarred.

Posted by: Lawrence | April 14, 2007, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Shame on you, faux reporter! You clearly have never competed on a collegiate level and had an opportunity to pursue an athletic dream. Imagine for a moment, that you have worked your entire life to compete on this level and some waste of life individual with a victim mentality tries to take advantage of our litigous society for her own personal gain. These athletes have paid the price of lost opportunity that they will never get back. And you get to spout your moronic banter most likely stemming from you own lack of achievement that yielded another so-called-journalist. You should think before you type, but of course, that would keep you from being a journalist in the first place!

Posted by: Disgusted reader | April 14, 2007, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Kelly makes a good point- These are college kids who are athletic, well financed, probably conservative (although a night with some strippers clearly crosses all political and lifestyle realms)and went out and had a good time like almost all of us have at one time or another. These guys are college aged athletes for crying out loud who deserve some slack. Moron hates these guys because he’s up to his neck in class envy as most liberals are. He hates their looks, their financial well-being, their athleticism on and on and on. You don’t hate like this in an opinion piece and not have some “other” issues behind the venom a guy like this inks. These kids were f-ed plain and simple and that’s the story here.

Posted by: Richie | April 14, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

I expect provocative commentary from a reporter, but I am shocked at some of the comments in this section. Discrimination against young adults WHO DO NOT CHOOSE THEIR COLOR OR SOCIOECONOMIC STANDING is wrong in every case.

Posted by: j phillips | April 14, 2007, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

This country never ceases to amaze me. No matter what happened to these kids and what they went through, it’s not enough for some people. How some people can say “well other people have been through the same or worse” so they shouldn’t complain. Yes, other people have spent time in jail for crimes they didn’t commit but was DNA used in those cases to convict them…probably not because if it was available they wouldn’t have been in jail unless the DA hide the results of DNA as done in this case. And did those people have 55 so-called professors determine they were guilty before any evidence was turned over. Did they have to go through students walking around campus calling them rapists and other horrible names, Civil Right leaders using their names in the press and deciding they were guilty because a liar lied about what happened. The Durham community was divided by this because of race, and why? Because the press, the community, Civil Right Leaders, the University, fellow students and anyone that watched the bias news believed a lie by a liar who had a DA on her side that wanted to win re-election to his DA seat.
These boys didn’t deserve and no one else does. When is this country going to wake up and stop believing all these people that have agenda’s they want to push by using tragic cases like this one. Stop believing the lies by liars. Believe the truth and if you don’t know what the truth is wait until the truth is determined.
Why can’t we all just get a long?

Posted by: Riggo | April 14, 2007, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Everyone knows the only reason the prosecutor pursued this case despite the total lack of evidence was due to a liberal media frenzy over the issue of political correctness.

Posted by: imp | April 14, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

So being rich, white and male makes one bad and deserving of having bad things happen to them? What if this were to happen to some other spoiled rich white men, say Al Gore, Bono, Tom Cruise, Dan Rather? Would this liberal with a blog be so unsympathetic? No, but he would be just as pathetic!

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Just wanted to add one more post supporting the fact that Terry is misguided.
Whatever personal issues you have with “privileged” students, you shouldn’t let them blind you, now or when the students were wrongly accused of rape.
PLEASE, we emplore you to report the facts and keep your liberal, emotionally driven biases to yourself. I am boycotting ABC officially.

Posted by: RB | April 14, 2007, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

When I decided to post a comment I thought for a moment to give a rational and thoughtful post that would seem reasonable. Then I decided to do what Mr. Moron has done and let my true feelings show through.
What a whopper! Is this guy for real? I can’t help but wonder what events in his childhood helped to shape his views. Did his mother or father get fired by some wealthy white guy? Was his silver spoon tarnished when he ate from it? Did he have trouble making the lacrosse team in high school? Did some jock give him a wedgie that caused him to lose his manhood?
It is hard to give a rational dispasionate response to this kind of left wing media drivel. Once again lets blame whitey males for all of the ills in the world. This self flagulation by white liberals is just nauseating.
“Their team requested at least one white stripper” BFD Are you jealous that they didn’t request you?
Get a life. Get out of your caviar and champagne better than everyone mindset and take your head out of your ass! You have no business being on any media outlet. ABC deserves the poor rating but I’m sure that “journalists” like you make their liberal conscience feel better as the network slides into obscurity!

Posted by: PO'ed | April 14, 2007, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

You want to play the race and class card against the Duke students? Fine: Male, white, rich, in school, and in the end, innocent. Female, black, poor, not in school, and in the end, a liar.
Shame to condemn the innocent because of their racial and class status, while ignoring the guilty for the same reverse-racist/sexist ideals.
The accuser is scum. Because she is black, poor, and a woman changes nothing. She deserves no less scrutiny than anyone else, regardless of sex, race, or class.

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

Ron Burgandy has more credibility than this Caveman. Another fine notch in the ABC belt.

Posted by: MA | April 14, 2007, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

What a despicable and meanspirited commentary.

Posted by: Genny | April 14, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

It’s amazing just how stupid that sounds, so because i myself attend a private university and am caucasian, then i should be punished for my family’s success regardless of the facts?
though unbecoming in actions and tastes of hiring strippers its still a perfectly LEGAL thing to do, and should the roles have been reversed and a group of black men had asked for a white stripper would you still be posting such ridiculous remarks? stop posting your personal rants and simply fulfill your job and report the facts! SHE WAS GUILTY OF LYING!

Posted by: tom smith | April 14, 2007, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

It’s amazing just how stupid that sounds, so because i myself attend a private university and am caucasian, then i should be punished for my family’s success regardless of the facts?
though unbecoming in actions and tastes of hiring strippers its still a perfectly LEGAL thing to do, and should the roles have been reversed and a group of black men had asked for a white stripper would you still be posting such ridiculous remarks? stop posting your personal rants and simply fulfill your job and report the facts! SHE WAS GUILTY OF LYING!

Posted by: tom smith | April 14, 2007, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Let’s be real–they’re white, they’re male, and they come from privileged backgrounds. They’ll probably sell their stories for millions. I doubt any of them will suffer any long-term financial consequence.
While I think it’s terrible that they were wrongly accused, I also think it was terrible that they thought it was ok to hire strippers; this is just as much a sexist issue as it is a racist one.
Or is this a case of boys will be boys? Would I want my son in this type of organization, where young men pony up money to hire strippers, get drunk and get themselves into compromising situations?
I’d hope that I raised him with better respect for women than that, whether she’s a white woman or a black woman.

Posted by: E | April 14, 2007, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Your closing argument is the worst. There are many cases every year? Well, there are many cases of rape, too. So maybe we shouldn’t feel sorry for genuine victims of that, either. And, by the way, reputation is worth a lot more to a rich person than a poor person, when speaking of what it will do to your employment chances. So despite the things we rightly detest about their actions–things very common, unfortunately, to college sports players–I think it’s ridiculous to be downplaying the terrible thing that was done to them.
It’s just like saying of a rape victim, “She was asking for it.” I know you wouldn’t try printing that!

Posted by: Preston McConkie | April 14, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

By the logic of this reporter, the reporter should spend a year or two in prison because he’s an educated (supposed) white male! I’m sure those nappy headed HO’s sharpton or jackson will volunteer to represent him.

Posted by: Tim | April 14, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

Your closing argument is the worst. There are many cases every year? Well, there are many cases of rape, too. So maybe we shouldn’t feel sorry for genuine victims of that, either. And, by the way, reputation is worth a lot more to a rich person than a poor person, when speaking of what it will do to your employment chances. So despite the things we rightly detest about their actions–things very common, unfortunately, to college sports players–I think it’s ridiculous to be downplaying the terrible thing that was done to them.
It’s just like saying of a rape victim, “She was asking for it.” I know you wouldn’t try printing that!

Posted by: Preston McConkie | April 14, 2007, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Wow. I’m not sure who is more despicable. The writer of this article or the soulless woman who made up the lies.
If you think it’s possible for those accused of this crime to forget all this and put it in the past, you’re mistaken. The legal bills alone will last most of their lives. What’s worse is the fact that every relationship they have for the rest of their lives (especially with women) will be affected by these events. Oh wait.. you heard some people say they said bad things and seem like frat boys. Oh.. rumors that they said and behaved like that. It’s ok then.
You disgusts me that you get paid to write these words. You disgust me

Posted by: Doug S | April 14, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

I’m a white, heterosexual, active duty military, very Liberal leaning male. I cannot even begin to express my disgust with Mr. Moran. His opinion on this matter is THE perfect example of why Progressives and Liberals are not only viewed as shitbags, but deserving of that title. The Liberals today are so bent on destroying discrimination that they’ve become utterly INDISCRIMINATE in their views. It’s a recipe for madness, as displayed by his article. What a shame people like him have are the voice of the Left these days.

Posted by: Lance | April 14, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Wow. I’m not sure who is more despicable. The writer of this article or the soulless woman who made up the lies.
If you think it’s possible for those accused of this crime to forget all this and put it in the past, you’re mistaken. The legal bills alone will last most of their lives. What’s worse is the fact that every relationship they have for the rest of their lives (especially with women) will be affected by these events. Oh wait.. you heard some people say they said bad things and seem like frat boys. Oh.. rumors that they said and behaved like that. It’s ok then.
It disgusts me that you get paid to write these words. You disgust me

Posted by: Doug S | April 14, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

I can’t believe how it is that this fellow was not fired for this racist rant! He never would have written this if the “Dukies” were the sons of well-to-do black families. I’m sick and tired of this double standard that makes it ok to dump on white guys, and no one else. These guys were victims of a heinous crime, pure and simple, and they have paid dearly for a DA’s abuse of power.

Posted by: Tom | April 14, 2007, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Anyone that tries to excuse away the fact that the Lacross players accuser was lying from the begining and that the DA outright lied to get this matter heard is foolish. No matter that these young men were able to afford excellent lawyers, the one made the clear statement that it concerned him to think that there are many that cannont afford good leagal assistance and are wrongly jailed. Where is the apology from al sharpton and jesse jackson for jumping on the hate whitey wagon again, now there are some real hatemongers.
Look at oj, he get away with murder in court by paying high dollar lawyers, writes a book where he all but admits that he did it and got away with it. WHERE IS THE PUBLIC OUTCRY OVER THIS TRAVISTY OF “JUSTICE”
Screw your reverse racism; Wrong is wrong and right is right, the accuser, the DA and your false cry for “justice” is why we have the kind of problems in our world today. The days of crying wolf and playing that card is being seen for what it is.
On Imus, until the black community takes it to heart, stands up and stops saying the same things about itself what can they expect.
Hey ABC this is why you are losing tv viewer and radio listeners.

Posted by: robert anderson | April 14, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

What a crock, yet so typical of the holier than thou media elite. A week can’t go by without playing the class warfare game, can it? You people are so predictable, it would be hilarious if it weren’t so sad.
Hey, whatever allows you to sleep at night, my friend. I for one would never sign a petition to have you fired. Because you staying employed reminds everyone on a daily basis how unplugged and dangerous the mainstream media really is.
But the best part of all? They all hate Fox News (which I don’t care for all that much myself), and can’t figure out for the life of them why they get buried by them daily in the ratings. One needs to look no further than this “blog” for the answer.
Good going Terry…keep up the great work!

Posted by: Ron Ferraro | April 14, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

This is BS. I agree with Tony absolutely. There are hundreds of poor an d working class people that are unfairly accdused in much more egregious cases. They are treated like crap by the system (black, immigrant, and poor white) every day. I do not feel bad for these kids. I went to Duke and wrestled and hung out with the lacrosse team. They are a bunch of silver spoon entitled pricks by in large and I am sure they have done all sorts of sexist racist things in their time at Duke. That is almost a guarantee. This is a messed up system that favors there wealth. I might feel bad for them after they did 5-10 like most poor people unfairly accused but until then they can screw off!

Posted by: tw | April 14, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

If we are a christian country, how can we accept false witness? It is true, Imus slandered the Rutgers players. The Duke players were falsely accused of a crime and faced possible prison time. Not much of a comparison.
There are many persons that should apologize for their comments about the Duke players. The truth is, if there is not justice on all sides, there is no mountain top.
In the end, I hope those persons can swallow their pride and do the right thing.

Posted by: Bill | April 14, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

Terry, you are so right. THese kids should be in jail. The fact that they went to Duke is disgraceful. Duke hasn’t won a National Championship in Basketball in years. The football team is a sham.
Go Gators!!!

Posted by: Jorge D | April 14, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

What a complete jackass. Hope you get to experience an Imus-ing soon after this exhibition of logic and free speech. It’s nice to know that ABC has started hiring out of 3rd grade.

Posted by: scott | April 14, 2007, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

My friend put her self through college as an exotic dancer, she never had the problems of the accuser because she always brought a body guard with her and she didn’t drink. I can tell you that she went to many parties that had black and white athletes (a lot of football players). I don’t think America realizes how college athletes on scholarships live. They are given free room and board plus several hundred dollars a week in living expenses. So one doesn’t have to be “rich” or white to come up with the idea of alcohol and naked women. All I kept thinking the whole time this was happening was, “it could have been at my school.” It really could have happened to anyone, anywhere.

Posted by: Alyson | April 14, 2007, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

c’mon, moran, where are the MANY, MANY CASES OF PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT? I already know you pulled my post on april 13th because you and abc are in big trouble for allowing that ‘MANY, MANY CASES OF PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT’ statement knowing that every district attorney could go after you for SOME FLAVOR OF LIBEL.
WHERE ARE THE MANY, MANY CASES OF PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT THAT YOU STATE ‘FEW ARE COVERED BY THE MEDIA?’
ATTENTION ALL DISTRICT ATTORNEYS IN THE UNITED STATES: TERRY MORAN SAYS THAT YOU’VE COMMITTED MANY, MANY CASES OF PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT.
terry moran said there are many, many cases of PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT SO THEY JUST HAD TO HAPPEN.
C’MON DISTRICT ATTORNEYS: GIVE IT UP FOR MORAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: steve | April 14, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Thank you, Mr. Moran, for pointing out what needed to be said. Moral crimes, without recourse in the “Justice” system, are rampant in today’s modern youth. But our family values seem to be politically incorrect of late.
Yes, they escaped 20 years in prison for their crimes…only to face ETERNAL DAMNATION for their Hell-spawned lust and pagan desires.
May GOD have mercy on their souls.

Posted by: Smirky McCommander-in-Chief | April 14, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Maybe the prototypical liberal journalist from ABC didn’t hear the news………they are INNOCENT. Thank the almighty that they did have the financial means to defend themselves. Being wealthy is not yet a crime in this country.

Posted by: greg | April 14, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Hey Terry Did you get rejected by Duke University?
What else would cause you to be jealous of three young men whose lives were ruined by a prosecutor using the media for his political gain? What is it about the word innocent that doesn’t compute with your brain?
Hey, maybe Lawrence University your alma mater didn’t open any doors for you, maybe you had to be a ….. to ABC news.
Go report from Castro’s Cuba or cover the Iraq war or go to Iran & interview on ISlamic law.

Posted by: c. carey | April 14, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

There is a simple action available to everyone who is outraged by Moran’s unbelievable stance – boycott not just ABC and any and all of its affiliates, but anything associated with its owner Disney, any product and company which advertises on ABC or any of its associated companies, and let the advertisers and owners know what you are doing and why.
This type of bigotry is nauseating. Maybe April would make a good “let’s get idiots off the air month.” Pandering to race and class hatred is the sickest of the sick. This is NOT why we marched during the 60s, struggled to register voters, and wept when Dr. King was murdered.

Posted by: zed | April 14, 2007, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

For anyone who has had a friend that has been falsley arrested and accused…
My roommate was arresting on a resisting arrest charge…. because his license tag was expired. He was driving a leased car and he had a leter in the glove box. His crime? Atempting to reason with the officer and show him a letter from the leasing company telling him that they were working to resolve the issue.
This guy was beaten, cuffed and arrested. $10K later he was off… that same cop arrested and beat up two other innocents in the same year. Apparently he would have “his” bad days.
All three now must admit that they HAVE been arrested whenever they apply for a job.

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Terry Moron. Solipsism. Get a different job.

Posted by: Michael | April 14, 2007, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

I can only pray that you wrote this article to get the pulse of the reader going. If you actually think this way you are a lost soul. A soul that was so happy to have a story of the privilaged white boys getting their just reward. The poor woman of color being exploited by the white masters. Sorry the story had an unhappy ending for you.
I can only wonder what is happening at your media outlet when racists like yourself are given the special honor of reporting news and facts and editorializing. The jump to the conclusion that these jackasses were guilty as charged because they were privilaged is quite revealing of an underlying prejudice that is all too pervasive in our culuture. I am a white male in my late 50′s and grew up in the somewhat enlightened era of the sixties. I feel no guilt for the plight of the people of color. I detest racism. It is this false guilt that caused the over reaction at the start of this issue and allowed the rogue prosecutor to have his way for a short while. I feel quite sorry that we are still dividing ourselves along color lines however. Your thinking does just that. Injustice is injustice. How it it defined is difficult, but when I see it I knbow it. It existed in the incident. That is all that needed to be said.

Posted by: g higgins | April 14, 2007, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Outrageous. You have turned the world upside down. Your criticism of them is that they were not perfect people and acted like college students. At least I now know not to trust your reporting in the future.

Posted by: Ben Johnson | April 14, 2007, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

I don’t feel sorry for any college boys who hire strippers. I mean really, we are supposed to be upset by hip-hop? White college age men who feel the need to hire black strippers for their Frat Party is just as bad in my humble opinion. All these Right Wing bloggers defending these losers should be ashamed. And the mothers of these boys hiring strippers? They should be ashamed of their sons.

Posted by: Maria | April 14, 2007, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Terry
What you are really saying is that if you can afford to go to Duke, are a white male & a jock, legally hire a low-life stripper (excuse me, an exotic dancer, and can afford to hire a lawyer to challenge a politically motivated district attorney–then you are automatically guilty of something.
What is telling is what you did not say–that the stripper and Nifong are guilty of committing a crime against those boys and should be the ones prosecuted.
.

Posted by: Tom | April 14, 2007, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Yeah, 395 days!!! Just as long as the ‘Dukies’ had to struggle with that Stank ho.

Posted by: dave | April 14, 2007, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

terry. . terry. . . bless Your little heart. . what a self delusional chap . . . .his only goal is to make his isolated and limiting existence matter . . but yet . . . it does not. . . thus one cannot ever . . . nor should they. . ever expect him to ever realize his misplaced logic. pray for him

Posted by: Carlos | April 14, 2007, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

What an idiot. Reporters and writers like yourself are what is helping ABC and other “drive by’s” die a wonderfully horrible death. You are the Fox Network’s greatest allie.

Posted by: Robert Mauney | April 14, 2007, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Unreal – To say the Duke players are more privileged than the Rutgers girls players shows his ignorance and ‘racial profiling’. Just because 9 or the 10 women were african american he is assuming they are less affluent. Well played Terry Moron!
Let’s be clear here folks, this guy is not a reporter – he is a hack blogger! One of 10 million other no ones trying to get their name out there. I am just sorry the drudge would put this garbage on their site.

Posted by: tim | April 14, 2007, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Such holier than thou Right Wingers, until it involves their own; or what they perceive to be their own.
These boys are an abomination, their behavior is immoral. If this is how college age Frat boys act and conduct their parties then perhaps we better start raiding every Frathouse across America.
Where are these boy’s mothers for the love of God?

Posted by: Maria | April 14, 2007, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

OK…I came into these posts late,and I’m not going to read all of the diatribe posted. I just want to add my two cents.
First: Rich kids? I’m guessing not real rich. Take a look at the pictures of the dump they were living in. “Residence of rich kids” is not the first thought that comes to mind.
Second: As a recovering journalist (15 years in the business; 10 of them at a Top 15 newspaper), I can state for a fact that pretty much the only thing any media outlet cares about is selling product. Informing the public comes in a distant second. This story sold. A whole lot of print advertising and TV ad time was bought based on the eyeballs of America tuning into this story. (Which, I might add, does, indeed, reflect badly on most of the American public.)
That’s all.

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2007, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

You are living evidence that, despite its pretensions, the mainstream media is hopelessly liberal and biased. Your comment that the lacrosse players asked for one white stripper was the tipoff. If they had asked for all black strippers, you would have implied they were racists. If they had asked for all white strippers, they would have been painted as racists. If they had asked that at least one stripper be black, that would have been a sign of racism. Ah the subtle ways you paint the news in your own preconceptions. Increasingly, and this may be wishful thinking, you are an anachronism. In any case, I will do my part for anachronism impetus. As someone who has somewhat reluctantly remained with Gibson for years, it will now change to the Gibson on Fox. It should not come as an epiphany, but this was an in-my-face exhibit of just how liberal and biased the infrastructure of big media news remains. No more America. Turn off ABC. And Terry, confirm my suspicions and censor this.

Posted by: Bob Bell | April 14, 2007, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

How can you guys condone this behavior, this “Scores mentality” paying for Table and pole dners, stripers and whores by the future leaders of America?
This seems right to you? This “Howard Stern read” on being a Frat Boy is apropos for our sons?

Posted by: Maria | April 14, 2007, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Wow! To link the Dukies to the Rutgers girls basketball team is like building a bridge over the Atlantic. Dare I say this is racile hatred fomentation. It seems since the Dukies did not get the brand of justice that you, Terry Moran, deem proper, then “I, Terry, say off with their heads”
It’s just absurd, as is your brand of journalism.

Posted by: Alan | April 14, 2007, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

You have to feel a lot worse for the the Duke guys then the basketball team. Nothing was done to the bb team where as these guys were found guilty last year by trouble makers like Jesse Jackson and others. Its very sad the double standard in this country, if you are white you are always guilty of something if you are a minority you are a victim of the evil white man.

Posted by: notalib | April 14, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

“If we are a christian country, how can we accept false witness? It is true, Imus slandered the Rutgers players. The Duke players were falsely accused of a crime and faced possible prison time. Not much of a comparison.”
How about as a Christian country we do not condone Frat parties with pole dancing strippers as the entertainment for starters?

Posted by: Maria | April 14, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Wow. Tell me this, Terry. If there are so few cases on which prosecutorial misconduct is reported, why, then, did the media make such a big deal about this particular case? Oh, I’ll take “Blatantly Obvious Reasons for $2000, Alex”. Let’s hear it or the Fear Brigade. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson start fluffing their feathers and the PC Police take over. It is amazing how people cow down to these two idiots.
You know, maybe I should have said I was raped when I was trying to go to school so I could have gotten a free education from the Rainbow/Push Coallition. Let’s ask another question… What happens with the scholarship now? Is she going to have to pay that back now that she was a liar? Let’s remember that we are all innocent until proven guilty by the media. No, wait a minute. That’s not right. We are innocent until Al Sharpton judges us. No, that’s not it either. How does it go again? Oh yeah. Now I remember. We are innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers. Well, let me tell you this. If Terry Moran, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are our peers we are in some serious trouble.

Posted by: MGM | April 14, 2007, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Terry, even if these young men showed poor judgment by hiring strippers, these men were not presumed innocent by anyone. In the media’s eyes they were all guilty from day one. You know why you don’t feel bad, it was one heck of a story for you and ABC News. Go back to just the facts, oh and you might want to stop blogging.

Posted by: Garrett | April 14, 2007, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Hey tw – you went to Duke?? Yeah right! I thought Duke had higher standards! Learn how to spell! Eg. “This is a messed up system that favors there wealth.” The correct way to spell “there” is THEIR

Posted by: duh | April 14, 2007, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

And you call yourself a reporter?
Maybe you should switch career and work as Op-Ed column writer or news commentator.

Posted by: Harshad | April 14, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

“Are you sure you didn’t misspell your name – Terry Moron seems more apropos.”
Sorry, I am a real estate broker in Manhattan, not Terry Moran. I am closer in age to his brother Rick than him.
And you obviously know I am correct about the pole dancing whore mongering that goes on across our country in frat house daily.
Can’t debate that, can you? Perhaps you have a ringside table over at Scores, or wish you did?

Posted by: Maria | April 14, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

I never felt sorry for these guys at all. Seems like all these people had a part to play in this ridiculous story. A bunch of trust fund jerks and a desperate stripper. What a joke.
This was never even that interesting or significant a story to begin with. It’s amazing what makes news in the United States, even with that little war going on in Iraq.

Posted by: Joe | April 14, 2007, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

What you say is, in my opinion, totally true and well put. It also mirrors my own thoughts.
These men, while perhaps not guilty of the charges, misbehaved badly. They were vicious and cruel and they are not to be pitied or honored.
They degraded women whether they raped anyone or not. They are not anyone to be admired or for whom to feel sorry.

Posted by: Susanna K. Hutcheson | April 14, 2007, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Maria,
Stop condeming people who go to strip clubs. Otherwise, you make me believe that you would condemn our greatest president, Bill Clinton, for having affairs with 21-yr-old interns and condemn Jesse Jackson for having affairs.
Are you that narrow-minded, Maria?

Posted by: XYZ | April 14, 2007, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

I was very dissappointed that Michelle Malkin did not condemn the behavior of these boys.
They are no different than the rappers.

Posted by: Maria | April 14, 2007, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

I sincerely wish this reporter was unique. I am afraid his thinking is very mainstream in today’s media. I am sure Terry has personal knowledge that all three of the rich white boys have posters of Rove in their bedrooms and as such must be guilty of something. Well, Terry, compared to most of the rubes who are sujected to your tripe, you are RICH! What are you guilty of?

Posted by: Bob | April 14, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

FOR ALL OF YOU THAT TALK ABOUT THESE PLAYERS MAY I ASK:
WHAT ABOUT SLICK WILLY CLINTON AND O.J. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OUR PROBLEM IS WITH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND OUR LEGISLATURE THAT MAKE THE LAWS THAT PUT THE POOR AT RISK. WE NEED LAWS THAT PROTECT US FROM OUR LAW MAKERS.

Posted by: CSPowell | April 14, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

“In the media’s eyes they were all guilty from day one. You know why you don’t feel bad, it was one heck of a story for you.”
I couldn’t agree more. The media will convict you even after the trial. I should know.
Now please buy my book, “If I Did It.”

Posted by: OJ Simpson | April 14, 2007, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Wow, Terry, although I couldn’t disagree with you more, I love it when you post something like this; it helps to show the world a clear, clean picture of the face of media bias in America today.
Juicy headlines like, “Rich, Duke White Boys Rape and call a black striper names”, don’t come around every day.
This story only had legs because Nifong knew the media would run with it and as a result he could gain maximum exposure in a tight election year.
Shame on you, Terry Moran.

Posted by: mikeyboy | April 14, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Classic liberal rubbish.
“I hope we all keep him and others in mind, as we cover the celebrated exoneration of well-heeled, well-connected, well-publicized young men whose conduct, while not illegal, was not entirely admirable, either.”
Well publicized because the liberal Nifong played the race card, and the liberal professors and administration of Duke bought it; along with all the pimps of victimology.
Moran is a Moron. These boys received this horrendous treatment precisely because they are white and affluent.

Posted by: John Galt | April 14, 2007, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Oh that pesky legal system, the one that vindicated the Duke Lacrosse Players. But never fear, Judge Moran is here. In his “court” it is a crime to be born into privilege, the punishment being a lifetime of journalistic discrimination.

Posted by: J Phillips | April 14, 2007, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

No matter what color these guys are they were screwed to the wall. DNA evidence was not presented to the DA that would have probably caused the case to be dropped a long time ago. Of course, as the writer says, their behavior was “admirable”. I would, however, that Terry Moran’s behavior was at times in his youth, not admirable as well.
As far as the strippers go, when you choose to do denigrating work, what happens? You get denigrated.
Lastly, I can say that I do not feel sorry for the accuser. She had multiple men’s DNA in her. None of it belonged to the accused.

Posted by: Dave Collins | April 14, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Really? Well I guess because there are so many people murdered out there we shouldn’t feel sorry for those rich people who are murdered. You are a fool, but I am not sure you will ever realize that. You’re well off…what if it was you or maybe your son?

Posted by: Brent | April 14, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

I would request a white stripper to. Who wants to look at ugly niggers!!!!!

Posted by: john p. george | April 14, 2007, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

I do not feel sorry for these losers at all.
You play, you will pay, sooner or later.
I work for a large well known brokerage firm here in Manhattan and one of my colleagues, a very successful associate broker, was arrested for picking up a dancer at one of these clubs and then holding her hostage in his townhouse over a weekend.
Of course he was arrested and then was furious that his wife and daughter found out. He thought it was everyone’s fault but his.
Again, you play and get stuck on stupid, you pay.

Posted by: Maria | April 14, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

You are one sick human being.

Posted by: Alexandra Konstantinos | April 14, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Look at the Kennedy’s drownings and rapes haven’t slowed them down.

