Exclusive: Iran Nuclear Bomb Could Be Possible by 2009

There are two things the United States should be doing at this time. 1) Continue to pressure the international community to in turn pressure Iran. 2) Conduct convert operations to destabilize the Iranian economy in the hopes that the people of Iran will rise up. The United States must show no weakness in this regard.

Ah, “sources.” Who could argue with ironclad evidence like that??

It looks like it may be up to Israel again.

Thanks for tonight’s World News and for limiting the ads.
The reports on Iran’s nuclear facility and on Kiribati were very good.
KP

They are out of control and need to be stopped immediately before this world becomes a deadly playground.

“sources familiar with the dramatic upgrade tell ABC News.”
Ok, let’s have it. Who, in fact, are your “sources”. We want names, titles, positions, experience and political affiliations.

Who are your mysterious ‘sources’? Sounds like the same b.s. that was fed to us during the lead up to the Iraq war. How long will the government and news agencies continue to conspire and lie to us before we all wake up?

Two things fascinate me: 1) the media supposedly has one slant, then, publishes stuff that one would think would help the Prez start another war.
2) People on both sides see what they want to see.

This story should even be published. Who are “sources”?
The sources say the unexpected expansion is taking place at Iran’s nuclear enrichment plant outside the city of Natanz, in a hardened facility 70 feet underground.

Who among you really believe that Iran, which has extremely vast amounts of oil/natural gas, really needs nuclear electricity….?
Ahmajinidad talks daily about wiping out Israel with one great flash of light – What do YOU think he means???
I’ll teel you – A nuclear explosion in the atmosphere over Israel. This would send out an electromagnetic wave that would put Israel back to the 19th century, and posibly ‘dud’ most all their ability to hit back.

These are the facts:
Iran has 70 Million population and growing fast. Iran has plenty of Uranium ore. It has the technical know-how to build nuclear power plant and extract nuclear fuel from raw uranium. Fossil fuel reserve is ought to be depleted in the future, it is highly pollutant and an expansive investment. The nuclear industry can not be set-up overnight and needs at least 10-20 years preparation. An average Uranium enrichment faciltiy which extract fuel from UF6 needs 30 000 centrifuges to work in cascade to produce nuclear fuel needed for 10 megawatts of electricity per year. Setting up a cascade of 1000 centrifuges is not a lot for the purpose of starting a nuclear fuel industry in the next 5 years.
the motives of US/UK/Israel are much more suspicious than Iran’s.

It is really sad that because of the Iraq fiasco that most of the world is going to turn a blind eye to the biggest threat that the world has seen since WWII. People need to put aside their hatred for Bush and look at what we are facing here. This is a regime that hates all that we stand for and will do whatever it can to destroy us!

Are we all to buy into this again? I would like the sources name and title. This sounds like the begining of what happen six years ago. They still think we don’t have brains, ahh… we do and we use them, they don’t however.

How is it that any war seems unnecessary to the lefties. They only fight they are prepared to wage is against there own countries. Is it a good thing for Iran to have nuclear weapons in the hands of extreme fanatics. Please no more stupid “George Bush is dumb” jokes. It’s tired. He made a promise after 9/11 and I expect him to fulfill it before he leaves office, because I am certain that whomever is the next President will not have the courage to do what needs to be done.

For all those who continue to perpetuate the myth that Saddam having WMD’s was a great big lie – there are tens of thousands of corpses in Irag (Kurds) and Iran (1980-1988 war) that beg to differ. In fact, the U.S. DID find chemical weapon shells in Iraq – buried leftovers manufactured prior to the 1991 war. The CIA was wrong about more recent production, but the track record and inherent capability was unmistakable. So if Iran’s intentions are peaceful, why is their president running around threatening to incinerate Israel. I know, must be more Bush administration lies! Maybe they hypnotized him.

If the fools who are suggesting that ABC is a stooge for Bush really think that, I guess they think CNN and Howard Dean are too. It’s like the whole Democratic party has the mentality of the British PM in 1939.

I guess we should wait till we’re all dead then go after Iran. If todays left was running the show during wwii the UK and all of europe would still be goose-stepping.

You don’t even use the phrase unnamed
sources. When you use “sources”, it probably means lies. We do not trust our own government, or mainstream media. We did once, and that got us into Iraq, is this more lies to get us into Iran?

Here we go again. More of the anonymous “sources” propaganda. It’s hard to believe Bush and the corporate media think we are so stupid that we will buy this twice, but they do believe it. And from some of the posts here, they are right. To quote a GOOD American president: “You can fool some of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”

My summation of the Bush haters is that they are still bitter that Bush won by around a 1000 votes. Then Bush won a close election against Kerry. If Bush is that bad as a president, then Kerry must have been an awful candidate to lost to him.

If Iran had a nuke would they use it? I don’t think so because they are looking down the barrel of a gun. One move of hostility and it is goodnight.

This doublespeak will soon have our young men and women spilling blood upon the ground of another country unless the people rise and reclaim their sovereign right to say no to a federal government rabid with the virus of EMPIRE…

First they have to produce a weapon small enough for their missile fleet to deliver which will take years. Second, they have to develop a guidance system that will deliver the warhead reasonably close to the target and Third, the Quods force isnt making a particularly complex new explosive device. A directional shaped charge can be made with a piece of pipe and a coffee can. The more we patrol in vehicles, the more will be blown up.

Maz, It’s easier to steal elections than to know how to lead.

But what if they are right and Iran has NUKES. And we simply could not muster the political will to stop them because people are upset with George Bush. Don’t let your hatred for Bush allow the Iranian regime to acquire the means to destroy other countries. It will be the same people who will blame Bush if Iran does acquire the bomb and we did nothing.

If the US strikes Iran it will be this year or not at all. Remember 2008 is an election year. Nine months to go.

Excuse me. But as a soverign nation Iran has every right to enrich uranium for use in a nuclear fuel cycle or in nuclear weapons should they see fit to develop them.
If you don’t like that, then it is up to you to enter into a treaty with Iran – negotiate and offer them someting that is more valuable to them than their nuclear fuel cycle.

You may ask James,but not knowing the answer is disturbing to say the least. How many other countries are threating to wipe out and to destoy other countries(Israel and the US)? Who else has suicide bombers running around threating the civilized world? What country is supporting terrorists worldwide? What country is run by religious fanatics hoping to bring Armageddon to the world. Are you serious?

Perhaps the people that believe that Bush is making this up should note that it is Iran, not the US, that is boasting of the speed in their production. Perhaps they should also note that our intelligence agencies remain skeptical that it’s as fast as they say but still growing at an alarming rate. Maybe Bush deserves the “little boy who cried wolf” treatment, but it’s clear where Iran is headed. Anyone who thinks this is a conspiracy is a fool.

Perhaps the people that believe that Bush is making this up should note that it is Iran, not the US, that is boasting of the speed in their production. Perhaps they should also note that our intelligence agencies remain skeptical that it’s as fast as they say but still growing at an alarming rate. Maybe Bush deserves the “little boy who cried wolf” treatment, but it’s clear where Iran is headed. Anyone who thinks this is a conspiracy is a fool.

Put up or shut up: No more “sources say.” That’s the same bogus tactic that took us into an illegal war in Iraq.

The centrifuges may be real or imagined but that is not the issue. The ABC source for this story is not some spy or any other person in Iraq, but some person here in the USA. But if this person is in the Bush administration then the story is pure spin (truth being irrelevant for this administration).
JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.

David Albright is the same Bush liar that got around real evidence with his pathetic hypothesis that Iraq was a Nuclear threat. He is a LIAR! He also only has a master’s degree. LOL

Iran is building a bomb, and will use it once completed. Then and only then the world will wake up. Bush should have gone after the real source of terrorism in the World IRAN. It is not too late yet. The only way out of this to take Molla’s regime out, and US is the only answer world has.The regime who killed 1000′s of it’s own people to stay in power will kill more of others to achive its stability

Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons to defend against an US attack. Iraq was never a real target; it was just a strategic way point on the way to Tehran. Afghanistan, then Iraq and now Iran is surrounded. This is madness.
The prediction that it would take 10 years for them to get a bomb was always ridiculous. It took us 3 years with 1940′s technology, and we didn’t even know if it was possible. It is equally dubious that Iran would threaten us with nukes if they did get them. Having nukes would force them to behave responsibly or be anhililated.
This is the 21st century. We can’t buy peace with blood. We can’t change hearts and minds with guns. We must talk. We will be experience a cooperative and peaceful relationship at some time in the future. This is an absoulute certainty. Why must we sacrifice innocent life to get from here to there?

Iran will be very dangerous if they get a nuclear weapon. Given their statements denying the holocaust, I believe they would not be rational with a nuke. Therefore, I’m in support of taking out their capabilities at whatever the cost.

“sources familiar with the dramatic upgrade tell ABC News” and “sources say the unexpected expansion is taking place”
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Ah, yes, the same good old zionist “sources” who brought us Saddam’s nuclear program. Their motto where the US and middle eastern countries is simple: “Let’s you and him fight”.

We have a huge stockpile of nukes and they are in the hands of Bush/Cheney. Just think about that for a moment.

As far as the Islamist are concerned, Bush did not go to war with them. WE, The United States of America went to war with them. Spent many years in the Middle East, those guys really hate every single one of us. And there is no way you can change their mind. So, stop blaming Bush and ask yourself “are you truly involved in the democratic process?” or do you sit at home on election day and blame Bush for everything. The buck stops at the doorstep of each and every one of us Americans.

This doesnt surprise me at all. What does, are all the people posting comments like ‘needless war’ or ‘more lies’ you are hopelessly naive. sigh.. Iran wants to be the power in the middle east. They also WANT a confrontation with, and the destruction of the west. So… what should be done? Something involving firepower.

2009 or 2019, some day, terrorists will get a nuke.
If we are unwilling to stop them, then we shouldn’t act supprised when they use it on us. Hopefully it will just be one bomb, and not ten.

Blair doesn’t have the backbone to stand up to the Iranians; the French are appeasing them as usual; the Russians and Chinese are helping them; so I guess the only grownups in the world–the US and Israel–will have to take care of business–again. The rest of the world will hide behind our shield and complain about us, but that comes with the territory when you’re king of the hill.

Iran will likely target the UN building to shut it up. Is Bush going to attack IRAN before his term is up? He is technically permitted a full scale attack for 2 month without any approval from congress senate. Simple speak, the democrats can’t stop him before it’s too late.

The WMD info came from the CIA along with intelligence from other nations. The CIA is not a political group. They don’t care who is in office. As a matter of fact, Clinton got the same info as Bush. For those of you that think that this is all from “….Bush and his friends…”, you are uninformed of how the government functions. Reality check, folks. Despite what you may think, we are not out looking for trouble, trouble is looking for us. Iran has been after us since they took hostages for those 444 days in the late seventies. We need to look at the facts and quit listen to how Rosie feels about things. You can not base anything on feelings. It is time we stood up and fought the enemies of the US and quit apologizing for how we live.

An abusive child grows up to be an abusive adult. And how do we handle abusive adults? We bring them before justice and remove them from society.
Consider Iran as an abusive adult. The 70s hostage crisis demonstrated they were an abusive child.
Now their hate is spreading across the region as they plant their abusive people in the societies across the middle-east. They have taken advantage of their neighbors to plant military personnel in their countries in the form of Republican Guards, Hizbulla and Hamas.
Now their neighbors are held hostage by the abusive regime in Tehran, and it can only get worse before it gets better.
But doing nothing only means more abuse from Iran.

Im glad we have a strong president that will not allow this dangerous and unpredictable enemy of the United States to attain a nuclear bomb. Hail to the chief!!!!

I can identify one source high in the Iranian government – Ahmadinejad. He has made his intentions perfectly clear, to destroy Israel and the West. Heck, the fuel being made won’t even work in their only reactor.
Know this, evil does exist and you can’t make it go away by pretending it doesn’t.

I have to say one thing to a lot of the posters here. Before you post please do some research on the subject. It is obvious you have access to the internet so research some of these stories before you respond, as with everything else you do in life, get the facts before you try to have an intelligent conversation about any topic. It is pretty obvious that all you who say bush lied has not done one second of research and those who say we can talk to Iran has not done any research, and those who say Iran should have nuclear technology if they need it, hasn’t done any research.

