Bush E-Mail Mystery Deepens: White House Won’t Name Tech Contractor

are we really surprised??? no email, no paper trail…..
do people actually think the white house would allow any entity, other than itself or these private contractors that they refuse to name, to have prying eyes look into the illegality of some of the emails and who sent them to whom, etc….
I think not!

Oh, okay then. Sorry to have bothered you Mister President Sir.

As someone who worked in the tech industry for many years, the idea that millions of offical government emails would somehow be “lost forever” is ridiculous. No amount of gross incompetence can explain the meticulous, deliberate, and repeated steps needed to erase data which is copied or “mirrored” in real time onto multiple servers located in different geographic locations. Archived files are further protected by off-site and offline storage separate again from all of the above. The odds of all these databases being “accidentally erased” are less than zero by multiple decimal points.

Unbelievable but not a surprise! This republican administration has to be one of the most corrupt in history.

Even Nixon was more honest and had more class than Bush.

The White House is full of crooks, liars, and thieves and Congress and the Senate are full of cowards and collaborators. Terrorism isn’t a tiny fraction of the threat to this country that Bush, Cheney, Rove and the Republican AND Democratic leaderships are. Our rights are stolen from us in the name of “protecting” us. Our money, our childrens money, and our grandchildrens money are diverted into the pockets of a select few who grease the palms of our elected leadership. We need to start at the top with Bush, Cheney, and company – remove them from office, try and convict them of the treason they’ve commited on the American people. From there we need to go straight down the lines of the Republican and Democrat leaderships and through the “big business” crooks they’ve sold us out to. Try, convict, and execute the lot of them – after taking what they’ve stolen and returning it to the people.
Seriously.

Not surpising since The State of Texas mysteriously (read conviently) lost his driving records when he was getting ready to run for pres.
Frankly, if you can’t produce your driving record and pass a credit check, you shouldn’t be able to run for president…or Congress. Wouldn’t it be better to make all candidates be tested of IQ? We wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in if people had seen behind the good ól boy facáde and knew up front he was a dunce before we elected him?

The Bush Administration is the largest, most criminal tragedy to ever happen in U.S. Government. Problem is, do we have any Patriots left smart enough to out smart them and put them in Jail where they all belong??? I highly doubt it based on the dog and pony shows we have been subject to so far.
Impeach and Imprison. Uphold the laws of this country.

Bush-is-guilty– let’s hope so!!! I think we need a special investagation!

Secrecy is used to mask guilt. Now consider how much secrecy has been employed by this administration.

They won’t give the name because then Congress could ask the company what happened and the company would either have to lie or say “we just did what the White House told us to do.”

As someone who worked for years on data networks with 99.999% reliability, the White House assertion of “accidental” loss of millions of emails is ridiculous. Such data is invariably mirrored not only on distinct servers in real time (located in different geographic locations) but is also archived offline in data vaults impervious to anything short of direct nuclear impact. No amount of gross incompetence can explain the many deliberate, meticulous, and repeated steps needed to destroy such data. The odds of this occuring by chance are less than zero by multiple decimal points.

Everything is shrouded in secrecy with this administration. When challenged, they invoke executive privilege trampling all over the constitution. Why so much secrecy if nothing illegal was done ? What is this about Bush’s campaign to bring democracy to other nations while at home he’s governing like Stalin. But this is from a holier than thou party of hypocrites ala Craig, Vitter, etc, etc.

how crazy is this, yet another instance of this “regime” doing whatever they want with no checks and balances, i mean shame on every last person who voted for this entity in the last two elections, this is your fault and for the rest of us and the world it just really sucks!

This is the natural progression from “dog ate my homework”

just more evil monkey business by the sleezy slimeballs. Why are we surprised?

the only reason snow and rove have quit is so they can take their evil monkey business into the democratic presidential campaign.

GWB sounds more like Richard Nixon every single day. But unlike Nixon, the Presidential Records Act is now in place and this issue will not go away like the missing minutes from tricky dick’s recordings.
Guess GWB doesn’t need a presidential library after all!

Folks, this is your government; your democracy. Please don’t give me any more of your bull$$#t about this being the most free and open society in the world. This administration is getting away with crimes that will one day looked back upon with awe. Just as today’s Germans look back upon Nazi Germany and wonder how it could have possibly happened. Wake up, people. Wake up!