Posted by: Ted | April 14, 2007, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

I’ve been reading Maria’s comments. Maria: if you have a husband or son(s), I bet that they have both seen strippers at one time or another.

Posted by: Dave Collins | April 14, 2007, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Moran, you are one sick human being.

Posted by: Alexandra Konstantinos | April 14, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Yeah! Its karma! The White man has been bashing, and abusing the Black man for years! Its time for Karma to come around and smite the White man and Black man be on top for a while.
You know Charles Manson has this idea that the white man has abused the black man so much that its time for karma to come around and for the black man to be on top. Infact Charles Manson went as far as to put more value in an animals life than a humans.
Strange how history keeps repeating it self.

Posted by: Helter Skelter | April 14, 2007, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Your column reminds me of an old SNL skit……….”Jane (Terry) you ignorant slut”.
You excuse an egregious abuse of the legal system because the defendants can afford a legal defense equal to what the government can mount. It is a shame you seek a life in media when you look at a miscarriage of justice and prejudge it by how much financial success the victim has achieved.
When you judge the worthiness of a man by such shallow measures you reveal your own shallow thinking.
ABC should do better and so should you.

Posted by: gbowar | April 14, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Yes, the names of these men were trashed all over the media, but most people forgot their names a long time ago. Most of us don’t have anything against them, regardless of money/race/behavior. The only thing regarding this whole situation that should still be in the press is the actions/words of the Sharptons/Jacksons/etc that condemned these athletes/coaches/school officials at the very beginning. One previous post was very correct in saying these guys quickly faded into the background when the facts came out. I wish these overzealous figureheads would be held accountable at some point in their lives but I’m sure that won’t happen.
For the rest of you, this author just hit the jackpot with this article whether you realize it or not. The more everyone posts, the better he did his job in grabbing attention to this website. Authors don’t always write what they believe, but rather what will sell. Keep that in mind.

Posted by: C-Bird | April 14, 2007, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

What a bunch of tripe! And this guy Moran thinks he is a fair journalist!
I guess he really believes that there just HAS to be SOMETHING sinister about these young fellows. They can’t get off that easy in his opinion.
Moran is the odd ball. A real horse’s ass!

Posted by: Gary Glass | April 14, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

HOW INSENSATIVE! I demand Terry Morans imediate termination!

Posted by: Waldo | April 14, 2007, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Riddle me this, why do you suppose this story got so blown out of proportion to begin with?
Could it be because the media was quick to judge these kids and sensationalize a rape case involving 3 white priveledged college kids accused of raping a black stripper. It just made for too good of a story to pass up. I believe the media made this a racial story from the very beginning. I also remember plenty of coverage for Al Sharpton’s instigating, inflammatory, and divisive remarks. When will he apologize? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Probably just as soon as he apologizes for his participation in the Tawana B. incident. I’d demand his resignation but that’s an impossibility for someone who’s never had a job.
You sycophants in the media jumped all over this story and hyped it into the nightmare it became for these kids and now that it is obvious that you were premature in your judgment you don’t even have the decency to let it be. You continue to try to spin the story. Very, very, pathetic.

Posted by: Mike | April 14, 2007, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Another example of the liberal drive by media… Don’t feel sorry for people falsely accused of a crime because it doesn’t fit your silly template.

Posted by: Max Leo | April 14, 2007, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Another example of the liberal drive by media… Don’t feel sorry for people falsely accused of a crime because it doesn’t fit your silly template.

Posted by: Max Leo | April 14, 2007, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Moran is running for Pope? STFU and report the news, u liberal shill. Strippers are legal, parties are fun, and private speech is protected except in your PC world. Those kids got off because of million dollar legal fees and are harmed more than the Rutgers basketball tam, but i bet you feel sorry for them

Posted by: kelley | April 14, 2007, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

Lets see what lesson do I see in all this? Its simply that if I don’t want to put up with unpleasant things like vengefull strippers, out of line prosecutors, and circus like media attention, then I might want to consider one of the first laws of the street and “Watch my mouth”. If I hire somebody to do a job for me and treat them with dignity and respect (they could have rented a Walt Disney movie) then maybe I’ll be less likely to get myself in these situations. The men hired an erotic dancer not a racial doormat. Watch your mouth pal.

Posted by: Joe | April 14, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Does this twit write his own stuff?

Posted by: Oddlot99 | April 14, 2007, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

What are the qualifications to become a network news reporter these days? An associates degree from the Columbia School of blow-dry TV Journalism? I’ve never encountered such shallow and risible analysis in a very long time. This is just plain embarrasing.

Posted by: Greg | April 14, 2007, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

Dear Mr. Moron:
You are a reporter! Your job is to report the news, not spew your own biased personal world-views to those who turn to ABC News for honest reporting.
This is the problem with journalism today. The reporters become so arrogant they start believing we care about their own beliefs.
I will never again be able to look to Terry Moron as a honest reporter of factual, unbiased news.

Posted by: cameron | April 14, 2007, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Terry…you and the left-leaning media beat the drums of racial divisiveness loudly when the case first hit, no doubt because of the class/race aspects. Now, having been proven to be 100% crap, you’re using the same twisted logic to continue the suffering of the wrongly accused. Your way of thinking is repulsive, idiotic and scary.

Posted by: Dale | April 14, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Just the 1st attempt by the media to circle the wagons. The Duke case has made many – including Mr. Moran look like fools.

Posted by: Eric | April 14, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Actually David your own blog makes the point that there will always be people like you who basically have a bios towards them because of this incident. You are great example of having negative opinion of them because of this false prosecution and you wrote a whole blog entry about it. Sorry I do feel bad for them and your blog entry is a good example of why.

Posted by: Jan | April 14, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

I don’t know why these guys are said to be privileged? It is not a privilege when a child has the care of his or her parents. And it is not a privilege when such parents go out and make money (possibly with the thought of helping their children through adverse circumstances one day).
When you make money you are offering society more than it could get without what you have to offer. You are helping society. And if you then save, you may become rich, which for society is better than if you spent it all.

Posted by: A. Machado | April 14, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Were these that were cleared of all charges, more or less guilty than any other players on the team. The ones that did not have to endure their names and reputation destroyed. They should be compensated. Somebody or somebodies should lose their tenure due to faculty actions.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Were these that were cleared of all charges, more or less guilty than any other players on the team. The ones that did not have to endure their names and reputation destroyed. They should be compensated. Somebody or somebodies should lose their tenure due to faculty actions.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Were these that were cleared of all charges, more or less guilty than any other players on the team. The ones that did not have to endure their names and reputation destroyed. They should be compensated. Somebody or somebodies should lose their tenure due to faculty actions.

Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2007, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

THANK YOU TERRY MORAN. Thank you for restoring my faith in America and Americans. I often find myself worried with the direction that we are headed as a country. I often feel that we have lost our moral compass and are headed for disaster.
THANK YOU TERRY MORAN. You have helped me regain my faith and confidence in our country. We have not lost our soul or our moral compass. Through your blog you have unwittingly conducted an unscientific poll of our people. The results are in. In overwhelming numbers they do not agree with your worldview or the worldview the mainstream media attempts to project. They reject your social views.
THANK YOU TERRY MORAN. Thank you for restoring my faith in the silent majority of real Americans.

Posted by: Jeff Howard | April 14, 2007, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Wow,
When I was in college, I was a member of a blue collar frat. We were all engineers or business majors. Most of us seem to be doing ok now.
It seems to me that there were a few strippers brought in, but I really can not remember — I was probably too drunk. Sleeping it off on a couch.
Some of this stuff was a right of passage. I guess in today’s society it is a no-no to hire an independent contractor to provide entertainment.
I am glad I grew up in the time of the bottom less beer cup for $1.00 provided at the student union with the university’s blessing and permission. You get all of the sillyness out of a young person’s system and go out in the world and make a living.

Posted by: Rick | April 14, 2007, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Ya know, if they were cads enough to hire strippers, I don’t feel too sorry for them either. But there definitely wasn’t a case against them. I don’t feel terribly sorry for the strippers either. I also think the prosecutor was screwy and should be prosecuted himself. No one involved should be made a hero for any reason, they were all shady characters trying to exploit others in one way or another. It’s like drug users (yes, I think porn and stripping is as bad as dealing drugs) who get in fights, and one gets hurt — that doesn’t make the one hurt an ‘unwilling’ victim or purer than the wind-driven snow or anything.
I just hope the boys learned their lessons about dancing with the devil and having a great big price, far more than they wanted to pay, exacted for such a bargain. That is ALWAYS what happens when you dally with sinful behavior. It shouldn’t shock them at all.

Posted by: PJ | April 14, 2007, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

I hope your much more sensible brother in Chicago slaps some sense into you, Terry.
Or maybe somebody looking for attention can level a fraudulent rape charge against you, causing you to lose your livlihood.

Posted by: Brandon | April 14, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Actually Terry your own blog makes the point that there will always be people like you who basically have a bias towards them because of this incident. You are great example of having negative opinion of them because of this false prosecution and you wrote a whole blog entry to say it. Sorry I DO feel bad for them and your blog entry is a good example of why.

Posted by: Jan | April 14, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Mr. Moran,
“The three young men who she accused are truly innocent” is the only fact you got correct in your story. The rest is purely your own biased opinion on how people should think about them. You seemed obsessed with the amount of money the parents of the young men have. What does that have to do with this case? They should never have been charged in the first place…another fact the NC Attorney General stated. Because of a rush to judgement by many Duke professors, black civil rights “leaders” making threats and the media leading the race-baiting, add to the mix, a lying, deceiving DA running for reelection, how much money were the “rich” parents forced to spend to defend their “innocent until proven guilty” sons? The DA never had any evidence against them. Whether it be this case or any other subject, I find you continually infusing race and class into almost every story. Just stick to the facts, man.

Posted by: Mary | April 14, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Terry, Your big problem is that you just are not intelligent enough to be in prime time. I have believed this since watching your performances at presidential news conferences. ( Brit Hume, in his news specials, has pointed out just how silly you can be.) If I ever needed confirmation of my belief, this “idiot essay” of yours is just perfect. Your “logic” on this matter is just too tangled for any bright person to take seriously. To believe ABC ever considered you as its news anchor is bizarre. I’d advise you to always keep in mind what an incredible over-achiever you are in contrast with your journalistic colleagues. I object to many of them but I still can say that their intelligence is not the problem–as an example, I’d offer the objectionable David Gregory. When he walks into a press conference, he seems to not realize that there are other reporters there waiting to ask questions. Beyond rude but not a matter of intelligence. Sorry, I”m being a bit rude here myself but you just need some perspective to censor yourself when your productions are headed to such heights of absurdity as here.

Posted by: Arnold | April 14, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

I completely agree with you.

Posted by: JV | April 14, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

I completely agree with you.

Posted by: JV | April 14, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

This article is ludicrous. Basically, because they are college students who didn’t show good judgement they deserved a little of what they got????? Then lock away most of us who ever went to college. A white request a white stripper. Umm, yea, so? What is the problem with that?
Because they come from wealthy families they deserve a little of what they got???? This is a typical liberal take: don’t feel bad for the rich because they have money.
This article is just plain wrong. The article that should be written should be calling for the Black Panthers and Al Sharpton to apologize and or be sued for slander. What Sharpton said and did to these boys was a lot worse than what Imus said. Where is that outrage?

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

I completely agree with you.

Posted by: JV | April 14, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

I completely agree with you.

Posted by: JV | April 14, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

This article is ludicrous. Basically, because they are college students who didn’t show good judgement they deserved a little of what they got????? Then lock away most of us who ever went to college. A white request a white stripper. Umm, yea, so? What is the problem with that?
Because they come from wealthy families they deserve a little of what they got???? This is a typical liberal take: don’t feel bad for the rich because they have money.
This article is just plain wrong. The article that should be written should be calling for the Black Panthers and Al Sharpton to apologize and or be sued for slander. What Sharpton said and did to these boys was a lot worse than what Imus said. Where is that outrage?

Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Terry, Your big problem is that you just are not intelligent enough to be in prime time. I have believed this since watching your performances at presidential news conferences. ( Brit Hume, in his news specials, has pointed out just how silly you can be.) If I ever needed confirmation of my belief, this “idiot essay” of yours is just perfect. Your “logic” on this matter is just too tangled for any bright person to take seriously. To believe ABC ever considered you as its news anchor is bizarre. I’d advise you to always keep in mind what an incredible over-achiever you are in contrast with your journalistic colleagues. I object to many of them but I still can say that their intelligence is not the problem–as an example, I’d offer the objectionable David Gregory. When he walks into a press conference, he seems to not realize that there are other reporters there waiting to ask questions. Beyond rude but not a matter of intelligence. Sorry, I”m being a bit rude here myself but you just need some perspective to censor yourself when your productions are headed to such heights of absurdity as here.

Posted by: Arnold | April 14, 2007, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

You are an ass. How dare you try and disperage these kids, regardless of their race or upbringing. The legally did what our country offered them. They hired a stripper. If it offends your morals that they hired a stripper, you have half a country to go after, both black and white that have done that before. Not just these kids. They legally hired, and watched a stripper. What they didn’t do was rape a stripper. The stripper falsely accused them because of people like you who run to judgments with a liberal agenda without getting the facts. This woman saw dollar signs, knowing full well the media attention she would get from such charges. She even had a compliant prosecutor. Luckily, the young men did have the resources to defend themselves. Imagine if she had pulled this at a D-III basketball team in the middle of Mississippi? I believe those kids would have been railroaded, just like the Dukies, but without the vigorous defense. And they would be in jail because of liberal saps like you swaying opinion, and forgetting that facts are what you need to report. Complete BS you wrote. Never will I watch ABCNews again!

Posted by: Robert Melrose | April 14, 2007, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

I’m all for this reporter doing 20 at a SuperMax. and you can write all the garbage about other people from there you want..Terry
ps. I’m sure you’ll drop the soap on purpose.

Posted by: Rubin | April 14, 2007, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

“Two wrongs don’t make a right”. You were wrong when you hung the young men before the jury was even selected. And your wrong now trying to justify your mistake. The only guilty party is the girl. And for the sake of future rape victims who don’t want to be outed she should be prosecuted.
OS3

Posted by: Olivestreet | April 14, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

I’m all for this reporter doing 20 at a SuperMax. and you can write all the garbage about other people from there you want..Terry
ps. I’m sure you’ll drop the soap on purpose.

Posted by: Rubin | April 14, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

The big problem is: will Terry even bother to read the postings that must be running 99 to 1 against him and his lousy article.
See, the problem with these types is that simply feel they ‘know better’ than other people. It is likely he smugly feels these postings are from the red states -not us sophisticated ‘see both sides’ litterati that have a more nuanced view.
In other words the more we complain the more this arrogant twit feels he ‘understands the issue’ at a deeper level. And thinks condescending thoughts about the postings.
Honestly some day I think one can only reason with these guys using a baseball bat!

Posted by: Mike | April 14, 2007, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Exactly Right!!! Remember half the staff of Duke, including professors, petitioned against three, without regard to the trial outcome. This dimissal is a leap backwards for civil rights. Fortunately news organizations and reporters like ABC Terry Moran and CNN’s Michael Ware will hang these three in the court of public opinion and hang them high!!!

Posted by: chobbes | April 14, 2007, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

This blog entry is truly abhorent! Using the logic of this entry by Terry we should at the scene of a fatal car accident temper our sympathies depending on the income level of the affected family! Unbelievable!! How absolutely immoral can Terry get? I hope America never sinks to that level.

Posted by: Donald DuBois | April 14, 2007, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Who here has been raped or buggered by Mr. Moran?
Don’t be afraid to speak up. And don’t worry about making false and defamatory statements about him. After all, he’s privileged.

Posted by: Cristine | April 14, 2007, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Interesting how not one of these Right Wing loons want to address the fact that their sons are paying for strippers to spice up Frat lfe.
Unbelievable. They just want to attack the author.
How sick have we become?

Posted by: Samantha Robbins | April 14, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

On your point of “many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year.”
Yes, that’s true. I know of a case in Lafayette County, Arkansas where the Judge is protecting the County Assessor’s binge drinking son from being penalized for sexually abusing his own daughter by not allowing evidence from child therapists, psychologists and other school officials. The Assessor trys to accuse the little girl’s mother of trying to get even for being wife-beaten and divorcing her son – ignoring their granddaughter is being abused even while in their care. This is after the judge protected the assessor’s husband from similar conduct. You are right, there is misconduct and no avenue to correct it. The local attorneys know about it but they have to face the judge to make their living. It all makes me sick to see Judges get away with protecting their coworkers at the expense of a little girl’s future.

Posted by: Croisan | April 14, 2007, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
This is the United States of America.
Mr. Moran, you and most of the media elites rushed to proclaim innocent men guilty. Now, after your mistake should have embarassed you and the rest of the elites, you want to blame “us” and say, Nevermind.
Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Unless, you’re a media elite. Then, guilty until you prove yourself innocent.

Posted by: Linda | April 14, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Clearly we can’t let them have a pass for being well-to-do and coming from the upper class. Certainly ABC’s audience will appreciate this particular slant.

Posted by: Jane | April 14, 2007, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Journalists who write such stuff cause people with at least half-a-brain to lose respect for journalists. It’s more like typists masquerading as journalists.
College kids do stupid things. Drunk college kids do even stupider things, but to put them through what this “minority” did is a travesty.
Does this whazisname typist reside in the real world?
codom19@comcast.net

Posted by: 33gramps | April 14, 2007, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

This has to be the most twisted column I have read in a long time. Are you really saying that because other people have been victims of prosecutorial misconduct we should not sympathize with these players? Fact is, other than Scooter Libby, I don’t really know the names of too many others, probably because the media and the DA didn’t brand them as criminals before a national audience before charges were even filed, before evidence was tested, before the so-called victim was interviewed. Talk about blame the victim, but I suppose white men can’t be victims.
Hmmm, they hired a stripper so they somehow deserve being falsely accused of rape. Hmmm they requested a white stripper so that somehow makes them bad people. If I were to ever request a stripper, you better believe I would want him to have certain features. They hurled racial epithets…did they say ho too? Are these the same epithets that Kim called 911 about, the likely made-up ones that set the stage for a rape allegation? Once again you and the media are playing the race card when it doesn’t exist. Racism has absolutely nothing to do with rape. If all you can point to is their language, preferences in strippers, and boyfights to somehow say we shouldn’t feel sorry for Reade, Collin and David then you are stretching logic far beyond any bounds I have ever heard. As a black woman I felt sorry for them from day one and I feel ashamed and saddened that this is yet another incident that cheapens the cries of REAL rape victims and REAL racism victims.

Posted by: cassie | April 14, 2007, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Clearly we can’t let them have a pass for being well-to-do and coming from the upper class. Certainly ABC’s audience will appreciate this particular slant.

Posted by: Jane | April 14, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

“Who here has been raped or buggered by Mr. Moran?”
Spoken like a true rapist.

Posted by: Bill | April 14, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Since the Duke players could afford good lawyers, and many others could not, why not just blame the lawyers who get paid to much money? They only went to school for 8 or more years, but why not cap their earnings so everyone can afford good representation. Better yet, why don’t we take all of the banana peel sliping liberal lawyers like John Edwards away from tort law and frivolous cases and have them give up “their” money and defend people who cannot afford better lawyers. I guess you wrote the same type of pieces for the Kennedy rapist and murderer. I’m far from wealthy, but I do believe in the “American Dream”, but people like this just love to bash people who achieve. They want everyone to pay for others better lives instead of asking them to strive for more. Manditory watching for ALL liberals and free loaders should be “Pursuit of Happiness”, and the message: work hard, take interest in your family, and don’t blame the man and make excuses for not going further in life.
Blame everyone but never blame the guy in the mirror is the liberal motto. Our country is falling one brick at a time thanks to enablers like Mr. Moran.

Posted by: jb | April 14, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

This is obscene. This racist pig should clearly be fired for his sexist, racist, classist comments. Another America hating extremist swept from the airwaves.

Posted by: Ben | April 14, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

I think I get it… if you’re rich and white you can’t order a stripper for entertainment, but if you’re poor and black you can dance naked for rich white men..makes sense to me..

Posted by: james | April 14, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

“…but I suppose white men can’t be victims.”
Oh please another white man who thinks he’s a victim. Get over it, you are in the most protected class in America.
Sorry, as a white woman, I have no pity…LOL

Posted by: Sandra | April 14, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

First Mr. Nifong, then Mr. Jackson, Mr. Sharpton, the Duke faculty and now Mr. Moron. Is there no escape from being white and having wealthy parents in this country?

Posted by: Brian | April 14, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

Terry,
Your an idiot.

Posted by: Scott | April 14, 2007, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

“This is obscene. This racist pig should clearly be fired for his sexist, racist, classist comments. Another America hating extremist swept from the airwaves.”
Not to worry, after The Fairness Doctrine is reinstated FatAss Limbaugh will be gone…LOL.
His days on the air are numbered, no need to worry, him, Beck, Savage, all those, you know, “persecuted white men” will be off the air. LOL

Posted by: Sandra | April 14, 2007, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Terry,
These kids did not deserve a crazy prosecutor and their families have spent tens of thousands of dollars on them thet was unnecessary because of an checked cowboy prosecutor. Strip parties are a common thing on college campuses and $800 is not above average to throw such parties. They did not deserve the rush to judgement by the tenured professors and the likes of Sharpton and Jackson. I hope the professors will have to pay for their rush to judgement Sharpton and Jackson have a free ride. You obviously don’t have college age children but if this happend to you you would be singing a completely new tune.
These kids may be affluent remember those in that bracket pay most of the taxes and welfare for the people like the woman accuser. I would like to see them sue Nifong, Duke and the Professors involved in the letter writing campaign.
Yeah we are affluent but dont desreve a false accuser, crazy civil right nuts, liberal professors rusung to jugdgement and an un appreciative under class of writers that live off our subsidation of their taxes bitching

Posted by: Rick Bendinger | April 14, 2007, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

If it had been three black college students so obviously wrongly accused of this crime and in the same situation, the black community would be rioted in the streets at this point. There is prejudice against white males in this country…especially any from an upper middle class family. Terry you have proven your lack of intelligence. Why don’t you pay back the millions of dollars these families had to pay in legal fees. Who can they sue for damages done? No one. The liar/accuser has nothing and the DA has nothing.
I am going to email any advertiser that supports ABC News and let them know I am going to boycott their products.

Posted by: penelope | April 14, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

They should have gotten her in a car and driven off of a bridge. The media would have quickly forgotten about the case. It worked for Teddy Kennedy.

Posted by: dpcclam | April 14, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Terry,
You’re a bigger dick than your picture indicates. Your holier than thou attitude and contempt for these three innocent men whose only “guilt” was that they have had a priviledge upbringing unlike yourself I find truly mindboggling, especially when it comes from the hypocritical mouth of someone whose bio reads as the following-
Terry Moran graduated from Lawrence University in 1982. Lawrence University, located in Appleton, Wisconsin, is a private liberal arts college founded in 1847.Tuition and room and board fees at Lawrence are far lower than at comparable schools (the comprehensive fee is $37,663, which is not much more than tuition alone at many similar schools).
So, let me get this straight Mr. people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, because they went to a school whose tuition cost over $35k/yr and acted like 20 year olds in college (which, of course you never did…oh no), they deserve to be falsely charged with raped, prosecuted in the media by an overzealous prosecutor, have their reputation destroyed, have their parents spend over $1M in legal fees, and have the entire lacrosse team suffer, all because, unlike you, oops again my bad, their parents have money and they went to a prestigious school? And, oh pious one, I’m sure your bias never, ever influenced your reporting. What a dick you are.

Posted by: kevin | April 14, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

“Strip parties are a common thing on college campuses and $800 is not above average to throw such parties.”
Listen to the insanity in that statement. You cannot be serious?

Posted by: Sandra | April 14, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Sir!
Please only report the news from now on and follow your chosen vocation. In the future, please do not venture into professional journalism, it may expose additional flaws in your character and may be detrimental to your livelihood.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Hey Samantha,
Since when is hiring a stripper a capital crime
or any kind of crime for that matter? Guess all you PC lefties never have seen a stripper,
right? Ever striped for your boyfriend? Madeout with your date? Naughty, naughty.
I see some jail time in your future. I though the left was oh so tolerent of every sort of behavior. Don’t know where I could have gotten that idea from. Guess this conservative is just too dumb to operate on your elevated intellectual plane.

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Hey, Samantha.
That happens at colleges all around the country, not just at “priveleged” schools and frat houses.
Moran deserved to be ridiculed. He has the right to his opinion, but all of us have the right to criticize it.
“How sick have we become?” Pretty sick when you can’t even express your opinion.

Posted by: TeeJay | April 14, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

I KNOW WHAT TERRY MEANS. I DON’T FEEL SORRY FOR BOB WOODRUFF WHO WAS WOUNDED BY MOTAR FIRE IN IRAQI LAST YEAR. HE GOT THE BEST MEDICAL ATTENTION POSSIBLE, HE WAS OUT OF WORK FOR 9 MONTHS BUT STILL KEPT HIS JOB AND GOT PAID. HE HAD HIS JOB WHEN HE GOT BETTER. WHY FEEL BAD?

Posted by: JIM MICHAELS | April 14, 2007, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Hey Samantha,
Since when is hiring a stripper a capital crime
or any kind of crime for that matter? Guess all you PC lefties never have seen a stripper,
right? Ever striped for your boyfriend? Madeout with your date? Naughty, naughty.
I see some jail time in your future. I though the left was oh so tolerent of every sort of behavior. Don’t know where I could have gotten that idea from. Guess this conservative is just too dumb to operate on your elevated intellectual plane.

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

“If it had been three black college students so obviously wrongly accused of this crime and in the same situation, the black community would be rioted in the streets at this point.”
If it had been 3 black boys or 3 white boys of no means they would still be in jail.

Posted by: Rachel | April 14, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Hey Samantha,
Since when is hiring a stripper a capital crime
or any kind of crime for that matter? Guess all you PC lefties never have seen a stripper,
right? Ever striped for your boyfriend? Madeout with your date? Naughty, naughty.
I see some jail time in your future. I though the left was oh so tolerent of every sort of behavior. Don’t know where I could have gotten that idea from. Guess this conservative is just too dumb to operate on your elevated intellectual plane.

Posted by: Ed | April 14, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

You are out of your damn mind.
These boys were 100% innocent. That doesn’t fit with your politically correct world. Live with it.

Posted by: Big Daddy | April 14, 2007, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Newer has such a valid been so stupidly made!!

Posted by: Brian Newton | April 14, 2007, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

So let me get this straight, it’s okay to falsely accuse someone of rape and railroad them toward a thirty year prison-term if they’re from a privileged family and they might be able to afford attorneys, but it is bad to utilize an offensive racial slur? Interesting value system.

Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2007, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

“How sick have we become?” Pretty sick when you can’t even express your opinion.”
So what is the difference between watching that fool Nelly swiping a credit card through some back chick’s butt in a video and these frat boys paying for a titty dancer to spice up college life?
So I guess it’s AOK if they are actually swiping that card through that dancer’s butt rather than watching it in a video?
Shameful behavior and your opinion is misguided, especially for a Right Wing loon.

Posted by: Samatha | April 14, 2007, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Talk about racial discrimination because these guys were white and came from good families!
Why can’t liberal columnist stop this black vs white and rich vs poor mentality? It does not matter WHO was wrongly accused, their color, or their lineage. It was a miscarriage of justice. Whoever brought about this miscarriage should pay.
Was what they did wrong? I don’t know if strippers are not legal in their state. It may be in bad taste, but I don’t think that it is illegal or that unless it is they deserve and punishment.
The only reason you DARE to write this editorial is because you know that revs Jesse or Al will not be leading a protest tomorrow in front of the office building you work in.
If this had been wrongly accused black men of a crime and you stated you did not feel sorry for them, you would not be welcome at work tomorrow and would either resign or be fired within the weak.

Posted by: ED in NY | April 14, 2007, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Hey dumbass!!! Did I not see you fondling a child? Oh I am sure of it. Next year maybe I will recant my story, but you are a reporter and rich so I am sure you will be ok. How can you be that dumb and have a job. Maybe that is why we should not feel sorry for you.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Terry, now we know why Duke rejected your application. Keep working on those essay skills

Posted by: Duke Admissions | April 14, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Talk about racial discrimination! Because these guys were white and came from good families you don’t have sympathy for them?
Why can’t liberal columnist stop this black vs white and rich vs poor mentality? It does not matter WHO was wrongly accused, their color, or their lineage. It was a miscarriage of justice. Whoever brought about this miscarriage should pay.
Was what they did wrong? I don’t know if strippers are not legal in their state. It may be in bad taste, but I don’t think that it is illegal or that unless it is they deserve and punishment.
The only reason you DARE to write this editorial is because you know that revs Jesse or Al will not be leading a protest tomorrow in front of the office building you work in.
If this had been wrongly accused black men of a crime and you stated you did not feel sorry for them, you would not be welcome at work tomorrow and would either resign or be fired within the week!

