GOP Candidates Criticize ABC News Report on CIA-Iran Plan
Two Republican presidential candidates today criticized the ABC News report Tuesday about the CIA’s covert plan to destabilize the Iranian regime. "I was shocked to see the ABC News report regarding covert action in Iran," Mitt Romney said as he opened a session with reporters in Tulsa, Okla. Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., called for an investigation into who leaked the information and "condemned" ABC News for "running the story which could jeopardize American lives." The ABC News story reported that President Bush had given the CIA authorization to conduct a nonlethal covert action against Iran involving propaganda, disinformation and the manipulation of Iran’s international banking transactions. "The reporting has the potential of jeopardizing our national security. To put it quite plainly, it has the potential of affecting human life, we may never know," Romney said. Romney said he had called ABC News president David Westin to register his concerns. In a statement ABC News said, "In the six days since we first contacted the CIA and the White House, at no time did they indicate that broadcasting this report would jeopardize lives or operations on the ground. ABC News management gave them the repeated opportunity to make whatever objection they wanted to regarding our report. They chose not to." ABC News said, "This piece was very carefully reported, and it puts solid facts on the table concerning a crucial foreign policy challenge facing the United States and the world."
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What’s shocking is the US meddling in Iran.
Posted by: c | May 23, 2007, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
As they should, but I trust Ron Paul a lot more than Romney and Tancredo to do the right job. And I think Ghouliani should wake up and realize what happens when U.S. policy is akin to poking a hornets nest with a short stick(and then he should apologize to Ron Paul!)!!
Posted by: Bill Hicks | May 23, 2007, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
These two will say anything to grab a vote! We’ve got two wars going and now the blunderer-in-chief wants to get us into a third one! We have a right to know and these two clowns should keep their opnions to themselves!
Posted by: Kent G. | May 23, 2007, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Isn’t the now not-so-covert action against Iran a declaration of war? This is insane! I think that Ron Paul is right about foreign policy! Sickening…
Posted by: William Blake | May 23, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
If it were such sensitive information, and would put the lives of Americans in jeopardy, then the person leaking it should be prosecuted, however, It sounds like the it’s part of the propaganda they claim was authorized. It should be interesting to see how this one plays out.
Posted by: W. Parsons | May 23, 2007, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Well, I can’t understand why everyone is so up in arms at ABC for playing the traitor once again. They lead the pack in aid and comfort to the enemy. If they had been around when their hero FDR was running the country in 1943 he would have had them all put in prison or shot for their treasonous acts.
Posted by: J. Pritchard | May 23, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
“What’s shocking is the US meddling in Iran.”
THAT’S a laugh! How do you think the Shah came to power?
Posted by: Quatermass | May 23, 2007, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Where were these two republican concerns about national security when Valarie Plume name was leaked. What hypocrisy!!!
Posted by: Roy | May 23, 2007, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
While I don’t like Romney and Tancredo, I think they have a point here. When I first read the story today before this artical was on the page I thought to myself that it didn’t seem right that ABC is reporting about a covert operation. I don’t know of any other country that would post national secrets and give away their plans. Plus it is putting american lives at risk!
Posted by: Eric | May 23, 2007, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
I am surprised that such a provocative covert program could be exposed in the media like this. This is considered a wartime policy, so you would think the media would show some discretion. I disagree with Bill though… the old “they will leave us alone if we leave them alone” argument has long been proven to be hogwash. There are too many unresolved animosities (namely, the CIA action that removed Mossadegh and replaced him with the Shah, which we have forgotten about but the Iranians haven’t) that continue to fuel current tensions.
Posted by: Steve | May 23, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Iran already knew what’s going on. The whole purpose of this report is part of ABC’s ongoing plan to tattle on anything this Republican administration is doing. They want so badly to bring Bush down. Bush could have saved the lives of a family of 6 from a burning home and ABC’s headline would be “Bush Allows Home of Family of Six to Burn Down”.
Posted by: RT | May 23, 2007, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Bush is a war criminal and our people deserve to know how evil and how much destruction he is causing.
Is it any wonder so much of the world hate us?
Posted by: Preston | May 23, 2007, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Bush sucks! This is outrageous. We are failing in Iraq with those poor servicement and women losing their lives because W thinks his experience and reasoning is above the generals and experts who he summarily ignores. Now he wants to attack Iran—maybe I am wrong but it smells like an agenda. I really do not think that Bush and company care about the U.S. and the democrats seem to be helping them. I AM voting for Ron Paul–the only honest man out there!
Posted by: a.copley | May 23, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
The greatest threat to this country is “the enemy within”.
At least we know who they are – all the three letter networks – who don’t give a damn about national security. Covert? what’s that?
Posted by: Chris | May 23, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
you folks are insane. get over bush and think america first. reports like this undermine the u.s …i don’t care who is president.
Posted by: Pete F. | May 23, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I still think this is all part of a master plan. In no way, whatsoever, will the CIA allow this information to be leaked if they didn’t want it to. There is a method to their madness, i’m sure. Don’t misconstrue my post as one of that of a Bush supporter. I think the Bush family ar all shady bastards with Bush Sr being the shadiest of them all. Remember, he was head of the CIA before becoming president. You don’t get to that position without stepping on a few hands.
I’m getting sidetracked here. Anyway, like i was saying, my opinion is that they intended on ABCnews letting this out. Don’t worry people. Our gov’t isn’t THAT stupid!
Posted by: FrankF | May 23, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Whomever leaked this to you guys should be tried for treason! I am sick and tired of the disgruntled people in our government leaking sensitive information to the media and the Justice Department doing nothing about it! You are all traitors to our country. No wonder we can’t win the war. You all are going to lose it for us.
Posted by: Heather | May 23, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
My guess is that the CIA has been in Iran since the day the Shah fell. Regardless of who is president, they seem to do their own thing. ABC’s probably part of a CIA misinformation campaign to get us gullible people to beleive one thing while they do something completely different.
Posted by: RT | May 23, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
The demise of American Patriotism will be the demise of America if something doesn’t change. Are people getting paid to “leak” information to the press? If so, that’s TREASON!! If the CIA can’t control their secret “intelligence” information any better than that, what good are they?? Someone needs to go to jail for leaking and someone needs to go to jail for distributing sensitive information to our enemies. And the Press as a whole needs to either become Pro-American or move to Iran and see how much “freedom” they will have!! If the American People want to continue to have a Free Country, they had better wake up and make some changes in the Government “of the people, by the people and for the people”. Washington definitely resembles the “Keystone Cops” these days!!!
Posted by: Russ | May 23, 2007, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
It becomes clear that this deliberate “leak” came directly from the CIA and/or the Whitehouse. I sense Dick Cheney’s hand pulling the strings once again.
Posted by: Michael | May 23, 2007, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
The publication of forthcoming covert military operations in a time of war is treason. Mindless, despicable treason. And, had you consciences unblistered by the bitter liberalism which infects your news organization, you would be so very, very ashamed.
Posted by: John E. Brown | May 23, 2007, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Isnt it funny that all this info was “leaked” the same day we send a huge fleet to the gulf.
Posted by: palmal5 | May 23, 2007, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
There is a difference between those things the government is hiding and those it is protecting. If only the media could learn the difference.
Posted by: Ed | May 23, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
At this point in US history, if my government engages in acts that may start another war, I want to know about it! Thanks ABC. It takes guts to shine light where there is a dark shroud of secrecy. It is far too risky and irresponsible to be conducting activities such as these when we might really paint ourselves into a corner if we sparked a war since Iran will make the Strait of Hormuz too dangerous for tanker traffic. This would cut off 40% of the worlds oil supply! We need to stop surrendering to fear and speak the truth loudly!
“Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.” George Washington
Posted by: brent | May 23, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Funny that Republicans are using this story for a photo opp.
As if the Iran didn’t think we would try to send spies into their country.
It would be incredibly dumb for Iran to think we wouldn’t.
Posted by: Getcentered | May 23, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
I want to know everything a can about what our government is doing, the White House especially.
Posted by: Getcentered | May 23, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I know alot of you think that ABC should report all this crap it’s only national security, but it was too bad that they didn’t have the information back in June of 1944. There was a bit of news that Germany probably would have liked to have. But they are making up for that loss.
Posted by: DJ | May 23, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
I was shocked to hear ABC News report this information yesterday in that the media should NOT be reporting leaked wartime strategies for all of the world to know. It is irresponsible journalism, regardless of whether or not the White House failed to request that it be “kept quiet”. Iran (and N. Korea for that fact) is very dangerous threat and should be dealt with sooner rather than later. The US is trying to do so without committing combat forces. The negative ramifications of ABC News’s actions will never be known to the average American. This is typical of the left-wing media- anything to destroy the strength and independence of this great country we live in. I can only hope the leak was part of someone in the Administration’s well-orchistrated plan.
Posted by: Sandy | May 23, 2007, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Look at all these idiots screaming “treason! treason!” because ABC reported a story the government obviously wanted made public. Where were you nitwits when REAL treason was committed by the Bush White House when Valerie Plame, a covert CIA agent’s identity was leaked to Robert Novak and reported in the news? You morons need to know what treason actually is, before you accuse ABC of it! Typical right wing, Fox News watching nitwits!
Posted by: George | May 23, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Iran’s leadership needs to go. Islamo-Fascism needs to be eliminated. Stand behind our troops or stand in front of them.
Posted by: me | May 23, 2007, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I have said it before and I will say it again, the press should just give all our secerts out the the world. this way when we fall as a country they can report on that as well. Idiots.
Posted by: Scott | May 23, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I do not know why the our nation chose to release the information or why ABC chose to publish that information, but there must be a reason. I believe president Bush is clearly informing the Iranians to return to negotiations before it is to late.
As a citizen I led a citizen group who was a benefiting party to the Fifth Republic of France dismissal of their nuclear weapons testing program at the atolls Fangataufa and Mururoa Tuamotu archipelago, South Pacific which on our part I closed on January 24, 1996. The Mururoa atoll witnessed 163 explosions while Fangataufa, 40 kilometers away, was the site of 12 of those tests. At that time the French representative contact was, Consul General Antoine Frasseto, located at the French Consulate in Honolulu, Hawaii (since closed); New Zealand Consulate, located in Los Angeles, California, Consul General Terry Baker; U.S. FBI; U.S. State Department; U.S. President; State of Hawaii, et al.
Closure statement in part read:
From research reports we know planet Earth has been coated with spent radioactive materials and its fissile, nuclear weapons testing and the inearthsatmospheric breakup of space nuclear power sources;
from all medical findings it is known nuclear radioactive nucli presents a clear danger to humans;
it is my instinctive belief, that nuclear coating, along with nuclear, waste dumping sites, laboratories, production facilities, power plants, etc., present a “clear and present” danger to our current generation, and collective, all future generations;
therefore, beyond being placed in danger, my tranquilly and its instincts are damaged, and here I do not hold France’s government as the sole responsible party.
“Through the release of atomic energy, our generation has brought into the world the most revolutionary force since prehistoric man’s discovery of fire. This basic force of the universe cannot be fitted into the outmoded concept of narrow nationalisms. For there is no secret and there is no defense; there is no possibility of control except through the aroused understanding and insistence of the peoples of the world. We scientists recognize our inescapable responsibility to carry to our fellow citizens an understanding of atomic energy and its implication for society. In this lies our only security and our only hope we believe that an informed citizenry will act for life and not for death.” [Sic,A. Einstein, January 22, 1947.]
The Fifth Republic of France did the responsible act and ended their testing early and returned to the negotiations.
Posted by: Williamwfh | May 23, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Get off your soap box Dems! Both sides in Washington have continued to fail America for some time.
I agree that this is nothing more than misinformation or a possible setup to find a mole.
Don’t pacify yourselves America and stop having a short attention span. The greater threat against us isn’t going away tomorrow, and Iran’s helping to support it.
Posted by: James | May 23, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Treason was not committed with V Plame. She was not covert at the time of the revealing, which was not done by anybody in the Bush administration. No news agency is perfectly balanced, but I choose the one that supports America vs any other that just looks to bring America down due to political beliefs.
Posted by: me | May 23, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Let’s see … when I hear the word ‘covert’, I think “secret”, “kept
under wraps” … Hmmmm
Posted by: je | May 23, 2007, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
And if Iran did that the the United States we would call it act of terrorism!
Posted by: Doyle Schroeder | May 23, 2007, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Can’t anything be left secret? I was shocked and surprised that of all the news station ABC News said anything. Are they completely insane. That information could kill more of our men in Iraq.What were they thinking or I just they were not thinking. In the old days the public were kept in the dark for a reason. Everything is not to be told. What is wrong with ABC? Are they completely stupid or what?
Now they have told our enemy what we are doing.
THIS COULD BE THE TURNING POINT NOT JUST IN IRAQ BUT EVERY WHERE WE ARE.
Posted by: Carol R Hill | May 23, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
The United States already screwed up Iraq, why screw up Iran?
Posted by: Doyle Schroeder | May 23, 2007, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
This is ridiculous! Sure the informer broke the law, but how about ABC! The leak was made by ABC! Whether you are for or against the war, citizens of the United States are still Americans, and accelerating a leak, which I’m sure was coaxed along, from one meeting to a worldwide audience is an act of treason and works against our soldiers on the ground. ABC is scoring baskets for the enemy, an enemy developing nuclear weapons, an enemy supplying weapons that kill our soldiers, an enemy that has denied the Holocaust and has knowingly committed genocide. ABC = TERRORISM!
Posted by: Ryan | May 23, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Thank you ABC for updating the American people on this reckless act by Dubya to destory another country.
People should be upset w/ bush who again use war or terror rather than diplomacy to resolve an issue.
Posted by: Doyle Schroeder | May 23, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
What’s all this about wartime strategy being given to the enemy? Since when are we at war with Iran? I guess since the Bushies refuse to try diplomacy, the only option they have left is covert operations. This is a direct result of the administration’s shoot first, ask questions later approach to international problems.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
There has never been an administration in our history that has abused the privelege of keeping something “secret” the way this one has.
Until we get some rational adults in charge in Washington, they have lost the privelege from the public to a right of secrecy.
Keep digging, ABC! It’s too little and too late to avert most of the damage these dangerous idealogues have foisted upon this country, but if it keeps these guys on their toes over the last two years they are in office, it will be worth it!
Posted by: Chuck in Ohio | May 23, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
ABC, you and other left minded libs don’t seem to understand that sometimes you have to do things that are not very nice in order for the betterment of the country. You should not have every aired this. This is why people are turning away from the drive-by media. We as a people want our interests as a COUNTRY, looked upon first. All you care about is getting ratings,reguardless of who you step on. Im sure that once we get hit by a nuke from a terror cell, you will report that Bush is to blame because of the war in Iraq. The truth is that Islamo-Fascists hate anybody that is not a true muslim. That means that both you and I are going to loose our heads if we don’t start standing behind our Pres. and troops. Im tired of the left vs right. What ever happened to the right vs wrong. What you did was very wrong.
Posted by: me | May 23, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Read the book “Blow Back” it will help people understand who convert actions by the CIA have always come back to haunt us years later.
Posted by: Doyle Schroeder | May 23, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
ABC is right on! Ron Paul is right on! All those wannabes who are for this police action, meddling to destabilize, wasting the treasury, and our men and women will with their agenda, continue driving us (US) to perdition. An open minded person.
Posted by: rv | May 23, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
To “me”…
You’re right about looking after the best interests of our country. The question is whether it’s in our interest to try to destabilize a perceived enemy (and end up with another Vietnam and Iraq), or work together to resolve problems. Us vs. Them has never worked.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
I think it is horrible that this country has people in the media that would leak a story like this. As soon as ABC read in their ‘report’ that this was a covert action… They should have never released the story. I think this is Treasonist and should be prosecuted.
Posted by: David Hittle | May 23, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Wow, how convenient that this happened on the same day as “Navy Stages Show of Force Off Iran Coast” and “US forces find Iranian money in Baghdad raid” headlines. All in the same day. Such irony.
Posted by: Dental_FlossTycoon | May 23, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
A wise press is one that doesn’t report all it knows if it puts our country in danger. Do you really think Iran is our friend? “loose lips sink ships” is one of the WWII slogans we learn in the “40′s”. President Bush is not the enemy.
Posted by: walt | May 23, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
We, along with the rest of the world, i.e UN have tried to resolve the problem, i.e sanctions. They are not working. So now we must move to the next step of tactics. Unfortunately ABC has stopped this from occuring, and potentially caused far more bloodshed by this leak. Again I say, ABC, stop trying to destroy Bush and look at what you actually doing to the greatest country in the World.
Posted by: me | May 23, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Mike,
Most Americans do understand our place in the world. Problem is, the guy that the majority of us voted for got shafted.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Well Annis, I guess if not wanting to get into another Iraq somehow equates to the downfall of the US, then yes, you’re right. I see it a bit differently. An open government means a good government, one that is of the people, by the people and for the people. But, that’s just me. I know, silly.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I was a bit shocked when I first heard the headline. The Republican hopefuls did not, however, get past the headline. If that is how they propose to make judgments upon becoming president we would be faring no better than the current inept administration. The “covert” action was nothing more than propoganda using radio, leaflets, etc. to sow discord among the populace about their Iranian government. This is not covert action in the sense of having feet on the ground in Iran—We’ve been doing that for years and years. I think we should be careful about upsetting another gevernemtn right now—-but—–I don’t think lives are endangered by this reporting.
Posted by: Jeanne | May 23, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
To the policy makers at ABC News
Bravo! You are regaining the confidence of news watcher. Admittedly, you played the capon for quite a while,
sycophants and suckers-up to the Bush agenda.
Now, about Romney and Tancredo, I shouldn’t worry. They have spent the past 6 years pandering to the Neo-cons. Where was their righteous indignation during the Plame Scandal. Perhaps the voters will terminate their mandate as well.
Posted by: max | May 23, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Relax, everybody. Iran is (as in was, has been and will always be) the single favourite nation of ours to meddle in. Far from being a surprise, this is historical fact.
Posted by: Ostaad | May 23, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
to max…
As I have already stated, if you know anything about the “Plame scandal”, then you know that it wasn’t a scandal at all. She was not in a classified position, she was working at a desk. He husband outed her. All you libs are so quick to jump on the V Plame deal. There was no scandal there, there is here. Somebody from the CIA and ABC should be arrested for treason against their own country. They are also aiding and abeding (not sure if I spelled that right) an enemy. Bush had nothing to do with V Plame. Get all the info first, then start spewing it once you got the facts right.
Posted by: me | May 23, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
This stuff started in the 1950s when Iran nationalized their oil and the CIA stepped in and installed the shah. It is the reason they hate us, it is the reason there are terrorists who seek to destroy us, and it is this pigheaded moronic approach to foreign relations that is going to kill more Americans, not ABC News.
Posted by: kbbpll | May 23, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
I wonder why they weren’t upset when a CIA agent was ratted out by someone.
Oh wait that is because it fit their agenda. My fault for thinking that they were concerned about America.
No guys we will not allow you to fool us again. The family value party of god is just a bunch of lies.
Posted by: ant | May 23, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
wow, very interesting.
Posted by: ailin | May 23, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
All you people comparing this incident to WWII have a slight problem… WWII was, by definition, a war. One that involved a true coalition of nations fighting a common enemy, one who invaded nations and killed innocent civilians. This incident involves a nation that we, as far as I know, are not at war with. We have no business performing covert destabilization actions in Iran. The American people (and indeed, the world) have every right to know what this government is doing abroad in their name.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
As they should, but I trust Ron Paul a lot more than Romney and Tancredo to do the right job. And I think Ghouliani should wake up and realize what happens when U.S. policy is akin to poking a hornets nest with a short stick(and then he should apologize to Ron Paul!!!)
=)
Posted by: ailin | May 23, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
I don’t know why ABC, NBC, CBS are broadcasting such stories when they should keep their mouths shut. Who are they working for. The other countries. People come on!!! I am so tired of them getting information and broadcasting when they shouldn’t all because of the so called story. I have a son in Iraq and I get so mad when they start in about Iraq. The need to remember they live in a great Nation and do have freedom of speech, but I think they carry it a little to far.
Deb
Posted by: debby | May 23, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
I don’t know why ABC, NBC, CBS are broadcasting such stories when they should keep their mouths shut. Who are they working for. The other countries. People come on!!! I am so tired of them getting information and broadcasting when they shouldn’t all because of the so called story. I have a son in Iraq and I get so mad when they start in about Iraq. They need to remember they live in a great Nation and do have freedom of speech, but I think they carry it a little to far. And my Son has not been there once but 3 times. He cares so deeply about this country. I wish others did///////
Deb
Posted by: debby | May 23, 2007, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Two Republican presidential candidates today criticized the ABC News report Tuesday about the CIA’s covert plan to destabilize the Iranian regime.
“I was shocked to see the ABC News report regarding covert action in Iran,” Mitt Romney said as he opened a session with reporters in Tulsa, Okla.
Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., called for an investigation into who leaked the information and “condemned” ABC News for “running the story which could jeopardize American lives.”
The ABC News story reported that President Bush had given the CIA authorization to conduct a nonlethal covert action against Iran involving propaganda, disinformation and the manipulation of Iran’s international banking transactions.
“The reporting has the potential of jeopardizing our national security. To put it quite plainly, it has the potential of affecting human life, we may never know,” Romney said.
Romney said he had called ABC News president David Westin to register his concerns.
In a statement ABC News said, “In the six days since we first contacted the CIA and the White House, at no time did they indicate that broadcasting this report would jeopardize lives or operations on the ground. ABC News management gave them the repeated opportunity to make whatever objection they wanted to regarding our report. They chose not to.”
ABC News said, “This piece was very carefully reported, and it puts solid facts on the table concerning a crucial foreign policy challenge facing the United States and the world.”
Posted by: runescapeboy | May 23, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Deb,
The question you should be asking is why your son is in Iraq in the first place? This is a war without meaning (except for those able to profit from it) that has no clear goals and no end in sight. Even if we won (and who defines “winning”?), what would that mean?
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Of course, many people here are missing the point. Iran is a totalitarian regime, and the dissident cause within its borders will be severely damaged by leaking this information. The dissidents will now lose credibility with the rest of the population, giving the regime more free reign to do whatever they want to the dissidents as “Traitors to the motherland.” The regime can now attack ALL opposition as an American CIA plot and be totally believed by fence-sitters within Iran. Shame on ABC for leaking this information and strengthening a totalitarian regime. Ever read 1984???
Posted by: Jack | May 23, 2007, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
If Rudy had any guts at all — or any respect for the American People — he would take 30 minutes or more and debate Ron Paul.
Apparently he is afraid his ideas will not hold-up if subject to intelligent analysis and debate.
But, wait…is intelligent analysis and debate now considered unpatriotic?
Posted by: HelloFromIowa | May 23, 2007, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Anything and everything the liberal media (including ABC) can say to make President Bush even remotely look bad WILL be said. Conversely, nothing good will ever be said.
They don’t really care if it will hurt the country and certainly don’t care at all if it MAY hurt the country. After all, way more important then some minor concern, like national security, is to make Bush look bad, the Republicans look bad, and get a leftist in office.
This “political gain at any cost” behavior is revolting and deserves swift and severe punishment.
Posted by: Pete | May 23, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
It is time the Democrat’s get off their lazy butts and impeach Bush and Cheney before they start WWIII.
Posted by: Navy_Chief | May 23, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
The acts described constitute acts of provocation if not acts of war against Iran. As the war powers are vested in Congress, Bush has exceeded his authority and it is he who is placing America’s national security in jeopardy by this covert action. ABC should be commended for reporting this aggression. It just might save us from being dragged into another war while Bush blames Iran for the belligerence of which he in fact is guilty.
Posted by: Richard | May 23, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I wonder if this isn’t a Rovian political stunt to try to get support for this whitehouse and an attempt to show the Democrats and the media as traitors.
Kinda like what was done with the Texas Nationalguards Letters about GW service records that were retyped with modern printers to discredit any copies of the originals if they ever showed up.
Wasn’t that ABC that took the bait on that one also????
Posted by: Roy | May 23, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
“This “political gain at any cost” behavior is revolting and deserves swift and severe punishment.”
Great – when is fat-boy Rove going to jail?
Posted by: Quatermass | May 23, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I don’t believe it is about bringing the US’s downfall, if it were, then the current policies and representatives are doing an examplary performance to their own credit.
It is not a democratic thing or a republican thing, the democrats gave W what he wanted. And the Repubicans are its strongest supporters.
Jingoists just like wrong doers always want to keep it going as well does protest exposure and the truth.
Why can’t we get along? (rhetorical).
I believe RIGHT MAKES MIGHT, NOT MIGHT-Makes-Right. It is a subtle distinction which many just don’t get.
Leaders always start wars to show the people they are their leaders. Did this president say he wanted to be a wartime president?
Posted by: rv | May 23, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Totalitarian regime? Hmmm… let’s see, a president who wasn’t elected and a vice president who is in the pockets of a few greedy corporations and who is willing to protect those corporations at the expense of American servicemen, a government that secretly spies on its citizens, and that detains them on flimsy (if any) evidence, a justice system that turns a blind eye to constitutional law and due process, and a legislature that is more interested in maintaing the status quo than in representing the will of its people. Yup, sounds like a totalitarian regime to me.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
My son is in Iraq because he is fighting for our freedom. Have you forgotten about 9-11, guess so. You sound like you have. He joined the Army in 2000, not ready for this but is fighting for you, me and all the other americans out there. Well are you american? Don’t come at me because I have a wonderful son that would fight for the country, His wife, his Daughter, His mother, and a whole lot of others out there. Maybe you should join the Armed Services. You sure sound like you need to find out what this country is all about. I won’t responed anymore because you do not know what it is like and probably never will. I bet you are not even from our great country.
