Anti-War YouTube ‘Vet’ Admits He Is Faker
A Washington man, whose claims to have slaughtered civilians as a U.S. Army Ranger in Iraq were seen by millions on YouTube, admitted in federal court in Seattle today that he was a fake and a liar. Jesse Adam Macbeth, 23, pleaded guilty to charges he faked his war record. "He was in the Army for 40 days before he was kicked out of boot camp for being unfit," said U.S. Attorney Jeffrey C. Sullivan. "He was never in Iraq." Photos: Operation Stolen Valor Macbeth’s story of killing men and women as they left a Baghdad mosque included claims that he was a U.S. Army Ranger and had received the Purple Heart for injuries suffered in combat in Iraq. His interview was translated into Arabic and distributed in the Middle East, said the U.S. attorney. "Macbeth’s lies fueled hostility to our servicemen in Iraq and here at home," Sullivan said. THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS Photos Medals of Dishonor Blotter Accused Phony War Hero in Court Today in Texas Blotter FBI on the Lookout for Phony Heroes Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage. Federal prosecutors and investigators with the Office of the Inspector General for the Department of Veterans Affairs say they are in the midst of a crackdown on phony heroes. "The phony war hero phenomenon plagues the American landscape and tarnishes the service of thousands of veterans who have served honorable," said Douglas Carver, special agent in charge of the VA’s inspector general operation in the west. World News Video: Phony War Vets In another recent case, investigators uncovered a man who posed as a U.S. Marine Chaplain, officiating at the weddings and funerals of Marines. Reggie Lee Buddle, 59, of Puyallup, Wash., was sentenced to two years of probation in July after pleading guilty to charges he wore a Marine Captain’s uniform and insignia. Buddle, who never served in the Marines, participated in an opening ceremony of the Washington state Senate last year, delivering the opening prayer. Macbeth, the phony U.S. soldier who claimed to have committed atrocities, was sentenced to five months in jail. He told the judge today he wanted to apologize to "the real American heroes." He said he lied about his military record in order to get money and treatment from the VA hospital. Click Here to Register to Receive Blotter Alerts.
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As a member of the military, I think this loser needs to be shipped to Iraq, dumped in the middle of no where, and be left to fend for himself. What a disgrace and a pathetic excuse for an american.
Posted by: soldier101 | September 21, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
ABC is framing this as another example of the “phony war hero” phenomenon, which it isn’t. While scummy and pathetic, civilians who impersonate troops to steal the glory of the uniform at least aren’t besmirching the service. This guy faked his record so that he could sell the image of a tainted uniform. Throw the book at him.
Posted by: Elaine | September 21, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Thief and Liar who scamed the public and US government. I hope they lock him up for a long long time.
Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
progressives only ever lie about anything and they hate the troops.
Posted by: jummy | September 21, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
He faked his record so that he could sell the image of the tainted uniform *to the left.*
Posted by: Elaine | September 21, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The things that he has mentioned have certainly gone on to wide extent in Iraq but he should be given a high powered BB gun and a luminous balaclava and be sent to Iraq to get some experience that he can later truthfully relate!
Posted by: Bill Hicks | September 21, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
The hallmarks of the liberal-left.
Posted by: One_American | September 21, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
He’s as fake as GWB’s Vietnam record.
Posted by: ronnierayjenkins.com | September 21, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
SHOCKING! Truly SHOCKING!
Posted by: Robert Marley | September 21, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Why blame the left for this polyp? I’m a liberal who served in the Navy and I’m damned proud of it. People like this jerk are in it for their 15 minutes of fame. Throw them in jail permanantly. They don’t deserve the freedom earned by the blood of others.
Posted by: Gordon Betts | September 21, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
The sad thing is that people believe this garbage and when presented with the real truth, they choose not to believe it. I spent 23 years in the U.S. Armed Forces, and this “couldn’t hack it, wanna be” gets 5 months in jail, come on get real. Give him 5 months in a Iraqi jail and then see what he says about the U.S.A
Posted by: G.H. Gibault | September 21, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Bush doesn’t have a Vietnam record Ronnieray. Never claimed to.
But thanks for playing “All Bush, All the Time.” Poorly.
Posted by: lex | September 21, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
This is a serious mental condition and can and obviously did cause serious damage to our national moral and physical injury on the battle field troops. I believe something must be done to protect ourselves and service personnel from individuals to organizations such as Move on.org from spreading their untruths. Be it monetary or imprisonment penalties for the knowingly person who obviously spread lies concerning their personal life’s activities that affected the nation or the battle.
Posted by: Williamwfh | September 21, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
You must mean John Kerry’s faked Vietnam record, who should be held accountable right alongside this jerk who is personally responsible for additional deaths of our soldiers, and all for nothing more than political advantage.
Throw him away.
Posted by: Pete | September 21, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
I am sick and tired of the slams against the ‘liberal-left’. I am a liberal and damn proud of it. I am also damn proud of our military and support them 100%. My brother, my brother-in-law, and my boss are all either active or reserve soldiers. I am against our military being used in this illegal, immoral war, a war that was based on falsehood and continues being supported by falsehoods.
Why is it that when I say ‘Bring our soldiers home’ I’m suddenly anti-military?
Posted by: Sharktattoo | September 21, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
GWB claims to have served in Viet Nam? You’d think that would have come out before freaking NOW… If it were true, that is. Of course, if you’re lying, well… not so much.
Posted by: Batfink | September 21, 2007, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
dont forget about this fake as well.
Posted by: Bill Williams | September 21, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Lying isn’t a liberal-left thing- it happens to be to occur in:
(1) Hey, I didn’t molest that kid in church
(2) I was only playing “footsies with the officer
(3) There are weapons of mass destruction
(4) We will prosecute who ever leaked the name of the CIA operative
(5) Jessica who?
Anyways, hang the guy for spreading lies, impersonating a war vet and causing undue harm to every soldiers serving in Iraq.
Posted by: Al Yee | September 21, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
To ronnierayjenkins…GWB never said or implied he served in Vietnam..you are the reason the liberal lefties are going to pay a heavy price next election, we, the silent majority, are fed up with left wing liberal crybabies who throw empty accusations at anyone who opposes their twisted political philosophy. Like the subject of this article, you are a coward..and deserve to have your wimpy butt kicked (preferably by a Marine Drill Instructor).