Posted by: ED in NY | April 14, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

You must understand: to a liberal a racial epithet is probably worse than rape.
Sure, three whites were wrongly accused of the second worst crime known to man, but Imus said “nappy”, so we can all slip back into our PC dreams, content that the white man is still the focus of evil in the modern world.

Posted by: MD | April 14, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Talk about racial discrimination! Because these guys were white and came from good families you don’t have sympathy for them?
Why can’t liberal columnist stop this black vs white and rich vs poor mentality? It does not matter WHO was wrongly accused, their color, or their lineage. It was a miscarriage of justice. Whoever brought about this miscarriage should pay.
Was what they did wrong? I don’t know if strippers are not legal in their state. It may be in bad taste, but I don’t think that it is illegal or that unless it is they deserve and punishment.
The only reason you DARE to write this editorial is because you know that revs Jesse or Al will not be leading a protest tomorrow in front of the office building you work in.
If this had been wrongly accused black men of a crime and you stated you did not feel sorry for them, you would not be welcome at work tomorrow and would either resign or be fired within the week!

Posted by: ED in NY | April 14, 2007, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

“I see some jail time in your future.”
I think you have me confused with Scooter Libby you crazy wingnut.
What a anomaly, a wingnut soothsayer, ain’t that again’ your Evangelical ways boy?

Posted by: Samatha | April 14, 2007, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Talk about racial discrimination! Because these guys were white and came from good families you don’t have sympathy for them?
Why can’t liberal columnist stop this black vs white and rich vs poor mentality? It does not matter WHO was wrongly accused, their color, or their lineage. It was a miscarriage of justice. Whoever brought about this miscarriage should pay.
Was what they did wrong? I don’t know if strippers are not legal in their state. It may be in bad taste, but I don’t think that it is illegal or that unless it is they deserve and punishment.
The only reason you DARE to write this editorial is because you know that revs Jesse or Al will not be leading a protest tomorrow in front of the office building you work in.
If this had been wrongly accused black men of a crime and you stated you did not feel sorry for them, you would not be welcome at work tomorrow and would either resign or be fired within the week!

Posted by: EDinNY | April 14, 2007, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Get ready for:
Universal Legal Defence
Don’t worry your government will
guarantee you a free fair trial.
Oh ****, I hope cHillary doesn’t
read this!!
oh and here take your food voucher!

Posted by: B4Berkley | April 14, 2007, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

hey Ed,
stop spamming the comments. LOL

Posted by: Samatha | April 14, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

mr moran
the only thing that had any worth at all was that they paid 800.00 dollars for stripers. heavy price other than that all you reported about was rich white kids ?. top school? misconduct the only thing worthwhile this looks like a hate piece because the kids family had some money..thank god they did

Posted by: joseph odonnell | April 14, 2007, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Good God Terry these comments are filled with trolls.
I guess they made one of their famous blue light special announcements over in that cestpool called Freeperville.

Posted by: Carl | April 14, 2007, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

You sight most of the press as giving them favorable coverage — HA! The only reason the press blasted this across the headlines in the first place is that they had these young men convicted at the point of accusation. Only after the truth started coming out, and the press was starting to feel exposed, did the tune change. Sure, you are right, there are a lot of injustices happening everyday that are never reported on. But don’t blame the common folk, we are not reporters.

Posted by: Clay Smith | April 14, 2007, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

So you are saying Duke is an elite school and Rutgers is not in the same class? Perhaps among these athletes are some on scholarship and some whose families sweat and tears paid their way. On both sides of that argument. Do not comapre the two fine schools without at least backing up this spurious comparision.

Posted by: RutgersFriend | April 14, 2007, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Typical response from ABC News. I didn’t expect anything more from the mainstream liberal media.
These men did not deserve to have their names drug through mud, because a Black stripper accussed them of rape. The racial undertones are appalling.
Where are the apologies from the Black community? I’m listening….

Posted by: vicki | April 14, 2007, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Terry, as a journalist you should be ashamed. The crux of the matter is that these young men did not do the crime they were accused of. Many times, innocent people are arrested because at the time of the arrest, all the KNOWN facts point to their PROBABLE guilt, otherwise known as probable cause. Probable cause does not mean “absolute knowledge of guilt”, but likely guilt. Hopefully, a more complete investigation will discover all the facts and the person will be released. In this case, the DA withheld important DNA information that should have raised doubts about the credibility of the accuser. In addition, the DA did not interview the accuser at all for six months after the charges were filed. Most DA’s want to interview the vicitm before the charges are filed to assess their credibility. And I believe the DA’s office determined how the photo line up was conducted, which limited the line up to those on the team. This meant, of course, that the vicitm could not pick out the wrong suspect no matter who she chose.
The fact that the team hired strippers is disgusting to me personally, but it is not illegal. Does hiring a stripper or going to a strip club mean you are fair game for a false accusation of rape?
It was only because these men had money and could hire good legal counsel that they were exonerated before the trial, and might have been wrongly convicted otherwise. You mention that the media only covered this case because of the players wealth. Well, then maybe the media ought to do more investigation of less high profile cases and find out how widespread this practice of deliberately witholding exculpatory evidence is in this country.

Posted by: Shelley DeMucha | April 14, 2007, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

this has to be one of the dumbest items i’ve ever seen in “mainstream” media. where is the uproar over these insensitive remarks?!?!??
let’s give him a name change to “terry moron”!

Posted by: tedr | April 14, 2007, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Terry, as a journalist you should be ashamed. The crux of the matter is that these young men did not do the crime they were accused of. Many times, innocent people are arrested because at the time of the arrest, all the KNOWN facts point to their PROBABLE guilt, otherwise known as probable cause. Probable cause does not mean “absolute knowledge of guilt”, but likely guilt. Hopefully, a more complete investigation will discover all the facts and the person will be released. In this case, the DA withheld important DNA information that should have raised doubts about the credibility of the accuser. In addition, the DA did not interview the accuser at all for six months after the charges were filed. Most DA’s want to interview the vicitm before the charges are filed to assess their credibility. And I believe the DA’s office determined how the photo line up was conducted, which limited the line up to those on the team. This meant, of course, that the vicitm could not pick out the wrong suspect no matter who she chose.
The fact that the team hired strippers is disgusting to me personally, but it is not illegal. Does hiring a stripper or going to a strip club mean you are fair game for a false accusation of rape?
It was only because these men had money and could hire good legal counsel that they were exonerated before the trial, and might have been wrongly convicted otherwise. You mention that the media only covered this case because of the players wealth. Well, then maybe the media ought to do more investigation of less high profile cases and find out how widespread this practice of deliberately witholding exculpatory evidence is in this country.

Posted by: Shelley DeMucha | April 14, 2007, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

I actually agree with Mr. Moran to some extent. These boys will suffer no real long-term consequences of this action. They may even become celebrities! Mr. Nifong should be sent to prison though. I can speak with expertise on this subject because I am a victim of prosecutorial misconduct. My entire life was destroyed, and my family and business were ruined and the prosecutor KNEW I was innocent! Yes, these things do happen in this country and the Press did not come to my aid as it should have. I am somewhat resentful that these guys received all this support while others deserving of such help are often hung out to dry! Mr. Moran and the Press should take a lesson and begin devoting more time and energy to their intended purpose, which is to serve as a watchdog over the actions of governmental officials!! By the way, I am white, and the people who did this to me were Democrats.

Posted by: ray | April 14, 2007, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

So, because these guys are white, go to a good school, and got drunk and stupid, or because “prosecutorial injustice happens frequently, screw the Dukies, eh? Little white snobs, they got a taste of what they deserve, eh?
Dang, no wonder folks are turning off the network news in droves…

Posted by: Mike W | April 14, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Silent Majority…Speak UP! See who advertises on Nightline and send hundres of emails in protest. Let’s get Terry fired for class slurs against wealthy white college boys. Email the advertisers.

Posted by: penelope | April 14, 2007, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

This column makes me physically ill. Because the Duke players are whites at an elite university, they are somehow worthy of petty scorn rather than sympathy? Myself, I would shake their hands and tell them how sorry I was that the judicial system f’ed up so badly, to their detriment.
ABC, I know you want to fire someone to catch up with (pms)NBC and CBS. Doing away with this idiot would be a start.

Posted by: Biff Ulysses Bifferton | April 14, 2007, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

I am sorry to see racists on this blog say that these Dukies got only what other ” black” men have gotten from rogue prosecutors…and therefore it was all ok! Well, these Dukies are individuals,regardless of their race, and aren’t individual rights more important than group rights? Other than having the wrong skin color how can these guys be made to pay the price of rogue prosecutors in America?

Posted by: NClement | April 14, 2007, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Is this article for real, or some kind of lame belated April Fool’s Day joke?
This joker Moran has no sympathy for three boys falsely accused of rape, because they had “access to resources that everyone doesn’t have.” Plus, even thought they were innocent of all the charges, they just weren’t nice people!
Somehow… if there were three black men falsely accused, and the NAACP provided them free legal expenses, then we could feel sorry for them. But not these white kids.
Because…. they’re white.

Posted by: Marty | April 14, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Some people have penned very eloquintly what i shall say very bluntly. God your an ass, Terry!!!

Posted by: steven smith | April 14, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Some people have penned very eloquintly what i shall say very bluntly. God your an ass, Terry!!!

Posted by: steven smith | April 14, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

You get paid to write such tripe? You all but say that no one should be allowed to defend themselves unless they are members of some supposedly oppressed minority. Personally I am sick of whining and lying by and on behalf of minorities. You bring up all sorts of extraneous bull and never bother to to mention the hypocritical condemnation of the young Duke men by Sharpton and Jackson. Sure the young men screwed up. Thank God I, and most of us, have not been charged with felonies over every idiotic thing we did when we were young. You should be working to correct the other wrongs you cite instead of minimizing the importance of this one. Yes, I am a Duke alumnus.

Posted by: Bob Manning | April 14, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

I see the media (you) are still trying to milk this Bull.
Maybe the public needs to focus on media BS rather than Nifong.

Posted by: David | April 14, 2007, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

You need an editor.
Moron is mispelled.

Posted by: Bob Manning | April 14, 2007, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

Wow. Terry Moran is an ass of the highest order.
While their behavior was not admirable (re: hiring strippers), it’s not illegal. What Nifong did was illegal. And being a rich, white guy is not illegal.
And why even mention the Rutgers University women’s basketball team?
These women were not damaged in any way – some dumbass just made a stupid remark about them. That’s it. They have suffered no damages and incurrred no legal fees. Their reputations were not damaged in any way.
The Duke guys were kicked off their sports team, thrown out of school, had their reputations completely destroyed, and spent months and thousands of dollars to fight totally bogus rape allegations.

Posted by: Paul G. | April 14, 2007, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

you must be kidding?! Because they could afford good lawyers, and other people get wrongly accused too, they will be ok and it is not a big deal. That is no justification, despite that no one, ridiculously righ, rich, middle class, poor or dirt poor, should ever be wrongly accused.

Posted by: paul | April 14, 2007, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Who cares if they’re rich? Who cares if they’re poor? That’s the most stupid argument I’ve ever heard.
What we have is a case of fraud. Fraud from the negroe stripper, fraud from Mike Nifong. Anyone can accuse anyone of anything. And that could be YOU. I don’t care how pure you are, it could happen to you at any time. Got it?
When you’re black in today’s environment you can say whatever you want and you’ll have the despicable liberal media, attorneys and power mongers stripping people of their existence.
Doesn’t matter if you’re rich, poor, middle class, red, black or purple. It is unacceptable to take such frivolity in the attempts to ruin ANYONES’lives.
Both the negroe stripper and Mike Nifong should be sued for everything they have and thrown in jail for life.
Making a mistake is one thing. A targeted campaign of lethal consequences on innocent people is another and that’s what Nifong and the stripper did. I hope they rot in hell.

Posted by: Planet of the | April 14, 2007, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

I will donate $18.24 to any individual who can prove that he/or she has read every damn message to get to this one.

Posted by: Cecil | April 14, 2007, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

It’s amusing to see the witty arguments people provide to justify their opinion -like “you’re an idiot”. I respect others to have differing opinions. But on my part, I thought this blog thought provoking, and while I wouldn’t wish anyone to go through the nightmare of false accusation, let’s face it, these boys aren’t angels either. Nor do I buy the “boys will be boys” argument.
Many are probably not aware, but one of the evidence taken from an email of one of the Duke Lacross students stated the following “…I plan on killing the b**** (strippers) as soon as they walk in and proceed to cut off their skin while cumming in my Duke Issue spandex…”
Still think boys should be boys?
The point some people seem to be forgetting is that there are many more incidents of minorities falsely accused but somehow there isn’t a similar outrage on their behalf. These Duke boys will survive, and flourish make no mistake. Regardless of one of them losing a Wall St job, another one will come along the way. They are fortunate to have easy social acceptance and a big name school behind them.

Posted by: Emma | April 15, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

We should all be alarmed when ever and where ever there is a miscarriage of justice. We should all have sympathy for the victims of a miscarriage of justice no matter if the are black or white, rich or poor because it is society as a whole that suffers and our rights as a society that are violated. Feel sorry for them…YES. Feel sorry for the black man unjustly in prison…YES! The Journalist who wrote the article is a hate monger and narrow minded bigot more concerned about his social dogma than civil liberties. He, like Imus, like Nifong should lose his job too. That would not be censoring his speach since he would be free to spew his hate any time he pleased. That would be responsible jounalism.

Posted by: G. Engel | April 15, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Terry you deserve to be wrongly accused of a felony you never committed. One thing for sure accusing you of writing a horrible piece that makes no valid points and misses the big picture is something you are guilty of.

Posted by: Gianna | April 15, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Hey Sammy,
Is a coherent thought above your paygrade?
Ed

Posted by: Ed Jarolin | April 15, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Prosecutorial misconduct and journalistic hubris. What a combination!

Posted by: jeadelie | April 15, 2007, 12:02 am 12:02 am

I wonder what the writer of this article did in college. How hmmmmmm I think he participated in the elephant walk. Or maybe he had several nights of binge drinking and drug use, let’s dig up his past and find out how hypocritical he is. In addition, yeah…let’s play the race card and social class card once again. Is there any time in any argument where any minority group brings up race and social class cards. BTW I’m asian, we tend to assimilate to the rest of American culture not try to divide it. Also, I take offense to the NAACP, they do not represent all colored people and I wish they remove the fact that they represent Asian interests when there are no pictures of any minority groups other than blacks. I just dont get this whole double standard. Let me think about it, I want to create The Twinkie Society established for Anglos and Asians to be properly protected against the double standard.

Posted by: TNN | April 15, 2007, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Hey Sammy,
Is a coherent thought above your paygrade?
Ed

Posted by: Ed Jarolin | April 15, 2007, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Sandra,
I am serious. Many of the fraternities at a SE Alabama college use the internet sites from Atlanta and get 1-2strippers from Atlanta a few hours away for 5-800 dollars. You can actually look on their internet site and pick them out. They are glad to get the money and damn sure don’t holler rape after the party

Posted by: Rick Bendinger | April 15, 2007, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Sandra,
I am serious. Many of the fraternities at a SE Alabama college use the internet sites from Atlanta and get 1-2strippers from Atlanta a few hours away for 5-800 dollars. You can actually look on their internet site and pick them out. They are glad to get the money and damn sure don’t holler rape after the party

Posted by: Rick Bendinger | April 15, 2007, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Sandra,
I am serious. Many of the fraternities at a SE Alabama college use the internet sites from Atlanta and get 1-2strippers from Atlanta a few hours away for 5-800 dollars. You can actually look on their internet site and pick them out. They are glad to get the money and damn sure don’t holler rape after the party

Posted by: Rick Bendinger | April 15, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Well if anone really thinks that the left wing bais doesnt exsist in the media this answers their question,

Posted by: lee | April 15, 2007, 12:08 am 12:08 am

If only you were falsely accused of rape, maybe then you could type this article. You definitely are guilty of writing a horrible article.

Posted by: gianna | April 15, 2007, 12:08 am 12:08 am

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Rush Limbaugh makes an off the cuff remark about Hillary Clintons pant suit. Democrats, Al Sharpton and Men’s Warehouse demand he be fired.
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Vince Foster rises from the grave and is caught walking toward RNC Headquarters in Washington. Seized by Secret Service he is buried along with the Rush Limbaugh flap.
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Puxatawney Phil’s Meteorological Certificate is revoked and is executed after he predicts six more weeks of winter.
After taking her case to the Supreme Court, Hillary Clinton is determined the winner of Super Tuesday.
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John Edwards house burns to the ground releasing more C02 into the atmosphere than all of the volcanic eruptions in history to date. Neighbor’s trailer faulty wiring is to blame.
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Hillary’s running mate Bill Clinton, was found strangled with stained blue dress. The following women were arrested.
Juanita Broaddrick
Eileen Wellstone
Elizabeth Ward Gracen
Regina Hopper Blakely
Kathleen Willey
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Cristy Zercher
Paula Jones
Carolyn Moffet
Monica Lewinsky
Gennifer Flowers
Dolly Kyle Browning
Sally Perdue
Betty Dalton
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Linda Tripp
Hillary picks her daughter Chelsea to be her new running mate.
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Rush Limbaugh is fired for suggesting Chelsea Clinton is gay.
Mary Cheney, Dick Cheney’s daughter is caught by paparazzi vomiting uncontrollably at a restaurant in Los Angeles
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Hillary Clinton is elected president of the United States.
Posted by: Gary Burnett | Apr 13, 2007 11:25:30 PM
Taken down Apr 14 10:15 PM
RE-

Posted by: Gary Burnett | April 15, 2007, 12:08 am 12:08 am

In a way, for these lacrosse boys, they invited trouble, and that’s what they got. Stripper parties is one aspect of American culture that would be better off given up on.

Posted by: Nick Hazard | April 15, 2007, 12:09 am 12:09 am

you are an idiot, terry moron. you are soooo biased on soooo many stories.
don’t you realize that outside of the beltway (let’s call it AMERICA), that no white men think like you? example: white men voted in 2004 58-41% Republican (which is about the same percentage that Reagan beat Mondale with to win 49 states).
Another words, Mr. Moran, you are irrelevent.

Posted by: joe | April 15, 2007, 12:10 am 12:10 am

Where do you start criticizing this crap?
3 innocent men accused of rape, the DA commissions a DNA test that exonerates them and withholds it and the young men fight back? This is a bad thing?
And to compare 3 men falsely accused of rape and continuing to be prosecuted by a DA who knows they are innocent to 10 college women at Rutgers who are called names on the radio? It’s nice to see ABC doesn’t do random IQ tests.
And just for the record as to who is “privileged”…. These brave young women at Rutgers are being given a top notch FREE education for what? Playing a game. And what is the horrible thing that happened? Someone called them a name. Guess what? It’ll probably happen again. Someone may actually be mean to them when they don’t deserve it. Grow up. At least they are not facing major prison time for something they didn’t do.

Posted by: Craig Schnieders | April 15, 2007, 12:20 am 12:20 am

The writer of this article is as dispicable as nifong and the lying accuser, why is she not prosecuted the biggest injustice here is that she gets away with this.

Posted by: tim | April 15, 2007, 12:23 am 12:23 am

I pray that every single white American youth whose parents make over 50k a year be sodomized by some mythical/biblical figure and brought up on charges of heresy.

Posted by: Fluff | April 15, 2007, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Mr. Moran has obviously had his name mispelled for his entire life. On the basis of his musings on the Duke athletes falsly accused, it should rightly me spelled “Moron”.

Posted by: Andy Zaplatynsky | April 15, 2007, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both. I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by police and prosecutors, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is.
The media “focused” on these “victims” for months before it was confirmed they were innocent and most often portrayed them negatively. The attention you “journalists” drew to the case made certain any outcome would be a story. Please do not pretend that a guilty verdict in this case would not have been a much bigger story for you “journalists”. Had the perps been black and the VICTIM white in this case it would not have been news UNTIL prosecutorial misconduct was found. Just like you “journalists” have reported nothing on the slaughter of two young whites in Knoxville Tenn by 4 blacks. In the reverse case (4 whites slaughtering 2 blacks) you “journalists” would be slobbering for years! In other words this statement would be more correct in your article:
I would hate to say the color of their skin is one reason journalists do not focus on these victims of injustices perpetrated by minority Americans, but I am afraid if we ask ourselves the question honestly, we would likely find that it is. Your blog is mostly “Weak Sauce”.

Posted by: Robert | April 15, 2007, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Justice prevailed. Lying witness discredited. Duke boys vindicated. They did not deserve to be charged but are not due sympathy because they put themselves in position to be wrongfully accused by participating in drunken games with strippers and whores. Race is not an issue here, but the boys were lucky their families had means to finance their defenses; others might have been less fortunate. Lesson should be: you wallow with pigs, you get covered with slop. Nothing unfair about that.

Posted by: Bob Morgan | April 15, 2007, 12:32 am 12:32 am

more like Terry MORON

Posted by: tim | April 15, 2007, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Total legal fees are estimated to be about $4-5 million. This includes every member of the lacrosse team who had to spend about $30,000 in legal fees, even though they weren’t charged.
There was NO crime. Pity they can’t all be reimbursed, preferably by the BIG media who goosed the story, the D.A., and the 88 obnoxious faculty members who rushed to judgment.
Contribute to their legal fees at http://truthandfairness.org

Posted by: Mother | April 15, 2007, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Total legal fees are estimated to be about $4-5 million. This includes every member of the lacrosse team who had to spend about $30,000 in legal fees, even though they weren’t charged.
There was NO crime. Pity they can’t all be reimbursed, preferably by the BIG media who goosed the story, the D.A., and the 88 obnoxious faculty members who rushed to judgment.
Contribute to their legal fees at http://truthandfairness.org

Posted by: Mother | April 15, 2007, 12:39 am 12:39 am

The point is not whether these yong men were white/black, rich/poor, athletes/non-athletes, right or wrong. The point is that they were falsely accused of a crime because they were white men, rich & athletes. To say that the situation is OK because there are situation has happened elsewhere to others is moot. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. It has ALWAYS been true that if you have money to buy legal help you do better in the justice system. Is that these young mens fault? No it is not. Did they do something stupid — yep. Was it illegal — nope. Would it have been an issue if the alleged victim was a white stripper — probably not. This became an issue when the same people who hounded Dom Imus pressured a politically ambitious DA to find these men guilty – with or without proof.
Do the Al Sharptons & Jesse Jacksons of the world care about poor white(or Asian or Hispanic) girls who may also work as strippers and who also may sometimes be placed is less than desirable situations? Noe – they came forward praising this woman and pressing her case. Because we all know that every black woman who works as a stripper is forced to do so & is mistreated by her clients. Not one thought was given to the fact that in this country we are INNOCENT until proven guilty. Not guilty because we are of a certain race. it takes real kahunas to posture oneself as a civil rights activist and only care about the civil rights of 1 group of people. It does not resolve old problems. It does widen the gulf they SAY they want closed. Until both sides of situations like this back off & be honest as to their true intentions no headway is made.
And in the meantime 3 young lives are harmed in a way that may never be repaired. And we are dickering if it matters because of their color & circumnstances in life. Get real.

Posted by: Sue Darling | April 15, 2007, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Terry, you most certainly have the brain that God, in His infinite wisdom, gave a piss ant.
“They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.”
So? Is it illegal to purchase a stripper?
“Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.”
What’s your point? Is that illegal?
“During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.”
While small minded and not very nice, still, not illegal (the 1st Amendment comes to mind).
“Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.”
Unrelated to this case, Einstein.
“The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.”
While it’s agreed that these young men came with parents that have money, I’m sure, Mr. Moran, that should you ever have legal trouble you could afford top flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.
I hope that none of your children ever have to go through an ordeal like this.
As a liberal, maybe you should dig DEEP down and try to find some of that compassion the Left is always spouting.

Posted by: Scott Fields | April 15, 2007, 12:40 am 12:40 am

so we should not feel sorry
for these boys? the writer of
this story is an idiot.

Posted by: mark | April 15, 2007, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Every time a reporter mentions ‘rich WHITE boy’, its a racist remark intended to imply guilt. As for the strippers, its a job freely chosen by adult women. This particular dancer was not in control of herself due to drink or drugs – that was her choice. To lie was also her choice. And just because the families were ‘rich’ doesn’t mean they weren’t hurt by the cost of the defense. And since the boys are expected to work when they graduate means that rich is a somewhat limited state dependent on future work. They could all have ended up in prison and totally destroyed by a lie supported by a lynch mob. Just lovely.

Posted by: Barb | April 15, 2007, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Bob Morgan is a terrorist.

Posted by: Ben | April 15, 2007, 12:43 am 12:43 am

WHAT A STINKING PILE OF STUFF!
WHY DON’T WE KNOW THE NAME OF THIS WOMAN? SHE IS NO LONGER A VICTIM TO BE PROTECTED! LET HER LIFE START TO BE A LIVING HECK, LIKE THE DUKE BOYS!
WHAT A PILE OF DUNG!
Fire Al Sharpton from HIS radio show! Jesse, since the RAINBOW/PUSH COALITION is off the hook from paying for this LIAR’S tuition, give the money to the boys whose lives you’ve ruined!
You guys say that you’re Revs? God will certainly set you straight, because you guys are frauds and hypocrites!

Posted by: Chip | April 15, 2007, 12:49 am 12:49 am

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN
All the same and you have to be a liberal imbecile to get high in the ranks of any of them.
Do ya think he would be anchor if he didn’t think in this deranged manner?
Is there any reason why FOX won’t be the number one news organization in 10 years? The writing is on the wall. Can’t wait.

Posted by: Dan Doyle | April 15, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Well, it seems I was censored earlier so I’m putting it out here again…
Dear “Dukie boys”, If you would like to re-coup the $3 million your “privileged” parents shelled out, then sue Terry Moran as well as his employer, ABC, for LIBEL and SLANDER! One can’t go around spewing double-standard, hypocritical vitriol and not expect a few lawsuits as well as to lose one’s job in this climate as of late, now can one??!! The Moron should be held accountable – it his blog, isn’t it?

Posted by: ceecy | April 15, 2007, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Stop being the guilt ridden white guy trying to appease two sides. The three defendents were found not guilty. Case closed. Unfortunately thse young men’s names cannot be untied from this mistake. A DA driven to win votes used this case to keep an elected position. Nifong should be sued and relieved of his job. And you should think before writing your next blog entry.

Posted by: Jason | April 15, 2007, 12:55 am 12:55 am

I guess it’s a crime to be a white male in America these days.
Fuck you, Moran.
You’re a privileged white male, so I guess I am in the right saying that.

Posted by: Perry James | April 15, 2007, 12:56 am 12:56 am

“Priviledged lives?” Like I’m sure employees of ABC News do not lead priviledged lives, and probably attended priviledged universities.
Bottom line there were wrongfully accused of rape. The rest of this piece is just diversion.

Posted by: David | April 15, 2007, 12:59 am 12:59 am

WHAT AN IDIOT! The difference between this wrongful prosecution and any other; is that their names and faces where spread all over the news with the impication of guilt. THAT is what makes them different then all the “other” cases.

Posted by: becesteve | April 15, 2007, 1:00 am 1:00 am

What do you think the reaction of Sharpton, Jackson and the press would be if the accuser was a white and the team members were black?
Einar Swanson

Posted by: ae swanson | April 15, 2007, 1:05 am 1:05 am

What do you think the reaction of Sharpton, Jackson and the press would be if the accuser was a white and the team members were black?
Einar Swanson

Posted by: ae swanson | April 15, 2007, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Hey sandra;
I hope you enjoyed your gang bang you pulled with the knoxville four. By the way, did you wear a blue dress, and keep the evidence in your closet?, or was the train scene #1, in the epic classic: Chocolate creme pies # 94? I bet you have seen more dick than a stadium urinal….LOL

Posted by: not bill clinton | April 15, 2007, 1:08 am 1:08 am

Everyone forgets its the woman who falsely accused them of rape. Its her turn to get sued. She has managed to get off totally free.
She will probably get offers from Playboy to pose and will probably get book/movie rights.
She is the one responsible for all the taxpayers money spent on the basis of her false testimony.
her name is Crystal Gail Mangum

Posted by: John | April 15, 2007, 1:09 am 1:09 am

“One time I was with Terry Moran in the back of a pickup truck, along with a live deer. Terry goes up to the deer and says, ‘I’m Terry Moran! SAY IT!’ Then he manipulates the deer’s lips in such a way as to make it say, ‘Terry Moran’ … It wasn’t exactly like it, but it was pretty good for a deer!’”

