Senior Official Linked to Escort Service Resigns
Deputy Secretary of State Randall L. Tobias submitted his resignation Friday, one day after confirming to ABC News that he had been a customer of a Washington, D.C. escort service whose owner has been charged by federal prosecutors with running a prostitution operation. Tobias, 65, director of U.S. Foreign Assistance and administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), had previously served as the ambassador for the President’s Emergency Fund for AIDS Relief. A State Department press release late Friday afternoon said only he was leaving for "personal reasons." Photos Tobias: A Powerbroker in the Capital On Thursday, Tobias told ABC News he had several times called the "Pamela Martin and Associates" escort service "to have gals come over to the condo to give me a massage." Tobias, who is married, said there had been "no sex," and that recently he had been using another service "with Central Americans" to provide massages. World News Video Senior Official Resigns After Admitting He Used an Escort Service. Tobias’ private cell number was among thousands of numbers listed in the telephone records provided to ABC News by Jeane Palfrey, the woman dubbed the "D.C. Madam," who is facing the federal charges. In an interview to be broadcast on "20/20" next Friday, Palfrey says she intends to call Tobias and a number of her other prominent D.C. clients to testify at her trial. Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage. "I’m sure as heck not going to be going to federal prison for one day, let alone, four to eight years, because I’m shy about bringing in the deputy secretary of whatever," Palfrey told ABC News. Palfrey maintains she ran a sexual fantasy business that was legal and that if any of the women who were working for her had sex, they did so in violation of her rules and without her knowledge. She says there are a number of other prominent Washington, D.C. men who will be on her witness list. "I’ll bring every last one of them in if necessary," Palfrey said. As the Bush administration’s so-called "AIDS czar," Tobias was criticized by some for emphasizing faithfulness and abstinence over condom use to prevent the spread of AIDS.
In a 2004 interview, Tobias explained his approach as "A and B and C. . . Abstinence works. ‘Be faithful’ works. Condoms work. They all have a role. But it’s not a multiple choice, where there is only one answer."
As a top official overseeing global AIDS funding to other countries, Tobias was responsible for enforcing a U.S. policy, enacted during the Bush administration, that requires recipients to swear they oppose prostitution and sex trafficking. USAID adopted a similar policy in 2004. At an April 18 speech, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised Tobias’ work. "Randy Tobias has indeed had many roles in his life, but none more important than the roles he’s played in government, where he has been someone who has been most involved in organizing America’s compassion to the world."
A biography of Tobias was removed from the USAID Web site, but an archived version shows that before joining the State Department, Tobias had been CEO of drug manufacturer Eli Lilly Co. and AT&T Communications and served on the board of trustees for Duke University, including three years as its chair.
In 2003, he co-wrote a book on leadership lessons with his son, Todd, entitled, "Put the Moose on the Table." Indiana University, whose publishing arm produced the volume, is also home to the Randall L. Tobias Center for Leadership Excellence.
Along with his wife, Marianne, Tobias donated over $100,000 to Republican candidates and political committees, according to the campaign finance Web site OpenSecrets.org.
Tobias is the second prominent man to be identified as a customer of the Palfrey’s "sexual fantasy service." Two weeks ago, Palfrey alleged that military strategist Harlan K. Ullman, creator of the "shock and awe" combat theory and now a senior associate with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, was also a customer. Ullman has said that the claim was "beneath the dignity of comment."
Palfrey is expected to appear in court on Monday, to request permission to replace her criminal defense attorney, currently a federal public defender. This post has been updated.
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So did Tobias wear a condom when he didn’t have sex or not?
Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon | April 27, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Is there no end to the Republican leadership’s hypocrisy when it comes to sex?
Posted by: eddy tompkins | April 27, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Yet more Republican hypocracy. What a den of criminals we have running this country. I hope everyone’s happy.
Posted by: Rick | April 27, 2007, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Just goes to show the hypocracy that both dems and reps show. Everyone does it. Get a massage, I mean…You know.. Get real and get on with your life.
Posted by: Scott N. | April 27, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Perhaps Mr. Tobias used a condom or if not, he should take his own advice and sign up immediately for an AIDS test. Guess he didn’t get the absentince memo from Wolfowitz and the other Bushies!!Failures and fools at every level.
Posted by: Ran A. Muck | April 27, 2007, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
AGAIN, the “family values” guys? well, well, well,
Posted by: AL | April 27, 2007, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
And the democrats are not liars. When are you all going to wake up and realize that no politician is on the up and up. Hillary, what a joke.
Posted by: liblover | April 27, 2007, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Tobias didn’t happen to leave the phone number for those Central Americans behind by any chance? Maybe we could get up a fund and buy the customer list for a few laughs.
Posted by: DiFi Fan | April 27, 2007, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I am curious why is this ABC’s top story. I wish Americans would be more concerned about policy rather than what happens behind closed doors. Regardless of your political persuasion, you have to question why stories like these are considered so newsworthy.
Posted by: Wendy Lawrence | April 27, 2007, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
The only scandal here is that somebody can legally be charged for running a prostitution operation. How absurd can it get? “Land of the free”???? – What a joke!
Posted by: Mortran | April 27, 2007, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Oh, the moral Republicans are just making my day …. Every day another hypocrite bites the dust.
Posted by: sally rathbone | April 27, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Deputy SecState Resigns over Escort Service Revelation
Posted by: PoliBlog (TM): A Rough Draft of my Thoughts | April 27, 2007, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Just because they have a CELL Phone number doesn’t that only declare the communication..could this man have been providing “others” w/the Service..which would create the “pimp” in such an act..here in CT there was a big bust on Escort Services..all kinds of people are involved..ages,,nationalities,,but the lies really stem from the MASSAGE-issue of these people..
I think long time involvemnt would really show some Bad Personalities.
Posted by: MarkSM | April 27, 2007, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
“Personal reasons..”
Indeed. It’s hard to get a lot more “personal” than that. These neocons are DISGUSTING.
Posted by: jpowalksi | April 27, 2007, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Republican leadership? Democratic leadership? Where are Christian leaders? My daughter was in jr.high during Clinton’s horrendous sexual conduct scandal. Every week Time magazine had the story. Our children all over the world were all aware of what the president of the U.S. was admitting to, yet he was re-elected. What has happened to our country? Tobias is not alone in his actions. But I feel we need to mention the money our political representatives spend taking these trips. That’s another subject and problem!
Posted by: Angela | April 27, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
If it’s big and embarassing to the Bush administration, count on it happening late on a Friday. Do they really think we’re that stupid? Oh yeah, that’s right – they got elected. Twice.
Posted by: kbbpll | April 27, 2007, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
America is burning and all the Congress can do is blame each other while the rest of the nation just wants to be intertained.
Reminds me of reading when Rome burned.
Issues important to the betterment of the whole United States are not discussed for fear of hurting some Special Interests “rights”.
Newspapers know sex sells, so that makes reporting it front page.
United We Stand – Divided We Fall
Last election was very divided. Do the math.
Posted by: chuck burford | April 27, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Let me see if this is on my front page. Here in the Midwest they hide all the Bush embarrassments on page 12.
Must be nice. If your name is Clinton the lies and fiction are above fold.
Posted by: whizkid | April 27, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Save the United States, repeal the 12th amendment.
Posted by: Patton | April 27, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
“Tobias, who is married, said there had been “no sex,” and that recently he had been using another service “with Central Americans” to provide massages.”
Honestly, do these people think we are all completely stupid?
I know I should be used to this by now, but the hypocricy of the Republicans stuns me!
Posted by: steve holt! | April 27, 2007, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Tobias is well named Randy!
Posted by: Jack Abramoff, America's sweetheart | April 27, 2007, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Friday. Of course. All the Bush/GOP dirt always tries to sneak by on a Friday.
Posted by: Kevin | April 27, 2007, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
At least he didnt get BJs like Slick willy democrats “first man”
Posted by: mike | April 27, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Ahhh…but did he inhale?
Posted by: just wondering | April 27, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Well – There’s nothing stating that only Republicans used this service. I think we should withhold attributing this type of behavior to one party or another. I’m sure there will be a few Democrats on the witness list as well. Paying for sex isn’t an activity that is the purview of members of just one political party.
Posted by: pkohan | April 27, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
You REALLY think that he JUST got a massage? Please. Hypocrites and liars, thieves and traitors. The GOP I grew up with has been destroyed by these neocon criminals.
Posted by: Mike H. | April 27, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Yes, Clinton was fooling around, too, and he paid for it. Plus, it’s ancient history. Why don’t the Republicans face it–their party is chock full of self-righteous, war-mongering, lying, hypocritical perverts.
Posted by: Mike | April 27, 2007, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
wow, I mean wow, how high in office do these scandals have to go before the republican constituents wake up.
and people think Kucinich is crazy to call for an article of impeachment on Cheney?
Posted by: donviti | April 27, 2007, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
No sex, huh? This sounds a lot like someone who didn’t inhale.
Posted by: MaryLou Harper | April 27, 2007, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Who in the World really cares if he used an escort service or not! What he does on his OWN time is HIS business, not mine or yours! And it doesn’t matter if he is Republican or Democrat. Everyone needs to worry about something that is really something to worry about! Stay out of other people’s personal business! In other words, GET A LIFE!
Posted by: Sue | April 27, 2007, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
The hypocrisy of Sexual issues in this once great country, is stunning. Janet Jackson causes a clamor over one nipple shown on TV and yet we get constant bombardment by the likes of Viagra, Cialis, etc and as long as it’s hawking a product, the morality takes 2nd place to “Bidness” (as George Bush would say). Republicans being found on this “Madam’s” list is just funny and of course, totally expected. Can we finally put a stake in the Republican argument of “family values”?
Posted by: Ron Russell | April 27, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Sue, go back and read the last paragraph again.
Posted by: Mike | April 27, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
shouldn’t someone that has a higher moral standard be holding those positions?
what does that say about the guy for god’s sake?
Posted by: donviti | April 27, 2007, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Typical GOP liar, what a surprise.
Posted by: RealityCheck | April 27, 2007, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Eight years of peace? Uh…does Somalia, Ethiopia, 1st trade center, Uss Cole, African bombings,invading Kosovo, and bombing aspirin factories count as peace? At least this guy had the decency to quit, unlike a democrat.
Posted by: John | April 27, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Well, Sue. Let’s look at this pattern. Mark Foley – anti-predator stance is preying on young male aids. Preacher Ted who is anti-gay has a relationship with male prostitutes. And now this guy. Preaching abstinence, etc., while he, a married man, is getting sexual favors by escorts. That’s why people are commenting on this. How dare these guys preach to us when they’re all practicing what they preach against?
Posted by: Sue | April 27, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Mike…. I think you maybe need to get a LIFE TOO!
Posted by: Sue | April 27, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
donviti is right to raise the question. The answer is simple, the Republican party is in a campaign to reduce the nation into a state of complete moral decline. Lying, stealing, murdering, assuming all power, exploiting pages, politicizing everything, nepotism and getting non sexual massages…..does that cover it or is the list of abuses longer?
Posted by: MaryLou Harper | April 27, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
It does not matter which party he is in…What matters is he is a man…a husband…a father…and anow a cheater….You give anyone an inch and they will take a mile…No matter what party the are for…….
Posted by: Sharon | April 27, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Gee, another GOP hypocrite. Go figure. Just like Newt getting his own hummer when impeaching Clinton.
God is good…well, when it applies to the other slobs out there.