While all of thoughts here are certainly good and raise some needed thought before embarking into a bad situation. Just remember Iran’s leader has openly expressed the desire to eliminate Israel and the United States. We must be alert and prevail against someone so bold to openly make threats of this degree. larry

If you all think that Iran is the only threat in the production of WMD, think again. North Korea, and South America’s Hugo Chavez are setting up the TRIANGULAR principle of WAR. Just think, Iran, North Korea and South America aiming all of their WMD towards the only country that they consider a threat to them. That’s right, our own back yards. So, lets wake up and seize the opportunity to stop all of these lunatics that are aiming to destroy us and bring them to their knees so that we can go on living in the freedom world that we are all so use to living. These dictators of these three countries need to be brought to justice and hung so that the rest of the WORLD can wake up and smell the roses without the fear of aggression in the form of WMD that will destroy not only the USA but the parts of the WORLD that they consider a non value of interest and a possible future threat to them. I say, stop them now, before it is too late, to regret. I am an American Fighting Man, and I believe in the FREEDOM that our fore fathers had set forth for us to cheerish and enrich our lives with the joy and happeness of FREEDOM. The words IN GOD WE TRUST is a part of our constitution and is printed in just about every part of our monetary exchange process, lets get rid of all of those that believe that “ALLAH” and “JIHAD” should be what is in the new print, and let them know that “IN GOD WE TRUST” is the only trust that we have for them. “GOD BLESS AMERICA and PRESIDENT George Bush for his outstanding leadership in the WAR that he wedged towards TERRORISIM”

I think we should worry about protecting ourselves from these bombs—missile defense systems, etc. Oh yeah! you liberals said Reagan was crazy when he said that. It has come full circle. Let’s just get over the WMD argument. We took out a horrible dictator, and Bush did the best he could with the information he was given. Move on now. As far as the media, I would like to see some positive information about America once in a while…Let’s report both…There’s an idea!

There must be something in the water. It amazes me at how everyone seems to think this administration is SO corrupt and filled with lies. This situation with Iran is much different than in Iraq. To be fair, Bush did NOT lie. I think he was very clear after Sept 11 as to what action the US would have to take to thwart another Tragedy like 911. As an American I am grateful for the rights we have as citizens but ashamed of the Anti American Bush bashing that I hear from everyone. The Entire World believed and provided the evidence that brought into Iraq. It is a justifiable war…Period. Yes War is ugly but the bleeding hearts in this country are the ones to blame for the slow success we see in the Middle East. Saddam had WMDs. I don’t care where you are, if you were given 12 years to develop a program and hide it where it cannot be found….Pee Wee herman could do it. With or without WMDs, Saddam needed to go. The Axis of Evil was called out by Bush and since we have persued and End to those intent on bringing this country down. I think the leaders of I ran have been very clear on their intentions. Unless you prefer living under Sharia Law, I suggest you get behind the ones that are fighting for your right to whine….Boo Hoo the war is ugly..boo hoo…if we just sit down and play nice maybe we can work it out. It took 12 resolutions and more than a decade to eventually get Saddam and his thugs out of the picture. Iran is run by a Terrorist whom Kidnapped and held hostage AMERICANS for 444 days. Stop listening to the crap they keep saying on the news about OUR leader. He is not the Satan they’d like to make him out to be. And in my opinion it is whiney little American brats like you that give our enemies the impression that this country is so weak. Funny how all the countries named by BUSH as the Axis of Evil, all started acting up right after he called them out. If they North Korea, Iran obtain nukes, we will all pay. Iran can hold the World Oil supply hostage.That would make you greasy cheeseburgers, Milk and anything else you spoiled people charish 10 times more expensive. So please if things are so bad here…maybe you should go over to Iran and try to fix it yourself…or just sit back, gripe and moan until you see two suns in the Sunset….Hmmmm. There is no D in Victory…but there is in Defeat. It’s time for Americans to shut up and stand up. Your whining not only irritates me it emboldens an enemy that would just assume lop your head off than look at you. Stop running to our enemies defense or get out of the US.
Blame Yourselves you brats.
Signed
The Patriot

Perhaps I’m mistaken as I don’t know much about nuclear proliferation but does “having enough highly enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon in 2009″ equate to having a nuclear weapon in 2009?
From what I understand, building a nuke is much more complicated than having the raw materials.

The IDF is very busy these days planting “intelligence” about Iran and its nuclear capability. If this “intelligence” is no more valid than the WMD “intelligence” used to sucker the Bush Administration into the Iraq invasion, we can sleep well.By the way, has anbody seen a casualty report of IDF personnel killed in Iraq? How does it compare to American casualties?

So many people post comments that we cannot trust the Bush administration on this matter because it reminds them of the WMD claims about Iraq. Mean time Iran itself is telling the world exactly what its plans and aims are. So because people feel Bush mislead us in Iraq, we should do nothing about Iran’s pusuit of the bomb and stated intentions to use it? This isn’t about support for George Bush, this is about preventing a nuclear exchange that will kill millions and render the middle east uninhabitable as well as end the world’s supply of oil. Oh, and the world-wide effects of the fifty nuclear bombs Israel would launch at Iraq in response. I think we need to put those concerns ahead of any dislike for George Bush and whatever errors were made regarding Iraq.

ummmmmmmmm
Were not the only superpower, and it should not be left up to us to stop Iran. Russia is helping them along with there reactor, Russia borders Iran, Any tactical strike at Iran could cause nuclear fallout to occur in Russia.
I say the US pulls out, and stops thinking of Iran totally. Let them have their nuclear toys while we finish up our missle defense shield. At that point, the only people that need to worry are Isreal, and Russia. Isreal has been at it with the Palistines (phillistines) since biblical times and there simply not going to stop as long as there funded. If Russia is OK with a lunitic at there back door with nukes then so be it. They will not be able to reach the continental US as long as we have a missle defense shield.
In time, Russia, Isreal, India, China, and the other regional powers will rise up against a nuclear Iran. At this point they will come to us for help. Then at least its on our terms and THEN we can pose as a condition for our help no nukes for that REGION. Not just Iran.

Unnecessary war? That’s cute… and exactly the problem. Our sworn enemies, and make no mistake they are, want you dead. Do you not get that? They want you, personally, to die. Is defending your life “unnecessary?” Things can always be done differently in war. The fact is we need someone more steadfast than Bush. We need a Churchill.