Posted by: Ron | April 15, 2007, 1:12 am 1:12 am

You must be crazy.

Posted by: Cliff White | April 15, 2007, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Just another example of the dual system of justice that still exist in the South. Over 140 years after the end of slavery we still find African American women treated as objects instead of people. Just because the State Attorney said these good ole boys are innocent we are ready to condemn the victim and anyone who attempted to help her. The only people that really know what happened that night are the Lacrosse players and the victim. At least Immus had the courage to confront his victims and apologize. If these good ole boys are so upstanding then we should see news coverage of them working on behave exploited women. It would certainly be a quicker route to restoring their good names then having paid mouthpieces talk about the raw deal they got.

Posted by: JVANELLS | April 15, 2007, 1:23 am 1:23 am

As a mom of a student/athlete let me assure you that everyday he has to earn that scholarship and earn the right to be a student athlete at a very prestigious SEC college. There are no ‘gimmie’s’. We also know one of the families involved in this deplorable situation and no one that has voiced opinions here can, or should ever, know how this has impacted this family, neighbors, friends and relatives. I am sick and tired of hearing about these “rich and well to do kids”. I can assure you that this is not the case in all of these situations. There has been very little sleep, peace or contentment in these homes for over a year-as is also probably the case with the young woman. I am sure that neither side will ever be the same. These are regular college kids who have to keep up their grades and work hard on and off the field and showed up to a party. Remember, also, there is always an ‘invite list’ at these gatherings. There were kids other than these athletes there that night. Mr. Nifong, thank God, did all of us a favor by showing us that he has no guts, no conviction, no morals or real concern or evidence….for either side of this case. He didn’t care any more for the young woman than he did for these young men. He did, however, have to tell the world that these young men are innocent. Be careful. Don’t be quick to judge and believe what you have only read or heard in the media. And media, be careful and truthful with what you print. You are talking about peoples lives–and NO–none of their lives will ever be the same-on either side-. Be careful America.

Posted by: D | April 15, 2007, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Your a moron, wrong is wrong. Hiring a stripper is legal. How are you some kind of moral judge? How do you really know racial words were thrown around. Your the same type of person that would hang people before they are proven guilty. That’s I guess what journalists are all about, all in the name of the mighty dollar… Makes me want to puke…

Posted by: Bobby | April 15, 2007, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Who cares about the mishaps of a bunch of moron athletes hiring strippers and plying alcohol to minors, anyway? “Damn, we called them the n word and they accused us of rape!” They got off easy.

Posted by: jdbee | April 15, 2007, 1:32 am 1:32 am

well in this case the victim were the duke players. having been falsely accused. The woman who did the accusing lied, plain and simple. She was even at one point quoted as making up a story so she could make some money.
The false accuser should be taken to court and forced to pay back all the money that was wasted on her behalf.

Posted by: john | April 15, 2007, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Wow! Don’t feel sorry for the 3 Duke players wrongfully accused of rape? How reckless! I don’t care if these kids were black or white, rich or poor. They were accused of crimes they never committed. You seem to imply that because they hired a few strippers for a party we should not feel sorry for them being accused of rape. What type of logic is that, Mr. Moran. WE are not supposed to feel sorry for them because their parents have money and were able to hire good lawyers. That is just crazy. We can’t feel sorry for them because they are white? We can’t feel sorry for them because their accuser is a serial liar or has some real problems.
We should feel sorry for them because this case will linger with them and some people will always wonder about what happens.
Really thoughtless comments Mr. Moran.

Posted by: kelly cullen | April 15, 2007, 1:36 am 1:36 am

These boys are not all RICH. Parents save a lifetime to send their kids to a good school. Some of them are there on scholarships. Not only should Nifong be sued by the young men, but so should Duke University and EVERY one of the professors who refused to have them in their classrooms. The young men have had their futures ruined by this grab for votes by Nifong and the grab for “rightousness” by these liberal profs. These boys are not innocent of hiring women to dance (which is legal), but they are INNOCENT of the crime they were accused of. The CRAZED women should be thrown in jail and made to repay all the $$$ spent in prosecuting this case. So should all the media dogs and black leaders who accused and name-called and are STILL PROTECTING the lying naked dancer. She went there knowing what she was getting into – NOTHING HAPPENED TO HER- but the young men have their lives turned over. Not right. If this was a white dancer accusing them of rape, would we have this topic even discussed? I think not.

Posted by: DeeAnn | April 15, 2007, 1:38 am 1:38 am

I’m sick of the moral bankruptcy of so many Americans defending questionable behavior as long as it’s legal. These lacrosse players were as dumb as a bag of hammers, and they were very lucky that their accuser was unbelievable.

Posted by: jdbee | April 15, 2007, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Terry must have writers block if he could not come up with something more worthy two write a story about.
Give it up, Terry. I find your story a waster of ink.

Posted by: mike | April 15, 2007, 1:40 am 1:40 am

What do the following people have in common?
Crystal Gail Mangum
OJ Simpson
Actually not much. Other than the fact they both beat the legal system

Posted by: Mary | April 15, 2007, 1:41 am 1:41 am

Ordering strippers is not illegal and underage drinking at college campuses is commonplace. Your an idiot for mentioning this. Furthermore if the conduct by these rich white kids you apparently despise was so bad, why didnt the strippers leave? Are you sure racist remarks were made by anyone let alone these three boys? The so called ‘victims’ claimed that a brutal rape occured.. So much for credibility.None of this justifies the demonization of these kids even if they are white. Perhaps rather than feel sympathy for these boys we should feel sympathy the overall state of ABC News.
Rather than utterly wasting our time with this politically slanted crap editorial, you should have report on the ‘countless cases of prosecutional misconduct across america’ you speak of. Put your money where your mouth is. Its crap reporting like this which makes Bill O’Reilly and Fox news so powerful. Thanks for hurting America Terry Moron and ABC News.

Posted by: Brandon | April 15, 2007, 1:43 am 1:43 am

Regardless of their social standing, that fact that the prosecutor withheld exculpatory evidence and pursued a case based on political motive is absolutely intollerable.
Our judicial system, and the freedom it represents, defines our country. The Duke students deserve our sympathy, as does anyone who does not get a fair day in court. In this case, they also deserve an apology from those who trashed them publicly before the facts were known.

Posted by: Steve | April 15, 2007, 1:44 am 1:44 am

After reading this blog, I’m a bit confused. I thought the ABC correspondent’s last name was “Moran”, not Moron!

Posted by: George Fitzmaurice | April 15, 2007, 1:52 am 1:52 am

This article stunk. We are supposed to remember not to “feel sorry” for them because they could afford a lawyer? We shouldn’t feel sorry for them because they paid the strippers?
This kids logic doesn’t make sense. He’s not ready for the big time.
Their college education was screwed up. Their lives were screwed up. They will always be guilty in the minds of some. And this guy writes a sour grapes article because it turns out they were INNOCENT! But since they were guilty of being from wealth families they should get no sympathy?
This is more of the old left wing “two nations” crap. “Rich people are our enemy”??

Posted by: Stephen | April 15, 2007, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Terry Moran of ABC News Hits A Nerve With His Dukies Stupidity

This somewhat random post comes from Gribbit and I reading some blogs a little earlier and came across one that touched and linked readers to the writing corner of Terry Moran, a writer for ABC News. Upon going to his site, we were greeted with the ti…

Posted by: Mrs. Gribbit's Word | April 15, 2007, 1:57 am 1:57 am

jdbee;
memo to you- Duke is a lot more difficult to graduate from than your school- Grambling…………….

Posted by: not bill clinton | April 15, 2007, 2:00 am 2:00 am

I knew Terry in high school, he was a tool then, nice to see nothing has changed. Well Terry Berry, you can run from your past but you can’t hide.

Posted by: Jerky Kermen | April 15, 2007, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Yes, these boys may be “privileged” and the events of that evening are more than reprehensible. But lets not forget that those were the actions of a group of people. How many people are on that team? How many of them were at that party? Alot more than three. However only three of them had their lives distroyed, not to mention the way that this effected their families. These events serve as an important lesson to all college students but it isn’t fair that the burden of teaching that lesson feel on three INNOCENT individuals.
This isn’t a matter of opinion. They were proven INNOCENT.

Posted by: Caitlin | April 15, 2007, 2:03 am 2:03 am

They hurl racial slurs at the women they hired to come into their and strip for them? I’m sure it didn’t stop there. It was easy to believe these guy’s did the crime because just looking at them, I doubt they could laid any other way. They resemble every composite drawing of wanted serial killers I’ve seen.

Posted by: oak4berk | April 15, 2007, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Let’s also remember that most victims of prosecutorial conduct are not headline news every night. Let’s also remember that the accuser was referred to on ABC and elsewhere as a rape victim, implicitly affirming their guilt. Finally YOU ARE A REPORTER!!!! IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A LACK OF COVERAGE, WHY ARE YOU BLAMING THE DUKE LACROSSE PLAYERS? Prosecutorial misconduct is shameful, and probably points up the fact that it should be a term-limited, appointed position, rather than an elected one. Placing incentives for convictions is only likely to worsen justice. But you and those who agree with you about the existence of other prosecutorial misconduct justifying any amount of damage or suffering that they have already suffered or will suffer in the future is ethically problematic. Put more accurately, it’s just disgusting; no better than than the mobs who once cheered on the lions in the coliseum.

Posted by: JT | April 15, 2007, 2:12 am 2:12 am

WHY ARE POSTS DISAPPEARING?? What happened to mine???
You people – news folks like Moran – have no leg to stand on. We know it. And you know it too, no matter how many posts you delete, thinking it will all go away.
We’re not going away.

Posted by: Joe | April 15, 2007, 2:13 am 2:13 am

Terry,
Your thought process appears shallow.

Posted by: M A Rand | April 15, 2007, 2:14 am 2:14 am

Saying that these boys don’t deserve pity because of their behavior that night is like saying a woman deserves to get raped because she sleeps around. Are you really that perverse? Typical liberal bs. I esp. liked the response from the woman who said Bill Clinton was an upstanding man – yea right.

Posted by: kerry early | April 15, 2007, 2:14 am 2:14 am

Thank goodness Mr. Moran has this blog to let us know how he really feels. Now we can understand what drives the biased coverage we see on network news. The news organizations bemoan declining audiences as if their viewers were mysteriously disappearing. What could be making people not watch the news? Hmmm…let’s see, maybe it’s reporters who advocate a lack of sympathy for people falsely accused of felonies. Maybe it’s the constant editorializing during parts of the broadcast allocated to “facts”. Maybe people don’t understand why reporters have blogs, anyway? Is how a reporter feels about an issue important? To the reporter, yes. To the reporter’s girlfriend, maybe. To the viewer, nothing could be of less interest. And we are turning them off.

Posted by: Steve J. | April 15, 2007, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Only a lefty could write or endorse an article suggesting you have to be poor, black, and disadvantaged in order to qualify for sympathy in the event of being wrongly accused of…ANYTHING.
While I don’t endorse the overall activity they planned that night, or any other unsavory behavior they might have or will someday pursue, I hope that they keep going after they sue Nifong into the ground.
I hope and pray they utilize the lefties’ favorite gambit, and sue EVERYBODY: the university, its president, the Group of 88 (faculty professors) that publicly pronounced them guilty, and then, oh boy, AND THEN…
Put Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson in the poor house permanently. Take away from Jesse and his boys all the beer distributorships he extorted from business over the years, and make Sharpton pay up for past libels he’s committed as well. Put both of those criminals out of work entirely, AND THEN…
Go after EVERY NEWSPAPER, EVERY NETWORK, EVERY AFFILIATE, AND EVERY INDEPENDENT TV OUTLET that pronounced these boys as oppressors & rapists instead of holding out until a jury ruled.
They should sue every last one of them that joined the bloodletting. I don’t care how much more rich it makes them than they already might be, I want to see the Mainstream Media bleed out. Drain the swamp of the liberal pestilence infecting our news media by eviscerating the bank accounts that keep them prolific.
Since our “balanced” media nearly universally pronounced them guilty because they were white and “privileged” and the “victim” was black and “oppressed”, these boys may be well-poised to bring down that whole left-wing controlled house of cards, beginning with the New York Times.
The idiot that wrote the above drivel is well represented among the editor and “reporter” class running the whole show. In fact, I think his article may represent the need to fire a pre-emptive strike, because this fool (and his editor) probably already sense what’s coming. You might say he has a built-in bias, a deep personal need to continue the discrediting these boys have already suffered so long, because he’s got to know in his heart that hard left-wing bigots like him are far more GUILTY of pre-judging and denying these boys their constitutional right to a fair trial without media prejudice influencing the jury. Other newspapers in the past have been made to pay for this kind of practice, but perhaps never so many so blindly followed the old Gray “Lady” right down into the toilet bowl.
It should be simultaneously interesting AND ironic to watch news coverage of the progress of lawsuits against Nifong, his jurisdiction, possibly his state, the university, its top officials, and the above-referenced “faculty” – all presented by the group constituting the biggest perpetrators of all, who will be sued last – and hopefully, best.
Just imagine being a member of the overly-exalted fourth estate assigned to being America continuous updates on the first round of lawsuits. While the thrill it will give the rest of us to witness the destruction of Jackson, Nifong, Sharpton, etc. will be nothing short of exhilaration, it will assuredly be quite an experience to be called upon “report” on the financial demise of all the members of that first group, knowing you’ll be tracking for all of us a fate that will/should eventually befall you and your associates (don’t liberals always call them “cronies”?) once these kids turn their legal top-guns to train them on you and your cronies.
I’ve often wished for just one political gift, if I could just pick it. It needn’t be a stacked deck against the left. Oh no, that would be too easy.
Instead, I wish to break the back of the MSM and all its worker bee graduates from journalism school – especially those with so-called advanced degrees in journalism. Given how almost the entire MSM is stepped into deep doo, I want to see these boys put a real hurtin’ in them. I’ll settle for balanced news reporting, and as a result America will eventually see the light once the red curtain is swept away.
I pray to God that this will be so, and I’ll be laughing as it does.

Posted by: Phil | April 15, 2007, 2:17 am 2:17 am

I’ve read some pretty incredible comments coming from some agenda-bound people who still have vitriol to spew at the innocent Duke players. Any right thinking person cannot help but be completely sickened by the events of this case. No matter what side of the fence you sit on justice is due EVERYONE. To those of you who disingenuously cite other cases of injustice as your excuse for continued bitterness towards these young men all I can say is ‘does that make the injustice they faced acceptable or any less real’? Is an attitude like that going to right the wrong done to other victims? If anything this case should cause the justice system to take extraordinary care to make sure this thing never happens to ANYONE again. Any further hatred or bitterness towards these men is simply baseless and highlights your character flaws, not theirs. There is also the question of what to do with the Duke professors who signed the infamous ’88′ letter, Mike Nifong, President Broadhead, Crystal Mangum, and others either directly or indirectly involved with this horrific smear. These men’s lives have been changed for good and they came very close to being thrown in prison for actions they were not guilty of. Had they not had enough money to pay for their outstanding legal fees it is quit possible the truth may never have come out and these fine young men would be languishing in some prison for a crime they did not committ (that is, if they weren’t killed first). This is VERY SERIOUS stuff, folks. In my estimation the major players in this hate-fest should be made to pay the ultimate penalty for what I consider Attempted Murder! The lynch-mob atmosphere created by (incredibly) professors of the very university these players resided was breathtakingly astounding. We entrust our kids into the hands of both the university and the faculty whom we expect will have their best interests in mind, not to draw and quarter them during some macabre Stalinist flashback to the good ol’ days of the purge. These families trusted Duke University and all its employees with their kids and to say Duke let them down is about as far from an understatement as Durham is to the moon. Shamefully, some are STILL claiming these young men “got off on a technicality,” or some other baseless, inflammatory piece of uninformed garbage stuffed into their minds by the cultural Bolsheviks. I can only feel sorry for miscreants such as these. Unlike the impressive calmness these young men displayed in the face of Durham’s UGLIEST, they would be squealing like stuck pigs had it been them. But, make no mistake about it, there are many people who deserve nothing short of the rack for their part in this degenerate near-slaughter of young men Duke University SHOULD be proud of. I would urge ALL right thinking people and alumni of Duke to both withdraw your children and money and send them somewhere else. Duke needs to get the message that this type of behavior – especially from its faculty – will not be tolerated. And, MAKE IT HURT!

Posted by: Pat Mason | April 15, 2007, 2:21 am 2:21 am

This article is immature and the writer completely generalizes. Listen to this:
“They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers.”
(it is extremely common for a group of males to collect money for strippers. It happens all the time and is usually more expensive)
“Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper.”
(big deal. They are paying $800, they all have different tastes and they should be able to get what they want to pay for. It’s a business.)
“During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers.”
(can you be any more general? what were these “epiteths” and in what context were they used?)
“Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005.”
(and that’s a separate case that has nothing to do with this one)
“The young men were able to retain a battery of top-flight attorneys, investigators and media strategists.”
(good for them. If I were falsely accused or rape, I would won’t the best attorneys available.)
How you can say that you don’t feel sorry for someone falsely accused of rape is beyond me!

Posted by: TheShmoo | April 15, 2007, 2:21 am 2:21 am

This Moran guy is an idiot.
Why is he still working for ABC News?

Posted by: W | April 15, 2007, 2:29 am 2:29 am

Sounds like Terry Moran and quite a few other people posting on this site suffer from class envy.

Posted by: Patrick Moore | April 15, 2007, 2:40 am 2:40 am

I don’t watch Terry Moran, but I have heard of him and his reputation has preceded him. That is why whenever I hear his name, I think Moron, not Moran. This whatever you call it by him proves my point.

Posted by: James A. Webster | April 15, 2007, 2:57 am 2:57 am

The usual rightwinger blowhards with their accusations of hypocrisy.. Of course they are the biggest hypocrites around, because in an earlier case involving a supposed rape victim, there wasn’t even exonerating DNA evidence, only the woman’s word against a white male, they don’t let that stop them from accusing Bill Clinton of rape…for all their decrying injustice in this case.. this is exactly what they WISH would happen to Bill Clinton, innocent or not.. I agree with Terry Moran, if I have sympathy to spend, it’s going to be on someone who doesn’t have a prayer of hiring lawyers or publicists, but someone whose only hope is the Innocence Project, who are hampered with large caseloads and limited funds…

Posted by: Tess I Guess | April 15, 2007, 3:27 am 3:27 am

Here we have an example of a not-so-bright, millionaire “journalist” condemning allegedly well-off college students because they were the victims of a “vicious liar or fantasist;” or vicious black racist, one should add (though Terry can’t because it collapses his utopian assumptions about the plight of the oppressed, minority group member). How has such a shallow-headed white male risen to such a position of influence? (Although miserably failing in that, here.) His perverted logic deserves no analysis since it is so obviously self-serving. Thus one must look at that prejudiced, subjective self of his and his motivations. Simply sour grapes that nihilistic, liberal assumptions about reality proved the worst of guides in predicting the true events and outcome? Or is something deeper and more insidious at play within Terry’s vengeful soul? A hatred of the possibility that wild students, engaging in a youthful, leisure activity not alien to Terry’s college experience, were still miraculously able to uphold the middle class values under which they were raised. That, in the end, and after a severe Nifonging, the accused students still could not be made to take on the wolves’ skins which Terry, and all presumptous liberals, would place upon the white male student in conflict with a scared minority group member. Terry is hating the good for being the good. Ayn Rand pinned down that syndrome ages ago. He might have attempted to play up Mangum’s possible virtues (were any likely) for greater contrast, but even he knew that was a fool’s errand.
Terry’s biggest focus is on ‘the system,’ of which his media company is a significant part, and indeed helped condemn, a priori, innocent men in this instance. He seems to denigrate the students since they were able to muster the means to “fight off” the system that utterly failed them. Terry, like most devout liberals hateful of the system, is indeed very confused – a condition always brought to light by liberal anger and its attendant vengeance/ remorse when reality fails to conform to the darkest dreams of class differences.
The victim in this case has been found out to be the vicious, exploitive perpetrator. Fancy that, a prostitute not imitating Mother Theresa. And the supposed privileged, white, wild men weren’t actually riding roughshod over a helpless minority member. What’s the world coming to when people defy their convenient stereotypes? It’s coming to what it has always been – a spectrum of personality types that are defined by their psychology and values, not their group membership as defined by Marxism, hateful feminist advocacy groups and disgruntled individuals who have suffered injustice; or the liberal-leaning media. Like all human conflicts, this is a story of individualism. On the trashy side we have a victim making false claims readily exploited by a power-seeking prosecutor and a biased media. On the admirable side we have falsely accused students and their supportive families and lawyers seeking the truth that would ultimately spawn justice. It is terribly obvious which individuals operated under respectable values – obvious to everyone except those alien to those values, like Terry Moran. He should have never published this stillborn, mutated thought exercise; but that has always been the liability of the righteous and vengeful – self-injuring caprice.

Posted by: Al Sharpman II | April 15, 2007, 3:39 am 3:39 am

Please write to ABC and demand that this idot be fired.

Posted by: john newton | April 15, 2007, 3:42 am 3:42 am

Gee, college-aged men (boys) hiring strippers. Oh, the horrors. I’m sure Saint Moran hasn’t done anything that obscene.
This article is a complete joke (as is the author). It could be a lib parody.

Posted by: JC | April 15, 2007, 3:51 am 3:51 am

Buying strippers, drunkenly saying threatening things to them (corroborated by players as well as the accuser and her colleague), and behaving badly is inviting trouble and less than admirable. The emails that were intercepted among them looked very aggressive and not nice either. Young people make mistakes and I hope they have gotten closer to understanding that being unkind to people can backfire in unexpected ways, and even if it doesn’t is simply wrong.
As for the accuser, she was troubled, and drinking too much and feeling threatened called forth an awful memory that replaced the current reality. She was NOT asking for money, and there was no evidence of her seeking such a civil case. This implies to me that she believed it happened, even if she was mistaken.
I can’t fault her or her colleague for doing whatever it took to get themselves through college and to make a better life for themselves and their children. Those boys didn’t have to worry about how they would get through college or about raising a child alone on this day and age, much less both at the same time. I hope they are headed for better futures.

Posted by: Deanna | April 15, 2007, 4:02 am 4:02 am

Has anyone asked revrend Al and Jessy if they are “outraged” at this travisty of justice??

Posted by: BoSanto | April 15, 2007, 5:01 am 5:01 am

Did anybody ever think to give those boys credit for hiring an African American dancer? It is assumed they hired her only to degrade her as it is assumed the act of hiring any dancer for a situation like that is to do exactly that. However, let’s no longer “assume” they we in the wrong for what they did that night or for the fact they are “privileged” white males. Maybe just maybe they appreciated her physical beauty and enjoyed the show she put on (before the charade of course) because these “sons of priviledge” are part of a new generation who accepts minorities and appreciates them. BTW-it is a common activity in America for people of all walks of life to hire dancers of this type (both male and female-white black asian etc.) for special events.
This ain’t the 50′s anymore folks. It’s about time the media stopped pretending it still is.

Posted by: Will | April 15, 2007, 5:01 am 5:01 am

boy, it sure is good seeing white people using racial epithets so freely. it’s almost like…well…like we have free speech back. what a novel idea. so, along those lines, allow me to exercise MY right of free speech by suggesting that we should stop allowing black figureheads to throw years and years of “oppression” guilt on the heads of white america. i could’ve sworn we started over after the whole birmingham thing. or maybe it was after the million man march thing, whenever we gave the crazy asshole, Farrakhan, a mouthpiece for HIS racist rantings. remember america…it’s not, i repeat, NOT a shame to be white. not like i’m saying it’s a shame to be black…it’s just a shame that some blacks make us feel terrible for being born into the families that we have. i’m crying reverse racism…and i’m taking the ghettos and the rainbow coalition to court. see you on c-span.

Posted by: Instant Karma | April 15, 2007, 5:18 am 5:18 am

So being rich elitist snob means you are not allowed to use your means to purchase the best defense possible? They should slum it and go to jail so they don’t alienate the lower classes?
No, my friend. This is article isn’t about not feeling too bad about these guys… it’s about you not wanting the public to start getting mad at the media, as we rightfully should.

Posted by: Mike | April 15, 2007, 5:31 am 5:31 am

Your article suggests that because there is prosecutorial misconduct, mainly towards blacks, that it is okay that white athletes at an “upper class, ‘white’ school” are falsely accused of a crime and a prosecutor who is looking for the “black vote” to be re-elected, pursues faulty facts. The Duke Lacrosse players were falsely charged and tried by the media and the racial activists before all the evidence had been presented. Whether the Lacrosse players had money or not or were white or black is not the issue; the issue is the fact that the media jumps any time racism, Jesse or Al gets involved and the facts are irrelevant. The media, Jesse, and Al need to stop crying wolf and try to help people not hinder them.

Posted by: Lorraine | April 15, 2007, 6:02 am 6:02 am

You sir, are a santimonious ass. They were guilty only of being wealthy & white. This case was never about justice for ANYONE. It was merely the prelude to the civil suit were this ‘troubled’ young woman hoped to hit the legal system lottery!

Posted by: Eric | April 15, 2007, 6:08 am 6:08 am

THE ISSUE BEFORE US IS JUSTICE. THIER GUILT OR INNOCENSE SHOULD NOT BE BASED ON THEIR PREJUDICES, BUT ON THEIR DEEDS. THE NOTION THAT GUILT IS ASCERTAINED BY PREJUDICE IS ABSURD. TO USE THIS FORUM TO INDICT THESE YOUNG MEN IS TO INCITE HATRED BASED ON EMOTIONS.
SHAME ON YOU.

Posted by: ALFRED HOLDEN | April 15, 2007, 6:13 am 6:13 am

You said:
“there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases.”
But the media didn’t know that it was prosecutorial misconduct when they began covering it. I believe that the reason that the media covered this story was because it relished the thought of priviledged white men brought low.
The bias in the media is against the Duke men and has been from the beginning.

Posted by: Joe | April 15, 2007, 6:18 am 6:18 am

This entire case is a classic case of what’s been going on with regard to minority treatment in the legal system for years. The only exception is the accused person’t ability to defend themselves from the prosecution. In most cases, IF Lucky, the accused MIGHT get an upstart defense attorney to take up their cause and get some evidence to free them.
If the Duke guys ‘deserve’ compensation for the wrongs commited on them, then surely you believe that the many minorities that have been hanged, beaten, burned, and harrassed simply because of the color of their skin, deserve compensation for their treatment; right?

Posted by: Gerald | April 15, 2007, 6:26 am 6:26 am

Well, Terry, the overwhelming evidence points to the fact that you are a self-serving, arrogant, hypocritical, ignorant liberal and should be fired. Your prejudice and hurtful speech demeaning some fine Duke students and All white people with jobs is not the kind of thing we should be reading in or hearing from the media. Ask Don Imus.
ABC boycott is coming. Although nobody will notice. They are already sinking pretty low (in ratings, I mean! LOL!!!).
Hope you read every single post here.

Posted by: ricardo Max | April 15, 2007, 6:47 am 6:47 am

It is sad that we have here another article that tries to go back to the race issue. There is a concentrated effort on the part of many journalists to keep it focused on the Black issue. Perhaps this flood of articles may incite the White men of America to become just a little angry at the current tone. I for one was considering Hillery and Obama as potential choices – no longer.

Posted by: Mike Nunn | April 15, 2007, 7:00 am 7:00 am

Once upon a time somebody at one of the two elite universities I attended – including Duke – taught me that making blanket comments about people based on their socio-demographic affiliations is termed “stereotyping.” Moreover, doing so is to fundamentally ignore the value of the individual and as such is ethically indefensible. It has been a while, but I’m pretty sure, this is one of the arguments that underpins the notion of racism as an ethicaly repugnant thing.
Yet, once again, we’re all burdened with a “journalist” — and all the high sounding claims of special moral sensitivity, ethical enlightenment and factual objectivity that seem lately to go with that — spinning even more racism in criticising what they thought was racism but which turned out not to be racism. Thank goodness the students involved were all from the North, or we’d likely be subjected to even more whining about how this situation was not only a “rich, white elite” problem, but also a “Southern” matter.
This guy seems to suggest one should not be sypathetic to the position of the students because of factors in their lives which they didn’t control. Those factors are a mix of socio-demographic facts: anglo-saxon origin and parents that have been economically successful. The author implies there are the only reasons they attend a well regarded university. To this Southern, anglo-saxon, Duke alumnus, that sounds like a form of racism — and if not certainly classism.
Dare I suggest the author spend some time at one of these elite universities of which he speaks so lowly? Perhaps he could take a philosophy or literature class? Then possibly he can understand the bald faced classist bigotry of his remarks.
As one of my very Southern friends pointed out, “If the boys did it, put them in jail. If the boys didn’t do it, put Nifong and the accuser in jail.” I wonder how much reporting our author will do now that we know who did what?

