‘D.C. Madam’ Client Ready to Testify About Sex

What a shame, maybe would have been better
if they all had been neutered.
Could have saved we taxpayers a lot of
money since the judicial system does
seem to be overfed to begin with.

mixon,
let me get this straight.All these men that are being outed in hiring prostitutes and you’re calling this madam a “loony tunes character”? Could it be that these hypocrites are all turning out to be CONservatives from the party of “family values” is why you came to this conclusion?
The GOP party is being outed everyday for their phoney “morality” they love to claim,and I am loving it!! These men are not being forced to hire prostitutes so I feel it’s nobody’s fault but THEIRS. I hope they all see Karma real soon.
CON-servatives…….wave the flag and claim to own it…talk about God and claim to own him…claim to be the only people on this planet who are patriotic.Well,now they can RIGHTFULLY claim they are the most corrupt,immoral hypocrites world wide.

the GOP perverts? Con-servatives? Funny how your memory is lacking from the Clinton administration and his free call girl service with his own interns there, don’t ya think? Perhaps if you would take that plank out of your eye and address the issue, instead of the party, you just might have an awakening of sorts.

It’s interesting that everyone seems to assume that all the clients will be Republicans. Don’t Democrats have sex too! I assume that there will be men from both parties and that no group, liberal or conservetive, will be able to say they weren’t involved.

I hope every single one of these double standard, hypocritical, bible-thumping, lying, con-men called politician not only have their careers ruined, but are ruined financially too.
After all, money and power is all their pay reverence too. They make me physically sick.
Oh and as for Monica and Clinton – last time I checked she wasn’t working for an Escort service, nothing was ‘paid for’ and she was a stupidly starry-eye young woman that should have known better. And I mean not only in the whole affair but in the Linda Tripp debacle too.

Hey Tony, what does the GOP or “conservatives” have to do with it either? From the information provided, her services included a broad sprectrum of influencial figures. Blinders dude; they impede vision.

Hmm, what are some of the unpleasant things The Ullman did that the Escort girls said were so unpleasnt that they wouldn’t see him a second time? Or would that, too, be beneath his dignity to comment on–until otherwise revealed?

Ulman’s gotta be an idiot. this kinda squeeze play might have worked in private – but ABC has got the records. He’s screwed.

Dawn, how do you know what most conservatives do regarding their sex life?

I’m just wondering when the LWF’s will start calling for the next Salem Witch Hunt. Burn them at the stake they say. Hypocrites.

I kind of thought this was about prostitution and well extortion. 4 months seems rather paltry and yer all being taken for a ride…
The “johns” are paying left and right and this dame will no doubt write a book a make a chunk of change off of the public’s and law enforcement’s stupidity.
THROW THE BOOK AT HER!

I think the central reason why no one is interested in the Dems is b/c they are already being accused of ‘destroying the moral fabric of America.’ Where’s the fun in seeing a person who is already being told that they have no morals being outed?
We want to see the hypocritical conservatives eat some crow meat when it comes out that they wake up Sunday morning to go to Church- they wake up next to a call girl!

The underlying issue here is the ‘World’s Oldest Profession.’ The fact that prostitution is illegal in this day and age is ridiculous. Whether you agree with it or not, there’s no way in this world or any other you’re going to stop it.
Do what they’ve done in Nevada – legalize it, regulate it (mandatory condoms, periodic free health checks for the girls) and leave it be. If you support it, fine – if you don’t, and it’s against your morals, then don’t patronize it.
Sex isn’t going away, people. It’s a part of life, and the fact that we attempt to make laws to regulate how, when, and where it’s right or wrong (outside of child abuse and rape) for consenting adults is a mentality that should have died with the Crusades.

This is too funny….
You always hear the Rep talking about how marriage is a blessed union only to be shared and taken seriously between men and women. But they so HELL NO to same sex couples who only want to be acknowledged as a legal spouse. But yet here are the REPS…cheating on their wives, cheating on their BLESSED UNION. The HOMOSEXUALS should march on Washington, demanding whats only fair.
I love my family….but yet I am secretly calling the escort service for a massage…Can’t your wife rub your back and give you a happy ending….FOR FREE…. STOP SPENDING TAX DOLLARS…..

I guess my point being is that Clinton was also a hypocrite to have an affair. Just as any person on that list likely will be. Democrat or Republican.

First of all, to whoever, mentioned it, it is highly unlikely that Ullman could be charged with soliciting — the statute of limitations on any possible solicitiation is long passed. It would be like someone saying “yeah, I bought weed off that guy a couple years ago.” You’re not going to be charged with anything.
Second, Palfrey is delusional if she thinks solicitation is the same as violating RICO laws, which is what she’s charged with. Sorry, Jeane, you’re in this by yourself.
Finally, she and her whackjob attorney overreached on this. If I were one of these guys whose name she leaked, like Ullman I’d say, “So, you thought you could leak my name, ruin my career and then I’d help you by testifying that nothing happened. Well, guess what — I got nothing to lose and I’m going to testify against you.” I’ll bet she feels pretty ill right now.

Zamura, finally someone that gets it. I agree with you 100%

Enough is now known to turn this sex scandal into a sting that nets all the hookers and all the politicians. One and all have broken the law and each must be required to serve time in a federal pen or be executed. The madam and her crew can go to jail, her republican supporters should be juiced on the gurney.

A politican/washington d.c. insider caught lying and paying for sex. Nope, I just don’t believe that could EVER happen, not with our good, wholesome, family loving politicians.
Last time I checked you can’t pay for sex, unless you’re married, then you pay it all, save half and get divorced.