Several things:
1) Obviously 15 British troops had no business being anywhere near Iranian waters. They were captured. UK/US leadership knew they’d be captured. It was a planned PR stunt to drum up public anger against Iran.
2) No Iranian armada of warships are headed towards the UK or US. Iran poses no threat.
3) All immigration legal and illegal should be cut off. If Iranians or their Muslim proxies can’t get into the US or UK they can’t hit us. They only can hit us if we allow them to enter the country. They have absolutely no business coming into the US or UK in the first place. Muslims have 24 Islamic countries they can feely worship Allah in and associate with their arab brothers.
4) The corporate and politcal “no borders” elites want war with Iran and the rest of the Middle East.
5) Why not just make surgical missle strikes to hit Iranian nuke production facilities and leave it at that? Or use similar means?

What part of this do you people not understand. Have you not read what their president thinks of us and Israel? Do some research, the level of which hate towards America is practiced over there is sickening. All of you who think this is a big joke and pure propoganda from the Bush camp can be the US’s “human Shield” after Iran finally builds it’s nuke. The fact that even some Americans (I use that term loosely) feel that we should wait until we have undeniable proof, (read attacked), that someone intends to harm us before we do something about it is a disgrace.

If Iran ever used an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) bomb above Isreal, essentially frying every electronic device in the country, the U.S. would make Iran a sheet of glass!! This will not happen, of course, because Iran’s military infrastructure and nuclear facilities will be long gone before they reach this capability! Iran is the State equivilent of a suicide bomber and MUST be stopped!!

Not to all the right-wingers bashing liberals for wanting sources:
We liberals who are asking for sources are doing so in order to validate the means to another possible war. I think I can speak for most liberals when I say that if it is proven to us by more than one source (the Bush administration, who at this time polls show have long since lost America’s trust) we are willing to go along with another possible war. We just want to make an educated decision. We care about the lives of our American soldiers and certainly want the facts before we risk their lives. Asking for some evidence isn’t cowardly, it’s intelligent. This is what educated people do. This concept is only difficult to understand with a narrow mind.

North Korea has the bomb and nobody seems to have a care or worry about that anymore. I wonder why.

As witnessed by so many of the comments here, the Left’s hatred of Bush has become so internalized and deep-rooted that they are blind to real risk staring them in the face. Iran’s nuclear program is not an illusion. Ahmadinejad’s repeated threats against Israel were not cooked up by the Bush administration. The levels of ignorance, paranoia, pure bile and wishful thinking is astonishing-and terrifying, when you consider that these people vote.

Iran has been developing their nuclear industry in secret for the last 20 years. Aside from what they’ve declared to the IAEA, what are the chances that they have some secret, well protected military installation somewhere in the mountains and/or underground in the tunnels, spinning thousands of centrifuges for years already and getting really close to building a nuclear weapon. They already have the blueprints of how to build the nuclear warheads, purchased from Koreans, as evidenced by the documents that they’ve turned to the IAEA a couple of years ago. When pressed about how they’ve obtained this detailed information, they responded that they’ve got it “by mistake” along with the other technical documentation. Yeah, right. Make no mistake, that once that these religious zealots WILL NOT hesitate to detonate a nuclear weapon in US or Israel or other European country. Worse yet, they can and will pass this weapons to the terrorist organizations, the likes of Al Qaida, Hamas, Hisbollah, Chechnya’s rebels. Once these weapons reach these terrorists, they will surely not hesitate to detonate them for their “religious” causes. Some doves do not understand this or do not want to face the reality or seriousness of this situation, but when they wake up one day and CNN news will announce that Iran has successfully detonated a nuclear weapon, will they admit they were wrong? By then it will be too late. I hope this day never comes. Can we afford the chance of letting Iran’s regime go ahead with their nuclear activities? I don’t think so.

Let’s just sit back and do nothing and let the terrorists come to us. Some of you people have a very short memory. Let’s not forget that we have not had one terroist attack on our soil since 9/11. You say that we instigate hate by starting wars with Islamic Countries, but how much do we have to take??? There were plenty of attacks on the United States before President Bush took office, i.e. 1993 World Trade Center Bombing and bombing of U.S.S. Cole.
We can all play Monday Morning quarterback and say the Iraq war wasn’t the right thing to do, but the bottom line is that we eliminated an evil dictator. Does anyone realize that Saddam Hussein sent thousands of dollars to Palestinian suicide bombers families after the suicide bombers blew themselves up in Israel killing innocent women and children? This is the same mentality we are dealing with in regards to Iran’s President. These religious fanatics want to live in the 4th century times. Our two main goals right now should be to stop the proliferation of nuclear bombs by these rogue nations like Iran, and work to try to eliminate our need for fossil fuels

UMMM correct me if I’m wrong but Iran said 3,000 centrifuges by May, this is April they are now putting in 1,000 or the 3,000 and even those don’t work yet and they are trying to tell us they are “ahead” of schedule? Sounds to me like they are behind schedule, but then commen sense and facts never much seemed to matter to this administration and their spinmaster puppets in the media

Who cares. Let them have nukes. No one else cares

Please tell us who your “sources” are for the story on Iran having the N bomb by 2009. Considering the past 6 years it is very worrisome that the Administration is feeding this kind of info to the media with the idea of getting the public to accept a confrontation with Iran. Why now? You have done your listeners a disservice and I am so disappointed in ABC. Is David Albright an authority on the subject? Seems the International authorities are keeping mum. Please address this issue.

As with most countries that hate the U.S, the answer why lies in the last 50 years history in which we put leaders into place in their countries that liked the US more than their own people. Why do Iranians hate us? Look up the Shah of Iran. We put him there in the 50s. He sold his country out to us until the Ayatollah and his kind forced the Shah out in the late 70s. Do I think we should attack Iran now? Not yet. To those here who fault “liberals” for not believing the White House; if you caught your spouse repeatedly in lies, would you still believe him/her?