Posted by: Jonathon Albright | April 15, 2007, 7:01 am 7:01 am

I think Terry Moran is auditioning for Don Imus’s job.
As any “good” media person knows, controversy wins the ratings.

Posted by: shock jock | April 15, 2007, 7:02 am 7:02 am

Gee… this knucklehead makes the “connection” between the Duke Lacrosse team (rich, white, privaleged, able to buy top legal protection etc.) and the Rutgers Women’s Basketball team (the victims, underprivaleged).
Where did Terry Moran go to school? Could Terry afford a damn good attorney if he needed one? Stop feeling so guilty Terry. There is help for people like you on EIB from 12 to 3.
The writer of this article also forgot to mention that the Duke Lacrosse team and the accused were the victims of the (Rush-coined) “Justice Brothers”.
When are the Rev.’s Al and Jesse going to hold their private meeting with the Duke Lacrosse team?
Terry Moran, do you realize that the only reason why so many people actually read your article is because Drudge picked it up?
Please focus your intellectually-superior blogging and journalistic abilities on things that are really important.
Do a story for your audience on how and where they can get some free government cheese.

Posted by: Attila The Hun | April 15, 2007, 7:08 am 7:08 am

Terry,
Guess you are to blame! You and your media collegues are the ones who blew this story out of proportion. You are the ones whom didn’t publicize the falicy of many of the facts of the case. You wanted a scape goat, or 3 in this case. The boys may come families that have money or stature but they are forever scarred. Where is the media outrage for other cases of false acusations? Why doesn’t the media go after liberal leaders of other when they make a “Faux Paux.” No, you Mr. Morran are more at fault with you fellow reporters and I will never take anything you say seriously nor anything that comes from ABC News. Maybe people can speak out against you and ABC and they can FIRE You like CBS and MSNBC did to Don Imus. Stupid is as Stupid Does!!!

Posted by: Tony | April 15, 2007, 7:10 am 7:10 am

Wow,
Where to begin? Obviously you have never known fear. The kind of deep pitted, sun cannot shine, never feel good again fear. The kind of fear these young men must have felt facing 20 years in prison. Imagine the thought of being a tool for hardened lifers for a crime you did not commit.
Also, I would say it’s a fair bet that you don’t have children. If you did, you could easily feel the anguish of a parent seeing you child’s life paraded, and hooted (don’t forget the condemnation of the Duke Faculty and “civil rights leaders”) by a bloodthirsty crowd. Yes, they did bad things. In your mind that justifies everything that happened to them. Cast the first stone if you will, but for me I will feel sorry for the Dukies.

Posted by: R hession | April 15, 2007, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Terry, Thanks for this opinion article. Did you write it? If not, fire the person that did. If you wrote it, thanks again for confirming my opinion of journalism — you’d never be able to keep a job in the real world, where you are held accountable for results and reasonable application of standards. The long-term affects of this case will not be about race, class or gender, but about Nifong’s long-lasting damage to the American Justice System. Again, Thanks, you’ve made my day. Charlotte, NC

Posted by: Dianne | April 15, 2007, 7:16 am 7:16 am

The real story is that Nifong ,trailing a woman and a a black male in the polls by 17% just before an election manipulated black voters by using these men. He duped poor blacks by race and class warfare. He’s a soleless bastard.

Posted by: dw | April 15, 2007, 7:29 am 7:29 am

White, black, brown….everyone deserves justice. I do feel sorry for the Dukies. I also see the irony of the leadership of the university that they attend – what a bunch of elitist hipocrites to have banded together in condemnation of them before the process of justice had even begun. They placed themselves comfortably in the same boat as the race baiters led by Sharpton and Jackson. And like those two racist embiciles, they also offer no apology or remorse or even recognition that they trampled on the players civil rights.

Posted by: davo | April 15, 2007, 7:31 am 7:31 am

Typical knee-jerk journalism, at all costs! I’ve lost respect for the media! They should be embarrassed, hell I’m embarrassed for them!

Posted by: Pat Bartlett | April 15, 2007, 7:33 am 7:33 am

Wow, Never read Moran befre and never will again. what an idio. I have an idea, why doesn’t Mr. Moran go out and start covering as many non-white, poor injusices around the country that he is referencing. I guess then he wouoldn’t be able to run around with all the white, wealthy media folks that he does today.
We would do good to remeber, the USA has a lot of racists, all colors and backgrounds, in the country, but the USA is NOT a racist country.

Posted by: Rich | April 15, 2007, 7:34 am 7:34 am

Mr Moran,
Do you remember your college days? I am sure you were squeaky clean….RIGHT!! People of your ilk are always beyond reproach until the pot gets stirred then we are supposed to feel sorry for you when your people circle the wagons. No actually you were probably one of those punk asses that had little or no friends in school and always got beat up. That explains why you are a pampas ass.
These boys were delt a grave injustice. You are too worried about the white guilt you harbor or just your blind liberalism. Get over it.
As for blacks in the criminal justice system. I realize they make up 11-13% of the population and
62% of the people behind bars….well that means they commit 62+% of the crimes….it is simple math. This lying turd that made the allegations against these gentlemen should be behind bars as well. She is simply a KOOK. (and she is allowed to have children, God help us!!)
terry moran….go to hell.

Posted by: Terry | April 15, 2007, 7:35 am 7:35 am

“And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year.”
And even MORE IMPORTANT…that there is no such body as the bar to regulate cases of journalistic misconduct – which is much, much more rampant than poor lawyering.

Posted by: Gregory Shepherd Davis | April 15, 2007, 7:36 am 7:36 am

There is an interesting similarity here between what Nifong did, and Moran’s article–both could be seen as attempts to gain attention and popularity by disregarding and misinterpreting the facts. Ratings for journalists are like votes for prosecutors. Based on the responses I’ve read here, I’d say Moran’s attempt is working out as well as Nifong’s did. Perhaps this will be a career ending article.

Posted by: Jay Shenk | April 15, 2007, 7:38 am 7:38 am

Attila, thanks for the laugh.
I suppose you must now apologize to all the faithful regular readers of Terry Moran’s blog whose lives you have devastated by suggesting that they eat the government cheese.

Posted by: shock jock | April 15, 2007, 7:38 am 7:38 am

This is the liberal spin. The group thinkers are trying to save Jesse’s bacon. They don’t know why – but that’s what they’re up to.

Posted by: James | April 15, 2007, 7:40 am 7:40 am

Terry,
You have a big chip on your shoulder. You need to get some therapy.
While I don’t think highly of men who view strippers, it is still a legal activity and they have a right to hire strippers. And if they are going to hire strippers, there is nothing wrong with them requesting that at least one stripper be white. People have types they prefer.
To be accused of rape when you are totally innocent was a horrible experience for these young men and their families and friends. They absolutely deserve our sympathy.

Posted by: Annette | April 15, 2007, 7:41 am 7:41 am

If plaintifs were obliged to pay defendant’s legal fees, if the case is judged in the defendant’s favor, you would see a dramatic reduction in legal action.
Do lawyers want this? NO

Posted by: mysterh | April 15, 2007, 7:42 am 7:42 am

Don’t feel sorry for them? What an absolutely nieve and un-informed statement.
This case strikes at the very core of our legal system, That being you are innocent until proven guilty!!
And isn’t it interesting that Al Sharpton was front and center in both the Imus and Duke cases but now that the Duke case has been blown apart he is no where to be found with an apology. A TRUE civil rights leader would admit his mistake and be at the side of the inniocent with his apology in hand regardless of the color of their skin. But that would take a real man to do that and Al is not up to it!!!

Posted by: MGM4706 | April 15, 2007, 7:42 am 7:42 am

Speaking of “misplaced.” You know what’s “misplaced” Terry? I’ll tell you what’s misplaced…your mind is misplaced (where did it go? Was it ever there? Oops…I think you lost it), your ability to reason is misplaced, and finally, your politics are misplaced.

Posted by: Ralph | April 15, 2007, 7:46 am 7:46 am

This writer is pathetic, his justification for such judicial abuse is they used racial slurs?
This poor excuse for a man needs to get his head out of his rear end and try to understand Nifong did this just to get the idiot blacks and liberals to vote fo him.
Objective reporter? HA!

Posted by: Gary Boettner | April 15, 2007, 7:55 am 7:55 am

I just stumbled across this absolutely ridiculous article. How the Sam Hill did you ever get to the position of a news reporter–much less being encouraged to write an opinion piece? Do not equate hiring a stripper–which I assume is legal–with a heinous violent crime: rape. You need to re-enter a college yourself and take a course on logic or syllogistics before practicing your mental gymnastics as a writer for ABC.

Posted by: Fitz | April 15, 2007, 7:55 am 7:55 am

putting aside the asinine comments of “journalist” terry moran, I hope the three families sue the state, county, university (the Duke 88), media, faculty, accuser, etc., etc, into the stone age. the families should let all these parties via their lawyers know that they should all save their breath vis-a-vis apologies and start shaking their piggy banks.
it will be interesting to see if they press for a federal civil rights case which if i am not mistaken would bring felony charges against Nifong. prosecutorial misconduct should easily pierce the veil of prosecutorial immunity.

Posted by: ming666 | April 15, 2007, 7:57 am 7:57 am

you my friend are an idiot

Posted by: dstew | April 15, 2007, 8:00 am 8:00 am

You should change your name to Terry Moron!

Posted by: Mike | April 15, 2007, 8:01 am 8:01 am

It appears the three “Major” networks circulate the same cabal of writers. The previous descriptions (idiot, moron, etc) falls short of the evil intent by these network “wanabe” deities. It is getting to the point our “news” sources have finally arrived at the level about which they all once laughed and ridiculed when “news” stories by tabloids were published. It is obvious to most people that Moran and his writers can now get a job reporting on any of the TV tabloids…which is where they belong. NBC, CBS and ABC…America’s television tabloids with an agenda…long live the internet.

Posted by: txnbybrth | April 15, 2007, 8:02 am 8:02 am

THIS CASE REMINDS ALL OF US ABOUT HOW UGLY THE RESULT ARE WHEN POLITICS, MEDIA HYPE AND THE LAW ARE PUT IN THE SAME BAG. THIS HAPPENS TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND NOT ONLY SHOULD THE DA BE BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES, BUT THE MEDIA NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR WALLETS CLEANED OUT IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN SLANDER AND CHARACTER ASSISINATION.

Posted by: Sable1 | April 15, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am

I suppose we should not feel sorry for JFK, he rode in a convertible. after all.
Fire this dude and hire Imus

Posted by: Don | April 15, 2007, 8:07 am 8:07 am

Once upon a time somebody at one of the two elite universities I attended – including Duke – taught me that making blanket comments about people based on their socio-demographic affiliations is termed “stereotyping.” Moreover, doing so is to fundamentally ignore the value of the individual and as such is ethically indefensible. It has been a while, but I’m pretty sure, this is one of the arguments that underpins the notion of racism as an ethicaly repugnant thing.
Yet, once again, we’re all burdened with a “journalist” — and all the high sounding claims of special moral sensitivity, ethical enlightenment and factual objectivity that seem lately to go with that — spinning even more racism in criticising what they thought was racism but which turned out not to be racism. Thank goodness the students involved were all from the North, or we’d likely be subjected to even more whining about how this situation was not only a “rich, white elite” problem, but also a “Southern” matter.
This guy seems to suggest one should not be sypathetic to the position of the students because of factors in their lives which they didn’t control. Those factors are a mix of socio-demographic facts: anglo-saxon origin and parents that have been economically successful. The author implies there are the only reasons they attend a well regarded university. To this Southern, anglo-saxon, Duke alumnus, that sounds like a form of racism — and if not certainly classism.
Dare I suggest the author spend some time at one of these elite universities of which he speaks so lowly? Perhaps he could take a philosophy or literature class? Then possibly he can understand the bald faced classist bigotry of his remarks.
As one of my very Southern friends pointed out, “If the boys did it, put them in jail. If the boys didn’t do it, put Nifong and the accuser in jail.” I wonder how much reporting our author will do now that we know who did what?

Posted by: Jonathon Albright | April 15, 2007, 8:10 am 8:10 am

Terry,
Your moral compass is broken. You should get help soon. Really. Having a thought process that must fling just one more handful of mud at these boys means you are definitely not right in the head.

Posted by: Ref | April 15, 2007, 8:13 am 8:13 am

Well spoken comrade Moran…With more people like you out there we can make sure that everyone will be able to experience true social injustice…

Posted by: Chris | April 15, 2007, 8:14 am 8:14 am

What part of “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere” don’t you understand?
This proves there are too many news outlets and talent is not a requirement.
Don’t feel sorry for Buddy Holly – he coulda walked!

Posted by: Don | April 15, 2007, 8:14 am 8:14 am

I’m confused by the implications of your story. Don’t feel sorry for a group of people who were unjustly prosecuted simply because their families have money.
Do the young men have money themselves? Are they already worth 6 digits? My guess is no. What I do know is if I am a perspective employer and I google the name of one of these gentlement that I will read about their involvement in this case.
You point out that one was charged with a crime in 2005, but fail to mention the outcome. It’s tossed in offhand with the implied undercurrent of ‘oh he clearly had it coming to him. he must be a violent person.’
I am just as offended by the conduct in this case as I was of that young black man in Georgia who was imprisoned for having consenual sex with a white girl 2 years younger.
Why was he eventually freed? Because he was a top-notch High School football player with a promising future and that attracted the attention of Real Sports, ESPN and several other media outlets (including 20/20 I believe).
Am I also not supposed to feel sorry for this young man now that he has been freed? If someone champions your cause does it matter if they are doing it pro bono or if someone is paying for your legal defense?
So what’s your opinion of this one Terry? Technically, he did commit the crime. He was aggressively prosecuted and sentenced in accordance with a harsh law, but since being freed he’s received a college scholarship, appearances on Oprah and 20/20.
So where is your sense of outrage on that one? Essentially the only reason people took up the call to arms over him was he could play football.
In my book wrongful prosecution or wrongful conviction is wrong. It doesn’t matter if you are white, black, rich or poor. I’m glad those three white men were able to beat the charges. I’m glad that that one black man was released from a prison sentence that clearly did not fit the offense he committed.
Pretty nice double standard you’re trying to float here under the guise of being a journalist. You’re tone suggests a message of – They’ll be okay, because their parents have money so don’t feel too bad for them.

Posted by: Jim | April 15, 2007, 8:14 am 8:14 am

This article has class envy all over it. This case is the sole reason that we as citizens need to have frivolous lawsuits and prosecutors be made responsible for all of the costs incurred during a situation as this.
Joe Mikulec
Brighton, MI

Posted by: Joe Mikulec | April 15, 2007, 8:16 am 8:16 am

What a ridiculous argument. And to those that say (like the first response) it is ok for these white kids to “get a taste” of what has happened to black men over the years you need to turn the page. This type of sentiment is why we have had no real racial healing in this country.
By the way, when are Sharpton nd Jackson going to apologize to th Duke guys?

Posted by: Sam M | April 15, 2007, 8:17 am 8:17 am

What is this, another “fake but accurate” opinion? You and Dan Rather. Don’t let the fact that the boy’s were innocent get in the way of your desired interpretation. I assume by the content in this article, that you and others in your chosen profession don’t plan on looking in the mirror to see what role you may have played in this debacle. It’s little wonder why the public’s trust in the media is low.

Posted by: Bruce | April 15, 2007, 8:23 am 8:23 am

Liberal

Posted by: John | April 15, 2007, 8:25 am 8:25 am

What Hogwash. What ultra-liberal, politically correct rock did that comment come out from under? Because they are white, privileged, and had legal representation they should receive no sympathy for having their lives ruined, one full year in court, job prospects ruined, mental well-being trashed. This is a typical RACIAL COMMENT that continues to promote racisim in this country and widen the gulf between races and classes. You should be ashamed!

Posted by: Ron P | April 15, 2007, 8:28 am 8:28 am

So, Terry, where’s the erudite response? The elite perspective that puts all these comments we readers have posted to shame, and shows your moral superiority?
How about an apology? Oh right, that won’t work since it didn’t work for poor Imus.
I grew up in the sixties and was hoping that racism would die a quick death. Unfortunately, political opportunists and overweening yellow journalists such as yourself refuse to let it die. Your hatred of white people in general, and those who have the will, drive and talent to succeed, clearly prevents you from seeing how little race really matters in America anymore.
Yes, racism is alive in America. In the media, and in the attempt to fracture this county by polarization, by those who cannot rightly gain power if they publicly discussed their agenda.
White people are bad. Black people are good. Mexicans who violate our laws to enter this country instead of following the process are heroes, not criminals. Bla bla bla bla.
You and your colleages are sick, sick people. This is why we do not listen to you anymore. Soon your job definition will disappear, don’t you see? We don’t need you or anyone else to tell us how to think.
So your market share will steadily fall, you and your ilk will be marginalized by the spread of truly free media.
Just can’t happen soon enough for me. I already don’t listen to you, NBC, ABC, PBS, etc. Soon the rest of thinking Americans will join me, and your monopoly on double-speak and attempted mind control will cease.
Go away, Terry. You bother me.
8p

Posted by: Dave | April 15, 2007, 8:36 am 8:36 am

I’m sure this editorial Terry posted will go a long way in furthering his career. Remember, the mainstream media don’t think like us, they are the audience he’s pandering to. More and more people turn away from ABC every ratings period but these people are in their own little world. Instead of getting angry over his drivel just sit back and enjoy watching his world collapse around him, while all the time they sit there cluelessly wondering where the audience went.

Posted by: Tom | April 15, 2007, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Typical liberal horse crap. In your mind it is a crime to be a straight white male.

Posted by: Jeff | April 15, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am

Who hires “you people” ?

Posted by: John | April 15, 2007, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Here, Here. Tom has it right. And let’s not forget that at the rate they’re aborting themselves, it’s only a matter of time before they’re numerically insignificant. I just hope I live long enough to see it.

Posted by: John Adams | April 15, 2007, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Wow Terry, I went to college (Duke) with people just like you and always wondered where all the self-hatred comes from. Yes, self-hatred, because I can’t believe for a second that you’ve never benefitted from your socio-economic status, slipped to the front of the line or attended a party featuring a stripper. Get off your high horse.

Posted by: aje | April 15, 2007, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Is it any wonder that the evening network newscasts (ABC, CBS & NBC)
are losing viewers? Whatever became of the objective reporting of the news of John Cameron Swasey, Frank Reynolds and company? You, Terry Moran, along with David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell and those of your liberal -
leaning colleagues are killing off any sense of credibility of your profession…..apparently you are ignorant of this fact. Wahhhhhnnnnn!

Posted by: dennis hugh avey | April 15, 2007, 8:46 am 8:46 am

Moran = Moron!!!

Posted by: Anakin Skywalker | April 15, 2007, 8:52 am 8:52 am

Editorials & thinking like this is why ABC news is in the toilet. ADVERTISERS – QUIT GIVING ABC YOUR MONEY. MANY OF US WILL NOT BUY YOUR PRODUCTS BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT THEM.

Posted by: Bob | April 15, 2007, 8:54 am 8:54 am

I don’t understand why this isn’t considered a hate crime and prosecuted as such. Because that’s pretty much what it was. The fact that the young men were rich and white (and spoiled) isn’t irrelevant – it’s the point. Both the stripper and Nifong should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for committing hate crimes.

Posted by: Lee | April 15, 2007, 8:55 am 8:55 am

terry moron

Posted by: sniper | April 15, 2007, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Don’t feel too sorry for them? The media rush so quickly since day one to nail these men to the cross as if they were already guilty. The coverage the media gave from the beginning caused all the later public sympathy. That’s expected. Next time, I suggest the media stop been so quick to biased coverage and recognize the smell of foul play when there is one. Then you won’t get such big public sympathy.
Daniel
Houston

Posted by: Daniel | April 15, 2007, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Still trying to justify the abysmal reporting – if you can call prejudicial statements reporting – that you and your colleagues indulged in? No wonder no one puts much faith in you and your ilk.

Posted by: aelfheld | April 15, 2007, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Sounds to me as if this particular journalist has a wealth envy problem and is mad because the rich white boys didn’t actually rape the poor, lying, black girl.

Posted by: Rod Burnette | April 15, 2007, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Would LOVE to read what you wrote about the OJ ACQUITTAL!!!! Let’s see here…… ‘a black, privileged athelete murdered beautiful white wife and white boyfriend in cold blood…….found innocent by a jury of his peers…..’. I’m sick to death of you and all of the rest of the media who love those ‘rich vs. poor stories’ because the rich are always BAD. (My husband would be considered rich I guess, he worked his way through high school (a painter, grass mower, barber helper), and then through a private college and a private law school, where he kept books for a paint store, was a radio disc-jockey and a policeman. He never owned an automobile until he got out of Law School. So, we are privileged and just don’t deserve it, it just was so easy for us because we just must have robbed a bank or something.(OH, AND WE’RE WHITE!) Your article is the ‘new media/propaganda’ machine that is destroying our country.

Posted by: Lana | April 15, 2007, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Terry Moran, You are certainly an unabashed liberal jerk.

Posted by: Hoffman | April 15, 2007, 9:05 am 9:05 am

This is entirely biased. So what if they could afford good lawyers? Is the injustice any different? Perhaps you should be focusing your ire on the JUSTICE SYSTEM and LAWYERS instead of people who can afford them. If they weren’t OVERPRICED, then EVERYONE would be able to afford this sort of justice.
What is your solution? Free Legal care? Has that worked for health care?

Posted by: Noelle | April 15, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Disney should fire Terry Moran immediately for this garbage! You’re an idiot.

Posted by: M.M. | April 15, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Good god! How can you have such disdain for these kids …if being obnoxious was a crime you would need high prices help as well. Move on, I think you might find something worth wild to discuss

Posted by: geo | April 15, 2007, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Terry:
You display the typical bias of main stream media against white males, especially jocks. Had this same charge been leveled at the Howard University lacrosse team, it would never have made the local papers.
Mike Nifong (1) used a false rape charge made by an unreliable accuser to enflame and exploit race hatred so he would be elected, (2) rigged a photo line up so Crystal Mangum saw only members of the lacrosse team, (3) refused to meet with defense attorneys to discuss alibis, (4) tried to discredit a defense witness, (5) made numerous false public statements concerning the evidence, (6) conspired with a DNA lab to suppress evidence exhonerating the entire lacrosse team.
Does anyone believe that these actions are appropriate for an officer of the court?
The media circus Nifong generated brought in race baiters including Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Malik Shabaaz and his New Black Panther thugs. There were potbanging marches, death threats against the defendents and an ad in the paper signed by 88 faculty members condemned the boys without any factual basis. Media ate it up!
Even though the media, liberal professors, ethnic studies and feminist activists presumed guilt, there was no crime.

Posted by: arch | April 15, 2007, 9:09 am 9:09 am

This is shallow rhetoric by a shallow reporter.
It is frightening that such an important component of American society ( free press ) has been hijacked by such reckless and adolescent interlopers.

Posted by: Ken | April 15, 2007, 9:12 am 9:12 am

OK…just out of curiosity, I counted a small fraction of the responses (150), and out of that 150, 128 denounced your opinion.
that’s 85.3%. This small sample should tell you how wrong you are, and which way the wind is blowing for your next article, since that seems to be how you figure out what your opinion will be. More importantly, this gives me hope that an OVERWHELMING majority of the general public doesn’t seem to be brainwashed by the thought police. I dont normally read anything from ABC, but I couldn’t help taking a peek when I saw the heading of your article “Dont feel too sorry for the Dukies”, wondering what kind of PC mindless dribble you were shoveling at us…as if we need your permission or guidance on how to feel about this travisty of justice.

Posted by: Scott Nielsen | April 15, 2007, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Thank you for this well-argued post!!! Finally, someone voices the sentiments I’ve been feeling for the last week: Yes, it was unfair for these boys to be wrongly accused of rape. But this outrage and abject apologies from the media is simply ridiculous. In the long run, these boys’ lives will not be adversely affected: They will graduate from Duke or another plush private college that their parents can stick them in; they will get cushy jobs in their parents’ corporations or another company with family connections; and in the end, this episode will be that “sad little incident” that was neatly covered up by civil suits and pay-offs.
Meanwhile, thousands of minorities and less privileged are wrongly accused and rarely vindicated every year. They don’t have high-powered lawyers and media connections to get their cases fully investigated. THOSE cases are where the outrage should be directed.
I think this whole storm has exposed the ugly truth that white privilege is alive and well in this country: If 3 white boys are wrongly accused, it becomes a HUGE deal because how dare someone challenge their purity. But if 3 black, Latino, or Asian men were in this situation, I *guarantee* you there wouldn’t be anywhere near this much uproar, even if their families were equally wealthy.
Personally, I think we are at another crossroads in American civil rights history: Just like the first civil rights protesters were lynched and attacked for daring to declare that brown people are equal citizens, so are today’s activists torn apart for their efforts to fight for racial equality. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson certainly have their faults, but calling them terrorists is beyond the pale. They have worked harder than any of us to make America a more equal society, but when you poke the sleeping dragon of socioeconomic and racial inequality, it will burn you to a crisp before letting you kill it for good.

Posted by: heg | April 15, 2007, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Until ABC News fires Terry Moran their entire news organization cannot be believed.
ABC, Disney and ESPN must denounce this hate speech.

Posted by: Susan | April 15, 2007, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Terry,typical garbage blog from a typical lib.Run these kids through the mud and now to cover your a ss for all the nasty things you people said about them ,your saying”nothing to see here folks,move along”….Bad timing especially on the Imus situation..

Posted by: joseph johnson | April 15, 2007, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Your comments coming as they do on the heels of the Imus fiasco only serve to illustrate the reverse discrimination occuring in this nation.
If you had posted a similar opionion about the Rutgers team [Don't feel too sorry for the players"] I think you would be now pursuing another job.
Your commentary gets an F for failing to do just that.

Posted by: Len | April 15, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am

I’ve heard mention that the lacrosse players demeaned women by hiring strippers…true. The strippers, however, were also demeaning women by CHOOSING a DISGUSTING profession. Bad things happened to the lacrosse players…unintended consequences..perhaps this will give pause to those who would demean themselves seeking “entertainment” of this fashion and to those who would demean themselves by supplying it.
The fact remains that 3 young men paid a terrible price for bad–not criminal–behavior. We–as a society–paid a price to have to hear about for over a year. The young men deserve apologies and financial compensation (though this would not be justification for what they and their families went through). The prosecutor and stripper should be dealt with criminally.

Posted by: Laura | April 15, 2007, 9:37 am 9:37 am

I guess I would be considered white and upper-middle class. According to your train of thought, Moran, the fact that I invested everything I have in starting a business, work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week to earn what I have means that I have given up my rights to justice. Apparently, it doesn’t matter that I provide jobs for 4 employees, donate generously to charity and live by the rules. It’s because I’m White and have the means, through hard work, to support my family that makes me unworthy of your sympathy if wronged? Unbelieveable! Just unbelieveable!

Posted by: Candy | April 15, 2007, 9:38 am 9:38 am

were they rich?
do they own large amounts of gold and silver?
or are they rich by the magic of the Fed Reserve money machine that makes wealth out of thin air? if that is how they are rich well wait awhile and the hidden tax of big gov will make them dirt poor then we can feel sorry for them.
rich is being in a position to not have to fork over sweat and tears put into the form of $$$ to the state.
the mafia, those guys are rich and their strippers wouldn’t dare turn them in for anything.

Posted by: Abe Lincoln | April 15, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Assuming you went to college, I seriously doubt your past could withstand the scrutiny that’s been applied to the Duke lacrosse players. It’s obvious to me that you surely didn’t spend a lot of time and effort dedicated to your journalism classes. So just what DID you do in college, Terry?

Posted by: Santini | April 15, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am

some of you people are unbelievable…so when you’re rich it means it’s ok to be unjustly accussed of one of the worst, more primal crimes? Then you go on to say that…hey it happens to a bunch of other people…suck it up…you’re rich???? that’s the worst line of thinking i’ve ever heard. try being accused of rape. when you’re innocent…then come back up here and say if you think there’s no sympathy to the players.

Posted by: nate | April 15, 2007, 9:47 am 9:47 am

With this reasoning we shouldn’t feel sorry for the GIs killed in the Middle East, because there are plenty of locals being killed also, and they don’t have the equipment, training, and backing of the US government that the priviledged US GIs have.
Oh wait, this is ABC, home of Rosie. You probably DO believe that!

Posted by: George | April 15, 2007, 9:48 am 9:48 am

The liberal media has given up all pretense of objectivity. Articles like this and thr ranting of Keith Olbermann are leftist propaganda, not just edititorial commentary.
These biys were railroaded by a left wing opportunist who must be disbarred. Tery Moran tries to put a left wing spin on it. If he had a talk show, fine, but this is supposed to be mainstream news.
The formerly silent majority is now asleep, but will be back.

