D.C. Lawyer Demands ABC News Keep His Client Secret

Well, well, well, this should come as no surprise. Once again the adage about throwing stones and living in glass houses. I am sure we will never really see “the list”

I think the list should be released so all can know who is involved. Especially if there are high government officials involved. (Which I’d guess there probably are).
Even though I do not agree that prostitution should be illegal, I think since it is, the public has the right to know. Especially since it is a federal lawsuit, and I pay my federal taxes.
ABC should just post the list and be reporters again. Not government whips like all media seems to be becoming lately.

If a news organization can release the horrible tapes and manifesto of the young man who killed so many at Virginia Tech, then this is a no brainer…

Expose them all. If they didn’t do anything illegal why was Ms. Palfrey arrested? I knew some of them would hire lawyers to find loopholes. Their lawyers probably have been clients too. lol They are all dishonest liars, have committed crimes and should not be in positions of power over the lives of others. Their families deserve to know what kind of men they really are, even though it will be painful. Imagine the diseases they could bring home to their families. They probably are the type who brag about their illegal acts, harass women and call them derogatory names, meanwhile they are busy dialing up escort services. I can’t wait to pop open a cold one and watch 20/20 Friday night. LMAO!!!!!

How sad is all of this, we have our young boys over in Iraq fighting a losing battle and losing so many innocent lives and these crooked politicians are having the time of their lives, so they thought. Let no stone be unturned, expose them all ABC.
Do your job and work for the people of our nation.

Kip,
The right that “we” have is to know who did is if public money was used.
if it was not the I agree with you “we” do not have any right to know who is on the lists.

well, americans are finally wakeing up to what the rest of the world knew all along, that these guys in power in washington, are nothing but crooks, for those who did not know the government is the biggest organize crime unit in the world, it’s ok to gamble when they sanctioned it but not when you set up a site in another country, now they get caught with their pants down and they cry foul, like someone said earlier name names, post the list get back to reporting the news and not filtering it to apeased the Bushies and the likes.

It doesn’t matter whether this is viewed as legal or illegal activity – No one should be above the law.
Enough of the Heidi’s and Jeane’s dragged through the media, courts and doing jail time – if the John’s weren’t buying there would be no sale.
If the Madame and her ladies go down, then it is only fair the John’s go down too, every single, step of the way.

I personally am thrilled that you are sharing the names; the past three election cycle sand running up to the current administration all we heard-we will clean up the Oval office;The current administration used discriminatory issues to win elections; Foley-Haggerty and all the rest. Those who live in Glass Houses should never throw stones – Karma

I’ve seen the names and photos of local people published in the paper when they were caught in prostitution stings, the scum in D.C. don’t deserve better treatment.

I suspect that when all this comes out there will be embarrassment on both sides of the aisle. Sex certainly knows no idealogy. However, I see no reason to protect the clients that engaged in this business. If you are ashamed of your behavior, then you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. Besides, in this day of sexually transmitted deseases, wives have a right to know if their husbands are putting their health at risk as well as being unfaithful.

I’m having a hard time waiting for your 20/20 show. I look forward to seeing the names of some of the pious government employees that have tried to lord it over us. I only hope ABC doesn’t hold back too much or too long so the courts don’t gag you before you get it all out. Keep up the good work, you owe us after that mockudrama you showed about the Iraqi War and the fake Clinton stuff you used. This goes a long way in redeeming yourselves in my eyes.

Wow, reading the opinions of the common folk is very revealing on what is happening in our country, we complain and complain but when it comes down to it, we really don’t do anything about it. I mean where were the american public nearly 4 years ago when they reelected this President and in doing so giving his cronies 4 more years of disgusting behavior, with no incentive to to clean up their act. Are we so blind? Can we not see that the politicians that we elect into office mirror ourselves and how hypocritical we are. No matter who will be exposed in this latest news fiasco, it will not change anyone’s position in the long run, because the american people allows this to happen time and time again, so don’t blame the Bible or put down morality, we as a people deserve what we get in Washington no matter what the political party may be, because we are those people we put in office.

Hold on Olga. What is this “We” elected this administration?
I didn’t vote for these yahoos and I was also busy warning people not to vote for these yahoos. But nobody listens to bleeding heart liberals these days. The fact is that half of this country is like this. Pretending to be something they are not while the only thing they care about is their mortgages and SUV and the lifestyle they live. This administration fed into the greed that half of all Americans seem to demonstrate in their carelessness of the consequences of mindless consumerism and immediate gratification. Which is essentially the forces at work here.
I did not elect these people. I will take responsibility for my country as an American Citizen but not for Gitmo, the Iraq War, the limiting of rights, the debt, the dead Iraqis, nor the lies of the WMDs, nor anything else this obviously depraved administration dishes out.

interesting, the ad at the top of my page is for bras and undies. are we a little obsessed with sex? ya think? the conservative religious right think that if they control your sex life, they control you. perhaps they are correct? maybe that’s why they have to pay for it or steal it away from children! sad day in america! perhaps they are the ones who need to be controlled. i guess that’s why we vote!

