Oct 12, 2007 12:38pm

Mom Charged in Planned ‘Columbine-Style’ School Attack

Prosecutors in Pennsylvania have charged the mother of a teenager who allegedly planned a "Columbine -style" attack at his former high school in connection with purchasing her son three of the more than 30 weapons in his arsenal seized by police. The youth, an overweight 14-year-old who authorities described as having severe emotional problems, had plotted his attack during the 18 months since he was pulled out of high school, after repeated bullying. He was being homeschooled at the time of his arrest, authorities said. "I am pretymuch," he wrote in a badly spelled post on his MySpace page, "the posterboy for the person that rests upon the line between Geineus and Madman/Pycopath." THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS Blotter Planned ‘Columbine-Style’ Attack Averted: Student Arrested Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage. Authorities allege that the boy’s mother, Michele Cossey, bought her son a .22-caliber handgun, a .22-caliber rifle and a 9 mm semiautomatic rifle. She has been charged with unlawful transfer of a firearm, possession of a firearm by a minor, corruption of a minor, endangering the welfare of a child and two counts of reckless endangerment. The teenager was arrested when he was reported to police by another youth who he tried to recruit for the possible attack at Plymouth Whitemarsh High School, prosecutors said. On Wednesday evening, police searched the Cossey home, a ranch-style house in Plymouth township, and found the rifle, about 30 air-powered guns, swords, knives, a bomb-making book, videos of the 1999 Columbine attack in Colorado, violence-filled notebooks and four homemade hand grenades, Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce L. Castor said. According to court papers, Cossey bought the rifle and laser scope at a gun show on Sept. 23. She provided police with a receipt. Those same papers asserted the teenager told authorities he stored the two .22-caliber weapons at a friend’s house. Click Here to Register for Blotter Alerts.

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I hope this kid gets either the psychological help he needs, or he gets charged as an adult. I’m an alumn of this high school and I currently still have friends and a sibling there. There are also teachers I loved teaching there. That could’ve been any one of them on the other end of those guns.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Not very smart there, Mom…

Posted by: Jazz | October 12, 2007, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Crazy mother = very crazy, unstable son. What a tragedy for all concerned and how sad when the parent is the one responsible for their child’s crimes. Mother needs to go to prison, son needs to be committed to a mental institution.

Posted by: Bethy | October 12, 2007, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

When would a good mother buy a 14 yr old guns. She has to be crazy. Put her in jail.

Posted by: Kathy | October 12, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Sad situation all around. Any anger I felt at the Mom for being so stupid as to give a disturbed child guns seems over-weighted by looking at her picture. She appears none too sharp herself and has the appearance of a mother overwhelmed, someone who tried to keep a son happy whose behavior she could not control. Not only did she make foolish choices but ones that could have resulted in the death of several innocent children.

Posted by: JVK | October 12, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Other news sources say he also had a live hand grenade. Where does a 14 year old kid get a hand grenade? The investigation needs to look beyond his mother for his sources for weapons.

Posted by: Ben | October 12, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

so…. this guy wears a moo-moo?

Posted by: RW | October 12, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Wow, the mother is crazy too. No wonder this kid has mutiple problems…

Posted by: gregory boone | October 12, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

What is the matter with today’s parents! don’t they see what is goning on in this world, and still she goes out there and buys this kid guns, swords, ect., to shoot and kill people? I think she should get years in prison along with her husband and kid. They are all wackos.

Posted by: Irma | October 12, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

It’s about time that parents also get the blame. The teen should have known right from wrong. At times I think that they use Columbine as an excuse to “punish” their punishers. If teens want to prove themselves…go to college, get yourself a well paid career and come the reunion showing off while the bullies are still stuck in the same place. Now, that I is what i call revenge.

Posted by: Lettie | October 12, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

I hope they (the court system) make this mother very famous and that she never will see the light of day. Any Book and Movie rights should go to the child for his care, and a reward to the youth who came forward.

Posted by: Williamwfh | October 12, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Straw purchasers beware! This was great police work. This is how police work should happen. Get the kid before he blows 32 people away. They should give this kid a slap on the wrist and some counseling. He’s not a murderer, even though he wanted to be one. Since he didn’t kill anyone, the prosecutor and the kid have lots of choices to make. This is a good story. I am glad to read it.

Posted by: Sean O'Brien | October 12, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Let’s put the kid in supervised treatment and therapy until he’s 25. Her and her husband’s parental rights should be terminated and the woman ought to go to prison for the next 30 years or so. Enough of this idiocy!

Posted by: morgan sheridan | October 12, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

“A slap on the wrist and some counseling”? You’re as nuts as they are…

Posted by: Jazz | October 12, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Hey, hey, NRA!
Stand up for his rights today!
Isn’t EVERY American citizen endowed by their Creator with the right to own enough firepower to supply a small army????
Where are you guys??? What? Finally found one gun-looney you CAN’T defend??

Posted by: dsotm | October 12, 2007, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Ah…more white-trash in the news. I can’t help but lay this tragedy at the feet of the parents.

Posted by: Steve | October 12, 2007, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

I agree that this kid needs some very intensive and serious psycological help along with being banned from possessing any types of weapons for a very, very long period of time. The mother is grossly negligent in her parenting, moral guidance and supplying this kid with weapons as she did. Her ex-husband is a convicted felon, did she learn nothing in life? She was raising another felon here.

Posted by: Rick_VT | October 12, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

What was done about the bullying itself by the teachers and others in charge at the school in reaction to the bullying that seems to be behind this kid getting motivated in the wrong direction? Were the parents on all sides contacted? How did they respond? Obviously, bullying is not a reason to pack an entire arsonal of weaponry that also includes bombs. But I grew up with parents and others in charge at school doing too little or nothing at all in response to bullying that at times amounted to more than just petty little annoyances. Bullying in more schools than some people want to know about is a lot of times the dirty little secret behind much of the violence that happens in schools today. This should also be just as much of a part of the police investigation as where this kid got the other guns from and how they were payed for. I also grew up going to school with other kids whose parents who didn’t look much smarter than this kid’s mother. She should be locked away permanently for her stupidity alone.

Posted by: Jill Baldwin | October 12, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

This is why “McGillicuddy”-type people are no good. Because they are dumb and messed up. :)

Posted by: Bobo | October 12, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

One poster stated the mother doesn’t “appear” to be very intelligent. Why, because she’s crying and she’s overweight? It takes minimal intelligence to know better than to provide your 14-year-old son, who had been expelled for threatening behavior, with weapons. I have no sympathy whatsoever for this woman, she deserves to be put in jail. She knowingly provided a way for her son to kill other people. The boy obviously needs years of psychological assistance, and even with that, I seriously doubt he will become a productive member of society.

Posted by: ARSailorMom | October 12, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Sounds like the mother and son both need quite a bit of psychiatric help.

Posted by: Ron | October 12, 2007, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

So where did the other 27 guns come from? Score one for the NRA!!!

Posted by: MG-999 | October 12, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

mother that willing to buy guns for a 14 yrs old son must be in a mental state condition as well….

Posted by: ddn | October 12, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

See? Once again, GUNS are not the problem– people like THIS are the problem.

Posted by: dks0442 | October 12, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Just remember this next time you hear a gun nut insisting that everyone should be able to have unfettered access to sophisticated weaponry, without a background check.
Hunting is one thing, or even a concealed weapon for defense (though I myself do not have one). But multiple guns, semiautomatics, laser scopes, etc. Idiocy.

Posted by: Mark P | October 12, 2007, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

I think the boy shot and killed himself during this attack. It is too late to get him the mental help he needed.

Posted by: justsaying | October 12, 2007, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

They should kill this fat little pig

Posted by: bob | October 12, 2007, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

In a magazine called “ODE” – You do what you eat! Diet determines behavior and fights crime. The child on the magazine cover is throwing a tantrum. In his hand is a lollipop! If that were a piece of celery, a carrot or an apple that child’s behavior would be completely different. In this study they found that the biggest predictor of violence in children was their nutrition. That really says it all. Forget tougher punishments and hiring more police. The solution to crime and violence is on your plate. It talks about how healthy food can reduce aggressive behaviour. We need to get back to fueling our kids with nutritious foods, not just feeding them!
Dr. Katz, Yale University, Wall Street Journal, March 10, 2004 says that children are more harmed by poor diet than by exposure to alcohol, drugs and tobacco combined. It’s amazing. Yet as parents we spend all this money on private schools, making sure our child has the newest bicycle, the latest toys and gadgets and we pay no attention to what they are eating. I didn’t know that there was such a huge relationship between behavior and diet when my kids were growing up.
Miracle in Wisconsin: this is a reform school. The kids were misbehaving, violence, test scores were rock bottom, kids weren’t paying attention. Natural Ovens took this school on as a project. They took out the vending machines, the fast food, the junk food and started feeing them 2 healthy home cooked meals daily … breakfast and lunch. Within a few months there was a total turn around in the school. The violence disappeared, test scores soared, kids were paying attention. A child that was interviewed said he had never been able to concentrate before. No wonder if you were eating from the vending machines, drinking sodas and eating candy bars. Instead, if you feed your kids healthy foods they will perform. They WANT to perform. They WANT to be good! There IS huge hope for our kids if we feed them right.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2007, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

“If teens want to prove themselves…go to college, get yourself a well paid career and come the reunion showing off while the bullies are still stuck in the same place. Now, that I is what i call revenge.”
Posted by: Lettie | Oct 12, 2007 1:35:08 PM
According to the article this kid was “the bully” and this is why he was kicked out of the school and being home schooled.
I’m not making excuses for the kid, he and his mother deserve whatever they have coming but if the kid was overwheight and not too bright (his poor spelling in his note is a good indication he wasn’t) then I’m certain he was constantly picked on by his fellow students adding to his lack of self esteem and many other issues he has and needs professional help for and I hope he gets it soon.
Also, if you look at the mother it’s obvious she’s not the most outstanding role model for building self-esteem in her son, that and I wonder what subjects she was home teaching her son at home…”bomb making 101″ and “when it’s ok to kill your former classmates and teachers.”
Just sayin…

Posted by: Liberty or Death | October 12, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Lock them both up and throw away the dame key, Make an example of these two to the world that we don’t put up with this crap no more! And for you kiddys in high school that get picked on all the time, well get a life ! go to the gym, take karate classes, do something with your life instead of felling sorry for your selfs. The person that turned him in , kudo’s to you.. We need more like you in this world.. GOd Bless..

Posted by: Race Fan | October 12, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

I think this is very sad. I can not believe a parent would supply a child with such violent things and know about what he plans to do with them. Obviously they are not a very stable family and both of them need help. Maybe the mother was not raised right…
I think that both the mother and sons deserve the punishment that is given and learn something from it.

Posted by: Ashley-Elizabeth | October 12, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

How did all these people know about this story and not know the boy killed himself when he saw the police approaching the school. So he used the gun his mother bought him to kill himself and luckily no one else died. The mother is obviously not well or mean as a snake, hoping he would do just what he did.
mtm in Atlanta

Posted by: Melba McClain | October 12, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

The authorities of the school and the parents of said bullies ought to go to prison for allowing the bullying. These people here are victims.

Posted by: Seeing Injustice | October 12, 2007, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Melba and justsaying – you are thinking of the shooting that DID occur in Cleveland. This is a story about a shooting that was prevented.

Posted by: Rudy | October 12, 2007, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Don’t you people understand that the name calling that your doing on this site is exactly why this boy is in this mess now? Your still bullying him!!! I’m not making excuses for his or his parents behavior, however, obviously this kid got pushed over the edge of reason and what your doing is how it happened. I was bullied as a kid but my mom taught me how to stand up for myself-this kid didn’t have that type of parenting. He needs to be held accountable for his actions, but so do his parents and possibly the school district-especially if they knew about the bullying.

Posted by: Kelly | October 12, 2007, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

OK, two people said the boy killed himself but the story says the police arrested him?????