And Sue, if it wasn’t so hypocritical, we’d all gladly stay out of his business. I suppose the irony escapes you, though.
Posted by: Joanne | April 27, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
OK – isn’t this all a bit silly. If he wanted a massage, is that now a crime? Its simply that the Dems are so prone to do a witch hunt of everyone, we’ve all forgotten if they’ve actually accomplished anything in Pelosi’s first 100 (now plus) days in office. Adding pork barrel funding to pet projects for the Dems. Leader of the Senate to key defense bills – makes it seem – they care more about witch hunts, then protecting the American public. Its time for Pelosi to start to talk to the American public – she keeps on saying she does, but really now – does anyone really believe her?
Posted by: mira | April 27, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Guess what, Johnny boy, you guys are going down! We’re taking it all! hahahahahahahahaha. You’re looking at Democratic rule for a very long time. Get used to it or get lost! We rule!
Posted by: John | April 27, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Angela | Apr 27, 2007 10:14:52 PM said: ‘My daughter was in jr.high during Clinton’s horrendous sexual conduct scandal. Every week Time magazine had the story. Our children all over the world were all aware of what the president of the U.S. was admitting to, yet he was re-elected.’ Um…Clinton was re-elected in 96, Monica-gate happened in 98. Nice try, thanks for playing. Let’s stay on topic: The wheels are coming off the thoroughly corrupt Bush Admin and their morally bankrupt GOP enablers.
Posted by: nffcnnr | April 27, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Mira, Your comment couldn’t be dumber.
Posted by: smartdem | April 27, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
You know what I am not the Judge nor the Jury, so I will NOT judge anyone else! I am not saying what he did was right or wrong, I am just saying it isn’t anybody else’s business! If you think for ONE minute there aren’t plenty more out there just like him, think again! Democrat or Republican, Independent, I don’t care!
Posted by: Sue | April 27, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
You know what I am not the Judge nor the Jury, so I will NOT judge anyone else! I am not saying what he did was right or wrong, I am just saying it isn’t anybody else’s business! If you think for ONE minute there aren’t plenty more out there just like him, think again! Democrat or Republican, Independent, I don’t care!
Posted by: Sue | April 27, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
First, we hear Bush lied on the weapons of mass destruction, then that Mr Tobias went for massages (oh sure) to a notorious DC Madam. What next with this Bush administration?
Posted by: MikeP | April 27, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
You know what I am not the Judge nor the Jury, so I will NOT judge anyone else! I am not saying what he did was right or wrong, I am just saying it isn’t anybody else’s business! If you think for ONE minute there aren’t plenty more out there just like him, think again! Democrat or Republican, Independent, I don’t care!
Posted by: Sue | April 27, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
I have a pile of stones here, if anyone’s interested …
H.L. Mencken said something like, “A Puritan, when confronted with temptation, first asks, ‘Will I get caught?’” LOL
Really, what differences do these sexual misadventures matter when important matters confront us daily? Oh yeah, a distraction, of course. My bad.
I wouldn’t care what Casanova did in his own time if he’d just Do His Job on our dime!
Posted by: Novista | April 27, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
I used to work at State in 1966. I remember the ridiculous Foreign Service exams: Watch out for anyone who tells you what time it is, i.e. what to do, how best to live. Stte, UN what’s the diff.?
Posted by: Arnold Tracey | April 27, 2007, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Well at least he isn’t gay!
Posted by: TheRightisRight | April 27, 2007, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Give the guy a break, as former Eli Lilly CEO he was just trying to use up his Cialis prescription.
Posted by: AD | April 27, 2007, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Mike….. So what if the Secretary of State was a Lesbian? Who cares???????????? He is still a human being! Go to bed!!!!!!!
Posted by: sue | April 27, 2007, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
First name dropped was Harlan K. Ullman, co-autor of “Shock and Awe” and now this.
two names down and 46 pounds of Palfrey’s names list to go.
This will make the Monica/Clinton scandle look like a walk in the park
Posted by: Brian Cory | April 27, 2007, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
John
Yeah it does. Half of those were the old man Bush’s carryovers.
How many US military dead under Bill?
What are ya, an idiot?
Posted by: whizkid | April 27, 2007, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
So, he resigned, because he got a massage, but didn’t have any sex? I’m still wondering why Haggard bought all the methanphetamines, but “never used it”?
Republican dishonesty is just like…well, during the Viet Nam War…only more blatant, and continuous. Seems nothing comes out of the White House that isn’t an obvious lie!
Posted by: Mark | April 27, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Sue,
For your information, a lesbian is a “she” not a “he.” Now go back to repeat 8th grade and good luck.
Mike (not a lesbian but a gay man, a “he”)
Posted by: MikeP | April 27, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
At 10pm when this story broke. It a dead time for news.
Posted by: Joe | April 27, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Note as head of the President’s AIDS program, Tobias was not just “preaching abstinence,” he was responsible for spending millions of US taxpayers money to promote abstinence and fidelity around the world!
Posted by: Anne | April 27, 2007, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
As a Republican, again I hang my head in shame. We are the party of family values. And this is what our leadership gives us, base and disgusting abuse of power and sleazy animals.
Posted by: Shellgame | April 27, 2007, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
“I did not have sexual relations with THAT woman, Miss Lewinsky” — President of the United States ——- Do we want any more of the Bush and Clinton sleaze? No! ELECT BARACK OBAMA so there’ll be no more sex scandals! Down with Hillary’s enbabling… ………………..
Posted by: Barack Obama Supporter | April 27, 2007, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
WOW!! Please tell me that everyone who has posted a judgmental remark about this has never done anything wrong! You’re honestly not going to tell me I live in a country where only politicians do this stuff, and not the ordinary american guy/girl. Please, GROW UP.
Posted by: redrose | April 27, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
And, in bipartisan spirit, I must add that this has a familiar ring. “I did NOT have sex with that woman.”
Posted by: Anne | April 27, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
To respond to someone’s question as to why this is ABC’s top story it’s because the Deputy Secretary of State resigned and there’s a pretty good reason he did!
And massages only? Give me a break!
Posted by: Richard | April 27, 2007, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
From J. Edgar Hoover to Falwell to Gingrich to the pedophile Priest epidemic to O’Reilly to Gannon to Foley to Haggard to Tobias … sexually-repressed hypocrites one and all. It never ends.
Attention Republicans: GET A ROOM! Then maybe … just maybe you can lighten up and stop telling everyone how to lead their personal lives.
Posted by: obsessed | April 27, 2007, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
If not for the blatant hypocracy, this would not be a story. Those who write of “Democrats Witch Hunts” have forgotten all the Republican “investigations” during the Clinton years. Even those who helped fund and support those horrible fictional tales have come out and expressed regret and admitted they were wrong.
Posted by: Delores M. Nickel | April 27, 2007, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
For all that say this is not a big deal. Just image how a married man can be blackmailed. Have you ever wondered how the republicans and the Bush crew keep everyone in lock step. I bet this is just the tip, drip drip drip
Posted by: Tomg | April 27, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Just a massage huh? I remember when Chuck Robb invented that alibi. No one believed him either.
Posted by: Disturbance | April 27, 2007, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
This is impossible. Republicans are all good Christians. Stop bashing these guardians of the public morals.
Posted by: Misha | April 27, 2007, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Cheer up, GOP.
At least these escorts were women.
Posted by: Madness | April 27, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
It doesn’t matter what we believe as to the political party we support or deny, men and woman are human and not perfect. We can claim irresponsibility, disgust and unethical for what we accept today as normal. Look at what a book familiar to most referencing soddom and gomorrah, and determine if our world today is similar. What happened then?
Posted by: GodIsStillInControl | April 27, 2007, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Oh my God, like don’t we have better things in life to worry about. Impeach BUSH should be our first worry!!!!! They spend more time on escorts then they to on child molesters and rapist. What he does behind closed doors is his own business unless the girl was not under age. This country is backwards.
Posted by: valerie | April 27, 2007, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
LOL give it a rest! We are at war and you dolts are worried about this? !
Posted by: Guilty as Charged | April 27, 2007, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
There are plenty of real massage therapists around, who work for health clubs, etc., if that’s all the idiot wanted.
Sadly, suppose the guy really didn’t do anything “wrong” besides the appearance? Still, if you want to be DEPSECSTATE you should know what to avoid.
Is this the same guy who used to be a big shot at AT&T?
Posted by: David | April 27, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Speaking of escorts, not a single reporter has yet asked any Administration official who Jeff Gannon’s john in the White House was. But Karl Rove does serve a lovely quail on the porch of his historical cabin.
No matter how many scandals come out of this Republican Admnistration, no matter how profound the hypocrisy, corruption (which by now makes the Teapot Dome look like petty theft), damage to the country’s democratic institutions, harm to national strategic interests, and even just plain war crimes, the media-Republican DC-establishment clique can be relied upon to let every scandal and issue slide after brief token coverage.
Even if they were forced to sit through ten consecutive screenings of Moyers’ documentary, alternating with raw footage of war casualties, not a hint of self-questioning would stirr in the heart of the good Bushie lapdogs also known as the DC press corps. Their souls are dead.
Posted by: mz | April 27, 2007, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
What did USAID’s Inspector General know and when did he know it? Who else is involved?
Posted by: Stuwart | April 27, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Massages with happy endings?
Posted by: JoshA | April 27, 2007, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Pretty soon it will be Condi, Laura and George, no one else left in town. Then we will find out how they settle their love triangle.
Posted by: HaHaHa | April 27, 2007, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Reading ABC is like reading National Inquirer. Is there realy any difference any more.
Guess there were no democrats on this list, or indedendents, or libertarians.
Americans have dropped to a new low.
Posted by: Lee | April 27, 2007, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
This whole country should be ashamed.
We need to lead moral lives. What kind of example are we to our children. Bring back decency in America…………..
Posted by: Andie | April 27, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
So much for traditional family values. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman, and a “happy ending” massage on the side? Totally Rich! It’s time to empty Washington and scrub it down with bleach.
Posted by: Marmota Monax | April 27, 2007, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Why should Madame P. go up the river for a bunch of pasty, white, happy ending craved, middle-aged men?
Posted by: Arnold Tracey | April 27, 2007, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Let me get this straight. Some old guy hires an escort and it’s front page breaking news…but I have to hunt to find the story on this site where Iraqis are saying that Baghdad is starting to be safer because of our troop surge?
You know, it’s not a sin to report the news about us winning.
Posted by: Rob K. | April 27, 2007, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Wow, looking over the comments that are dismissive and apologetic towards Tobias – which are obviously written by rightwingers; I am just amazed by how utterly void of morality and shame these kind of peoploe are. Just shocking that people can be so twisted.
Posted by: bloggy | April 27, 2007, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Another one down – how many more to go?
Posted by: Marcel | April 27, 2007, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Yet another “conservative” hypocrit bites the dust.
Posted by: John Tate | April 27, 2007, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
“As the Bush administration’s so-called “AIDS ,” Tobias was criticized for emphasizing ‘faithfulness’ and ‘abstinence’ over condom use to prevent the spread of AIDS.”
oh the hypocrisy of this moral rightist tis to laugh
Posted by: Brian Cory | April 27, 2007, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Why should Madame P. go up the river for a bunch of pasty, white, happy ending craved, middle-aged men?
Posted by: Arnold Tracey | April 27, 2007, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
You all miss the real story. Were any secrets compromised. This is Basic Spy 101.
Posted by: bding | April 28, 2007, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Bush and the Republicans are imploding.