If you Liberals (ABC TOO) spent as much time and effort going after terroris,(the very people that want a non muslums whiped off the face of the earth). we would would be better off. you seem to think these people are our enemy. Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif. A (D) from California, Imagine that
Truly the best generation that ever lived is fading off…….

I doubt anything is going to hit the fan. This Administration is so corrupt they’ve taken steps to cover their trail since taking over the White House. Gawd this is sickening.

this appears to be another case of the white knowing what we as americans need to know and what we need to see for ourselves. mr bush and his pals think we are all too stupid to really undertsand all this and therfore should not ever see this information. mr rove decided what i should or should not see. mr snow tells me what i should or should not hear and we go blissfully down the road to complete and utter disstruction.so much for open and transparent governemnt lets see this would more likely look like closed and clouded government. we can’t get out of this war because mr bush believes it is not time and we can’t stop spending money o this war because mr bush says so and we can stop the war machine becaue mr chaney says so and we should support our troupes and keep them fighting in the streets to regain again and again the same positions, because it is anti american to do otherwise. ok i get it. Thanks

Bush Jr. says “I am not a crook!”

If Democrats don’t do anything about this or any of the other dishonest things that this administration has done for the past 6+ years, then the American people might decide to make a change on Capitol Hill in 08!!!

Remember Animal House when the crew destroyed Flounder’s brother’s car?
“We’ll just say we parked it around back, came out, and BAM, it was gone!”
“Will that work?”
“It’s better than the truth!”

It is stunning that something that could dwaft Watergate is taking so long to get traction in the press. Are we so numb that we cannot even muster outrage at what is clearly obstruction of justice?

The GOA would have the contract information.
Any check signed for payment:
Hard copy.
Betcha it’s Rove’s old company -
Check those servers down in
PLANO, TEXAS
And – did anyone take Rove’s top secret clearance badge?
I say he’s sittin’ pretty – he’s got that “whole world” in his hands…..digitally.

Yet more of that sociopath stench.

Think the contractor might be Inforeliance. Found resume of someone who helped with Sharepoint setup in White House. Anyone know current email setup there?

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Once again, in a now familiar pattern, the current WORST-PRESIDENT-EVER has sunk lower than the former worst-president-ever. TrickyDick’s taping system and his 18 1/2-minute gap pales in comparison to the millions of potentially incriminating deleted e-mails. Like TrickDick, DickNBush are just stonewalling and covering up.
The Congress should know what to do. The high crimes and misdemeanors of DickNBush are essentially identical to those of Tricky. The Articles of Impeachment and transcript of TrickyDick’s impeachment hearings are readily available. It now just a simple matter of following the script.
I suggest appointing Russ Feingold as the lead Senator in the BushCheney impeachment proceedings and having him work with Nancy Pelosi and John Conyers to draft the Articles of Impeachment. There is no time to waste. PELOSI/CONGRESS: STOP STALLING AND DO YOUR JOB. Carpe Diem!
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I work in IT and know a little something about how data retention is supposed to work.
Rule number 1: Always take a back-up of whatever file(s) you are modifying before each and every modification.
Rule number 2: Never violate rule number 1.
Somebody has obviously ordered the destruction of these records and the destruction of the back-ups. No CIO could keep their job under such a circumstance, even if so ordered. They should resign rather than clicking their heels then violate the very ethical foundation IT resides on.

The Watergate burglary and cover-up by TrickyDick pales in comparison to the high crimes and misdemeanors of DickNBush. Yet, because of Pelosi and the Congress, these criminals are not being held accountable for violating the Constitution and oath to uphold the law.
EIGHTY (80) US towns and cities now have resolutions calling for the impeachment of the DickNBush criminals. Pelosi provides the lame excuse that the Dems are focusing on ending the senseless neocon wars and can’t handle impeachment as well – in other words, Congressional Democrats can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. Impeachment proceeding must begin in the House. House Resolution 333 defines the articles of impeachment for Cheney – the necessary first step. Somebody with a backbone needs to proceed on that. Once the House does its Constitutionally mandated job, Sen Feingold and other patriots will carry the ball in the Senate. Let the Repugs in Congress defend the indefensible high crimes and misdemeanors of DickNBush – the American people need to know exactly who these co-conspirators and accomplices are before the 2008 election.
CONGRESS/PELOSI: STOP STALLING AND DO YOUR JOB!