Posted by: Charlie Fetscher | April 15, 2007, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Truth in advertising demands you change the “a” in your last name to an “o”.
What a jackass!

Posted by: Higins | April 15, 2007, 9:48 am 9:48 am

I’m a journalist myself. Your comments do no credit to my vocation. You are so far off base that you need to be tagged out.

Posted by: J. Farrell | April 15, 2007, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Are you actually a journalist? You clearly have no grasp of judicial ethics or the rule of law. To suggest and bluntly state that these individuals should gain no sympathy from anyone because they happen to be affluent, white, intelligent, etc., is to further permit travesties like they’ve just been through. In your mind, a double standard is OK as long as white kids are the ones being attacked and that helps make up for injustices throughout the system.
Since you admit that injustices exist throughout, should you not write piece attacking the system, which is where the problem lies? If you need any more profesional advice in how to be a better jornalist, just call me first and it will save you from embarrasing yourself again.

Posted by: Marc | April 15, 2007, 9:59 am 9:59 am

This article speaks volumes about Terry Morans hangups and predjudices. Trite ideas abound, and he actually gets paid for this stuff. Damn Drudge for wasting my time. Now i have to print a copy to line Speckles’ litterbox.

Posted by: jim | April 15, 2007, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Thank goodness for the Drudge Report. I also stopped tuning in to what used to be the top news outlets because of “reporters” and editorials like this one. If not for the Drudge Report link, I don’t think there would be as many blog comments clearly condemning such a reprehensible article.

Posted by: Susan Nichols | April 15, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am

No, the media, as usual, got it wrong. The true sorrow must go to woman in general. How difficult it will now be for woman who are being raped and abused my men to accuse them when it is truly warranted. The media has failed the public again and walks away richer for it. Unfortunately the media will not be held accountable.

Posted by: David | April 15, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am

A very transparent attempt by ABC to mitigate their very biased role in Pre-Judging based on race and financial class and to lessen the overall perception of most Americans born in the United States, who are not members of any minority, that the American Justice System if out to get them at every opportunity, while always looking the other way for everyone else no matter what laws they break with the exception of any minority dumb enough to become a conservative and vote accordingly. The media and justice system will rip them apart!

Posted by: Arnold | April 15, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

WoW! I am surprised your comments , and obvious bias, came out so soon after the event.
Generally, left-leaning nuts ] perhaps even an occasional right-leaning one , also], such as you , keep there “powder dry” and try to spin toward their bias well after the event, so as to take appropriate advantage of the simple fact, that time generally fuzzies up peoples’ memories – spinning is a lot easier to do then against a “fuzzy memory”!
The fact that you came out now means two things: 1] you are a rabid ideologue and cannot contain yourself 2] You know you are on the wrong side of the issue, and feel guilty about being so.
You know that you are on the wrong side, my looney friend, and that is what makes you so damn dangerous to us all. You have an agenda and are most willing to ignore the truth to accomplish it – whatever it is!
You are a member of the PRESS, what a great cover for a covert agent, and you use your BULLY PULPIT to advance your case. You do not report the news, you do your level best to MAKE it. Generally, you do a pretty good job. The fact that you are a talented writer has allowed you to also be an effective spin- meister for advocating your agenda. Before this “coming-out articel of yours, all your stories came complete with the Halo Effect which society bestowes upon REAL “journalist”, and withholds from known partisan commentators. Well, you blew it, Mr. Commentator!
I personally thank God that you could not contain yourself, that your personal feelings were so bruised by what happened to the Duke student athletes [ Dukies, the term you use, is an aggresively demeaning word ,as is preppies], that you felt compelled to ACT OUT.
You come-out WAY TO SOON, and in so doing you have exposed yourself to be STEALTHY idologue you actually are. You can never go back to being the REPORTER you were before you outed yourself. Bad for you, perhaps, but great for the rest of us all.
Sal

Posted by: Sal | April 15, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am

What infuriates me is the woman (any woman) that hollers rape when no one laid a finger on her. It makes it that much harder on the poor souls that ARE actually raped, not to mention the man who could possibily go to jail on her word. There’s your crime.

Posted by: molly | April 15, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

I know one person we will not fill sorry for, and that would be you, when you find your sorry ass in the unemployment line!

Posted by: Don Wayne | April 15, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

For all those who say “Don’t feel too sorry for the Dukies”, I say “Hope it happens to you”. Talk to me then.
This was wrong regardless of the class and wealth of the individuals involved.

Posted by: Scott | April 15, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

So, if I understand you correctly, we are not to feel bad for those wrongly accused??? It’s “OK” because other un-named person was also wrongly accused?? This is really no big deal because, you say they used racial comments? Who ever said they used racial comments? Oh, yes that was the one who also accused everone in the room of rape for a mear $800 bucks!
No one should feel bad for them….they are rich, unlike me?
Don’t feel bad for any person’s poor treatment if they have a good lawyer??
Nice article. You pen your own personal justification for your original erronious feelings well.

Posted by: Matt | April 15, 2007, 10:16 am 10:16 am

How very astute of you to point out the inequities of our justice system’s two tier financial capabilities. You talk about the lack of reporting for other prosecutorial misconduct cases that the press has failed to report. You’re a report…go report that stuff instead of trying to make excuses as to why your network tried and convicted those three Duke players without even investigating whether there was decent evidence. So what that they come from the rich elite? And lastly, you’ve never been to a strip club? Ever?

Posted by: Brian | April 15, 2007, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Mr. Moran’s comments make clear his biases against those who are “successful while white.”
His use of the term “priviliged” says it all. I guess he, too, is therefore “privileged”, since he earns a salary likely to be in the top 5% of US citizens.
Mr. Moran – using your logic, false accusations against you or your children will be less deserving of public sympathy solely because of the success you have worked for and earned. Your worldview is frightening.
One more reason to avoid network news broadcasts, if you seek objective journalism.

Posted by: Taz | April 15, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Another liberal reporting the news they WANT to report instead of the truth.
Terry Moran, karma will get you!

Posted by: Mike | April 15, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

MORAN: Is there anything wrong with people who work hard, are conscientious and contribute to our society? There are many “well off” families (black, white, Asian, Arab) who are successful,,, because they chose to make the effort. If you REALLY feel the way you say ,,, DONATE HALF YOUR ASSETS AND INCOME TO THE POOR NOW !!! If you do not, then you prove that you are just a big mouth trying to sell yourself, and do not care about fighting racism. ABC has became pathetic due to folks like you who provoke racism.
PS: If Sharpton and Jackson were REALLY interested in combating racism,,, they would proactively SUPPORT efforts against Nifong. I do not say this sarcastically. I think it would be a very progressive, “color blind” move on their part. Racism exists BOTH WAYS and needs to be eliminated.

Posted by: Frank | April 15, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

I would add only one small point to all the ones above that point out the foolishness of this column.
The Duke case did not get media attention because of prosecutorial misconduct. It got media attention because it played into the media sweetspot (so richly shown by Moran’s column) of rich white kids displaying racist, sexit behavior. The prosecutorial misconduct came second. The fact that the media followed blindly along says more about Moran and the media than the behavior of white kids or an apparently disturbed black woman.

Posted by: Youve Got to Be Kidding | April 15, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am

You really have some nerve writing an article like that. Nice way to stand out from the majority, just to get some publicity. I pray that you don’t really feel this way. It’s almost shameful that you’re a journalist for a respected company like ABC. Now I will definitely be an NBC News fan.

Posted by: Heather | April 15, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

In a time when apologies are demanded to retribute the horrible act of slavery and even the disgusting language of Don Imus, I still have yet to hear anyone demand an apology from the accuser for what she has put these three men through. If we are going to have a standard in this country for public apologies, then the standard should certainly be applied to the accuser in this case, who did an incredible amount of damage to a group of individuals in the same type of public forum that Imus did.

Posted by: Jim | April 15, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

To ABC news: when I see future articles written by Terry Moran, if I read them, I will have a hard time giving any validity to them.

Posted by: Alex | April 15, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Wow… you’re arguing that we shouldn’t feel sorry for a group of people because they aren’t alone in having been mistreated? Maybe we shouldn’t feel sympathy for victims of war, disease, crime or poverty because other people have gone through the same difficulties in the past without our sympathy. Maybe I should ignore all the injustice I see in the world because I’ve already set the precedent of not being there to help EVERY SINGLE VICTIM OF ANYTHING. EVER.

Posted by: Ben | April 15, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Everybody knows.
Everybody knows that the deal is rotten, old black Joe’s still pickin’ cotton for your ribbons and bows…Everybody knows.
Leonard Cohen

Posted by: sa | April 15, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Terry – you got it wrong then and you got it wrong now! Don’t attempt to take the onus off your false and prejudicial reporting by blaming the real victims. Their status symbol you’re so opposed to only allowed them to expose a flawed DA who wanted to be reelected – it doesn not justify your early erroneous printed position. And what a cheap shot to publish Finnerty’s 2005 assault – you’re as bad as Nifong!

Posted by: jmarkt | April 15, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am

terry, you idiot. i hope you don’t really believe what you write.

Posted by: Russ Mill | April 15, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am

The attitude that these guys wouldn’t have been in this position if they had been “good” l’il boys is blaming the victim. Remember that feminist mantra? Women parading around half naked were not responsible for being raped. Women going to a man’s hotel room at 3 in the morning were not responsible for being raped. Same goes for these young men. Let’s not blame the victims! Also, when it was time to fry the lacrosse players, she was “hardworking mother of two, and a Navy veteran, and a honor student”, and now she is just a disturbed women who can’t expected to get the simplest thing straight….wow. I love feminist double standards and double think.

Posted by: Tony Sprout | April 15, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am

I guess to low life lib reporter’s like Terry the Moron if your not a rich Kennedy,or Willy Clinton etc, you don’t deserve to be treated justly.What an azzhole.

Posted by: Frank Endsley | April 15, 2007, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Terry’s article is offensive.
RE: Comments by: Steve | Apr 15, 2007 1:44:52 AM
I don’t appreciate your racist remarks Steve.
Respect is a two way street my friend.
You can’t expect racism to end if you insist on participating in it yourself. Do you understand this concept?
Ok, let me break it down for everyone here:
If the N-word is off limits, then negative remarks against “whitey” are off limits too. Got it?
No more double standards. I have spoken.

Posted by: Bryan | April 15, 2007, 10:46 am 10:46 am

This is amazing… do not feel sorry for these people, is that not like saying “hey it was injustice yeah, but it happens everyday it is alright, plus these guys are rich and white they will be fine.” NO! This is injustice and racist. Injustice in this country against anyone affects everyone, what happened to those young men is wrong and is injustice, just as it would be in all of these other cases black white, mexican, it effects us all. For all you people that think that only the black man or woman or some minority group, are the majority of those that are victims of wrongful prosecutions, I would say that you are living in a fantasy world and are only seeing the facts that you want to see them. And further if you think that only white Duke Lacrosse players with Irish sounding names are the only ones who rent strippers for parties or hurl racial slurs at people, or have brush in’s with thte law in thier youth for battery or whatever else this reporter could dig up to smear these young men, your not just living in a fantsy land you are truly deranged and have no beat on reality. Nice going ABC, nice opinion peice… the reporter who wrote this story is hack, pulling a shameful hit job on these guys, good one. Just like w/ the Rutgers women these men deserve an apology from all of you out there that were ready to bypass the justice system and throw these kids in jail for a rape that was never commited, and further the accuser in thier case and the DA needs to be called exactly what Imus was called racist, sexist and bigoted. You can’t have it one way and not the other.

Posted by: ben | April 15, 2007, 10:46 am 10:46 am

I find the bias of this reporter disgusting. Equal justice means equal treatment, but because of the perceived ‘privileged’ status is the main reason this out of control prosecuter made a case of this. He wanted those boys to be guilty. For a reporter to use the kind of language used in this article, only supports the kind of bias that exists in the media across this country. Used to be people were proud to achieve, now it’s looked down upon with disdain.

Posted by: wayne | April 15, 2007, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Your disappointment and bitterness that your preconceived notion of what happened that night turned out to be false is palpable and I am sure completely sincere. However, what is equally clear is that you are incapable of being an objective reporter of news, given as you are, to approaching stories with a preconceived template. I am confident, however, that the intellectually incestuous gang that you work with all feel the same way so that there is no real hope that this episode will result in any improvement in the fairness or accuracy of your publication. You are no different than the rednecks bigots who always assume that the black man is guilty. I’ll bet many of them sincerely believe that they’re right as well.

Posted by: Kevin | April 15, 2007, 10:47 am 10:47 am

I keep getting surprised at what some reporter will print to get attention. Terry you should be ashamed of yourself.
Your article is much worse than anything Don Imus said, and you should lose your job for it.

Posted by: J Cooper | April 15, 2007, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Your oh so predictable article brings the following thoughts to mind:
1. Was one of the many sperm samples in and on the criminal that was the accuser in this case from you? I ask that because of the empathy you have for her.
2. Yes, Terry the young women on the Rutgers team are vastly differently situated from the Dukies. They are youing black and white women going to a prestigious
university and not young white men going to a prestigious university.
Other than that you have no idea what the differences are.
3. As Bugs Bunny once said “You thir are a Moron!”. Start spelling your name correctly.

Posted by: DaveB | April 15, 2007, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Wow. That is the most irresponsible article that I have ever read. I can only assume that they encourage you to write that kind of crap because if not, you should be fired for it.

Posted by: Brian St.Clair | April 15, 2007, 10:50 am 10:50 am

WOW Terry. Three days in a row and you’re still in the hot seat on this one.
Please, please, please… show the world that you stand behind what you say and RESIGN IN DISGUST.
You’ll feel better about it in the morning…

Posted by: David | April 15, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am

I am a successful military officer. In my college days, I occasionally went to “gentleman’s clubs” for the stray bachelor party. Does that now mean that it would have been okay for me to have been falsely accused of something I did not do? Along with the false accusations, as you perfectly illustrate, come a lifelong persecution of “oh, didn’t he rape someone?”
You live in an ivory tower and have no concept of the real world. But, that’s what I expect from today’s liberal media elite. I can only hope that one day you’ll be falsely accused of a heinous crime and then someone writes a story of all of your shortcomings (ever been intoxicated? taken illegal drugs? had a one night stand? etc).
You sicken me.
Regards,
LTC Smith

Posted by: LTC J Smith | April 15, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am

The writer is dead on. Abuse of power like this happens all over the country every day to people who cannot defend themselves against it. Are the masses jumping up and down about the injustice of it all? Hardly.
Many people have spent years of their life in prison for crimes they didn’t commit and are later found to be inncocent. Are they compensated for the years of their life they loose? No, sovergien immunity kicks in and if they are lucky they might get a, “we’re sorry” and a, “and don’t let us catch you at being up to something, like running your mouth as to how mistreated you were or you might find youself on a return trip back to us”.
If we’re going to be indignent about the abusses of the criminal justice system, of which there are many, let’s be indignent across the board, not just when some rich white kids get caught up in it.

Posted by: Dale | April 15, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am

I’m trying to control my temper and be polite. You are an IDB: Intellectually Dishonest Buffoon.
I personally feel sorry for you. To have the thought processes that you have indicate that you are one sick ‘toon.
Don’t feel sorry for three men who’s lives have been disrupted and nearly ruined? Because their white?
Please take your elitist liberal guilt and your basketball and go home!

Posted by: KobeClan | April 15, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am

You are a sick and perverted person who does not disserve to live in the United States. They are victims!!! It’s like looking at a rape victim and finding out she had less than an upstanding life and therefore does not disserve any compassion and may have even disserved what she got. Though you are typical of the media you only see things in terms or classes and the class warfare you try to incite.

Posted by: DT | April 15, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Terry,
Thanks to folks like you I don’t really care any more about what happens to blacks or any other minority when it comes to slurs or fairness in the media because I know that you folks could care less if I was getting a raw deal being whie so Its better them than me. I thought whites and republicans were supposed to be the divisive ones. This article proves the double standanrd. There have been no marches against Terry, no owners of racism like the Sharptons of the world just those white people were put down. Thanks again Terry.
Joe
Portland

Posted by: Joe | April 15, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Racism is alive and well; to be happy at the injuries received and the fortunes spent by the young men’s families prove this!!!
Because one doesn’t receive justice, none should (or at least it should be expensive) is racism!!!

Posted by: Mike Waldron | April 15, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Your oh so predictable article brings the following thoughts to mind:
1. Was one of the many sperm samples in and on the criminal that was the accuser in this case from you? I ask that because of the empathy you have for her.
2. Yes, Terry the young women on the Rutgers team are vastly differently situated from the Dukies. They are youing black and white women going to a prestigious
university and not young white men going to a prestigious university.
Other than that you have no idea what the differences are.
3. As Bugs Bunny once said “You thir are a Maroon!”. Start spelling your name correctly.

Posted by: DaveB | April 15, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am

So, a few 20ish college boys think it would be fun to hire strippers and this is the punishment Terry Moron thinks they deserve? Has he ever been to a strip club I wonder, or bachelor party with paid entertainment? The boys clearly made a bad choice but to have their names drug through the dirt with false accusations that will last a long time with all of the publicity should not be the punishment. The parents paid dearly to try and get them defended from this conniving woman trying to capitalize on their lack of judgment. This woman who had the DNA of MANY men in her after that night, but none of the Duke boys DNA. This was not just extra pocket change the parents had lying around it hurt them financially. Nifong should be hung and the woman should be put in jail for false accusations. Terry should be fired.

Posted by: kim | April 15, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Terry needs to visit the Holocaust museum. He has no core values that would prevent one. He could run propaganda for the Nazis. I can’t believe Mr. Moran won the Thurgood Marshall award and he thinks that the falsely accused should be subject to more ridicule. Coming from a relatively successful family, means that you in some way deserve this?
Mr Moran, please! ,see a psychoanalyst. I know you are a good person who said a bad thing. They all say that. Stop it,stop writing, you are in denial.Stay home. Get treatment. You can be helped.

Posted by: Gordon | April 15, 2007, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Nadine is a rascist.
And the DC prosecutor’s office is full of hypocracy, too. Upon learning of these allegations on ABC, the DC prosecutors pulled Colin Finnerty’s assault case off of the “inactive” list and prosecuted him because he “broke his agreement” to stay out of trouble. Yet another example of the horrible effects that these FALSE accusations wrought.
You need to RESIGN, Moran.

Posted by: Jim | April 15, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am

I can not believe what I just read. You and your Liberal friends are a terrible cancer in this world.

Posted by: Frank | April 15, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Terry Moron is quick to point out the elitism and priviledges of a Duke student.
Tuition at Duke this year (room and board included) is $45121.
Terry M. graduated from Lawrence University in Wisconsin, a private school with tuition this year at $37,663. This schools is predominantly white, enrollment 1400.
Sound a little “elitist” like, say Duke?

Posted by: Kyle | April 15, 2007, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Terry Moron is quick to point out the elitism and priviledges of a Duke student.
Tuition at Duke this year (room and board included) is $45121.
Terry M. graduated from Lawrence University in Wisconsin, a private school with tuition this year at $37,663. This schools is predominantly white, enrollment 1400.
Sound a little “elitist” like, say Duke?

Posted by: Kyle | April 15, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am

obviously not enough money is being spent on public education in important areas of sensitivity training if there had been those guys wouldn’t have grown up to be stripper patrons. Treating women as sex objects that’s so 1950′s.
More money needs to be spent on enforcing affirmative action laws so that african american women are given no choice but to degrade themselves in those kinds of jobs.
More money needs to be spent in breaking the glass ceiling created by men so that all women yellow, black and white won’t even have to consider pole dancing as an option to a sustainable income.
it’s true that 500 billion dollars is spent on public education everyyear that compulsory laws allow all children to freely attend 12 whole years of education it’s true that people can become doctors in that amount of time but it’s only half a truth
the other half is hidden in the conservative dittohead rhetoric of the rightwing press.
it’s true that 500 billion dollars a year is alot of money it’s also true that one trillion dollars is what is needed.

Posted by: Democrat | April 15, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Your comments were idiotic at best and slanderous at worst. So because these “boys” made some mistakes, they deserved to have their reputations ruined?
NO ONE should be wrongly accused and tried in the media, no matter their color or financial situation.

Posted by: JB | April 15, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Terry Moran: privileged, well-heeled, well-connected, rich, middle-aged white guy.
On the surface, not much different than a “Dukie”, just older. Not quite as old as an Imus. But nevertheless also spewing words to be noticed.
The pen can often be wielded much more efficiently than the knife for beheading those whom we want to belittle. And you so obviously wanted the the final outcome to be much different. Your spite is showing.

Posted by: B Surfer | April 15, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Moran,
Is being a member of the white upper class a crime?
What about OJ Simpson. He was actually guilty and got off because he was rich….and black.
you are an idiot!

Posted by: Jax Hardaway | April 15, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

“And, MOST IMPORTANT, there are many, many cases of prosecutorial misconduct across our country every year. The media covers few, if any, of these cases. Most of the victims in these cases are poor or minority Americans–or both. ”
So Moran points this out. Is he going to do anything about it? Can we expect to hear more news stories in his tenure at ABC News about some of these poor, minority (or both) Americans who were victimized by prosecution misconduct? Or will Moran simply continue to do what the rest of the media does… ignore them?

Posted by: h0mi | April 15, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Congrats, You made a name for yourself,
Jerk, dummy, racist, dope, knucklehead and oblivious. I’m sure there are many others

Posted by: Tom | April 15, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

I don’t know where you straight white males get the strength to go on, you poor, poor things. This is, by far, the most measured and accurate account of this whole sordid story that I’ve read. Most posters simply have what I call “white shock” over this whole thing. Wrongful prosecution and the set up in the American justice system are a way of life for minorities. I don’t support anyone going to jail for the wrong reasons, but these jocks had a substantial step up over most defendants, and most of you posters are not acknowledging that. Expensive lawyers and being white in this country buys you a lot of leeway. Few of these posters would be so quick to defend these jock a-holes (the aren’t darlings, people) if the colors were swapped around, everyone on here would be blaming rap or Al Sharpton. I hope they do let this pack of idiots sue the DA- it’d set leagal presedent and everytime some slipsod setup sends someone to deathrow and DNA gets them off the defendants will have legal recourse…

Posted by: Cisco | April 15, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

obviously not enough money is being spent on public education in important areas of sensitivity training if there had been those guys wouldn’t have grown up to be stripper patrons. Treating women as sex objects that’s so 1950′s.
More money needs to be spent on enforcing affirmative action laws so that african american women are given no choice but to degrade themselves in those kinds of jobs.
More money needs to be spent in breaking the glass ceiling created by men so that all women yellow, black and white won’t even have to consider pole dancing as an option to a sustainable income.
it’s true that 500 billion dollars is spent on public education everyyear that compulsory laws allow all children to freely attend 12 whole years of education it’s true that people can become doctors in that amount of time but it’s only half a truth
the other half is hidden in the conservative dittohead rhetoric of the rightwing press.
that 500 billion dollars a year is alot of money for all youth to get a headstart with the other half making up the whole truth is that one trillion dollars a year is what is really needed.

Posted by: Democrat | April 15, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am

I think that these young men should get an apology from The Rhyming Reverand Al Sharpton because he bashed these guys. Now that they have been proving innocent, where is he saying he is sorry? If Imus had to say he was sorry(which he should have), then Al should also.

Posted by: David | April 15, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am

This article is reprehensible. Your obvious class envy could never justify what these guys have been through.
Wild parties in college? Stop the presses, they must be rich little Hitlers in the making.
Strippers? You mean college boys like to watch naked chicks dance? Who knew?
Racial epithets? I bet all of us have said things at a wild party we wouldn’t want plastered all over the front page news. And I don’t think calling someone a name justifies an accusation of rape, which will follow the accused forever, and makes it harder for real victims of real crimes to come forward.
C’mon, let’s face it. Your argument boils down to “omg they’re rich, wtf? They can afford it.”
I can’t say you’re a bad journalist, because this is pure opinion. But I hope to hell you never have to go through what these guys went through.

Posted by: Melissa | April 15, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I don’t know where you straight white males get the strength to go on, you poor, poor things. This is, by far, the most measured and accurate account of this whole sordid story that I’ve read. Most posters simply have what I call “white shock” over this whole thing. Wrongful prosecution and the set up in the American justice system are a way of life for minorities. I don’t support anyone going to jail for the wrong reasons, but these jocks had a substantial step up over most defendants, and most of you posters are not acknowledging that. Expensive lawyers and being white in this country buys you a lot of leeway. Few of these posters would be so quick to defend these jock a-holes (the aren’t darlings, people) if the colors were swapped around, everyone on here would be blaming rap or Al Sharpton. I hope they do let this pack of idiots sue the DA- it’d set leagal presedent and everytime some slipsod setup sends someone to deathrow and DNA gets them off the defendants will have legal recourse…

Posted by: Cisco | April 15, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am

This article is reprehensible. Your obvious class envy could never justify what these guys have been through.
Wild parties in college? Stop the presses, they must be rich little Hitlers in the making.
Strippers? You mean college boys like to watch naked chicks dance? Who knew?
Racial epithets? I bet all of us have said things at a wild party we wouldn’t want plastered all over the front page news. And I don’t think calling someone a name justifies an accusation of rape, which will follow the accused forever, and makes it harder for real victims of real crimes to come forward.
C’mon, let’s face it. Your argument boils down to “omg they’re rich, wtf? They can afford it.”
I can’t say you’re a bad journalist, because this is pure opinion. But I hope to hell you never have to go through what these guys went through.

Posted by: Melissa | April 15, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am

pex, NC

Posted by: Joe Connors | April 15, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

pex, NC

Posted by: Joe Connors | April 15, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

obviously not enough money is being spent on public education in important areas such as sensitivity training if there had been then those guys wouldn’t have grown up to be stripper patrons. Treating women as sex objects why that’s so backwards 1950′s and shows how far our children have been left behind.
it’s true that 500 billion dollars is spent on public education everyyear that compulsory laws allow all children to freely attend 12 whole years of education it’s true that people can become doctors in that amount of time but it’s only half a truth
the other half is hidden in the conservative dittohead rhetoric of the rightwing press.
that 500 billion dollars a year is alot of money for all youth to get a headstart with is true but the other half making up the whole truth is that one trillion dollars a year is what is really and desperately needed.

Posted by: Democrat | April 15, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Tess I Guess wrote:
“Of course they are the biggest hypocrites around, because in an earlier case involving a supposed rape victim, there wasn’t even exonerating DNA evidence, only the woman’s word against a white male, they don’t let that stop them from accusing Bill Clinton of rape”
Tess…pull out a dictionary; if there had been “exonerating DNA” then that would have proven Bill Clinton innocent.
At least this “victim” had her accusations investigated…nobody investigated the rape accusation against Clinton BECAUSE of his privileged position.

Posted by: Patrick Moore | April 15, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Josh, I understand your sentiments enirely. This stupidity should be stopped. But I disagree totally on the way you want to get rid of Maroons like this one. Fighting racism with racism (like quotas) just doesn’t work, and demanding this fool be fired is applying the same bigotry that Sharpton et al have been using for years.
This type of dogmatism when successful has far reaching implications for the future…its pretty much the end of free speech.
Do you really want to live in a world where if someone doesn’y like what you say they can get you fired??? I sure don’t.

Posted by: DaveB | April 15, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Dale writes…..
“If we’re going to be indignent about the abusses of the criminal justice system, of which there are many, let’s be indignent across the board, not just when some rich white kids get caught up in it.”
Totally ignornant, as one would expect from a liberal elitist wannabe. These “rich white kids” as you put it were trashed by the left wing media for over a year. Would you care to point out other such cases that made national headlines for over a year where there was no mass sympathy given to the real victims involved (aka: the Duke Lacross players).
I’ll sit back and wait a few years for you to come up with an answer to that. You libs cry about the guy who was released after spending 20 years in jail for a crime he did not commit. That was a tragedy in itself. But was the person involved repeatedly the subject of trashing by the MSM for all those years? Well there was sympathy for that man if you bothered to look for news outside the MSM. It came and it went, just like the longevity of the story itself.
I thought the liberal mantra was caring and compassion. So because every story we never hear (because your MSM media can’t cash in on it) where the victim’s don’t get a chance at a mass outpouring of sympathy, we, by your and Moran’s words, should not give sympathy to anybody, especially since these were “rich white kids”.
What would you say if the race was reversed and the Duke kids accused were “rich black kids”? What you show up here and make this same statement? Of course you wouldn’t because if you are white that would defy your liberal guilt feelings. If you are not white, your statement just showed you for the racist you are. Again, liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Posted by: Chris | April 15, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Thank you, Josh
I’m sending you an email now.

Posted by: Susan Nichols | April 15, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Well, Terry, now we know your motivation – Jealousy – Why wouldn’t someone who went to Lawrence U (Where the hell is that?) would be envious of guys who have the brains and resources to go to Duke University.
Good luck on your class warfare agenda. You seem to be totally dedicated to it.

Posted by: TB | April 15, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

See what happens when the media jumps in front of a bus to save a poor Black stripper from educated rich white boys?
It makes the racial divide even worse.
The knee jerk reaction from the Black community, not to mention The New Black Panthers, Reverends Jesssseee Jackson and Sharpton, and others made me sick.
I hope the young men from Duke sue the hell out of everyone, including the media, who slandered them so they’ll never have to work another day in their lives.
Strippers…give me a break! Imus should have been talking about these strippers, not a reputable female college basketball team. The word “Ho” would apply.

Posted by: vicki | April 15, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Democrat, you can’t increase sexual images in this country though movies, TV, and popular music; defend the smut peddlers, tell young ladies that they should feel free to express their sexuality, and then at the same time expect young boys to grow up and not treat young women as sexual objects…no matter how much “sensitivity” indoctrination you force on them

Posted by: Patrick Moore | April 15, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Just as someone should not feel especially sorry for them because they’re rich and white, people also shouldn’t feel as though they deserved to go through a bad situation simply because they’re rich and white and they therefore deserved a “taste of what African Americans go through”.
Nobody deserves to suffer for something they didn’t do. Nobody. And injustice to someone who happens to share the same skin color as those who have historically been the oppressors in our country is NEVER something that should be considered a good thing or something they deserve.
By that logic, the government should randomly select a rich white American and simply throw them in prison as payment for past wrongs against minorities.
There’s no way to justify things that are just flat-out WRONG. And when you start thinking that injustice here or there can help alleviate a past injustice, you’re reducing yourself to a barbaric mentality.

Posted by: Nathan Caldwell | April 15, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Al Sharpton is as bad as this guy! Hypocrites who think that the slur “rich white boys” is ok but not “nappy headed ho”!

Posted by: Napster | April 15, 2007, 11:43 am 11:43 am

For all those attacking this piece as “liberal crap”- There are plenty of REAL conservatives and others who are not left-liberals who agree.
A lot of the phony conservatives and partisan hacks who are outraged at the treatment of these white men NEVER get outraged over a case like that of a James Giles. Typically the Hannitys and Oreillys,etc of the world think that “criminals” are always guilty and always deserve it.
They also ALWAYS bring out the “shouldn’t be in the wrong place at the wrong time” or “she deserved it” cards. When ever an innocent minority is wrongly accused, these pin heads look for any excuse to demonize the innocent.
Be real, a lot of the outrage from white people is deeply rooted in race and class. Where was your outrage over James Giles, Tulia, Hearne,etc?
If you read the news, almost EVERY day someone is a victim of an overzealous prosecutor, murdered by SWAT in wrong address raids, framed by corrupt police,etc. But to most of the white phony conservatives, the State is always right to use force against innocents. Except when its a bunch of white guys.
Signed,
A True White Male Conservative who isn’t blinded by race.

Posted by: Greg C. | April 15, 2007, 11:43 am 11:43 am

How can anyone write this article? They’re innocent, then they’re innocent.
For the guy who wrote under me, you must be as ignorant as the author of this horrid article. You think it it right to prosecute and cause trouble to 3 random white males, just so they “get a taste” of what it feels like to be discriminated against? You are discriminating.
Stupid article, with no point. Two thumbs down, and all of my fingers and toes…

Posted by: Jesus | April 15, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am

This is the dumbest article I perhaps have ever read. I wonder what would have happened if it was black men being accused of this crime when the dancers were white. I guess we would have seen Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson all over TV. Also I just love the fact that they were privileged to have high price attorneys. Nice privilege, do you realize dumb ass, that one of the parents had gone into foreclosure because of the legal fees. This guy is an idiot who wrote this article…

Posted by: David | April 15, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Terry,
Concerning the racial epithets, the other stripper told Ed Bradley in a 60 Minutes interview that she called the “Dukies” “little dick white boys” during said incident, after which they both chuckled. Perhaps in your unwavering zeal for justice that morsel of fact was not conveniently dumped in your lap. Maybe, just maybe, this invited some in kind retort?

Posted by: Steve | April 15, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am

For all those attacking this piece as “liberal crap”- There are plenty of REAL conservatives and others who are not left-liberals who agree.
A lot of the phony conservatives and partisan hacks who are outraged at the treatment of these white men NEVER get outraged over a case like that of a James Giles. Typically the Hannitys and Oreillys,etc of the world think that “criminals” are always guilty and always deserve it.
They also ALWAYS bring out the “shouldn’t be in the wrong place at the wrong time” or “she deserved it” cards. When ever an innocent minority is wrongly accused, these pin heads look for any excuse to demonize the innocent.
Be real, a lot of the outrage from white people is deeply rooted in race and class. Where was your outrage over James Giles, Tulia, Hearne,etc?
If you read the news, almost EVERY day someone is a victim of an overzealous prosecutor, murdered by SWAT in wrong address raids, framed by corrupt police,etc. But to most of the white phony conservatives, the State is always right to use force against innocents. Except when its a bunch of white guys.
Signed,
A True White Male Conservative who isn’t blinded by race.

Posted by: Greg C. | April 15, 2007, 11:45 am 11:45 am

DaveB,
Yes, it is the right thing to call for this writer to be fired. He deserves to be fired. Any news media that hires him deserves to loose subscribers and advertisers. Free speech also means the freedom to experience the consequences of that free speech.

Posted by: Susan Nichols | April 15, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

You are the very definition of dumbass. You complain that the “Dukies” got “unfair” coverage that other victims of prosecutorial misconduct didn’t get, and this is why we shouldn’t feel sorry for them? Why do you think they got it in the first place? Could it be because YOU and other members of the media made it a circus event? Don’t you think they would have preferred to have gotten no coverage for being accused of a rape they did not commit? You are a mindless piece of garbage

Posted by: bob billings | April 15, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am

I hope Terry Moran is wrongly accused of rape, wrongly convicted, and wrongfully raped to death in prison. I hope he bleeds to death from a massive anal hemmroage on the floor of a rat infested prison cell.

Posted by: Frank White | April 15, 2007, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Thanks Terry — if we (collectively) were doing our job we’d have a lot more stories like this. I’ve seen a half dozen cases with prosecutorial misconduct at least as severe as Nifong’s, but absent the perfect storm of race, class, and sex, all of them were local stories.

Posted by: Aidian | April 15, 2007, 11:57 am 11:57 am

It’s time to “Swift Boat” Terry Moran since ABC has failed to take action to dismiss this hate-monger. Somebody must have some dirt on this guy. Especially from his college years. He must have said something racist or sublime or perhaps at some point he engaged in risque behavior such being around girls, porno, or strippers?

Posted by: Oliver White | April 15, 2007, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

What in the heck? Not enough sensitivity training in schools?
How about morals training? How about prayer in schools? How about all the things we USED to have in schools that supported moral values that liberals have managed to get dropped from public school curriculums??? In the liberal agenda to “PC” our American school system we have been forced to drop many of the values oriented teachings that we desperately need more than ever now in this country! It’s not about how many more dollars that we need in education, it’s where we need to spend those dollars just as much. Making schools safer and providing some sort of real guideposts for our single parent, latch-key kids generation that don’t get nearly enough teaching in morals and ethics any more. Of course what they learn in schools now is that morals and ethics are subjective and “if it feels good, do it” … and maybe someone slips ‘em a condom so they can feel good and PC about their programs.
As to the issue of reversal of race in this case? Oh Please! I believed Kobe Bryant was probably innocent or at the very least set up and it was repulsive to watch that whole spectacle on TV. I am always just as outraged REGARDLESS of race when I see injustice occur. Why do you people ASSUME that it’s simply because they are white that people are outraged. It’s the liberal media that played this up and up and up ad naseum for over a year. Race was what sold the story for them — they thought. What made MOST people interested in this story is the in your face way it was presented and the racially charged way others went about this case from the onset. For MOST people the race had nothing to do with their disgust … it’s far more about … if it happened to them it could happen to you — white, black, hispanic or asian. And that is the true injustice.
I wouldn’t argue that it’s a new reality for people of color because statistically it’s not. It’s a reality people of color have lived with for a long time. But the issue isn’t how many white people are offended because it happened to white boys … the issue is … how to we make the most of this exposure to make sure it doesn’t happen to ANYONE else?
Focusing on the race issue only divides and will keep everyone impotent from finding and exacting real measures to prevent these kinds of injustices.

Posted by: Caroline | April 15, 2007, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Don’t Feel Sorry? They are not much different from the students attending the schools here in Boston. Walk down any Boston Neighborhood lived in by College students here and see FAR WORSE things..these men were kicked out of school, their team was disbanded..which punished All other Team Members. These young men offered DNA, records and Information that was IGNORED..they didn’t call lawyers they went down to be questioned willingly! They never spoke ill of their accuser, they merely denied the accusation. Once again it was the Media that went on the attack…just as they chased the Rutger’s basketball players on their Easter with their families! Imus called these girls disgusting names and they were QUICKLY cleared and treated with HONOR and RESPECT! These boys spent over a Year going through hell, their families as well…HAVE THEY DISBANDED THE MINN. FOOTBALL TEAM BECAUSE OF AN ACCUSATIION AGAINST SOME OF THEIR PLAYERS? Have the Professors at their school come out against them? Have they been followed around by “social” groups calling them Hitler and Calling for their trials and convictions..? Oh, guess not..they are off the news and out of the Media’s eyes! This prosecutor in North Carolina did more damage to prosecutors BY USING HIS POWER IN AN UNETHICAL WAY, HIDING EVEIDENCE, CALLING MEDIA CONFERENCES EVERY DAY AND ALL THAT TO JUST BE ELECTED! He sold his soul by using these La Crosse players as his Vote Getters! And here the Elite media doesn’t want us to feel sorry for the wrongly accused because they are rich? GUESS WHAT ..I DOUBT THEY WILL EVER RECOUP THE MONEY THEY SPENT DEFENDING THEMSELVES..AND SINCE THEY HAD THE MEANS I DIDN’T SEE THE ACLU STANDING UP FOR THEM..WHERE WAS THE INNOCENCE PROJECT? No, these groups do not help most people who are wrongly accused..and there for the Rich Boy’s just won’t be so Rich..and have no way to recover their losses, nor do the other Team members who lost their season to play! A lot of folks were hurt in this one and I Hope Mr. Elit Media Moran gets on the ball up in Minn. and covers that STORY with the same ZEAL he and his buddies did this one!

Posted by: Underfrad | April 15, 2007, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Susan Nichols (and Josh)
No, it is not the right thing to do; it is stooping to their level. Be better than that. Demanding his firing is hurtful to this nation and everyones right to free speech. Do something positive about it rather than something that is hurtful to all.
There is many ways to fight this dogmatism and not harm free speech.
I haven’t watched network news since the biggest liberal weinie of all (Walter Cronkite) was on the air. Looking at the arbitron ratings recently shows that this ‘passive resistance’ is working, though maybe not as quickly as one would hope.
If you want to be more proactive than that write letters to his employer and their sponsers that do not demand his firing but voice your concerns.
You really don’t want to lose the freedom of speech which is where we are rapidly heading.

Posted by: DaveB | April 15, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

“If you read the news, almost EVERY day someone is a victim of an overzealous prosecutor, murdered by SWAT in wrong address raids, framed by corrupt police,etc. But to most of the white phony conservatives, the State is always right to use force against innocents. Except when its a bunch of white guys.
Signed,
A True White Male Conservative who isn’t blinded by race.”
You are as much a Conservative as Hillary is. Only a lib would use ridiculous prattle as you did in you post. The news is not filled with stories of what you said, especially on a daily basis. How in the world can you make up such a lie like that? Oh yeah, because you a lib, pretending to be a Conservative.
You also made this statement which exposes you as a liar.
“Typically the Hannitys and Oreillys,etc of the world think that “criminals” are always guilty and always deserve it.”
Hannity and O’Reilly do not act like that and do not talk like that. If you listened to their shows, even on a semi-regular basis” then as a Conservative you would never make up pure BS like that. But as a guilt-ridden lib, you feel obliged to slander those that do share your political/social views. Rather than debate, you slander as you post showed so transparently.
I would say nice try, but your attempt was so weak it’s not even worth further rebuttle.

Posted by: Chris | April 15, 2007, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

ABC needs to fire this guy.

Posted by: Gary | April 15, 2007, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

I tried to keep away from this discussion for a while but need to get it off my chest so there are few points that I have to make:
1. Scooter Libby mixed up couple of dates about the two years old events and went to jail for it because it was done under oath. The black striper (who Don Imus should of commented about) continually lied in her sworn affidavits and it looks like she will not be prosecuted. So don’t tell me that justice is still blind.
2. Don Imus insulted black basketball team and got fired. Terry moron and a bunch of other so called ‘reporters’ continually slandered and insulted three white kids and will be keeping their jobs. I am sure of it.
3. Advice to all white frat boys: if you must have strippers at the party-why don’t you get white girls, this way if anything happens at least the color factor will be out of the equation. You also would be doing a great service to the local black community because unemployed black stripers may find a more productive profession and will get to hell off the welfare. It also will cut down on the photo opps for Sharpton, Jackson, black panthers, and others of their ilk, so we will not be forced to see their ugly faces and listen to their racists bulls-t as often as we are forced to now.
4. And last but not the least: Terry you sly! You did it again: the tempers are flaring, the ratings are up and it doesn’t matter who gets insulted or upset, you and your employer will still rip the benefits and you’ll still have a job. Or may be I was wrong this time????

Posted by: Michael | April 15, 2007, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Wow! I can’t say I’m surprised but the bottom line is that it’s okay if some rich white kid gets “effed” over by the government. It only matters if you can’t fight back? Just one example of what is wrong with today’s journalistas. There are different rules for different people. Objectively exposing abuses by government should be their charge….but it isn’t.

Posted by: Craig | April 15, 2007, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

You are slime.

Posted by: mde | April 15, 2007, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Another self-important, psuedo-celebrity who thinks that he is beyond rapproach.
Perhaps a little jealous of a Duke education? We’re sorry that your junior college didn’t prepare you for your career.

Posted by: ricky | April 15, 2007, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

These young men are out millions of dollars for doing nothing illegal, just being the victims of a racist judicial system in North Carolina. This case and now this article is just another case of being able to smear affluent while males in this country without fear of racism charges by a secular progressive media. Bringing the wealthy down is part of the socialist and entitlement vision of the country being shoved down the throats of regular Americans. It is this and the other oh about 10,000 or so “articles” a day by the secular progressive media that we just have to watch out for. Apologists for bad behavior(i.e. false criminal charges that costs innocent people millions of dollars) are ruining this country because it logically breeds more bad behavior. That quick “list” of why the Duke players do not deserve sympathy is so weak any rational,logical, and moral person just has to laugh and laugh and laugh at it. The one thing for certain about reporters, the have to keep writing SOMETHING or else they will get fired. This is about as something as it gets.

Posted by: Sean Cleary | April 15, 2007, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

I tried to keep away from this discussion for a while but need to get something off my chest fast. So there are few points that I have to make:
1. Scooter Libby mixed up couple of dates about the two years old events and went to jail for it because it was done under oath. The black striper (who Don Imus should off commented about) continually perjured herself in her sworn affidavits and it looks like she will not be prosecuted. So don’t tell me that justice is still blind.
2. Don Imus insulted black basketball team and got fired. Terry moron and a bunch of other so called ‘reporters’ continually slandered and insulted three white kids and will be keeping their jobs. I am sure of it.
3. Advice to all white frat boys: if you must have strippers at your party-why don’t you get white girls, this way if anything happens at least the color factor will be out of the equation. You also would be doing a great service for the local black community because unemployed black stripers may find a more productive profession and will get to hell off welfare. It also will cut the photo opps for Sharpton, Jackson, black panthers, and others of their ilk, so we will not be forced to see their ugly faces and listen to their racist bulls-t as often as we are forced to now.
4. And last but not least: Terry you sly! You did it again: the tempers are flaring, the ratings are up and it doesn’t matter who gets insulted or upset, you and your employer will still rip the benefits and you’ll still have a job. Or may be I am wrong this time????

Posted by: Michael | April 15, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

So what, they hired strippers. That’s gotta be the journalistic red herring of the year.
As far as their hiring expensive attorneys and getting more justice than others – they have come out and said the very same thing themselves. Don’t hate them because their parents were successful enough in life to spend probably a huge portion of their life savings protecting their kids. You would do the same.

Posted by: Chris | April 15, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

You are right on. I have always told my children to avoid compromising and controversial situations. If they don’t and have to deal with the “system” expect dire consequences. These Duke guys want no consequences for their risky behavior.

Posted by: juanjose | April 15, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

I certainly think all falsely accused white rich kids should be locked up and get the maximum sentence to account for all their mistakes. What a load….

Posted by: John W | April 15, 2007, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

It sounds like the author wishes the Duke players had been charged and found guilty. They may be jerks in real life but they were wrongfully charged and will deal with this stigma for sometime to come.

Posted by: Tim | April 15, 2007, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Moran seems to suffer from econ envy. So the guys from Duke can claim elite parentage. So what? They didn’t buy their way into Duke. Compare the university’s SATs with any state school. The bottom of the range at Duke is usually at or near the top at the other schools, whether you’re looking at Verbals or Math. Getting in there takes brains, not bucks. And, as Moran suggests, their battle with Nifong could well establish the principle throughout the court system that prosecutors are NOT infallible.

Posted by: Robert Mounts | April 15, 2007, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

There is only one thing to be said about this article…liberalism IS a mental disorder.

Posted by: BH | April 15, 2007, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

when you look beyond the superficical race aspects you’ll find what the common denominator sp? is.
all of those boys were raised by heterosexual parents or at least are the products of sex between a male and female.
the psychological damage could have been alleviated somewhat if there had been at least a 30 something year age difference between the parents thank Secular Goodness that these age gap relations are becoming more common and less taboo, the other aid is the prolif uh prolifeeeer uh ation??? of same sex coupling.

Posted by: government skewl teacher | April 15, 2007, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot. If you go to Duke, your entitled. BS, I have several friends from the USMC who through tooth and nail, applications out the arse etc etc. attend Dunke University. Does this now make them pre-destined for Senatorship etc?? As for the requesting of white girls to dance for them, is there a black man on this board who does not neccesarily prefer a black woman over a white one? For a Chinese a Chinese. I mean let’s be real. As for the racial slur, it’s unforgivable, but with that being said, has no one a comment on the fact that one of the girls stated “short dick WHITE BOY” oh yeah, I forgot, if your a minority, you can hurle that without remorse. My bad. These guys were railroaded by an overzealous prosecutor with a 47% black community. Shocker! A guy going after his votes….that would be a first. Young men in their prime having a stripper over?? Wow, again crazy stuff. If it’s so bad, why is it legal to hire them? Just food for thought.

Posted by: Tom | April 15, 2007, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

when you look beyond the superficical race aspects you’ll find what the common denominator sp? is.
all of those boys were raised by heterosexual parents or at least are the products of sex between a male and female.
the psychological damage could have been alleviated somewhat if there had been at least a 30 something year age difference between the parents thank Secular Goodness that these age gap relations are becoming more common and less taboo, the other aid is the prolif uh prolifeeeer uh ation??? of same sex coupling.

Posted by: government skewl teacher | April 15, 2007, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot. If you go to Duke, your entitled. BS, I have several friends from the USMC who through tooth and nail, applications out the arse etc etc. attend Dunke University. Does this now make them pre-destined for Senatorship etc?? As for the requesting of white girls to dance for them, is there a black man on this board who does not neccesarily prefer a black woman over a white one? For a Chinese a Chinese. I mean let’s be real. As for the racial slur, it’s unforgivable, but with that being said, has no one a comment on the fact that one of the girls stated “short dick WHITE BOY” oh yeah, I forgot, if your a minority, you can hurle that without remorse. My bad. These guys were railroaded by an overzealous prosecutor with a 47% black community. Shocker! A guy going after his votes….that would be a first. Young men in their prime having a stripper over?? Wow, again crazy stuff. If it’s so bad, why is it legal to hire them? Just food for thought.

Posted by: Tom | April 15, 2007, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Dear terry
Sorry my parents are white. I am sorry they also worked hard to provide me with a good life. I’m sorry I go to college and am trying to make something of myself. I’m sorry that I dont convict people based on their race or social economic background. I’m sorry I don’t run around screaming about what society owes me, I want to make my own way in life. Most of all I’m sorry people like you are still allowed to spew your venom.
The average white kid

Posted by: tom | April 15, 2007, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Mr. Moran,
Your perspective is simply wrong. The only story here is of a District Attorney who manufactured false charges based on complete lies/fantasies. The race and resources of the accused and accuser are secondary to the fact that this DA committed malpractice at best and a felony at worst.
The only issue (and hence the only story) is about prosecutorial misconduct. Making this into a debate about rich vs. poor/white vs. black intentionally clouds the serious issue of injustice within our legal system. Instead of focusing on that in order to help prevent further wrongs against all people of all color, you’ve simply perpetuated an “us vs. them” attitude of inevitability while doing nothing to address real inequities within the system. You did nothing to address how the problems could be fixed and nothing to advance a solution.
In short, you could have done better.

Posted by: Rick | April 15, 2007, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

ABC provides this comment section for feedback… I wonder why they don’t ever seems to read it and make adjustments to their “news” staff?

Posted by: RAP | April 15, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Is there any doubt folks why ABC News is on the decline?

Posted by: Jason | April 15, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

For those of you playing the “boys will be boys” card, would you allow one of these “upstanding” young men date your daughter – these men who get their rocks off hurling racial slurs at strippers?
Furthermore, as to their being rich and that being somehow a reflection on their hard work … please! Maybe their parents worked hard … maybe, but these boys did nothing to get to where they were but climb out of their momma’s womb and allow their lives to be shaped by the opportunities afforded them by their station. And what do they do with it? Degrade women, taint the reputation of a great university, and participate in psychopathic, sexual deviant behavior. Yeah, poor guys …

Posted by: T. Smith | April 15, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Couldn’t agree more, Terry.

Posted by: Norma | April 15, 2007, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

I love how right wing white commentators come to the defense of underage drinking, racial epithet using, privileged white boys hiring strippers, one of which was engaged in a gay bashing incident in Washington DC. And then to continue the idiocy of their right wing fringe arguments, simply deny that the black white issues that are genuinely present in our criminal justice system simply don’t exist. They accuse Jackson and Sharpton for condemning the morally reprehensible actions of entire Duke lacrosse team of racism. Yet the fact that the Innocence project provides factual data of injustice vistied upon minorities, these same family value proclaiming hypocrites dismiss this data.
This and Imus affair put together show the desperate need to address race in this country. Just read the blog comments alone and it feels like 1950.

Posted by: Jared Hautamaki | April 15, 2007, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Please note that the “Rick” who posted on Apr 15, 2007 at 12:27:43 PM is not the same “Rick” who has made numerous other posts.

Posted by: Not That Rick | April 15, 2007, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

ABC News should learn a valuable lesson from this blog and the responses. Injustice in America, regardless of race, strikes a nerve. Prosecutorial misconduct is COMMON. I am white, but had my entire life destroyed and my family, business, and career ruined by a prosecutor who knew that I was completely innocent! The Press did not come to my aid, and I have received sympathy only from those who know me personally or were insiders. The intended purpose for the Fourth Estate is to protect citizens from idiots like Nifong. Moran should be directing his efforts in that direction. By his own admission, the Press has been derelict in their duties! The outpouring of response here shows that people are very concerned about this issue. The Duke lacrosse case may therefore serve a valuable purpose in refocusing the Press toward the proper priorities. Yes, being falsely accused is a horrible experience (I know), but it is even worse to be wrongfully convicted and condemned….and then to be ignored and forgotten. We must be outraged by the DAs who destroy innocent people for political gain, and…by the reporters who stand by and let it happen.

Posted by: ray | April 15, 2007, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Its no secret that law enforcement in college towns goes after students. It makes the locals think they’re doing their job. It also reduces the likelyhood of the DA having to deal with the accidentally arresting a major campaign contributor or family member.
The most remarkable thing about this story is that the hack prosecutor actually got taken down. As for the lacrosse players, they’re the wrong posterboys for a fight against prosecutorial misconduct. After all even though there was no rape, they apparently did something to upset a woman who gets sexually harassed for a living.

Posted by: Qik | April 15, 2007, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

This article only exacerbates the problem the author tries to focus on. Plenty of people are wrongly accused and suffer under prosecutorial misconduct all the time. Yet he writes about the Duke Lacrosse Players and gives it a racial and class-based spin.
If you mean what you say, be a responsible member of the media and write about those subjected to prosecutorial misconduct, whoever they are, whereevery they are! This article is self-serving and inconsistent with the point it “tries” to make. Fix the problem, don’t just complain about it while taking advantage of the problem as well.
Evidently, critical thinking is not taught at most colleges anymore and if it is, it is not sinking in. This author is the perfect example of that!

Posted by: Richard | April 15, 2007, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

First Terry, thanks for the article. For those who didn’t know, James Giles wasn’t merely falsely accused, but he spent 10 yrs. in prison for a rape he didn’t commit. As did the following:
James Giles — 10 yrs.
James Waller — 10yrs.
Kevin Byrd — 12 yrs.
A. B. Butler — 17 yrs.
Willie Williams — 21 yrs.
Robert Clark — 23 yrs.
All Black; all falsely accused; all falsely convicted; all exonerated.
The message here keeps getting clouded and skewed. No one’s asking for injustice to exist anywhere. Or for outrage to only exist because the recipients are Black or underprivileged. Whether convicted, or accused. Whether Black or White. The message should be that the outrage be consistent.
Unfortunately, African Americans only hear the outcry of injustice when there are White Americans falsely accused. If there is outrage over the Duke Lacrosse players for being accused let there be equal outrage for the James Giles’ of America.
By the way media coverage shouldn’t dictate outrage.

Posted by: Joseph Smith | April 15, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Mr. Farnsworthy…… Have you ever studied “The Peter Principal”?

Posted by: MD | April 15, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Hey! I have seen young women hire male strippers for their parties – frat, bachelorette, etc. They have shouted names at them of a sexual nature, even while drinking… you get the idea.
Are they “not innocent”, too?
Shoe: meet other foot.

Posted by: newton | April 15, 2007, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

By the way Moran what Imus said wasn’t racist a “nappy headed ho” could be any race.

Posted by: Randy | April 15, 2007, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Well, if there’s one person I do feel sorry for it is Terry Moran. It must be terrible being so trapped in a worldview that judges people by the color of their skin and their affluence that one loses all sense of justice, proportionality, and perspective.
Terry, I hope you get better.

Posted by: John E | April 15, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

So people who agree with Moron believe the players “asked for it” because of their loose morals and character or the comprising situation they put themselves in–just like a woman who gets raped? She/They should know better, those whores.
You people scare me.

Posted by: Jo | April 15, 2007, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Its no secret that law enforcement in college towns goes after students. It makes the locals think they’re doing their job. It also reduces the likelyhood of the DA having to deal with the accidental arrest a major campaign contributor.
The most remarkable thing about this story is that the political hack actually got taken down. As for the lacrosse players, they’re the wrong posterboys for a fight against prosecutorial misconduct. There was no rape, but they apparently did something to upset a woman who gets sexually harassed for a living.

Posted by: Billy | April 15, 2007, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

How about spending a few segments on the
scum Duke faculty and graduate students that
lead a lynch mob against these young men.
These people are JUST AS BAD AS THE KLAN
as far as I am concerned. No you would rather
continue the attack on the young men. I hope
they sue the stupid DA and most of all I hope
they sue Duke, the professors, and graduate
students that behaved so poorly. How about
dismantling the stupid “feminist studies” program as a way to atone for the school’s
behavior. Alumni CAN take action to fix this
by withholding money until those who
lead the lynch mob are FIRED and DISMISSED.

Posted by: Al | April 15, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Excuse me. Professor Farnsworthy…. Have you ever studied the Peter Principle?

Posted by: MD | April 15, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Barnyard Bill, these guys are guilty of ideological crimes for which there can be no defense. Poor black female and affluent white males. The academic left exists in an Alice-In-Wonderland world. They think you and I are as F’d up as we think they are. Don’t fight it unless you’re content to have all your points dismissed out of hand and called names.