I say we do nothing, no I’m serious. New York City (again), San Fran, and L.A. will be targets. All far left hubs! I personally will be living in my beach house in Utila watching the fiasco unfold, left blaming right, right blaming left, and neither having the guts to stop it.
Cheers,
PO

ALL of the above is of no consequence. WWII was a LONG time ago. The days of each side wearing a uniform are over. Our men and women are cruising around Iraq and Afghanastan with bullseyes on them. The real problem for them is, how do you fight what you can’t see? If we do wind up at war with Iran (along with Afghanastan, and Iraq), it will be only more of the same. Terrorism has changed the face and rules of war. It will gruel on for years, with NOONE winning. Glory days are over. Just ask Britain or the IRA. Or the poor kids over there trying to defend us. Its time the US recognizes this. It’s lost before it’s begun.
We have approached this war by traditional means. Terrorists BANK on this. It makes it all very predictable for them. Uniforms, patrols, tanks, humvees, ALL stand out. EASY targets. When you watch an old movie about the American Revolution – how stupid do the Red Coats look? Banging on drums wearing royal red uniforms – gee – that must have been hard for the minute men to spot. Time to fight by THEIR rules (which are NO rules)? Time to stop fighting amongst ourselves, Repulican, Democrats – its all so mundane. Face it folks, BOTH sides lie. Politicians don’t climb the ladder of success by being honest. Time to find alternative fuel? The ONLY thing these countries have that anyone wants is oil. If we find a way to operate without their oil, then they have nothing. Then they have sand, and their God. Stop spilling the blood. Put the manpower, the muscle, and the money into technology. Good old American know how. Make fuel not widows man.

It all comes down to one thing, Oil and Corporate greed. We are funding these regimes by buying Opec Oil. Our government is doing nothing to promote alternative fuels. Why would they, our admin built their fortunes with oil.
If we did not need to purchase oil, these countires economies would dry up “overnight” and they would not be able to purchase the technology needed for nukes.
Also, corporations are outsources thousands of US jobs to where? India. As an employee of a large multi-national US firm, I have been seeing our jobs go to the “lowest” bidders worldwide. I know for a fact that many of the techs come from Pakistan, Afghanistan etc. We are funding our enemies for the sake of profit. Building their economies while ours goes down the crapper.

If you read the Bible, it seems to me that it is becoming closer to being fulfilled. The earth will be destroyed by fire, so I am sure that a Nuclear Bomb could completely eliminate part of the world. We need to be on our knees asking God for mercy. This man in Iran wants to destroy Israel which is God’s chosen people…you and I both know that God will never stand for that to take place. Our world needs to be in prayer like never before. We will face times that have never been faced before on this earth.

There is a big difference between enriching uranium up to 5 percent, which is as far as the Iranians have gotten by now, and up to 90 percent required by weapons. Cascading the centrifuges is a big deal, and may be beyond their capability for several years. On the other hand, buying plutonium from N. Korea could happen within weeks after a U.S. strike on Iran, if it has not happened already.

Let’s take them out before they take us out. There goal has always been to eradicate Jews and Christians since the beginning of civilization. These bleeding heart liberals need to wake up or get out this country. When your at war there’s going to be casualties and you have to except it. There is no way to rastionalize with these animals. These are the same people who are providing insurgency with weaponry. Take them out!
Chris

Better to die for freedom than
live under tyranny.

Are you watching the same developments that I am? Have you not seen footage of WWII and the events that led up to it? Iran’s president is not different. He is an unstable person who has been given way too much power. Our fathers who died defending this nation must be rolling over in their graves. We have been nice enough for too long! We we sit back and “play nice” is when we will be hit with a nuclear bomb. We must stop things before they start. Remember WWII

The hypocracy is blinding.
We insist that the Iranians stop all research into nuclear development for civilian or military use at the same time that we announce that we’re moving forward with a massive upgrading of our old nuclear arsenal which is large enough to blow our entire planet out of orbit.
Meanwhile since the bombing of Hiroshima, we and other members of the western alliance, far too numerous to mention have performed over 2000 nuclear weapons tests on a wide assortment of deserts, atolls, islands and under ground sites.
These had nothing to do with power for civilian use, but that was internationally acceptable.
Iran on the other hand is prohibited from so much as lighting a home with nuclear powered electricity.
Go figure.

Sorry, in my last post I said “Persians”. I think the euphemism for the last 70 years has been “Iranians”. Talk about trying to run from your own past!

I’m very curious to know where these centrifuges are comming from. Are they being manufactured in Iran or imported from another country? If the latter, then simply blocking their import is a simple solution, but the media never addresses this issue. I wouldn’t be surprised is they are coming from Russia or France.

NEWS FLASH!
- Iraq did not attack us on 9/11
- Iran did not attack us on 9/11
- Iran is a vast majority SHIITE muslim country
- The terrorists attacking US troops in Iraq are SUNNI muslims.
- NONE of Bush or Cheney’s children are in the armed services, nor are they fighint in Iraq.
- If Bush or Cheney cannot convince their own children that the war is worth fighting, why should anyone else believe it?

i personally the united states should try to stop this its put our country in alot of danger and this coming out of a 14 year old starting tomorrow isnt good at all we all need to do something MAYBE PREPARE FOR THIS!!!!!!!DUH!!!!!WHAT SHOULD WE DO JUST SIT AROUND AND LET OUR WHOLE COUNTRY BE DESTROYED AFTER ALL WE HAVE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS IS WRONG…….

I’m dumbfounded how everyone’s just got their eyes on whoever the media decides to engage, and the rest of the world goes completely unnoticed. We talk about “removing a terrible dictator” (Saddam Hussein) and see it as justified, while Africa suffers from hundreds of these megalomaniacs. We talk about “stopping the nuclear threat” and how it might not be such a bad idea to risk it all and go after the Iranians, but N.Korea with its own brand of unpredictable nutcase gets away with conducting underground nuclear tests.
America seems obsessed with reductionism at the moment. Everything always has to be black/white, wrong/right, republican/democrat. Unfortunately the world doesn’t work that way. It’s much more complex than getting down to “You’re an idiot. No, you’re an idiot” style argument. I know we don’t all strive for wizdom, but everyone who believes in something strongly owes it to themselves to study the opposing viewpoints in as unbiased a fashion as possible…

I’m not sure the Iranians would actually allow inspectors into their sites, but a third party inspection by someone like Blix certainly seems like a starting point. If Iran refuses, though, then what can one do?
Also, to address the issue of “why do some countries get to have nukes, and others don’t?”, it just makes sense that states who have stated objectives of the complete destruction of others would make a good argument for the latter.