Michael’s the only one who gets it. Make prostitution legal and free up law enforcement for ‘real’ crimes, like felonies, murders, drug busts. Sheesh. A lotta hullaballoo over nuttin. Ain’t much different than a guy taking a girl out to an expensive restaurant and expecting to be compensated in the bedroom. Like the fella said, sex is never going away

There’s something unseemly about going on a nookie hunt to uncover who got their pitards hoisted over the past thirteen years. It’s only news if the the preponderance of clients include many of the right wing neocon hypocrits
who are morally bankrupt. But, I’m willing to bet that the nookie sales to Dems and Repubs balance out over the thirteen history of the enterprise.
Ronniebeans

Mary Lou – you make my point!

Like T.I. said, “Bring em out, bring em out!” Palfrey is no heroine, and is dragging this out for revenge, but if you we’re stupid enough to use her service, you had to know in the back of your head that you might get caught. If you thought you were above it, you were playing yourself.
Wonder how many calls ABC News is taking from friends and cronies on the list. They say they’re under legal pressue and whatnot, but you can truthfully say someone’s office number shows up on a list, if in fact, someone’s office number shows up on a list. Someone might say, “Well, you’re making an accusation.” You’re not. You’re just reporting that someone’s number showed up on the list. It’s not the press’ job to explain how it got there. It’s there. Report what’s in front of you. You report, we decide. I know my number’s not on the list … if Congressman X’s is, we have the right to ask how it got there.

I love the comment that Bill Clinton didn’t pay for it so that’s the difference. Hmmm…let’s see…Bill Clinton uses Monica as his semen dumping ground during work hours. If I do recall, the taxpayers paid both Bill and Monica’s salary at the time. I don’t remember requesting them to engage in sex on my dime. I guess that is the difference…WE paid for Bills follies.

It’s funny. Dems are just as hypocrites just like Repubs. However Dems dont say we are about bringing morality back. then you find out evangilicals who supported them are having relationships with transvestites while smoking meth together, gop party members are trying to have sex with underage pages, now they paying for nookie. Wow this gets more and more ridiculous. not that dems are not about morals but we are also about being human which means you make mistakes in judgement. Repubs pass it off as if they do not make bad judgements, then when they get caught they say hey look at the dems they did it too.

DC chatter has it that many of these, ahem, massages, took place as payoffs by the Rep/K Street lobby cartel to pliant power brokers. If true, the action was certainly top heavy with bible thumping wingnuts. As for the notion that Dems will be equally represnted because ‘..they have sex too’, yes we do, but we have it granted to us willingly, GOPers have to pay for it!

OOOPS..I forgot..Clinton NEVER had sex with that woman..how sillllly of me!

This is a non-story about adults who had no gripe about any aspect of their private transaction until the government got involved and it became a legal proceeding.
Some of the posters perhaps need a more measured response to a limited issue.

The bottom line is it doesn’t matter what party you belong to. Republicans and Democrats are all human and we make mistakes. Clinton cheated on his wife and so did these other men if they were married. If the ladies and guys involved are found guilty they should pay for the crime. I will give the person more credit if they come clean and admit their mistake. Most won’t because those in Washington can’t ever seem to find the word truth in a dictionary to understand what the definition means.

The leftists here shriek about Republican hypocracy, yet Clinton claimed to be pro feminist while being accussed by young single women (friends and associatites, not ‘right wingers’)of two rapes (one, Juanita Broderick, was aggravated rape) and approximately eight other sexual assaults, including acts committed while he was president. Hillary effectively served as his ‘get away driver’, working from the gutter to intimidate her husband’s victims into not going to authorities when the crimes were committed. These were real, voilent sexual predations, not consenting acts between john and escort. And, by the way, as someone who dabbles in the world of high end escorts, many of their clients are well known, Hollywood types (e.g., Charlie Sheen), most of whom are leftists. So get off the high horse.

I find it interesting that there is this big assumption that all of Palfrey’s clients were Republicans. She turned over more than 10,000 phone numbers and so far only two identities have been disclosed. Remember that Dick Morris was using an escort service when he was working in the White House for Clinton. Toe sucking was his fetish.
Now lets get equal here. I want not only the names of the clients but the whores as well. If it’s time to ruin names and careers then lets ruin all. These “ladies’ of the evening have gone on to higher profile jobs to include one who is a legal secretary for Vernon Jordan and Bob Schrum. Both staunch Democrats.

So far, the only names ABC has ‘hinted’ at are Republicans.
Can’t you all realize that the full list will never be released by ABC?
If they out the Democrats on the list, they will lose the trust of all their ‘anonynous’ contacts and leakers who get them ‘scoops’.

Bob — Regardless of the merits of the law, prostitution is illegal, and soliticiting prostitution is illegal. The public has a compelling interest to know which of our leaders feel they’re above the law. (That includes private citizens who become public figures by advocating for particular issues of public concern — i.e., lobbyists.) If they dislike the law, they can change it. That’s one debate. But in theory in this country, you’re not allowed to break the law selectively, regardless of whether it’s a private transaction. It’s far from a non-issue.

Slip, ABC is protecting both Dems and R’s. You need friends on both sides.

I’ve been waiting a long time for
a juicy sex scandal like this. Thank
you abc

Repubs caught in DC sex scandal..
CLINTON!
US Prosecutors fired for GOP politics
CLINTON!!
Iraq quagmire and lies
CLINTON!!
White House outs CIA agent
CLINTON!!
The GOP, out of ideas and excuses.

I bet that list ends up being 50/50 GOP & Dem – with small number of ladies on it too…..

Allow me to say, that ALL men pay for sex one way or the other. Dinner and a movie, jewelry, if we aren’t getting the goods neither are the men. So judge how you please, I say if you’ve got it flaunt it sister. I was told once that I should use my talents and abilities and do what I love for a living well now we know where that would get me – on the stand with Palfrey

This is a country that was founded under rule of law. Law breakers should be judged all the same. The well placed
elite if a law breaker should be judged the same as common people. I exceptions are made for one group or class, then the law should be abolished for all.

Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative, Democrat/Republican. Most here could find a way, however convoluted, to turn just about any news story in to a juvenile, partisan talking points forum (see above). We’re a few hours away from hearing a small fraction of a very long list but most Democrats posting here swear all the Johns are likely to be Republicans because the first to be named, was a Republican. Will the same Lefties be back here to apologize when it’s revealed there are just as many or more of their liberal friends on the list? Not likely. Ain’t the anonymity of the web great (if your a partisan hack)?
My name is Joseph Crowley, I’m a card-carrying Republican and damn proud of both!

All of you need to get the significance of the statement by professional hookers that this man was an “unpleasant person” as they refused to service him a second time. Most of the bush and cheney cabal of losers like this cat are as unpleasant as this world has ever produced. And the MAINSCREAM media like the Rev.Moons’ WHITEWASHINGTON TIMES SHILL RAG supped on this mans fruition, eh?????

Amanda — what about those Republicans who are conservative on fiscal issues, but not on “family values” issues? Or what about Democrats who are strong “family values” supporters (a lot of them beat Republicans in November)? I’m confused. Are you just looking for anyone with an R next to their names?

Adultery is a crime…..
Misdemeanor
DC Code Citation: §22-201
Former Code Citation: §22-301
Charge Elements: The elements of this offense are:
1. The defendant was married;
2. The defendant had sexual intercourse with a person other than his or her spouse;
3. The intercourse was voluntary.

I’d doo herrrr!!!

Repulicans partaking in activities that cause young women to need birth control and abortion. Personally, I’m starting to believe that it’s too bad that the Republicans didn’t eliminate reproductive freedoms for women. Can you just imagine how much you could soak these guys in child support?

The difference between conservatives and liberals is that when the conservative frauds are found out we want them to out and punished, the liberals make excuses. I hope all the conservative johns are found out. We deserve ethical leaders, there is no reason to settle for these bottom dwellers. Liberals have low expectations, and therefore get what they deserve. Conservatives have high expectations and won’t accept less.

Here we are.
May 4, 2007.
Having a discussion about hookers and their johns. About Republicans and Democrats. About whether Paris Hilton should do time for driving without a license. About an angry phone call from some half-baked actor to his daughter.
Why isn’t someone going after Osama Bin Laden????

Who is ‘D.C. Madam’? Vallejo woman is enigmaWyatt Buchanan, John Coté, Henry K. Lee and Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff WritersSunday, April 1, 2007
Jeane Palfrey, as most people know her, is a woman with strong convictions who is full of contradictions. She describes herself as an honest, trustworthy teetotaler who cares about women, but she went to jail in the 1990s for “attempted pimping.” She once said her childhood was idyllic, but blasted her high school classmates for driving her close to a nervous breakdown.
She is, depending on who is talking, boastful or shy, generous or vindictive. She says she believes in the Golden Rule, but once vowed to show “no mercy” in a legal battle with a former lover and his new wife.
Palfrey holds a grudge and acts on her passions, whether it means tirelessly pursuing that former lover, building an escort empire or placing the blame for her troubles on a law enforcement conspiracy.

Palfrey’s senior photo in the Charleroi Area High School’s 1974 yearbook shows a pretty, smiling brunette, described as someone who “likes sewing and dancing … enjoys being with friendly, outgoing people” and plans to go to “airline school.”
But she never finished her senior year. She explained later that she fled to Florida and graduated from a high school there because she was “close to a nervous breakdown after years of psychological abuse,” the result of being “incessantly bullied” by 17-year-old “jackasses.”
Palfrey re-emerged on the Charleroi scene about four years ago, when she launched an alumni Web site and later began urging city leaders to use local graduates as a resource to help revitalize the town.
Her former classmates were astounded when she used the site for a tirade against her high school tormenters. They were, she wrote, “the cruelest, meanest and most horrid creatures any of us probably will ever encounter in our lifetimes.”
“Karma can be a real ass-kicker when it comes to injustice,” she wrote. “And believe me, they got whooped. Every last one of them.”
None of Palfrey’s classmates interviewed recently remembered her being bullied or mistreated.
“Her diatribe, that stuff there, that’s borderline,” said Donn Henderson, an alumnus who helped organize a joint reunion in 2005 for all the high school’s classes from the 1970s. “She had told some people that she was going to come back and tell people how she felt about them. People were starting to get concerned.”
Henderson said he had a dust-up with Palfrey over the school reunion and downtown Charleroi’s revitalization efforts, two projects he was in charge of coordinating. “She came up with some ideas about how we could promote Charleroi and I didn’t agree with it,” Henderson said. “She called for my head, saying I should resign.”
Palfrey, Henderson said, had boasted of connections to “people with millions and millions of dollars,” but the money never materialized.
It wasn’t the only time her pronouncements lacked solid footing. Until recently, her resume on the alumni Web site stated that she was “affiliated” with the National and California Innocence Projects and the Berkeley-based Life After Exoneration Program, organizations that represent and provide support for wrongly convicted inmates. Officials at the groups said she was never involved in any of the projects except when she once proposed a case, which was rejected, and donated money.
This article appeared on page A – 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle
Paterra, who lost touch with Palfrey after high school, said his former prom date now seems more conflicted than the “sweet girl” who danced with him to “Summer Breeze.”
“There must be two sides to her,” Paterra said. “I think there are two personalities to Debbie.”