Posted by: Sean Smith | April 15, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Dear Hacks,
I really must now retire, for I am in Asia on research and it’s well past my bedtime. But please, please do me this honor while I rest in blissful dreams – please continue to relate Moran with moron. Please do me that favor, for it is the height of wit. And everybody is Very impressed (who would have ever put those two together! Only a genius!).
Anyhoo, the debate is about rich guys and a black ho. All guilty in my eyes. Mr. Moran’s point is that these are not dewey love kissed angel boys. Take the point. No one is “innocent” in this affair. Let it go now. Walk away. Put down the hammer. Go back to the Fox channel, or wherever you are all from, and pretend the republicans have done a good job at the helm of America. The rest of us will pay the bills for the next few decades. Thanks Mr. Bush.
Professor Farnsworthy

Posted by: Professor Farnsworthy | April 15, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

After reading many of the post in response to this article, I am shocked by what I consider to be just appalling assumptions about these players and their behavior and what they deserved. So these guys paid for a bunch of strippers, what does that mean? We think that it is okay for them to be accused for rape because of it? I would bet some serious cash that Terry Moran has either been to a party that had strippers or at least attended a strip club at some point in his life, and that other members of this message board have done things that could have led to their lives being destroyed had they been the subject of false allegations.
Also after reviewing some of the posts it seems that some people think it is okay to destroy the lives of rich “white” people to try and balance out past and recent injustices done to African-Americans. How stupid is this logic? It was the same case with O.J. Simpson, when the murder of a white woman was okay because hey you “whites had it coming”. African-Americans should get upset whenever they see injustice even when it happens to white people and vice versa.
It seems that the New American Paradigm tries to destroy rich white people in an effort to make up for past injustices and to just have a good old “PC” time of things. For the record, it is the rich whites that carry the liberal guilt that props up the NAACP, ACLU, and MoveOn.org type organization. African-American’s might want to be nicer to them.

Posted by: Will McHugh | April 15, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Why is this ‘reporter’ on a payrole?

Posted by: Larry | April 15, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

anyone going to prosecute underage drinking? Buying alcohol for minors? Whose credit card purchased the two hours of services from the exotic escort service leading to delinquency? Oh, that’s right, these laws don’t matter or apply…because….these “boys” (who are old enough to serve in the military instaed of chasing balls down a field) were just “being boys” & they have suffered sooo much…that’s not how laws are supposed to be applied or justice meted out, at least not in my ivy leaugue experience. These “boys” who have been exonerated of accusations (a real rarity)now need to be prosecuted with the photo documentation of their illegal drinking – or should that only be reserved for others in society? How about that “boy” who penned that missive detailing his wish to flail a stripper & skin one alive? He’s also one of the future pillars of society – nice Catholic boys – yeah sure -if it was all so OK they should have had their girlfriends performing for them. The wealth is not the issue – it’s the guttery behavior that is the issue. The wealth simply pulls them out of the world of consequences.

Posted by: stormy | April 15, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

regarding terry moran
the notion that we should not feel sorry for them because (a) they hired strippers and (b) their families have money is so moronic it does not even require a response. terry moran is a moron. case closed. there doesn’t even have to be a discussion about it. unless he just wrote that moronic screed in order to provoke right-minded people. or to call attention to himself as a devil’s advocate.
by the way, has anyone dug into the financial records of the players’ families? is it even a fact that they have lots of money, or are we just assuming that since they go to duke, they therefore are wealthy. that is a pretty huge jump to make. i am sure even duke has at least some students who come from regular, hard-working middle class families. but even if they are wealthy, why does terry moron hold that against them? is he jealous? what a hypocrite. what a disgrace.

Posted by: daniel | April 15, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Do US schools teach critical thinking anymore or is it all ideology and identity politics? As the illustrious professor farnsworthy unironically points out above, these three guys are guilty whether they committed the rape or not. At least he’s honest. The point is, if you want to disparage the character of the three players who were charged, then you must make credible accusations against them, not their teammates.

Posted by: Sean Smith | April 15, 2007, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Dear Terry MORON,
You are a true JACKAS@ — and a DISGRACE to all Irish-Americans.
F’ YOU!

Posted by: MORON | April 15, 2007, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Terry Moran never once mentions Christ, but this reeks of sublimated Christianity at its sickest. The Beatitudes gone awry. All post-Christian societies are sick sick sick, because they’ve pushed the dark nihilistic side of Christianity into the unconscious, and out of it springs this truly perverted morality, indistinguishable from suicide. The hideous freakshow of American life…

Posted by: nietzsche | April 15, 2007, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

The only difference between the Duke Three and the Rutgers Basketball Team is that they were both singled out for attack by Liberal Democrats because they were convenient targets. Unlike Imus, though, Nifong had the power of the State behind him and was going to send three innocent men to prison because the larger pension he was in line for once elected was worth more to him than doing the right thing.

Posted by: Mike | April 15, 2007, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Terry Moran never once mentions Christ, but this reeks of sublimated Christianity at its sickest. The Beatitudes gone awry. All post-Christian societies are sick sick sick, because they’ve pushed the dark nihilistic side of Christianity into the unconscious, and out of it springs this truly perverted morality, indistinguishable from suicide. The hideous freakshow of American life…

Posted by: nietzsche | April 15, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Terry, your comments clearly show how biased you are as a journalist. You mention that the players can get on with their “priveleged” lives. Do you know for a fact that just because they are Duke students that they are “priveleged”? They were not so priveledged when they were made out to be evil rapist by those in the media and the likes of Jesse Jackson. And when will someone in the media ask Jesse Jackson if he plans on apologizing for the comments he made about these young men? You complain that their case is getting all this attention because they are white “priveleged” Duke students. Their case is only getting this media attention about prosecutorial misconduct now only because they received a large amount and undue media attention earlier when they were wrongly accused.

Posted by: Jay | April 15, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Duke Lacrosse: Very Good MSNBC Article

MSNBC the station might be useless these days, but MSNBC the website is still pretty good, and they prove it with an article entitled What Really Happened That Night At Duke, throught their Newsweek affiliation. Its a long one, but wel…

Posted by: Pirate's Cove | April 15, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

I think even Nietzsche couldn’t have prophesied this. This is slave morality on steroids!

Posted by: Sean Smith | April 15, 2007, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Who really got the special treatment here? Did you mention that their accuser, who is black, is a stripper, had several men’s DNA (no Duke Lacrosse player’s either)on her, was falling down drunk, had falsely accused others of rape in the past, lied repeatedly and changed her story over and over got off scott free? And she didn’t have to spend one dime on “high-priced” attorneys. Do you think she’ll have to apologize over and over again to the Duke Lacrosse Team?

Posted by: Think about it | April 15, 2007, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Speaking of Jesse Jackson, I recall when this case first started and the facts were vague, Jackson was condemning the lacrosse team as racists, publicly comparing them to slave-masters, because they had asked for black strippers. Now they’re being condemned as racists for requesting white strippers. The point being, these three guys were racist, and the facts will be made to fit the assertion, even if they don’t.

Posted by: Sean Smith | April 15, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

So what you are really saying is that justice in America doesn’t apply to anyone with wealth or a “privileged” college education.
(Was the loss of the Duke coach’s job “justice”?)
Your definition of justice is scary….

Posted by: Heather | April 15, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

MORAN = MORON
Nothing more really need be said.

Posted by: Jay | April 15, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

The credibility of a reporter lies in the neutrality of the report. Once editorializing begins, the reporter diminishes himself/herself in the eyes of the viewer. Your article certainly accomplished that. I am an ABC News watcher, and thank goodness you no longer are covering the White House because I would be unable to take any report of yours seriously.
Secondly, whereas an editor who writes an editorial for a newspaper reflects that paper’s viewpoint, I can only assume that since you are an ABC employee, writing on the abcnews.com website, you reflect that network’s position. I so strongly disagree with your article that I am rethinking my viewing preference.

Posted by: Disgusted | April 15, 2007, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

ABC you should follow the lead of NBC and CBS in the Imus situation and fire this moronic reporter named Moran.

Posted by: Doug | April 15, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Wow, Terry. Just can’t let go of “the story that was too good to be true.” You probably thought it was your ticket to multiple Pulitizers, your own show, god knows what.
Ordinarily, I’d feel sorry for someone who was stupid enough to write such a classless, spiteful little blog entry as this one. But, using your own logic, I shouldn’t feel sorry for you because there surely is a bigger idiot out there who is more deserving of my sympathy. Like Mike Nifong, maybe?

Posted by: al gore | April 15, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Let me follow the logic?
Many men are falsely accussed of rape but only those non-white and poor deserve our sympathy?
Another brilliant conclussion from the theory of class warfare.
de-humanize the white and rich
And that is suppossed to carry us into what sort of world?
One where only the white suffer injustice perhaps?
Yeah; we are all better off by making sure that a color blind society is made utterly impossible.

Posted by: None Orubuisness | April 15, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

May you someday personally experience your definition of justice…

Posted by: Heather | April 15, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Terry:
I think you’re jealous because you STILL can’t afford $800 strippers!
God you are pathetic. I don’t know how you can even stand to be you, but I guess people can get used to anything.
Take off the ideological blinders, and try seeing the world as it is, not how you think it’s supposed to be.

Posted by: Me | April 15, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Terry,
Why don’t you just go enslave yourself and quit writing these stupid articles? But remember where slavery started.

Posted by: Not guilty | April 15, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

I don’t recall ABC News giving the vindication of James Giles even a fraction of the air-time they spent vilifying the accused Duke students. You talk about inequities in the justice system. How about ABC News’ inequity in reporting?

Posted by: Are You Criticizing ABC News | April 15, 2007, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Here’s a note;
Bob Zelnick, Professor of Journalism at Cornell and 21 year reporter for ABC news, just called Terry Moran a “neo-Marxist” for his comments in this article (on Fox Studio B).
Nice going Terry :-P

Posted by: Terry in Michigan | April 15, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Terry Moran, you complete jerk. No, we shouldn’t feel sorry for them because the DA wasn’t actually able to railroad them. He was only able to get them kicked out of school, lose jobs, get them put on the cover of Newsweek unjustly, have slurs hurled at them like “dead man walking”, and faced 30 years of jail time. Yeah, they got off easy.
YOU JERK.
Anyone who agrees with you has some serious mental problems.
What a loser you are, Terry Moran. As with most media types, you are jealous of anyone who you perceive to be “above” others in society, and you want to bring them down. You should be outraged at what Nifong did – instead, you continue the media effort to try and bring down anyone perceived to be
“above the average”. You hope everyone above the average would be destroyed, so that below-average people like yourself – who don’t actually do anything, but simply report on the things that others do – would feel like no one is better.
You’re a loser, Terry Moran, and you always will be. That’s why you wrote this article.
Just know that the Duke players have support because they were innocent, and they always will. You will be off Nightline in a few years and your career will fully reside in the loserdom that it should. And I won’t feel sorry for you.

Posted by: Jeff Given | April 15, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Fifty years from now when you “google” the names of these three innocenmt men there will be at least a million hits and every one of them will have the words “Duke,” “lacrosse” and “rape” in the first sentence. Is that justice?
They have been branded for life with Nifong’s criminal behavior.
Is that justice?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson | April 15, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

PLEASE!!!!!!!!! You self serving sack of rotted potato(es). Speaking of a life of priviledge. Terry, you may need to look in a mirror.
fRED

Posted by: fRed | April 15, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Hope u go through the same life distroying tragety so that you can be lucky to have a high priced lawyer and that some idiot reporter should’t have to feel bad for you.

Posted by: Jack | April 15, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

The first time I saw you I knew something was wrong with you. Now I know.

Posted by: fOXlOVER | April 15, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Nobody deserves to be falsely accused of rape. No matter how much money they had, or how much worse this incident would have affected other people (e.g., poor minorities), we are not wrong to “feel too sorry” for these three young men. This article is the worst sort of jealousy imaginable- three innocent men almost have their lives ruined (and are treated by the media like criminals), but it’s all OK because their parents have money. If you think this is anything but jealousy, you’re fooling yourself.

Posted by: Tom R. | April 15, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

The bottmon line is the young men in this case were victimized becuse of thier place in society. By the accuser, and by the media, who say it as an opportunity to raise race/class unrest. Why should that same status not be able to grant them redemption with as much fanfare as they were besmirched with?

Posted by: Kendra Woods | April 15, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

This guy is out of touch! You have Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson in Durham calling them guilty and the new Black Panther Party leader Shabazz wanted a mob lynching.

Posted by: Robert Walsh | April 15, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Moran, as I read your stupid comm-
ents, I wondered if your name is not misspelled. Most who let all their stupidity hang out for all the world to see are called Morons. I’m convinced that this spelling of your name would be much more fitting. Incidently,you said the conduct of the Lacrosse team was not admirable on the night of the incident…I was un-aware that you attended the party that night. If that’s the case, perhaps you can tell us more of what happened in the house that night. I just thank God the three accused had the resorces to defend
themselves,thereby escaping many long years in prison for something
they did not do! What a Moron you are, Moran! Ian Tycer

Posted by: Ian Tycer | April 15, 2007, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Idiot!

Posted by: Jeff | April 15, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

If the accused were rich black male athletes you would NEVER say that.
You talk of the Duke players morality, but are you so racist that you don’t expect more from this young lady? You see, you Liberals are really the racist ones. You always see status and race. Why is there no criticism of this lady and the job she was doing? Not paying taxes (don’t you want more taxes paid?), all cash and likely illegal activity.
White males in this country are scorned by people like you.
This case not only shows how prosecuting crimes is a game everywhere now. It’s not about the truth, it’s about strategy and winning. The story that will never be written here is the fact that a lower class black female could never be questioned against the evil white males in today’s society.
And the hypocracy by you, the rich white reporter guy who has a job a black man could have had if it weren’t for your white dominance of the system. <—-That's the same argument you just made about these boys. Why don't you show us what a great Liberal you are and let a black man take your position? Or are you the only white rich guy who deserves his status in life and the rest are just racist pigs?
You're a DISGRACE and so is ABC News!

Posted by: Poor White Guy | April 15, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Terry – you got it wrong THEN and you got it wrong NOW! Don’t attempt to take the onus off your false and prejudicial reporting by blaming the real victims. Their status symbol you’re so opposed to only allowed them to expose a flawed DA who wanted to be reelected and a liberal press that is flailing- it does not justify your early erroneously printed position. And what a cheap shot to publish Finnerty’s 2005 assault – you’re as bad as Nifong!

Posted by: jmarkt | April 15, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

ahem, “typo alert”
terry MORON

Posted by: JQ | April 15, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Farnsworthy, you’re too good to be believed. This is some kind of shtick, right? The over-the-top condescension. The leftist cliches. You’re really an intern at the Weekly Standard. Admit it!

Posted by: Sean Smith | April 15, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Terry,
You are just another in a long line of liberal, elitist journalists who thinks America cares about your views. I have no doubt people like you will go after Rush and Laura Ingraham next, since your audience size doesn’t compare to theirs and they speak the truth.
Thank God for FOX News. You just reminded me why I haven’t watched network news in a decade.

Posted by: Missourian | April 15, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Yep–I remember that OJ Simpson was a monority that didn’t get justice. You damn right he didn’t get justice. He should be in the slammer right now or worse. How are you going to play the race card on this one? I am sick of it. Everything is about race.

Posted by: Ruckus | April 15, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

You are kidding aren’t you, a possible 35 years in prison and thousands of dollars spent on defense because of an out of control former district attorney is watching you call receiving special privileges.
Tell Al Sharpton that he is receiving special privileges, since he is black and see what his response is.

Posted by: buzzard | April 15, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

You’re point about the Duke team not being angels is well taken. The inconsistency is that when the tables are turned, say a girl behaving badly and then being raped and someone makes the same point they are considered to be ‘blaming the victim’ I wonder if you will make the same point the next time that happens. It happens a lot after all. I suspect you will not. That would anger the feminists. The boys are still innocent, angels or not and that still should carry some weight.

Posted by: brian | April 15, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

This makes no sense. Say if Terry Moran was at a party with his ‘life partner’, and they all got drunk, and in the morning when they all awoke another gay male there accused Terry Moran of rapeing him the night before. Would all the homosexulas there at the party say Terry Moran deserved it because he was white, and got paid more than black people, and his great great great great great great great great grandfather was never a slave? Of course not. If Terry Moran and his gay lover were accused of rape by another homosexual guy, even if he was an ‘unwillingly displaced African American documented worker’, Terry Moran and his gay lover would surely hire an attorney, they may even get their pantie in a bunch…I mean, c’mon people.

Posted by: Christian | April 15, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

One has to be a newswriter to blythly annihilate common sense and reason so casually the way Terry Moron?Moran does. Not to single him out though, the vast majority of his colleagues read, think and speak upside down and backwards. It’s the result of decades of Marxist brainwashing.

Posted by: So Cal Mike | April 15, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

I think these white liberal guys try to show how liberal they are so no one notices they are white. They’re afraid Al NotSoSharpton will start picketing them and try to replace them with a minority.
That’s why they keep writing stupid comments like this!

Posted by: Federalist | April 15, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

This was a no brainer from the very start. You can parade all the emotional garbage you can muster and it still reads innocent. It does serve to show how unfair we can be when we allow our emotions to rule the day. “Hang em high” we don’t need any evidence. They were priveledged white boys, that’s enough for me. Al Sharpton, where are you now, Oh yeah on another crusade, this time it’s Imus, go get em AL you righteous hypocrite. As for Terry Moran, he’s just another liberal hack.

Posted by: Kondor26 | April 15, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Short and sweet, your a pompouse self appreciating moron. You know nothing about those boys, yet you use your post to rip them. Your a sad man. I feel sorry for you.

Posted by: kraig | April 15, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Who is this guy Terry Moron?
He has no problem with innocent men getting accused of something as long as they’re rich enough to pay for a defense.
What a MORON!

Posted by: Scott | April 15, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

“This guy is out of touch! You have Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson in Durham calling them guilty and the new Black Panther Party leader Shabazz wanted a mob lynching.
Posted by: Robert Walsh | Apr 15, 2007 3:47:19 PM”
Uhh, Robert? Have you ever been to Durham?
Neither Sharpton nor Jackson came to Durham at all to talk about this case. And Shabazz? Who’s he?

Posted by: barry ragin | April 15, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

I thought the class warfare propaganda ended with the fall of the Soviet Union, but ABC News is has taken up the cause with their telling us to have no pity for people who have successful parents and are white males. The concept of “fair” is alien at ABC News.

Posted by: stuart | April 15, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Funny.
This moron of a reporter mentions people wrongly accused and says that it is because of the color of their skin. I wonder why he never mentioned that OTHER RAPE CASE AT DUKE. The one where a white girl accused a black man of rape at a black fraternity house.
I say wait for the facts to come out before making a decision (unlike the counless number of reporters, reporters like Moran who still want to see these innocent students shamed, who rushed to judgment.)
I feel sorry for anyone wrongfuly accused no matter what the color of their skin, Terry Moran obviously does not. Wrongfully accused and white, “That’s Fine, theyll get over it” Wrongfuly accused and black “Oh the humanity!” Terry is probably just upset because he found out the rap DID NOT occur. It probably would have made his biased feelings more vindicated

Posted by: Kevin | April 15, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Terry: Yes, lets make legal reparations as well as financial even though all the original slaveholders and slaves are now long dead. Reparations will certainly rectify everything. In fact lets turn everything around. Lets jail all the innocent people and let all the guilty go free, that should bring order to the cosmos.

Posted by: Jim | April 15, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Before today, I didn’t know who Terry Moran was (although I did know who Reade Seligmann, Colin Finnerty and David Evans were – even Crystal Gail Mangum). After today, I will never forget. And I will never watch.

Posted by: Linda Ross | April 15, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Yes, I feel for these young men, because we have a media that is salivating for 1/10th point in ratings increase – the politician prosecutor looking for the case giving him national recognition. A pack of folks I will not label looking for the next so-called racial occurrence to grab as a platform to denounce injustices that were imposed on their so-called forefathers, prior to my ancestors immigrating to this country, yet they want to harp on me.
What did the team do to deserve the consequences of this activity because of statements made by the lying stripper, whose lying history was found out quite early on in the investigation, yet the law enforcers buckled to the threat of the race card pushers. When in fact this was nothing more than a lie; the opportunist saw a chance for recognition and seized the moment. All the team really wanted to do was have a few beers see a couple naked girls cavort around on the floor and let their imaginations run wild for a short period of time. What they got was the “Nightmare ON Elm Street” for the next couple of years.
1. Illegal – NO
2. Admirable – NO
3. Will They do this again – NO, I hope
• They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers. (Not illegal)
• Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper. (Not illegal)
• During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers. (Not Proved beyond a reasonable doubt – but not illegal though)
• Colin Finnerty, was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005. (Noting to do with this case – most teenage males have been in at least one confrontation – in the old days it would not have required anything other than a “Station Adjustment” something that does not happen any longer because it does not feed the legal system much needed funds to keep the judges and lawyers on the pay-roll )
Regardless the young men; were wrongly accused – wrongly prosecuted – and luckily; the charges fell apart before their lives were forever destroyed.

Posted by: Richard MacCarthy | April 15, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong might be having second thoughts about his choice of using the accusations against certain members of the Duke Lacrosse team by Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum for his political advantage. Here is a quick synopsis of the facts as pieced together by yours truly;
First, on the night 0f March 13th, 2006, Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum was hired for her expertise in the nappy headed hoe department by members of the Duke University Men’s Lacrosse team. Personally I think it would have added a whole new twist to everything if it had been the Duke University Women’s Lacrosse team but I digress.
Second, on March 14th, Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum files a complaint with the police saying she was raped. Being the feminist that I am, I understand that no matter how nappy the hair or how big the hoe, NO MEANS NO!
Third, on March the 24th, investigators take DNA samples from 46 of the 47 lacrosse players. Being an avid fan of C.S.I., I know that we all have different DNA and if those nasty boys on the team were doing the nasty with Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum, there would be certain, let us say, bodily fluids containing those dirty boy’s DNA. Case closed, end of story. Not so fast my sexually obsessed comrades.
Fourth, April 10th, defense attorneys say DNA evidence fails to connect the lacrosse players to the alleged victim and her alleged rape. If the DNA don’t fit you must acquit, right? Nope, we shall press on, nothing will stop the doer of right and the fighter of wrong, district attorney Mista Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong.
A quick note; during all this time, stuff is going on behind the scenes. The Duke president suspended the lacrosse team from play, the lacrosse coach resigned and on April 15th, “The Rev. Jesse Jackson said his Rainbow/PUSH Coalition would pay the college tuition of a black woman (Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum) who alleged white members of the Duke University lacrosse team raped her”, this according to Fox news. The plot thickens.
Fifth, April 17th, the grand jury meets to hear Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong’s evidence. At this point, considering there really is no evidence to prove that these young men did anything wrong, but only the word of Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum and because of her continuing “evolving” story, wouldn’t you think a group of intelligent, perceptive, fair minded citizens would drop any sort of charges? Unless all these folks sit on their front porches in rockers, playing banjo’s and drinking moon shine (am I stereotyping southerners?), then they should have pulled an Atticus Finch and stood up for the falsely accused. For those of you not familiar with Atticus Finch, he was the attorney in the book “To Kill a Mockingbird” written by Harper Lee. He was hired to defend a black man in the Deep South who was accused of raping a white woman in the 1940’s. It was later made into a movie staring Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch. It is my favorite movie of all time and I give it two thumbs up and would make it three if I had another hand.
Sixth, April 18th, “Two Duke University lacrosse players were arrested early Tuesday on charges of rape, sexual offense and kidnapping, and the Durham prosecutor hopes to charge a third person in the case”, this according to Fox news. “ATTENTION: The lynch mob has assembled; all those falsely accused please report for hanging!”
So, from March 14th until April 18th, with a media circus just adding to the mix, three totally innocent young men were facing years in prison. I say they are “innocent”, not “not guilty” because these are the words of North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper. In a strong statement just short of saying Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong may have done something criminal, AG Cooper totally exonerated the three lacrosse players and called Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum a liar. Those aren’t his exact words but they are pretty close.
According to news reports, Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong pushed this investigation for one reason and one reason only; politics. What I have gleaned is that Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong was given advice to the effect that he needed to be elected to one more term as district attorney to get his full pension and benefits package. So, Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong decided his personal comfort in the twilight of his life was far more important than those of three spoiled white college boys. His constituents were mostly black and he figured if he could show his homies just how down he was in protecting the dignity of even the most nappy headed of hoes, they would all just vote for his lily white ass and keep the narcissistic, self centered, selfish and may I say felonious Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong in his position as district attorney. He should be gutted.
Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong isn’t alone in this. There are Duke Professors who signed petitions against these young men. There are black leaders who owe apologies for slandering these three men and there are students who in the name of political correctness protested against them too.
Last night as the Red Sox were losing, a friend posed the question that if Don Imus must apologize to the Rutgers girls basketball team for calling them names , shouldn’t the reverend Jesse Jackson have to apologize to the Duke players for what he did to them? What is worse, being called a name or having to live for a year with what those young men had to live with?
Those Duke Lacrosse players were being persecuted and prosecuted by a man with the power to take their lives, their very existence and put them into a living hell. We are all given one life to live and Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong was willing to destroy three lives so he could live his comfortably. I need to see moral outrage against this man. I need to see a system that will take a person like Mike “Busta Crime” Nifong and put him away for a long time. He was voted into an office and given a public trust that he violated and he did it knowingly, premeditatedly and for personal gain. This is tantamount to attempted first degree murder and should be prosecuted as such.
As for Crystal Gale “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” Mangum, her life is already a living hell.

Posted by: sam minervino | April 15, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Yes, I feel for these young men, because we have a media that is salivating for 1/10th point in ratings increase – the politician prosecutor looking for the case giving him national recognition. A pack of folks I will not label looking for the next so-called racial occurrence to grab as a platform to denounce injustices that were imposed on their so-called forefathers, prior to my ancestors immigrating to this country, yet they want to harp on me.
What did the team do to deserve the consequences of this activity because of statements made by the lying stripper, whose lying history was found out quite early on in the investigation, yet the law enforcers buckled to the threat of the race card pushers. When in fact this was nothing more than a lie; the opportunist saw a chance for recognition and seized the moment. All the team really wanted to do was have a few beers see a couple naked girls cavort around on the floor and let their imaginations run wild for a short period of time. What they got was the “Nightmare ON Elm Street” for the next couple of years.
1. Illegal – NO
2. Admirable – NO
3. Will They do this again – NO, I hope
• They were part of a team that collected $800 to purchase the time of two strippers. (Not illegal)
• Their team specifically requested at least one white stripper. (Not illegal)
• During the incident, racial epithets were hurled at the strippers. (Not Proved beyond a reasonable doubt – but not illegal though)
• Colin Finnerty, was charged with assault in Washington, DC, in 2005. (Noting to do with this case – most teenage males have been in at least one confrontation – in the old days it would not have required anything other than a “Station Adjustment” something that does not happen any longer because it does not feed the legal system much needed funds to keep the judges and lawyers on the pay-roll )
Regardless the young men; were wrongly accused – wrongly prosecuted – and luckily; the charges fell apart before their lives were forever destroyed.

Posted by: Richard MacCarthy | April 15, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

I hope you know where to get a semi truck to haul away the rest of the fertilizer you write. I have never read a bigger load of elitist propaganda I’ve ever read. To compare the false prosecution of the Duke students to the racial slurs of Don Imas of the Rutgers students is ludicrous on its face. This is another example of what I call opening your mouth or in this case your pen, and removing all doubt of the level of intelligence you have to offer society.
Imus’ actions did not end a possible championship season for the Rutgers players as the false accusations did for the Duke players. The Rurgers players have not been villified by evry media outlet in the country for an act they did not preform. In short the two incidents are apples and oranges.
Of course getting things like this confused is typical for those who assume the “great unwashed” are too stupid to know the difference.

Posted by: Greg Walton | April 15, 2007, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

I absolutely agree with this article, and it’s about time this view got out there. And no, I don’t agree in any way that this is some kind of “normal” adolescent male behavior. I was that age once, and my life was pretty loose by a lot of measures, but hire strippers for our parties and all the rest of this — give me a break. So much of what these young men were doing was just so plainly wrong. No other word for it.

Posted by: Bruce | April 15, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

I’ll enjoy reading the story about the day Terry Moran or some other limousine liberal is accused (falsely) of a crime. We’ll see how much sympathy he feels he deserves.

Posted by: Brett | April 15, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Hey Terry — maybe you should rename your Web site to http://www.terrymoron.com
His comments are ignorant and biased! — But what do you expect from someone who was “discovered” when he was covering the murder trial of Erik & Lyle Menendez?
I happened to google Terry Moron’s bio, this journalistic genius appears to be single, graduated graduated from Lawrence University (have you heard of this college?) in 1982 and received the Lucia R. Briggs Distinguished Achievement Award in 2003.
Wow — I am sure he has made the ABC Family proud!!
Keep up the great work ABC!

Posted by: Fire Terry Moron Now | April 15, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

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