Posted by: Katie | October 12, 2007, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

This a very sad story. The fact that anyone can go out and buy enough firepower to start a small war needs addressing.
The right to bear arms was drafted at a time when the Musket was seen as the height of sophistication firing at it’s best about three rounds per minute.
However misguided a kid gets access to a weapon of firing 200 rounds per minute. That is just nuts.

Posted by: Chris | October 12, 2007, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Melba Mclain is confused. Wrong story. This kid did not kill himself. He was merely excercising his God-given Second Ammendment right to own and bear arms. The bulk of the weapons were BB guns and pellet guns. But two .22 caliber weaons and a 9 mm? Scary.

Posted by: Spinz293 | October 12, 2007, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

You are starting to combine two incidents. The young man that shot himself after taking two handguns to school happened in Ohio. This was stopped before it actually happened and the student was arrested.
I am disheartened with this incident as anyone else but calling them names is the same sort of behavior that probably contributes to the behavior of these young men.
It is sad that, for whatever reason it was done, the mother did not use reason in obtaining and giving these guns to her son. And, just as an SUV doesn’t decide itself to overturn or do stupid acts, it is the driver behind the wheel that is the cause; the gun doesn’t just automatically jump into the hands of a person and begin firing of its own accord.

Posted by: Rebecca | October 12, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Folks, this is a different story than the one in Ohio where the kid killed himself. This was a good story, in as much that some other kid turned into his friend BEFORE anyone got hurt…

Posted by: stephanie | October 12, 2007, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

This is my daughter’s school. I am so very thankful that the suspect tried to recruit another student to ‘assist’ him in carrying out his planned attack. If he had not, we would have learned about this story after it was too late. It frightens me to think that my daughter and countless others could have been innocent victims in all this. Between the firearms and grenades he had, this could have been as bad (if not worse) than Columbine. It’s a scary world we live in.

Posted by: Cheryll | October 12, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

We expect children to put up with abuse in school that we as adults would never tolerate in the workplace or anywhere else. They are told to ignore the taunts and physical abuse and really have no where to turn. This does not condone planned attacks on schools, but something has to be done to help these kids who endure the bullying.

Posted by: Jo Anne Wolf | October 12, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

I agree with everyone that the mother & the son are to blamed but everyone is
overlooking how all this started. How about making ‘bullying’ a crime, too.
The boy may just be reacting to the past when he was being bullied & now wants to get even. BULLYING SHOULD ALSO BE TREATED AS A CRIME.

Posted by: ED | October 12, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Where is this kids FATHER?

Posted by: Tony | October 12, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Of every last poster here. Have any of you even READ the news piece in question? There was only ONE FIREARM, a 9mm carbine. All the rest were AIRSOFT. Replicas that fire plastic BBs. They don’t even hit hard enough to break the skin. So, reign in your righteous indignation and think logically for a change. One gun, some home made bombs. Laws broken? Undoubtedly. Illegal transfer of firearms? Maybe. Columbine in the offing? get real. The kid didn’t even have any ammo. This is a prosecutor grandstanding, and a neighbor kid and dad out to look like heroes. Oh well, maybe this boy will get the attention and help he needs.

Posted by: Ashamed | October 12, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Speaking as an alumni of this High School, I have to say that Plymouth Whitemarsh is the last place I would have ever expected to see something like this happen. It’s sad really, to see how far society has fallen after the events of Columbine. I do hope that the boy gets the help that he needs, and if he’s tried as an adult, then so be it. I strongly believe that America needs to start holding people accountable for their actions, instead of saying “oh it’s okay” all the time. It’s not okay, and we as a society need to stop being nice about everything and stop censoring the harsh truths facing us.
That being said, I think his parents should take the fall for not guiding this child, and allowing his life to spiral out of control as it did. America’s problems start at home. We’ve lost the “family” relationships that we need in order to develop into successful adults. I hope this kid’s parents get theirs, because without guidance and a relationship with a healthy parent, he was a lost cause from day 1.

Posted by: Jeramie | October 12, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Some of you are confusing your stories- the boy in this story did not get a chance to attack the school as he was arrested beforehand. You’re confusing it with the school shooting in Ohio- that student injured several people and then killed himself.

Posted by: TRUDY | October 12, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

in addition to needing help for emotional problems. BULLYING MUST STOP ! ! ! The bullies are also at fault. Bullies are not nice people.

Posted by: Mountain Dew | October 12, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Sorry Melba, wrong story … this boy is still very much alive. This planned attack was prevented by concerned “friend” and his father. They are heroes in my book. You are likely confusing this story with the one out of Ohio.
As for the mother – shame on her. As an adult, she should know better. I hope she doesn’t see the light of day for a long, long time. And as for the boy, he should do time but I also hope he gets the help he needs, psychologically.

Posted by: Susan | October 12, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Folks need to get down to the root problem. I got my first air rifle when I was 4 years old… my first 22 rifle when I was 6, and my first shotgun when I was 9…. I got a 30.06 when I was 14 and to this day, I have NEVER thought about shooting ANYONE… even if I was very mad or upset with them. Parents are to blame with ALL that is going on. Come on people… teach your children right and wrong.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

I really hope that American people see ‘right to bear arms’ notion is destroying us.

Posted by: friend | October 12, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Wow. Mom needs as much help as the boy does; give em lots of psychological counsiling; maybe the boy needs a new home as well.

Posted by: j | October 12, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Is this mother informed the school’s principal about the bullying? There is a lot of kids killing themselves because they can take the bullying and the school’s principals doesn’t do anything about it. Me as a principal I will press charges against any bully and send his/hers bad self to jail to see if after meeting with Big Bobba will change their behavoir. Big to fight? Big to do time in jail. We are raising nothing but ignorant, no moral values kids. If I’m the parent of my bullied kid, I will sue the principal and press criminal charges on those punks kids. They need a good weeping!!!
Don’t blame the bullied kid. Maybe he/she sees no help coming and think that is the only answer.

Posted by: aurywatchdog | October 12, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

There is a mountain of evidence to suggest that children raised by single mothers are at an increased risk for virtually every social problem you can think of — poverty, crime, drug use, etc. If we hope to save families, we need to rally around fathers or incidents like this will increase.

Posted by: EJF Member | October 12, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

OK,
Where do I start.. At the risk of sounding redneckish, I am not a qualified psychologist nor a family therapist. However, there are certain qualities and physical characteristics that are congruent and directly attributable to the behaviour of the mother and child in this case. Additionally, stereotypic and slanderization is expected in any responses to this post.
I will boil it down to a simple rue… EDUCATION, and family values, of which obviously neither the parent or child had any (very unfortunate) kids tend to mimic what the see and what thier elders and peers do and say ( not to mention beliefs and actions).
PARENTS.. your kids will become YOU.. or worse unless they have educated and meaningfull influences in thier life.
Can you fault the mother YES…. and NO she obviously has has no preemptiveness in her life to educate her (and her son) that semi-automatic weapons are not appropriate for those under 21 or those deficient of professional and ethical training. Additionally, nor was there any clear indication that the social systems around this individual had a grasp that clearly derived that severe social issues were buried in this young lad.
All of these events that have truncated this blog mortally depress me. Bottom line… we all are responsible for our actions and those with whom we educate, do wrong pay the price, imparte knowlege to someone who acts on your decisions and actions, guess what, you! should suffer the obvious consequence’s of your wykehamist.
This truly saddens me as a parent, please all educate your children from right and wrong… read to them!!! such a simple thing.. I guess if you can read.

Posted by: aaron r | October 12, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

The mother needs to be put away as well.
Who buys guns for their kids? Is this the way of the future? Put the mother and kid away in different rooms they both need to go. And don’t blame it on being a single mother. There are some fine single parents who raise
their children correctly. I’m one of them. My children are examples to others. I’ve very proud of them.

Posted by: Carol | October 12, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Most of this kids guns where bb guns. He had 3 actual firearms, The picture showing his guns is misleading. The “grenades” he had where homemade. I doubt putting the mother in jail will help this kids emotional state ( he is NOT dead ). He also never actually did anything but make a plan, he was no longer even attending school anymore at the time. Kids plan goofy fantasys all the time. Those that call for his or his mothers death are hate filled fools.

Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2007, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

We have children, we protect them, we raise them to become decent and good adults, how the hell can this mom raise her son to be a killer? She has serious problems here.

Posted by: Angry Mom | October 12, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

As a normal gun rights owner. The boy needs more guns.

Posted by: Normal | October 12, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Good Lord,what did she think she doing ? This kid had a Hx. of troubles,including cruelty to animals. I’m very glad the cops are pressing charges.They should in all of these cases.The kid in Cleveland all but had a sign around his neck.Long Hx of domestic violence,guns,juvenile offenses,etc He was allowed to wear “Goth” clothes,trench coats,all black “Marilyn Manson” garb. The video yesterday from the classromm showed out of control kids,not listening to the teacher,yelling,laughing etc.They all had cell phones IN school.In my state backpacks are checked every day for I-pod’s phones etc,they are confiscated,and held for the parents to pick-up.We also have a dress code,no sagging bagging clothes, no “logo” stuff except shoes. That has made a world of difference in behavior. These adults in these families should be held accountable for this tragedy,and prosecuted. All the “adults” in these kid’s lives failed them.Parents,teachers,and the courts.When will this end ? How many times does it have to happen ?

Posted by: Sharon White | October 12, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Excuse me Mark,
The right to bear arms is a very important ammendement. Towns where guns are illegal is where the most crime is. Would you like to rob someones house with a gun? I think not. Our ammendment is not the problem. It’s the parents.

Posted by: Shelby | October 12, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

To EJF Member – it’s more like the fathers need to rally round the kids – and the numbers are because so many fathers don’t bear their responsibility to their children at all.

Posted by: Momvar | October 12, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

EJF Member~ I was a single mother until I got married a year ago. My 14 year old daughter is also a student of this high school. She is one of the kindest, most level headed, well-adjusted teenagers I know…and would NEVER think to do something like this. Don’t lump all single mothers into one stereotypical category.
And, the father is in the picture with this family (he’s the one that let police in when they presented the search warrant on Wednesday ight)…they just haven’t reported a lot about him.

Posted by: Cheryll | October 12, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

The mother was probably teased as well when she was young. She looks very unstable herself and probably living her revenge through her son for what was done to her as a little doughgirl.

Posted by: Andy | October 12, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

This child needs psychological help not a 30 year jail sentence.Save that sentence for his idiot parents who thought it was better to buy their child a semi-automatic weapon instead of a book or they could have placed him in any after school program that would allow for him to make some friends and become sociable.they were raising the perfect unibomber.It’s time to hold all parents found neglectfully raising these children responsible, and that goes across the board.Not just for these fools but for all fools whose offspring murder.

Posted by: atteberry | October 12, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

TO SHELBY: Please cite you statistics. Where on Gods green earth did you pull that statistic from.. “places where guns are illegal have the highest crime rate then those places where it’s legal” That statistic doesn’t even makes sense at all. Please show us where we can find that. I think that’s just hog wash you’re trying to spew out to “win” an argument.

Posted by: Andy | October 12, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

As a member of the community where this is happening…and parent of a student in the school, you should know that there is more to this story than all of you are hearing. The kid had other weapons and ammunition stashed with family and neighbors. So, please don’t use the ‘he didn’t have any ammo so there wasn’t a real threat’ line. He did and there was a very real threat.
I’m curious how your opinion on this would change if this was your kid’s school.

Posted by: Cheryll | October 12, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Excuse me Shelby,
You need to read one paragraph back. I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s not the children or the availabilty of guns… it’s the ignorance of the people that get their hands on them without the guidance of a responsible adult…. or the ignorance of the adult that allows the child to get their hands on them…
please read my post

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Under federal law you must be 21 or older to purchase a handgun and 18 or older to purchase a rifle or shotgun. That is to keep 14 year olds from having firearms. That is why his mother is going to jail for “unlawful transfer of a firearm, possession of a firearm by a minor, corruption of a minor, endangering the welfare of a child and two counts of reckless endangerment”. We as a society, including those of us who think the 2nd Amendment is just as important as the other nine, have agreed that it is reckless and stupid to allow a 14 year old to have a firearm unsupervised. This is no different than a parent buying their kid booze and giving them the keys to the car. Either scenario will likely result in serious damage or death to one or more persons.
I am horrified that a parent let a minor child have that many air guns let alone an actual firearm. However, this incident says nothing about the 2nd Amendment. It says that stupid people shouldn’t breed and that if they do, they and their offspring are a danger to society. You just can’t fix stupid…

Posted by: Deepdiver | October 12, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

It’s the AMOUNT of firearms this boy had, whether it be 27 airguns and 3 firearms, who cares. He’s 14 years old for Godsake, why does he have such a large arsenol for such a young boy? Doesn’t matter what type of firearms they are, it’s the amount that the judge is going to consider and how the boy felt he was going to use them against his classmates. He was obviously not mature enough to handle a BB gun, let alone a 9MM, hand grenades, etc.

Posted by: Sarah | October 12, 2007, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Air rifles are BB guns. No real life threat there. But for the 9mm and 22′s, thats a whole differnt story. Good job on the person who turn him in.

Posted by: James | October 12, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

To the anonymous poster who claims that all children are inherently good and become psychopaths soley because they are given a lollipop – HUH??????? Yes, diets in America are atrocious and we owe it to our children to serve them healthy foods but the problem is just a TAD more complicated than 4 square meals and an apple a day.
I agree with other posters that it is far past time when parents like this should be held accountable. This woman needs to lose parental custody and go to prison & the son needs psychiatric help in an inpt facility – possibly into his adult years. How did he get the rest of his arsenal???

Posted by: alice | October 12, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

It was the right to bear arms that gave each of you freedom to post to this blog. It’s not that the guns became more dangerous, it’s just that we have more idiots in this country. Natural selection would have taken most of you folks out long time ago.

Posted by: TJ | October 12, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

i think his mother is crazy for getting all those guns and where was she getting this gun becouse if it was from a shop they had to question her for buying all those guns.

Posted by: lilly | October 12, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Isnt the second ammendment great…the funny thing is if this kid had gone along with this the mother would have sued the state for its law enforcement gunning down this little punk…good thing they got to him first…

Posted by: Maximus | October 12, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

I feel the mother is totally irresponsible – I also realize that maybe Mom was threatened by her son; however, any mother that would purchase guns for a 14 year old; especially when he has an arsenal of weapons already – the mothers’ rights should be terminated and the boy sent away to get help.

Posted by: Sandy | October 12, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

So where did the other 27 guns come from? Score one for the NRA!!!

Posted by: steve | October 12, 2007, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

When my sons were 10 years old, they got their first .22 rifles from me… their first high power hunting rifles when they were 14 and their first handguns when they turned 16. It was bound to have lasting effects… they both ended up joining the National Rifle Association and then United States Army.

Posted by: Dutch | October 12, 2007, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

1st question, are those “real” guns? Answer is yes. They are a device or tool that shoots a projectile under pressure. As does a staple gun, a paint gun, or a squirt gun.
2nd question, aren’t those guns dangerous? Answer – The 9mm carbine (which isn’t a handgun like the article suggests) could be a dangerous if SOMEONE makes it so. By itself laying on a table it isn’t any more dangerous than a hammer or a glass of water. Without any bullets, this gun is more dangerous as a club than as a gun. The rest of the “arsenal” was plastic low-power airsoft BB gun toys. These aren’t the BB guns you might remember from your youth. These barely shoot a soft plastic BB (not hard metal BBs or pellets) across the room. They aren’t high powered air rifles (which CAN be dangerous if SOMEONE uses it in that way). These are spring loaded toys much like the suction cup dart gun toys from the 70′s.
3rd question is shouldn’t gun shows be illegal since that’s where the 9mm came from? Answer is no. A gun show is no different than going to a sporting goods store to buy a gun. You still have to fill out the same legal paperwork and background checks. The only advantage to someone shopping at a gun show is the prices tend to be cheaper because of competition between selling dealers.
What DOES concern me is this kid was making bombs out of explosive black powder and fireworks fuses. The live “hand grenade” he had was one he made.
I feel safe in saying that NO ONE would have wanted this kid to have done anything tragic. Kudos to the friend who alerted the authorities of this kid’s schemes. Kudos to the authorities for stepping in and stopping the planning from continuing. I hope the boy gets the help he needs.
Shame on all the news agencies for misleading people into thinking this kid had accumulated $200,000 worth of illegal assault weapons that are extremely rare. That photo of the “arsenal” is excessively misleading. Shame on the school for allowing the bullying of the kid in the first place. Shame on some of you blog posters for politicising this story. It isn’t about guns. Stop being ignorant. Blaming guns is just an easy way of ignoring the real problem. Dig deeper and ask why this kid wanted to do something violent. That is the real issue that needs to be solved.

Posted by: NRA member | October 12, 2007, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

All of the “evil looking guns” in the pictures were toys. He only had one rifle at his house and two other firearms at someone else’s house according to the article. I don’t know about Pennsylvania laws, but possession of hand grenades and minors possessing a handgun are violations of federal law.
I have one son that is interested in guns and hunting. I gave him his first .22 rifle for Christmas when he was 10. Gave him a 12 gauge shotgun the following spring. Gave an SKS with a bayonet to him when he was 13. He had always wanted a WASR-10 (semi-auto AK-47) but I told him that he could not have one. He was 14 when the Democrats took over Congress. The first thing that I did was to give him a WASR-10 because there was a high probability that he would never be able to purchase one for himself with all of the goodies like pistol grip, bayonet, muzzle brake, and high capacity magazines. He has acquired a couple of other guns along the way and is now 15 and has more long guns than I do. This Christmas, I may get him a Mosin-Nagant M91/30 which was a Russian battle rifle. Each one has a purpose for him, none of which is to kill humans. Have your ever opened a can with an AK-47? It is quite impressive.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

“So where did the other 27 guns come from? ” Please pay attention. They were not firearms. They were air soft guns, ie toys. There is no federal control of air soft guns and only a few PC states and cities control them.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2007, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

It seems to escape a lot of commentators here that some people are way beyond negligent; they are insanely antisocial. This mother has serious mental problems herself, obviously. The boy hasn’t had a chance. Still, I’m not defending him. Neither of them should be let loose on society.

Posted by: Karen | October 12, 2007, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Some of the comments made here are as frightening as the story!
I had a menta picture of the parent, which turned out to be nearly identical to the photo of his mother. Imagine that! You can’t tell me that she hasn’t watched TV, meaning that what she was doing was supporting the very behavior she must have seen on the news. That makes her even more stupid!
I’ll bet she was under the control of that juvenile monster. Look at her, does she look to be in control of anything?

Posted by: Scott Buchele | October 12, 2007, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

just sad period. Sad, because this child needs so much help and who is going to help him? Where is the father?

Posted by: Janeyre | October 13, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am

What’s with the “possession of a firearm as a minor”? Does that mean that a 16 year old farm kid that hunts by himself is breaking some one size fits all, urban based gun law? That shows how our rights are eroding by the hour. My grandfather was given a gun at ten and told to hunt. It was perfectly acceptable. Enter liberalism, and today some warped commie thinks this is a crime.

Posted by: patrick henry | October 13, 2007, 1:36 am 1:36 am

HELLO, isnt it a sad state of affairs when u get stories confused about school kids gone wild.
it was the ohio boy that killed himself, now in pa,
u have a crazy kid w/ at least one crazy parent.
i’m not against stable adults owning guns, but when a parent buys one for an unstable 14 year old, put the blame where it belongs,
instead of the aww poor kid got bullied. i was a teacher for several years and trust me when i say that in overcrowded schhols, its impossible almost to help every child from getting bullied or teased. i’d say this kid has more severe problems then just being bullied.
his main problem is spelled MOMMY!!

Posted by: stef | October 13, 2007, 2:24 am 2:24 am

What is wrong with the mother? I do not blame the boy at all. It all stems from his upbringing. If I knew my child had psychological problems, of course the first thing I would do is buy him weapons. Come on! Some people should just not be allowed to ever procreate in this world.

Posted by: Patti | October 13, 2007, 8:48 am 8:48 am

Blaming guns for a situation like this is as intelligent and well-thought as faulting Budweiser if an adullt purchases a pony keg for their teenager’s beach party.

Posted by: Dutch | October 13, 2007, 8:58 am 8:58 am

I am the mother of one such “disturbed” kid. He had learning disabilities that lead to severe depression once he left elementary school to the “loving arms” of his middle school. The teacher was frustrated and overwhelmed and overworked with too many kids, a harried home life to which she aluded often, and unable to actually do much educating. The classes were actually pitted against one another in some sort of attempt to encourage them to “win” by test scores. This arrangement, rather than leading to a positive outcome, actually caused children of the different classes to tease, taunt and harrass children of less academically successful classes. My child became withdrawn in class…his teacher encouraged the others to tease
“Johnny” when he didn’t score as high as others and brought down the classes score. He stopped participating all together. We began working with a councilor outside of the school who only wanted to give him drugs. He refused to sign the waver to take the medication, so couldn’t participate in the program. AND BELIEVE ME, every effort to get him to participate short of forgery was tried.
At some point, you can NOT physically, as a parent – FORCE a fourteen year old child who is bigger, stronger and more stubborn than you to accept such things. I am NOT a supid, over weight, ignorant woman. I have a medical back ground and am keenly aware of nutritional and psycological issues.
Our family IS an oddity in this society. We are intact, no divorce, or abuse. Our home is clean, we don’t need public assistance to provide shelter or groceries. We are employed and have a good work ethic. We have two physically healthy children, both with exceptionally high I.Q. scores, AND we have an emotionally and mentally damaged child.
What I could not control, dispite constant interaction with my child’s teacher and education team, was the bullying, taunts, and pain that being an outsider causes. I watched my child go from being a successful elementary student to a withdrawn, angry, self-hating, depressed studen, and YES, and Danger to himself and others.
Face it folks, SCHOOL and the school system often is the most frightening, frustrating and dangerous place some young people will ever have to face in their whole lives. Frankly, because I have an older son that THRIVED in the school system, I am aware that not all kids will face that kind of fear and frustration, but for a handful of children, their academic lives will haunt them and live in their memory as the worst part of their lives forever.
You can’t tell me that at least SOME of you posters haven’t had incidents in you life during your school years where you were either the bully or you were bullied. Be honest…and THINK about that.
So as a Mother, you do what you can. If that means home schooling, that is what you do. If that means that your child will at least get out of bed and dress, you allow black clothing. If music give your child some sort of relief, you learn to deal with the hard rythms and angry lyrics coming from your childs room. You accept that the only thing that he shows any interest in are swords, knives, and the like, and allow him some freedom to chose those things if he will at least show some interest in something other than living in a dark room with the windows covered and the only light being the t.v. screen with the sound off. At some point, you can only hope that you still have time on your side and that someday things will get better. That he will grow to understand the source of his pain and allow someone to help overcome it.
At some point, someone has to realize that as a damaged fourteen year old, this child is still unable to understand the consequences of his behavior. He is somewhere between a child crying in his room and a young adult carrying enough anger and frustration that he wants it to end and has the means at his disposal.
Law inforcement is not there to bring him or his Mother to mental health professinals. Their job is to uphold the law and bring this family to “justice.” They can be ordered to seek mental health care, but will not provide it. There will not be rehabilitation of this family, just a serving of the law as it stands, and eventually a more damaged woman and child will be either turned loose back into their community where they will be more ostrasized than ever, or they will remain incarcerated, ever learning only to survive in a pittiless institution.
Be careful what you wish for folks. It’s not a situation with an easy solution. You have the right to your opinions, but think it through. WHAT do you really want the outcome to be in this and other cases like it?
Just my opionion…

Posted by: JMS | October 13, 2007, 9:02 am 9:02 am

(1) If your kid gets bulliedt here’s going to be emotional damage and ahorrifying revenge attack (2) Both the mother and the school should have taken steps to get him help.
The kid knows what he did was wrong but someone needs to help kids get their anger out in a constructive way before it turns into something like this.

Posted by: Ashley | October 13, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am

I think it is time for everyone to take bullying very seriously. How can anyone take repeated verbal bashing without being harmed by viscous negativity. I do agree that the boy should have had professional counseling, and it was not a smart move on his mother’s part to have guns at his disposal at all. With that said, those who terrorized this boy to the point of destruction should also reap the consequences of their negative actions. They need counseling as much as the boy did. Whomever came up with “sticks and stones” was obviously never bullied.

Posted by: Linda | October 13, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am

We bought our kids guns at an early age and taught them how to use them. They were also not allowed to touch them without an adult present. A gun is a huge responsibility and if a parent is not prepared to take that responsibility on she does indeed deserve punishment.

Posted by: dori clute | October 13, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

Firstly, not all of the guns were ‘real’. All but 1 or 2 were high powered BB guns, so things have been blown out of proportion there. Secondly, the guns were most likely his mothers, of which he was allowed to use under controlled conditions, and one day he managed to steal them from the house without her noticing. As for his myspace and violent images, I have his myspace, and it isn’t exactly threatening. He’s a teenage boy, he’s inclined to like violent images. As for the hand grenades, he has one, which is more than likely a tube of gasoline with a rag in the top, obviously dangerous, but the media image of him having some kind of stock pile of high class weapons is laughable. He may well have been planning a shooting, but the point is he is a child, he didn’t specifically plan anything, and hasn’t broken a law, so technically he has to be let go.

Posted by: joe | October 14, 2007, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

For some reason people seem to be concentrating on guns and forgetting about the bombs. Why is that? Has the media somehow convinced us that murder can only be committed with guns, or that it’s somehow worse to be shot than to be blown up? Is it somehow preferable to be blown into a million pieces or being burned alive or buried alive in a fallen building? Why do we fear guns more than bombs? Why are guns more of an issue than the mental stability of a boy apparently raised without benefit of a father? … As long as our society permits men to father children without being fathers we will continue to have problems. As long as uncles, grandfathers or even neighbors are failing to become father figures we will have problems. Look at statistics. Most criminal acts are perpetrated by young men without fathers or without active fathers. Many men are failing to meet their responsibilities, thus failing to be men.

Posted by: Royce | October 14, 2007, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Please tell me you didn’t just play the family values card there. The fact that he has a dad has nothing whatsoever to do with this. The original columbine shooters both came from loving backgrounds, and both made a point of commenting on this. We aren’t talking about some inner-city kid from a broken home who’s fallen into gang-lifestyle and drugs. We’re talking about a depressed suburban kid looking for an outlet.

Posted by: joe | October 15, 2007, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Education is the key. She failed to educate this boy properly, and failed to remove the guns once he demonstrated irresponsible behavior. I had gind when I was a boy, along w/ knives and other stuff. But that doesn’t mean you just go out and give any kid a firearm. I was educated, and trained to handle them, and that makes all the difference in the world.

Posted by: VeteranD | October 15, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

“Anonymous | Oct 12, 2007″
Where is your source? If there was a study, it would be published, wouldn’t it?
Regarding the “today’s parents,” there were crazy parents in the old times as well. The past had its Jesse Pomeroys and other unsavory characters…

Posted by: Vincent O. Moh | October 16, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am

I never said all anything. Many boys raised in single parent homes grow up fine. A lot of violent criminals come from seemingly stable homes. Frank and Jessie’s father was a minister! What I am saying is, the single parent home seems to be a commonality among most of today’s violent criminals. Usually described as a “devout single mother” as soon as there is trouble. … Since the “Columbine shooters” were making bombs without their parents knowledge I have serious doubts that Mom and Dad were very involved in Jr.’s life. Suburban, rural or Beverly Hills kids with both parents at home can be ignored and lack good parenting. That’s where the “seemingly stable” part comes in. It’s in the news every day. ….

Posted by: Royce | October 16, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

I started to read and realize some of you must of been the bullies I had to go to school with. I was underweight and very small. One, the law to be able to discipline a child has been taken from the parents, so the public get’s children that have no adult respect, and I’m not talking about beating a child into submission. I’m talking about spanking 1-3 times on the butt, where God gave us padding for this to happen. And then I woudl sit down with a child and ask them if they knew why I did the spanking. If they didn’t I would use simple terms and then I would tell them, even though I had to spank them, I still loved them and always would and back it up with a hug. And the children while under my care. Never got beat EVER and Never would. But, most of them never forgot how we loved them with a small tap. But, once the child knew the rules, we usually didn’t have to do anything. The children of the earth need bounderies and rules, but they also need real love and caring. They need people that take time to listen to them and yes, the young man need’s some counceling and yes, Mom need’s some parenting class. BUT, the people that take the right’s of a parent away need to reverse this, since it hasn’t made the earth any better to live in since they outlawed the hand to butt education. It worked on us, and I also almost went over the edge in my 8th grade when I was tormented everyday. I ended up with a severe nervous problem and still have it, but have learned to not let it control me. But, I give the glory to God for this. He is the one that helps daily with my life. Before pointing at someones stick in their eye, pluck out your own telephone pole out of yours. Maybe everyone would see better.

Posted by: Musgrove, Ted | October 16, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I know what you went through Ted. I had the same problem. Short and we were always moving around so I was always the “new kid”. I finally learned to fight and how to take a punch. While violence is not the best answer, it does work.

Posted by: Royce | October 16, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

way to go, she should be in jail for trying to help her son kill people.

Posted by: Shelby | October 17, 2007, 9:28 am 9:28 am

We should all be listening to Bill Cosby! It’s the parents who need to step forward, step up, and step on their kids. After my 3 yr old was dismissed from 4 consecutive daycares because of the liabilities as a result of his “strong will”, I was told by the pediatrician, “If you can’t get this behavior under control you’ll follow him throughout his childhood.” He’s 22, now and I’m still working with him! I hate having to be that type parent, but with no self-controls of his own, no respect for authority, as a single parent it’s been my only means to guide him. What’s happening to our youth?

Posted by: CJMedlin | October 19, 2007, 5:08 am 5:08 am

“instead of the aww poor kid got bullied. i was a teacher for several years and trust me when i say that in overcrowded schhols, its impossible almost to help every child from getting bullied or teased. i’d say this kid has more severe problems then just being bullied.”
Doubtful, most teachers don’t write like that, sorry.
And I’m saddened by several people’s responses to how bullying is just a victim’s pity party. Apparently you were never on the end of a bully. Whether it be physical or mental, it hurts, especially when you are a hormonal teen trying to find your place in this world.
I have a son whose hearing impaired in Middle School, who I’ve worry day and night about him having to deal with bullies, so far he’s had no problems, we are fortunate that he has such a positive sunny disposition. However, if he were to be bullied for needing assistance to hear, would you all really tell him to get a life? That it’s his own fault? To take karate? Please, that’s just validating bullies and making it the norm. Bullying needs to be stopped, and parents need to take control of their kids again.
What he tried to do is horrible and there is no excuse. I would be terrified if my children went to that school. But let’s get to the root of the problem, so we can make sure this doesn’t happen at another school.
It’s not a guns fault, nor more than it’s a cars fault that the driver is a speeder and kills someone. It’s not the cars or the beers fault that someone drinks and drives. How about we blame the human that can think and not the inatimate object. People get stabbed, should we do away with our steak knives?
Mom & Dad in this case have alot of explaining to do. I hope the young man can get the help he needs so that maybe he can function in society.

Posted by: LCD | October 19, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

This situation, if nothing else, provides a nice slice of humanity (USA style) to examine. After examining my feelings about the mother/son dual offenders I expected to find scorching disdain, outrage, vindication, and a whole slew of righteous conclusions. What I really came up with was just a sickening feeling of gut-wrenching sorrow. These two people are trapped in a maelstrom of distorted emotions and reality. Why does one need an arsenal? Why would one supply one?
Like an earlier post-er (Dutch, use your ESP, figure out my number, and call me!!) I see other sides to this. It’s rarely ever just that mom is fat, there’s no structure in the house, no dad in the house, they eat twinkies for breakfast, and the like. Intrinsic personality has a place in this mix, too.
My child has always been interested in guns, swords, bombs, assorted weaponry, and anything that does some damage. I appreciate it, too! To this little one, the military seems like Disneyland. What I know, is that my little one also feels powerless, on the outside of things, bullied, and stupid. These things together mean that he/she will not get to indulge his/her passion for munitions. It is inappropriate to arm a child like this, because yes, VULNERABLE is basically tattooed on his/her forehead. Often, but not always, these kids are impulsive, bright, and have a couple of social issues to wrestle with. That kid should NOT be in a house with weapons, nor have them supplied.
It is exhausting to try to stay ahead of this personality and parent it. I am head over heels in love with my kid, but that doesn’t mean that I can/will slack off in my dilligence, because I make the difference. Some parents may not believe this, or have the ability/skills to do anything about it. I’m not sure I do either! I just know that it’s my responsibility, so if I can’t figure it out, I get help, and I never stop trying. That mom who wrote that her son is in his twenties and she’s still working with him? That’s my idea of a great parent. Societally and personally I will support her in any way I can. Of course we want them self managing, but if they need more time to mature and develop (often until 25-30), then do it. And get lots of help!

Posted by: Sugartobi | October 20, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Please stop calling these folks names. They’re already in a world of hurt, and who knows WHAT’S going on with them.

Posted by: anita | October 20, 2007, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Since when is it illegal to buy guns for your kid? I had a shotgun when I was 13 years old. Went hunting alone in the woods.
Been shooting since I was 6 yrs old. Same with my brother and sister. None of us shot people. Kids that are taught to respect guns and human life do not shoot people.
Every parent should buy their kid a gun and show them how to use it correctly.

Posted by: Denno | October 20, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

GUNS DON”T KILL PEOPLE>>PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE…..SET A GUN DOWN AND IT WILL DO NOTHING BUT COLLECT DUST A RUST UNTIL SOME DUMB $$$ PICKS IT UP AND SHOOTS IT. SAME WITH A KNIFE…BASEBALL BAT… SPOON….HELL LET’S OUTLAW EVERYTHING…I HAT STUPID PEOPLE.

Posted by: NO NAME | October 22, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am

To POSTER ALICE: The second amendment gave ADULTS the right to bear arms. NOT children. Get your laws straight completely.
To POSTER STEVE: You gave two underage children access to a weapon. One is now a member of the NRA, and the other the U.S. military. Some of our country’s best soldiers have NEVER handled a weapon before joining the military, so you got lucky with that one. And for the other son – thanks: we now have ONE MORE person who will defend having an arsenal of weapons as harmless because they hide be hide the second amendment. Just tell him and Cooter and the boys to stay the hell away from my house.
The point? The child should have NEVER had access to, nor possess ANY gun. I do agree with some that he needs help. ALOT of help. His mother needs a prison number and a cell mate with a nick name “Big Momma”. It is the responsibility of a parent to have sense. It is the responsibility of the school administration to have the tact to immediate attack and put out those responsible for bullying. And for the kid who told on his friend: good job kid – you probably WON’T join the NRA.

Posted by: A Citizen of Many | October 22, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Guns are not the problem. Our culture of “instant gratification” is…When we start taking responsibility for our actions then our kids will learn from us.

Posted by: TAG_DET5 | October 23, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Maybe the kid stole the guns from the mother? But it doesn’t matter because it’s not illegal. Why not feel bad for the mother or kid? To the people saying she should do alot of time; Why? I’m pretty sure she wasn’t involved with the plans to kill people. So who is really to blame? Why pin it on the mother?

Posted by: Read | October 25, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

I don’t belive that she planed to attack a high school, but that she buy guns and this stuff for her son that’s stupid. I hope they become good psychological help. And I hope the school don’t have a to big shock because of this.

Posted by: swissy | November 1, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

did she have to go to the prison? When for how long?

Posted by: swissy | November 2, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

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