OK, Legal strategy coming:
In the case of Mr. Shock and Awe I am of the understanding that his little equipment falls well short of both Shock and Awe. So there is the legal position: the hottie shows up for a little dancing and a massage. Ding Dong she comes into the abode of old gieser Mr. Shock and Awe. He excuses himself and uses one of the many male enhancement concoctions on the market (well in his case he double-ups) and returns for the dance show.
Now, 15 minutes later he starts the massage and the chemicals are activating – unknown to the hired hottie. Now, the old gieser Mr. Shock and Awe is feeling the power of the chemicals and like many in Washington DC understand there is now an unauthorized contract over-run and the hottie, like most Women-Owned Small Business entities she is a sever disadvantage to the all powerful Mr. Shock and Awe
She call outs seeking Federal Contract Assistance but none arrives and like all Small Business entities she suffers at the hands of a Washington DC insider – she gets screwed.
Pamela Martin and Associates told her not to have sex and she agreed and signed a contract to the same. Unknown to her Mr. Shock and Awe had an unauthorized chemical advantage and she was a at a sever disadvantage to Mr. Shock and Awe’s over powering chemical induced power.

I am an idependent, so I can comment about both sides of the isle. To the Democrats, you are to disorganized to have a network in the field of prostitution. Any Democrats on the list will surely be sole contributors. Maybe you will soon be called “Connies.”

James — thanks for clarifying.
M.

Too bad we have to get all up in an uproar over voluntary sex…we need a cabinet position created for this… just so more of these low life politicians can get l-a-i-d…more nookie, less agression..that’s why Clinton was so passive about Osama, the bombing of the Cole, the embassy bombings, the first world trade center bombing, etc…he was getting it regularly.

wow, if people could only focus and put these energies where they are needed than we might fuction better as a nation.
Than again, look at how many people here cant agree. As the late james brown would say “aaaaaaahhh Living in America”

This 80 year old grandpa thinks, “What has happened to this world and to these people who think so very much of sex and so little about the serious domestic and worldwide unresolved problems this country faces! This is 2007 ????

Prostitution is only illegal if the payment is made on a per sexual act basis. I don’t see anyone prosecuting professional trophy wives and gold diggers. The entire law is hypocritical. Either prosecute both parties, prosecute gold diggers and giggilos, or get government entirely out of our bedrooms.

Slick Willy Clinton pretended he was Bon Govi and his groupies were interns. People who hire escort services pay for their entertainment good or bad. “He who is without sin cast the first stone”. That’s biblical for those of you who have forgotten. We’re defending a country that still stones teenagers for not associating with the right tribe

i wonder how many ppl ABC will deliberately protect? Well we know they will definitely oust any and all conservatives, but the question is how many libs will they protect?

clinton was ABSOLUTELY illegal and reprehensible. That is sexual harrasment of the highest order. A boss who has sexual connections with a subordinate is bad enough….but the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES with an intern? Oh man how utterly disgraceful. Clinton is a disgrace to this country.

I am a convinced Roman Catholic Christian, and am about as socially and politically conservative as you will find. I have never in my forty-eight years on this earth partaken of a prostitute’s services or been unfaithful to my wife. I cannot understand why, in a country founded on principles of personal freedom and personal responsibility, we insist on criminalizing behavior I deem immoral and self destructive, but which involves consenting adults and which directly injures no one but the participants. The same goes for criminalizing gambling or the sale and use by competent adults of recreational drugs, and a host of other so-called “moral” crimes. If the morally/socially/psychologically deviant behavior leads to conduct that injures or seriously endangers others, punish the dangerous conduct directly, just as, in most places, we don’t punish alcohol consumption per se, but do punish driving while intoxicated, or beating one’s spouse or children while in a drunken stupor.
By the way, Clinton is an arrested adolescent and a cad and his having been elected to two presidential terms remains a national disgrace, but I would not have impeached or convicted him for having consensual sex with an adult intern. I would have impeached him and removed him from office for committing clear perjury in a deposition taken by his adversary in a lawsuit, after the judge had specifically ordered him to answer the questions at issue. I would also have fined him heavily, as the judge in the Jones case ultimately did. I read the deposition (including the definition of “sex”) and, as a litigation lawyer, I could have convicted him of perjury with my eyes closed. It wasn’t “just about sex.” It was about a conscious effort illegally to deprive an opposing litigant of evidence to which the judge had expressly ruled she was entitled.

I think this whole debacle is outrageous- prostitution should be legal in this country and they should have their own union just like the Netherlands. Monica Lewinsky was 23-24 when she was having an affair with Bill, hardly a “young impressionable” intern- everyone knows what they are doing at that age, you must think she was under 18 or something.

Johns are like drug addicts, while Madams like Pelrey are like Drug Pushers. I think we know who is going to get the book thrown at them.

Sooo..Did Bill, or for that matter, Hillary, enjoy these services?

Cool it,, everybody!! Just watch 20/20 tonight to get the “skinny”.

Janda-
Of course, Dems have sex, they just don’t have to buy it!
JT

More from Allen, who said that all porn purveyors are leftist (where’s that guy at?): from the New York Times-
“The General Motors Corporation, the world’s largest company, now sells more graphic sex films every year than does Larry Flynt, owner of the Hustler empire. The 8.7 million Americans who subscribe to DirecTV, a General Motors subsidiary, buy nearly $200 million a year in pay-per-view sex films from satellite, according to estimates provided by distributors of the films, estimates the company did not dispute.
“EchoStar Communications Corporation, the No. 2 satellite provider, whose chief financial backers include Mr. Murdoch, makes more money selling graphic adult films through its satellite subsidiary than Playboy, the oldest and best-known company in the sex business, does with its magazine, cable and Internet businesses combined, according to public and private revenue accounts by the companies.
“AT&T Corporation, the nation’s biggest communications company, offers a hard-core sex channel called the Hot Network to subscribers to its broadband cable service. It also owns a company that sells sex videos to nearly a million hotel rooms. Nearly one in five of AT&T’s broadband cable customers pay an average of $10 a film to see what the distributor calls ‘real, live all-American sex — not simulated by actors.’”