Posted by: Mike West Palm Beach | September 21, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Life was never quite the same after the movie “Wag The Dog”.
Posted by: Doug | September 21, 2007, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
“He said he lied about his military record in order to get money and treatment from the VA hospital”.
He shamed himself and casts a shadow over real Iraq vets and soldiers in the theater now and placed them in harms way even more. He is dispicable and deserves more than 5 months in prison. And the pathetic part is that as a criminal, he’ll get the FREE medical treatment that you and I get to pay for, along with his meals.
Vietnam/Kosovo/Bosnia-Herzegovina/Somalia/Iraq VET
Posted by: MLS | September 21, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Liberals lie to smear America? I can’t believe it.
Posted by: al frankenstein | September 21, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
So what? Bush is a fake Vet too! He uses his daddy’s connection to jump to the head of the line for flight training for the Tx ANG…with ZERO hours of flight time. He promises to serve 6 years for the rare privilege, questionably serves only TWO, then TOTALLY disappears and SOMEHOW gets an honorable discharge. And this is the guy you Army morons “HooAhhh” for….some “vet”.
Posted by: Maximeliano | September 21, 2007, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
“Why is it that when I say ‘Bring our soldiers home’ I’m suddenly anti-military?”
Because the military has a job to do, one that they all volunteered to do. For YOU to presume to demand to bring them home instead of having them actually do that job, is no kind of support.
You have the notion that they are children that need your protection. They aren’t and they don’t; and I say that as one of them. You owe them the respect they’ve earned, not your patronizing, insulting ‘protection’.
If you are anti the military’s mission, you are anti-military, case closed, end of discussion, and regardless of who’s in your family.
Posted by: Batfink | September 21, 2007, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Turn off the CNN left winged crap. Figure out that you are being brainwashed…
Posted by: M Barclay | September 21, 2007, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Fortunately, this is America. And as Americans, we have EVERY RIGHT TO QUESTION THE CIVILIAN LEADERS WHO ABUSE THE MILITARY THROUGH THEIR INCOMPETENCE. Like the NeoCons and Bush Jr. who manipulated and tweaked this whole thing and ignored all the SMART generals…and now have completely screwed the pooch. How dare you question my patriotism…maybe you need to read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution again. They were WRITTEN by people who questioned – and didn’t blindly follow – authority.
Posted by: wilder5121 | September 21, 2007, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Hereby second Batfink’s post. Over the years I’ve encountered a variety of wannbe war heroes from all walks of life. They are usually discoverable by myself and other vets within a few minutes of conversation – but unfortunately often not by a more general audience. As a former door gunner with the Marines in Nam, I am highly offended by any twerp who claims to be something they’re not.
Posted by: Gyrene Ed | September 21, 2007, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
To those of you who are ignorant of the facts, or are just plain left-wing progressive liars: GWB was in the National Guard and did not serve in Vietnam. To say he was a “fake Vietnam vet” is just plain stupid. Maybe you have mistaken him for Sen. Kerry. Three bactine treated scratches, three Purple Hearts and four short month on active duty in Nam. Now there’s a fake!
Posted by: dewey58 | September 21, 2007, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Trust your gut if you feel it’s a nut.
There are so many of these guys out there, if in doubt check ‘em out.
Posted by: lalonartist | September 21, 2007, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
“And as Americans, we have EVERY RIGHT TO QUESTION THE CIVILIAN LEADERS”
Nobody’s saying you don’t. But joining a debate isn’t risk-free to one’s reputation, and shouldn’t be. You can say whatever you want about our leadership. But others have every right to conclude that you’re dishonest, just plain wrong, completely ignorant, crazy, possesed of the life experience of a 6 year old, willfully morally obtuse, an America-hater, or all of the above. We also have every right to take you for a complete idiot if you sound like one.
If you can’t live with that, my advice would be to keep your opinions to yourself. Refuse, and you’ll likely be hearing the opinions of lots of other people as entitled to theirs as you are to yours. And guess what: they might just make a much more convincing case than you do.
Posted by: Batfink | September 21, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Yes The “Faker” played it up well and the Seattle Left Wingers treated him like a hero. Turns out to be the usual Left Wing Dem Tactic…. Tell a lie eough & some poor slob believes it! Did noy work out this time for the Seattle Left Wing Democrats. If so many folks want out of Iraq (as the Left Dems claim) Why do they keep loosing in the Senate?
Posted by: islandeagle | September 21, 2007, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Maybe this one can “serve” in the next twisted production by Oliver Stone. I understand that Michael Moore is always on the lookout for immoral, unprincipled morons, as well.
Posted by: Ron Huegel | September 21, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Setting the record straight:
I am a Democrat, but I am a moderate and not a liberal so I think that allows me to see things more clearly. On the supposed illegal and immoral war in Iraq lets\’s pause a moment and look back in history. We went into Iraq in 1991 to force them to withdraw from Kuwait. The agreements made which ended the conflict required that Iraq conduct itself in certain ways. Iraq agreed but began violating the agreement as soon as the bulk of our forces left. They refused to cooperate with the UN inspectors, they refused to obey UN resolutions and they continuously fired on our aircraft that was enforcing the no fly zones. Clinton was president during this time and he ordered bombing on several different occasions to try and force Iran to comply. The UN inspectors were convinced and they convinced several world leaders that Iraq was continuing the weapons of mass destruction program the had in place prior to the first gulf was. President Clinton was convinced that these programs were still in effect and stated this in more than one speech he gave. President Clinton would have invaded Iraq just as President Bush did had he been President when the Islamists attacked us on Sept 11. The people who claim Bush lied and people died would not be saying this about President Clinton had it happened on his watch. The ultra liberal left has done irrepairable damage to this country abroad by all the lies that they have generated. They lay it at the feet of the current president because they hate him so and their hatred is destroying us all. I hate President bush, I wish he had never been elected but I shudder to think what America would be like if either Al Gore or John Kerrey had been elected in his place, and I absolutely refuse to disgrace America by complaining about the President of the United States to any foreign audience or to publically make condemning statements that are picked up by a liberal media and broadcast to the world which bring shame and condemnation on our country and ultimately onto ourselves.
