Cheney Power Grab: Says White House Rules Don’t Apply to Him

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Cheney is right – he is not part of the executive branch : he is the monarch of the country!!

Cheney, you have violated the Constitution by perjuring your oath of office. That puts you in rebellion to the Constitution and makes you a domestic enemy our armed forces are sworn to protect us from. So where are they?

According to the Constitution the duties of the Vice President are defined within Article I (which defines the Legislative branch) Section 3. Doesn’t this make the office part of the Legislative branch, as the office has no Executive function or duties?

Vice Presidents, up until Mondale, held the view that they were more a part of the legislative branch, since their only real job is to preside over the Senate.
So technically, Cheney is correct…he’s not really a part of the executive branch, but on the other hand, he’s not really a part of the legislative branch, either. The one office in the country where the framers really didn’t think it over too much.

According to the Constitution the duties of the Vice President are defined within Article I (which defines the Legislative branch) Section 3. Doesn’t this make the office part of the Legislative branch, as the office has no Executive function or duties?

All Hail the Mighty Cheney, Lord of the Flies!!!!
US House Resolution 333 details the Articles of Impeachment for Cheney. Encourage your representative to support this bill. Let’s now move forward with that first step and don’t stop until DickNBush get on that helicopter for their farewell trip out of Washington.

CHENEY IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!
He is the “evil puppet master” behind much of all that has gone wrong with the HELLACIOUS Bush administration. He honed his diabolical skills as part of the perverted and evil Nixon administration and, along with Rove, has conspired to usurp power from all branches of government and from the people of this country.
We are all in grave danger. He needs to be “slapped down”

If Cheney is not part of the Executive Branch, then he cannot claim Executive Privilege on his Energy Task Force.
Time to subpoena that fat fascist.

Dick Cheney is listed on the White House Web site as part of the Presidents Cabinet, Is the Presidents Cabinet not part of the Executive branch?
Why does he have a National Security Advisor?
Why does he have access to classified info to which Senate does not have access?
Why is he allowed to visit CIA and harangue them about yellowcake?
Dick is trying to have it both ways.
Impeach

And so, MSM, how do you plan on following up on this type of fascist opinion? Probably nothing as usual. Back to TPM, DailyShow and Kos!

Cheney has always reminded me of Mr Burns from The Simpsons…

Not a part of the Executive Branch? Uh…ok…so what branch of the US government ARE you a part of, jackass?

Cheney can argue that he is part of the legislative branch, as his only Constitutionally designated role ties him to the United States Senate. Such argument could be quite legitimate. However, if that is the case, he can’t claim executive privilige any more and the rules that apply to the legislative branch will apply to him.
The VP is either in the executive or legislative branch. We’d better figure out which one the VP is in, so that we know how to properly apply the laws to his office.

Robert…it is true that the VP’s duties are enumerated under Article 1, which is the article laying out the legislative branch. However, the only mention of the VP is in Section 3 (“The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided…”) and Section 4 (“The Senate shall choose their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of the President of the United States…”). In other words, he is only mentioned when identifying his one constitutional duty…to preside over the Senate.
Article 2, which lays out the executive branch begins with “The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows…” He is mentioned throughout Article 2, vis-a-vis the qualifications for the office, his role in a vacancy of the office of President, etc. So while your point is true, the VP has always been considered a member of the executive branch, even though he has legislative duties.

Executive branch is the president. The Vice President is a cabinet member and president of the house. This is what we call the le-gi-sla-tive branch. It’s a big word can you say it. Waxman is on a witch hunt. It is sad that ABC and Ross so mislead the lemmings. The media leads the people and WOW what a job ABC has done. People!!! There are actually rules about impeachment. When you shout impeach impeach you sound like morons.

he is the most evil individual alive on the planet at this moment…all other evil pales to his…

forget impeachment…Cheney should be detained and tried as a war criminal, then suffer the same fate as war criminals…Bush and the rest of the lot should be right there with them…and just so you know I’m bipartisan about this, throw all the men and women of congress in with them, all those that voted to authorize the war and vote to keep funding it, Dems and Reps…clean house, start over…

So cheney has once again shown that he is an egotistical huberistic IDIOT. Are not all people who think that they are better than others.?

OK as a member of of the legislative branch does anyone remember when they found out Jefferson had 90K in his freezer. Congress was outraged because many thought he should be exempt from the search because of Legislative privlidges. So Cheney would be entitled to these not Executive. It’s pretty simple really.

If it’s true that he is part of the legislative branch of the government, Is claiming legislative priviledge? What’s up with that?

Larry,
can he say ex-ec-u-tive? LOL! Good one!
This blog is really slow.

I believe that there is a special place in Hell reserved for Cheney and Bush.
I will cheer the day when they get there!

As special operations staff advisor (J-3) to Gen. Creighton Abrams in 1968-69, my father, Lt. Col. John R. Jarvis, United States Army Special Forces, senior SOG commander, lost so many men that to this day the true number remains unknown. No doubt that will forever be the case. So let me make a prediction in their name, Mr. Cheney.

LOL, thanks Larry! Yes, Jay’s comment is inaccurate. I taught American Government for a decade and, having read all of the Federalist Papers, I would hope I know what the Founding Fathers were thinking about the office of Vice President. Many people forget that the Founding Fathers were used to a parliamentary system of government, not a presidential system. So when Brian said the founders didn’t think about the office of VP too much, he was really correct. They only wanted to establish an order of succession in case something happened to the President. Other than that, the VP was considered like the heir to the British throne…he/she has to depend on death to amount to anything!
Other than that, I think Cheney is silly doing this. Everyone who knew him back during his Ford/Bush 41 days says he has changed and not for the better. Like Dubya, I think 9/11 turned him into a zealot, thinking he had a divine mission to save the country. Like Dubya, I think history won’t look kindly on him.

I agree that this should be on the nightly news(or did I somehow miss it). Does cheney’s claim that his office is not part of the executive branch preclude him from invoking executive privilege????????? It doesn’t seem like he can have it both ways.

Here’s a tip…
If it took you 4 years to get this story, maybe you ought to be writing ad copy for some county Penny-Saver.
Wexler

So, Dick Cheney believes he’s not part of the Executive Branch?? If so, he has NO immunity from criminal charges. He can be thus tried for HIGH TREASON with-out any impeachment proceedings, and be executed upon conviction. Therefore, Mr. Cheney, by cutting yourself off from the Executive Branch, you’ve just sealed your DEATH WARRANT for TREASON. In case you haven’t learned, the Vice President has NO immunity from prosecu-tion for any crimes he may commit; and, you’ve committed many serious ones – among them, high treason and mass murder.

This story is huge!

SOMEDAY ,I hope in my time, CHENNY IS FOUND TO BE ONE OF THE 19 WTC TERRORISTS .
Look guys,this government is getting away with all kinds of dirty stuff–the problem is our lackie news media–important issue back pages, poor Isreal -front pages. Get my drift ?

Ya know, I might be willing to cut Cheney some slack if he actually had a reason to try to get around the rules, but he doesn’t even appear to have that. It seems like he’s just trying to keep secrets.

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the senate during an impeachment trial doesn’t make him a member of the legislative branch of government any more than when the VP presides over the same. First Mr. Cheney gets it into his mind to put the U.S. and Israeli “boot” across the Arabs’ necks, now, he wants to put it across ours as well. I say impeach the BUM!

Well then NO executive privilege for Cheney.

Did anyone play DOOM 2 ? Remember the Sound effect of stepping in the acid ? UHHH, UHHHH or iiHH , iiHH . LoL thats Cheney from a canadian perspective

“This is slavery:
not to speak one’s thought.”
-Euripedes
THANKS folks for telling it like it sadly is.
NOW – will Congress get off the corporatist payroll… and do their DUTY like IMPEACH?
STOP more wars for profit… like IRAN?
NOT “business as usual” people!

the people of america are now experience the collateral damage of ultra liberalism,an another branch of absolute monarchy,with a messianic message,god tell me to attack this country,that’s georges bush role,and the market and american entreprise need a new war that’s big dick role,at the end they told that is to protect their people,but in fact they first try to protect their interest and the lobby who strongly backing them,america is not the choosen nation,and the cowboys dreams are over

We got a dictator as a VP and an idiot as a president. Yes, it’s happening to US. Our boys and girls should be fighting for OUR freedom HERE and NOW, not following some crazy apocalyptic secret agenda and killing innocents in the process.
This is the US not frikkin’ Oceania!!!

Hello America… World calling, with a message to all the good people of that once fine land.
Please take ownership of your country and give us the rest of the planet a break from WAR! many of us are at best tired and very upset and at worst living in hell.
Your controllers use your TAX to kill us by the thousand every month in places like AFRICA, SOUTH AMERICA and yes the Middle East.
Action on your part is required now. We stand in line every day against the anger of dark forces. We now ask you to stand with us. As one peolpe united in peace you can do this.

Cheney is obviously hiding something.
I heard that he was seen with a large
vehicle in front of his home which contained a shredding machine.
As this is hearsay, I don’t know but
I wouldn’t put it past him. He is crazy
and dangerous.

As you may have noticed, you are seriously outnumbered by the rational, thinking Americans who have had enough of the NWO man behind the curtain bull. Keep your blinders on and you can be one of their slaves, the rest of us are going to head for the hills and wait for our chance to take back our country from these

One set of rules for the ‘leaders’ and another for the ‘commoners’, yet more infringements on our rights by the gov’t. Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like “America Deceived” from Amazon.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
They violate the 4th Amendment by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov’t.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and end this madness.

IMPEACH!ARREST HIM FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

Is it safe to say that he’s running out of room to maneuver?

Truth is knowledge We see the deception wrapped around this issue.Remember to use the VEil to deceive the masses.That internationally is called the EVil.Time creates justice of light.Cross bone that ^

Cheney is a very close associate of G. Bush senior whom I believe is the real President and Cheney is the father’s control agent over the son Dubya.
Cheney’s reward for his service to Bush Sr. are the financial rewards from his stock holdings he has in Halliburton & KBR.
Cheney needs to be arrested and tried for treason!

I do NOT recall this being aired on the nightly news. What good is it, if it just sits in this little Internet(s) space?

IMPEACH THE BUM!

The executive power is vested in the president of the US. The VP is part of the executive branch, but has NO Executive POWER. US Constitution!

Posted by: twocrows | Jun 22, 2007 8:00:55 AM
Who does Dick Cheney think he is Bill or Hillary Clinton, enough is enough.
Nice try troll. The Clintons (like them or hate them) did NOTHING even close to the level the administration has done. Instead of try to use the “but..but..Clinton” crap everytime a Republican gets caught doing something try stepping out of your delusional bubble and see what everyone else is seeing. If you are so blinded by party affiliation to not see what is going on here you are a very sad and loathsome person. Cheney is not above the law and but claiming he is not an executive he now gives up his right to “executive privledge”. You can have it both ways Mr. VP.

The more I read from the people posting here the more you confirm what I have suspected for a long time. Most people in this country are idiots and don’t have a clue when it comes to reality. V.P. Cheney is absolutely correct and by law, his information is protected.

This is a sign of resignation for Cheney, more than a power grab. Waxman is persistent and will get what he wants. Cheney has just calculated that he can stall long enough that it won’t matter. He and Bush will be out in 2009, that doesn’t give much time for investigations and Congressional Hearings needed to put teeth into any demands for information. Cheney knows this. Waxman is no showman. He will leverage the powers of his institution to put pressure on Cheney, but nothing Waxman does makes front page news. If Chuck Shumer is smart, he will stop beating the dead horse that is Alberto Gonzalez and start shining a light on Cheney who will squirm his way out of office. Cheney is the perfect villain for this political theatre. The only question is will the show open on Broadway or remain dinner theatre?

Cheney thinks he’s Bill or Hillary? Maybe oral sex would mellow him out and he wouldn’t have this need to prove his manhood by acting like dictator.

Forget Impeachment and arrest his insane ass NOW!! Get DICK Cheney out of there now, I can smell the sulfur here in MO.
Try him for war crimes, treason, etc.
If nothing else, subject him to a full psychiactric evaluation!! Get off your collective asses people and GET DICK CHENEY OUT OF OFFICE ASAP!!!

Forget Impeachment and arrest his insane ass NOW!! Get DICK Cheney out of there now, I can smell the sulfur here in MO.
Try him for war crimes, treason, etc.
If nothing else, subject him to a full psychiactric evaluation!! Get off your collective asses people and GET DICK CHENEY OUT OF OFFICE ASAP!!!

This man is a crook…plain and simple….Just like the Clintons!

Why are we sitting around and watching this ass do whatever he wants? It’s time for the people of this country to turn off the tv and demand this government be held accountable for the raping of the Constitution.

While Bush sleeps Chaney creeps

My God how much more does this evil maniac have to do before him and Bush are impeached and tried for War crimes?
They have ruined our economy, our standing in the world, invaded another country, based on lies, left the people they were hired to represent to drown, go without food, rescue, etc., broken our military, all but attempted to eliminate the middle class and imposed their truly “sick” morals on everyone and anyone. They have ignored, undermined and trashed our constitution, our legal system, our system of justice the Geneva conventions. They have tortured, threatened, attacked, and plainly relished in the fact that they are in charge! This isn’t the United States of America anymore, it’s the United State of Denial by every single American that are not taking action to take back our country from the religious right wacko neocon nutcases! We better hurry up because our military is paying a high price for our lack of action. They deserve better and so do we! Grannysue

He’s so unconnected with reality he ought to be institutionalized.
This guy’s dangerous.

Dick Chaney’s government branch can be summed up in one word: Halliburton.
It all goes forward as planned. But he already has his plagues in life. Time will tell. Tick-tock…

Dick, I am a little surprised at you! I realize your boss “W” is not expected to understand what most kids in 4th grade Civics Class are taught,but you!!…shame on you mister!

Mr. Cheney is insane. He needs to be impeached immediately for breaking the law. His actions are criminal and he must be held accountable. As citizens, notify your elected Senator and House of Representative immediately and demand impeachment hearings. This can no longer be tolerated. We as the American public can no longer sit idly by watching while sitting on our hands as our Government is being destroyed.

This is why confirmed screaming liberals like me pray daily for the health and safety of the President for whom we did not vote. Cheney does not scare me silly, he scares me rational. I trust him as far as I can throw the Rock of Gibralter. Lefthanded. Blindfolded. Standing en pointe on an oil slicked balance beam in hurricane force winds.

My biggest question is: Why is this story buried in the headlines, but when Paris Hilton got into a squad car it was “BREAKING NEWS”?!?!? ABCNews: you have an obligation under the Constitution to keep the people informed so that the goverment remains accountable to the people. That is your highest purpose! Please, FORGET about Paris, Lindsey, and all of the rest of that GARBAGE and do some real, in-depth, REPORTING!!

Although not in love with Cheney, I don’t see how we can condemn the man “according to a new letter from Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., to Cheney.”
Leonard tells Waxman about the Cheney office’s lack of cooperation and Waxman writes Cheney and makes the accusation.
This is hearsay, people!!
Cheney is too intelligent to say it. So where is the news!!

I have no doubt that this administration will go down in history as the most corrupt of all time. Hell, they started a war under false pretenses. Does anyone else find it more than just coincidental that Cheney stopped compiling with these requests from the ISOO in 2003, the same year they started the war in Iraq? “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”

You are so right Joseph… this story DOES belong ‘at the top of the hour’ news.
And guess what? Even the lowly Sacramento Bee featured it in their headlines today. I’m so damned proud of them.

why should this be a surprise. Cheney has thought himself above all rules since becoming Vice-President. He lives in his own little monarchy. and he continues to get away with it. we can just be thankful that he will never be President..oops, maybe he already is!

The sheer arrogance of this administration is beyond my comprehension…

He claims he’s not part of the Executive Branch but he’ll tell you he can’t testify because of “Executive Privilege”.
Dick Cheney is the real Osama Bin Laden of 9/11. He was in charge of NORAD that day when they were having their war games/drills. One of these games being a scenario where terrorists hit buildings with planes as weapons.
9/11 = Inside Job
Dick = Osama Bin Laden
PNAC/CIA = Al Qaeda
Impeach & Revolt!

This has been the most arrogant and power abusive administration in history. Thank God it’s almost finally over. We can only hope that this country can recover from the corrupt path this administration has led this country down over the past 7 years.

If he is not a part of the executive branch of the U.S. government, and does not play by any rules, then he should not draw a salary.

IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH We don’t know what that means but were gonna chant our little mantra until were blue in the face. My favorite quote from the blurbs above is from Larry….”His only legislative duty is as President of the Senate”. And Kyle agrees and teaches? Explains alot. You see Larry what you are saying is…Cheney is not part of the legislative branch he is only president of it…Huh? Keep reading those Federalist papers Kyle. and keyp edyucatin r keds.

Mr. Cheney has claimed Executive privilege and Legislative exemption when it suits his needs. While being granted the privilege of access to classified information, it goes without saying that he falls within the same rules and guidelines for everyone else. Unless he has something to hide???

Enemies foreign and domestic

My comment is simple. Duh-what? Are you folks watching too many Gieco commercials? Who cares! This is such low level noise besides being politically motivated. I wouldn’t trust Waxman to wash my car.
Impeach? Give me a break! If the Nation can’t impeach someone who has straight-up lied to them in the face over sex, then why should we impeach someone when they point out a constitutional oversight?
Not to mention that as a Nation we can’t hold someone accountable and send them to jail when they steal documents from the National archives that are classified! Freaking ridiculous.
Way to stir the pot ABC. The history class I went to called this YELLOW JOURNALISM.
It’s obvious that some need to go back to highschool and take civics again. In fact its really embarrasing. I am glad you folks aren’t doing my risk managment.
But the Darth Vader comments are pretty funny. Even the insinuation to Wizard of Oz was a riot.
But comparing VP Cheney and President Bush to Hitler as a dictator is simply preposterous. Probably done by the same people that don’t believe in the Holocost in the first place. Same folks who think religion is responsible for the World’s situation. Again, it would be pretty funny if it were not so dangerous.
This war in the Middle East is a war on Arab extremism. I could care less if there muslim or Christian. They declared war on this country when the plane crashed into WTC.

Cheney is mistaken since he has functioned as the co-president since 2001. Both he and Bush have convinced themselves that there is only one branch of government, THEIRS, and the only one that matters. Both have waived all rule of law as it applies to them. They are both in contempt of the Constitution and both need to be impeached.

Not an “entity within the executive branch.”??!! Unreal. What #### branch does this arrogant criminal think he falls under? Cheney is worse than Nixon, who at least had the humility to try and cover up his contempt for the Constitution and the people paying his salary.

Cheney? Why should I care about this guy? I have food on the table, bought with my maxed credit card. Two cars in the garage, I ride my bicycle to my job at McDonald’s cause I can’t afford gas and a house that gets foreclosed next month cause I work 15 hours a week at $7.00hr…..but who’s complaining, I live the American dream. Uh, Mr. Cheney can I borrow some money?

This story has been around in the alternative press for at least five months and I never dreamed it would make past the censors to the mainstream media. Did ABC News actually run this story, or does it stay in the blogsphere?

Mr. Light. I am curious, do you work for the RNC, or are you really that blind?

Please report this story in every venue possible. Do we need any further proof that Cheney and his band of merry men in the VP’s office have really been running the show since 2001? He has got to go, and Bush has to be the one to send him!!!! Make my brother’s third tour of duty in the Middle East stand for something by getting this very dangerous man out of the line of power in Washington D.C.

Remember folks that Cheney has no heart–or that he has a pacemaker pumping what is left of one. We should just get someone to crank up the microwave near him and make him do a hurdy gurdy dance out the front door of the white house and off into the sunset until we hear from him no more!!

Berlin, February, 1933. Reichstag burned down. State of emergency declared. Personal freedoms suspended.
March, 1933. Bill to give all legislative power to the executive branch granted. Soon all parties except Nazi party are banned. Is this the path we’re heading down, Mr. Cheney?

I agree that Cheney should not be part of the Executive Branch. he should be impeached.

Wow, so the repubs wanted an investigation over which phone in the whitehouse Gore used while he was campaigning but some of the repubs here would have us to believe no rules or laws apply to Cheney.
Just like they think it was okay for Libby to mislead and obstruct justice before a grand jury. Repubs are some odd ducks.

It is bad enough we have a moron for a president but Dick Cheney has no respect for the rule of law or open and honest government. He has done more than anyone in this administration to destroy our credibility around the world. The man should be impeached and then imprisoned for the crimes he has perpetrated on the American people. No one, repeat no one is above the law. I hope that he chokes on the obscene profits he will gain from his Haliburton stock.

How does this Administration continue to get away with what they do? Bill Clinton got impeached for getting “some” in the Oval Office and Bush and his staff just continue to break the law. What’s most repulsive is the fact that the US is more and more becoming the laughing stock of the world. The citizens of this country should be outraged.

Where is impeachment when we really need it? This one is unquestionably justified. Why is Nancy Pelosi so afraid of the “I” word? Impeachment would force the republicans to stand up for an unpopular administration during and election year!
…or would they?

Why are we supprised by this? This is a man who, as an advisor to Goerge W. was given the task of finding the best running mate possible in 2000 and after months of work and research, picked himself! The one thing positive (and I use that term very loosely) that he did with this pick is to make W. unimpeachable. If we impeach W. for lying to congress, not following the will of the people, or not preserving, protecting, and defending the constitution of the United States, we end up with President Cheney. Brilliant Dick! Just brilliant!

Joe Isuzu was more honest and trustworthy than Dick Cheney. Spiro Agnew was more law-abiding than Dick Cheney. Benedict Arnold had higher principles and was a better patriot than Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney thinks rules apply only to other people. Time to educate the wimp.

So does this mean Cheney has seceded from the Union or merely formed a fourth branch of government? Which would be worse?

Just another example of the power mad elected government officials in Washington that forget they’re not above the law. Choosing which law they want to abide by-not all laws. Forgetting the simple rules of leadership and decency they were elected to serve. I hope the next batch has more honor and humility.

Hey Roy, Perhaps you should take your finger out of your eye and re-read the first paragraph.
“Vice President Dick Cheney has asserted his office is not a part of the executive branch of the U.S. government,”
That does not sound like hearsay.
I’m reminded of Pinky and The Brain when it comes to Bush and Cheney.

OK… this has gone TOO far. Bush and Cheney need to step down IMMEDIATELY, before any more damage is done to this great country.

Cheney chose to de-throne Saddam because Saddam said and acted as if he was above the law. Sooooo….is there a similarity here?

557 days, 11 hours and 4 minutes (MST) until this administration of crooks and warmongers leaves office. Hopefully, an impeachment happens before then so we can right the sinking ship that is the good ole USA and return this country to normalcy and decency. CHENEY AND BUSH– PLEASE GO AWAY!!!!!!!!

Cheney is right. He should be above the law. He should be able to do whatever he wants.

“Dick Cheney is listed on the White House Web site as part of the Presidents Cabinet, Is the Presidents Cabinet not part of the Executive branch?”
The Vice Preisident is one of the few that are in the Cabinet, but not officially part of the Executive branch, he falls within a gray zone.
And, as stated, he falls under Article I; the legislative branch, but is very much free of all branches…as Im sure he feels in his mind, and is…
An Enigma.

Out of all this – all this complaining. Out of the reality of it all – just not of this idiot! But all of it! All of the lies – the scams – the BS that we’re being fed.
Listening to the Right – listening to the Left…… about it all. and they’re just as bad! They feed us THIER BS and we’re suppose to believe them!?
The media and why they don’t have it on the air – you know why. How can Jr. continue on as President of The United States. You know why.
MY BIG QUESTION? WHY ISN’T ANYTHING BEING DONE ABOUT ANY OF IT!? ALL OF IT! WHY ISN’T SOMETHING BEING DONE? Spell it out? WHY ISN’T SOMETHING BEING DONE? We did it in the late 60′s – we did it to Nixon. Where is the SDS and Weather Underground now – when we need them the most……..

This man should be impeached, and removed and then Bush should as well.. this has gone far enough.. these men did not learn the lessons of Watergate, now we need to teach them what we learned 35 years ago — NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW! No matter if we are at war, no matter what the circumstances… period.

I wish we knew what country that Cheney and Bush have committed treason with. It would be a whole lot easier for all of us; so that we could start learning the language. When they announced that the U.S. mint just issued the second batch of money without God’s name on it, I told my church that it won’t be long..
I believe that Cheney is the fore runner of the anti-christ.
I believe our ground troops were purposely lured over seas while 12 million aliens invaded our borders from who knows where and a new series of gun laws were passed.
With the FBI’s 20 new databases on all us US citizens at their disposal which include all guns and ammunition we have purchased, the names, ages and sex of residence in all our households.
When they come all we can do is give them the key to our houses and to our cars and ask that they be good to our wives and daughters and that they not kill our sons and grandsons.

Better Gulani than Hillary. My worst fears is that we will return to the Clintonista days where we ignored the threats against us and were more concerned with the rights of terrorist than the safety of Americans. I don’t know about you but I am not threaten by secret wire taps, or tracing money transactions. Why! Because I have nothing to fear they way I live my life. I could care less about George Bush, Karl Rove and Dick Cheny or the rest of those dim wits. Soon they will be gone. I just hope we don’t get another politically correct coward in charge.

Not part of the Executive Branch? Impeach Cheney now!!

How does this administration get away with this crap over and over again? The public needs to call their congressman and demand impeachment of both these clowns.
If you voted for Bush you owe this country (especially New Orleans) and the rest of the world an apology.
Makes me sick.

This whole white house ordeal had been a bad dream. I believe that the die hard GOP senators and republicans are going to interfere with any type of justice being give to any of it’s members.
We don’t want our representatives voting along a party ticket. If They don’t do what is good for the country we don’t want them back in office, and I believe that this is the beginning of the great fall for the GOP party.

Come on media! This story is huge, put it on the front page and all over the TV news. I have never seen so many negative comments about a President or VP in my entire life. Either the media is owned by the far right wing (not just FOX by the way) or we need to start underground newspapers and website to get this out everywhere.
WHERE ARE YOU THE PRESS!!!

Cheney is, in fact, subject to the constitutional rules governing the executive branch. Under Article II, sectio 4 of the constitution he may be removed from office via impeachment. Members of the legislative branch cannot be impeached. So let’s impeach Cheney now and prove to him he’s part of the executive branch.

Who cares what they did not declassify. Your safe, your family is safe, this history.
As for the perceived threats to your freedoms, what are you worrying about. Have they violated your privacy, searched your home, tapped your phone, kidnapped your friends in the middle of the night.
You have less rights at a Driving While Intoxicated check point by your local police.
We live in the greatest country in the world and you libs can’t seem to appreciate it. All you libs see is threats to your personal privacy. My worst fears is that we will return to the Clintonista days where we ignored the threats against us and were more concerned with the rights of terrorist than the safety of Americans. I don’t know about you but I am not threaten by secret wire taps, or tracing money transactions. Why! Because I have nothing to fear they way I live my life.

Ah yes, Dickie-boy Cheney and Georgie the “decider”. Both are power hungry and like to make up their own Constitutional rules. I agree they should be booted out of office. But, just stop and think about the people next in line. God help this country.
Anyway, I’ve had a belly shaking laugh while reading some of the above postings.

Dick Cheney needs to be careful. If he is not part of the executive branch then he does not have the protection that the executive branch offers. If he is part of the legislative branch then he is subject to their review. You can’t pick and choose the protections of each branch you want.

Bush senior realized Jr had a major handicap to overcome as president, mainly he was functionally illiterate, and ordered Jr to hire Cheney to run things. Even before being elected, Cheney was busy setting up a shadow government, complete with his own cabinet, to run things out of site of any media, any legislative oversite, without even the henderence of his incompitent boss, the President.

The Vice President is PRESIDENT of the SENATE. The Senate is trhe Legislative branch. The Vice President of the United States has NO Presidential power. He does have Senate duties. The VP is only there to take over if the Pres is incapacitated.
-S

If Cheney’s not part of the Executive branch, but is part of the Legislative branch instead – why has he not been following ALL of the rules of the Legislative branch?
If Cheney wants to play this game, the Dems need to investigate and IF he has failed to follow the rules of the Legislative branch – they should SLAM the hell outa him. (watch him crawl back to saying ‘I’m Executive Branch’ as soon as they try it).

The president has a legislative function, too: to sign legislation or veto it. That doesn’t make him part of the legislative branch. The Chief Justice has a legislative function: to preside at the impeachment of a president. That doesn’t make him part of the legislative branch, either. The vice-president has a legislative function: to preside over the Senate and to break ties there. See where I’m going with this? He’s part of the executive, and is breaking the rules established for that branch.
(Being part of the Cabinet, a body not mentioned in the Constitution, has nothing to with it; most presidents haven’t chosen to include the v-p in their Cabinets. Often, presidents and v-p’s barely spoke after the election.)

What an absurd, brazen, evil little man. While we slept for the last couple of years he has sold America to the highest bidder. And he doesn’t care what we think about it. If any man needed to be removed from office, even more so than the idiot in the Oval Office, it is Cheney. He truly deserves to go to prison. Too bad he has the Department of Justice in his pocket. I believe these are some of the darkest days our nation has ever seen. God help us all…

JDUB and so many others here make very valid points. Nixon was investigated. The Clinton/Lewinski affair was investigated to a tune of almost 10 times the amount of money that was spent on 9/11 was. Couple that with White Water and Vince Foster which were both proved to be no more than neo-con fabrications.
Yet our illustrious legislators have yet to open any investigations what so ever into any of the questionable practices and policies in play for 6 years by the Bush and Cheney administration. Not the least of which, this current fiasco.
What is wrong with us as a nation to claim that ours is a form of government built on justice for all to allow this railroading of the executive branch?
How do we push democracy with the blood of our troops and civilians elsewhere when we set this kind of an example for how a democracy is run…(into the ground) for the rest of the world?

This man is a threat to the national security of this nation. If he doesn’t agree to the rules set forth in the Constitution, then impeach him. Let’s put him in jail for all of his crimes!!

These guys are crazy,they smoke the good stuff or they just don’t care, maybe both. We the people should call them and email them and just keep doing it. Get their home phone numbers and just don’t let them sleep or blink without feeling that every move they make is being watched by WE THE PEOPLE.
If we can make them as paranoid as they want us to be,then maybe they will start taking their orders from WE THE PEOPLE again, like its supposed to be.The rule of law hell yes by consent of the governed we should let them know we are angry and maybe spit in their lunch every now and then. Remember the saying,”NO REST FOR THE WICKED” lol we should remind them of it. Quite frankly though I kind of fell most americans will just go back to sleep until something shiny makes them forget their troubles. Constant vigilance people let them know your watching,follow them,call them, email them. NO REST FOR THE WICKED. Do it or we all go boom

We have our men & women dieing in a foriegn country. We have children eating out of garbage cans. Health care & insurance costs so outrages that many are left without medical or dental care. Remember the little boy who died from an infection in his tooth? Pregnant women getting taken from their homes. People dieing in emergancy room waiting area’s. Ciminal’s rights are more important than the victim’s rights. Men with ego’s so big they will not admit when they are wrong in running the country. When will we have the spine as a nation to say enough is enough? Where did my country go?

Skip the long drawn out impeachment proceedings. if Cheney is not part of the Exec branch then he is not eligible for certain immunity from prosecution. Outside of the Exec branch he is fully exposed. I’d take him up on his offer and just arrest him outright and begin proceedings on various crimes which may include treason.

The VP is definitely part of the Executive branch as defined under Article 2 of the Constitution. Article 1 only states that the VP is President of the Senate and his only purpose is break a tie vote.
Cheney needs to read the Constitution and get with the plan or be fired or impeached.

Somebody ‘sic Gonzo on him. Oh…my bad!

Andy, Jay, and other neocons on this blog, screw you guys, America is falling into the abyss because of people like you, time for a new PREZ and administration. I am starting to get very annoid of the neocons in this country. I serve in the military, and sometimes wish I wasn’t because of the leaders in office (Cheney and Bush)!!!!!

January 20, 2009: The end of an ERROR! God help us, I just hope our country can hold on that long. IMPEACH DUBYA AND DICK NOW!!!!

THE GIGS UP DARTH VADER…SO YOUR NOT PART OF ANY LEGISLATIVE/JUDICIAL BRANCH AND YOU ARE NOT PART OF IT THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU YOU PUNK …WELL HERES A SOLUTION…IF NOT EITHER LEGIS/JUDIC BRANCH THEN LETS STOP FUNDING YOU THEN YOU WILL HAVE NO MONEY TO CONTINUE SO GET THE HELL OUT OF MY UNITED STATES…

I can’t believe my eyes. People are actually claiming that the Vice President’s office is a part of the legislative branch?! You gotta be kidding me. First of all, the Vice President is considered part of the executive branch… the fact that he is also president of the Senate and casts the deciding vote in the Senate in the event of a tie is part of the checks and balances of the Constitution… it is a way for the Executive Branch to have some swing over what bills pass the Senate. Second, Dick Cheney has already stated that he wouldn’t testify under oath because of executive privilege. He can’t have it both ways. He is either a part of the executive branch and entitled to executive privileges, or he’s not. Which one is it?

I am not a constitutional lawyer either and do not believe Dick Cheney is eligible for congressional protections when he was selected to the to the Executive branch in 2000 and 2004. Did he claim these same protections when he was trying to hide the content and participants of his secret energy task force in 2001? Did the Supreme Court rule for a legislator or executive? In the CIA Leak case, was any of Mr Cheney’s political posturing during the investigation and trial that of a legislative branch member? Didn’t he make a public disclosure that as a member of the Executive Branch, he could unilaterally declassify Top Secret information? I think great Constitutional legal minds should be able to find legal precedent argued by and for Executive status on behalf Mr Cheney. The problem for America is the alignment of Supreme Court in favor of the tyranny this scumbag has perpetrated on our system.

Wow, another personal atack on Cheney from ABC. Gotta love the ABC headline writers,, I bet they have Cheneys picture plastered across the office with “Nuke Cheney” signs throughout. This story reeks with partisan hatred for the Bush administration and just maybe ABC should be investigated for chicanery.

If he is not part of the executive branch, what is he then? An independent agency?
And if he is not part of the executive, as Darth Cheney claims, then he cannot even claim executive privilege.

Whats the big uproar. Everyone knows Cheney is part of the shadow governement part of the US government that is accountable to only an elite few that routinely breaks the law, routinely commits heinous acts, rountinely lies to the rest of the governemnt, routinely channels the majority of wealth into an elite few etc etc etc. I mean the MSM clearly grasps this. Cheney is just breaking ground by stating the obvious.
Seriously though if Cheney, Bush, Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfield etc etc etc dont go to jail for a long long time after all thats come to light recently, whats the point of having a US governemnt and its so called watchdog the media.

So Bill, You still support Chenney, a man who has done more to damage America than anyone since Richard Nixon. Chenney is a disgrace and should be universally vilified.

sadly, i think this story will be quickly forgotten. if only it would make headlines like Paris Hilton! People need to know about this and SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

Bill, it is not only ABC. Every news network is carrying it. Cheney needs to go!
EVERYONE WRITE YOUR REPS!

There will be enough time for the destruction of classified information that will show the Plame outing, 9/11, Halliburton contracts, secret energy meetings, and a plethora of dealings that would make the average American shudder with fear and disbelief. He is a criminal.

Remember this: many people voted these bozo’s into office 2 times. I hope next time we’re all a bit more educated in our votes as our country is on a downward spiral on all major accounts.

How about this people. Isn’t Cheney the same guy that went around the country promoting the ability of the FBI to conduct domestic spying. What a Hypocrit.
IT’s alright to spy on US without us knowing, but it’s not alright for Darth to comply with the same standard openly within the law.
REPULICAN’S NEED TO WAKE UP.
WHAT HAPPEN TO SMALL GOVERNMENT.
WHAT HAPPEN TO DECREASE SPENDING.
WE HAVE LOST OUR MORALS.
Mr. Regan, where are you when we need you most. The republican party has been taken over by cronies and big business. Big business is not representative of the people, it representative of the money. Democracy is representative of the people. I feel great pain for the great country and hope the next president can reverse the damage.

He needs to be impeached first and then Bush.

The MOST dangerous man in America

Unbelievable. Why is Cheney still at large?

Michael J. Apostal:
I have a better method, Richard Cheney should have a trial,followed by a public flogging,tarring and feathering and ridden out of town on a rail.

The mentality of this administration is that of a police state and it hides behind the pretense of democracy. When Bush claimed I heard you clearly at the speech in NY after 9/11, I was boiling in spirit. Now I am frozen in dismay. I am just looking forward to the end of this administration, my seemingly unending nightmare.

First George Bush pulled his power grab a couple of weeks ago. Now Cheny is falling right into step, Any and all of us who see this coming need to start packing for the reeducation camps. This world is really gonna blow..and that’s just what they want.

Getting this story out may be the beginning of the end for Cheney. It will be interesting to see if he has a comeback. Hopefully the Legislature will hear the call of the people and actually bring the impeachment charges to Cheney and Gonzales. Then we will only have to worry about Rove. Any suggestions for getting him out?

Cheney is right. He is a member of the legislative branch of the government, and an elected official (specifically, he is the presider of the US Senate). As such, he can’t be fired by the President. Anyone in the executive branch can.
He is next in line for being the chief executive, but he has no legislative duties.
It’s kindof like the difference between a production manager, and a QC manager at a company. If there is a company directive for all production people to keep certain records, the QC people need not.

It is obvious that this administration are comprised of power hungry RANK AMATEURS! They are dangerous and perhaps the single BIGGEST MISTAKE the voting population have EVER made in this nation. It is time to impeach… all partisanship aside, this administration is ruining this nation.

Holy smoke……
Cheney said whattttttttt
this is got to be on the show !!

*****Remember this: many people voted these bozo’s into office 2 times. I hope next time we’re all a bit more educated in our votes as our country is on a downward spiral on all major accounts.
Posted by: remember this | Jun 22, 2007 10:38:15 PM*****
I don’t expect anything more from the american voting public. Case in point, why is Hillary hated so much. It’s based upon heresay. Just like Mr Greenjeans and Swiftboated Kerry. The amercan voters love to hate someone and love heresay to decide their votes. And the Republicans (aka Rove and Atwater) have turned character assination to a science. I know I sound pessessismestic, but don’t expect anything better from the American voter. I couldn’t beleve GW got elected in 2004 and I think 2006 was a fluke…. It’ll never happen.

In a posting by -S: “The VP is only there to take over if the Pres is incapacitated.”
Well, guess what -S, Dubya has always been mentally incapacitated, and BIG DICK has always been in charge.
Unfortunately our legislators are too spineless to take corrective action, and our fellow citizens are too busy following Ms. Glitzy Trash and loading their cars at Mal-Wart to concern themselves about what is happening to their country. Bread and Circus.
Meanwhile another soldier from my town has just been killed, thousands of Iraq’s civilians are dying, and the terrorists who have honed their skills fighting our troops are ready to fan out across the globe. So much for keeping us safe.
IMPEACH BOTH BASTARDS.

If anyone thinks that anything will come from this, they are fools. This administration has and will continue to get away with all kinds of illegal matters. They are masters of finding loopholes that exempt them from any prosecution. Would it surprise anyone that Cheney get’s away with this?

we the people have to make these criminal accountable to US, we can,t trust anyone in government, we can use them but we have to do things ourselves. there is no difference between either party they ALL want POWER.

Henry Waxman has been a pathological liar and partisan demagogue for most of his Congressional career. Ask me whether I trust him or Cheney, I’d have to go with Cheney every time. Waxman has just told too many whoppers during his over-long career for me to ever trust him again.
I’m surprised that ABC News is running Waxman’s allegations as straight news. They are clearly nothing but balloon juice meant to create the impression that something is wrong when it clearly is not – Joe Wilson/Valerie Plame all over again.

I am from Wyoming as is Cheney and I
am embarrassed to admit it in public. Impeach him along with Bush. They are
a pair of losers and liars. Dorla

Next he’s going to claim that he doesn’t for the United States or its people…hmmm…probably true, I take it back….

Cheney is a member of the Corporate Branch of government.

Arguing back and forth is what the bush gang loves to hear. It means we’ll be to distracted to make the hard choices that need to made.
Where are the checks and balances that our country were built with.
Speaking of checks, where are the receipts for the billions of dollars supposedly spent on our troops. One or two of those billions would go a long way to lobby health benefits for our nation since polititions don’t do anything for anything except money.

This story will never be a main story because the media is totally controlled and they want us hear about how Al-CIA-da is dangerous.

I thought Tricky Dicky was dead, thank God.
Wait a minute, this is a different Tricky Dicky…..
Never mind.

ABC, NBC, CBS are too busy tagging every Iraq question with “Al-Qaeda” and “Iran” sound-bites to air the domestic treason being perpetrated by Bush, Cheney, Rice, et al.
Have you not noticed how EVERY sound bite about the Iraq genocide is now (not a few weeks ago) heavily peppered with those 2 allegations- Al-Qaeda and Iran.
What they had always labeled until a few weeks ago “insurgents” have ALL now been labeled Al-Qaeda, and every mention of weapons is now tagged with the allegation that they come from Iran.
See what I mean?
No time to talk about the treason OVERFLOWING from the White House executive branch.
And YES that includes Cheney of course.
Imprison, indict, impeach.
I don’t care in what order.

Wake up America,
Don’t wait before its to late…

Cheney needs to comply with the OSOO and allow the protections established to protect our country and our citizens to work. Allowing one office to refuse to comply is like injecting cancer cells into our government that will grow and fester. As the Government sickens from the cancer more and more decisions will be made outside of the Constitution. The Cheney cancer, as well as the many other strains already eating away at the United States (many decades old) will eat away at the freedoms and structure of the United States until it becomes an Communist entity, part of the New World Order. The most recent acts underway to further this goal are the Amnesty Bill and the creation of the North American Union.
Possible solutions: write your Congress people and Senators and tell them to put an end to this or not be re-elected, change your party affiliation to anything but Republican or Democrat, do not vote for anyone that is running for election that has accumulated huge amounts of campaign funds (they are owned by their contributors), vote for condidates that are not members of the controlling parties, fight to get rid of organizations whose goals are to bring about the New World Order (such as the Council on Foreign Relations), have the Constitution amended to provide for impeachment of public officials by the citizens without involving Congress, do away with the Federal Reserve banking system, and multiple other changes that are needed to get the United States back on track.

With all due respect Joe Hollinger, not a one of us pre911/prewar Bush supporters had a clue they were so deviant and unamerican. We’ve been had. Those crazy SOBs need to go…How? I really don’t care the method at this juncture.

Cheney is being, to use a phrase made famous in an Australian court, “being economical with the truth.” What he says is true, but it is not the whole truth.
Constitutionally, the office of VP is part of the legislative branch, not the executive branch. VP does not mean “assistant president” but “backup president.” Incapacity, death or resignation of the President means the VP takes over and only then is he in the executive branch. Until and unless that happens, the VP is firmly in the legislative branch because of his constitutional role (albeit a very minor one) in the Senate.
However, while the OFFICE of the VP is not part of the executive branch, because Cheney is a de facto part of the executive, as much (if not more) as any person bearing the title “Secretary” (as in Secretary of State), then Cheney the person IS part of the executive.

Dick Cheney is “King of all he surveys”, “Queen for a day”, and just generally “a Pain in the Royal ass”.
That aside, he has done a great job at trampling the constitution and being the only VP in history that has managed to usurp the power of the President.
What ever happened to the invisible VP?

When is this administration going to be held accountable for its wrong doings? You cant state one week that you recieve executive privileges and the next that you are exempt from them. WHY ARE THEY NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE*** This is pure unlawful activity… IMPEACH them both!

Follow the money. After 20 years as a Republican, I quit. Dick Cheneys arrogance as a “PUBLIC SERVANT” is unprecendented in my lifetime and an absolute discrace to America. His secrecy screams covert behavior- one must ask, what is he up to! If oversight is not pursued, the whole system is suspect. You should all be ashamed. Signed, a sad American.

Well, let’s give him the “President of the Senate” ONLY arrangement and have the Senate enact a law that says he MUST sit in his Senate chair whenever it’s in session and may NOT engage in any Executive duties, go on any trips, or attend any meetings except those authorized by the Senate until the President Is unable to be President and the VP has to take his place.
And unfund any office and staff he has not needed for his Senate duties.

The US is now the kingdom of King George and Prince Cheney
Long live the Who???
Bill

Legally and Constitutionaly, Cheney is correct, but the argument may be imposible to sustain politically. He is an elected Federal officer. He does not answer to the President, the President cannot hire or fire him or his staff. His only constitutional duties are legislaive (presiding over the Senate and the Electoral College) and judicial (presiding over impeachments of anyone except the President–Including his own impeachment, BTW).

So many of these posts are filled with blind hatred.
“IMPEACH!” -Bah. Absolutely blind hatred. Get real and get a life.

After six years on the job, Vice-President Cheney is questioning his job description. This may be the first significant instance of placing in doubt the U.S. Constitution by its own Vice-Presidency. Doubting the effectiveness of the Constitution in favor of a single job description may render more harm than good in the long run.

The really absurd part is the Cheney has claimed multiple times that he doesn’t have to answer questions that congress has due to executive privilege and has point blank said in those arguments that he is a member of the executive branch.

Americans have the leaaders they deserve. Unfortunately, The love of worldly things have lured the majority of my countrymen to allow themeselves to hand over anything and everything (including their rights)to demogogues who cry “the n&*%%s are coming,” or the “latinos are coming,” or most recently “the Muslims are coming.” The Congress nor the American people will stop the fascists that have taken over the government, because they don’t have the moral fortitude to do so. All of this rhetoric with no effective action is just a sympton of the denial of the Fall of the United States of America. Dick Cheney and George Bush will retire unbothered and will be somewhere fiddling as American Burns.

Federalist #68 puts the VP in the Executive

The real question is : What is he so afraid of them finding? Is there something he doesn’t want them to see?

President Bush is concerned about “his legacy” – well, here’s his chance to do something noteworthy for our country!!
Fire the VP NOW!!! Appoint Speaker Pelosi as interim VP and allow himself to WORK WITH HER!! ASSIST CONGRESS in their quest for truth and justice!! Those actions would be a start to getting us back on the right track. We’re committed to this war whether we like it or not and, I FIRMLY BELIEVE, my suggestions listed above would give us all a feeling of PRIDE IN THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT which is sadly LACKING!!! SLAP THE LIVING HELL out of Alberto Gonzales – he gives all Latinos a BAD NAME – just as Ann Coulter gives all Women a bad name!! Mr. President, I cannot believe you are so stupid as to believe you’ve done your absolute best for our great country. Now is you chance to establish a legacy for yourself!! You are correct, “History will judge” and it will judge that you’ve contaminated your family, past, present and future. Take steps now to insure that the Bush Family will go down in history as having a member of the family become a COURAGEOUS PRESIDENT for doing the right thing for America and the World – even if it isn’t the most popular thing to do!!
I pray you’ll have the wisdom to STAND UP AND BE COUNTED – God IS waiting, watching and listening.

Just a few more nails to go in the coffin that was once America.

Funny that this administration is mad at Putin for backing away from democracy in Russia, and yet they are doing it right here in the good ol’ USA. Won’t be surprised to hear Cheney announce that he is the natural successor to the President and therefore the 2008 presidential elections shall be abolished.

Take a deep breath and read the “news story” again. I see nothing indicating that Cheney made a claim he is not part of the exectutive branch. I see deliberately inflamatory, non-factual reporting.
Cheney’s office has simply made a decision to stand tough on a request for information from a politically motivated fisherman. Anyone with integrity would have done the same.
Bully’s and misinformation mongers are having their fun, at the expense of common sense.

Unlike most of the people who have written here, I took a moment and searched for the phrase “Vice President” in the constitution. I found that the only mention of duties was the legislative duty of President of the Senate. Though mentioned in the same sentence as the President in Article 2, the Vice President, is not stipulated to be a member of the executive branch.
Though it seems clear to me, I’d love to hear what the courts have to say on this one!

Politicians are destroying America, people wake up! Its time to hold these people responsible for their treasonous acts toward our country, starting with Bush and Chenney

I have a question, can anyone answer it. when The Worst of All Time, gwb and cheney leave office, can they be prosecuted. not that i think the dems. have the testical fortitude to do it of course. just wonderin?