It’s funny how the major news outlets LIVE and DIE on anonymous, undisclosed sources…
Now that the information favors the republicans, the lap-dogs are sent in to attack these very same ‘sources’…
Peculiar… very.

…and I COULD be a billionaire by 2009.

You liberals need to look no further than Iranian state television to see what kind of a threat they are. Look up some info on their president and the 12th Imam. Deterrence would not work with their current leadership because they are looking to bring about the cataclysmic fight which will bring about the coming of this 12th Imam or the Mahdi. This event will bring about the rule of Islam over the whole world. But nooo, I’m sure Bush is just feeding him these lies or secretly authoring the Shi’ite texts.

We’ve had a problem with Iran long prior to our invading Iraq.
We even aided Iraq with funding, intel and weaponry so Saddam could fight a proxy war with Iran.
But if Iran was a genuine threat to the US, why would we have invaded Iraq for all the wrong reasons after 9/11 when we could have just as easily invaded Iran on the same pack of lies, misrepresentations and “faulty intel”???
Why?
Because Iraq has been nothing but a strategic base of deployment for the over all agenda of eventually destabilizing and waging an offensive against Iran.

It doesn’t concern us here, they only want to take over the Middle East & Europe & slaughter all the Jews and the non-believers. We should stay out of it. Oh, wait, that sounds like what we said in 1939 just before Hitler tried to take over Europe and slaughtered 6 million Jews and another 6 million undesirables and 20 million Russian peasants who were in the way of his advance into Russia! Far too late, the US was forced into war and it cost 400,000 American lives. It cost an additional 5,000 American lives each year that we occupied Germany AFTER they surrendered. I hate war, I grew up in the Viet Nam era, but, tragically, sometimes evil must be met with force, even war, to stop it before it takes over the world. Freedom can only be bought with the blood of patriots.

Since when is our national security a volleyball??! I’m one of those whose skeptical about the sources cited and certainly about the wisdom of OUR intervening militarily when we’ve more than got our hands full extracting ourselves from the last blunder, but the comment thread here reveals a bunch of people trying to score points one way or another when the question first and foremost should be “how do we best achieve the security of the US?”

I can’t judge what this means, until I konw what the source of your intel is. Sorry ABC – let’s get those sources NAMED, so we can decide for ourselves how truthful this info might be.

WHAT SOURCES THE SAME ONE THAT GAVE US WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. ABC SHOULD AT LEAST TELL US IF THEY ARE FROM OUR GOVERNMENT,THE NATIONAL REVIEW.OR THE BROOKING ISTITUTE. THEN WE CAN DECIDE IF WE CAN BELIEVE THEM.

All of these simple minded people parroting the party line of “Bush lies” and “this is like the Iraq WMD’s that never existed” are doing nothing more than repeating the talking points of left wing websites such as Democratic Underground and the like. The lemmings that buy into the left wing propaganda will never change their minds until they or their loved ones are victims of Islamofacist terrorism. The world is more dangerous than ever, and now you have the added spectre of religous fanaticism in addition to the usual fanatic nationalism or advancement of a particular type of social economic system. People will do much more for their God than they will for a country or an economic system. The only thing that will keep the radical Islamists from tearing down the door of your house and beheading you and all other “infidels” is maintaining an offensive military stance that occupies them in other parts of the world. It is a miracle that nothing else has happened in the U.S. since 9/11 in spite of the best efforts of the liberals to force our military to fight blindfolded with one arm behind their collective backs. Had the liberals truly backed the troops as they claim they do, this could have been over long ago, because we could have pulled out all of the stops and killed those that needed killing, and destroyed what needed destroying.

I’m old enough to remember when we expected transparent imperialist fabrications like this from the Soviet Union. It seems the current US thugocracy is religiously committed to the same ironclad path to extinction.
When Constitutionally loyal forces regain control of the Executive branch, FCC-controlled government outlets like ABC News will need to answer for their part in the ongoing US atrocities being perpetrated for world domination.
The truth will set us free. Unconfirmed spoon fed propaganda will not.

Where did ABC’s reporter Brian Ross get his information?
With no attribution and no verification of his information, Brian Ross’s reporting has all the credibility of a White House press release or a Collin Powell speech before the UN Security Council.
Is this supposed to be what ABC now substitutes for journalism?

A few points:
1. The Islamic world doesn’t want to kick down our doors. They want us to stop kicking down their doors! Proof: The majority of Islamic countries are actually U.S. allies. Iran & Syria are the major exceptions.
2. The U.S. has a long history of manipulation of M.E. countries, going back well before the Iranian hostage crisis. The U.S. is hardly the injured party.
3. The U.S. helped Saddam Hussein acquire his chemical weapons to use against Iran in an offensive war started by Hussein that cost over 1 million lives. Even after he had used them against the Kurds, the Bush-1 admin. was still trying to arrange loans for him to acquire more. We still await the U.S. apology to Iran.

For all the people questioning who the “sources” are:
Ahmadinejad PUBLICLY PREDICTED that he would install thousands of new centrifuges! It’s his stated goal! It says so right in the story. The rest is just math. How could Bush make that up?

This story is so irresponsible. The public deserves to know who these sources are, or if their identity must be kept secret, we deserve to know why these sources are credible.

If the Bushies want to take us into war against Iran I suggest that only the military-service age children of Republican politicans throughout the land be drafted and go first.

wag the dog but the truth is a new war is coming

Let them eat cake. Let them build the bomb. A middle-eastern nuclear engagement would eliminate 1/2 to 2/3 of the world’s oil production, thereby reducing global warming. Not to mention resolving some major conflicts that the world would be better without. As to the people of the middle east… well, that problem would be eliminated

I understood that Iran already has 4 small tactical warheads, purchased from the mafia in Kazakhstan during the early 90′s.

God help Iran if they don’t develope a nuclear weapon sooner rather than later. With so much valuable natural gas and oil, the Bomb is the only thing that will stop us setting siege (which has already begun) and eventually invading them.