How can ABC, having obtained the list, release it only selectively?
It’s either news or it isn’t. (I think it is).
I don’t see how a news organization can put itself in the position of trying to decide which people on the list get “outed” and which don’t.
On what journalistic merit would such selective release be made? I mean, they’re either on the list, or they’re not, right? ABC has already named one, and he’s resigned.
To be perfectly honest about it, I think this entire scandal is repulsive. I mean, thousands are dying in Iraq – and we’re sitting here gnashing our teeth over who got laid.
I understand the outrageous hypocrisy of it all – but really, we shouldn’t give a damn who’s on the list.
But it’s out. So – now, why play favorites?

Can you release the names from White House? It will be a bigger shock if another big fish in the net.

Well it seems that its all over Washington and if they can find out who is on the list then maybe the people will see that our find WDC group is all about “COVERUP” That is why the judge ordered her not to give the names, but hahaha she beat him to the punch. A very smart lady! Im sure she knew that would happen and that is why she got the list out before she was told not to. Like all in our Congress and others they will do anything to protect themselves from a crime and all they are is a bunch of catch me if you can people. Im sure the judge was told by higher ups to issue the order.

Oh please please please reveal the list.
I’m sure everyone will deny any wrongdoing (money for sex) and that’s just the point.
What goes on between adults, even when it involves money, is no one’s business but their own.
The “johns” will deny everything… so they’ll be OK.
Ms. Palfrey will make her point… sexual fantasy is not illegal and there is no evidence of paid sex…
And, best of all, even though they deny it, a bunch of powerful Republicans will be revealed as the hypocrites that most of us already knew they were, since paid sex or none, I’m pretty sure their churches and faith communities don’t support the use of escort services for massages and fantasies, any more than they support their use for prostitution.
All is for the best in this most perfect of perfect worlds.

Why do so many of you people think that the media only reports the positives about Bush? Can someone name a few? Iraq is always on the news – it definitely is NOT good news for him. Gonzales is also on the news – NOT good news either. Karl Rove, global warming, high gas prices,immigration…. are all bad news for the administration. Economy is doing good, but it always ends up in the back pages.

Bush will go down as the worst President of all time. He should be credited for single-handedly destroying the Republican party. I’m not a Republican but at least had some respect for it when they stood for fiscal responsibilty. Republicans are now the big deficit, big war, anti-environment, send us all to la la land party.

Prostitution should be legal. This is all much ado about doing it. There are good reasons not to consort with whores but nothing other than that should govern this. It is only a subsidy to organized crime.

Her records go back to 93, yet she only releases the last 4 years worth? Who’s protecting who here?
My guess is they’d find a lot of calls from the White House from 1992 thru 2000, and the lawyers don’t want it to get to that point.

I hope they don’t release the list. The First Lady would be crushed.

Regardless whether or not those who utilized her service used public moneys, the sheer fact that this woman is on trial shows she’s running something illegal. Since that is the case, and our leaders are supposed to uphold the law, it’s only fair that we are told when they are not. Clinton didn’t use taxpayer money to get his groove on…we are subjected to more and more laws that this administration piles on us. If we have to be watched all the time, it’s only right they are too.
Release the list.

Well, let’s get it all out in the open!

LOL Al…I bet you and some hardcore clinton supporter were on exact opposite sides of the fence a few years back and you just dug out his old message and reposted it. Blah blah going and all we’re concerned about is who got laid. So, so familiar. When are you people going to wake up, open your eyes, and realize YOU are the hypocrites for defending this stuff (in this case and in Clinton’s) simply because the accused happens to be in your party of preference. Wake up America. DEMAND BETTER POLITICIANS. Don’t elect a Giuliani or a McCain. Don’t elect an Obama or another Clinton. Open your eyes. If you are all about free market, small government, personal responsibility, and the federal government doing what it was SUPPOSED to be doing and providing for the common defense, there’s a candidate in the running right now that fits that bill. And guess what Republicans (now now dems, don’t make it a reason for not voting for him), he’s in your party. Vote Ron Paul, Texas-R for president. This is the closest you will ever see to a politician that is the exception that proves the rule. A stand up guy with a solid voting record for freedom and personal choice and privacy.

You shouldn’t be worried IF you don’t have anything to hide!

But then again, I’m stupid for even mentioning that because journalists don’t have the ability to make war on other countries or create massive spy networks aimed, for some strange reason, at their own population.

I would strongly suggest that ABC release those names TODAY before they get receive an injunction that stops them from doing it at all.
You must know that hundreds of lawyers in town are drafting up motions right now to stop the release of this list.
If you wait till Friday, this list will never see the light of day.

Does it matter anynore, there is so much corrpution in our goverment we could be another Iraq country.

all phone records should be taken away from ABC. After all they will be violating privacy rights.

Be assured, ABC will finesse their slant on this story to cover for liberals also on “the list.” Anyone recall 4 years ago when Democratic Party honcho Bob Beckel was caught and humiliated on another escort’s “list”? It seems that story was quieted over by the network sympathizers. Journalism is over. It’s merely a tool to feed a political fetish.

