Iraqi Insurgents Claim to Have Killed Missing Soldiers

The abductors are right. Bush is responsible for the abduction and killing of many of our soldiers. Bush is more worried about the Achmads and the Abduls of Iraq than Byron Fouty, 19, of Waterford Mich., and Alex Jimenez, 25, of Lawrence, Mass. The media twists the truth but Most people in America understand the war, its the laws of war adhered to by Bush.

It truely is a global war on terror, from iran, lebanon, israel, iraq afghanistan, pakistan, phillipines, somallia, etc…we are fighting terrorists. they will murder women, children and their own people. The debate last night had Hillary and edwards giving iran nuclear tech(like bill clinton did to nKorea) the islamic crusade must be stopped

When is President Bush going to realize that this is a war he will never win. This is a religious war that has been going on for hundreds of years just like the Israel and Pakistan wars. Its a never ending battle.
Yes there are terrorists and yes they are here in our own country; but concentrate on our own country and bring these boys home. This was nothing more than to settle a score for his daddy. Every day this war goes on is actually more money in his pocket. He is setting himself up pretty good for when he leaves office. He is going down is history as not only the dumbest President in our history but also the most arrogant. Its amazing his cabinet has fallen apart before his eyes. That should tell the people something. You would think anyway.
I hope these two boys are still alive; but like someone said, I, too, am afraid that this is a preamble to the worst that could happen. Prayers for these boys. We will always support our troops no matter what; but will not support this revenge war that President Bush started.

Its pretty sad when you think of what the captured soldiers are probably going thru. Whats worse is that the Bush Administration thru its actions/torture in Abu Ghraib, Haditha, Guantanamo and all the other illegal acts such as rendition has made it acceptable and given the terrosrists a green light to do the same and worse. We have lost the moral ground and can only expect our troops to suffer the consequnces. Thanks Bush

Alvin, you are a sad sad misinformed lib if you think Bush is responsible for this, I beg of you to explain your reasoning. And the comment that Bush cares more about the locals than the soldiers? Fantasy.

Some of you need to grow up-If it weren’t for people (like the two young men who are told about here) You would
all be communists are you wouldn’t even exist.
These young men elected to fight over there rather than in your back yard.And,
they were captured.God protect them and keep them.
Do any of you realize that our military is All volunteer?and that they take an oath and know exactly what they are doing when they enter the military?
Instaed of using this to bash a president that a lot of us are dissatisfied with-why not pray for these families and if you’re close to them,offer your help?

Get real!!!! Bush knows what he is doing – put yourself in his position and THEN talk what YOU can do better! You just gripe-gripe-gripe!
Our soldiers were NOT drafted – they went to fight for US! You are just a bunch of whiny, complaining, selfish people running your mouth alllllll the time!

I’m an infantry Captain, U.S. Army. I can say with boots on the ground knowledge that we’ve created more “terrorists” than were in existance before we invaded Iraq. Iraqis didn’t have squat to do with Taliban or 9/11. We invaded Iraq under false/mistaken pretenses – lots of people me included were mislead – but now we know. And since we’ve realized that mistake A) Bush hasn’t B) we’ve stayed in Iraq C) the 95% of Iraqi’s who “sit on the fence” and neither support us or were against us …are falling on the “against us” side of the fence. I have personally captured Iraqis who admitted that they would have never fought against us if we were never there. Mistakes in war – civilian casualties, collatoral damage, abu ghraib, are BREEDING terrorists. Or, as I like to call them, patriotic Iraqi’s who have the guts to fight us.

Our POW’s have never been treated humanely in war, well before Bush.

Missy and Alvin — no small wonder our country is in trouble with morons like you on the loose. This is no different from what many of us experienced during Viet Nam. Many of the liberals then were clamoring then about bringing the boys home all the while disguising the fact that they cared nothing about the troops, just themselves — they really hated the military. Mean while those of us overseas were isolated, alone and felt betrayed by our own people! This generation is so caught up in who will be the next idol it has precious little time for history so they are repeating it, at our soldiers expense.

Sadly we have become a country of “blame someone”, “don’t fight your enemy if you can’t win EVERY battle”, we talk about bad ideas without any real input of effort or ideas of our own.
Lets fight the war on terror where ever the enemy choses to battle us, forget the idea of instant success, sacrifice free feel good win every battle approach. God Bless all Civilized people.
REM

JCH 51223, I have a better idea, why don’t you take your sorry ass to Iraq to fight. Loser.

Anita is right, that is the purpose of the posting of our captured men, to terrorize us and make us turn tail and run. It is working as we see the turntails turn against the president and their own country and praise the Terrorists. They think that in doing so they will save their own cowardly skins, but they are wrong. When the enemy takes over the USA, they and their children will be among the dead. All of us need to pray for our troops, our president and that our country can survive Terrorism. Oh but I forgot, the ones who love and support Terrorism, do not love God or even believe in Him, so how can they pray?

Are these the rules of engagement under the Geneva Convention? Where are the voices of the UN or the Democratic leaders or the news media? Let our troops do what they have to do to defeat the terrorists.
Well said BJ Colbert.

Roberto the only empty head is yours. All the items i mentioned are caused directly or indirectly by the Bush Administration, the invasion of Iraq, Guantanamo, Renditions, Abu Ghraib, Haditha. None of those issues existed before Bush, the leader has to take responsibility for the actions of his troops and employees. This is a fact and Bush has to take responsibility for this mess, he put our troops in harms way and he and his cronies Rumsfeld, Condy, Chaney, Pearl etc are responsible for these actions. The buck stops with Bush. Quit passing it around…

I feel sad for the blatant disregard for our military resources. I’d love to see Bush and his daughters in their place. I love Republicans, but I just wish they’d stop looking at this as a Democrat vs. Republican issue and focus on what’s right and not ignore the wrongs. I was a Republican until Bush ruined everything I loved about this country. He took away our freedoms and threw our own economy into the crapper all while touting “9/11.” I fear for the future of America and I stand behind anyone who will bring our troops home. Again: Bush doesn’t care about our troops, he only cares about his personal agendas and uses our military resources for his own (and his friends’) financial gains.

The terrorist Killers are responsible for kidnapping and sadly torturing our brave soldiers. Wouldn’t it be nice if they only put underwear on our troops and put a leash on them. Sadly, these savage killers only know one thing, cowardly, excuse driven torture and murder. Where is the outrage over their torture tactics? Where is the outrage over the torture house recently uncovered. Instead, we rely on blaming Bush and Cheney. How about putting the relentless Bush hatred into outrage and condemnation of these Islamo Fascist Killers. Maybe we are afraid these truths will upset someone’s feelings?
I am waiting to hear the real outrage…

If one takes time to study the history and study what has happened in many past years they will find an answer. No one has ever been able to rule or control Afghanistan, either Europe, Russia and USA. What makes you think that we can change thousands of years of culture and way of living over night? What makes us think that we and our culture is always right and others are wrong. If so why do we support Saudi arbia monarchy with no human rights?
Iraq is same situation. No one ever will rule or control Iraq and our men and women will die for what? It was a mistake to go into Iraq in the first place. Gracefully we may want to admit our misjudgment and get the hell out to morrow and let local resolve their differences as they see fit.
Neither Bush or any current politicians may resolve this bluder and keep our people safe?

alvin maldonado’s commenst are so wrong an far fetched – Alvin – go to Iraq and live there you fool – lets see you post that crap about terrosrist organizations and see how much “Bush” is wrong.
You’d last a day if that.

It is sad to say that this web site has not presented any proof that these soldiers are alive. As a former combat soldier myself, I pray that they are alive. All soldiers understand the price that you might have to pay. We also know that our fellow soldiers will always be looking for us. We cover each others backs. This is something that is buried deep in the soldiers creed and something you civilians will never understand. All of you pathetic whinners can all play politics with this issue if you want. But to those guys out there, the must important thing to them is the guys standing next to them. You know that he would go full out for you and you would do the same for him. Alive or dead, they will do everything they can to bring them home. Unfortunately these Iraqi insurgent groups don’t believe in the fair treatment of POW’s. They are firm believers in brutal torture. I hopw that we find them as soon as possible.

As sad as it is being on the blog with the traitor and Dem activist Brian Ross I will say this :For evil to win good people have only to doone thing nothing;And one more : Good has to win all the time Evil only once.

Okay, Lawrence, rational thinker, what is your plan to get my son home? In 2008, after we get the democrats into office….what then? Will all things be perfect then? Sure! I can’t wait to see what happens then! Please run for President, I want to see what you can do! The government can not save us and we can not save ourselves from ourselves.What each of us need to do is to accept responsibility for our own actions. How many people do you kill each day with your brilliant words! Where is the Peace you support so much. Bring it to us…we are waiting!

The fate of these men is no different than that of the tiny unborn babies who are snuffed out everyday. At least these men had a choice to go over to Iraq.
Did you ever think that just maybe God is punishing the US for the immoralactions of homosexuals and feminists?

Eric: Osama bin Laden is working in a 7-11 in New Jersey, everyone knows that. He only leaves when Haliburton needs him to make another video to keep the war funds coming.

Hey, Nick,
Isn’t it funny how SOME non-Muslim Americans (aka: Fundamentalist Americans) see the problem as Islam, when really Muslim extremeists learned their most radical ideologies from radical, misinformed Christians during the Crusades?
No one’s religion is at fault, everyone’s religion is to blame. Stop pointing fingers and admit the mistakes of a mistaken President. As a member of his base, why can’t you see that Bush has used his base to get him elected, but has now abandoned that same base for his kin-folk–Big Business.
Maryilyn–FYI, God does not care that much. Come out of the Stone Age, read the Allegory of the Cave.

“next to of course god america i
love you land of the pilgrims’ and so forth oh
say can you see by the dawn’s early my
country ’tis of centuries come and go
and are no more what of it we should worry
in every language even deafanddumb
thy sons acclaim your glorious name by gorry
by jingo by gee by gosh by gum
why talk of beauty what could be more beaut-
iful than these heroic happy dead
who rushed like lions to the roaring slaughter
they did not stop to think they died instead
then shall the voice of liberty be mute?”
e.e. cummings

FUBAR: You are FUBAR. ’nuff said.

In reply to Chris at the top:
“The abductors are right. Bush is responsible for the abduction and killing of many of our soldiers.”
-Treason/Traitor
Liberalism is a mental disorder……how can one person be responsible for the actions of another?
Liberals are just weak and misguided. They’re gonna whine, complain, and criticize no matter what, and even while they do they’ll need someone tough to stand up for them. Our President and our soldiers are doing just that.

I feel soo bad for the soldiers and their families, and i hope that they are safely returned home and unharmed!

The Terrorist Thugs we are fighting in Iraq are really nothing more than cowards! They kill women and children in the name of their perverted religious beliefs. Do you really expect them to be nice to our captured soldiers? They will use those soldiers for propaganda until they are no longer useful. That has already started with the release of the photo above of the ID cards. It is all about turning the hearts and minds of us back home! DON”T LET THEM WIN!

It will be sad when all these Bush-defending “Americans” are old and having to be taken care of by the policies of caring “liberal” social programs, since the future Bush leaves for all is dark.
And the stock for Depends will rise because of caring for those who abandoned their own concern for human nature.
History has already judged Bush as the worst President in history. Whether or not he can do something besides bath in blood money is his destiny.

Wade: Put your helmet back on, the soft spot’s getting too much sun again.

In 1991, in the midst of the first Gulf War, Iraq made a UN sanctioned cease fire. Iraq repeatedly broke those conditions and ignored 14 UN demands that the conditions be met. In 1998, the Clinton administration with the enthusiastic approval of Congress, made regime change in Iraq US government policy. Following 9/11 when the President said “…if you are not with us, you are against us….” we looked at Sadaam Hussein’s record of aiding known terrorists. Michael Scheuer, one time head of the CIA’s Bin Laden unit published documented proof of Iraq’s connections with Al Qaeda in his 2002 book, “Through Our Enemies Eyes”, Mr Scheuer has been a critic of the Bush administration, certainly not an apologist for the Iraq debacle.Joe Klein, of Time magazine, another critic of Bush has confirmed Sadaam’s terrorist training camps in Iraq and his relationship with Ayman al-Zawahiri. Bin Laden is listed on a 1992 IIS document as a asset to the IIS in Syria. Another IIS document tells of Bin Laden’s March 1998 visit to Baghdad. Al Zawahiri was in Baghdad in February of 1998 as confirmed by the 9/11 Commision. Sadaam Hussein paid the families of Palestinian suicide bombers $25,000 after their successful homocide missions. The Bush administration has mishandled the Iraqi invasion and we see that on a daily basis. Perhaps we should have never gone into Iraq, but according to our government policy, prior to Bush’s election- we had every right to do so. We certainly had more right than the Clinton administration did to bomb the Christian Serbs on behalf of the ethnic Albanians (see the Utah mall shooting and 4 of the Fort Dix plotters). Now we are assisting those same Muslim Albanians to ethnically cleanse Kosovo of the Serbs and just as Chamberlain in 1938 gave Hitler something that wasn’t his to give we are giving part of Serbia to the increasingly Islamist Muslims of
Kosovo. Bush’s policies regarding immigration, Kosovo and the running of the Iraq war have been horrendous and I will be happy to see him leave office. But read some of the words of the previous Democrat administration, the Congressman and women of both parties, the UN and the media from a decade ago. If deposing Sadaam Hussein was illegal no one has clean handds.

These men should be released if the IRof Iraq is smart, not stupid. The IRI should negotiate with us and we with them. Yes, they are the enemy. But the Geneva Convention should apply. We should go by it; they should also. Soon major negotiations will begin internationally on IRAQ. Don’t be stupid IRQ! We know you read the internet. Release these soldiers. While many of us in America want this war concluded, we will only be hardened if these men are treated in a horrific manner. IRQ-release these troops to the Iraq government now!

Matt- How many muslims are still alive from the last crusades. Check me but the last one was like 1000 years or so ago.

As an Arabic speaker, their message in the above figure says more than just “Bush is responsible for capture of your soldiers.” I am not sure if this is intentional by ABC or not, but the literal meaning (which is deeper and more profound) is that “Bush is the reason for the LOSS of your prisoners of war.” To me it carries a worse meaning than “capture”. It implies they are already LOST. This is very sad. Why did they have to die? Why did so many Iraqis have to die? They now blame it all on the US. None of this had to happen. Indeed, this is the worst foreign policy blunder in US history, unless you count Iraq’s “Blood Oil” a worthy cause for so many Americans and Iraqis to die. Bush must be impeached. Bush must go. As far as the damage is concerned, I am not sure the situation in the Middle East is repairable.

What we have here is a prime example of barbarianism unfolding. Whatever may happen to these brave warriors, may God be with them.
As to the loony-kazoony consiracy theorists suffering from B.D.S. (Bush derangement syndrome), I strongly suggest that you talk to an Iraq or Afghan war vet one on one, buy him a meal and ask him for the REAL TRUTH! You will hear what really happens over there from the people in the middle of it. Don’t listen to the media. They are all BIASED, left and right alike! Might as well listen to a bunch of squealing pigs and hens.
Don’t listen to anyone but those who are there. They will give it to you straight. Washington isn’t forthcoming or truthful. The Pentagon only echoes the White House. State Dept is a joke.
Talk to those who are walking the walk.
May God bless all our warriors, wherever they are. And don’t forget their families, either. They are paying a great price as well.

The US should cease support for Israel.
That is what is causing the happy Jihadis to come after us.
We should be boycotting Israel like the UK is

Dan
Could not have said it any better.

Dan,
dont waste your time, these ignorant cowards think all is safe and we should just mind our own business. Those Islamic facist dont want to hurt us, they just want to be understood.
Chris, our support of Israel, is the only reason America continues to exist. once we abbandon Israel, we are doomed.
Hell Chamberland gave up the Sudenland, but I guess Hitler wanted more. Stalin took Hungry, Poland, Vietnam, Chezc. and so on…tyrants and evil do not stop.
Wake the hell up.

Living very close to Fort Drum, the base which is the home to the soldiers, my heart goes out to them and to their families. I’m praying for you all…God Bless!!!

We the People are responsible for placing soldiers in harms way.
We the People are responsible for lack of historical knowledge about the history of Iraq and the story of their suffering.
We the People have the opportunity to end our complicity in the death and destruction of Iraqi’s and Americans.
It is time to make our voices clear to the politicians, pundits and media.
Bring the troops home now!

All i can say is what a pathetic bunch of Dems to not have the cahones to battle terrorists.

Stop blaming Bush for the mess in Iraq! America elected for this guy…..TWICE……
We get the leaders we deserve. This war is all of our faults, otherwise we would IMPEACH him!

I pray for the safe return of the soldiers. However, let us be frank, chances are that they will be kept for along time. Bush, a typical ignorant of world history, thought that Iraq was going to be like Panama. Wrong!
His intellectual capacity does not allow him to grasp the mess he has put all of us. Now we are less safe than before 9/11.

//Did you ever think that just maybe God is punishing the US for the immoralactions of homosexuals and feminists?//
Eric Andresen:
Did you ever think that just maybe God is punishing the US for the bastardization of the message that Jesus taught by Religious Right fundie Christians?

smitty, i dont you know anything about history. especially if you education came from the government run schools and universities.
Our country looks great to those that see that American flag on the tail of an aircraft carring relief supllies around the world. How about you travel to England and France and visit some American cemeteries. you are the un-educated, empty headed MTV watching nut.

President Bush is worried about his passing in the coming years of this eventful “Holy War.”

JT,
TR? You are gonna use him for an argument to SUPPORT your case?
How about chewing on this: TR is one of the countless reasons we have to deal with idiots like Chavez today. Big stick foreign policy created Castro et. al.
EDUCATE YOURSELF!

You Blame America First people are morons. This remains the greatest, most benevolent country on earth. Remember, these people would be burning their crude oil in lamps keeping the camels warm if it wasn’t for the industrialized world. The oil is of value to them because we need it, not because they ever developed anything themselves. Theyir problem is they never had enough courage themselves to form a democracy and wrest the money away from the Saddam Hussein dictators themselves. They now will have a chance once they getsome courage and help us put down the insurgents.

The only good Amerikkan in Iraq is a dead Amerikkkan!!!
As Adolf Bush said, ‘Bring it on’. The decapitation video is on its way, Adolf.
Mulla Osmani

It is not as easy as simply pulling our forces out of Iraq. What will likely emerge is some sort of Lebonized Iraq which will likely provide safe haven and training for terrorists of all stripes. Syria and Iran will have sway here. No matter if you were for or against the war to begin with, there is no easy exit strategy, period. To suggest otherwise is folly.

Smitty: Actually, I have. The problem is, you have to make a choice. Either use the stick, or drop it. We can’t bring ourselves to do either, because we’re so busy shouting at each other that no one’s listening. Both sides have valid points, but they’re so busy shouting them out, they’re not listening to what the other side is saying. Roosevelt was one in a million, single minded and bound to do what he thought was right. He also set aside millions of acres of land for public parks and preservation. He was shot in the chest while mounting the stage at a campaign stop, and got up on stage and made his presentation anyway. He understood that to be respected, you have to be strong. We’re not. The victor writes history. Looks like ours will be written in Pharsee or Arabic.

Abu Ghraib was torture. They put women’s skivvies on the heads of these misogynists and because women are such foul creatures to them they thought it was torture. Having your penis cut off and having it cut up before your eyes is torture, having your eyes gouged out is torture, being fed through a shredder is torture, being locked in a rape room with women hating monsters is torture, watching your wife and daughters being raped is torture, being sliced and diced following the directions in the torture manual found in Iraq last week-well you saw the photos. If wearing women’s panties is torture, I have a whole drawer full I’ll send, I’ll even be willing to pull them over their nasty heads.

I do pray for these guys who have been captured…and for all who are involved in any war…in anyway. War is how Nations are punished. There are many Nations at war right now, so it looks like we are all being punished! We punish ourselves. Now, let’s all take a real good look at our own individual selves and ask “What can I do to change the situation for the better”, and then begin to do it. Still, most of this is out of our hands, because we are NOT the person in control…we only talk like we are! Pray for Peace in each of our hearts, and in our families, then maybe we will truly have peace.

Americans are fed-up with this war. Our government handled the war to passively. To stop the war, you must pull all women, children and US troops out of Iraq. Then drop the BOMB. Problem solved.

Did this sort of thing happen in post-Nazi Germany or post-Hiroshima Japan? Of course not. Those regions were thoroughly occupied and ruled with an iron hand until years afterward, without the media looking over the shoulders of the ruling forces constantly nipping and snipping at the harsh treatments necessary to subdue the populace. When you invade a country, you must crush all resistance and teach potential insurgents hard lessons. You don’t immediately turn around and try to give the country back to many of the same savages you took it from. This is stupid. Get the media out and put the Iraqi populace down!!

Ok, logic, enlighten us with your brilliant historical perspective. If you make accusations without anything to back your claims we are still floundering in our ignorance. Bless us with your information and intelligence.

We are currently involved in a large scale war of attrition with islamists that seek the demise or subjugation of the global community. One needs only ask Indians, Kashmieries, Thais, Philipinos and a host of other nations what this means. Even in western europe, europeans are bending to the will of islamists over issues as basic as freedom of speech lest they offend the newly arrived islamists. Scores have been murdered outright, many more injured or threatened and massive loss of property through muslim protests in places like the Paris suburbs. Is it any wonder Merkel and Sarkosy have been elected? In Holland, Paris, London, and other locales, traditional western culture is being trampled upon by a muslim minority that seeks to change the societies into which they have immigrated so as to reflect their world view. It is very popular to hate the United States, Americans and loath US foreign policy, but I assure you that many in Europe are silently happy to see the US pushing back. There is a demographic time bomb in Europe that is currently underway and leading to the depopulating of traditional europeans and an explosion of non european imigrants. In 50 years, Europe will be a very different place and that will be too bad.

funny craig, many people would say the exact same thing about the USA.

With the money that has been spent on this so called “war” the usa could have cured world hunger, educated the world, or have sent every american child to a four year college. which one of these would have made a BETTER difference on the world, war or one of these?

Anyone can be a “Monday morning quarterback.” It’s easy to sound knowledgeable after the fact. These people have been taught since birth that non-Muslims are infidels, and that they must strive to create Allah’s army by eliminating everyone else. There are extremists in every religion, but when was the last time a Methodist extremist blew themselves up outside of a Catholic church? Name one radical Lutheran cleric, or presbtyrian, baptist, etc. If you honestly believe that we wouldn’t be fighting these people on our own soil, then maybe you should watch the news more often…as a matter of fact, do a search for JFK AIRPORT!!!

you can pick one side, or the other, but let it be known, when your parties come crashing down, this country will go to the actual smart people. the atheists.

andrew, why don’t you fly to Iraq today if you are to old to fight I’m sure they could use you gasing up equipment or working on the chow line, this war is a waste, a waste of lives, treasury,and resources, Jimmy Carter was right it is the worst decision in American history, our only hope is to come up with something that eliminates the need for middle east oil and yet those people kill each other

I am a veteran and YES Bush has made a mess and a joke to the rest of the world of our Army. Look at what the conservatives have done to our country. What a shame.

Speaking of JFK airport, how do all of you Bush-haters feel about the Patriot Act now? Maybe the ACLU should investigate possible civil rights violations by the government for tapping these terrorist’s phone lines! “Bush lied to the American people…” Okay, about what? I’ve been to Iraq, and my unit captured several weapons systems capable of launching chemical weapons. Was it about oil? Maybe. If you don’t like that, ride a bike. Ask Russia what happens when a country doesn’t have an adequate oil supply…people freeze to death. But I suppose that’s no longer possible with global warming and all… Maybe if the tree huggers would allow us to establish our own oil reserve, this wouldn’t be a problem.

Does anyone here have an original thought in their head? I’ve scrolled through it all and feel as if I’m watching two talking heads on the news slinging tired old slogans they don’t understand very well at one another. People who think this is all about “fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here” are unbelievably gullible to think Islamic militants are that kind of threat. People who think we can pray our way out of anything are sadly misguided. People who think Bush is what’s wrong with America right now are blind to the reality in which they live. Get off your lazy blogging a$$es and do something to make your government more accountable to you! The reason there is a cohort of incompentent bumpkins in power right now is because no one paid attention when we elected them, no one cared! And now that it really matters we’re all surprised to find ourselves completely disengaged from any meaningful democratic process. Seriously, how many of you angry bloggers do anything political but sit at your computers and fume?!!

hakkkim, give me a break! The US has dished out trillions of dollars to fight poverty in our country to no avail. Throwing money at problems is too frequently a pretty simplistic solution. So throwing money at problems in countries without representational form of govt will solve those problems? I’m not so trusting in the good will of others.

Hey Dala, so blame the USA and President Bush for the brutal murder of our troops???? Get your head out of your ass. Vet? My ass!!!

Hey Randy, 3000 Dead in NYC and you STILL don’t get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have your head up your ass just like Mr. Dala. Perhaps a jihadist boot on your neck, then a dull knife blade will convince you, eh?

YOU KNOW WHO’S SICK, YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE BLAMING BUSH FOR THE ABDUCTIONS.

More young men & women killed over a war that we had no business being in. I honestly don’t know how GW lies with himself.

Hey Olga, the war isn’t over because the enemy won’t stop fighting. The war will be over when the terrorists are defeated. They won’t stop fighting us in Iraq even if we do leave. Even the Defeatocrats know that.

All if fair in love and war.
We’re occupiers in Iraq, plain and simple. We get what’s coming to us.
I feel sorry for the soldiers….they are there because there is lots of money to be made for the neo-cons.
BTW, where the hell is Osama?

Steve,
Libs hate America and the US Military. It is as simple as that. I wonder how many of the folks who jumped out of the WTC were libs?????

this was not our war to be fought. there were no terrorist in iraq but someone decided that it was a good idea to go and “help” the people there. we are only making it worse not only are they fighting us but each other. we caused a civil war because “the decider” did not know what to do once it was clear there was no omore threat there, he just waited until there was and now thousands of people will never return home

Interesting how the word “coward” is misused in this context.
These insurgents are not cowards. They are savages, heartless and uncivilized. Someone civilized shows restraint with the power they have. We could do a lot more bad things to them than we do, because we are civilized and show restaint. But they don’t. They torture whoever they get their hands on for maximum media impact.
But I think they’re actually quite courageous. Some of these attacks were brazen, and they also risk their lives everyday. So why keep calling them cowards? They’re up against the greatest army in the world. I’s say it’s pretty impressive the resistance they’ve put up. They definitely use dirty tactics because it’s their nature.

Only the myopic will continue to believe that “the war” should have only been fought in Afghanistan and not Iraq or anywhere else. Why they choose to lack the democratic courage, intellectual honesty and willingness to act to stop this unrestrained Islamic revolution that is spreading from Iran through Iraq, Lebanon, the Palestinian territory, and around the world is unbelievable. They refuse to learn from history. Had we stopped Hitler early on, 61 million people would not have died. They proved on 9/11 that their choice is to fight us on our soil. The first World Trade Center explosion under the Clinton administration should have waked us up, but only served as a precursor to 9/11. 9/11, under the current administration, could be a precursor to our next president presiding over a nuclear 9/11. Wake up America, they don’t care if we are democratic or republican. Their ideology views us as the great Satan and no amount of appeasement or diplomacy works with them. They have one goal in mind: convert you to Islam or slit your throat.

SAC; Strategic Air Command could handle all of this in short order…………

As tragic as this may sound, we’ve only lost around 3,000 servicemen and women. Every day we loose servicemen to training accidents and mishaps. My wife has lost a cousin and a more distant relative and I also am a veteran who has lost folks I’ve known in war. Having said that, it is hard to imagine a war going on this long and with this type of war fighting with so few casulties. As for the comments about 100,000s of thousands of civilians being killed b/c of US forces…total nonsense. First off, those numbers are inflated. 2nd, most of those civilians who have been killed lost their lives through sectarian violence. The US military goes to great lengths and often at the risk of their own lives, to prevent the deaths of innocents. While it is tragic when it happens, the loss of innocents. We have the most professional and most technologically advanced military in the world.

HOW WOULD YOU REACT IF A WAR PROFITEER INVADED YOUR COUNTRY FOR IT’S RESOURCES AND TORTURED, RAPED, AND SLAUGHTERED YOUR FAMILY AND TURNED YOUR COUNTRY INTO A DISASTER AND A WAR ZONE?
YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE DOING THE SAME THING TO THE INVADERS.
THEY HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY, GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND STOP DOING THIS TO OUR PEOPLE AND WE WILL STOP.
GET OUT.

Hey RANDY?
I guess you think people shooting at american troops inside Iraq are not classified as enemies? They are terrorist and they want to kill americans. Simple fact.
And also, im tired of hearing them run their mouths. I wish Bush would take all of our military, and drive right down their land. Show them who will win. Ill join up and fight. I don’t have a problem with it. I know that i won’t go up and hide like they do. They are COWARDS.

No quarter asked; no quarter given;
William Quantrell

y dont u do more news on the iraq war i want to see more of was going on b/c my dads their and i want to see whats its like over their so can u plz do more on iraq and the war plz o plz.

Yeah that’s it! One man is responsible for all of this! What a bunch of idiots, including any American that would say this is all the Presidents fault! Please educate yourselves!

Iraq isn’t better for the women there. They used to enjoy more freedom than women of any other Middle East country. The U.S. government’s puppet government supports tribal and Islamic groups that have stripped women of their rights. The new Iraq will be an Islamic state. Just exactly what will we have accomplished.
The U.S. government is looking out for corporate interests (oil) and will align itself with any group(s) necessary to attain that goal. It supported Saddam at one time….his gassing the Kurds wasn’t an issue when we were selling him chemical weapons.
I am American and I believe this war is immoral.

I love the liberal left so much. They are very useful idiots for our destruction of America.
The Bush hating, America hating leftist or my favorite allies, almost as much as the Democrats.
Thank you for being so ignorant and we will reward you when we defeat the great satan!
UBL

to iihahs :
You little coward, come to France and tell this to the french man to man. We are sick of ignorant people like yourself taking every excuse to insult your oldest ally. Without us and Lafayette you would be probaly sipping tea at five o clock and have the queen on your bank note.
You haven’t got it and stopped thinking 4 years ago after being brainwashed by the neocons. But make a little effort to look at the reality. First, if you would have listened to us you would not be loosing this war and your boys would not get killed or abducted. Second, only the rednecks like yourselves think France acted cowardly, the rest of the world gives us credit tho have had the guts to tell the truth. Third, Bush harmed more the US than OBL in running the war and the occupation as efficiently as FEMA did of Katrina. These boys are the victims of your incompetent leaders.

Do you suppose that they were treated as well as the prisoners we have at Gitmo?
Do you think they were given new bibles when they were captures?
Do you think they were given time to pray during the day?
Do you think they had an exercise yard?
Do you think they were given western style food to eat?
Do you think the were visited by the Red Cross?
Still, libs think what we do at Gitmo is unspeakable.

AND, REMEMBER, IRAQ HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11. IT WAS ALL A LIE TO INVADE IRAQ FOR THE OIL AND WAR PROFITEERING. IT WAS PLANNED BEFORE 9-11.
THE 9-11 TERRORISTS WERE SAUDIS. BUT THE BUSH FAMILY IS VERY CLOSE TO THE SAUDIS, THEY’VE MADE MILLIONS TOGETHER. THEY EVEN ALLOWED THE SAUDIS TO LEAVE AMERICA WHEN NO PLANES WERE ALLOWED TO FLY.
ATTACKING IRAQ EQUATES TO ATTACKING MEXICO AFTER PEARL HARBOR. INSANE.

NEWS STINKS

For the people b****ing about this war, and the oil it may or may not be over, what would America do without oil? This is immoral? No, killing innocent people is immoral, Adolf Hitler was immoral, bombing Pearl Harbor was immoral, but this? What is your definition of immoral? Defending a nation who cannot defend itself? Oh yeah, Mr. “Run down to the recruiters office”, I leave for Medic training in Texas in less than a month, my dads in Iraq along with many other close family memebers! Grow some and stop complaining about of Commander in Chief!

Hey Linda…I’m too old to enlist, but my son has marched down to the enlisters office and will be gone soon. My nephew also marched down to the enlistment office and is slated to be in Iraq in October. We aren’t brown-nosers….we just simply support America and its ideals.

Hmmm…seems to me it’s time to bring back small pox and make its home that crap hole called the middle east! Ebola is my second choice…..I am ready to come down and grab those heartless souls!

I never vote straight ticket for ANY election. I vote for the LESSER of EVILS. I think all Politicians are in it to feather their own nests and not FOR THE PEOPLE. Sooooo, ALL YOU BUSHITES, quit getting defensive when he gets BASHED for the MESS HE HAS PUT US IN. NOW– I now CHALLENGE YOU to head straight for YOUR nearest ARMY RECRUITER, or SEND YOUR OWN OFFSPRING!!! THAT’S THE BEST WAY TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT for “THE DUBBYA”. . . DO IT, OR QUIT WHINING WHEN HE GETS BASHED. . ,

Why must people continue to blame George Bush for all this crap going on? Get a backbone people! It’s not about throwing blame from one person to another… these are our sons that have been taken from us! Show some respect! And could someone please translate all that crap on the video! How in the H*ll are we to understand what these morons are saying! And the music… good grief, it makes me nauseas!

Grow some and stop complaining about of Commander in Chief!
Posted by: Anthony | Jun 4, 2007 12:52:37 PM
Haha, let me guess, you have a GED, right? You arent capable of simple reason, just emotional blabbage.

HAS EVERYONE Forgotten 9/11????????
Shouldn’t we be concerned for the MISSING guys and not screaming about HOW Horrible the BUSH administration IS…
If you are SO upset about our “REGIME” Then get off your BUTT and get OUT there and DO something about it… Quit Sitting on your computers CRYING about it.
Personally I’m praying that GOD yes the ONE True GOD will be with these young men and there Families whatever the outcome.

“That’s it! The US should impose marshall law, a state of emergency in Iraq until the efficient insitutions and capable, reliable law enforcement bodies are in place. you can’t be democratic before that!”
There will never be democracy in Iraq. It is incompatible with an Islamic state. Iraq will be like Iran.

Amazing that the left is so brainwashed as to forget about the global intelligence community and the thought that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (as did the previous Clinton administration). Moreover, Iraq attempted to assasinate formr. Pres Bush 41 for which Clinton bombed in retaliation. Moreover, Iraq failed to follow the terms of their surrender and provide unfettered access to all sites, anywhere the inspectors wanted to go and also account for all of the chemical agents that were unaccounted for. Each one of these is cause for war. It is easy to look back and see where we (yes we) made mistakes. However it is intellectually dishonest to extract the current situation from the series of events and historical context of what preceeded. Bush has clearly made mistakes. What president has not made mistakes in a time of war. President Clinton could have done much more to curb the rise of global terrorism, but he didn’t. Though he can’t be blamed entirely simply b/c he had no idea what was to follow. Our leaders have their faults, but like all of his predecessors, I think Bush has clearly tried to do what he thought was best at the time. It is wrong headed to suggest, as some have, that he has gone to war for profit….give me a break.

this is for the liberals who think that they will be save from attack from the terrorist.In 1993 the twin towers were attack by terrorists people die.who was president at that time?clinton, the terrorist went on to attack five countries that the united states had interest.americans died and clinton did not do a damn thing.The cole was attack and 18 sailors died. clinton did not do a damn thing.Saddam hussein had to be taken out be cause he was firing on our planes in a no fly zone.he defy the UN 18 resolutions.He was paying 25,000 dollars to suicide bombers familes.Now liberals we are in Iraq fighting al qeda and we most prevail in this fight.Bush did the right thing in taking out Saddam.Bush rocks demos suck!!!!!

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Also does anyone remember hearing about the attempted terrorist attack at JFK Airport, or just a couple weeks ago at Ft.Dix? These people are after Americas blood? There is no morality in that, just plain hatred?

I feel sorry for the youngsters who are suckered in by the Bush Gang lies. They still think Saddam attacked us, they think Iraqis are the enemy, they think they are defending this country. They need to grow some brain matter.
They are just pawns in the Bush Gang grab for world domination and money.
They need to do some research before they throw their lives away. Bush has cut funding for the care of those who return without limbs, blind, deaf, burned, and brain deficient. But, he has made sure the super-rich get huge tax cuts and the defense contractors have never had it so good. Cheney is making billions with his Halliburton connection. But, the soldiers come back to ruined lives, physically, mentally, and emotionally. Wake up!

Light up the whole area, drop a nuke, melt the sand….turn into glass, then shatter it again.
This is a 3rd world county. it isnt Bush there have been problems long before Bush was in office. Clinton didn’t bother with the problems when he was in office. Once Bush is gone do you really think all will then end with hugs??
NUKE THEM ALL !

In war, away games are better than home games.

The United States is being attacked by Isrlamic Funamentalists because of our support for Israel.
It is as simple as that. We need to abandon our unquestioning support of Israel.
$4 billion of taxpayers money is given to Israel every year. What exactly o we get for that payment?
We need to tell our senators that if they continue to support Israel, they best go looking for another job.

I think it would be great if a few of the folks making unsubstantiated accusations would read the 9/11 Commission Report. Even with Jamie Gorelick trying to hide her part in the run up to 9/11 and Sandy Berger stuffing classified documents in his socks and skivvies, then “accidentally” cutting them into tiny pieces, there were still enough facts to refute most of the wacky comments made by the more uninformed among us. I do have one or two small questions that are somewhat off topic. If the Iraq War was all about oil is there anyone here willing to give up their petroleum based transportation, heating and other niceties? Should we drill in ANWAR to lessen our dependence on Iraqi oil? I hear a lot of complaining about the price of gasoline, suppose there was no gasoline? Just a thought.

“michael554, good luck in medic school. I assume you’ll be in the Army Medic program at Ft. Sam Houston. Good program and you should enjoy San Antonio before being assigned to permanent party. I passed through the program in 1984 as did my future (and current)wife.
Good luck and stay safe”
Thanks, pretty nervous, it’s supposed to be like four months. My dad is Infantry but talking to him in Iraq , he says it would be better for me to get something I can come out with. I wanted to go infantry like my dad but my wife and I are kinda going “50/50″ on this whole thing so I am doing 68W!
Thanks for the input!

This war could be won if we were just willing to REALLY take the gloves off, and not give a damn what the other, insane part of the world think about us or what we do. In any case, it is going to come to this conclusion eventually. It will either be initiated by us or by Israel in the next 1-3 years.
Turn Iran into a sheet of green glass. This will be justified due to their constant threats to wipe Israel off the map. It will also be better than what will result if Iran does ever manage to put together a crude device and setting it off in Tel Aviv. If that happens, what do you suppose will happen over the 24 hours that follows? Say good bye to Damascus, Tehran….. Mecca? Restraint is not a word that will be on the minds of the people of Israel that will be responding to this horrific act of terrorism.
So, why wait for it to occur? Let’s start talking about taking care of business now. History has shown that the only thing these animals understand is to be hit in the head with a hammer.

If we treated our war prisoners as they treat prisoners, this war would have been long over. Torture? Please!
Liberals want the freedom but aren’t willing to pay for it.
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This is dead on!

Anthony, thanks for becoming a medic. As a former combat soldier, your our guardian angle. Your the one who brings soldiers back from the edge when their wounded or is the last to comfort them at the end. We never forget medics. We called ours “Sammy D”, he dragged me out of that burning hummer while they were shooting at us. Saved my life and the life of one of guys trying to kill us.
Stay low and keep safe Anthony

ABC is always quick to shill for the maggot-infested terrorist scum. What the Islamists fail to publicize the lame-stream media more than makes up for it.

Our soldiers may have been tortured and beheaded, but hopefully they were spared the ultimate abuse- being dressed up in Halloween costumes and having their genitals pointed at while a dog is barking at them.
If only we hadnt invaded Iraq, all this wouldnt have happened. No 9/11, no USS Cole, no Embassy bombings in Africa,no Khobar towers.
Wake up liberals, your living in a dream world.

I agree PAT. From all these radical postings it is clear that America is divided about the war. Yet still most us the war as a reason of greed and Bush Bashing.. This war for ISlam was started way before anything BUSH did. These people are generation of genration of hatred and use Islam as a reason to kill anybody that doesn’t agree with them.. PEACE! It’s the only answer.

All we can do is pray that these men were Christians and with that knowledge comes the peace in knowing that they will eternally be at peace. We must do what we can to pray for and support the families of these men and women who die in Iraq, yes, because of BUSH.
Years ago, I lost a friend who vehemently supported Bush and his then proposed invasion of Iraq. We did not see eye to eye on the human aspect of politics, that Iraqi children deserve to live as much as American children. I stood and continue to stand on the principle that human life is human life, and MY BIBLE says that God is no respecter of persons and we are all his children. We differ in how we believe we are to get back to God and THAT is why this war, a holy war, can never be “won”, and will continue on and on…
Although fascists and murderists, one has to try to see that although (it is a warped, distorted and inhumane view) that these extremists feel they are not only defending their culture, way of life and faith, but their eternal existence.
As a Christian, if Indiana were invaded tomorrow and what was done to Iraq was done to my homestate, I would not be out to murder, but I would be out to defend my child, family and community against any way of life that differed with my Christian views and ability to worship.
It is dictated in end times that such things will occur. What Bush’s lies and incompetence have done is almost something that he can be thanked for, if you look at it with a spiritual eye.
He has purported circumstances escalating Biblical prophecy and end times.
Tonight, when the families of these men lie down to sleep, I hope they will remember the big picture and that there sons ARE really home.
For the rest of us, it’s long past time to GET RIGHT, or GET LEFT.
God is good, all the time. And it’s so comforting to know that you’re on the winning side of the ultimate war.
God bless

Randy,
Trust me, your head is up your ass. al-Qaeda has proclaimed Iraq to be their central front against the USA. What? You don’t believe them??????? Now we know where they are and fortunately we have brave Americans willing to go over there and KILL THEM!!!!!

A true leader would have never invaded Iraq. Resorting to war, the lowest common denominator, shows that you have no other plan and no ability to encourage other alternatives. We cannot ‘lose’ in Iraq in the ‘future’ because we have already ‘lost’ in Iraq by choosing to attack in the first place. It is time for Bush to be impeached to make room for a true leader to solve the mess the coward neoconservatives have created for the world.

To NavyN2…God bless you and Thank You! To Andrew….I love what you said…copy, paste it and say it again. You made a lot of sense and I couldn’t repeat it any better. To Linda…thank you to your family for the support of the troops and your own family’s service.
I too have been reading many posts….there is too much hate and “whose side are you on” here. We’re all Americans people. We need to all be on one side and quit with the hatred and name calling. It’s silly, it disgusting, and it isn’t Christian. Agree or disagree…that’s great. But we don’t need to hate. That is just wrong.

“It is dictated in end times that such things will occur. What Bush’s lies and incompetence have done is almost something that he can be thanked for, if you look at it with a spiritual eye.”
Yes, God does love a good fight.

By the way, WHAT IS THE WEBSITE that released this information? How does ABCNEWS find these websites when NOBODY in the public can find them? They obviously don’t use ‘GOOGLE’, because you can see for yourself the information is not archived there. ABCNEWS — WHERE did you get this terrorist ‘statement’ from? WHEN did you receive it? WHO forwarded the information to you? These are important questions that the public demands answers to. Otherwise, there is no reason to believe any of this is not the result of disinformation by an intelligence agency to sway public opinion one way or the other.

IF THE $5 OR $6 BILLION THAT HAS BEEN WASTED EVERY MONTH FOR LAST 4 YEARS WAS SPENT ON FINDING BIN LADEN, INSTEAD OF INVADING IRAQ, WE WOULDN’T BE IN THIS MESS.
5$ OR 6$ BILLION A MONTH IS A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON SECURING THIS COUNTRY, ON INTELLIGENCE, AND ON EDUCATION AND HEALTH CARE.
BUT, THE BUSH GANG FEELS IT’S BETTER IN THEIR FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNTS THAN IN DOING ANY GOOD FOR AMERICA.
I WONDER WHY THE BUSH FAMILY BOUGHT OVER 10,000 ACRES IN PARAGUAY AND HAD THEIR GOVERNMENT DECLARE IT’S A SAFE HAVEN FOR WAR CRIMINALS ????

Anthony
I don’t care who supports Israel. As long as it is not the United States.
I want my children to grow to a ripe old age, and if sacrificing Israel is the cost of that then so be it.
$4 billion a year would improve the education facilities in the US immeasurably. Or we could always use it to provide healthcare to the 44 million Americans who have none.
Charity should begin at home.

OK, let me get this straght. Savages kidnapping, mistreating(and maybe murdering) innocent troops is BUSH/OUR fault? What kinda messed in the head logic/morality is that? By that same logic, a rape victim shoud be blamed for how she’s dressed or where she’s at when the act occured. Not to mention all the soldiers are doing is trying to protect either a) Iraqis or b) people trying to REBUILD iraq. These are the same savages who kill other iraqis simply because, they’re not “Islamic enough”.The depths to which some of you sink to just to bash Bush is despicable. Don’t vote or reproduce.

Lost in the arguments about the wisdom of the war, President Bush’s strategy, etc., is the sick cruelty of the so-called “insurgents.” Our isolated wartime atrocities are condemned by our leaders and people. These people justify and celebrate cruelty, maiming, torture and murder of two soldiers who were ordinary US citizens doing their job. Whatever you may think of the US, this distinguishes us from our adversaries. And if the “insurgents”/Al Qaeda want the world to be like them, small wonder those with rational minds and hearts and concern for all men oppose them.

My heart is broken. If these soldiers tour in Iraq wasn’t extended, then this crap would’nt have happened. My husband always says that I live in a fantasy world, but I pray that these men are somewhere safe and in good health.
Fort Drum Wife

How did a 19yo KID get caught up in this mess. We should be ashamed of ourselves not looking after our own NEXT generation and being in this mess in the first place!!

Do not blame Bush, blame ourselves for being so passive and letting it come to this. The only way to win ANY WAR, is with an iron fist. Not hide in compunds and go out on patrol waiting for someone to hit us with IED’s or guerilla tactics. We need to have soldiers, mainly Iraqi, on every corner of every neighborhood in Bagdad. Too many soldier’s you say? Get more and watch it come to an end. We need to have a million Iraqi and coalition forces spredout through the volatile regions. The people of that country will feel safer in reporting where these cowards hide. LARGE NUMBERS!

If you search the internet (for those who don’t know) Bush feels ‘God told him’ to into Iraq.
As a Christian, that is to be tested to see if it aligns with our scripture, the Bible.
“Ye shall know them by their fruits” – ‘fruit’ in the bible normally refers to character traits. The ‘fruits’ of the spirit, are love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, humility, self-control.
God is merely telling others that we will know disciples (followers of Christ) by these fruits. When people DELIBERATELY LIE, or err without repenting, you can pretty well figure that these are not followers of Christ.
OMHO, but the money spent on invading Iraq could have been put to better use in perfecting our Intelligence. Lay low and gather facts, then if necessary talk softly but carry a big stick. Drop a big bomb where most of the Alqueda cells were plotting.
War is justified in the bible, but only under certain conditions. I don’t think Bush heard more than an imaginary voice in his head.
That being said, what do we do now? Ideally, Bush admit he went about this the wrong way, like Nixon did, and step down.
Act in haste repent in leasure. We’re seeing that proverb in it’s purest form.
Would someone please tell me how do we solve this problem and return Iraq to the liveable state it was before the war?
If you have no answer to that, how do you feel the war will end? Is there any reason for optisim now that the Bush vision is making progress at all, for all those who believe we should be there?

America how do YOU like being held captive by a dry drunk AWOL male cheerleader too incompetent to be a real Commander in Chief?
Has any other president simultaneously lost two wars?
How is your Boy King looking now?

Vice President Dick Cheney’s Halliburton stock options have risen 3,281 percent in the last year, RAW STORY can reveal.
Cheney’s options — worth $241,498 a year ago — are now valued at more than $8 million.
YES, WAR IS PROFITABLE.

Ah, but I know all about Genesis, but thank you for pointing it out.
In your anger and judgment, you didn’t realize that I was saying there is a correlation between our support of Israel, but didn’t get that AS A CHRISTIAN, I, of course, believe that support should be there. It’s scripture based.
I forgive you for jumping to conclusions.

I have a great idea. Why don’t we try swapping captured American soldiers with some of the politicians who are responsible for putting so many innocent young men in this situation in the first place. The president should be the first to go. He should have no problem negotiating with his captors since he’s such an expert on this whole useless war anyway. The problem is that the Iraqis probably won’t want him. He is a laughing stock both Stateside and overseas as well.

as I have read all the comments these young men are probably dead trying to save the United States, the world and many of the idiots who have made derogatory comments rather than praying for safety of these young men.
Please remember history.WAR has been with us since the beginning of time. Man cannot live within his family and has destroyed them how can we all expect to live with people who have different viewpoints and so on goes destruction in the world.
To live in peace I doubt it will ever happen.Rather than complain please PRAYERS FOR THE SOLDIERS.
POLITCAL CORRECTNESS HAS DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY.

READ YOUR BIBLE AMERICA
“Ye though I say unto you, they shall raise up the least among them to the highest post and he shall appear as a monkee. The sheep shall follow and the lies shall flow like water from the sea. They shall believe his deceptions and follow him unto war with the wrong nation. And Cheney will shoot a guy in the face too.”
Lobotomy 9:11

Your Conscience
Do you still live with your mom?

bush should step down, cheney would be better! ooh rah!!

Fear of the Terrorists, and courage to oppose them, is of course a priority. Trailing not far behind as a priority is fear of collaborators, who would justify the Torture and Murder of US Prisoners… so they could get their digs in on Bush. Absolutely disgusting, but Absolutely deadly: they poison the wells of American Resolve…..

Anthony, No and I do not live in denial as you do.
You see child there are conscequences for supporting, enabling, and excusing a dry drunk AWOL male cheerleader as an incompetent failure in chief. Stick you head further up your colon but no matter how much you spin your handed the crushing verdict of history.
HISTORICAL COLLOSAL FAILURE.

Please don’t put us all in one basket as far as hating Bush. I don’t hate Bush at all, I’m just giving him full credit for getting this country into this mess. He is guilty of making the decision to invade Iraq and to continue to deploy troops. That is fact, not fiction, conjecture, or opinion.
I just watched some local boys getting ready to go to training in preparation for an 18 month tour in Iraq. Let me tell you that they broke my heart as they told their families goodbye and made comments like ‘regardless of what happens’ (meaning, if I don’t come back)
Keep telling yourselves Bush isn’t the reason they are going (they know it’s true). Keep telling yourselves that playing the name game is doing anyone any real good. The reason I get involved in discussions of this nature at all is to remind everyone what is really important.
But some will never listen and seek to destroy, rather than build up. For you, as well as our president, I pray for wisdom, peace and an eye to things unseen.
Take care all.
Louise

Why does everyone that blames Bush for these attacks not give him credit for saving so many lives here in the US. What about the foiled Fort Dix, or the JFK Airport, or all the other foiled attempts we don’t ever hear about? Why not give Bush credit for things done right, instead of just bashing him for soldiers who died to the hands of terrorists?

Hey I didn’t know that Bush was a “dry drunk AWOL male cheerleader as an incompetent failure in chief”! I thought he was a Yale graduate? Do you know where Yale is? It’s in New Haven, Connecticut and is one of America most prestigious schools? How about you? All them big words? You must be smart enough to become the next President, replace Bush, maybe solve the problems in the Middle East?
Bush, so incompetent?

Wow.
The “real” crime is aid some of these dimwits give daily to the enemy. Bush is the cause of the jihad? Hardly. These people are simple fools. Let the jihadists have them; they will sooner or later anyway with such thinking.

Reality Check!
Islamic fundamentalists are just that, fundamental, ie: very basic and are easily misinformed, misused and tragically mistaken. It is a mind set that is taught by imams for their own means. Arabs see cease fires as the means to rearm and reorganize. They only understand power. They laugh at negotiations, cease-fires and “dialogue”, something which some of our elected officials don’t or won’t understand. Look, the suicide bombers weren’t suicidal, they were murdered. The backpacks were wired to cell phone fuses. When a caller called those numbers (all the same number) they exploded those bombs on their backs, killing them and anyone else in their area. That’s not suicide, that’s homicide. Now fast forward to our media’s inability to understand that they are being manipulated by these same people who designed these bombing techniques. We’re the unlucky ones who can decide to tolerate this conduct or look elsewhere (internet) for our information. I quit watching TV about 4 years ago and I am really amazed at how gullible some Americans are. What I learned to do and still do today, is hear/read a sentence and then enter that sentence in quotes on google and viola, the source is usually revealed and I get to see what the media editors decided to leave out or reword for effect. It’s blatant disinformation and it reminds me of the soviet tactics during the cold war. Quit fighting amongst yourselves. Remember, we are being divided to be conquered. That’s the most successful way to fight a strong enemy. Learn your history people. Don’t be duped anymore. The enemy hates us and uses those that don’t or won’t understand until it’s too late. Heed their warnings. The enemy means to deprive you of your soul, unless you convert to Islam. This isn’t political, it’s for real. In my lifetime it was the axis powers, then the communists, now the islamic fascists. Who’s next? Because WE are still here.

Eric where is your head? Do you know how many UN resolutions were written to avoid a war with Iraq. Bill Clinton bombed Iraq what do you think of him?

LA and other liberals all whine, cry, and make infantile claims of hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties, yet none cite specific and credible sources. Just goes to show that libs are all shout/cry/scream, and no substance.
By the way, While Saddam rules iraq, he caused more than 2 million deaths among the peoples of Iraq, Iran, and Kuwait, not to mention coalition casualties for the two gulf wars. You can look that up in history textbooks, as those are plain FACTS!

Your Conscience:
Clintoon was the first president elected with a criminal record. He dodged the draft for the Vietnam war.
Get your facts straight, lying lib!

Your Conscience: Really burns your *ss that GW was elected TWICE, doesn’t it? I mean, why would the American people elect a loser like that, when they’ve got someone like YOU that should be leading us? Good thing you can come on a board like this and flame a medic in training. The chicks really dig that stuff.

Eric: Yup, very strange that an organization with this on their homepage would find any intel to distribute, then clam up about where they got it -
“SITE Institute Intelligence Subscription Service
“By monitoring terrorist and extremist websites and penetrating password-protected Al Qaeda linked sites, SITE provides a state-of-the-art intelligence service to both practitioners and analysts to understand the adversary.” – Rohan Gunaratna, Author, Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror (Columbia University Press)
Studying the primary source propaganda, training manuals, and chatter of terrorists offers insight into terrorists and their activities that can not be obtained anywhere else. Failing to monitor terrorist propaganda is a failure in intelligence. To fulfill this need, the SITE Institute offers its Intelligence Subscription Service, which provides numerous daily translations of terrorist propaganda and multimedia from primary source terrorist websites. “

To Chris
You need a trip down to Washington D.C. and visit the National Holocaust Museum.
We can’t forget what happened to the Jews. We must always support Israel!!
It’s people like you that helped support the 1940′s Jewish annihilation. If we aren’t careful it will happen again.

My grandson enlisted in the USMC last Thursday, my husband spent 30 years in the Marine Corps, including two tours in Viet Nam along with various other hot spots around the world, one of my daughters served in the USMC during Desert Storm. I’m proud of their service and proud to be a Marine wife, mother and now grandmother. When I read some of these postings it seems as though history started for some people here last week, maybe the week before. Sadly, it seems as though some of that history was learned from comic books or writings on rest room stalls. Maybe the schools didn’t teach civics, the Constitution or critical thinking. There are some posters displaying actual knowledge about current and historical events and it gives me a little hope. But to read the constant hate filled spewings of people who seem to have no real understanding beyond their own four walls makes me queasy. I remember my husband coming home from Viet Nam and being spit on by people who called him a baby killer. I remember watch Vietnamese mothers throwing their newborns over the US Embassy fence lest they fall into the hands of the North Vietnamese, I remember the pitiful boat people. Most of all I remember the shame of seeing our Congress break our government’s promise to continue funding and air support to the South Vietnamese, who were winning the war. We didn’t lose the Viet Nam war, we gave it away and then sat idly by as the Cambodians, Hmong and South Vietnamese were tortured and slaughtered because of the perfidy of the US Congress. I remember Carter refusing to stand by our staunch friend, the Shah of Iran and, in stead, assist the rise of fundamental Islam in Iran. As thanks for that kind assistance our hostages were held for 444 days. When I read the postings of the blissfully unaware, my heart aches because I see it happening all over again. Our wonderful men and women are laboring under hate from their own countrymen as well as from the Islamists. They try to fight while encumbered by rules of engagement that don’t allow them to vigorously defend themselves, they are fighting the Islamists and political correctness and I see from some postings today, they are fighting to defend people who are totally ignorant of the honor and integrity displayed on a daily basis by these very young men and women. The least we can do is understand the basic issues so that someone might believe there is intelligence on earth, at least this part of it.

This may have been mentioned in a previous posting…..that information and photos of the missing soldiers have been on the Michael Savage website for almost a week. The traditional news media has been slow in reporting on this story. A subtle tipoff occurred about two weeks ago when nothing more was heard regarding the U.S. military’s 24/7 search for the missing soldiers. Too bad that both Republicans and Democrats are out to lunch on almost every serious issue, both foreign and domestic, that affect average American citizens. Most people could care less about Nancy Pelosi’s plane or Alberto Gonzalez’s emails.

Hey all you ignorant jackasses that still support Bush as he trashes our country our tradition our history. Here are the facts that FOX news still misleads you over.
1)America has no history of preemptive strikes. We lived for 5o years with thousands of russian missles pointed at us but did not attack the soviet union.
We had presidents who used diplomacy and
intelligence instead of nuking the whole world and facing retaliation which would have destroyed the world. Reagan dimantled the soviet union without firing a shot and Bush the Jackass cannot win against a second world nation after 4 years of the best military in the world at his disposal. He only played president and soldier like a five year old kid prancing about his aircraft carrier with his toy soldier uniform.
2)Congress did not authorize war they authorized the president to use force if
and only if it was absolutely necessary
and Bush and Rove only consolidated their political power by scaring americans and using propaganda to win elections. After all Bush did not get reelected on his record of success and everything he has touched has failed miserably.
3) There was no WMD in Iraq nor enough chemcal and biological weapons to truly threaten America.
4) Bush has used propaganda and lies to manipulate americans to follow his hidden agenda right from the start. Go back and read his speeches every month he found a new reason to invade Iraq AFTER he had already started the war.
a) WMD
b) Iraq responsible for 9/11
c) Regime Change Genocide
d) American security
e) Democracy in Middle East
f) Kill them over there rather than
here
g) Prevent Civil War in Iraq
h) Iraqi freedom
etc etc etc……….. all lies…..
There is everwhelming proof this administration lied twisted the truth cherry picked intelligenge and used propaganda to coerce americans into fear and believing their agenda. Bush has failed every foreign policy goal he has started and the Neo Cons dreamed up.
And so deep in the lies deception and incompetence Bush will let thousands more americans die before he lets go of his precious legacy. History will judge Bush even worse then Nixon.
Our military deserves our support by insistence they not be allowed to pay for Bush mistakes with their lives minds and limbs. Bring them home NOW !
Bush has accomplished nothing in Iraq except hanging the old man he found in a rat hole. The country is worse off today with a hundred thousand Iraqis dead woman raped children killed. No water sewage elctricity secuity and a raging religous sectarian civil war that will last 50 years. Freedom ? Bush has only brought death destruction humiliation and a future where death will be a daily way of life for all Iraqis. No wonder the iraqis Bush “saved” think by a 70 % margin it is ok to kill americans and less than 5 % help us find insurgents.
3300 + US soldiers killed 15,000 + US soldiers seriously wounded and countless others will come home scarred for life.
IMPEACH BUSH !! BRING OUR TROOPS HOME !!
IMPROVE OUR HOMELAND SECURITY HERE IN US
RESTORE OUR MORAL HIGH GROUND AND STANDING INTHE WORLD STRENGTHEN OUR ALLIES AND DIPLOMACY.
42 other presidents before Bush and over 230 years of history have used these principles to guide our foreign policy.
But those who praise Bush as a messiah and the second coming like FOX news and
all you ignorants out here would have us all believe 42 presidents were wrong and Bush was right.
As a country we dont change or ignore what we stand for for 230 years just because of 9/11. We bring those responsible to justice.
But becuase of Bush Osama Bin Laden is still alive Al Qaeda is stronger it is easier to recruit terrorists becuase of his failed stupid decisions in Iraq.
Its the Al Qaeda threat stupid not Iraq.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and never attacked or threatened us.
If Iraq was a threat to our freedom and way of life does that mean we will attack China Russia Iran North Korea Venezuela Mexico ????
Are you all going to go out and shoot your neignbor becuase MAYBE inthe futre they will rob your home or abduct your children or rape your wife.
Hey Bushies and Cheney worshippers.
Hitler’s reason for invading Poland and the Chechloslavakia and taking the Sudentland and Rhine and also annexing Austria was to protect Germany form a future attack.
So if you all believe with blind faith in everything BUsh says about attacking other countries unprovoked becuae they may be a threat to us then you all believe Hitler was jsutified to start WWII.
Wake up all you brain dead followers of Bush………..just because he says your freedoms are threatened or you are with us or against us does not make it so or historical fact. You are all like sheep following a blind stupid incompetent dumbass arrogant childlike intelligence of a man we call our president.
IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY

It is sad but good that they are dead and not being subjected to further torture of the kind these animals conduct.

We shouldn’t be there in the first place, but if we are going to act like barbarians then we should take a lesson from the Rome of past and start slaughtering civilians in retaliation. It wouldn’t be long before the populace would do the necessary house cleaning for us.

Go join the military CJ, they need you.

Preemptive strike by USA-USA bombers against Christian Serbs 1999. They hadn’t bombed us, threaten us or even make ugly gestures. Their crime was defending themselves against the Islamists trying to purge Serbian Kosovo of all infidels. The Serbs were the only Balkan people who stood against the Nazis instead of with them as the Muslim Albanians did. They saved the lives of numerous American downed flyers, we showed our gratitude by PREEMPTIVELY bombing them and now by appeasing the ethnic Albanians by giving them Serb land. Many Albanian businesses still fly the Nazi flag, but we bombed the Serbs.

I am 61 years old and lived through Vietnam and the Cold War. This is a tiny little military action in comparison. This worldwide war against militant Islam is just beginning. I see posts here from wimps and weaklings and from bravehearts and patriots. It’s sad this country must be so divided. Soon we will be at each other’s throats. I do believe there will be a new Draft. We need about 2 million combat troops to fight this war, trained in a new way to deal with terrorists that obey no international rules of warfare. The entire face of much of the world will have to be reconfigured over the next 10 or 15 years. Yes, even America. Unfortunately, the only thing that will bring us together again quick is a huge, devastating attack, perhaps nuclear or biological. I hope it doesn’t happen, but we are headed for it. I know I will die defending the USA, will you? Or will you run and hide in Canada or elsewhere like the slackers during Vietnam? Look into your own heart for the answer. God bless America and keep us free!

To the 0-3 infantry officer,
Your a disgrace to the fine men and women who

Eric: Yeah, I am. At least, that’s been what everyone else is saying. The CIA, NSA, etc. all are accused of lying or providing faulty info. Why not a private company to pick up the slack? It may be a CIA front, wouldn’t be the first time, or it may actually be private sector. In either case, why would they give away trade secrets? Or maybe it’s the same company that faked the moon landings. Who can say for sure? Who REALLY KNOWS THE TRUTH? I don’t, and neither do you. Read the comments on this board. Everyone is convinced they are right, and they can even quote sources and facts. But who’s in charge of checking out the sources and facts? Who doesn’t have an agenda? Anytime there’s war, there’s deception and profiteering. It’s history that sorts it all out, and as I posted earlier, the historians are the winners (or at least the survivors). As such, I believe what I can confirm. I’ve got friends in the sandbox, and their emails/letters are the only solid facts I can go on. Meantime, I suspect that half of what we hear is BS and the other half is propaganda. Our parents and grandparents went through it in WWI and WWII. It’s our turn to quit acting like we know it all and to be ready to make whatever sacrifices are necessary to assure the future. It’s not mind numbed robots; it’s acquiescing to the fact that I don’t and can’t know it all, and if I did, so would everyone else.

RFK,
I don’t usually submit to name calling but you’re a dork! I find it interesting to see all you libs that are so concerned about the military and yet have you ever spoken to anyone that has/is currently serving over there? We want to serve and do it PROUDLY! I’ve been there for over a year and looking to go back soon. WE KNOW why we are serving and the reasons for it. All of you need to quit trying to “speak” for the troops because it does not represent the 98% of us over there. Like the three men taken by the terorists, we didn’t sign up because we were poor and didn’t have options! These three brave men and all others stood up where all the rest of you decided to stay home and find it easy to complain about our Commander-in-Chief. We serve our country and not a certain president. Gramma had it right in her post that some of your history goes only as far as last week or since you were born. All of America needs to realize in this world as an email I read awhile ago from a Marine that stated there are wovles, sheep, and sheepdogs (military)in life and you all should be grateful for the sheepdogs in America! GO NAVY!

I think it is important for those who are for the war to keep this in mind.
After being presented with info about Iraq, a great percentage of americans (including myself) was for the war with iraq.
I assumed that the facts were all true. I believed our government.
As time went by there were the original opponets of the war, joined by many Dems who felt lied to.
Next the independants went against the war, and finally moderate republicans.
All because of different reasons.
That leaves the hardcore right that watches FOX news. Most of them still believes that there were WMS’s found.
Will they ever face the facts?
WE WENT IN BECAUSE OF WMD’S AND WERE LIED TO BY BUSHCO.

Ed: They come here to mow my lawn. All of them. =)

Back when we had Clinton in office, the Republicans were the ones calling foul and pushing for our troops all to come home (Somolia). This was after the crash of American Helicopters in Mogadishu (ie: “Blackhawk Down”)and captured American servicemen were dragged through the street in an arrogent display of victory. Subsequently Clinton and his office caved in, and we pulled out of Somolia. We never got the man responsible for fanning the flames of US hatred, we left w/out finishing the job. Years later, it was said by none other than Osama bin laden that the reason he felt so confident in planning attacks against the US was that (to paraphrase) as soon as the chips got deep, the US would back off.
HELLO PEOPLE.. wake up. In our world of me me me, now now now, instant gratification, Americans as a whole have no patience. It doesn’t matter who is in office. We can’t stand to not have things resolved immediately, and the fact that this war is still going on is just unfathomable. We need to all shut up and let OUR TROOPS fight the war the way it needs to be fought – with the gloves off. The war shouldn’t be fought from politicians sitting at their desks in Washington DC. The last thing our country needs is to pull out and run with our tail between our legs. Our military is there because they VOLUNTEERED. Many are unhappy about deployment lengths, conditions, etc etc. but our military is all volunteer – no body was dragged kicking and screaming to Iraq and forced to carry a rifle in the name of US democracy. Our soldiers are proud, and to leave another job unfinished is an insult to every soldier who has died for our country.
These two young soldiers who have been captured and probably killed, my heart goes out to their families. The video says they were killed because of the way the military conducted it’s search of them? Doubtful… they planned on killing them, regardless. Terrorists are skillful on playing with our emotions and know how to push American buttons. They know our country is divided, and that is one way they can “win”… use propoganda like this video to blame our president and infuriate the masses even more so we as a country will leave. Bush brought us into Iraq as well, and I’ll agree it was for wrong reasons, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to stand quietly while the anti-war cowards continue to divide our country and put our soldiers at risk even more. Yes, I said it – liberals you are also responsible for the actions of the terrorists, with your Bush-bashing rhetoric. The extremists love you for that.
And for the record, my husband proudly serves. He’s been there done that and is willing to go back to “finish the job”.

This article just illustrates something a friend in the Army currently serving in Iraq told me. He said that every fight with the insurgents is a fight to the death. If captured, you can expect to be tortured and beheaded. However, if we capture any of the terrorists, they’re sent to Club Gitmo. Where is the proportionality?

Everything happening in Iraq is part of the original back up plan.
If Bush could not subjugate Iraqis into submission regarding their resources and territorial integrity then they would:
1. Destroy the infrastructure, health and education systems.
2. Dismantle any Nationalist/Socialist ideals.
3. Divide into smaller easier to control mini states that would depend on American protection from each other.
4. Kill, Exile, or imprison the educated.
5. Cause hatred amongst Iraqis

To: manesso
Gee, that sounds like what we did to the ex-Soviet Union too. Does that mean we won?

Eric, I agree.. Is that tape real? It could have been made in Los Angeles for we know… It looks pretty YOUTUBISH to me… Beside you never wear basic black after Memorial day.. Just ask Paris Hilton, she seems to be the leading news story today anyway…

People forget to look at history, war is not a bunch of guys running around with paintball guns. It is a dirty, nasty thing that people are killed in many ways. The German SS massacred U.S. troops at Malmady
and the Japanese were not prone to treating Allied POW’s anywhere near the rules of the Geneva Convention.
Posted by: Gene | Jun 4, 2007 10:22:08 AM
Correction, WE MASSCERED THE GERMANS AT MALMADY! Check your facts before posting.

I have a question & two comments:
1. How do people plan on “defeating” the “terrorists”? Does this entail killing all Arabs & Muslims? There are 1.6 Billion Muslims in the World.
2. Blaming all of America’s problems on
President Bush or “Liberals” is silly and uninformed. Both parties voted for the War. Both parties are still funding the War. Members of both parties a profiting from the War.
3. The Middle East is where sick empires go to die. A lot of Americans compare Iraq to Vietnam. There are strong parallels between the two, of course, but what is worrying is the similarity between United States invasion and occupation of Iraq and the
Soviet Union’s invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. The military leadership determined that there was no military solution to Afghanistan early into the war, but they stayed the course because of civilian leadership. While the Soviet Union “only” suffered casualties of 15,000 over a decade, the financial drain on an already weakened state, combined with the loss of morale not only in the military but also the loss of morale in the populace caused its immediate collapse.

We still have not come to grips with the fact that we are fighting determined, skilled soldiers. The term “terrorists” has become a word that hides the fact that different armies fight different war in different ways. The Muslim soldiers are fighting with the resources they have available and with the tactics that work best for them. Our soldiers are doing the same. Consequently, there are no terrorists in this “War on Terrorism,” just soldiers trying to do their jobs–kill each other.

Death in Iraq. These people worship death. We are fighting against fiends.
Even in World War II, such enemy had some morals. Lets not blame President Bush.

Kim deserves a HUG!!!

Well…I’m 70 years old and I’ve survived through WW2, Korea, and Viet Nam. I probably won’t survive this misnamed and incompetently handled war, because our installed Neocorporate government plans on a long long war for profit and the benefit of the ruling class aka “elite”.
Don’t believe anything you hear and only some of what you see. If you don’t question authority these days, you might as well go ahead and drink the tap water, and eat genetic foodstuff.
I feel terrible about what our troops are going through, and in particular, I feel sick about these two soldiers. Not because of the video, but because of who they are and that we still don’t know if they are alive. The fact that they aren’t shown in the video means either that they were killed or that this is a photo-op. The evidence shown, of which only the ID cards and money were shown in detail, looks crisp and new, where one would think it would look worn from being carried in combat.
This whole thing is not about choosing which side you are on, it’s about seeking the truth, and loving the world that we live in. When you hear something that you know is the truth, treasure it and let it into your heart. When you hear a lie, throw it in the trash immediately, and when you hear the same lie twice, remember that you had to throw away the same lie twice.
good thoughts…good words…good deeds to those who listen to the sage and the begger on the street.

ThiefinChief: W stole the election, but it is I who stole your wife! Aha!

geezer You deserve a medal. If your history has tought us anthing is that WAR sucks!.. Men die and people bitch about the government. If they did this in some 3rd world country they probally would be dead.. My nephew is one of the 2 soldiers and we are still hoping he will come back to us safe.. But we understand why he went and support him always… GOD BLESS

You know what, think back to 9/11.
That horrible day, this is what all of us wanted, revenge, payback. We all cheered to go over there and get something done. We all wanted them to pay. They have and so have we. You all sit in your homes and offices and you ahve your freedom. You come and go as you please. Thanks to our men and women over there. Now, here we are, now we want it to stop. Well, guess what, it don’t work that way. When we lose something like on 9/11 we act on it. We don’t think about the long term of things. So now everybody is fussing and disagreeing. Well our troops are over there dying too. Personally, I would like to say so what if they are dying, that is less that we have to worry about growing up and killing us later.
That comes from the fact that I have a ten year old daughter. But I can’t say that because that would be morally wrong, huh?
We all agree they should be home, but what can you do about it? Until we get someone in office that can figure out a correct sensible way to get them home and set Iraq on their way then we are stuck here fussing about it. Just remember our families here and there. And be careful…… Remember those that you are taking up for over there can just as much be in a building right there beside of you ready to blow you up too!

Just to put things in perspective, there have been 16,000+ homicides in the USA within the last year of FBI statistics.
This is not to diminish the sacrifice of our brothers and sisters in the military. Just wanted the left screaming about the “number” of troop casualties as if numbers alone should be a gauge on whether or not the war is being won or lost.
Maybe if the media would not be so objective when it comes to our troops who are in harms way, every day, and every day gave America hope instead of despair, we can take the wind out of the terrorist/insurgent sails that we will cut and run within the next few months.
God Bless our troops, keep them safe.

Actually, Major, blogs are places to post your views. Tell me why you are here.

If we left Iraq right now then the DEMOCRATS Win.. And the terrorists.. In that order…

All of this “he said, she said” retorical spiel does not help one person. The media wont report the good our beloved soldiers are doing, and the liberals love all the hate. Lets blame Bush and then all things will go away. When they begin to attack America, and they will, call on Hillary,Edwards or whoever. Their response will be to enact 14 anti gun legislation bills, and blame Israel. Jesus is comming folks whether you believe it or not.

Blogs are places to post your views ABOUT the subject the BLOG is about.
I respect these men the story is about therefore I don’t waste my time like you mr dumbass.
Nice name by the way.
There ARE places dedicated to the subject you ALL chosen to discuss here. Which IS NOT about the story the blog is related too.
So why don’t you all go there instead?
Or did someone out flame you there already?
PLEASE RESPECT THE SOLDIERS THAT THIS STORY IS ABOUT!
Discuss THIS story in THIS blog or don’t post at all. That’s what is called respect. Join the army, you may learn what respect is…

Major, It wasn’t dumbass that asked why you are here, this is Gramma and I just wondered why you were so angry and verbally abusive, I expect more from a real military man.

If we are in a war we MUST win, then stand up for the position.
There must be a draft. End of conversation. These troops in Iraq are burned out, worn out and need R&R (minimum 2 years). We now need a force to replace them, hence the draft.
Taxes need to go up to pay for the war.
You can’t say that we are in a war that we must win, but we can’t have a draft, and we can’t raise taxes to pay for it.
Where do you think all the money for ammo & pay comes from????
Not to mention the 100,000+ mercinaries we have on the payroll in Iraq. How are we paying them?
DRAFT & TAXES or quit talking about winning the war. 300,000 troops can’t win in a 25,000,000 people country.

You liberals are disgusting. You play right into the hands of the enemy with this “Bush’s fault” idiocy. You boost their morale and cement their resolve with your yammering. You people need a reality check. Bush and the troops are responsible for keeping YOUR ungrateful asses safe while you undermine them. Al Gore lost. Get over it.

My husband is a Marine and has served 2 tours now in Iraq. I was one of the lucky ones that got him back. I support our troops and I support our country. I understand why we started this and I support the good we have done. That being said, it is time to end this. At this point, all noble intentions are lost with the lives of our young men and women fighting in Iraq. History will not show this war as what it was meant to be but what it has become.
Too many lives have been lost and not enough gained in such a war torn country. It is time to cut our losses. Be grateful for the good we did accomplish, do not belive our troops died in vain, but make the bloodshed stop.
The war needs to end.

mr. Chamberlain you should be ashamed of yourself. this was not caused by a religion. terrorists hide behind it but if you knew anything of their religion you would already know that it is against their “laws” to kill period. you should really make sure you know what you are talking about. ONE MAN SIGNED THAT DECELERATION TO SEND US TO IRAQ SO STOP POINTING FINGERS AT EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!!

I stand corrected Gramma.
Excuse me Mam,
I see respect is not something these ppl have. Apparently neither do you. I am sorry for trying to get ppl to go to the appropiate place for these kind of discussions.
To turn these men’s story into all your own persoanl battleground to “voice” your opions about NOTHING to do with these men’s story, is beyond disrespectful.
As a military man myself, I guess I can’t expect any of you to understand what the words Brotherhood and respect mean. We fight to protect you all.
I make a simple request in honor of these men & you even chose to attack me because I try to make you all show respect.
I’m abusive because you all are disrespectful ppl that care about nothing except using this VERY blog to push your views. I don’t care which side you argue. DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE other than these soldiers story?
Can’t you ppl understand honor & respect??!!
That’s what I’m doing here.
Wishing the ppl of my country could had enough respect to leave a blog alone, except to discuss the TOPIC it was created for. BUT it seems you all have something MUCH MORE important to say than to respect these men.
Apparently so important that you must even take the time to question MY motives. What has this country come too?
Please leave this blog for the topic it was created..
Please I beg of you all in the name of common decency & the respect of these soldiers it is about….
Doyou all have no heart? No shame?

Some liars on this board saying they are Enlisted and Officer types.
BJ Colbert… that one made me laugh.

Alleged pictures of the soldeirs can be found on the Michael Savage web site. WARNING! Quite graphic.
This should add more resolve to get this mess over with in Iraq. Get the job done and get out.

The main point right now is that our fellow Americans are in harms way. They are following orders. We should at ALL cost support them!!!!
“It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.

If the US pulls out….well they won’t.
(None of the serious presidential candidates are saying anything much different than Bush.)
But a change of strategy is called for. We won the war, but failed to follow our own model for post war success (Europe, Japan) and instead invested nothing. And nothing is what you get for that kind of investment.
Well, that’s not exactly true. We did invest in Blackwater, Lockheed Martin, Halliburton. *They’re* doing pretty well.
Had we turned the lights and water on in Baghdad and people there might feel differently today. But we made a terrible situation worse than Saddam.
We aren’t going away anytime soon. But we’ll have to get out of the way and let these people sort it out their own way. Believe me, they don’t want al quaeda around either. They won’t last a week – Sunni and Shiite alike will turn on them (they’re foreigners, too). Then they’ll turn on each other.
Let’s get Osama, OK?

Major if you had read any of my previous posts you would know that my husband spent 30 years in the Marine Corps, 2 tours in VN, DR, etc, one of my daughters served in the Marine Corps during Desert Storm and my grandson enlisted in the USMC last Thursday. Contrary to your opinion of me, I understand respect, perhaps better than you might think, at least I haven’t prejudged you. I’ve been posting off and on for the past 4 hours or so, Why don’t you go back and read my posts, see why I entered this fray then denigrate me. As a wife and mother I’ve given as much or more to this country than most of the posters and I’ll say to you, as someone who has stood beside the coffins of the fallen, I understand loss. I will also say that I have never been spoken to in such a disrespectful manner by any Marine, perhaps the military has changed. I suggest that you stop complaining and do what you said you came here to do. Mourn with those who mourn and tone down some of the self righteousness, it doesn’t become the uniform.

Let me just say…Thank you to all the soilders over there. Thank you to all the Reserve and Nat.Guard. Thank you to all the familes that stay home during the deployment and stick with it. I pray for all of you and may God be with you.

Amen, Gramma, I couldn’t agree more!

Eric,
Again, these sites aren’t unknown to us in the military. We know of activities sometimes months before it is released to the MSM so quit throwing out your black helicopter theories (which by the way we know about-haha)and as Maj Johnson and I have said respect these men in the story and those of us that are willing to back up our talk with our walk.

“I’m an infantry Captain, U.S. Army. I can say with boots on the ground knowledge that we’ve created more “terrorists” than were in existance before we invaded Iraq.”
Captain, the same occurred in Vietnam, which turned me against the war. Thanks for the post.

pfc erwin,
more of what you said needs to be said more often. everyone takes this war and twists it around… supporting our troops is what really needs to be done. as the girlfriend of a US soldier, it is terrible to see someone on the street, a complete stranger, look down upon you because you are in a uniform. i’ve even seen poeple spit on his boots. it disgusts me.

There are some people who are, simply, IMPOSSIBLE. Iraq has admitted that we have liberated them, and thank us so. So, how much cooing do we need to give? Pull ALL of our military out and let’s build a better America. Iraq can handle their own at this point, as can other countries. Survival of the fittest. If you can’t lick them, join them. They can become Americans.

NavyN2 — There was no ‘black helicoper’ talk until you brought it up. And quit masquerading as someone you are not. Someone in the position you claim to be would not be bragging about it on a public message board.
The fact of the matter is that there are apparently private organizations based in the United States that are supplying the news media with terrorist videos, and some of these organizations are selling re-packaged terrorist videos for profit! The former is suspicous because these organizations somehow get a hold of the videos before anybody else (government, news media, public). And as for the latter, as for these organizations SELLING the very terrorist propaganda videos they ‘find’ and then supply to the press?? The mere thought of that is simply inconceivable. I am sure I am not in the minority view on that.
What is going on here, and why isn’t there an investigation into the sources of this information?

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of beeing free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself..
(1868)-John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)

Bring our troops home now, and use them to protect our borders. That would be time and money well spent. Fighting in the Middle East to zap a little democracy on them is worthless.

It is a VOLUNTEER military, Alexander Jones. What about that SIMPLE title dont’ you understand?? My Father, and his father before him served over 20 years in the U.S. military; and my husband and my brother are currently serving. My husband returned from Iraq in January. There is no reason for you to whine about the Bush twins not joining the military – there are PLENTY of realy men and women out there still joining EVERY DAY.
Do you live in a cave and are you therefor unable to see that people enlist daily in the U.S. despite the fact that a war is going on?
I LOVE this country and I despise any P.O.S. that wants to see her or her citizens hurt.

Very nice Christy. Couldn’t agree more.

Dave – “Jesus was a liberal” help me understand how Jesus was a liberal.

Eric,
I am who I say I am. I don’t hide that I am proud member of the US Navy! My main point is that you are trying to figure out who these sites are and why they get access to certain things. Here is their mission statement:
Studying the primary source propaganda, training manuals, and chatter of terrorists offers insight into terrorists and their activities that can not be obtained anywhere else. Failing to monitor terrorist propaganda is a failure in intelligence. To fulfill this need, the SITE Institute offers its Intelligence Subscription Service, which provides numerous daily translations of terrorist propaganda and multimedia from primary source terrorist websites.
This is so we don’t get accused by those on the left or right of “not connecting the dots”.
Again this email was about these brave men and your more concerned about the site that posted it?? That’s jacked up!
It’s like Mitt Romney’s wife stated in describing the bickering going on in our country is like (paraphrased) two men in a canoe about to go over a waterfall and they arguing over who isn’t paddling enough.
We need to change the dialogue in this country and ALWAYS support our troops.
I’m out.

NavyN2 — the way to support the troops is to 1) stop paying mercenaries 4x what the troops make, and/or raise troop pay by that same 4x margin 2) bring the troops home. Your opposing concept of troop support is more akin to collective punishment.

I simply cannot believe all the leftist liberal kooks who use our troops’ deaths for their own political purposes and anti-Bush hate speech! Hello Idiots!! It’s the Islamic militants that are killing us, and they would nuke you liberals too if they could. Perhaps you should reorganize your loyalties!

There is a bigger threat to the USA other than al queda, they’re called LIBERALS.
They think, that if they close their eyes long enough the terrorist will go away.

THank you Joe and Free Thinker. Why doesn’t Bush send the Liberals over there to fight with our troops? They side more with the terrorists than with their own fellow Americans.

JB — Most people in the middle east simply want the US military presence OUT of their homeland. PERIOD. They don’t hate us because we are FREE, or capitalistic. They hate us because, in the past few decades, the neo-conservatives among us have made us appear IMPERIALISTIC. Ronald Reagan would have never invaded Iraq, and that is proof enough that this mess is completely the fault of the neo-conservative influence on the current administration. Wake up and change your thinking.

Terrorism is not going away, and bringing our servicemen and women back to the states is not going to make the problem magically disappear!!! Where is everyone patriotism?

Cowardly, right-wing, wackos calling for the LIBERALS to go fight in Iraq? Now, I’ve heard it all. Go clean up your OWN mess, and then maybe we can have a valid discussion about what is right for America. You neo-conservative idiots have had the keys for too long, and you’ve proven you’re not fit to drive.

libs are glad that these three soldiers were killed so they can blame bush and then use croc tears to tell us how they support the troops. what a bunch of lying hypocrites you are.

Sarah — you can pretend you support the troops by believing that keeping them in harms way for absolutely no good reason is ‘support’. I, on the other hand, will continue to work to make sure influences like yours are made innocuous, and that ideas like yours are never again used to control (or rather destroy) the decision making process of the US government. The neo-conservative movement is on the way out, and for good reason. Your 6 year train-wreck of an experiment is over. The voters in 2006 said so, and I am sure even more will say so in 2008.

it is totaly fair the defenders kill the attackers.
americans that sign up for the army are stupid, no country is worh dying for. enspecaly not USA. dirty war history with war all time, fighting for freedom is a lie. USA are fighting against freedom and peace.
in freedom and peace there is no war.
peopel that say” blow em all away” “bomb em all to hell” are brain washed fools that dont know what freedom and peace are and dont know mutch about the world exept the lies they are told.

Stupid is all I have to say about you Eric. I do not support putting the troops in harms way for no reason. And I especially do not support a withdrawl from Iraq right away, which would not only bring this war to our dirt, but what would that tell the terrorists? “we’ll be out of your country in one year. feel free to come kill us in ours.”
And so much for your thoughts on the conservatism being on the way out, I am studying politics to make sure liberals like you don’t destroy our military and our values.

storm – and you’re still living here because….?

Sarah said: “And I especially do not support a withdrawl from Iraq right away, which would not only bring this war to our dirt, but what would that tell the terrorists? “we’ll be out of your country in one year. feel free to come kill us in ours.”
Sarah, the fact that you think ‘Iraq’ is the ‘terrorists country’ in the first place is the entire problem, and the reason why you are clearly on the wrong side of everything, history and facts included. Please don’t waste your apparent schooling on studying politics. Politics is about common sense, and if you don’t have that to begin with, you will not succeed in it.

It’s so sad to see the mass ignorance displayed in right wing responses to posts. If I disagree with the President I want the terrorists to come to Los Angeles and decapitate me? Where do you people get these ideas? Fox News?

Did i say i lived in the USA? i live in sweden.
and i dont want to move to Iraq or USA. bouth contrys are bad with far to manye brainwashed people.
theres never going to be peace and freedom from a contry that war all time since it found.
there is no reason peopel should kill eatch other.

The whole world should condemn the ill-treatment of captured Prisoners. The US is NO good in this aspect. The way the US is treating prisoners in Cuba and Abu Ghbrabib prison, only gave excuse to our enemny to behave in the same manner as the US.
Everybody should respect the Geneva Conventions. This is the only way the prisoners can be saved.

Sarah said: “And if they aren’t terrorists, please explain why the death toll for our troops is what it is. Who is killing these brave men and women?”
IRAQI **CITIZENS**!!!!!!!!!! 50% of them think it is OK to kill Americans, according to a recent poll. Maybe you understand a bit more about reality now, Sarah. Just maybe.

storm- “there is no reason peopel should kill eatch other.”
what is your suggestion for what we should have done after 911?

“Who is killing these brave men and women?”
Those “brave” men and wommens are attackers, of cource the defenders will kill them, have you read about how manye civilians that have been murdured by US troops and US bomb? hundred of thosands!!

have you see the proof that 911 was staged by american goverment? take a look at em and you will see peopel get killed by its own goverment.

Im so sick of hearing of these terrorists kidnapping our soldiers or american civilians in iraq then killing them. How come were not doing the same? We are not fighting another country so why follow the Geneva Convention. There a group of infidals who kill innocent people over there religion or cause of our way of living. Its nothing but crap. There should not be a prison for them so they can spend the rest of there pathetic lives in. There making us look bad, they took down our buildings and killed thousands. Ous soldiers are sitting ducks cause were not bringing the fight to them, they have to sit back and hope for something to happen which is insane. If our so called government dont do something soon well have 50000 dead soldiers before we know it and for what reason, cause we sat back with our hands tied behind our backs. I feel for the soldiers there and there families. I also know cause I lost a good friend there for no reason as i see it. Forget the rules of engagment and let our soldiers do what they know best and kick some ass

If i was attacked by americans(or anye other attacking contry) i would think its ok to defend myself and kill the attackers.
you act like the sheeps beliving only what the american goverment controlled news tells you.

Clinton lied …. and how many died ?????

sarah americans also kill iraq soldiers, in war bouth sides often kill and torture the enemys. if your educated you should know that. eaven if its well hidden it happens far far more then you belive

Hey LA.
You don’t know what the hell you’re talkin’ about.

No one is saying that Bush is directly responsible. And no one is saying that the terrorists are ‘right’, or ‘moral’, or ‘correct’ in what they do. What is a fact is the statement that the US will never win this war because this is a war that’s based on hatred and mistrust dating back to the age of Imperialism (in the case of Muslim – Western Distrust and hate), and millenia back in terms of religious sectarian violence. We won’t solve this in a year, or 10 years or 100 years. All we’ll do is add to the body count with American soldiers. In the sense that Bush thinks he can win, he is responsible. Furthermore, and with respect to those who think that the way Al Quaeda treats American prisoners is somehow reflective of an acceptable standard of treatment applicable to Al Quaeda prisoners. The point isn’t that we don’t torture otherwise we’ll be tortured. The point is that we’re better than that. We don’t torture because we believe in basic, inherent human rights possessed even by our enemies. That philosophy is what makes us American. That isn’t political, it isn’t Liberal / Conservative. It isn’t Democrat / Republican. People who think like that don’t understand the very basic principles on which America was founded.

Please keep the families of these soldiers in your thoughts and prayers. Imagine the pain they have to go through. They, along with all other military families and service members, need our support and care in these trying times.
I’m very disappointed to see just how filthy many of the comments on these “discussions” are. It is, unfortunately, representative of the moral corruption of our society. As a member of the Army National Guard, I’m sickened by how people choose to use their right to speak ther minds. I’m doing my best in the Guard to contribute to protecting our God-given rights, yet so many of my fellow Americans completely fail to be even civil to one another in this impersonal media of communication when exercising their First Amendment rights. Not being able to see and fully interact with your peers on online forums such as this is absolutely not an excuse for spewing such hateful drivel. Please be more considerate of your fellow citizens.

The shocking part of this situation isn’t the savagry of the Islamic pychopaths but to passivity of the media , except a few outlets . It leads me to believe they’re either deathly afraid to accuratly report on the barbarity of jihadism or they feel US troops deserve it because of what they call an ” illegal war ” . The last thing 90% of the media wants is people to finally realize jihadism must be fought and defeated .

The Anglo-American soldiers in Iraq are as deluded about their reasons for invading another sovereign country as those in the Wehrmacht when they committed their war crimes in the USSR and eastern countries.

When I read this quote below I felt like puking on whoever wrote it. To say Liberals do not want to fight for their freedom is just a plain old lie. Some people would call me a liberal but I served my country proudly and was part of the first all volunteer Navy in the seventies. I did not have to join I did it for the love of my country and now I have to read garbage from so called conservatives who say those who do not share their beliefs are cowards and Un American. Who ever made this quote needs to go live in Russia where conservatives like Putin live and rule. That is the country you guys want and it aint the America I love and I would fight for.
Amen
“If we treated our war prisoners as they treat prisoners, this war would have been long over. Torture? Please!
Liberals want the freedom but aren’t willing to pay for it.”

For those of you who say this is Bush’s fault, you disgust me. And to think our soldiers are dying for you.

No Chris Nichols. They’re dying for an executive branch of our government that saw fit to rush into battle without clearly analyzing the evidence. People who went to war without being 100% sure that they were right in their conclusions.
Also, to the individuals who are comparing the Americans in Iraq with the Nazi conquests of Europe. Please stop that nonsence. You’re insulting the intelligence of every person who reads this, and coming off as individuals with absolutely no real grasp of history. It’s hyperbole to the point of losing any real comperative value.

Oops.
Sorry James, my bad. I re-read the posts, and yours was the one before the one I was referencing. Gio is the name of the poster I was referring to. A thousand apologies.
Ron

I cant believe all the idiotic comments that I have read on this comment list. The ones by “Pretend infantryman” B.J. Colbert especially entertained me. For your info B.J. using terms like “boots on the ground experience” does not make anyone honestly believe that you are in the service. I have heard from many enlisted people who all give the opposite account than the one that you gave. The Iraqi civilian population as a majority are glad that we came there, as shown by all of the purple fingered voters. They now have electricity,functioning hospitals, girls can go to school, Saddam’s rape rooms are closed for good, his rapist sons have been removed, he’s in jail, the mass graves are no longer being filled with people who had the balls to stand up to the government. By the way, do you morons realize that if you lived in that country, under Saddams rule, writing such comments as you have written would have turned into fill for the mass graves. As far as the troop surge goes… Prior to us starting the surge it was the Libs idea in the freakin first place!!!! Just like the war was agreed to by 90% of them, Then when President Bush implements their own idea and does as they wish, they turn on him like the cowardly dogs they are. One last thing, I could not stand Slick Willy while he was president, but while he resided in the oval office, I still had enough respect for the office to refer to him as President Clinton, not ‘shrub’. If you are an enlisted soldier as you claim, then you should be charged with treason for your anti-US comments during war time.

Joshrwtn…and yours is the most idiotic on this board. Not a fact to be found. You just got to stop listening to FauxEntertainment Channel for your facts. Your hate and ignorance are deafening.

I just watched the report on the two soldiers PVT Wayne and SPC Ramon on the News. I think that it is pretty irresponsible to show enlarged photo’s of the back side of the ID cards. We as viewer get the point without having a clear view of the soldiers Social Security Numbers. Who ever edits the video needs to know what they are looking at before they boadcast private information over the news. You pretty much ensured that what ever criminals did not know about it from the internet now have the information..
dumb very dumb

We can’t compain if they were torture- as we have broken the Geneva Conventions and America is a nation that tortures. We have lost the high ground. Way to go Republican dips!

Chris L.
Thank you for your service too. I am working backwards through the comments, so I am not familiar with the post you are referencing; however, I want to comment on something you said. You proudly proclaim yourself a liberal; but, do you feel that liberalism itself has changed since you served in the 70′s? Patriotism was on the way out of this country during the 70′s, but it still held some sway. You were obviously brought up to love and respect your country. During current times, todays breed of liberals are truly out there. The Democrats have so aligned themselves with defeat, that the worst possible outcome for them would be for us to actually win. It may not have started out that way (they actually voted for the war before they voted against it,) but then Bush Derangement Syndrome set in. They viscerally HATE George Bush, and as such have had to look for ways to oppose him. This resulted in their backing their way into a corner where they are aligned with the likes of Ahmahdinajad and fear that if we prevail in the Middle East, they will never regain their coveted power. Whether you believe we should have gone there at all, surely you can see that we need to support our citizens in uniform who are there. The Dems slow-bleed strategy of denying our troops reinforcements and supplies, coupled with announcing to the enemy when we will leave, can only result in encouraging the enemy. President Abraham Lincoln said, “Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs, and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.”
I can’t remember the columnist’s name, but a few years ago, I read the Mea Culpa of a 60′s journalist who reluctantly admitted that in retrospect, his anti-war reporting had cost thousands of American lives. He said that Mao realized that he couldn’t possibly defeat America militarily, and was about to give up when the anti-war movement picked up in the US. He then realized that all he had to do was out wait us. This extended the war by several years and cost many US lives. The Murtha’s, Pelosi’s, Reid’s, Kerry’s, et. al. of the Democratic Party have forgotten history, and are repeating this poor journalist’s mistake.

I was so upset when I saw the news. Do you realize what you did by showing the ID’s of these men? We preach about Identity theft and then you don’t black out their SS# on their cards. I wanted to cry when I saw this, thinking what kind of sick person will see this and use it to steal their information.
Please think about this before you show anything else.

cedross
“Peace and love-words to live by.” Sounds pretty good but your name calling indicates that they are just words to you. Why are the peace and love types the ones doing the preponderence of the name calling? I’ve heard people say they don’t go to church because they will encounter hypocrites there, I guess we should stay away from the peace rallies and the ensuing love fests lest we encounter a few hypocrites there also.. Facts, well documented facts, affect opinions. Most of the peace lovers here today have been woefully short on facts but looooong on the name calling. Out of the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks, what’s in your heart?

Tonight I just happened to tune in to ABC News for a look to see if you really are better than the other networks. Never again! ABC News needs to fire the editor and cohorts that let our soldier’s, Pvt Wayne and Spc Ramon, social security numbers and birth dates be viewed by millions. When I saw your careless (or blatant) and irresponsible handling of personal information covered under the Privacy Act of 1974, it outraged me. You have only 15 minutes of news to edit and air. Wake up! You’re only making their situation worse. Those ID cards are the Property of the U.S. Government. Did you get permission from them to disclose sensitive information and perpetuate the crimes of the hell-bound terrorists and play into the hands of the identity thieves around the world? I doubt it. ABC and all it’s affiliates and sponsors need to be ashamed. My heart and prayers go out to Pvt Wayne and Spc Ramon and their families. No matter what you think about this war, they deserve better than this, ABC.

IRAQI INSURGENT GROUP? IS THIS PC OR WHAT? THEY ARE A GANG OF NON IRAQI THUGS BEING FINANCED BY IRAN BECAUSE DEMOCRACY IS A DEATH BLOW TO THE IRANIAN POWER ELITE. LETS CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS. RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CONFLICT. RELIGION IS THE METHOD OF GAINING SUPPORT AND RECRUITS FROM THE MASSES WHO ARE INDOCTRINATED FROM BIRTH AND IDIOTS THAT ARE EDUCATIONALLY CHALLENGED. THE MACHINES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL WARFARE AND THE DELIVERY SYSTEMS WERE THERE AND FOUND. THAT’S ALL YOU NEED. THE GERM IS EASY. EXPANDING IT AND DELIVERING IT ARE NOT. EVEN THE IRAQI GENERALS SAID THAT THEY HAD EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED (GERM) TO PRODUCE WMD AND IT WAS SENT TO SYRIA AND IRAQ WHILE WE WERE PREPARING FOR THE WAR. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE LONG LINES OF SEMI TRUCKS GOING TO SYRIA AND IRAN? I GUESS NOT. THAT IS CALLED SELECTIVE RECALL. WMD’S WERE THERE!
YOU CAN CERTAINLY PICK OUT THE BLEEDING HEART DIPPER DOPER BABIES FROM THESE COMMENTARIES. THE FIRST TO SELL OUT THEIR COUNTRY IF IT GIVES THEM SOME KIND OF EDGE. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO SAY AND WHO ARE THEY GOING TO BLAME WHEN OUR SCHOOLS AND MALLS GO UP IN SMOKE AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THEIR STUPID UNDERMINING OF THE THIS WAR. NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO TURNED COAT AND BECAME TRAITORS WERE DEMOCRATS. I HAVE NEWS FOR ALL BLEEDING HEART DIPPER DOPER BABIES , CHINA IS HIDING JUST AROUND THE CORNER AND WHEN SHE HITS, THERE WILL BE NO ROOM FOR DOUBT. SAN FRANCISCO, SALEM, PORTLAND, LOS ANGELES, AND THE LIBERAL CAPITAL, BERKLEY WILL BE OBLITERATED. THERE WILL BE NO WHERE THESE RATS CAN RUN. MAYBE THEY WILL ALLOW THE MASS MARKET SALE OF CYANIDE TABLETS.

The vast majority of you who post here seem to be completely consumed by your anger at each other more than anything else. It seems that you have missed the mark… perhaps I could suggest that we all respect the suffering of these, and all other soldiers in Iraq as well as the millions of Iraqis who live with this terrible situation in their back yard every single day, by redirecting this hatred for each other’s opinions into a concerted effort to find some type of agreement. Obviously, we all recognize that something is not right in the world and we might be more effective as a populous if we sought ways to explore the common ground that we have together. I don’t think that the anonymity provided by the Internet should be an excuse for treating each other like non-persons. I feel fairly certain that, should we meet in person, it is unlikely that we would speak to each other in this way. Consider where our society is headed if we cannot even have a respectful and civil conversation about a tragedy such as the one reported here. Perhaps I misunderstand the entire purpose of making comments, perhaps the only purpose is to vent hatred and anger in a sort of mutually destructive group masturbation… but I don’t think that is the case. I long to recapture my sense of optimism regarding where America is headed and I honestly believe that we each can have an exponentially positive effect if we seek to weave the fabric of agreement… there is great power in a citizenry united, but only chaos exists in a bar fight.

Hey you neocon idiots. Quit comparing this fiasco to WWII. It aint WWII, because FDR didn’t make up Pearl Harbor. It actually happened.If you still support Bush, you are in denial, and have a serious problem.His administration lied about the reasons to invade, pure and simple.

George Bush IS to blame for the deaths of these soldiers. Nineteen and twenty-five. So sad. So unnecessary.

According to hard line muslims it is a huge insult that Islam is NOT the ruling system in the worl.
And this is what we see – fight between compeeting lifestyles. They are willing to die for it, and we will have too.
Bush did exactly what they wanted – now all Americans suffer for it. And its wrong.

I’ve never encountered so many bush loving, jingoist, blockheaded freaks before coming on to this blog. I realize this is Disneyland, but Brian Ross is a fairly mainstream commentator. I suspect that y’all guardians of ‘Merican values are really just a pack of lefty liberals posing as right-wing, vitriol spitting boors intent on helping to frame Republicans as dumber than they really are.

People, good attempt at following brotherly love so far in this blog, but I think I have a perfect answer to this one. Let’s go back to ole W’s brilliant “coalition of the willing”. If you like Bush and his policies, why don’t you enlist and head on over, come home when he tells you to come home, you know, put your money where your mouth is? You’re all for this war? It’s a good idea and you back it? Well let’s get going, it’s falling apart at the seams. What? You’re too old, or too white, too rich to go waving around guns? No problem, you can provide a service in the mess tents, or clean the latrines. You’re not above that are you? Thanks for helping out.
If you think the war is an atrocity, and a huge mistake, you can stay over here and try to drum up money from the big business players to get the medical help you people will need should you come back wounded. I’m sure they’d be happy to share in the profits to thank you for your service.

Why does anyone think that you can invade a country, kill, imprison, and humiliate the population and not become targets of resistance fighters. They are not insurgents, they are patriots of Iraq fighting the people who have destroyed their country and are occupying and stealing what is left. What would you do to a foreign army here? I would try to kill them.

I so envy the cozy little world you people on the left inhabit. So many simple solutions to the difficult problems we face. For example:
1. Want to end the war on terrorism? Just cut and run in Iraq. When the terrorists hit us again like on 9-11, maybe this time with nuclear weapons, just blame Bush.
2. Torture and murder of our troops in Iraq? Don’t blame the people doing it, blame Bush. It’s his fault.
3. Car bombs killing hundreds or thousands of moslem people trying to buy food in a marketplace? Don’t blame the people doing it, blame Bush.
4. Too much criminal violence in the US? Just ban the private possession of firearms. Sure works in Washington, DC – the murder capital of the US.
5. 12 – 20 million illegal aliens in the US? No problem, just grant them amnesty and citizenship. Sure worked in 1986, didn’t it?
6. Public schools failing our students? No problem. Just give more money to the teachers’ union.
4. High cost of medical care, teenage pregnancies, out-of-wedlock births, crime, high gas prices, global warming, floods, hurricanes? Blame Bush.
Jeff

RESPECT THE FAMILIES OF THESE SOLDIERS AND SHUT UP!!!!
It is not the Presidents FAULT it is those Coward that started this war and murdered how many Innocent AMERICAN’S and they are still dying from the after math…. This wasn’t the first terrorist attack in this country and look they where almost going to do it again. Get real they want to kill you. If I was the President I would take the American Air Force and level Iraq, Iran and all those other countries that support those losers and let them hide in their country. You people complain about the war probably never once defended this great Nation of ours and you don’t know the first thing about loyalty, integrity and American Pride, but yet you live in this country and you are Free to run your mouth. You complain how we treat them, but yet they can execute, decapitate and drag our soldier’s dead bodies through the streets on national television… If you have such a problem with us, this country and our President why don’t you move to their country? Those cowards use children and women as shields and traps to kill my brothers and sisters. They use religion to justify their actions. I wouldn’t care if we burned their Holy Bible. Whoopee ding… I think we should kill them all, throw their bodies in a big pit and pour pigs blood all over their bodies or better yet change all their leaders to women and throw them back to their own and see what type of life they would lead. So if you don’t SALUTE OR LIKE THE AMERICAN FLAG than get out of this country. The sad thing is that those loser terrorist’s live, work and go to school and plan yet another terrorist nightmare for us in this wonderful country – because their own country is such a dump . I know this first hand, because I’ve been there. They fight their own kind over stupid issues, if the clan’s would spent half the time fixing up and uniting as one as they did on KILLING AMERICAN and each other that place would probably be a nice place to live and they would all stay in their own country and leave us innocent folks along. If they would of left us alone none of this would have ever happen, so who fault is it. Since I am venting why don’t the MEDIA report on the good we do over there instead of just the bad. The Media’s at fault for getting this country so divided. THE AMERICAN SOLDIER IS DOING GOOD THINGS FOR THE INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OVER THERE BUT THE MEDIA WILL NEVER LET YOU SEE THAT SIDE OF THE WAR. I am proud of ALL THE SOLDIERS WHO ARE, WHO HAVE AND WHO WILL DEFEND THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY OF OURS. THANK YOU,
DONNA
10TH Mountain Division

Rick,
If you think that George Bush was the worst president in American history, you must have slept through the Carter administration. Have you forgotten how Carter bungled the Iranian hostage situation? If he had taken effective action, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in today with Iran. Remember the disasterous hostage rescue? Also, Jimmy Carter gave away the Panama Canal, and was in the process of deserting South Korea. Remember the long gasoline lines and shortages caused by his foolish price controls? What about the double digit home mortage interest rates, inflation, and Billy Beer? Nope, George Bush doesn’t come close to being the worst president in American history. Carter wins hands down.
Jeff Adams

FDR,
Drop the hatred. It’s poison. It’s acid. It will not do you any good.
1. I need no lectures from you nor anyone else on the events of 9-11. I work in the Pentagon. I experienced the attacks firsthand as well as the aftermath.
2. I know what the soldiers are going through in Iraq. I spent 20 years in the army. I only retired because of a medical condition that left me 60% disabled. During my time in the army, I was in three different combat divisions, serving at every level from the platoon to the division staff.
3. Don’t badmouth the guys working in mess tent preparing and serving food to the troops. They bust their butts.
Jeff

No hatred here, honest. I don’t hate anyone here for voicing their opinion. I honestly wish that all Americans could sit down and talk out these issues without hating each other, it is what the terrorists want, they want us divided and spewing hatred on blogs. We SHOULD agree to disagree, that’s life, and work out a common solution that benefits everyone. What do they call that…….er…..democracy or something.
Cooter, if you were in the South Tower, you should be ready to go grab Bin Laden and kick his teeth in, why are we in Iraq while Bin Laden is watching cnn in Pakistan (yes Pakistan) with Musharaff eating Lays potato chips while Haliburton PR speakers are banging on the bongos laughing at us? What the hell happened here? You must remember that ugly face all over cnn so proud of himself, and somehow we got stuck in Iraq. We should be turning Afganistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia into hamburger meat.

To clarify another point. I am not a “Bush Defender”. I am a conservative, who voted for W twice (lesser of two evils both times, vs. Algore and Jean Francois Kerry). I would much prefer that he invoked the Levin Doctrine (named for Mark Levin), which basically calls for our Air Force to make a local contribution to Global Warming in the Middle East. (AKA Kill em all and let God sort them out, lol). Just kidding, I don’t actually feel we should do that, just venting. But I do feel that we should stop tying the hands of our fighting men and women with ridiculous rules of engagement. Take the gloves off, this IS supposed to be a war. Our military is trained to break things and kill people, not to be a police force. I also feel that the President has completely abandoned the country in favor of a One World Government. He has also bought into the junk science of “Global Warming”, (but these two items are off the subject.) In any event, for the next year and a half, he is OUR PRESIDENT. (And even the even the moonbat nutcases won’t do anything about that or they will be stuck with…[dramatic music] Dick Cheney as POTUS [sort of sounds good to me].
Ron :^)

These people should pay for what they have done to our soldiers and all the little wussies that say we should do all but let the people we capture go we SHOULD NOT lighten up on the POW’s that we have.

Those kids knew what was going to happen when they signed up on the dotted line. That’s what makes them men, and the rest of us wussies. I just wish we would allow them to fight the way they were trained, and not hold back. There would be a whole hell of a lot less stories like this, I guarantee it. God Bless ‘Em.

As a mother of a someone in the army, it would be one thing if we were fighting for our people from 911, but we are not, Bush is just a big bulling on the play ground, he did not go after bin ladin, he went after daddy’s enamy. he surely is the worst president we ever had and i hope we will survive till he gets out, he should of been kicked out of office. Do not think we don’t support our troops just because we do not support Bush. There are alot of troops that don’t support him too. they do not get to choose their war, Bush does. i think he needs to take his happy butt over there. There is nothing this man has done nothing good for this county, just himself.

We invaded the country with no pretense of peace. What would we do if a another country invaded our homeland, destroy our military, water, electrical, government, use our homeland to invite others to fight us? This stopped being a war on terror a very long time ago ( remember Bush declaring Victory? three years ago? ).
WWJD?
If we are not willing ( and it is not “right ), to line up about 1,000,000 fighting age males and put a bullet in their heads, what are we there for? War is terrible, exhausting, and damaging.
The only people that this has helped is the military contractors. Has it helped us? the USA? Irag? Isreal? anyone, Bueller?
Please stop saying that if we don’t fight them there, they will be in our streets. It simply is not true. Not even close to being true. More fear mongoring.