Iran is creating an A-bomb and is planning to hide them next to Iraq’s WMD’s. Saddam was a criminal, but it turns out he WAS in compliance with the UN mandate and we needlessly starved the Iraq people for 10 years… prior to Operation Iraqi Bush-Lies. Maybe we should listen, monitor and stop bullying the middle east. Our threats to their countries is why they want weapons.

My American friends,
If you won’t impeach your president during his term, I hope that some honest group in the US will bring war-crimes charges against him after he leaves office.
Don’t forget Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz too.

Wow. The human race never ceases to amaze me. I am awed by the way some people have turned outright comments by Iran’s president into the lies of the Bush Administration. Iran openly stated they would have 3,000 centrifuges by May. They may actually do it. And if you think it’s all just a huge plan by the Bush Administration to turn anger towards Iran, so be it. Stay in your closed-minded bubble and you’ll see the truth in the form of a huge, bright flash. As for the capturing of the 15 British soldier being a political ploy, let the person who said that be sent on the next “mission.”
Come on people, grow up. Quit spitting in Bush’s face and give him the respect he deserves as our president, whether you like him or not.
-beth

Name your sources or don’t bother printing. What is it with the 4th estate that journalists have turned into propagandists for a demented White House?
Or is it that you were already salivating at the thougt of bombing Iran under the guise of helping the Brits but Iran just destroyed your little dream? So, now you are back with some unnamed, vague source, quacking about Iran getting a “nukular” bomb by 2009?

NK has nukes. Are we preparing to attack them? Shouldn’t we be preparing to attack them? Air strike from 4am to 4pm on a religious holiday?

You people honestly believe Iran is NOT building nuclear bombs??!! Come on kids, they have publically said we will burn in their fiery! This is a people who do NOT believe in our values what so ever. Playing nice will NOT work. Put down your text books and pick up those bibles cause this going to happen. Our only hope to delay this nightware is unity in prayer.

The problem is not that Iran is enriching Uranium, it is that Iran is presently led by people who beleive they can and should kill all others who do not submit to them. Islam is at war until Doomsday with everyone who does not confess their Allah as the supreme god who cannot be disobeyed. Doomsday is now quite close. If Iran obtains a nuclear weapon, making or buying it, they will use it against Israel, and if they have two weapons the second will explode on an American city. I live near an American seaport that has a lot of trouble keeping itself secure. A ship with an A-bomb does not have to unload its cargo, it can detonate it in proximity to the target. A cargo container with a bomb can be driven to an exact location by truck. Sorry to tell you, America is at risk. Instead of cursing the administration, why not put some thought into helping the President deal with the terrible situation we are in. It doesn’t matter if it is a Republican or Democrat in the White House, either one MUST act to prevent a nuclear attack on our country. When someone says they are going to kill you, don’t passively wait for them to do it, take action to stop them.

The problem is that we are looking at a nation that is run by a religous zealot who believes in an “end-time” religous scenario.
Worse, he is politically unpopular and so he may believe that igniting a conflict could allow him to regain popularity or, even worse, seize the reigns of power.
Besides, he knows his country can’t “lose” the conflict. True it can’t be won either but that is okay. A permanent state of conflict serves his purposes just as well.
Couple that with an economy on the brink of collapse and there is every reason to move forward with a war.
Z

I could have it in 2009? Last time we believed the government sworn testimony about the WMD about Iraq it turned out to be a lie. How can believe in a “could”, “if”, or “possiblities”. Yeh, I guess I could win the lottery too.
Besides, why don’t we focus on those who have the nuclear bomb now. Oh, say for example, Israel.

The Iranian’s are known to have manufactured centrifuges based on two AQ Khan designs, the P-1 and P-2. The latter type is about twice as efficient.
In order to produce enough Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) for a single bomb, Iran would need between 6-9000 P-1s spinning continuously for a year, with no breakdowns or maintenance down-time.
There P-1 and P-2 centrifuges are notorious for their lack of reliability and high maintenance — they are just about the least efficient in the world.
Do the math yourself. There is absolutely no way that 1,000 machines could produce enough HEU for a single bomb by 2008, even if all of them were P-2s. The report — which cites no specific sources — is simply wrong.

Zach asked:
“How many times have the countries of Islam militarily invaded or occupied any country of the west?”
Between 700 and 1700, the West was under repeated waves of military conquest from Islamic forces.
Spain was under Moorish rule until 1492.
The Byzantine Empire (or Eastern Roman Empire), the home of the Greek Orthodox Church, was destroyed by the Ottoman Empire in the 1400′s. The capital of Turkey, Istanbul, was originally Constantinople.
France was invaded by Islamic armies which ended with their defeat in the Battle of Tours.
Athens in Greece was conquered by Islamic forces, as was Serbia, Bosnia, and Crimea
Otranto in Italy was an Islamic conquest.
It was not until the titanic, history-changing Battle of Vienna in the late 17th century that the Islam invasions of the West ended.

Wow and thanks, Yale.
That’s some great ancient history research.
There’s something to learn every day.
Unfortunately it doesn’t offer much in the way of explanation or rationale for everything that’s happened in the 400 years since the 1600′s.
You don’t think the crusades of the 11th century through the 13th and all that led up to it for a few hundred years might have had anything to do with stoking the fires, do you?

oh my.
“I proudly announce that as of today Iran is among the countries which produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale,” President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a gathering at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility in central Iran.”

Oh, I dunno. I’ll go with the odds.
Lots of countries have nukes and many of those have had them for some time.
But there’s only one country I know of that has a history of ever actually using them on another coountry’s population.
And did it twice!

What hyperbole!Anyone with half an IQ should be able to discern Iran’s intent. They will acquire nuclear weapons and they will use them against Israel and, if possible, the US. And, to those who believe they wouldn’t use them because they are “looking down the barrel of a gun”, these people have a total disregard for human life in that they believe in greater rewards of matrydom. Their religion pomises them “72 VIRGINS” if they give their lives for Islam. Can we afford to turn a blind eye, at this point in history? I think not. Someone like Hiter (or worse) waits in the shadows. Please, don’t allow your bias of the Bush administration color you and your family’s safety. A war is coming and it is up to the US to decide now whether it will be coventional or nuclear.