This entire administration adn their cronies are absoutely pure evil. Sick, perverted, evil! Book’em Dano!

hmm…convenient that these records disappear when having them just might incriminate those in office. But since when can we really expect anything but blatant disregard for legalities in politics? Not legal and wanna do it? Tell everyone lies, get elected, and change the laws to suit yourself. God, What has America come to?

Hmmm. Maybe the adminstration doesn’t want to supply bait to a democrat fishing expedition? I wouldn’t provide Henry Waxman with the time of day. I’m just saying…….

Could be inforeliance. They have contracts with almost every military and civilian government office.

These Christians in the White House are liars.

It’s a subsidiary of Halliburton.

It’s not like Bush is hiding criminal behavior or anything.

This ain’t rocket science folks…
all we need is one of those emails to trace the path contained in the header’s routing info.
Once we have the originating IP address, we can then look up who “owns” that IP address and track down the “secret” email “disappearers”.
Didn’t someone like Greg Palast receive one or two of those emails accidentally?

I agree w/ the person above about the idea that these e-mails are “lost forever”. That’s absurd. You see, Mr. President, unlike you, I actually read things. The American people (well, 50% of us anyway) are NOT as stupid as you wish we were (and I worked in the tech industry as well).
As far as I’m concerned, these people, and all the way to the top for ignorance of the law is NO excuse, have some nerve calling themselves Americans, for they do not behave as Americans. They do not behave like people who believe in our system of government; they have their own set of rules and go by them. If you ask me, they are behaving like not-very-bright criminals, and ought to be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE! Impeach and prosecute this criminal!!!

All of the IT professionals are absolutely correct. There is NO WAY these emails were lost. And if they were, which they most definitely were not, but if, then the company officers who allowed this to happen should be facing a judge for violating the Presidential Records Act. Simple as that.
The company that retains this correspondence is employed by the citizens of the United States. We have every right to know who they are. Let’s say they WERE dumb enough to ‘lose’ 5 million emails, don’t all of us and all businesspeople have a right to know what screw-ups they are so they don’t get hired again?
Please…this is so patently a cover-up is annoying to even read that anyone thinks it’s anything else. If you believe this nonsense, don’t vote in 2008.

I am also in IT, and I agree with the many other experienced posters here. I worked for a contractor with USDA. This stuff is put on tape and vaulted, often in unused converted missile silos. Now the tape for a particular day might turn out to be bad, but “millions” of emails over what is presumably a substantial period of time simply cannot be “lost”. This is a bald-faced lie.
I am continuously amused by the posters who somehow feel bringing up the Clinton administration is some kind of rationalization. What does what happened during the Clinton admin have to do with anything? It’s like, hey everybody, look over there! A bright shiny object! Please – some of us are not that stupid.

This was not an accident, as those that have been paying attention are aware. Most politicans are dishonest crooks, but few hold a candle to those that are in the White House now.
Since they are quilty of lying this country into war (and making a bundle of cash for themselves and their friends in the process)- of course they are going to do whatever it takes to keep the truth hidden.
It still saddens to see so many misguided fools are still letting themselves be used as NeoCon tools – whipped up into an ignorant frenzy. It is going to be hard on them when they are forced to face reality.

Can anyone say…the Augean Stables?
If you don’t know mythology, this was the 5th Labor of Hercules. The Augean Stables were so full of s***, that Hercules had to divert a river to clean them out thoroughly.
I know the Potomac’s pretty polluted but maybe we could use it on Washington?

Looking at this being a European, this comes as no suprise. Its just the Bush administration covering their collective asses again. It there was nothing to hide, they wouldn’t be taking this action would they!!! The even worse part is that the world is seeing them get away with it because the other idiot coward opposition/politicians are playing political games to actually to do anything effective to reverse these ever growing situations. Only in America… Welcome to the new world of Bush tactics… Do want you want and get away with it. Welcome to America.

It must be frustrating to have this
left-labeled idiot screw you losers
for about the 50th time. You all are just ticked because “you had him this time.” Guess not.

Why is this a big deal? There’s people out raping our children and daughters, killing our kids and friends, robbing our stores and homes and you’re all worried about email? It’s probably all trash email like the rest of us get all day. Big deal.

The lying cheating warmongering Republicans tried to impeach Clinton for making whoopie with another woman. Yet this administration has caused Thousands of deaths, Put this country so far in the hole financially we will never get out, has proven to be the worlds biggest liar, and yet he is still in office. He should have been impeached years ago. He should be tried for war crimes, Crimes against the Americian military, Crimes against the United Nation, you name it. He should be impeached, charged, tried, and beheaded or whatever they do to people like him. He is a disgrace to our nation, and to the soverign state of Texas. Everyone else has to pay for
thier criminal acts. Why shouldn’t he?

“We are reviewing Rep. Waxman’s letter and will respond expeditiously,” Stanzel said in an e-mailed statement.
Did it self-destruct after five seconds?

GUY ABOVE U R ABSOLUTLY CURRECT THERE —but— u forget about the real threat, THE TURRISTS THER COMIN TO GETCHA

If they hired a contractor the is a signature sworn statement that no one is allowed to see or speak up on the companies informaiton that is private policy rules as signed when the contract is negotated with most high tech companies I know that from expereince or if you open up give confidentail information then you get sure if you a techncial recruiters can sure the other parties??

Nixon was impeached for something so much less than this.
This is just about as smoking gun as you can get to proceed with impeachment and get subpoenas going NOW! With subpoenas we can grab and protect all the evidence and then hopefully see all these political criminals tried for treason.

The people are getting what they voted for…it’s a sad day and has been since Nov. 2000. Emails are missing, gee, how can that happen? Will there be any accountability? Not in my life time! New Orleans still sinks……Iraqi’s still die……our mothers’ are still burying their son’s and daughters. Until the sheep of this country stop watching Fox News and start paying attention to the real world will this ever change. This will continue on untill the sheep wake up……don’t hold much hope for that.

“Let them eat cake!!!” Ah ha ha ha ha!

Well as smart as the democratic congress is. They sure haven’t done much to stop that damn Bush. If those democrats get any smarter they will help elect another Republican in the White House and get ousted as Majority in House and Senate. Wouldn’t that be a bitch!!!

To the guy who asked if the Whitehouse could lose your state did you hear about New Orleans?

it shows how stupid some people were.. why dont they use icq ;-) to talk about secret stuff.

Impeachment should ALWAYS be on the table…it’s the only threat that over-zealous and corrupt administrations fear. You don’t expect these guys to have any qualms about breaking the law if the laws have no teeth, do you? Write your Congressional Reps and demand action. Bush/Cheney should be fairly tried and then summarily locked up for the rest of their lives.

You cannot, I repeat, you cannot loose data of the hard-drive by deleting, only if the hard drive is physically destroyed. Maybe they should ask Homeland Security, I have read they have some amazing tools for retrieving all data deleted or trashed of hard drives.

P.S. Not to mention voter fraud which put the thug Bush in the White House twice.

“Not in a thousand year could we lose a war ” Abe
iraq
vietnam
korea
Lost
look for you enemies among your selves
look for the judas escariot
we may expound not me not I not we
You have become death destroyer of worlds they had broken your economy into a 1000 pieces they have your armed forces broken and demoralized soon it wont be able to fight from exhasution
and then your enemies will strike you
your enemy is unseen he waits and watches if your constitution is not taken away they will force it from you with a designer war tailored made to do the job
you borrow money from china to give to Israel and those that control you want the NWO NAU and they will break you if need be to get it
your nemesis is you

Rudy Giuliani also made all his administrative records disappear after he stepped down as mayor: claimed he was having them all archived privately by some outside vendor.

Come on Guys . . . whatever happens in Washington it’s the voting process that’s flawed.
We choose not to change it because it depends on who’s in office. How can a President sign a law one day and ignore it the next? Never mind about whether it’s constitutional or violates our civi rights; it’s okay if we like him, it’s not okay if we don’t.
We need to look into how we want each branch of our government to function so that one individual or party cannot manipulate it.
The fault dear Americans is not in our (S)tars (Britney, Paris, Clinton, or Bush), but in ourselves!