I’s all falling apart on them. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
Posted by: mark sorah | April 28, 2007, 12:18 am 12:18 am
It’s the last paragraph that makes this one so priceless.
Posted by: visitor | April 28, 2007, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Our constitution allows us to impeach.
If ever there was a time that impeachment has been justified it is now.
IMPEACH BUSH
IMPEACH CHENNEY
Posted by: IAN | April 28, 2007, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Perhaps Senator Jessie Helms was correct. The whole rotten agency (USAID)should be merged into the State Department. What has it accomplished lately?
Posted by: Everette | April 28, 2007, 12:38 am 12:38 am
you know folks… whats really amazing here is , we have full grown adults … mature in many ways.. but for the strangest reason , they cant seem to run the government to save their souls…. as a matter of fact , I’ve seen kindergarten kids take better control of things… maybe our so called “HIGH-ON-THE-LADDER-OFFICIALS” need to get their learnings from the short people . Atleast a bunch of people wouldnt be getting shafted in the meaning of “DO AS I SAY , NOT AS I DO” … such a pity ! ! !
Posted by: dreams | April 28, 2007, 12:42 am 12:42 am
‘Well – There’s nothing stating that only Republicans used this service.’
No but Dems aren’t the ones demanding an emphasis on faithfulness and abstinence over condom use to prevent the spread of AIDS in Africa. I think you are also missing something else. You think those central american girls were legal immigrants? Or are they essentially indentured sex slaves? Remember, this is the guy in charge of America’s international aid and development assistance to countries around the world, and he’s frolicking w/ 3rd world sex slaves.
Posted by: arch stanton | April 28, 2007, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Condemning a man for having sex with a woman is like condemning a man for being a man. Men cannot help it. It’s in their genes to procreate, procreate, procreate. This has been going on for thousands and thousands of years and it will continue to go on for thousands more. Why are these men losing their jobs and everything else because of something they have no control over as much as they have control over breathing or needing food. The only answer here is understanding the male species. YES, WE ARE ANIMALS AFTER ALL, OR DO WE REALLY BELIEVE WE ARE ABOVE ANIMAL BEHAVIOR? This is just absurd. Why are people surprised every time this happens? Let’s get real, because this is a fact of life that will never change. Get used to it.
AT LEAST WITH HILLARY, WE DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR FROM A FEMALE PRESIDENT.
Posted by: Dr. Nicole | April 28, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Central American Maid and Escort Service?
Posted by: x | April 28, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Will ABC news be releasing one high profile republican name each week? Out of 40 some pounds of client in Washington, what? No dems? pleeeese… No bias there huh?
Posted by: John | April 28, 2007, 12:55 am 12:55 am
Don’t worry Johnie. Sooner or later that list will find its way to the internet and some hacker will write a ten line program that crosschecks the list against every phone database in their possession.
Posted by: x | April 28, 2007, 1:02 am 1:02 am
My My My
Wonderful these people!
They preach one thing and do another!
Posted by: Karen | April 28, 2007, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Has ABC News contacted USAID’s Regional Inspector General’s Office in Central America to find out what the link is to the Central American call girls? If they can’t give you a straight answer, then why does USAID have an office there? Aren’t they supposed to be investigating these things?
Posted by: Tim | April 28, 2007, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Learn a lesson GOP, everytime u lash out this will happen, everytime. You are not the moral God’s anymore.
Posted by: BruntLIVE | April 28, 2007, 1:35 am 1:35 am
You Americans never cease to amaze me. Why on earth is prostitution illegal? Aren’t you meant to be the land of the free?
Posted by: sue | April 28, 2007, 1:43 am 1:43 am
So what’s with all these people saying that this is this guy’s private business? Oh yeah? Apparently the irony that this hypocrite “had previously served as the ambassador for the President’s Emergency Fund for AIDS Relief” is too complex for their simple minds? Seriously, how thoroughly corrupt does this administration have to be for the people who elect them -repeatedly- to wake up??
Posted by: ZTrip | April 28, 2007, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Lord have mercy on us!
Posted by: Joshua | April 28, 2007, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Wasn’t there a scandal in August 2003 affecting USAID?
Posted by: Jeff | April 28, 2007, 1:52 am 1:52 am
HA HA HA HA HA HA….Stop it! Stop it! You guys are killing me!
So Tobias is leaving the State Department for personal reasons..Must be to look after aging parents!
Posted by: Lakeman | April 28, 2007, 1:53 am 1:53 am
USAID should be abolished as an Agency. It serves no real good purpose and has accomplished nothing in Iraq.
Posted by: Titanic | April 28, 2007, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Another hipocrite same message. “Don´t do as I do, do as I say.”
Posted by: Sergio | April 28, 2007, 2:03 am 2:03 am
This sort of behavior is typical of what goes on at USAID at taxpayer’s expense. I wonder if Tobias put his charges on his expense report.
Posted by: Bob | April 28, 2007, 2:09 am 2:09 am
“The GOP are not moral Gods anymore?”, Hypocrisy of a Haggard! Ha! The white house has NEVER seen such a gang of crooks as this administration before. Impeach them now, the United States and the world can NOT afford to wait while one more person needlessly dies for the profit of the likes of Halliburton, Blackwater, etc.
Posted by: Tom | April 28, 2007, 2:28 am 2:28 am
We have reached a point of an epidemic.
Sex and whatever else is not really wrong but its people’s private business, and when you have someone who is an AMBASSADOR doing this kind of garbage…..
It is not only immoral, it is downright THREATENING to the constitution and national security
This is because they are IN THE CLOSET!!!!! They are NOW out in the open about the fact they use all these escort services, and they DONT do natural drugs they do LSD!!!!
And you don’t think that gives a local foreign official an IDEA to maybe blackmail the HELL OUT OF THEM!????!
Dream on!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its happening everywhere!!! These people are blackmailed poodles now because of this disease, and this is a disease!!
These republicans are the worst party of moral values ever in the world!!!!
Some democrats are like that but hell, I’ve never seen a part so full of hypocrites. Meet the GOP!
Posted by: An Epidemic | April 28, 2007, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Pop quiz: Who’s more immoral? The married guy who gets “massages” from escort services, or a gay couple that is faithful to each other?
Actually, don’t answer.
Posted by: Big Surprise | April 28, 2007, 2:46 am 2:46 am
The poor man should be left alone. Who cares if he go a massage? Shame on ABC for not minding their own business.
Posted by: DudeAsInCool | April 28, 2007, 2:50 am 2:50 am
As far as the “what’s wrong with escorts” or “it’s a free country” crowd. Are you kidding? what kind of pathetic loser orders up escorts. Oh he switched to “central americans”. you mean sex slaves. Prostitution is not a normal thing and no one I know would admit to using one. It is rediculous that the DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE, In charge of aids programs is using illegal aliens as prostitutes. that is why this is a story.
What’s the big deal indeed. You may want prostitution to be legal. Even if it was you would still be a big time loser to use one. It would still be morally corrupt, especially for the deputy secretary of state.
Posted by: thereyago | April 28, 2007, 3:08 am 3:08 am
The human race has nary an understanding of itself, or nary enough compassion for itself. In the end, we will end up destroying one another due to our shame, lack of empathy and inability to help people heal the wounds of their childhoods. Truly, though modernism reins in appearance, we are always teetering on the abyss of the ancient mindset, where everything is “good” “evil” “god” “anti-god.” It takes strength and courage to continue to have empathy for others when they do not have empathy for themselves. I hope that we all can muster up the ability to do that before creating the next cycle of wound and counter wound.
Posted by: Cristobal | April 28, 2007, 3:25 am 3:25 am
So, central americans aren’t americans? was he using women who were working illegally. How could USAID have a man like Tobais head the agency for a year? What happened to all the work that USAID does around the world saving women from trafikking, preventing AIDS, improving employment opportunities for women? If I want a massage, the I go to a beauty salon!! BTW US Government’s development work around the world is criticised by the other development agencies, NGOs and local populations. I think, the US Government can truely improve its image by just asking its people to act decently and just stay out of other nation’s lives.
Posted by: s | April 28, 2007, 4:25 am 4:25 am
All this from the party that was going to bring morality and family values back to Washington.
I nominate Tobias for this year’s Bill Bennett Prize for Personal Ethics in Government.
Posted by: Dale Peterson | April 28, 2007, 4:26 am 4:26 am
The problem with the Republicans is that there are too many Libertarians in the woodpile. The Dems always point out that not all Republicans are Christian conservatives. BUT. At least there are some people left in the Republican Party who know right from wrong. The Democrat Party is a total loss. Possibly with the exception of Robert Bird.
Posted by: Sean | April 28, 2007, 4:36 am 4:36 am
something about rocks and glass houses comes to mind at the moment.
Posted by: myhotness | April 28, 2007, 4:48 am 4:48 am
This is amazing… Let’s see this is scandal number what 25.
Everything happens at Friday @ 5:00. Isn’ this the same group that proclaimed they were for “family values”!
* We have the Senators chasing the young Page – scandal
* Abrahoff – Bribery Scandal
* Who outed the CIA Agent – Scooter Libby – scandal
* Who lied about Pat Tilman- friendly fire – Scandal
* Jessica is Rambo – scandal
* Wolfowitz – (not part of the administration any more – but still has close ties- pay your mistress big money scandal)
* Cheney shoots someone while hunting – don’t call the police or ambulance – call Carl Rove first – scandal
* Haliburton – no bid contract scandal
* Fire the Attorney Generals – for performance issues ( even though you just promoted someof them last week) SCANDAL
* BIGGEST OF all LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO GET US INTO THE WAR – killing thousands of US Service MEN — for nothing
Posted by: Traci, Atlanta, GA | April 28, 2007, 6:21 am 6:21 am
ABC, is this REALLY breaking news????
Posted by: Eve | April 28, 2007, 6:42 am 6:42 am
It does my heart good to see that Republicans are finally sanctioning adultery. Newt, Rudy, and Randy are shining examples for American children. It is important for our youth to understand that eternal salvation is not obtained through morality. God loves everybody, even the Republican Adulterers.
Posted by: Tudy Stench | April 28, 2007, 6:45 am 6:45 am
ABC News? What a joke!!! They are just an extension of the Democratic Party!! Instead of working on real issues for our country the Dems and ABC run around making a stupid story their top item. How pathetic of a news organization can you be??
Posted by: Mike | April 28, 2007, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Dems may have used this service but they don’t preach about abstinence and no condoms use like the reps do.
Posted by: Beverly | April 28, 2007, 7:12 am 7:12 am
I really do not want to see major news organizations, who did such a fabulous job of covering the build up to the Iraq war, waste what little airtime and investigative resources they have exploring the non-news value sexual habits of public officials or private citizens. It is one thing if we are dealing with someone who misuses public funds or property in pursuit of sex, goes after minors, or is an on-the-record “family values” hypocrital gas bag like Newt Gingrich. This guy is just some rich dude calling women on his own cell phone to come to his own apartment. It sounds like, unlike most patronage lackeys, he actually took a real government job with a real purpose and was doing some good until ABC started this CIA-like review of phone lists. I am usually a fan of Ross’ work, but this is petty and stupid.
Posted by: Tom Greenfield | April 28, 2007, 7:13 am 7:13 am
We are one of the very few cultures in the world holding this puritanical view. To ask families to live in separate venues is not right. To never have any physical contact with another human is unhealthy. Infants and the elderly suffer from failure to thrive syndrome when deprived of physical contact.