Iran is producing more and more material to make a nuclear bomb, but if they do, will they really use it? Yeah a lot of the nations have nuclear power and weapons, but the main question is will they really use it on others? Probably against Iraq, but that’s a whole differnt story and another war to talk about. 2009 is still a long ways away, but you never know what will happen.

For those who say negotiate witth them: They won’t negotiate. It’s their way or the highway. They have been diverting attention and gaining ground on the centrifuges for the last three-four years. They have a fountain in Tehran that has a red fluid in it that they say is the blood of martyrs who fought Sadaam. They sacraficed unarmed children who ran through mine fields when attacking the Iraq soldiers. Tough negotiators these guys.

This story doesn’t need le whiff de Debat: the central innuendo that “the uranium they are enriching could not be used in the Russian nuclear power reactor” is probably not true and irrelevant regardless:
a) Iran contracted that reactor to be fueled by Russia in the first place, and hasn’t stopped trying to get them to fuel it.
b) Iran is building other reactors intended for an indigenous fuel cycle.
c) Not one reason is offered why Iran couldn’t fuel that reactor themselves.
The only explanation that comes to mind is Iran’s continuing inability to produce the necessary quantities of low-enriched uranium.

Here’s a nice little reality check…
500K dead in Darfur any day now. Does anyone care? There seems to be something we should take action on… but, why not? Because it’s no threat to Israel?
Take your facts from history, folks:
Countries that wage war as a solution have always raped and pillaged the remains. Now the US and every other war-like nation cover that with excuses before and after.
All of you that say “duh, we have to kill others to remain safe”… got kids? Well, spend as much quality time as you can with them. By your plan they’ll all be dead on the field of battle before they’re 30. Great plan.
Everyone reading this… stop for one second and ask yourself how would you stop a bully on the playground? Everyone stand together against him, peacefully… you don’t kick the kids ass. That’s not legal or just to simply be more of a bully to him. It’s time for us to stand as one against all of this… no more war. That means we establish relationships at the individual level with Iranians, North Koreans, US, UK, Sudanese… all citizens… and stop pointing fingers and start acting like the tiny little rock full of beings that we are. One people with one future.
KILL, KILL, KILL… that’s a fool’s game if there ever was one. You can say “we have to be militant to control everything in our favor”… that is not a lesson that is taught by historic standards. The guy on the corner with the big stick eventually gets taken-out and in a big way, never to rise again. Can you say Rome? Do we just grind the peasants under our wheels until they are Soylent Green? (sigh)

If I were the president of the USA, I never even blink and would act first on Iran before they could use their WMD. This country is full of evil.

I remember reading about Iranian development of IRBM and ICBM technology in the late 1990s, they currently have missiles which can reach most of the middle east, and will eventually have missiles that can reach as far as London, with even a 3 stage ICBM in development with a 11,000 km range, this will be enough to hit New York and possibly Washington DC. These systems have been in development since the mid 1990s, and with oil prices where they are today, they will have no problem purchasing the technological know-how and resources to make it happen.
One might ask why would Iran be developing such systems if all they planned to deliver were conventional munitions? it makes no sense to deliver a 1000 kg bomb with an ICBM, it simply does not justify the cost of building the launch vehicle, in terms of actual military use. however a 1,000 kg Nuclear warhead could easily range into megaton yields, in which only 1 would need to hit a city or military base to destroy it.
It is unfortunate that the situation in Iraq has managed to blind most to the real emerging threat to the west, which is Iran. And unlike Iraq, Iranian WMDsare not suspected, they are common knowledge to the UN as well as US and European intelligence agencies.
Duce

For all we know, If Iran builds the bomb, it may very well be ww3.
ALL nuclear weapons should be banned & the knowledge on how to build them destroyed.
We most defienaly don’t need another ww. We’re still reeling from ww2.
An a-bomb today is 100x more powerful, more efficiant than 1945. If an a-bomb is developed today & dropped, bye bye life on Earth.

time for a new strategy: propose a threat reduction plan which includes benefits for Humanitarian services resurrected in iran and iraq. give them other incentives in the form of aide and sercurity if they, in fact stand down any and all threats. remind them the USA will not make the first move , ever, for a war situation. no other country that is a memeber of the United Nations would ever break a promise of peace. the UN is the overall decision-maker for our world today on Human rights. they should not get involved with anything but Human rights. if in fact, the countries in question, are in violation of those rights entitling the people of that said country to be a free society and freedom of culturally practices being oppressed, the UN is to make sure the individuals that violated the ‘trust’ are removed from office and or position. the defense for those countries are souly meant to secure the country and the people and be on stand-by in the event of an emergency. at NO time are they to accept orders outside those that are conditions of the UN security agreement!!

The U.N. did nothing for Sierre Leone. If I remember correctly, Neill Ellis and his MI-24 Hind attack helicopter was the only thing that stood between the civilians and the RUF. Now you want us to trust the U.N. to act against IRAN? I wouldn’t trust the U.N. to run a lemonade stand. I’ll give the Iranians credit, at least you know where they are coming from. The bad part ( in my opinion ) is that they will use nukes.

I think its inevitable, we will have to deal with Iran one way or another. Just like the rest of the Middle East Countries they are prolonged to only listen to the Koran and their religion. Even though it might seem preposterous at this time we need to get over with the dirty work and disarm Iran because it will pay off in the future. You need to have a long term futuristic approach to everything in life and plan ahead. Its always better to be early than too late right?

Cheney said the same thing about Iraq. Fast forward 5 years later and there’s no nuclear program in iraq, no weapons of mass destruction, no poison gas, no anthrax, no threat of any kind.

July 3 1988:
America has been a bully for over 30 years. Did any one expect that to stop. We are the enemy of Iran.

The UN does pose greater threat to Iran than Iran poses to the United States. You can’t really be too upset at people who refuse to give in to the Bush administration because it was them who manipulated us to begin with and caused many of our loved ones to be killed in a pointless war so called war on terrorism.

Bush selected the most convenient information and intelligence to support his agenda,there were equal numbers of people in our intelligence agencies and foreign agencies that believed and reported that Hussein neither had the capability nor the will to attack the United States.

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I think Obama is to weak as a president, talk talk talk and soon it will be to late ! Iran will have somekind of nuclear weapon in 2009, maybe we will not know it but they will have it.

The United Nations must do something about it.
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