I think I know where we are going to get the people to volunteer to guard our new FEMA concentration camps after martial law is declared here in the next 60 days or so…

Considering how rabidly the republicans went after Clinton for lying about a sexual encounter (and no, I don’t approve of what he did), I am really dismayed at the lack of reproach for an administration that has continually lied about virtually EVERYTHING they have done.
At least Clinton’s lies didn’t cost the lives of thousands of our brave men and women – not to even mention the lives of hundreds of thousands Iraqis.
If a lie about a sexual encouter was on the table as grounds for impeachment, then why in the world aren’t the deadly lies from this administration grounds not only for impeachment, but for prosecuting them with treason?
The administration demands that ISP’s hold all our email so that it can be examined for criminal activity. The ‘loss’ of the administration’s emails is just one more example of their ‘do as we say, not as we do’ attitude.
After all, only the working class people are supposed to obey the law – not the ones making the laws (at least in the minds of the criminals that are occupying the White House).

It should be fairly straightforward and relatively easy to find out what company did it, whether the White House “names” it or not, so this is as much an excuse on the part of Congress as it is a dodge on the part of obviously scurrying criminals.

Excuse me? The White House refuses to name the firm processing its mail?
We have already learned that Rove and others were using these non-governmental email accounts for their regular White House work.
They may very well have been discussing classified matters on any number of occasions.
(See where I’m going with this, folks?)
Has the White House or anybody been able to certify that either this unnamed company has a sufficient security clearance to ‘audit and process’ these emails?
Has classified information been transmitted via email through this insecure server provider?
If the emails have been ‘lost’, is it not also possible they fell into the hands of foreign agents? Is this not a threat to national security? These seem to be questions Congress should be asking.
Oh, right, silly me. These are Republicans. Rules don’t apply to them, unless they get caught soliciting a blowjob in an airport bathroom. Then it’s KA-WHAMMO!
Yeesh.

Read Rani Above folks, how does it go missing?
“As someone who worked in the tech industry for many years, the idea that millions of offical government emails would somehow be “lost forever” is ridiculous. No amount of gross incompetence can explain the meticulous, deliberate, and repeated steps needed to erase data which is copied or “mirrored” in real time onto multiple servers located in different geographic locations. Archived files are further protected by off-site and offline storage separate again from all of the above. The odds of all these databases being “accidentally erased” are less than zero by multiple decimal points.”
Those e-mails are probably still recoverable.

Ever wonder WHY all this is happening?
Let’s look at the origins. The White House is presently run by NeoConservatives. What is a NeoConservative? The NeoConservatives were a group of Russian Jewish social theorists from the late 1800s-early 1900′s who were big big fans of people like Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky and Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin). During Woodrow Wilson’s presidency they were very influential, and thats why the term “Wilsonian Interventionist” came about as Wilson believed the USA should extend its military power out as much as possible. Now lets skip over to the Soviet Union, that militaristic, paranoid communist state. You see the Soviets were pretty much the same as NeoConservatives, having the very same origins. Fast forward to the Reagan Revolution where NeoConservatives began to take power over old guard Goldwater conservatives, and now you see why all this is happening.
Its a shocking revelation once you understand it, but the NeoConservatives want to CHANGE the USA into a Soviet-style paranoid communist state!
The red scare is real folks. We will be the USSA in a few years if we’re not careful.

Bush put the lid on his father’s White House papers, and he is not above giving the o.k. to destroy or ‘lose’ any incriminating emails. And, of course, the contractor would be in the “Haliburton” league of contractors to achive the emails, wouldn’t it?

This administration is responsible for 9/11. They planned it. They perpetrated it. The more information that is allowed to become visible will reveal this fact. They are being secretive because they are criminals of the highest order. They are on the same level of the Third Reich. To think that they will ever be honest about the activities they have engaged in is sheer lunacy.

Gee, how many replies to this story and only one, Steve Savage (Sep 1, 2007 12:44:38 PM), mentions that it will definitely turn out to be an Israeli company??
Americans are more ill-informed than I thought.

Why is this listed as a “mystery”? Isn’t this a blatant attempt at a coverup!? This is yet another piece in a growing pattern of lies and avoidance, one which looked bad when it was just Iraq and Katrina, but which is now growing to encompass the entire Bush Administration.
How can the White House have even made such a contract without it being a public record? How can the Congress, even a Republican Congress, let something like this pass for 6 years?
What other “outsourcing” has the White House done that nobody knows about?!
This is moving from the ridiculous to the outrageous, and I would hope the media start to take this seriously…!