Posted by: Don Holland | September 21, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
What is he trying to do beat John Kerry at it? All he has to do is be a traitor like Kerry and of course a liberal.
Posted by: Dennis Rick | September 21, 2007, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Well said, Ron! I agree with everything you said, with the exception of hating President Bush. I feel he has acted in the best interests of the citizens of the U.S. on Iraq, but has utterly failed us on our borders. He is selling us out on the immigration crisis.
As for this Macbeth yoyo, it’s a shame the military did away with the firing squad!
Posted by: TB Baxter | September 21, 2007, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Sharktattoo: Right there with you brother. I used to be a flight medic in the Air Force reserve and I now train others to do the job; I’ve seen the effects of this war up close and personal. I am also a liberal and it ticks me off to no end when I hear fat, lazy, slobs call liberals America-haters. Until they get off their fat butts and do something to EARN it, they have no grounds whatsoever to tell me I hate America. I wore a flag on my left shoulder long before 9/11 made it a fashion statement.
Posted by: J | September 21, 2007, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Elaine: “ABC is framing this as another example of the “phony war hero” phenomenon, which it isn’t. While scummy and pathetic, civilians who impersonate troops to steal the glory of the uniform at least aren’t besmirching the service.” As a former AF flight medic I couldn’t disagree with you more (with the exception of the scummy and pathetic part). How does this $&%#$^ NOT fall under the category of “phony war hero”? He faked having recieved the Purple Heart and PTSD to get money from the VA. I earned the medals I have. I earned my flight hours the hard way. I take it VERY personally when some clown like this portrays himself as a soldier. His actions VERY MUCH besmirch the service; his lies denigrate the service and sacrifice of those who have served.
Posted by: J | September 21, 2007, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
This guy wouldn’t have gotten anywhere if it weren’t for the liberal left eating these types of lies up so they can make our Military look bad. It’s the liberals who have been telling lies for the past six years, not Bush. It’s a shame American’s are so gullible and too lazy to check out the facts for themselves. If the democrats win in 2008 America will be finished. The democrats are as much enemies to America as are the terrorists.
Posted by: Robert Moon | September 21, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Failure to secure the border and his attempts to establish a North American Union is the reason I hate Bush. I support him on the war. This is a war we cannot survive losing. We have been paying the price for failure of resolve in Vietnam Lebanon and Somalia. That is part of the reason the mess in Iraq has lasted so long along with the antiwar sentiment voiced in this country. The world thinks the United States doesn’t have the stomach for a prolonged war. The terrorist feel if they can hang on just a little longer and inflict a few more casualitys more that we will tuck our tails and run. Know what? If the Democrat party has their way that is exactly what will happen. We Democrats snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory in Vietnam, they will do the same in Iraq if they can but I wont be one of them then. We have been told that if we pull out of Iraq before the job is done the terroristd will follow us home. The anti war people laugh at this but… if it was to happen it will be Bush’s fault, you can bet on that. The ultra liberal group called General Petraeus a liar and a traitor. If you think of yourself as a liberal and damn proud of it you will be thought of as they are, corrupt unprincibled perhaps even a traitor to your country. If that doesn’t set well with you maybe you aren’t as liberal as you think. Certainly move on doesn’t have any respect for the military nor do they support our troops. The general is one of our troops also.
Posted by: Don Holland | September 21, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
J, thanks for making the connection between wannabe military dictators and the Left perfectly clear for all of us.
If you are still serving, ask your senior NCO to remind you of your oath of service.
Posted by: DaveP. | September 21, 2007, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
To Gordon Betts:
Why blame the left? Besides Macbeth, since September 11th, I can name the following people who have attacked the US military, the US presidency and/or the United States: Micah Wright,Jimmy Massey, Scott Thomas Beachamp.
1) Micah Wright falsely claimed to be a Ranger who witnessed atrocities commited by the US military in Panama. He routinely appeared at antiwar rallies and universities to talk about how evil the US government was and the things that he witness. Guess what? He never served in the military.
2) Jimmy Massey claimed that that Marines routinely killed Iraqi civilans purposely. Not only did he state this at antiwar rallies, but he also testified to this in the courts of Canada. However, a reporter named Ron Harris was embedded with the Marines at the time that these “war crimes” happened denies any such incidents happened.
3) Scott Thomas Beachamp has articles in the New Republic attacking the military. It turns out that the articles are all false.
What do these people have in common? They all lean left. Additionally, they are attacking the military, the president and the country with lies. These people are not like the average fake veterans who want either glory (like former congressman Strangefellow) or benefits (like the gallery of stooges in this article). Macbeth, Massey, Wright, and Beachamp have consciously decided to destroy the reputation of the United States government and military, both within and without the country. All four come from the political left. (Notice I said Left and not Liberal; they are different animals. John Kennedy and Franklin Roosevelt were liberals; these four “men” are not.)
Posted by: WonderingEra | September 22, 2007, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Mike West Palm Beach are you a comedian—”silent majority”???
Anyway, this guy is a clown and a scumbag. More crap from conservatives though, I’m a liberal 14 year 10 month 100% disabled Iraqi Freedom vet with 12 medals and 17 ribbons. Oh and guess what I want our troops out. Been there 3xs, each progressively more screwed up.
Posted by: Keith Jacobsen Ret. | September 22, 2007, 1:21 am 1:21 am
He reminds me of John Kerry, Murftha they all made up stories about war that was pure BS, Murftha basicaly called the Marine Hadifa murderers on false made evidence by TERRORISTS! I think both Kerry and Murtha are unfit as soldiers and human beings, I hope the throw the book at this other creep and the two creep senators! Just remember Kerry the disgraced Viet Nam soldier went the the Senate in 1972 with another so called soldier at told them about atrosities about burning villages shooting civilians etc, it turns out the so called soldier was never in Viet Nam or the Military he was PURE BS and the MEDIA BOUGHT IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER , and never thought about a backround check on him, Kerry who was the Viet Congs best friend knew this guy was a fraud, and Kerry is now a distructive digracefull,anti America, pro terrorist US senator, he is no better that the guy who lied who was deemed unfit, I think Kerry and Murtha all should be removed because they are low life lying excuses of human debris, I know Kerry committed treason in 1972. and Murftha should be removed because he is a worthless human being!
You ever wonder why Carter gave Kerry his honorable discharge papers in 1978, he was Dishonorable discharged in 1972 for conduct un becoming as an officer, with all his Anti America, Anti war Pro communist crap?
This unfit soldier who lied the MEDIA was the first to praise him for coming out without one shred of evidence this guy was real! We know who are Americans and who are not. GOP American, Demoncraps and the Media are anti American pro terrorists, surrender monkeys, commy Hippies stil living in 1969! Yes I question all the Democrats Patriotism, their Allience is with our enemies not the USA! Shame on the Media and the DEMONCRAP party!
Posted by: James | September 22, 2007, 1:26 am 1:26 am
In most cases like this I am very upset at this kind of behavior. However, in this one particular case I remember how bad and actually how silly his “testimony” was.
I also remember his sister posting in an on line forum shortly after the video came out that her brother was mentally unfit and was not a malicious person as a rule. She was trying to find him. I believe her.
This guy needs psychiatric help along with his punishment. He should make another video telling how he lied and get it translated, too. Then get some help. Perhaps in the future he will never do anything this heinous again.
Posted by: AmericanProtest.net | September 22, 2007, 1:48 am 1:48 am
My father served in Vietnam, where he was wounded in action & received the Purple Heart. He also served in Desert Storm.
My father served his country PROUDLY for 30 plus years & yet, it seem’s the retirees/families are the “low man” on the list. While the people in this story have received monetary compensation-medical services-benefits that, they DID NOT earn, my father fights to get what he is entitled to as a Vet.
Where is the respect they deserve? The benefits they were promised when they joined? Serve your country for 20 plus years, and you are supposed to get the best available medical care/benefits. But, yet, when both of my parents try to do this, they are the last people considered. While I do support/believe that the Active-Duty soldier’s are important, what about the Veterans & their families that came before them?
It’s way past time to step-up America & support the Troops, both current & past!
Duty~Honor~Country~
Signed, ArmyBrat
Posted by: ArmyBrat | September 22, 2007, 2:04 am 2:04 am
wilder5121 – the documents you cite give me or anyone else the right to question your patriotism. It is called Freedom of Speech. You of course may get your “panties in a tussle” and cry all you want about it. You see, it goes both ways, something the left, and Democrats have yet to figure out. YOu do not want tolerance, you want acceptance and affirmation.
Posted by: Joel Weymouth | September 22, 2007, 2:45 am 2:45 am
All you conservatives who are trying to claim that liberals are anti-military are going to have your entire worldview implode when we make Wes Clark our VP nominee. Which is somewhere between 98 and 99% likely. How will you explain that?
Oh. Wait. You won’t be able to.
It’s going to be so beautiful to watch all your juvenile, jingoistic arguments suddenly make no sense.
Posted by: nocore | September 22, 2007, 4:25 am 4:25 am
Batfink – kudos for your well said comments.
Posted by: Renee | September 22, 2007, 5:57 am 5:57 am
“It’s the liberals who have been telling lies for the past six years, not Bush.”
Sooner or later, this fact (which it is) will be understood by all. Of course, at that time, nobody will admit to having either bought or peddled those lies, but that’s the way it always turns out for liberals with no honor. We will remember who and what they were in our hour of greatest need, though.
Posted by: Batfink | September 22, 2007, 7:27 am 7:27 am
This is the beginning concerning these fakers, sent the money back, and broke the deal after discovering that some 25 of their nonfiction books in the Special Forces/LRP/LRRP/Ranger genre were writing BS war tales according to the US National Archive records. One nonfiction author, inside all of his books claimed he earned 2 Silver Stars and 2 Purple Hearts for the same day’s combat! A military impossibility, but only non-military types would believe such nonsense. Linderer posted a forged DD214 on a blog site and these authors gave me and my family hell for years. Now, watch them sweat it.
Posted by: Don Hall | September 22, 2007, 8:48 am 8:48 am
This has nothing to do with politics. This is scam “artist” trying to make a quick buck. Those who try to turn this into a politicized circus are a disgrace to this country. No wonder it is falling apart when people can’t resist taking cheat shots at their fellow Americans.
Posted by: djconklin | September 22, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am
“All you conservatives who are trying to claim that liberals are anti-military are going to have your entire worldview implode when we make Wes Clark our VP nominee.”
How is that? Is it an article of conservative faith that nobody ever dishonored the uniform? John Kerry was in the Navy, too, until he was dishonorably discharged. How does the fact that you have a true believer who was once a General shake the worldview that American elected leaders ought not be anti-American scum?
Me, I hope you do get him on the bill. It’d be fun. But frankly, so would pretty much anyone else in the running, so I’m not worried we’ll miss out on the fun. It will be extremely entertaining political theater, whatever else it is.
Posted by: Batfink | September 22, 2007, 10:43 am 10:43 am
To djconklin:
If this has nothing with politics, why did Jesse Macbeth, Micah Wright, Jimmy Massey, and Scott Thomas Beachamp claim that they saw or particpated in war crimes that never happened? Why did these people go to the media repeatedly with their false stories? Why did they go to antiwar protests, usually as the “voice of conscious” of the “truth” about the US military? At least two of these “men”, MacBeth and Massey, are members of Iraq Veterans Against the War, a political group.
Posted by: WonderingEra | September 22, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am
I hope the VA cracks down on Bush’s phoney record next. Everyone knows he was a deserter.
Posted by: May Ann | September 22, 2007, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Batfink – huh? John Kerry was honorably discharged. You need to stop getting your “facts” from discredited Swiftvets and other partisan liars.
Posted by: May Ann | September 22, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am
I have found over these last seventy plus years that if a man advertises himself too much he has nothing to sell.In my time they called them Gedunk sailors.I admire and respect every veteran that has served hate the ones that have not and advertise they have.A real veteran will be hesitant to talk about his operations.A real veteran does not have to advertise.
Posted by: Harley Cross | September 22, 2007, 11:56 am 11:56 am
To Joel Weymouth
Wesley clark will never be VP he is another life scum sucking Democrat anti American career military with ZERO talent, Hillary when she called A 4 star General a liar she will never have a military she will destroy it! I question all but a few Democrats patriotism because they don’t don’t like America and they love our enemy the TERRORISTS! The democrat party has been a total Anti Military, Anti American, with alliences to the enemy for 50 years plus and now taking massive money from MUSLIM GROUPS and China for their 08 campaigns! Ask the Marines who protected Hillary what they though of her! She refused to even acknowledge that they where there she hated them so badly they could not wear Uniforms, they could not talk to her or make eye contact with her, Her hatred of the military goes back to when she drew cops calling them pigs is her 1969 hippie dippy attitude! SHE will never be the next president no matter how much the willing media prop her up! She and all the current DNC party members are Commnists and Marxists! 65% negitive rating on Hillary after HSU scandal and her joke of NATIONLIZED HEALTH CARE, HILLARY SCARE CARE 2! I am tired of whinny wimpy Democrats that think that their party is patriotic! 3% aproval of how the Democrats they are handeling the war with P%&$ on America and Dingy rotten Harry Reid! 3% and 14% over all, and you think you can win in 08 good luck liberalism is a mental disorder!
Posted by: James | September 22, 2007, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
TO BILL WILLIAMS
WHO DID OUT PLAME RICHARD ARMITAGE AND JOE WILSON SHOULD THEY BE PROSECUTED
WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SOME LEFT IN IRAQ US SOLDIERS FOUND SOME WERE USED ON US SOLDIERS IN IRAQ SADDAMS OWN MEN SAID THEY WENT TO SYRIA MOVED BY THE RUSSIANS IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT IN SYRIA IN THE BEKKA VALLEY THAT KILLED IRANIAN AND SYRIAN SCIENTIST AND MILITARY PERSONEL WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO INSTALL A CHEMICAL WARHEAD ON A SCUD SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD RESEARCH THE FACTS AND SEE WHO ACTUALLY DID LIE
Posted by: JIM | September 22, 2007, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
I am a Vietnam ERA vet. I make note of the ERA part because I never served in Vietnam, the war ended while I was in training. I did a short Navy stint, then 2 years in the California Army National Guard. The only decorations I ever earned were a marksmanship badge and a Cal ARNG service ribbon. For the uninitiated, that is earned simply by signing your name on the dotted line and serving one day honorably. Because of the time frame, I didn’t even qualify for the US Service medal/ribbon.
Having said that, when I help at funerals for the American Legion (the only time that I use any military decorations) I wear ONLY that to which I am entitled. Many of the veterans that I help bury were real heroes and I could never belittle or disgrace their valid service by pretending to have served and sacrificed at the level which they did.
My father was a Korean War vet, my stepfather was a WWII vet. Their combat medals, discharge certificates, and funeral flags are proudly displayed in cases in my home office. They earned them through their blood, sweat and tears. I display these mementos to honor them. To wear them when they were not earned should be a crime with harsh penalties.
Admiral Jeremy Boorda, Chief of Navel Operations under Bill Clinton, committed suicide when he was investigated for wearing the “V for Valor under combat” enhancement on his Navy Achievement and Navy Commendation medals. Although Adm Elmo Zumwaldt said that he was entitled to them, the Board for Correction of Navel Records, the final arbitrator of these matters, disagreed. The point is that Adm Boorda, a highly decorated sailor who worked his way from the enlisted ranks all the way to the top spot in the Navy, realized how serious even this small amount of padding to his record could be, and took his own life out of shame. He was much more honorable than these fakes who wear the decorations without having served. If they had any honor at all, they should follow Adm Boorda’s example
Posted by: Hammy | September 22, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
does’nt hell have a special circle for military imposters?
Posted by: antibarby | September 22, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
This man is a traitor and should be tried for Treason.
Posted by: Paul | September 22, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Posted by: J | Sep 21, 2007 10:12:37 PM
J, first off, what I posted was copied from Hotair But I agree with the sentiment. Allow me to explain.
Your typical fake war vet will go arround telling people he is or was in the military because he knows that most people give respect and honor for that. So he seeks to steal the honor he has not earned. The typical faker will say “I served honorably” and expect to be given the respect due to an honorable veteran. The faker steals honor from the military because he sees it as honorable.
That isn’t what Jesse McBeth did. He portrayed himself as a vetran and said that he killed innocent Iraqis in order to SMEAR the military. He never tried to portray himself as an honorable vet. He deliberately tried to portray himself as a dishonorable vet inorder to bring disgrace upon the military.
This is what you said about yourself:
“I earned the medals I have. I earned my flight hours the hard way. I take it VERY personally when some clown like this portrays himself as a soldier. [...] his lies denigrate the service and sacrifice of those who have served.
”
All this is true, which is why a faker will try to steal what you have, which is honor and respect. So a faker will pretend to be like you, because he sees you have something of value.
If Jesse had impersonated you, he would have instead said that while serving, he had killed innocent men, women, and children, defiled their corpses, and looted their mosques. And that all of his/your comrades had done the same thing. Why? Because Jesse isn’t trying to steal your honor and respect. He is trying to destroy and denigrate it.
A faker tries to steal miltary honor.
Jesse tried to destroy it.
Posted by: Elaine | September 22, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Hillary takes the White House in ’08. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in James’ house on that day. I’ve never acutally seen anyone go insane before, but in his case I’d have to say it’s quite well deserved. ;)
Posted by: Chris | September 22, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Good to see that the complete collapse of the conservative agenda is taking it’s toll. Meanwhile, the White House and Congress will belong to the Dems in ’08. Hope your glorious memories of the “Permament Republican Majority” will keep you and the other failures warm. ROFL
Posted by: Jeremy | September 22, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
antibarby – I hope so, because that’s where Bush is headed. LOL
Posted by: Jeremy | September 22, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
I believe this guy actually told the truth. The rightwing govt made him recant his story. He is a hero!
Posted by: Bub | September 22, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
There sure are a few right-wing psycho-nuts on these boards. I wonder why with an registration number of 100,000 members why the Young Republicans don’t join the service??? The only people joining are from small-towns with no opportunities, criminals who need waivers and high school dropouts. You think if these lying sacks of crap would join then there wouldn’t be a reason for the Army to have to enlist dropouts and criminals.
Posted by: real veteran | September 22, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
“John Kerry was honorably discharged. ”
By Jimmy Carter. 5+ years years later. So — during the intervening years, was he discharged other than honorable, or was he just AWOL for 5+ years?
Take a better look at where you get your own news, lady.
Posted by: Batfink | September 22, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Hey James…your incoherent ranting makes me think you’ve been eating a few thousand of Rush Limbaugh’s Oxycontin.
Posted by: wilder5121 | September 22, 2007, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
“If this has nothing with politics, why did Jesse Macbeth, Micah Wright, Jimmy Massey, and Scott Thomas Beachamp claim that they saw or particpated in war crimes that never happened?” 1) I’m talking about this particular case.
2) People say all sorts of things. That’s why you have to keep an independent mind and think things through for yourself vs. simply assuming one political stripe is more pure than the other and feeding at the trough of the loud-mouths extremists from both sides.
Posted by: djconklin | September 22, 2007, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Jeremy, you are young and stupid! keep drinking the DNC koolaide of the DEMOCRAT party!
Posted by: James | September 22, 2007, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Oh geesh, now we see the after affects of the Swiftboat ads. Lies repeated are believed!
Actually, I think it started with The US “will not participate in nation building” and “I’m a uniter not a divider.” Now, who was it that said that?
Posted by: Michael | September 23, 2007, 9:11 am 9:11 am
How did this clown get past the front door of the VA in the first place?I’m retired Navy with 20 years honorable service and I need a truck load of paperwork just to get someone to talk to me.
Posted by: Paul | September 23, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Well I know A vitnam vet that come home after serving in Tanks and told A USAF General he picked up a rifel in vitnam so he wanted the Army Rifelmans Badge and the General got it for him.
Posted by: Bobbie A Birdett | September 23, 2007, 10:04 am 10:04 am
“Oh geesh, now we see the after affects of the Swiftboat ads. Lies repeated are believed!”
Sure: Go with that. Because everyone knows that when someone lies about you in a presidential campaign, the smart thing to do would NEVER be to simply release the records that prove it.
Posted by: Batfink | September 23, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am
“Because everyone knows that when someone lies about you in a presidential campaign, the smart thing to do would NEVER be to simply release the records that prove it.”
Well, not as long as those records would prove the opposite of what the candidate is claiming. Here’s a tip: Some lies are so obvious, that even the united press and left can’t repeat them enough to get them believed.
Posted by: Batfink | September 23, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I think he really should be sent to the front lines in Iraq to be in the company of the real heroes that this coward has so unjustly slandered.
C. Heard
New York, NY
Posted by: Craig Heard | September 23, 2007, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
GW skipped out of Nam. He used the silver (coke) spoon he was born with to evade active combat service and instead went on to work another dingleberry republican’s election campaign. I don’t remember anyone I served with getting that kind of “special” dispensation. GW is a coward. The kind who would start a fight in a bar and then expect his friends to finish it for him.
“Mission Accomplished”…indeed. The only thing he was missing in that photo op was a codpiece – which should have been slung around his ears.
Posted by: Zeke | September 23, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
These guys are cowards and losers.
Posted by: Dave | September 23, 2007, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I have read othe comments on the message boards about people claiming to have been hero’s in either the Viet Nam war or the war in Iraq, all I can say is that you take this with a grain of salt, as not everyone speaks the truth.
Posted by: BTL musings | September 23, 2007, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I think the allusion to GWB’s “Vietnam War Record” may have been an attempt to point out that Little George HAD NONE. But daddy George 1st counseled Little George when that he really needed “uniform time” to be a successful politician. The image thing, you know. …Same thing with Little George’s theatrical ‘carrier landing’ to announce “Mission Accomplished” in Iraq. (I wonder how many Americans have died since George “accomplished his mission”?)
Posted by: beeker77 | September 24, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Another sad aspect of this jerk’s little trick; since it was translated into Arabic – now available for muslim fanatics to use as further “evidence” of Imperial Americans killing “innocents” indiscriminately. More ammo for America-haters WORLD-WIDE. He should be tried for treason. We need to take a stand against “so-called” Americans weakening this country inside and out. Aren’t you all ashamed yet?
Posted by: from MINN | September 24, 2007, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
I am much impressed with Don Holland’s post (above). Going into Iraq may have been a horrible blunder, but two years before GW Bush came to Washington a unamimous Senate and 90 percent of the House passed the Iraq Liberation Act (search the Web) calling for a US policy of supporting removing Saddam from power and promoting democracy in Iraq. The UN Security Council declared Saddam’s regime to be a “threat to the peace,” and EVERY senior foreign policy official in the Clinton Administration (Clinton, Gore, Berger, etc.) believed Saddam had WMD (which he obviously HAD had in the past). Putin admits he told Bush Russian intelligence had learned Saddam was planning attacks on America before the war, as did virtually everyone in the region from Egypt to Jordan. Congress authorized the war with 80% support from the public. There have been lots of mistakes and misjudgments, but the idea we went to war over “lies” is patently FALSE.
This ‘OIF veteran” is a carbon copy of a bunch of clowns John Kerry worked with in Jan. 1971 to accuse those of us who were in Vietnam of being war criminals. (I had just started my second VN tour as an Army Captain earlier that month, and my only brother was serving his second tour as a Marine in I Corps at the time.)
I’m neither a Republican or Democrat — i’m an AMERICAN. And if we don’t stop these false accusations that mislead our public and defame our volunteers, I fear al Qaeda will again bring the war here to our malls, schools, and churches. Politicians of either party who try to put their party’s interests above those of the nation should be sent home to find more appropriate employment.
Bob
Posted by: Bob Turner | September 24, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
A fake Chaplin! A person will lie about anything to claim he was a hero in the military. I guess the over weight faker will have time to exercise now.
Posted by: Phil | September 24, 2007, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
A phony war hero to go along with the left’s phony Republican protester Jeb Eddy and Hillary’s phony Southern accent.
Posted by: Jason | September 24, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Mike from West Palm Beach, YOU ARE RIGHT ON BRO!!!
Posted by: Matt W | September 24, 2007, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
You liberals just don’t get it. GWB’s “daddy” at the time was the Director of the CIA during the Vietnam Era. Can you imagine if GWB was shot down and taken prisoner by the NVA and they found out WHO he was and WHO his “daddy” was at the time???!!! That would have had disastrous results not to mention would have been a Disaster for our National Security at the time. But liberals like you don’t ever want to know about the facts, you just want to make stuff up as you go along.
Posted by: Matt W | September 24, 2007, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
This is the real anti-war movement.
Posted by: Sam | September 25, 2007, 2:41 am 2:41 am
People like Macbeth can’t perpetrate a hoax unless they have a gullible audience and skilled handlers playing them like a puppet on a string. Both the VA and a Vet’s organization failed miserably at vetting Macbeth and in the instance of the VA, just handed out $10K without proper vetting of any kind. The Vet’s organization ran his inflammatory stuff; apparently without vetting anything also, thus putting their credibility on the chopping block and then ‘thwack.’ Now, they get to be just another bunch of gamesters getting caught with a known nutter on point. Like that level of extreme nutterness would be impossible to miss and searching questions asked; especially by Vets that know opps details and organizations like the back of their hand.
I’m a VN Vet, and saw enough nutters on the loose at the time. Often as not they were about as menacing as the coastal VC, except far less disciplined, far less armed; way more ‘toxed’, far less in numbers, and usually manning the Yard offices where paper cut Purple Hearts were common.
Bottom line, being a nutter is one thing, but taking advantage of a nutter is something else.
Mudge
Posted by: Mudge | September 25, 2007, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Wow…what kind of idiot would stain the name of the military and claim to kill innocents?
I hope he gets what is coming to him!
Posted by: Sage1989 | September 25, 2007, 9:20 am 9:20 am
It doesn’t matter if you are left or right, liberal or not. Bush hater or not, these men and women are doing their JOBS!! My husband chose to defend this country of his own free will as many other AMERICANS have! He has done this so all of us can have the PRIVELEDGE to speak our opinions, protest, or whatever venue you choose to use. Anyone like this person who has disgraced the armed forces by pretending should be sent to the front lines so he can experience the destruction and damage these men and women face day in and day out to not only provide the freedom that we hold so dear but to help another country obtain that freedom as well. Whether this war was started by false pretenses it doesn’t matter because out military is there like it or not and without our support to them,what will they come home to? whether you support your governments decision, you must support these men and women! and be damned to anyone who tries to impersonate such a respectable position!
Posted by: Stacy | September 25, 2007, 11:38 am 11:38 am
He had a great angle that almost worked…many soldiers had to lie to get treatment at walter reed as well
Posted by: daddy | September 25, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Fact is look how far and fast the left picked this guy up and took him for a ride. It is so funny to see all the made up stories. I am a an American Soldier who has earned several purple hearts from the same place the Soldiers who guarded the bridge and were kidnapped guarded in the Triangle of Death. I say send this runt to Iraq along with all others who want to steal from those who sacrificed. The true Heroes that he defrauded are the Families who lost Soldiers in this war.
Posted by: forrest langley | September 25, 2007, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
This guy and the dorks like him need to be taken to task and put away for a long time.They try and sell a left leaning slant against the military and if you really dig I would bet they are given the ideas from democommunist party types.I think they used to hank guys like this didnt they? :) , oh well we can always hope.
Posted by: Mike | September 25, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
This dirt bag should be put in cell only long enough to collect more like him, then they can be sent on patrol in Fallujah for the rest of their natural lives. As for the liberal left, they did not put him up to the lie, but they jumped at the chance to embrace him. Curious they have not done the same for the real heros who did serve.
Posted by: Jon Weiss | September 26, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
I have read of peoples claims before about being war hero’s and all I can say is to take it with a grain of salt unless it can be verified.
Posted by: BTL musings | September 26, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
I wonder what he registered as? I hate to see pawns used for political power. As America fights in Iraq it also fights each other Both sides think they are right! But both are wrong. But Money Talks. Its the wealthy controling the Poor! You tube is a Mega site for disgruntles americans that hate each other! All for what? Its The Divided States of America. And we worry about global warmming-lol,, thats the least of americas problems.
Posted by: ftec | September 26, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Craig Heard : Thats what being the Boss is all about..
Posted by: ftec | September 26, 2007, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Great, so when are they going to go after John Kerry and the other fake ‘heroes’ he used to protest with during Vietnam?
The guy injured himself with a hand grenade, used his mistake to come home early, and preceded to tell the same lies this joker did, only Kerry did it IN FRONT OF CONGRESS. Hello, anyone out there?
Posted by: Larry | September 27, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am
i pretty tired of fake service people and non military personal spreading lies and half truths there will come a time when they will answer for their lies
Posted by: r h | September 28, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
The left isn’t the side with all the fake vets. Its the right. Here’s one the right promoted who got way more attention than Macbeth.
Posted by: creeksneakers2 | September 29, 2007, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Kerry was in the NAVAL RESERVE from the time he left Viet Nam until he was honorably discharged, you idiot –
By smearing a veteran that has been awarded not only the Purple Heart but also the Bronze Star and Silver Star (for two separate combat incidents), you demean every decorated combat veteran by implying that those medals are awarded falsely and are subject to ridicule. Shame on you…
Posted by: kdo | October 2, 2007, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Stupid idiots who can’t think for themselves, prefer to be led by the nose, can’t stand up to authority because they’re cowards, and think that a lying, illiterate drunk who can’t read is now a messiah because his dad’s friends rigged the electoral process and put him in the White House. Well, see the mess he’s made in Iraq! Now, if he’d been smart he wouldn’t have gone there in the first place. Now he doesn’t know how to get out of the mess he made. Silly morons.
Posted by: Bruce | October 2, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Bruce, If there was one ounce of truth to what you have said The house and Senate would already have begun Impeachment proceedings! To buy into extreme liberal blogs will get your mouth in trouble every time. Investigate things yourself. Don’t believe it just because you want to!
Posted by: Gary | October 3, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
“Kerry was in the NAVAL RESERVE from the time he left Viet Nam until he was honorably discharged, you idiot — ”
No. You’re at least wrong, and most likely lying as well.
“Mr. Kerry’s military commitment began with his six-year enlistment contract with the Navy on February 18, 1966. His commitment should have terminated in 1972. It is highly unlikely that either the man who at that time was a Vietnam Veterans Against the War leader, John Kerry, requested or the Navy accepted an additional six year reserve commitment. And the Claytor document indicates proceedings to reverse a less than honorable discharge that took place sometime prior to February 1978.” -Thomas Lipscomb
John Kerry was thrown out of the Navy dishonorably, and rightly so considering his treason. He really ought to have been jailed. He went crying to the first Democrat president he could find to get it upgraded.
Posted by: Batfink | October 4, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
progressives only ever lie about anything and they hate the troops.
Posted by: M | October 4, 2007, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Mudge-We always said, ‘you hear the best war stories from the truck drivers and supply clerks. I’m with you, I think he’s a plant.
Posted by: Cacti Green | October 9, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I’m not a vet. But I am the daughter, wife, sister & daughter in law of one. I’m a moderate to liberal democrat (depending on the issue). I even protested the VietNam War. But this kinda “bash Bush anyway you can” is getting old.
But unlike too many liberals I understand the power of the media & images to sway the masses. Who hasn’t suffered at the hands of someone trying to smear your reputation? Was everything they said the truth? Was even the truth unvarnished?
This is a war of propaganda like no other. Many of the terrorist leaders are educated and well to do. They sway the ignorant, gullible, stupid, mentally ill, etc. with lies & spin. Then those like this man & the “bash Bush at any cost” feed into their propaganda.
True, there have been alot of mistakes made. Name me one war that hasn’t had. WW II had concessions made so long that by the time we entered it was almost unwinnable, except for grace & so many willing to risk all despite the odds.
We now are fighting on 2 fronts. A media allowed to say anything w/o consequences & a war with a sharply reduced military that must fight those that hide in shadows & caves & can’t even be reconized by their clothing.
Posted by: sylvia | October 9, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Impersonating a military member or making a false official statement that references real or fake military service should be a felony.
Posted by: Anonymous MSGT | October 19, 2007, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
It surves the american people right to beleive everything they see and hear on computers, radios, and tv’s. Everyone knows this guy did a stupid act. If he were telling the truth about the health benefits then it is very hard to blame him. Our counrty is out of conrtol. And instead of coming together and doing something about it, everyone is at each others necks to prove their point or over power each other.
Our nation is going to fall and be ran over by others because of our self distruction, unless we do somethings differently.
Posted by: tricia | October 31, 2007, 2:16 am 2:16 am
Men like this one are the reason people disgrace our heroes funerals with picket signs and epithets. My husband died in Iraq because he actually cared about those people and their freedom as well as ours here at home. I get so angry when I see people like this dishonoring the military, and causing smears to my husband and other fallen soldiers good names!!!!!!!
In Loving Memory of Spc Justin KiA 8-5-07 Baghdad, Iraq
Posted by: Fiancee of a Fallen Hero | February 29, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
The only reason tnis bum got any news attention is because he told the liberal left what they wanted to hear.
Posted by: Johnny | March 4, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Yes, I agree. He should not go to prison but instead spend a year in the Army. No necesarily in Iraq (where he’d do more harm than good) but maybe somewhere doing something useful: cleaning weapons, digging ditches, working as a cook; something useful but not important. The Army would do nicely since they have very low standards now.
Posted by: Davis Bradley | March 6, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Just because he was kicked out, he is still under the UCMJ control for a certain period of time. His butt needs to be put in prison (Levenworth) and not for just 5 months. I wouldnt want the boys over in Iraq to be stressed any further by having to babysit this idiot.
Posted by: obewan | March 7, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
I would just throw him in jail and throw the keys away!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Ted Pert | March 9, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
As a Veteran ( US Army 86-91 ) I am sickened by the indviduals who pretend to be “vets” to garner attention from civilians. As an American I am disgusted by the level hatred between the “neo-cons” and the “liberals”. This is fracturing our society and country. I whole heartedly supported the invasion and utter distruction of the Taliban and pursuit of Al-Qeada in Afghanistan. As an American I am whole heartedly disgusted by our invasion of Iraq. Do you honestly think that a despot and tyrant such as Saddam Hussein would have tolerated a relgious terrorist group that was the against him and how he ruled Iraq? No. He would have crushed them. The fact that we invaded another country based on lies and “He tried to kill my daddy”. Bush is the single most dangerous person to all American’s. When we invaded Iraq, we lost the moral authority we had when we attacked Afghanistan. I am disgusted by the fact that some American’s still feel a need to defend a President who’s poor decision to invade another country for what can best be said was for political gain back here. He politicized 9/11 for the Republican party’s gain. He wanted to be seen as “tough” on terrorism by invading Iraq, because Afghanistan wouldn’t be enough to crush the democrats in the 2004 election. This was all about being re-elected and being seen as tough. When we needed to put 150,000 troops in Afghanistan and capture Bin-Laden.
Posted by: Dockworker | March 14, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
To those that served, you have earned the right to your opinions.
I believe that I’ve earned the right. Vietnam 1967-68 (11B40,100 disabled) To those that didn’t, you’re taking up space on this earth! If you think that this President is doing the right thing, why don’t you serve?, why didn’t you serve? At this point they’ll take anybody, felonies and all.
If you don’t qualify for service to your Country, Halliburton or KBR may take your application. If you feel so strongly about those serving under this President then by all means, GO! and please don’t worry about your present job,(it’ll be there when you return)or your mortgage, your wife and kids because your new employer will pay you a good salary. PUT YOUR HEART WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!
Posted by: GRUNTSGT | May 4, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
The American Government can force anyone (you or even I) to say whatever it wants you to say in an effort to maintain a universal/worldwide shining and spotless humane image/reputation. Jessie MacBeth stood alone when he made that statement against the Iraqi War. Every negative word conveyed and expressed from an American Soldier, may very well be reality and not necessarily fiction as some would have us to believe. Open mindedness verses close mindedness you choose. I support each and everyone of our soldier’s in this war and I pray that they all return home real soon. God bless them all.
Posted by: Morocco | August 3, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Anyone for flogging this idiotic disgrace to American society? I am. I say give him 150 lashes of a bullwhip. Need a volunteer to apply those lashes? I volunteer.
A 70 year old, 2 tour Vietnam vet.
Posted by: Akanka | September 14, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm