U.S. Army Pulls TV Recruitment Ad Containing Falsehood

Yeah! “Be All You Can Be”…jus as soon as you get back from Iraq! (if you come back). :)

I am sure ABC and The National Association of Boards of Pharmacy are just so darned perfect that they never make a mistake…..
That’s all this was, a mistake. I suggest both of the above worry about something really important instead of playing “Gotcha” with the US Army.
Be thankful there are people willing to step up and defend your freedom of speech through service in the US Army and the other branches.
If you want a case in contrast, travel to Venezuela and try writing something unflattering about that government. Bet you won’t get an apology for inaccuracy as they lock you away in the nearest dungeon.

Ben, get out of here. It’s their job to hold people accountable. You’d think that the government office in charge of putting these ads out would at least check to make sure their accurate.
The Colonel even says that he doesn’t have the expertise. Well, get the expertise, because you’re in charge!

How could this have been a simple mistake by the army? They have an entire department responsible for this stuff. And even if it WAS a mistake, they should have issued some sort of public correction and apology.
As far as Venezuela goes, Ben, you seem to imply that locking people in dungeons is the right thing for a government to do when its citizens ask questions. Don’t threaten reporters looking out for the American people.

Dose this mean that I’m not going to be a door gunner on the Space Shuttle?

Patrick:
Thank you for your service to this country, sir.
But how do you know that the mistake in the ad was “a simple typo,” especially considering that the production of Army ads is handled by one specific office of the Army?
And what “federal case” has been made of it? This article is all that I know of concerning this story.
That’s exactly the exaggerated, imprecise wording the article mentions.
Your post didn’t make perfect sense grammatically or otherwise, either.

i am just wondering about the poor kids that signed up with the army to become a pharmacist/health care technician.
Do they have the option to leave the army without being penalized?
chakie

“sorry, we’re not as liberal as you zeke.”
Posted by: marinesniper | Jun 22, 2007 9:59:53 PM
Actually Snippy, I’m a lifelong registered Republican.
Got anything relevant to add to the discussion?
You are apparently another “believer” who cannot see the forrest for the trees. That’s sad.
The Army is in desparate straights to fill billets. It has people who are responsible for oversseing their privatized advertising campaigns. Do you honestly believe they don’t know truth from fiction when it comes to what they are asking others to sell on their behalf?

Seems like a mistake to me. Nowadays, most people are too cowardly to lie directly but stupid enough to make mistakes.

This is nothing new to the Army. They have been following this pattern of misinformation in job discriptions for years. I myself was a victim of this continuos scam by the Army of lying or just not changing MOS disciptions for fear noone would sign up. I doubt seriously if they will ever change their practices. The Col. that said he couldn’t keep track of the 150, come on thats not that many. As long as they are allowed to operate this way unchecked they will.

You all are giving the federal government (in this case, the Army) a whole lot more credit than is due. The Army is made up of fallible individuals, who mean very well but do make mistakes.
We Army folks are not so hard up that we deliberately lie in a recruiting ad to deceive legions of young Americans to sign up to work in a pogue pharmacy.
I’ll tell you what it is, since none of you have any evident familiarity with how Army recruiting ads are made, and I do, because I worked for Recruiting Command.
The ad campaign is — surprise — put together by a civilian ad agency. Those ads are supposed to be vetted (no pun intended) by the contracting officer in consultation with staff officers in USAREC.
Obviously, someone did not pay sufficient attention as to the prerequisites for being a licensed pharmacist. So what? They pulled the ad as soon as some pharmacy nerd pointed it out. Good for them.
You people wouldn’t know jack about recruiting, nor how hard it is these days. Most kids these days are either too fat, too spoiled, or too high to enlist anyway.
And even when they are qualified, half the time they’re too f-ing scared of Iraq, and the other half has got their momma f-ing scared of Iraq telling them some other momma’s boy gonna join, but not you.
I’m sick and tired of armchair critics. You say you support the troops? Get off your lazyboy and JOIN THE ARMY. That would be real support.

As a former 91Q, AKA Pharmacy Specialist, in the US Army I am glad they pulled the ads. A military trained Pharm Spec is highly trained not in just filling ‘scripts but in compounding specialty items, making basics meds from raw chemicals, plants, etc. We are also trained ,in my day 1980′s, as combat medics prior to even going to our pharmacy school. It was a 6 month, 8 hr a day training program that has no civilian position that equals the skills learned. So you either go down to being a basic pill counter, pharm tech at some low wage drug store, or a low wage tech in a hospital. When I got out I saw my options and really couldn’t use my skills other then I got to use 36 college credit hours if I choose to go to a pharmacy school. But by then most pharmacist had been reduced to slaves to the box stores and forced into glorified assembly line leaders, sad reality.
Yes, a pharmacist even in military units have to check/clear and has ultimate responsibility for all actions within the pharmacy. Altho, in the army you did have to learn to be proficient with a 50cal machine gun, and other weapons (pharmacies are high risk targets from enemy, locals and our own people sadly). It and the surgery were the only 2 areas mandated with air conditioned units, if only 1 A/C available the pharmacy got it due the danger of the medications deteriorating from excessive heat and/or humidity.
So if any of you glory heads thinking of being some hero in your own mind just because you sign up, don’t that is the totally wrong attitude. Any idiot can go fight a war, bur the mark of a true warrior and hero is how they conduct themselves in war. To act morally and up to the high standards the USA used to value before the Bush raped Geneva conventions for his own power ride. Why do you think you NEVER hear in media about all OUR missing over there? Because since WE torture and kill without much regard to the civilians, you know they won’t treat our guys and gals any better then we do theirs, unless they choose to take the higher road. I praise all serving now who have the backbone and strength of character to refuse a unlawdul, immoral order and report those who go too far for the situation. Those are the true unsung heros in this war besides the obvious ones. If you are signing up as an economic draftee then try to get into a high level specialty job in the med field like pharm spec, physical therapy spec, it will let you remain around people and be compassionate (unless you take part in extreme questioning then you have to answer to God for your tortuous ways and the insult to the core of beliefs within the med field of do NO harm to ANYONE)
Yeah I rambled but, geez, I am 44yo and found out if I wanted to I could get back in they are so hard up for warm bodies especially with brains, education, and not on the edge of psycho-ville or habitual offender type. I say if you support the Army people re-institute the draft so ALL areas of socio-economic classes will have to serve equally in all our known and hidden wars going on. Right now with the intentional moving of the economy to retail and service low wage crap jobs there is a real hard pressure placed on poor and middle class people to join out of basic desire to just get by. There has got to be a point where we the people say enough is enough.
My deviation from storyline is over, my apologies to all for the all over the place digression.
Shout out to all the Quaaludes from the Ghetto by the crematorium at FSH Summer of 1983. Peace for all soon, let us pray……. sigh.

Well now, maybe someone could explain to me why my two TEENAGED (14&16) sons keep recieving solicitations in the mail from the US Army, Navy, National Guard, etc.???? Each one is very well made, as far as enticing a teenager… also, each one offers gifts, like a backpack, a ballcap, a t-shirt, etc., if they will reply with personal information! I will add one son has been recieving these since he was 13!!! I would also note we live in a very rural area, in a very poor district. They really should just stop sending things to my mailbox, cuzzzzzz… it aint ever gonna’ happen! No one.. I repeat NO ONE is ever going to teach my children how to commit murder!! Nu uh!!! No Way!! Not gonna’ happen on my watch, and last time I looked those boys belonged to ME, not Dubya!!!
By the way… do not be fooled, folks! Dubya is no christian!!! If he were, he’d follow Jesus, for Jesus said this:
“Pray for your enemies…. bless those that would curse you and despitefully use you…. love your enemy… never repay evil for evil… if they slap your right cheek offer them your left… if they ask for your coat, give it and your shirt as well….” and on and on and on…
Dubya has obviously overlooked the Book of James 4:1-4 !!! He needs to go back and read it because it says that men’s wars eminate not from God, but from the evil hearts of men, who want what they can’t have that belongs to someone else, so they kill to try to take it. But God says this will not work, and even when they pray to Him, they pray and ask wrongly.. “that ye may consume it upon your lusts.”
Dubya needs to either repent… or get real and leave Jesus out of this!!! Don’t be fooled, people… TRUE christians will never start a war, I can promise you that!!
God bless anyone that disagrees with me! (see… that’s how you do it right there.. :D )

The most logical step to end this debate bring back the draft. Or even better make service to the military manadatory for a minimum of 2 years. No one within a certain imposed age line is exempt unless they have medical conditions that are screened by military doctors. That way the tax payers won’t have to fund these “Fabricated Commercials”

I am sending this story to my 17 year old Daughter who is currently being “sold” a medical career in the army by a Recruiter in Bakersfield, CA. They tell her she’ll go to Physical Therapy school and work in a hospital. I know the needs of the Army come first and most likely for her first tour she’ll get basic medical training and a tent in Iraq. Why can’t they be honest?