Have you heard that on Labor day, Our Govt is allowing Trucks from Mexico to enter the US. How will American Truckers make a living?
Opps forgot, their plan is to eliminate the middle class. And truckers are middle class workers.
Bush and his Controller Cronies have a saying,
Rape and Pillage, then bayonet the survivors. Its working.

Ask Jack Abramoff the name, wasn’t it Amdocs or something like that?

Remember people National Security. That’s all they say and they get away with it. 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
It’s always their way out. And if we get too close they’ll do it again

Folks, self rightous snits, gnashing of teeth and plain old whining is not soving the problem. After nearly 7 years of this stuff it is painfully clear that it is YOU that are the problem, yes YOU!
It’s not enough that YOU kept this administration in power, that YOU refuse to remove the Waxmans, the Pelosis’, the Reids who are now enabling the traitorous .
Am I ranting, foaming, spouting hyperbole? Not really…take a look at the voter turnout numbers since 2000…THEN point answer the question as to who is at fault!
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Didereaux, as one of those self-righteous snits posting outrage at the latest outrage, I’ll say only this. If you want to make more of an impact name-calling, then spell the particular invective correctly.

Some disgruntled ex-employee, ex-wife, estranged lover or child will likely come forward with the company’s name. Often the truth emerges from the most unlikely sources or events. Plumbers at Watergate, a bathroom sting operation, etc.
Maybe some angry citizen could offer a reward and Dog the Bounty Hunter could track it down.

What we have as American’s before us is the generation of the Vietnam war! Remember the groups calling for a “communist” victory in Naim? Well Clinton and his backers in the Demo party “headed” such groups! The communists KGB admited that they were “very much” involved in the (so-called) peace movement! (Which called for a communist victory in Naim)! The media of course never questioned that they were just normal patriotic Americans! Even tho they also carried the “communist” flag! And “many” were not even Americans, but students from many European countrys! However the “media” did not even bother with telling the American people! Well they never lost their dream of a “fantasy” world! Even after hearing how communism was in the USSR! Jimmy Carter as you may know assisted the the radical Islamist in their take-over in Iran! He also handed over the Panama Canal,were there are now “communist” Chinese maning the former USA military bases! 50 to 100 thousand. Where we now see the “result” of! (Do they take responsibility for it??) Think! How many liberals can you think of that EVER take responsiblity for “anything” they do? But blame “others” for their failures. And “expect” others to pay for what they do! Mr.Clinton gave the Long Beach base in Ca to Communist China were thousands of Chinese ships come each mth! Just a few mths before they had caught a ship with more than 8000 AK47s on board!( A very lucky find I must say.) In Clintons second run to be president the Chinese communist “funneled” money thru dumby corp. Setup by a branch of the “Red army”. Clintons response to terrorist killing “Americans” was to bomb an asprine factory in Africa! Killing many innocent people and not ONE TERRORIST! But the Europeans “loved” and Loves” Clinton. Because he used Americas military at “their behest” in Yugoslavia! Our pay off by the Islamics “after saving their lives”. Was to carry a war to our shores! By the way we had Islamic friends in Ca (nice people) but they could not understand why I objected to communism! So you see there is a close relation between Islam and communism. One being of course both are “totalitarian”! Look for the link of a world wide cooperation by leftist and Islamics to control the world!(I am sure many of the posters here are from “many” countrys and party to, of which I am speaking of!)

Let me say what has been said already – How *@#%ing convenient.
Also, if we the American people do not hold the S.O.B.’s accountable, we only have ourselves to blame. Many of the main players in this administration were responsible for major problems in past administrations. Heck, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld have caused havoc in Washington going all the way back to the Ford administration. When will we learn from our past? This is not a partisan issue. This is an issue about the ability of power to corrupt, and this administration is the perfect example of that.

WAKE UP AMERICA!

I’m eager to see how quickly Dubya goes running off to his recently acquired hideout in Paraquay like a scuttling packrat after he leaves the white house..

I think ALL the LIARS that said Bush lied about WMD should be investigated as to their mental state! Girl boys,and boy girls! (Nothing wrong with that!)Originators of perception,deception, thinking repeating LIES will change REALITY! No! The seeds you sow you will reap! Count on it!

That was May, this is September. Waxman should have given them 4 days, not 4 months to hand the info over or face the consequences. These dems are just bloviating. They talk big but they never back up their words with actions. When will someone have the guts to begin impeachment proceedings on these tyrants?

Remember Hillary and the FBI addresses and files that her man took and no one ever explained what she did with them. This stuff goes on all of the time. So grow up and get wise.

This is very unfortunate, but necessary for prophecy to be fulfilled. Get this book, 2008 God`s Final Witness, by Ronald Weinland.

Such a dishonest administration makes Richard Nixon look like a blabbermouth, a paragon of transparency, a St. Francis.
The most secretive and least selfless in American history. Bush needn’t worry about his legacy. That’s already laid out for him.

Jarheadmike dude… I am a marine too!!! I would like to say that your comment about not reelecting them is one of the most ignorant statements i have ever heard!!! Did you even read the article!!! Those Records are public property IE the property of the American People…. IE They are meant to be seen because the president works for us and not special interest groups like ENRON or BIG OIL or Haliburton!!! Dude… I am ashamed to hear a Fellow MARINE make such a statement. Dude did you realize that WTC 7 contained all of the files that were going to be used against ENRON in court!!! Wonder which politicians or Elected officials would have been crippled by those files….. did you also know that Pres Bush said the constitution was just a god damned piece of paper? That goes against the oath you and I and every military member took when we entered. I love the UNITED STATES but, I cant say I love hearing people responsible for the protection of its borders saying they will blindly follow orders just cause!!! Semper Fi. RON PAUL FOR PRES!!!

Were are the voices saying Bush lied about WMD?? The “LIARS” used that one for a vary long time! They may have “fooled” some by their lies! But they then “move on” to more lies to coverup their previous “lies”! Will it ever end?? No! A liar is a liar and will always be one! A man or integrity will always be one, except the “liars” will make a liar of him! (Judgeing all things from “their own” lieing heart. )SEMPER FI is for those of an “upright heart”.

This is why we need to demand the 9/11 pentagon footage.

I agree that it seems the administration is full of crooks,liars, and theives. Question, where is Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats on all of this? They promised to clean up the corruption. this was 10 months ago. Hmm. Is it just the White House that is full of crooks, liars, and theives?

Liars and fabricators always accuse others as to what “they are doing!” They are doing the will of their father! The president decieved the people saying Iraq had WMD has been their rant! However they KNOW that THEY are the LIARS and fabricators! I believe they lie so much they actually begin to believe (their lies and fabrications.) Because they support each other in them! They think hey it must be true! And even if not. We “hate” the president! So they then come-up with more wild speculation! They are a “TREASONIST” ungrateful,hatefull bunch of people! THEY ARE ENDANGERING THEIR FREEDOM AND THE REST OF US! And BLAME OTHERS FOR IT. Why because they want to WIN at ALL COST! What a pathetic bunch! Did daddy give you everything you always wanted?? Because you kept hollering so loud! You also would like to silence Americans that would disagree with you also!NO!

The democratic party is the terrorist staunchest allys.
All elected officials, regardless of how high the office, should be required to have a drug test and a background check.

“What kind of uproar would have been heard if Clinton had done this?
Posted by: Norm | Sep 7, 2007 12:52:50 PM”
It wouldn’t even have made the news!

The funny thing about time is that it can mask change so well. One of you compared this incident to more overt and violent crimes such as rape and murder, but they should not be held next to each other. In the long run, this is far worse, it’s only one in an endless string of pieces chipped off our true Democracy. Of course, no democracy is perfect, including ours, but this group in charge is doing all it can to expand govt. reduce it’s need to answer and respect questions or concern, and to tighten us slowly into a group who cannot think, live, or believe anything for ourselves.

Assuming, arguendo, that the Bush administration is the least intelligent/most devious that this country has ever known, is there anyone that believes that nobody in the Cabal has thought (and articulated) that using official email to discuss improper or illegal things was a bad idea?
C’mon. The administration is trotting this out as a red herring. When the Dems get all worked up, the info will come out, and there won’t be anything incriminating there. Then the Dems look like idiots! Brilliant play.

Does the white house just not have good IT people working there? Hire me, I’ll archive their email (and take my cut of the good ones too).

could it possibly be Kobi Alexander of Comverse???

Your illiterate president didn’t know that lost or intentionally erased electronic data can be fully recovered. He cannot hide facts and the facts that he tried to hide will be held against him as additional proofs when he will be convicted for the crimes he has done in the last 8 years all over the world.