We just have so many horrible and inhuman issues in the world to indulge in this voyeuristic attitude to some insignificant act by consenting adults behind closed doors, with or without a condom!!!
Posted by: Su | April 28, 2007, 7:24 am 7:24 am
The issue here is hypocricy and conspiracy of silence both. It is comical that a “Madam” has cracked their armor wide open when standard rhetoric would have just gone by on page 12. I predict a gag order on the Madam and the load she and others may have; Don’t expect “names” because media is “in it”. They will throw her in for tax evasion eventually and she will write a book or make a movie called, “Moral Misogynists”.
Posted by: Monopolist | April 28, 2007, 7:35 am 7:35 am
Just follow this simple rule as regards this administration – There are Weapons of Mass Destruction = There are NOT weapons of mass destruction.
Compassionate conservatism – screw the little guy
Abstinence = screw everybody
Posted by: Parnell | April 28, 2007, 7:47 am 7:47 am
So when are the alleged working girls going to testify before congress?
Posted by: Rondo | April 28, 2007, 7:49 am 7:49 am
If Tobias had only called Ted Haggard, he could have got a massage and crystal meth at the same time while professing to practice abstinence.
Posted by: LewScannon | April 28, 2007, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Funny how pub supporters wanted to crucify and impeach one guy for having sex but now try to condone this Bush admin officials actions by saying “Clinton did it”. The river of Hypocricy has poured over it’s banks. You people are pathetic!!!
Posted by: Skippy | April 28, 2007, 8:00 am 8:00 am
GET A GRIP,
Posted by: scott | April 28, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am
To those who have been comparing the GOP,
and its’ sexual misdeeds with Clinton, give me
a break!! The issue at hand is hypocrasy! Bill
Clinton did not run in ’92 or in ’96 on a platform of “family values”. He did not say, “look at me, Jesus wanted me to be elected”! That is the difference here. These neocons, and their “leader” told the country and the world that they were of top moral character. That they would “restore honor and integrity” back to the Whitehouse! They called Bill Clinton “slick willie” and told the media the the American people were “disgusted” even though Clinton had a 70% approval rating at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal!
There are states like Oklahoma that take great pride in their “morals”! Yet, over 70% of all residents to that state have been divorced at least once. Do you think that some of those ended due to infidelity? See, we in the blue states don’t pretend to be holier than thou. Many of us strive for it, but that it is a private matter and not one for the state or the country to hold up as a banner! Don’t be surprised when elected/appointed officials, who have built a pillar of virtue as their party platform, get knocked off due to their hypocrasy! The new testament says alot about loving the sinner but boy do the hypocrates get it!!
Posted by: Jennifer | April 28, 2007, 8:05 am 8:05 am
70 % of all married women and 40 % of all married men will cheat on their spouces at least once. I never have but it has happened to me. It isn’t the end of the world for someone to have nameless, emotionless passion with someone. Perhaps we should be expending our energy working on the education and health care crisis in our nation instead of whether the AIDS czar got a little on the side. No matter what, it’s still the greatest country in the world.
Posted by: scott | April 28, 2007, 8:06 am 8:06 am
Give the “list” to Al-Jazeera, someone suggested? What a terrorizing thought!
Posted by: EvianFan | April 28, 2007, 8:08 am 8:08 am
I can,t stop laughing no sex only a massage ha,ha,ha,ha what does he think we are brain dead lets not make him ma saint he got caught that is the bottomm line and everyone said exPresident Clinton was sick remember when you spit up it comes back down to your face
Posted by: redmama58 | April 28, 2007, 8:11 am 8:11 am
OKAY! Be advised, having a massage is suspect. So, get your wife to do it – ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A POLITICIAN. Someone spoke to the “women at the well” about abstinence. He also said it IS illegal to run a “sexual fantasy business” – it’s lustful. His answer: He told the woman at the well to take a drink from His well. “Without Me you can do nothing”.
Posted by: iyaiyaiya | April 28, 2007, 8:18 am 8:18 am
The Republican Party continues their reign as the High Priests of Hypocrisy.
Posted by: Wade F. Godot | April 28, 2007, 8:29 am 8:29 am
the age of arrogance is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ordinary people started to get smart when katrina struck and everyone got to see what happens when incompetence rules…..everything that happened after that lead to imus and he was the tipping point…..people who do arrogant things do them because they CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it is over…..the age of reason is here…..now…..and hopefully for a long time.
Posted by: anne | April 28, 2007, 8:30 am 8:30 am
What a relief to be rid of this guy. It’s been incredibly frustrating working under someone who doesn’t know how to manage, has no vision, no leadership, and doesn’t understand how development or saving lives works.
Posted by: Key | April 28, 2007, 8:34 am 8:34 am
He did not have sex with her? What was he paying her for then? Probably something really kinky. I hope there’s video. Maybe it will show up on YouTube. I wonder how he paid her. Maybe he used a government credit card or account of some other kind that ultimately has taxpayers paying for his non-sexual escapades.
Posted by: Bruce Fealk | April 28, 2007, 8:34 am 8:34 am
The hypocrisy is a trait of Democrats and liberals. This man resigned. Did Bill Clinton ? She has over 10,000 numbers do you honestly think, they are all Republican ? I suspect ABC will only release the Republican names, then when the story dies down, you’ll find all the Democrats hidden on some obscure news site or on page 8 of your newspaper. It’s a common trait of bias media. Example: “Case Against Haditha Marines Falls Apart” Murtha should apologize.
Posted by: Junebug | April 28, 2007, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Prostitution should be made safe and legal. They should criminalize the use of marijuana. We should only attack other countries when they pose a real threat. When will these guys wake up? There is a crisis here. Inept leadership and hypocrisy for certain.
Posted by: kind person | April 28, 2007, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Opps! that should read decriminalize
Posted by: kind person | April 28, 2007, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Do you suppose the Central American women were what Bush refers to as “guest workers?”
Posted by: Farrapo | April 28, 2007, 8:47 am 8:47 am
I did not have sex with that hooker
Posted by: LOL!!! | April 28, 2007, 8:49 am 8:49 am
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone …
John 8:7
Posted by: Robert E ODonnell | April 28, 2007, 8:52 am 8:52 am
The inconvenient truth is The Clintons don’t run for office on a family values platform. Neither does Al Gore. We know also that if we don’t promote family values we’ll have more of the same egalitarianism. Family values is a republican issue – to their credit. It is an ideal that has merit. Stop and think: If we were to condemn “sexual fantasy businesses” wouldn’t it be a better atmosphere for “family values”. Just like the liberals have a phrase, “pornication – everybody’s doing it”, the preservatives have a phrase, “family values – everybody’s doing it”.
Posted by: No, No, No! | April 28, 2007, 8:55 am 8:55 am
I agree with Motran. It’s a shame somebody’s career can be ruined just because they paid for sex.
I’m a happily married man, but if we were honest about it, you have to admit that all sex is paid for, even between married couples.
If you don’t believe it, just let the husband stop paying the mortgage or stop bringing his check home and see how cold it gets in the bedroom.
Our finite law enforcement resources and court time could be much better spent on violent crime instead of wasting taxpayer dollars prosecuting consenting adults.
Posted by: Ovid Goode | April 28, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am
There is no limit to the GOP double-standards. They obviously don’t want us to do as they do; they only want us to do as they say…
It’s time for revolution. Let’s take back our government and demand they focus on government and not the private lives of the citizenry.
Posted by: amizrachi | April 28, 2007, 9:15 am 9:15 am
“The Blotter has become the Inside Edition and must have several connect moles inside. First it was Foley, whom after they got the goods, contacted him and he resigned. Now Tobias.
Being that Palfrey is being actively investigated, ABC once again may in legal jepardy if they continue to name potential witness (ex-playas). You may just see a federal jugde throw down a “gag” order.
Yet I wonder who else’s name IN WASHINGTON is in a hookers appointment book. I’m going to personally guarantee that it’s not even close to being all Republicans.
But is this what Washington has come to now, exposing the obvious?
Meanwhile, the enemies of the US plan our demise. Can anyone say “Fiddling while Rome Burned”?”
Posted by: jack moss | April 28, 2007, 9:21 am 9:21 am
This is just one of many signs that Jesus is coming soon. Are you ready? Has your windows been cleaned? Are you without sin, then cast the first stone!
Posted by: Mr Gadget | April 28, 2007, 9:23 am 9:23 am
No problem . . . Bill Clinton made sexual misconduct politically irrelevant. It will be fun to see how the Democrats tackle this one.
Posted by: rplat | April 28, 2007, 9:24 am 9:24 am
LEGALIZE the oldest profession in history and forget it. There’s always going to be SEX and ‘sex scandals’ get over it. There are no more Statesmen in Washington. If the Media were involved back when WHO KNOWS… as an informed independent voter I see no end to the washington GAME and the media spin. Someday the real majority will wake up and clean HOUSE and SENATE. Untill then deal with the SPIN.
Posted by: Jerome R | April 28, 2007, 9:27 am 9:27 am
by “no sex” I take it he means there were no “happy endings” on those massages either …… riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Posted by: Paula | April 28, 2007, 9:34 am 9:34 am
“Tobias, 65, director of U.S. Foreign Assistance and administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development…”
“…. Tobias, who is married, said there had been “no sex,” and that recently he had been using another service “with Central Americans” to provide massages…”
——————————
Umm, Randy, I don’t think that’s what they mean by Foreign Assistance.
Posted by: FMC | April 28, 2007, 9:43 am 9:43 am
lol@Republicans trying to make this about Clinton.
Posted by: Jack | April 28, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am
These folks on here who are “outraged” because this republican leader has been “outed” due to his sleazy lifestyle are pervs too or they wouldn’t be so upset.
If the dude REALLY “needed a message” for his back problems- why the hell didn’t he go to the Chiropractor like normal people?? C’Mon.
Anyone claiming to be a republican is a true blue hypocrite of the worse kind-they scream about Clinton-but hey, they are the ones making rules for the rest of us that they can’t even follow themselves!!
Republicans SUPPORT the illegal activities of their “Prez” and his minions which means they support criminals!
Posted by: DC Madame | April 28, 2007, 9:50 am 9:50 am
There are laws against this sort of thing – ten of um. But, Jesus Christ says, “Because crime and lawlessness increase, many men’s love will grow cold. And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world, then the end will come”. In our constitution our public officials were not meant to be priests, but to insure that the true priests (fathers, husbands, soldiers, etc.) are provided with the proper atmosphere in which to operate.
Posted by: answerman | April 28, 2007, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Is that anything like smoking marijuana and not inhaling it? Yeah OK massage no sex. It happens everywhere republicans democrats. Hold them accountable for what they do. I wonder what list President Bush is on!!!!!!
Posted by: val fields | April 28, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Hey Mr. or Ms. Rplat,
The Bill Clinton story is ancient history. Move on to the here and now. YOUR president hires people who are hypocrites.
Posted by: rplatresponse | April 28, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Does anybody know the name of this website?????????
Posted by: Howard | April 28, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Newt Gingrich said about Clinton that if a man’s wife can’t trust him that he can’t be trusted to run the country.
At the time he was having an affair with the woman that became his third wife. I take it he will not run because he has already admitted he can’t be trusted :)
I also bet his name is on this list.
Posted by: Mike | April 28, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Why the big screech of “hypocrite?” Let’s take an adult perspective on this, people.
The Tobias is a hypocrite, or sounds like he is. Fair enough.
But…
ALL MORALISTS ARE HYPOCRITES. If not in one way, then in another.
Let’s face it, there are two attitudes a human being can possibly have with respect to moral guidelines: (1.) Have none, or only have ones which are so loose and easily achieved as to not be worth mentioning, or, (2.) Have “high ideals” and fall short of them.
Posted by: R.C. | April 28, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am
This is a non story, as are all stories about consentual sex……but the Republicans deserve to be outed after their gleeful exposé of Clinton’s little fling.
Posted by: shz | April 28, 2007, 11:21 am 11:21 am
So it’s okay for Clinton to lie about his activities with “that woman, Miss Lewinsky” but this guy has to step down? I don’t get it.
Posted by: Jason | April 28, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Since this is the top story, does this mean that this man’s story is more relevant and more important to our country than: HEALTH CARE? PRESCRIPTION DRUGS? HOMELESSNESS IN AMERICA? I’m glad to finally see what ABC news editors believe this nations’ news readers should be focused on. Do I really care who screwed who in a hotel room? What’s the next “TOP” story? Monkeys eating bananas in Brazil? Oh no!!!!
Posted by: Joe | April 28, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am
I don’t get the accusations here that Republicans are somehow guilty of institutional hypocrisy. Do I see Republicans defending this guy? Not really, except in comparison to how Democrats have gotten off (sorry) over the years. Do Republicans claim to be perfect? Hardly: to the extent that Republicans tend to be more religious, they understand that every person is flawed, and the best we can do is to sincerely try to do better. But they also believe that people need to be held accountable for actions like Tobias’.
Tobias screwed up and he resigned, and you don’t see Republicans circling the wagons. Not exactly what we’ve seen from Democrats over the last 30 years.
Posted by: Ottoman Umpire | April 28, 2007, 11:54 am 11:54 am
The hypocrisy of this administration reaches to high heaven. At least democrats don’t claim a monopoly on morality as do republicans who would have us believe they invented God. They preach morality and conservatism just so they can get elected and pursue their other nefarious goals. As the bible says: They have a form of Godliness but deny the power therof.
Posted by: Okibe Obande | April 28, 2007, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
He was not solicitating sex. Republicans have values, remember?
What he was trying to do is persuade these fallen girls to turn their lives around, to find god and to embrace GOP values.
And if you don’t believe that you are a mean liberal who attacks conservatives for political reasons.
Posted by: Gandhi | April 28, 2007, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
if all our govement admin official were to tell the truth democrats an republican. about sexlife with eachs other husbands an wifes .there be no one left.
Posted by: clive | April 28, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
or did ABC News already interview and publish the names of all ita employees and those of its parent companies? That would seem the ethical thing to do before destroying the professional and private lives of others in its enthusiasm to get headlines.
Posted by: didImisssomething | April 28, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
WHY DON’T YOU BRING THIS ISSUE UP ON YOUR SHOW, THE NO SPIN ZONE, MR. O’REILY? OH, WAIT IS IT BECAUSE YOU TOO ARE A REPUBLICAN?
Posted by: Frank | April 28, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Here’s the deal: Let’s all pretend that all these people are saints.
When some scandal happens let’s all pretend that the other party’s candidates would never stoop so low. Then we wait a few years and see the same issue again & again.
Bottom line is, they pretend to be saints to win votes. And all the voters are the morons to believe in the fact that these people are saints. Sorry to burst your bubble folks…go back and drink your milk & cookies & don’t act so naive & surprised. If the priests can’t be trusted & the school teachers are do’n it….then why not a politician? It’s not like anyone voted for this guy anyways? Thw taxpayers overpaid ‘em….and he lavishly spent it on booz & women….can you blame him? Voters are accountable for their actions…not politicians.
Posted by: Mr. FACTUAL | April 28, 2007, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
I find it ironic that even the staunchest defenders of this government’s right to dictate who can or can’t marry whom based on sexual preference and whether or not women should have control over their own choice about reproduction,…and yes even those who made the most out of Clinton’s affair with Ms. Lewinski are now the very same people first to give rise to the chant of “whatever goes on behind closed doors is nobody’s business”.
Pick one side of the argument or the other, please. But stop using it selectively for your own selective interests.
In America, all being equal, we need to either back off on persecuting people making personal choices or judge them all by them.
Not one, then the other based on political alliances.
Posted by: Zach | April 28, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Personally I think prostitution should be legalized in all 50 states. It is silly that it isn’t. I agree that most politicians are hypocrites. This lady is a smart cookie and it sounds like she is going to take down a lot of people if they don’t get her off the hook.
Heidi Fleiss could have gotten off if she did this and made a lot of money to boot! If you “play 2 pay” you have to take the consequences that come with it. Or simply move to an area where prostitution is legal.
Posted by: John Doe | April 28, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
I think that you lose credibility by selectively releasing names. All or nothing. Otherwise you risk being seen as playing favorites or politics.
Posted by: OBQuiet | April 28, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Randall L. Tobias should take memory lessons from the “Great Gonzo” another “shining paragon of virtue”. Hey, Randall, it goes like this, “I don’t recall that happening…, I have no recollection…, I don’t remember…,” etc.
Another good one, Randy Randall, goes like this, “I didn’t do it…, if I did do it, I didn’t mean to do it…,” and “If I wanted to do it, the Devil tempted me to do it…” and “The Devil made me do it”!!
Practice your crying and wailing like Jimmy Sweigart, Ted Haggerty and all the “self-rightious” saints in the Salvation revival with you. You can make a big production of your contrition and, taa daa, your forgiveness will be complete. Since you are a “LOYAL REPUBLICAN”, you can fake it convincingly enough and you will be welcome back into the fold.
Yeah, yeah, I know, you’re right, don’t forget the Dems, a good many of them did the same!!!
Question: Was it worth it?
Good night and …luck (good or bad)! You shouldda stayed outta D.C..
Posted by: lasvegasdevildog | April 28, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Well looky looky… the “Morality Police” are out in force today! If Paltrey hadn’t been arrested, Tobias wouldn’t be out of a job!
This country is at war alright..it’s at war with itself.
Posted by: Looken | April 28, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
This Brian Ross has nothing better to investigate than the private lives of consenting adults.
Find a real victim and expose the perpetrator.
Posted by: Jak | April 28, 2007, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Prostitution SHOULD be legal. Keeping it illegal certainly doesn’t STOP it happening, does it? ..but it DOES criminalise the workers, and that makes it easy for others to abuse them with little fear of them turning to the law enforcement agencies for the protection they should have.
Posted by: ronnie | April 28, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
thank you very nice topic, thankks :)
Posted by: emlak | April 28, 2007, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Also, Jak,
“This Brian Ross has nothing better to investigate than the private lives of consenting adults.”
Don’t blame the messenger for the Republican’s mess!
Posted by: annemarie | April 28, 2007, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
The reason his personal sexual business is our business is that he is part of an administration that actively seeks to impose their morals on the rest of us. He wants his privacy but his administration does not recognize a right to privacy. The Democrats do not want to criminalize sex. They are not seeking to to dismantle sex ed. programs. They do not want to criminalize gay relations. They are not seeking to impose Christianity on the rest of the country, the rest of the world even. This is why the public gave Bill Clinton a pass. If Clinton had supported antisodomy laws, then that would have been hypocrisy. That’s the difference. People that want to read an eye-opening book about the new Christian nationalism should get “Kingdom Coming” by Michelle Goldberg. Get a copy and loan it out to friends. It’s that good.
Posted by: mike k | April 28, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Why did ABC, who was giving the list, target this one lawmaker? If there are 10,000 names, I’m sure they could have found at least two top lawmakers, a Republican and a Democrat, to interview.
But no, ABC only goes after a Republican. Let’s be fair about this. Besides, didn’t the judge in this case say NOT to release the names? What does ABC think, that they are above the law?
This will just allow the madam in this case to get off scot-free for her tax evasion, since the judge will most likely now have to throw the case out.
Posted by: Slip | April 28, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Wow! It’s easy to pick out the republican neocons. Reminds me of the joke about Southern Baptist. They recongize each other everwhere but the liquor store!
Posted by: Jim Rowell | April 28, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Slip,
They covered it because he resigned. I’m sure more will follow. I’m sure both parties. However, when the side that is acting like they never do a thing and have all fantastic morals above the other side gets caught – then it is somewhat bigger news. Somehow on here most republican’s that really took after Clinton seem to hold double standards when their side is caught at it. Now it’s all ABC’s fault! Somebody tell me the rules! I can not keep them striaght!!!
Posted by: Susan | April 28, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Why is abc and brian ross only
releasing selected names from the
escort service list?
To be fair and unbiased, release
all or none of the names.
Posted by: Nancy | April 28, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Why didn’t the ‘press’ release all the names?
Posted by: airandee | April 28, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Republicans suck!!!
Posted by: RAF | April 28, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
The hypocracy is that this is the man who declared, and wrote into policy that prostitution was degrading and inhumane. This is the man who oversaw the Absitance and Be faithful programs throughout Africa, creating severe condom shortages; this is the man who closed down proven successful HIV prevention programs for sex workers across the world and has overseen discriminatory programs to ensure that sex workers who are positive do not get proper access to ARV’s. Yet he’s got call girls in his apartment.
Posted by: Andrew Hunter | April 28, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
I wish I am rich enough to be in the Madam’s list
Posted by: alex | April 28, 2007, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I hope that reporters don’t let this massage excuse stand–it does substantial harm to all legitimate therapists to link them with the escort industry. In Washington DC (as in most places in the US) massage requires a license.
Licensed massage therapists/practitioners typically charge in the $50 to $100/hour range. Many licensed massage therapists advertise in the yellow pages or can be found via a web search. There is no legitimate reason to call an “escort service” and pay $275/session “to have gals come over to the condo to give me a massage”.
Posted by: Ken | April 28, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
It’s funny how so many GOP(ers) always seem to bring up Clinton when another Rep get caught up in a scandal. These are the same people who thought Clinton was SO immoral for his actions (and he was). It’s funny how things change when the shoe is on the other foot. The GOP(ers) always push to be the party of “family Values” but, they can not seem to value their own families. I guess he’ll be in “rehab” next week for alcoholism.
And why is it that GOP(ers) aka Bushies only seem to resign on Friday evenings?
And will ANY true Republican ever admit publicly that Bush administration had ruined the GOP party and the country reputation over the last four.
Posted by: Kaycee | April 28, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
It took me 23 seconds to scan down to this comments section. Every idot has had his/her chance to make a comment. None have really fogured out what this is all about – it really is ABCNews making this item into a political thing by calling it the “Bush Administration” – it seems everyone else wanted to make it a moral thing.
That is the way to go ABCNews – just about your style lately.
Posted by: morrisray001 | April 28, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Awww. Another bedroom inspector is in big trouble because he got a massage from a sex worker. Life is sooo unfair.
Methinks Randy T. and T. Haggard need to start a support group.
Posted by: aja | April 28, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Oh honestly…..are you people really concerned what this man did?….Shouldn’t we all learn a lesson from reading these comment?…Shouldn’t we be more concerned with other things that are going on in our world right now?…Honestly…you people should be ashamed of your-selves…
Posted by: Rams | April 28, 2007, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Don’t miss the most important part of this story: under Randall’s direction, USAID cut off all funding for HIV prevention in Senegal and Brazil because they wouldn’t sign “anti-prostitution” statements, they wouldn’t stop successful prevention work among commercial sex workers, and in the case of Senegal, they refused to criminalize sex work (it has been legal and regulated since the 1960s). So while Randall opposed prostitution enough to undermine successful HIV prevention, he didn’t oppose it for his own leisure activities.
Posted by: Sarah | April 28, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Why arn’t we talking about “it was on his own time”. As far as I can see he was not acting for the Admin. when he may have been having sex and it was not in a government office, as was the case with Clinton.
Posted by: bill | April 28, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Gee you think Drudge would be all over this like he was with Clinton…
Posted by: Brian Cory | April 28, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
This article shows the smugness of ABC News comfortably able to hide from possible suit for libel behind New York Times Co. v. Sullivan. Does this story count as news? Does ABC News feel a twinge of conscience about nationally “outing people” or a twinge of conscience that Ms. Palfrey played games with the Judge’s Order by hurriedly giving names to ABC News before the Order could take effect. Perhaps ABC could more profitably spend it’s time talking about the hypocrisy of prosecutions for “victimless crimes.”
Posted by: EG | April 28, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I guess the only way to get a Republican resignation or firing in the Bush administration is to expose him as being gay or find him cheating on his wife. Obviously his/her ability to do their job is of no consequence.
I guess we can only hope that Condoleeza, Gonzalez, Cheney, and Wolfowitz have their names on this Madam’s list.
Posted by: Chris from TX | April 28, 2007, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
This story has made it obvious — we should do away with sex.
Posted by: Dave in TX | April 28, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
It’s only sex, not something important like “Star Trek”.
Posted by: Tatiana Covington | April 28, 2007, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
So whats new……more “news” thats not really news.
Posted by: chad | April 28, 2007, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
names or no names,prostitution is illegal.so called massage parlors,escorts,whatever they are called.should be stopped.this is America.founded on religion.we fail to remember this.wake up people!
Posted by: elizabeth | April 28, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
@ Elizabeth
Your kidding me right??? People have the right to do as they please….yes it may have been a little dirty of him to do whatever it is that he did…..but lets not forget that not everyone in this country is of religious background and upbringing. Thats why we have a seperation of Church and State. And people like you need to open up your mind, instead of being stuck in the 1800′s
Posted by: Rams | April 28, 2007, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Ok, blame ABC news, etc. for reporting what Condoleeza Rice herself released to the news media as well as Tobias himself. You right wingers have got to lose the conspiratory liberal MSM theories. The media is not helping the left, rather, your President and his party have been granted pardons right and left. But the times are changing and now, the truth is coming out about how the right wing, who has preached to us for so long now about ‘morals’ is full of people who behave immorally. I personally could care less who gets what done to what body part and when and by whom. It’s just a wake up call that finally, the media and everyone else is on to you. Ok? Learn to live with it. You guys are history. The left is coming in and taking over and you’ll have to live w/ it for a very long time. You have GWB and Cheyney to thank. Don’t blame the messengers. If you don’t like it….move away!
Posted by: Frank | April 28, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Watch..ABC will protect all the Dem names on the list and out all the Republicans. So, the first is a Bush guy? Surprise,surprise. There’s definitely Clinton hacks and other Dems on that list. Let’s see ‘em ABC. But no, they’ll protect their allies in the Dem party.
Posted by: Teddy | April 28, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Frank ” The media is not helping the left, rather”. You really need to wake up from your deep sleep!
I notice ABC didn’t seek out a democratic; they had to show their left wing agenda to bash the republicans. I wonder what all these responses would be like if it was a democratic named (I’m sure some democratic names will come up..umm I wonder if Bill Clinton will be mentioned?) What you all think if Bill’s name comes up? HUH???? I’m sure it will fall under the category of “I didn’t inhale” and I didn’t have sex with that person”
Posted by: Christine | April 28, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I am in “shock & awe” these are our protectors who drop their pants at first opportunity.
Posted by: zarbe | April 28, 2007, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Are you for real? It’s not about Dems or Reps, it’s about a person going against the very code he was hired to enforce. It is about a former C.E.O of Eli Lilly being in that position in the Bush administration, while drug prices skyrocket. It is about Cheney,Gonzolez (who was a lawyer for Enron) and Karl (dont touch me)Rove.Does no one remember the silverado s&l scandal… it always comes up Bush,Bush,Bush. Indict the whole lot of them!
Posted by: Joe Friedman | April 28, 2007, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
OOOOOOOO, thank you Ann
Posted by: Christine | April 28, 2007, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
This is nothing new. Next week we will be talking about how Cheney had red wine with a cheeseburger instead of coke. Its the same stuff only a different generation. Roosevelt had corruption in his office and so did Grant.
Posted by: Jean Goggin | April 28, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
What is all the fuss about, stuff like every day and in every walk of life… we no longer live in the age of Ozzie and Harriet…
The only person to benefit from this is the accused her company gets millions of dollars of free publicity
Posted by: Peter | April 28, 2007, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
If he wanted a LEGITIMATE, THERAPEUTIC massage, he would have gone to or called a legally certified, licensed massage therapist, NOT a call girl service! Many folks get REAL massage, not sexual favors.
Posted by: Sheri | April 28, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Jean Goggin said “Roosevelt had corruption in his office and so did Grant.” Yes it’s most likely they did, but there’s the major difference; now we have world wide media. Both Grand and Roosevelt had ‘limited’ media coverage, limited lies being thrown upon people like now. People back then were more worried about how to put food on the table for their family then sitting down in front of their computer to type their opinions of the matter! The media has been our greatest down fall…because they can’t keep to the FACTS!
Posted by: Christine | April 28, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Once again,Brian Ross finds that a republican and nobody else does something wrong.Was this the same Brian Ross who couldn’t find any administration scandals to report on during the Clinton years?How long before we hear how many former and present advisors to the Mr. and Mrs.Clinton camp are involved?Probably never if Ross does his usual partisan hack job.
Posted by: millard fillmore | April 28, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Makes me wonder about 2 things: 1) Did he withhold the appropriate taxes for funds paid to any of the service providers; 2)would this receive the same attention if he were somehow found to be pleasuring himself, instead of hiring someone else to do the job?
Posted by: Edwards | April 28, 2007, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
“Hillary, what a joke.”
Hmmmm. I didn’t see her private cell phone number reported.
Wake up people!! I have. Conservatives have been played by a bunch of perverted crooks. Time we faced the facts. We were used and abused big time.
Posted by: Bill W. | April 28, 2007, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Whether this guy did this or not…My question is why is this guy, the “madame” and Bush in the picture together? What does Bush have to do with this? The picture seems to imply that he is involved.
Posted by: KF | April 29, 2007, 12:14 am 12:14 am
I do have better things to do with my time,(rather then write this stuff) but it is amusing to see the repubs defending their ‘man’ while on their way to church.Like a pres candidate who says he is a devout catholic and then tried to more his mistress into the mayor’s home while his wife and kids were still living there. This is the kind of hypocrisy that is very typical of the repubs and can’t be ignored!@!!
Posted by: Edie | April 29, 2007, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Our first clue was manipulation of the 2000 election results. Now we not only have not responded to 9-11 correctly, but the political appointed and elected Bush associates have ruined the good will the American government had at home and abroad. My hope is the Democrates do not have similar problems.
Posted by: Marv Davisson | April 29, 2007, 1:28 am 1:28 am
This is hilarious!
I will be gleefully watching the shakeup that occurs in the next few weeks. This madam is smart and I actually admire her! She will “not go gentle into that good night” and she abhors hypocrisy.
Something tells me that 75% of her list will be GOP’ers; and a good majority of them probably have advocated against a woman’s right to choose, gay rights, birth control, medicinal marijuana, etc. Democrats and moderates will also be on this list but I have found that those who are the most outwardly defense, closed minded, and selfish have the MOST to hide….it’s hypocrisy, pure and simple.
She may be the nuclear bomb that finally routs out the entire GOP establishment. Rove’s dream of a sustained Republican majority by playing up their “values” to Christian conservatives is done. I thought that Iraq was the straw that broke the ***elephant’s*** back but this will be more like shooting it in the face! This has the potential of being the FINAL nail in the coffin for the GOP and I’m willing to bet that Washington power brokers are currently negotiating to silence her, ABC, and the federal prosecutor.
Posted by: TJ | April 29, 2007, 1:37 am 1:37 am
what time did he supposedly hire the “massage” therapists? Late night? If you are getting massages past 8 p.m. then that is highly suspect and something else is going on. Also, where was he getting said massages? I wouldn’t be embarassed hiring a licensed massage therapist and getting a massage in front of my wife/girlfriend if there was nothing to worry about.
Posted by: tbizzle | April 29, 2007, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Publish the full list of names please.
Posted by: LJ | April 29, 2007, 4:03 am 4:03 am
The repubs in power now are violating every ethical and moral boundary that there is. They have reached limits in their corruption heretofore unknown, because of the widespread application of their crimes. It’s like they’re trying to grab everything at once. Kind of like the person in the booth with money swirling around them. They’re grasping at everything that flies by. They’ve offended on every front possible. Is it even possible for an administration to commit more crimes and bad acts than this bunch?
Posted by: Seatech1 | April 29, 2007, 5:06 am 5:06 am
I agree with the madam and even if the sex were legal, who cares? All the people inside the beltway are supposedly adults and well able to take care of their own personal morals thank you very much. Why is sex a crime anyway but starting a war is not? I’d rather know they were normal human beings with normal desires and psychological needs for sexual activity.
Posted by: Robert K. McSwain | April 29, 2007, 5:17 am 5:17 am
Honestly?_I could care less what two (or more) consenting adults do in the privacy of the bed room.
This story is just another media enabled diversion to take our minds off all the really important crap that’s hitting the fan.
Don Parker
Posted by: Don Parker | April 29, 2007, 6:42 am 6:42 am
THANK YOU ABC NEWS!
This is one time America should shower you with praise.
Now, let’s work to put these criminals in the toilet and, all together, push the flush lever.
Posted by: Mark Richards | April 29, 2007, 7:53 am 7:53 am
Why would you resign if all that happened was a massage?
Posted by: Tom Foolery | April 29, 2007, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Mr. Tobis should get a “Free jail” pass. He is covered under the ‘Slick Willie’ doctrine(Bill Clinton),i.e., “I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN”. This is still America; isn’t it???
Posted by: Frank B. | April 29, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am
We are the hypocrate. Who dont need sex? We are the product of sex. Let us have sex, not war
Posted by: AK | April 29, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am
the whole world is immoral and getting worse with every passing generation. Just imagine what our world leaders will be like in 20 yrs. Its scary as hell..
Posted by: bonnie | April 29, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Will be hard to find this on FAUX News..and BillO for sure wont have it.. He only reports sex with teachers and students
Posted by: old lib | April 29, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Hey…
He just had some left-over phone tokens left from AT&T ….AND he just wanted to ” REACH OUT & TOUCH SOMEONE…!
Posted by: Joe | April 29, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Mr. Ross,
Please post the list.
Posted by: Joe Wilson | April 29, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
“… beneath my dignity to comment.”
Translation: I am busted and I don’t want to get caught lying about it too.
NOW THAT’S REAL “SHOCK AND AWE”
Posted by: ed | April 29, 2007, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
The only thing funnier than seeing yet ANOTHER republican deeply involved in a sex scandal is watching the mindless…err..”loyal” bushies defend them AGAIN.
Hehehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2007, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
For the official Bush spin on why this is not blatent hypcracy, tune into Rush Limbaugh, AKA “the drug addict” tomorrow
Posted by: hal886 | April 29, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
No different than anyone else in the Bush administration. They are all power hungry greedy oil and blood stained war mongers. It is as if the devil himself is running this country to hell. Hugo Chavez was right about George Bush.
Posted by: Thomas | April 29, 2007, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
ABC has the entire list of Palfrey’s clients. Why is ABC only picking out Republicans to “out”? This is a case of journalistic terrorism. ABC seems to be following its own, undisclosed but poorly hidden, agenda: help the enemies of President Bush. If such a list exists, either bury it or “out” everybody. What ABC is doing now is not only unfair, it is corrupt in every sense of the word.
Posted by: andy | April 29, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
As a Democrat, I agree with lamediajunkie’s comment. If there are Democrat’s on the list they ought to be outed just like their counterparts on the Right. Regardless, as long as it’s between two consenting adults, I could give a damn what any of these folks sexual habits are (Democrat or Republican). What DOES burn me up is when crusaders (typically on the Right) exalt in every opportunity to be vicious in the name of “virtue,” only to be outed as liars and hypocrites themselves (Ted Haggard, Fmr. Rep. Mark Foley, et al). Social conservatives must be called on their hypocrisy, not simply as a matter of justice, but so that Americans can fully understand the roots and impact of the politics of moral judgment.
Posted by: Minneapolitan | April 29, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
USAID needs to be elimated as an Agency once and for all. Ex-Senator Jessie Helms was right. Other than turning its head when it comes to corruption of its overseas programs, what has it accomplished? Where is the tone at the top? Where is the oversite?
Posted by: George | April 29, 2007, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
LOL! More hypocricy from the ‘Family Values’ party…yet, still the GOP want to deflect blame and point back to gay marriage/civil unions and Bill Clinton, rather than understand why Deomcrats and the gay community refuse to be lectured to by a bunch of self righteous, sanctimonious hypocrites!
Posted by: Adam J. | April 29, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
I’m a Democrat and if there are Democrats on that list, I want them exposed too. That the difference between Democrats and Republicans…we say “We want the truth.” The Republican say ‘But, but, Bill Clinton, blah, blah, blah…” Sure, why talk about the present when we can try to cover it up by attempting to dwell on something that happened 10 years ago or more and was resolved!
Posted by: Sara | April 29, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
We can complain until the cows come home but nothing is ever going to change until we elect a different party to shake the confidence of both the democrates and repubicans in office. WE want change then we have to vote for it.Its not enough to vote for democrates as some of us did back in November of 2006, we have to make changes starting in our own communitites. Vote for a different party to be your sheriff,mayor, governor and senator. You have to vote in every election no matter how small to make a difference. Stand up and be counted.
Posted by: Jean Goggin | April 29, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Dems, don’t fool yourself if you think the fallout going’s to stop here. I imagine that there will be many on both sides scrambling to cover up their indescencies. That’s what is truly so sad.
Posted by: Wendy | April 29, 2007, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Legalize prostitution ASAP. No one has ever managed to get rid of the world`s oldest profession. So why bother trying? Better to regulate it instead.
Posted by: robert | April 29, 2007, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
I’m in shock and awe – at the complete and total hypocrisy of the Bush administration. Their point man on missing children is actually a gay child abuser. Now their point man on abstinence is hiring call girls. And he claims he just got a massage…laughable. Isn’t that the same defence old Ted Haggard tried?
Impeach Bush and Cheney – how much more evidence do we need?
Posted by: Tom | April 29, 2007, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
No right to judge people on moral grounds? Aiyai, it’s the religious right that tries to enforce its morality on everyone else, and frankly, I’m sick of it. I’m fine if you want to remain abstinent, but don’t push it on everyone else, particularly when it just doesn’t work, and never has. The religious right has a very backward and repressed view of sexuality, which is why we have so many Haggards and Tobiases.
Posted by: Tom | April 29, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Pretty soon there won’t be any republicans left in Washington! They’ll either be in jail, divorce court, or in church begging for the foregiveness of their inummerable sins. These right wing extremist hypocrites need to GO. YESTERDAY.
Posted by: Eric | April 29, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
This is hilarious. Bill Clinton had sex with an intern in the oval office, and you people said this was fine. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Posted by: Sara | April 29, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
The Republican Party is the Party of PERVERTS!!!!
Posted by: George W | April 29, 2007, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
I agree with the post that said,
Liberal Democrats in partnership with the ACLU have for many decades now promoted and protected gay rights, abortion, and any other anti-moral issue put before them. Now here they come out of the woodwork trying to place judgement on Tobias calling him a hypocrit for taking part in the very immorality they helped to promote. They therefore have no right to judge anyone based on any moral or ethical grounds. To do so makes them the hypocrits…
But there are lots more organizations besides the ACLU promoting the ruination of America, like Planned Parenthood, NOW, just to name a couple.
And, to Dr. Nicole who thinks we are all animals, how absurd! You probably believe we are all descendents of monkeys, and you probably believe Masters and Johnson and The Kinsey Report. Look around and see where your religion is taking you. Read some of these posts. The saying is true which came from the mouth of God, “The expression of their faces bears witness against them. And they display their sin like Sodom; They do not even conceal it. Woe to them! For they have brought evil on themselves.” Isaiah 3:9
Legitimate sexual fantasy business? Give me a break!
Posted by: No, no, no! | April 30, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am
It seems like he really, put the “moose” on the table…
Posted by: moose | April 30, 2007, 3:55 am 3:55 am
It seems like he really, put the “moose” on the table…
Posted by: moose | April 30, 2007, 3:55 am 3:55 am
What Scott said is not true. Everyone does not do it. There are many reasons not to, but only several for doing so – selfishness, vengeance, variety, and deprivation are among them.
Should this behavior be added to the empirical data gathered on abstinence?
Posted by: gc_wall | April 30, 2007, 5:45 am 5:45 am
Now we know why they are punishing sex offenders so heard. So they can try out those Internment camps Haliburton has created.
Hypocrites, they should all be placed on the sex offender registry, IMO….
Posted by: ZMan | April 30, 2007, 6:44 am 6:44 am
so….ABC has the list and THIS is the most prominet Republican they can come up with? Why only one name released. Where are the Democrats? Where are the media names in this book?
You wouldn’t think ABC is trying to protect some people and go after others, do you?
Posted by: jack johnson | April 30, 2007, 7:18 am 7:18 am
Why did the news single out the “Bush Administration” this morning? You should be fair about this.
Posted by: PS | April 30, 2007, 7:34 am 7:34 am
How can some of you be so dismissve of this. If this guy had a (D) after his name you would be pouncing like Hyenas. some of you neocon are such a bunch of disengenuos Hypocrits. When you get back into a corner you bring up Clinton in a split second, now you want us all to pretend this doesn’t matter? How blind are all of you neocons? What more proof do you need that your guys are corrupt?
Posted by: Tony | April 30, 2007, 7:42 am 7:42 am
I do find this to be a little one sided.
Is ABC only going to name Republicans, or are they going to be fair, and name all involved reguardless of political
affilations. Time will tell
Posted by: KM | April 30, 2007, 8:48 am 8:48 am
It’s not the sex I’m disgusted by, it’s the hypocrisy and lies. Their ABSTINANCE GUY was cheating on his wife!
Posted by: Wendy | April 30, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am
I have an idea, instead of acting as unintelligent as both parties have demonstrated, why don’t we, “the people” use our voting power and get back to what this country needs and that is a unified front. All we are doing anymore is arguing amongst ourselves. Other countries see this weakness and this will affect our future. Neither party sounds very intelligent reading these posts. Face it we have corrupt individuals on both sides and it is up to the people to vote that out.
Posted by: Jason | April 30, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am
We continue to ask the wrong questions. Look at the central thread of this case, the Baldwin case, and so many others.. We apply punishments and legal remedies and legal perspectives to what are really psychological/human/relationship problems. The questions that might be asked: Why is Alex B so angry (it is related to his untreated O/C disorder;he admitted he has this problem and it is untreated. Why is Mr. Tobias seeking massages? What has gone wrong in his marriage? Is this an “acting-out” of some kind related to a deeper problem within himself? I think we need to consider and apply the mental health perspective rather than the legal perspective and punishment model if we care about humanity.
Posted by: Dr. Kathy Lawson | April 30, 2007, 9:40 am 9:40 am
If he wanted a massage, he could have hired any number of massage therapists. But an escort service? Please.
Posted by: Jdoe | April 30, 2007, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Please ABC, investigate the “central americans” tobias talked about. They may need rescuing!
Posted by: Davenport local | April 30, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am
I personally don’t see what the big deal is. Who cares what they’re doing anyway? For decades President’s, Govenor’s and on down have used this kind of service just secretly. If you think about it, they just used the Secret Service to sneak the chick in and out or wasn’t it Clinton who used the highway patrol or something like that? These “stories” are just to get people away from the major issues. I would love to see global warming take front page sometime. It’s a reality people are not facing.
Posted by: Asia Barrett | April 30, 2007, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Interesting that ABC News has chosen a Republican to “out” and then carefully selected pictures of Mr. Tobias with carefully selected photos of the first family and other administration people. When do we get to see prominent Dems waging their fingures while denouncing that they never had sex arranged by this prominent Madame? Are we to believe that only Republicans are on the list or that Brian Ross and the ABC network continue to show us how biased their reporting has become?
Posted by: Bruce Leavitt | April 30, 2007, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
So, if it’s ‘personal’ … why did he resign? or was he pushed?
He (and Wolfie) now leave US & WB foreign assistance policy and program leaderless … due to their own arrogance (oh, that again) …
Posted by: NEK VT | April 30, 2007, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
ABC ought to check back into Randy Tobias’s past. Was there not a personal scandal while he was at Lilly affecting his prior marriage to the daughter of the former Chairman of AT&T James Olsen ?
Posted by: Ted MacDougal | April 30, 2007, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Sounds like legal blackmail to me
Posted by: Lee | April 30, 2007, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
This will sweep up both R’s and D’s. Smells like a honeytrap operation on a large scale. What foreign (or domestic) intelligence outfit might have run it?
Posted by: Mike | April 30, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Look at the number of REPUBLICANS under lock and key EVEN with the Justice Department run by THEM. I agree, kick out ALL the bad ones in either party, but let’s not try to say the parties are EQUAL. In 150 days the DEM congress is moving… the Doolittle (him too!) Congress is gone— as my hero W would say, “there’s a new sheriff in town”
Posted by: old man foley | April 30, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
So many want an anti other party spin on this.
It’s obvious that the gist of the story has been missed by these readers.
This is news because this guy resigned as a result of being found out.
Had people from “the other party” resigned, th story would have been just as big.
And if you’re waiting for ABC to provide a a list of all involved, let the Madam provide it in her own defense first.
ABC and every other news source will pimp it up for a week or more. Sex sells.
Unless of course the feds decide to protect all the official toadies and redact it in the name of national security.
Posted by: Zach | April 30, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
The Bible says, “No good tree bears bad fruit nor does a bad tree bear good friut. Each tree is recognized by its fruit.” Why is it that our government officials (including past and current presidents) seem to always be diseased trees? Are they a reflection of society? Can we ever have morally, ethically, and behavorially sound leaders – ever?
Posted by: Jeff | April 30, 2007, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Christine: There you go again (remember that line?). Sorry, but the mainstream media has been cowtowing to Bushco since the get-go. Flaws and lies that were evident to us observant folks years ago are just now coming to light. For example, that Cheyney is a dark and evil soul who pushes death and destruction but who avoided military service 5 times because “he had better things to do.” And lose the Clinton stuff–ancient history, he was impeached, end of story. Finally, it’s more than likely that the names of Democrats and Independents will arise as well as the Repubs. Don’t forget—Condi Rice herself released this information and so did Tobias–he confessed. He could’ve run to Cheyney who’s good at coverups. Night nite. And yes, Dems rule!!!! And we are not immoral. We are morally superior!!!!
Posted by: Frank | April 30, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
It sure doesn’t say much about the great institution of marriage if so many married men need to pay for sexual services or excuse me need a massage.
Posted by: fran | April 30, 2007, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Dont the news people know that you can put a phone number in GOOGLE and it will give you the name and address for that particular phone number.
Posted by: Michelle Chapman | April 30, 2007, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Wonder about how the employees of Eli Lilly feel about their ex-CEOs “randy” activities. Tobias was Lilly CEO back in the 90s. So what’s the headline in Indianapolis Star? “Randy’s been a naughty boy”
Posted by: Chris Arnold | April 30, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Every body has sex, come on people, look to the left and look to the right, that person you just looked at is here because someone got it on.
Posted by: Aaron C | April 30, 2007, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
This is a sad thing for all of us, democrats and republicans, alike. Mr. Tobias did a great deal of good around the world,in the fight against AIDS. So did President Clinton do a great deal of GOOD around the world and here at home. Both suffered from what I call “the rules don’t apply to me” syndrome..but I must say, to actually pick up the phone and dial the number to have an “escort” come to one’s condo, as opposed to having a nubile worldly intern “beg” to pleasure you (on her knees) without one having to make the choice to dial or call or solicit…well…this one makes the “family values” Republican party seem even more hypocritical…
Posted by: d delhoyo | May 1, 2007, 1:45 am 1:45 am
It is extremely important to realize that Tobias was the enforcer of a US Gov’t policy that prohibited development organizations from working with young women who were in any way associated with transactional sex (sex for money, sex for school fees, sex for food, sex for cell phone or new shoes …). The policy stated that you were not allowed to ‘encourage’ young women (and occasionally young men), but that you had to vilify them by calling them prostitutes. So while Tobias is withholding condoms, information about condoms, health information and support from a young woman in difficult circumstances, and insisting that she be insulted by calling her a prostitute (insulting a young woman will discourage her from this line of work), this same person is calling the girls over to give him a massage.
The arrogance is astounding.
Hubris…
Posted by: TGM | May 1, 2007, 6:26 am 6:26 am
Brought to you by the same party that insists that same sex marriage will somehow ruin the institution of marriage.
Oh, Brother!
Posted by: Zach | May 1, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am
There are suppose to be 40,000 names on the list are they all part of the Bush Administration, or it selective reporting. The Democratic or Reporters can’t be hurt by associating with prostitution. Release all the names.
Posted by: Newmildew | May 1, 2007, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Well, in the spirit of an amused independent bystander, I guess all of this hangs on what the meaning of the word “SexIs.”
The Repub defenders of everything dealing with Bush and his administration, even when they are caught with their hands in the cookie jar, are hilarious and completely predictable. Most of them are saying it’s okay for Tobias and other Repubs to do their dirty deeds because “Dems do it, too,” or “everyone else is doing it, too.”
Or they attempt to shift the topic to another subject, e.g., the “evil” doings of Nancy Pelosi or Bill Clinton. Using those tactics to get out of trouble when you were a child didn’t work then, and they won’t work now.
Posted by: Rapsie James | May 1, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Unless there was an arrest, photo or video of the transaction how can they prove who the prostitutes and johns were? She can say someone was a client but if he chooses not to dignify it with a response what can they do? I wonder how many lawyers are on her list. You know they will all lie. Why do people always believe the worst about women but want to give men a break? LMAO I can’t wait for Friday!
Posted by: Just wondering | May 1, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
These men are criminals. They should be exposed for their dishonesty. I am tired of all the woman hating that goes on in this society. GO ABC!!!
Posted by: the bottom line | May 1, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
I am quite certain that among the thousands listed in these phone records ABC will isolate and expose only those of republicans. As usual the criminal, biased, MSM in this case ABC, will spin this to the benefit of the democrats.
It is fair if we see all the names. Cherry picking some is disingenous and rank with your usual bias.
It is also odd that although she has been in town for 13 years the phone records were dated to exclude time when Clintons in WH.
Posted by: m. mover | May 1, 2007, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
We don’t CARE that they had SEX, we don’t care whether they are Rep or Dem or Whatever, we CARE that they seem to have no problem breaking the law for their own personal reasons.
PROSTITUTION IS ILLEGAL. You are not allowed to buy, sell, or rent human beings in the U.S.
If pundits and journalists, and legislators and lobbyists cannot get that simple fact, then the real complexities of public policy must be completely baffling to them.
PROSTITUTION IS ILLEGAL. If you engage in it, there is a good chance you will go to jail, or at least be embarassed publicly in front of your friends and family and coworkers.
PROSTITUTION HURTS PEOPLE. It hurts the prostitutes, it hurts the johns, and most of all, it hurts the famlies of the johns.
Stop prostitution and stop hurting people. NOW.
Posted by: jojo | May 2, 2007, 3:01 am 3:01 am
There is a double standard operating here. This is nothing to brag and joke about. These men are crooks. I want to know who they are and not just the politicians. I would not patronize a lawyer, doctor, etc. who participated in this criminal activity. If they are this unethical in their personal lives, I would not trust them to be ethical in their services to me as a client or patient or believe anything they say.
Posted by: Go ABC!!!! | May 2, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am
We all know what happened and we all know it’s NOT going to change….
Clean it up, legalize it and tax it!!!!!!!
Posted by: TMG | May 2, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
real simple. Reps & Dems. No secrets. You’re gay. O.K. Be gay, but not in the closet. You use hookers. O.K. but admit it. If any lawmaker or policymaker has a secret then the threat of exposure could influence them to vote on a bill or decide on a policy not on it’s actual merits but on a need to avoid exposure of some secret.
You don’t want the public to know you’re a transexual? Well we don’t want this bill to pass. Can we count on a no vote from you? Then you can count on our continued silence.
How many people, reps & dems, on that phone list have been ‘influenced’ already on how many issues?
Politicians should not have secrets
Posted by: Jabawaki | May 2, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Power is the greatest aphrodesiac…especially for those who have it. Of course it can also have some side effects like arrogance, memory loss, stupidity, etc.
Posted by: Frankenlennon | May 3, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Legalize Escorts services,Here in Australia It’s legal and the women are treated fairly and with respect.
It will also stop the women from peddling themselves on the streets
It’s a lot more risky when they are
controlled by rude pimps.
Just regulate the business.
You can never stop some women from doing this kind of work.NEVER
Get a life and move on
Posted by: RudolpH | May 3, 2007, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
The point is that religious and moral values are inflicted on us by politicians with personal moral codes lower than any ever seen in the history of America. I don’t care that he went to a hooker. I care that he tells me I have to be abstenate and faithful while he’s going to get layed by a hooker right after he says it. That is the point! Get government out of the bedroom and church. Get church out of the bedroom and government. Separate church and state please.
Posted by: Paul | May 4, 2007, 7:49 am 7:49 am
I am a republican and just to make sure that I don’t get called a hypocrite I take shots from the doctor to counter my hormones and reduce my drive. It disappoints my wife (a little) but at least she knows for sure that I am faithful and not enlisting an escort service. Above all; I am not a hypocrite! I just couldn’t stand it if liberals called me a hypocrite just because I couldn’t control my sex drive.
Posted by: Bob | May 4, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
There`s been alot of type about Bill Clinton. Let`s get something straight, He lied about something under oath that was no ones business to begin with. What W. has done is truly criminal.
Posted by: art bone | May 5, 2007, 1:35 am 1:35 am
Tobias used Central Americans for his “massages.” He knows that most immigrant women involved in prostitution are trafficked sex slaves. Everyone at USAID knows this! He can NOT claim that he didn’t know. He was aiding and abetting the trafficking of women as sex slaves when he procured their services. The man is a beast and should be prosecuted and put in prison.
Posted by: justine | May 5, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am
NOW all the women that said that Harlan Ullman was harassing and demeaning them at work and was the ultimate sleaze male are proved correct.
What a pig. Even the escorts wouldn’t take money to do it with him. Now THAT says something. If anyone has it coming, it is HARLAN ULLMAN!!!
There IS justice after all….
Posted by: Nora | May 5, 2007, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
I am glad to see even this trivial proof of politicians’ dishonesty taken to a superior account by the partisan minions on this site. It enforces the view that no matter how badly some of our “betters” will let some of us down, there is always the excuse that the other side did it as well, only it was more obscene.
And, of course, it was not reported in the mainstream media.
Posted by: verbatim | May 6, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Sure makes you wonder what Randy may have been doing on his numerous trips; someone should take a look ! Prosecution needs to take place !
Posted by: bud d | May 6, 2007, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
You righties amaze me. Your arguments come down to three lame talking points:
1) “Hey, no one is perfect/ cast the first stone.” No one is perfect means “I lost my keys,” or “I broke the china,” or “I forgot your name.” This is far from mere “imperfection.” It is outright hypocrisy, criminal, and possibly damaging to American security interests.
2) “ABC news is so bias/there are probably Democrats on that list.” Must be nice to hand your brain to Fox and avoid all of that messy thinking. You KNOW that if this were a Democrat, it would be an issue as well. The difference? Tobias’s hypocrisy.
and finally, 3) “Why is this news? There is a war going on!” Ah yes, the Hannity defense. When all else fails, pull out the sparkly ball and repeat “Look-at-the-war. You don’t want accountability during war time. The government is your friend. Support the troops.” Please, that lame parlor trick never worked for some of us, and now it does not work for 78% of the American public. Now why are we fighting? I keep getting your talking points all mixed up. What is the reason this week?
Posted by: leftcoast | May 8, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Re jpowalksi post: What do you mean “he was re-elected anyway ? Clinton was not re-elected after the Monica scandal because the scandal broke in his 2nd term ! This is exactly what is at the core of the problems in the country. People just don’t know what the hell is going on. Nor do they understand it all. They hear part of a story or news item, take it and run as fast as they can with it, spreading it everywhere, true or not. Then comes election day. And the idiot on the hill is there again for another 4 years. Now we are seeing and living the result of this ! I’d fall down laughing if it were not so very tragic. “What has happened to our country” you ask ? A giant part of the country is not paying enough real attention to our country, that’s what is happening. Count yourself among them. Then you continue saying . . “But I feel we need to mention the money our political representatives spend taking these trips”, what trips are you talking about ? The story said nothing about Tobias taking any trips anywhere. On second thought, I am going to cry !
Posted by: Juanita McKenzie | June 15, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Amen, Juanita! Best post I’ve read so far!
Posted by: Vertigo | July 11, 2007, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Remember Randy?
Seems he is now in a different business….
Regards,
Viktor
Posted by: Bernard Lang | July 24, 2007, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Eventually, we will forget about this and move on to the next story.
Posted by: annie | December 5, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Clean it up, legalize it and tax it!!!!!!!
Posted by: kiev | May 12, 2008, 5:47 am 5:47 am
Escorts are fashionable in the world of politics…prostitution is really a problem these days..imagine that in Thailand they use escorts to promote tourism..
Posted by: ThaiEscorts | April 30, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Oh, the moral Republicans are just making my day …. Every day another hypocrite bites the dust.
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