What profession is prostitution, the best for YOUR daughter, right, as much respected as lets say a medical doctor.
Every women wants to be a ho therefore, including your daughter? :-)

You think it’s only the republicans that screw around? Hell, come on and fess up and be proud of it. It didn’t hurt Sheen and his careeer is bigger than ever.

No doubt the list will contain members of both political parties, but I think the comments about the Republicans getting shown to be hypocrites are well deserved. I mean which party has held itself up as the only true defenders of our way or life and family values? Which party produces people like Newt who could prosecute an impeachment at the same time he carried own his own affair in a closet? In addition, Republicans do in fact have this nasty habit of labeling anyone who disagrees with their views as being a commie, pinko queer. McCarthyism? They’ve put Senator McCarthy to shame by perfecting his smear tactics into an artform. Yes, it will be most amusing to see how many neo-con cockroaches crawl out of this woodwork, and I will be watching for them eagerly.

Who cares? So someone paid for sex?!
Should the vendor or buyer be prosecuted? Maybe both?
And who pays for that?
At least somebody beside us was getting f****d besides us.
Decriminalize this type of thing.
To penalize them is like watching that poor girl in Iraq get stoned to death by the moral police for liking a boy of another religion.
That is the real crime.

The fact that someone would step forward and testify just blows me away.

Cory is right. We are all the “losers”.
AND THE WINNERS IS…..ABC NEWS for taking us all for a ride.
Honorable mention goes to Ms. Palfrey who will now be able to retire from the pimping profession and become the author of a “soon-to-be-made-movie” book.
As usual, we are ones getting the proverbial shaft.
Unfortunately, the biggest losers will be the families of the johns. They are after all, the only innocent victims here.
By the way. Has anyone else taken any time to crunch figure. If this service only made $2million in 13 years, do you rally believe it had between 10000 & 15000 clients (depending on which article you read) and 132 employees (er, excuse me, SUBCONTRACTORS.)
If the business had 132 contractors providing services 3 nites per week at a rate of a conservative $200 per hour for 13 years, the amount should be in excess of $50million.
I really would like to know why the federal prosecutors are spending our money to chase a business that they claim was grossing $154,000 per year?
Oh, not that I am personally knowlegable in these matters, but $200 to $300 per hour seems awefully cheap to me for the kind of services and the touted clientele.

We live in a society that tells us North is up and South is down, East is to the right and West is to the left. Who is to say where the Earth is placed in stellar reference? Do you realize that it takes 3 RIGHTS to make 1 LEFT? Sex IS the oldest profession, no one can refute that. The only reson sex for sale is illegal is because of people with little or no self confidence. If you are everything your mate needs, you have no worries, and if you aren’t you better start learning. Quit dangling the prospect of sex over you partners head It isn’t a political thing if you don’t make it that, just good old energy which needs to be releived. Most sex starts at partys, which is all the more reason to abandon the two party system, hell let’s put no limit on the partys and be totally human!

Group, everyone has pent up feelings. We can fix it , we just need to vote.
If you don’t vote, don’t bitch. Pogo said we have met the enemy and he is us.
The silent majority is getting screwed everyday – not the rich – not the poor -just the suckers like us.
Oh, HUH – the topic is sex in the city not war – hello!?

I howled with laughter over these dignified men who think they are above all the rest of us, getting caught with their pants down, literally. It made me really angry, however, to hear TV pundits blame it all on the madame and her girls. If there wasn’t a market for these services they would not exist. I guess the neocons are more kinky than we thought…we already know they are insane with power.

ihbwap3 writes:
“Well,now they can RIGHTFULLY claim they are the most corrupt,immoral hypocrites world wide”
uhmm, perhaps you were drunk back when it happened but that would have been the administration of Bill Clinton. You rad lib Democrats should know a thing or two about that, eh?

what Clinton did was worse
preying on an intern over whom he held sway

How stupid when people say GWB lied. He used the same intelligent reports Bill Clinton used. The same reports that his wife read as First Lady and as a Senator. Listen to Hilary in he own words!
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.
Now this much is undisputed.”— Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of
United States Armed Forces Against Iraq

Only a few names have been released to date. They are, to be sure, of imperialists. So far. Do not be surprised if the vast right wing conspiracy has fabricated evidence to falsely implicate some of our beloved leaders, our comrades in the struggle.
Be on guard against any attempt by the imperialists to to besmirch the reputations of our heros. They will try!
Just look at how they distorted the selfless efforts of President Clinton (peace be upon him) to counsel a young woman entrusted to his care!
Take note of the attempt to smear our brother from New Orleans when, after Dick Cheney torpedoed the levies from a mini-sub, he placed a few thousand dollars in his freezer for the sole purpose of helping the displaced brothers and sister should the president attempt, as he did, to exterminate them.
Any imperialist republican who took advantage of this desperate woman should be held to strict account! How wonderful that a few of our comrades in the struggle were trying to help her, and how sad that the imperialist press will pretend that they were no different from the republican exploiters.

Doesn’t Our Country have bigger problems than busting people for having sex…. who cares if they paid for it. People pay for it everyday…oh, maybe not in cash but in a diamond ring for your girlfriend or a dinner for your boyfriend…. same thing just different payment. Let’s focus on the big issue of this war that we should never have been fighting in cause we were lied too.

No…the topic is about the DC Madam and the corruption it exposed of Rep/Dems. And if you were honest you would admit that there are some that take great pride on the fall of one party over another and then tout thaT their party can do no wrong! I just show that both parties can do wrong and that one party seems to at least strive for a greater level of honesty!

If a citzen in the private sector had sex with a subordinate (a la Monica /Bill), that citzen would be terminated immediately.

Great, prosecute them all and move on. This should not take so long to figure out and make convictions and jail. Bring in all the customers and everyone involved.
LOCK THEM ALL UP! AT LEAST PALFREY

Since when is sex for money a FEDERAL crime? All the Feds need to do is visit Nevada.
CALL THIS WHAT IT IS- A POLITICAL CRIME.

Wow. The whole “victimeless crime” scenario. Has anyone bothered looked at the facts of the “sex industry”
Nationally, the average age of entry into prostitution is 14.
Even younger than the soldiers the pig boomers are sending to IRAQ.
Why don’t the middle aged profiteers go fight their own war and screw each other?

What does the sex industry have to do with prostitution? Underage prostitution is a product of drugs and bad parenting.

Talk about “An Inconvenient Truth………..This little escapade may add explosive gasses to DC!

to steve434…rep folly? Where was chris hansen when we needed him? Folley is the one who chaired when Jessicas law was put into affect. Helped write the law! The creator gets a pardon.

WOW…sex sure brings out the best in us! Don’t know what’s more entertaining…the story or the posts!

I don’t care for the hypocrisy that characterizes the GOP, but outing someone for having sex with a prostitute is a private and personal matter, regardless of poltical affiliation. A wholesale outing is quite reprehensible, unless, of course, it concerns some public figure whose moral preachings about private conduct are inconsistent with prostitution.

ihbwap3 – Karma is a word that simply means actions. Karma can be good or it can be bad. Everyone sees karma.
To Buddhists, at death our karma is weighed, the relationship between good actions (good karma) and bad actions in one’s life determines his next.
To revel in the suffering of others, be they right (or left I guess ;-)) or wrong is simply, to me, “bad karma.”
Anger Blinds Wisdom – His Holiness, the Dalai Lama

If there any big-shot Dem names on the list, you can be sure they won’t be broadcast on 20/20.

Didn’t the Washington Times also have an HR director resign because he was soliciting 13 year olds on Craigslist? What is Moonie putting in the water over there?

I’m very relieved that there are still
some Republican heterosexuals. I would
strongly advise Carl to exploit this
Madame to our best advantage.

I wonder when the complete client list is going to be revealed.

Talk about “All hat, no cattle” What a disappointment that was.

What a disappointment! Was ABC afraid to “name names”? Publish the “non-newsworthy” list!

This is all so ridiculous it would be laughable if so many people were not rotting away in torture chambers called the prison system, tortured every minute of their lives for victimless crimes manufactured by our lovely bloodstained GOP. GOP hypocrites and their sharia law…issuing faquas ad infinitum to choler the folks of this country who long for freedom from big brother (again GOP idiots). The GOP stands and is synonymous with hypocrisy, duplicity, greed, evil, stupidity, did i say hypocrisy…I have come to the conclusion that the reason they are so vicious and evil is because they can’t see themselves in the mirror…pure evil has always had that problem.

Now, might this “client” Harlan Ullman be a Democrat? The idea with this all too ready and willing testimony would be to show that any Republican is a liar if he says her services were just for “massages,” plus a nice payoff from the DNC.

Perhaps the high-profile names are in Al Capone’s vault. What a bust.

Prostitution, regulated and health inspected, and heavily taxed is practiced across Western Europe, Canada and Japan. The sex trade workers are adults, and protected from exploitation from pimps and from abuse by johns by working in legal brothels under Police protection. Why not in the US. You Americans are so messed up when it comes to sex you put these people in jail. The rest of the civilized world is laughing at you.

i have alot more to say…but they are scrubbing it…lol…i guess thats how real journalism works…you take the constructive criticism and push delete…all i am saying is that the head of a conservative think tank is newsworthy…

Now, what do you think ‘unpleasant’ means, and why would a girl refuse to ‘service’ him again?
There’s only one explanation:POOR TIPS!
He is a repub, after all. They keep only 2 things zipped-their minds and their wallets.

Aunty Em,
If there is Catholic Priest-parishoner confidentiality in Confession shouldn’t there be hooker-client confidentiality too as a professional ethic?
Hey! “Shock and Awe” sounds like a good name for a brothel franchise if Nevada ever opens up the flood gates in a new capitalist Gold Rush. These think tank guys inside the Beltway really have a nack for catchy phrases.

I don’t mind if she goes down in her case…. as long as she takes some of these beasts down with her… it will be all worth it.

You can go to church without being self-righteous, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou. You can go to church without accusing the other party of destroying the moral fiber of the country through it’s decadent debased lifestyle. In fact going to church should induce humility in a person. If I recall, it was the republicans who started the culture wars. Hypocrisy, thy name is republican.

If republicans are so in tune with God why do they keep electing these minions of Beelzebub?

If those lists of phone numbers were turned over to a resource like Talking Points Memo, there would be hundreds of people digging through them overnight.
Names would be attached to those numbers, cross-checked, and posted within 24 hours.

May I suggest that prostitution should simply be legalized? Certainly it is a disgusting line of work and, I believe, a sinful one. But who am I to physically coerce a person from sinning? Alas, even Christ himself did not coerce people to not sin; He never forced people to stop sinning by threatening their lives, well-being, or property. On the other hand, Jesus spoke out against prostitution as a choice an individual had to make. It seems to me He was very effective: Mary Magdalene was, after all, a prostitute. Let’s not get so involved in righteous dogma and glory theology; such always lead to sin. How much does each tax-payer spend on prosecuting this case when 99.999% of us are unaffected by this case? Those who are affected obviously mutually gained through the transaction. It is therefore not even a crime. Get rid of this idiocy, now.

Lets remember that private consenting adult prostitution is legal in almost all the world except the U.S., with no negative issues. It is not like street hookers, its professional women making a choice without the sex negative attitude of our culture.
Worldwide there are no medical issues with women running their own businesses or working with agencies. In my view sexual options benefit a culture as studies have shown the more sexually repressed a culture the more violent.
Probably 90% of prostitution is in private between consenting adults but all folks usually hear about is the desperate drugged out street hooker with a pimp which is a public nuisance and should not be legal – and isn’t in most of the world.
But in private sexual pleasure sharing is legal and valuable in most of the world as a legitimate choice. But in the U.S. in the land of the free we do not have the same legal choices most of the rest of the world enjoys. Canada is a good close by example where prostitution has always been legal and no big issue with zillions of gals choosing it. Technically only outcall is legal in Canada but the 1800′s bawdy house law is rarely enforced unless real crime going on and penalties are minor – no one goes to jail.
We need to demand the same sexual freedoms for in private consenting adult sexual options that the rest of the world enjoys and benefits from.

Again one must laugh at you con supporters. You defend these guys with the claim that “Clinton did it” yet you wanted him impeached. I personally couldn’t care less who is having sex with who. I won’t call those guys hypocrits, I reserve that for you people who choose to defend them!!!

There is no greater sin than exalting one’s own will as God’s will. That is what the republican party has foisted on this country:the ultimate sin. Bush says that God told him to invade Iraq. Delay claims to be persecuted like Christ. These are deadly delusions.

If a citzen in the private sector had sex with a subordinate (a la Monica /Bill), that citzen would be terminated immediately.
no. My boss coerced me into having sex with him. I finally rebelled 13 years later. I left the field of research I loved. He was promoted. And later, was part of an ethics panel. I was apalled.

It’s not the sex stupid, it’s the HYPOCRISY of course! These holier than though Republican utter hypocrites are beyond belief. How anyone on this earth could even THINK of voting for them is beyond me. They are corruption ad nauseum. They want abstinence for all except them. What utter garbage. Read my lips: NO ONE but NO ONE can have an easy time denying sexuality. Just ask a few thousand priests if abstinence worked for them. God, if there is one, must shake his head in utter disgust. Of course Democrats commit their own sexual indiscretions but at least that party does not base its very foundation on sexual morality. The Republican party needs to think very seriously about just what morality is. How about feeding the poor and, clothing the naked and the meek inheriting the earth. How about clean government not dedicated to running rough shod over the little guy and not giving tax breaks to billionaires. Oh yes, and how about not bombing the living hell out of countries which did not attack us. Maybe that would gain us some friends and actually prevent another God forbid a million times, 9/11. Did ja ever think of that? I hope all these Republicans who have committed sexual hypocrisy not to mention the scads of other scandals within the administration, get their due. Maybe then I will REALLY believe there is a God!

I don’t get” roller coasters; I don’t “get” religious faith; I don’t “get” gambling. I’m nearly 60, heterosexual, male, and even during four years in the military during Vietnam never paid for sex – not due to lack of sex drive but to the obvious imbalance of power and unfairness of such “relationships.”
The Republican dilemma here is clear: It’s the Republicans and religious right who believe they have a right, even an obligation, to stick their noses into other peoples’ sexuality – unless it’s their guys caught paying for sex.
You who can’t see how closely connected “shock and awe” and being the diplomat from the Bush administration working on “abstinence,” “fidelity,” and again “human trafficking” (of which prostitution is a subset) are, well, nuts. But, then, most of you do see it – you’re just trying to drown it out. :)

I’m fairly conservative on some issues, but what a man and a woman do together is there business. Whether they pay money or not. It doesn’t sound like any of these women were harmed at least anymore than any person working in the capitalist system. Can’t live with it, can’t live without it. They broke the law, so there are consequences. If only they all lived in Nevada this wouldn’t even be an issue. Religion, spirituality, G-d have nothing to do with this.

I too think the Clintons are fairly nasty. Unfortunately nothing has ever been proven against them. They did engage in some very unethical business practices, but the serious allegations against them are just smears and nasty innuendo without any proof. However doing evil in the name of God is a distinctly republican trait that adds an extremely appaling dimension to their crimes.

I wonder, could this all be political. Why is she only outing Republicans. Anyone with an ounce of brains knows it is not only Republicans seeking these services from prostitutes. Remember the infamous blue, stained dress.

God has a book (a list) also.

Don’t pull that curtain open Toto, we don’t want to know about what is happening in Iraq right now, why we can’t find Osama, why the government lied about how Pat Tillman was killed, why drowning black people in New Orleans received less presidential attention than Terri Shiavo, why we won’t distribute condoms in Africa, why we are building military bases throughout Africa, why are oil companies drilling more in Africa, why Iraq is of such strategic importance, why . . . should I go on.