Deb
Posted by: debby | May 23, 2007, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Won’t be the first time the White House has leaked sensitive material to the press which put lives in danger to gain a couple of points in the polls.
Posted by: Roy | May 23, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Deb, the issue is not your son’s patriotism and willingness to fight for his country. The issue is why his president and government are asking him to risk his life in THIS war, which has no relationship to 911.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
And by the way, I am from this country and have served proudly in the Armed Services. That, however, doesn’t mean that I should blindly follow a leader who is clearly going down the wrong path.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Let me see if I got this right: “outing” a CIA employee (not an operative–bad, revealing a secret operation–good.
Posted by: Jeff | May 23, 2007, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Rosta,
Too late. The covert operations have already begun here. Bush & Co. are already spying on you. I guess the media should have kept their mouths shut about that, too. Might have saved a few lives, or at least a few neo-con jobs.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
And let’s don’t forget the reason WHY Plame was outed… as a vendetta against her husband. Neo-cons can justify their leaking of information when it serves their needs but cry foul when it doesn’t. Hmmm…
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Who should be responsible for leaking the information? The news that prints it or the people that teel. Answer: Both. Wake up people. If this was going on during WWII we would all be speaking German.
Posted by: Dave | May 23, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Dave,
How many times do we have to say it? We are not at war with Iran. If Bush & Co. can justify the covert operations, then let them declare a war against Iran. Oh right, I forgot, there’s no justification for declaring war on Iran.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
rv — Love your notion about what constitutes a totalitarian regime, e.g., an unelected President.
Here is how I identify a totalitarian regime:
It hangs dissidents from trees.
It executes people who leave Islam and publicly convert to Christianity.
It sentences 17-year-old girls to hanging for defending themselves against rapists.
ETC.
Posted by: Jack | May 23, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Hey Navy Chief WWIII already started a long long time ago and we didnt start it… where have you been? where were you the first time they bombed the trade center? Im sure you werent running beside me!!
Posted by: Zulma | May 23, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
If former President Carter (who now has all the answers to all the worlds problems) had not taken a knife to the CIA and rendered them impotent, we probably would not be fighting any of these wars.
Posted by: Jim Phelps | May 23, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
“Great – when is fat-boy Rove going to jail?”
That was brilliant. Any other wisdom to add?
I would say more, but you’re obviously a waste of time.
Posted by: Pete | May 23, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
To restate, if it were 1944, would ABC consider a leak of information regarding Operation Fortitude a viable news story, also? If not, by what criteria would that story be deemed too sensitive, while this one is not?
Regime change originating from within Iran is perhaps the greatest source of hope that war with Iran can be averted. As such, the undermining of efforts aimed at bringing about such changes actually increase the likelihood of war, and the associated loss of human life. Which do we value more: Knowing merely for knowing’s sake, or peace?
Posted by: Chris B | May 23, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
What is shocking is the US meddling with Iran, after all they are shipping money and weapons to Iraq to kill our soldiers. We should leave them alone? Why is it okay with the jokers posting here for Iran to ship weapons and money to kill US soldiers but somehow not okay for us to meddle with their country? No one is truely that stupid, you just hate the US.
Posted by: Shane | May 23, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Chris,
I believe there are many other options for avoiding war other than regime change. In fact, didn’t we try that in Iran already? I guess from some perspectives, that was a success.
If regime change is our only option, then we’re in trouble. Eventually, all countries will have a regime that we disagree with.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Darth…. by the time people like you wake up it will be to late. I wish I could see through those rose colored glasses.
Posted by: Dave | May 23, 2007, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
yeah, let’s blame Carter (1977-1981) for cutting the heart out of the CIA (if that’s even true) but not blame Reagan (1981-1989) or daddy Bush (1989-1993) for failing to fix it, if Carter did indeed break it…
guess we can’t blame Reagan and Bush though since they only had 12 years to fix what Carter broke in 4…
the GoP…always pointing the finger elsewhere than themselves…
Posted by: Hawk | May 23, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Darth…. by the time people like you wake up it will be to late. I wish I could see through those rose colored glasses. Where do you get your info from Rosie O’Donell?
Posted by: Dave | May 23, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
In my opinion ABC news should lose their license for diseminating this news from obviously from a leaker who I would call a traitor! ABC News is facilitating the traitor’s efforts!
Posted by: Frank Lewandowski | May 23, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Duhize,
If you read the whole Kerry article, it is NOT an endorsement of our current policy. This passage says it all…
“Finally, Jim Webb said something during his campaign for the Senate that should be emblazoned on the desks of all 535 members of Congress: You do not have to occupy a country in order to fight the terrorists who are inside it. Upon that truth I believe it is possible to build what doesn’t exist today in Washington: a bipartisan strategy to deal with the long-term threat of terrorism.”
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
9/11 was an inside job.
Posted by: jeff | May 23, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Perhaps it was no accident the information was “leaked” to the media. My theory is that this leak will give the government the go ahead to clamp down on all media reports that may be viewed as negative against the government. Quite similar to what an authoritative state would do like Stalin or Hitler.
Posted by: Flex | May 23, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Oh, come on Krieger, you’re trying to reason with people who don’t think beyond the next NASCAR race, a cold Bud Light and aSunday morning waving their arms at Jeeeesuuuuus! Simple-minded Folk. Reading History, much less taking it into account would require effort and grad-e-ating Hi scoo…..
Posted by: TomBob | May 23, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
TomBob-
You should see someone about your anger management and prejudince issues.
Posted by: duhize | May 23, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
I believe what Kerry is saying is that there are other ways, a middle ground… that blindly moving forward (following the Republican logic) is not working, nor would a simplistic withdrawal of all forces (as some Democrats are suggesting).
What Bush is doing is moving forward on his own, without the guidance or consideration of all parties involved. He did that in Iraq and now he’s doing it in Iran. There is no way that his strategy (and that’s a kind word) will work.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Hawk,
I’m not convinced that authorizing a covert operation to destabilize a foreign government is “protecting” us. In fact, I would argue the opposite. It’s not the revelation that has put us at risk, but the act itself.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
The greatest threat to this country is “the enemy within”. At least we know who they are – all the letter networks – who don’t give a damn about national security. Covert? what’s that?
Posted by: Joel | May 23, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Al Qaeda’s best ally in the US is George Bush…Bush has done more to advance and recruit for their cause than the entire mainstream US media combined…
ObL sent GWB a thank you card when Bush invaded Iraq…
Posted by: Hawk | May 23, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Joel,
Guess it depends on your definition of “enemy”. The “enemy within” could just as easily be defined as an administration that is bent on achieving it’s own political and personal goals, without regard for the opinion of the world or even a majority of its own people.
Posted by: Mark_in_PDX | May 23, 2007, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
I know….:^)
Posted by: TomBob | May 23, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
The “enemy within” generally means “anybody that disagrees with the NeoCon view of the world”. Sort of like the “Activist Judge” thing…..”if you disagree with us you are a traitor to America”.
Posted by: tomBob | May 23, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
If ABC loves terrorists then George Bush should watch his back because he loves them a lot more – in fact, he created them with his boneheaded policies that only help his rich pals in the defense and oil industries get richer!
Posted by: Mett | May 23, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
ABC reporters involved in this deliberate compromise of classified national security information should be prosecuted as well as those who leaked it to him. Who says the press gets a free pass to break the law?
Posted by: Mark | May 23, 2007, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
I would like to say that I was shocked to see this “secret” revealed but nothing the mainstream media does is really a big shock anymore. The Koolaid drinkers on the left and the right are ruining this country and they’re all too busy to see that Dems and Repubs are just trying to stay in power – at any cost. I find it difficult to believe that anyone in their right mind would intentionally put people’s live in danger, yet someone leaked the information and then someone reported it. Rome is on fire folks and the barbarians are at the gate.
Posted by: fnirish | May 23, 2007, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
“Where were these two republican concerns about national security when Valarie Plume name was leaked. What hypocrisy!!!
Posted by: Roy | May 23, 2007 2:18:11 PM
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Valerie Plame abd National Security in the same sentence? Don’t make me laugh. She was a ‘former’ covert op, who had not been ‘covert’ for years, and therefore was not covered by any non-disclosure law. Plus, what exactly was she thinking when she recommended her husband to do a little spying of his own for political hay?
I say, screw freedom of the press, and nail these reported to the wall of a maximum security prison without the possibility of parole. THEY leaked a COVERT operation to the American (and therefore, the World) public, and gave the information right to our adversaries. Treason isn’t a harsh enough term to use.
Posted by: Slip | May 23, 2007, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Any media company that at least attempts to keep the people within this democracy informed deserves a pat on the back.
Just a reminder that, unfortunately, it is all too rare.
I would urge those resources to use their critical faculties as we have seen exactly how dependable is a “fair and balanced” approach.
Posted by: Giles | May 23, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Romney doesn’t know what he is talking about. Take it from someone who lived in Massachusetts and experienced his politics. Keep up the good work, ABC! The American people need to be informed about what our government is doing, and I laud your professionalism and integrity.
Posted by: Keith | May 23, 2007, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Iran already knew about this operation months ago.
Posted by: Xerexes | May 23, 2007, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
i am so mad what were you thinking and all you that thank it is ok are dumd asses. if all of you were on a covert missen would you wont some one to tell the targets that you were.i thank this is wrong in every way. it dont matter if thay did not tell you not to report it you shuld not have reported it but it is all about the scoop not the USA any thing gos inthe name of news ill bet the most fill the same way and reading all the post this has bit you in the ass and i hope you get what you deserve i will think long and hard about watching abc news after this and charly i an moor disaponted in you for reporting it sham on abc news i dont watch the outher networks so i cant say sham on them but i can on you shamon you
Posted by: jimmy brown | May 23, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Why is everyone pointing the finger only at the CIA or the White House? Ever hear of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees? They have always leaked information in an effort to undermine whoever is in Office. Republicans do it to the Dems and Dems do it to Republicans.
Posted by: ray | May 23, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
A couple of points, Ladies and Gentleman: DISINFORMATION regularly comes out of our government through authorized leakers. Seymour Hersch was reporting covert action in Iran more than a year ago. The CIA has consistently and regularly meddled in countries all over the world. This is why other countries are pretty much fed up with us. THERE IS NOTHING NEW IN THIS REPORT. Same old, same old. We have been attempting to overthrow the Iranian regime since 1979. Calm down. This is probably more government propaganda designed to continue the ridiculous partisan divide exhibited here.
Posted by: Beth | May 23, 2007, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
I support freedom of the press. Period.
Posted by: Robert Keegan | May 23, 2007, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Slip, where do you get your news? From Foxnews or Rush? Valarie Plume was involved with researching WMD’s in Iraq right up until she was outed. She was doing GW’s bidding and they screwed her career. Next time keep up with the REAL news before posting such hogwash.
Posted by: roy | May 23, 2007, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
i am amazed your abc news flash regarding the cia quote happened to be the same quote as what iran is accusing the iranian grandmother scholar of. read austin statesman 21 or 22may07 iran accuses professor of spy. these are the charges laid upon her and you’ve irresponsibly quoted cia. Are you sure your sources were the cia and not iranian intelligence agency, i mean maybe you reporter got his letters confused cia,iia.Now if she is condemned with the death sentence will abc admit that they should shut up and make sure you get a name with that source? i doubt it.
Posted by: robbie | May 23, 2007, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I wonder how many days until Romney flip-flops and says the report was a great idea.
I dont believe for a second that these objections are anything except pandering to the GOP base by attacking the media.
Romney will say anything for a vote.
Posted by: Paul Reynolds | May 23, 2007, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Thank God SOMEONE in the media is looking out for America. They have been asleep for the last 8 years it seems.
Good work ABC!
Posted by: Mark | May 23, 2007, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
ABC. You have permanently lost a viewer. Perhaps through your efforts we will wont be able to have freedom of press after we are overtaken by others. Your reporting of this go above and beyond bad choices for ‘good journalism’ you jeopardized lives and the security of our Nation. Perhaps ABC should be the ‘Ahmadinejad Broadcasting Co.’ since thats what you have done!
Posted by: An American | May 23, 2007, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Hmmmmm…I guess it is only illegal when ABC reports it. When Cheney and Rove blow a covert agent’s cover it is business as usual!
Posted by: JJ | May 23, 2007, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
for one am thankful that the press is doing their job. For a short time in the 1970′s, I had the acquaintance of a Viet Nam vet, who had been a sniper for U.S. in Saigon. He was put up in luxury hotels and would pop off any South Vietnamese official who was not toeing the American line. Needless to say, the sniper ended up with a pretty messed up head and was traveling through Europe to try to forget.
Ours is a government by the people, and we have been left out of so many decisions because we did not have proper–or any–or incorrect information from the people we elect to represent us.
There is no doubt that the greatest ally of democracy is the press–and they have let us down again and again.
So I say thanks and express gratitude to ABC for doing what they are supposed to be doing.
Posted by: nanfree | May 23, 2007, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
It’s called the FIRST AMENDMENT! We know that the Republican’s hate freedom of the press (or most types of freedom actually) but like it or not we still have the right to free speech in this country. Anyone opposed to that please pack up and move to Iran yourself, you will feel right at home under that regime!
Posted by: Free Thinker | May 23, 2007, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
It just shows how far to the left ABC has tilted and if it “bleeds it leads” they are going to air it. ABC puts more emphasis on bringing Republicans down, then fighting terror and their reporting shows it.
Posted by: Sean Flaherty | May 23, 2007, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Sean…Thank you. BTW how’s Lancaster these days?
Posted by: An American | May 23, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
If ABC reported know’s about it I bet you dollars to doughnuts that the CIA leaked the story on purpose. Stop being so naive!
Posted by: Robert | May 23, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
If we had declared war against Iran, after public debate, proof of a causus belli, and a vote by both houses, perhaps critics would have a point; but right now the people have a right to know what the government is trying to hide from the people. Moral: don’t hide it – tell the people, ask for a Declaration of war, and follow the law! No declaration, no war!
Posted by: chris inwien | May 23, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
ABC should be ashamed of themselves. As a retired naval submarine officer I am amazed at how they can put lives at risk by hiding behind freedom of the press and the mantra that the public has the right to know. I think it is irresponsible and disgusting to publish information that could put lives at risk and jeopardize our national security to grab headlines. The fact that you publicize illegally obtained classified information is pathetic. The fact that someone that our government trusted with such information betrayed that trust is even more pathetic. Your hatrid of the President does not justify your lack of patriotism and the illegal actions of your sources!
Posted by: William Frake | May 23, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
I have a lot of respect for the news network that fulfills their responsibility to society by keeping an eye on the government. Not enough of the networks have the guts to do that because they are in competition with one another, and they are afraid of criticism like this.
Thank you ABC.
Posted by: Holly | May 23, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I was more that shocked when I heard ABC report, sure glad I don’t work for the CIA and if I did I would give my 2 weeks notice. I can’t believe that this really is going to take place, I want to think that “Our Leaders” used the Media to see what Iran would do next?
Posted by: sportminer | May 23, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
The Iranian bomb is an easy problem to solve. Its a mere few hours of high quality intellectual work. Just as is Iraq.
All of this can easily be concluded successfully. If only the evil ones were thrown off the sleigh and thrown to the wolves.
It is the FASCISTS in the military secret police, military intelligence, the CIA, the FBI, NSA, DIA, et cetera, et cetera, etc. that are the problem.
Posted by: Max | May 23, 2007, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Brian Ross and ABC = Traitors to America!!! Hope you like the new world you are creating and all the brave souls that gave and will give their lives for your treachery. As a former military member your filth is not worth defending.
Posted by: SH | May 23, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
It is not the newsmedia reporting the news that is the problem. It is the filthy treasonous dogs, swine, and beasts in the secret police or what the US Govt calls the “intelligence community” that are the problem. They are the criminals that need to be brought to justice and exposed.
Posted by: Max | May 23, 2007, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
For those who have forgotten…
The “World without Zionism” conference was only a year, or so, ago in Tehran (IRAN). Please do us all a favor and use the link, read, recenter and then come back… and apologize.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2005/10/the_world_witho.html
Posted by: An American | May 23, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2005/10/
the_world_witho.html
original didn’t all fit
Posted by: An American | May 23, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Liberal Idiots with BDS. Valerie Plame was not a covert agent. She was a desk jockey and it was her lying husband Joe Wilson who outed here.
ABC should lose their FCC license. Their license is only given to them to serve the good of the people. They are not doing any good , so their license should be pulled.
I can’t wait for the next Democrat President. I am going to have so much fun.
Save the planet – Kill A LIBERAL!
Posted by: freaksloan | May 23, 2007, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Free speech may be the end of us all…
Posted by: Cedie | May 23, 2007, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Please get your facts straight.
Valerie Plame was not a covert CIA agent.
If Bill Clinton had done his job against terrorist there wold not be a war. He had Ben Ladin but didn’t pull the trigger. If you don’t beleive me read Reckless Disregard & Dereliction Of Duty, by Lt. Col. Patterson. Col. Pattersonwas asigned to cary the “football” for Pres.Clinton. He was with Clinton on Nantucket playing golf, when Sandy Burger tried unsuccessfully to get Clinton’s OK to get Ben Lardin, there was 1/2/hr window to pull off the mission. Clinton waited forty five min.oops to late.
It’s to bad ABC & the other networks are
more concerned with whether our troups are mistreating our enemy, but they don’t come close to condemning 4 missing
G.I.s and the one dead found today. The media is selling us down the drain & you liberals are too stupid to realize the fact because your so interested in hating Bush. I voted for Bush, but I don’t blindly agree with all of his polycis. It is not a matter of the 1st Amendment, it is a lack of discretion.
Posted by: RICK | May 23, 2007, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Wow, that’s a bit presumptive and even a tad ‘butch’ for Gov. Mitt Romney to call ABC News president David Westin to complain. Where is Mitt in the polls again? Uh huh. — Oh, and way to go ABC. Thank you for reporting the truth. It’s about time the American people understood that their government has been hijacked by ideologues and criminals.
Posted by: Mike | May 23, 2007, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Again… So you all don’t forget
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2005/10/
the_world_witho.html
Posted by: An American | May 23, 2007, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
To all you imbeciles that slept through History class, wake up and realize that Iran is the end-game in the War on Terror. Since 1979, they have supplied the funding, the training, the weaponry, and the “spiritual guidance” for global terrorism. Remove the mullahs from Tehran, and all of the wars in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, and Afganistan are over in a New York minute. You kill the snake by cutting off its head. And with the majority of our fighting forces, munitions and supplies surrounding Iran now, there never will be a better time to pay those bastards back for the headaches they’ve caused during the last 25 years.
Posted by: ROCKCOM | May 23, 2007, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Having read the comments, I am curiously miffed. Many of you are crying ‘treason’. Give me a break! Are you really interested in treasonous behavior? Read the oath of office the president and others in overnment have to take when they take office. “…….protect and defend the constitution……..along with the people and the country)” Has the current gang given really serious thought and work to these ends? Consider before answering: the erosion of individual rights, a justice department not at all concerned with justice, borders that our representatives refuse to protect – because they’ve been bought and paid for, a president asleep at the switch – because he really doesn’t have a clue about governing. The list goes on and on. We squabble and argue amonng ourselves when the real national enemy lives in the d.c. area.
Posted by: garyg2al | May 23, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Good reporting. It’s a funny ship that leaks from the top…
This als’s fair behavior makes the world unsafe. Ever heard that you cannot have your cake and eat it too? You cannot have safe financial transactions between countries and undermine them at the same time. Kudos to the leak. It should be open.
Torture, kidnapping, undermining world financial transactions. I am not sure who is worse? All you need is an accusation and you can do anything. I cannot blame Iran for seeking nukes. We disarmed Iraq pretty well before invading them. How about reality? Does it still count for something?
Posted by: Ron Hinchley | May 23, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Pop quiz for 911 points, what organization around 9/11/1953 removed the democratically elected leader of Iran?
The CIA.
Why was he removed?
The mortal sin of socialism he nationalized his countries most valuable resource their oil industry.
The Media is a check on government power and I applaud them for standing up against the Tyrant in chief and making him harder to start another pointless illegal war.
Posted by: Art Jannicelli | May 23, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Let me get this straight…..
ABC WILL release this information about subverting the Iranian government from within (is this REALLY a big surprise to ANYONE?) but WON’T release the names on the DC Madam’s list…….
What’s wrong with this picture????
Posted by: Maryellen Marr | May 23, 2007, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Paul is the only Republican who isn’t an “empty suit”. But the guy is the Howard Dean of the Republicans. Honesty doesn’t count when it comes to running for president. The only thing that counts is loyalty to the multinational corporations and sicko evangelical American version of the Taliban.
Posted by: Steve Fitter | May 23, 2007, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Maryellen Marr, you seem to forget that who is blocking the publication of the “Johns” is the court. And there is good reason. Just because your name is in a hooker’s black book doesn’t mean you were a John. It is a well know tactic of smart Madames to muddy the waters with false entries. Grow a brain! Unless the John was stupid enough to use a credit card or be caught on tape or otherwise be identifiable, innocent people could be harmed. But, with that said, few, if any, of these cases go to trial for the simple reason that many powerful men will be brought to task. That was the premise of the movie “Eyes Wide Shut”. So don’t go off on a tangent unless you are willing to end up some place you don’t want to be. And, by that, I mean finding yourself faced with the fact that fidelity in Washington DC is as rare as virginity.
Posted by: Steve Fitter | May 23, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
ABC should be ashamed. Anything to get ratings though, eh?
Posted by: Loren | May 23, 2007, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Not watching ABC again. Their anti-Bush hatred is now treasonous. Thanks for helping the enemy.
Posted by: rg | May 23, 2007, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Look, the ABC reporters who spread this should get the death penalty for treason. This is why I watch FOX.
Posted by: John | May 23, 2007, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
If Iran were to nuke Israel, do you think we would blame ABC for doing nothing? Hell, they’d love the ratings.
Posted by: John | May 23, 2007, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
I am happy to see that the media is at long last attempting to do the job for which it was designed, namely, to inform the American people of what is going on in their government. For too long the media have been nothing but stenographers for the Bush Administration. It is too bad the media did not report the lies of the Bush Administration during the “run up” to the unprovoked war on Iraq but merely cheerled for it. It is about time the media actually reported the news. Please don’t cower before the unfounded charges of “treason” and lack of patriotism which are being leveled against the network. There is a reason that freedom of the press is the First Amendment to the Constitution.
Posted by: Susan | May 23, 2007, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Does anyone remember a few months ago when the CIA was caught selling F-15 parts to Iran. Who cares that we were financing a terrorist regime committed to the destruction of our troops? At least we got a few bucks out of the deal! I’m sure Halliburton would be proud.
It seems like breaking that story was the patriotic thing to do. Was abc congratulated? Not to my knowledge. Why didn’t you scream “treason” at the CIA? I believe selling weapons to our enemies to be quite a serious offense. Perhaps you do not share my twisted liberal logic.
Posted by: Allen | May 23, 2007, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
To all those who support this “covert” war activity and think it should not be reported: WAKE UP! You are agreeing to a path of perpetual war under the neocon doctrine of pre-emptive war, based on the fear that an enemy is out to get you (now Muslims extremists). I am so sick of the paranoid, lunatic fringe in this contry. What we need is less war, more dialogue. We CAN get along with Iran, but we are messing around in THEIR part of the world. Christians get off your war horses and start acting like the Jesus you praise. Don’t support pre-emptive war! Don’t get caught in Lucifers trap. I also think it’s great that any secret war activities be known. It’s about time we had any transparency with the Bush cabal. The public deserves to know what our leaders, who represent all us citizens, are getting us into as far as any war is concerned. It exposes what harmful things we are doing to others in order to gain advantage. We are not the good guys all the time, especially now. We need to expose all efforts being made by the neocon faction of our country to stop the madness of perpetual war (i.e death and destruction of humanity). Any body argue against that?
Posted by: Jeff B | May 24, 2007, 12:03 am 12:03 am
To all the moronic liberals who keep throwing out Valerie Plame. First, she was not covert and therefore not covered as defined in the Identities Protection Act. Second, it was Richard Armitage who outed her. Not a neocon or even prowar. He was a state dept bureaucrat who was against the war. Try to learn your facts before you make idiots or yourselves. You are an embarrassment to the country.
Next, you are basically saying it is ok for ABC to report on a covert program since as you believe Bush outed a “Covert agent” which to you is the worst thing in the world. So how do you reconcile those two facts??? Outing someone who wasn’t covert is the end of the world, but outing a WHOLE PROGRAM is ok. You are too stupid for words!!!!!
Posted by: ksfortier | May 24, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am
ksfortier – Sheeesh… Quit the misinformation. She was involved in the researching the WMD programs of Iraq. She took “covert” trips out of the country for her job. When you’re covert, you can’t say your covert…. it’s a catch 22. So for the first few month this was heating up, that couldn’t be said. Apparently that’s when you stopped watching the news concerning this story. Because it was finally released “THAT SHE WAS A COVERT AGENT!!!”…. Now get your facts straight!!!
Posted by: Roy | May 24, 2007, 12:30 am 12:30 am
I didn’t hear these two yelling when Bush, Chaney, committed Treason by leaking the name of CIA agent Valarie Plume.. It seems that our “American Taliban” and it’s followers only want one news outlet for our country, run by people like Mush Lamebrian.. Let them move to China, or North Korea.. there all hypocrites!!
Posted by: J.Murphy | May 24, 2007, 12:32 am 12:32 am
You Media people are the Terrorists’ greatest weapon. For you, National Security takes a back seat to “getting out the story”…especially if it is in any way, anti-Bush. Hopefully, your ignorance will not cause innocent lives to be lost…But then, even that would be a “story” for you. You people have the morality of Jello.
Posted by: Gary | May 24, 2007, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Refering back to a recent story I’m glad they are tracking your calls. With great freedom comes great responsibility. I wish I remember who said that. I am no fan of President Bush. He started the wrong war at the wrong time in Iraq because he mislead congress, the american people, and the UN. But guess what people – we are there. Pandora’s box has been opened. Running away from it now will only make things worse. We need to remain strong and vigilant to protect what has become threatened because of this war. All nations have used covert ops in the past to control their enemies – sometimes successfully sometimes not. We need to be mindful of where we have been, but we need to be much more aware of where we are going. This is a prime example of how our press abuses the freedoms we have just so they can sell a story and make money. It is more than tresaonous. I hope all the Judases involved in this leak pay a fair price for the blood money/power they have recieved for revealing this effort to protect our national security. We would be fools and digging our own graves if we go strictly with dialogue. Dialogue is good, but if we can’t trust americans (the white house and the press) how in the world can we trust our enemies. Bush opened Pandora’s box. Are we going to continue to chastize him for it, and expose ourselves to our enemies or help him close it?
Posted by: Mike Mallimo | May 24, 2007, 12:40 am 12:40 am
“ksfortier” you are clearly too stupid for words. You are twisting the meaning of “covert” to support your argument, and relying on a technicality to justify outing a field agent, by a vindictive, sociopathic VP, which is clearly a treasonous act. You should be able to see and agree how Un-American that really is. You seem to be more concerned about maintaining the war effort, instead of what direction our country is actually heading.
Posted by: Jeff B | May 24, 2007, 12:43 am 12:43 am
I think Brian Ross and Charles Gibson should move to Iran.. Their report on the covert action by our government seemd to be told with glee. ABC & most all of the 3 leter media outlets including CNN are treasonous. These disgusting journalists are nothing more than propaganists for the enemy. Now that Im on the topic.. send Rosie O. & Jimmy Carter over there with them. It is SO obvious these media types are full flegged partners with the democrat party. It is not surprising that more & more educated Americans get their news from conservative talk radio & FOX News. ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/CNN are loosers!
Posted by: Jim Scerra | May 24, 2007, 12:50 am 12:50 am
I am absolutely amazed to see how far the mainstream media will go to try to improve their dwindling ratings and try to do anything to make our president look bad. We are at war. Whose side are they on? How many American lives could have been saved if they truly worked for our cause instead of the enemies? How can this latest move by ABC NOT be treason?
Posted by: Steve M. | May 24, 2007, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Once again, we see more undercover or covert operations, run on the nightly news. Super sensitive information made out as nightly news. How does ABC or anyone in the media, expect us to win against any form of terrorism? In the past, this type of covert operations has been used time and time again successfully when the media keeps it mouth shut!! However, since it is the Bush administration & not the Clinton’s, it’s ok to make him look like a fool in front of ALL OF OUR ENEMIES! Just how stupid are you people at ABC. Maybe you should go back to learning your ABCs about what’s right & wrong to report as news!! You keep giving the other side room to avoid being caught or having any kind of success with overthrowing a brutal regime! Then you go and blame Bush again, for not catching the terrorists when he had the chance. THE CHANCE?!? Thanks to ABCs report, any chance of overthrowing the current dangerous regime growing in Iran, is gone! Thank you ABC news. You’re the reason why many people in this country stopped watching their local news broadcasts and are sticking to cable news, such as Fox! At least they know when and what to report without giving out our nation’s secrets!!!
Posted by: The Truth | May 24, 2007, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Are you guys for real?? You dare compare Wilson/Plame scam to the treasonous publication of SECRETS on Iran? Plame and Wilson were and are two proven liars. Plame was no longer a “covert” agent; in fact, lost her “undercover” status going way back to when she married Ambassador Wilson. Her position became too open and visible and she was reassigned as a WMD analyst to the states. Yes, Plame was a busy little traitor, using the CIA to discredit the administration and its policies from within. All with the guidance of the Democrat Party, whose strategy meetings she and husband attended along with the help of the NYT, who they also had meetings with..prior to publishing Wilson’s op-ed piece.
Acting Attorney General Comey appointed his long-time buddy, Patrick Fitzgerald, as special prosecutor. Even though Armitage had quickly gone to them and admitted he shared the Plame information, either way. they proceeded with the case. WHY? A chance for Fitzgerald to make a name for himself, publicity and ??? An honest man would have immediately exposed Armitage and not proceeded with wasting taxpayers’ money.
But participants in this blog still prefer believing TWO PROVEN LIARS, Plame and Wilson, as per the non-partisan Senate Intelligence Report, and ABC, whose agenda has always been to demonize any conservative administration. But releasing UNITED STATES SECRETS is an open ACT OF TREASON and every effort should be waged against ABC, the informant, to prosecute. No, Mr. & Mrs. Liberal Blogger, this is not a 2-bit Plame scheme devised by the DNC, and played up as a “scandal” for three years, but a despicable act against the U.S.
The aiding and abetting the enemy under the cover of Freedom of Press and Freedom of Speech is despicable as is the partisan excuse-making for such actions!
Posted by: maw | May 24, 2007, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Reading all of these comments reminds me of a wonderful essay written by a true conservative, prior to the present date. It is a dissection of “pseudoconservatism,” and I pray that visitors from FreeRepublic, LGF, Daily Kos, etc. will read and share this essay–even if one does not agree with the ideas presented.
http://d-n-i.net/fcs/comments/c507.htm
Posted by: ron paul has a posse | May 24, 2007, 1:21 am 1:21 am
It should be perfectly obvious that this is an Administration leak. ABC gave them every opportunity to quash it, and the Bushies didn’t. Therefore, it is designed to scare us into voting Republican, since that’s the only way people can be moved from the Democrats’ saner programs.
Posted by: PanSkeptic | May 24, 2007, 1:35 am 1:35 am
WHAT RIGHT DOES AMERIKA HAVE ANYWAY-TO BE INTIMIDATING IRAN AS IT IS DOING? WOULD THE SHEEPLE OF AMERIKA VOICE CONCERN IF RUSSIA CHINA AND FRANCE ENCIRCLED IT?
Posted by: mike | May 24, 2007, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Valerie Plame had not been a covert agent for years! Now she’s a rich celebrity. Go figure!
Posted by: Pat Zahn | May 24, 2007, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Re: comparisons to WWII.
WWII was another war the US provoked that had horrible consequences
1) The US had an embargo on Japan. Why? The US government didn’t like the war Japan was waging against China and did not want Japan to have hegemonic power in the East. Result of the War? Aid to China went straight to the communists, who took over China, supported communist rebellions in SE Asia, and killed 50 million of their own people.
2) The US joined the war in Europe in order to stop facsism. Result? Instead of Germany and the USSR simply bleeding themselves to death (it is laughable to imgaine that Germany would be able to control a nation as massive as the USSR) the US supported the USSR, which used the war materials and funds to cast a communist shadow across all the people of Eastern Europe for 45 more years. Hitler may have killed 6 million people; but Stalin killed 25 million of his own.
Just goes to show that there are NO wars that the US has ever gotten involved in that were of ANY benefit to either us or the world.
The US could have helped a lot by letting Jews who sought asylum come to the US. But they were turned away and sent to concentration camps. The one thing the US government COULD have done, it didn’t. Bravo jerks.
Posted by: Vince | May 24, 2007, 2:13 am 2:13 am
BTW bravo ABC. If people don’t want to be put in this danger, they shouldn’t join the CIA. I’m sick of the actions of these people putting ME in danger of retribution.
Posted by: Vince | May 24, 2007, 2:21 am 2:21 am
You’re an idiot, Vince.
By your logic, if cops don’t want to get shot at they shouldn’t want to be cops, not to mention the very people you’re trying to protect stab you in the back for a little publicity.
America is going down the tubes because of a lack of morals – especially in the media – and a lack of common sense as exhibited by Vince here.
Posted by: Mike | May 24, 2007, 3:03 am 3:03 am
its shows what great geniouses we have running our country, not only did they start a war, which they blamed it on wmd and iraq involvement in 9-11, this administration is one of the worst foreign and domestic administration in history, please u bush lovers, tell me one good thing that this president has done for our country, what great laws or decisions he has made to make our country better, besides high gas prices. cant wait till this clown is out of office. republicans blame him for loosing majority in congress, and u will loose more.
Posted by: juan carlos | May 24, 2007, 3:11 am 3:11 am
Thanks ABC for finally having the guts to do some real reporting. It is exactly these kind of operations, against a country we are not at war with, that destroys are respect around the world and gets into trouble in the long run. The report cannot be treasonous, because we are not at war, and even if you tie it to Iraq, there was no formal declaration of war there also. It can only be treasonous if we are contitutionally at war which we are not. Kudos to ABC.
Posted by: Stephen Galle | May 24, 2007, 3:59 am 3:59 am
This covert policy should be scruitinised not the news article about it.
America’s foreign policy has cost thousands of American lives and the lives of over a Million non Americans, A true patriot would want to reign in this administration and its crazy foreign policy.
Thank God some news channales are still prepared to raise their heads over the paripits and be couunted. Keep up the good work ABC News.
Posted by: kal | May 24, 2007, 4:34 am 4:34 am
Who is the terrorist here???
Posted by: SyedAbdillah | May 24, 2007, 4:35 am 4:35 am
I am glad that ABC aired this story. It is about time the public is made aware of the impending war with Iran. The goal has been to attack Iran all along. It is very convenient that Bush knows he is going to get his 100 Billion war spending and increase the number of troops in Iraq. Now he will have the resources needed to invade Iran. Also Bush just signed into law a piece of legislation on may 9th which gives him a dictatorship in the event of catastrophe. We need to impeach this war mongering president as soon as possible before he starts world war 3! Ron Paul was correct in his statement to Rudy at the debates about why the middle East hates America. This will only cause more problems and more resentment toward America and you can bet there will be much more blowback to come in the future.
Posted by: Breezeauctions | May 24, 2007, 6:12 am 6:12 am
For those of us who rely a lot less on the corporate-military-congressional-complex, war-machine-oriented media for news, it’s been no secret for quite awhile about these ‘covert’ operations in Iran by Bush & Co. ABC probly got the nudge to publish this CIA-type press release propaganda with its really obvious timing and dutifully followed their orders. What else is new?
I hope this republic lasts long enough to once again install sane people into high public office. These insane ‘leaders’ keep on increasing our enemies all over the world.
Posted by: Wholly Rogue Emperor | May 24, 2007, 6:24 am 6:24 am
Only criminals have something to hide. Let’s declassify all government documents so the American people can truly know what kind of governmental errors our tax dollars are funding. Yes, that’s right, getting into a third war in the middle east will be an error.
Vote RON PAUL 2008.
Posted by: Sean | May 24, 2007, 6:52 am 6:52 am
“running the story which could jeopardize American lives.”-Tom Canredo
What about the innocent Iranians who will be killed in the “black ops” ? presumably the US is backing terror groups to destabalize the Iranian regime, much like they did in 53 when the over threw Mossedeq, are they not also human Mr Tancredo ? shouldn’t the American people know what there own government is doing Mr Tancredo ? in there name ……It’s time to shine a light on all these secrets, because then maybe people will undertsand why America is being attacked after the next attack, and it has nothing to do with “they hate our freedoms” , they hate us because of precisley this time of thing.
Posted by: andy | May 24, 2007, 7:52 am 7:52 am
ABC was right to expose this ‘covert program’. The American people are sick of these calamitous and pointless wars, which seem only to serve Israel’s perverted ambitions. There is nothing legitimate in our meddling in Iran, since especially Iran has broken no laws and is entitled, according to the NPT treaty, to enrichment technology.
Doubtless, most American’s are wondering: wouldn’t have been far cheaper to simply pay the Iraqis a fair price for their oil, rather than try to steal it–and at such horrendous cost to our republic and the terrible loss of life in Iraq?
Posted by: Matt | May 24, 2007, 7:58 am 7:58 am
I was shocked Iran doesn’t consider this an act of war.
If the tables were turned, the US would certainly consider it an act of war.
Posted by: Jim | May 24, 2007, 8:18 am 8:18 am
Hello
I am a brit and would like to say ”What is the fuss about.” Firstly America isnt doing anything new that Iran doesnt know but what surprises me is how most Americans get so wired up about something the government wants you to get wired up about. strange on that day the big news should of been about those new 17000 soldiers and fleets sent to persian waters but no obviously you guys are screaming about leaks, patriotism stuff. America has always interferred in countries that do now obey the new world order and i will say Iran is a better country then most muslim countries.Why doesnt America spend more time talking about the dictators in saudia arabia, Jordan, Egypt, etc who have the worst record and no democracy? May be if your media showed good things from Iran rather let you right wing leaders,Aipac, and the media hijack America and fool you twice. Guys i know most of you are patriots but let the right be right and wrong be wrong.
Posted by: zahir | May 24, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am
What is sick and socking is the fact that all of you stand up for nations with a known history of little or no civil freedoms; ones that you are using freely now. You may disagree with the war and the handle of it but so too did the congress think Hitler was no threat to the world. Do you as well think that the holocaust did not exist; visit those concentration camps then talk. We as freedom loving people can not let anything like that happen again. Would you rather have Iran become a nuclear power; check out who is running the country, nothing more than a terrorist himself and do not tell me, he was not one of those who held American hostages, just look a the pictures. The true problem lies in why this country is so great; we let each and everyone have their own opinions and speak them freely, if only the rest of the world had that freedom; wait that’s what we are trying to do. I can guarantee that most of you writing here have never, and probably would never server this country; stand up and put a uniform on earn the right to speak as you do, back up your conviction, stop being a living room leader. It is very easy to judge when you have everything, have you been to Iraq and spoke with the people, I am sure you have not. It is funning you look in such detail the administration, never trusting what it says but you can believe the media and what it says with no skepticism, go speak to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, enter the lions den then judge. I do believe in our freedoms, I just believe they come with a responsibility; before you take such a strong stance (your constitutional right) make very sure you have all the true facts, tangible facts not just news print or network sensationalism.
Posted by: Wrangler | May 24, 2007, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Thanks to ABC for finally publishing what, as pointed out by several other posters here, the rest of us have known for some time. Thanks to Romney and the other guy for voicing their opinions about ABC’s running of the story. Another reason to put them on the bench and vote for the only decent candidate in the field, the Honorable Ron Paul. He’s the only candidate from ANY party who actually deserves the ‘Honorable’ appellation.
Posted by: Advocate4Liberty | May 24, 2007, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Unbelievable – Liberal’s personality conflict with Bush blinds them to reality. Who cares if the rest of the world hates us – Does Europe all of a sudden have all the answers? Is that what is most important? I just wish liberals could be as “objective” about their own opinions as they claim to be about everyone else’s opinions. It’s the liberal way or the highway. How is that objective?
Posted by: sh | May 24, 2007, 8:57 am 8:57 am
I guess Iraq was behind 911 if we take What Ron Paul said,” Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years.” I guess we can say that this all goes back to Clinton and the countless times he bombed Iraq, all this made Iran very agree at the US because they have such an affection to Iraq. Please if you disagree give me a course of action, not “we have a plan”, how would you change what is going on, remember we are considered a Christian Nation (strike 1), we have to look a National Security, and we have to remember to look out for what is best for the American people. As stated before, this is a great nation with great people, it is so easy to cast stones and argue it is much hard to work together; our government has lasted over 200 years because we entrust of elected officials to do what is best for us, not them. When was the last time you saw a congressman or senator go back to their constitutes and find out what they want, they’re all too busy flying all over the country and world, doing what they want on our dime! True reform starts with all of you but you first need a concrete course of action the word “plan” means nothing. I think when you start thinking about it, all of you will sit back and blog again; that’s too much like work get it all for nothing, got to keep our standards do we.
Posted by: Wrangler | May 24, 2007, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Roy, You are so wrong it is laughable. Early on we learned that she had NOT been out of the states since she got married and had a family which was over 6 years prior to the “outing”. That makes her NOT COVERT by the Act. This is NOT disputed by ANYONE. Learn your facts you idiot. Left wing BS does not make it true. But just keep on saying it to make yourself feel better.
You didn’t address the main point though about it being the end of the world to expose a single person, but ok to expose a WHOLE program. Once again we see all the left has is Bush hatred and no common sense at all.
Posted by: ksfortier | May 24, 2007, 9:23 am 9:23 am
You know, if Bush & Co really loved his empire he wouldn’t be making it fall so soon …
wouldn’t be multiplying our enemies everywhere all the time …
but, as Gore Vidal always sez, that’s what empires always do anyway … they fall
We Americans need to cultivate a different, much more human approach to being part of and sharing this world before we earn the consequence of not being any part of it at all; know what I mean?
and we shouldn’t empower such twisted psychos with dangerous WMDs etc, because that’s just asking for it — sort of like: ‘Bring it on.’ or whatever the brain-damaged Resident managed to try to articulate while strutting about like the sorry misguided fool he is … and that’s not saying much for the poor fools still following him …
this doesn’t sound very kind, but these ‘war games’ are not really amusing either, esply when so many real people are getting wasted, vaporized, blown and burned up … these things have consequences;
but don’t worry: if you don’t get it yet, there’s always judgment day!
Posted by: Wholly Rogue Emperor | May 24, 2007, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Jeff B – You are obviously off your meds. Read the news stories. Cheney did not out her!!! Armitage did you moron. Again, please tell me how your psychotic rage over Plame justifies ABC outing this covert program.
BTW, Fitzgerald knew from day one who “outed” Plame and continued a partisan scandal for no reason as he knew there was no underlying crime committed. Wilson and Plame lied all the way. The senate report and the British report flatly disputed what they said.
Now please go back on your meds so the country can get back to some semblance of civility.
Posted by: ksfortier | May 24, 2007, 9:29 am 9:29 am
The “WAR ON TERROR” is a smokescreen to destabilize the entire Middle East region, of which Iran is the key. We now have them surrounded and infiltrated. It was imparitive to move this along quickly before Iran gained the capability to defend itself from attack with a better air force and nuclear wepons. Before we moved into the region we had a few handfulls of wackos. We could have solved that problem by building up the FBI and local police forces and making sure they had real and timly communication and cooperation. This would have saved lives, costed less and shown the world we could take care of ourselves. Instead we died, we killed, we made oil & defence contractor execs rich and we made more enemies. Oh and don’t forget we promised Kim Jong Ill money to keep his yap shut too. Okay now back to my Freedom Fries.
Posted by: skidog | May 24, 2007, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Yankees go home & take your phoney war on terror & your phoney bankrupted currency with you. Why is it you folks can’t recognise a government banking & business protection racket propping up your phoney corrupt stinky dead-duck dollar until you get squeezed in a printing press. You are morally spiritually and physically spinning in a vortex of bankrupcy of your own making and continually distract yourselves with trivia. Fubar leaders with Fubar dollars
Posted by: zen ba | May 24, 2007, 9:38 am 9:38 am
I am surprised to see so many people attacking ABC for publishing this story. There is little doubt that the government Iran is already aware of what we are doing and there was nothing in the report that would put individuals at risk. The report simply, in a very general way, let us the public know what our government is doing. I think they should be commended for that rather than condemned.
Posted by: jv | May 24, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am
How many of these comments are real? How many are left by actual citizens on their own time? How many were written by contractors from astroturf organizations with agendas – specifically right-wing agendas to intimidate ABC news?
I don’t believe all the comments about treason come from real people. Real people aren’t that stupid.
In a statement ABC News said, “In the six days since we first contacted the CIA and the White House, at no time did they indicate that broadcasting this report would jeopardize lives or operations on the ground. ABC News management gave them the repeated opportunity to make whatever objection they wanted to regarding our report. They chose not to.”
This sentence makes it transparently obvious that this was a deliberate leak. Although he didn’t do it personally, George Bush effectively authorized this leak. I hope the Secret Service drags the treason contractors out of their chairs to remind them that death threats are not legal.
Posted by: glasnost | May 24, 2007, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Why call everyone stupid; ya President Bush authorized the leak. Let me guess this is a coordinated effort between the President and ABC, to conduct a false media leak to cover up everything else. I guess this falls under, “hide the tree in the forest”.
Posted by: Wrangler | May 24, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Ahmed:
It is nothing like a policeman since Japan was doing nothing to hurt Americans when the embargo was created.
It’s more like the police going over to your neighbors, shooting a couple and framing you, and then going to you and saying you need their protection.
Why does American blood need to be spilled to protect these people all over the world. Honest relations and trade with all…entangling alliances with none.
Posted by: VinceI | May 24, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Till i read the majority of the posts above, i didn´t realize how stupid and ignorants are the American people…what secret and what leak ??…you stupid and greedy people are the only ones who dont know nothing about whats going on on the world…wake up!! i am sure that you know that the world is round…dont you ??
Posted by: European | May 24, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am
zahir,
The Halocaust did exist. The US ould have aleviated it far more than the war did (they got their after the jews were dead) by simply allowing them to enter the country. And yes, the US government blew that too.
And no, Germany was not a threat to the US, and more than Iraq was.
Posted by: Vince | May 24, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am
I think it was good the ABC reported this. Got it a bit more into the Mainstream consciousness that this type of CIA stuff does happen. The fact that it is even more public now because of the GOP candidates quite frankly I see also as an awesome thing. Spill all the beans on it. C’mon!
Posted by: Sleep Tactics | May 24, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am
About all the attacks on ABC as being traitors/treasonous: COINTELPRO anyone?
Posted by: Sleep Tactics | May 24, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am
How are American lives at risk by admitting to a campaign of propaganda, disinformation and manipulation? Seems a bit far reached.
That said, the US is more often inside a country covertly militarily or through proxy before it makes its war officially started. If you read the reporting by Seymour Hersch at the New Yorker it’s been covered. We’re using terrorists in there already.
Ron Paul is right.
Posted by: Lady | May 24, 2007, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
@zen ba
“Yankees go home & take your phoney war on terror & your phoney bankrupted currency with you. … You are morally spiritually and physically spinning in a vortex of bankrupcy of your own making and continually distract yourselves with trivia”.
That’s called ‘holding nothing back’ and ‘hitting the nail on the head’ :)
Yes, the US is on the verge of economic collapse. Foreign holders of T-bills and paper money reserves are slowly getting a clue and are devising strategies designed to limit their losses. Saddam Hussein had the bright idea of switching oil transactions from the dollar to the euro in 2002. It was a big gamble at the time, but it turned out to to be a smooth move, financially speaking. Precisely because the country possessed no WMDs, and a weakened army, it could be pulverized. Mission Accomplished.
Iran’s intention to establish an Oil Bourse in order to trade in a variety of currencies has put the country into ‘Most dreaded’ status [ie, axis of evil]. The US is still cautious about attacking Iran militarily, hence the resort to subterfuge CIA operations and military histrionics. Iran knows as well as anyone who is reasonably well read that the US is engaged in a last-ditch effort to save dollar hegemony and, ultimately, the country’s real capacity to dominate.
Russia could be mentioned, too, which is diversifying its hydrocarbon currency exchange away from the US dollar. Russia is too big a morcel for the US to take on just now, but both Russia and China are being surrounded by US military bases … just in case [US citizens are virtually ATM machines].
With a few notable exceptions, the people who have posted in this thread need to do more than read what their MS media feeds them. Read a bit of history. Do away with your blind trust of government.
The target for this “leaked” information by ABCnews is the American public. It’s not by chance that it has been published just now.
Posted by: american in paris | May 24, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Where is it written in the constitution exactly what the press can or cannot inform the public about?
Posted by: Zach | May 24, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
“The demise of American Patriotism will be the demise of America if something doesn’t change.
Posted by: Russ | May 23, 2007 2:35:28 PM
You’re right, true patriotism is in short supply in this country. Ron Paul is our only real hope. Here is his essay on patriotism.
http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=11015
Posted by: Ed | May 24, 2007, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
If Bush didn`t object to the stoory, why are Romney and Tancredo? Obviously becdause it is imposssible for a Republican to avoid taking a cheap shot against the “Liberal Media.” Is Romney as shocked about Bush`s repeated declassification of secrets when it serves his political agenda? “The reporting has the potential of jeopardizing our national security. To put it quite plainly, it has the potential of affecting human life, we may never know.” Meaning what? Guess he is saying that even though Bush doesn`t know how it negatively affects national security (and thus did not object to ABC`s report), it might potentially affect human life, though we may never know if it does. Is this guy scared of the truth or what?
Posted by: A Viet Nam Vet | May 24, 2007, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
ABC news should be ashamed of themselves. Those who decided to air such a sensitive story should be fired immediately. The Bush administration needs to find the leak and prosecute to the fullest extent.
RE: comparing Valerie Plame to this situation: She was a desk jockey who has obviously made the best out of the situation monetarily. That was all for show – this is serious.
Posted by: Chanci | May 24, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Of course it’s serious, Chanci.
Propaganda is very serious *business*.
Like any good corporation, corporate-run Government requires return on their investments in media.
Posted by: american in paris | May 24, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Thank you ABC for revealing the truth! Big ups to Ron Paul, the only principled man in Government.
Posted by: i'm afraid of americans | May 24, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
i am very proud to have my post removed by abc, let me say again. if and when we are hit again i hope the traitors at aabc(anti amrican broadcasting co.) are the first to die. death IS what they ,the islamists, want for us. all of us. even all the commies in the democrap party. remember, abc, no matter how much you help the enemy, you are still their target as much as the rest of us.
Posted by: coyote | May 24, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
coyote, what’s your definition of ‘enemy’. Who are the US’s enemies and why should we view them as such.
Posted by: american in paris | May 24, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Secrets??? GOP secrets lost US this war in Iraq… Keep telling them ABC. We appreciate it!
Posted by: Bill Peterson | May 24, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Bush/Cheney, Inc. = 4th Reich
Posted by: Hawk | May 24, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I think the real terrorists have blue eyes, bibles and suvs, not Korans and donkee carts!
Gimmee a break war on terrorism is a war to make $
Posted by: artman | May 24, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Time for some sting operations and then very long jail sentences for being traitors to their country. I have people in Iraq and can see no difference in Jihadists and people at ABC or anywhere else that gives aid and comfort to my/our enemies. You and your fellow travelers the 5th columnists are walking a fine line and will get a response that you won’t like one of these days.
Posted by: Ronald Nord | May 24, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
When will one of these liberal media organizations ever disclose some secret operations of a terrorist cell, or another enemy of the United States? It seems that they limit their exposes to covert programs of the United States that are designed to protect our national security.
Then these traitors in the media wonder why real Americans “question their patriotism”?
We question their patriotism because patriotic Americans don’t try to sabotage their own country’s national security initiatives. It’s pathetically obvious that these liberals in the media don’t consider themselves to owe any duty of loyalty to our great country.
Posted by: Proud American | May 24, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Republicans don’t just want to start Armageddon. They’re campaigning on it.
Posted by: Thomas McCullock | May 24, 2007, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I applaud ABC’s “treason”. Whether we are in times of war or peace, people need to keep abreast of what’s going on around the world because WE decide what our country does in our name and we can’t do that when our media is weak and subserviant as it has been for several years now.
Anyone who thinks that we have absolutely no responsibility for the blowback of our morally bankrupt foreign policy needs to have their head examined.
All of our current problems with the middle east exist because we spent decades there manipulating sovereign nations supposedly either to our own economic advantage or Israel’s military advantage. It seems these days that the majority of the foreign dictators and terrorists in circulation were at one time in our employ, and now we’re just going around cleaning up messes that groups like the CIA created decades ago – yet now they want to run off creating more!
As for the “treason” issue, I think that when leveling those charges we should look no further than the White House, the members of which have ignored the demands of the country and congress for long enough, and have shown complete disregard for the CIA’s secrecy when it was to their political advantage to do so. This administration is disgustingly corrupt and incompetent and anyone calling ABC’s actions “treasonous” in light of the outright shredding of core American values by our fascist regime will find their ideas more acceptable in communist China or perhaps one of the plethora of fascist states. I suggest they choose one and relocate immediately so people who love our Constitutional Republic and believe in freedom of the press will still have a place to call home.
I’m voting for Ron Paul. Peace and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.
Posted by: jjacksonRIAB | May 24, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
SERIOUSLY.
SY Hersh have made the point several times, just as Scott Ritter has. Here’s Hersh piece:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh
Support AQ in Iran? Way to go!
Ritter speeches (learn something):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZrWIVR69s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1sK-2LwMPU
Posted by: 1984 | May 24, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Oh my! *NonZionist* I , I , I think I *love* you!~ You are really good, and I like what you write too! heeheee smart, educated, well-informed, honest, articulate … golly!
Being the Wholly Rogue Emperor, I hereby present you, NonZionist, with America and all its more or less united states … heeeheeee I think you can do something with her, and thanks sweetie …
American In Paris, you’re pretty cute too! Clever, sophisticated and wised up for sure! Great perspective. Is France still to your liking? Be my guest, naturally …
some other contributors were also worth reading.
Dare we hope? the sun breaks through the thick clouds of polluted deceptions? even here? or there in DCt (deceit city)
tata
Posted by: Wholly Rogue Emperor | May 24, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Interesting all of the comments on “traitors” and “treason”. Apparently the people throwing those words around don’t even know the definition of treason. Its in the US Constitution, its very specific, it doesn’t apply here. Of course to know that would require reading skills from the loud-mouth contingent on this blog post. Sheesh. Definitely a NoeCon thing this…..
Posted by: tomBob | May 24, 2007, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
“The publication of forthcoming covert military operations in a time of war is treason. Mindless, despicable treason. And, had you consciences unblistered by the bitter liberalism which infects your news organization, you would be so very, very ashamed.”
We are not at war with Iran, you moron! If anything, the USA should be condemned for an act of war such as this. The only traitors are you, “flag waivers” Attacking Iran in not in the interest of this country. How would you like it if the Cubans or the Iranians do the same in USA soil? How would you feel if you see a flotilla of Chinese war ships a few miles from the East or West coast?
Go and recite the pledge of alliance or go wrap yourself with the flag, and stop wasting our time, stupid!
Posted by: Santo Fortino | May 24, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Ron Paul for president!!!
Posted by: mike honcho | May 24, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
It’s evident Muslims are wrong to dislike you because we meddle in their affairs. They dislike us because our democracy is such a resounding success, and we have elected our dear leader, President Bush, showing us how to spread freedom and set minds on fire. We do have an endless supply of cash to pay for our good intentions – we just borrow it from China and Japan. So why not borrow now, and let our children pay later? Playing globocop is so much fun…
Posted by: Fernando Leza | May 24, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
War? What War? All we have are a buch of diehard Arab nationalist trying to slowly pick us off til we lose patience and leave ther respective countries. Moajor military operations, with the exception of Fallujah, ended in 2003. We are getting picked off by roadside bombs and maybe an occasional sniper or suicide bomber, but nothing that resembles a real war. The CIA wanted the story leaked. It is an intimidation tactic aimed at Tehran. When Fox News after 9/11 briefly ran a story of all those Israelis that were questioned by the FBI, the White House had them pull it almost immediately. IF the govt didn’t want the sotry posted post 9/11, it wouldn’t get posted or aired.
Posted by: Rob | May 24, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
The interesting news would be what does Ron Paul (the next Republican Presidential nominee) have to say about it?
Come on ABC tell us. What does Ron Paul think?
Posted by: Carl Darby | May 24, 2007, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Valarie Plame….hahahha.
What a non story that was. The only scandal there was the nepostism involved in valerie sending her and her husband on a little junket.
Then there was the deliberate inconsistencies (ok they were really lies) in Joe Wilsons op ed which varied significantly from his actual report.
Whateve happened to “class” in the media. What purpose was served by this disclosure and the disclosure of the process to track bank transactions and listen to Bin Laden’s phone calls. The purpose was main stream medias willingness to print anything that would hurt the current administration.
Posted by: arthur | May 24, 2007, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
All the traitors in here who think the US GOVERNMENT is right in attacking nations who have nothing to do with our freedom or way of life need to get the hell out of America and get their cowardly tails to Iraq and fight for their “dear leader” W.
W has nothing to do with America. And neither do you.
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT. A REAL AMERICAN!
Posted by: M Mir | May 24, 2007, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Wow. I never thought I would hear some of the most naive comments on this issue, but it seems that many are misinformed. I have been reading over and over again and the FACT of the matter is that this information was probably, and note i say probably, released on purpose. The people who work for the CIA take these matters of secrecy to the highest level of precaution. My father, who works for the CIA, has told me that the CIA releases only the information that they want released. They know that ABC has no regards for the National Security of this country and that they wouldn’t think twice to “leak” a story like this. Aside from that, how do you entertain diplomatic relations with a madman, Ahmedenijhad, who factually supplies Al-Queda, Hezbollah and Hamass with weapons with which they kill our OWN troops overseas with?! Do you people forget that Al-Queda was the organization responsible for the 9/11 attacks which took 2750 of innocent American lives?! Anyone or any country who supports them or their associates and/or affiliates is a terrorist in my book and should be dealt with accordingly just like Saddam Hussein: Death by Hanging. I still remember vividly those two towers coming down, and I have just ended my college career to serve in the military in iraq, and many of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You call yourselves American? Ha. I know more people on Student visas who show more americanism than you. This war in Iraq was never thought to be an easy one, and yes PEOPLE DIE IN WAR, that is reality. But those people over there are better off now than they were when the Genocide-committing Terrorist Saddam was in power. Back to Iran. The President of Iran has authorized to increase uranium enriching reactor centrifuges by roughly 80%. We cannot take the risk of letting this madman/terrorist state/hornets nest of islamo-fascism acquire the ability to produce nuclear weapons. It is insane to think about! the same man/country supplying Al-Queda with Nuclear capabilities?! Democrat or Republican, this should make sense to you, and it is a matter of life or death. We must act sooner rather than later. I hope that I do not have to say I told you so. That day would be very grim. Oh and by the way. Many of you do not understand the reasons for why this country has taken action in some ways it has; but get this: maybe some things are meant to be kept from the public, because the general public is stupid and will refuse to accept the truths that are fact. But like a gentlemen above me stated, nothing should be kept secret, i want to know all i can about our evil gov. Sure, kind sir, lets just share all of our secrets with just us americans, no other countries will find out…and that is why our government tells us nothing…anyway wish me luck overseas…i will come back and let you know the REALITY over there…not what ABC OR FOX wants us to beleive.
Posted by: Ryan | May 24, 2007, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
ABC News reported Tuesday about the CIA’s covert plan to destabilize the Iranian regime.
Jolly good show!
Mitt Romney (who the hell names their kid after a baseball glove?) and Tom Trancredo (who reminds me of pale faced cartoon transvestite) –they just don’t get it.
Both seem to live in some imaginary pre-Bush world: they act like lying is not now-a-days declared true or that allies somehow don’t deserve to be betrayed. Of coarse they do. Be true to our party and our Republican administration.
Come on now, this is the Bush era. Its a Republican era. Doesn’t Romney and Tancedo know that?
Haven’t they not heard? Aren’t all of our Republican candidates in lock step and lackeys of this new Bush era? Aren’t we parrots of the great decider?
Don’t pretend this isn’t the case.
Either the puppet government in Iraq does what Bush demands –turn over 80 % of Iraqi oil to his corporate buddies– or they get overthrown. Nothing complex about it.
The puppets within the parliament in Baghdad have been dragging their feet, they are not moving swiftly on the Bush’s self aggrandizing occupiers scheme that these puppets turn over Iraqis oil reserves to the western petroleum corporations.
And this is what (and why) overthrowing them (once AGAIN) is all about: they must pass the new oil law so the “our” oil corporation can legally steal Iraqi oil. Give the Bush gang 30 years to pump Iraq dry .
But its not happening. The law is in limbo.
Thus the Iraqi government must be torpedoed in a sneak attack by Bush and by Empire Central.
*****
Tancredo, please listen up, don’t be like those democratic insects; this is the true Republican creed that you formerly avowed. Be honest, you have supported this approach all along and with every vote you cast in Congress:
# theft, plunder, plot, plan, squander, steal America’s revenue and Iraqi oil wealth while demanding that the American people infinitely support a useless and unending war -forever and ever.
# scheme like Karl Rove and the Devil himself and work night and day to build PNAC’s empire so that Cheney (Mr Halliburton) the Bush family (the Bush gang), and a select group of plundering buddies -along with assorted loyal neonazicon ideologues- become as wealthy as God.
# Survival of the wealthiest is true conservatism. Christianity is superior to all other mongrel systems of belief. That’s what “born again” means. Call all Arabs and Palestinians “terrorist” and everything else follows. True conservatism.
*****
Our Baghdad puppets are not with the agenda. So the Bush administration must turns the bulldogs loose.
The puppets of Baghdad must dance properly or their strings get cut. Ah shucks, cut em anyway.
And Romney, don’t pretend you care about “secrets” that are NOT secret, and shouldn’t be. Go along with it. You know that it is time once again for a new batch of lies from Bush and company? You have your marching orders. You are a banker so you are aware of price gouging at the gas pump. This is the way it works. You are a banker so you must go along with corporate plundering.
But rather than being a realist you now blowing smoke in an effort to re-cover, or is it cover-up that which is obvious, that the Iraqi government must be overthrown by the CIA and military intelligence agencies.
*****
Folks, isn’t it time for Romney and Trancredo to grow-up. To be men?
Don’t they know that once a blood sucking OCUUPIER, always a blood sucking OCCUPPIER? . Romney, please be patriotic to price gouging, its the American way. Let’s be happy as we pay at the pump. Romney don’t falter, support price gouging, support the corporate state, support perpetual war for perpetual war, and pump up the military-industrial complex and squeeze everything else. That’s what “republican” means. Romney you know this.
Haven’t these two candidates got the message? haven’t they heard? haven’t they understood the true depth of necessary irrationality and treachery behind Bush policies, the meaning of his lies?
Candidates, don’t be so weak kneed, either be truthful and proclaim your support of plunder and treachery and ever higher prices for gasoline (for gouging) or be the biggest liar running for President. That what these times demand of Republican candidates.
Like most Republicans, in this Bush era, I am truely embarrassed by the shallowness of both of your candidacies.
5-25-2007
Posted by: Wolsey Woodcutter | May 25, 2007, 12:13 am 12:13 am
I personally plan to boycott ABC & Disney. I have no other way to convince them they are wrong. I will also contact my congressmen and senators to complain about ABC’s duplicity. Likeminded folks should join in.
Add ABC to the Boycott France list.
By the way, those of you like Wolsey Woodcutter who pretend to be Republicans and are “embarrassed”–your politics are transparent. You don’t fool anyone. Red State and proud of it.
Posted by: Shawn in RED state | May 25, 2007, 12:42 am 12:42 am
the plan call for using sunni extemist against shia extremist could back fire and likely to brew back.we see this before, it call Afghanistan.
Posted by: ricky | May 25, 2007, 12:43 am 12:43 am
correct me,the original plan for using sunni extremist come from saude Arabia.the biggest danger of this plan not only strenghting al queda,but also this radical sunni ideology could spread to other country such as turkey,bosnia…etc
second ,sunni extremist has there own agendathere political platform are basically identical to osama ben laden.
Ron Paul is correct, US should stay out of middle east.
Posted by: ricky | May 25, 2007, 1:01 am 1:01 am
To Ryan,
BRAVO!!
Posted by: Mike Mallimo | May 25, 2007, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Ryan,
Good Luck! But I’m thinking you’ll need a lot more than even the best of luck to survive the reality over there!
But in case you actually do make it back alive, I’m sure it will be very interesting to hear you discuss it in terms of reality — the reality that’s clear to so many of us already! And what a refreshing change that will be!
But, truthfully, I don’t need you to die over there to protect me over here; okay?
However, if you really want to defend democracy and our freedoms and all those great and glorious American blessings, I wish you’d stay right here and fight the good fight for those blessings before they entirely slip away from us at home!
And please don’t kill too many of us innocent bystanders wherever you go …
Posted by: Wholly Rogue Emperor | May 25, 2007, 2:20 am 2:20 am
ABC Crew: STOP apologizing to these politicians! Aren’t you just doing your job as journalists are supposed to do ???
Posted by: L Avos. | May 25, 2007, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Good job ABC! Its about time the American Press did it’s job and reported real news.
If ABC did not report the story, a foreign paper would have. ABC did not comment treason. The people who are critical of the story need to educate themselves about the rest of the world. How many of you can identify your state let a lone a foreign country on the map. And know a little history of the rest of the world! Please
neo-CONS and Bush supporter go back to TV watch NASCAR and drink your Coors light!
Posted by: mitch | May 25, 2007, 2:29 am 2:29 am
Everytime these ego-centric journalists report information they believe to be classified, they place my country and its citizens at risk. They wrap themselves in the 1st ammendment and justify their actions by declaring that “the public has a right to know.” Frankly, I’ve more concerned with our right to survive. Perhaps its time to start filing class action lawsuits against these journalistic improprieties!
Posted by: DigiBear | May 25, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Anytime any news source doesn’t publish what it feels is newsworthy…my rights to knowledge about what my government is doing is diminished. In recent years, this has happened so much that I have little faith in the networks. Glad to see ABC incrementally trying to become a real news agency again. However, like the other networks, it has quite a distance to make up before I can trust them ever again. If I don’t blanch with people calling me unpatriotic for wanting to know what my governement does in my name and doesn’t like to tell me, I expect the same of a news source I read.
Posted by: Patrick | May 25, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Ummmmm..it may sound naieve, but don’t you think the Iranians already either knew this through their own internal sources within Iran or would of at a minimum guessed it was going on. It’s not really rocket science.
Posted by: Jon | May 25, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I think we need to Impeach King George and his head henchman Cheney and then try them for war crimes. As for leaking information, I’m still waiting for Rowe to be prosecuted. But as for trying to do anything to/in Iran, Bush should shut up and stay out of it, this is for their neighbors to handle not us. If Bush supports it, then I distrust it 100%.
Posted by: Wendy | May 25, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
The biggest treason in Iran was when the Reagan and Ollie the Ostrich sold arms to the Iranians? What were those traitors thinking about?
Posted by: Paul | May 25, 2007, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Treason! Interesting concept. Reading the comments scares me. The Media doesn’t go nearly far enough in exposing treason nor does our Government. Every President, Vice President, Senator and Congressman, raised their hand and swore to uphold and live by the Constitution of the United States. They clearly haven’t read it. No foreign entanglements, no pre-emtive wars. Every action by our Government for many years now has been to appease their elite Masters (major share holders, Constitution be damned. Our names are now attached to torture, over throwing democraticly elected Governments, guilt until proven innocent and American freedoms going dark. Good for ABC for doing what our Congress should be doing should they ever crawl from under the Rockefeller rock. Quit being frightened and vote Ron Paul!
Posted by: Jim Hix | May 26, 2007, 1:11 am 1:11 am
.
2nd (edited) entry for wide public distribution:
(WW)
“GOP Candidates Criticize ABC News Report on CIA-Iran Plan”
May 23, 2007 1:52 PM
Two Republican presidential candidates today criticized the ABC News report Tuesday about the CIA’s covert plan to destabilize the Iranian regime.
“I was shocked to see the ABC News report regarding covert action in Iran,” Mitt Romney said as he opened a session with reporters in Tulsa, Okla.
Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., called for an investigation into who leaked the information and “condemned” ABC News for “running the story which could jeopardize American lives.”
A Comment Added:
ABC News reported Tuesday about the CIA’s covert plan to destabilize the Iranian regime.
Jolly good show!
Mitt Romney (who the hell names their kid after a baseball glove?) and Tom Tancredo (who reminds me of pale faced cartoon transvestite) –they just don’t get it.
Both seem to live in some imaginary pre-Bush world: they act like lying is not now-a-days declared true, or that allies somehow don’t deserve to be betrayed. Of coarse they do. Be true to our party and our Republican administration.
Come on now, this is the Bush era. It’s a Republican era. Don’t Romney and Tancredo know that?
Have they not heard? Aren’t all of our Republican candidates in lock step and lackeys of this new Bush era? Aren’t we parrots of the great decider?
Don’t pretend this isn’t the case.
Whether it’s Iran or Iraq, Bush policy is the same. Get the oil and keep it off the market. Help drive the price of gasoline up and up.
Either the puppet government in Iraq does what Bush demands –turn over 80 % of Iraqi oil to his corporate buddies– or they get overthrown. Nothing complex about it.
The puppets within the parliament in Baghdad have been dragging their feet, they are not moving swiftly on the Bush’s self aggrandizing occupiers’ scheme that demands these puppets turn over Iraqis oil reserves to the western petroleum corporations.
And this is what (and why) overthrowing them (once AGAIN) is all about: they must pass the new oil law so that “our” oil corporations can legally steal Iraqi oil. Give the Bush gang 30 years to pump Iraq dry.
But it’s not happening. The law is in limbo.
Thus the Iraqi government must be torpedoed in a sneak attack by Bush and by Empire Central.
*****
Tancredo, please listen up, don’t be like those democratic insects; this is the true Republican creed that you formerly avowed. Be honest, you have supported this approach all along and with every vote you cast in Congress:
# theft, plunder, plot, plan, squander, steal America’s revenue and Iraqi oil wealth while demanding that the American people infinitely support a useless and unending war -forever and ever.
# scheme like Karl Rove and the Devil himself and work night and day to build PNAC’s empire so that Cheney (Mr Halliburton) the Bush family (the Bush gang), and a select group of their plundering buddies -along with assorted loyal neonazicon ideologues- become as wealthy as God.
# “survival of the wealthiest” is true conservatism. Christianity is superior to all other mongrel systems of belief. That’s what “born again” means. Call all Arabs and Palestinians “terrorist” and everything else follows. True conservatism.
*****
Our Baghdad puppets are not with the agenda. So the Bush administration must turns the bulldogs loose.
The puppets of Baghdad must dance properly or their strings get cut. Ah shucks, cut em anyway.
And Romney, don’t pretend you care about “secrets” that are NOT secret, and shouldn’t be. Go along with it. You know that it is time once again for a new batch of lies from Bush and company? You have your marching orders. You are a banker so you are aware of price gouging at the gas pump. This is the way it works. You are a banker so you must go along with corporate plundering and windfall gouging.
But, rather than being a realist, you now bluster and blow smoke in an effort to re-cover, or is it cover-up, that which is obvious: that the Iraqi government must be overthrown by the CIA and military intelligence agencies.
*****
Folks, is it not time for Romney and Trancredo to grow-up. To be men?
Don’t they know that once a blood sucking OCUUPIER, always a blood sucking OCCUPPIER? . Romney, please be patriotic to price gouging, it’s the American way. Let’s be happy as we pay more and more at the pump. Romney don’t falter, support price gouging, support the corporate state, support perpetual war for perpetual war, and pump up the military-industrial complex and squeeze everything else. That’s what “republican” means. Romney, you know this.
Haven’t these two candidates got the message? Haven’t they heard? Haven’t you understood the true depth of necessary irrationality and insane treachery behind Bush’s policies, the meaning of his lies? Of course you have. That’s why you demand more of the same.
Candidates Romney and Tancredo, don’t be so weak-kneed, either be truthful and proclaim your support of plunder and treachery and for ever higher prices for gasoline (for oil company gouging) or become the biggest of all liars running for President. That what these times demand of mainstream Republican candidates. Get with it. Stop pretending you’re offended.
Certainly, during this war making Bush era, joined by most Republicans I know, I am truly embarrassed by the shallowness of both of your candidacies.
Posted by: Wolsey Woodcutter | May 25, 2007 12:13:51 AM at ABC news.
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Posted by: Wolsey Woodcutter | May 26, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Hey folks, did you know that ABC news gave the administration 6 days to say something before they published it?
I think it is more sickening that the administration didn’t do anything to stop it. If they didn’t mind then you shouldn’t care that ABC News published it. If you call this act treason, then it is also treason that the administration didn’t do anything to stop it and the fact that it come from someone’s mouth in the administration. This was a planned ‘leak’ by the administration, and I feel it is so that Bush can provoke the Iranians into action so that he doesn’t have to go to Congress for a war with Iran. If another country did this on American soil, you would call it an act of of aggression, yet when the president does it in another country it is ok? How hypocritical of you. Coincidence that Bush just moved 6 war ships into the Persian Gulf?
This is clearly an act of aggression by the Bush administration against another sovereign nation!
Reminder, the administration had 6 days from ABC to say something about the story, yet they did not, that is treasonous!
Posted by: Barak | May 26, 2007, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
So, the gang of Bushi’s along with Neoconservatives “arrange” the control demolition of the twin towers in Sept.11, and use it as apretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq, and then declare war on terrorism and now helping Jondollah terorrist groups in Pakistan to kill Iranians and ABC expose it. Who is the traitor?
Posted by: Ramon | May 27, 2007, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Thank God for ABC! Thank God for the free press and the Constitution! ABC, please keep doing your job… we can’t survive as a country without the free press.
Mitty Hairboy and Tom Tancrazy are a couple of authoritarian lunatics. May they both lose hugely, as they deserve.
Posted by: drindl | May 29, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Unbelievable irresponsibility on Brian Ross’s part for making such blatant selfish and moronic comments.Fire the S.O.B.
Posted by: John N. | May 29, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
“Where have you gone Ron Paul? Our nation turns our lonely eyes to you!” He might be the best chance for the Republic.
Posted by: Brent | July 27, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Whether or not ABC should have broadcast this is irrelevant. I am just dumbfounded that Bush is planning another war. Gee the imbecile cannot finish two of them and now wants a third. He is following Hitler, maybe not in death camps, but the way he runs the war, like Hitler he ignores generals and others not to his thinking. Hitler like Bush lived in denial. Well I really have no sympathy for the US if the congress does nothing to stop this
Posted by: Todd | October 16, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
I would like to see the reaction of the cowardly congress and general public when the swaggering dictator decides to start a third front. They will probably stay as always, MUTE. Gee how far america has come since the greatest generation of WWII to a present day bunch of brain dead quivering masses of fear. But then all empires meet their demise
Posted by: Jeff | October 16, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm