FBI Would Skirt the Law With Proposed Phone Record Program, Experts Say

If the FBI is paying them to keep your records, then the FBI is still guilty as a party to the crime. Works just like paying someone to kill somebody, just because you didn’t pull the trigger doesn’t make you innocent.

Nice, my tax dollars are being used for the purpose of spying on me.

You know, it’s only aproblem if you’re doing something secretive you’re either embarrased by or is criminal. I mean, go ahead, check my internet history, read my emails–there’s nothing there worth getting worried about. If the government then didn’t respect law abiding ‘decent’ people then they’d get us, regardless, with or without these measures in place. The outcry seems to be a lot of paranoia and guilty consciounces trying to squelch any possibility of being exposed. So, I have to ask all those up in arms, what are you hiding?!!

Sounds like Cheney is thinking again. “How can I circumvent the law and get information on everyone in America? Right, I’ll get two no bid contracts to two very right wing Republican companies to do the dirty work and therefore I did not break any law.” YOU ARE GUILTY OF CIRCUMVENTING THE INTENT OF THE LAW!! GO TO JAIL!

This is disturbing. When a government is given too much police power, even for ostensibly correct reasons, it creates the potential for corrupt individuals or cabals to exploit these advantages for political advantage. This is why we have limited government powers.

I noticed I had to click on “Remember personal info?” is that for sale too. Wake up America, and see what is happening all around you. Bit by bit what used to be is being whittled away, in the name of patriotism, and fear. You’ve been had.

I pay taxes that go to the FBI so that they can hire a private company to spy on me. The private company then uses my tax dollars to fund their lobbyists to influence lawmakers into passing legislation that only serves to rip me the consumer off in the marketplace.
Capitalism.
Ahhh, yes, now I get it!

You can’t run an opposition campaign from Guantonomo Bay. To the folks who say “go ahead, I’m not doing anything wrong”, I say look around you. In countless nations, those in power use these capabilities to remain in power. The laws are passed to catch the terrorists, and then are turned against dissenters. And who are they? Anyone the government perceives as a threat to its power. To a Republican, perhaps Democrats need to be spied upon, or locked away. To a Democrat, maybe its all Rush Limbaugh listeners. Legal weapons are always used in ways the original legislators never intended. One day, the government will mark as “terrorists” all those who want to remove those in power from office. You can’t run an opposition campaign from jail.

A lot of you commenting on this are taking this too lightly. Every day our system is getting more and more corruptable, and it is getting time–hell, it is past time–that we citizens act and stand up to this socialist, fascist or whatever we are becoming, and take this country and our government back. Don’t read this and shake it off. I’m serious folks. This country went to HELL years ago.

“If you are not breaking the law, whats the big deal?? I don’t care if they listen to my conversations or record my internet browsing. Don’t act suspect and you have nothing to worry about!!!!!!!”
So what does GWB, Osama Ben Cheany, and, Gonzales hae to hide!!!???? If you are not breaking the law, whats the big deal??
This is the voice of tyrany sir!!!!! Get outta my country!!!

To those who say “if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about” It’s not about hiding anything, it’s about protecting our privacy. If we give the Govt. the right to do this, what’s next? Pretty soon they’ll want to install video cameras in each of our houses to make sure we’re not constructing bombs. Would you say the same thing then? If so, move to a dictatorship so that reasonable people like myself can maintain our democracy and our rights.

“Through history, tyranny has not always foamed at the mouth. In the beginning, it often wears an earnest, sincere face. Eventually, though, it begins to harp incessantly about threats and enemies; it comes to treat dissent as treason, and civil libirty as an unwise luxury.
“Our nation’s founders had lived through such a sequence of tyranny. That’s why they were at pains to fashion elaborate checks on the chief executive’s power; they saw power’s innate tendency to view whatever it wants to do as just, necessary, and subject to no outside control.”

I don’t want the money spent on this method if it does not work. Put in the system for a small test immediately. Start with the executive branch and see if all messages are available for Congress to review or whether some messages disappear. If they disappear, then Congress should not approve the money for a system for everyone not in the White House.

Actually thats its not true that if your innocent oyu have nothing to hide. Thats a fallacy that many in the former soviet empire found out the hard way. Thats not to mention those that had the hand of the stasi or the nazis before them. We have become complacent, but the fact remains that the government is not always a benificient entity.
Perhaps german ancestry becomes illegal today, or being a relative of a former nazi becomes a death penalty offense, perhaps your child recevices a random spam email from an al qaida linked group. They could round you up for being associated with those groups. They could wisk you to gitmo or any other black site, and noone in your family, or normal government would have any knowledge of it.
Privacy is a primary right. The government has no need to look into the records, communications, or intentions of free citizens. We have documented, repeated proof, that once that pillar of freedom is broken down, the rest are soon to follow.

To those who say “Who cares if they keep my info” I have a few words for you. You think you are safe and that you do not pose a threat with your activities. Since they have your info, the moment you oppose anything that the “government” want to pass, it is too easy to use anything against you…even modified information. It is another civil liberty that is removed from my children’s rights, and one day when you wake up you will find you have no rights. Period, end of story. You pay your taxes, you vote, you are a good American, but if you do not “live up to” their idea of what they want our country to be, you are now the enemy. Your ignorance and your lack of action will cost ALL OF US our country.

Nothing to worry about if there’s nothing to hide???
Bush believes he can lockup anyone-
Don’t like the war, don’t like his immigration plans, maybe your child was left behind, maybe you’re a democrat! Look out! You could wake up on the wrong end of Cuba!

Get Congress together on impeaching Bush and Cheney. Call Bush and tell him adios.

The far right Constitution haters are dancing in the streets.

To this story one must understand…there is no true privacy as I have learned on this land…this is why the saying has been”if you can’t say anything nice don’t say it” my friend…we are humane but to much has gotten out of control…so we loose our right for good and bad, evil looms in every humane…but discipline, and good teaching doesn’t always correct itself, we have become so overly smart we can’t even tell who is real and who is not…we are in a race war, a religion war, a culture war, and a overseas war…why! I once relied on the Detective, and the Spy for good intent on thy brother, but when its to shift power for another, I do not believe that this populus who breeds…is so powerful that we don’t see, but we have Leaders, followers, and hired help to each of corporations to be the best…why is it that none of us can put our heads together and come to the table with ego’s left outside the door, take your shoes off before crossing the floor, and do like the Japenes, bow your head, speak civilly or this America will loose what we hope for in the aftermath of our Men and Women so far from home…..Drugs, Sex, Corruption at best, it begins in the minds of men…The soldiers who are at home bring this to the forefront so we will know…will it change our votes to come, if we do not wake up there will be nothing left to hold on too, this is just a request. Apache

Gee, and none of us saw that coming. I mean, it isn’t like it’s the new standard operating procedure or anything, is it?
What’s that again about fascism being the merging of government and business?

I M P E A C H

So what if the FBI wants these corporations to keep records. They don’t care about Jim Bob from Alabama’s conversations but, thank goodness, they do care about suspected terrorists and their plans. Terrorists want to kill us. Any means by which they can be stopped is wonderful. Believe me, the FBI doesn’t care if shoes are on sale at Belk’s or that your sister is gonna pick up Katie from ballet. Those corporations aren’t “spying” on anyone but if the FBI wants to check up on a suspected terrorist then we should be grateful that at least someone is trying to keep us safe.

i’m pleased to be in the company of somany who want our US Constitution to prevail.
Ya know when Britain and Canada attacked, sacked and burned the White House (now the ‘Dirty House” – time to take out the garbage eh)…back when James Madison was President – he didn’t sack the rights bought and paid for by the Revolution a few years earlier. He didn’t suspend Habeas Corpus, he didn’t call for Big Brother to “listen in” ( i get the feeling there’s an Arlo Gutherie tune here)
…anyways WE the people have the Right and responcibility to see the documents/evidence that promulgated this insane debacle and currently illegal occupation ~ and to the simpletons who think the the Military Commissions Act, and the disembowelment of our sacred US Constitution, and the illegal surveillance / warrentless wire taps is OK well YOU really have no need for liberty. But WE the People DO!
(gaud what dimwits) ‘ i’m not doin nothin wrong, master, so go ahead an spy on me ‘ soooooo ok but just because i know someone who knows someone who knows Mary Poppins, doesn’t mean i’m guilty,???. You see dimwits it works two ways… soon as we Dems/Liberals/gawd4bidAtheists/ are in total power we’ll come listening into your superkalifragilistic little conversations – but we don’t like Expialidocious conversations }}} they are like poison to US !!!= but we’re in power so buh bye off to Stalag 19.

How can I trust those who do not trust me.? I am a patriotic American Nd I love my country. BUT If my leaders do not trust me how can I trust them.?

Our civil liberties are being completely eroded in this country while everyone sits back, distracted by ‘American Idol’ and shopping malls. Sadly, most Americans don’t even realize what their rights are anymore. They think something like this is fine. That is exactly what those who are attacking our liberties want. I asked a friend working in China how they can be Communist and Capitalist at the same time. He looked at me and said ‘what is the difference between the US, really?’