“Democrats don’t claim to be the sole, true manisfestation of God’s will on earth, and that everyone else is a reprobate heathen against whom any immoral action whatsoever is justified.
The rhetoric here is disgusting. Democrats don’t look to invest God’s will… just their own will. Substitute God, and replace it with what they themselves to be righteous is the only difference. Republicans use God as a base for moral judgement, Dems on this site use their own compass which has no structure or reason. Instead of being involved in the bedroom, it’s how you talk, how much you make, slandering anyone who disagrees with their degrees of worthless study. Going to school reciting facts does not mean that you are educated. I have a MBA from Wharton and have met many older people with no college education much wiser. Calling people names that you deem unofffensive by rules you alone set up is not educated. The difference is Republicans try to use God as the higher power for answers, Democrats believe that they themselves are the allmighty and need to just look in the mirror for and force feed their truth to the world. With regards to the war… the difference between the parties is… I’m sure most Republicans although not as displeased with going into Iraq are extremely dissapointed with the execution and lack of thought. They don’t berate what’s going on, because sometimes you just need to shut up to do what’s right. Have a problem, call your leaders, and in another 1 1/2 years, boot them out. Jumping up and screaming like a two year old because the President won’t do what you want is pathetic. The country wants leaders, and as unhappy as I am with the Republicans, I could never vote for most Democrats. This isn’t the 90′s anymore, and there are very serious issues at hand. Stop whining when you don’t get your way and learn to lead. Yelling and hyperbole isn’t leading, telling other countries your leader is a moran isn’t leading. Whatever said, Bush and Clinton, from whichever side your hate comes from are still better than Chavez, Castro, Putin, etc. Time to wake up people.

I find it very interesting that this, like every other thing in the whole world, devolves into politics and the war. Our side is good and pure and if we appear to be impure, it is probably a mistake. Your side is bad and evil, and even if we appear to be good, there must be something missing. It’s ridiculous. Politics have turned into LESS than a spectator sport. There is absolutely no such thing as “debate” in this country.
As to this case, if this woman is telling the truth, and her employees performed only legal acts, she’s going to walk – and she should. And the people who hired her employees for legal services and who were assured confidentiality, should sue her if she released their names.
On the other hand, if the madame’s employees performed illegal acts, they should be prosecuted along with the people who hired them.
Cheering because the criminals are from one party or the other is just plain stupid.

Jeane Palfrey tells us she’s not like Prof.Brandy Britton who committed suicide when she was discovered she was a “call gal”. You say you something is in you she didn’t have. If what you have isn’t from God, you either will end up in jail, or commit suicide. To escape all these, repent your sins to God and He might have mercy on you.

Dennis, Blaming Fox is a joke, did you see the questions Chris Matthews asked in a debate. Two whole minutes on immigration. The problem is, the Democrats will overcorrect and thus nothing gets accomplished. The most prosperous times in this country in the last 25 years, Reagan with Democrats to check, Clinton with Republicans to check. How to stop this mess…. term limits. The offices weren’t designed for life and that is the problem. Voting to make money and stay in power i.e. Kennedy is a joke. The republicans have many issues, but they ARE ticked at Bush and want someone else, although not a Dem. Democrats never EVER admit that their people are wrong and ask for their head and that is a problem. To actually think Reid and Pelosi are moderate thinkers is a problem as much to think Falwell is. Rational people have been squeezed out of the equation on both sides. You can believe in the war and not be a nut (Lieberman), but he just got castrated, good for him he survived. I guess the difference is thr rational Repub’s think Bush messed up, rational Dems… I think they actually believe in Reid, Murtha, and Pelosi which is scary.

Did anyone really think ABC would name names? Think about it, all ABC had was the phone records and maybe a few names – not enough to prove anything. If ABC released names with no evidence of a crime, the law suits would start immediately and ABC is smart enough to know this. Note how the only names released did NOT come from ABC first – it was the madame who released the names. So for those of you bad mouthing ABC for not releasing the names, ask yourself, “would I be willing to suffer million dollar law suits just for a prostitution story? – I think not.

I think I’m in Love with Miss Palfrey !

Guessing the only reason the list has not hit the air yet is the fact that there are probably alot of Democrats on the list. If the list contained only high level Republicans, they would have posted it asap without any confirmation. Since the list has not been published, am guessing it must show some dirt on Democrats, so it must not be news worthy.

Republicans. Don’t Democrats have sex too!”
Yes of course Dems have sex too, anyone who is human does. The point is it’s far more fun to catch the Rebs with their pants down since they are the ones always waving the morality flag. Picture Newt (loser) at the height of GOP hipocracey cheating on his wife standing on the House for pointing his boney little finger at President Clinton.. Give me a break!!

I think its pretty funny how on one hand we can make so big a deal out of something so mondain as a callgirl service and then on the other go home and watch “Cathouse” on HBO which if you didnt know is a documentary type show about a “Legal” brothel located outside of Reno.
Legalize…Legalize..Legalize
Money is much better spent on real issues.

So what do you suppose Palfrey meant when she said Ullman was a “disagreeable” character and the prostitutes wouldn’t go back to him?
Memo to ABC: even “high-end” clients can be abusive to “high-end” prostitutes. Most likely it was verbal and emotional abuse (practicing his shock and awe skills.)
But now that ABC seems to have decided that it will ignore the “sex crimes” of the high and mighty in D.C., he can probably do anything he wants to prostitutes. As long as he pays “high-end” prices ABC will cover up for him and his ilk.

Bob: these individuals want a set of rules for themselves, and another for us. That’s not a system that has the “rule of law” at all, but one that more closely resembles one with an aristocracy. Sky-high hypocricy is the real issue. “Not getting any” is not a very good diversion from the real issues-at-hand, try again.

Okay it’s official. American politicians are PERVERTS! Does everyone get that? I don’t want them charged or arrested. I’d much prefer that the tabloids list the details of their sexual preferences. I think they should be humiliated just like they humiliated their wives and the unfortunate women who were paid to service them.

What is it with folks saying that we should legalize prostitution? Just because people do it doesn’t mean it should be legalized. There are alot of things that people will always do which includes steal, kill, molest children, do drugs, lie and more. But can you imagine what would happen if stealing was legalized and molesting children? I can hear the screams and fighting now!!!