If small-time “johns” can be named in our local papers, so can these rich ones.

Oh yeah and Robert, I wouldn’t find pictures of aliens landing on the White House lawn half as surprising as picutures of some of these so-called “gods” I keep hearing people talk about.

Geez people… Why is everyone so excited to expose hypocrites? Don’t we all fail to practice what we preach? Don’t we all tell our kids not to do things we do (or did). We all fail. We all do the wrong thing. So…if I tell you what is right and do wrong I’m a hypocrite and you would love to expose that fact? Why? To justify your failures? That’s your problem…not mine.

If you do the time with these chicks, pay the piper baby!!!!

Geez buhk, you sound like a Republican. “Just because I do something illegal or immoral doesn’t mean I should have to answer for it!”

Don’t ya love the way just about everyone ASSUMES the list is a DC “who’s who” for the Republican Party; as if Democrats never get involved in illegal activities (Barney Frank, Jefferson, Feinstien, etc).
I can’t wait to see how your tune changes to “wheres the respect for Privacy” if names like Clinton, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Stephanopolis, Rather, Gore, and Murtha end up on the list.

I’ve also noticed how the obvious Republicrites on this post are now whining when their boys are getting called on the carpet for blatant failures on the whole “morals and values” issue. “Don’t pick on us!” But I say, Mission Accomplished! Freedom’s on the March!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

This scandal gives us another peek at how the Administration has been staffed with people who can’t live their lives the way they have preached we should live our lives.
We already know that the Clinton Administration had their scandals. But they did not come into office to tell us how to behave.
The Johns and the whores are both equally guilty. Publish the list. The government isn’t going after the Johns.
I for one would favor legalized Prostitution. But since we make it illegal, lets make both parties public and make them both pay with public shaming.
Let the chips fall where they may.

I bet ABC will post only certain names.
Can anyone say AGENDA

We need to know each and everyone of these weasels. How many politicians, police officers, and corporative slime balls are involved and setting up a double standard for their families and the rest of society. You know what I am more concerned is the safety of the lady to be honest. I doubt that she is not safe behaving like a rat. I doubt that these patriarchs allow a lady to destroy what these patriarchs all their lives worked hard for. I am sure they deserved a little break, right? :-))) (their wives sure deserve a break too).

I would just like to reiterate something already mentioned….last time I checked, there were both Democrats and Republicans in Washington. Sex scandals seem to be about one of the only bipartisan endeavors in Washington…So I think some people are going out on a limb to say that it will be a Republican scandal, or that this will somehow be further fodder against the war….WHAT IN THE HECK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE WAR????? I swear the Left is getting more shrill, more petty and more incoherent every day.

Kelly said: “Don’t ya love the way just about everyone ASSUMES the list is a DC “who’s who” for the Republican Party; as if Democrats never get involved in illegal activities ”
Kelly, the difference is that Democrats don’t go around labeling people with “Scarlett Letters” and shaming them into non-existence when they happen to do something that is sexual (as if that’s a bad thing). However, the Republicans ABSOLUTELY do this. Their fundamental (and quite frankly wrong) extreme right views of their own perceived (and flawed) version of morality is what is destroying them.
They (the Republicans) CREATE AND PERSIST THEIR OWN SHAME, and force their version of morality on everyone else. This turn of events is quite fitting, and to be expected. IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN in the near future, too, until the right-wing wackos let go of their egos and see the larger picture.

Let me get this straight. Republicans are immoral and Democrats are…amoral.

I find it interesting that so many of you are assuming that the majority of people on the list are conservatives. But then, with ABC releasing the names, I expect the majority to be names that can hurt the current administration, and certainly not any of their beloved liberals whose asses they are always covering. Can anyone say “the senior Senator from California will now take the stand in her corruption trial” Haven’t heard much about that on the 3 nets.

These clients of her preach one thing during the day and then sneak around at night. Expose everyone of them. I am looing forward to her side of the story they are selling it on eBay to the highest bidder

Why should hiring an escort be against the law IN THE FIRST PLACE? Why should anyone else care — better yet — what business is it of anyone else if Person A willingly hires a willing Person B for sexual services? If the Republicans didn’t make such a big deal about (and strict laws against) stuff like this, they wouldn’t be on the verge of public humiliation like they are now. I personally can’t wait for the 20/20 report.

There should be automatic double punishment for law enforcement who break the law.
There should be automatic triple punishment for the people who write the laws but refuse to follow them.

I am reminded of Freud’s concept called “reaction formation”. To summarize, those who pontificate in the loudest and most prominent fashion usually have the most to hide.

I agree with releasing these names and we will definitely clean house. Our government is a big joke anyway and the crooks need to be ousted ASAP! Go for it ABC. You’re the best!!

