Exclusive: Suicide Bomb Teams Sent to U.S., Europe
Large teams of newly trained suicide bombers are being sent to the United States and Europe, according to evidence contained on a new videotape obtained by the Blotter on ABCNews.com. Teams assigned to carry out attacks in the United States, Canada, Great Britain and Germany were introduced at an al Qaeda/Taliban training camp graduation ceremony held June 9. A Pakistani journalist was invited to attend and take pictures as some 300 recruits, including boys as young as 12, were supposedly sent off on their suicide missions. Photos: Inside an al Qaeda/Taliban ‘Graduation’ The tape shows Taliban military commander Mansoor Dadullah, whose brother was killed by the U.S. last month, introducing and congratulating each team as they stood. "These Americans, Canadians, British and Germans come here to Afghanistan from faraway places," Dadullah says on the tape. "Why shouldn’t we go after them?" The leader of the team assigned to attack Great Britain spoke in English. "So let me say something about why we are going, along with my team, for a suicide attack in Britain," he said. "Whether my colleagues, companions and Muslim brothers die today or tonight, every drop of our blood will invigorate the Muslim (unintelligible)." Video: Watch the Taliban’s ‘Graduation’ Ceremony U.S. intelligence officials described the event as another example of "an aggressive and sophisticated propaganda campaign." Others take it very seriously. "It doesn’t take too many who are willing to actually do it and be able to slip through the net and get into the United States or England and cause a lot of damage," said ABC News consultant Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism official. World News Video: Taliban ‘Graduates’ Heading West? Do you have a tip for Brian Ross and the Investigative Team?

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Nice going W.
Posted by: Rick | June 18, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
The fruits of our evil labors are coming to bear and now innocent civilians will likely pay for the mistakes made by the leadership (or lack thereof) of our country.
Posted by: Brandon | June 18, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
They were coming regardless what we did after 9/11.
Posted by: James | June 18, 2007, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Yeah, it is definitely our president’s fault, muslim extremists did not harbor any hatred towards the west before Bush took office. (sarcarsm…) Do some research before posting here.
Posted by: Noel | June 18, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Noel is right. Muslim extremists have been behind bombings a lot longer than Bush has been president. Do you people think they would stop if Bush pulled all our military out of the desert today? If you think so, you are not very educated as to the cause/effect that it takes for the extremists to plot such things as this. Instead of yelling at/against Bush, why not yell at/against the idiots who send these young children out to commit these missions?
Posted by: ARSailorMom | June 18, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
What are you saying, Noel? You mean there actually were Muslim extremists before Bush took office? Wow. That’s not what St. Cindy Sheehan told me!
Posted by: David | June 18, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
@ Noel – where have you been? My question is…why didn’t the recons paste the camp and light it up before the kiddy bombers left? Be PROACTIVE!
Posted by: Gerald | June 18, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Too bad we didn’t go after where the worst terrorists were instead of Iraq. Now we have more in Iraq AND more in Pakistan, etc.
Posted by: PLP | June 18, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
MI5 and MI6 are aware of homegrown terrorists who have recieved training in Afghanistan and Pakistan. At the last count 2000 individuals of Pakistani descent are being monitored.
Woodhill High Security Prison in Milton Keynes is currently full of these individuals awaiting trial.
There are also 2 juveniles who have recieved this training held at Maidstone Prison
UK security forces are currently on top of the situation, but we have to be lucky everytime. The enemy only has to be lucky once.
Today the Pakistani Minister of Religious Affairs called for Suicide bombings in the UK. With friends like that we don’t need to many enemies.
Posted by: Chris | June 18, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
These people have had it out for the US for a long time. This only the begining of a world war 3. The only way they’ll be happy is when the whole world blows up.
Posted by: CINDY | June 18, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Afghanistan is where we should have put most of our troops not Iraq. The White House wants to stop the war on terror but they put the troops in the wrong country. Remove the troops from Iraq put them in Afghanistan and get the job done once and for all.
Posted by: Nathan | June 18, 2007, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Of course there were NO suicide bombers before Bush took office. Don’t be silly. It’s all our fault! Everyone knows that.
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Propaganda? How can anyone tell the difference? No one took Bin Laden seriously, either. Time to take border security seriously, ya think?
Posted by: BJ | June 18, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
I bet you can’t wait for thatday, Jack.
Posted by: Will | June 18, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
We need more troops in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Both are breeding grounds for terrorist cells.
Posted by: ARSailorMom | June 18, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
RE: NOEL — “Yeah, it is definitely our president’s fault, muslim extremists did not harbor any hatred towards the west before Bush took office. (sarcarsm…) Do some research before posting here.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Posted by: Eric | June 18, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Andyin, I hope that is sarcasm I read in your statement.
Border security is a key to keeping our these people out. They need to closed, today. And anyone here illegally needs to be sent home, no amnesty, no government hand outs. Send them home and close the doors until these threats have at least lessened.
Posted by: ARSailorMom | June 18, 2007, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
I have always said that we, here in America, have been too lucky for too long to avoid the death squads that we see and hear about in the barbarian world. I truly believe that what happened at 9/11/2001 was only the tip of the iceberg for things to come. Maybe its time to prepare for the future. I mean life after death. Are you ready to meet your maker? The choice is yours. The trip is free to the Heaven but you have to purchase your tickets now. John 3:16.
Posted by: HANK46 | June 18, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Yeah it was. There is no one answer that is going to fix the pronblems in the east. don’t forget our president is an elected official and half of this country did elect him TWICE
Posted by: andyin75067 | June 18, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Just remember to thank the left-wing ACLU and those who hold liberal movie stars’ political stances above our own government and military leaders when these people are able to sneak into our country and kill innocent American citizens because it’s “not nice” to racially profile or tap phones or halt student visas.
Posted by: Noel | June 18, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Bush had nothing to do with the terrorists wanting to come here. They were here long before he was in office. They hate the Western Idological Influence thats put on their culture. They hate the commercialization of the western culture into their society. Many of these nut jobs are brought up in the religious schools over there and are fed hate by their Imans for years. The money for these schools come from other parts of the Middle East. Semi-stable middle eastern countries throw out their radicals where they move to Pakiastan and other countries without immigration control (hint). Those radicals propagate the hatred even more by wanting to live like they are in the 7th century. If they had their way everyone who was not a Muslim Extremist would have their head put on a stake in their front yard, even children – thats what we are up against. This is not just Bush’s problem, its all of ours. Don’t under-estimate them, they really want to kill you or anyone they can.
Posted by: Blonde Geek | June 18, 2007, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Word has it. They have been disguising themselves as Mexicans to sneak across the border.
Posted by: Jack | June 18, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
All the more reason to put up a fence between us and Mexico. All this PC crap has to stop as well. If the people who want to kill us are young Muslims, that’s who we should restrict from entering the US for any reason.
Posted by: Jerry | June 18, 2007, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Anyone who thinks that “we” are responsible for these pathetic death dealing nut jobs, is a person who argues his point with the certainty of a moron. I would suggest that we just bomb them back to the stone age but I honestly think that they are still there. There’s nothing much a civilized people can say about a group of sub humans who will strap bombs on their children and themselves because they think that God would be pleased. But there is something that a civilized people can and should do.
Posted by: orivon110 | June 18, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
I haven’t seen that one yet, andyin, that’s great!
Posted by: ARSailorMom | June 18, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Some of these nut jobs are going to get a hold of some real weapons of mass destruction (maybe even nukes if Iran has anything to say about it) and they WILL smuggle them into the U.S. If they get away with one they will bury it somewhere and keep smuggling them in until they figure they have enough or until they finally get caught, in either case they will then set them all off at once. Think about it, what if they get say 10 nukes into this country or 20….plant them in the 10 to 20 biggest cities……I believe this scenario will happen at some point in our not too distant future and I’m not sure we can do anything about it before it happens. After it happens will be left up to those of us who are still around I guess.
Posted by: awen | June 18, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Frankly, the average American could careless. A nuke could go off in DC and people would be more interested in what Parris Hilton is doing in jail. The world is at war and for most folks their attitude is, “So what… not interested.” It is a sorry state of affairs but true.
Posted by: Velvetjones | June 18, 2007, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Pakistan Has been fooling west from the begining playing a dual role,they have harboured trained and supported these militiants from the begining,i wonder why doesnt west understands pakistan and its establishment is responsible and will continue to promote islamic extremists.
Posted by: Mir Hsmmal | June 18, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
You know this may be a good time to build the wall promised to us in the 86 Kennedy bill. Mexico is a breeding ground for terrorism and a pipeline to undermine our security. If Bush would built it then the Islamofacists might not have an entry point.
Posted by: Stephen | June 18, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
I thought we were fighting them over there so we won’t fight them over here?
Everything the Bush neo-cons touch turns to lead.
Posted by: onetwoseek | June 18, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Sorry Orivon, but western imperialism in the mideast for the past couple of centuries are a big reason why they hate us over there. Sure, Wahhabism is a despicable death cult, but they’re not coming at us because we have a free frolicing fun country. They hate us because post-colonial rule we still stick our grubby fingers into the region. We’ve supported every secular government possible, and the biggest thorn of all, we support their most hated enemy Israel. So don’t fool yourself into thinking these big red targets were painted on our countries because we’re such swell lovely people. We’re now kicking a hornets’ nest that we’ve been tossing small rocks at for decades.
Posted by: aceshelman | June 18, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
If we would enforce the border we might actually have a chance of catching these people.
Posted by: Philip | June 18, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Don’t worry, we’re fighting them there so they won’t come here. Oh, eh wait…
Posted by: G Bush | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Once we start to question our government and the system of power we are all a part of, in my opinion, the terrorists are winning. They hate democracy and what we are, if we don’t have one vision about what to do and stand behind it 100%, they are getting what they want.
Posted by: Jeff | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
It didn’t matter what we did or do in the middle east. they are going to attack us no matter what. To those who say we should pull out of Iraq, if they can’t attack us there, there will be nothing left for them to do except attack us here in the United States.
Posted by: David | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I live in San Diego and have ridden the fence on my bike, we can’t keep uneducated peons out with that fence, a trained whacko we be over it and in the malls next week. Good luck all!
Posted by: frank wallace | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
kids young as twelve carrying out suicide missions are not full of hate and evil by nature. They are kids…..its the older radicals that teach this crap is who we need to be targeting
Posted by: andyinbd75067 | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Huh??? What about the 2001 Twin Towers, 1997 Fatwa by Osama, 1993 Trade Center attack, hi-jacked planes in the 70′s and 80′s remember Entebbe? The Israeli wars of the 60′s on and on back even before the Palestine riots of 1929 and the massacre of Jews at the wall.
Brian Ross and ABC must be pleased that their propaganda campaign has so fully expunged the historical data banks from the minds of their collective viewer/reader base.
I guess since history and an objective perspective of the facts are not in lockstep with the Ross/ABC agenda it would be best if every body just repeats after me. Terrorist didn’t exist before George W. Bush. No matter what it is it’s W’s fault. Blame Bush, Blame Bush, Blame Bush (come on everybody join in, its fun don’t think or learn your history just join in) Blame Bush, Blame Bush, if anyone disagrees with you bring out the ad hominem attacks and use your pejoratives. Call them a brain dead Fox watcher or a dirty neo-con (it doesn’t matter if you don’t know how to define a neo-con it sounds bad) Blame Bush, Blame Bush…Come on everybody…Blame Bush…
Posted by: Jay | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
WHOO HOO
Posted by: roland | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
It’s complete crap, why would the Taliban want photos of the prospective bombers published before they carried out their attacks? This is just propaganda.
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I don’t know about you guys, but I am tired of the CIA funding terrorist operations across the world. Its time we recognize that every time one of these “alerts” is released our governments are trying to prepare is for something evil they are planning and most of all they want us to live in FEAR!
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Blame George Bush? Oh, then why were these monsters in America for the Twin Towers when Bill was still the president? If what George Bush did in Iraq causes this type of thing, then what preceded 9-11? oH YEAH…CLINTON BOMBED IRAQ AND THE SUDAN…..
Posted by: Lance | June 18, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
So what? We will wait for them and then waste them. Sure we will loose a few, we will surely get them.
The key is not to panic like chickens.
Posted by: Navin | June 18, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Wake up America…….Close the USA Border !!!!!!!!
Bush and the Democrat Congress won’t do it !
Posted by: Keith | June 18, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
To blame W for any attacks is missing the point. We have had over 20 attacks on us before W was even President. They just want to kill us. There were more attacks on us under Clinton than the present administration. Get the facts, don’t be dumb.
Posted by: Thos Weatherby | June 18, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
The reasons we are being attacked my a SEGMENT of the Muslim world are:
1-Blind support of Israel, including the supply of weapons.
2- The presence of American troops in the Middle East.
And yes, if those 2 things were to change, I think there is a strong probability that we would no longer be a target.
Posted by: Sundance | June 18, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Even if mushroom clouds appear over every major city in America, the Left will still never stand up and fight. What they will do is stand up with their “white flags” and wave them until the point at which they get shot.
War is coming home, prepare or die.
Posted by: projektio | June 18, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
This report seems highly suspicious. Who is the supposed Pakistani journalist and is he working for the ISI to instill more faux terror. You believe everything you read? Anyone can stage any kind of photo op. Looks like another Paris Hilton moment. Yawn.
Posted by: Marc | June 18, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Think how many others there would be if we weren’t killing them off in Iraq and Afganistan. Thank the Israelis as well, they keep taking these miscreants out as well. Oh wait, it is G.W. Bush’s fault. Yeah, right.
Posted by: Tom | June 18, 2007, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Pffft. These brainwashed, child-killing pyschos will never make it anywhere near our homeland. Why? Becuase Americans are smarter now and can spot these islamofacist maniacs.
Posted by: randy | June 18, 2007, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Did anyone READ the article?
The bombers are from Afghanistan NOT IRAQ. They are bombing Germany too…or want to. Is Germany in Iraq?
They are bombing because “those countries are in Afghanistan”.
They would bomb even if we weren’t in Iraq. So once again, blame it on Bush (who I hate) rears its head. READ the article before commenting.
Posted by: brianb | June 18, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Just send Jack Bauer over to Afghanistan, then Pakistan and then Iraq. At the rate that he kills people, it should only take him about 2 years to wipe out most of the extremists. :)
Posted by: Brad | June 18, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
That doesn’t make sense!?!?!?!
We’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over there!!!!!
Posted by: dude | June 18, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Yes…The Taliban made the decision in 2007. Hey!!! What if we attack America? Abdul? What are you saying? We’ve never thought of that before…what a genius.
Posted by: Jay | June 18, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Bin Laden should have been priority one for this government after 911. The smoke and mirrors that the Bush administration used to fool the less intelligent majority of Americans that somehow Saddam and Iraq were responsible for the attack (carried out by our friends, the Saudis), and all of a sudden, capturing Bin Laden isn’t that important. The responsibility is ours for not critically thinking at that all important time, instead relying on the lies told by the current administration.
Posted by: Bee Lowrence | June 18, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
I question the timing, of course. This is timed to help the Bush Administration divert attention away from the Nifong disbarment, & NBC’s exclusive interviews with Prince Harry & William. Obviously.
Oh, and…there is no terrorist threat?
Posted by: Guy | June 18, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Oh my,
The loonies are out of the wards again!
It’s Bush again give us a break.
The congress that is in power today has brought this on to us. Oh, Wait the Dems will make nice and all will be fine again in Oz. Not to get worried. Oh,Wait they have already made nice to them so how can this be happening?
Posted by: Jeff | June 18, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Isn’t it interesting that Bush gets no credit what so ever… NONE… for thwarting numerous terror attacks in the US since 9/11… but as soon as (or even before as evidenced here) there is an attack… it will be Bush’s fault. Can somebody explain that to me?
Posted by: FRedStates.com | June 18, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Yes, the terrorists had their aim on us before Bush took office. Now however, the bulls eye has gotten way larger. As long as there is a strong US military presence in that region, there will be hatred towards the west. Bush exacerbated the whole situation by sending thousands of US troops to Iraq.
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
NOW what are the Dems going to do? How can they keep up the ‘hate Bush’ chant with people being blown up in Chicago? Too bad Reed and Pelosi didn’t take any time to plan for this contingency, seems they only have had time to try and undermine an already lame duck. God but these people are morons, putting themselves and their parties before the safty of the citizens who pay them to protect them.
Posted by: Seatalker | June 18, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Thank God we have Dubya.
Posted by: superchicken | June 18, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Oh no – the islamokazis are coming to my town!!
Where’s my duct tape?
Posted by: gil | June 18, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
So much for fighting them there or we’ll have to fight them at home; they’ve always been intending to come here after us anyway. Now there are more of them than before thanks to Bush’s War.
Think of it: 500,000 Iraqis dead due to the war and 4,000,000 who’ve had to leave their homes. That’s a lot of brothers, sisters, dads, and kids who have new reasons to hate us.
No surprise that some of them will try to come here.
Posted by: Splendid | June 18, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Everyone forgets that Clinton was in the White when they(terrorist)planted the first bomb and he did nothing. But those terrorist better watch out for the US citizens. Every other household in America has a gun or two.
Posted by: Monica | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
What a bunch of ignorant fools, that think that Bush started the fundamentalist wacko’s. If they haven’t attacked the US since 9/11 you can thank Bush, for holding them back. What about the Germans and the British and the Canadians! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
Posted by: Alex | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
What does Clarke mean by “slip through the net”. They can just walk across the border and do what they want.
Posted by: Dennis | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Well, its not like they can actually get into the country…
Posted by: Hank | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
President Bush will eventually be recognized for the selfless leadership he has shown. He never took polls to determine where he should take vacation. He hasn’t used slick political techniques, such as “triangulation”. He is truly a great president who will most likely replace the pretender “JFK” on the half-dollar someday. Those who attack him are simpletons, who are still throwing tantrums for the 2000 election.
Posted by: mazook | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Bin Laden funded/ordered attacks on US properties (US Emabssy in Nairobi, USS Cole, et al) during the Clinton presidency.
Posted by: z | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Nice going Clinton.
Posted by: MW | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
I really hate to bring you left wingers back to reality from your never never land-like perspective on reality, but 9/11 was planned during the Clinton administration so saying that fairy tale inspired psychopaths hate us because of W is simply proving how out of touch you are with reality (and the ability to put 2 and 2 together).
The nutjobs hated us before W (shock!!!) and they will hate us tomorrow – appeasement won’t solve the problem, they can smell weakness the way a shark smells blood in the water.
The ONLY way to defeat this threat against our way of life is to take it to the enemy, not to deny the war even exists in the first place (a la Edwards’ bumper sticker comment.)
It’s us or them…and the sooner you bleeding heart liberals wake up and join the real world, the sooner we can fight as a united front instead of berating W to get votes in 2008, weakening our overall position.
Posted by: Truth Ache | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Nice going W.
Posted by: Rick | Jun 18, 2007 5:06:01 PM
The fruits of our evil labors are coming to bear and now innocent civilians will likely pay for the mistakes made by the leadership (or lack thereof) of our country.
Posted by: Brandon | Jun 18, 2007 5:07:48 PM
ME: Are Rick and Brandon insane? Because of our declaring war on those who declared war on us BY THE SAME METHOD on 9/11, we are to blame for any jihadi suicide bombers that come to our lands and slaughter our sisters, brother, husbands wives and fellow citizens? That makes Beslan Russia’s fault, right? Is there no end to the equivocation some will apply to mass-murdering terrorists to justify the unjustifiable?
It takes insane people to run around the labyrinthes of their minds to come to the conclusion that suicide bombers and jihadis are what we deserve as a nation and a people. NO civilized society deserves that! It is the same kind of insanity Islamists use to burn down schools, beat and “honor kill” women, and to strap on explosives and blow up dozens of children, even MUSLIM children, in the name of justice and in the name of their god. And they do it to us, Rick and Brandon say, because we have it coming. We deserve it.
I say lobotomies should make a comeback.
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 18, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
History repeats it self from those who won’t learn from it – it was a long war against the Barbery Pirates who terrorized shipage for the civilized world – until the U.S. subdued them for the benefit of the entire civilized world. God helping we’ll thump these thugs again. Take heart countrymen – we must rise to meet the crises of our generation – as our forefathers did in there’s. It cost them much then, we must pay now for our children’s freedom. Ante Up!
Posted by: Leatherneck 74 | June 18, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
You don’t really believe this crock, do you? LMAO at all you scaredy-cats!
Posted by: Daniel Ryan | June 18, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Liberals don’t get it. These fanatics want to wipe us off the face of the earth. They have been after us since 1979 when they took over the Iranian embassy.
Posted by: Gary | June 18, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
People are proclaiming “the entire world is against us”. Riddle me this then. Why did Germany elect a more conservative, pro-American leader? Why did France elect a more conservative, pro-American leader? Why is Tony Blair’s replacement likely to be even more pro-American? A lot of the everyday people around the world have started to wake up to the fact that Muslim extremists are threatening their way of life.
Posted by: Matt Dooley | June 18, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Wow, Tony, put down the pipe and get a grip on reality.
Posted by: Seatalker | June 18, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Rick,
Islamic Terrorists have been blowing people up since the Carter Administration. To blame Bush shows your complete ignorance of history. Yes, Jimmy Carter was a president before he built house. At least he found something he is good @. Go back to commenting on the Paris Hilton.
Posted by: Ratdog | June 18, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Why I cannot believe how clueless the sheeple really are. Those of you who feel so confident that this is a muslim or islamic plot should go work for your government for a while. You will then see just how insidious this whole war on terror really is. There is no war on terror. This is manufactured and crafted by the US of A. We instigated it, purposefully and we fan the fires, purposefully. Innocent civilians are not a concern for those seeking to further an agenda.
Posted by: Bob Rogers | June 18, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
“I have always said that we, here in America, have been too lucky for too long to avoid the death squads that we see and hear about in the barbarian world”
Luck? I don’t think so. A lot of hard work by people dedicated to protecting their country is more likely. The left whines about how Bush is stomping all over our rights. Well, nobody has stomped on mine or anyone else I know. If we are too stupid or too tied to legal abstractions to keep ourselves alive then perhaps we are “just too dumb to live”. Far as I’m concerned, Bush still has a lot more leeway when it comes to stopping these mass murderers. I just hope that if they do get to us that the victims will be those who worried more about terrorists rights than they did about innocent Americans.
Posted by: Doug | June 18, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Believing this stuff will happen is like believing the Boogey Man is hiding under your bed.
Please give it a rest already.
By the way, W did not start it but he certainly didn’t make it any better – this is simply blowback from our (lack of) intelligence agencies.
Posted by: Tin Man | June 18, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
let’s make sure we don’t do any racial profiling though. we wouldn’t want to offend any of the muslim extremsists coming here to kill us.
Posted by: Cindy | June 18, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Thank you Bill Clinton!!! The consequences of bombing a baby asprin factory and a vacant terroist training camp. Remember that first World Trade Center bombing? Or the US embassy bombing? How about the Cole? If you had taken care of business then, we’d have finished this mess 4 years ago.
Posted by: Might Is Right | June 18, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
The war in Iraq has made us less safe: it has created more terrorists, wasted our military in a policing effort, killed thousands of our troops, and drained billions of our tax dollars.
Posted by: Jeff Dooley | June 18, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Bush lied americans died. no blood for oil!..idiots
Posted by: hp | June 18, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
These losers haven’t been able to hit us since 9/11. What a bunch of dolts. Stop wasting our time with these headlines. It’s been 6 years. Notify me when they actually succeed.
Posted by: someone special | June 18, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
this so called war could of been done as soon as it started,if rumy would of let the generals run it,where’s rumy and his buddys now?
Posted by: sacman | June 18, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Obvious going into Iraq without an adequate post war plan was short sighted. However to imply that Muslim estremists are going to attack us because of it is down right stupid. Don’t you remember that when 9-11 happened the US had not invaded Afghanistan or Iraq. More over if it hadn’t happened, we most likely never would have. The terrorist goal is not to get us out of the Middle East, if it was they never would have attacked us in the first place (the surest way to get America to get involved in your affairs is to attack her, just ask WWII Japan). Their goal is to force us to submit to their beliefs or kill us.
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Well, thank God our borders are secure! (sarcasm) The real culprits, aside from Muslims themselves, are foolish Western leaders who promote mass immigration and anti-Western multiculturalism. If these suicide bombers succeed, it is because our so-called ‘leaders’ have created the conditions that make these attacks possible in the first place. Western politicians are failing in their duty to defend our communities. It’s time for Westerners to stand up for ourselves.
Posted by: William | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Anyone who believes terrorism against the United States is new, is just plain ignorant. They were coming long before the President took office. Anyone remember the 1993 WTC bombing?, the attack on the USS Cole?, the embasy attacks? All of these went unaswered which proved to these extremists that the US would be weak.
Until the liberals and bleeding hearts who are afraid to hurt an innocent civilian in the protectin of our own wake up and allow the US to fight a war to WIN, then we are all doomed to the fate of the terrorists. They don’t care what you stand for, only that you are not Muslim. So get ready America, and others the worst I fear is yet to come! In the end, the blood of our own citizens will be on the hands of the anti war libs and bleeding hearts.
Read Rolands post, he is right on!
Posted by: Kory | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
actual sailor, you are really funny man. peshawar is where alexander got a good beating after conquering the whole world. you really think peshawar is safer than baghdad?
Posted by: dude | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
In the words of President Bush: BRING IT ON!
This is our generation’s cause.
Posted by: J.T. | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Anyone that thinks this is the result of our actions is ignorant and foolish. What about 9/11, the first bombing of the trade center, the uss cole, the embassy bombings, etc. What up from your pathetic stupor people. There are evil people in the world whether you like it or not and these people want nothing more than to slit your throat and bring down your country as you know it.
Posted by: Chris | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Time to lock down our borders and stop all of the BS politics about border security. DEMS and REPS need to get their freaking head out and get something done. (90% of politicians are just greedy and in need of a power trip.) It’s really sad…………..
Posted by: chaz | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Well, the one fact that can’t be cast aside is we were not discussing these sort of things prior to Mr. Bush becoming President. Sure there were consistent actions being taken by radical extremeist but, by and large we were doing what was necessary to track these individuals. Now – we’re talking in a very real since the possibility of a dirty bomb incident. Solution? now thats a word that seems to doesn’t have an equal in any of these discussions. The days are coming and now are when a man/woman will have to choose what is right and what is wrong because a major action will happen as a result of our “Outrage” – Physicologically – there will be a great need to justify.
Posted by: T | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
This country should accept the fact we can’t get in a large scale war right now because 1. Democrats don’t want war and 2. Republicans want war, but many of them don’t want to fight it. (like chicken hawks Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush)
Posted by: Uncle Sam | June 18, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
So, they are coming after us! Won’t they be delighted by the “loving welcome” they will receive from the liberals before they try to blow them to Kingdom Come, oops, wrong choice of words I should have said H – - ll !
Posted by: carol Havell | June 18, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Can’t blame “W” for these fanatical muslims doing their “God’s” work. How about blaming the suicide bombers for suicide bombing instead of blaming America first.
Posted by: Jason | June 18, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
This can’t be right. Terrorism is just a bumper sticker, isn’t it?
Posted by: Coop | June 18, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Look Jack when a country goes to war you are most certainly NOT doing it to make friends! This war is far from over. It will not be over when Bush leaves office or when the next President leaves office. We can cut and run from Iraq if you like but it is certain we will be returning to the region.
If the US completely surrendered to these radical Islamists before or after 9-11 they would still be trying to kill us. Get used to it…
Posted by: Osprey | June 18, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Bush was preoccupied with star wars, remember? He totally missed the boat. He was asleep on the job, taking more vacations than any president in history, ignoring intel briefings and warnings from the former Clinton administration while shoveling taxpayer money to his buddies in defense and big oil. Clinton actually tried to kill Bin Laden: Bush refused to use the troops to trap him at Tora Bora, and later said he didn’t think about him that much. Then, he lies through his teeth to attack a country that has never attacked us, to steal their oil… and we wonder why they hate us.
Bush is, by any definition, a war criminal.
Posted by: dave | June 18, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
there’s no such thing as scarry boogeymen terrorists
Posted by: him | June 18, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
“muslim extremists did not harbor any hatred towards the west before Bush took office. (sarcasm…) Do some research before posting here.”
Correct. Probably the most notable early attack in America by Muslims was the 1968 murder of RFK by Sirhan Sirhan.
KS
Posted by: Karen Schell | June 18, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
These bombers will likely attack the Western world when Syria/Lebanon/Gaza/Iran attacks Israel this summer.
Stay tuned.
Posted by: Pearl | June 18, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Churchill mentioned , ” A Gathering Storm,” refering to Hilter, we are now witnessing a gathering storm by islamic radicals.
Posted by: Viscount | June 18, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
It’s time to make them fear us more than they hate us!
Posted by: MajorCaliber | June 18, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
WE need to close all borders. No one in
and let everyone via mews braod casts that all illegalls have 30 day to getr out or suffer prison time.
Posted by: Gary | June 18, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Brian is such an alarmist…But then again, he works for ABC so it’s expected…
Posted by: Verny 57 | June 18, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Enough with all the handwringing – no American is responsible for the actions of crazed Wahabbists bent on suicide for glory. Despite their claims, they have no life, no hope and NO GOD! And the fact that they want to take out innocents only furthers the notion of their sick delusions towards those who don’t agree with their empty-headed ideology. The only alternative we face now is shoot first, and not bother to ask questions. Americans, pull your heads out of the sand and realize they hate you because you ARE Americans, not because of foreign policies or figureheads in power, and don’t think for a second that there was ever anything we could have done to appease their non-sensical demands! We’re not going to abandon Israel, we’re never going to agree with Medieval lectures from their leaders, so let’s just bring it on and just see how much of a stomach they really have for their own hypocritical, self-righteous vitriol.
Posted by: Bruce | June 18, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
They hate us for what we are…believers in Science, liberated women, rational, scientific thought. Bush and Blair are not to blame.
Posted by: Norm Valz | June 18, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
ARSailorMOM:
You actually do not realize that I’m on your side to an extent. But I know the deeper issue of this nation and the world. I know something a lot of folks will not admit. By the way, I am a United States Army Vet…..I know a little. The little I know is that bombs are not the answer!!!! Bullets will solve nothing. Violence and hatred produces more violence and hatred. Does anyone actually think that China and Russia would stand by and allow the U.S. to nuke a Muslim country? You say I’m living in the 50′s…Some of you guys are living in the 1940′s. Those Atomic bombs on Japan cannot be tolerated in this day and time. Wake up America!!!!! The only thing now that would save you is the Lord Jesus Christ…..and it starts by doing one thing: REPENT!!!!
Posted by: Tony | June 18, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Weakness is a provacation.
Posted by: Viscount | June 18, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
With the stringent border control and identifation controls that we now have in the West these islamo-luddites don’t stand a chance – do they?
Posted by: Grant | June 18, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
TO: brianb
RE: Doesn’t Matter
“They would bomb even if we weren’t in Iraq. So once again, blame it on Bush (who I hate) rears its head. READ the article before commenting.” — brianb
My comment applies no matter where the attack comes from.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Posted by: Chuck Pelto | June 18, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Yeah, lets rely on those rough, tough “chicken hawk” conservatives in the White House to keep our country safe.
Posted by: Art Freen | June 18, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
I am sick and tired of people, mostly Liberals, who claim that the world loved the USA before Bush took office or right after 9/11 and that President Bush, with his actions, destroyed this love the world felt for the USA.
Please people, stop being so ignorant. In the 1970s, Jimmy Carter traveled to Venezuela, his Presidential motorcade was spat upon and attacked by Venezuelans. Hmmm….Bush wasn’t around.
Did anyone travel to Europe during the Reagan, Bush I, or Clinton administration years? Europeans hated America then to. I saw huge protests during the Clinton years in France. Europeans love it in the sense that they all want to come here and benefit from it, but they hate it in the sense that they are jelouse at the fact that we are a superpower and their country is not. And let us not forget that for the world hating America, they certainly are desperate to come into the USA and make a living. Now, why would anyone who hates the USA, come here and make every effort, legal and illegal to get their family into the USA and make a decent living.
Furthermore, if ignorant people did some research they would be shocked to find that in European, Asian countries and in Australia pro-American governtments are winning government elections. If the world hated us, this wouldn’t be happening.
Let us not forget that 9/11 was planned FIVE YEARS BEFORE BUSH TOOK OFFICE!!!! please explain how this was Bush’s fault, eh? or how Bush contributed to this hate five years before he took office.
Let us also forget that Muslims have been carrying out terrorist attacks on Americans, on American soil and on American interests long before Bush took office.
I mean do explain, what did Bush do in 1993, when Clinton was President and the first WTC bombing happened. Do tell, those that hate Bush. Or how about in 1998 when Al Qaeda destroyed the two American embassies in Africa, what did Bush do? I seem to remember that in 1998 Clinton was in power, right? or how about the USS Cole, in 2000 who was in power? that’s right Clinton. Or how about in 1996 when Bin Laden declared war on the United States of America, who was in power then? EXACTLY!
so stop blaming Bush and blame the right people, the Islamic fundamentlist wackos, Al Qaeda, Hezzbollah, Hamas, etc. Blame these monsters for their hatred of anyone that is not aligned with their fundamentalist Islamic views.
Let us not forget that Muslims are the number one killers of Muslims.
Posted by: Carlos | June 18, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Bush is definitely to blame! I have confidential, as yet unconfirmed (but good enough for ABC), evidence that he actually was to blame for the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre by Islamic terrorists, too. It turns out that he was in a parallel time/space universe at that time, and was thus the reason for the Islamo-facists attacks on Munich. Acutally, Al Gore was in that same time/space universe too, but he was too busy running his father’s zinc mine to have done anything to stop Bush.
Posted by: scot samurai | June 18, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
This story is simply further evidence that the islamist threat persists and our efforts to thwart their evil intentions must continue.
Posted by: Bruce Davidson | June 18, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
How knuckle dragging stupid do you lefties have to be? Do you really believe that these Islamofacists just popped up after 1/20/01? And do you really think that they are going to go away peacefully on 1/20/09?
If you do, then make sure you don’t drool on your clean shirt.
Posted by: Buddy | June 18, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Once again, Chimpie and Cheney are emboldening the terrorists with their spectacular MILITARY FAILURE. God help us all…
Posted by: jpowalski | June 18, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Maybe if they come into the United States illegally, President Bush, John McCain, and Trent Lott will give them amnesty and special Z visas so they can blow up things that other Americans will not blow up.
Posted by: Northerner | June 18, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
If Clinton had not refused to capture, kill or take Bin Laden into custody when he was offered up, 9/11 and things such as this likely would have been headed off early on.
KS
Posted by: Karen Schell | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
What happened to the Libs in this country that made them believe History began with the Bush Administration?
Hello Moronic libs – Bin Laden’s fatwa in 1993 or in 7 B.B. (Before Bush) noted his intent was to wipe us out. It is woefully pathetic that the Libs can’t unite against these terrorists.
Posted by: Jason | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
So much for fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here.
Posted by: Ellen | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
FEAR SELLS AND WILL CONFUSE THOSE DUMBOS THAT WATCH FOXNEWS…..
SCARE EVERYONE…CODE ORANGE AND GETTING WORSE…YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO DIE…
HOW DUMB ARE REPUBLICANS?
Posted by: Al Lazzerman | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
There is no dangerous muslim terrorist group out to get you. The only people you have to fear are the CIA. They are the ones who want to kill you.
Posted by: Most of you are stupid | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
What is a terrorist? Is that the same as the people who wanted this war here and not over in the middle east? I think that is the Liberals idea of how this should work. Well you are getting your way. These killers are on the way!
Posted by: Patrick | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Bruce you said they hate us because we are “believers in Science, liberated women, rational, scientific thought”
Belief in science and reason are under attack here too from our own people…see Pat Robertson et al
Posted by: Reason | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
How many of you pro-war keyboard cowboys are writing your tough-talk missives from Tikrit or Kandahar right now? I’m guessing not many.
Get back to work.
Ahem,
JH
Posted by: jac holtzman | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
US policies in the Mideast suck and have helped keep repressive dictators in power for decades. We reap what we have sown. Bush is truely evil and people should stop apologizing for him and wake up. Our democracy is in peril.
Posted by: Raymond Savoie | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
We haven’t come back yet. They can’t follow us here if we haven’t come back yet. We are safe.
Posted by: Deliboy | June 18, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Don’t worry, US immigration and visa policies will welcome these guys into your country, and will probably provide some kind of economic incentives or assistance, to help them achieve their goals, ie., scholarships or teaching jobs. When these people do finally manage to pull off a major attack, don’t look at Iran, Syria, or any other country for blame. Blame your own government for allowing them to come here and organizations like the ACLU for protecting them from proper scrutiny.
Posted by: Eric | June 18, 2007, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
yeah, we just need more bible verses on here, christianity will save the world… hmm
Posted by: matt | June 18, 2007, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
I thought glorious leader dispatched the evil islaminufascist Saddam Bin Laden. Who is left to attack us?????
Ingrate Iraqis! Look at all we have done for them! Why would they want to kill us?
Posted by: Carl | June 18, 2007, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Sounds like another right wing media slight of hand trick. There must be something damaging to the White House in the news that is to be “lost” in the media shuffle because of our newly heightened paranoia about terrorism.
Maybe it is the missing e-mails . . .
Posted by: Tom | June 18, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Do no harm? The basic question for all the pro Bushies posting here is this. Are things better or worse in the middle east than they were six years ago-have we made it better or worse. The answer is totally self evident and I won’t go into all the other collateral harm we’ve suffered. Basically these chumps have taken two serious but manageable regional problems and turned them into a global debacle for US interests. Does anyone doubt that the next president, Republican or Democrat, is going to pull the plug on Iraq and do a U turn on US foreign policy. That says it all really.
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
You guys should totally argue about this, and as bitterly as you can.
You’ll also probably change each other’s minds if you argue loudly enough. People who hold diametrically opposing views will suddenly agree with you if you insult them and call them names.
Geopolitical issues men have worked for generations to tackle will probably be resolved right here in this very forum.
Posted by: Watney | June 18, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Another reason defeat the Immigration -Amnesty – Bill !!
How many of these murderous thugs are here illegally?
the Bush Adminstration and his liberal
allies have not secured the border and now we will pay the price !!!!
Posted by: milwolf | June 18, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
All I can say is: Arm yourselves. When the government cannot/will not protect the people, the people have an OBLIGATION (not only a right) to defend themselves. We will endure.
Posted by: Patriot | June 18, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Steven:
Your points sound very cogent, except for the fact that Muslim extremists also want to take back Spain. Talk about holding a grudge! They’re still ticked-off by Ferdinand and Isabella who took back Spain for the Spaniards just before they sent Columbus off to sea. So does it really matter that the West has had no colonies in the middle east for two generations? No one in his or her right mind should ever feel bad about not winning over hearts and minds like that! We’re dealing with a 14th century mind set, which includes how the maps were drawn way back then. Get real.
Posted by: Skip | June 18, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
I’d point out that an awful lot of those who decry the Iraq war as a distraction from the “real” terrorists in Afghanistan, truth be told, were against going into Afghanistan! Remember? I do, clearly.
Having just read Ricks’s worthy “Fiasco…” on the Iraq debacle, I acknowledge being wrong in having thought at the time the Iraq war to be a reasonable action, but most of the U.S. left betrays massive historic amnesia and intellectual dishonesty, many of them led by the mother of all sickos, Michael Moore, who lied big-time in pushing Richard Clarke’s Bush-bashing politicking when it was Clarke who gave the all-clear to send all the Bin Laden family out of the U.S. post-9/11 after *he* determined they were uninvolved).
Posted by: Miasma | June 18, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
And we were supposed to feel sympathy for the “school kids” recently killed in a missile attack on an Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan? Sounds like their soldiers are getting younger and younger. A few less members of the Future Terrorists of Afghanistan( FTA).
Posted by: larry Dean | June 18, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
The biggest difference between the Islamic extermists and the US is they have the ability to kill tens of thousands….the US has the ability to kill tens of millions. I fear their actions are going to bring that realization to them sooner than they can comprehend.
The sleeping tiger has grown a little lazy and fat…but when it is provoked its claws are just as sharp as before…
Posted by: RayW | June 18, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Cindy:
I guess that’s why even Al Gore said Saddam was involved with terrorism, eh?
Posted by: KenHorse | June 18, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Please remember the Liberal Mantras: the “Joys of Multiculturalism”, and that “Diversity is our Strength”. Keep our boarders wide open! And when they blow up the place, you can die with a smile on your face.
Posted by: OnMainStreet | June 18, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Lies… more lies.
Posted by: Hipster | June 18, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
This reminds me of Bush telling us about the weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. This is questionable propaganda by Bush, Neo cons and fellow travelers in an attempt to stampede the USA into a war with Iran.
Posted by: B Duncab | June 18, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
None of you have the slightest idea what you are talking about. Go to the CIA website and you’ll learn more than you want to know.
Posted by: Keith | June 18, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Blaming the president is childish. It shows a lack of understanding of these evil people. They are mad because we are fighting them. It’s a stirred up hornet’s nest. We MUST secure our borders now.
Posted by: Gene | June 18, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Maybe now this out of control Congress lead by this dim witted President may reconsider this ridiculous amnesty bill that they are trying to shove down the throats of the American people.
Congress should be held in contempt when this evil occurs which it will due to their dereliction of duty to uphold their oath of office.
Posted by: Robert Sharpe | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
What’s wrong with this picture:
Americans go to the Middle East and bomb the hell out of the place.
Arabs then want to go to America to return the favor, and Americans are shocked, shocked that anyone would dream up such a dastardly act.
Posted by: uberthinker | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
…that’s right you guys…. we have NOTHING to do with all this trouble…. I mean … well … besides the CIA assasination of Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh in1953 and installation of the Shah …. okay okay ..
.. then there was the CIA’s pal Saddam Hussein, who was put in jail, “somehow escaped” and then in the 80′s with Rummy’s help, aquired anthrax, brucella melitensis, clostridium perfringens (gas gangrene), as well as chemical warfare agent precursors, chemical warfare agent production facility plans and technical drawings, chemical warfare filling equipment, biological warfare-related materials, missile fabrication equipment and missile system guidance equipment…. despite the fact he gassed the town of Halabja… don’t pay attention to that you guys…..
…and the CIA’s boy, Osama Bin Laden and his CIA trained and armed Mujahadeen …. I mean we’ll just use them, and dump em, when we don’t need em. What’s the harm in that?
… so what about the CIA’s boy Manuel Noriega in Panama…. Oh wait…. that’s right…. later we invaded Panama, deposed him, and then gave away the Canal to the Chinese…
…. (forget the other numerous “hot” operations of the past, AND present. They are NONE of YOUR business! Got it?)
Those damn Muslims hate us for our freedoms, and our way of life. (I’m sure they just forgot about all the other stuff we’ve done, aren’t you?)
Posted by: DJ | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Curious that a post that ought to worry us and get some serious thought ends up with the folks on the left versus the folks on the right and lots of namecalling from both sides…nice going. That settles everything.
Posted by: david still | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Why do they hate us? Because we are rich and free? Or because it is our foreign policy to prop up totalitarian dictators that will sell us oil at less than the market value? When the CIA trained and funded secret police of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or for 25 years before the coup of Iran kidnap people in the night that disagree with the American backed regime…who should they blame for that?
Americans are not at fault, American policy makers are. The simple fact of what motivates the terrorists to hate us is that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year ensuring that they can not be free to question their governments.
When American troops installed the Shah in Iran it was at the cost of a democratically elected Prime Minister, not a mullah, but since the Shah had the secular opposition executed there was nothing left but a religious one to over throw him.
Our interventionist foreign policy breeds hate, not our way of life here at home.
Posted by: Historian | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Whats all this talk about muslim extremists!!! Shouldn’t we be more concerned about the welfare of Paris Hilton.
Posted by: Sarah Tice | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
… terrorist are MAD at GW because of global warming …it has nothing at all to do with religon.
Posted by: O | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
So it’s W’s fault for 9/11? And for Muslim extremism.
Wake up America. This is the enemy we are talking about, extremists who want to kill us and our way of living. And all we hear is Iraq bad from the media. If we don’t take care of the terrorists now and wipe them off the face of the earth, every single one of them, our pain will be even greater.
Unbelievable. Go ahead and elect Hillary, then I’ll move to Canada.
Posted by: Dumbfounded | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Nice going Pelosi, Reid, et. al.
Posted by: Darren | June 18, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
WHAT?!?!
I thought if we fight them over-there, we don’t have to fight them here!!!
RIGHT???
Posted by: Rotary | June 18, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Hmmm, I wonder what would be easier, to train and smuggle 300 people into foreign countries, or make a video…
Posted by: Tim | June 18, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
@Noel: And if you think that Bush hasn’t made it worse by his actions then YOU aren’t very well educated.
Posted by: JCK | June 18, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
If the aim of terrorists is to instill terror in Americans and disrupt our natural way of life, then it appears from what is being said here that they are succeeding gloriously. Mike is right. This video is just meant to scare you. if you let it scare you, they win. Period. Let the CIA and the Intelligence community do their jobs. They know what they’re doing, they won’t let them get you. Even if they are funding terrorist operations around the world, they won’t let americans get hurt if they can do anything about it.
Btw, if you really believe at this point that Isalmic terrorism is all the Arab’s fault, you are completely out of your mind and totally out of touch with the reality of the situation in the Middle East. You want some research? Look up what Britain and the U.S. did to Iran by installing a puppet Shah, undermining their previously elected parliament because they weren’t giving the West the deal on oil that they wanted. And now we run around the Middle East promoting democracy as the silver bullet to the radical extremism that rose in the first place because America screwed Iran out of profit share in its own natural resources? Seriously?
Think. Rational logic. Go ahead, hate the terrorists for hating America, and there is no doubt that they ought to be destroyed for the good of Western civilization, but lets remember a couple things: like that not all Arabs and Muslims (not always the same thing y’all) are bin Ladin sympathizers and we aren’t infallible and perfect just because we say so.
Stop saying crazy immature, backwards stuff like they’ll “attack us no matter what”. This paranoid loony-toon Dr. Strangelove talk all over the place about Islam is really too absurd to be taken seriously and should stop.
Posted by: Crizza | June 18, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
W?
I thought it was all because of the Queen and Salman Rushdie?
Posted by: HTuttle | June 18, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
I can see you people have way,way,WAY too much time on your hands
Posted by: Mark E. | June 18, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
All you Bush supporters who absolve Bush of responsibility for this: man up. Except what you’ve put in motion. Are you saying he’s *helped* the situation by what he’s done in the Middle East in the last 6 years?
Posted by: Robustus | June 18, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
This is all Bush’s fault…oh wait…our embassies were bombed in Africa while Clinton was in office…along with the world trade center (in the 90s). We need to continue on the offensive against these nutheads. They want to destroy civilization and bring us back to the dark ages.
Posted by: DaveR | June 18, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
God help us all.
Posted by: Riley | June 18, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Art Freen,
I am sure that you went after President Clinton during the 1990s when he was talking tough and sending our troops to fight in foreign nations, right?
I mean given that Clinton not only didn’t serve, but the coward ran away from the USA to avoid the draft.
I am sure that if Hillary, Obama, or any of the other Democratic Presidential candidates, who none have served in the military, get elected you will speak about them as chicken hawks when they send our troops to fight, right?
and let us not forget that President Bush served in the Air National Guard, do you know how many Air national guardsmen died during Vietnam? Stop dishonoring these individuals by claiming that anyone that served in the Air National Guard during Vietnam was a chicken hawk.
It never ceases to amaze me how poorly educated and informed the hate-Bush, hate-America crowd is.
Posted by: Carlos | June 18, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
To quote Christopher Hitchens:
“RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING”
Posted by: SmaterThanYou | June 18, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
The problem in our world is religious extremists, period. The vast majority of muslims don’t want the U.S. destroyed, and I think the vast majority of Christians don’t want muslim nations destroyed.
The problem here is George Bush. By ignoring Clinton’s and Berger’s advice about UBL, by attacking Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, and by trying to steal Iraqi oil for Exxon Mobil, BP, and Shell, Bush is turning the entire muslim world (yes, even the moderate nations who were our allies) against us.
Every American should do everything in their power to stop Bush before he sets off WW III with an attack on Iran. Don’t let George Bush and his crazy born-again pseudo-Christian crap bring about armageddon.
Posted by: Mitch | June 18, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
oops. or a little cuban boy. i think we’re safe if those same clintonians are on the job there at DOJ. they’re lifers. exec admins may come and go, but those hardcores remain forEVER.
Posted by: fred | June 18, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Well you tell me Mr. Seatalker:
What in the world has the U.S. military accomplished in Iraq?
WHAT!!!!!!!???????
If you think war is the answer, then suit up buddy!!!! Stop smoking whatever you are smoking and join the Marines and stop talking so much….
I know the answer to this problem….but noone seems to listen and/or understand……..
Posted by: Tony | June 18, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
WHAT?!?!?!
I thought if we fight them there, then we don’t have to fight them here!!!
RIGHT????
Posted by: RUSTY | June 18, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
The Bush administration ignored warnings before 911. Example: the PDB of August 6, 2001, saying that “bin laden determined to attack within the united states”. There were also other warnings of highjacked planes crashing into buildings including the World Trade center. They better do their job this time and listen to the warnings.
Posted by: larua | June 18, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Be very scared, be afraid… coming to our shores… soon…… yaddity yaddity…. getting ready for elections… further scaring the sheep….. Baaa
Posted by: blake89 | June 18, 2007, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
@Noel…i thought the whole point of us fighting them over there was so they wouldn’t come over here. Guess that isn’t working so well. Now that our military is over there they pretty much have a free reign over here. Way to go Bush and co.
Posted by: rlea | June 18, 2007, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
There is no dangerous muslim terrorist group out to get you. The only people you have to fear are the CIA. They are the ones who want to kill you.
Posted by: Most of you are stupid | Jun 18, 2007 6:11:32 PM
uh, dude, trust me, IF they wanted to, you’d be gone by now. and so would this post. you’re of no consequence to anyone apparently. rest easy.
Posted by: fred | June 18, 2007, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
But were fighting them there. How can they come here?
Uh Oh… Bush may have to rethink his strategy.
Posted by: Adam | June 18, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Bryan:
Your stupid comments are the reason this country is in this mess now……..and you still have not learn.
Shame on you….
Posted by: Tony | June 18, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
your trendy anti-american comments are not needed. it makes me sick how many of you don’t support the american ideals anymore. if you don’t like the united states go move to afghanistan and live.
Posted by: Ryan | June 18, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
No one even mentions all of the security enhancement since 911. I guess that won’t stop a bunch of low to no income suicide bombers from coming here on commercial airliners. How does anyone posting here know if this story is true or if it is just a way to scare the public into accepting a particular agenda of someone behind a curtain? No one knows, so be careful before you buy into this global terror crap. Read history. False flag terror has been a strategy of governments for thousands of years. Scare the crap out of people until they give you full control.
We are Americans, why are we scared?
Posted by: SH | June 18, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
George Dumbya give up all your money, what did you pay for your computer, you should have used that money for the poor. If money has no value to you sell everything and move away from here. After all i am in need of your money, I have 2 kids in college who has to pay their own way, while other people from other countries use our tax dollars to get a free education. But you don’t hear me complaining.
Posted by: Monica | June 18, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Thank God for George Bush
Posted by: gman | June 18, 2007, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Amen MajorCaliber!
Posted by: BJ | June 18, 2007, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
We’re going to fight them over there so that we can fight them over here later..
Posted by: Action Reaction | June 18, 2007, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Sounds like we better get busy with that fence our government refuses to build.
Posted by: Brad | June 18, 2007, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Yeah it is all our fault… and not the fact that these people are seriously twisted?
Latest quote from a elected official…
A Pakistan Cabinet minister has said the awarding of a knighthood to author Salman Rushdie provided a justification for suicide attacks.
Posted by: Eugene | June 18, 2007, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Its weird how so many blame GWBush for his response to the 9/11 attacks. Do they really think if the US had done nothing to respond to the murder of thousands of Americans on American soil there would have been no further attacks on America? It is a farcical view, completely misconstruing cause and effect.
Posted by: martin k | June 18, 2007, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Wow, a video surfaces claiming that terrorists have just “graduated” and are coming to blow up a town near you (true or not, who knows?), and who becomes the main target of invective on this website? Why “the liberals,” of course. You dead-ender 28%er Bush supporters are amazing.
Posted by: Scott | June 18, 2007, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Thanks Mr and Mrs Clinton for not nipping this in the bud when you had the chance. and now mrs clinton wants to be president??? ha ha ha i wouldn’t want her to be the president of my local PTA!!!
Posted by: American Girl | June 18, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
I say we do nothing. Harry Reid already said the war is lost.. So, I guess we have absolutely no hope.
Posted by: Robert | June 18, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
“able to slip through the net and get into the United States”
WHAT NET? PEOPLE ARE STREAMING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN BORDER AS I WRITE THIS.
Posted by: STX | June 18, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Extemist muslims hate the west – long before W…stop being so ignorant and look at Israel’s situation
Posted by: David | June 18, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
To RayW.
Al Gore said that in 2000 while running for President, not in 2007 when all the facts are now in.
Posted by: RLS | June 18, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
I love all the people on here blaming Bush, as if Al Qaeda and their allies weren’t training to attack us before Bush ever came along. The 1990s was the heyday of Al Qaeda recruiting and when they became their most numerous and ferocious–and we weren’t doing a thing about terrorism then. Give up the battered wives syndrome mentality that they “have to hit us because we make them mad.” So are you saying we shouldn’t be fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan? because that’s where these people talked about in the story are coming from, not Iraq. They’d be trying to hit us had Bush done like Clinton and sat in the White House sucking his thumb as a response to terrorism. Get over the simple-minded “Blame Bush for everything bad that happens in the world” mentality and just realize there are evil people out there who hate America no matter who is president and no matter what we do. They hate us for who we are and what we stand in the way of our doing, not because we show some backbone and stand up to them.
Posted by: Malex130 | June 18, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Anyone who thinks this was brought about by the current administration is either delusional or a moron. The attacks against the west have been well documented for 20 + years. I’m more scared of the haters in this country who enable these thugs than these weasels themselves. Wake up.
Posted by: steve | June 18, 2007, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Anybody remember Jimma (Carter)? That was the fulcrum in history. How to end the war? Simple – take away funding … FROM THE ENEMY! Face it, the only item they have is OIL. If our oil demand were to drop 25% the Middle east would go bankrupt inside of a year. Same for Venezuala. All of this “without a single shot being fired”. The opposite happened with Jimma – our economy got stood on its head from oil. So what did the liberals do? No Nukes!! So now we have “an energy problem”. Solve the “energy problem” and be richer and more liked than even Bill Gates! Oil is a GREAT thing and we need it BUT we need domestic sources of oil and alternate fuels NOW in order to bankrupt these nuts back to the stone age where they came from. Otherwise as a nation we will basically be indirectly funding them to hate us and yes, attack and kill us. All we are doing now is trying to stave off “the Visagoth Hoardes” long enough to find energy solutions. Like history as shown, we could be at this for hundreds of years UNLESS we bankrupt them and use $$$$ to bribe the weak ones to give up their leaders.
Posted by: JHENDRIXFAN | June 18, 2007, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
I am so sick of the “Why Do They Hate Us?” question. The French hate us too, but the worst they’ve done is honor Jerry Lewis and Michael Moore.
The fact is, these Islamists hate EVERYBODY! They hate the Thai Buddhists, the Phillipine Catholics, and even fellow Muslims in Algeria, Morocco, Afghanistan, Iraq and now even in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip.
My response? I hate them, too. As I hated the Nazis and Imperial Japanese for what they did and tried to do. So
for you morons coming out here trying to portray the US as Darth Vader’s Empire and terrorist jihadis as Luke Skywalker, you have serious mental and self-preservation problems.
Sometimes a megalomaniac fascist is just a megalomaniac fascist. What had the Jews done to Germany to deserve extermination? What had the Koreans done to the Japanese to deserve their enslavement to them?
Why do you think bin Laden blew up the ancient Buddhist statues in Bamiyan, Afghanistan in 2000? Because they were infidels occupying a holy land? NO! Because he could not tolerate their existence, as he cannot tolerate ours.
People better wake up before it’s too late. They hate us no matter what we do. They dress their two-year-olds in suicide vests for kindergarten graduation, for Chrissake. How sick is that? This is not a clash of civilizations. This a clash between civilization and barbarity. Which side are you on?
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 18, 2007, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
They are sending their terror teams to the US and Great Britain just in time for “07/07/07″. Doesn’t anyone think that has significance? It is THE one chance to effect a willful date/event that everyone will remember forever, more so than “9/11″. 777, MORE than the mark of the beast (666). Lucky number 7. And if they are sending nukes then in will most certainly be more than one.
Posted by: Lloyd | June 18, 2007, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
You think Muslim Extremism is on the rise because of Bush, go ask any one in India. “No other country in this world is raped and ravaged by Muslim Extremism than India”. They did it for 820 Years from 1000AD and they are still doing it now
Posted by: Chad | June 18, 2007, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Well, there goes bush’s “fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here” BS. Is there anything this moron can’t screw-up?
Posted by: Com-n-sense | June 18, 2007, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
hey noel-
would that be the aclu that backed rush limbaugh through his recent drug ordeal?
and is fred thompson a liberal movie star?
so you’re against them until you’re for them, if i’m reading you correctly.
radical islam, like radical christianity, doesn’t happen in a vacuum. a complete lack of rationality coupled with spiritual leaders screaming THEY ARE OUT TO GET YOU will turn anyone into a terrorist. the target of the terrorism is the one who has drawn the most ire of the irrational radicalist. abortion clinic, anyone? there’s a war on christianity, didn’t you hear?
60 (and more) years of pillaging the middle east for oil, anyone?
the freaks are winning and rationality is the victim. our government is trading in fear, and too many people are buying.
Posted by: lonesomerobot | June 18, 2007, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
@ Sundance, who says our “blind” support for Israel and the presence of US military in the ME causes all this –
It’s Israel’s fault two rival Muslim groups (Hamas and Fatah) are executing each other’s leaders in Southern Lebanon right now?
That’s just for starters and a current example. Read some history on the conflict.
And the American military in the ME is causing the problem too and should be withdrawn to bring peace?
You mean the US military’s presence in Korea, Japan, Canada, Iceland, Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Britain, and a slew of other countries where US forces are stationed causes war?
Wow.
Maybe looking at the ideology of those who are responsible for the vast majority of all terrorist attacks in the last 30 years would learn ya somethin’. There is that hope.
Posted by: 65DropTop | June 18, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Brandon,
There were more attacks on US assets around the world during the Clinton years than there has been during the last 6 years. We are only being attacked in Iraq and Afghanistan at this time, so saying that we are casuing the violence is ridiculous. We are doing what needs to be done, fighting this in their home and not ours. I could care less what people around the world think about us as long as I don’t have to worry about my kids everytime they step outside the door. Look what happens everytime Israel offers peace to the extremist.
Posted by: MARK | June 18, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Someone remind me how many of the 9/11 bombers came across the Mexican border. That’s right: ZERO.
Now remind me how many of the Oklahoma City terrorists came from south of the Rio Grande. Right again: ZERO.
Finally, fill me in on how many Guantanamo detainees, enemy combatants, suicide bombers or convicted terrorists snuch into the U.S. from Mexico. Did you say ZERO? You’re right!
All you morons who claim that terrorist hysteria is a reason to “close the border and round up illegals” are full of crap. You’re bigots, plain and simple. If you really want to fight against terrorists, you should enlist to fight in Iraq. Otherwise, you’re nothing more than ignorant cowards
Posted by: Gurldoggie | June 18, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
news flash for the naive poster about putting iraq troops into afghanistan, the taliban did not regroup in afghanistan. they regrouped in pakistan, are you then suggesting we invade a sovereign nation? maybe overthrow pakistan? the troops in afghanistan have already disassembled the much vaunted non-spring offensive that was supposed to happen by the taliban.
Posted by: bmili | June 18, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Why do they hate us? Because we are rich and free? Or because it is our foreign policy to prop up totalitarian dictators that will sell us oil at less than the market value? When the CIA trained and funded secret police of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or for 25 years before the coup of Iran kidnap people in the night that disagree with the American backed regime…who should they blame for that?
Americans are not at fault, American policy makers are. The simple fact of what motivates the terrorists to hate us is that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year ensuring that they can not be free to question their governments.
When American troops installed the Shah in Iran it was at the cost of a democratically elected Prime Minister, not a mullah, but since the Shah had the secular opposition executed there was nothing left but a religious one to over throw him.
Our interventionist foreign policy breeds hate, not our way of life here at home.
Posted by: Historian | June 18, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
well, at least we got a good look at a couple of them….if you see any of these unfreindly little fellows around contact the fbi.
Posted by: gary | June 18, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Please, please, please….start training in our law enforcement in Israeli behavior profiling. We will never catch terrorists with video cameras; we’ll only get sad video after-the-fact. Identifying suspicious behavior 3 and 4 steps up the attack chain (during dry run, recon, etc.) is one of the most realistic approaches to our security problems.
Posted by: chris | June 18, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
If you wonder why we are in the situation we are in now, don’t look only at George Bush. It is the fault of the idiots who post on this site, and their ilk, and elected him. I have never heard such complete stupidity in all my life.
Point One: George “Alright, you’ve covered your ass now” Bush ignored warnings about 9/11, and could have prevented it. Point Two: Hatred harbored by extremist groups in the Mid-East has spread like wild-fire, thanks to George Bush’s false wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Point Three: George “the Bonehead” Bush’s total support for Israel is like pouring gasoline on a fire in the Middle East. Point Four: It has been almost six years, SIX YEARS, since 9/11, and our borders are no safer than they ever were. Why? Because our billions and billions of tax dollars are not going to beefing up security here. It is going to “spreading democracy” in Iraq, and making George “I spent the Vietnam War in the ‘reserves’” Bush feel like a man by making his friends richer.
So those of you who are running around in a panic now, look in the mirror for the person who is to blame for the current situation.
Posted by: Sandy | June 18, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Yea. Let’s make sure we don’t enforce border security.
Posted by: rick | June 18, 2007, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
To the ever-incorrect fellow named Jack:
When will you liberals ever be intellectually honest about Iraq? False pretenses? Every one of the reasons for going into Iraq has panned out. They have found over 500 instances of weaponized bio/chem weapons. Al Qaeda WAS already in Iraq. There are tapes and documents from the Saddam regime that prove he was playing a shell game with the weapons inspectors. In fact, David Kaye, the last idiot in charge of that fiasco, told his people to ignore documents and concentrate of finding actual weapons, which were moved, hidden or destroyed, given the fact that, thanks to the idiot democRats and the UN, Iraq had 18 months to do something about it.
There were 3 separate hearing held on the subject of Iraq. Two by our Congress and one by the Brits. In all three cases they established that NO ONE lied about WMD or “sexed up” the intelligence. Guys like you, who pay too much attention to the agenda driven media, don’t bother to find all the facts so you don’t have enough information to make an intelligent assessment of the situation.
Posted by: Jarhead68 | June 18, 2007, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Yep. Because W did that. Come on, these people are making their own choices on their own.
Posted by: Mark M. | June 18, 2007, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
This is just AQ Propaganda/psy ops. You’re doing exactly what they want you to do – get all spun up. That’s what terrorists do.
By the way, have you ever considered that your political infighting is exactly what they want?
Posted by: Steve | June 18, 2007, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
The funny thing is, there are people right now in the middle east, typing the exact same hateful, ignorant things about westerners and the US. I bet most of you didn’t realize you are two peas in a pod with the people who support islamic extremism and their hate for anyone different than them. I’m sure God supports everything you are advocating (death). The overriding theme on this thread is fear. Whatever happened to courage?
Posted by: Alan | June 18, 2007, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
While all of you idiots are sitting here arguing over whose fault it is, or why is this happening, etc., you have suicide bombers preparing to attack. Regardless of what happened in the past or who is at fault is irrevelant. We need to deal with this problem, now! Repubican or Democrat, Liberal or conservative, for or against Islam, we will all be dead just the same if we take no action.
Posted by: Justin | June 18, 2007, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
If the US government just left other countries alone and kept the US military where it belongs – at home defending the country – we would not have these people coming after the US on bombing missions. As the terrorists say themselves – they are going after the countries that come after them.
Posted by: Mark | June 18, 2007, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Hey George? Where’s Bin Laden?
Worst President. Ever.
Posted by: JoJoJones | June 18, 2007, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Gee, I wonder what LEAD to 9-11? the Bush attackers, always with blinders on…always, want you to believe that things are WORST now. But, what lead us to 9-11? Hummmmm…….it MUST have been something WE did (or Billy Bob), right? All those terrible decision BEFORE Bush, right? I’m just using YOUR logic.
Could anyone have hated us MORE prior to 9-11? Perhaps, we should have had a nuclear incident on 9-11…..that would have undercut the inevitable nonsense that we’ll have to bear (let’s assume a nuclear incident in 2015) from the idiots who will yell in the future, “See, Bush’s policies 10 years ago are to blame for a nuclear of attack on US soil!”. You can count on this argument within 1 week after the first nuclear incident. (I’m predicting 2 to 3 bombs simultaneously….different cities or strategic targets….on same day). But who cares, as long as Bush is around to blame.
Gee, and I thought people like the 9-11 fliers, didn’t actually HAVE to commit acts of extreme violence against non-combantants (read: civilians).
What a jerk am I!
Obviously, the way to prevent more attacks on US soil, is to back out of Iraq immediately. This will pacify Al-Qaeda and we can then go back to our nihilistic consumer gorging peaceful days. I just can’t wait!
Posted by: David Frank | June 18, 2007, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Did they play Pomp and Circumstance at the ceremony?
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
I always find it amazing what short term memory we here in the USA have. Remember the lives of 9-11?? I ponder to think if we had not gone after the radicals that took pride in the bombings of 9-11 where would we be today…..To the families of the fallen heroes, may God give you a special blessing. My heart truly believes that if we had not gone there, they would be here in a far greater number today…If the story is true, they are on the “march again” to harm us…Time will tell. Then who will everyone blame???
Posted by: grannyk | June 18, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
This is a lie. If suicide bombers are coming to America, they were sent by the CIA. This is definitely fear mongering by the globalists and we are very close to martial law in America. If bombs go off in the United States, they will be American explosives set by black ops people from the American government. Be very afraid.
Posted by: john doe | June 18, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
They better not hurt Paris Hilton!
Posted by: grit jones | June 18, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
the barbarians are at the gates
Posted by: Americano | June 18, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Glad we’ve got great border security – and an air-tight immigration policy –NOT!
Posted by: Dave | June 18, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
this is becoming a weekly event. ABC news pumping out some BS fear propaganda. i’m sure giuliani is salivating. are we code red yet? hahahhaha…what a joke.
i will admint it is amusing reading the “sheep” comments. some of you are acting like the bombs have already gone off.
Posted by: pack | June 18, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Interesting. Considering Afghanistan is one of the poorest nations on earth, I wonder how they’re planning to fly, house, support, and conceal these “300″ recruits in countries all over the world. Sounds more like wishful thinking or a staged propaganda event for benefit of the cameras, whose footage was conveniently leaked to the West. Hmm, wasn’t there a film that came out not too long ago, and what was its name — 300? I’m sure the Bush administration was all too happy to make help make certain this footage would be leaked to the western media. How better to keep the American population enslaved than to keep them in fear?
Posted by: Mark | June 18, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
What will the liberals use as an excuse when Bush is out of office? You guys secretely love having him in there so you can have your little rallies, and Bush bashing, and media friendly jokes. Face it, the problems over seas are there if Bush is in office or not. Don’t think that Obama or Clinton get elected and all of a sudden the world changes. Come off the anti-Bush attitude. Remember, not too many war-time presidents have been thought highly of. Don’t forget to comment on how your congress is divided within itself, and getting nothing accomplished. We have a problem in the middle east. Let our leaders, do just that…. Lead our Country.
Posted by: Josh | June 18, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I always find it amazing what short term memory we here in the USA have. Remember the lives of 9-11?? I ponder to think if we had not gone after the radicals that took pride in the bombings of 9-11 where would we be today…..To the families of the fallen heroes, may God give you a special blessing. My heart truly believes that if we had not gone there, they would be here in a far greater number today…If the story is true, they are on the “march again” to harm us…Time will tell. Then who will everyone blame???
Posted by: grannyk | June 18, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
those of you who say we didn’t create radical islam need to read a book. Iran, 1953. Look it up. We removed the democratically elected leader of Iran, and replaced him with the Shah, a brutal dictator. Why? Because Iran wanted to nationalize their OWN natural resources so that foreign comapanies, mainly BP, would not take all of the profit away from their people. The backlash was the formation of the radical Shiite system in Iran and Ayatollah Khomeini.
War and giving away our civil liberties is not the answer to our problems. Diplomacy and money is. People with full bellies and security at home don’t become radical and want to suicide bomb you.
All of you who want to go to war so badly with Iran and the rest of the middle east, go to your recruiter and join up. The top age is now 44 years old for the Army. Get to it! And anyone who says I need to go, I already have.
Posted by: rick | June 18, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Christian families sending their kids to die fighting for what they believe. Muslim families sending their kids to die for what they believe. Who wants to start splitting hairs here?
Posted by: Stalin | June 18, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
“U.S. intelligence officials described the event as another example of “an aggressive and sophisticated propaganda campaign.”"
By running this article ABC is participating as a tool of the terrorist propaganda campaign.
I almost wish we WOULD be attacked again, just to remind people that this is SERIOUS and REAL.
Posted by: JT | June 18, 2007, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Look, I’m not a fan of what’s going on in Iraq right now, but comments such as: “The fruits of our evil labors are coming to bear and now innocent civilians will likely pay for the mistakes made by the leadership (or lack thereof) of our country” make me a little upset.
Now? NOW??!?!!!? Do people happen to forget 9/11, you know, innocent civilians paying with their lives BEFORE any decisions made by the current administration?
Let’s get one thing right at least. The only reason why these animals are doing this is b/c they’re evil. Not b/c of what republicans or democrats are doing.
Posted by: Steve | June 18, 2007, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
“Pentagon hires ABC NEWS reporter to improve PR”
Good job ABC, you are quickly doing their work for them, bully for you! Keep up the great work comrades!
Posted by: JelloBiafra | June 18, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
endtime.com – everything that is happening and will happen is already written in The Bible. The prophecy that a third of mankind will be killed is coming anytime. Be prepared by repenting, getting baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and recieving the Holy Spirit. Then you will have nothing to fear. People that already understand the truth realize that something big is right around the corner. Nukes are probably it.
Posted by: Sara | June 18, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Interesting that this is big news now. I know a few years ago a friend was getting ready to reenlist, he served in the first gulf war. He was told by a family member, a Colonel, that if he wanted to serve his country and protect americans to join a police or local force as the terrorists were here.
Posted by: Ryan | June 18, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Bush is a failure. The Taliban is making a comeback, Hamas now controls half of Palestine, Iran is building nukes, and the situation in Iraq is now so bad that we’ve taken to arming Sunni insurgents — the same people who have been killing U.S. troops for the last four years — to help quell Al Qaida in Iraq.
Bush has played right into the terrorists’ hands, and right-wing morons like the ones posting on this comment thread have done nothing but cheer him on. We could have squashed these cockroaches back in ’02, when the CIA and Special Forces had them cornered in Afghanistan. But Bush, in his infinite wisdom, decided to start pulling military resources out of Afghanistan and move them into the Persian Gulf to get ready to invade Iraq — a country that Bush himself even admits had nothing to do with 9/11. Couldn’t he have at least waited until we had finished the job in Afghanistan first?
The worst part, I fear, is that if people haven’t started figuring this stuff out after going on six years of this insanity, I don’t think they ever will. God help us all.
Posted by: We Told You So | June 18, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Let’s keep those borders open, by all means, Senators! Idiots.
Posted by: Joyce | June 18, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
They hate us for our freedoms.
Posted by: Cletus W. American | June 18, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
I find alot of these comments that blame Bush funny. Also the comments about how the ” world ” hates us. France and Germany are tasting what we could be tasting if we don’t lock the borders and keep the fight over there. It is also interesting that both of those countries had their elections recently and, what this…..Both elected pro American leaders…..Hmmmm….It’s almost like they are thinking of trying to start a friendship with us cuz they know how wrong they were for not listening and following our example!
Posted by: Helminator | June 18, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
yep…and when was the first WTC bombing and who was in office? The Cole? The US embassies in Africa? blah…blah… It must be W’s fault because the terrorists knew that one day he would be president.
Posted by: bob | June 18, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Anyone notice the white cars with the blue siren lights in the background? Those are Afgani Police cars. IM sure, there are more pics of those cars and one could track down those cars. Track down who has driven them…….Basic detective work needs to be done over there and you will get some superior intelligence out of this.
Posted by: Rob | June 18, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
What, this can’t be the war on terror is simply a “Bumper Sticker” Slogan. Thats what John Edwards said, I mean its not real, right?
Well if it is real then they better just blow up the schools that contain the children and grandchildren of the people that want us to run and hide from this threat.
This generation must do its part. How could you tell your kids sorry that work was too hard for us to finish so now you must tackle it being 1000 times harder… so we took 3500 casualties and the Democrats cut and ran.. now you must sacrifice 350,000 good men and women to fix the problem once and for all.
Will Generation X be the cowards of history.. I hope not.
Posted by: Tom | June 18, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Although we did not create al qaeda, we have aided them recently. This war in Iraq has emboldened these disgusting terrorists in Afghanistan by creating additional funding bases and by serving as a place where terrorists can train in terrorist tactics. According to the CIA, unfortunately it has also developed a whole new generation of terrorists in the region as well.
Posted by: AC | June 18, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
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In the post 911 barrage of propaganda put out by the Bush administration, stories like this have to be filtered through the “Boy Who Cried Wolf” filter to rise to any level of validity.
There has been an endless stream of similar reports that have not resulted in anything other than the “threat of the day” numbing of peoples’ sensitivities to the extent that if a real threat surfaced it would have to actually be carried out before it would be believed.
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Posted by: Xster | June 18, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Anyone who believes that the United States/Britain being involved in Iraq/ Afghanistan did not inflame the hatred towards the two former countries is completely insane. Surely these muslim extremists harbored a great deal of hatred for America before 9.11, but our futile attempts at stomping out hatred(terrorism) through our failed conquests only made matters much, much worse. I’m not sure why i’m even posting, however, because all people seem to understand on these boards is partisan banter that fits a perfect conservative/liberal mold. I must either hate bush on principal or blindly back him? Rubbish. Having said that, if this above story ends up being true, expect civil rights to take a huge turn for the worse… imagine a society fearing to use mass transit or walk safely in its large cities…I should think we’d start to relate a bit more with Israel. Bush’s ratings would surely drop…but you can’t blame him for their hatred and willingness to suicide bomb….only for a poorly executed policy in a region of the world that has hated us for a long time and now hates us even more.
Posted by: M | June 18, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Fear not !!!
Hillary will save us !!!
Posted by: citizen | June 18, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“Once we start to question our government and the system of power we are all a part of, in my opinion, the terrorists are winning. They hate democracy and what we are, if we don’t have one vision about what to do and stand behind it 100%, they are getting what they want.”
quite possible the stupidest thing i’ve heard all day. what does democracy mean if not the freedom to question?
Posted by: arnie | June 18, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Must be obvious that the heat is on for bush&co with all the crimes being uncovered. Time to rattle the old scare machine up and take peoples minds off the fact that their own government is the real enemy here.
Boogity, boogity lemmens! OOOh, Red, Orange and Yellow. Be afraid be very afraid. No other country warns terrorists when there’s a high alert. Really, think about it. Who is the alert system really for? If you were a terrorist wouldn’t you wait until the alert system wasn’t flashing Orange or Red before attacking? Idiots that believe this BS.
If I was a younger man or had the means I’d renounce my citizenship to this most ignorant and stupid of countries and find a saner place to live and leave this dismal land to the paranoid fools who believe the crap that this government feeds them.
Posted by: Com-n-sense | June 18, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
question was: “why not yell at/against the idiots who send these young children out to commit these missions?”
Answer is: because they are not spending billions of our tax dollars supporting Halliburton, oops, I mean “fighting terror”.
Posted by: me | June 18, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
If they specifically mean suicide bombers with explosives strapped to them then this opens up a whole new arena. They may kill fewer people at once but it’s a better way of spreading panic and is more unpredictable than hijacking, etc.
In a country full of different races and ethnic groups they can blend in easily and disperse among everyday people. Now they may truly be going after ordinary people because it’s become too difficult to breach security in more obvious places.
To the people dismissing this threat in some carefully posed nonchalant way; excuse me if this worries me more than the other types of attacks since I live in a place too close to D.C. for comfort, and in a place too diverse for people to notice anybody as an identifiable enemy. I know I shouldn’t be ‘paranoid’. ;-)
Posted by: SKDD | June 18, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Relax, no one is getting in to bomb anyone. Their bluster is far worse than their bite. Just look at those fools at the “graduation” ceremony…a bunch of worthless nuts who live in caves.
Posted by: Russ | June 18, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
For those of you who think we are having all this trouble because of George Bush, I refer you to a book called “The Looming Tower”. This has been coming since the 1940′s! Some of you need to educate yourselves and study a little history, and think like an American and not a partisan. We are where we are because of the head in the sand attitude.
Posted by: Linda | June 18, 2007, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
I knew it was going to happen………We have to fight a war with our hands tied while the enemy doesn’t care who or how they kill.
Posted by: Barry | June 18, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
I love these political discussions. If we could only get Washington to listen to us we could have all the problems solved in minutes.
Onward to reality. The one thing that must be avoided is a nuclear response to any attacks that we might receive. If it escalates then most everyone could be destroyed. It can pretty well be assured that if the fanatically leaning Muslims do, in fact, send people to this country and succeed with a few bombers the American people will be blown out of their easy chairs and will be ready to do something drastic.
We have been making the Mid-East situation so political that the military can’t do their job so it certainly appears that we haven’t learned much from history. It’s fairly simple. You charge the military with the job, give them the limits of the job, then get the hell out of the way and let them do it.
Posted by: Orvis | June 18, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Thanks, W, for killing off as many as you have. Not our fault that those people have such a warped view of life and the world. Will be our fault if we don’t try to destroy the lunatics before they can harm innocent bystanders. And, yes, I know that from their point of view there are no such things as “innocent” Americans. But their point of view is wrong.
Posted by: Terry | June 18, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Let’s see they car bommbed the twin towers in ’93. two embassies in africa and the us cole. way to go bush!!!! wait a minute, oops, BILL CLINTON was president then. maybe these bombings will start in time for when the other CLINTON takes over. Gee, I wished I lived in a sanctuary city now.
Posted by: Paulp | June 18, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
yall are not realizing that this is just AMERICAN propaganda being fed to you so that in a few months when the U.S. Gov does a suicide attack within the states, the sheeple will believe it.
Expect the Iran conflict in no time…and im sure martial law.
see you in the civilian work camps (look it up)!
Posted by: billybob | June 18, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Interesting article for it’s political implications (especially if it becomes a trend). It is well-known that news about security and terrorism helps the poll numbers of one candidate far more than any other – Rudy Giuliani.
Posted by: Lynn Brant | June 18, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
And the congressional leadership is worried about what? Missing emails from low level Whitehouse staffers!!!
Posted by: Fed Up With Libs | June 18, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Oh MY Me so scared me no work
Posted by: Jackalopes | June 18, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
W has made a complete mess of the middle east. their legacy will go on for along time which is a crying shame.
Posted by: Bubba | June 18, 2007, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Its the dems fault!!
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2007, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Odd that another terrorism meme appears the same news cycle that the White House destroyed all their emails.
This show is getting old and sad at this point.
Posted by: Lonestar Shining | June 18, 2007, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
You all miss the point. The USA is in the way of a one world government. That is what the Left wants. That is why they want us weakened by:
1. Division over war
2. Losing any conflict that we get involved in.
3. Massive illegal immigration.
4. Total dependence on the government.
By 2050 we’ll be in 3 maybe four pieces.
NO ONE predicted that the USSR would cruble without a war. We will break up and follow them and a One World government will follow….
Their next problem will be China…
Posted by: Eldon | June 18, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Perhaps we should remember our { U.S.} history. Since the inception of this country the wealthy and the politicians have practiced a policy of manifest destiny {God gives us the right to conquer any and all we come across and take what is theirs} this policy has turned every country, even our so called allies against us. this policy is not nor was not the the single purview of the U.S. Every country in the past has practiced it. Long story Short there would be no terrorist if we had not tried to rule the entire word and practiced empire ism. an old history buff.
Posted by: claude westervelt | June 18, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Having a graduation ceremony and releasing a videotape is clearly a propaganda approach, and it appears to be working well with the morons posting on this story.
This type of story shows that we need to concentrate on vetting information such as this, since it appears to be so easy to agitate the citizens based on the slightest rumor.
As far as the “meaning” of this story – well operating intelligence agencies that cooperate internationally are the only method to deal with this type of threat.
Posted by: SAL | June 18, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
George W. Bush has created more terrorists than Osama bin Laden could have ever created in his wildest jihad dreams.
Posted by: j2davee | June 18, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Bring em on!
Posted by: justintime | June 18, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Well, I guess we need to set a timetable when we will need to pull out of the US too! It sort of makes sense that the terrorists want to come here. So many people now are demanding defeat in the fight against terrorism. The terrorists have to feel pretty powerful against those people right now, knowing that there are a good number of people willing to give up to them.
Posted by: TexBork | June 18, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Didn’t you know? We created terrorism. We created Global Warming. We asked for 9/11, the Cole bombing, all the embassy bombings, the Khobar towers bombing, the hijackings, etc. We made Saddam attack Kuwait. We cause people to hate us because of our policy and income inequality. We aren’t diverse enough, we don’t like open boarders, we did all those things to blacks, gays, and native Americans in the past. We don’t give enough to Aids research. We don’t give enough to Africa. We are too religious and conservative. We aren’t leftist or politically correct enough. We must appease our enemies so that they will like us.
Posted by: David | June 18, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
What the hell is taking them so long anyway? I’ve had my bunker made since November 2001. I’m getting tired of replacing all that food every 8 months.
Lets go already.
Posted by: Steve | June 18, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Love those screaming red letters that drudge uses whenever he pushes the fear button for our little dictator king George Jr. Bush will go down in history as one of THE worst presidents EVER.
Key word…distraction
Desired effect….BOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Be very afraid.
Posted by: thromulese | June 18, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
What – you’re not really buying this are you? Anything this administration says should be triple checked and left in the sun for a few days to see if it passes the smell test. Karl Rove’s emails were deleted, that’s a crime, time to create a distraction. Oh, look over there – it’s a terrorist – run for your lives.
Don’t be so damn gullible.
Posted by: Powkat | June 18, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Glad I don’t shop at WALMART!
Posted by: rojo | June 18, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Wasn’t it Dick Cheney saying that the proof that they were doing a good job is the decrease in terrorism in the US? Funny, how we never count the Anthrax attack or the El Al shooting at LAX as terrorism. As for this story, probably leaked by the Bush administration to try to scare everyone back into submission.
Posted by: chris | June 18, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
THANK YOU Pelosi, Reid and Co. for empowering these lunatics. Keep up the good work. ………no wonder these idiots have a 12% approval rating.
Posted by: PM | June 18, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Watch out, next Bush will blame Global Warming, herpes, and teen pregnancy on Iran and “radical Islam”. Our real problem is idiotic Americans who think they can be President. Bush is America’s greatest threat to national security and our future. He is a criminal, a traitor, and a war criminal, and must be brought to justice.
Posted by: A. Duncan | June 18, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
To all those saying that terrorists were around before Bush: Of course you’re right. But that’s not the problem, not what us “liberals” are saying. The actions we have taken in the Middle East, and particularly in how we have seemed to think that Israel can do no wrong, and how we invaded Iraq…
Yes, there were already people who hated the U.S. and wanted to attack, but what our actions have done is to push people, who may not have liked us but weren’t motivated to take action, over the edge. We’ve given terrorist leaders more items to use to persuade others to join their cause.
Posted by: DakkonA | June 18, 2007, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
If it takes 3000 innocent American deaths in an single instant to win all that great ‘love’ and ‘sympathy’ from the world, then you, and the world, can take it and stuff it.
Doing the right thing is rarely popular… espically with a socialist democrat party and a complicit media. Don’t think we’ve forgot how you libs acted towards Reagan at the time. He gets the props these days, but back in the day he was treated like the stupid, cowboy, right-wing warmonger profiteer and out control capitalistic maniac — that Bush gets painted with today (he just doesn’t defend himself from it nearly as well as Ronaldus Maximus did)
Posted by: FreedomNeocon | June 18, 2007, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Read the 9/11 commission report. Listen to Ron Paul. Read what Bin Laden has said.
Our Occupation of Saudi Arabia and other Middle East countries are the foundation of the extremists hate. It is not for our freedoms or our pop culture. There are plenty of other countries like the U.S. that do not receive the attention terrorists.
They hate us for our occupation.
Posted by: James Cornell | June 18, 2007, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Seems like strong 2nd amendment rights and assault rifles would come handy now. Considering our Army and National Guard are in Iraq.
Posted by: joe | June 18, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Also – some of you people are flipping scary – I hope you live a long way away from me.
Posted by: powkat | June 18, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I don’t know who scares me more – the Muslim fundamentalist terrorists or the right wing neocon nutjobs who keep opening up new fronts for the enemy to fight us.
Posted by: OpiesDad | June 18, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Is this for real or only propaganda? It is not enough to have just teams of suicide bombers. You need large quantities of explosives, safe houses, people to do the targeting. It may be that they have the suicide teams. Are these people English-speaking? Not obviously Arabs? Are they familar with the West, or will they stand out in crowds? For someone who has lived in the outback of Afganistan all his life, the shopping mall will probably be bewildering. They may have experienced terrorists to do the targeting. The safe houses are a problem since the police probably can find them and roll them up, even if they are in Arab neighborhoods. Do we have any “No–Go” areas in this country? The terrorists have heretofore shown themselve unable to undertake this kind of campaign. It is more likely that we will see IED’s than suicide bombers, since this can be done without suicide teams or safe houses. All you need is explosives, cars, someone to drop off the bomb along an intestate, pretending to have car trouble, and a garage where they are created. It might be easier to do this in Mexico, where the police can be easily bribed to stay away, and to bring the cars over the border. Are customs officals looking for this? How would they find it, given that the bomb is hidden, and the car is not carrying drugs. All you would need are a stolen license plate and a car to do this. This is just one more thing to be worried about and an excuse for ABC to make an alarmist report. The government of Pakistan, and whether Musharraf will fall, leading to an Islamist government armed with nuclear weapons, is a more substantial reason to worry then this report.
Posted by: jJMCNULTY | June 18, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Let’s see now, these suicide bombers were trained in Pakistan, who are our friends; the 9/11 bombers were from Saudi Arabia, who were our friends. So what did we do? Invade Iraq. Yeah, that’s the ticket!
Posted by: Jojo | June 18, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
way to go congress
Posted by: chris | June 18, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Gee B Duncab….and I suppose the picture used in the article was taken in the same studio that was used when they faked the moon landings…
Posted by: RayW | June 18, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
He who has not sinned can cast the first stone. None of the G8 members have the moral right to preach. That which you have already acquired by pillaging the world and then expecting the world to follow a life of just methods to gain prosperity is just the kettle calling the pot black.
History is written by victors, what really transpired in the past, no one really knows.
Hence the current event that unfolded show stark reality and hence cannot be sweetened. The world see the events as they unfold.
Spread joy and leave the high ground mentality and they will be peace.
Posted by: SA | June 18, 2007, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Per Brandon, “The problem today is everyone hates us. Not just the extremists who have always hated the US for our freedoms, but people in countries that have been long term allies now despise us for our empiricism.” I think you meant ‘imperialism’. The entire world – not just the ‘extremists’ – has detested the United States since it became the dominant power following World War II. It is despised out of envy – of our freedoms, of our wealth, of our power, of our influence around the world – pure and simple. This irrational envy and hatred have been directed at every great power by all the lesser powers since the Roman Empire. Just ask the British. We are the greatest, most generous and benevolent people that have ever existed. The votes at the ‘United Nations’ from the last 50 years should tell you everything you need to know about how the entire world, including the non-extremists, has viewed us for the last half century, no matter how generous we try to be. We cannot and will not be loved, but who cares?
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Those who blame President Bush are assinine. So we’re to assume the bombers of the WTC in 1993 were their fault, too? Besides, your defeatist attitudes shame me. You would be better to become French.
Posted by: Pete | June 18, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
After all these stupid, ignorant, racist attacks I’ve read; it’s no wonder our nation is suffering. Thousands of innocent civilians butchered in Iraq. God save us for our sins.
Posted by: Catalino Jacinto | June 18, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
The first few posts here are breathtaking in their stupidity and ignorance. Typical liberal CRAP…It’s all our fault!!
These liberals just don’t get it…We were attacked multiple times going back to the early 90′s..These extremists hate western civilization period nothing you can do will appease them. Fanatical extremists like these need to be wiped out period!!!
Posted by: Jpeterson | June 18, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Cindy:
I guess that’s why even Al Gore said Saddam was involved with terrorism, eh?
Posted by: KenHorse
Is taking something that was said 15 years ago out of context the best you can do? Hope that helps your party in 08!!!
The quote you are referring to is from 1992. There were 10 years of UN sanctions and inspections in between the time Gore said it and the time GWB said it.
Maybe GWB’s problem was that he was still looking at intelligence from 1992 (which would not surprise me one bit).
Posted by: j2davee | June 18, 2007, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
“” “It doesn’t take too many who are willing to actually do it and be able to slip through the net and get into the United States or England and cause a lot of damage,” said ABC News consultant Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism official.”"
“Slip through the net?” Ummmm, do you ever wonder why Bush, Chertoff, and Gonzalez refuse to enforce our immigration laws and protect our borders?
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Let’s put this in a more reasonable perspective:
1. Americas are more likely to be struck by lightning than to be attacked by Islamic terrorists.
2. Islamic terrorists are dangerous and we should constantly be on guard. We have many other worries also, like disease pandemics that can’t be controlled with existing antibiotics. But we can’t live our lives in constant fear. Where fear rules, fascism thrives.
3. The incompetent and bull-headed policies of Bush have made terrorist attacks on Americans more likely.
4. The statement, “We have to fight them over there so we won’t have to fight them over there,” is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Whether we fight them over there or not is totally unrelated as to whether we might ever have to fight them here.
5. The invasion of Iraq has weakened and depleted our military. It has caused us to lose allies all over the world.
6. Islam is not an evil religion. Is as unfair to say Moslems are evil, because of Jihadist terrorists; just as it is unfair to say Christians are evil because Adolf Hitler was a Christian.
Posted by: Larry | June 18, 2007, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I don’t know who or what to believe any longer. Maybe that is what is intended (planned) in the first place! I know that this war is splitting America though; that we are hated all over the world and yet all the dumbified public does is lambast one another while our rich pompous leaders play games with our ecomomy, our standard of living and our childrens lives! What in the hell has happened and happening to my country!
Peace…Everyone!
Posted by: Sarge | June 18, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Ummm, to echo what several have already said, gee, wish we had BORDER SECURITY!
And the people who say America needs to repent: Please! give me a break. In what way hasn’t America “repented”? Are you even partially aware of your surroundings? (Ironically, the things we offer as repentance actually do more harm than good, but that’s irrelevant.) This country is so insanely repentant for being America that we’re practically handing ourselves off to the first taker with a sparkly eye and winning smile. Whoops, we hurt some feelings in the past, so now we’re not going to stand up for anything. We’ve apologized and kissed the ground and Politically Corrected ourselves to near extinction. And for some reason you think that God has chosen to use terrorists to punish us? Guess what, they don’t care what we do or think, they just want us dead. They have global domination in mind, and apparently we’re just going to roll over and play dead. What’s it going to take for people to wake up and realize what’s at stake? It’s like the country as a whole suffers from some demented form of mass amnesia.
Posted by: jmcawr | June 18, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
We have more fools in this country than in any other it would seem! Everyone blames Bush! NO…..it’s not Bush. They have been attacking for a long time. They attacked the USS Cole. They have attacked the World Trade Center BEFORE 9/11. Muslim Extremists hate the U.S. and have been working towards this goal for much longer than Bush has been in office.
WAKE UP!! It’s coming here. No, it’s no t propoganda. It’s real. It’s hatred. And it’s not Bush’s fault. It’s time to put the blame where it belongs!! On the shoulders of the murderers themselves. People murder because they are murderers!! And for no other reason!!
Posted by: lmcde00 | June 18, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Isn’t it curious that the same day the missing white house emails is news the story gets upstaged by the THREAT of suicide bombers. Fear works wonders for this administration.
Oh yeah if you support this war and the workings of Bush and company then put your money where your mouth is and go to Iraq and fight the war you so strongly bel;ive in
Posted by: Nicolas Valle | June 18, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Has this war been going on for 6 years or 600 years? Do people remember bush used the word “crusade”. Time for the US to return to, “Carry a big stick,
and talk softly.” Instead of screaming “Fear,Fear,Fear”, we should
fight our enemies with LOVE and PEACE,
yes love and peace! Otherwise lets just push the button, and give the world to the cockroaches!
Posted by: pete | June 18, 2007, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
The terrorists are at it again. Iraq and Iran are countries but the terrorists are fundamentalists of Islamic origin arising from many countries including not only Iraq and Iran but western countries.
Whether we were in Iraq or Afghanistan, makes no difference. The USS Cole, the embassy in Somalia and of course 911 were events of tragedy for Americans long before we were in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Islamic fundamentalists believes that he is in a religious war with Western decadence. This jihadist view occurred long before these terrorist activities.
Wake up now because we are not in a school yard brawl, this is actually a war for the future direction of the world.
Posted by: dermpath1 | June 18, 2007, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Wow, a lot of people chimed in on this one. I have to say you are plain stupid if you think anything we have done recently has caused hatred against America. The militant muslim factions have hated us simply because we have backed the Israel state. These people want to see Israel destroyed and because we have been a constant backer of Israel, they would like to see us destroyed as well. These people do not understand right and wrong, they understand their demented, warped view of how things should be. They want you dead because you are an American, that is all. That is the only reason, not becaused we have wronged them. Grow up, grow wise, and please grow strong other wise we witness one horrific fate after another. The time is upon us, let us show the world what America is capable of. Stand together and stand strong, or we will turn into another terrorist stricken place. Don’t hate the president, hate the evil doers.
Posted by: Daniel | June 18, 2007, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Oh please.
If you buy into this in the first place, these guys have been coming to get us every couple of months for the last 6 years since 9/11.
It’s the phantom menace. The Boogie Man. Our never ending unwin-able/unlose-able war.
Which of the exposed terrorist plots captured by any of the “coalition” homeland security agencies have actually panned out to be genuine threats that could face up to even minor investigations?
If you said “none”, you would be correct.
Posted by: Zach | June 18, 2007, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I don’t like Bush, I do not think he is smart enough or competant enough to be President. I also think the decision to go into Iraq was not only wrong but deceitful and I wish we could bring him and his cronies to justice. That said, I am sick and tired of Muslim radicals killing us. If they want terror, let’s give them terror.
Posted by: Gus Mcray | June 18, 2007, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Propaganda just in time for Bush’s lowest approval ratings. You’re all sheep for buying into this BS. The timing is perfect and it just so happens when he is doing his worst, like always.
Wake up you drones, there are no bad men training to kill us, continue to go about your lives watching American Idol and NASCAR. Surely you can find time to understand this while on vacation from your 40-hr slave labor middle-class jobs. You are the working dead and Bush’s generation needs to go, so the 20 & 30-something youth can run the country. Greed has turned America into a wasteland thanks to those over the age of 45…
If you’re not one of them, you’re just as guilty for sitting back and allowing them to manipulate you with fear and promises of change.
Posted by: veritas | June 18, 2007, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
we need to close the borders and get that fence up..and start treating this as a war and not a police action.and when at war..fight to win.stop the PC war..go roman and win then you can you can have dialoge..dialoge over unconditional surrender
Posted by: bob | June 18, 2007, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Guerrilla marketing campaign by Halliburton and Chevron Texaco… It’s just good business, ask Rudy!
Posted by: Matt | June 18, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Dadullah’s explanation for their attacks: “These Americans, Canadians, British and Germans come here to Afghanistan from faraway places,” Dadullah says on the tape. “Why shouldn’t we go after them?”
It sounds like the same reason Ron Paul stated during the debates- they are here because we are there. More proof Ron is right.
Posted by: David S | June 18, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Hey liberal morons, WTC 1993, USS Cole? and you thank W? Thank Clinton! Or do you deny those events even occurred. They are coming again…and they will keep coming no matter who runs the country..or haven’t you figured that out yet?
Posted by: Corey L | June 18, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
I am sure glad that Congress has officially decreed that there no longer needs to be a war on Terror since terrorists do not exist.
…
Errr.. please move over so I can put my head down in the sand with the rest of the Congress!
Posted by: Jim Chapman | June 18, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
The big problem I have with the open border policy that allows this infiltration is that it shows that Bush and LCinton have NO LOVE for America. They only love money, power and helping their rich buddies get more rich through granting cheap labor (i.e illegals) to big business along with many other special favors they grant to their greedy freinds.
Posted by: Steve | June 18, 2007, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
But I thought we were fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here?
Posted by: evil | June 18, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
If all Muslims are as radical as you far right wingers say, and we are in jeopardy of an internal attach – why has’t the far right wing deported every last one of them over the past 6 years since 9/11? You had the politcial power and mandate to do so. You owned all three branches of government. Why are you so suddenly fearful now? Where have you been for 6 years? Why are you so worried about the border all of a sudden when I have been screaming about it being like swiss cheese for 5 years. And I am (in your eyes) a liberal. This whole sudden terrorist scare is all about getting your dam* border to keep the Mexicans out. You are so pathetic!
Posted by: JLW | June 18, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Libby going to jail, missing emails, surge not working, now another terror scare to steal the headlines…hmmmmm
Posted by: sammy1 | June 18, 2007, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I wonder what Paris Hilton is up to?
Posted by: Brett | June 18, 2007, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
If Jimmy Carter had backed the Shah of Iran, Khomeni wouldn’t have taken over and all of the bombings and problems since 1979 would not have occurred. He will go down as the most idiotic and naive president we ever have – we are living with the results of his stupidity.
Posted by: Michael | June 18, 2007, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
When you hear people worry about us creating more terrorists by having troops in in Iraq now are forgetting that we have had bases all over the middle east for years including Saudi Arabia. The 9/11 attacks happened for reasons that go back to 1949 when the western powers created an all new map of the middle east and there will always be those who want to do the west harm.
We need to confront it now while we still have the power to do it becaus if we don’t it will never stop no matter how much we try to make nice. Don’t be so affraid of some crazy polls, the Europeans are starting to understand the dangers and are electing leaders who will protect them.
Posted by: Rob | June 18, 2007, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
When we will become Americans again and work together to stop evil? Why do we turn this into an “us vs. them” argument, when we are both on the same side?
There is a threat against us, that it is clear, Iraq, Afghanistan, pakistan. It’s time to come together to protect our way of life.
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2007, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
CIA? You trust the CIA?
Why didn’t we go after the actual perpetrators of 9/11? The Saudis…
It’s sad to see so much ignorance and name calling in these types of threads. Left, right, neocon, liberal… all labels meaning nothing…
Posted by: CSP | June 18, 2007, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
The question, as asked above, is not whether the situation in the Middle East is bad, or even worse then what it was prior to the US actions in Iraq. The real question is “Are things better now then they would have been had the US not invaded Iraq?”
The answer to that is a qualified YES. As many terrorists as there are now, there would have been more, better trained, better lead, and better financed, if the US had stayed out of Iraq. Instead of being able to plan, train, and execute from safe harbors, terrorists are forced to hide from US forces, and to battle in places of our choosing, not theirs.
Things may not be good, but they are far, far better then they would have been under more timid (read Democratic) leadership.
Posted by: Kicker | June 18, 2007, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
As I read each of these letters I’m struck by how determined everyone seems to continue warring at any cost. The torture and imprisonment, the murder of innocent civilians, and the destruction of entire nations are apparently a small price to pay in all of your eyes. Before Bush is finished he will turn the entire world against us and we will never live without fear again.
Posted by: Bill Lawrence | June 18, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
They ought to call this the armchair quarterback blog. Apparently everyone on this blog knows everything we should have done at every point of time in the last 10 years. What a bunch of geniuses.
Wake up people. We are dealing with relentless underground rats, and at this point, a “graduation ceremony” doesn’t equal a terrorist attack. I am glad we even know about events like this.
Posted by: DV | June 18, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
@B Duncab. You did read the last
say 100 posts on this site didn’t you?
Oh guess not go back and read the “blame bush” sarcastic one. Yes
ABC news is run by the President B. (READ:SARCASM). THIS IS PROPAGANDA?
What do you HONESTLY believe that?
If you believe that we sent a news crew
out there and those people are not real (the terrorists) then you are one brain washed person. I hope you seek help.
For America’s sake.
Posted by: anonymous | June 18, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Wow…mainstream america really is dumb! Look at all these factually/historically challenged comments!! I think I’ll go back to reading news from credible organizations who aren’t profit driven.
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
OK, I read the article. It claims that the “graduation ceremony” was in Afghanistan..it does not indicate where the suicide people trained. They could have trained in downtown LA for all we know. Whether its propaganda or the real deal misses the point. There are people that want us dead because we are American. They would take the same amount of glee sawing off Rosie O’Donald’s head as they would Michael Savage’s. They really don’t care if they kill an innocent chistian or a muslim as long as it suits their purpose for power. Somebody up there was pulling numbers out of their butt on how many people have died. Most of them, whatever the number is, were killed by terrorists that claim to be muslims. They were killing each other long before we got there…remember Sadam? President Bush understands this. His only mistake was listening to some wienees about doing a halfway job in Afghanistan (we are still there by the way) and Iraq. He sould have gone after a few in the press and congress on treason charges too, but it wouldn’t have changed anything. The only way we are going to get it done is to get out of the way and let our military do what they are trained to do. I’m not thrilled with the prospect of terror cells in the States, or a liberal socialist being the next President, but I am ready for both if they happen. If they want to come over here I say, go for it. I’ll kick their behinds or die trying.
Posted by: Terry | June 18, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Gee. Looks like the perfect time to legalize illegals!!!! Kennedy and McCain need to permanently check into nursing homes.
Posted by: scott | June 18, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I have complete faith that the President will continue to protect the American people as he has done in the past. This threat will pass as Bush continues to unify the Middle East. Without such a strong leader this country would be in real trouble.
Posted by: trevor | June 18, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Any such attacks will be the result of our nation’s failure for 20+ years to take the war against Islamic extremists seriously.
We see the rise of militant Islamic jihadism in Lebanon, in the Gaza Strip, in Iran – and of course in Afghanistan and Iraq where Coalition Forces are doing something in response.
For too long our nation looked the other way while Americans were being killed in embassies, in airline hijackings, our troops killed in the Marine Barracks and the USS Cole, and of course the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
It took the 9/11 attacks for our nation to demand action be taken, but look how many people have already tired of the war effort? That apathy will have a consequence, and that is why we cannot flag or fail in the war against Islamic terror.
Posted by: Joe | June 18, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
This is yet another reason why the War on Terror is not a “bumper sticker” like John Edwards says, and we need to continue to fight Muslim extremists where they are trained.
Posted by: Joe | June 18, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Ladies and Gentleman, we will find out in the coming months of how badly our government has failed us. Am I talking about Iraq? No. That was necessary. I am talking about border security. Anyone want to guess how these bombers are going to get into our country (if they aren’t already here)?
By constantly pandering to interest groups and the immigrants for votes, our politicians have failed us where we needed it the most.
Posted by: Ben | June 18, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Hmmm, I wonder what would be easier, training and smuggling 300 people into foreign counties or making a video….
Posted by: Tim | June 18, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I wonder if there’s like 5 people in total posting here. Sure looks like it.
Posted by: Bah | June 18, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Seems to me that we should all forget about our political parties and realize we are ALL in this together, whether we like it or not. IMO, instead of our screwing around in Iraq, we should be in Afganistan looking for these murderers before they are able to carry out any more bombings. We never will catch Bin Laden; this is a guy who knows how to survive in the actual wilderness and that is why he will always illude us. And even if we do catch him, do you know any names of the people who will take his place? Neither do I. That is what’s so scary. Everyone who is name-calling, it’s the other parties fault, WHATEVER needs to get off their high horse and realize that this is going to affect ALL of us. Democrats and Republicans alike.
Posted by: teresa | June 18, 2007, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
I was going to comment, but DJ (a couple posts above me) put it perfectly.
I think its about time that we rethink our foreign policy.
Posted by: Andy | June 18, 2007, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
They can’t translate????????? Good job ABC.
Posted by: Jimmy Kearney | June 18, 2007, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Did someone forget to tell the Terrorist recruits that waving a white flag is a sign of surrender?
Posted by: Skull | June 18, 2007, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Let them come, let them blow us up. Then we wait for the Dems to blame Bush… Then and only then will we get serious about this problem. As if 9/11 wasn’t enough. (Thanks Clinton) Read Mark Steyn’s Book ‘America Alone’. People respect force, and roll over weakness. With everything taken away from them, Germany was able to rebuild and almost take over all of Europe. Right now We have Strong people and a weak government. (and insane news outlets, the bias is sickening) Tell you what next election replace them all.
No more Bushes or Clintons or Obamas. We need a JFK or Reagan type now!!! I’m in Los Angeles, I know I’m on the list.
Posted by: Trevor | June 18, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Bush has stolen there oil and given it to his father. If you don’t understand that, you are stupid. They would not be doing this if it wasn’t for the Bush family’s greed. I’m voting for John Edward who will free every so called terrorist we have locked up in Cuba and not steal there oil
Posted by: Steven | June 18, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Otherwise intelligent people have told me the only reason we’re at war in Iraq is to enrich Bush and Cheney. There is no logic behind this contention, but it sounds good. It’s true that Cheney used to work for a company that got many of the jobs to rebuild Iraq after the invasion. It’s true that Bush used to make money in the oil business. Going to war in Iraq is the least logical action I can conceive to enrich these two men. If you really think these two men would invade a country and commit thousands of our soldiers to risking their lives solely to increase their capital worth, I know of some Nigerian money that is available to you if you would like to send me your savings account information.
Posted by: Rich | June 18, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Well heres what I think…
Its like we had a small rash (Terrorists)on us that was itching and could have been stopped with an anti itch cream( a new foreign policy) that kind that dosen’t screw us later on. Instead George wanted to be king of the jungle and didn’t use the itch cream but instead decided to scratch it (now thats got hurt. Now that rash got bigger (Terrorists to Terrorism), redder (anti US sentiments) and now the rash is bleeding (terrorist attacking & killing us).
Take this as a sincere advice from a future citizen,
George… you are not the King of the Jungle. Ah Ahahaahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Posted by: kilroy was here | June 18, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
“War never cured anything.” — yah, right.
That is, if you don’t include Nazism, Facisim, Totalitarianism, Communism, and… oh yah.. Slavery.
To the left — wake up already. Islamic extremism is NEXT on the list. And, don’t confuse Islamic extremism with Islam… its two different completely things.
The sooner the Left candidates start telling you the truth, the sooner you will understand what needs to be done.
This war was not brought on by us. It is not the fault of any party. So, stop blaming the right and get on with the job. Do what is RIGHT!
Posted by: bbbpppp | June 18, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Posted by: Zach | June 18, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Enough with the fear mongering jackals!
Clearly, our beloved Republic is being led by incompetent fools, who act like the guy responsible for 9/11 isn’t of interest, and now, are so diplomatically or militarily inept that they can’t catch terrorism while or soon after it’s being planned on video!
Instead of accepting the scaring the American people into walling ourselves off like the Soviet Union, or giving up any more of our hard-won freedoms, perhaps we should take a moment and consider that the current regime in Washington has a penchant for failing on purpose so as to undertake sinister unAmerican tactics against the good American people?
In short, if you support a wall or this incompetent regime, you’re *worse* than the Commies of old!
Posted by: ProConstitution | June 18, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
I worked and have traveled in many Islamic countries. I know the language and the mindset of these people. Let me tell you the reason they want to bomb you and kill you. They are being brain washed by their leaders to believe we are bad for one reason…power. With power comes money. They do it in the name of a religion because it is an easy way to control them. That is it.
I had one Muslim that I hung out with and became good friends with that later told me he was going to kill me… but found out by being around me that I was a good guy and that he did not know why he should kill a good person. He later wrote an article in an Islamic newspaper called “Why should we kill Americans?” And in it he talked about our relationship and how he had changed his mind. Shortly after he wrote this he disappeared. I believe he was killed because of what he said and wrote.
It is not about our government. It is about theirs!
Posted by: Kelly | June 18, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Actually, Muslim extremists did not begin targeting the U.S. until Dubya’s father permanently stationed troops in Saudi “The home of Mecca!” Arabia, beginning with the first gulf war. So you can still blame a Bush…
Posted by: Mikey | June 18, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Time to immigrate to Canada. At least they have FREE HEALTH CARE!
Posted by: Tu Amor | June 18, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Money is priority over security.
w has created many more terrorists by the Iraq occupation.
Read the NIE report.
Quit whining and grow a freaking spine.
Geez.
Posted by: Joe Wilson | June 18, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
It doesn’t matter what we did or didn’t do, these extremists are dedicated to ending the very freedoms that allows you to post in reply to this story. It isn’t about right or left, it is about the very future of our way of life. The fight is in Afganistan and Iraq today, as soon as we withdraw and maybe sooner it will be on the streets of DC, NYC, LA and Chicago. It is us against them, there is no reasoning with these extremists. This is the fight of our generation and it has just started. Two decades from now, six years in Iraq will seem like nothing compared to what we will face. We need to break the will of the people supporting and/or passively allowing them to operate. It will take more that an isolated strike against some terrorist camp,it will involve living with civilian casualties, and taking them out without regards to borders and sovereign states.
Posted by: EbaJ | June 18, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Jack you are right. I think people have had a hard time looking at the world situation as a war is because the press has not given it that wording. The press is calling it other things and most people don’t know it is WAR….
Posted by: Ed | June 18, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Why SUICIDE bombers?! Get a brain! I mean really! The people who convince other people to strap bombs to themselves should act as lobbyists…they’d make more money and probably accomplish more in a shorter period of time. Such a lack of imagination.
Kiss the hand you cannot cut off.
Posted by: Steve | June 18, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Didn’t that video look like a Monty Python sketch?
I was waiting for John Cleese to jump out and sa, “And now for something completely different…”
Posted by: Couch | June 18, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
BBBBbut I thought we were fighting them over there so we wouldn’t have to fight them her.?!
Posted by: jim | June 18, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
They graduate in June as well. Uh huh. Nothing more easily scared than a ‘Merican.
Posted by: Dave Evans | June 18, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Jack is wrong. Everyone doesn’t hate the US. Only the Democrats do (just kidding). Seriously, even the French wised up and voted a Pro-US guy.
Everytime one of you knuckleheads say, “See, it’s Bush’s fault”, you’re playing into the propagandists’ hands.
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
I don’t recall the U.S. being in Afghanistan before Sept. 11th, but I recall jets hitting buildings and thousands of truly innocent people being killed for doing nothing more than getting up in the morning and going to work.
We are at war people. None of us wanted this war, but we better get used to fighting it and stop pretending if we pull out they will leave us alone. I’m confident that it is better that we kill these blood thirsty madmen before they get the chance to come here and kill more Americans.
Posted by: Rick | June 18, 2007, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
I agree that violence-loving extremist radical fundamentalists should be banished from the US. Start with Pat Robertson and the right wing nut jobs who are carrying on this blog campaign to trash ABC. They can take their guns with them, and since they are so brave and manly they can fight their terrorists themselves somewhere else, not with other people’s children as these armchair warriors do now. The crazy fundamentalists on both sides want Armageddon. Go for it. We’ll buy your ticket to Afghanistan. Enjoy your war.
Posted by: DownWithABC | June 18, 2007, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
United States, Canada, Great Britain and Germany? I thought they only hated the US. Gee whiz can someone please tell the terrorists?
Bali, Philippines, etc., etc., etc is there no safe place? Why no there isn’t and there isn’t because terrorism is not about the US.
Posted by: Sonnaille | June 18, 2007, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
We are all being lied to… wake up
Posted by: M | June 18, 2007, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Hey, lets get a few of our guys wearing white hoods and take a picture. Then, lets get some media idiots to come watch. Now lets tell them we are going to go kill them and they will get scared and start blamming their president. Man, glad it didn’t work for the KKK.
Posted by: Hector | June 18, 2007, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
The enemy is unable to coordinate complicated 9/11 style attacks, therefore they are reverting to low-tech suicide bombings.
Posted by: Arbor | June 18, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Gee, and Bush said they would come from Iraq.
Wrong again, stupid Chimp.
Posted by: bb | June 18, 2007, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Our treasonous leaders just will not leave those people alone over there. Exxon, BP, and Shell have 30 year contracts in Iraq so the American taxpayers and soldiers blood has to support their presence. Clinton had to put a base in Saudi Arabia which led directly to 9-11. We should have let Sadaam have Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and everything would be cool right now.
Posted by: doug lominac | June 18, 2007, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
oh sure…it’s Bush’s fault {Dr. Evil} rrriiiggghhhttt
Posted by: robert lackey | June 18, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
After reading some of the comments here, I can’t help but feel we almost deserve the next attack.
These people are training to kill us and we still think it’s all about politics. Remember that when CNN is showing us pictures of women and children blown to bits.
Posted by: Tom | June 18, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Where the hell is a DAISY CUTTER when you need one?!!!
Posted by: brad | June 18, 2007, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
OK, to those that think this video is to goad us into an Iran war, let’s look at the facts before waving the PC propoganda that the terrorists are just misunderstood that need coddling and we should blame America for everything:
1. The training camp in the video is located in Pakistan, NOT Iran.
2. Pakistan is a nuclear club Islamic “ally” which has exported nuclear technology know how to Iran & Saddam era Iraq (remember all that documentation we found kiddies?).
3. Committing the amount of troops in Iraq to Afghanistan would not stop Osama and his cronies from cranking out suicide bombers in Pakistan, unless they crossed the border and destabilised the Musharaff government in Pakistan-which would have made Iraqi violence look like a trip to Disney land as you would have had Muslim sectarian violence, as well as India, China, & Russia pushing for a land grab in the region- all with nukes and advance combat weaponry up for grabs by terrorist organisations.
4. Musharaff has really no control over his north-western border which is where Osama and his cronies have established their hideouts and bases in the amount.
Posted by: Bonko | June 18, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Let’s remember when we go to the poles for our next president. Do we really want to trust our security to the Democrats?
Posted by: Ben | June 18, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Let’s catch them if we can, change their mindsif we can, kill them if we can’t.
We have no choice. Waiting for them to win is immoral.
Posted by: Kevin McDonald | June 18, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
History– Terrorist around since time as we know it. It’s been are foreign Policy for decades. Read history in Middle East.
Posted by: Rick | June 18, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Gee, and Bush said they would come from Iraq.
I can’t believe he’s wrong again.
Posted by: BB | June 18, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Here’s some research: We keep getting told that the Iraq War is being fought so that they don’t follow us over here. Well, looks like that’s just not the case, huh?
And, yes, 9/11 was W’s fault – he and his administration ignored repeated warnings, such as the 8/2001 paper titled, “Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US.” Think that might have a been a little hint? And his policies have enraged the Muslim world, just as our policies have enraged the Muslim world for the last 40 years!!!
Hmmm…wonder why Iran doesn’t trust us? Could it be because we supported the brutal Shah despite Iranians overwhelmingly being opposed to him? Or maybe it’s because we sold weapons to both Saddam and Iran during the 80′s in the hopes they’d kill each other off?
As for the rest of the Mid-East, perhaps people are stupid and they find it somewhat of a double-standard that the US runs it’s mouth about democracy but supports authoritarian regimes in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt. You know, they just might think that us Yanks are full of crap; that we’re really just out for our own good, the rest of the world be damned.
Posted by: jaywillie | June 18, 2007, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
And I bet they come in thru the Mexican border.
Posted by: Richard | June 18, 2007, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
“The fruits of our evil labors are coming to bear and now innocent civilians will likely pay for the mistakes made by the leadership (or lack thereof) of our country.”
As opposed to the 3,000 innocent civilians that died before the ‘mistakes’ were made?
Posted by: Tim | June 18, 2007, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
PROPAGANDA! PROPOGANDA! PROPOGANDA!
Our Government is engaged in a war on WE THE PEOPLE! Just you watch and see our CORRUPT politicians ask for MORE power and more TREASONOUS legislation to SHRED what’s left of our Rights!
DON’T BELIEVE THIS LATEST BS!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Posted by: American Patriot | June 18, 2007, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
I say we turn Texas into one big security/prison complex. Then we can put George Bush, Dick Cheney, and all of the border paranoids in the state where they can be protected. Sweet Lord, I’ve never seen so many people terrified of other people like you so-called conservatives. Do you check under the bed after you say your prayers and before you turn out the lights?
Posted by: Innocent Bystander | June 18, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
In reference to your pictures and story about suicide bombers coming to America, England and other places. Ask yourself this question: Is showing these pictures and telling this story helping the terrorist’s propaganda war? Terrorists thrive on media coverage and that’s why they provide you with video of the killing of American soldiers being blown up. Showing this stuff tells me that you have a contact that can pinpoint killers that need to be destroyed instead of photographed. Think about it when one of these nuts kills a bunch of Americans. You will no doubt blame it on the President even though these killers hit us at least 5 times before Bush took office. Your actions are helping the enemy. Shame on you.
Posted by: bob | June 18, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Dems and Reps have a problem on their hands. You think we need to close the borders today. It is a Security thing. Laws people they work. I dont mind people coming to the US legally.
Posted by: stephen glaug | June 18, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
I wonder if the young suicide bombers-in-training realize that they are being used by their leaders, who would never don the suicide vest and sacrifice their lives. If their leaders aren’t willing to commit suicide, why should they?
Posted by: Joseph Schmoeh | June 18, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
I see a bunch of ignorant rants here. There is nothing worse than a little knowledge, especially when it is accompanied with little understanding.
Dj and historian, thanks by the way.
Posted by: Buddy | June 18, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
the freaks are taking over. our government is trading in fear, and too many of you are buying it.
step away from all the hysteria and ask yourself one question: just who benefits from all this fear and war?
when you’re afraid, you’re easy to manipulate.
and more terrorists is good for halliburton.
Posted by: lonesomerobot | June 18, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
andyin75067…as a hispanic…I must admit that was funny.
On another note, it is very sad to read some of the justifications posted for the hate islamist extremist have towards America. I felt like I was reading some Al Qaeda manual on how to justify their hate: Mosadegh, Saddam, Noriega, etc.
How sad!
Posted by: Tony | June 18, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
It’s good to see that there are a number of Americans who are passionate about the war on terror. I wonder how many of them are in the US military. What are you waiting for?
Posted by: brian | June 18, 2007, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
YOU GUN OWNERS ARE HILLARIOUS..IF A CAR PULLS UP IN FRONT OF YOU AND BLOWS UP WHAT GOOD ARE YOUR GUNS GOING TO DO?? WE HAVE 150,000 HEAVILY AREMED TROOPS IN IRAQ AND WE STILL CAN’T PREVENT SUICIDAL BOMBERS..PUT YOUR PEE-SHOOTERS AWAY BEFORE YOU KILL SOME INNOCENT PERSON YOU THOUGHT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SUICIDE BOMBER..CAN YOU SAY “OOPS”
Posted by: Pajeff2 | June 18, 2007, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Lets hurry and get that amnesty immigration bill passed so all the suicide bombers can become US citizens. TWELVE YEAR OLD suicide bombers in school with your children BLOWING THEM TO PIECES!”
good job open borders idiots!
Posted by: Dreadmore | June 18, 2007, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
What is this?
A bunch of people lamely waving little flags surrounded by armed guards?
Did these ‘suicide bombers’ seem that gung-ho to you?
This smells pretty suspicious to me.
Posted by: mick hale | June 18, 2007, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
These extremists don’t hate us for our freedoms. That line is US propaganda used to evade the real reason which is that they despise our presence in their countries. Minor point, but worth stating, nonetheless.
I understand the sentiments of those blaming the current administration in Washington for the level of hatred being hurled at the US now. Building permanent bases in Iraq and all the talk of a prolonged occupation is exactly what the radical Muslims are using to recruit soldiers in their fight against foreign occupation and the foreign presence in their countries throughout the Arab world.
If their main export was wheat, we wouldn’t be in this mess. If not for the dependence on oil, the US and our allies wouldn’t be there. I recognize that the current reality is that we depend on that oil to run our economies, but is basing our armies in the very lands that hate us the best move? I don’t think so, and I too disagree with this current administration’s moves to do so.
That can surely be blamed on Bush and his like.
Posted by: eLad in MO | June 18, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Watch and pray, my friends…
Posted by: Just U. Wait | June 18, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Thanks DJ and historian for presenting some facts and nuanced views of the issues.
There are too many ignorants rants here that one should not even waste time reading them- nothing worse than a minuscule knowledge. They appear to regurgitate what they were told by another ignoramus.
Posted by: Bud | June 18, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Our soldiers have been getting wiped out in other countries since the 80′s. To say that Bush is the root of all problems is like ridiculous and short-sighted as well as partisan. If you really and truly believe that, you are a dangerous person to be around. How can you even deny there is a war on terror? Wake up – the culture war is here and we are at least lucky enough to get a warning before we have to change our lives to protect our way of life.
Posted by: Latino for Freedom | June 18, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
When you’re pushed… Killing is as easy as breathing.
Posted by: Rambo | June 18, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
First of all, I’m not too worried about these guys doing a lot of damage beyond making a lot of people hyperventilate. The country is more vigilant now than is was pre-9/11, when Engineer George got caught asleep at the switch. Furthermore, if they think we’re having a tough time re-inventing Iraq, wait until they try to bend US to THEIR will.
And if you want to lay blame, there’s plenty to go around. Put it first on our side for Bush43′s Holy Crusade and Bush41′s cozying up to the oil-oozing Saud family. Bin Laden only knew us as the guys who helped drive the Soviets from Afghanistan before 41 put our troops into Saudi Arabia. That is not to exonerate UBL and his kind: their religiously-fueled tunnel vision gives them license in their minds to kill civilians for the cause, just as it does in the minds of our Western leaders. Sure doesn’t take much for a charismatic leader to whip up shallow thinkers into a frenzy, does it?
The real problem, equally endemic to both sides of this conflict, can be summed up in a single word: ignorance.
Posted by: open eyes | June 18, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
It’s just a matter of time before martial law is declared and ALL elections are suspended. LONG LIVE THE KING, for he is the only one can keep us safe from the terrorists.
Posted by: cruiser | June 18, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Y’know all those thousands of people who came lined the streets threw, flowers, and waved American Flags and kissed and hugged W. They were all Muslim. Albanians.
What a bunch of whiners. “Oh, I’m so scared!” “Let’s NUKE ‘EM ALL!!! Before they do it to us!!!”
You could bomb the whole world and slit every throat you fear and still you wouldn’t be safe and you know it.
Posted by: harley | June 18, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
It is my opinion that President Bush went into Iraq in the belief that if Afghanistan and Iraq where to become democratic counties that Iranian citizens would stand up and toss out the extremist. Then the country that really supports 90 percent of the terrorist activity in the world fold up and goes away. Now because of the idiots like Cindy Sheehan and certain politicians who want to be re-elected we have given the extremist the keys to winning the war. We have turned this into another Viet Nam. We the people have done it not the troops who are doing their best to save our country and way of life.
Posted by: Larr | June 18, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
I think most of the world agrees with me when I say that anybody who still supports Bush is either on the payroll or a brainless idiot.
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
When you realize that a lot of people on this board who support the Tyrant and the failure in Iraq, no matter what you realize there is a low grade civil war simmering, not in Iraq, but right here in the U.S. Homeland! Honest 2 X!
Posted by: Post American | June 18, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Heckuva job.
So much for fightin’ ‘em over there so we don’t have to fight ‘em over here.
Any other the wingnut talking points left?
Maybe bombing innocent people in Iran will make them like us more.
Posted by: starwheel | June 18, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
There were more attacks on us under Clinton than the present administration. Get the facts, don’t be dumb.
Posted by: Thos Weatherby | Jun 18, 2007 5:55:22 PM
There are more attacks on “us” in Iraq any given single day than there were during the entire 8 year Clinton presidency. You are the one who is “dumb” and it is you who needs to “get the facts”.
Furthermore, no has claimed that Bush is responsible for creating radical Muslim terrorism. His polices, however, have made it much worse. Anyone who denies this is not living in reality.
Posted by: markroge | June 18, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
“Yeah, it is definitely our president’s fault, muslim extremists did not harbor any hatred towards the west before Bush took office. (sarcarsm…) Do some research before posting here.”
Fool—do your own research. Clinton was the Prez for the first wtc bombing by muslim extremists.
Posted by: Thomas | June 18, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Distraction needed ASAP…questions about missing emails.
From the National Anthem: “Land of the free and home of the BRAVE”. Are we cowards? We need a strong, responsive government run by leaders that BELIEVE in government (not just tax dollars going to their rich buddies to pretend to provide contract services) to keep us safe. America does not do well under the cloud of fear. Fear makes people do stupid things. Aren’t we better than that? We need to fear death by McDonald’s fries or car accidents than by Islamic “terrorists”. Get a grip.
Posted by: DB | June 18, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
I was stationed in Pakistan from 1955 to 1959, and I can state with certainty that Americans and Europeans were hated by a segment of the population even then.
I was stationed in Baghdad from mid 1965 until the 6 Day War broke out and we had to leave, and, believe me, many hated the Americans and Europeans even then, and many of our acquaintances were arrested during this period, and some were killed.
Anyone who believes that the hatred of the West by Arab fundamentalists is new, or the fault of any of our governments is a naif.
Posted by: Andy | June 18, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
It’s a miracle with all the left-wing idiots defending terrorists/terrorism as a rational response to our “US imperialism” and other so-called maladaptive behaviors on our part that we haven’t yet had suicide bombers in the US.
You can be sure it’s not for a lack of them trying.
Posted by: Dot | June 18, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Thank how bad it will get when Mrs. Bill Clinton is elected by the lame brains of this once great nation
Posted by: SFC/Ret. Robert Odom | June 18, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
What if the suicide bombers are already amongst us and this video was the signal for them to attack?
Posted by: Chris | June 18, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
The 9/11 Commission Report defined the enemy as “worlwide Islamic Jihad.”
The members of the Commission were condemned as “libs,” just like every other thinking person in America at the time.
Better we fight “evil.” And don’t ask questions. After all, no military draft, no war tax, and zero oil conservation. What else could America ask of its Warrior in Chief?
Posted by: mudfish | June 18, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
At some point (before we blow up the world) it would be great if coutries stopped the rhetoric, put old issues aside and had a meanigful conversation about how to bring about peace…. I mean in 2007 have we just been able to upgrade our weapons from stones and clubs? Shameful…I hope my children live in more reasonable and peaceful times.
Posted by: David | June 18, 2007, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
There were more attacks on us under Clinton than the present administration. Get the facts, don’t be dumb.
Posted by: Thos Weatherby | Jun 18, 2007 5:55:22 PM
There are more attacks on “us” in Iraq any given single day than there were during the entire 8 year Clinton presidency. You are the one who is “dumb” and it is you who needs to “get the facts”.
Furthermore, no has claimed that Bush is responsible for creating radical Muslim terrorism. His polices, however, have made it much worse. Anyone who denies this is simply not living in reality.
Posted by: markr | June 18, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Stop the illegals from entering the usa from canada and mexico however they wont, something will happen then we will hear our senator lie some more. I cant stand these guys.
Posted by: Scott | June 18, 2007, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I couldn’t understand why, if Allied Intelligence had all of this information, to include who’s brother was there and most probably the location of this terrorist graduation (from a Madrassa – most likely), why they didn’t destroy it with a massive airstrike….then I realized it was because the headlines would read CHILDREN KILLED BY US LED AIRSTRIKE ON SCHOOL.
Posted by: bucko | June 18, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
To get grounded in how the various Muslim factions versus the rest of the world arrived to where we are today, read “The Looming Tower”. Then you can see whose comments on this thread make sense and whose doesn’t.
Posted by: boppa | June 18, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
everyone on this website is a political activiist and, yes, there are now 50 million political activists in U.S. There are no more voters left.
Posted by: peter walsh | June 18, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
The face-first heat blast of abject ignorance and atavistic jingoism displayed here is absolutely spectacular, but, sadly, not surprising.
Posted by: pox | June 18, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Ug, More fear mongering. The latest manufactured boogy-man, Islamic terrorists.
I’m far more concerned about the terrorists here in the US, the ones that planned and implemented 9-11, to great effect, to further the amount of money and power now concentrated in the MIC.
After creating a culture of fear & hate, which now permeates American society, it was easy to dupe the masses into going to ‘war’ with Iraq. Why are we there anyway? Oh yeah, among other things we’re attempting to control some of the last large oil reserves as global supplies began to decline. This is the economic reality the American people are unwilling to face – without access to lots of cheap oil our economy will implode.
We, as Americans are the #1 terrorists on the planet at this point. Those whom feel otherwise should brush up on recent history, especially our last 50 years of meddling in the ME. Even before the Iraq invasion these people has legitimate reasons to hate us – now after the mayhem and destruction in Iraq they have exponentially more reasons to hate us. We’ve killed and maimed far more people and families there then they’ll likely ever be able to reciprocate.
Now that we’ve sown the seeds of hate the consequences will be with us for decades. What comes around goes around.
Posted by: boof | June 18, 2007, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Question; Do you have to be an idiot to post here?
Answer: No but it helps.
Posted by: Jebb | June 18, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Wow, I thought the war on terror was just a made-up slogan of the of the Bush administration…someone please wake up John Edwards so he can read this story.
Posted by: Robert Korn | June 18, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
It is my opinion that President Bush went into Iraq in the belief that if Afghanistan and Iraq where to become democratic counties that Iranian citizens would stand up and toss out the extremist. Then the country that really supports 90 percent of the terrorist activity in the world fold up and goes away. Now because of the idiots like Cindy Sheehan and certain politicians who want to be re-elected we have given the extremist the keys to winning the war. We have turned this into another Viet Nam. We the people have done it not the troops who are doing their best to save our country and way of life.
Posted by: Larr | June 18, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
It’s not that difficult to grasp.
When you go around starting wars, sooner or later the enemy is going to find a way to fight back.
What did we think the politics of panic would invite?
Posted by: starwheel | June 18, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I think everyone is wrong. Drop the talking points and Dem vs. Rep mentality. Lets start thinking on our own.
Posted by: Jack | June 18, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Anyone who feels this is the fault of this administration knows nothing of history. The notion that any side in a struggle is more noble than the other is ignorant. All conflicts are about shift in power and global influence AND neither side is ever innocent.
Posted by: Robet | June 18, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I guess W will not longer have the “they will attack over here is we don’t fight them in Iraq” nonsense to screech anymore. We are waisting lives and money in Iraq and still they are going to attack us here.
The fact is this: IT IS AMERICAN POLICY THAT IS CAUSING THE HATRED WE SEE IN THE ARAB WORLD. I do not want to “blame” my country. But I also do not want to ignore the facts on the ground. We cause hatred with are obnoxious oil driven policies. Bush did not cause this but he has made it much much worse. That is a simple fact. Know nothing conservatives and the greed machine that eggs them on can have their opinions but they cannot have their facts.
Posted by: john Smart | June 18, 2007, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
i don’t like the violence associated with our run ins with the islamic world, but i do like to see the clips of those peeps gathering, dancing around and yelling and shooting guns in the air while holding up mind blowingly large posters of an older fellow (it seems like it’s always the same guy too) and burning stuff.
i bet there’s a gigantic posters & go on every corner over there.
Posted by: Billy | June 18, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I get it, from now on every terrorist attack is Bush’ fault. Those of you who blame everything on Bush need to think again. Whos fault was 9/11? We should be thanking Bush for keeping us safe and keeping these guys on the run.
Posted by: aaron | June 18, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Everyone should read “Wild Fire”, by Nelson DeMille.
Posted by: Pilgrim | June 18, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
regardless of your political affiliation, sentiment towards president Bush, feelings about Muslims, and Islam in general, all of us should at least agree to be americans. islamic terrorists will never disappear. they embrace death the way that most westerners embrace life. they will not “leave us alone” if we elect a new leader who promises to be nice to them. they are not like anyone you know, it is an entirely different mode of thinking. the fact of the matter is that the US will retaliate in one of two ways to extremist jihadis.
1. we can take precursory action, ie securing the borders, supporting possible middle eastern democracies (which may in fact, fail), and hunting down these deluded murderers in the streets of middle eastern cities.
or…
2. we will adopt a policy of tolerance and appeasment, allowing terrorists to freely awaken the sleeping giant over years. if given enough time and freedom, they will nuke us. but they can never destroy america. we will draft an army larger than any in our history, regardless of where the funds come from. we will put countless boots on their soil and wipe these people out. unavoidably, many americans and innocent civilians will die.
It is time for you to choose which scenario is better. they are not going to forget about us, they are too poor and angry for that. do we take what measures we can now, despite domestic criticism? or do we wait until several major attacks on our soil have gone unanswered and we really get down to business?
to those of you who believe the opposite, that we should live and let live to end extremist attacks and american invasions, i say this: we may think differently. we may have disparate moral and religious beliefs. we may vote differently and pursue different form of happiness. but we are both americans and islamic terrorists are nothing like you or i. we have never strapped bombs to children.
wake up, america. vote in ’08. write to your representatives and tell them what you want. close the borders, but embrace legal immigrants. ask for better healthcare and support for our soldiers. this is your republic.
Posted by: g freeman | June 18, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
In reference to your pictures and story about suicide bombers coming to America, England and other places. Ask yourself this question: Is showing these pictures and telling this story helping the terrorist’s propaganda war? Terrorists thrive on media coverage and that’s why they provide you with video of the killing of American soldiers being blown up. Showing this stuff tells me that you have a contact that can pinpoint killers that need to be destroyed instead of photographed. Think about it when one of these nuts kills a bunch of Americans. You will no doubt blame it on the President even though these killers hit us at least 5 times before Bush took office. Your actions are helping the enemy. Shame on you.
Posted by: bob | June 18, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Uh, Mr. Potatohead? George Bush never served in Vietnam in the Air National Guard. He hid out there because his father could allow him to do that instead of “running away” (Clinton was getting his advanced college degree which Bush still couldn’t do now)and his attendance and skills in the National Guard were mediocre and far removed from anything threatening to say the least.
Hell, John Kerry went to Vietnam! But all the right wing could do was disgrace the guy and find a way to belittle it while their man was nothing more than a sham.
It never ceases to amaze ME how poorly educated and informed the love-Bush, hate-the rest of the world crowd is.
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2007, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Bush’s culpability lies in a criminal unwillingness to guard our borders. He has no moral authority to send our young men overseas to die in the war on terrorism when he is so criminally negligent in protecting our borders at home. I voted for this turkey twice, and I’m not sure now that Kerry wouldn’t have been better – and that’s not saying much.
Bush is the Republican version of Jimmy Carter.
An old veteran
Posted by: Lee | June 18, 2007, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Look to the head of the snake.
Who subsidizes Hamas and is sending and improving the rockets landing in Israel
Who exports weapons, training and explosives. to Iraq
Who is sending arms and training to Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Iran is the snake head and its rulers who have been exporting poison and death to its own people and others since the fall of the Shah.
Posted by: Gordon | June 18, 2007, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
why can conservatives see what is as plain as day: Bush has made the world much less safe with his reckless, stupid, vicious attack on a country that did not attack us. As a liberal I am sick of being to nice to say this: those who still support Bush are – stupid. his policy toward Iraq has been so stupid it hurts my head to even think about it. young Americans have died for nothing – except Haliburton. Any Democrat will do a better job than these fools have done. Invading Iraq is the worse decision any President has made since 1859. Bush caused this This is simple truth. Face facts Right wingers- once agian liberals were corect all along and conservatives were wrong. As far as Iraq goes – we told you so. If we get attacked here it is because liberals were not listened to.
Posted by: john Smart | June 18, 2007, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
All of you who think none of this would have happened if it wasn’t for President Bush are BLIND. I am a conservative but I disagree with ALOT of things Bush has done. Basically because he is not a true conservative when it comes to fiscal issues, less gov’t, and the fact that he bt off more than he could chew in the war on terror. We should have wiped out the taliban, wiped out Hamas, wiped out Sadaam and left! We should have never even tried to rebuild over there. Let them do it themselves for once.
Posted by: Dave | June 18, 2007, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Reading these comments reaffirms to me that so many Americans are extremely well hard-wired to just not get it.
They also reaffirm that the most likely outcome of twisted Muslim hatred and America’s refusal to acknowledge its causes will be to turn the US into a police state, and the rest of the world into an open-air prison/free-fire zone.
And so it will be, until the coming social and environmental collapse that will mercifully trigger our well-deserved species extinction.
Have a nice day :)
Posted by: Anon | June 18, 2007, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
As the father of 2 career Army troops… one of whom is now in Afghanistan, I really love how you armchair warriors manage to waddle over to the keyboard and postulate about how right and noble this idiotic “war on terror” is.
Yep…. this “war” is so important to “We, The People” that the US military now has 35,000 non-citizens on active duty… adding 8,000 a year. And.. did you see where the congress wants to actively recruit “eligible” illegals, trading a 2-year enlistment for citizenship. A mercenery army is the beginning of the end of the Republic.
But… go ahead…. wave those flags, stick another of those made-in-red-china yellow “I support the troops” stickers on that SUV.
Posted by: Dutch | June 18, 2007, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Wrong. The only people who hate us are those within our own country. The rest, including the terrorists, fear us.
Posted by: jfeet28 | June 18, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Blaming Bush for this is just plain ignorant. Doesn’t anyone every remember the USS Cole, or the first attack on the WTC? Ridiculous, plain and simple.
Posted by: Trijcomm | June 18, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Has anyone read the David Kay report?
Has anyone listened to VP Al Gore?
Both of these people railed about terrorists in Iraq.
My Question is what would you have done with the 10,000 tons of uranium, the us removed from Iraq after the war. What about the 5,000 tons which went to Iran?
Iraq has been linked to the Oklahoma city bombing and the 1st and 2nd world trade center bombings.
Also The US drove al-quada out of Afghanistan into Pakistan. Pakistan is an al-quada country. The projected deaths from invading pakistan was 75,000. People are screaming about 3,500
which is a terrible loss.
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
navin .. you sound like Quint it Jaws (the movie) ,when he told the chief and a Young Richard Dreyfus, (i forget the characterts name, that he’e lead the Shark , Jaws into the shallows and drown him.
We should have stayed out of Iraqfrom the get go , left the cork in the bottle , that be Saddam , and sealed the borders.
President Bush’ over zealous plan wa trumped on suspect intelligence which has created more terrorists. Believe it or not. This ain’t Ripley.
Posted by: chris | June 18, 2007, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Better suspend habeas corpus, quick. If there’s another such video: martial law. All hail Dear Leader!
Posted by: fgill | June 18, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
What children’s book will W be reading the next time we’re attacked?
Posted by: dave | June 18, 2007, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
This kind of crap is exactly what Bush & Dick Cheney have been spouting for years, and is a key GOP talking point “if we don’t win over there, they will follow us home.”
Well, apparently, either way, they follow us home. That’s all the excuse this administration needs to declare marshal law and suspend elections.
ABC has been a platform and source of so much right-wing crap lately, it’s hard to know what to believe.
Posted by: Smoketurtle | June 18, 2007, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Look further back in history and blame america’s foreign policy of meddling with the affairs of other countries from latin america to the middle east and in asia…. It’s no wonder the world hates the US of A.
It’s not about the president, its about the policies that have been implemented by the backroom boys and carried out by the CIA under the guise of spreading democracy and ensuring a ‘friendly’ regime is in place to cater to american interests.
Posted by: paradiz | June 18, 2007, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
America needs to restore its Constitution and stop trying to build a world empire; the Founding Fathers warned us not to get involved in everyone’s political affairs because we would get drawn into them. We have troops stationed in more than 100 countries and our desire to take over the world is the main reason we are being attacked. If the US is serious about terrorism then our leaders should control the border NOW. How can President Bush talk about a global war on terror when our borders are wide open?
Posted by: Brian | June 18, 2007, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Some of these comments are rediculous. They terrorists are angry so we should stop fighting them. Some people are out of touch with reality.
Posted by: Evan | June 18, 2007, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Its just a matter of time!
Posted by: Pat | June 18, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
I thought the propaganda was “fight them over there so we won’t have to fight the here”. To bad this president screwed up and forgot the ‘over there’ was Afghanistan NOT Iraq. What arrogant fools!
Posted by: Joe | June 18, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Just a hint of a threat and you cowards start posting about how its W’s fault. Since 9/11 most of the terrorists have been killed in Afganistan and Iraq. Instead of outrage at this you want George’s head. I guess you would rather have Barabas released.
Posted by: Steven Roberts | June 18, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Thank God Bush has secured the border.
Posted by: Braden | June 18, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Fear, Fear, Fear and more Fear. That is the only product that Bush and the Neocons and the GOP generally have to sell. Hopefully most Americans have stopped buying it.
Posted by: Gerry | June 18, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
So… I guess “fighting them over there” isn’t working too well, is it? I guess it’s working out about as well as the pursuit and capture of Osama Bin Laden.
Well, thank God at least the Clinton administration captured, tried, and jailed the perpetrators of the 1993 WTC attack. Oh yeah… and they also prevented the LAX Millenium attack by capturing the bomber at the US border.
And didn’t he preside over the Kosovo war without a single American casualty?
Damn that Clinton. Always screwing up and doing the right thing.
He handed Bush the reins of the presidency of a country with zero debt, and even a surplus. Where are we now?
Right wing mental midgets.
Here’s something for you 29 percenters whose support for Bush will not be enough to save him… sorry.
“Life is hard. It’s even harder when you’re stupid.” -John Wayne
Posted by: Basher72 | June 18, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
The ONLY way to defeat this threat against our way of life is to take it to the enemy, not to deny the war even exists in the first place (a la Edwards’ bumper sticker comment.)
Posted by: Truth Ache | Jun 18, 2007 6:00:56 PM
That’s what we did in Iraq, take the fight to them. Is it working?
Posted by: markr | June 18, 2007, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Give me a break. Why does anyone still belief this garbage? Code red! No liquids! Duct tape and plastic! They’re there, no here. No, it’s more propaganda because the mountain of corruption is so large and smelly the carpet is 10 feet high. Oh, and 70% of the population wants out of Iraq.
Posted by: anon | June 18, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
There were more attacks on us under Clinton than the present administration. Get the facts, don’t be dumb.
Posted by: Thos Weatherby | Jun 18, 2007 5:55:22 PM
There are more attacks on “us” in Iraq any given single day than there were during the entire 8 year Clinton presidency. You are the one who is “dumb” and it is you who needs to “get the facts”.
Furthermore, no has claimed that Bush is responsible for creating radical Muslim terrorism. His polices, however, have made it much worse. Anyone who denies this is simply not living in reality.
Posted by: markr | June 18, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Well, the Canadian dollar has been appreciating pretty good this year so at least it will cost these guys plenty to get here! Oh yeah and wake me up when a credible source is found for the story!!!!
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Since they have graduated maybe we can give them a “student visa” so that they can continue their studies here in the US.
Posted by: Pedro | June 18, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
As each day passes it becomes more and more apparent.
9-11 was an inside job.
Posted by: Keith H. | June 18, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Wow,
Too bad bush in 2002 outsourced bin-laden’s capture to the northern alliance that was made up of bin-laden allies.
What a blow to the Terrorists, if we would have actually captured bin-laden instead of giving them a giant requirement poster of “I told you So” by invading Iraq. I wonder how many terrorist trainees it would have deterred by having bin-laden’s head paraded around Times Square.
Sorry I know but, but, Clinton and the democrats hug bin-laden.
I wonder how many of you bushbots support bombing Pakistan whose unelected government not only harbors bin-laden and also A.Q.Kahn who sold N.Korea the plutonium and technology it needed to build it’s nukes that you all blame Clinton for?
I know that doesn’t fit in with your video game mentality, maybe you should release Adults win in the war on terror, children just die.
Posted by: Curt | June 18, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
“BLOW-BACK” EVERYONE! THE ATTITUDES, ACTIONS, LACK OF FORESIGHT OF THE SO-CALLED “LEADERS” OF THE WEST HAVE CREATED, AIDED, AND ABETTED THOSE OF THE EAST INCLUDING MOSLEMS. WHAT DID THEY, AND YOU WHO SUPPORTED UN-QUALIFIED ATTACKS ON SMALLER COUNTRIES FROM SERBIA TO SOME AFRICAN BACK-WATER THINK WOULD HAPPEN? OF COURSE THAT IS THE PROBLEM…NOT THINKING!
Posted by: mongo | June 18, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
You people do not get it, OIL OIL OIL. No dependence on OIL = No Terorists. OIL is big business and money, Human life is secondary. If anything we should attack the Saudis they are the ones that attacked us NOT IRAQ. Get it.
Posted by: Jim | June 18, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
For those of you who can’t figure this out yet They hate us and even pulling out won’t solve the problem now.
Posted by: Doral | June 18, 2007, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I thought the World Trade Centers had been bombed before during President Clinton’s term by Muslim extremists.
The main reason the Muslim extremist hate the US is because of the US support of Israel.
Posted by: James | June 18, 2007, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Well when the new president is elected she will protect all of us. (sarcasm)
Posted by: wiile and Joe | June 18, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
After 9/11, shrub could have chosen to fight terrorism, or invade Iraq. What did he choose, shrubistas?
Posted by: Bill Hinchcliffe | June 18, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
This all will continue until they get the imbecile out of the White House. Yes there was anti-American sentiment before Bush but he helped to intensify it. The borders need to be secured but the imbecile, pardon my repetition, won’t do it because he wants a superhighway! He thinks, eventhough he is an imbecile, ooops repeating myself again, that he knows best and is going to do what he thinks is correct. His rhetoric smacks of a holy war which feeds into the mind set of the terrorists and he and his family are too entrenched into the Saudis who are our friends depending on how the winds blows. Finally, Bush has flaunted the Constitution, stretched it and tried to shrink it. He is a bad man!
Posted by: Wally | June 18, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Don’t you get sick of their lousy propaganda!?! I say bring it on baby. You can only threaten the Western world that much, I think we are getting tired of them. Shut the borders.
Posted by: arnold s | June 18, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
I thought we were going to “fight them over there so we wouldn’y have to fight them here”? What about that righty’s? Too bad this president has our troops in Iraq instead of Afghanistan, where the real “over there” is. Also too bad George Bush is throwing away 10 Billion a month in Iraq instead of really beefing up our borders and ports.
Heckuva job W.
Posted by: Joe | June 18, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Ok, the sarcasms getting a little old.
I’ll just say this. It’s not impossible to take a moderate person, and make them crazy. You probably consider yourselves moderates. If another country performed “Shock and Awe” on your city and then occupied you for four years while suicide bombers flourished and then (currently) is taking the rites to 2/3 of your countries resources, you might be upset. If in the process they destroyed your house, falsely imprisoned or abused a family member, or your family became displaced, you might get a little crazy.
I’m afraid if we keep on this path of finger pointing and arguing for violence we will know too well what what it feels like to have these limits pushed.
Posted by: John White | June 18, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
How convenient!
Americans have run out of patience for trillion dollar mideast snipe hunts. Our “Coalition of the willing” is drying up and our money is running out. Dubya’s numbers are back in the tank and he’s probably dragged the entire GOP with him.
What a shot in the some “terrorist” activity would be for our President! Recharge the GWOT, get congress and the press off his back and prove he was right, all in one shot! Heck, maybe even give him an excuse to attack Iran.
A cynic might claim that these “terrorists” are exactly what our worthless, scumbag President needs right now.
In fact “terrorism” would help the administration and the Neo-cons WAY more than it would benefit Osama Bin Laden.
Given their co-dependent relationship, some days I have to wonder if Dubya has Osama on the payroll.
Posted by: Jhoffa_ | June 18, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Bush did not create these problems. He inherited them from Clinton. I have been very upset with all administrations that our borders have not been secured in all these years, and that even though we gave them amnesty in ’86, a one time ‘fix it’, no one enforced the laws! This I do hold Bush accountable for, plus…where’s the fence and why are we still not enforcing the law…6 years after 922! I’m sick and tired of politicians ignoring US Citizens, and passing whatever laws they wish…to line their own pockets, at our expense! Write and call all of your representatives and tell them to secure the border, enforce current laws. Make no changes even in guest worker programs for at least 2 years!
Posted by: Txlady615 | June 18, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
sounds like they’re “bringing it on”!!!!
Posted by: mat | June 18, 2007, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Think you guys are right on–sticking our head in the sand got us 9/11–while a war was not the answer, it kept them running, and gave ‘em something to worry about! The point is, it is not longer the isolationist world we once were safe in–these nuts need to be stopped…how its done is the question we need to ask. Yes, this is a war–maybe not the Iraq one, but war all the same.
Posted by: Bob Buel | June 18, 2007, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
This is not simply a Bush phenomenon. The US has meddled throughout the world for lo these many years. Victims have included Mossadeqh in Iran (replaced by the cuddly Shah of Shahs), Allende in Chile (replaced by that old darling General Pinochet) and so forth. If the US would simply tend to its own knitting, world opinion would be less unfavourable and/or hostile.
Posted by: Robin Ewart | June 18, 2007, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Gee, sure am glad we sealed off the borders right after 9/11. /sarcasm
Posted by: Tim | June 18, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
So what if some bombs go off. They can kill people, but they can’t kill the whole country. Terrorism is committed to inspire *terror*, it’s the fear that actually harms our country, not the attacks themselves.
Posted by: Suzanne | June 18, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
They wouldn’t want to do this were it not for global warming!
Posted by: Eric | June 18, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
In Afghanistan? their made at the foreign troops in Afghanistan. Must be a mistake, because Iraq isn’t mentioned as the cause. Of course they already had success back on September 11, 2001.Hard to believe their still mad at us for invading their country, kicking out the Taliban and trying to eliminate their leaders. Well, the US has nothing to worry about Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are both committed, determined to keep us safe. But if they are why are we worried still? I mean they do support our troops they are concerned about our safety. They are people of their word, aren’t they?
Posted by: Able Easy | June 18, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Wow, so many folks here are in complete denial! Wasn’t brought on by the current administration? Sure, suicide bombers have been around for a long, long, long time, but if anyone can tell me why we’re hearing the US being targeted NOW as opposed to 30 years ago – if as some here claim “they hate us for who we are”, I’d love to hear it. The fact is the invasion of Iraq was the last straw for many people in the Middle East, and now we know what we can expect of Bush’s grand plan for oil, er, I mean freedom and democracy over there.
Posted by: pakaal | June 18, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Bush not only failed to prevent 911 [despite all the help ex-Clintonites were willing to give], he failed utterly in his reactions to it and continues to do so to this day. That will always be the greater crime, especially when you realize that every attack can’t be stopped. Bush and the minions his mindset inspires would use the terrorist threat as an excuse to deny basic rights to Americans and – if the rabid morons on this board are any gauge – to unleash a nuclear nightmare in the cause of ‘defense’. Fear is justified, but it can’t be the guiding principle of this age. Shame on you who would make it so.
Posted by: Blame America | June 18, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
I thought we had to fight them “over there” so they wouldn’t get us “over here”?
Posted by: bilsemon | June 18, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
I guess Karen Hughes’ PR campaign isn’t working.
Posted by: JJ | June 18, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Why is it liberals can’t remember that 9/11, the attack on the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, etc, happened BEFORE we went into Iraq or before President Bush got into the White House?
Radical Islam is at war with us regardless of who is President. They hate us because of who we are.
Posted by: Ian | June 18, 2007, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
ooooo, scary … mommy!
i’m always amused at all the important stories and headlines worldwide america’s alphabet soup media (abc, cbs, msnbc, cnn, ad nauseum) fail to inform ‘their’ public of – but this steno pool never fails to spike the fear factor or sleeze crap.
the fourth estate is dead – turn off the tee vee sheeple. the national security and homeland security presidential directive of may 9, 2007 is just an op away …
Posted by: hourglass | June 18, 2007, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
“Nice Going W” my left foot! Was W president in 1993 when CLINTON got the WTC bombed? How about 95, 97, or 98 when the Embassies and the Air Force Barracks got bombed? Was W president when the USS Cole got bombed in 2000?…You liberal idiots need some new material.
Posted by: JimBan | June 18, 2007, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Cutting and running to occupy Iraq is all w’s fault.
The NEI report stating the Iraq occupation increased terrorism is all w’s fault.
Where the hell is OBL?
He is in Pakistan idiots.
The buck stops with w. Period.
Posted by: 29% idiots | June 18, 2007, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
“I do not know which weapons will be used to fight World War 3, but i can tell you World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones”.. albert Einstein
Posted by: john | June 18, 2007, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
It is time to push for a new direction in our country. “Borders, Language, and Culture,” coined by a great presidential prospect, Michael Savage. He is an independent mind; it is time to protect our country and its values before it is too late. Michael Savage for President!
Posted by: Brian | June 18, 2007, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Interesting that the people who are the most afraid of these terrorists are the Conservatives posting here. I thought you guys were supposed to be the tough ones, the ‘strong on defense’ people, not bleating, scared sheep.
Conservatives seem to like wallowing in fear, playing out scenario after scenario that they’ve concocted from watching too much of Fox’s “24″.
They would have a dictator, they would install a king in this Country to ‘protect’ us all from a pack of gnats.
Make no mistake; that’s what those Islamists out in the deserts of Afghanistan are compared to us; gnats.
We could kill every living thing in Afghanistan down to the last blade of grass, and leave the buildings. We haven’t.
Because it would be inhumane.
And not very profitable.
The point isn’t that they hated us before Bush; it’s that he’s mishandled the situation so badly, that somehow these dullards are still able, five years in to our direct involvement, to have a graduation ceremony and invite journalists to cover it.
They might bite us, but they can NEVER defeat the United States. Not ever.
The only way to destroy the US is for us to do it ourselves, in the name of fighting an over-hyped threat.
That’s right; terrorism is a) a tactic, not an enemy and b) it’s over-hyped by demagogues who would use the threat to consolidate power.
You know, like Bush has done again, and again, and again, and again.
Posted by: Broadsword | June 18, 2007, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
I guess the response to this article points to one thing – we don’t all agree on Iraq/Afganistan, but we do get riled up when someone threatens the home soil. God Bless America – Many good responses to this article on both sides.
Posted by: Gar | June 18, 2007, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
A few facts to digest-
These terrorists are going after Brits, Americans, Canadians, and Germans. 2 out of 4 of those nations didnt paticipate or approve of the Iraq invasion or occupation.
Secondly, these videos were shot in Pakistan. If invading the desert land of Iraq, run by a hated dictator, and with a dozen UN resolutions justifying it was frought with stupidity- what would you call invading the most ruggedly mountainous area in the world where EVERY hand is turned against us and the ‘lawful’ government has nuclear weapons?
Please try to incoporate at least a shred of logical coherance into your rants against Bush. What he did might have been stupid and was certainly botched, but what some of you are suggesting as the ‘obvious’ alternative is flat out moronic.
Posted by: Mark Buehner | June 18, 2007, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Those that blame Bush have had their head in the sand too long, and they are political judgements.
You people that don’t believe that the number one priority here in the states is our freedom and security should go ahead and vote with the Democrate Party.
Us, grown-ups, “get it”
Posted by: mike | June 18, 2007, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
when I was a teenager, planes where being hi-jacked, embassies bombed, marines killed in their barracks, and who knows what, what I can tell you since then, we have issues. Everbody who believes in freedom is not no more. It’s gone. Who ever want’s their freedom back will have to fight like our ancestors did. Our soldiers shouldn’t have do all the work for us, we should do something ourselves as well.
Posted by: steve s. | June 18, 2007, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Radical economic and educational inequality, radical poverty, radical injustice and radical imperial agenda feed directly into the proliferation and acceptance of radical Islamic thought.
It’s laughable that so many of you are speaking in terms of American Political parties, when the issues are much larger than a party. A party won’t defeat Islamic fundamentalism. Only when Americans are prepared to radically change America’s position in the world; from quasi-imperialist crusader to international partner for cooperation and peace, will they actually be prepared for a solution. We enjoy incredible opulence guaranteed to us by the broken backs of those in the “developing world”. This will have to change in order for true progress to be made.
Posted by: EtzHayim | June 18, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Well we had a nice little 25 year old break, and now the true test is do we even have a clue on how to handle this situation like our Grandparents had to do.
We just want our American Idol and great Cabernet from Napa. Don’t bother us ..we just want gas for 2 bucks a gallon and chicks on the Net. I prayed it wouldn’t take getting hit a second time to WAKE UP…boy ,are we are our own worse enemy. We’ll let em in,do some clean up ,then we’ll get that old guy to sing ….PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN.
Posted by: Chris | June 18, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
I am absolutely no Bush fan; but anyone that believes that it matters to the bombers who is in power here in the US, is sadly undereducated about the radical muslim movement. They were coming here long before Bush or Clinton and its way past time that America realizes that and do what is necessary to protect ourselves. The first thing we need to do is elect some people to our government who understand what is happening. I would suggest that replacing this administration (Bush), the leadership in the Senate and the House (Reid and Pelosi)and a large majority of those politicians that simply are to “weak kneed” to do what needs to be done is the very first order of business. Enough of this Democrat-Republican non-sense; they are all the same. Put some people in there that are leaders – NOT politicians! – before it is to late. Post Script; Many of us believe that it is already MUCH, MUCH to late. Our government has sold us down the river and you will be on your own when the bottom falls out!!
Posted by: michael iver | June 18, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
There a lot of short memories out there.
Remember when the first President Bush decided to end the first Gulf War and not go after Saddam? If he had done so, what’s happening now would have happened then. The first President Bush was continuously bashed by the media for not taking out Saddam.
Yes, Iraq is a disaster. But, CIA Director George Tenet testified before Congress that Saddam had WMDs and was trying to acquire nuclear capability. Now, Tenet is back peddling in his new book. British, French, Israeli, US intelligence all said Saddam had WMDs. President Clinton did nothing after the attack on the USS Cole, and the US Embassy in Kenya. The 9/11 attacks were being planned before the 2000 election. Remember?
The terrorists know that we are a divided nation. They know we have neither the stomach or the will to carry on a long term struggle. Bin Laden once said that he would not attack the US if we dropped our support of Israel and if we all converted to Islam. All things considered, I recommend a crash course in Arabic and the Koran.
Posted by: Jim | June 18, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
I can’t believe that some people are blaiming Bush for the suicide bombings. I guess Iyatollah Khomenei had nothing to do with introducing this tactic and sensationalizing it back in the Iran/Iraq war then. Ignorance folks. Lets keep the blogs intelligenct.
Posted by: Dan | June 18, 2007, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Me thinks that common sense has been hijacked.
Posted by: Sanity | June 18, 2007, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Place the blame on ignorance and lack of global control.
We are a power house and we should have allies everywhere upholding our power and not being jealous of it.
USA protects and has compassion for the innocent.
what if we shut our borders and quit letting these people in and even monitored worldly travel?
All we can do is pray and protect and quit blaming George W.
this was in the works when the Clintons turned a blind eye and let Bin Laden Go.
Democrats are complete idiots and live like republicans and preach as if it is our fault.
Who wants a woman running this country????????? I pray that woman never steps foot in the oval office again.
Posted by: john | June 18, 2007, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
From CINDY: “Remove the troops from Iraq put them in Afghanistan and get the job done once and for all.”
Wow. All them terrorists are just sitting around in Afghanistan, waiting to be blown to pieces, but we’re to busy in Iraq to take the time to do it?
Folks – there are millions of extremely devoted islamist terrorists on the planet. The believe God (Allah) desires they kill anyone who does not believe what they believe. They’re willing to die for their beliefs, and that Allah will reward them. It’s really quite that simple – and that hard. They don’t just hang around on street corners like gangsters guarding turf. They’ve been attacking the West for many decades and they are well-hidden and well-funded. To think we could just swarm into Afghanistan and end it all in one big operation is foolish at best.
Until the Muslim world routes the evil out of their own ranks – the mullahs and other fanatics who sponsor these death eaters – the world will be at war with them. Get used to it, because right now the world is full of fools and cowards who think this really isn’t a global threat to mankind.
Posted by: Steve | June 18, 2007, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Bush launched a ground war in Iraq that has handed every tactical advantage to the enemy on a silver platter.
The choice to go to war in Iraq will go down AS THE BIGGEST TACTICAL MISTAKES IN THE HISTORY OF US WARFARE.
Speed and firepower are the two massive advantages of the US Army. Our troops now emply neither advantage. We have been drawn in to hand to hand combat.
I don’t care if they hated us before Bush. Bush’s pathetic tactical decisions has allowed the enemy to bleed us dry.
Posted by: Wedgie | June 18, 2007, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Seems to me that I remember something about Munich too. I believe that the year was 1972… I guess that W was already born by then… must have been his fault too!
Posted by: petkattash | June 18, 2007, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
here’s the deal, folks. press will begin to talk about the threat. they have ignored it until now, and ignored the successes against the domestic threat. they are setting us up for the next attack which will occur before Bush leaves office. it can then be blamed on George… and Hillary waltzs into the whitehouse.
Posted by: Bob | June 18, 2007, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
To Blame President Bush for suicide bombers is like blaming the rooster for the sunrise. Suicide bombers predate Bush by about fifty-five years, if you include the Japanese.
A weak country tears itself apart when confronted by evil. We have become such a country thanks to media and critics who truly ignore the truth and replace it with moral relativism.
The ignorance of the posts above is consistent with brainwashing. Read them all–they all have the same points throughout, right and left.
If we had fought this war united, it would be over by now. We have the government we deserve, on the left and right, and thus we have the results we deserve in Iraq.
The threat is real.
Posted by: Kirk | June 18, 2007, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Dear Art Freen: I have traveled extensively in Europe these past six years – six times as a matter of fact – none shorter than five weeks – and I have found no example of anti-Americanism. Yet I did find a despair at our foreign policy but that is NOT the same thing as anti=Americnism
Posted by: james Stewart | June 18, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Yes, let’s talk about terrorist attacks before W’s watch. Let’s go all the way back to October 23 1983, When Ronald Reagan was president. On that day in Beirut, Lebanon, a suicide bomber drove a truck into a U.S. Marine barracks, detonating explosives with the force of 12,000 pounds of TNT. The death toll was 241 American servicemen: 220 Marines, 18 Navy personnel and 3 Army soldiers. Sixty Americans were injured. In a simultaneous attack on a French barracks, 58 paratroopers were killed and 15 injured.
And what did Reagan, the ultimate conservative godhead do? Other than a few shellings, there was virtually no retaliation by Americans for the Beirut bombing. Talk about emboldening your enemy!
241 Americans killed, in the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima (2,500 in one day) in WWII, and the deadliest single-day death toll for the American G.I.s since the 243 killed on the first day of the Tet Offensive in Vietnam in 1968.
Reagan. Did. Nothing.
Posted by: Turner | June 18, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
What is the matter with you people???? This is not our fault!!! They are out to disrupt our economy, kill innocent people, and incite fear. All you liberals out there who think you can talk to a terrorist, reason with them are CRAZY!!! Terrorsits, suicide bombers, what ever you want to call them don’t care if you are democrat, republican, white, or black. All they want to do is kill Americans!
What have the Jewish people done to incite the violence that is brought upont them on a daily basis? The same question can be asked of us. What have we done to bring this on us? NOTHING! JHENDRIXFAN has it right that this is a clash of civilizations. We need to come together as Americans and support defeating terrorists and terrorism by whatever means necessary!
Posted by: Garrett | June 18, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
I have not read one comment about what motivates these people. They are the true Muslims. They believe they are obligated to either subjugate us and make us pay dhimmitude (thats basically a tax for serfs), convert us, or kill us. This was revealed 1400 years ago. This has nothing to do with Bush or Clinton or any US policy.
For those leftist apoligists here who say Islam is a peaceful religion because of a sura that says, “respect the people of the book,” do your homework. Allah said that when any revelation given contradicts a previous revelation, the later is to be followed. This is called abrogation. the sura above was a Meccan revelation, followed later by a revelation telling Mohammed, “strike their heads off where you find them.”
They don’t care if your republican or democrat. We are infedels, polytheists, and debaucherous liberals. They want to kill us all.
Posted by: Paul | June 18, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Lets remember who is to blame here,
Radical Islam, breeding children to hate and being trained to kill via suicide attacks for the name of their God.
This is child abuse at the highest level yet the left cares not but would rather put the blame on the U.S.
Interesting how the left cares so much about the enemy and animals yet when it comes to the children being sent on suicide missions they are silent. Or when the Islamists are killing the Native Africans in Sudan they are for the most part silent.
The left generally hates religion yet loves Islam, one of the most opressive and anti womans rights religions, with no tollerance for homosexuality or “Womans right to choose” yet the left is silent, and stands behind the oppressors, while believing the propaganda that the US is really the oppressor and the root of all evil. Amazing.
Posted by: John Davis | June 18, 2007, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Dude, simply mix their body parts with some pork and feed it to the live pigs. Once that gets back to the Muslims, the trip to paradise will not be so clear. Use their religious superstition against them. It works much better than a jdam. Duh!
Posted by: mr. obvios | June 18, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
If they start suicide bombing in the US and the other 3 or any other Free World ally…then I hope GWB and Ohlmert are ready to nuke Tehran and Damascus and stop all this PC b….s……
The yellowbellied liberals since 1963 have brought us to this point and I for one am not going down with “lighting up” the f……muslim world and put an end to all this f……b….s…..of islam.
Posted by: ladddddd | June 18, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Well, if the terrorists are coming to the U.S. to do some bombing, then our Government must protect us! I should think that: First order of business in order to protect all Americans will be to immediately ban all guns, both handguns and rifles (sporting or assault). This will make it easy to identify the bad guys. Second: increase the Homeland Security mandate with massive funding in order to make all of American much safer while giving the needed funds to increase border security by 50 or 60 special border agents. This should stop the bombers COLD as they attempt to infiltrate America. Third: Bomb Iran immediately, because they might get “The Bomb” in 10 years and have a long history of invading and bombing other countries like us and Israel. And besides, Israel wouldn’t like that very much that Iran might get the bomb. Fourth: Elect Hillary through whom as Commander and Chief of Empire America our power throughout the World will be omnipotent and flawless! Peace be on Earth!… but in case it isn’t prepare: Gladio
Posted by: JimC | June 18, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
This is all Bush and Cheneys fault! When Clinton was prez, we never had any attacks and Bin Laden was a singer in a rock band. Suicide bombers are just people with different taste in clothes. They like heavy waist bands. Come on, just cuz they blow up kids and women doesnt make them bad, just moody. If we just pull out of the Middle East, there will be peace in the world, right? Right? Did Nancy Pelosi speak at the grad ceremony for bombers? She needs to tell them to be “nice”.
Posted by: robert v. | June 18, 2007, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
When are we as a nation going to realize that we cannot talk or reason with a extremist mentality. THEY HATE WHAT YOU ARE !!! We must be prepared to fight in the way World war two was fought. Mass casualties and in a very cruel nature. We cannot be the good guys and they (the terrorists) will not leave us alone if we are nice, Wake up America we are in a fight to the finish. Not all Musilims are like this but those that are will not stop until either we or they are destroyed.
Posted by: Leonard J Goodboe | June 18, 2007, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Wow. They are almost as scary as Cho.
Posted by: Jeff | June 18, 2007, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
These people are maniacal ignorant barbarians, living in the 14th century. The problem isn’t our foreign policies, the problem is them. And further aiding the problem and fueling their vitriol and murderous plans are comments for some Americans who divert blame from the terrorists, to us. Get real and wake up!
Posted by: MDM | June 18, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
I’m with Sandy.
Anyone who thinks dubya cares (or understands,promotes,supports) ANYTHING remotely positive for anything but his bank account or doomsday gameplan needs to think a bit.
please.
Posted by: deano | June 18, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Hey folks, aren’t there suppose to be some suitcase nukes loose somewhere in the world? And what of the chemicals that can be made in the kitchen and the radium that can be scraped off of old glow in the dark Timex watches and made into a dirty bomb? If it can be thought of by some high school chemistry geek, it can be thought of by anyone.
Something I have noticed is our color code has not changed in a very, very, very long time.
If a team of non descript terrorists do make it into the US and do something, do you really think we could stop them?
I don’t blame our past or present governments for this mess. It’s always been rich versus poor (greed and power) or one religion versus another (envy and submission – my God is better than your Allah).
Posted by: OutOfWaterSC | June 18, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Fine by me, as long as they nuke L.A., New York and San Francisco. Unfortunately this is what it is going to take for liberals to wake up to this threat. They will have the most to lose from attacks like this. Setting off bombs in Smalltown Midwestern or Southern USA just doesn’t get the kind of press that NY, LA, SF, DC or others will get. Bring it on ragheads.
Posted by: Jeff | June 18, 2007, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
There’s a very good reason that the United States is the #1 terrorist target in the world, and that is American meddling and military intrusion in the Middle East prior to 2001.
Now the U.S. has decided to further escalate its aggression against muslims, which will of course lead to increased retaliatory attacks against USA, quite possibly with WMD
Posted by: Katarina | June 18, 2007, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
So I guess the bottom line is that we may be called upon to protect ourselves in the coming years. We will need our guns, our courage, and our culture. The police and military won’t be able to do it, so it will be up to us individuals. I say let’er roll!!!
Posted by: Grayhorse | June 18, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
This is obviously the fault of the ACLU, gay marriage, and Michael Moore. Oh and also no prayer in public schools.
Posted by: Lawrence Tureaud | June 18, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
How was the video obtained? Who can verify the source? Who produced it? How do we know?
This is certainly an “aggressive and sophisticated propoganda campaign,” but by whom? Muslim terrorists – who have nothing to gain by releasing it (in fact, doing so only makes it more difficult to carry out their mission)… or our own leaders – who can use it to justify their continued warmongering and trillion-dollar defense budget?
Remember, brave Americans… the only thing we have to fear is… THE TERRORISTS!!
So cower, run for cover, lock your doors, surrender your civil rights, and pray for your government to save you from the “evil terrorists,” who hate our freedoms.
Posted by: Sean | June 18, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
To suggest we’re the cause of Muslum extremist coming to the US to blow up Americans is pure stupidity!
Posted by: JIM | June 18, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Gee, the GOP controlled committee didn’t find any Republican wrongdoing.
What. A. Shock.
If they’ve found WMD’s, well, why hasn’t the administration crowed and crowed about it, hmmmmmmmm?
Posted by: Broadsword | June 18, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
The US didn’t invade Iraq because they had unusable 20 year old bio-chem shells buried and useless in the desert.
-GSD
Posted by: GSD | June 18, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Re: WMDs
There are thousands of future WMDs. If your family was killed, would you care about dying or getting even? Multiply the numbers by the number of years this american policy has been going on (back to the shah of iran and furthur). Add to it South America, Malaysia, Darfur, Rwanda…
The world hates us. We don’t know that. We’re too busy watching Paris go to jail because that is what is deemed news by the corporations who own the media. They show us Lindsey Lohan drunk rather than the daily tragedy of war.
Rise up people. Show your anger!
Posted by: Spike the Poet | June 18, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
The media directs the thoughts of many. The problem is that they are attacking the US government because we don’t kill people who don’t agree with the Peoples greater good. The other side does. So be safe media, attack our elected officials, promote propaganda as hard truth and praise the enemy.
The best part if one looks at history is the media will be the first executed if the opposition should win. I think if the media called a snake a snake terrorist couldn’t promote terror with immunity. But that would take guts.
Posted by: RWview | June 18, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
One thing we better do is get off of the hatred toward each other and put that venom where it belongs and that is on the Islamic extremist that want to kill us. If I hear one more person that blame the president for everything that goes wrong in every part of the world I’m going to give up. Please people this is war.
Posted by: Tom | June 18, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Hilary will fix everything!(yeah right)
GO RED SOX
Posted by: Tom H in Mass | June 18, 2007, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
I lay sole blame on the liberal media for this one. Al qweda knows they can win if they can get on our TV. Thanks again liberal media and internet for making Americans live in fear.
Posted by: Regulardillhole | June 18, 2007, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Johnny T writes:
“So for you morons coming out here trying to portray the US as Darth Vader’s Empire and terrorist jihadis as Luke Skywalker, you have serious mental and self-preservation problems.”
That is called a “straw man” argument. It’s performed often on Fox “News” and right-wing talk radio. Nobody ever says that we are bad and they are good, JohnnyT. Because the situation is more complicated (not simply black and white) than the way you describe it, it’s easier for you to put up a false and simplistic argument of your own design (a straw man), so you can easily and smugly knock it down.
JohnnyT writes:
“This a clash between civilization and barbarity. Which side are you on?”
That is called a “false choice.” Again, popularized on Fox “News” and right-wing talk radio. You frame a most complex argument in the most simplistic manner, then force the reader to make a yes or no decision, knowing that a volume of information must be given to flesh out the answer.
The answer is “terrorist jihadis” must be wiped off the face of the earth wherever and whenever they are found. The answer is the Bush Administration has exacerbated the situation, creating many more “terrorist jihadis” by torturing and killing their friends and relatives; building a base on sacred ground in Saudi Arabia during the run-up to the first Gulf War hasn’t helped matters (the Bush Administration decided to vacate it just days before Bush “declared victory” on the aircraft carrier, remember); invading Iraq to control its precious oil, sure hasn’t helped matters. Did I say “terrorist jihadis” should be wiped out wherever and whenever they are found? Oh, and why haven’t they been? In AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, and SAUDI ARABIA where they were when Bush invaded Iraq. Oh, by the way, where’s Osama?
Which side am I on? I’m not on the “terrorist jihadists’” side, and I’m sure as hell not on George W. Bush’s side. I’m on the side of the United States of America.
Posted by: David Steele | June 18, 2007, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
This is in perfect harmony with comments of Ron Paul at the Republican debates. How would we feel if another country did in our country?
Posted by: David Waters | June 18, 2007, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
When are you chicken hawks going to enlist?
Cowards.
Posted by: Joe | June 18, 2007, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
I look forward to their arrival. These stupid morons won’t be able to put together the resources to pull off anything major, and most will simply get caught soon after they arrive. To hell with them.
Posted by: Don H. | June 18, 2007, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
How are they going to get here swim or perhaps
take the Queen Mary? I thought homeland security had this covered. Maybe they will come in through Mexico as illegal immigrants or Canada as Candian Royal Mounted Police. I am still waiting for the attack of the killer bees.
Posted by: Ed | June 18, 2007, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
What will it take for the left to realize that these people want to kill you and your family, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.
Posted by: pc | June 18, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Solution: if a reporter can attend a graduation ceremony of these terrorists, it can be spotted by satellite and weapons can target the swarm of lunatics. Kill them there. Kill them now. Before they come here and kill us. No term fits: world war, clash of civilizations, … It does not matter that we cannot define it. Like porn, you know a threat when it is there.
Posted by: Brian | June 18, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
“Bush was preoccupied with star wars, remember? He totally missed the boat. He was asleep on the job, taking more vacations than any president in history, ignoring intel briefings and warnings from the former Clinton administration while shoveling taxpayer money to his buddies in defense and big oil. Clinton actually tried to kill Bin Laden: Bush refused to use the troops to trap him at Tora Bora, and later said he didn’t think about him that much. Then, he lies through his teeth to attack a country that has never attacked us, to steal their oil… and we wonder why they hate us.”
Dave, you’re an absolute idiot!!!
Posted by: doug | June 18, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Gentlemen
whilst we sear each other, our leaders are sending aid and monies to the enemy of Western civilisation namely Abbas Fatah, the UN camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Gaza.
We are not punishing with prejudice the Saudi Arabian Govt (read Royal family), Pakistani ministers and some Egyptian, Syrian, Iranian officials who are all assisting the terrorists in some way.
Lets not forget Putin’s Russia and China who are trading behind the scenes and supplying munitions and aid to the Players supporting countries, knowing that they will pass on said munitions.
We need to gird our leader’s loins with exhortation and firm communications to do the above clearly and concisely NO MATTER their PARTY!
And if need be VOTE them OUT quickly.
No more wishy washy behaviour, we are at war and have been since the mid seventies with Militant Islam. Lets have clear polite firm conversation backed up with requisite force and sanction where it hurts and hurts quickly.
Lets start with pulling some of the financial plug on the UN and it’s anti American and Western civilisation bias.
Bully’s need a heads up before they take notice and depending on their size a swift kick in the rear to bring them to their knees.
We need to do this together.
MikeNZ
Posted by: Michael | June 18, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
yea rwview, it’s the cowardly “media” that’s to blame for terrorism. god, pull your head out!
Posted by: malmarti | June 18, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
I don’t think I read anyone say that Islamo-terrorism started with George W. Bush… I HAVE heard people say that W. handled this war stupidly, and lied, and did it to beef up his own pockets… I agree… W. is most definitely a war criminal… And I am not ignorant and I do not think terrorism started with W. I just think he is an idiot. Ok so we are under attack by Islamic fundamentalists who want to destroy our country (for whatever reason, the reason is unimportant..if they mean what they say, the only question is what to do about it), and George W. invades Iraq?? Ok all you George W. lovers who think anyone who disagrees with his actions is “ignorant”, please tell me how invading Iraq is helping keep our country safe against Isalmic fundamentalists?? Please?? and without saying I am ignorant and terrorism didn’t start with Bush… we know – move along… and tell me what invading Iraq is doing?? Then tell me who is the guy in charge who WON’T nuke the middle east into the stone age… Same W. guy right??
Posted by: Jay | June 18, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Divide and conquer.
Posted by: Steve Arflin | June 18, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
SOLUTION to CHILD BOMBERS: All Muslim children entering the country receive their choice of a PS3, XBox360, Nintendo Wii. They’ll be too busy to kill themselves. OK so I’m being sarcastic BUT just think if we were able to to sway these kids minds with our savvy marketing skills. Oh I guess that still sounds sarcastic but I’m certain the gaming consoles would work.
Posted by: Patrick | June 18, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
When the U S borders are closed and the Govt. gets serious about immigration we might have a chance at saving our country and way of life. Untill then we are very open to losing everything.
Posted by: R W | June 18, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
the world and the middle east marches towards the abyss,and the night as well as many tears must fall before summers end. all of the press and the administrations focus in the wrong places as usual.
the immigration loopholes will surely come home to roost in the next series of terror attacks but it will not be mexican citizens or illegals who will carry them out in my opinion. asian or african(sudan) and algerian influences as well as chechen with russian kgb help will most likely be the culprit. I say all the immigrants..all nationalities should have the tough immigration rules apply!
we have focused merely on the mexican national to a point of frenzy and lack of focus. if you only knew how many asian nationals(korean,chinese,malaysian,thai and vietnamese )get easy passes as student visa material with sponsors,you would be genuinely surprised. this is where our real transport culpability will be in terms of aiding and abetting the above described terrorists are concerned. the triads and organized crime will aid them in the payoff to those saboteurs in my opinion.
Posted by: charles buchanan | June 18, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Thank God we have President Bush, Prime Ministers Blair and Howard as they grasp the nature of the threat, its long term imlications and the need to prvail in Iraq, the central front in the war on terror.
Posted by: tom sassi | June 18, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Exclusive: Suicide Bomb Teams Sent to U.S., Europe
To bad the Amreican people have to learn the hard way……….
Common sensed should have told the American people reading the American rags that the rags were full of lies with an agenda………
Posted by: Frank | June 18, 2007, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
this is for Cindy and the rest of you ignorant people… we DID put our troops in Afganistan!!!! DUHHHH!!!! The problem is you don’t know it because the left wing media thinks Iraq is a better story because Afganistan is actually more stable then Iraq… idiots
Posted by: Scott B | June 18, 2007, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
It is to notice that the Bush supporters have been reduced to:
1) Hoping for massive terrorist attacks in America so that their opinions will be confirmed in their minds.
2) Hoping for the terrorists to attack “so-called” blue states.
3) Eagerly waiting for the day that they can “execute” members of the American media.
Sounds like America hating is the latest trend in Bush-bot world.
-GSD
Posted by: GSD | June 18, 2007, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Posted by: Jarhead68 | Jun 18, 2007 6:36:37 PM
Please provide links to support your assertions. The reason I am asking this is because everything you have just said has been reported on Fox “News,” but never retracted by Fox “News,” and then subsequently and thoroughly debunked long ago by countless experts, as well as those who where actually in Iraq. This site, given that it’s the epitome of Corporate Media, seems to attract everyone, including the misinformed, ill-informed, and the just plain “tinfoil hat” crowd.
Posted by: David Steele | June 18, 2007, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
I’m sure this is all just a big misunderstanding and their coming here to personally thank us for not bombing Pakistan so they could regroup in peace.
Posted by: Brad H | June 18, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Watch and pray, my friends, watch and pray…
Posted by: Just U Wait | June 18, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
[[ They have found over 500 instances of weaponized bio/chem weapons. ]]
With the particularly deadly feature of being invisible?
Colin Powell said 8 days ago on Meet the Press that the WMD assertion was completely wrong, so just give it up please.
[[ they established that NO ONE lied about WMD or "sexed up" the intelligence. ]]
They in fact did, they talked about “mushroom clouds” when the CIA never said anything remotely resembling that.
And they repeatedly mentioned 9/11 and Saddam in the same sentence, in hopes that the people would walk away with the impression that Iraq was involved in attacking America
Posted by: Katarina | June 18, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
you are right about people in america haveing the wrong focus and mindset. It is after all media driven by gutter sound bites,the latest enquirer sitcom stories and yes too much emphasis on predators and predator politics. this is killing america,its conscience and its soul,and for this the young and old should be up in arms….literally!
Posted by: charles buchanan | June 18, 2007, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Someone posted here that Muslim extremists did not hate the US & the West before Bush took office!! How does he figure that? Who tried to topple the World Trade Center in 1993? It wasn’t a group of Swedish extremists.
Get a grip.
Muslim extremists are Muslim extremists; they have existed far back into history and they are to blame for much of the misery in the world today, particularly in the Muslim world. They are thugs on a level that the average American would not believe if confronted with them personally; they are evil incarnate and would cut off your head with a dull knife if they could.
By the way, the kind of beheadings carried out by Muslim extremists, many of which they have videotaped and delivered for broadcast in the Muslim world, involves this technique: the beheader deeply slices into the throat of the victim, severing the major arteries & veins into the skull, folds back the head that is now freed from muscles & tendons, and proceeds to hack away at the cervical spine and spinal cord until finally cutting the head free from the neck. Image such a person who would do that to a total stranger without blinking an eye.
Such is what we are dealing with. The worst of things done by American soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison pale in comparison to what Muslim extremists do every day to other Muslims.
Posted by: tramky | June 18, 2007, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Yay,
Mcdonnel Douglas and the other war companies’ stock prices will remain inflated and my tax monies will go towards destroying an ununiformed target with a billion dollar machine.
The war machine thought the Soviet threat was profitable. Shoot, this was ain’t going to ever go away.
What happened to that war on drugs?
Posted by: Jason penterman | June 18, 2007, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Asymetric Warfare. Muslim terrorists kill innocent men, women and children – then run and hide under the skirts of their women. The West, in its innate mercy, holds restricts its retaliation -thereby giving the advantage to a bitter enemy.
I say that anyone who harbours terrorists is fair game. We are in a war of survival. I think it’s time to give THEM a big fat taste of asymetric warfare. It might give their friends in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other places some cause to rethink their support of mass murderers.
Posted by: Jim | June 18, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Agree, nothing like passing an illegal immigrant bill without reading the details to help the terrorists get in. Way to go for Bush and the supporters of this nonsense.
Posted by: Jay | June 18, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Let’s make sure we get them before they get us. Be on the watch.
Posted by: Mike M | June 18, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Why is it that we even allow these primitive, tribal barbarians to infect the civilized world when they’ve proven incapable of managing anything even resembling a civilized society of their own?
Posted by: Bring it | June 18, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
“I look forward to their arrival. These stupid morons won’t be able to put together the resources to pull off anything major, and most will simply get caught soon after they arrive. To hell with them.”
Posted by: Don H. | Jun 18, 2007 9:15:09 PM
All the phony “terrorist plots” that have been trumped up by the Bush Administration in the last 7 years sure has enabled us to form the kind of opinion you just described.
On the other hand, they tell us:
“Be afraid.” “We’ll protect you.” “Be afraid.” “We’ll protect you.” “Etc.”
Posted by: David Steele | June 18, 2007, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
You really think MCCain, Mitt Romney or Rudey G are fix anything better than hillary, Obama, Edwards or Gore. You’re living in la-la land. Face it the democratic candidates are much much better choices than the rebublican field this election cycle. Its interesting how some people continually demonize Hillary and Al. they’re much more sensible than Bush that’s for sure. How can you think a president who directly lied to YOU is worth a hill of beans. He and Cheney have ruined things. They have damaged our country way more than Hillary or Al could ever dream of.
Posted by: Razor | June 18, 2007, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Blowback sucks, don’t it?
Posted by: John Gillnitz | June 18, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
You wonder to what extent these guys are pumping themselves up with hyperbole or might actually make good on their claims of suicide bomber squads.
In case it has escaped their cognizance, the Americans are in Afghanistan because the Islamofascist dipsticks there co-opted the place, rode around in window-tinted SUV’S, threw Osama’s money around and got cozy with the marginally intelligent Mullah Omar.
Posted by: tanstaafl | June 18, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
There are no suicide bombers coming. If there was a real threat, we would seal our borders with Mexico and Canada and the flow of illegals would stop. When this is a real threat, you will see the army stationed on the border to repell the invaders.
Posted by: Prof Watson | June 18, 2007, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
OMG, w will save you!
Back under your beds cowards.
Geez †
Posted by: getalife | June 18, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Maybe Bush isn’t responsible for all of the radical Islamic hatred toward America… but he is certainly responsible for making sure the borders are strong enough for them to be unable to come across. If there are indeed suicide bombers on the way, and they strike and they will have come across the Mexican border, there will yet be blood on Bush’s hands (as well as most of Congress).
Posted by: Chris Knight | June 18, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
*THE GOVERNMENT IS “CREATING” PROBLEMS WHERE THE ONLY SOLUTION IS MORE GOVERNMENT!!! LESS FREEDOMS!!! LESS RIGHTS!!! MORE TAXES!!!* dont you all see?!
Posted by: dick | June 18, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
If any of these homicidal bombers get into the U.S. and kill anyone, the blood of the American citizens will be on the hands of the one’s in Governmental offices who have not SECURED our Borders and stopped immigration and visa programs. The “foolish” elected leaders and paid civil servants can’t “hear” the enemy as they speak! They tell us we are at “war” and our leaders and officials interpret that as “let’s not get to excited about it at all”! I say again, the American people will hold everyone from the President of the U.S. to the Congressmen and to the Civil Servants such as Homeland Security, FBI, CIA and ATF responsible for the blood that flows on our streets because they have “done” nothing to protect our people! We have all called for the borders to be closed, for a stop on all visa’s for entry into our Nation from oversea’s people seeking to come here unless there is ABSOLUTE knowledge of their background and purpose and then only limited time here with a knowledge of their presence at all times! WE ARE AT WAR! This is wartime status activity I am speaking about here. If we were at peace and did not have an enemy seeking to destroy our Nation and kill our people on the streets I would not advocate such matters! I call on the people to rise up and DEMAND with a loud voice the principles I have spoken of here in this article! NO vote for any person who doesn’t build fences, who doesn’t close the borders, who doesn’t use modern technology to track all illegals already here and round them up, and who do not support the Jail time and fine’s against all Corporate business and Individuals who hire and use illegal immigrants! That must be done now!! We have the enemy coming to our shores! Are you concerned or do you care about your life and your children and relatives?
Posted by: Lamar Carnes | June 18, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
who are we to inpose our lifestile on others these people have been fighting each other for hundreds of years
Posted by: bill t | June 18, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
“Such is what we are dealing with. The worst of things done by American soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison pale in comparison to what Muslim extremists do every day to other Muslims.”
Posted by: tramky | Jun 18, 2007 9:26:02 PM
This is a typical Republican argument: “They are bad, so what we do is not so bad if is not as bad as what they do.”
The point many fail to grasp is that when we do something bad, it is REALLY bad, because we have always held ourselves up to a higher standard; and when someone else does something bad, we can always call them on it–because we don’t do those things. I don’t know if you realize this yet, but thanks to Abu Ghraib, we can no longer say that. We can no longer tell others that we don’t do those things. And, when our soldiers are mistreated as prisoners, we can no longer claim “Geneva Conventions.” We have always held ourselves to a higher standard. That privilege is now gone.
Posted by: David Steele | June 18, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Gee, Rep Waxman and Sen Leahy must be rattling some cages in the WH for this alert to come out right now.
Posted by: dakine01 | June 18, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
This is what happens when we have an incompetent administration. Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney should be put in jail. Shame on them for what they have done to this country and the world.
Posted by: Tom | June 18, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Jack,
re:
“Nobody is saying that their was no anti-American sentiment before we invaded Iraq. What I am saying is that there was united American support after 9/11, and every single action W has committed since this point has eroded the pro-American sentiment.”
THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ERODING OUR SUPPORT AROUND THE WORLD. THEY HAVE BEEN TEARING DOWN OUR STATURE SINCE 9/11.
Posted by: Bill | June 18, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
I am typing this from under my bed so pluese excuse the typos. Did Brian say whether or not these guys are being sent on sail boats or row boats? I want to place a few bets in Vegas before the terrorists get us alllll and the answer to my question could have major implications as to how I bet..
Thanks for any reply…. Goodness gracious I am so afraid… gasp
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR | June 18, 2007, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Actually Jack, not every country in the world hates us. The countries that hate us now, more than ever, are the radical countries that have always hated us for our belief in free will. I won’t defend G.W. on many things, but this war on terror is one of them. He believes strongly in bringing freedom to the most oppressed parts of the world, and I am with him because America has a long tradition of standing up for those who are too weak or ill-equipped to stand up for themselves. Personally, I would rather have it that way, it makes the line between friend and foe so much clearer. It’s mostly the far left, corrupt Western Europeans that hate us. Eastern Europe is still very much pro-American and I would much rather have those folks on our side because at least they have to strength to stand up for the freedom they believe in and continue to pay dearly to achieve.
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
God help the USA.
Posted by: jerry | June 18, 2007, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Just a comment here about the “they all hate us” concept. Well the French obviously don’t hate us because they just voted in Mr. Skarkozy who is pro-American, same earlier for Germany and Canada. The left want to think everyone hates the US because they do. I invite them to leave whenever they want.
Posted by: Richard Arthur | June 18, 2007, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Whether you hate President Bush or not, no one wants to be attacked by some crazyed suicide idiot. Hopefully these guys are so dumb that they get caught without any of them getting over in Europe or the US.
The “shoe bomber” comes to mind here…
Posted by: Thomas | June 18, 2007, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Here it is, plain and simple. How can any semi-educated American still support Bush and his regime. Are you blind??!!! How much worse is this country and the world since he has been in control? Get a grip folks. Blind allegiance is not patriatism. Simple and true. How can you blame all that has happened on the Democratic party when they aren’t even the ones pulling puppet strings???? Do you right wingers really feel this stronly about your president or you just afraid to admit your wrong? Think about it. If you truly care about your country, make the decision based on experience and education rather than blind party ties.
Posted by: tim | June 18, 2007, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Unwrapping something for a yard sale this weekend, I found a page from the N.Y.Post, dated Aug 7, 1999. Catching my eye was an article titled, “BIN LADEN IS SET TO STRIKE AGAIN…..U.S.”
I believe Bubba Clinton was President at that time. Does he still claim he knew nothing about Bin Laden’s planned attacks on the U.S.? Do some of you Bush haters still believe that?
Posted by: B Boss | June 18, 2007, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
If this didn’t reek of propaganda I’d be patting ABC on the back for uncovering our enemies plan for a change.
Posted by: Gator Trader | June 18, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
OK, to those that think this video is to goad us into an Iran war, let’s look at the facts before waving the PC propoganda that the terrorists are just misunderstood that need coddling and we should blame America for everything:
1. The training camp in the video is located in Pakistan, NOT Iran.
2. Pakistan is a nuclear club Islamic “ally” which has exported nuclear technology know how to Iran & Saddam era Iraq (remember all that documentation we found kiddies?).
3. Committing the amount of troops in Iraq to Afghanistan would not stop Osama and his cronies from cranking out suicide bombers in Pakistan, unless they crossed the border and destabilised the Musharaff government in Pakistan-which would have made Iraqi violence look like a trip to Disney land as you would have had Muslim sectarian violence, as well as India, China, & Russia pushing for a land grab in the region- all with nukes and advance combat weaponry up for grabs by terrorist organisations.
4. Musharaff has really no control over his north-western border which is where Osama and his cronies have established their hideouts and bases in the amount.
Posted by: Bonko | June 18, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Is this suprising? Ooooo IT must be for real because ABC news has said it’s so. If ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and the vast left wing media complex actually reported how dangerous Al Qaeda, Hammas, Islamic Jihad and CAIR were during the Clinton “presidency” this discussion would be moot. Bush was correct to invade Iraq. The fight was taken to their play ground, not ours. Now if we can stop this American culture killing immigration bill, we might prevent these HOMICIDE bombers from entering the US. If not, I for one will stay clear of shopping malls. P.S. Homeland security? Hello? Quit harrassing mothers of toddlers at our airports and start profiling!
Posted by: Joe Mensa | June 18, 2007, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Well, we can count on a low turn out at their class reunions!
Posted by: Boppa | June 18, 2007, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
I feel compelled to point out a couple of glaring inconsistencies posited by some posters on the Right:
1) “They Hate Our Freedom”
No evidence for this – but OK – if we accept this as fact: then why do these same folks believe that Iraq and the rest of the Middle East would be receptive to regime change and welcome Democracy with open arms and parades? This, of course, was the foundational promise of the neocons: The Middle East fundamentalist hates all that we stand for – yet would welcome the Americanization of their nation – in spite of thousand of years of tribal struggle.
2) “Fight Them Over There So We Won’t Have to Fight Them Here”
Again – no evidence of this. Al Quaida appears to have moved into Irag in a major way POST US occupation – because we provided them with a far more convenient place to kill lots of Americans – and political cover as “liberators” from the occupation.
But if the right really believes this, then why the need for airtight US border security? Why the systemic and largely succesful attacks on all members of the US coalition? (Australia, UK, Spain, etc., etc.)
Posted by: JS | June 18, 2007, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
And the ignorant Dems like Kerry and Edwards continue to claim terrorism is an exagerated issue.
Posted by: Dennis | June 18, 2007, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
If Hillary was President, this would never happen. Here’s hoping the damage isn’t done already and she can fix it once we get her in office.
Posted by: Trim | June 18, 2007, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Blowback lol. Freaking morons. Was 911 Clinton Blowback?
Posted by: Dennis | June 18, 2007, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
I read all these comments and have to say I agree. It is Bush’s fault.
Forget him in sighting the terrorist. We know, it is because of him, they attacked the Marine barracks in 1983. He made them mad because he was drinking to much.
Then The 1993 1st world trade center bombing Bush’s fault. His dad was just defeated and his Rangers were winning..Plus he passed on Sammy Szosda.
The Kobar(spelling) towers Bush’s fault in 96 he was governor of Texas and they did not like Cowbow’s messing with their OIL.
USS Cole, And the embassy bombings, well Bush was thinking of running for President so it was his fault.
9-11 well, need we say more the drunk guy who’s dad was defeated and rangers were winning,and was thinking of running for president was now the president. So the Muslim extremist attacked
And lets go domestic for a minute.. When he guided the hurricane Katrina to hit, so the levies would break and kill hundreds of people of course he was the blame.
I remember when he and some of the Haliburtin guys designed the levies, who could have imagined the design would work so good for him. What a plan.
The more I think about it. Production jobs and Emmission in the economy that has lost Manufacturing jobs over the last quarter century is Bush’s fault.
Gosh, what an evil man..
But what the heck.. We have not been attacked or hit on our soil in 6 years He really does stink..
Posted by: Nonstick | June 18, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
We’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here, right? Right?
If we leave Iraq, they’re going to come here, right? Right?
So we’re not leaving Iraq, and they’re coming here anyway, right?
Posted by: The Needle | June 18, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
It’s naive to think that if we only focused on Afganistan that we would have already won the War on Terror. If people haven’t noticed, the terror groups are pervasive throughout the middle east with especially strong backing by the people of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan. And also some forms of backing from many governments.
Posted by: Thomas | June 18, 2007, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
And Brian Ross and the liberal media are now surprised that suicide teams are being dispatched to America and Europe. Ah, excuse me, but weren’t the 9/11 hijackers suicide teams? And we are still arguing about closing the borders. Folks, how do you think these guys are getting in here with their explosives and teams? hmmmmmm?? And Rick, this goes back way beyond W my friend! So when you say nice going W, the last time I looked the 9/11 bunch were in training long before Bush took office. You might want to read The Looming Tower to get a little bit of an insight into the mindset of the Islamofascists!
Posted by: Jeff | June 18, 2007, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Crazy crazy…
nathan lane would have put on a better show… you gotta be kidding.
and all you guys jump for it like its red meat. Obama girl was better..
Posted by: Wim Bradford | June 18, 2007, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Since when does Richard Clarke tell the truth?
Posted by: OldeGrump | June 18, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
“I tell you you must love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.”
Posted by: Russ | June 18, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
What we need is another Jack Pershing.
Posted by: mike | June 18, 2007, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
The blame Bush crowd always looks past the fact that bin Laden publicly declared war on the US on 7 occasions, and attacked and killed Americans on 12 occasions during Clinton’s watch.
But then never let facts stand in the way of Liberal fiction.
Posted by: Dave | June 18, 2007, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
The sad thing is, even if we had another 9/11 I think liberals will continue not to understand what’s going on. They refuse to accept the fact that radical Islam is evil and wants to destroy us. We have to destroy them first.
Posted by: Darren | June 18, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
What a fraud! Who obtained the tape? Who watched it first? Was it someone in the DOD or ABC? Where are the transcripts? No one knows for sure if this is actually a suicide training graduation class! THE MEDIA LIES!! ABC says it is suicide graduation class and everyone believes it! WAKE UP!! THIS MORE U.S. GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA!!
Posted by: matt | June 18, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
No one hated us before 9/11. Ask the victims of the graduates of the School of the Americas or the Native Americans that died on the “Trail of Tears”, or the African Americans that survived the “Jim Crow” era. Or ask the Cubans under Baptista or the Grenadans or,,,oh hell who haven’t we pissed off. This has been coming for a looooong time, might as well get ready.
Posted by: Marcus | June 18, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
@arnie
You are free to leave at anytime. Good luck with that.
Posted by: Fred | June 18, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
By their fruits ye shall know them, and this is the fruit of the Prince of Darkness, Richard Pearl, and the other Neocons. That is why I am voting for Ron Paul in 2008.
Posted by: Ward Ciac | June 18, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I’m praying that our government can get
the rest of the no trespassing signs up along the borders before the suicide bombers get across.
Posted by: Henry | June 18, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
What a bunch of idiots posting comments here. Instilling FEAR is the way to take liberties away from citizens.
Posted by: Sam | June 18, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Crazy!! You got a problem with me shooting at you? Get out of my backyard. You don’t like the way I react to you being in my backyard? Get out! OOOH, I got oil in my backyard? Guess what? It’s for sale, get outa my backyard! I will protect my front yard, my backyard, my home and my family when I feel threatened. There are 50 of you and 5 of us. Well that changes strategies. If you will just get out of my backyard we can talk! Get out of my yard!!
Posted by: forreal | June 18, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I am a liberal but a realist, I hate Bush but to blame him as the cause is silly. Muslim exstremists are just like white supremisists or Nazis they believe being Muslim is the only true way, and it is not only ok but required to kill non-muslims (they kill a lot of other muslims too by the way).
Bush failed completely to get Bin Laden, and should never have gone into Iraq if we had spent even 1/10th of what we spent in Iraq on Afganistan it would be a great example of the good that American is capable of, because of Bush’s failures we have become hated by the world and certianly did not help our cause…but Muslim exstremism is a cult and many other poor and opressed people respond in a constructive non-violent way with out such dogmatic hatred
Posted by: LiberalRealist | June 18, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Anyone who thinks these terrorists are a product of Bush’s Iraq policy are just plain uninformed. Do really think these islamofacist nuts at this camp would have otherwise been home baking cookies? They need to be exterminated wherever they are around the globe.
Posted by: Rob | June 18, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
12 year olds with suicide bomb vests? These people really love their children, don’t they?
Posted by: Pat L. | June 18, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
If you really want to know where all this is going grab a Bible and read Ezekiel 38-39, It’s all in there. Then get the book Epicenter by Joel Rosenberg. You will understand what all this is coming to after that.
Posted by: DM | June 18, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Remember the Terrorists only have to be right once and we have to be right all the time…This is one American who is not willing to chance anything a second time…
Posted by: cc | June 18, 2007, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Now’s the time for the knuckleheads in Washington to try to pass their “guest worker” program. They may as well try to add a clause to include suicidal underage workers as well. Suicide bombing doesn’t pay very well and it’s a job that Americans don’t want to do.
Posted by: BATman | June 18, 2007, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Remember they only have to be right once…we have to be right all the time..This is one American who will NOT tolerate it a second time.
Posted by: cc | June 18, 2007, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
it’s amazing that the same people who scream bloody murder when bush’s 8 months of doing nothing about terrorism before 9/11 is brought up…
…accuse bill clinton of responsibility for the 1993 wtc bombing, after he had been in office all of 35 days.
amazing, i tell you.
Posted by: lonesomerobot | June 18, 2007, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
The day we get hit, and thousands die is the day we close the borders.
Posted by: James Key | June 18, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
when are people going to realize that both of our parties are letting us down and not representing the people! you people who think clinton is the answer and that we should talk to the terrorist and not go after them, you do realize how they view women? we will look as weak as ever, not to mention she is a complete idiot!
Posted by: Jake_B | June 18, 2007, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
But, but, we’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here. Bush promised they would only come here if we pulled out of Iraq. He’s always right about everything. This must be an erroneous story.
Posted by: ann | June 18, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Isn’t Afganastan the war everyone said was the correct first step?
The “just” war?
If and when a nuke goes off somewhere in the West – our biggest enemy WILL STILL be those who blame the victims…
Posted by: evan | June 18, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
This report is not believeable and neither is Brian Ross. The man has a proven track record of lying.
Posted by: Aamir Ali | June 18, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
This country is killing innocents in name of democracy.This country has killed 110 Million Humans in 60 Years.
1.Hirshima/Nagashikhi – Nuclear Bomb
2.Illegal Vietnam War
3.Illegal Afgan War in 1991
4.Illegal Afgan War in 2001
5.Illegal Iraq War in 2003
6.Illegal Planned IRAN War.
I can’t bare more.I m leaving this country.This country is not pouring Gasoline ,But it is Bloood of Innocent ME peoples.Now they are defending and Media is telling them terrorist….
Posted by: Ali | June 18, 2007, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Until people wake up and realize the real war is against Islamic Fundamentalists, more innocent Americans are going to die.
Stop blaming Bush. Who’s side are you on?
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Mr. Steele somehow fails to see that Mrs. Clinton is talking out of both sides of her mouth. She supported the war before she was against it. She is doing the same kind of rope-a-dope that Bill did in 1992. No way in the world we can determine from what she says what she would do in the White House.
Posted by: John Schuh | June 18, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Yeah i heard godzilla is mad and making his way to tokyo too.
“Large teams of newly trained suicide bombers are being sent to the United States and Europe,”
yeah ok, wow! great to know that abc news has “Covert Insider Info” that people who are trained in such matters don’t know.
You people need to wake up.
assuming this won’t be “Cencored”
Posted by: whatever | June 18, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
This is just another attempt to keep all of us sheeple scared. By the way who was the valedictorian?
Posted by: Dave | June 18, 2007, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
The Greatest Generation showed us the sacrifice that is required to ensure that evil doesn’t flourish. When our backs were to the wall, we stood up and acted. Do we still have it in us to live up to the example set by previous generations? One can only hope. Many don’t seem to realize that we are now involved in a similar struggle.
With information coming out that the Chinese and Iranians are sending weapons to the Taliban and North Korea ruled by a morally decadent pig, it becomes obvious that the world is definitely a more dangerous place. Throw in monetary backing by Venezuala and a Russian government that seems ever more belligerent and it becomes clear that the world is choosing sides. This one is going to be nasty but it’s evident that the pot is starting to bubble. It will call for great sacrifice before it is done and we are going to be called upon to step up and carry the banner once again. I hope you are ready.
Posted by: Mitch Rapp | June 18, 2007, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
If this doesn’t point out the lie in ‘if we don’t fight them over there, we’ll have to fight them here’, I don’t what it will take.
Maybe I missed it but did anyone catch the graduation speaker explaining that they had great ideas for attacking the US (and it’s allies) but unfortunately, they couldn’t have the attack now as they were bogged down in Iraq.
Posted by: rmp | June 18, 2007, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
After the terrorists blow up whatever they target, there will be 2 reactions.
1> See, I told the Americans invited this to US/UK/Germany
2> See, I told you we we’re in world war IV.
Which one do you think the terrorists would want on US TV? If you chose #1, then you basically are siding with Al-Qaida.
Sadly, you will see/hear #1, and nothing of #2. This isn’t a liberal/conservative issue…this is a life or death issue…what choice are you making by siding with Al Qaida? It isn’t life.
Posted by: Corey L | June 18, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
It’s easy to blame W. for this, however if Clinton had taken out Bin Laden when he had the chances (two of them) this sure would be a different scenerio.
Posted by: Kcee | June 18, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” — B. Franklin
Posted by: Blue | June 18, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
This is why preventing the passing of the immigration bill is so important. If we allow people to just cross the border we open ourselves up to things like this.
I don’t believe many of these kids will do anything, but it only takes one at my kids school or on my bus/train to effect me.
Be aware of who the true enemy is. If we were all honest about what is going, rather than fighting amongst ourselves we would be much safer.
Posted by: Dan | June 18, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
And the wheels of the fear business keep on turning… the more fear the media manufactures, the more readers and viewers it gets… the more fear the government manufactures, the easier its grip on power.
Have none of you read ’1984′? George Bush apparently views it as an instruction manual…
Posted by: Jeff | June 18, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Bush and Cheney are so stupid that they did not realize that invading Iraq was the best thing that could have happened to the Terrorists – it has provided them with a great recruiting tool.
We needed to go after these Al Qaeda camps from day one. I knew that and I am not even in politics.
The conservative minds of Bush and Cheney have helped destroy our great Country.
We need Leaders who are BRILLIANT – Not right wing ideologues.
Posted by: G. | June 18, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
The point about W is simple. His policies have done nothing but worsen the terrorist threat to the US. He had world support and our support behind him and he blew it, and for what? Money and Power. W can care less about you nutty right wingers or my nutty left wingers, or anyone else for that matter, he simply cares about cash.
Posted by: Dustin L. Hopper | June 18, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
re David Steele – “Be afraid.” “We’ll protect you.” “Be afraid.” “We’ll protect you.” “Etc.”
Sounds familiar to -dont have your feelings hurt, don’t work too hard, we will take care of you….
Let the cowards come, all they’ve dealt with is our snake oil selling politicans, they have absolutly no idea the power & the strength of the American people.
Posted by: Joe | June 18, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Aside from any political beliefs, we should all think about our children. We are witnessing the astounding effects of horrible decisions of ignorant men. Tell the children the truth. Stop the madness.
Posted by: Jeff Haza | June 18, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Yes, it is W’s fault. If he had finished the job in Afghanistan with bin Laden, this problem would be solved. As it is, he has screwed around in iraq and left OSB in place.
I blame Bush and the neocon’s for this mess.
Posted by: Dave from Oregon | June 18, 2007, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Who the hell is Brian Ross talking to in that photo at the top of this page? Are you telling me that he can’t even put the phone down so that someone can take a picture for his website? Or, is it that he is posing? Appearing to be a man of constant action. Always tracking down the story. Well, track this story down big Bri. No one is buying your action man picture. Why not try a 007 pose while you’re at it. And, what’s with the “Investigation Team?” Is that your crew of sidekicks? Can we see their pictures? PLEASE?!?!?
Posted by: Your biggest fan | June 18, 2007, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
We hear news about impending attacks from ABC NEWS and Drudge? Where is Homeland Security? Are we on Red Alert?
All the rabid, wimpy, cowardly lions are roaring again. Please.
Posted by: Jaby | June 18, 2007, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
What we need to do is shut down immigration. By that, I mean, shut down immigration. I know that when I say “shut down immigration,” the meaning may not be clear, however, if you don’t want suicide bomber immigrants to take advantage of our immigration system, that means you have to SHUT DOWN IMMIGRATION. And by that, I mean, SHUT DOWN IMMIGRATION.
Posted by: shut down immigration | June 18, 2007, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
( Sheep Dogs )… I agree we need to be on the TERROR watch, but we are too busy or too angry about heavy TSA security inspections … Just remember that there are Wolves, Sheep and then us Sheep Dogs. Be prepared to survive as a member of the US Militia Sheep Dogs because our government can not re-structure mass disasters as proved by Katrina and 9/11. Civil society will just shut down and the drug addict gangs, WOLVES and Muslim Extremists will rape/steal what they can until they are dead or locked up on some remote island… It is a Holy War, Class War and a society shake out since 1970+ where modern technology made it a smaller world for us in the 21st century… A world of SICKO’s ???
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Posted by: DanDan | June 18, 2007, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
They know they can get through the Mexican/American borders, thanks Washington for not securing the borders!
How many more will die for the want of cheap laborers?
If they get here or are here now, which school will they walk into? Which mall?
Maybe a big sports event?
Our borders should have been under control right after 9/11, and laws enforced!
Posted by: Bobc | June 18, 2007, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Get outa my backyard! Beheadings are an atrocity, thank God none of them are in my backyard. I guess cause there’s nobody messin in my backyard. When 50 come over to take over the 5 of us tactics change. I will do what I can to protect my property, my family and my beliefs. Please, call me before you come over!
Posted by: forreal | June 18, 2007, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Hey GSD, Drudge is about as “right wing” as PBS. An independent media study performed by UCLA professors showed Drudge to actually lean to the left–probably because all Drudge does is mimic what appears in the mainstream press, which leans to the left.
Regarding Bush and terrorists, the left is going to blame Bush no matter what happens–even you lefties know this. It has nothing to do with conservatives believing Bush is without his issues. It’s just that to you guys EVERYTHING is his fault. If there are no terrorist attacks, he is exagerating the problem, if there are attacks it is because Bush antagonized Muslims. If oil prices go up, it’s Bush’s fault. When they come down, it has nothing to do with him. You chastise him for paying too much attention to Iraq while many on the left were against any action in Afghanistan as well. And let’s not forget Democrats chided Bush Sr. for not “taking out” Hussein in the first Gulf War, when H.W. Bush backed off to appease liberals. You lefties want it both ways all the time; you shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.
Posted by: twz | June 18, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I think we need Ron Paul here.
Too bad the media, including this company we are posting on, don’t give them a fair shot.
And I always thought the no name candidates were not worth the time.. I was way wrong.
Ron Paul has the right idea.
Posted by: hmmm | June 18, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Let’s hurry-up and surrender! I have more inportant stuff to do like watching
the Munster’s on TVLand
Posted by: Chucky Moron | June 18, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
It’s all about love and hate. Terrorist won’t stop until they love themselves and their babies more than they hate us/infidels. Our country will not survive. Liberals hate the GOP, Bush, and Capitalism more than they love the country and our constitution. Conservatives hate everyone without power/money more than they love the country and our constitution. Until there is love, it will be filled with hate. The media (who is the worst) love money, celebrity (thinking their important, or worst, thinking we think what they say has actual weight), and a good catfight more than they love the truth.
2012 will be the year, prepare cause all will fade to black if nothing is done…
Posted by: answers | June 18, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
We will never again win a war as long as the numbers of civilian casualities are reported in the news. Is it or isn’t it WAR? In WAR innocent people get killed. Look how many innocent people died before Hitler and the Japanese were stopped. That’s the way war is and why it is so awful. The terrorists don’t care about the innocent people they kill or the innocent kids they use to kill other innocents. They kill anyone they can. We kill who we think are their military. What is so hard to understand? They play by different rules and with the help of our media, and our leaders who are perpetually running for re-election, they will win every time.
Posted by: Sherry Masters | June 18, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
These so called terrorists are created by the military industrial complex. An enemy is always needed to justify huge spending in the arms industry. If some of you would do a little research you would discover this.
Posted by: aceace | June 18, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
To those of you who talk about hunting terrorists in Afghanistan…
Bin Laden is probably not in Afghanistan. He is probably in Pakistan, and has probably been to Iran. Hmmmmm. I bet you wouldn’t be too happy to talk about war with Iran. There is no right and wrong country. We have to fight the terrorists wherever we have an opportunity to fight them…and right now it’s Iraq. We have had some success in disrupting Al Qaeda’s over all network by engaging them on a battlefield of OUR choosing.
By the way…Iran..the bombs will be dropping. Stand by and watch the fireworks. We will not fight a nuclear Iran…we will stop them before that happens. Not an all out war…just assets. Our war with Iran is primarily be fought as a proxy war in Israel.
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
False flag terror attacks on the way!
Posted by: William | June 18, 2007, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
My-oh-my, does anyone know of something more predictable (or fearsome) – Like the weather forecast for next week ?
Posted by: G.E.Rolyat | June 18, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Take note: ‘Cut-and Run’ Peaceniks!The Evil-doers are getting EMBOLDENED! The ‘Serpeant’ is raising its head. We need to ‘Crush’ it-Now!
Posted by: dumbshun | June 18, 2007, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
The sky is falling. The sky is falling!
Yeah. We’ve been hearing this for 6 years now.
Posted by: Zach | June 18, 2007, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Our Forefather’s, The Colonial Americans we’re terrorists. All that you say you fught for is a perspective that shifts and changes with the wind.
Face facts, you are scared. Terrified, because you know you watch way too much TV eat way too much food, guzzle way too much gas, and know way too little history..
And you know that they will win eventually..
Posted by: People's History | June 18, 2007, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
I’m sorry. Is Bill Clinton still President? Did he get the “BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN US” briefing and then go clear brush and play some golf? Hmmm?
I WANT MY SIPPY CUP! Hillary probably stole it.
Posted by: Jaby | June 18, 2007, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
This make-believe story has no credibility.
Posted by: TheStateIsAFiction | June 18, 2007, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
THOSE STUPID LIBERALS DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THAT AMERICA HAVE BEEN THREATEN BY A BUNCH OF MURDEROUS THUGS TRYING TO DESTROY THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION. G.W.BUSH WILL PROTECT AMERICA FROM THEM
Posted by: Sid | June 18, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Rick is right….because the terrorists started hating us when Bush was elected and all of those bombings on our military, and that pesky 1993 WTC bombing all happened when Bush was in office….wait, you mean Bush came into office in 2000? My mistake.
Those of you who think that this is because of Bush is VERY ignorant…and it shows you know NOTHING.
Posted by: LCS | June 18, 2007, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
[[ They have found over 500 instances of weaponized bio/chem weapons. ]]With the particularly deadly feature of being invisible? Colin Powell said 8 days ago on Meet the Press that the WMD assertion was completely wrong, so just give it up please. [[ they established that NO ONE lied about WMD or "sexed up" the intelligence. ]] They in fact did… in hopes that the people would walk away with the impression that Iraq was involved in attacking America.
First of all…the fact that THERE WERE WMD’s found in Iraq is not mitigated by Colin Powell’s statement. Secondly, an entire squadron of airplanes was found in the desert…buried…who can say that there never was WMD in Iraq. Third, the IAEA claimed back in July 2003 that much of the WMD had been moved to the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon in Water Trucks and buried near an airforce base controlled by Syria. Just because we haven’t found WMD doesn’t mean it didn’t exist, or wasn’t capable of being made in the dual use facilities.
Furthermore, Iraq was developing their NUCLEAR program in Lybia…remember…the DAY we invaded Iraq…Qadaffi revealing “his” Nuclear program to the world…his scientists were Iraqi.
As far as sexing up the intel…my recollection is that the Intelligence Minister from Iraq met with Mohammad Atta in Turkey in July 2001. No direct connection was ever established regarding that meeting. Come on already. Does anyone believe they met to exchange recipes???
Hmmmm….
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
See, we can’t stop all attacks that can filter into a porus America. Fact is, the “textbook” says, the only way to fight an assymetrical conflict—is PRO-ACTIVELY. In other words, when Saddam Hussein is shooting down your aircraft, declaring himself on the side of Jihad while openly and defiantly sponsoring Islamic terrorists—oh, and harboring said terrorists that have killed Americans (such as Zarqawi and also ’93 WTC bombers)—you don’t wait for it; you disarm the bugger!
I wish anti-Civilizaiton, pro-Saddam, terror-sympathizing liberals; would grow-up and protect your children from the real forces of evil in this world, and stop squawking like pathetic crybabies!
Posted by: Thogwummpy | June 18, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
I refuse to live in fear.
Posted by: Eric | June 18, 2007, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Well technically Sherry it’s not a war.
While the president was given leighway to use armed forces, Congress never declared war on Iraq.
And since terror is a tactic and not a state or foreign government it is no more possible to declare war with it than it is with poverty, drugs, inflation or illiteracy.
Posted by: Tim Osman | June 18, 2007, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
The USA should have let the Soviets have a free hand in the 1980′s. Afghanistan would be atheist and no one would have ever heard of 9/11 or Osama Bin Laden. The mullahs would be buried in mass graves and afghanis would be reading Marx instead of the Koran. You can thank Reagan for creating Al-Queda
Posted by: lenin | June 18, 2007, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Those of you advocating the use of nuclear weapons better take note of the massive cuts targeted at the nuclear weapons complex and call your congressional represenataives. Let them know that you belive (as I do) that the nuclear stockpile is essential to our continued national defense and that you will not stand for a budget that adversely affects our ability to maintain a viable stockpile.
Note that in 1956, 50% of the federal budget was for defense and 20% was for entitlements. This as flipped and the portion of the defense budget is now less than 20% and entitlements for individuals exceeds 50% of the federal budget. It is time to determine what is really important. Do we want to continue to fund individual entitlements until there are more people riding the wagon than ther are people pulling the wagon or do we want to defend our freedoms?
Posted by: RDX | June 18, 2007, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I am afraid something really big will have to happen before anti-war liberals are made irrelevant. There were those in 1941 too, but they fell into obsecurity after 12/07/1941. I wish it didn’t have to be that way but the Michael Moores of the world will make sure of it.
Posted by: Neal Ramsey | June 18, 2007, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
The real conflict here has been brewing since the dawn of the Industrialized age. Islam is the only major religion in the world that has refused to bring itself inline with modern technology and society. The conflict is not about Republican or Democrat, or even Democracy itself, but about the failing of a religious society and its last desperate struggle for sovereignty. The end will come as a war between Muslims, when those who wish to move forward finally overcome those who would suppress people in poverty and desperation for the ‘greater glory’ of Allah.
Posted by: CptSavAHoe | June 18, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Unfortunately, what it will come to for any sense to be put in these peoples’ heads is general war upon the region. Leave no stone unburned.
Posted by: jabbadu | June 18, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Right wingers are shocking in their hypocrisy. If you all believe the war in Iraq is such a noble cause, why are you all still here, safe and sound in the States? And if Bin Laden’s development in the 1990′s is Clinton’s fault, I suppose all of you wrote to your Republican Congress members as they derided and ridiculed his military actions against Al Quida? How many of you used the “Wag the Dog” line in the 90′s?
The fact that the war in Iraq was founded and sold on proven lies doesn’t phase you a bit. The fact that our civil liberties are being violated and systematically dismantled doesn’t worry you a bit. You seem to think that ignorance is a good enough defense from fascism.
OBL knocked down the Twin Towers, but he was powerless to touch Habeus Corpus. Al Quida killed thousands, but couldn’t harm due process. Islamic extremism has cut a bloody trail around the globe, but could never draw even a drop of the lifeblood of American democracy.
Who is the real danger to our society? The man who thinks Islamic law should control our lives, or the man who doesn’t follow any law at all?
Posted by: Aaron Starr | June 18, 2007, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
WHERE’S THE FENCE? We need to secure our borders and stop the illegal trafficking across them!
Posted by: Fay | June 18, 2007, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Let Michael Moore do a movie about it and it will seem like a really good thing.
Posted by: Cyrus | June 18, 2007, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
It makes me sick to hear the Pro Bush crowd constantly applauding the incredible mess this president has gotten us into. While it’s true that the muslim extremists were out to kill us before Bush, he has only exacerbated the problem by radicalizing even more muslims by his iraqi adventure. The jerk took us to the wrong country to fight. And just how do you think those graduating suicide bombers are going to get into the United States? Easy. They’ll come through the Mexican border that this president refuses to clamp down on. Is this an upside down world or what?
Posted by: richard | June 18, 2007, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
How interesting is it that ABC, the same Mickey Mouse group that told us of a lot of big-time names on the DC Madame escorts list, and then told us a week later…there is nothing of interest, afterall. Isn’t it interesting, also, these “terrorists” are videotaping everything and tipping us off on their next moves?
And who says, the bush scum ever got elected in this country? Will Disney fairy tales ever cease?
Posted by: BrendanOMaidian | June 18, 2007, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Read Mathew ch. 24, Luke ch.21 and then read 2nd Tim ch.3
It’s good stuff. Remember it is about Israel. They will never be overtaken again. God is in control of this whole thing and laughs. Read Psalm ch.2
Posted by: jmac | June 18, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
QUESTION, IF THIS PAKASTANI REPORTER KNOWS WHICH MEMBER WAS ASSIGNED TO ATTACK GREAT BRITAIN(SINCE HE SPEAKS ENGLISH) DOES HE NOT KNOW WHO IS ASSIGNED TO THE U.S.??? I WOULD HOPE THE U.S. GOVT WOULD BE BREATHING DOWN ROSS’S NECK AS WELL AS THE PAKASTANI JOURNALIST. ANY THOUGHTS ANYONE???
Posted by: Rand | June 18, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
These people who continue to blame Bush for everything need to wake up. Thank God the strong won over in WWII or we would all be speaking German now.
These terrorists have hated us and been killing us for decades. Bush is someone who is finally showing strength and conviction to go after these Jihad nuts. You need to support our President and our Military not run them into the ground. United We Stand, Divided We Fall, Remember 911, Remember Beirut, Remember all the attacks…….and be strong! Dark days may lie ahead if these suicide devils have their way. The only thing I can say to those in Washington is lets get this border issue closed up NOW!!!!!
Posted by: A Grandmother | June 18, 2007, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfiwitz, and other accomplices lied us into war because Bush and his oil friends wanted Iraq as a military strong hold in the Middle East. Meanwhile from John Hopkins estimates over a half a million Iraqi citizens have died from this war.
Iraq did not fly the planes, and they didn’t have WMD’s O.K.?
Posted by: sam | June 18, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
I love all the action this article is getting. Has Iraq gone well? No. Has Iraq been good for the U.S.? No…That was easy! Now for the tough questions. Could we sit idle after 911? No. They (terrorists) made the first strike. My point is the terrorists struck before we entered Iraq. How some of you think the terrorists were born out of the Iraq war I simply do not know. THEY HAVE BEEN ATTACKING US FOR A LONG TIME. My last comment. Please do not bash our president if you do not vote…you may be to blame!
Posted by: Toddzilla | June 18, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
I realize that this may sound a little “1984″ but we do have the technology right now to track anyone that goes through a controlled check point and there are a number of ways to do it. Maybe more money should have been spent earier by this administration on this very thing but that would require forethought, never mind!
Posted by: SteveK | June 18, 2007, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Maybe they should see a few Western movies. The Indians lost and so will they if they come here. They will come here to die and we will oblige them. Our nation has a second admendment that allows us to bear arms. Ask the Brits about Americans and their guns.
God Bless America
Posted by: G Kendrick | June 18, 2007, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
I’d kill myself too, if I had to sit through that.
Posted by: Mike M. | June 18, 2007, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
i blame god for making everyone finite
Posted by: Timmy | June 18, 2007, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
The USA uses military might to promote corporate aims.
I say close the border with Canada, nobody is allowed to come north of which unless they are a declared liberal.
Then we paste and light up the remainder. Be proactive, I understand how the Poles must have felt when they watched their largest trading partner turn into a fascist state.
Real men fight fascists – just like my dad did.
Posted by: WMD | June 18, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Whatever. Bring it.
Honestly, is anyone going to change their daily lives because of this? Only one more reason to live our lives like it was our last, it may well be. And really, there’s not a damn thing we can do to stop it, but there’s no way they can stop America either.
Posted by: Lynch | June 18, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
After laughably reading a lot of the politicizing above one wonders how much history – like the centuries old conflicts that are reflected in the middle east and in these actions of the terrorists – anyone knows. Hatred has existed long before politics,…and W did not cause anything. Nor did he help anything.
Posted by: John | June 18, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Well, if they hurry Bush will grant them legalization along with 10′s of thousands of other potential threats already in the US. Did I mention we have a wide open border…9/11 apparently wasn’t enough for Bush to secure the borders 6 years ago.
Posted by: Iceman | June 18, 2007, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Somehow, some way, some day, Islamist extremists will attack the US again. I believe that based on their actions in the past, starting with the 1993 WTC bombing. Up until Sept 11th, there were 5 other attacks against the US, although all overseas. It took Sept 11th to wake us up. At least for a short while. Since there’s been no further attacks, we’ve been lulled back into complacency. A big yawn.
Well, let me remind you that the Sept 11th terrorists were in the US for 2 years patiently waiting to carry out their mission. Based on their actions in the past, they’re in the US now, patiently waiting. Sound scary? It is. But using history as a lesson, it can be said that it will happen again. Citing the 9/11 Commission report: “It’s not a matter of if, it’a a matter of when”. Be prepared.
Posted by: Mary | June 18, 2007, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
nice going carter and clinton. your pals are at the gates….get ready FOOLS!
Posted by: arpod | June 18, 2007, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
I agree with the person who says we dig a moat across the Mexican border, use the dirt to fill New orleans to level with the levees, and fill the moat with allegators… I am an eighty year old grandmother…. But I will volunteer to help with digging the moat
Posted by: Audrey | June 18, 2007, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
“We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.” Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, 1969-1974
Posted by: Lynch | June 18, 2007, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
suIcIde bombing skool ?
how hard is it to kill yourself along with your targets ?
bunch of BS.
oh yes,the want to but all this rhetorical crap and everyone’s all a twitter..
why the hell can’t we send out our messages and greetings to al qaeda ?
Posted by: salome | June 18, 2007, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
I saw this story on TV.
The hate over there is getting worse.
Bush has no clue how to make things better.
He started this mess, and can’t finish it.
George Vreeland Hill
Posted by: George Vreeland Hill | June 19, 2007, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Why waste our time and money in iraq? if all that money would have gone towards the U.S., then we would already have a solution for a problem we never had (i.e. send planes, not troops- remember Clinton). Stupid war for stupid people- again, Bush is stupid and if you supported going, then you are stupid too.
Posted by: mateo | June 19, 2007, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Muslim extremists loved the U.S. before we went after them. They loved us, nature and baby animals. They are loving nuturing people who just happen to enjoy military weaponry and explosives. All of this is because of the evil bad U.S. of A.
Posted by: nik | June 19, 2007, 12:05 am 12:05 am
If our borders are not sealed tightly, the United States government is at fault. We have illegal immigration at explosive numbers as high as 20 million here, what more will it take for our borders to be sealed 6 years after the World Trade Center attack in 2001. Wasn’t WTC #1 attack in 1993 enough?
Posted by: AV | June 19, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am
The powers that be use terrorism to control you, to justify their resource wars and their efforts to maintain the dollar as the world reserve currency for the exchange of oil. The dollar, along with U.S. standing in the world is declining and rightly so. We have lost the faith of many and gained the hatred of millions.
Posted by: Pete Solinski | June 19, 2007, 12:09 am 12:09 am
This terrifies me. I think we should all forget politics, and stop pointing fingers when stuff like this surfaces. I truly hope every American understands the significance of what these people want to do to us. Their hatred is so extreme that the flew planes into our buildings. This is something that an average American citizen couldn’t comprehend prior to it happening, because we are not capable of that kind of hatred. But this group of people could imagine and did it. The political bull needs to stop and we need to pay careful attention to who starts popping up in our communities and communicate it to authorities when we see the slightest thing amiss.
Posted by: TK | June 19, 2007, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Islamofacists began attacking US interests
in the 1770s, long before Bush or our current foreign policy
Posted by: Mark Scott | June 19, 2007, 12:12 am 12:12 am
This has nothing to do with Bush. These people are crazy and ther eis but one solution, kill them.
Wake up, these people are serious and they will not negotiate. Who cares about Bush. This goes far beyond a president, this is survival.
Posted by: Dave T | June 19, 2007, 12:14 am 12:14 am
When are we going to start blaming terrorists for being terrorists? West Bank, Beirut, Somalia, Darfur, Beslan, Chechnya, Kosovo, Khobar Towers, Tanzania, etc.
Stop blaming Bush, and start blaming terrorists.
Name 1 freed American Soldier captured by Al Qeada, just 1. You can’t every single 1 captured by Al Qaeda has been murdered. What does the US Do? Capture them, give them Koran’s, feed them according to Islamic law, and has since released some found to be innocent. What has Al Qaeda done? Slam planes into buildings, incite ware between Shia and Sunni, cut off the heads of civilians, kill American soldiers, kill innocent people in marketplaces, but somehow it is all the fault of the US.
Posted by: Jim | June 19, 2007, 12:29 am 12:29 am
It’s amazing how much info goes down the Orwellian memory hole! The UNITED STATES funded, armed and trained both the Taliban and Al Qaeda back in the early 1980′s, and continues to do so up to this day! The ‘War on Terror’ is an oxymoron- you can’t go to war against a tactic, unless you want that war to be continuous and unending, so the arms manufacturers, oil companies and the rest of the military-industrialist complex can continue to profit from it, and use it to restrict freedoms and control the populace here at home. This ‘article’ smacks of a set propaganda piece, designed to incite fear in the populace in order to push the neo-con agenda of continuous war profiteering via huge government contracts. Why is it throughout the Afghan and Iraqi wars, that policy changes proposed by our own Military officers in the field has been blatently ignored- policy that could shorten the conflicts and bring them to a resolution quicker. It seems as if it is more in the interests of the powers-that-be to prolong the conflicts and instill more chaos, as war is much more profitable and useful than peace!
Instead of keeping the Iraqi military in their barracks and using it as a stabilizing force after going in, the military disbanded it, creating an instant insurgency with a vast supply of cached weapons and training in their use. Instead of supplying our troops with adequate armor and equipment, the Pentagon was overruled, and the neo-con directors tried to win the war ‘on the cheap’, resulting in many more casualties than necessary or needed. And Iraqi infrastructure continues to be blown up repeatedly after being ‘rebuilt’, resulting in further lucrative contracts for sweetheart buddies of the administration (Dick Cheney’s ‘Blind Trust’ must be overflowing with profits!). And the list of Iraq mis-steps, both deliberate and unplanned goes on.
Worst of all, Iraq has drained the Afghanistan mission of money, arms and troops, so now the Taliban have virtually retaken the country, outside of fortresses such as Kabul and Kandahar. Way to run a war- did someone find the Robert MacNamara ‘How to win the war in Vietnam’ manual behind a bookcase in the Bush White House War Room? The ‘War on Terror’ is playing out like the never-ending Southeast Asia quagmire of 30-odd years ago. God bless our troops- they need divine protection from the idiots that direct them from on high!
Posted by: xtrabiggg | June 19, 2007, 12:34 am 12:34 am
What do you mean Islamic nuts didnt hate America before George W.??????? Are you stupid or just ignorant? How about 1993????
In May 1994, four men – Mohammed Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Mahmud Abouhalima and Ahmad Ajaj – were sentenced to life for bombing the World Trade Center, which killed six people and injured 100.
Those guys dont sound like people born in Kansas!!
Posted by: Bowser | June 19, 2007, 12:41 am 12:41 am
I say, (to all you yellow belly libs and terrorists) Bring it. Were ready for ya either here on the homeland or in your hut or hole in the ground. These colors don’t run!
Posted by: Americanandproudofit | June 19, 2007, 12:41 am 12:41 am
No translation provided…bad reporting…again.
Posted by: Greg | June 19, 2007, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Why isn’t the “Pakistani journalist” in Guanatnamo with a vice around his head giving up the information on these camps?
I say raise the drawbridge, cut off all food exports and let them drink their oil.
Posted by: crock | June 19, 2007, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Well, Bush definitely can’t pull out of Iraq now. Those twelve-year old boys might either stow away on their homebound flights or steal their bonus flyer miles!
Posted by: Adrienne Collier | June 19, 2007, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Great, and Bush has deliberately refused to secure our borders. They surely crossed over from Canada or Mexico. People will die and it will be Bush’s fault for wanting open borders.
Posted by: xray | June 19, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am
If and when the civilian authority of the United States collapses from simultaneous nuclear attacks, we will finally be rid of the self-imposed moral limits for the sake of human rights and mutual co-existance. The Ummah will quickly discover that the fall of one Western power has only resulted in a hundred new enemies each with its own nuclear arsenals and legions of roving paramilitaries with absolutely no reason to hold back in a new war of ten-thousand years. And there will be no ACLU to bail out the fifth columnists in our midst.
Posted by: OJ Samson | June 19, 2007, 12:53 am 12:53 am
That so called “Amnesty bill” that all the conservatives hate would actually force them to build the fence and force all illegals to register, get fingerprinted and ID’d and photigraphed and database entered. Employers would have to use a worker verification system prior to hiring anyone. They ought to call it the “border security bill” and then people might realize that it is exactly what we need. Stop fearing the Mexicans and worry about who is here that we don’t know about. (See the illegal Fort Dix culprit planners -for Exhibit A). Stop blaming the ACLU and start forcing Congress to act. That proposed law would also force illegals off of welfare as an added bonus. But OH NO, they might get a greencard after 8 years if they stay clean, pay back taxes, and return to their country to re-register at a USA embassy in their own countr and undergo more background checks. So freaking what? They’ll have to pay $5000 grand fine and repent. It is high time we do something about the unknown people here and add border security. The bill actually does it in 6 outof the 7 sections. The other section has the Z visa so right wing radio has everybody going crazy because it is amnesty. Its just a visa, there is A LOT of stuff they gotta do to get a greencard, let alone citizenship. There is more border security packed into that bill than all prior immigration bills combined. Just a thought from someone who has actually read the proposed bill. GO BORDER SECURITY and TAMPER PROOF ID CARDS for aliens.
Posted by: rfinnie66 | June 19, 2007, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Well it’s about time. They picked a fight with us then run and hide in their
caves. But wait the Taliban offered up
Mr. bin Laden we turned them down. Where
is he anyway?I know he’s in a Hilton in Islamabad on a floor with no elevator
button. But we digress.
So your OBL, pull off the crime of forever.You just beat the greatest air
force of all time. What do you do? You vanish like a puff of smoke. HMMM!
I don’t know if you think like I do.
But if I’m him I take the next 19 guys
strap’em full of c-4 wait till next Tuesday. Then blow a bunch of you lazy fat stupid sheep in 19 different mini-marts while you are chowing down your
breakfast corndog. I would do that,Make love not war, that my motto
peace
Math and Physics don’t Lie
Poeple Do
Posted by: jimmythe saint | June 19, 2007, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Blowbacks are hell boys and girls!
Posted by: Llad | June 19, 2007, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Build the wall!
Posted by: Yuman | June 19, 2007, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Anyone that thinks the violence we face or are a part of is a result of religion is blind. The “religious” in the middle east are acting because they’re sheep that are following leaders that care nothing about their religion, only the financial benefits that they can sap out of their own people. Likewise, our government cares not whether violence overseas puts citizens and soldiers at risk, they care about vested financial interest of themselves and their wealthy supporters. We could have retaliated with a military strike following 9/11 in a much better, low risk way then hastily sending under-equipped, outmanned troops into an urban warzone that they were not trained to deal with. The day our political leaders have a vested interest in the survival of their families as the result of a war and not just the interest of their wallets will mark the day that reasonable decisions are made. The noblest of wars benefit few and hurt many.
Posted by: Jow | June 19, 2007, 1:04 am 1:04 am
bush should take the blame for not being ruthless enough when it comes to killing these @#?!s. How is it that a journalist was able to photograph the event without an American F-16 getting there first? Our intel sucks, our military has its hands tied and Bush cares too much about his image to do the right thing. It’s time to get medieval when dealing with stone-age mentality.
Posted by: chicagogirl | June 19, 2007, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Katie and Brian would greet them at the Airport and throw a big welcome party if they could….
Posted by: Dave | June 19, 2007, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Well, they don’t scare me. They’re going to have a hard time blowing anything up except themselves with those sheets wrapped around their heads.
Posted by: Quis | June 19, 2007, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Bush-hating, anti-war liberals seem to make up the majority of American society right now. We must all be self-hating.
Funny how right-wingers like to bring up Israel, yet we American Jews are one of the most solidly Democratic groups out there. Go figure.
Posted by: Larry | June 19, 2007, 1:08 am 1:08 am
“Posted by: Jebster | Jun 18, 2007 6:03:41 PM
Believing this stuff will happen is like believing the Boogey Man is hiding under your bed. ”
I guess you were absent on 9-11. Tell someone who jumped out of the WTC there’s nothing to fear but fear itself.
Posted by: Kyle Coppola | June 19, 2007, 1:08 am 1:08 am
“Such is what we are dealing with. The worst of things done by American soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison pale in comparison to what Muslim extremists do every day to other Muslims.”
Posted by: tramky | Jun 18, 2007 9:26:02 PM
This is a typical Republican argument: “They are bad, so what we do is not so bad if is not as bad as what they do.”
The point many fail to grasp is that when we do something bad, it is REALLY bad, because we have always held ourselves up to a higher standard; and when someone else does something bad, we can always call them on it–because we don’t do those things. I don’t know if you realize this yet, but thanks to Abu Ghraib, we can no longer say that. We can no longer tell others that we don’t do those things. And, when our soldiers are mistreated as prisoners, we can no longer claim “Geneva Conventions.” We have always held ourselves to a higher standard. That privilege is now gone.
Posted by: David Steele | June 19, 2007, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Katie will have to dust off her pompoms and cheer for the suicide bombers on the 6 o’clock news.. Brian Williams will smirk and wink and give them a big thumbs up…
Posted by: brian | June 19, 2007, 1:10 am 1:10 am
wow, thanks to little boy george, i feel safer
Posted by: k | June 19, 2007, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Electing Dems was a huge mistake America. Dems led by Harry Reid have already waved the white flag and surrendered. If these take hold in the US we need to stick together and do what is necessary to protect ourselves and our families. Imagine the targets people…grammar schools, churches, malls etc. Are you ready for that? I’m not. Those of you who have blamed Bush are the same who voted for the likes of Harry Reid. Appeasement hell. The hands of our fighting forces have been tied long enough by the stupidity right here in the US of A. Will the Dems tie the hands of citizens here too defending our homeland if and when it is needed? For 6 years Dems have whined about their rights…wake up morons as if you don’t you won’t have any rights to speak of. These terrorists mean business-it’s beyond time for ALL citizens of the US to mean business also. There are MANY vets who feel as I do and will take up arms…I can hear the libs and their “fear mongering” comments already.
Damn how stupid some of you truly are in your worlds of make believe!
Posted by: Simply Fed Up | June 19, 2007, 1:12 am 1:12 am
The failings of American education are strikingly evident on this thread. The delusional conspiracies about this Administration are so tired and pathetic as to be jokes if so many didn’t somehow believe them.
Lack of historical context and willful blindness as to the geopolitics of the Iraq War (where the U.S.’s opponents used asymetric methods to protect THEIR financial interests there) are no excuse for injecting venom in what is a real world out there. Please people, if the whole world hated the U.S. so much, why are European elections now being won by the most pro-U.S. candidates? Could it be that they’ve realized that with the U.S. left advancing someone must act responsibly in the vacuum?
Most disgusting of all . . . that anyone with freedom of thought would suggest that the U.S. government is somehow worse than a government that killed over 20 million of own citizens. Like I said, no contextual understanding.
Posted by: L. Brown | June 19, 2007, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Thank you, Mr. bush, for leaving the borders open so that suicide bombers can come through and kill men, women and children, irregardless of whether they have done anything bad to anyone.
This will be an impeachable offense when the first bomb goes off.
Posted by: Ricardo | June 19, 2007, 1:13 am 1:13 am
It should not be to difficult to get into the U.S. and once they are here the Democrats and their Senate leader Harry Reid will make sure they too are granted U.S. citizenship.
I wonder if he’s worked out a deal so they stay away from Nevada?
Posted by: Jack | June 19, 2007, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Some of these comments/commentors are so completely IGNORANT..
All I can say is that it is quite good you are indoors at a computer and not out in public were you could do harm to youselves or innocent others with your Drooling Stupidity…
Posted by: Antagony | June 19, 2007, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Do you think anyone failed the class?
Posted by: John | June 19, 2007, 1:14 am 1:14 am
After reading many of feedbacks here, I have become saddened because to solve terrorist threat we need to unite as a nation, not finger pointing each other or taking sides. This is a very serious matter, and what we must do is to prepare and prevent the worse to come to our societies, here and abroad. I think we better use our energy to find the best solution of this horrendous threat. It’s not easy but USA and our allies have millions of citizens that can contribute good insights to this problem. We are in hundred of millions and their numbers are not too great so please….
Posted by: Yayan | June 19, 2007, 1:14 am 1:14 am
“radical islam, like radical christianity, doesn’t happen in a vacuum.”
Another genius.
I don’t see too many “radical christians” hijacking planes and driving them into buildings. Your comparing compare the handful of idiots who bombed what, like 5 abortion clinics over the last 20 years to the radical ideology that has left HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS dead? Ridiculous.
Posted by: Kyle Coppola | June 19, 2007, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Murder of innocent civilians is evil no matter who does it or how its done. There is plenty of innocent blood on the hands of all governments.
Posted by: david | June 19, 2007, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Great news. Now if we could just open up that border…wait! It’s already wide open and no one’s doing a thing to protect it. Great work George. I feel ashamed that i voted for you twice.
Carter’s legacy: Helicopter’s burning in the desert and gas lines.
Clinton’s legacy: Interns and scandals
W’s Legacy: dead civilians in malls across America (just wait i’m sure it will happen), a war won and a peace lost, the border open as far as the eye can see, 12 million (and more) illegals suddenly legalized and still no border enforcement.
What happened to this country?
Posted by: Harvey | June 19, 2007, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Sure would be nice if we could bring back the Jefferson school of thought…”Government of the people, by the people, for the people…”
Posted by: Rachel | June 19, 2007, 1:20 am 1:20 am
Project For A New American Century: Google it and learn. 9/11 – Inside Job(if you believe 19 guys with box cutters did this,you are just too naive to be real, Al Qaeda funded by CIA, It’s all about oil, you know it and I know it. Bush and Cheney are professional fear mongering all stars. I love this country but I truly hate this government.Wake up America!!!
Posted by: paul | June 19, 2007, 1:22 am 1:22 am
All it boils down is the 2008 elections. The hate america crowd would find nothing wrong with what is going on in the world if we had a Democrat as president right now. It amazes me that people on the right use facts to prove a point and all you get from the left are replies like stupid foxnews watching idiot. I am starting to truely believe that political action groups on the left monitor these blogs because most left responces sound like the same democratic talking points.
Posted by: James | June 19, 2007, 1:25 am 1:25 am
It has come to me that Noah’s flood and the dark ages are both Bush’s fault since he was unable to stop them too
Posted by: KenC | June 19, 2007, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Suicide Bomb Teams from Afghanistan are just a reality that we are going to dealing with. Suicide bombers don’t scare me enough to disturbed my sleep or tomorrow’s plans.
Posted by: pusedo | June 19, 2007, 1:29 am 1:29 am
In case anyone is surprised by what the film shows, go read “The Looming Tower.” It’s all in there – the roots of Islamofascism in Egypt of the mid-20th century, to a totally committed, though terribly twisted and contradictory philosophy of blood rage.
I like how people criticize Bush and his people for somehow “screwing things up”. Without George Bush and Dick Cheney, we would be a toothless shell of a former power. Those dudes fear us, when we capture their internal communications, they are frustrated at how they’re pinned down in Iraq and Afghanistan when they want to be blowing up America.
Posted by: Jack in Phoenix | June 19, 2007, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Brandon,
re:
“Nobody is saying that their was no anti-American sentiment before we invaded Iraq. What I am saying is that there was united American support after 9/11, and every single action W has committed since this point has eroded the pro-American sentiment.”
THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ERODING OUR SUPPORT AROUND THE WORLD. THEY HAVE BEEN TEARING DOWN OUR STATURE SINCE 9/11.
Posted by: Bill | June 19, 2007, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Who knows if it is true or not. It could be Taliban propaganda or it could be American. It also has a chance of being real information. You really don’t know these days.
Posted by: Satellite Dude | June 19, 2007, 1:30 am 1:30 am
After reading the first couple of dozen posts; then skimming throught the rest I could not help but be reminded of the line from Monty Python’s “Life of Brian” during the Sermon on the Mount scene.
“I think what Jesus fails to apreciate, the meek are the problem.”
I would just update the screenplay and substitue the word “meek” with “religious.” Would make more sense given today’s horrid bloody sectarian world-wide violence commited in the name of a silly believe in bearded sky-god overlord. It would be comical if only it weren’t so…
Posted by: Steve in CO | June 19, 2007, 1:31 am 1:31 am
A lot of people on here have fallen for the Bush mantra of “They hate us for our freedoms.” What B.S.!
They hate us for our foreign policy.
Posted by: K Ols | June 19, 2007, 1:36 am 1:36 am
The Puppet Masters are distracting you folks again; time to wake-up, while you all are preoccupied with this “urgent” news story, is anyone paying attention to the Immigration Reform Bill that our beloved C-n-C put back on the table for Congress to reconsider?
Posted by: Copperfield | June 19, 2007, 1:42 am 1:42 am
The media is working with our own government to keep this nation distracted while our puppet president turns U.S.A into NAU The NORTH AMERICAN UNION. The agreements already been signed. Oct. 2006 Pres. GWB also signed into law and did away with Habius Corpus, so when they do creat a national emergency…..they can haul anyone away to the interment camps (closed military bases) and you have no say or leagal recourse. If you don’t beleive it now….just wait till 2010, thats the target year to have their plan in place…been a very long time in the making. We are sheeple to them. That should make you do some research and find out what the truth is about the NAU.
Posted by: i'swideopen | June 19, 2007, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Hopefully a Democrat will get in and straighten this out by sending all terrorists to a government program that counsels them into submission.
Posted by: Gabe | June 19, 2007, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Why do the suicide bombers have their sights set on a neutral target such as Canada? Canada is about as passive as it gets, but it must be U.S.’s fault obviously… What will it take for liberals to understand the kind of people we are at war with? They don’t care if our motives are for peace or not. WE are the infidels to them.
Posted by: Chantel | June 19, 2007, 1:48 am 1:48 am
When are we going to fight and lead the world in a real ww3 against this enemy?How many more americians and none americians must die? 3,000? 30,000? 300,000? IT COULD BE YOUR LOVED ONE NEXT!!!
Posted by: rocky | June 19, 2007, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Terrorism has INCREASED in the last 7 years. I am certain attacking a country who was no threat to us, while allowing those who flew planes into buildings here to roam free did nothing to fan the flames of extremists. Bush is a bigger danger to the USA than any terrorist. Impeach the criminals and start a full court press with diplomacy, maybe this will improve relations with other countries.
Posted by: tbsa | June 19, 2007, 1:50 am 1:50 am
This is just sad. Why do we only think in two terms? Left vs right? Why do you believe that any multi-millionaire with their own personal security detail knows how to ‘keep us safe’. Forgive me for using the phrase but we should think outside the box on this one.
I have never once heard anyone discuss limits and better policing of bomb-making materials. No one mentions increasing our efforts to infiltrate these groups. Are we even trying to sow dissension among ‘the enemy’?
Politicians are too busy trying to get elected (or re-elected) to freely engage in constructive debate.
We waste our time and endanger our lives when we fight each other.
Posted by: Andre | June 19, 2007, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Too bad that we could not have sent a couple cruise missles over head as a graduation gift.
Posted by: quickphil | June 19, 2007, 1:53 am 1:53 am
The thing you folks need to consider is that this is Afghanistan. Before 9/11 the Taliban and Al Qaeda had intended to break through the Panshir Valley and take the Fergana Valley to the north. This valley feeds a large portion of Central Aisa. Capturing this area would have given the Taliban/AQ control of central asia (or at least a very good starting point).
The only thing standing in their way was Ahmad Shah Massoud and his “army”. He was assasinated on 8/11 (not sure exactly which day he died 8th or 9th). This was carried out by Al Qaeda (after a number of attempts). After 9/11 the Russians frantically tried to bomb the Taliban (using unmarked aircraft) to slow their advance. Then the Americans showed up and the rest of the story you know.
This was an event that was unfolding prior to American involvement. It had nothing to do with us. Our involvement served two purposes, to put the Taliban/AQ out of business and to stop their advance into Fergana. You will also recall that we supported the Afghanistan mujaheddin during the Soviet occupation (so if anything, they should probably have though favorably of us to a large degree).
So next time, before you start throwing around accusations for irresposibility, stop and try to understand what is actually going on in the world. The world is a lot more complicated than you give it credit for.
-Noone
Posted by: nevermind | June 19, 2007, 1:54 am 1:54 am
is no one willing to concede that we in the u.s. have been persuasively placed at odds to the point of stagnancy? is there anyone in the new gop revue who does not have any reservations about the incessant attacks on domestic adversaries that reveals the underlying hatred that has been nurtured by oreilly and the spin cycle? what ab0out respect for our government when your team isnt in office? how dare you castigate critics of bush, et al., after having engaged in bitter hatred? who the hell do you think you are?
i am in the military, served a tour in iraq. now, tell me how patriotic you are with that idiotic W and yellow magnets on your car.
sign up or shut up.
Posted by: ahnoldhorshak | June 19, 2007, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Total bull. That’s what it is. With 10,000 coming accorss the border eveyday illegally, not even a firecraker has gone off. If you believe this story, the go vote for Bush gain!
Posted by: Mark | June 19, 2007, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Johnny T writes:
“So for you morons coming out here trying to portray the US as Darth Vader’s Empire and terrorist jihadis as Luke Skywalker, you have serious mental and self-preservation problems.”
That is called a “straw man” argument. It’s performed often on Fox “News” and right-wing talk radio. Nobody ever says that we are bad and they are good, JohnnyT. Because the situation is more complicated (not simply black and white) than the way you describe it, it’s easier for you to put up a false and simplistic argument of your own design (a straw man), so you can easily and smugly knock it down.”
Because the situation is more complicated? You mean like on 9/11? These jihadis spend 24/7 training and planning to blow as many of us up as they can. That’s ALL they do! That’s why they call them terorists. And yes, I will take sides. I’ve seen the beheading videos. There is good and there is evil.
You’re just too wishy-washy to take a stand. Everything’s complex and nuanced to you, and not as it appears. You know, sometimes a megalomaniac fascist is just that: a megalomaniac fascist.
You can’t negotiate or engage in dplomacy with them. You can only kill them before they kill you. Have you learned nothing from history?
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 19, 2007, 2:06 am 2:06 am
FEAR!! FEAR!! RUN!!! HIDE!!!! IMMIGRANTS! FOREIGNERS! Men with dark skin! Egads, anyone stupid enough to fall for these silly lies and ridiculous stories must be a gullible christian.
Got duct tape and plastic? Hey, how’s the investigation into the White House treason coming along? Move along folks, no treason, electioneering and fraud to see here folks, move along, move along? Karl, hey, how you doing? Been Roved lately?
Posted by: radwriter055 | June 19, 2007, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Why on earth do you people expect the beseiged and dessimated people of the middle east to NOT fight back? You western imperialists have been attacking, destroying and occupying the middle east for more than 50 years, laying waste to a region that you have no business being in. How can you not expect them to want to retaliate for the horrors you’ve brought to them for half a century?
Posted by: tedemalet | June 19, 2007, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Hey Brian Ross. It’s Hamilton vs Burr all over again. We’re supposed to fire a shot in the air and take one because we have a Republican President. Just ask the Democrats. Only, unlike Burr, these Terrorists will shoot us in the back after the first pace. They play by their own rules.
Posted by: James | June 19, 2007, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Any person with half a brain could see this coming. After the first mall bombing it would probably a good thing to invest in Amazon and other online retailers cuz the mall traffic will be virtually non-existent.
Oh,and for you Bush defenders, all I can say is that he made things far worse by invading and occupying Iraq. Let’s see one of you Mensa members arque away that.
Also, US is currently in Iraq until that damn Parliament signs those darn oil sharing agreements, so that US and European oil companies can get the lion’s share of the oil profits and not share so much with the Iraquis. Figure it out boys and girls!
Posted by: ronsnel | June 19, 2007, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Every teenager in America should join the military in exchange for a free college education. Problem solved!
Posted by: John | June 19, 2007, 2:12 am 2:12 am
WHERE’S THE FENCE? WHERE’S THE FENCE? WHERE’S THE FENCE?!
Posted by: Patriot2 | June 19, 2007, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Why not try rooting for your own team for once?
Posted by: Greg | June 19, 2007, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Yeah, sure everyone hates us. I guess that’s why France just elected a pro-American government, and a Democrat Congressman said last week that he’s glad the Chirac and Schroder gov’t in France and Germany are gone because they didn’t stand up to help us when we needed the assistance.
Maybe the 10,000 Peace Corps people that Edwards wants to sent can fix the problem. Actually, that will mean a necessity for 10,000 body bags.
Posted by: Tom | June 19, 2007, 2:21 am 2:21 am
And yet the U.S. doesn’t seem to concerned about securing our southern border.
Posted by: Bill Fold | June 19, 2007, 2:21 am 2:21 am
It’s amazing how many Liberal nincompoops believe that W is the real ememy, and not the Muslim extremists. Listen to what Bin Laden and his buddies say about Bush, then listen to the Left in this country…they sound like Mockingbirds. The fact is, Libs, like it or not, every major Democrat Candidate for President in previous election cycles had declared that Saddam had chemical, if not nuclear weapons, and that he must be dealt with. A video surfaced recently of Algore slamming GHW Bush in the run-up to the ’92 election for not taking the threat from Iraq seriously. Klinton told us about the WMD’s during his presidency, Kerry told voters that if they didn’t believe that Saddam was a world threat, don’t vote for him. All of this crap that the Libs and the drive-by media feeds us about how we/ they were “misled” by W is utter lies and nonsense. It’s time the Left in this country joins the USA in the fight to rid the world of this human debris that is threatening our Democracy, as well as our way of life, instead of being mouthpieces for Al Qaida.
Posted by: Rainman | June 19, 2007, 2:23 am 2:23 am
THANK YOU JIMMY CARTER AND ALL OF YOU DRUGGED OUT DRUNKEN LIBERAL LOOSER CRY BABIES. I CANT TELL YOU TO GET A LIFE BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY SOLD IT or smoked it.
Posted by: ilivedinhaitionce | June 19, 2007, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Oh come ON!
Do you American stupids really believe these obvious lies? No wonder the USA stands for United Stupids of America!
Posted by: Petkov | June 19, 2007, 2:26 am 2:26 am
This is a completely FAKE story. Out Fascist Government wants to keep you Sheeple SCARED. Most of these comments were made by ABC”News” people anyways. The Land of the “Free”.
Posted by: fascistUSA | June 19, 2007, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Short-term solution seems to be cautious and aware. Long-term, to take out the leaders that are contra USA and allies. That should leave things in a docile state until more trouble seeking leaders appear. Lemmings will go where they are led.
Posted by: acer | June 19, 2007, 2:39 am 2:39 am
yes there were terrorist groups with hatred towards the U.S. prior to our invasion of Iraq..that being said, as i believe was said by someone on Bill Mahrer’s show one night (whose show btw i don’t care for but happened to channel surf onto) Al Qaeda is no longer a group it’s a lifestyle. i think this is a very accurate statement and the current administration largely accountable.
for those of you who defend the administration and actions taken since 9/11 particularly in Iraq allow me to play devil’s advocate and ask you a question. has there ever been a time when public opinion OUTSIDE our country has been so negative towards us? we even get booed at the Olympics now. i traveled all over Europe two years ago and in my dialog with locals in each country it was disturbing how negatively they view our country and administration especially when you consider right after 9/11 public opinion around the world was virtually unanimous in their support for us. clearly to those on the outside looking in at the USA we have done something wrong. perhaps we on the inside should open our eyes.
Posted by: C$ | June 19, 2007, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Let’s get these mis-guided bombs before they get us! If they’re being trained in Pakistan- then we’ve got to get there and take them out before it’s too late! If they’re being trained in Afghanistan or Iran, then we must be there. Why are we waisting our time in Iraqi? If terrorism is our priority, we must kill all of the terrorists. Forget nation building.
Posted by: Mick | June 19, 2007, 2:46 am 2:46 am
A far bigger threat is the invasion of 18 million illegal aliens aided by the dupes in Congress!
Posted by: Frank | June 19, 2007, 2:47 am 2:47 am
No need to fear this affront. It’s more propaganda than a warning. Al Qaeda doesn’t warn when it plans on attacking. It didn’t in 1993 when they bombed the WTC for the first time. They didn’t when they bombed the Khobar Towers, when they bombed our embassies in Tanzinia, etc, the USS Cole bombing, or the 9/11 attacks. This is part of the propaganda machine put together by our enemy who, regardless of who we elect as our leadership, hate Americans of all varieties; be they: white, black, hispanic, asian, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, their fellow Muslims, upper-class, middle-class, lower-class….they hate America. Not our freedoms, as suggested by our leadership, but our existence. We’ll see these twelve year olds in Iraq or Afghanistan fighting our finest soldiers in the streets before they ever touch American, Canadian, British, or German soil.
Posted by: Jordan | June 19, 2007, 2:47 am 2:47 am
A number of people have said that this is the result of Bush’s aggressive war stance. Others have disagreed, pointing out that this has been going on since before 9/11.
You’re both right. We’ve been punching middle easterners in the face for decades, and they are punching back now.
Take the moral high ground, America. Treat terrorism with the police action it deserves, not with bloated and misdirected wars.
Elect someone who will do exactly that: Vote Ron Paul.
Posted by: iknowyou | June 19, 2007, 2:49 am 2:49 am
COMPLETE GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA. THIS STORY IS A LIE.
Posted by: FascistUSA | June 19, 2007, 2:53 am 2:53 am
Religious extremists should be rooted out.
Religion is to often used as an excuse to kill.
Drugs are available in high security prisons so there is no way we can keep determined people from entering into the USA illegally.
The exploitation of people for profit started long ago and this among other bad policy has resulted in groups of people who hate the west.
Bush simply made everything a million times worse. After 9-11 even the people of Iran felt sympathy to the USA. Iran was getting more secular untill Bush declared them evil and encouraged them to elect a radical religious extremist for President.
Bush and Cheyney are oil men and they will not do the most important thing; finding new sources of energy.
If oil becomes worthless then the Middle East becomes a worthless pile of sand.
If we surrender our freedoms to Big Brother Government the Religious extremists win.
Posted by: Rich Blackmoor | June 19, 2007, 2:56 am 2:56 am
Well there were definitaly no Islamic Terrorists in the U.S. befor U.S. started messing up with their army in the middle east…what started long ago… it dindnt start with 9/11 and afganistan! You forget who supported bin laden ones…
Posted by: Andi | June 19, 2007, 2:59 am 2:59 am
…and in who’s name are they doing most of this? Who has George Dubya on a string? Who is the excuse everyone has for being how they are…good or bad? Stop believing in Santa Clauses and most of this goes away.
Posted by: Cliff | June 19, 2007, 3:01 am 3:01 am
It’s time to “fight to win” and bury these people before they bury us.
Posted by: Steve | June 19, 2007, 3:06 am 3:06 am
All of America’s wars have had opponents here at home. Even our revolutionary war saw over 50% of the population against the War for Independence. The American Civil War also had massive opposition among the U.S. population. Lincoln was viciously scorned for his steadfast approach to saving the Union. Millions hated him…the war was costly, the war killed hundreds of thousands, there were countless mistakes made along the way…
Thank God for a man named Lincoln and his willingness to take the country through the worst experience in its history.
It seems that many today who are opposed the Iraq War simply lack the confidence in man’s ultimate ability to improve his world through the destruction of tyrannical regimes. Unfortunately, that mind-set is nothing new to this or any other nation. There always have been, and always will be, people who simply don’t believe that war can eventually make things better. History has proven them wrong time and time again (but they don’t seem to care).
Posted by: john denton | June 19, 2007, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Wow! I don’t believe I have ever witnessed such a healthy variety of intelligent comments. I am waiting for someone to say we should use immigrants for biological tests etc. and change our Constitution so that we can elect Bush again. I suggest we take some time to understand what is happening in and around our country. To get us all on the right track, did you know that people actually live outside of the US and they are just like us with hands, feet and eyes etc.? Yes I am serious isn’t that awesome. Let’s make a commitment to think a little for the sake of the next generation.
Posted by: Dave | June 19, 2007, 3:12 am 3:12 am
The Desert Eagle is unusual in that it uses a gas-operated mechanism normally found in rifles, as opposed to the short recoil or blow-back designs most commonly seen in semi-automatic pistols. In fact, the rotating bolt and locking mechanism bear a strong resemblance to that of the M16 series of rifles. The advantage of the gas-operation is that it allows the use of far more powerful cartridges than traditional semi-automatic pistol designs, and it allows the Desert Eagle to compete in an area that had previously been dominated by magnum revolvers. Although this has the disadvantage of prohibiting the use of lead bullets because lead is too soft, leading to lead particles blocking the gas release hole, preventing proper function.
Posted by: Thomas Jones | June 19, 2007, 3:16 am 3:16 am
they are disguising themselves as Canadians and walking across the northern border in broad daylight.
Posted by: Barnabus | June 19, 2007, 3:18 am 3:18 am
I thought Bush said we went to war in Iraq so we would fight them over there and not over here? Oh wait, it was because they hate our freedoms. No, it was because they had WMD. No, it was, er, what IS the reason now? Maybe now the borders will get some work. What ever happened to the billions and billions earmarked for a border wall anyway? Is that still waiting to be spent or has it been spent so Halliburton could move to Dubai?
Posted by: Smokr | June 19, 2007, 3:20 am 3:20 am
More fear mongering as usual courtesy of the mainstream media. YAWN…. What’s the terror color of the day? Hot Pink? Blue Green?
Posted by: Hack Nike | June 19, 2007, 3:24 am 3:24 am
With the price of gas these days im surprised we dont have american suicide bombers in iraq, wait nevermind we have all the military there protecting our oil. I mean protecting us from terrorists.
Posted by: derek | June 19, 2007, 3:25 am 3:25 am
To All Naive Rubes:
If you believe that the President lied and that PM Blair was complicit in that lie, please switch to eating with plastic utensils now!
If the President’s and PM’s political foes had credible evidence of them being untruthful, wouldn’t they have attempted the impeachment of both leaders by now?
It’s all political hedging and theater being perpetrated by the left, not substantive debate!
If you think Saddam didn’t have weapons, raw materials and plans sent to neighboring countries or destroyed, I’d say you’re a drooling piece of colossal ignorance and should probably take a course in logic and reasoning!
Put leftists in charge of government at your own peril fools!
Posted by: Trevor | June 19, 2007, 3:28 am 3:28 am
It’s time to punish these morons to the point where they’ll be afraid to screw with us again. We have the weapons to shut these people up for hundreds of years, or completely annihilate them if necessary. I am dead serious, it’s time to stop these idiots for good.
Posted by: EF | June 19, 2007, 3:30 am 3:30 am
Talk talk talk, when are you gonna declare war and act like it is a war.
Oh ya there are still a lot of Americans that think it is America’s fault. You are soft, you dont want to put down the remote control and do something. IT must be someone elses job, this will be your undoing.
Declare war and act like it is a war.
Posted by: Ken | June 19, 2007, 3:31 am 3:31 am
Saddam: sponsored by the US
The Shah of Iran: made possible bij the US
The Saudi Kingdom: US supported
Osama Bin Laden: trained by the US
Todays crap is just a continuation of US policy of messing around in other nations. US leaders don’t care if civilians get hurt. They just want more instability. Because instability brings violence and war, and that gives an excuse for a strong all controlling government and brings more halliburton profits.
Posted by: Pol Kapitein | June 19, 2007, 3:34 am 3:34 am
Let’s get real. There have always been extremists on their side and on ours. The biggest problem is the arrogance and self-rightiousness that allows us to act like we did nothing wrong. The US warmongers, bankers, oil giants and the like have been meddling with other countries’ affairs for a long long time. It was only a matter of time before we started feeling some blow-back. You think that maybe all the dead children and all the hijacked oil and super rich megacorps taking possession of THEIR natural resources while they live in poverty might have something to do with their hatred of us? I can guarantee you they don’t hate us because we have (so-called) free-speech and HBO.
Posted by: johnny4america | June 19, 2007, 3:44 am 3:44 am
we all gotta go sometime, but I really do not want it to be at the hands of a suicide bomber at a freaking mall.
Posted by: jbou | June 19, 2007, 3:53 am 3:53 am
Stop blaming the terrorists. If they were only shown support and appreciation, America would not be the enemy.
We are imperialists. We are selfish.
This world does not need any more casualties, either Americans or Muslims.
We must accept this fate and begin negotiations to reduce the loss of innocent lives.
Stop invading innocent countries and reach out to terrorist groups, like Al-Qaida to understand what they want.
Hillary Clinton says “You always should talk to your enemies and she’s right.”
There is hope for a future, without violence. Both sides must settle down and come to a compromise.
It shouldn’t be a shock for Americans to have to give up their rights in order to achieve peace. We have already given up our core rights to privacy with the PATRIOT ACT.
The Muslims can be reasonable and we need to listen to them. Both sides can coexist peacefully. All we need is a compromise.
Posted by: Steven | June 19, 2007, 4:03 am 4:03 am
Well I’m glad some Americans aren’t in Afghanistan. I feel sure with their anti-American sentiments and general hate of….well….pretty much everything, they would make great recruits for the next “kill yourself and lots of innocents for god” team assigned to attack the United States.
Posted by: Bruce P | June 19, 2007, 4:06 am 4:06 am
Why don’t Bush and Company ask their Friends in the Royal House of Saud to quit funding these extremist?
The leaders of this country have no interest in protecting the citizens. With the treasury spent on the disaster in Iraq, we could have integrated real security at home and possibly made a difference in Afghanistan. But nooooo, The Administration lied about 911/Iraq link and the majority of both political parties kept silent.
Can the US earmark some of those faith based funds and train our own suicide bombers? Any bored Regents University students available?
Posted by: Hipster | June 19, 2007, 4:15 am 4:15 am
Hate to say It my Liberal Brothers, The folks over there want to kill your babies.
Moms Dads, and your way of life. They won’t be happy until everyone is miserable.
this is there only Goal, Blame whoever you want they will keep coming, they will never be happy.
Pray for all our Leaders!
Posted by: Merlin | June 19, 2007, 4:17 am 4:17 am
A couple of things that all great civilizations have done in these situations:
a) We need to take a census of afghanistan and iraq.
b) Simple answer to IED’s, pave the Roads
c) an eye for an eye
d) cut them off all family members financially
Why is he riding in a police car?
Posted by: Aaron C | June 19, 2007, 4:17 am 4:17 am
When dealing with this type of enemy, there is only ONE military doctrine that will bring peace…
Hit them HARD until they SUE for peace.
And the ONLY way to do that is to:
a) let the Generals do the fighting
b) keep the Media AWAY from the front
c) unleash enough military force to defeat your opponent 10 times over
d) wage war like a full-court press until one of two outcomes becomes apparent
* your enemy kneels before you suing for peace or
** you annihilate your enemy
From that moment on, NO country will EVER doubt your resolve as you ‘speak softly and carry a BIG stick’.
Posted by: Analog Kid | June 19, 2007, 4:18 am 4:18 am
Republicans say too many people blame Bush, but it seems that all Republicans do is make excuses, excuses and more excuses for the idiot President who has played right into the hands of el Qeada. We wont win the war on terror bombing away wildly in the deserts of Iraq or knocking out their cities. It’s going to take slick undercover James Bond style work to fight terror combined with the help of other countries. Unfortunately, yes –thanks to Bush- most countries no longer like or respect us. That hurts us in the fight against terrorism. Again, terrorism is not countered effectively by Rambo techniques, it is James Bond style work that will give us the most protection.
Posted by: fivepunch | June 19, 2007, 4:22 am 4:22 am
As long as our foreign policy supports the extortion of these people’s riches and we prop up evil dictators to rule them … we are the enemy.
Do the math … what would you do if some foreign nation invaded your state, replaced your government and gave the riches of your lands to companies from theirs.
I cannot believe anyone in this country is suprised!
Posted by: Sad American | June 19, 2007, 4:27 am 4:27 am
What really bothers me is that our country is so divided on the war. We ARE at war folks! It’s time to get behind our troops! It doesn’t matter what you believe about the President, why we’re at war, or who is at fault for terrorists hating the United States. They do hate us and they want each and everyone of us dead. If we don’t unite, they will win, we will crumble. Our way of life will no longer exist. Chances are we wouldn’t even be allowed to own computers, get online to gripe about our petty problems, and point blaming fingers at each other if this country were to come under Islamic/Terrorist control.
I’m sure the Romans never thought they would crumble or that their way of life would ever cease to exist. Well it did. And it didn’t happen over night.
The President isn’t perfect but at least he has taken a stand. That I can respect. Sticking your head in the sand in regards to what the terrorist have planned and want to do to everyone that doesn’t believe exactly what they believe, not just the United States, that’s something I can’t respect.
Posted by: BeEtLjOoZ | June 19, 2007, 4:36 am 4:36 am
0 WMDS. Impeach.
Posted by: 0 WMDS | June 19, 2007, 4:38 am 4:38 am
It’s the foreign policy, stupid
They fight the US becuase the US supports Israel, supports Arab dictators, and have military bases in Muslim countries.
As long as these factors continue, there will always be war.
Posted by: TAS | June 19, 2007, 4:40 am 4:40 am
This ‘graduation’ ceremony is all the more proof that George W Bush is as weak on national defense and the War on Terror as the Democrats…
Yes, Muslim extremists hated America and its values before 9/11, and this is readily apparent through incidents such as the earlier WTC bombing, the USS Cole and others. 9/11 was another step on a longer ‘war’.
However, if 9/11 taught us anything, it is to defend our borders and target the RIGHT enemy. Last I checked, Osama bin Ladin was somewhere in Afghanistan, NOT Iraq… We had support from countries throughout the world to go after al-Qaeda and take Osama down…
What did we do? We somehow got lost and decided to wage war in Iraq, making up as many stories as possible to persuade Americans that this was ‘right’. This may seem to be a comment of an ‘armchair general’, but it is an obvious point: Why start a war (or a theatre) when you haven’t finished the one you’re already in? It is a simple FACT that a single-theatre war is easier to manage than a mult-theatre war…
Some claim that Bush was a ‘visionary’, looking at a longer-term war on terror. If this was the case, I struggle to understand why he so stubbornly focused on an issue that wasn’t there (or, a problem that was being contained for 12 years, and could have waited a while longer before being addressed), whilst leaving our borders wide open??
How could a ‘visionary’ put major U.S. ports under the effective control of the U.A.E., especially when that same ‘visionary’ requires airport passengers to put their toothpaste in a clear plastic bag when flying? Why do those travelling to the U.S. on visas require personal interviews and detailed background checks, while others (INCLUDING TERRORISTS) are likely to be allowed permanent residency (through the Z-visas)??
Bush advocated Dubai ports, and he is now advocating the immigration bill that specifically ALLOWS gang members, terrorists and those defying deportation orders to get legal status… (Note, Clinton and Obama voted for this, but SO DID JOHN MCCAIN and other REPUBLICANS!!).
I for one don’t trust the guard who travels the world looking for a potential threat whilst leaving the doors of my own home wide open.
Posted by: Tony | June 19, 2007, 4:40 am 4:40 am
Of course the aftermath of the war in
Iraq has not gone as anyone in America would have liked to have seen it. But the truth is the “pro-American sentiment” after 9-11 has been revealed to not have been pro-American at all. It was mere sympathy which when tested was proven to be weak and easily dissolved. Why has France and Russia and China done everyhting they can to weaken any attempts by the US at the U.N. to crush Islamic terrorists? Because they were never the allies that they have pretended to be. If anything, President Bush has done a good job of revealing the these countries for what they are–unfriendly to America.
Posted by: Brad | June 19, 2007, 4:47 am 4:47 am
Some basics
After the first gulf war a large permanent US presence was established in the middle east
In 1996 Bin Laden signed and issued a Declaration of Jihad outlining his organization’s goals: drive US forces from the Arabian Peninsula, overthrow the Government of Saudi Arabia, liberate Muslim holy sites, and support Islamic revolutionary groups around the world. He declares that Saudis have the right to strike at US troops in the Persian Gulf.
Fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here makes no sense, especially when you look at the stated goals of Bin Laden.
We need find ways to stop fundamentalist views from propagating. The large unfocused conflict we are waging at the moment helps the fundamentalists recruit.
Posted by: uncommon sense | June 19, 2007, 4:53 am 4:53 am
All you people seem to care about is whether “proper” Americans are at risk or not. So what if a couple of dozen thousand Afghanies get the boot? As long as ONE American pulls through, it’s aaall right. Blasphemists
Posted by: nonamerican | June 19, 2007, 5:05 am 5:05 am
Sure are a lot of mixed nuts on this site. World history as FOX News tells it. Bush has screwed America. Lied in the State of the Union Address, and all these nuts still believe him. How can their be so many right wing in America?
Posted by: Bob van den Broeck | June 19, 2007, 5:20 am 5:20 am
RE jimmythe saint
“Make love not war, that my motto
peace”
Contradiction much?
This is the problem with most leftist in America and in Europe. Some of them secretly hope for terrorist attacks and the killing of civilians, because they feel them justified. Like we deserve it.
“Math and Physics don’t Lie
Poeple Do”
Your problem here is that it is ‘people’ that do Math and Physics. So are their results infallible? or Math and Physics itself?
Well aren’t Math and Physics just formulas derived from these lying humans??
Posted by: Keith | June 19, 2007, 5:23 am 5:23 am
what a bunch of suckers…..
Media is just entertainment, they say something (no mather what) and you just believe it, without questioning. Who’s dumb?
The Iraqis did nothing wrong to anyone.
The problems today are all a hoax of the Illuminati.
Use your brains!!
Posted by: brightman | June 19, 2007, 5:27 am 5:27 am
Terrorist attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11 – ZERO. We must be doing something right over there.
Posted by: AJ | June 19, 2007, 5:32 am 5:32 am
Terrorists, even if they increased “efficiency” by 1000%, won’t come remotely close to reaching the amount of deaths we essentially cause ourselves through alchohol, drugs, smoking and car accidents.
I’m far more worried, on a day to day basis, about staying alive on the road with bad / drunk drivers around than a suicide bomber popping up.
Posted by: Will | June 19, 2007, 5:32 am 5:32 am
sounds like a bad news
jenny
Posted by: jenny | June 19, 2007, 5:34 am 5:34 am
ABC News consultant Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism official is a disgrace to this nation. He should have spoke out during his tenure in the Clinton Administration. He instead waited till he was passed over for a better job by Condi and then retire to speak up. He is a punk and I hope he can clean his soul from the money he makes on that book he published. Good hire ABC!!!! NOT!!
I know your true colors Clarke.
Posted by: Vince | June 19, 2007, 5:40 am 5:40 am
The terrorists would think twice if they knew we were targeting their families. It’s a terrable thought, but better theirs than mine.
Posted by: AKMA | June 19, 2007, 5:59 am 5:59 am
We don’t have to worry. They will go straight to Iraq. After all, we’re fighting them in Iraq so we don’t have to fight them here, right?
Posted by: Brock Sanders | June 19, 2007, 6:02 am 6:02 am
Be it Resolved:
This Meeting of FREEPERS is hereby adjourned!
Thank you
Posted by: Falco | June 19, 2007, 6:04 am 6:04 am
The level of ignorance and fear and outright jingoism contained in most of these posts is fairly typical for your typical American and fairly appalling. We’re a nation of morons and most of these posts prove it.
Posted by: WoodyCPM | June 19, 2007, 6:07 am 6:07 am
Posted by: xtrabiggg | Jun 19, 2007 12:34:21 AM
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xtrabigg, give it up. You’re trying to use facts, rational observation, relevant information and reason in this debate and it will never work with this crowd. You’re throwing your pearls before swine.
Posted by: WoodyCPM | June 19, 2007, 6:11 am 6:11 am
These suicide teams are criminals committing crimes on their own volition, plain and simple. No U.S. administration is responsible for their acts, just like police are not responsible for the crimes of the criminals they hunt down on a regular basis.
People who try to “apologize away” intentional acts of violence are idiots who often become defense attorneys… and in this case, are demonstrating that they are not patriotic towards the U.S. at all, despite their pompous declarations to the contrary.
Not a W lover – would rather have someone else in office – but just a non-apologist who thinks that individuals are responsible for their own actions and situations (“sticks and stone…”).
Posted by: MadManAboutTown | June 19, 2007, 6:11 am 6:11 am
To go around saying “America is innocent” is a joke. How many foreign governments has the US tried to help overthrow or destabilize over the past 50 years? Have Americans really researched their governments foreign policy? Or any other? France? Britain? Russia? Extremists are all over the world so of course attacks will occur. What a sad state. But to say “They attacked us, we didn’t do anything to them” is a farce.
Posted by: catseye | June 19, 2007, 6:13 am 6:13 am
hi all
i think u need to step back before the 11/9 events! Muslims r suffering all over the world from hundreds of years coz of west governments….
try to read history please and do not take ur information from Bush and Blair
West planted all ‘dictators’ insie the islamic countries and as u all seen when one of them ‘Saddam’ refused to obey them any more they killed him… and in the same time they gave silly excuses to persuade their people that he was a terrorist and as Liza said one day ‘Saddam got rockets so he can hit USA!!’… and surprisingly we discovered that he was hidden in a hole under the earth…and they tried to link him to Alqaeda and we disovered that Alqaeda call him ‘kafir’ or unbeliever!
Posted by: Adam | June 19, 2007, 6:21 am 6:21 am
So what’s the solution? Keep waging War?
Keep killing people? Keep occupying other peoples country? America is free they allow the terrorists into America? Yet other countries want to keep terrorists out too; don’t they? how is War the answer? The winner is who kills everyone on the other side? When do wars end? Never? Are we still fighting WWI and WWII? Am I a moron, or are you?
Is Jesus a Moron? or is Mohammad? I don’t think either believes in war. It is the State not Religion.
Who is America to tell a sovereign country what to do and to believe? Who did Iraq invade this last time? I thought we won that war? I thought it was MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? What does W stand for? War, or Wisdom? What does America worship? Jesus or the Gun, God or the Military?
Posted by: djermano | June 19, 2007, 6:21 am 6:21 am
I think it’s funny how some folks think we can try to convince these terrorists to love us if only we’d reach out our hands to them. LOL
These are the same looney people who love gay rights, porn, and everything these terrorists hate about us. Go ahead, reach out your hand to them thinking it was all the republican’s fault. LOL
They’ll rip your hand off because they hate YOU for everything your stupid political party stands for. Go ahead and make more cartoons poking fun at their religion and see how much they love your so-called “freedom of speech”.
Keep right on living in your dream world blaming all the world’s problems on bush.
Posted by: Fred | June 19, 2007, 6:32 am 6:32 am
Rick- You and your fellow blame-America-firsters are so blinded with hatred for President Bush that you actually think that radical Islamists are responding to him rather than continuing the war they started against us nearly 30 years ago. You probably think we deserved 9/11 too.
Posted by: Kenneth Falkenstein | June 19, 2007, 6:33 am 6:33 am
This comment from the Taliban commander reminded of the Republican debate when Ron Paul said they come after us because we are over there.
“These Americans, Canadians, British and Germans come here to Afghanistan from faraway places,” Dadullah says on the tape.
Shame on you Guiliani for trying to make political hay out of your one dog and pony issue – and you even got that wrong. Please read the 911 Commission Report – sure you can afford it after accepting contracts from the Saudi’s to the tune of 17 million.
Logic, Reason, Honesty
Posted by: Dan | June 19, 2007, 6:34 am 6:34 am
We were all told in the 1980′s that terrorism was coming to the U.S. Anyone who watched the nightly news in the 1980′s would have seen experts telling the American people this over and over. Did we change our immigration rules or border security? No. We can get our act together and seal the border and drive these savages from our land or we can die. Wake up people!
Posted by: Ames Tiedeman | June 19, 2007, 6:35 am 6:35 am
Jack Bauer will come to the rescue…..Chloe is already monitoring the teams from deep inside CTU.
Posted by: Steve | June 19, 2007, 6:40 am 6:40 am
Read “The End of Faith” by Sam Harris.
Posted by: CaribPirate | June 19, 2007, 6:41 am 6:41 am
Will S.1348 stop them or give them legal status?
Posted by: TopAssitant | June 19, 2007, 6:43 am 6:43 am
Get informed Yankees. Read Howard Zinns “Peoples History of the United States.” You may learn something real.
Posted by: Marty . | June 19, 2007, 6:45 am 6:45 am
We want to believe that these fundamentalists are rational people who would like us and would leave us alone if only they got to know us and saw we weren’t all like our political leadership. We are living in denial. They hate all non-Musilims. They look at us as if we were cattle that they could use, sell or kill. We have to face the facts about these people.
Posted by: S.Richard | June 19, 2007, 6:51 am 6:51 am
Yes this is Bush’s fault just look at his secret meeting with evil Cheney.. watch secret meeting and results
Posted by: jack carmona | June 19, 2007, 6:51 am 6:51 am
Rick are you on Crack, did the fruit of our Evil Cause 911, the USS Cole, the Prior World Trade center bombing, Etc, Etc, Etc. These people mean to kill us and have since at least the 1970′s where was Bush then? Pacifism did nothing prior to WW2 Soon a leader of a Country who’s goal is to cause the coming of the 12th imam will have a Nuclear weapon. Do you think he will use it to hasten the return? Shold we turn the other way and hope he changes?
Posted by: BB | June 19, 2007, 6:52 am 6:52 am
Hey PLP, right, there are no terrorists in Iraq. There never were. They were in EVERY other country in the world except Iraq. Jorples man, you are a genius.
Posted by: rowdyhatinwalt | June 19, 2007, 6:53 am 6:53 am
Yes, if studying history means studying Bill Clinton’s years in the White House, then do that. Or read the 911 Commission Report. These barbarians attacked long before “W,” as you call him, became president. It’s understandably difficult to look past this administration. But that context is necessary in order to, um, understand reality.
Posted by: Reinhold | June 19, 2007, 6:56 am 6:56 am
But wait– I thought we were “fighting ‘em in Iraq so we don’t have to fight ‘em here.” And “If we leave, they will follow us home.” You mean, they already know how to get here, and they are training and plotting somewhere else besides Iraq? Horrors. Yes, Homeland Security and our intelligence agencies have thwarted dozens of U.S. attacks since 9/11, all of them in the early stages of planning. But none of them originated in Iraq. And yes, the war in Iraq has only helped Al Queda and the Islamic terrorism movement. We never finished the job in Afghanistan, and are now helping to inspire a whole new generation of terrorists with the Iraq war. Iraq is not a big bug zapper drawing nasty evil-doers away from our U.S. picnic table. Bug zappers don’t work. And they certainly don’t create new bugs.
Posted by: Chris R. | June 19, 2007, 7:01 am 7:01 am
Awfully ignorant comments coming from the left. Perhaps we should have stayed out of Afghanistan and Iraq and just waited for the next 9/11 attack to occur, cry about it, try some UN sanctions, then wait for the next attack? Might I remind everyone that the attack on the World Trade Center was an attack on a civilian target (and don’t give me that ridiculous Michael Moore crap – it was disproven when that section of freeway collapsed due to a fire in California a couple months ago). Indeed, muslim extremists have repeatedly shown a willingness to kill westerners in the name of Islam.
Posted by: Alan | June 19, 2007, 7:02 am 7:02 am
To those who approach this on bended knee, John Stuart Mill said it best, “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
Posted by: Jarhead | June 19, 2007, 7:06 am 7:06 am
Well said Yuman, well said
Posted by: Don | June 19, 2007, 7:15 am 7:15 am
The stupidest man on the planet who is still alive is Jimmy Carter. He destroyed America’s immigration tradition and opened us up to untold nightmares yet to come. He put us in the postition we are now in.
Posted by: Josh | June 19, 2007, 7:20 am 7:20 am
I think that’s DNC retreat in Vegas.
Posted by: PAW | June 19, 2007, 7:20 am 7:20 am
Our U.S. Senate and President apparently have no intention of ever protecting our borders and enforcing our current immigration laws. Instead they use time writing new monstrous immigration laws that will not be enforced. What makes these Senators and President think this will work? What makes them think the illegal border crossers will have the money to pay the proposed fines? Seems like pure folly to me. This is a sign of a broken Government.
Posted by: Richard | June 19, 2007, 7:20 am 7:20 am
They don’t understand that the West will get angry and truly solve this problem; we’re just slow to do so as we know the real consequences all too well. But we’re moving toward it as we did toward slavery, national socialism and international socialism.
They don’t comprehend what they’re provoking. Anyone who shouts God is great while blowing up dogs has no place in the civilized world, and no moral authority, as the Left would grant them.
Posted by: sagl | June 19, 2007, 7:21 am 7:21 am
These Muslim Extreme Fanatics are born to fight. They live under the deception that killing someone will somehow give them eternal rewards. Unfortunately, believing this lie, they move forward and kill in the name of their god sacrificing themselves, playing Russian Roulette with Eternity and loosing! What awaits is everlasting torment. If you give them peace and offer them security, it is never enough and the killing continues. Can a leopard change its spots?
Posted by: Hooha | June 19, 2007, 7:21 am 7:21 am
You guys are concerned with terrorism because many people in US goverment wants you to be concerned and not see other important issues.
Like Kyoto protocol. If you won’t comply with emission reduction (stop buying goddamn SUVs) than you’ll destroy all terrorists including the rest of the world.
Posted by: stan | June 19, 2007, 7:21 am 7:21 am
Terrorism can likely best be beaten through intelligence and education. Isolation and caging us up within our own borders is neither of the above.
Posted by: John | June 19, 2007, 7:26 am 7:26 am
Looks like another Pentagon Production.
Posted by: tim osman | June 19, 2007, 7:26 am 7:26 am
The greater problem with Bush’s bunch is NOT that I disagree with them, it is their incompetence.
I admit that I was opposed to diverting the difficult task of going after the terrorists in Afghanistan to invade Iraq. It wasn’t about pacifism — like many such as Henry K. and others, invading Iraq was CLEARLY not in the national security interest of the United States.
BUT, it happened and I was willing to roll with it. But not only did the patient have an unneeded surgury, the tumor was taken out expertly but the sewing up was left to clowns and the patient bled to death on the table.
So when I say “Bush = Incompetent Jackass.” It is due to an interest in what is in the national security interest of the United States, not due to some pacifism or partisanship.
Posted by: Allen | June 19, 2007, 7:28 am 7:28 am
I’m glad the liberals under the Clinton regime did not succeed in their attempts to ban all guns. Its nice to live in a country where the citizens can fight back on their own terms. It is unfortunate for the citizens of Canada, Britian and Germany that they have to rely only on their governments for protection.
Posted by: Val Policelli | June 19, 2007, 7:31 am 7:31 am
The scariest part of this? The ‘journalists’ who act as administration stenographers and publish this garbage.
Go find some real news.
Posted by: Sal Manella | June 19, 2007, 7:31 am 7:31 am
Ask Jihn Edwards, this was just a bumper sticker by our President. Ask Harry Reid, we have lost already. Any other helpful suggestions by the Libs.
Posted by: Larry | June 19, 2007, 7:32 am 7:32 am
This takes me back some years when a socialogy professor said, “When technology becomes so great and affordable, the only thing we have left is boredom and killing each other in a faster more affordable fashion with choice of targets”.
Posted by: b jones | June 19, 2007, 7:32 am 7:32 am
The left blames our president? You are a bunch of spineless cowards, I wouldn’t want you on my chess team. You are the same people start losing and throw the board with all its pieces. The only thing the terrorist are winning is the media war because you losers believe them. Get your heads out of your fourth point of contact and take some pride in your country and yes your president. Cowards. My third tour starts in 08 proud to go and serve. You don’t support me you mock me, My band of brothers despise you on the left.
Posted by: CW2 Sean Carney | June 19, 2007, 7:40 am 7:40 am
I don’t know if you’re just brainwashed, or if your lack of rationale thought stems from a deep-rooted hatred of Bush. No he’s not the greatest President to have ever served. Yes, he’s made quite a few mistakes. BUT check your history in the last thirty years (what, how can this be, Bush wasn’t in office) the US, US Embassies, US Ships, and other US targets have been hit many times by Muslim extremists. What will it take to get through you thick skulls that they don’t just hate Bush, they hate ALL of us. They hate our way of life, and they hate Christianity. (Which it sees the US as) They don’t care if your actually Atheist, because guess what? They hate them too! You’re only safe if you’re another Muslim extremist. Even places that tried to declare Neutrality in this war have been bombed. Wake up and smell the sulfer, stop being an arm-chair expert, and actually take a look at the whole picture.
This using Bush as a constant scapegoat instead of seeing the truth is sickening.
Posted by: Tara | June 19, 2007, 7:40 am 7:40 am
al Qaeda=CIA
Posted by: Bernie | June 19, 2007, 7:41 am 7:41 am
There have been groups in the middle east that have wanted to destroy the west since the crusades. The only difference between now and then is that they have the means to get here and the technology to do some real damage. Congress passes a bill to build a wall on our southern border a year ago. Why isn’t it done? The Chinese magaged the largest wall in the history of our planet thousands of years ago, and we cant repeat the process in the 21st century. Where do you think these bombers will get into our country?
Posted by: Andy M. | June 19, 2007, 7:41 am 7:41 am
Mr. President Bush,
I know how to fix the problems we are facing when dealing with the Islamic extremists. Contact me at my email address given by myself to ABCNEWS (this blog).
ABCNEWS, I hereby give permission to release my email address to The President Of The USA or one of his direct subordinates.
thank you.
Posted by: Jeremy | June 19, 2007, 7:44 am 7:44 am
The continuing gross naivet`e of the “Bush hating” left would be laughable if it were not so darn scary. More dangerous to a nation of free peoples are those who blame their own and are not willing to defend it than are the enemies themselves. God help us!
Posted by: Scott W. | June 19, 2007, 7:44 am 7:44 am
and would they be coming across the southern border? (not that i believe anything anymore)
Posted by: janet | June 19, 2007, 7:46 am 7:46 am
And just think, if these suicide bombers delay just a little bit longer they can get amnesty crossing our open borders from the US goverment when they pass that treasonous immigration reform garbage.
Posted by: Christopher | June 19, 2007, 7:51 am 7:51 am
Can’t we all get along?
Of course not!
Wait a minute, did Bush say if we fight them there, we won’t have to fight them here?
Posted by: lyn | June 19, 2007, 7:52 am 7:52 am
These people blow themselves up and fight each other tooth and nail. If we would only wake up and talk to them we might be able to stop their hatred…….NOT.
Posted by: kondor26 | June 19, 2007, 7:53 am 7:53 am
So, let me see if I understand this correctly. They are following us home before we come home?
Al Qaeda, somehow, didn’t get Dick Cheney’s memo.
Posted by: Fearless | June 19, 2007, 7:54 am 7:54 am
We justify killing babies just like jihadists bomb innocent civilians. Government pays for and uses terrorist organizations to strip you, the population of your freedoms that were given by god, and giving the whole cow away for couple of magic beans.
Posted by: USSA | June 19, 2007, 7:55 am 7:55 am
So much for John Edwards bumper sticker..No such thing as a War on Terror”..
Posted by: Jeff | June 19, 2007, 7:55 am 7:55 am
A self loathing American is just as bad as a islamic terrorist. Wake up people! We have been getting attacked for over 25 years. They will hate us forever. If you blame any of this on the current president or his administration then you are very misinformed. Please read a book and forget about using CNN,MSNBC, or any of the anti-American newspapers that are published in this country as a reference.
Posted by: Jason | June 19, 2007, 7:58 am 7:58 am
From one American to another. We chose to be where we are.
Democracy,Captitalism, is who we are. It does work. That is why we are under attack. We should not feel ashamed as our enemies devilishly sway us into believing with their sabre rattling propaganda. Oh, by the way, their pros at the debate, the argument. They love nothing better than to win the argument and they most often do.
But,what strategy do we take? Plenty to debate over. Blog all day on the internet? Cool, at least awaking the general American public to take all this personally is a must. We must decide and stand behind our decision. Right or wrong. The Illegal Immigration is the first thing in 4 presidential elections that is worth paying a lot of attention to. It is scary ! Some of this fear is real, some isn’t. I believe the internet blog is doing what the media refuses to do. Or is this the next level of freedom of speech brought to us by the media?
Until the United States Of America truly unites, we’ll continue to run in circles which delights the enemies we face. Our Government, same thing. We might want to also sink some teeth into this miserable monster we call fear.
Countries who seek our demise are truly envious of our place. Why else is this going on. We Americans have worked hard for what we have, of course. Taking is and has always been the weapon of choice for govenments who can’t make it on their own. That is why they are here illegally.
There is the problem folks. What we do about it is up to us. Waking up to this as once said, “All these things that so freighten us are not death symptoms, but birth symptoms.”
America, get our government doing what we want. Then we will see the change we long for. Activate with one another.
Posted by: Gene | June 19, 2007, 7:59 am 7:59 am
Can’t we all get along?
Of course not!
Wait a minute, did Bush say if we fight them there, we won’t have to fight them here?
Posted by: lyn | June 19, 2007, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Wow, I didn’t know there were so many experts on the war. All you people that know how the war should be run and whose fault all this is need to join the military and put your money where your mouth is!
Posted by: Hojo | June 19, 2007, 8:02 am 8:02 am
Bring home all the troops from all 130 nations and all 735+ bases now
Posted by: mike | June 19, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am
It’s time to WAKE UP, WE ARE AT WAR!
Time for Bush to suck it up and take the leash off our brave Warriors. They know just what to do and how to do it if we will let them.
Hunt them down and kill them all, and yes, that means even if they choose to hide across the border in Pakistani.
Posted by: Ice | June 19, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am
Jack L.
You are Soooooo ignorant.
The “intel” that Congress was privy to was cherry-picked and manipulated. It was not objective, raw unfiltered intelligence. They were fed doomsday scenarios and the administration hyped what little they had. The problems the Dems in congress has was that they trusted Bush and co.
See “Downing Street Memos” for your edifictaion (i.e., facts were being FIXED around a pre-determined policy of regime change through invasion).
2) The Democrats weren’t being NICE when they voted unanimously in 2001 to bomb the crap out of the taliban who were harboring the actual enemy. So, you can stop re-writing history
3) If you think the wireless wiretapping program wasn’t abuse in the same Nixon abused and overstepped his authorities, you’re a trusting sheep
Posted by: UncleSam 69 | June 19, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am
Rick (and Brandon),
You are about as sharp as a marble. Certain Muslim terrorists are willing to blow themselves up and kill countless innocent people, and you want to blame the President? If you’re looking to assign blame, look no further than the murderers.
Your stupidity astounds me.
Posted by: Patrick | June 19, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am
First and foremost we need to secure our borders… why we haven’t done so is beyond me. I know we have some efforts going on to do this, but not fast enough in my opinion.
Second we need to continue to be on the offense against this great evil (the terrorist). We cannot let them have safe harbors anywhere… we need to put pressure on them and continue to push them out of their little safe areas.
I agree that money does usually play a big factor in how and when we go to battle… which I’m not sure will ever totally go away… the key is to elect people who are able to see the bigger picture. I will argue that the kind of person we want leading our country will be someone of strong faith…someone who believes in securing our borders and putting pressure on the terrorist. NOT just because it financially is the better option, but because it is the RIGHT and JUST thing to do. God bless America.
Posted by: Matt | June 19, 2007, 8:06 am 8:06 am
I don’t really fear Mexicans or other foreign nationals. I do resent them entering the country illegally. Recent DOJ stats indicate that aliens, both legal and illegal, have a crime rate that is 500% greater than that of U.S. Citizens. Please note that the crimes listed do not include illegal entry, a misdeamenor. Accordingly they occupy 28% of Federal prison beds.
I am concerned that the borders are not secure. As stated previously, if an uneducated peon from Mexico or Central America can simply walk into the country, what is there to stop a dedicated terrorist?
Posted by: Van | June 19, 2007, 8:08 am 8:08 am
They think that by appeasing the enemy he might cut us some slack. This is not the Clinton Days. By the way if he had taken terrorism seriously we would not be in the predicament today. ie Kobart Towers, 2 embassies attacked, USS Cole attacked, Ferst World Trade Center attack, Somalia(RUN BABY RUN),and we are still in BOSNIA(QUOTE WE WILL BE HOME BY XMAS, STILL THERE). He even pardoned a extreme terrorist group from the islands. But finally we get a Pres that will fight and what do DEMS do, back the terrorist.
Posted by: Charles Murdock | June 19, 2007, 8:11 am 8:11 am
I am American Muslim. My heart cries when I see terrorists use my religion to justify murder and some of my fellow Americans end up writing extreme comments. I wish American government has well thought out strategy and effective domestic and rational foreign policy to deal with the problem such that I can have MY REAL AMERICA BACK.
Dear fellow Americans, my message to you is simple – people like me are simply caught in cross fire b/w terrorist and Bush.
I don’t blame you for your anger !
Posted by: Imran Salim | June 19, 2007, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Whenever I wonder who could see the results of this administration’s ineptness combined with greed and an agenda that has nothing to do with the well-being of this country and its citizens, and still support these bumbling murderers, I read some of the comments posted here and I realize that ideologues will always put party above country.
Yes, fundamental islamic fanatics hated us long before 9/11 and will continue to hate us as long as we and they exist. However, before this disastrous administration, we had allies who would supply us with support and intelligence, the terrorists had fewer training grounds, we had a strong military to provide defense and we had not handed the nutbags such wonderful recruiting tools. Bush and his cronies are the greatest gift to fundamental islamic terrrorists since the Quran. I can only hope that it is not too late for President Clinton to heal some of the damage that has been done, mend some fences and restore our defensive strength when she takes office in 2009. God Bless America, American now needs all the help it can get.
Posted by: Ri | June 19, 2007, 8:16 am 8:16 am
Whatever happened to ‘let’s fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.’ So much for that brilliant theory. While there have always been terrorist attacks abroad, pre-9/11 all we had to worry about were ‘patriots’ like tim mcveigh and the freaks who bombed abortion clinics. Our little venture into Iraq has done nothing but fan the flames of American hatred.
Posted by: nick | June 19, 2007, 8:20 am 8:20 am
It is nice to see that most posters understand the terrorist were coming long before President Bush took office (1993 World Trade Center; Clinton? Remember? Plus the 37 seperate terrorists attack during his presidency against American interest all ignored; although he didn’t ignore Monica…). And these posters are posting on ABC site; a member of “The Drive-By Media”… There is still hope for America. Now, if we can unite behind the military to encourage them to kill these terrorists before they come here to kill us.
Lance
Posted by: Lance Manly | June 19, 2007, 8:20 am 8:20 am
For those blaming U.S foreign policy on the possibility of suicide bombers coming to the US and Europe, you are as dim witted as you sound. Do you honestly think they would not have done this if we were not at war? How would you explain the bombing of our embassies in Africa, the first and second bombings of the World Trade Center, and other aggressive tactics used by terrorists that were met with a limp response from the US. Do you really think these murderers would live in peace with us if we “pulled out” of Iraq? HOW NAIVE ARE YOU? This is war, ladies and gentlemen. Get used to it. If we do not stamp it out now, we will suffer horrible consequences years down the line. Thank God President Bush has the guts to stand up to those who would sooner cut you and your family’s heads off all in the name of God.
Posted by: Jerry | June 19, 2007, 8:23 am 8:23 am
If Bush had stayed focused on Afghanistan, we would not be in this mess and this War on Terror may have ended years ago.
Posted by: David Hamilton | June 19, 2007, 8:23 am 8:23 am
Muslim terrorists are still coming after us in this country. Can someone explain how victimizing 3rd parties, i.e. Mexicans, Sadam Hussein, homosexuals, makes us more “secure”. And what is it making “secure”? Our right to become soilent green for our nation’s large corporations?
Posted by: elcid66 | June 19, 2007, 8:23 am 8:23 am
The chickens are coming home to roost.
Posted by: Malcolm | June 19, 2007, 8:23 am 8:23 am
What bothers me is that a reporter would rather just film this, thinking about how great a story it will be, rather than telling someone about… I don’t know, 300 terrorist who are going to try to kill innocent people. Reporters have taken the, “I’m not going to choose sides for the integrity of the story”, a little to far. THEY ARE USING YOU STUPID!!!! and given the chance will kill you and your family without losing a wink of sleep.
Posted by: Jesse | June 19, 2007, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Do you really believe this story? This is the corporate media playing agent
provocateur. You need something to fear to feel good about losing your civil liberties!
Posted by: Mark | June 19, 2007, 8:27 am 8:27 am
The people on here who blame this on our leadership are the real problem. They don’t care who our President is, they are still going to come over here and kill us, they’ve done it before! They laugh at our media and our “peace activists” for taking their side. They think we’re soft and easy to defeat. Are they right? Not from my prospetive. I’m thankful my husband is working hard in our intelligence community to keep idiots like you safe. Without people like and and the proactive people in our government our country could be in MUCH worse shape. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! You are acting like fools and THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU!!!!!! Why do you think they hate Bush so much? He’s actually fighting them, thank God!
Posted by: Sara | June 19, 2007, 8:27 am 8:27 am
You can argue about why they hate us, but how come they love to kill each other? What did we have to do with that? Maybe they are just uncivilized, ignorant, bitter people who practice a religion of hatred and violence?
Posted by: wayne | June 19, 2007, 8:27 am 8:27 am
*Why Bush has failed all of mankind!!!*
George W Bush was given a gift that no other human in the history of mankind had never had. After 9/11, he had nearly 100% of the Nations of the World supporting him. No other world leader in the history of man kind ever had people so freely supporting him. He had the chance to make Terrorism a despicable act in the eyes of world opinion. He could have made this world safer and brought all nationalities together in a world of peace.
But he blew it. And big time. He blinked and instead of being a world leader, he chose to push the interests of his small group of supporters. As he said it, “To spend his political capital.”
Now his close knit supports attack his critics. And why? They are so small minded to not realize the Historical and World Implication’s of the failings of this man????
They trash his critics as Unpatriotic, as Liberal Bush Haters… as as… You know the catch words and there are so many.
But in reality this is so untrue.
Again, when we invaded Afghanistan and the world supported us…. Nearly 100%……. There were no Bush hating liberals. We all backed GW!!! We were not only a united country, we were a united world against terrorism.
Afghanistan could have been the deciding factor in eliminating Terrorism. The world hated it. But GW blinked and started acting like the terrorist that he’s says he’s against and invaded Iraq.
Where is our Moral high ground now???? GW screwed it up.
Now May God give us another opportunity like what GW had and also give us a man who has the stature and vision to use it to turn this world around for the betterment of all of mankind.
It’s unfortunate to say, but the original 3000 who died to create the first opportunity may have died in vain.
As for now, we can only pray that we and this world survives the
incompetency of GW.
Posted by: roy | June 19, 2007, 8:28 am 8:28 am
It is interesting how ABC sorts the posts; oldest to newest that way they can start with the two idiots that blame the evil homicide bombers on President Bush. But, what do you expect from “The Drive-By Media”? The alphabet news channels (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN…etc) are actually rooting against our soldiers along with their terrorist’s biggest supporters; Democrat Senators and Representatives. Am I questioning their patriotism? No, it is obvious they are not patriots no question about it!
Lance
Posted by: Lance Manly | June 19, 2007, 8:28 am 8:28 am
here it comes. I hope we don’t have an American Beslan tragedy. These people need to be stopped
Posted by: Joe | June 19, 2007, 8:28 am 8:28 am
I would like to thank ABC news for their efforts in helping our military and the Pakistani government to taget and destroy this terrorist camp… Oh wait a minute…. That didn’t happen. If only American news agencies had an ounce of patriotism, this war could be over by now.
Posted by: Scott | June 19, 2007, 8:28 am 8:28 am
In a world where it’s getting easier and easier to get from place to place and cause problems, America needs to do what it should have done years ago.
Zero illegal immigrants, No visa from terrorist nations, DEPORT those who have criminal pasts, and seal off the Borders. Remove foreign Aid from those countries and if that does not work. We need to remove the press from our military and do the job correctly.
This is only the beginning, Cyber Warfare, Chemical Warfare is all becoming easy for these roughe units to get as we have moved on to bigger and badder weapons, problem is Nuclear waste and terrorist nations are now getting ahold of those older weapons and will use them. They want to die anyway, so why not take people with them and be a hero?
You can not fight with a human rights mind and win any war against these groups. Men, Women, and Children are willing to kill themselves, in America thats unheard of and unthinkable, but to them its everyday..
Maybe the world needs an example again. I hate to say it but something big might need to happen to get everyone including us in line again..
Posted by: Glenn | June 19, 2007, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Democrat leadership tells us that we must leave this war on terror. We kill terroirsts every day in Iraq, but allthe media will tell us is we have our guys die. The demorats will have us “Quit” the war, quit a war where the enemy is now on the Offensive. When are we going to wake up in this country, in England, in France, in Canada and realize that just like on D-day 1944 we have to get together, use all our resources, brains, and prayes, to defeat the enemy. Then on top of it, they want to send suicide bombers here now? Iread comments on here saying nice job W? Where is the lets kick their butts! Good Lord people when do you stand up and fight? These jerks “terrorists” are at war with us and we are just worried about republican vs. democrats and whose fault it is. For goodness sakes we are American’s and we need to defeat this enemy. Lets kick there butts. Lets send hell and fire on there areas of the world, we now know they want to do it with us. We can not sit down and talk to these clowns, you can not negotiate with these clowns. I hate war, but enough is enough. Lets kick ktheir butts. It is time to stop fighting a PC war and destroy this enemy.
Posted by: Jeff | June 19, 2007, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Don’t take this too seriously. It is just for show and intended to get people worried. There are no suicide bombers coming to the USA.
Posted by: Hank | June 19, 2007, 8:30 am 8:30 am
It is amazing, how everyone gets blamed for the evil actions of suicide bombers, except of course the bombers themselves and their handlers.
Posted by: Tony | June 19, 2007, 8:31 am 8:31 am
I can’t believe there are people still here supporting Bush. I think you people get more and more stupid by the day.
Posted by: dumb | June 19, 2007, 8:33 am 8:33 am
After reading a goodly number of these posts, I find myself once again frustrated by the polarization of this discourse, as I am with the polarization of the entire political environment of this country. Get a grip, and read some history!
First, this problem is a product of almost a century of missteps and 2-faced dealings with the Muslim world, both by the US and Western Europe.
Second, we are fighting a monster of our own making. We created Bin Laden when we supported his fight against the Russians in the 80′s. We allowed the seeds of discord to grow through out the region by our willingness to look the other way when it came to Israel, while at the same time condemning similar actions by other governments and leaders within the region. Iraq wasn’t the only country in the Middle East that was suspected of having WMD’s AND had ignored UN Security Council resolutions.
Third, the current administration has only made the situation worse. Had they actually concentrated on completing the job in Afghanistan, rather than creating a terrorist training ground in Iraq, we would be far better off than we are today.
Lastly, there is no arguing that regardless of the reasons, these people are out to cause mayhem and death. This nation must first take steps to protect its borders, and then find some way to address the poverty and hopelessness of the populations from which these radicals are recruited. When there is no hope of a better future, people turn to religion. In those environments, it is easy to twist and subvert the message to one of violence. It won’t change tomorrow, but a different and more enlightened policy, that understands both the sources of radicalism, and the differences in societal values, is the only way to defeat this problem over the long term
Posted by: Doug | June 19, 2007, 8:35 am 8:35 am
I love it when people say “Bomb’em back to the stone age”. Seems like I remember some leader taking a blanket approach to an attack…something like he gassed his own people after an attempt on his life. Who was that, and what happened to him?
Posted by: Jason | June 19, 2007, 8:35 am 8:35 am
Most of you people quoting 9/11 probably were nowhere NEAR New York or Washington. Coming from a New Yorker, I say quit using that tragedy to further your right-wing crazy ideals. Go back to your safe farm or church and pray for us, because we’re all sick of hearing your inconsequential rhetoric, because you’re nowhere near where they are going to blow themselves up.
Posted by: tom | June 19, 2007, 8:35 am 8:35 am
I find a couple of the ideas put forth by folks like Yuman and others like him to be a little puzzling.
Wasn’t it during the Clinton administrations that the American military and intelligence agencies saw drastic cuts, some up to 70-80 % of their budgets ? Base closings and troop reductions were the rule of the day. Evidence shows that Clinton and Co. (esp. nice work by Ms. Gorelik and Mr. Clarke) ignored the intelligence they received on Bin Laden, and let him go, not once, but several times, and after we were attacked, our military was nowhere near the strength it should have been.
So, before you start spouting your Michael-Moore generated conspiracy theories, how ’bout learning a little twentieth-century history.
Posted by: Tim | June 19, 2007, 8:36 am 8:36 am
Please seal the Canadian and Mexican borders, NOW!
Posted by: J | June 19, 2007, 8:37 am 8:37 am
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen this many ignorant ppl gathered in one place.
America is doomed.
Posted by: wwz | June 19, 2007, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Maybe if Bill Clinton would of taken out Bid Laden instead of playing a big fat porn star in the Oval office our new village idiot wouldnt have to worry about this. Like I said all the presidents have been horrible ever since JFK was in office.
Posted by: Robert | June 19, 2007, 8:38 am 8:38 am
Better to surrender so the Islamofascists won’t be mean to us anymore. We should have surrendered to Hitler, too, and the world would have been a better place.
Posted by: George | June 19, 2007, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Bravo JACK LISENKO someone with brains! You forgot the democrats other best friend is Iran’s President and Hugo Chavez :)
Posted by: Matt | June 19, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am
I though a suicide attack happened in 9-11, am I wrong?
Posted by: Javier | June 19, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am
I don’t need a fence, or to be afraid. Let another bomb go off in our country and you will see who needs to be afraid.
Posted by: Josh | June 19, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am
If Kerry were president, Gore vice-president and Michael Moore ambassador to the UN they’d still be coming to kill us. It’s their religions command.
Wake up fellow Americans. Fight or die. It’s that simple.
Posted by: Jon | June 19, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Am I missing something? Why can’t all the borders be closed and all international flights grounded? Life is not the same as we once knew it. Stop allowing these idiots into our country. Only then, true to form, they will carry out their hatred once again on each other.
Posted by: Yankee Doodle | June 19, 2007, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Posted by: Yuman | Jun 19, 2007 1:03:50 AM
“The noblest of wars benefit few and hurt many.”
Yuman are you kidding me? I dont have the time to address all the craziness found in these hate-America and Howard Zinn-like apologists, but in reference to your naive and narrowminded statement about the uselessness of war, I ask one question:
How many more would have died if you would have been the one at the controls back in the 40′s?? Wake up! Evil lives, and sometimes peace is only attained through force.
It’s scary out here.
Posted by: Joe T | June 19, 2007, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Terrorist have always been coming. Terrorism has been with us as long as there have been relatively free societies. Terrorism is not an issue in oppressive regime, but it is the price we pay for an open and free society.
A terrorist started WWI. President McKinley was assassinated by a terrorist. They called them anarchist back then, but it’s still the same thing whether they represent some extreme cause or just a lone nut like at Virginia Tech.
Freedom is not free. “Find the cost of freedom buried in the ground,” Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young.
Posted by: scout29c | June 19, 2007, 8:43 am 8:43 am
What is a Muslim suicide bomber? Not sure, but I do know what Paris Hilton had for lunch today in the county jail…I mean that is much more important than these insignificant terrorists right?
“FREE PARIS”
Posted by: SD | June 19, 2007, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Everyone knows Iran is responsible for a large portion of terrorism in the middle east. Did anyone ever look a a map? Iraq is right in the middle of Iran and Afghanistan. Iraq was (is) a terrorist training ground and general menace to the area. So was Afghanistan. Iraq is a very strategic position for the U.S. in the war on terror.
Posted by: Rachel | June 19, 2007, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Despite all the ragging here, it’s universally seen (US intelligence reports, etc.) that Bush’s disastrous misadventure in Iraq has spurred the development of more terrorists than would have been the case if we stuck to Afghanistan.
Whatever the situation was before, he’s definitely fanned the flames and drastically disturbed the mid-east, perhaps beyond “saving.”
Wake up out there, folks! How any blind idiots can still support Bush is totally beyond belief.
Posted by: Taildrag | June 19, 2007, 8:49 am 8:49 am
President Bush’s only failing with Iraq was succumbing to liberal pressure. We need to fight hard & dirty and fight at their level. No nicey-nice.
Thank the President for Gitmo and the “secret prisons” and fighting for our survival. Don’t thank the liberal media for portraying the US as the enemy.
Posted by: kevin | June 19, 2007, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Our borders are wide open for this sort of thing to happen. We can build the Hoover dam, the Golden Gate, highways that stretch for thousands of miles but our Govt. cannot build a fence. A merger with Mexico and Canada is on the way and Muslim terrorists are only the tip of the iceburg. Mexican drug gangs and other criminals will have free access to our country as well.
Posted by: R.R. | June 19, 2007, 8:53 am 8:53 am
So there have been extremists for ages, granted. But, Bush is like an ignorant kid swatting at a hornets’ nest for fun. Why give them a reason to hate us even more when we are only stirring up trouble and making messes?
Posted by: tish | June 19, 2007, 8:53 am 8:53 am
yes
Posted by: Doctor Donut | June 19, 2007, 8:53 am 8:53 am
If nuclear bombs are set off by Muslim terrorists in US cities, Hillary says she would “relaliate”. But retaliate against whom? The hate and money funding this terrorism comefrom Saudi Arabia. Dry up their money and they can’t afford to come here, and have no money for weapons. Someone had better get a plan ready.
Posted by: Danny | June 19, 2007, 8:55 am 8:55 am
I’d like to see more in depth reporting about this, please.
Posted by: Ali | June 19, 2007, 8:55 am 8:55 am
Peace through unambiguous and total victory.
Turn the war over to the Generals and unleash the reigns of restrictive rules of engagement.
Posted by: JT | June 19, 2007, 8:56 am 8:56 am
USS Cole Oct 12, 2000
Khobar Towers June 25, 1996
US Marine Barracks 1983
World Trade Center (1st Try) Feb 1993
Radical Muslim Terrorists have been around for centuries and will continue to attack. Jihad is an old concept, nothing President Bush caused.
Posted by: gary | June 19, 2007, 8:56 am 8:56 am
I say… we take our troops out
Posted by: Ga'tor | June 19, 2007, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Is everyone crazy? Its bush’s fault? What about 9/11 what country were we at war with then? The USS Cole what about then? The 2 embassy’s? They attacked us for no reason and will keep doing this. It funny how fast people forget 3000 died. Israel gives in and the people of Palestine get what they want. There own land, what do they do? Keep attacking and want Israel wiped off the map. Yes we all should be handling this peaceful it will really work, it has so far. Tell that to the families of the people that died on 9/11.
Posted by: Mark | June 19, 2007, 9:00 am 9:00 am
this article was funny! they let a journalist IN to “graduation” to take pictures of suicide bombers? HAHA!
Posted by: carl | June 19, 2007, 9:01 am 9:01 am
whomever said this………
Frankly, the average American could careless. A nuke could go off in DC and people would be more interested in what Parris Hilton is doing in jail. The world is at war and for most folks their attitude is, “So what… not interested.” It is a sorry state of affairs but true.
SORRY BUT YOU’RE REACHIN BUDDY……..WEAK ARGUMENT……WEAK
Posted by: Deesee | June 19, 2007, 9:02 am 9:02 am
We should not relent, we should not forget and we shall overcome these barbarians and perserve our way of living for centuries to come. I believe that we should continue to fight and fight until we can contain the radical islam.
Posted by: William | June 19, 2007, 9:03 am 9:03 am
To Rachel,
Shameless plug, but the book sounds interesting.
To Mad JayHawk,
How true, how true. I voted for the man twice, supported him through the invasion, but the guy has totally lost me on the immigration issue. His brother had better find a new career, out of politics, because I’ll NEVER vote for another Bush.
Posted by: AH Thats Right | June 19, 2007, 9:04 am 9:04 am
How would ghandi or Jesus handle the radicals in our lives in the 21st century?
Posted by: William | June 19, 2007, 9:04 am 9:04 am
and boom goes the dynamite!
Posted by: postaltaco | June 19, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am
The same old B.S. Those terrorists are organizations of the US, England, Israel and the European countries, who are they kidding to?
Mr. Bush and his gang of criminals still think people of the world are ignorants. They are just in panic and do not know what to do anymore. And you americans and europeans open your eyes, you are sleeping with the enemy.!!!
Posted by: Sunshine | June 19, 2007, 9:07 am 9:07 am
I am so tired of hearing how “they” hate us for our freedoms. Lets get a grip. That is not why they hate us.
Posted by: Brian | June 19, 2007, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Does anyone remember the takeover of the Iranian embassy? This has been set into motion longer than you may think.Thanks to the great appeaser Jimmy Carter ,we can look forward to a few more decades of terrorist attacks. If you think that replacing W with another cowardly lib will end this, try reading some history..
Posted by: nativguy | June 19, 2007, 9:11 am 9:11 am
firstly, you guys elected bush as ur president.
Secondly, you elected him for 2 terms
Realize what bush did is also americas’s fault not only your leaders fault. Elect him for 2 terms. In his first term 9/11 occured. In his first term he retaliated. (sounds the playground when you were 2 years old, ‘my dad can beat up your dad. (HAHA) and near the end of his 2nd term, hes still trying to show that he can fix this issue. This issue has been going on since his pops was in the office, and it doesnt look like its going away.
Posted by: Andrew | June 19, 2007, 9:11 am 9:11 am
What would that accomplish besides killing hundreds of thousands of people, including children? The amount of fear and hatred and a seeming DESIRE for more death and destruction is appalling. I feel sorry for you all and your wasted lives, lived in fear and conformity…and I HOPE that progressives, both in America and the Middle East, can get their act together enough to have some influence on the political life of their countries. Religious conformity, xenophobia, advocating violence, a persecution complex…all hallmarks of the Islamic Facists AND American Fascists, such as yourselves.
Posted by: Andy | June 19, 2007, 9:13 am 9:13 am
Those people who blame the recruiting of terrorist on Bush are complete idiots. You are really showing your true ignorance and how incredibly uneducated you are. Terrorists have been attacking long before Bush became president. I guess we can blame the embassy seige in 1979 in Iran on Bush too! Or even the WTC attack in 1993 on Bush as well. Maybe the terrorists were ticked off that Bush was the owner of Texas Rangers! You liberal bloggers are really a colossal jewel of ignorance!
Posted by: jason | June 19, 2007, 9:14 am 9:14 am
All we have to do us convert and give up our country to them and then they will not hurt us. Well except for our women who will be forced to cover themselves, walk behind us men and basically give up their rights. Nancy Polosi, Hillary Clinton where are you?
Posted by: Steven | June 19, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am
I logged in to post exactly the statement by K Ols: They hate us for our foreign policy. I read through some of the posts on this board. Some of the comments posted here are as creepy and frightening as any quote I’ve ever read by a terrorist. Something happening here…
Posted by: Zarama | June 19, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am
The best posts here are from the imbeciles who blame Bush,America,Republicans and anything along those lines.
They truly represent “Stupid Americans”
Posted by: Mike H | June 19, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am
For the most part, the comments on here are clearly delusional. First, American efforts to reinstall the Shah in Iran is what tripped off radical Islamic fundamentalism. Had we not done that, there would have been no hostage crisis, no Ayatolah takeover and probably no shooting down of the Iranian passenger plane or the Lockerbie plane. Attempting to reinstall the Shah got us to where we are.
Second, middle east hatred of America is nothing new. But for some reason they’ve never tried attacking us here. Since Bush stole office though, there have been plans as well as actions to destabilize the middle east. It is understandable that they wouldn’t like that.
Third, it is not about the religion. Sure they flock around the religion but that’s exactly what we do here. Remember that God told Bush to invade Iraq. Therefore, Bush literally started a jihad. Nobody told him to include religion in his war. That was of his own doing and that is what helped raise the ire of the middle east religions.
We can’t just poke around in the affairs of other countries and expect there to be no effects that come of it. We are just now really starting to see those effects.
Posted by: TheGreenOne | June 19, 2007, 9:22 am 9:22 am
I don’t understand you Red-State venom-spewers at all… No one with any amount of intelligence, Right or Left is claiming that the Iraq war made fanatics like this hate us more or less. No.
What Lefties like me are saying is that the Iraq war has created an environment in which it is much easier for these guys to train unseen. According to our own NIE there are a hell of a lot more of them now, AND they have been able to practice and get increasingly better at fighting,sniping and bomb-building.
Additionally, in putting all of our money, materiel, and troops in Iraq we have weakened our own defenses and ability to respond to conflict and crisis within our own borders. That’s why, everytime there’s a hurricane, tornado, or flood these days, the first thing the mayor says is, “well, we don’t have our national guard here, so that makes it difficult… Oh, and all of their equipment is in Iraq anyway.”
Not only can we point to the rising number of terrorist, our falling level of competence in national secruity situations, AND the fact that the choice never was between fighting them here or there (we have to do both now, obviously)— but our military leaders have come out to tell us that we have spent all of this strategic advantage for what? 40% control of an Iraqi city. And now we’re also fighting in other regions of the country again. They can still strike us anywhere— at will.
So what facts do you guys have?
Posted by: Crunchy | June 19, 2007, 9:24 am 9:24 am
we need to have an open and honest dialogue among people and try to listen to others peoblems and figure out how we can help and not to pour oil over the fire .we have to learn how to live with dignity and respect the others no matter what is their folour ,race or religion .we need to respect the others and treat the others in a respectful highly ways .Violence will lead only to more war and hatred and disaster.
Posted by: susan | June 19, 2007, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Great job GWB for creating hundreds of thousands of terrorists around the world. What and IDIOT.
Posted by: Jim McC | June 19, 2007, 9:25 am 9:25 am
all the $ spent on iraq,afghan,ext,we could have housed, fed,and perhaps given free university to every single person on this planet,but nope lets kill each other instead,.
Posted by: michael murphy | June 19, 2007, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Too bad the American people do not embrace the fact we in embroiled in a war of cultures. The war started 25 years ago. The bad guys are on the offense while we play defense.
Posted by: dan | June 19, 2007, 9:26 am 9:26 am
They may hate us, but they’re using similar tactics w/ similar results.
The Middle East is a hot bed of hatred and intolerance. Freedom? Only to those rich/powerful enough to buy off the gov’t of whatever country they may be living in. Muslim Extremists are filled with hate for everything that isn’t EXACTLY them. Sunnis attack Shiites attack Al-Qaida attack Iranians attack the Taliban attack Hamas attack Fatah, etc. It’s one big knot of hatred and intolerance w/ one common enemy: Freedom.
Posted by: Selenium_Sulfide | June 19, 2007, 9:26 am 9:26 am
9/11 was our wake-up call. Unfortunately the liberals hit the snooze button.
Posted by: Bill | June 19, 2007, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Bush wasn’t president during the Olympic massacre, Iran’s hostage
taking, the disabled American shot and thrown into the sea, The embassy bombings, the USS Cole attack, the first attack on the World Trade Center, and on and on and on… We all should recognize that this has been festering for decades.
Posted by: D. Leary | June 19, 2007, 9:29 am 9:29 am
If they start suicide bombings in this country, I would suggest everyone start carrying a weapon OPENLY, as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.
Posted by: Jimmy | June 19, 2007, 9:30 am 9:30 am
You people that are blaming the president and the US for causing any or all retaliation by psycho (terrorists) are completly out of touch with reality and do not understand the gravity of this situation. It is a world wide situation.
The terrorists have gotten to you. Appeasing them doesn’t work. Won’t work. Will never work.
Now more than ever we need to stand up to them. We have to stay more vigilant and involved in a way that our troops, our president, and our country can be proud.
Giving in is giving to much.
Posted by: jcwadeii | June 19, 2007, 9:35 am 9:35 am
We have more important things to worry about than Islamic terrorists coming over here..open borders, china putting in an auto plant in Mexico to kill more US jobs, adding THOUSANDS under amnesty to flood our country with non-English speaking people, failure to enforce laws, and the GREED of the oil industry and corporations putting millions into poverty. All part of the long range plan toward the ONE WORLD ORDER via the EU treaty being signed by 26 European countries this Friday, and the NORTH AMERICAN UNION which US/Mexico/Camada are doing under the PPA treaty(Google). Next step will be to align the two treaties under one.
MAYBE THE WAR SERVES A PURPOSE AFTER ALL! Ever hear of diversion tactics?
Fear is a powerful tool. After all, religion uses “fear of hell” to control its followers, doesn’t it? Saying we must “fight them there so we don’t fight them here” allows the IFT’s to win for they have caused us to “be afraid.” So, the quote, “There is nothing to fear but fear itself” should allow us to avoid being “afraid” and go on living our lives. We have already allowed too many of our freedoms to be eroded under the disguises of SECURITY.
Posted by: Bubhead | June 19, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am
If it’s not Bush’s fault, whose is it? He has these people on the verge of extinction in Tora Bora, and let them go. And he’s had SIX YEARS since then to bottle them up. Instead, they’re stronger than ever. Bush has done far more to promote al Qaeda than bin Laden ever did.
Posted by: LongTom | June 19, 2007, 9:38 am 9:38 am
The point is that this recent “scare” is all about the Bush-tainted members of the CIA trying to regain control of the political debate.
This is a criminal and illegal government that needs to be stopped. It is rotten from the bottom, up.
Posted by: Richard Volaar | June 19, 2007, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Way to go W. You’re letting them in the back door
Posted by: Heather | June 19, 2007, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Hey, what’s up?
Posted by: W | June 19, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Boo! Stay scared so we can take away even more of your constitution rights! And maybe if all you’re doing is worrying about terrorists you’ll forget about how everything else is going to hell in this country…..
Posted by: Jeff | June 19, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Can any say fear mongering?
Posted by: D | June 19, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am
A great plan, have suicide bomber press conference? are they just gonna fly over here on the airlines? then where are they gonna get the bombs? from home grown jihadists of course. try again no one is scared.
Posted by: bilthy | June 19, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am
It’s been told to me:
If you don’t stand in something
You’ll fall for anything
Posted by: Regina | June 19, 2007, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Thank God I have the right to keep and bear arms, my birthright, many of you do too. Ladies and Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves, buy large caliber and repeating weaponry, they kind that your elected representatives are trying to take from you.
Posted by: Dave Edwards | June 19, 2007, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Do you people really believe this story. This is complete bollocks, what we are being fed is a theatrical operation staged
Posted by: Tomas | June 19, 2007, 9:58 am 9:58 am
There is a fundemental difference between having an abstract antipathy to a country versus having a real reason to go after that country. For instance, I may dislike Sweden abstractly, but if Sweden dropped a cluster bomb on my cousin, I’m going after Sweden. We have sown dragon’s teeth …. We’ll be vulnerable walking around the mall while the people who started this are in country clubs for the rest of their comfortable lives with security which we’re paying for.
Posted by: Diogenes | June 19, 2007, 9:59 am 9:59 am
I beg you pardon. Those who need an education can put that shoe on themselves.
If those of you who think that all Muslim’s hate America would read about what OBL wants and look at what the US has done in the Middle East you might come to the conclusion that OBL is somewhat justified in his attitude toward America and the West. It is pretty clear Bush2 and his gang and their Big Oil backers want control of the oil in Iraq and there will be US military presence in Iraq from years to come if they get their way.
OBL said he wanted the West out of Muslim countries in the Middle East. Not a hard idea to grasp or to understand; that most people do not want strangers camping in their backyards, especially with guns and ammunition. What is the guy going to do when he is up against it? He will attack what is vulnerable.
Posted by: pete | June 19, 2007, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Not one person in the neocon group had ever served in th military. They went to war just
like it was the first time, which it was. Too bad
they still don’t know what it’s like.
Posted by: TW | June 19, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Has it ever dawned on any of you that getting the illegals in America here legally will make it a lot easier to find terrorists that are here? Bush isn’t stupid. He just knows more than we do about what is really going on. Just wait and see how things change when it won’t be safe to go to Wal mart or get on a bus like it is in Israel. Some morning we are going to wake up to the same headlines Israel has.
Posted by: jane | June 19, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Hey Tedemalet,
Recent study shows that Hamilton had an illegal hair trigger installed on his pistol and discharged early. So not nobleness, just bad luck.
Posted by: Diogenes | June 19, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Of course extremists were around before Bush, that’s not the issue. The point is that Bush has only served to make the situation worse since 9/11. Practically the entire world was in support of us after 9/11, and look at our standing in the world now.
To the genius who supports bombing our enemies to the the stone age, please crawl back into your cave before people start thinking genocide is a good idea.
Posted by: Patriot | June 19, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am
The truth is we are not going to be able to come close to mustering the kind of global cooperation needed to address this UNTIL Bush is gone. Any solution is in lame duck status right now.
Considering that the problem is with the resurgent Taliban in Afganistan, its nice to know our silly detour into Iraq was time well spent.
Posted by: Northerer | June 19, 2007, 10:07 am 10:07 am
There is a theme in all of these messages that says “they” (the Muslims) “ hate us because of our freedoms..” How stupid must you be to just simplify the current state of affairs to a “fox news one liner” and ignore decades of misguided, myopic, oil industry driven greedy American foreign policies in the middle east. We as American, knowingly or ignorantly supported through our democratic process our congressmen and presidents to prop up murderers, thugs, dictators the likes of Saddam Hussein, the kleptomaniac Saud Family and so forth. All we cared about was our cheap oil – but nothing is for free. The hidden cost that you don’t see at your gas pump is that of the millions of impoverished, downtrodden, voiceless masses who are oppressed by tyrants. The time for reckoning has come and the current administration is still staying the course and rubbing shoulders with the tyrants that run the oil kleptocracies. Muslim’s don’t hate our so called freedoms (what’s left of it anyway, this administration has been chipping at it since it set foot in office) they just want a voice and hope for the future. They want to take back their economies and forge a better future for themselves. There is no outlet for their rage except through their mosques. The dictators can’t really start executing religious figures and worshipers. Islam has become a voice of dissent and hope is the sea of desperation. That is why we are seeing all of this in Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Iran and so forth.
What makes us different from the tyrants if we parade down their streets with tanks? Do any of you think of this? We can’t go on like this. We need to reassess the situation and think of our future on this planet. We the people are not benefiting from all of this – what industry can pride itself of more than 100% profit without any capital investment but the oil industry. Any thoughts?
Posted by: Yossi | June 19, 2007, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“were supposedly ”
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Posted by: K. Smith | June 19, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am
This story is proof of NOTHING.
I’ve got a bridge for sale to anyone that thinks the terrorist would show their faces on video prior to coming here.
This is more of the current regimes campaign of fear and smear. The real terrorists and criminals are in the White House. Is driving your SUV worth the lives and minds of our soldiers and innocent civilians? If so, your gas is thick and red.
Is ABC a CIA operation?
Impeach Cheney and Bu$hCo.
Posted by: Fascist hater | June 19, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am
So we have the graduation ceremony this past two weeks, but the training has been going on secretly for years.
How many other training camps are winding up with graduated suicide bombers?
Makes one wonder what the valedictorian speech was. Go out and conquer the world??? Go out and kill and thus the world will be conquered.
Posted by: anonymous | June 19, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am
What a load of crap. This is just Bush keeping up the fear levels. We all know a ‘catastrophic event’ is going to take place sometime soon. so that Bush can sign the paper that allows him to take over America…a de facto dictatorship. This is so see-through it’s insulting. We are not all American.
Posted by: Bill Smith | June 19, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am
It’s attitudes like this from both sides that are the root of the terrorist problem. My God is better than yours and you better repent. Wake up, Fairy Tales are NOT humanities salvation.
Posted by: atheist | June 19, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am
A handful of extremists come to the US and bomb a building. The US goes nuts and sends 150,000 troops out.
Think about it. They come here and you retaliate. Did you ever stop to think that maybe they are only retaliating to start with?
Ah yes, it is all Clintons fault. Was he the one who ignored warnings about 9/11? I don’t think so. Bush was in office and ignored all the warnings.
Posted by: butcher99 | June 19, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Why are liberals so dumb? Do they think blaming someone will stop the Arabs? Maybe they think because they are liberal chickens that suicide bombers won’t hurt them.
Posted by: Judy | June 19, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am
>>>>>>Yeah, it is definitely our president’s fault, muslim extremists did not harbor any hatred towards the west before Bush took office. (sarcarsm…) Do some research before posting here.<<<<<< Posted by NOEL
I did some research…..
Which Bush?
Posted by: Breckandy | June 19, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am
We’re involved in Iraq because we don’t want to begin thinking about modifying our behavior at home. We are desperate to preserve our access to Middle East oil because that is the only way we can keep running our society the way we’re used to running it. Mostly, we don’t want to face the tragic misinvestments we’ve made in the infrastructure of happy motoring, and we don’t want to face the inconvenient truth that there really isn’t any combination of alt.fuels that will permit us to keep running all the cars the way we like to run them. Either we keep getting the oil or say goodbye to the American Dream Version 2.K.
I live simply so that others may simply live.
You bunch of sheep!
Posted by: Bikes not Bombs | June 19, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am
The solution to our problems are so simple.. yet everyone make this complicated..
1: Shut down our boarders. Using our military and boarder patrol.
2: stop all foreign aid to any country that voted against the US at the U.N. more then 20% of the time. The US should only send food as aid.. and nothing more.. We should never give weapons as aid to ANY country!! NEVER.. We should never give military support to any country who has voted against the US at the U.N. more the 3% of the time.. We are not the world police force.. We are not the worlds re builders. And we are not a refuge for third world country refugees
3: Change or trade policy to make it 1 in 1 out.. No more uneven trading. This will pressure the rest of the world to want to do business with us.. It will increase our work force.. Also this means that US companies must use US products and stop outsourcing parts and labor or pay a import tax that will eat up their profit. And increase the taxes big companies must pay if they out source any parts or labor. (NAFTA DID NOT WORK!)
4: ALL POLITICIANS are limited to 12 yrs of service.(this mean a total of years, not 12 years in the senate, 12 yrs in the house and 8 yrs president). That will stop the professional (for lack of better words) politicians, thus the out side world will not have anyone to hate.. because no one will be in office long enough to hate.
5: do away with the primary election and give the American people more choices of who they would like to run the country.
We need to make America Strong again.. And we can not depend on politicians to do that. As history has shown us just the oppisite..
Posted by: Fishbite | June 19, 2007, 10:16 am 10:16 am
in other news today: ‘Monday: 2 GIs, 149 Iraqis Killed; 320 Wounded’ — now that means for every 2 americans killed, there are 149 iraqi that are dead — you think they haven’t noticed this discrepency?
more news — ‘More than a 100 people — including CIVILIANS, police and Taliban militants Have been killed in massive fighting in the past three days in southern Afghanistan’
american air strikes kill the afghan civilians along with the talibans, and all we say is ‘oops, sorry’ — but if just one american gets killed, its a major deal. what a double standard for american and muslim life. no wonder they’re standing up and taking crazy nutty actions — as long as we maintain a military presence on their soil, they will have reason to send more suicide bombers towards us — from the article — the reason they are sending suicide bombers is because:
‘These Americans, Canadians, British and Germans come here to Afghanistan from faraway places’, Dadullah says, ‘Why shouldn’t we go after them?’
the only way this will stop is a complete withdrawal of american military from the region — but that would be embarrassing, so americans won’t even consider it — how many more will have to die to save american face!?!?
Posted by: John Penner | June 19, 2007, 10:19 am 10:19 am
ilivedinhaitionce:
Feeble attempt at rewriting history and projecting your flaws on others.
Carter setup a 30 year policy to lead the US to energy independence. Raygun destroyed it. Had we done what Carter wanted we would NOT in the middle east.
Not to mention Raygun’s deals with the Iranian’s (prior to Rayguns election) that tied Carter’s hands. Carter got to clean up the mess left by prior US policies in Iran – mainly over throwing an elected gov’t to install the Shah.
Posted by: Facist Hater | June 19, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I am really suspicious of the number of pro-war postings, here. Sounds like the flying right is pretty desperate.
Has anyone posting here bothered to read Bin ladin’s reasons for attacking the United States? It might help to go to the source’s mouth, don’t ya think?
Next, it is impossible to make intelligent comments unless you have have historical context. Required reading is “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man,” by John Perkins. Then read his just published follow-up, “Secrets of Empire.” Then come back and we’ll have a discussion.
Posted by: Commander Guy | June 19, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Anyone saying the terrorists hate us for our freedoms is a TOOL. Sure they dislike our culture. But is that enough to strap explosives to their chest and blow themselves up for? I don’t think so. They hate us because of our foreign policy. When is the right wing of this country going to accept that not every action ever taken by the US is by default correct? Seriously, we are not omnipotent. We are not morally superior. We are falliable human beings just like them.
No one here is saying hug the terrorists. It’s impossible. Islamic extremism is an IDEA. They are not from any one country, they are not any one nationality. They are a bunch of guys running around with an IDEA. How can you kill an idea? If we keep following the right wing’s idea of the “War on Terror” all we will be doing is creating more terrorists.
You want to end this? Solve the Israel/Palastinian/Syria/Lebanon issue. Yes that is difficult, but we aren’t even trying. We have to stop accepting the every action Israel takes is by default correct. Also we have to end this Iraq occupation. The entire world recognizes this for what it was, an unproked attack and occupation by the most powerful country in the world on a Muslim county. Seriously, you right wingers are only defending Iraq because to admit it was a ridiculously horrible mistake would be to admit that your entire philosophy when it comes to foreign policy is bunk
The other thing we can do, is end our dependence on oil. What natural resources are there in the Middle East besides oil? If oil was $1 a barrel, would we give a crap at all about that place? No we wouldn’t. Every barrel of oil we buy puts money into the hands of our enemies. We are funding them.
Posted by: Troy | June 19, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am
don’t believe the hype. after cheap oil runs out Americans will self-implode soon enough. why send bombers here……
Posted by: Rise Above | June 19, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am
…the US as Darth Vader’s Empire and terrorist jihadis as Luke Skywalker
Know the power of the dark side!
Posted by: Darth Odie | June 19, 2007, 10:25 am 10:25 am
This is the propoganda of neocons. Simply spreading the hateredness.
Posted by: John | June 19, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Any suicide attack on american soil will be the result of evil forces, the policies of Bush and Cheney!
Posted by: Progressive Patriot | June 19, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am
So much for fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here. One of the dumbest talking points ever. Apparently one of the courses was “Mapquest for Terrorists.”
Posted by: Fed Up | June 19, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am
How many of the ships unloading at our docks are inspected? I believe the correct answer is 1%. While I can’t fly with knitting needles, I can bring in tons of cargo on a container ship docking in New York or in San Fran. I can walk across the river into California, or take an atv into North Dakota. I can get into the USA with ease. I can ship in whatever I need. I can hire a private plane to move my cargo to whatever location I desired. I just can’t knit on a commercial jet.
Posted by: An old broad | June 19, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Ha Ha Ha Ha! How nice of them to allow photo op’s for the graduates! And then to announce they are sending suicide bombers to the US.
Responsibility fo any attacks in the US, will undoubtedly be elements in the US govt. NOT MUSLIMS..
Al Queda gonna get you!
Posted by: Octavia | June 19, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Bush and the repubicant’s didn’t create muslim extremists, they just multiplied them one hundred fold…
Posted by: Jerry | June 19, 2007, 10:38 am 10:38 am
“There always have been, and always will be, people who simply don’t believe that war can eventually make things better. History has proven them wrong time and time again (but they don’t seem to care).”
-John Denton
You have a unique understanding of history. Name ONE war that made things better for the aggressor.
Posted by: fascism hater | June 19, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Please, wake up people! This story is a crock – why would a Taliban/Al Quieda leader speak in English? Why would they alert the world by “inviting” journalists who would post this Bull story all over the western media? This is nothing but fear-mongering raising it’s head once again. Be Afraid, be very afraid… This story is so obvious that I almost laughed out loud when I read it, except that it will fuel more officials to call for the increased reduction of civil liberties, more money to waste on far away wars, increased domestic spying, control of the internet – meanwhile our healthcare, our education our jobs and even our military are outsourced to more multi-national corporations and we live in constant fear of the Muslim Boogey Man. I say Bull. It’s called “Strategy of Tension”. Look it up.
Posted by: TiredOfLies | June 19, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Whew, thank God we have secure borders!
Everyone living near the Mexican border in Arizona knows that middle easterns have been crossing the border illegally with fake id’s with Hispanic names.
It kills me that the mainstream media won’t cover this though.
Google it if you don’t believe it. The LA Times did a back page story…
Posted by: hklm21 | June 19, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Noel:
I did my research and I didn’t find anything about Terrorist announcing they would be coming to America because America came to them.
Iran holds annual Anti-America rallies every year. They’ve never once threatened to attack America on our home soil. But, with George W. surrounding their country we find them helping the insurgency and funding/training terrorist groups.
You’re right though, this probably would have happened the exact same way if Al Gore (or ANYONE else) would have been elected.
hope you caught that sarcasm.
Posted by: Tyranny | June 19, 2007, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Come on now! Do you really believe that they would be so stupid as to have a “graduation ceremony”? To be infiltrated by spies and informatants? More booga booga to scare the sheeple into doing anything that Dictator Bush wants! I hope our readers are not stupid enough to fall for this blatant propaganda.
Posted by: BR | June 19, 2007, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Read “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” and “Secrets of Empire” by John Perkins. Then, let’s talk.
Posted by: Tom | June 19, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am
The borders should have been closed right after 9/11. The President blew it . The whole country was behind him . Now we have to show we are the Super Power and take it to the terrorists B4 they take it to the US. and you know it’s only a matter of time B4 they come over here .
Posted by: Dick Hurtz | June 19, 2007, 10:55 am 10:55 am
It’s amazing reading through these comments and all the scared people calling for “increased border security” and blaming liberals, movie stars, etc… it’s just so tiresome. Why is it so hard to understand that FEAR is a very simple and extremely effective lever to control people hearts and minds. Don’t believe it? Then how do you explain the advertising industry? It’s absolutely rampant. Some examples: “Heartburn medicine – you could take a tums and feel relief in a few minutes but it’s better to take a prescription – that heartburn could be eating away at the lining of your stomach…
Posted by: SoTired | June 19, 2007, 10:55 am 10:55 am
don’t you people have jobs? go back to work.
Posted by: Dave | June 19, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I guess they missed the memo about fighting us over there so we don’t have to fight them here? When will we stop creating bigger messes in the Middle East? Oh, I forgot. We have to until western companies have extracted the last drop of oil.
Posted by: Beau | June 19, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I doubt these clowns will make it into western countries to mount operations: think about it: some sweaty 12-year-old with bad English and wearing a too-big coat tries to get through customs? I think they will be used in Iraq and Afghanistan. These guys aren’t coming here. I would be more worried about the sauve guy with three degrees, dady’s money and a big grudge against the west. Those were the guys on 9/11.
Posted by: Bob Macdonald | June 19, 2007, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Invading Iraq after 911 was like attacking Brazil after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.
Not only did this divert our resources from Afghanistan, but increased the will of the enemy to kill Americans.
Bin Laden 2. US 0.
Posted by: Jeff | June 19, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Many new technologies will help in the future as long as we stand together. Let us elect a president with smartz. Make them take an aptitude test like the military does. If they don’t score high enough then they can only reach rich dude’s kid. A military draft sound right around the corner? We should all serve in some way to help our country. Mandatory service!
Not just for war but for hospitals, infrastructure, education and every other sector that needs help. Also some real money for the troops would help them feel less screwed when they are trying to feed their families and the ones they are dying for.
Posted by: viet vet | June 19, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Just wondering, if it is American policy that caused these extremists to want to suicide bomb us….what did Germany do to them?
Posted by: Christine | June 19, 2007, 11:04 am 11:04 am
B.S…..another “Boo, Gotcha” by the desperate right wing crazies…!!! I wouldn’t put it past some of these crazies to make their “dispensable aides” dress up in sheets and strap on bombs just to scare stupid Americans into voting for them again
Posted by: chabuka | June 19, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am
We need to deal with terrorism as if it was what it is, a global war – not continue to fight it as a political/police action. Also, all those countries that support terrorism should be put on notice: ” If we are attached in this country again on the scale of 9/11, each one of these countries will be held complicit and receive a like response from us, period.”
Posted by: Mike | June 19, 2007, 11:08 am 11:08 am
To understand why the US is so unpopular in Muslim lands, particularly in the Middle East, one has to know the history of our involvement there. Our problems go way beyond what Bush has done. The first thing that infuriated the Arab countries was US recognition of Israel and the expulsion of Arabs in Palestine in 1948. President Truman was advised by Secretary of State George C. Marshall and Secretary of War James Forrestal not to recognize Israel as an independent country. Truman caved in to pressure from the lobby, and the Arabs have hated us ever since. Then, in 1953, the CIA organized a coup against the democratically elected government of Iran. This was done because Iranian Prime Minister Mossadegh nationalized the oil industry in Iran. The US then propped up the repressive and unpopular Shah until the Iranian Revolution of 1978. When in 1980, Saddam Hussein invaded Iran, the US provided support to the Iraqi military. Saddam later returned the favor by invading Kuwait. We also aided Muslim forces (including what later became the Taliban) fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. Yes, the jihadis in Afghanistan once considered the US to be a friend. What really set us up for the two attacks on the WTC was staying in Saudi Arabia after Gulf War I. Osama bin Laden (our former ally in Afghanistan) stated explicitly that his problem with the US stemmed from our long-term military presence in the Muslim holy lands. He also denied in an interview with a correspondent with Ummat magazine, a Pakistani publication, having anything to do with the 9/11 attacks. In any event, he has yet to be tried in absentia or even indicted for this crime. This is not to defend bin Laden, but it is time for our leaders to acknowledge that our many interventions in the Middle East have not served us well. We are creating enemies faster than we can defend against them.
Posted by: txpenguin | June 19, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Rick,
Dude check the History out before you post stupid comments. If I recall they attacked us and the World Trade Center way before the Iraq War. Naive should be your trade name
Posted by: opus | June 19, 2007, 11:11 am 11:11 am
It doesn’t surprise me that these people think we want to exterminate Muslims. They have no idea what being free means. They live on a much more base level then we do.
Posted by: Wes | June 19, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am
You people are so gullible.
Posted by: EyesWideShut | June 19, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am
In addition to the length of the conflict:
Since when did contributing to someones anger excuse their actions? If a 9 year old walked up to you in the store, after dropping a bottle of pickles, and said it was his sisters fault because she called him a fathead, would the mess on the floor be the sisters to clean up? When on earth did logic that wouldn’t be applied to 9 year olds become acceptable to apply to educated adults? What are we telling people when we (essentially) imply that their murderous action is OK because someone else did something wrong? We are telling people that they are not responsible for their actions. As long as we do that, things are just going to get worse imho. bk425
Posted by: bk425 | June 19, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am
wow too many posts to read…in conclusion, extremists hate us
Posted by: lover of life | June 19, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I’m happy to see that all the new recruits are equipped with a proper flag. They’re going to need it. ;)
12 year olds, eh? Didn’t say if they were handicapped. That recruitment effort seems to be humming along over there. *smirk*
America has fought her own home-grown terrorists for over 100 years. They’re certainly still around, but America has successfully reduced them to the handful of pathetic, powerless morons we see before us today. It *can* and *has* been done here, and it *can* and *must* be done again there – time should be no object. It’s a worthy goal that *must* be attained for the future of America and the world at large, even if it takes 100 years.
If anyone is hankering for a little “redeployment”, let’s start with the WWII theaters. Aren’t we done there yet? ;)
Posted by: Pam | June 19, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am
here we go, its time to use the strategy of scaring the public once more from president Smirky and dick cheney. investigations must be getting close, so its time to up the notch on terra alert.
Posted by: Ang | June 19, 2007, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Training school for suicide bombers huh, I’ll bet they go trough a lot of instructors, ie 1 per teaching session and if they (the new recruits) are as slow to learn as their cousins from Irag (New Military trainees), I’ll wager they have gone through more instructors than they have inducties. LOL-One more comment-U S intelligence? Isn’t that an oxy moron??!
Posted by: Watchman777 | June 19, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am
This is the kind of publicity the Taliban wants and we are giving it to them,. This Taliban situation can be easily solved. First, challenge their leaders to go on suicide runs and second, empty Americas prisons and send them to fight. They are already miscreants so if they commit atrocities, no problem.
Posted by: John | June 19, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am
If you ask me we should have put a military presence on both borders after 9/11 and with actual authority to do something instead of watch.
Our government has been more reactionary in nature, ever since Pearl Harbor. We want to be proactive against something we can’t comprehend. No red, blooded American wants to strap bombs to their person and go blow themselves up for a cause. That’s not to say we won’t die for a country but these people out there won’t fight us face-to-face. They do understand that they cannot win militarily and it makes me sick how they use our own politics against us. I do not understand why our own government doesn’t grasp that or maybe they do and just do not care.
Posted by: L22sys | June 19, 2007, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Fear makes us do strange things.Why is there always war. I wish it were not so but it never goes away. When I think of a time when Muslim extremists threaten my life or the life of my family, what else is one supposed to do other than bare arms and fight?
Posted by: Phil | June 19, 2007, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Muslim Terrorist cheered on by Democrats in Iraq.
The Shah of Iran removed by democrats (Carter)
Afghanistan surrendered by democrats (Carter)
Castro loved on by democrats
Hugo Chavez cheered on by Democrats
Bush “hated” by democrats
US Military “hated” by democrats
Defeat at any price the goal of democrats.
Posted by: Steve LtCol USMC ret | June 19, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am
That is what happens when the Government spends all of it’s time taking away our rights while leaving the borders wide open so any terrorist can walk in with the other illegals.
Posted by: Patriot 2007 | June 19, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Do you people really think that anyone would invite cameras to video faces of people that were trying to “sneak into” a country to perform terrorist acts? Give me a break….this is another scare tactic to try go get Americans to give up liberties! Wake up people!
Posted by: Anonymouse | June 19, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am
I’ve been predicting these attacks since February 26, 1993 – the first World Trade Center bombing – most, except perhaps Ramzi Yousef, seem to have forgotten. It is not our fault.
Posted by: Patrick Murphy | June 19, 2007, 11:40 am 11:40 am
I disdain people calling potential suicide bomber victims “innocent civilians”.
No one in this country is innocent in this war. We have idly stood by and allowed our government to start wars of aggression against third world countries that were no “stategic threat” to our civilization. We are trying to kill fly’s with a sledgehammer. It is no wonder they want to come here for a little pay back.
When they exact it we won’t be “innocent victims”.
It’s time to wake up and pay attention to what our government is doing in our name and it is not good!
Posted by: Ken G | June 19, 2007, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Call it war. War is a good word for this issue. In war, principles of war.
The ACTUAL DAMAGE they can do, is pretty much zero. Hard truth. Many will cry about it. They WANT the damage to be great; it’s not. We, Western People, let TENS OF THOUSANDS die all the time. Cars kill people. Drugs kill people. Poor health care kills people. Infant mortality in your country IS BAD. No one ‘really cares’. But, is FIVE people die ON TV, ‘oh boy! a holocaust!”
Fixing the enemy. In this idea. You the big fixed target, spend money on defense. The enemy can send ONE IDIOT, a MONTH, to die at a random target, and the ONLY GOAL, is for him to FAIL, and you to SPEND a TRILLION $ maintaining a defense structure.
Even if true, they cant do any damage. Their GOAL, THEIR GOAL, is NOT what is being pretended. THEIR GOAL is the EXACT SAME RESPONSE BEING OFFERED THEM. Their plan WORKS PERFECTLY, YOU WILL, spend a trillion dollars to stop $50.00 in damage, they VERY GOAL THEY SEEK. My message to the bombers… YAWN,, makes me sleepy. I’m not scared.
Posted by: Rich | June 19, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am
he who fails to study history is doomed to repeat it. Hmmmm
Has anyone recognized how these militants resemble the Al Capone’s of our past. Or of Hitler’s Mein Kampt. Kill everyone who isn’t like the super race??
Those who want to cut and run are very naive. One can bury their head in the sand but there is still a lot exposed.
Posted by: big daddy | June 19, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am
The problem arose in the get-go of the War on Terror: We didn’t recognize hubris from day one! The United States should have and still should try to garner allies across the globe rather than to alienate them by going into Iraq. We are in a quagmire. This report shows that the terrorists are no longer desiring to fight the infidels (us) in Iraq but are striving to move into our homelands.
The War in Iraq was a repetition of the mistakes of the past, hubris. Internal hubris.
We must embrace the international community rather than tell them what to do and how to obey.
Posted by: Matthew | June 19, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Interesting to note that the video they have posted doesn’t have the English segment. Also interesting is the convenient at the end of his speech. Can anybody guess what he said?
Posted by: Hunter | June 19, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am
9/11 happened on Bush’s watch!! They had MANY warnings and failed to heed ANY of them and NEVER warned the American public! But, in the meantime, ol’ John Ashcroft switched to flying charter jets instead of commercial. Hmm…what did you know, John?
And we can thank Poppy Bush for putting US troops on Saudi soil and getting bin Laden to focus on fighting the US directly when we were never a part of his targets before.
Yay for the Neocon thinking! It’s gotten us into permanent war to continue feeding the military-industrial complex beast!!
And I guess so much for “fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here”, eh?
Posted by: Jerry T. | June 19, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I love how the the ignorant try to claim that liberals, progressives and Dems are white flag waving cowards when in fact the repubs are the the ones who so blindly surrender their rights to the government and are guided by color coder fear meters.
Posted by: BluejJersey | June 19, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am
to the people bashing clinton, you are just as myopic as the people bashing bush. i’m sure you don’t remember how the GOP around the country lambasted clinton when he tried to name osama bin laden public enemy #1. they thought he was insane.
anyone calling liberals treasonous for wanting a sane debate does not understand democracy – go back to 8th grade.
anyone who thinks nukes are the answer, i have a thought for you: before you want to kill millions of innocent women and children, try killing yourself first. if we use nukes, then nothing separates us from the terrorists. we have already killed plenty of innocents in iraq in the name of getting bad guys. has that stopped the bad guys in iraq? hmmmm…
conservatives, your country needs you. what happened to your long-held practicality? you like to make fun of the liberals for being soft and idealistic, so what is your answer?
nukes and a big wall.
good one.
by the way, if you think 1979 was the start of all this, ask yourself: what caused 1979?
thinking that the enemy is just a bunch of fanatics is itself an insane strategy. US commanders in Iraq are now negotiating with supposedly fanatical sunni tribal leaders. amazing how the vast majority of people will become very sane and logical if you offer them the right deal (backed with enough force). this is called diplomacy and it worked against the “mad” russians too.
everyone else – the minority of true wackos – are then a matter for the CIA, FBI, Interpol, MI5, MI6, etc. That’s what they’re there for.
chasing a handful of bad guys with your entire army just wastes lives.
we did the right thing in afghanistan, and everyone was on our side.
then we had to go into iraq. oops.
time to reprioritize.
Posted by: jh | June 19, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Afghanistan is only useful to the Oil Administration if it can help with Caspian oil or natural gas.
The Oil Administration is following its public Cheney Energy policy in its attempt to secure the oil infrastructure in Iraq — they published that plan before 9/11. So it was no surprise they tried to use 9/11 as an excuse to attack Iraq. When that failed, they made up a bunch of silly lies to convince the fairly ignorant US public that Saddam was in bed with his lethal enemy Bin Laden, so they could try to grab and secure and build the Iraq oil infrastructure.
The Cheney Energy Policy is public US policy and has been so for many years.
Cheney publically declared that he wants the US to increase its dependence on Middle Eastern (and Columbian and Venezualan…) oil, and that he wants to build a military to be able to seize oil in more countries.
Unfortunately, this Oil Administration has been so terribly incompetent at foreign affairs, and mismanaged the Iraq Occupation so badly, that Iraq is pumping even less oil than before, and their allegations that Iraq oil would fund the Occupation have been proven excruciatingly false — and the long term prospects are terrible for US oil hegemony, as a huge majority of Iraqi civilians now hate the US and desire its absense, which cannot bode well for the billions of dollars the US is pouring into its plan to move its Saudi bases to Iraq.
Posted by: Robin James | June 19, 2007, 11:56 am 11:56 am
It’s time to take back our country and become proud Americans once again. We began selling out years ago when we allowed ourselves to purchase foreign products on the cheap. Now, look how many of those foreign companies have ownership of our homeland companies. E.g., Toyota, Firestone, Assa Abloy, etc.
Now, we leave our borders open for public relations purposes. We will soon become the next Iraq or Afghanistan in regards to suicide killings. We need to shut off our borders and become self sufficient once again. Boycott foreign oil. Boycott foreign products. Boycott companies that hire illegal immigrants.
If we do not take our country back, the solid colors of our flag will bleed and become saturated into nothing.
Posted by: bt | June 19, 2007, 11:57 am 11:57 am
There is one solution to all the mis-named Islamic terrorism. Take your country, your guns, your lavish corporate HQ’s, your legions of forces, your insufferable preaching, your profound ignorance, your support for sick and corrupt dictatorships, your endless thirst for OTHER people’s God given resources and get the hell out of places that dont belong to you. Then someone might like you.
Posted by: Harkadahl | June 19, 2007, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
> They hate democracy
Um, the US sends incredible amounts of money and weapons to suppress free speech and prevent democracy in Saudi Arabia. The only people fighting for democracy in Saudi Arabia are organization like al Qaeda. Unfortunately, the US has aligned itself solidly against democracy in Saudi Arabia, and in Egypt, and in Palestine, and in Jordan…
The image of the US has gotten *much* worse over the last 8 years across the Middle East. Now the main things the US is credited with are siding with dictators, siding with Israel, and torturing and murdering Moslems.
It is sad that the main people fighting for democracy are the sworn enemies of the US…
Posted by: Dan Burn | June 19, 2007, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
So much for “we have to fight them over there” (Iraq, Afghanistan) “so we won’t have to fight them over here.”
Terrorism is a tactic and can’t be defeated. Imagine a war on flanking.
Posted by: Binh | June 19, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I disdain people calling potential suicide bomber victims “innocent civilians”. – Kenny G
Dude, too bad, because that is exactly what many victims are…many terrorism victims ARE innocent civilians, and have NOTHING to do with public policy. The 10 year old kid on the subway going to school…some 80 year old granny on the way to the doctor…people going to work…you and your family…
Posted by: Jazz | June 19, 2007, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
If the terrorists are hell bent on using any means at their disposal to attack us, it should come as no surprise to see that they are preparing suicide assaults on our country. Quite frankly, I think we should have been anticipating this news and preparing for a possible suicide attack.
Posted by: Jack Brennan | June 19, 2007, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Sounds like a job for Slick Willy’s wife and the Sultan of Slam to right the world once and for all. Vote Dem in 2008 – “Don’t Stop thinking about tomorrow… yesterday’s gone” Islamic States of America here we come.
** NOT **
There is one person to blame for it all and we dare not utter his name.
Posted by: The Dragoon | June 19, 2007, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
These muslim extremists remind me of a cartoon Pinky & the Brain. They had an obsession with taking over the world. They were actually so dumb their plans never succeeded…As for the first post, by Brandon, You must me the biggest ignoramous to exist on the face of this earth. Read up on history buddy, these idiots have been trying to conquer the world longer that the United States even existed….
Posted by: Pinky&theBrain | June 19, 2007, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
A reading of John Perkin’s “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man,” (New York Times bestseller) and his just published “Secrets of Empire” provides understanding for the basis for much of U.S. foreign policy, including Iraq and Iran. This information is sorely lacking in the public debate.
Posted by: Tom | June 19, 2007, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
The Muslim extremists’ mission to destroy us by using suicide bombers has nothing to do with W or politics. It is because of their extreme interpretation of their religion and their belief that our way of life is wrong. They will do their best to destroy us because they believe their way is the ONLY way. It does not matter what political party is in power and neither this administration or his Daddy’s started this by going into Iraq. For our children and grandchildren’s sake we better secure our borders and screen every person in this Country either on a VISA or here illegally. As for Afghanistan, it was Russia’s Viet Nam. They were occupiers before us and were defeated. We must stay the course there and deal with Pakistan and Iran as well as stabilizing Iraq. Pull your head out of the sand America.
Posted by: Tinman | June 19, 2007, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Okay people, everybody shut up for a minute about the wall at the Mexican border.
PLEASE NOTE: Not one of the 9/11 hijackers came into the US through Mexico. NOT ONE. They flew in at US airports or came across the CANADIAN border, and lived here. LIVED here, some for years, before getting onto planes and flying them in to the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania.
If there really are suicide teams, they are probably already here.
That or some education for those of you who are thought deficient. Pleeeze, give me a break.
Posted by: KayWrites | June 19, 2007, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Bin Laden’s stated goals are to keep America wasting treasury and international respect by engaging the middle east militarily. Now that we are seriously considerng leaving, Bin laden is going to bomb us to keep our anger level up so that we continue to fight over there. Bush was right about one thing, we fight them there so we don’t fight them here. The only way out of this mess is to ween our nation off of foriegn oil, and that’s the real sin of this administration, curbing the effort to remove our need for oil. No need for oil leads to no need to have immoral policies in the middle east leading to no extremists. It’s that simple.
Posted by: Charlie D | June 19, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
All those suicide bombers need to do is wear a sombrero and sneak across the border.
Chimpy left our borders wide open after 9-11 and we are going to get attacked again. Way to go.
Posted by: Tom3 | June 19, 2007, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
When’s the class reunion?
Posted by: Tim | June 19, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
As each day passes it becomes more and more apparent.
Yes, 9-11 was an inside job.
Their new ‘pearl harbor moment’.
Created by them, for them.
Impeach and prosecute, NOW !
Posted by: Keith H. | June 19, 2007, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
This is what’s referred to as “blowback”- look it up if you don’t know what I mean. It’s NOT that they “hate us for our freedoms” or whatever- anybody that believes this are termed “useful idiots”. Sadly, there appears to be many of them posting here. No, it’s about our CONDUCT in the rest of the world.
Weren’t we told that we were “fighting them there so we wouldn’t have to fight them here”? Clearly, this article shows that fighting them there WON’T PREVENT THEM FROM COMING HERE. It NEVER DID.
And, there WEREN’T any suicide bombers OR car bombs in Iraq before we got there. Think that’s a coincidence?
Posted by: Citizen J | June 19, 2007, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I will never cease to be amazed by all the right wing suckers who can’t seem to keep issues straight.
1. It’s definitely not good that these people are planning on sending suicide bombers to our countries, and we should do something about it. Is any of this footage coming from Iraq?
2. Instead of focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan where this stuff is probably going on, Bush et al. decided that toppling the regime in Iraq would be a better investment of our time, completely neglecting the ramifications of a protracted occupation and its role in the collective middle eastern muslim conscience.
3. The right wing talking point generators and the suckers who buy into it are completely blind to the circular logic they employ when saying “we’re fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here.” Yeah, well we created that situation in Iraq. I was gung-ho about the same philosophy being applied to Afghanistan/Pakistan, but apparently Iraq was more important for some reason.
4. The longer we stick to the same failed strategy in Iraq, the more terrorists we are, in effect, creating. What better recruitment tool does the al Qaeda operative have than the failed American policies in Afghanistan and Iraq. Yes, failed – because they have failed unless your definition of success is so asinine and short sighted as to include only the military victory and toppling of the regimes that were there in the first place. And from reading the wing-nuts comments above, it is fairly obvious I have their definition pretty well nailed.
Posted by: KC | June 19, 2007, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I am sick of the “oil for blood” jingoism of the left. If it really is oil for blood, why the hell does gas cost $3.50 a gallon. Oh, and by the way, Exxon makes 8cents a gallon profit but the government makes almost 70 cents a gallon profit. Tell me who is the real profiteer here.
Dummies!
Posted by: TomSmith | June 19, 2007, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Why did the USAF “stand down” on 9-11-01?
Posted by: Author | June 19, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Not much point in organizing an alumni society for these graduates…eh?
Posted by: J Rock | June 19, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
The key to defeating The Terrorist is an alternative to Oil. Find that, let them drown in the stuff, and let that technology proliferate around the globe-except the middle east. And make it against the laws for foreigners to buy energy consortiums in the US. Until then, If it were up to me, I’d issue letters of marque and turn private gangs of seaborne ruffians to capture
enemy shipping under a skull and crossbones.
Posted by: Dr. Madd | June 19, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
First get rid of the democratic party and the left wing s in this country, then we can be safe
Posted by: hannity | June 19, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Why does every liberal take a news story like this as an opportunity to bash conservatives?
This is not what you should be focused on.
Posted by: ScottK | June 19, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
They are attacking us because of US foreign policy. If we didn’t have military bases over there they would leave us alone. Bush Sr. is more responsible than Bush Jr. is.
Posted by: Matthew | June 19, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
James, you don’t have a clue about history. I suggest you research the Middle East and stop repeating what the main stream media keeps telling you. Start thinking for yourself and do some research on the subject.
Posted by: Frank | June 19, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
cant blame bush if you elected him for 2 sessions in the office……….
Posted by: andrew | June 19, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Speaking of training and sending fanatics overseas to fight …. there are 170,000 foreign soldiers and 125,000 contractor/clandestine foreign operatives in Iraq.
So far U.S. “war” has greatly killed many more than any Middle Eastern “terrorism” during the past five years.
Posted by: SgtMan | June 19, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
U.S. intelligence officials described the event as another example of “an aggressive and sophisticated propaganda campaign.”
delivered directly into your little brain by ABC news. more americans get their terror propaganda from abc than any other source.except the white house.
Posted by: rowdy | June 19, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Net? What net? We’re pratically holding the door open for everyone. Don’t let those pesky Border Patrol do anything rash – like their jobs. We’ll convict them and send them to prison for years to keep them out of the way of the illegals’ coming in. Besides, the illegals only want a job! hahahahaha
Posted by: JA | June 19, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Looks like more staged terror attacks on the way…. :(
Posted by: dretweezy | June 19, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
andyin75067: “…half of this country did elect him TWICE”
No. Less than half elected him the first time. And the United States Attorney investigation may eventually show that it didn’t elect him the second time either.
Posted by: Ritchie | June 19, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
I hear all of you saying “Let’s bomb these guys back to the Stone Age or the 7th century” blah blah blah. I don’t know about you, but if one of these crazies set off anything in this country, my primary action would be to make like Rome did Carthage to Iran. Destroy it all, salt the lands so nothing will grow for 1,000 years. Make a statement to terrorism. Let them know, that when we get done with them, not only will we wipe Iran from the history books, but we will with Extreme Muslims as well. Everyone knows, the winner writes the history book. I’d prefer to bomb these psychopaths to non-existance. Wipe these crazies from history, so history won’t be able to repeat itself.
Posted by: Joe | June 19, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Anyone out there with some Caspian Oil Pipeline stock for sale?
Can’t anyone see the big picture?!
WE SECURE THE OIL RICH REGIONS (IRAQ, UZBEK, KAZAK, ETC.), ISOLATE THE “THREATS” i.e. Al Qaeda, Iran, Hezbollah, and feed the lifeblood of our global hegemony (US MILITARY), while “securing” a safer and more prosperous future for our AMERICAN CHILDREN.
FREEDOM AIN’T FREE: it’s $3.59 per gallon at the pump!
CRETENS!!!
Posted by: Veritas | June 19, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
What? You guys didn’t know that Bush has this ‘ol hurricane machine that he made up and when he fired it up it accidentally hit New Orleans? He fired it up again at Iran just a couple o weeks ago. (Sarcasm if you morons don’t get it.) You know…I’m sure there’s some people out there that really do believe that Bush dropped that asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. That’s almost as dumb as believing that Bush caused all the terrorism we face today. I take most of you failed History, eh?
Posted by: Joe | June 19, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Suicide bombers MAY WELL have come to America no matter what we did after 9/11, and no matter who was President over the last 6 years.
But two things….
1. Don’t tell me that chances are extremely great that we could have captured this particular bunch of goons had we not taken our eye off the ball so early on in the war and gone into Iraq rather than stay in Afghanistan (specifically along the Pakisti border).
2. And don’t tell me you’d be wouldn’t be criticizing President Clinton or a President Gore had all of this happened on his watch.
Posted by: Wayne | June 19, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Laden was our dog in Afganistan. He was trained by CIA to fight the soviets in Afganistan. He was called “freedom fighter” then. We knew when Pakistan asked Taliban to keep Laden in Afganistan. We never thought our dog would attack us. This is the reason Bush ignored the warnings of pre – 911. Taliban even agreed to our oil companies request to build pipeline through Afganistan to Arab ian sea where it is easy to transport to nearby countries and make a profit. All the while this guy had bigger goal to attack US. Stupid Liberals don’t know that Bush had nothing to do with Laden. And the dump patriots don’t know that he was trained by us and called him “Freedom Fighter”. Much like the Kurdish people now. WE call the Kurds the freedom fighters since they faught against Saddam. However Kurds are labeled terrorists in Turkey. Before he attacked the US he was attacking the neighboring countries and we did nothing since he was our dog and dogs don’t attack their masters. Lessons learned. This kind of attack will not happen again. Liberals and Patriots before you fight a holy war here know your history and American foriegn policy.
Posted by: HistoryMirror | June 19, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Any teams sent to hit the U.S. are already here! Mostly came through the southern border which has gone unprotected by the U.S. globalist government. They care very little wether the U.S. gets any terrorist attack. In fact they welcome it.
Posted by: DJ | June 19, 2007, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
American exceptionalism is a huge component driving the resentment of the United States abroad. Like it or not, YOU’RE NO BETTER THAN THE LOWLIEST BEGGER ON any street in the Middle East. What makes you think you’re so special? Your TV works? Beer in your fridge? A Hummer in your driveway. Step back a few feet and look at how ridiculous some of you sound.
Posted by: Todd Placid | June 19, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I believe those 300 recruits were sent to Palestine in which Gaza was taken. This President just has a constant way of keeping the public pinned…
Posted by: Crystal | June 19, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
This is just propaganda.Al-Qaeda is warning to attack US and Europe for the last two years. I am sick of all these last warnings, just do it or shut up.
Posted by: matt | June 19, 2007, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
“Boo!” Be afraid! Be very afraid!!! Bush must be gearing up for his attack on Iran. Gotta keep the sheep too scared to say anything…
Posted by: Daniel | June 19, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Why is it so many who post here and claim to know all about the threat that is Al Queda, and how the sky is falling, have no idea who Tim Osman is and what his connection to the US has been??
Posted by: Gotcha | June 19, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Wake up wacko’s! Going to war in Iraq and occupying that country only created more terrorists! Attacking Iraq after 9/11 would be like us attacking Australia after Pearl Harbor. If Bush is so serious about this war on terrorism and keeping our country safe why then are our borders still open? Why do we only inspect 5% of the cargo that enters our seaports? Why aren’t our Chemical plants and Nuclear power plants secure? You Reichwingers are so blind. The puppet masters who own our government want chaos in the world and in our own country. 9/11 WAS an inside job.
Posted by: American Psycho | June 19, 2007, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Cool. Why don’t all of you enlist instead of making comments about who’s fault it is and do something real to save America.
Posted by: Horse | June 19, 2007, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
We’re fightin’ em over there so we don’t have to fight em over hear.
-Dubbya
Suicide bombers in USA?
Bring em on.
-Dubbya
The worse it is, the better it is-it just means they are gettin’ desparate.
-Dubbya
The insurgency is in it’s last throes.
-Richard Cheney
CIA counterterrorism experts: war in Iraq has made the world less safe, created more terrorists.
Posted by: W Gump | June 19, 2007, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
These people do not hate us for our freedom they hate us because of our presence in their countries!
Our government has taken out democratically elected leasders from other countries for decades all for the corporations so that they can steal the natural resources and use cheap, slave labor all for money.
For all of you so called history buffs, just remember what happened to the Soviet Union after their 10 year war with Afghanistan.
Remember, we (CIA under Reagan) armed Bin Laden and others like him to fight the Soviet Union. Back then our government called them “freedom fighters” today we call these same people, terrorists and insurgents. We never learn from our own history. We arm and aid other countries, call them our friend and then years later we go to war with them. Whose next? Pakistan?
Posted by: American Psycho | June 19, 2007, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
I could only read so far into this blog before I realized that it is no wonder that we are in the current mess – both here and around the world. It is important to understand that, first of all, the purpose of a terrorist is NOT to kill; the purpose is to cause terror. Granted, killing is often the means, but they only need to do it once to instill the terror. What is so especially disheartening is how OUR government has actually HELPED the terrorists by keeping us afraid – to the point where we give up our civil liberties and all the qualities that make the USA the one-time envy of the world. Yes, our own government has become the terrorist who cause the fear. Remember that those who are willing to sacrifice liberty to gain freedom deserve neither.
Finally, yes, the threat to the USA from terrorism is not new; it goes back farther than our current administration, and even before Clinton. Just remember that they do not really hate us because we are free – that is merely our own propaganda to demonize the “enemy.”
If you need some help in keeping it in perspective, suppose that after the contested election in 2000 that China stated that the Bush administration “stole” the election and that they would invade the USA (and be greeted as liberators, no less) in order to free the American people. How would YOU feel about foreign bases being established throughout the country; foreign troops “protecting” us from ourselved? Whatever our “intentions” we were wrong to go into Iraq; W’s father understood that during the first Gulf war. Too bad that he became so beholden to supporting the Saudi regime that he instituted permanent bases in a land that Muslims consider sacred.
Oh well, hopefully we will survive the last of this current administration; may God/Allah/Budda/Krisna/etc. provide the American people with a better choice in 2008.
Posted by: deaddog | June 19, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Unambiguous common sense about “The War” is that we are losing it because both America and Israel have not and are not fighting the war that needs to be fought in the Levant/Eastern Mediterranean or in Iraq. It’s all the same war. Is there any ambiguity in that what has befallen the people of Gaza will befall the people of Iraq should America cut and run? How is Israeli disengagement from the Islamofascist terrorists in Gaza any different from American disengagement from Islamofascist terrorists in Iraq? America as a whole did not see this fact prior to the congressional election of 2004. Hopefully hindsight is as 20/20 as the adage goes. Given the Iranian intent to launch an apocalyptic Middle Eastern war in the near-term, let’s hope we’ll be around to execute its lessons in November 2008.
Posted by: Ursus | June 19, 2007, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
This is not the united state fault. This started in 1979. When the shah of Iran took 144 hostage this is thier 27 year war.
This started during the Gulf War ….when Saudi Arabia called on the US for help and Not Osama’s freedom fighters….
The US is not at fault on this.
Iran was the first to use suicide bombers.
better we fight in the east not the west.
As for 9-11. The stupidest thing I’ve ever heard was it was an inside job.
You people keep saying Bush is stupid….If he’s so stupid …how could he possibly pull off the attacks on 9-11.
Extremists have been trying to get us for alot of years.
Wake up! It’s not us it’s them….do we strap a bomb on our backs …no….do strap our children to a bomb and handcuff them to steering wheel and blow them up …..no.
Think people and take a little pride in your country our government is far superior to anyplace else on this planet.
If you don’t believe so ….leave.
Posted by: karen | June 19, 2007, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
All these Muslim extremists are just cowards. Not one of them has the guts to face someone who can defend themselves and shoot back.
Posted by: Yoda | June 19, 2007, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Some of you worry to much when its your time its your time remeber. LOL……
Posted by: ant | June 19, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Firstly there were far fewer terrorists before Bush invaded Iraq. Terrorism has been around since the days of Rome- It was always thus.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Everybody knew that but the majority of Americans.
9/11 was perpetrated by mostly Saudi Arabs backed by Saudi money protected by the Taliban government in Afganistan.
A government created with arms left over that were supplied by the CIA to fight the Russians
Indeed Saudi money still builds the schools that create the suicide bombers yet most of these people were not sent to Cuba.
Since the war in Iraq there is less oil available more instability which drives up the price-making certain Saudis rich so they can fund the schools that create the suicide bombers- Good one Dubya!
Afganistan would not be a problem if the US and the British didn’t waste the resources on a useless war that created more new terrorists than Osama could dream of. Instead of the 50,000 troops NATO has there now we’d have 150,000 and the Taliban would be eliminated.
And lets face it if a terrorist will die for their cause there’s very little one can do to protect you. Most security since 9/11 is either dumb or ineffective.
Ever since 9/11 Al Quadia has been preparing somthing to top 9/11. A couple of suicide bombers won’t do the trick. They may come but that will only be a diversion-I dare say they and radical Muslims are probably aiming to overthrow the Pakistani government so they can get their hands on some Nukes.(you would think this would be a major issue for the US- If not it will be kinda of like waking up in 1949 and finding out China fell to the Commies)
Of course the stupidest thing about the Iraq war is that the US and Britan eliminated Iran’s only counter balance-
Absolutly Brilliant! Dubya sure is a genius.
PS. The sadest part is that the American people tend to forget that the majority of you supported the war in Iraq in the first place.
Posted by: Dave | June 19, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Has long as we have unsecured borders and, TSA agents who can’t racially profile Muslims so they’re left harrassing mothers and the elderly, we’re doom to another attack.
Wonder how many of those new Al Qaeda wannabe’s are on the State dept. watch list? Our embassies are probably issuing them visa’s right now, as they did for the 9/11 attackers.
Posted by: Scott | June 19, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
No, we do not strap explosives to our chests in order to blow up civilians.
We send long range missiles and smart bombs instead.
So much more effective!
Posted by: gotcha | June 19, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
This is very very disturbing, especially for me. Given the fact that I work at a large urban museum. For members of security departments across America we must be on our toes. Let the day for George Bush to leave office hurry up and come.
Posted by: Daron | June 19, 2007, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Bring ‘em on.
Posted by: George Bush | June 19, 2007, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.” British Tyranny, like hell, was not easily conquered; and as with Muslim Extremism, the satan of hell unleashed, yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”
“Almighty God… I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.”
Posted by: True Patriot | June 19, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
This is what you call BLOWBACK! Do your research….even the CIA is aware of this…the hatred for the US comes from our horribly flawed foreign policy. It’s not the people or the troops, we are just cannon fodder for the corporate interests that have took over the military industrial complex. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! INVESTAGE 9/11!!!! INVESTAGE THE IRS!!!! INVESTAGE THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION!!! INVESTAGE FEMA CAMPS!!! INVESTAGE ALL CORRUPTION!!! IT IS YOUR DUTY AS AN AMERICAN PATRIOT!!!! DISSENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF PATRIOTISM!!!!
Posted by: TruthWillSetYouFree | June 19, 2007, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Every conflict is ultimately about money.
Your nationality, religion, political affiliation are irrevelant. Only one classification truly matters: you are not wealthy and powerful.
And you are being manipulated.
You might be a Democrat who voted in a Congress to end the war — and they didn’t.
You might be a pro-life Republican waiting for Roe v. Wade to overturn – and it hasn’t
You might be an old-line Conservative expecting the borders to close – and they haven’t.
You might be an Iraqi war widow searching for meaning in your loved one’s death – and you haven’t found it.
You might be 9/11 conspiracy theorist trying to make sense of the swirling rumors and coverups – and you can’t quite get all the pieces to fit.
You might be a union worker wanting to stem the flow of manufacturing jobs to your counterparts in Asia – but you can’t stop it.
You might be a suicide bomber dedicating yourself to your holy mission because it will strike fear in the hearts of infidel invaders – but it won’t.
You might be a President & Troops supporter who wants to see the job get done in Iraq – and it doesn’t.
You all have something in common. You are concerned about a world around you that slowly, inexorably worsens with each passing day. And despite your concerns, fears, efforts, and sacrifices, one trend persists for you, your friends, and your enemies too. You work harder, you get less in return, and monied interests grow wealthier and more powerful.
Every conflict is ultimately about money.
And every political conflict has only three real factions: those who stand to gain, and those stand to lose: and those being manipulated by the other two because the don’t understand the underlying nature of the conflict.
In the “war on terror”, you stand to gain if your in natural resource “development” (Exxon, Alcoa, Halliburton, etc), or if you make and use weapons (Lockheed, Blackwater, etc), or if your an extremist religous leader (Al Sadr, Falwell, etc), or if your a media outlet (ABC,CNN,FOX,hollywood, and various book, magazine and newspaper publishers) making bank on all the sound and fury that this conflict generates.
You stand to lose a lot right now if you are sitting on desirable natural resources that you’re hoping to profit from. Or if you join forces with those opposed to the piracy of those resources.
The rest of us are pawns.
Our passions and fears are targets of ceaseless manipulation. We are misled to believe whatever is most favorable to the monied interests. Political sleight of hand and media misdirection retains our focus, stokes the conflicts, and maintains the status quo.
Awaken. Ask yourself why your world is getting worse for all but the wealthiest few. Follow the money – find out who stands to gain when something happens, or doesn’t get done. And don’t believe everything you read.
Posted by: preacher orwell | June 19, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Twenty-two years ago, U.S. Navy Petty officer, Robert D. Stethem was savagely beaten, executed and thrown onto a hot airport tarmac in Beirut, Lebanon by Iranian backed Hezbollah terrorists during the marathon 17-day hijacking of TWA Flight 847. His lifeless body lay on the tarmac for hours, serving not only as proof of Islamist brutality, but as an omen of things to come. All of the Muslim terrorists who took part in the hijacking, killed Stethem and held the passengers and crew of the ill-fated flight incredulously remain free over two decades later.
Interestingly, the murder of U.S. serviceman Stethem was preceded by less than two years earlier of the bombing of the U.S. marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon on October 23, 1983– a bombing that claimed the lives of 299 of our servicemen and six civilians.
In response to that bombing, we pulled all of our troops out of Lebanon in February 1984, something similar that is being demanded of us today. One can see only too clearly that our acquiescence to the demands of Islamic terrorists have consequences, and not the type one would expect.
Iran, meanwhile, the primary sponsor of Hezbollah, continues to threaten the security of the United States through its nuclear program and exportation of terrorism in Iraq and throughout the West.
The manner in which we handled the murderous Islamic terrorists who all but installed a revolving door on TWA Flight 847 in its forced trips between Beirut and Algiers in 1985 is not unlike the manner in which we are handling the same terrorists and their identical ideology today.
Posted by: The Dragoon | June 19, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
I smell a rat-a big one. More lies to terrorize, rob and enslave us. Keep us in fear so we will continue to pump dollars into the defense machine. The US is becoming a police state-a totalitarian state. Wake up folks. They’re controlling your minds with this garbage. You’re more likely to be hit by a bus than attacked by a terrorist. Yet, you’re willing to surrender the Constitution so the tyrants can protect you. I say Hogwash.
Posted by: Mary | June 19, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Hey Americans, what part of the USA is Canada anyway???? The Title should bombers being sent to US, Canada, and Europe !!! Just like the other day, the so called leader in News you way, stating NATO was founding by the US and 12 European Nations – another lesson for our “cousins” south of the 49th, Canada was there too – just as we were on our beach at D-Day, joined the Second World War in 39 vice 41, and the Great War in 1914, and not 1917. Wake up, Canada is a separate nation!! Stop your Manifest Destiny Conspiracy – we are NOT you!!!
Posted by: Sheldon Maerz | June 19, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
All of these problems stem from the same origin. My imaginary god in the sky is better than your imaginary god in the sky. Our world will never be peaceful until people stop believing in these fairytales and stop being so afraid to have thier own individual thoughts. Religion is the greatest evil known to man.
Posted by: Willie 13 | June 19, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I agree with one thing, America is HATED all around the world. I speak from experience. I spent 13 years in the middle east, and I know from first hand knowledge. But It isn’t our country or our people that they hate, it is American Business. Now think about it. All the skams and crap American business pulls right here in this country. Look at the scam the Gas Companies just pulled, Putting three refineries off line just befor a holiday, just so they could scream GAS SHORTAGE, and gouge us with higher prices, just to increase their profit.
Now condider this, they pull that kind of crap here in this country where we have lots of laws to help protect us. What do you think their behavior is like overseas in countries where they don’t have those laws. FOR AMERICAN BUSINESS IT IS OK TO KILL, DISTROY, POLLUTE OR ANY THING ELSE THEY WANT TO DO, AS LONG AS THEY MAKE A PROFIT. That is why the rest of the world hates us. And the illigal and unjustified invasion of Iraq has only put more iceing on the cake. Why can’t we hold American business responsible for their actions over seas? Because our government is made up of Rich Lawyers, and most of those bad things happened under Republican administrations, (Republicans are the party of the Rich and Big Business, so why would they stop them, every thing goes, as long as you make a profit. Samuel Clements had it right 100 years ago, he said “AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH, WE HAVE THE BEST DAMN GOVERNMENT THAT MONEY CAN BUY!”
GOVERNMENT OF THE RICH, BY THE RICH, AND FOR THE RICH, AND THERE IS LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THE RICH.
TO HELL WITH THE REST OF US PHEASANTS, LITTLE, NO ACCOUNT PEOPLE, WE DON’T HAVE ANY RIGHTS, BUT THEN WE DON’T NEED THEM ANYWAY, ASK ANY RICH PERSON, THEY WILL TELL YOU!!! SLAVES NEVER HAVE HAD RIGHTS!
Posted by: Earnie Fossan | June 19, 2007, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
as i recall the ACLU and liberals are the ones hampering our efforts to stop these terrorists…and BTW..the planning and preperation for 911 was done 99% under the CLINTON administration!
Posted by: jim | June 19, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Let’s be honest, we are at war with radical Islam. Now let’s kill as many of them as we need to in order to claim a decisive victory.
Posted by: Jorge | June 19, 2007, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
I suggest everyone avoid crowds…don’t go to malls, forget about sports events, airports, jammed beaches or other tourist places, etc. The suicide bombers will want the most bang for their little buckskin hides…they will look for maximum occupancy.
Posted by: The Steph | June 19, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
I think it something in the water…
Posted by: Qoolie | June 19, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
well then
Posted by: joe | June 19, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Lies like this are always spewed forth from the right in the U.S. It’s the only way they can win elections:
“as i recall the ACLU and liberals are the ones hampering our efforts to stop these terrorists…and BTW..the planning and preperation for 911 was done 99% under the CLINTON administration!”
Note the absence of any links whatsoever to proof of this theory. Hey, if it sounds good and it fits your preconceived political ideology then screw it – JUST SAY IT! The model the right uses for its propaganda.
Posted by: KC | June 19, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Um, I thought the whole POINT to the Iraq war was to “fight them over there instead of fighting them over here”.
Good one, Dubya!
Posted by: M H | June 19, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Keep it straight folks. For those who keep repeating that the 9/11 terrorists came through Canada – that’s just another of gdub’s big fat ones. Keep it straight ….
Posted by: Outsidelookingin | June 19, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Clearly, our success or failure in Iraq has nothing to do with what the Taliban and al Qaeda. They came after us long before we invaded Iraq…the foul-up in Iraq was a decision made entirely independent of terrorism, as evidenced by Dick Cheney’s Iraqi oil field maps from February, 2001. Neocons advocated regime change throughout the 1990′s. The Bush Administration ignored al Qaeda and was always focused on Iraq. Why? It wasn’t because they thought he had sarin gas or anthrax…Rumsfeld provided Saddam with WMD, and it didn’t worry him in the least. They knew Saddam wouldn’t use these WMD against Isreal because Isreal would nuke Saddam’s palaces if they did. So, what have we learned:
1) fighting them there doesn’t mean they won’t send suicide bombers here (see London and Madrid);
2) Islamist violence won’t be quelled by foreign occupiers;
3) exporting democracy with Shock n’ Awe is a fools errand; and
4) most of the recent success fighting terrorism has been accomplished in Saudi Arabia, London, Germany and Fort Dix with superior intelligence and typical police work, not brigades.
Posted by: Frank | June 19, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
“U.S. intelligence officials described the event as another example of “an aggressive and sophisticated propaganda campaign.”"
They should know, they planted this story as part “an aggressive and sophisticated propaganda campaign.”
The real terrorists are occupying the White House.
Posted by: coal_train | June 19, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
The biggest terrorists are the ones in the current administration. Muslims are going to take over the whole world? Baw ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Countries like Iraq and Iran were on the verge of switching from the US dollar to Euros. The Taliban in Afghanistan weren’t on board for the building of the oil pipeline.
Our puppet masters needed an excuse to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan one that the gullible American people would rally around. BINGO 9/11 the neocon’s new Pearl Harbor!
Without 9/11 American citizens would not have supported any war. With 9/11 our government has given us the UNPatriot Act, The Military Commissions Act, killed Habeos Corpus, illegal wiretapping, reading our mail, shredding our constitution.
This so called perpetual war on terrorism has given the president the powers of a dictator. The terrorists laugh now because our own government has taken away our freedoms.
Wake up people! Those FEMA detention camps were built for a reason. Next we will have National ID cards with microchips embedded in them. Will those who refuse them be labeled non-residents and rounded up as enemy combatants and taken to the FEMA camps?
Then of course with all the distractions of Iraq, immigration, Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith, George Bush and others are quietly moving ahead with the North American Union. We the people, democrats, republicans and independents need to wake up!
Our government isn’t serving our best interests. They are serving their masters, the corporations, the military industrial complex and the international bankers. They are dividing the people of our nation on purpose with wedge issues because they know that united we stand, divided we fall.
They are dividing us and then they will conquer us and people will wonder in shock, how did this happen but by then it will be too late. We must stand up to our government before it is too late!
Posted by: American Psycho | June 19, 2007, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT RON PAUL TOLD RUDY GIULIANI IN THE DEBATE, “THEY ATTACK US BECAUSE WE ARE OVER THERE.” “WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ATTACKING US.”
“These Americans, Canadians, British and Germans come here to Afghanistan from faraway places,” Dadullah says on the tape. “Why shouldn’t we go after them?”
HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL FIX AMERICA!
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008! GO RON PAUL!!!
Posted by: Anthony Palmieri | June 19, 2007, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
So we’ve got the who, how, why, and where – but what about the when?
At this point, withdrawal won’t stop these terrorists (it didn’t stop them BEFORE we went to war)…
Bickering with each other won’t help – someone needs to come up with a solution to fix this mess.
Posted by: Court Jester | June 19, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
The neocons keep saying that the reason we fight them there is so we won’t have to fight them here. But it looks like fighting them there may not be stopping them from coming here. The George Bush reelection war will not stop them.
Posted by: Gary Nelson | June 19, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
MARY SAYS “More lies to terrorize, rob and enslave us. Keep us in fear so we will continue to pump dollars into the defense machine. The US is becoming a police state-a totalitarian state. They’re controlling your minds with this garbage.”
Umm, Mary, try maybe spending a few days not dropping acid…you’ll feel better and be able to think much clearer…I mean, c’mon, are you REALLY enslaved and in fear? lol Is your mind really being controlled by the government?…anyway, you’re not afraid of a few suicide bombers, are ya?
Posted by: Jazz | June 19, 2007, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Welcome to the spin zone. Where FDR said the only thing we had to fear was fear itself, now this administration has nothing to offer but fear itself.
The fact remains that you are far, far more likely to be knifed by some random mugger than be blown up by a suicide bomber.
And for Karen who referenced the seizing of the embassy in 1979, don’t forget that the CIA had overthrown the democratically elected Iranian government in 1953 (with the help of the Brits) after that government decided to nationalize the oil industry. The Brits and us decided Iran was getting too close with the Soviets and Cold War politics demanding we overthrow their democratically elected government and replace it with an autocratic monarch. Heaven knows why Iranians should have held a grudge about that.
Look, they don’t hate us because of our freedom or any of that nonsensical propaganda coming from the government (and it is propaganda, designed to keep you in fear and willing to surrender your liberties in the pursuit of permanent war. We’ve entered a bizarro world where the Republicans now are the ones saying “We’re from the government and we’re here to help.”) They hate us because we’re mucking around in their affairs.
None of this absolves the Democrats who are just as much to blame for this fiasco. The Democrats want to continue the same foreign policy, just “smarter.” On the cheap. While the Republicans have a devil-may-care attitude about putting us in hock to the Chinese, borrowing the money to fund the war.
Only if we throw out both parties do we have a chance to avoid losing our republic to an empire, and then to bankrupt ourselves into being a second-rate minor power like the Brits, dreaming wistfully of the days we used to run the world as we go hat in hand to the IMF for a bailout.
Posted by: Jason | June 19, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Keep it together guys, this isn’t politically based and politics should have nothing to do with this. It’s not neocon this or liberal that. We shouldn’t bicker about political sides as it just fuels the fire and splits us apart, we begin (or do) alienate each other. We the people, NOT we the liberals / conservatives / whatnot. It boils down to this. These people want to kill us. They will kill themselves trying to accomplish that. We shouldn’t live in fear because they’re trying to blow us up, but be observant to what’s going on. The government issues these warnings to help us, to inform us, not put us in a perpetual state of fear. We also shouldn’t exaggerate what could happen either (WWIII, a war on US soil…) that’s just scare mongering, oddly by those who point at the government for the same thing. The government will never win with some of you though. We’re not helpless without the government, it’s not like we’re unable to see terrorism or not see it’s signs. Passiveness is all it takes for something bad to happen, so stay alert, but be realistic. Protect yourself if need be. Actually understand why terrorists feel this way towards us, grab a weapon, lock your doors, get alarms; do whatever you need to feel safe, just be realistic. Just remember that information and reason is power people, NOT political bias, racism, religious hatred, radicalism (that goes for everyone of every religion), or disinformation, the worst offender, (you know who you are).
Posted by: Nerull | June 19, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
the only thing to fear is fear itself.
those who are willing to give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security
the media and political figures are trying to scare the people by posting this kind of information like this article into giving up. If they wanted to fight this thing as a nation they would be out there trying to come up with ways to fight national terrorism instead of sitting back and waiting for it to happen. All they are doing is terrorizing American people side by side with these extremists which makes them no better than those claiming to murder americans.
What we need is a plan to help us get through this modern threat. Our foreign policy is the biggest reason why they hate us or as the gov’nt likes to say “they are jealous of us.” Placing thousands of troops in over 75 countries around the world doesn’t seem like a very good idea to be doing while we should be practicing diplomacy. Our biggest problems are “snooping” around on other countries and using our military to achieve financial goals like resources and using our military in foreign affairs.
“Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty.” George Washington
“Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.” Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: chris, tw | June 19, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Jeff is an idiot.
“Once we start to question our government and the system of power we are all a part of, in my opinion, the terrorists are winning. They hate democracy and what we are, if we don’t have one vision about what to do and stand behind it 100%, they are getting what they want.”
It is in fact Jeff who hates democracy. Democracy means you can disagree with and question your government all you want – that’s what “freedom” means, Jeff. You are free to question and differ with Bush, Clinton, Obama, Giuliani, or anyone else.
Posted by: Jason | June 19, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Anti-Terror measures implemented under President Clinton:
– sent legislation to Congress to TIGHTEN AIRPORT SECURITY. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
– sent legislation to Congress to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF TERRORIST FUNDING. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
– sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF EXPLOSIVES USED BY TERRORISTS. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
– Developed the nation’s first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
– Tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
– Brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
– Did not blame Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after they had left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively — and successfully — to stop future terrorist attacks.
– Named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
– Tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
– Detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries
– Created a national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
– Robert Oakley, Reagan Counterterrorism Czar says of Clinton’s efforts “Overall, I give them very high marks” and “The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama”
– Paul Bremer, Bush’s Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley saying he believed the Clinton Administration had “correctly focused on bin Laden. ”
– Barton Gellman of the Washington Post put it best, “By any measure available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him” and was the “first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort.”
In stark contrast, here is the Bush-Cheney anti-terrorism record:
– Backed off Clinton administration’s anti-terrorism efforts.
– Shelved the Hart-Rudman report.
– Appointed new anti-terrorism task force under Dick Cheney. Group did not even meet before 9/11.
– Called for cuts in anti-terrorism efforts by the Department of Defense.
– Gave no priority to anti-terrorism efforts by Justice Department.
– Ignored warnings from Sandy Berger, Louis Freeh, George Tennant, Paul Bremer, and Richard Clarke about the urgency of terrorist threats.
– Halted Predator drone tracking of Osama bin Laden.
– Did nothing in wake of August 6 C.I.A. report to president saying Al Qaeda attack by hijack of an airliner almost certain.
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Posted by: curlyred | June 19, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Perhaps it’s time the U.S. Government stops arming and supporting fanatical militant groups and rouge regimes, as well as mangling in other countries politics in the name of big business interests. That’s one of the best ways to creating enemies and facing retaliation in the distant future.
Posted by: Reality Check | June 19, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Sure looks like the Truth. I’m not talking to no-one anymore.
Posted by: Jo Plumkin | June 19, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
there wont be any sucide bombings. they just want to scare you. makes great news though don’cha think?
Posted by: 4 | June 19, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Well, it’s finally happened. Our military actions abroad are going to kill Canadian civilians. I wonder if I’m going to be one of them? I’m gonna be in Toronto this coming weekend for the Pride Festival along with a million other people –pretty good target for a terrorist, wouldn’t you say?
Everyone is ignoring the big question: why do they want to kill us in the first place? People don’t want to kill other people for no reason –they just don’t. And our leaders want us to believe that they’d be willing to travel to the other side of the world and blow themselves up to kill us because we’re “helping” them? Obviously, they don’t want our help. If we weren’t in their country killing people, arresting people, wiping out their crops, and imposing our ideas of how a country should be run on them, do you honestly think that they’d have anything to do with us? Let alone want to kill us?
Posted by: Brandon in Canada | June 19, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
they just threatened 4 countries,
something is wrong with the world isn’t there.
Posted by: Robin Hood | June 19, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
HOW EXACTLY ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET HERE?
Posted by: Justin Boland | June 19, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Can you imagine Taliban inviting a news guy to take pictures of their would-be bombers? This is obviously a propaganda item by Brian Ross, or maybe a Pakistani journalist fooled him into buying this ‘exclusive.’
The sad thing is that even such obviously baseless propaganda is being used by war-mongers and Muslim haters on this website.
Posted by: masmanz | June 19, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Unfortunately, there is a difference in moral values between the Western Civilization and those who choose to carry out these dastardly deeds. How does one combat against them? They will continue to hate the good because of the evil in their hearts. We must pray to God Almighty…AND ARM OURSELVES TO THE TEETH!
Sandy – Ohio
Posted by: Sandy Thomas | June 19, 2007, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
“Whenever our affairs go obviously wrong, the good sense of the people will interpose and set them to rights.” –Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: Eyes Wide Open | June 19, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
You right wing nut bags are dumber than dirt.
There are exactly three groups of people that benefited from idiot Bush’s idiot Iraq war:
1) Iran- taking out the Hussein regime removed the primary strategic counterbalance to Iranian influence in the region.
2) Al Qaeda- they couldn’t buy the the type of PR or recruitment tools the Iraq war has provided, so President Raisin Brain (an old Bin Laden family friend) handed it to them.
3) private contractors- these treasonous degenerates have, in effect, built a machine into which they shove two parts US soldiers, three parts US national security, and a dash of campaign contributions (to keep the machine running smoothly. What comes out the other end, is of course, bundles of cash. What an evil contraption.
It is amazing how people constantly compare Iraq to Vietnam. Actually, a better comparison is Afghanistan in the 80′s, only this time, we are the Russians and we get bled.
Posted by: Carl | June 19, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Prepare for “false flag” operations, in other words. Complete fabrication and propaganda, like so much else coming from the mainstream media.
How much longer will America sit complacently and obediently while those in power continue with wanton destruction and death around the world, while stealing our money and legislating our freedom away?
What makes you think Bush/Cheney will give up power when their term expires? Congress has already relinquished the entire US government to the whim of the President in case of some disaster or attack. It’s a fact!
Wait and see what sort of false flag operation they come up with next to establish a corporate-military dictatorship in this country. Don’t think so? Keep your eyes open.
Posted by: Passenger | June 19, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
“The commotions that have taken place in America, as far as they are yet known to me, offer nothing threatening.–Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: Eyes Wide Open | June 19, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
ENGLISH! They are speaking english. This should be a red flag that shows this video is just propaganda.
Posted by: Tim Bosley | June 19, 2007, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
America is not fighting the war just so it can conquer it fights the war to liberate and free the people of nations.
Posted by: James Brown | June 19, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
When you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.
Seems to me this was the obvious intent of invading two Muslim nations for their natural resources:
1) Provide a replacement enemy for the Soviet Union for the military-industrial-congressional-complex to rail against. A “Global War On Terror” provides a never-ending fear-factor and a war that cannot end.
2) Secure the gas pipeline the Taleban refused to allow into Afghanistan.
4) Secure (steal) Iraqi hydrocarbon resources.
5) Establish permanent military bases in the region to dominate hydrocarbon resources and for use as beach heads for future wars for other remaining supplies.
6) Allow or perpetrate atrocities along the way so as to enrage the local population and blame terrorist actions on opposing sides…in effect, inflame the thousand-year-old divisions in Iraq, thereby starting genocidal civil war, thereby justifying the US presence in Iraq until the last drop of oil is gone.
7) With the civilian deathrate in Iraq at over 655,000 already (and probably much more since the printing of that number in the “Lancet” medical journal) in a society and culture that demands retribution for deaths to kin, once the “blowback” from the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions takes hold, the invading nations can expect suicide bombs to start showing up in our streets and neighborhoods; thereby justifying further, harsher invasions and providing plenty of fear-factor for the last vestiges of democracy to be stamped out – willingly – by a cowed and frightened populace.
Mission accomplished.
The Democrats have had 6 months to show their colors. Anyone who still hopes for our government to end this profoundly immoral occupation is a fool.
When criminals take the government, the people need to take the streets…if we don’t, we deserve what’s coming.
Posted by: Yankee0451 | June 19, 2007, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
This propaganda piece is designed to gather support for bombing little children and civilians. This is fake news, suicide bombers are already here.
Posted by: Mortimer | June 19, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Why do people use word conquer? I don’t understand that. America did not go to Irag just so it can conquer the region to get the oil. What about Saddam Hussein? He was cutting heads off peole. What do you think of that? Harsh. We liberated the peole from oppression for God sakes. The reason why U.S. went to Iraq was to stablize part of that region. Once it is stablized then we can hand the responsibility to them. It’s that simple. People, start coming up with solutions instead of coming up with critism.
Posted by: James Brown | June 19, 2007, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
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Sooo, Mortimer & Co.,I suggest that you and all your minions in the democrat party just take the ostrich stance,
stick your heads back in the sand and hope & prey that it will all just go away. Won’t work?? Why not?? That’s been tried by your party for decades. It’s bound to work someday. Don’t you reckon?
Posted by: poysunivy | June 19, 2007, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
The real truth of the matter is that we are a nation that is divided. This is our real issue at hand. The extremist understand this and see that we have become a very disconnected nation. Lazy, fat and very brain washed. Wake up and stand for one nation under God. The insanity is fighting amongst one another.
Blessed Love
Posted by: Robby Holmes | June 19, 2007, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Here’s a quote that fits:
All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
Posted by: Bzr3145 | June 19, 2007, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Exactly, txpenguin. They’re here, because we’re there.
Posted by: Ramses | June 19, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
The ignorance of comments like those of Eyes Wide Open continue to amaze me. Anyone that thinks this is anything other than a religious war hasn’t read the Bible because it records it all from the beginning. If anyone wants to read something interesting they should get a copy of “Late Great Planet Earth” written by Hal Lindsey in 1969.
Posted by: daileylady | June 19, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I love it how some of you blame corporate America for all the world’s problems. While I agree you are correct and corporations are responsible for many of the world’s ills…..who do you think runs these corporations? Some alien entity? LOL. You, me, your neighbor next door! Get the point? Everybody loves to criticize corporate America but WE ARE corporate America! WAKE UP! All your little 401ks, trips to fast food joints, gasoline in your car, soaps and detergents from china. Your new college graduate that landed that 9-5 job with great benefits!!!!!!!! It’s one big beast that is not going away soon. We are all interconnected. Boycott Wallstreet and you might send a message to corporate America. Boycott Walmart, Exxon, and Pepsico and you might change things.
Posted by: Nick | June 19, 2007, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
@Trevor
First of all it is their oil… not there oil. This is basic grammar.
Second of all, the initial oil contracts from Iraq did not go to US companies so do some basic research before spouting off.
Lastly, it is extremely ironic to accuse Bush of being greedy and in the very next sentence say that you are voting for John Edwards, a slip and fall lawyer.
Posted by: Fred | June 19, 2007, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
@Tony
I am passionate about defeating the Jihadists and I am not in the military… however, I am doing my part to support them in my own way. What are you doing?
Using your logic, if you do not support the US military then you should leave the Country. This of course is a tired and asinine viewpoint.
Posted by: Fred | June 19, 2007, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Hey joe, the second amendment joe, go to thomasloc.gov and type in H.R 1022. read this bill and then tell us to pick up our guns. If certain members of Congress have their way about it you won’t have a gun or ammunition to fight any terrorist with. foreign or domestic. wake up, smell the coffee people look at whats going on right now in congress and then look at the last 30 years. Iraq and the others , while a real part of the new world order, are just a snow job. claude
Posted by: claude westervelt | June 19, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Some have very short memories and little or no knowledge of history. The terrorists began their attacks on us in 1979, during President Jimmy Carter’s ineffective presidency – the Iran Embassy Hostages fiasco in which the current president of Iran participated actively. Three blows occutrred during the Reagan presidency – Beirut, Lebanon Embassy in 1983, Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks in 1983 and Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York in 1988. The First New York WTC attack was in 1993 during Bush I. During Bill Clinton’s “reign” there were 4 attacks – Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military Complex in 1996, Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy in 1998, Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embass in 1998 and Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000. There has been only one attack during Bush II – the NY WTC and the Pentagon in 2001.
Folks, we are past due and it is gonna happen one of these days.
Posted by: Dawn | June 19, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I’ve noticed 4 or 5 people calling for the American government to command its military to drop a nuke on “one of them Middle Eastern countries” to teach a lesson to the rest of them. This is apparently prompted solely by the news that some poor Afghani farmers who have lost their livelihoods and possibly their family members have pledged to squeeze their way into Europe and North America and blow themselves up in some busy place. Some say drop the nukes now – others say only if they succeed.
I’m supportive of the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan because they hosted and supported the terrorists who killed 3000 people. If stopping that poor Afghani farmer means kiling him, I wouldn’t hesitate. That’s the horror of war. I doubt he would ever get near my country though. I have a brother fighting in Afghanistan right now with the Canadian military, and I am really worried about his safety – not mine.
But I just want to understand this clearly – you are talking about killing millions and millions of non-military people of various individual ethnic backgrounds, political beliefs and religions. This you would do in response to the admittedly tragic loss of a few hundred or a few thousand civilians, possibly even a member of your family or my sister perhaps.
I remember after 9/11 I saw a lot of Americans saying similar things on CNN before anyone really knew who was behind it – “we should just nuke one of those countries and that’ll fix it.”
It’s true that conditions for most individuals, the majority of whom are Muslims I suppose, in many parts of the Middle East are and have been difficult for a very long time. It’s an environment that has produced a kind of deep fatalism that us plump and jolly Americans and Canadians find hard to understand. Many point the finger at western government interference in their affairs as the cause of all their woes, and they probably have a point, but I believe the turmoil there probably stems from much more than that. And, although I’m not a cultural expert, I do know that the area’s difficulties have produced a small cult of crazy, violent lunatics who really do want to kill or control everything they can gain influence over. They are able to recruit various desperate people to their cause for various reasons. Strapping a bomb to yourself or a family member and sending them off to explode, and feeling justified and okay about that, is really beyond the comprehension of anyone in our society except the home-grown lunatics we’ve produced such as the V-Tech killer and the Columbine kids. We scratch our heads and wonder about them too, but I don’t see anyone calling for nukes to be dropped on any of our universities.
I know it’s not a skin colour thing so it’s not about racism – is it a Christian/Muslim thing? The nukes I mean, and you wanting to drop them on cities? Is it “For every one of us they kill, we kill a million of them” because you believe that all of the people living in a specific geographic region, vaguely defined by you, are “sub-human”? Is that the logic? I just want to get the logic straight.
Do you not know that if you ever succeed at convincing your government to drop a nuke on a Middle Eastern country, you will pretty much have handed Al Qaeda the victory they are desperately seeking? That would be the beginning of the “end of days” so many Christian and Muslim religious fringe fanatics talk about so much. I’m a Christian who prays I never see a nuke dropped on any city in my lifetime. You have to try your best to empathize with your enemy to defeat your enemy – the goal is to end the war, to END the killing – not to kill everyone or achieve success under the threat of doing so. Even during WWII people were uncomfortable with the city bombings. And now look at you. This is what happens when technology meets stupidity and ignorance. And, you know, no one would have given idiot comments like these any attention before, thinking no one that stupid would ever have their index finger near the button. And then along came Dubya, his host of idiot advisers, and the past 7 years. Since then, whenever I see nuking comments like these, I feel the urge to respond in detail. And so I have.
Posted by: Tom | June 19, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
The US supported th most extremist muslim groups in the middle east throughout the 1950′s (Iran), 60′s (Arab countries), 70′s (Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia) and 80′s (Afghanistan), and now that islamic militants have matured, right wingers want to murder the civilian populations of middle eastern countries
to stop the muslim militants.
The double standards are disgusting.
Posted by: mikehampton | June 19, 2007, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Yes, there were suicide bombers prior to 9/11 and Bush’s election. Yes, Muslin extremists need little reason to hate us. Yes, the next world war will be over religion, just as one of the earliest world wars was — remember how Islamic fundamentalists invaded Europe in the 8th and 9th centuries and almost overran all of Christendom? It’s all happening, again.
What the right wing Bush-babies keep refusing to acknowledge, however, is we had a chance to end this in Afghanistan. And if not end it, at least set it back to being less of a threat and more of a nuisance. We had the world’s support over our toppling of the Taliban. We had Osama bin Laden cornered in the mountains. WE had al Qaeda on the run. And what did Bush and company do? They stopped seriously pursuing the man who’d attacked us and, instead, lied the American people into supporting the invasion of a country that had NO ties to al Qaeda, NO ties to bin Laden, NO weapons of mass destruction, NO nuclear program, NO ability to defend itself and had done NOTHING to us. And they did this in the face of massive evidence contrary to all their claims, and knowing that the world would not support such an invasion and with full awareness that the sanctions against Iraq were working.
You can defend Bush all you want, but the fact is — he’s a criminal. Him and all his administration. And thanks to him, al Qaeda is now stronger than ever. Terrorism is on the rise. Iraq is in a state of collapse and will probably wind up becoming the next Iran. Egypt will probably turn Islamic fundamentalist soon as Mubarak dies. Lebanon is verging on civil war, again. Iran is chasing nuclear weapons. Russia is turning against us, once more. And nitwits like those on this thread who still support that idiot in office continue to berate and shout down anyone who dares say he should be taken to task for it.
Posted by: Jemmytee | June 19, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
jihad was declare before bush was president.. DO you remember the towers?
do you remember the USS Cole. remember 911 911 was planed before bush. yes bush sucks
Posted by: Bud | June 19, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
War never solved anything! Well, except for slavery, nazism, facism…
Posted by: TheInfamousPropellerhead | June 19, 2007, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
The world is coming to an end, slowly but surely. We are living in the last days. Nothing will ever be the same again. Things are only going to get worse. I just pray we are all right with God and stand firm on his word. Like it or not, God is the one and only who will have the last say so. Will you follow him? Peace and Blessings to us all!
Posted by: Jacque | June 19, 2007, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
How can the President of a country openly state for the destruction of another country and get away with it ? Imagine if Bush said that about Iran or any nation for that matter. If we leave Iraq it will be a great sign of weakness and things will get worse than they already are. 9/11 was the start of WW 3 as far as I’m concerned so it’s kill or be killed. Thats the choice we have like it or not.They will never stop their jihad so lets get it on !! We have no other choice.
Posted by: jack | June 19, 2007, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
These new suicide bombers will have no problem getting into the US. American State Dept. officials in the Middle East will be instructed to expedite their visa/passport requests, just as they were told to do with the terrorists of 9/11.
Bush’s new proclamation of martial law directives in the event of a national emergency, which would appoint him as America’s dictator and is posted on the White House web site, should be a clear indication that he is behind this new development.
He is orchestrating a 9/11 sequel, which will enable him to become king George of America. The Bush family has had a 20yr relationship with the Bin Laden family. Bush orchestrated 9/11, and now Bush is planning the complete take over of America with the threat of these suicide bombers.
They will be allowed to enter the country and they will be allowed to succeed, just as they were allowed to do on 9/11.
Posted by: Jimmy Swindell | June 19, 2007, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
I am concerned at the seeming level of incompetence throughout the Bush administration
The Dept of Homeland Security seems to be entirely fluff…
I cant tell if this is a guise they are deliberately portraying to draw in the terrorists…or its really as bad as it seems
Posted by: major | June 19, 2007, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Don’t worry, they won’t “follow us home” until we leave Iraq, and since we’re never leaving Iraq…
The level of ignorance about this conflict in this country is staggering.
Posted by: So Left I'm Right | June 19, 2007, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
IF YOU ARE REALLY CONCERNED about terrorism in the USA, it is URGENT that you phone and/or email the idiots in the senate (republicans and democrats) who are regurgitating the “amnesty bill” which will pave the way for unprecedented mass-immigration (and legalization of the current illegals already here). You can be sure terrorists who are adopting hispanic surnames will be on board! Never mind the impact millions of uneducated immigrants will have on the infrastructure of this country or the fact that they cost US taxpayers $1,000,000 EACH during their lifetime in socialist giveaway programs. TELL YOUR SENATORS TO KILL THE AMNESTY BILL, CLOSE THE BORDERS — OR THEY’RE FIRED!
Jim
Posted by: Jim | June 20, 2007, 12:18 am 12:18 am
how convenient that terrorists are once again making noises just as Sy Hersh’s article about General Taguba’s attempts to get the Bush administration to take action on the torture chambers they licensed when they said the Geneva Conventions are “quaint.”
wake up, people. the “jfk” terrorists took over the news cycle when Gonzales’ politization of the AG office (including vote caging via Griffith/Rove) was the subject Americans should have paid attention to.
they knew about the 9-11 plot before it happened. how many nations warned them? egypt, germany, france, israel, russia, at the least. anyone who thinks this administration cares about anything but their own profits should go back and look at pictures of the dead floating on the streets of New Orleans.
Posted by: don'tbefooledagain | June 20, 2007, 12:18 am 12:18 am
It’s working! You are all scared and are not enjoying being truly free. I guess they are winning this war on “Terror”.
Posted by: Hans | June 20, 2007, 1:39 am 1:39 am
As a Canadian, I say bring it.
You want to play hard ball? We can play hard ball. We helped take down the Nazies and the Japanese and Italy in WW2 and we are supposed to be scared of a bunch of punks with a pipe bomb.
We will see who will win. We will. The good guys do win sometimes.
Posted by: Steve G | June 20, 2007, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Bush wasn’t to blame for 9/11 but his poor handling of events since had mad many moderates hate the west. The real problem is the USA and there long history of arming one side against the other. That is the skeleton in your closet. During the Iran/Iraq war Saddam Hussein was helped by the USA. Poor world policy decisions by the US government for generations has cuased the problems we see today. Look in the news of supposed Middle East allies and the west is always being condemned.
Posted by: Shawn | June 20, 2007, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Wow, Seiously, Alot of the world’s terrorists come from Pakistan and most even train their, Yet pakistan is an ally in the war against terror. We should be destroying pakistan Instead. What the Hell. And they threatened Canada, thats a big problem right there. Who in the world has ever threatened a peace loving country like Canada. These people must be PURE EVIL. WHy isnt the US airforce bombarding these guyz with bombs. Why are they able to go out on an open field and film a tape, we should have eyes on every inch of soil in afhganistan.
Posted by: Martin | June 20, 2007, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Don’t tell me no one noticed the camouflage suits wearing full grown men armed with machineguns doing crowd control on those kids? (You can see in the video the main bulk of the teams exist of kids!!!). Those men are facing the groups of jihadists, why!? They should be there because of their own free will, at least that is what I would expect from suicide bombers. The fact that those men in camouflage suits are not facing the man who’s doing the speech but keeping the crowd in check is basically what makes me doubt this seriously..
Why am I saying I don’t trust the set up is also because:
1. it would be terribly hard to get kids as young as twelve travelling alone to a foreign country all by themselves where they supposedly should commit suicide.
2. kids (their main bulk of suicide bombers) are easy to manage/direct, easier then full grown men and easier impressed
3. you can see the faces of some of the kids who would be sent off to the foreign countries to do their suicide attacks.
If this was just a propaganda set up, it got to me to be honest. And no I’m not afraid because my country was named in the video’s, but because my country (the Netherlands) has soldiers based there, I fear for their lives. This is not without reason, there has been an increase in Dutch casualties lately.
I think they used this video as propaganda material, but the threat of domestic suicide bombings will increase as times passes. I just hope there won’t be anymore (Dutch) casualties among our soldiers there.
Posted by: Masler | June 20, 2007, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Martin, it’s in Pakistan most likely. Where’s an AC-130 Spectre when you need one…
Posted by: douglas | June 20, 2007, 3:15 am 3:15 am
Clinton had the hots Bush seemed cold (at first) now he’s hot for war.{A war he claim ended over four years ago????}
No one knows what’s going on. Including nearly all of you guys. War is coming….. to America’s demise!!! There’s nothing anyone can do about it. Troops, W, Clinton. No one. There won’t be any questions of who’s in charge then.
So called “Atheist” will call out for mercy. The well to do educated elite will humble themselves just for a morsel of food if they find themselves blessed enough to be alive at all.
The Pride of America and their hyporcritical, separatist, self-righteous, selfish ways are soon to be exposed by complete moranic idiots!!!!
Posted by: JustPerfectTiming | June 20, 2007, 3:31 am 3:31 am
This thing began with Sirhan Sirhan, and history has tried to hide this fact. One year to the day of the 67 six day war. That was the first attack on America.
Posted by: daniel william | June 20, 2007, 3:36 am 3:36 am
This is something that was bound to happen to us. Did you actually think this could only happen in Europe. Start renting “Red Dawn” we are in for a fight against people that love death. You can thank President Carter for helping getting rid of the Shah of Iran who was Pro American to be replaced with the Extremist Ayatollah Khomeini. Im ready and waiting for them are YOU.
Posted by: iggy | June 20, 2007, 4:18 am 4:18 am
If you really want to undertand why they want to kill us — then read it directly from the horses mouth – former terrorist turned tell all author Walid Shoebat – his book “Why We Want To Kill You” .
It has nothing to do with “western imperialism” and everything to do with secular liberalism: that truth is what liberals and the MSM refuse to believe because it bursts their bubble of political correctness.
According to Shoebat – all reformed terrorists where heavily influenced by Christian teachings and converted to Christianity. Secularism has no positive influence on them. Full stop. When they can be helped to understand the futility of salvation through mass suicide-homicides but rather through Christ – then they are more likely to change their ways.
This inconvenient truth upsets liberal secularists and their mouthpiece aka the MSM – so they deflect by blaming Bush, Republicans, and “imperialism”.
And for those who will undoubtedly insist I must be a Christian – let me shatter your illusions now.
Posted by: Harley | June 20, 2007, 7:55 am 7:55 am
One Western based mosque should be blown up for every Westerner killed in a suicide attack. That’ll make them think twice.
Posted by: Marc | June 20, 2007, 8:31 am 8:31 am
It takes a mainstream media web blog to see all the superpatriot nuke Iran, Arabs are subhuman, rapture nonsense! How many of you idiots post daily to “Little Green Footballs” and “Free Republic”? Gosh I love to know that so many of my fellow Americans want to kill anyone who doesn’t agree with us? Bravo! Maybe we ought to nuke the world and start over!
Posted by: funkydo | June 20, 2007, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Ummmmmm. Excuse me, but wasn’t Ronald Raygun Pres when the marines’ barracks in Lebanon was blown up? And didn’t we pull all our troops out after that? Was RR a surrender monkey?
Posted by: Alice Andrews | June 20, 2007, 9:29 am 9:29 am
I just finished one of the most humbling and touching books I’ve ever read, “Why They Hate,” by Brigitte Gabriel, a Lebanese journalist now living in America, who is a survivor of Radical Islam during the Lebanese Civil War of 1975-1990. I think all Americans, regardless of political party, should read her book and learn something for a change. Her childhood was a living hell. She is extremely knowledgable on Middle Eastern culture and the threat the world faces from Radical Islam. It is a quick read because it is so powerful and well written. It is written in two parts – both a story of her life in Lebanon and her lesson on Radical Islam and its goals to defeat and conquer the West, and all infidels.
I admit I do not have the “great solution.” I believe only GOD has control. I think all man made solutions, whether diplomatic or military, are only temporary at best.
Posted by: kid bertha | June 20, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am
I want a President that will not only bring our troops home, but put our troops to work patroling and securing our own borders. Put our troops in the airports, bus terminals, water treatment plants, etc. Yes, we are at that point folks. Lets wake up and patrol our United States to keep our children and families safe. That is the President I want in office. I also say NO! to trucks coming over here from Mexico freely. That opens the door to terrorists getting into our borders.
Posted by: Gail | June 20, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Regarding 9/11 if anyone of you would be a little less ignorant would know that the American Government planned and carried out the so called “terrorist” attack in Nyc. Why you ask? Well to achieve a nice little strangle hold on the united states people through fear. And have them behind them when they go to war with Afghanistan and Iraq. Id love to through in some facts, but just do a little research here and there.
Posted by: Mrquestion | June 20, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Something to think about.
I do a radio show in Kansas City. One recent guest on my show. A sheriff in the Texas Sheriff’s Border coalition sent me some of their intel. They are finding orange colored military jumpsuits that have been discarded along our border, just inside the USA. The patches and style of writing used on these patches suggest that some of the people coming into our country could possibly be mercenaries, not unlike the French foreign legion or our own Blackwater mercenaries. They suggest it could possibly be a unit that was exiled from Syria and have taken up operations in Libya.
The fact is there have been and always will be individuals that can be adopted into terrorist organizations and can be raised up in a philosophy that permits that taking of human life, their own included.
Many of these kids in these organizations are orphans from the long protracted wars whether in Rwanda, Somalia, the west bank, Iraq/Iran, or even the blighted islamic communities that are springing up in places like France or Germany. The problem is largely economic. Look at the more successful countries, like Jordan, that are predominantly islamic and the level of recruitment is much lower and is not as popular. Just look at HAMAS and how they won the peoples support. They were busy tending to the local peoples needs. Water,sewer,food, schools,etc.
Simply, when one loses their livelihood or their family because of unrelenting air strikes or they become imprisoned because of outside influence. Say US/CIA backing of a puppet dictator and the ensuing corrupt proxy government that causes such things, it suddenly becomes much easier for those who are affected and who are despondent to adopt a philosophy of revenge or as the CIA calls it Blowback.
However, it would help us enormously if we would protect our borders and stay completely out of the affairs of hostile nations. We need to invetigate with renewed vigor, organizations that attempt to entangle our nation with the affairs of other nations.
Groups like the CFR,TLC and the PNAC are not acting in accordance with our constitution. Members of our government who belong to these groups should be held accountable, regardless if they be the GOP or the DEMS.
Posted by: jason | June 20, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am
If Clinton is to blame for not capturing Bin Laden, why didn’t Bush kill or capture him in the six months he was recieving constant warnings that Bin Laden would attack? You can’t believe that Clinton should have caught him and then excuse Bush for doing absolutely bupkus.
Secondly, the terrorists would attack us no matter what, but…
A)the more chaos that we cause with our military adventures the more people will have a reason to turn to terrorism.
B)Why should we provide them an opportunity to attack our soldiers in Iraq, when we are not achieving anything positive there?
It seems to me that we can use military force against terrorists, but the “kill em all and let god sort em out” approach that we have towards the mid-east is not only counter-productive, but clearly crazy and evil.
Posted by: Joe | June 20, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am
“You can thank President Carter for helping getting rid of the Shah of Iran”
Typical of the uneducated American moron posting here. Carter didn’t get rid of the Shah of Iran. The Iranian people did, after being fed up by his despotic, tyrannnical rule over them.
This illustrates perfectly why The US is is such a downward spiral- dimwitted half-wits regurgitating right-wing radio talking points and voting republican.
“Red Dawn” indeed.
Posted by: Sheik Yerbouti | June 20, 2007, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
iggy- you need to read a little more history. the cia overthrew the DEMOCRATICALLY elected prez of Iran, Mossedegh, and installed the Shah in the 1950s because Mossedegh was going to nationalize Iranian oil. The Shah’s secret police were as bad if not worse than Saddam.
That was Kermit Roosevelt and Angleton and Dulles…Carter was just the one in office when Islamic nationalism was able to muster enough support to overthrow the Shah. Could’ve would’ve happened with any person in office.
The U.S. should never have gotten into the assassination of elected leaders business. That’s the source of much of the problems today. The U.S. should have never messed with arming both Iran and Iraq during their war.
The current world situation is called “blowback.”
If only Americans weren’t so stupid about their own history, maybe they wouldn’t make a bad situation worse. Bush has been a disaster. We are now a nation that openly tortures innocent people with no consequence for the leaders that create this policy.
Bush et al manipulate the American ppl while they rob you blind. When will folks wake up?? Listen to Ron Paul, he’s telling some truth, just like Dean did. And, of course, the media lapdogs did all they could to sideline Dean. Watch what they do to Paul.
I weep for what my country has become since Reagan was in office. Or maybe the difference is that I became educated about the real world.
Posted by: don'tbefooledagain | June 20, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
WHATEVER the reasons were for getting into this quagmire; the fact is WE”RE IN IT!
How we deal with it and what we do next to win is the ONLY realistic way of thinking.
So what do we do if there is another 9/11 disaster only this time on a bigger scale…like say a nuke in some capacity that has the potential to kill millions and leave say the entire eastern half of North America uninhabitable for the half life of some radioactive isotope of say.. 100 years!!
WHAT do we do to prevent THAT very real possibility?
Do we wait and sit on our collective ‘politically correct’ little hands?
Does it take something like this happening BEFORE preventative action is taken?
THEN is too late.
Will it take another even bigger 9/11 before we do the most cost effective and most sure fire secure thing which is to deport ALL muslims who have any identifiable terrorist leanings and put the rest in internment camps for the duration of this war the way we did the Japanese during WW11.
Not pretty but SAFE.
Posted by: Monty | June 20, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
It is amusing to see how frightened some of you americans get when faced with the prospect of a few children trying to be suicide bombers somwhere near you. It is frightening because you see people dying in this act. Before your very own eyes. Even someone you love maybe. Frightening?
Sure it is. But it is nothing compared to what your military does to them. Many many deaths many many suffering, only you do not see that. It is not your pain so u dont care. Some of you think you are the cream of the world but in fact you are just plain racist.
But this news is just a hoax, of course, so relax and dry off your pants :) you scared scared americans…
Posted by: Livia | June 20, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
this isnt something that has been the cause of pres. g.w. bush. while he has been a flawed president. there has been a form of islam for over one thousand years who has want to put a stop to western civilazation.
what scares me is, how close the similarities are to the end of rome. this country needs to stand up, and take control of what is rightfully ours. i dont mean that in a militant way. but my generation (the 20 somethings) need to stop complaining and stand up and voice our opinions (write to your politicians, tell them what YOU want..they work for the people).
so instead of complaining…lets voice our opinions before we wont have a voice to use.
Posted by: neal | June 20, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Livia, North Americans are not scared in the childish way you describe it…just prudent in the historical sense. Keep pushing and history WILL repeat itself.
Ask the Germans or the Japanese at the end of WW11 who ended up being scared.
Posted by: Monty | June 20, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
abc news is crap, mainstream news is crap, its all decided by ratings instead of what it claims, investigative journalism. crap, crap, fear, then more crap. i agree with olivia, scared fools. use google, use the internet, go to a different countries news page and see what they say for a change.
why is abc blocking my comments?
Posted by: john o'neil | June 20, 2007, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Guess what you people? Terrorist camps, terrorist cells, terrorist training, have deep roots of United States. the US knew and instigated terrorism. . The US did nothing to stop it, in fact they trained terrorists. Come oin, the US is greatly at fault in allowing and planting roots in terrorism. US politicians don’t care, look at them, all they have to do is go down to their bunker and wait it out, whilst the rest of us die.
Posted by: becky | June 20, 2007, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Oh my God, here we go again with the stop the Communists “over there” or they will take over America, days of Johnson-Nixon. Over 58,000 dead soldiers, billions of spent tax dollars, huge Corporation oil profits, huge Corporate defense profits, larger government, a grandiose defense budget and since we ran away in defeat from that phony war I’m still waiting for the Commies to show up at my doorstep. Today the enemy du jour is Islam. Coincidence they sit over much of the worlds energy supply? Is this new war to keep Islam off our shores or for total control of trillions of dollars worth of the worlds oil and natural gas? Any guesses, oh wise drones?
Posted by: Ricardo | June 20, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Take it easy everyone!
Everyone take a deep breath or two
then turn on your TV sets and watch the latest news about Senorita Paris Hilton
or some other celebrity and then
watch one of the reality shows to put you to sleep at night.
Why? This is just one class of graduates that plans on coming over here. Think about the who knows how many other groups that have previously graudated and come over here over the past years!!!
Just be prepared for any future disasters because you can only rely on yourselves.
Posted by: Night Rider | June 20, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
One thing’s for sure, dumbbell. In the race for stupidity, we can’t hold a candle to you dimocrats who voted bill clinton into office, not once, but twice. How stupid can that be???
Posted by: poysunivy | June 20, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
So many idiots, so little time. The democrats like to spew out the garbage that Bush lied about the WMD’s in Iraq. What a surprise!!! This is what the democrats ran on during the last election and, you gotta hand it to them. They stick to their guns whether right or wrong.
The only “surprise” here is that, if Bush lied , then there’s a horde of democrats who believed the same information about the WMD’s that the Bush administration did. This list goes like this…Joe Lieberman Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Miluski, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Bob Graham, Harold Ford, Bob Graham, Tom Harkin, Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger, Barbara Boxer, Robert Byrd, Wesley Clark, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Carl Levin, Patty Murray, Nancy Pelosi, John Rockefeller & Henry Waxman. All of these democrats made statements similar to the one that Barbara Boxer made on November 8, 2002 which states…”Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement.”
Joe Wilson was the one who made the first claim that Bush lied when it was he who was lying so that John Kerry would win the ’04 election and Wilson would be named Secretary of State. So, if Bush lied, they all lied. Or, on the other hand, they all believed that Saddam had WMD’s, therefore, one of many reasons to go after him, when he ignored all those toothless resolutions made by the hapless, inept, and corrupt United Nations. The main problem that the democrats have with Bush and this war is that he defeated them twice in elections and he IS the president. If Clinton was president, they would have absolutely no problem with it. The democrats criticize Bush for doing too little prior to 9/11 and for doing too much after 9/11. The porridge is always either too cold or too hot. If there is another terrorist attack in the U.S., the democrats will surely flip back to saying Bush hasn’t been doing enough. If this wasn’t serious business, it would be laughable
Posted by: poysunivy | June 20, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
First off, I would like to mention a few facts. This war is 28 years old. It started with the Iranian hostage crisis on 11/04/79 in Teheran. Your fabulous president was Jimmie Carter.
Check this out. Then came…
2) the U.S. Marine Barracks in Beirut on 10/23/83
3) TWA Flt847 6/24/85 in Athens
4) Achille Lauro hijacking on 10/7/85 in Egypt
5) Pan Am 103 on 12/21/88 Lockerbie
6) World Trade Center bombing 2/26/93 in New York(first one)
7) Khobar Towers, Saudi Arabia on 6/25/96
8) U.S. Embassy bombings Tanzania & Kenya on 8/7/98
9)USS Cole bombing, Yemen on 10/12/00
10)the attack on the World Trade Center on 9/11/01.
Lots of lives lost in those events, but the most brutal was the Trade Center attacks which killed 3000 people in about 2 hours. That’s as many as we’ve lost in Iraq in almost 5 years. You can blame Bush all you want, but you can also leave your head buried in the sand.
Posted by: poysunivy | June 20, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
I remember watching c-span two years ago
Dem senator Frank Lautenberg was speaking at Syracuse University about the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland.
His son who aattended Syracuse U, was suppose to be oon that flight with his fellow ccollege classmates but at the last second changed his mind and took another flight.
I find it odd that of all those people who parished that day, one, who just happened to be a senators son, decides at the last minute not to take that flight.
Was Lautenberg warned? Did he give his son a heads up? I believe Lockerbie and the other bombings were done just to get America’s minds on terrorism.
Fast forward to 9/11 and it’s fear, fear, Muslims, fear, fear, fear. Terrorism by definition is to instill fear in people. I would say that our own government is the worst terrorists of them all!
PSSST: 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
Posted by: X-Factor-7 | June 20, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Hey, if we’re going to go back in Mr. Peabody’s time machine…let’s go back one step further. I think prior to the hostage situation directed by Ayatollah Khomeini Iran had just come out from under the dictatorship of the Shah put into place by the US. You see, just as there was a probable cause for 9/11, there was also a probable cause for the hostage situation.
Why do we always feel so innocently victimized and selective in remembering what we may have done as a nation to incur the wrath of other countries we have insulted, injured, insurrected or invaded?
That’s a good human, Sherman!
Posted by: waswas | June 20, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
To have peace someone must stop fighting first..We need to use diplomacy or fear becoming worse than the enemy. Time everyone minds their own p”s and q’s. To bad this global neighbourhood cant get along. The Imperial fist has had its hand in the middle east for too long…and now the heat is getting to hot to handle…There have always been extremist…but the current foriegn policies our government support creates more…do unto others…remember that one?
Posted by: chooch | June 20, 2007, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
And…”reap what you sow”.
Anyone remember that one?
Posted by: waswas | June 20, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
what we see is the fight of good vs. evil, neither side here is good or evil, threw the US eyes they are good, and the opposition evil, threw extremists eyes they are good and the US is evil, no one is right, no one is wrong. they are our brothers in the fight for human existence, we must stop pointing the finger at each other and look closer at how “evil”-if i may use the word correctly- capitalism is and what it has done to hinder the state of human existence, as animals not as individuals. damn humans!
Posted by: ahjusahappyguy | June 20, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
If you are going throw crap out about how we should end fighting by using peace tactics then remember that we were at peace with Iraq until THEY ATTCKED US. Now you can complain all you want but i think that this war is not all Bush’s fault but also the initial 9/11 attack on U.S soil and the continuing democratit hand holding the U.S army back from ending this war with a small three month’s of full seige on the Iraqi extremest.
Posted by: zach | June 20, 2007, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Sounds like another Brian Ross fearmongering story! He has done this before and from the looks of the response he achieved what he was trying to do, scare alot of sheep oops I meant people. Start thinking about what ABC reports as news folks!
Posted by: Skeptical | June 20, 2007, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Since when did war mean we have to give a crap who was killed around where the bad guys are, thats our main problem now instead of war its become a media thing, I say heck with that lets just do a all out war and end this chit once and for all….
Posted by: Tracy | June 20, 2007, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Of course what ABC doesn’t report is that the guys video recording these “graduated terrorist” are their CIA handlers.
Posted by: ABCCIA | June 20, 2007, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Some people are just so ignorant. People, Muslims were attacking American ships at the very beginning of this country. Muslims’ hatred for the west has been very alive, at least since the crusades. We’re talking about a group of people who talk as if the crusades were yesterday. And I am talking about Muslims in the Muslim world and Muslim extremists/terrorists elsewhere.
Read what some of our founding fathers found out about Muslims when they went and asked why they kept attacking American/western ships:
The “command” to Believers to engage in “perpetual war” — performed “alike by fraud or by force” – against the Infidels, the Unbelievers, was no secret to the well-traveled (St. Petersburg, among other places he was stationed) and well-read John Quincy Adams. In a previous article Bostom had quoted John Quincy Adams comparing the essence of Christian doctrine with the essence of Islam.
This was John Quincy Adams on Islam:
“Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST; TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Capitals in original)…Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant…While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.”
And Adams concluded:
“As the essential principle of his [Muhammad’s] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.”
In a recent article prompted by his reading of Joshua London’s Victory in Tripoli, Andrew Bostom, who compiled The Legacy of Jihad, adduces from London’s text a number of telling descriptions of Islam and of Muslims by some of the most important figures in American history. Two of them were Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, in 1786 ambassadors (Jefferson in Paris, Adams in London) from the newly-established American Republic still under the Articles of Confederation (the Treaty of Paris had been signed in 1783, the Constitution was ratified only in 1787). They had a meeting with the representative of Tripolitania (present-day Libya) then in the Great Britain, Sidi Haji Rahmand Adja. Like other Christian maritime powers, the American state had suffered from the state-piracy of Muslim corsairs. The word “piracy” implies mere seeking at random for booty, and is inadequate to describe the formal system by which Muslim corsairs had for centuries been making war on Christian shipping, with the foreknowledge (indeed, often registering in advance either the places their ships would be going, or what Infidel shipping they intended to attack) and support of the Muslim rulers of the North African states — which, in turn, were ostensibly under the control of the Ottoman rulers in Istanbul.
Both Jefferson and Adams were learned men. Take a tour in Quincy or at Monticello and look at their libraries, and then imagine the reading material that sustains the current, or the last few, American presidents. But they had no reason to know about Islam. They were interested in the civilization of the West, to which they belonged. Islam was merely a disturbing and violent intruder, to south and east, of that West. The notion that someday Muslims in the Western world would be insisting that the Western world owed so much to Islam, that the Renaissance was practically a Muslim invention, that without Islam the great civilization of the Western world was unthinkable, would have been regarded by them as what it is: absurdity, from first to last, a travesty of history.
But did they know much about what prompted Muslim behavior? No. So they asked why the Barbary states (present-day Morocco, Algerian, Tunisia, and Libya) would continually attack American and all other Infidel shipping, seize the cargoes and the sailors, taking both back to Islamic lands and enslaving those Christian seamen who sometimes could be ransomed, sometimes not. So they asked the ambassador, Mr. Adja, why the Muslims of the Maghrib, the “Barbary pirates” as they were known in the West, did as they did.
He had no trouble answering them, as the report written by Jefferson and Adams to the Continental Congress shows:
“…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
ME: Now, that was, without any doubt whatsoever, the way Muslims believed back then. I ask you again – have Muslims changed their doctrine since then?
Continued:
Nothing surprising here to any contemporary Muslim, though many will wish that Americans will never read that paragraph above, especially since it was written by two of the Founders, two of the Framers of that Constitution which is so flatly contradicted by the principles and Holy Law of Islam. It is easy to denounce this or that about Islam today by our far left extremists, but not quite so easy for them to denounce or attempt to belittle a report written by Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.
When we are attacked again, I feel sorry for our far left gay extremists who have continuely took our enemy’s side and helped them in many ways, even going so far as to pretend Muslim extremists/terrorists do not exist. They have divided this country, making us much weaker for attacks, that’s for sure. I am afraid that many in this country will start attacking the far left gay extremists in this country b/c of the many ways they have hurt this country.
Posted by: Debbie | June 20, 2007, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Elections are behind the corner and they are trying to scare us “again”…
After creatinsg thousands of terrorist and directing all the Al Queda crap now they have to scare us again… Their scare tactics are old and good only for repubblican’s yahoos that still believe in this stupid propaganda…
AMERICA WAKE UP!!!!
Posted by: Alex | June 21, 2007, 12:58 am 12:58 am
It never ceases to amaze me that the yellow bellied democrats seem to think that diplomacy will work with these terrorists. Yeah, Right. Why don’t we just use the Rodney King approach of “W-w-why c-c-can’t w-we all j-j-ust g-g-get a-a-l-l-long?” It works everytime. It was all the polices’ fault that he was driving drunk and did not want to be arrested. So, a riot was held by all and LA was clobbered. Worked, huh? You democrats should try having your heads retracted from your rearends.
Posted by: poysunivy | June 21, 2007, 1:33 am 1:33 am
The point is that by invading Afghanistan and Iraq we have exacerbated an unwinnable, hopeless situation and alienated virtually the entire Muslim world. That was stupid. You find terrorists now all over the world, also in friendly countries, America itself and Europe. That’s what we should have been concentrating, but it may well be too late to eradicate the problem now. By trying to destroy the so-called “trainings-camps” for terrorists, the civilian populations in those countries will be the victims of these onslaughts (often cowardly from the air; ) which will only generate more and more resistance and recruitment from an nigh inexhaustable population source, as we are witnessing to-day in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
The military solution therefore is a self-defeating and self-destroying solution, it has been proven over and over again that it doesn’t work.
Posted by: Tom Van Meurs | June 21, 2007, 2:52 am 2:52 am
They were not dealt with when we had the chance. Now these guys are everywhere and pretty soon nowhere will be safe. I am beginning to think that this terror group is more of an ideology than a sect. A sect we can deal with and ideology takes more time.
Posted by: neria sebastien | June 21, 2007, 6:56 am 6:56 am
laugh at you cowards, feel the free pain and live like serpents in the land of oz.
Posted by: MIKE | June 21, 2007, 8:06 am 8:06 am
God warned us in Leviticus 26 verse 16 that he would appoint terror over us for disobedience to His laws. Look around at our decadent society. It is high time people wake up and start believing the Word of God and living by every word of it before it is too late.
Quit puting forth the finger of blame and start taking personal responsibility. Look to the example of Ninevah, and then to that of Sodom and Gomorrah. The choice is ours!
Posted by: John | June 21, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am
to ahjusahappyguy: listen man,first off, Iraq has never attacked the U.S
second what your basically saying is you want full siege on Iraq? do you know how many civilians would die in an attack like that? or is it that just because their Arab and Muslim means that the innocent are expendable??
there are innocent lives in both countries
that have been invaded and they are now homeless, dead or their children orphans.
or is there death worth it to you??
Posted by: H | June 21, 2007, 11:33 am 11:33 am
It’s Arod’s fault!
Posted by: Scott | June 21, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
who cares why! they’re coming, run!
Posted by: uuh | June 21, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
If they had a graduation for this extremists. Doesn’t that mean that they had to take a test to graduate? If they are suicide bombers then why are they still alive if they graduated? At least this gives us even more of reason to take out Iran, Pakastan, Lebannon, Etc.
Posted by: Rob | June 21, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
John, if you are so pious, then why are you partaking in this unholy, ungodly artifice (an online entertainment service)?
And children who are killed by suicide bombers have disobeyed god?
guess again, preacher boy…
Posted by: Jazz | June 21, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
I’m assuming that H means “their death” rather than “there death”, and an answer to that is, in this case, a resounding YES. Better them than “some” of us. You peaceniks would have been against dropping the atom bomb on Nagasaki & Hiroshima to end WW2. That was THE only way to convince the Japanese to stop killing their own people by surrendering. Thousands of their people were killed by those 2 bombs but lives were eventually saved by the Japanese surrender. They even tried to continue after the bombing until some of their more sane leaders deciced to give it up. If we planted just one of our newest bombs in a strategic area over their, these idiots would think again and decide we are serious. It might even save a few of you antiwar, anti-military, anti-American, Bush hating, peacenik ostrichlike characters.
Posted by: poysunivy | June 21, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Nothing new under the sun. When haven’t we been at war. We are a war machine. We spend alot of money on war.
Hegemony (pronounced he’gem.ə.ni or hə’dʒɛ.mə.ni) (Greek: ἡγεμονία hēgemonía) is the dominance of one group over other groups, with or without the threat of force, to the extent that, for instance, the dominant party can dictate the terms of trade to its advantage; more broadly, cultural perspectives become skewed to favor the dominant group. The cultural control that hegemony asserts affects commonplace patterns of thought: hegemony controls the way new ideas are rejected or become naturalized in a process that subtly alters notions of common sense in a given society.
Hegemony results in the empowerment of certain cultural beliefs, values, and practices to the submersion and partial exclusion of others. Hegemony influences the perspective of mainstream history, as history is written by the victors for a congruent readership.
In the fictional book Nineteen-Eighty-Four, author George Orwell talks about a state of constant war being used as one of many ways to distract people. War inspires fear and hate among the people of a nation, and gives them a “legitimate” enemy upon whom they can focus this fear and hate. Thus the people are prevented from seeing that their true enemy is in fact their own repressive government. By this theory war is another “opiate of the masses” by which a state controls its people and prevents revolution.
“Is there any man, is there any woman, let me say any child here that does not know that the seed of war in the modern world is industrial and commercial rivalry?” – Woodrow Wilson, September 11, 1919, St. Louis.
“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.” – simultaneously highest ranking and most decorated Marine (including two Medals of Honor) Major General Smedley Butler (also a GOP primary candidate for Senate) 1935.[26]
The concept of permanent war economy’ originated in 1944 with an article by Walter J. Oakes who predicted a post-war arms race. He argued at the time that the USA would retain the character of a war economy; even in peacetime, American military expenditure would remain large, reducing the percentage of unemployed compared to the 1930s. This analysis was extended by T. N. Vance in 1950 and 1951.
The concept was also used by Charles E. Wilson to refer to an institutionalized war economy —ie. a semi-command-type economy which is directed by corporation executives, based on military industry, and funded by state social spending. The term refers to the economic component within the Military-industrial complex (MIC) (aka. “the Iron Triangle”) whereby the collusion between militarism and profiteering are manifest as a permanently subsidised industry.
The world spent 1 trillion dollars on military in 2005, the US spent nearly half of it.
Posted by: onevoice | June 21, 2007, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Another school of thought argues that war can be seen as an outgrowth of economic competition in a chaotic and competitive international system. In this view wars begin as a pursuit of new markets, of natural resources, and of wealth. Unquestionably a cause of some wars, from the empire building of Britain to the 1941 Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in pursuit of oil, this theory has been applied to many other conflicts. It is most often advocated by those to the left of the political spectrum, who argue such wars serve the interests of the wealthy but are fought by the poor. Some to the right of the political spectrum may counter that poverty is relative and one poor in one country can be relatively wealthy in another. Such counter arguments become less valid as the increasing mobility of capital and information level the distributions of wealth worldwide, or when considering that it is relative, not absolute, wealth differences that may fuel wars. There are those on the extreme right of the political spectrum who provide support, fascists in particular, by asserting a natural right of the strong to whatever the weak cannot hold by force. Some very important centrist, capitalist, world leaders, including Presidents of the United States and US Generals, expressed support for an econonic view of war.
Posted by: mr. bigglesworth | June 22, 2007, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Imperialism is the policy of extending a nation’s authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations, countries, or colonies. This is realized either through direct territorial conquest or settlement, or through indirect methods of influencing or controlling the politics and/or economy. The rule of authority of a country is based on territory, economic establishment and political influence. The term is used to describe the policy of a nation’s dominance over distant lands, regardless of whether the subjugated nation considers itself part of the empire. It is also considered the action by which one country controls another country or territory accomplished by military means to gain certain advantages. Imperialism helps one country gain power and domain over other areas. Imperialism can also be referred to as expansionism. An imperialist country, state, colony, or nation can be grouped as political, economic, religious, ideological, or exploratory.
An imperialist government is a government that tries to gain new markets for exports, sources of inexpensive labor and raw materials. The interrupting of affairs between developing countries to protect international corporations caused the United States to be accused of imperialism in the early 20th century.
It has been debated between economists and political theorists on whether or not imperialism benefits the states that practice it. Some theorists have even argued that imperialism is the result of the natural struggle of peoples survival.[citation needed] After World War two, the idea of liberating people and bringing them to a blessing in a superior way of life was another justification of imperialism.
Insofar as “imperialism” in the non-Marxist sense might be used to refer to an intellectual position, it would imply the belief that the acquisition and maintenance of empires is a positive good, probably combined with an assumption of cultural or other such superiority inherent to imperial power (see The White Man’s Burden).
Imperialist policies have been criticized because some believe they have often been used for economic exploitation of poorer countries as sources of raw materials and cheap labor, but others contend that creating jobs in poorer countries is welcomed by and benefits the poor most of all.
In recent years, there has also been a trend to view imperialism not at an economic or political level, but as a cultural issue, particularly in regard to the widespread global influence of American culture (see “cultural imperialism”). Some dispute this extension of the concept, however, on the grounds that it is highly subjective to differentiate between mutual interaction and undue influence, and also that this extension is applied selectively.
Posted by: one vision | June 22, 2007, 1:23 am 1:23 am
I say do your homework and study the Quran.
Posted by: Carol | June 22, 2007, 8:16 am 8:16 am
one vision, good cut n paste…a lot of blah blah blah…X-Factor-7 and Alex, get a grip on reality…it’s good for you.
Posted by: Jazz | June 22, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Ok I’ll be waiting for you suicide bombers with my M-16 locked and loaded.
Posted by: Jeff | June 22, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am
all this pointless talk…… the border with Mexico remains wide open ,last I heard……… do Pakistanis need visas for mexico these days ???…..it just not make sense that to fly into the US,all fingers & yr irises are scanned ,or you just detour via Mexico if you have half a brain…
Posted by: Shane | June 22, 2007, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Kick the hornets’ nest and you get stung. As long as they were buzzing inside their nest, we could walk fairly safely. But now? I knew this would happen when Bush took a left turn into Iraq.
Posted by: Charmaine | June 22, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
To ensure we Americans never offend anyone — particularly fanatics intent
on killing us — law enforcement and security screeners are not allowed to
“profile” people in public places or security checkpoints. However, they
will continue to perform random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids,
airline pilots with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are
members of the President’s security detail, 85-year-old congressmen with
metal hips and even Medal of Honor recipients. But targeting Middle Eastern
male Islamists between the ages 17 and 40 constitutes “ethnic profiling.”
Let’s pause a moment and review….
In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by: (a) A salesman from Utah (b)
An construction worker (c) A college student on Spring Break (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics
by: (a) Your grandmother (b) A Midwest auto-parts dealer (c) A mom and her
6-year-old son visiting from Indiana (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males
between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by: (a) A bluegrass band
(b) Dallas Cowboy fans (c) A tour group of 80-year-old women (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
During the 1980′s numerous Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
by: (a) A family on their way to Disney World (b) Jesse Ventura
(c) A Boy Scout Troop (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of
17 and 40.
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by: (a) A pizza
delivery boy (b) The UPS guy (c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news
day (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70-year-old
disabled American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by: (a) A
girls’ choir (b) A hardware store owner (c) A secretary (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of
17 and 40.
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was
murdered by: (a) A Marine officer with two weeks leave
(b) A plumber going to visit his mom (c) A Catholic nun (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: (a) A college-bound freshman (b) A
cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A waitress (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by: (a) A starving actress (b) A
mom with a newborn (c) Twin six-year-old boys (d) Middle Eastern Islamist
males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1995, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound international flights over the Pacific
was attempted by (a) Hawaiian school kids (b) An decorated Vietnam Veteran
(c) Twin sisters on their way to Paducah (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males
between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) A local TV weatherman (b) A dad and his two sons on a ski trip (c) A
widower going to visit his grandchildren (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males
between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2000, 17 sailors died in an attack on the USS Cole (DDG 67) in Yemen by:
(a) A child in a stroller (b) A high school class on their way to visit
Washington, DC (c) Newlyweds on their way to Miami (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked — two flown into the World Trade
Centers, one into the Pentagon and one into the ground in rural
Pennsylvania. They were hijacked by: (a) A retired police officer on a
mission trip to Haiti (b) A firefighter going to Maryland for training (c)
An paramedic on his way to vacation in Hawaii (d) Middle Eastern Islamist
males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 the United States liberated Afghanistan from: (a) USAID relief
workers (b) Jewish Pilgrims (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl and other Westerners were kidnapped and
beheaded by: (a) The Peace Corp (b) Scottish clansmen (c) Cuban refugees (d)
Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002, more than 330 hostages in Beslan and 130 hostages in Moscow were
murdered in sieges by: (a) Russian exchange students
(b) The Red Guard (c) Church planters (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males
between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2003 the United States liberated Iraq from “The Butcher of Baghdad,” but
most American military personnel were killed by:
(a) Iraqi school-girls (b) Street vegetable venders (c) Women without burkas
(d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2004, more than 200 Spanish civilians were murdered on trains by bombs in
Madrid, detonated by: (a) Morning commuters (b) A three-year-old Chinese
girl (c) Flamenco dancers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages
of 17 and 40.
In 2005 more than 50 UK citizens were killed by bombs on trains in London,
detonated by: (a) Rail workers (b) Those unable to hail taxis (c)
Wheelchair-bound grandmothers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the
ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, there were hundreds of casualties, men, women and children, killed
by bombs in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Amman. These innocent civilians were
murdered by: (a) Construction workers (b) Farmers (c) Christian missionaries
(d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, the city of Paris, and other European cities experienced an
extended period of riots and destruction. The unrest was led
by: (a) “Youth” (b) Soccer fans (c) Catholic nuns (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than 2,500 Americans
have been murdered by terrorists. 35,000 Iraqi men, women and children have
also been murdered by terrorists. Most of the combat and civilians
casualties were the result of bombs detonated in civilian population centers
by: (a) Fruit vendors in Baghdad (b) Disgruntled transit union workers (c)
Iraqi schoolteachers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of
17 and 40.
In 2006, hundreds of Israeli civilians have been killed by rockets launched
by: (a) the Salvation Army (b) remnants of the ‘Jackson Five’ (c) the cast
of ‘Friends’ (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and
40.
In 2006, a plot to blow up 10 U.S.-bound planes from the U.K. was attempted
by (a) members of the royal family (b) Japanese tourists (c) groupies of the
band ‘Cream’ (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and
40.
Since 2001, the FBI reports that there are major terrorist cells still in
U.S. urban centers. Several of these cells have been uncovered and cell
members arrested. In every case, the terrorists cell members were: (a)
Southern Baptists Conventioneers (b) Lutheran Youth Groups (c) Presbyterian
Elders
(d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
President George Bush said this week, “America is at war with Islamic
fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to
hurt our nation.” The Council on American-Islamic Relations issued an
immediate objection to the President’s reference to “Islamic fascists”.
Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR protested, “We have to isolate these
individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic faith that
encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to be criminal. Muslims
world wide know that for sure.” In light of this objection, we are left to
ponder why every Islamic leader in the U.S., and the world, does not
publicly condemn every terror action being undertaken in the name of the god
of Islam. Their silence is deafening…
Between 1970 and present, there were more than 60 other notable examples of
terrorism perpetrated by Middle Eastern male Islamists between the ages 17
and 40, but we think you get the point. Singling out “Middle Eastern male
Islamists between the ages 17 and 40″ is not “ethnic profiling,” it’s
“terrorist profiling” — acting on prolific evidence.
Anyone for Terrorist Profiling?
Posted by: DC | June 22, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Charmaine, I think you have it backwards, as you antiwar, anti-military, anti-American libs are prone to do. The hornets nest was really stirred up when 9/11 happened. It was stirred before with all the airplane, barracks, and embassy bombings but the DIC’s (democrats in charge) were too chicken to do anything about it. Bush finally does something other than turn another cheek and you idiots won’t accept that. You were probably too young or not even born when WW2 & the Korean conflict happened. You have never lived in fear that something like 9/11 would ever happen because you were too busy looking for another joint or a handout. The democrat base today consists of the 60′s hippy crowd and their offspring who were born with a yellow stripe down their backs and a white flag of surrender. You think talking to the enemy is the answer. Get real. They want you dead as well.
Posted by: poysunivy | June 22, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
How long before people start waking up to the fact that this cycle of war after war every 10 to 20 years is senseless and someone had better find another way to resolve issues between nations and ideologies besides feeding insurgencies arms and training to carry out proxy wars, then carrying out full invasions when these smaller skirmishes escalate further out of control .
It’s these proxy wars for which the US happen to historically be the primary aid and provider for since 1900 that is causing the repercussions being felt by the civilian populations in America, Europe and the middle east today.
Many of you will remain in denial about our role in this for perhaps another century which will result in more bloodshed and the calls for vengeance and retaliation for both the lost and dead of ours and others.
Eventually, even the slowest, least evolved of us will come to ultimately see that it’s all a result of cause and affect as everything else is in nature, and that the role we’ve played as the leading world power has been the greatest influence to this end and the most inflammatory and yet remains in history the most futile and nonproductive of efforts.
Posted by: gotcha | June 22, 2007, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
I don’t blame Bush for these fanatics graduating but I blame him for invading the wrong country under ulterior motives, thereby sapping the Army of troops and the country’s will to fight.
They should be there blowing these sickos up, not creating more by fighting a protracted and unpopular war in Iraq.
Posted by: Draconizza | June 22, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Hi,
I read the article above and I have to admit, I am the average American and quite frankly, I DO CARE. Not to say who’s right or who’s wrong on this board or in this blog, I do have my own opinion about all this. First off, Iran, Syria, China, and Russia, have always had a beef with the U.S. I don’t know the specific date in history but it was well before 9/11 ever took place. I believe it has everything to do with 1. our democracy and 2. Our love for Almighty God. Secondly, I am honoured that our troops are in Iraq to represent us, our country, America, however, I don’t take lightly anyone dying. Thirdly, I have always been aware the day would come in our country (it’s not too far away,) when there would be sucide bombers, others invading our country, willing to die for “Allah.” So it’s not if but when. I believe it’s a spiritual war none the less. Just like Hank asked, Are you ready to meet your maker?
Posted by: beneatiah | June 24, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Does anyone recall what happened to the Soviet Union when they went to war with Afghanistan for 10 years? Their country collapsed.
The same thing is going to happen to the USA. Our country is going bankrupt do to this war. This war on terrorism isn’t the only war that is going on.
Soon there will be an economical war waged against this country do to our government selling us out to the highest bidder.
Thanks to the corporations outsourcing American jobs overseas our to make bigger profits with cheap labor our country which was once carried by our manufacturing jobs no longer build things like we used to we now buy them from China, Taiwan, Japan.
You can worry all you want to about terrorists attacking and they will but our economy is going to collapse. Something will happen and then we will become the North American Union with Mexico and Canada. We will convert to the Amero and eventually we will become part of a one world government.
In May 2008 we will all have to apply for drivers license/National ID cards which will have microchips embedded in them to track our finances, locate us, etc, this is just putting us one step closer to “the mark of the beast” written about in Revelations.
Stop worrying about terrorists because they will be the least of your problems. Give yourself to the Lord, repent and pray it is the only way to save your soul.
Do not take the “mark of the beast” for you will lose your soul! The end times are drawing near. Those who believe they will be raptured away before the great tribulation are being deceived and are fools. Wake up America. Wake up Christians!
Posted by: Buzz Sawyer | June 24, 2007, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Hey Buzz… stop worrying about the Terrorists? What…what form do you think the beast will show himself? A physical horned devil wreathing to take your soul? No, he would come as a thousand zealots willing to strap bombs our their chests to destroy and kill people they have never met nor know their personal beliefs and/or feelings regarding the many injustices which are being carried out not only by our government but other governments as well who have their own private interests as heart.
You also forget the reason the Russians failed in Afghanistan was due to US training and weapons being used by the local militia to counteract the invasion by Russia. And the collapse of the communism in Russia had nothing to do with Afghanistan.
Also, the former USSR is alive and well and still possesses a mighty weapon arsenal. No one should ever think they are gone…Why do you think Chechnya rebells are sometime seen on the morning newspaper.
The US will not fall due to the war in the middle east. However, it may fall at least “spiritually” by the private civil liberties which are being sacrificed in the name of false securities.
Though not officially termed this, the war was a continuation of the first Gulf War in which we should of removed Saddam then…but in 1991 but failed to do so.. and in my opinion the correct thing to do. However, trying to tie it together (with 911) to have the American public complacent with the war was unjustified.
We needed to protect American interests and we have done since our countries inception in 1776. Though most of us hate to admit it…we complain of the high cost of fuel as we drive around in our air conditioned vehicles and believe the government has to do something to lower the cost of our gluttonous ways yet cry out when the American arms is used to make that will a reality.
Big business is what drives our economy though we hate to admit it. Until we find better alternative ways to enrich our lives we will always have to protect our interests…in much the same way radical Islam is protecting theirs by have 12 year olds strapping explosives on their backs and attacking their enemy. Radical Islam does not want the individual to realize it is a fools folly to do so. It makes a momentary statement but does nothing to push their cause.
We, as American people, need to take back our Country not only in our liberties and rights, but spiritually, economically (no more “loans” or gifts to other countries), and finally we need to get educated regarding the world as a whole and protect what we need to with force and decline to send troops to mend a nation which does not like us in the first place…
Geez…so much to say and yet so little time to voice it…
Posted by: Chris | June 26, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Right It’s all our governments fault that crazy people want to blow them selves up.
Some of you people, Rick & Brandon, need to get over their Bush derangment syndrome. The same people tried to topple the world trade center in 1993.I guess that was President Bush’s fault again.Wish we had an honest,truth telling president like slick Willy.Oh wait he WAS convicted of lying under oath.
Posted by: bill | June 26, 2007, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
I can’t really hold it against them.
Posted by: Paul | June 30, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
wow!! i really had no idea that there were so many haters in the US. actual ‘haters’. i listen to a lot of anti-west propaganda, but anti-islamic/muslim sentiment i see here beats that.
why do the afghans hate the US? and Bush? well, for starters, they have killed families, left children and women to die…………. and they think they are liberating them??!!!
bomb them back into stone age……..well, we did not have so much of viciousness in the stone age. can’t seen to remember history that said in the stone age people killed people just for the heck of it. to everyone here who thinks it is ok to bomb and kill, and the sucide bombers are nuts…….. well! lets have the government take away ur family, ur food, ur school, ur house, ur income, no access to justice, and be left with just rubble….. and the white man’s arrogance. it would make u want to kill too.
i think the americans have been having it very easy. blame everyone else for ur faults. there are a couple of old sayings they should remember………1) what goes….comes back; 2)do unto others as u want them to do unto u.
Posted by: salman | July 1, 2007, 3:18 am 3:18 am
What a nation of gutless sheep. Big brother says “it is so,” so it must be so. Vince Packard (A nation of sheep) must be turning over in his grave about now. The U.S. is more easily misdirected and lied to by its government than then, and will still not question those lying SOB’s of both parties in government.
Can you imagine if Franklin had had so many cowards and dunderheads to deal with when he sais that “those who would sacrifice freedom for safety deserve neither, freedom nor safety.”
Oh well, big brother will keep us safe. It is better than good honest government.
Posted by: George C, Levitt | July 1, 2007, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Bush lied ??? You ignorant fools forget the speeches of Al Gore when he was running with Clinton for the White House and how he stressed that Bush senior was not doing enough to stop the NUCLEAR ambitions of Saddam. But that really would be an INCONVENIENT TRUTH NOW WOULDN’T IT.
Posted by: Rufus | July 1, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
And Chertoff just announced he will NOT commit to spending money secure the borders because the Shammnesty Bill failed to pass!!
Posted by: cw | July 2, 2007, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Now I know where Bush’s 20% support is located. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but regardless IF the post war had been run correctly WITH ENOUGH TROOPS we would not be having this conversation today.
Had we not killed or let be killed thousands of families Iraqi people would have welcomed us. We sent personnel into Iraq who could not handle a Walmart grand opening, incompetent crooks. Even the troops hated Rummy long before the American people took a note on his irresponsible handling of Iraq. Bush has the blood of innocents on his hands & was never competent himself to start a war. Bin Laden is STILL alive but all the perpetrators of The Clinton era are behind bars. Sorry you cannot rewrite history – Bush is a sorry president who sees all in black and white.
Posted by: Dona | July 2, 2007, 6:59 am 6:59 am
My suggestion is to drop some nukes on any country that supports this type of terrorism. Supposedly we are the ones with all of the technology so why the hell don’t we sue it?
I say make ‘em all glow in the dark. They aren’t human anyway.
Posted by: Sickof the BS | July 2, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am
All these comments are interesting. One only needs going back to the 1300-1400 when the Siege of Vienna disrupted the Muslim invasion of Europe.
They were chased all the way back to their own area with the writings saying that they will be back someday to get all of the EVIL CHRISTEN BELLIEVERS (WHICH IS IN THEIR MIND) ANYONE WHO IS WHITE AND NOT ISLAMIC
Posted by: Charlie | July 2, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Why do nearly 100% of the comments politicize, to the 10,000th degree, what is a factual story? There is no disputing that these people exist, that they are plotting to attack us, and that they can cause major harm and destruction.
The “we’re diverting attention from the real war on terror” crowd gloss over the fact that these Afghani terrorists are also targeting Germany, which is not taking part in Iraq. Should we also pull out of Afghanistan and put the Taliban back in charge?
The “why do they hate us” crowd are just diverting attention–it doesn’t matter why they hate us. Technically, Europeans should hate Muslims because of their imperialist incursions into Eastern Europe and Spain. The radical Muslim world hates us for our freedom, openness, and support of Israel. So what? Even if we did a 180 on Israel, they would still call the US the “Great Satan”.
Despite centuries of bloody conflict between the Mulsim world and the West, the “why do they hate us” crowd declare that everything would be solved if we would just reverse the policies of the last 5, 10, 50, or 100 years. There is no need for reflection. No real solutions are put forward, only rhetorical suicide bombs.
If that makes them feel better, I guess it’s a free country (unlike our opponents) and we have free speech (again, unlike our opponents). But it’s obviously not aimed at saying anything constructive or meaningful.
Posted by: lawhead | July 2, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Good post Debbie!
Posted by: Michael | July 2, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
These Muslim “nut jobs are the real sicko’s” as are the extreme far left radical’s here in the U.S. who are attemtping to be next President. God help us.
Posted by: Ron | July 2, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Lets just keep killing them, one at a time if we have to. ;) maybe the “good” muslims should be a little more vocal in thier oppositions to these nutjobs.
Posted by: Tim | July 2, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
This type of thing is supposed to be prevented by us fighting in Iraq. The calculus is obviously too deep for me, so I will just feel safe with our “strong” and all-knowing president in charge.
Posted by: Scott | July 2, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
so , how about those Yankees?
Posted by: jeff | July 2, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Well, no one said The Mad King, idiot son of George, created the 9/11 terrorists. That would be silly. Yet everything he, the neo-cons, PNAC and his supporters did after Afghanistan was incompetent. You gutted the Bill of Rights because of terrorists?! You ruined the finest rapid-response force the world has ever seen?! The terrorists won and you republi-cons helped! Congratulations!
Posted by: phidipides | July 2, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
The American Democrat Party is nothing more then the Political Wing for Al Quida. Democrats have done NOTHING except obstruct and cry about how we turn down the AC and put panties on terrorist heads to get information. Democrats have called our President “Hitler” and they have called our troops everything from Killers to uneducated idiots. Democrats insist that we give terrorist captured on the battlefield a TRIAL with a civil Judge and civillian jury – they want to treat terrorist like American Citizens!
I am a lifelong Democrat who has become so ashamed at the once proud & powerfull Democrat Party that I can no longer vote Democrat – no matter how horriable the other side is; at least they don’t act like TRAITORS!
Posted by: Todd | July 2, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
i wish all americans a happy 4th of july…thats when we won our independence against an opressive government…we had a back bone during that time…lol…now look at us…spineless jelly fish…how pathetic…our founding fathers would bow their heads in shame.
wake up people…you’ve been at war for the last 30 years.
united we stand…divided we fall…
Posted by: a patroit | July 2, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Some of these comments are stupid. They hate us because their women want things they see in our culture and because their people want freedom. We need to take out the people who teach these schools around the world making more and more radicals. Screw politically correct; do waht is necessary. It’s going to come here here irregardless; so get ahead of it. Stop blaming Bush as it started 30 years or more ago.
Posted by: Jerry Stokes | July 3, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
World Politics Review has posted an English translation of the interview with Taliban commander Mansoor Abdullah. See here:
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=899
Posted by: Hampton Stephens | July 5, 2007, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Republican/Democrat this “war” has nothing to do with polictical parties, This has to do with religious beliefs. If you are not muslim then you must die. This is the mind set we are forced to deal with. this is their motivation.
To the muslim nutjobs killing members of the “Great Satan” is a task that will be rewarded far better than they have lived on this earth. “We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote general welfare, secure the blessing of liberty for our selves.” We are not form a more perfect union we are cutting our own throats. We are dividing our own country and making the tast/goals of the terrorist easier. Wake up and Grow up Americans. This thing has been going on for hundreds of years, before Bush, before Clinton or any other U.S. president. We as a nation need to step up to the plate and defend this country and our rights any way we can. Together we stand!
Posted by: Gator | July 6, 2007, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Why doesn’t everyone get off their liberal band wagon and wake up to the fact that these people are not human look at the execution of the woman in the arena two years ago only because her ankled were shown below her dress, look at the way the Taliban had treated woman and the way they burned and dragged the American security people through the streets are you FAINT AT HEARTS THIS STUPID THAT YOU CAN NOT SEE THIS GOING ON ” THANKS TO people so stupid that you want to condem our president for standing up against this what about the folks at 911?
Posted by: mike | July 12, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am
I believe that as a country we will have to turn back to what made us great and still does: the true God. Our morals and actions as a nation is what has kept us great, in spite of the mistakes we make. It is our people that have made this country what it is and that never changes in great societies. We will completely lose our identity as a nation if we continue on the path we are on. Only the God of Jesus Christ can help us change our course, and we need to repent and turn back to Him for wisdom, guidance, mercy and grace. Also, if we ever turn our backs on Israel, we are doomed, according to the Bible.
Anyone that is a believer in Jesus Christ that has been transformed is also transformed in their thinking. It is very obvious to any Christian that Muslims are totally misguided with what is taught from the Koran.
It is a shame as a nation we have become worshippers of sex, sports, cars, money, power, greed, etc. The Bible said in the end times man would call good evil and evil good. Muslims look at us as total hypocrites and we have done more to solidify that belief they have toward us than by sending troops to Iraq.
We need to wake up! We need the biggest revival this country has ever had and fall down before the Lord and confess our sins and turn toward Him for strength. Otherwise we and our children and grandchildren will be doomed. It is a fact that Christians will win in the end, but as a nation we will not even be a blip on the radar screen unless we get really serious and trust in the Lord with all our heart.
Posted by: tommy | July 14, 2007, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Al qaeda should know that God made life and it’s very important to Him, so if you kill the innocent intentionally there will be judgement.
Posted by: Learn | August 13, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
america is not at war,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are at the mall.
Posted by: 85IQ | November 23, 2007, 5:25 am 5:25 am
Don’t be concerned with placing the blame. Be concerned wih Liberals who control everything you see or read. Those same Liberals are responsible for PC. They won’t close the borders, they’ll take our guns away and raise your taxes. I’m no longer a Bush fan but I damned sure am not a Clinton fan.
I’m not an Isreali fan either but I read that at least 10% of Isrealis go about armed and there are few to no humn bomb attacks there anymore because the populace has been trained to spot a bomber nd they take him/her out immediately.
Why is it that now that we’re nearing election time that there’s a spate of shooters going into malls and schools? Is there some way the Liberals are manoeuvering people to beome suicides so the Liberal press can alarm the country of the dangers of firearms to establish greater gun control? I know that sounds weird but how is this happening? Let us be armed, close the borders down tight and we can take care of most of the problems.
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Posted by: m212 | December 25, 2007, 11:55 am 11:55 am
God has not authorised any one to kill other fellow human beings. It is innocent civilians who pay dearly with their lives for these inhuman crimes. I dont believe 9/11 happened without the knowledge of the great warrior Bush? Otherwise how come the hijacked plane heading towards Mr.Bush alone was shot down though the Govt claimed that it went down because of patriotic passengers revolting against the hijack !!! I only wish atleast now Bush stops his war games and does something really worthwhile to strop these guys from taking toll of innocent lives. I still annot forget the agony with which I saw the second tower being hit by the hijacked air craft shown live by BBC in their telecast. I pray God to give wisdom to Bush atleast now to act fast.
Posted by: sivasaiva | January 3, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
blame it to the people working at the embassies. blame it to the people approving the visas of these “terrorists”. terrorists got lots of money to bride these PEOPLE WORKING AT THE US EMBASSIES. (Employees working at US embassies are mostly US citizens). without approved visas, no one can leave their source of origin. and this is a fact! These idiots dont care as long as they got the money.
Posted by: grainedbubbles | January 13, 2008, 6:11 am 6:11 am
The terrorists don’t even need to set off any blasts. They’ve already induced us to spend trillions of dollars trying to swat a fly with a cannonball in Iraq. The damage done to our country is much more massive than any bomb could inflict. We will pay the cost in lost jobs from deficit spending to pay for these protracted wars, from infrastructure neglect and from layers of new spending on heightened security. They can just threaten with a few well placed videos and a three or so successful suicide bombings and we will spend ourselves into bankruptcy while it costs them hardly a dime by comparison. They have all the time in the world to wait us out while we bleed ourselves to death like a pack of panicking jack rabbits. They say ‘boo’ and we spend trillions and mobilize all our energy on a sustained basis until we just have exhausted everything, go into recession and have other countries dump our currency for being worthless. We are paying far more in this ‘war on terror’ than they are.
Posted by: JL | January 13, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
wow what a bunch of cowards sending children as young as 12.but its funny how these people follow these old guys that tell them to blow themselves up,but when the old guys get caught in a fire fight they don’t do what they preach.i guess they love to live rather than die.i really hope people in the middle east learn that
Posted by: nyc | February 11, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Just let them come over the border like the rest of them..no problem when that is what the rest of them are doing!!!
Posted by: Nico | February 12, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
Maybe this is why the NAFTA or
USNORTHCOM Army was formed
Posted by: joseph | February 27, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Its now 2008, just when did you think America had to stop fighting for freedom to even speak as you you do .The Russians are scared of too much freedom to have their people lax as the Americans and begin to tear down their nation within because theyve been taught peace and not learn that freedoms are fought for.When someone tries to control the way you think do you not fight for your right to have your own brain work for you? The kept are foolish in their statements,while their beliefs of peace are admirable,those they seek it from would destroy you and then your ways of life as they are doing now.You had better seriously think about what you do while you do indeed enjoy freedom to do so.The enemies of your country seek you out while you help them acheive their means from you within.Whose families lose their lives so you can speak anything?
Posted by: Michael | March 18, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
There is no difference from Mr. Bush-it or the other presidents, eccept Carter. All the rest what they want is to dominate the world and other countries including their presidents to kneel and worship the Kind in Washington. Don’t forget the Monroe Doctrine, which is to take all the resources from the weak countires if theose countries don’t sell them to Washington for cheap money. What we have in Washington is a MENIAC and we should fire him fro office, i mean, if this is really a Democracy we are his boss right?
Posted by: israel Lozano | April 5, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Hey, Try Wikipedia to find out about the Muslim Barabary Pirates who were the first Muslim terrorists to attack US interests in the late 1780′s. They demanded millions of dollars in extortion money and killed US citizens. Do you think this was George Washington and Thomas Jefferson’s fault?
Posted by: RICK | May 4, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm