Signal to Attack? Worries Over Latest al Qaeda Tape

“The new FBI analysis, reviewing more than 70 al Qaeda messages over the last 14 years, found a recurring theme of “the duty to kill Americans — both military and civilian.” – Over the LAST 14 YEARS! As in all the way back to 1993, when the American public was even more clueless than it is now…AQ is a new thing…yeah, right, …

I don’t think that anyone is saying that AQ is a new thing Jazz. I think they’re all saying that AQ is funded by the Bush administration.

why not. congress has not bothered to secure our borders. what a crock. i hope they are now happy. and when 50,000 are killed by al Qaeda will they still be happy or will they blame the citizens for being good targets. what a shame congress is
frank la may

As DickNBush has assured us, we’re fighting them over there, so we won’t have to fight them here. So, this article can’t be right – since, as we all know, DickNBush have never been wrong. (I’m laughing so hard, I hope I typed that right!)

At least the Liberal Left has things figured out.
Far more economical to have American citizens killed here in our own soil than the military doing exactly what they are supposed to do.
Bush is the real terrorist…..yeah, right!

Well he shouldn’t be -that hard to find. I mean, if we listen to the convoluted tortured logic of our President then he’s either -in- Iraq or else he’s going to attack us because he’s near Iraq or else he’s a threat because we haven’t spent enough TRILLIONS of dollars in Iraq. Or perhaps he’s just an evil guy who will do what he wants with no connection at all to Iraq. We spent all of our money and he’s still coming at us. Good use of the public’s funds. I wonder how many hospitals we could have funded by now?

sounds more like a prayer to me

With all due respect, Mr. Ross, I find your public disclosure of methods and means (VoIP suspicions) professionally irresponsible and damaging and personally enraging.
You have little to prove regarding your investigative abilities, sir, and little to professionally gain from exposing such details. It does, however, seriously damage our ability to observe and monitor the senior leadership of a terorist group who has killed thousands of Americans, at home and abroad, and – as you yourself are reporting even within this report – clearly seeks to kill more of our citizens between our shores.
We used to be able to monitor Usama bin Laden by his (and others’) use of satellite phones until the media publicly reported our means then.
Just because you learn something does not obligate you to report it.
I beg of you and your editors, please check your ego at the door when tempted to report extremely sensitive material.

I think any prudent intel person would take pause with the consistency of language in the communiques. That is what the article references. I also think it is important to note that the warnings ABC is passing along to the public are what we, the public, asked for after 9/11. Remember the disgust and anger we all felt after hearing that the agencies all had some kind of knowledge that chatter indicated an attack? Well, now you are getting the information that we all wanted. Don’t be a whiner about conspiracy theories and Bush. If an attack happens, it’s not because of Bush goofs. Its because that is what they do and it won’t stop after Bush is gone.

Thanks for that insightful comment Jazz. Very helpful.

1995- “The Net” starring: Sandra Bullock. There is a scene where she enters and internet cafe and there is a computer screen showing the CIA most wanted…Osoma Bin Laden is pictured on the Screen.
-”Any man willing to trade freedom for Security deserves neither…and will lose both.” -Ben Franklin

It’s remarkable that, after nearly six years, US Intelligence is still only on the fringes of understanding the nuances of Al-Quaeda’s strategic aims. Almost seems like a fishing expedition than real intelligence gathering and analysis/

That’s what people are saying eh? Did he start funding them before or after he faked the Kennedy assasination from a grassy knoll on the moon?

hey liberal Ed, who funded AQ the first 6 years then??? surely not the clintons, right? whackjob!

I believe that all borders should be secured, and potential AQ cells be deported back to their country they have no BUSINESS in United States, these people will bring only evil on our land. They are stone age homosapiens.

What part of Love thy Enemy, implies we should kill them

This is news reporting? I cannot imagine what earthly good it does me or anyone else to have information about Al Qaeda’s most recent coded message. When you find out what it all means, then you’ll have some news!

As long as we keep runing scared every time they put some nonsensical messge out, they win. After all, this is Terrorism, not Killingism. Afraid is what they want us to be. Worried is how they want to keep us. I for one refuse to let them win. I am NOT afraid of the Big Bad Wolf. I think he is a coward hiding behind somwone elses border. I would face him down anytime, anywhere with any weapon of his choice. Come on Osama, how about pistols at 25 paces? Bring it on Big Bad Wolf. YOu aint so Big or so Bad either. You sir are a coward!!

Everyone should understand that many of the posts in this forum come from the terrorists themselves. If you listen to what is being said you will understand it is a tactic to get America divided. These are not liberals, or conservatives. They are terrorists playing the devils advocate.

Should we start buying duct tape and rolled plastic again

If these messages are posted on the internet,why don’t you people ever tell
us where they’re posted?Why don’t you post a link here so we can here the
message ourselves?Could it be because you know these things are staged by our
own government,and you don’t want us
to figure it out?To late,we already
have

No wonder we are easy targets……there is too much skeptisism in and amongst US and British citizens. If we were told the truth from our sleep deprived US leaders and the President then we normal everyday people would be buying and building houses with bunkers 1000 feet in the ground. I don’t care what anyone says or doesn’t say….I will always believe the boy who cried, “Wolf.” It will keep me alive longer…..and in the end….who will still be standing alittle beaten up and bruised? ME!

“The ease and frequency of the propoganda messages…”
Like 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue doesn’t have state of the art stuff?

Chuck – goodness, I just popped bug-eyed when I read your post. “staged by our own government” My, my….what brainwashing encampment have you been in? You need to get out of that bunker and into the sunlight.

Deputy Bob said, “It’s scandalous that this guy continues to belch out these videos”
But Bob, it’s NOT A VIDEO!! The government and press want you to think it’s a video, but this is an AUDIO recording with a static image of Zawhari on the screen. They want you to believe this is Zawhari talking, but NOBODY KNOWS who’s voice is on the tape. I have a BIG problem with this deception. These audio tapes can be produced by any idiot with a computer. I don’t put it past a US or foreign intelligence agency to produce these audio tapes and leak them to the press to scare the public into submission. Ask yourself why YOU can’t find these recordings anywhere on the Internet. They are supposedly being ‘posted’ to websites, but for some reason only ABCNEWS gets access to these videos from their anonymous sources. The government could easily find the people posting these videos through simple internet traffic analysis, yet they NEVER DO! This is because these videos are being leaked to the government or news media by known sources. This deception must stop NOW. Demand answers to where these tapes come from.

chuck davis correct! we amerikasans is fools@

when they track this brave jihadist down what do you bet he’ll put on a dress to try to sneak away like the brave Pakistani jihadist did at the Red Temple madrasa this week.

We can blame any and all politicians – they are all responsible for the safety of the citizens in this country. They are all power mongers who forget what they promise to do when they get into office. They all get an F as far as I’m
concerned.
Let’s close the borders indefinitely,
find the bad guys here, lock them up
for life – no deportations. Let
them rot in jail and
save taxpayer money while we’re at it.

Blah blah blah.. all Bush and Dickies fault my rear.. How about blaming Billy for letting Osama live long ago when they had the chance.. Maybe we would not be in the pickle we are in now. Or how about blaming the politicians that were in office 20+ years ago for allowing our boarders to be open.. Maybe they should loose their benefits for 5 years to pay for the new boarder protection? Or how about we blame the companies (swift and others) for allowing illegals to work for them? Why should there even be a discussion about the boarders now? That should be cut and DRY.. GET OUT AND STAY OUT ILLEGALS!!! This talk about blaming Dick and George is getting old.. How about blaming your self.. How about YOU standing up and taking action your self.. If you can not be part of the solution then you ARE part of the problem..

I dont understand this is 2007 right? If the call was placed over internet VOIP cant the CIA do a traceroute or hire some IT savvy lone-gunmen type person to locate these scoundrels??? It sounds like something a script-kiddie could do!

I agree with “Gee”! Bring it on,!

Like the Democrates would be doing any better. This is not a Republican/Democrat problem and who would be doing better. Our situation comes from arrogance. The arrogance of political leaders in the past and those in charge of the CIA and FBI. We should clean house, shut our borders, and spend more time protecting ourselves and less time being concerned with other foreign countries.

Hey “Me.” What time Willy spent with Monica? Very little compared to constantly being hauled before a committee about everything the republican’s could throw at him. The way I see it is that you guys managed to blow a whole bunch of his time to do this sort of stuff. And now you whine because it’s all his fault. Maybe you should have given him a minute to do his job.

Leave the door to the hen house open and unguarded and the fox will enter. Our borders should have been secured decades ago. Maybe if the terrorist attack the senate, white house, and capital buildings, our government will wake up.

I’m sure glad our global “war on terror” has been worth the three-quarters of a trillion dollars we’ve already spent! As you know, WE’RE FIGHTING THEM OVER THERE SO WE DON’T HAVE TO FIGHT THEM OVER HERE. I feel so safe! Excellent use of America’s dollars. Can someone actually demonstrate to the American people what good this has all been since 9/11? We’d actually be better off had we done nothing at all.
(Looks like Georgie Boy and Dickie Boy are going to have to come up with a new set of talking points after the next big attack.)

Oh, and by the way, lets make sure we KEEP ignoring the open border on the entire southern flank of the United States. Terrorists are too stupid to realize they can walk into the country that way. They only think they can come through JFK.

MEMRI- Middle East Media Research Institute is a good website that monitors the media from the middle east.

You would think that we have a computer specialist somewhere with a nerd factor high enough to hack and disable their communications. There are 15 year old kids out there that could do it.

Palestinian Media Watch monitors the Palestinian media. PMW broke the story about the PA, Hamas version of ‘Mickey Mouse’. ABC News is obviously reading PMW and MEMRI’s work.

One word…”Armegeddon”

If we get hit again – I say we begin Operation Sea of Glass. Enough of this nonsense.
Ya know – Americans aren’t opposed to war – they’re opposed to losing. Stop hogtying our military and let our full force be unleashed!

I hate to see any innocent American die. However, until Democrats understand the true nature of the enemy and his ruthlessness, Democrats will continue to play the blame Bush game. Once AQ attacks us on a scale that will even bring the Dems to their knees, we can finally put an end to these crazy Folks. Surrender is teh only game Dems understand…if we want to live, we need to end this religious war once and for all. We have teh power and will to do it if the Dems get out of the way and stop protecting our enemies.

Keep making jokes about this administration, cannot wait to see who you vote into office, or do any of you actually vote?

It gets a whole lot OLD to read the people on here bashing Bush. Wake the hell up you people.
Start asking the questions your democrats are not bothering to answer. What happens to Iraq when we pull out?
What happens to oil supply to America when Saudi Arabia goes into chaos which means your gas tank, your electric and your home heating this winter?
The big one is what happens when America looses New York or several of our schools go up like in Russia?
President Bush tried building self governments and Americans gave up on it. We can’t invade any more nations as we can not afford it.
So for all the idiot bitching on here I repeat WAKE UP! You will be bitching and blaming Bush, prodding Pelosi and Reid to do “something”.
All that is left is a nuclear response as you have STOPPED WAR AS A RESPONSE AND AMERICA IS EVACUATING IRAQ.
This is your policy now. Nothing is left, so stop bitching and get it figured out that al Qaeda is coming and the only response you have left the United States is to die and to use nuclear weapons on the terrorist strongholds.
I repeat this is your policy as certain as that traitor Ted Koppell in his reading the list of dead and the Plamegate coup. You set this up and pointing fingers at Bush saying snide comments is not solving a problem when tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Americans are dead.
It is easy to bitch, but how are you going to solve this as your Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Edwards and Obama have not come up with one answer.

It is truly amazing how those posting here continue to blame the President but say nothing about the terrorists who have put us in this position by continuously murdering innocent men, women and children. I’d suggest the pukes take a look at the Nick Berg beheading and then tell me who the real terrorist is.

Remember in the 90′s when the only thing that mattered to the Bush/Coulter Republics was capturing and killing terrorists?
Me niether.
But I do remember the ‘Great Hunt for Clinton Semen Stains’ undertaken by the House Republics.
Now Bush is negotiating with North Korea and is treating terrorist leader Ghaddaffy like Tony Blair.
Congratulations.
-GSD

What’s alarming is the seditious socialist media has propagandized against our own country to the degree that the Congress has voted to cut and run like the true wimps the enemy think we are.

Duty, Honor, Country. That is what Americas foundation is, not the crap you believe in.
So why don’t you do something for America, or are you all too selfish to give something of yourself to this great country you so easily take for as granted.

Witchy:
First responders said they saw landing gear. The plane hit the ground first and bounced into the Pentagon, look at the fireball that it was before it hit the Pentagon. Why am I talking to an insane person? Arguments from conspiracy theorists are so flimsy it is ridiculous.

I think it’s funny that a majority of you commentors point to the Bush Administration for the escalation of islamic jihad. First off there are documented reports of alqaeda, including Osama Bin Laden, in Iraq prior to 9-11. And are you really convinced that our action in another middle eastern country would not have angered the radical sector of the muslim world? We were attacked on 9-11, on the USS Cole, In our African embassy’s, and the 93′ trade center bombings before we ” invaded iraq”. I personally point the finger at a religion gone mad. If you want to blame politicians for the war, blame all who voted, including the left wingers such as Hillary and Kerry. Blame the Democrats for forcing us to water down our Patriot Act. Blame the Democrats for fighting against border enforcement. Blame those liberals who are responsible for choosing to act “humanly” in a time when muslim world has planted a bulls eye over every free nation. Do not blame our president for a religious fanaticism that is rearing it’s ugly head, not for the first time, but once again after thousands of years of fighting.

Vote Democratic Party – they think if they leave us alone we will leave them alone.

If there is an attack on our soil and it is done by anyone who snuck in illegally, I will hold every Congressman responsible. The blood will be on their hands. We have demanded a border fence for years now…and yet they are still waiting. What the hell are they waiting for? 3000 more dead Americans?
But I guess that’s what it’s going to take for our elected officials to get serious about national security, and it what it will take for Americans who think there is no real threat to wake the hell UP!

Why oh why does everyone INSIST on placing the blame on any gov’t body? Al Qaeda wants ALL the world to be ISLAMIC, THEY are the bad guys, not the current president (all right so maybe a bit, lol) or the past presidents. Sheesh people, if you feel that strongly that they are to blame, start lobbying your congressman to pass the 9/11 resolutions that they’re all dragging their feet on. Put your energy into that!!! Al Qaeda are BAD people, they don’t care who they kill to get their way. THEY are the culprits, not us for God’s sake. Pulling out of IRaq or Afghanistan will not make them go away, nor will staying there, they want to convert us all, or kill us, whichever comes first.

If Richard Clarke were really an AQ ‘expert’, wouldn’t 9/11 have been avoided?
Hats off to all you ‘truthers.’ Like South Park said, you’re too smart for the rest of us.

Nobody talks about the war getting too crowded. With the population growing and India and China having huge economic growth coupled with pollution, it is no wonder the earth is warming. Alternative fuels are nice, but we need a global initiative to stop growth. China has been able to keep their growth stable and we need to do it everywhere else.

One thing this thread makes plain: Americans, including those in the White House and Pentagon, have no idea who the enemy is.
Who ARE we fighting in Iraq now, anyway? Is it (a.) Saddam’s Baathists? (b.) al-Qaida terrorists? (c.) Al-Sadr’s Shiites? (d) Pro-Iranian elements?
Unfortunately, the answer is (e.) all of the above. The fact that these groups, most of whom have longstanding animosity toward EACH OTHER, are now all fighting US, tells me something real scary.
We can’t talk about “winning” before we have a clear idea of whom we need to defeat. At first it was Bin Laden, but we couldn’t find him. So we attacked Saddam, who even Bush now admits had nothing to do with 9/11. Then it was Saddam’s loyal Sunni baathists.
Then someone got the brilliant idea to start calling the insurgency “al-Qaida in Iraq” — benefitting from OBL’s brand name even though it had almost nothing to do with the REAL al-Qaida.
Meanwhile, the country’s long-suffering Shiite majority saw the opportunity to take power (i.e., oil) and boot us out. This pitted them against the Sunnis, and both of them against us.
On the sidelines, Shiite Iran has been eagerly stirring the pot, knowing that a protracted insurgency and civil war will clear us out so they can start to openly back a Shiite power grab that will result in a friendly state.
The problem is not that we WANT to lose. It’s that the dimwitted puppet in the White House SET US UP to lose the moment he made the decision to invade.

Its simple…B-52 with bomb-bay opened doors over Mecca..
end of problem.

There are several reasons Al Queda is likely to succeed in its next attack. (1)-A stubborn President who refuses to kill the enemy and tries to win over savages with candy bars. (2)-A partisan, bickering Comgress more interested in reelection that protecting Americans. (3)-Idiot liberals.

The democrats should realize that Bush is probably the greatest president this nation has seen in DECADES! They’d rather have Clinton in office who ‘plays around’ while at work. Clinton’s work ethic really ‘blew’.

And now for all you Republicans… chill out. It just takes another big event and we’ll be back on the hunt again. Everything cycles and so will our vengeance when we get hit again. Don’t sweat it, we ain’t stopping the hunt because they ain’t stopping theirs.

I think the concern may be that Islam requires three pleas for conversion before killing an Infidel. That was one of the criticisms of Osama by other Muslims after 9/11 – that he hadn’t made such pleas. The repetition at the end of this message sounds like an acknowledgment that the requisite pleas have been made so an attack can move forward. That may be what is concerning law enforcement.

Operation Sea of Glass… I like the sound of that…giddyup

There is a whole lot of common sense in most of these posts. I was also one who thought GWB was the savior…certainly better than Kerry. I thought going into Iraq was also wise, but like the State Dept, I didn’t realize that Saddam needed those rape rooms, grinding machines, executions and poison gas to keep those folks down on the farm. I was an English major; should have studied Middle Eastern politics. We don’t grind, hardly bomb and have nukes but cannot use them. Yep, like my war, Viet Nam, except this time BOTH hands are tied behind our backs. Mine lasted 17 years and 57,000 KIAs…believe this will be shorter, but agree the mushroom cloud may be headed our way before we wake up. Good posts guys and girls…

I am shocked by the insensitivity and close-mindedness expressed in these comments. As a world leader it is our responsibility to open our arms and invite new cultures into our country/society. The peace loving religion of Islam is merely trying to spread the fabric of its love and tolerance to the four corners of the globe. How arrogant of us to assume that our way of life is better than theirs! The time has come to lay down our arms, open the borders, and welcome these gifted and talented people into our country.

When we finally take the time to stop bashing bush and start bashing terrorist maybe we can win this war. But now is all about running down the stret screaming “Bush Did It..Bush Did it!!”

So we’re so grown up we still talk about “cowards and yellow bellies” …from our little computer in our mommy’s living room? Can we get some grownups here?
Like the person, thank you, who knew the origin of the repeated words…a last sermon.

Dang Eddie….you’re a genius. Seriously. I’ve never heard the entire mess in the Middle East explained so eloquently and efficiently. Gee…Bush’s fault, eh? What a well thought out and unique perspective. And people say liberals like you are idiots. You’re my new hero, Eddie.

To bad the Democrats spent all the countries energy on making Bush the terrorist. So now we all can just wait for our slaughter since the Dem plan “fight them over here” is in motion. After all that’s what the election was about, the Dems were going to lead the way. Anyway…
Noticed the Dem congress is down to 11% in the polls, I guess Americans figured out what they bought.

Amen Gee! Bring it on!

Bush is way down in popularity…time to push the terror threat button again. The only way he can boost his numbers is the scare us to death.

Good job ABC, making sure everyone receives the coded message…

Who needs Al Qaeda to destroy America, when libs are doing such a great job of it already?

Hey Jacques:
I can tell you’re a mature, thinking person by your handle. But last I checked, the terrorists are only capable of blowing up bombs and frightening people.
Best I can figure, what’s destroying America is the Bush administration’s systematic dismantling of the Constitution, its prosecution of an incredibly costly elective war, and its criminal refusal to work on behalf of the nation’s human (rather than corporate) population.

I encourage you all to read ‘Day of Islam’ by reporter Paul L. Williams. He details that plans for a nuclear ‘American Hiroshima’ since 93′by UBL and he may have 40 nukes already. Get your heads out of Mike Moore’s rear all of you and think for yourselves- Please. You sheeple are devoid of historical context, spineless, and weak. You think that the speed bump with 4,00 casualties in Iraq represents a real War? If the Islamists have their way we will lose millions here in our cities. I bet you intellectual giants will still spout the same anti-Bush crap that you get from MoveOn and the like. Useful idiots!

All of this political finger-pointing is exactly the reason we are having problems executing the war on terror. Americans are divided on this issue (including securing the border) because we are raised to be compassionate people, for the most part. The enemy is the exact opposite of compassionate. He is ruthless, enabling his survival and even to to thrive against much more powerful entities (USSR, USA). Any retreat by us, no matter how small, will be viewed by the enemy as a large victory and embolden them to continue their “mission”. There are no diplomatic solutions when dealing with an enemy who is not only willing to die, but WANTS to die in the course of fighting. There is one way and ONLY one way to defeat such an enemy. Overwhelming force and a complete destruction of their infrastructure. We even have the blueprint, we’ve destroyed an enemy with such a mindset before. Until we gain the intestinal fortitude to again win whatever the cost, we will continue to chase our tail as politicos worry about sound bite governance and bumper sticker campaigns.

I think the poster “dutch” above is right. how can any American view all this with nothing but suspicion?
Terror war? with wide open borders? … what terror war?
If anything truly bad happens to the US in the future, knowing that our government helped create al queda to fight the soviets in afgahnistan years ago, and to this day has left our borders WIDE OPEN… well, i hope all Americans on that day will focus their anger where it should be, right at our government and its politicians.

What I would say to all those posting is…. Have you researched all the sides in this story,Government,war, and 911? My beliefs are my own and I am on the side of truth. How can anyone push one sides agenda or the others without first TRULY exploreing all sides and posiblities? America needs to wake up and seek the truth. No matter where it leads. For without truth there is no winning to be had. Without truth one can only be played as the pawn they are.

If another major terrorist attack occurs on Bush’s watch (with 9/11 being the first), the neo-conservative agenda is FINISHED for good (if it’s not already finished). We’ve been promised time and time again that ‘fighting them in Iraq’ keeps them from ‘fighting us here’. And now the administration has the gull to spread fear about an imminent attack on US soil this summer!? If that happens, and we all hope it doesn’t, then the public is going to rebel against this incompetent foreign policy. It is clear we are doing nothing but inflaming more minds by the senseless invasion of Iraq. The people spoke in November 2006, and they will speak much louder in ’08!

News flash, they’ve now encoded the message. It reads:
VOTE FOR HILLARY
VOTE FOR HILLARY
VOTE FOR HILLARY

And there’s more:
“Please vote for Hillary, we’re tired of being killed. Please vote for Hillary so we won’t die anymore at the hands of you imperialist pigs! Please vote for Hillary, she’ll stop America from killing us so we can kill you imperialist pigs!”

Isn’t the definition of terrorism to cause fear? It is even more important to these savages to have us afraid and effect our daily lives by occupying our thoughts than it is to actually pull somethig off. They are watching the same news that we have been watching since 9/11 talking about “coded” messages etc. Don’t we all realize by now that nearly all of what they do is just BS to stir up fear?

US intelligence also claims that the best entry into the U.S. would be from Europe. Did we forget about…uh, Canada? …Mexico? Regardless of the credibility of this AQ activity/call to instill fear in the hearts of the sheep, I hope all fellow Patriots can join me as I raise my middle-finger high and proud, knuckle white and beaming toward anyone…and I say, ANYONE who wants to threaten America, exogenous and/or from within. E. Plurubus. Unum.

Jim,
I know 4000 deaths in 4 years sounds like a lot, and it is, but you have to put that into perspective. We lost more soldiers than that on a lot of DAYS in WWII. We lost nearly 3000 innocent civilians in a few hours on Sept. 11, 2001. Iraq is most definately an important front in the war on terror and pulling out now would most assuredly not decrease deaths, it would increase them. OBL has implored his people to just continue to fight and sooner or later the Americans would pull out because their citizens are demonstrably weak minded and would demand it. AQ and their ilk aren’t fighting us because we invaded Iraq. They are fighting us because we are infidels. Radical Islam has one goal. World domination under Islamic law. Their religious beliefs demand it. Some of our politicians can’t see the forest for the trees despite the FACT these people laid out their plans for the world to see many many years ago.
Goal #1 – Take over the whole of the middle east
Goal #2 – Move into Europe and repeat #1
Goal #3 – Convert or destroy all Jews and people of the book (Christians)
Goal #4 – Move into the West and repeat #1
Any and all means are to be used in this effort and if you die in the process of achieving these goals you automatically go to heaven. If you cower from any of it you burn in hell forever.
My point here is if you think pulling out of Iraq will make the big bad terrorists back off you are wrong. It will only embolden them to fight harder as they will see it as a sign that Allah has again helped them destroy a more powerful enemy. It’s a mindset most Americans don’t grasp, but we better all learn to grasp it soon.

You people are all idiots, Pelosi and her ilk want to bring our troops home by April ’08. The best thing that could happen for AQ is Hillary Clinton, her husband was a miserable failure, to busy crusin’ for chicks while he allowed OBL to get away. I have no doubt that AQ shell corps. are funding the weak wristed democrats and their bid to turn the US into a new muslim playground. Vote Terrorists in ’08, Vote Democrat!

Liberals are always such useful idiots to dictators, America haters, the Godless and all the scumbags of the world.

Give Pakistan 30 days notice to clear out the tribal areas and nuke the place into the stone age.

You democrats are the idiots. Bush is also an idiot, but at least he understands one thing. You have to take the money out of terorism for it to fail. As long as governments that have billions of dollars to waste to kill us are allowed to spend their billions sending terrorists here to kill us we will never win. This is a war, and a money war, not some security problem. A terrorist without money to come here is just a babbling idiot. If we take the state sponsored money out of terrorism they will all become babbling idiot haters. Then they can spew their hate and burn all the american flags they want in their backward little loser smelly screwed up countries and it will ever affect us one bit. 3000 dead americans is enough, deaths on our soil have to stop. Take the money out of terrorism and they will all be relegated to a bunch of babbling hater jackasses. That is what we must do to beat these jackasses. Try thinking a little in the long term, and for your future children, not just for today. If we would have kept up FDR’s isolationist policies we’d now be a part of the republic of Japan, not the United States of America. Can’t you people think for yourselves? I forgot, that’s why your democracts! Hillary does all your thinking for you.

If or when these iron-age troglodytes decide to fight us on our home turf, those who side with them will also be my targets.

Folks,
Bush says “Fight ‘em in Iraq” so we don’t have to fight ‘em here”. Ain’t workin, now is it?
In 2005 something like 80,000 illegal immigrants picked up on the Mexico border were NOT Mexicans. ABC is telling us that al qaeda is getting people into the U.S., and Michael Chertoff has indigestion in his gut.
Boy, I’m sure glad all our trained fighting forces are 4,000 miles away in some godforesaken useless country, breathing desert sand, and getting blown up by IEDs. While al Qaeda gets ready to attack us here.
The soldiers are going to feel pretty crappy when their families they left behind get blown up in a terrorist attack with them on the other side of the world.
Bush won’t feel bad though. Heck, he’ll be feelin’ pretty good. Safe with his cronies 100 feet underground.

See what I mean? This guy is just a stupid poor idiot spewing his hate speak. He will continue to be a babbling idiot until he has the money to do something that will seriously threaten our country. Keep it up jackass, we’re all laughing at you and your loser hate speak.

The problem with you Americans is that you’ve never been in a war. Except for the fantastic military families that have suffered because they are directly involved in fighting for their country what exactly do the rest of you do? Go to Baseball, soccer, McDonalds, worry about the stock market?
When you have bombs going off in malls, schools, sports stadiums and have truck bombs in the streets perhaps then and only then will the American public finally wake up to the fact the we’re at war and we need to get really, really serious about KILLING our enemy and their supporters before they kill our loved ones first. Until the current weak, scared politicians are prepared to do what we did in Dresden (Germany) and in Japan during the second world war and make these lunatics realize we’re serious, our loved ones will remain in great danger each and every day.
Where is General Patton when you need him?
Let’s forget about what the world thinks about us, let’s go kick some real butt and see these Nazis run for the hills!

New born fawn exploring woods & meadows

…I see a terrorist attack that is massive

What gets me reading the posts of these arrogant warmongering morons is the fear. Read what they have to say. “They’re going to come here.” “They’re already here.” “They’re hiding among us.” “They’re going to get us.” “They’re going to blow us all up.” “They want to take over the world.” “They’re as bad as Stalin and Hitler.”
Stalin? Hitler? Give me a break. Now those guys were scary. Mostly because they had armies. Al Qaida? OBL? We’re talking about a bunch of disorganized, poorly funded amateurs who got lucky. Once.
The bottom line is these terrorists don’t pose a military threat and never did. They don’t have ICBMs or smart bombs or nuclear submarines or even tanks. All they can do is scare us with the threat of killing us in relatively small numbers.
Well, it worked.
Look at the fear in every one of these pro-war posts and you can see why Americans have been acting so un-American lately. We’re led by a frightened man who has let his cowardice drive us into unseemly action. Roosevelt would never have allowed us to display such fear, never mind acted on it, never mind encouraged it (with a safety-coded alert system, no less!).
Fear. In every single post, encouraging us to lash out like a cornered animal. (They’re gonna get us unless we invade _______.) And these cowering wusses have the gall to call us “yellow-bellied cowards” and worse because we can’t be frightened into abandoning our values by a bunch of no-account terrorists?
Puh-leeeeze.
Let’s start acting like Americans. We can never stop them from killing us. But we can stop them from destroying us. All we have to do is remain true to our values.

time for a new approach

I am watching ‘the siege’ right now. Terror cells, bombings, FBI not communicating with the NSA, they even talk about ‘sleeper cells’. This movie was made in 1998! Who is arguing with who on this board. Hollywood constructed the enemy to an exact. Muslim extremism.
We have not been attacked in six years. Blame the administration for th recent build up of al queda activty??!
Blame those who have politically crippled the admin. ability to attack where is needed. (afgan/pakistan border)

> …I see a terrorist attack that is massive
I think it will like background noise. These guys are so tightly covered up, our guys can hear when they pass gas.

I’m sick of people saying that our President is a terrorist. You are idiots if that’s your stance. Truly, you are not even worth arguing with because your vitriol has so limited your ability to think straightly.
What would you have us do with Iraq? How can a permanent presence in the Middle East be a bad thing? Literally ever place we are in the world makes it better. You think we’re out of Europe after WWII? Huh? We’ve been there since, and thank God we are or they’d all be speaking Russian now. You think discussion with these Islamist idiots would work? Well, we’ve been discussing since the Middle Ages and it hasn’t.
Someone once said that doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result each time is the definition of insanity. You people are the “new” definition of insanity. You are next generation hippies who haven’t read the Federalist Papers, don’t understand the great history of this country, can’t see that we give away more than we keep (world’s LARGEST donor of money and goods to Africa for example), champion justice, and are a beacon for freedom everywhere.
If you enjoy Socialism so much (which it seems you do), move your Stalin-loving butts to Europe.

Someone said “The peace loving religion of Islam is merely trying to spread the fabric of its love and tolerance to the four corners of the globe.” and I cannot belive you said that. Were the 60s good for you? Is this 1984? Are you talking double speek? A large proportion of Muslims are indeed peace loving, but they don’t use terror and the killing women and children to spread it.Those who do are heretics, taking their scriptures and using it as a pretext to kill everyone who they don’t like, never mind non-Muslim people. They kill their own people at a faster rate than non-muslim, because their victims are not extreme enough. What does this tell us about their attitudes to us and the thousands of people world wide they have killed? Get your head out of the sand before you get your behind blown off.

First let me say I am against this war. I wished we never went into Iraq, but we are there so we must make the best of it. Zawahri is playing with fire. If they were to orchestrate another terror attack in the USA; it would bring alive 300 million men to fight. Does he realize how many of us there are waiting at home for the day to fight these guys? That bastard will see the burn of hell and there will be no virgins. Do not believe the hype that the American public is ambivalent to this fight. You bring it to our soil again, there will be no turning back. Our President put our Men into a place where they can not succeed. If those brave Men in Iraq do not succeed there will be a entire nation of men ready to destroy all of these terrorists.

Wizard of Oz anyone? Al Qaeda is really al CIAeda.

If Al Gore can create the internet, save the environment from global warming and keep his messed up kid out of prison, why don’t we just send him over there to fix the problem? and while we are at it, we can pack John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy and the other like minded ilk onto the plane with him and once they all land safely, we can bring our troops home.

frank la may – way way way. BOO-YAH!

This tape was produced in the White House media basement by Dick Cheney. The script was written by Karl Rove. It was funded by the RNC. The plot to control the world’s oil reserves continues. The plan to starve old people is on track. And the coup to take control of the American Government is almost ready to be launched by the Radical Right Christians! (Let’s see…did I cover all the loonie left conspiracy theories all in one post?)

Eddie.
Don’t take my word on the 40 AQ nukes; read ‘Day of Islam’ and it will detail how MUCH we are at risk. It is well researched and well annotated.
UBL is not a simple sheep hearder in the Afghan mountains as most of you believe, he and Zawahiri are intelligent and highly educated tacticians with a billion dollar bankroll. $100 mil can buy a nuke ‘starter kit’ for a State to make their own weapons. Russians have confirmed that as many as 84 tactical and suitcase size) nukes (Little Boy size) are unaccounted for. They say that in the early 90′s, potatoes were better guarded than the nukes in the former Soviet Union.
How many of you know UBL has a degree in Physics? How many of you know that Khan the ‘Father of the Pakistani A-Bomb is a friend of UBL’s?
AQ has a carefully orchestrated drug and business empire to cloak their clandestine terrorist dealings to get assets in palce. What we see in the news with random amateurish bombings ARE the distractions to keep intelligence forces fragmented, the populace divided, aren’t the works of UBL. UBL has spent millions buying nukes for simultaneous decapitation strike on the US in DC, NYC, Boston, Miami, LA, and other major cities. Will all of your platitudes matter a whit, or will you then realize that we are all an American people under siege. We cannot reason with Islamists, to them we are animals for slaughter.
I laugh at how may people here think that cell interceptions represent a coming fascism here in the US. DO you think that you are so important the the government can’t WAIT to see what you order for pizza this evening? Not listening for terrorists merits a dereliction of duty, not that you ideologues would notice.
Blame Bush. Blame Bush! See you in the rubble morons.

We are living in the biblical “Last Days.” It’s just around the corner.

Hey Budge – The answer why Zawahirir and OBl hate the US is founde din their hate, in general for the West…it isn’t Muslim.
Islam will only lay down like lambs when tehy are slaughtered.

3x just like how they divorce so that means that we should take him serious
but instead of ‘I divorce you’ 3x ‘Did I not warn you’.
From this high ranking lunatic medic-from-hell like him (remember he is a doctor too) probably something to pay attention to although he has tried many times before with similar threads and everytime since 9/11 failed thanks to covert intelligence work, high alertness of everyone and an enormous amount of good luck so far.
But I am not going to be terrorized by the indeed likely chance that they finally may succeed after 6 years trying really hard and pull off another 9/11 dead amount or 100k death from one or more dirty nuke attacks.
Why? because if I would I would be a statistical idiot.
The chance of getting killed in a car incident is still significant higher
9/11 was with 3000 dead “only” 8% of the fatal car accidents per year. If everyone would wear their seat belt, we would have each year at least 8 times less dead then 9/11.
And if they would nuke a city with 100k dead, well, that is on par with the number of fatal motorcycle accidents in a single year so why are we not outlawing those things?
But the homeland security guy is right when he says he feels something in his gut. It’s is only different from what we think he feels. His stomach is turning around by the realization that we have been so stupid to make the US like a Hollywood fort. Impressive from the front at the airport but wide open at the back at the borders. Did they not reject some time ago an airplane flying over the US to Mexico with some high listed no-fly-watchlist arabs on it. You really think the destination was mexico city?

“Stalin? Hitler? Give me a break. Now those guys were scary. Mostly because they had armies. Al Qaida? OBL? We’re talking about a bunch of disorganized, poorly funded amateurs who got lucky. Once.”
Got lucky? Once? World trade center in ’92. USS Cole. Two US embassies simultaneously. 9/11. Doesn’t look like “once” to me. Sure doesn’t appear to be luck.
“The bottom line is these terrorists don’t pose a military threat and never did. They don’t have ICBMs or smart bombs or nuclear submarines or even tanks. All they can do is scare us with the threat of killing us in relatively small numbers.”
3000 dead civilians in a couple of hours is “relatively small numbers”? People are foaming at the mouth about losing less than 4000 soldiers in almost 5 years in Iraq.
This isn’t “fear-mongering”, it’s accepting reality. Americans weren’t fearful on 9/11, we were angry. Long time pacifists were ready to turn the entire middle east into glass. How quickly we forget.
Our enemy is incredibly patient and perfectly willing to allow us to become complacent before attacking again. They realize the American mindset and know any sustained attacks will rally the populace. They also know that the populace will blame it’s own leaders for their actions as long as they are patient.
Don’t kid yourself with self reassuring notions about the enemy not having a military force. They have a military force far larger than our own, and one that is not only willing to die, but WANTS to die. Their army is worldwide, not just in a single geographic location to be easily found and defeated.
Furthermore, they wear no identifiable uniform nor abide by any rules of war. To the contrary they use our own compassion and respect for human life against us by hiding in Mosques, Hospitals, and School buildings. They willingly use women and children as human shields because they know exploit our sensibilities.
You don’t fear this enemy because you don’t know this enemy. You view him as an uneducated, underfunded, bumbling idiot without direction. That is how he WANTS you to view him. And it couldn’t be further from the truth.

“If Al Gore can create the internet, save the environment from global warming and keep his messed up kid out of prison, why don’t we just send him over there to fix the problem? and while we are at it, we can pack John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy and the other like minded ilk onto the plane with him and once they all land safely, we can bring our troops home.”
Thing is, every one of the people you mention above SUPPORTED this war from the beginning. I wonder if they all have stock in Haliburton?

“Do not believe the hype that the American public is ambivalent to this fight.”
The American public most certainly IS ambivalent to this fight. We live in a microwave society here. Since there hasn’t been an attack on our soil in nearly 6 years the common belief is there will never be one and we should just live and let live.
“You bring it to our soil again, there will be no turning back.”
Again? Twice wasn’t enough?
You are right, though, that it will take another attack within our borders to rally public opinion for another 6 months.
Our enemy is very patient. Our society is not. “Kill ‘em all right now or leave ‘em alone”.

“Hey Budge – The answer why Zawahirir and OBl hate the US is founde din their hate, in general for the West…it isn’t Muslim.”
This is completely untrue. Their hated is founded 100% in Islam and Islamic law. They don’t hate Americans, they hate non-Muslim Americans. They don’t hate America, they hate American politics because it doesn’t practice Sharia law. Islam has no tolerance for any viewpoint other than their own. Anyone and any government that doesn’t adhere strictly to Islam is, by the very nature of Islam, an enemy of Islam. They are commanded to hate us for this reason and this reason alone. And they are commanded to kill any non-muslim who refuses to convert. You can remain a Christian or Jew as long as you pay a high tax for the priviledge and acknowledge all Muslims as superior. Nice concession.
In order to defeat your enemy, you must know your enemy. Most U.S. citizens and press don’t have a clue about Islam. They take the Muslim Imams word for it when these so-called leaders proclaim it a peace loving religion. Problem is, Islam demands you to lie to your enemies until you are in a position to overtake them and many of these same Imams have been videotaped preaching Jihad.
It’s about time we all took a crash course on the subject. I choke every time I hear “Islam is a peaceful religion that has been hijacked by a few radicals”. Making such a statement is to show complete ignorance of what Islam actually is, how it was founded, and it’s founder.
Islam is the exact opposite of peaceful. The exact opposite of tolerant. It’s totalitarian, oppressive (obviously), and totally devoid of compassion. The ONLY way to ensure a path to heaven is to die a martyr fighting for Allah. The reward for doing such is free rein to all of the pleasures expressly forbidden on earth no matter what sins you may have committed previously.
I myself was guilty of claiming Islam was “peaceful” and that they “worship the same God Jews and Christians do” as the politically correct sound bite media kept repeating, until I took the time to find out what the religion is really about. I suggest everyone who reads this do the research and find out the truth about this destructive cult that not only threatens to take over the world, but has that as it’s main goal. Under any circumstances.

All this bs started many thousands of years ago. Then later someone decided to make peace with their enemies to form a band of marauding murderers and thieves, and started attacking anyone that was not in on the devilish scheme.

“Any man willing to trade freedom for Security deserves neither…and will lose both.” -Ben Franklin
Ben Franklin did not live in an age of nuclear terrorism.
Had he, his words would most likely have been different. Some adjustment to our system must be make to handle such a serious threat.

If Al Qaeda carries out their threats. I think that the only thing to do is start bombing some of these countries who claim to be our friends, but are sticking it to us and are supporting terror.

Sadly, the American people are losing their will to fight and kill these cowardly terrorist. But if they succeed in pulling off several large scale attacks they will most certainly reinvigorate our will to seal their fate.
PS – They keep saying “god willing” when they talk about things. Well apparently he “isn’t willing” because the Palestinians have been getting kicked around by the Jews for a very long while.

If their God is so powerful, why do they hide like frightened children?

Don’t you see? They HATE us!!! They hate us for our FREEDOMS! We’re free to be strip-searched at airports, hate us for being free to be broken into when we’re not home, arrested and not charged, tortured for no reason, and have our property seized because we disagree with their statements! Wo betide us…..We have met the enemy, and it is US…

There are 2 wars going on – Afghanistan and Iraq. The Afghan war is not about oil, it is about Osama, AQ and the Taliban. Osama is in Iran and the US Govt continues to mention Pakistan because the Pakistan Govt can handle our mention of it. VoIP technology is just a new technology for terrorist to communicate because there are no means for us to listen in or even track down their location. That is going to be very difficult for us. The new 50 million dollar bounty isn’t the answer – but it demonstrates our technological inadequacies.

This goes out to Steve Schippert, I know alot of people on here blame Clinton for alot of things, but, you all need to do a search on that. Clinton wanted OBL, but was told by certain administration he can’t touch him. If you go do a search and put in Bush-Bin-laden Connection, you will find out why Clinton didn’t get OBL, it’s there in black and white. Please go check it out, you will be amazed at what you read. It is lengthy although. So do it in your spare time.

Okay, call me call me conservative. In fact call me a neocom, war mongering, Bushite, earth first… trash the other planets later, robotlican. But when i see a video of six Muslims with head scarfs screaming ‘God is great.’ and then one of those six holds down a hostage and another of those six pulls out a long kitchen knife, and then that Muslim proceeds to saw off the head of that living human being while the others proclaim that ‘God is great’, and I see this before my eyes…. I see a helpless human being being decapitated right before my eyes……
…..well, I draw some conclusions. And I suppose the main conclusion is that I know who the bad guys are and that. Now I ask you to draw your own conclusion on what we should do about these six and those who openly support their actions and their cause. Should we try to make peace with them? Should we fight them or fight our selves? Should we generate a conspiracy theory that these six were really CIA operatives trying to stir up anti-Muslim hatred?
That image of that human being crying out as he died……
….I know who the enemy is. Not Pelosi. Not Clinton. Not Bush. Not Rove.

What a bunch of wusses. You guys are so scared. You’ve worked UBL and AQ up into this incredible uber-enemy with the will and ability to conquer the world. You’ve projected every fear you’ve ever had onto UBL.
He ain’t all that. We’re talking about a few hardcore ex-mujahadeen, a whole lot of poseurs and a throng of angry and unemployed (but totally disorganized) Arabs.
You guys don’t get this: They CAN’T really hurt us militarily. They can only scare us. They can light off a bomb or crash an airplane — but they’ll be able to do that no matter how many troops we send to Iraq (which isn’t where they’re from anyway).
Militarily, they’re not a threat. They can’t invade our country or take our ports. They haven’t even been able to prosecute a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11, which tells me they’re not even particularly good at their core competency.
But they’re a threat to the American way of life insofar as there are so many of us are willing to squander our hard-won American values and freedoms for their sense of security. That is the great danger they pose, and they are succeeding.
Moreover, they’re a threat to American policy insofar as they have been successful at provoking us into rash foreign policy decisions that destabilize entire regions and tarnish our image in the world.
I don’t think Bush is a terrorist. That’s unhelpful hyperbole. But I do think he’s a frightened little man who hides his fear behind his swagger.
A great president like JFK or Roosevelt would have inspired Americans to stand in the face of danger and — above all — to continue to occupy the moral high ground we fought so hard to win during World War II.
It was this moral high ground (think Nuremburg) that until very recently made our society the envy of other nation and struck fear into dictators. Now we have abandoned it to the moral turpitude of Baghdad, Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib.
Shame on us.

OR maybe this is somekind of prelude to attacking Iran…..I think our Administrations thirst for Blood has not quenched till we loose more of our soldiers….
C’on people, one attack on American soil two countries loose their freedom and Million die, now it’s Irans turn to be a scapegoat.

As a person with conservative values I cannot condone the war in Iraq any longer–it is time to bring the troops home and put a wall of armour around the United States and to dramatically change our immigration policies and virtually shut down our borders, and I say TO HELL with the rest of the world.
I am also sick and tired of an administration that feels we have to shove our way of life down the rest of the world’s throat.

Two wars no at least 12 my friend

WWIII is well underway. Allies killed maybe 10K. Militants killed maybe 50K. So far so good.
People can lie to themselves and say we started it or we are behind it, but we’ll still protect them, because they are not smart enoungh to defned themselves.
Please thank W and the VP.

Eddie:
“The bottom line is these terrorists don’t pose a military threat and never did. They don’t have ICBMs or smart bombs or nuclear submarines or even tanks. All they can do is scare us with the threat of killing us in relatively small numbers.”
We are engaged in a proxy war with Iran and Syria, while fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. The terrorists are not a small band of disorganized terrorists, they have access to sophisticated intelligence and weapons. That’s why it is called “state-sponosred” terrorism. During the recent engagement in Israel, when the soldiers were kidnapped, we were engaged in a full-scale proxy…do you doubt for a second that Hamas wasn’t acting directly on the orders of Iran? If you don’t believe the concept of proxy war, you are sadly misguided.

The terrorists kill over 20 people in Baghdad and it’s reported as “sectarian violence”
1 civilian gets caught in the cross fire between terrorists and American forces and the media spins it as if our troops are killing civilians indiscriminately.
This never would have happened in WWII. The press needs a muzzle and a little dose of reality.
I say, the more daisy cutters we drop the better.

This puke of a human being is only good for giving fodder to late night comedians for jokes. The real threat to our freedom is from the Neo-facist that use the fear this puke creates grounds for eroding the constitution via the Patriot Act and starting wars and occupying contries that are no threat to us. Fear is the only weapon left to this dying administration. We can win the hearts & minds of the Arab world and stop teenagers from becoming terrorist by showing our true American spirit. Love, cherish and respect all religions. Live free or die.

-”Any man willing to trade freedom for Security deserves neither…and will lose both.” -Ben Franklin
-”Idiots who stick their heads in the sand-
Often get their butts kicked while they are not looking.” -RUFUS

AQ is operating with impunity in the tribal areas of the Pakistan Border. If the Pakistan Authorites are unwilling or unable to do anything why are we not taking military action? Since when does the US need permission from Pakistan to deal with a threat to our nation. I don’t care if it is in there borders. Diplomacy is obviously not working with Pakistan if they continue to ignore or deny the problem. We should take a Marine Battalion into the tribal areas and secure those areas by force. To heck with Pakistan.
Semper FI

Americans need not worry. Soon the Democrats will control congress and the executive branch and we will no longer have a WAR ON TERROR (but we will have a WAR ON CAPITALISM).

Liberty as earned is also easily lost.
Live Free or Die.
Bless Our Country and Its Troops.

Al Qaeda needs to understand if they attack the USA, then Iran and Pakastan will be bombed heavily by USA and allies. More “Shock and Awe” for weeks on end.
Let it be known “Osama, we are ready, we dare you to attack”.

Big Smoke, No Fire. What a bunch of losers! It’s the Keystone Cops of the Middle East.

If only our Congress would wake up and spend the time now devoted to driving Bush from office and concentrating instead on the safety of the American people.

I am looking anxiously for the day these running, half starved pathetic losers go for their eternal dirt naps. Their twisted ideology and sadistic means are unhuman. They do not pray to Allah, the extremist pray for themselves and to Bin Laden. They use Allah as a cover. Hypocritical human garbage!

Let’s see…………liberals informs our enemies of our survellience of in-coming calls originating over-seas, liberals informs our enemies of our financial tracking, liberals place shackles on some of our troops, liberals want enemies of a foreign country who are caught on a battlefield trying to spill American blood have access to our courts at tax-payers expense, liberals have been kicking and screaming about the Patriot Act, liberals stopped us from profiling possible terorists, liberals sue when anything Christian is in public, liberals insist not targeting any Mosques which may be fostering anti-American hate-speech and preparing for another attack ( like in Britain Mosques ), liberals want to send up a white flag and surrender over-seas, liberals have told our enemies the ” war is lost”………….yeah. Liberals really are committed to “win”.

To Pat | Jul 14, 2007 12:33:41 PM
Bush is terrorising the World in the meantime , hundreds of thousands have been killed, more have been maimed forever , millions are now refugiees , some live on a run because they have lost their homes , some are found in a secret flight to Diego Garcia . Bush is the biggest terrorist of the world

Tnel….
Well stated!!!
But Cater won the Nobel…..

It’s not that we believe America is always bad. It’s that we don’t believe we’re always automatically right about everything. Being good is not something that god grants you — it’s something you have to work hard at and can never take for granted.
We believe America is best when it can admit its shortcomings and learn from them. This administration represents the opposite point of view: They believe they’re always right, and that anyone who disagrees is an enemy. Rather than admitting mistakes, they continue to repeat them.
America at its best is humble and leads by example; Bush’s America is arrogant and leads by bullying. To me, that’s not very American.

We should all take a really deep breath, think about what the country was like in the 40′s and 50′s. Liberals took hold in the 60′s aided by the media. Mindless most of you are. You think your smarter, your smug and arrogant IHMO. Do a little home work for maybe 30 mins. Get on the search engines and read about the middle east.
This all got going really when the Shah of Iran was overthrown and extremist too over. President Carter caved and begged for the hostages to be returned.
A quick response with force would have changed history. But now we have let it grow and fester. It will end with a big boom. My liberal friends will only then understand I think.

Re: We are engaged in a proxy war with Iran and Syria.
Indeed we are. We wouldn’t be if we hadn’t taken the bait and unnecessarily invaded Iraq. The point of 9/11 was never to inflict a military defeat on the United States. The purpose was to sow dischord and provoke the United States into destabilizing the region. Thanks to the inept leadership in the White House, it was wildly successful.
If Iran becomes a nuclear superpower with a Shiite Iraqi client state to its south, we will have Bush to blame.

We need to let AQ continue chattering. We’ve got them dialed in on *69 and the SpecOps teams are closin’ in for the final kill. One shot, one kill! We own the night! Reach out and touch someone! It’s too bad that we can’t share the glorious details of our brave men and women as they grapple with a nuclear-armed, fanatical enemy numbering in the hundreds of millions determined to annihilate us, but that’s something for our own chatterers to write and talk about later. Onward to final victory!

It’s wrong for Ross and Schwartz to put all of this info out like this. It’s wrong, and it puts everyone in danger. The New York Times did it, they continue to do it, and Ross/Schwartz joined in. What other secrets are you going to let out? That you’re voting for Hilary in ’08? Good luck.

Eddie
You talk about Bush being a coward and getting goaded into an unneeded war, and then talk about how great JFK would have been…Hussein had the 4th largest army in the world when we invaded…Cuba not much of anything…yet Cuba almost started WWIII with battlefield nukes…the Bay of Pigs was not what I would consider great leadership.
Furthermore, as long as STATES sponsor terrorism…it is not AQ or UBL we are fighting, and they will continue attacking us. YOU may be willing to suffer attack after attack without doing anything, I pesonally don’t think that is the best course. These terrorists that you so easily discount have attacked us (let me see off the top of my head…the Millenium bomber, the subway bombers, the first, second and third attacks on the WTC, the Bojinga Plot, the Kobar Towers, The Berlin Nightclub, the USS Cole, the Shoe Bomber, The Dirty Bomber, Pan AM Flight over Lockerbie Scotland, The African Embassies, The Beirut Barracks, the New Jersey base bombers, the London bombers…twice) No…I don’t think they are just gonna go away…get your head out of the sand.
John

But now we have let it grow and fester. It will end with a big boom. My liberal friends will only then understand I think.
Posted by: mark | Jul 14, 2007 4:00:02 PM
Which friends would that be? The ones who prefer to question authority and the “party line?” This is much more complex that GOOD vs. EVIL, Black vs. White.

after some elaborate decoding, the translation of the message is:
“After 6 years in a cave I really would like a donut. I also would like a new blade to shave my beard. I am looking forward to Homer Simpson’s new movie. When will Michael Moore give us finally credit for 9/11?. Can you release our medics-from-hell you are holding in England. OBL needs them. Please tell Paris my son is also looking for a 2nd wife. He is just a little bit more picky than UBL’s son who just married a fossil with 5 ex-husbands in her closet. Next time we will really beat India’s cricket team. Can I order a pepperoni-with-cheese pizza?”

freedom is not free.

Was it really necessary to reveal to AQ that our intel agencies know about the means of transmission? Is there any common sense left in our media or do they simply not give a damn?
We really need some prosecutions to stop this.

80% of the Iraqi people plus now the president of Iraq want us out of their country.
If we believe in democracy, then why don’t we listen to the will of the Iraqi people and their president and leave??
Do those that continue to support what even Donald Trump has called a “disaster” of a war in Iraq really believe in democracy??
William F. Buckley (the hard-right conservative godfather) said over a year ago we had lost in Iraq and should leave. There has been no evidence to the contrary since then. In fact, he looks like he could not have been more correct.

People want to blame the other for what has happened and what will happen. We were attacked on 9-11 because UBL is a nutcase and he has no regard for human life. Not because Tenet knew, not because the president did or didn’t do something right…just because UBL is murdering idiot. Why blame everyone else for the failures…locks only keep honest people out, increased security serves to dissuade would-be morons, not the real hardcore melon-heads that are hell-bent on blowing themselves up.

John: Thank you for attempting an intelligent dialogue rather than sinking into the name-calling that’s poisoning the discourse in this blog — and this nation. I think the operative word in your point about JFK was “almost.” Of course, none of us knows how JFK or FDR might have responded to 9/11. But these were careful, thoughtful men, and our current president is not.
My argument was never that we should ignore terrorism. However, out of the large menu of strategies to deal with terrorism, “attack Iraq” was a poor choice. This is not 20-20 hindsight on my part; I’ve been saying this for five years. The sad fact is, you can’t deal with terrorism in a military way. Doesn’t work in Israel, didn’t work in Britain and it won’t work in Iraq. As long as some depraved zealot can mix up a batch of explosives and smuggle it into public places, there will be terrorism.

I think if Google Earth can hone into your house, then why are we still seeing videotape of the AQ training camps? Can we just not send a Metallic Message to them that we do not approve of their public displays of affection toward the U.S.? If Bin Laden thinks that he is going to end up in Paradise, in his after-life, he had better think twice. Ok, Hillary, if, and only if you were elected as Commander in Chief, what is in your Crystal Ball for Bin Laden?

I would be very wary everyone. Bush is setting you Americans up, to get involved in a much bigger conflict. Consider this, that Bush _wants_ an escalation to conflict, because the economy is going sour fast (check gold prices ppl – check last time that happened).
Bush and friends will create a bigger event than they did for 9/11. And you all will be sucked into the vortex of hatred for Asia. By then.. it will all be too late to stop the massive scale war. You are all primed to jump on board because you are focussing on the wrong things, so when it comes you will react emotionally, and not logically (ala 9/11). Beware American people.. its too late to stop it, but its not too late to reduce its impacts.

Hurry bush here is your chance to get the us into another war. It will boost your ego so think about the kids that will die and think about their family’s you cant lose. You and slick Dick can become famous the only president to start this many wars bushy the pushy god i cant wait for you be out of office perhaps we will get a real president next time

I saw a green Jeep Cherokee the other day in front of me at a red light… it had two bumper stickers on it… on the left was a ‘W04′ sticker and on the right was one that said ‘Failure is not an option’… I think the poor woman driving it was wondering why my wife and I were laughing so hysterically and pointing. And I’m certain that she was wondering why I was taking a picture of it (I personally didn’t think anyone would believe me when I told them about it)

enough of this crap already. Get a life stop worrying all ok

I agree with john irish…and I do have a life i have 10 grandchildren and its they’re future that i worry about..I think we all want answers to why can’t our goverment can’t get it togeather to help us What are they going to do to protect us and our children..and grandchildren..And God forbid we do get hit again what will happen to all of us then.. will we be left to deal with the aftermath ourselfs..Should we stock up on supply’s seal our house with duct tape and plastic…Our goverment on both sides has left a lot of people with a whole lot of questions that they will not answer and why…I’m only a poor lady that lives in the far south my life is my children and grandchildren but I want them to have a life

It is astounding that politics cannot be separated from demonstrated will. 20 years ago factions of extreme Islam were telling us exactly the same thing they are telling us today. Tecnoigy is catching up with the desire and commitment of these men, and the will and patience of these men has been demonstrated time and again. These postings I have read are that of fools that cannot see the ground beyond there noses. All politics aside, fear for votes and the total dismissal of a very real and dangerous faction of men, the foolish disregard will be a shame for many one day.
Can we all sat BAAAA together. Such sheep.

Twenty years from now, after our third nuke in the middle east, Children will be asking……” Daddy? What was a Muslim?

Bush got on TV in 2002 and talked about the Amber alert what is the difference in losing a child to that war when a lot of our children joined the military to help with college and what happened to the Nat. guard manning the borders. From a family member of a fallen soilder!!!