I agree with releasing these names and we will definitely clean house. Our government is a big joke anyway and the crooks need to be ousted ASAP! Go for it ABC. You’re the best!!

hmmm hookers and “hoes”. nothing new really, i think maybe its been called the worlds oldest profession, likely for good reason. in the bible theres lots of that going on , and prostitution on the whole was pretty much condoned/ignored by the church at that time.
according to the bible,jesus had close friends who were prostitutes ,so what they are doing today apparently isnt that big of a sin. and anyway,as the good book says, ” he who is without sin ,let him cast the first stone.” that being said, the paid civil servant(who usually has to swear some sort of binding duty oath,usually suffixed by “…so help me god” etc) who may be using taxpayer funding for their “massages” is entirely subject to the taxpayers’scrutiny and should be held accountable if guilty.

Hence her lawsuit against those ladies she employeed for violating their employment agreement and engaging in illegal activity. Read the entire story – you are going to have a hard time in a case if you select your point to fight – I would have loved to oppose you.
If her employees did SOMETIMES provide sexual favors, why do you feel the world is entitled to the names of ALL of the clients given you have no clue who engaged in illigal activity.
The world has moved beyond witch hunts, public hangings, etc.
PS – I agree with outing the names of those who have been verified in illegal activity.
SoHo, 90K,
…Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars:
…Keep on keeping on:
…Salaries are prorated, 90k in SoHo is 20k in Oklahoma:
…Sorry, retired, no salary, 78 & 3 (that means I lost 3 cases)

Agreed

Shouldn’t ABC just release names of republicans? That seems to be what they’ve done so far. Surely ABC wouldn’t bite the hand that feeds them and out democrats???

SoHo 90. Good luck with the law career. As Pozner has stated: “Uncover the Inconsistency”

I am so disgusted by the way this case has been handled. If you are going to make an example of her, but not the johns, you’ve done nothing to stop this from happening again. Why trash her, when she was performing a service that the men obviously lined up to get. If the men get to say “It was just for massage” and get a pass, then she should to. Otherwise, the case should be handled “To Catch a Predator” style, where public shame and humiliation is the biggest deterrent. Release the names! Then you might get some true reform. I hope ABC has the guts to do it.

I’ll be surprised if any dems, let alone high-profile types will be outted by ABC News. Not because they don’t do this sort of thing themselves. Just the underlying tone of this story gives me the impression that it’s politically motivated against republicans.
Having your lawyer try to stop the report does seem more like a democrat thing to do though. Donno if the Rs would try that sort of thing. Just sounds like something a Clinton person would do.

Well, he is a lawyer. I’m surprised he isn’t suing for $65M because ABC’s impending release of his client’s name made him soil his pants.
Too rich……just too rich….lawyers, sheesh.

What I would like to know is why is the Federal Government proscuting this case?
Prostution is not a federal crime it is a State crime

Unless I’m reading all the documented ‘facts’ of this story wrong, most people posting here are making ill-informed comments.
ABC was not provided a list of names, but a list of phone numbers going back four years. From what I’ve read, there wasn’t a magic ‘black book’ of names like other famous ‘madam’ scandals. ABC has been trying to attach names to these 10-15K numbers. My guess is they are discovering some of the names by either calling the numbers and/or doing reverse look-ups on-line.
Many of these numbers could be dead-ends by now, not found in reverse look-ups, or recycled to someone else, and yes that could mean recycled to a prominent person who actually never did call the escort agency.
Now, for all those complainig about only ‘four years of records, and not all of them’. I would imagine given her own instructions to ‘employees’ to immediately delete all phone records, that she also did the same. If she deleted all her phone bills, she may have requested past bills from her phone company and four years of records may have been all that was available.

Let the chips fall where they may!
I also want to see 20-20 do an investigation into the 1.5 billion dollars in taxpayers money Senator Feinstein of California channeled to companies her husband was involved with.
What’s the status of Congressman Jefferson of Louisiana who was caught with $90,000 cash hidden in his freezer?
Why is he still in Congress and not in jail?
Where is the Media on this explosive issue?

Unfortunately, it will be a select list of “johns” who are released. I am for all or nothing. 4 years worth of calls is HUGE, however how many names will actually be released. Consider they need to take commercial breaks and only have so much air time. They will have to be choosy.
I personally enjoy a body message (no happy endings however) I pay around $50.00 an hour for one. My local Chiropractor’s office has several message therapists. Never thought about an escort service. Perhaps next time my back hurts and I am out of town?
If its legal its legal. Lets not pre-judge customers simply because they are either rich or powerful. If they engaged in activities that are deemed illegal, crush their nuts, if not lets not attempt to destroy them. The argument that of course they are dirty just doesn’t cut it. If I could afford to have a hot chick give me a message when I was out on the town and its not against the law, I’m all for it.
I think the “Madam” is using a very clever ploy to defend herself from criminal prosecution under the Rico statutes. Remember she is being accused of organized crime and racketeering, not simple prostitution.
I for one won’t be watching the show. I believe it will be just another purpose driven witch hunt where if a glimmer of truth shines thru it is more by accident than design.

That would be awesome if Nancy Pelosi was on the list. Ha!

Massage = $300
Fantasy sex act = $500
Hypocritical po$ers sweating large = Priceless.

I would be willing to bet that the majority of the names on this list are libs and Dems.

I promise I never had sexual relations with that girl”. I need more tome to prepare for the commitee, as he called lawmakers,friends etc. our to law enforcement can’t recall” ummm? All I know is that this is a very big problem on the hill and off. There are many families that will be hurt because of this. Having said that they all deserve it no matter what the outcome is. If they have cheated on the spouce, girl friend etc. Then the hurt party has a right to know. If the have children then they also have a right to know before they hear it from a classmate. This is a shocking story and ABC YOU NEED TO RUN IT NOW… IF YOU DON’T MAYBE A WDC JUDGE WILL STOP YOU IN KEEPING WITH THE COVERUP’S. So Give it to them ABC and its about time someone get’s something out that is good news. I am sure she did not give it to FOX because they are so anti everyone. As Bill O’Reilly said today Fox is #1. Well maybe but you ABC are #1 if you get this story out. The lady deserves to have her side told and tell all, that shes knows. So Damm the torpedos ABC FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!! GO GET’EM.

the woman is extorting and blackmailing and ABC is her tool. Not watching ANY ABC newscast from now on. NONE

Name the criminals! Their wifes and girlfriends have a right and need to know who they are so they can get away from them ASAP! Just because the politicians does not mean they should not face the music.Those police sweeps on tv name the johns and these people are johns….So name them!

Entertainment at its best.
People are getting killed everyday and we are talking about this?

You folks still don’t get it do you. No one controls the media. The media controls you. They have become the “big brother” you all fear. They give you half the truth and half the facts, all the time. They add to thier reporting, plenty of inuendo and lots of facial expression with an occasional rolling of the eyes. This is done to gain ratings and increase profit. Keeping groups of Americans pitted against each other makes for exciting news. And you all love to flock to the latest news stories to find out who is “out to get you”. Anyone who “calls” the media out on this, is smeared and slandered. Me, I came from a “news” background. I just sit back and laugh. The pen is mightier than the sword!

About 10 years ago we were told that someone’s personal life has no bearing on his or her public life. My how things have changed. Having said that, I say release the names. What elected officials do speaks volumes about their stand on certain issues. I believed the same 10 years ago, btw.

I hope they release the list and find not only the names but find out how many of these people expensed their “massage” as a business expense!

Thank God for this important coverage! What happens in D.C., Stays On TV!

It’s not just a matter of releasing names of clients. There are certainly children and spouses who would have to suffer the humiliation. Why don’t the rest come forward or resign like Tobias?

Heck, CNN gave us the tapes of snipers shooting our American troops, no outrage. NBC gave us the shooters manifesto, hardly a blip. Let us see a list of the ahem….”customers”….and let the chips fall where they may.
Lord knows both parties could use a good cleaning out like an enema. Let’s just call this a….ahem… “cleansing”.

And here’s more to discourage the outraged liberal moralists –
“Part of the reason why the “20/20” segment may end up being so tame is that there were serious discussions within ABC News over the legal and ethical questions involved in identifying men on Palfrey’s client list. Questions such as: What makes a public figure a public figure (and worthy of mention on the broadcast)? Does merely having your phone number appear in Palfrey’s phone records prove that you used her service? What if you called Palfrey’s service only for a massage (as Tobias claims) or female companionship? How can the network prove that sex actually took place? And is ABC being used by Palfrey to do her dirty work?”

I guess there are some grown-ups at ABC after all.

Hey!
ABC already released a couple of Republican names. It would be the height of hypocrisy to not release ALL the names. Wives, husbands – whoever. After all, Palfry is no more guilty than any “client” or “employee”. Bring it on – any censorship of this list (already opened by ABC) would be contemptable. To be honest though, I don’t think this is worth prosecuting – but then again, how much did we (taxpayers) pay to prosecute Libby? For what? Possibly lying to a fed? Print the list – THE WHOLE LIST!!!

Prediction: Even though there are most likely PLENTY of democracts on the list…you will not see one name from that ilk released…..I wonder how much Billy boy spent with her services? Release ALL the names! Conservative and libs alike

WOW!, it is amazing to see that everyone is automatically blaming the Bush administration on this. What would happen if Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, John F’n Kerry are on the list what then. Just let em’ get a pass?
I bet that ABC will hide any names that are Democrats and release all the Republican names, since the Democrats have ABC in their pockets. Let the truth be told. Give it to FOX news.

I think everything should be legalized. Why not legalize, drugs (alcolhol/tobacco are already), prostitution, or whatever. If its a consenting adult, who cares. Let them make their own choices. That is what liberty is about.
But… don’t force what you think is right down my throat or on to my children. If I don’t think its right, I don’t think its right. Its none of your business if I think that way because I follow a faith system. Maybe I don’t think its right because it destroys one’s body, spreads disease, or puts other people at risk to be hurt. Maybe I think that anything unnatural is just wrong.
Anyway… I don’t care about the list. Washington is nothing but a bi-partisan pit of corruption, greed, and selfishness. Nothing will ever change, and nothing will ever get better.
All I can hope for is a huge asteroid to come hurtling in to wipe out the human race. Maybe then people will wake the frack up and realize what a savage, child race we really are. Oh wait! Then it will be too late because of the big rock falling from the sky. Oh well.

What if I used your cell phone/office phone/home phone to make a call and the call I made went to an escort business?
You are the one on the list given to ABC. Do you have rights? Have your rights been violated?
What if your phone number is on the list because a WRONG number was dialed?
Think people!

Why all the hatred? It has nothing to do with party. Power is the greatest aphrodesiac,,,especially for those who have it. Side effects include arrogance, memory loss and stupidity.

I guess ABC will release the list after the names of ABC’s favored sons are removed. Wouldn’t want to hurt any of the liberal guys now would we. If it is released it should be released in its entire form to multiple news outlets not just one.

ABC needed to up their ratings anyways and the hype of this list might do the trick. I personally boycott ABC (and most network tv for that matter) as purveyors of ‘toilet tv’. They cater to the lowest common denominator of watcher, rather than trying to raise their viewership to a higher level of sensibility.
No sense telling them to be ashamed of themselves…they have no shame.

Anarkhos,
The article does not specify whether the anonymous client was a former employee of the D.C. Madam, only that the client would be a witness in the D.C. Madam’s case against her former employees. This leads me to believe that the client is instead a John. If it were a former employee, as you suggest, the anonymous client would be listed as a defendant rather than a government witness. Regardless, I think we should do some research, out those in politically appointed and elected positions, and spare the rest. Lord knows we have enough moral trumpeting these days–nobody should be the moral arbiter of all.

If I’m accurate, the list that was on the Smoking Gun or whatever was from 1996. So the 4 years that is being covered tomorrow night is actually from 1993 – 1997, and will actually cover the first half of the Clinton Administration, no? These records are very old. Who is to say a lot of these numbers are even still connected? This was pre-cell phone # portability.

Why not legalize prostitution- controlled by the government- 50% tax and 50% to the owner of the establishment and while we are at it- legalize pot too. We would make enough money to not only pay off the national debt, but end income tax as we know it today. Just like during prohabition- people still got alcohol- and made people like the Kennedy’s rich- legalizing pot and prostitution would clean up the streets too. No more bad drug deals, prostitutes would be given a certificate of health and checked for aids etc. Bill Clinton could be the first secretary of sin commerce.

I’m with you Fred!

You know,
I am really waiting for a true liberal guy to stand up and say,
“Yo, I am single, I don’t ever want to marry and don’t want children. These are my choices as an adult male living in the good ol’US where freedom rings. I don’t believe prostitution should be illegal. I understand that I contacted an escort service. I understand that with an escort service, sex is left up to the discrimination of the lovely lady of the night and the risks of a sexual encounter are between me and the lady. I have no one to lie to and I feel no shame. I am on the list and will gladly testify that Jeane Parfley had no knowledge I was going to try to seduce one of her escorts. Give me my fine for my misdemeanor, suspend my sentence and give me my community service.” and take a stand.
But that’s not going to happen that’s fantasy, can I make a living supplying that fantasy?
NO.
Another fantasy. A Religious Republican stands up and says,
“I committed hypocrisy. I have a loving wife. I had a fantasy I felt she would never grant me. So I weakened and went to an escort agency. I am ashamed of my self, I put her at risk for a STD. I have a lot to work out with my wife and children. I also have a lot of apologizing to do to the tax payers of the United States. I am not worthy of this office. I will gladly testify that Jeane Parfley had no knowledge I was going to try to seduce one of her escorts. My hypocrisy should not be criminalise this woman. May Jesus and God forgive me.”
Bleeding heart liberal self will acknowledge that at least Tobias came close.

And folks quit jumping on the media. They just doing their job. Do you know how many of these services exist here? Take this one, multiply it by 100 then multiply the johns by 75 figuring there are those that use several. Then look at the population of DC.
This is the one that came to light. And ABC is just doing it’s job.
Do the math.

Linda,
I think this would be better.
All of the Democrats and Republicans on the escort service list stand up together and say this:
“Hi, we are a bunch of sex loving, greedy, selfish pigs. We don’t care that we are on the Madam’s list. We really don’t care about America, the people, our families, or anything else but us.
We like being in Washington because we get to have power, be treated to everything expensive, get lots of money for being the way are, and then don’t give a hoot about the poor, down trodden, and powerless.
Up your’s America. We’ll continue doing what we want, when we want. It doesn’t matter what party you vote for, because we are all the same. Oh yeah, the party system is rigged in our favor anyway.”
:-D
Yup, I’m independent, and I hate our political system. Its my right to do so.

Why is it, when local police do a “prostituion” sting, they publish the names, address and work places of the “Johns” as a deterrent. I guess if the “Johns” on the DC list include, possibly, judges, congressmen, senators, and other high level politicians, the list must be kept secret…..hmmm.

Mr./Ms. GF,
You’re about to convert me to being an independent. You are soooooo right.
Thanks!
To the good Dr.
I stand corrected. This is not directly Bush’s fault. My apologies.
However, that is what this forum is for to air our opinions. ;P ????

While in the Marines stationed in Okinawa and South Korea at the tender age of 19 years old, I spent many a night in the loving embrace of an Asian beauty… and paid her well for it too! So did 90% of all US Forces over seas serving our country, protecting our liberty, from threats foreign and domestic! LOL!! In Korea it was legal for sure and sanctioned all the way up the Chain of Command! If it wasn’t legal in Okinawa, I couldn’t tell.
Publish the list!

The reason the list is NOT being disclosed is because there are to many Democrats on it. ABC is in the back pocket of the DNC and they do NOT want to harm any Democrat chances.

If no names are released, everyone is a suspect—politicians, regulators, media, executives of for-profits and non profits, priests and rabbis.
Everyone is a suspected John until the list is released.
Someone needs to file a class action suit.

Support naming them all! No sex was ionvolved, so where is the problem in naming those who ordered a massage, just like ordering a pizza?

Just tell Bill Clinton that being a potential ‘ambassador to the world’won’t get him off the hook, or off that list!!!

Journalists should be reporting news, not judging who is, or not, newsworthy. Release the hounds! Oh, “just like ordering a pizza”. I’ll have mine with anchovies.

Lets destroy a few hundred lives so that the leering public can feel morally superior. A pimp is resorting to blackmail and the ‘morally correct’ are eager to assist. ABC will selectively edit out any of its Democratic allies and we can all have a good time (ala Mark Foley) pontificating about Republican hypocrisy.

Mike, and others who compare this with guys getting busted for prostitution — those guys get busted because they are caught soliciting. In other words, the cops have proof that they actually engaged in *illegal* behavior. In this case, they don’t. And even if they could prove that illegal behavior took place, I would imagine that for most of them, the statute of limitations for soliciting (a minor offense legally) has well passed for most of these guys anyway.
Finally, most of the posters on this board don’t understand the charges against Palfrey — she is charged under the RICO statutes for running a criminal enterprise. She is not being charged for what her clients may or may have done. And before you feel too sorry for her, she was offered a plea deal that would have required her to serve only 4 months. Rejecting that offer was really stupid, considering the evidence prosecutors have against her. And that evidence will more than outweigh any forced testimony by her clients.
And wouldn’t it be ironic if some fo these guys she outs, and whose lives are ruined, feel like they have nothing to lose and testify that, yes, they did have illegal sex with her employees? Overall, she and her attorney have been too cute by half in this.

Posted by: Tony | May 2, 2007 1:34:47 PM
“If she is going down for this let the the Johns go down as well.”
Tony,
Don’t say…. “going down” lol

A commodity is a commodity. Make it legal and tax it like everything else. There’s no shame in smoking, drinking or gambling. Why should there be shame in having sex for money. It works both ways for men and women alike.

To the very first posting from tony… are you honestly saying that this “list” only contains the names of conservatives? that quite possibly is the most niave and partisan assumption ive heard in quite awhile. people from all political persuasions will be on that list.
Frankly, hats off to this chick, if theyre (the gubment) going to play out this hipocritical drama, then make sure all the players come to light, the government has a way of finding lesser-ups to blame for their sins and use as “fall guys”, this is one time that BS isnt going to play out… so let the good times roll.

I think they should air it and reveal everyone on this list. Maybe there will be many members of Congress on it that will have to resign in disgrace and be replaced with people who aren’t career politicians beholden to any party bosses and still in touch with the desires of their constituents. Maybe we’ll get some people there who actually have some principles on which to stand, and not just be there with their hand out to lobbyists and the like to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense!

List them by occupation. Lawyers first, t hen Politicians.

Hey, we already named the Republican. What do you want from us? Fairness or something?

Many of these comments show people who confirm the fact that there is a double-standard in our society when it comes to Conservatives vs. Liberals. Comments like “those who ran on a moral platform should be exposed and those who did not run on a moral platform should remain private” is basically saying that if I agree with your ideology you can stay private, but if I disagree with your ideology, you should be exposed. I happen to believe that there is one standard for all. Fair treatment means all or none are exposed (all the way back to 1993). I wouldn’t give a plugged nickel for ABC’s censorship of the list, selecting who is outed and who is not. Since ABC is a liberal organization, obviously it would be high-ranking conservatives (if there are any more on the list). I seriously doubt they would relesae certain high ranking liberals, if there are any on the list. As a conservative, I personally would want ALL exposed, including top Republicans, if they are on it, but only if going all the way back to 1993 when it was started. However, being in law enforcement, I also know that the agency having your phone number could be the result of a misdialed number or other plausible explanation. The telephone numbers do not indicate which person made the call, just the subscriber of the number (unless it was specifically from a client list). It also does not indicate that the person ever met with anyone or even paid a dime for a massage or sex or anything.

Mike said: “However, being in law enforcement, I also know that the agency having your phone number could be the result of a misdialed number or other plausible explanation. The telephone numbers do not indicate which person made the call, just the subscriber of the number (unless it was specifically from a client list). It also does not indicate that the person ever met with anyone or even paid a dime for a massage or sex or anything.”
Mike — Your comments hit the nail on the head. I think that’s what ABC has realized.

Why do so many of the posters on this site assume that the Bush administration is more worried about this than the Dems? After all, the Dems have a “former” Klansman in a major position of power in the Senate, they have Barney Frank, whose apartment was once used to RUN a male prostitution ring, and Mr. “Cold Cash” Jefferson, from Louisiana, in the House, as well as the lurid legacy of sexual, alcohol, and drug indiscretions of both the Clintons and the Kennedys. I think that moral failngs tend to cross party lines pretty easily.

It’s all about the ratings, isn’t it? There’s no other reason for the voyeurism that I can see. Why don’t you try getting some real news?

Jeff — Perfect example of the type of irrational hyperventilating I’ve been reading on this thread. First basic question — can you prove they did anything illegal?

I can’t believe the religious republicans could have any of their own on the list.

In the words of the immortal Mel Brooks.
“What do you mean you don’t do it? We all do it. I just did it and I am ready to do it again.”
History of the World, Part I
Women have a sex drive too. If you have to pay you’re messed up.

Well, Linda, the first tip-off to me that you specifically are hyperventilating is the fact that you admit to being a bleeding heart liberal, which indicates that you emote rather than employ reason and rationality.
You said: “But nobody listens to bleeding heart liberals these days.”
You’re right, Linda. And there’s a reason for that.

Before I started reading comments on blogs and news sites, I naively thought there was some hope for the world. But how can a democracy work with an electorate like the sample above?
Here’s what I realized one day several years ago. How often does it happen that someone examines all sides of some policy question and then thoughtfully concludes that the way best to proceed for all concerned is even slightly different from the way that’s best for the thinker personally?
If people were rational this would be common but in reality it basically doesn’t happen. Everybody rationalizes such that whatever is best and most comfortable for them personally seems best overall. And they will argue for it energetically.

well, if they called 20 times it probably wasn’t due to dialing errors.

I think if there must be a lot of Democrates on the list and that’s wht they don’t want it printed. If it were all Republicans you know it would on the fron page of the NY Times.

If they are going to release it, will they include the names of all the MEDIA types on it, or will they cover their own rear ends as they always do?

It’s ironic that many of these guys who use escorts are so ugly that no sane women would want to have sex with them anyway and that certainly includes politicians. So, patriachy created esocort systems and other systems because they wouldn’t get laid at all. Patriachy sure is interested to underpay women, keep them socially inferior, no matter how much they study (it’s freaking hard to pay the bills these days) to such an extend that the needs of ugly men will always be met. As a result, there maybe never be equality therefore.
Legal escort service, buwahahahaha! The system works well for these dickheads patriachs.
I sure love men, but not hypocrits!

boy we could not wait to let the crazy killer from VA spew his venom on TV but now we are so worried about listing names of men who have behaved badly —give it a rest. The best way to stop stupid behavior is to embarrass those doing it. We used to put the names and pictures of bad guys in the newspapers so you could see who was a misfit! I think that is due again , might work better than religion or jail time !

Amazing!!prosecute the alleged madam but don’t go after illegal aliens. The rule of law is so flexible.

We all know that MEDIA types are as pure as driven snow. They do not know sin as they are above all of us.

Great job Ok! The federal government needs to get tougher on this INVASION, on our southern border. The illegals should be given 90 days to sell their assets and get out. After which time if they stay, they should have their assets confiscated and be charged with a felony, a year in jail, and deportation with no hope of obtaining legal status in this country. A second offense should be five years mandatory followed by deportation. Also all free healthcare, and taxpayer benefits should be removed.

The real story here is the connection between K Street/Abramoff types using lobbying/PAC money to provide sexual favors via services like Pamela Martin Associates to prominent politicians and political appointees to get them to vote or craft policy that benefitted their clients. This is what Carol Lam was investigating Dusty Foggo (#3 at CIA) for, and the reason she was fired. That is why the majority intuitively know that this scandal is more GOP than DEM; the GOP over the last 6 years have perfected the corruption of our elections, legislation and the politicization of government activities for partisan gain. I am sure that there are DEMs involved, but the impetus was the nexus of Rove, Abramoff, and obscene amounts of lobbying money to corrupt our political process and government agencies.
Regarding the ridiculous “I just got a massage” defense; why would someone pay $300 for an “escort” to massage them when a legitimate, licensed massage therapist charges about $100 for the real deal?

That lawyer is not yet in a court of law. His client is in the court of public opinion, where he will receive a fair trial, after which he will be convicted. That’s the way it works in THAT court. If your client didn’t want this to go public, he should have kept his privates to himself.

Be reporters!
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