Clinton Compares Obama to a Blank Screen
ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: In a Nightline interview with ABC’s Cynthia McFadden, Sen. Hillary Clinton, when asked about the Barack Obama phenomenon, used a quote from Obama to describe her opponent. "I think the best description actually is in Barack’s own book" Clinton said, "where he said that he is a blank screen and people of widely different views project what they want to hear." Clinton continued saying "he just hasn’t been around long enough." Clinton continued saying "But with the blank screen it gives you a chance to just really infuse it with whatever you hope for, whatever you want without knowing."
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
Clinton was asked her reaction to the many women around this country who say they feel sorry for her. "I think a lot of woman project their own feelings in their lives on to me." Clinton stressed that it is a hard what she is doing but she gets up every day and thinks about what she is going to do – not dwelling on past mistakes, or what will happen if she loses Texas or Ohio.
When asked if Clinton was surprised by the outcome of how the race has shaped up, Clinton said she wasn’t but "he might be, because I think that he believed that he could, once he won Iowa, wrap it up. Then I won New Hampshire" Clinton said. When pressed on how she ever hated being treated as the front runner – Clinton complained that nothing has changed. "I’m still being treated like that – in terms of people coming after me."
Clinton says that she doesn’t listen to the pundits or the commentary about the race. "Everywhere I go people say ‘Don’t give up, don’t give up, stay with this.’" Clinton said, "There is something going on here."
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OBAMA’S BAD JUDGEMENTS: 1) lets pull out of Iraq now and go back in tomorrow. 2) lets bomb pakistan without their consent if we find that alqeada is there….no considerations that pakistan is a nuclear weapon owner 3) voted ‘present’ when most of his colleagues fought to avoid sex shops from being set up next to schools 4) voted no when his colleagues tried to cap the credit card companies from raising rates 5) voted for the Chenney energy bill that has pilleage the tax payers money w/o much returns 6) opted to send out fliers noting a quote that his opponenent did not make 7) opted to partner up in a real estate deal with a man under investigation of political fixing and money laundering. 8) opted to take over 100K in donations from the same man who was still under investigation for political fixing and money laundering. 9) opted to sustain a spiritual counseling relationship with a pastor who had proclaimed that his hero is L Farakan who promotes hate against whites and jews. 10) opted to criticize oppenents of having close proximity with lobbyist when he had regular basketball games and poker games with lobbyist while in the IL legislature. OBAMA’S GOOD JUDGEMENT: 1)….But he made a speech against the Iraq war. Summary: One mediocre judgement do not equal “good judgement”
Posted by: alison | February 28, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Wow…She continues to amaze me with her arrogance and lack of humility…
The beauty of an article like this is that Clinton supporters can’t say that she has been “mistreated” by the media…
However, Clinton supporters will continue to make rude and disparaging remarks about Barack in 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1…..
Posted by: Cali Democrat | February 28, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
REAL CHANGE: After being ruled for 232 years by men, the only REAL CHANGE would be to have a woman rule the United States…. that’s the only real change that can be. So if anyone is serious about change, the most legitimate action on its behalf would be to vote for a woman as the next president of the Unied States, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Posted by: Benjamin O'Hara | February 28, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Ben that is ridiculous…No one should be voting for Hillary because she is a woman, and no one should be voting for Barack because he is an African American…
The change that is needed is one from the past…No one can argue that Hillary is an instrument of partisan politics…
If that’s what you want then vote for Hillary, but don’t bring race and gender into this race…It’s 2008 for heaven’s sake, and we as a nation are better than that…
Posted by: Cali Democrat | February 28, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Hillary is so right on the issues and will bring this country forward and help the world..solutions not just empty words
Posted by: emmy | February 28, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
She’s right. Obama is an empty screen and I have turned the tv off.
Posted by: Robert John Kellogg | February 28, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Hillary Clinton is most qualified to lead this great country in the years ahead. She has the drive, dedication, and intelligence to steer what is the right course for our country. She has world stature and depth of experience that will serve her well in her next peoples’ duty as president of the United States.
Posted by: Paul Espinosa | February 28, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Again the zelous supporters of Obama are going to make this into a huge issue just like they did with that stupid picture. Barack Obama said it in his book that he was a BLANK SCREEN. So why are you guys tearing up Hillary for saying exactly what he said. Barack Obama’s campaign is not anything to Politics as Usual, it is THE WORST FORM OF POLITICS!
Posted by: Gabriel | February 28, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Quote from one of Obama’s own supporters.
“Obama has this almost irrational following and I myself can’t sometimes explain why I’m supporting him,” Noah Norman, 25, recently told the Washington Post.
“He’s all things to all men. At least that’s how I put it.”
Posted by: emo chalk | February 28, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Hillary Clinton is not an instrument of partisan politics. This is such a fallacy. Stop spewing the Republican propaganda of the 90s. Since being elected to the Senate, Republicanan and Democratic congress people universality praise her ability to work across the aisle for mutual, common goals.
And, race and gender are inherently in this campaign – it is in the air we breathe. Not everyone is enlightened enough to look past these issues yet, and to claim that it doesn’t exist is very naive. Those who don’t see it may need a sociology 101 course.
Posted by: Kelly | February 28, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
I’m so done with this. Why would I trust another status quo politician who helped make the mess we’re in now to clean it up? That’s insane and illogical. It goes against all common sense.
Posted by: kings2beat | February 28, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Look at the bizarre post below from “benjamin ohara.”
Does it not strike you as unsettling that Clinton folks want a “ruler” rather than a president? I mean, nobody “rules” the USA. Sorry, but that ain’t how this puppy operates. We have a constitution and a government of, by and for the people… not of, by, and for two rich, powerful and influential families. The campaign has revealed: her royal empress has no clothes. The whole idea of a ruler is pretty disturbing.
REAL CHANGE: After being ruled for 232 years by men, the only REAL CHANGE would be to have a woman rule the United States…. that’s the only real change that can be. So if anyone is serious about change, the most legitimate action on its behalf would be to vote for a woman as the next president of the Unied States, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Posted by: Kansas Jack | February 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
OK, Obama can dance…saw it for myself on Ellen’s show.
Posted by: Ariadne Green | February 28, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
RE: Women who say they feel sorry for Hillary, and they do not like her because…..
I once asked my sister-in-law why she doesn’t like Hillary and why some women do not like Hillary. Mind you, she does not vote, but her husband is a rabid Republican. I asked her and she had no answer. Then she fumbled around and said she just stayed with Bill because she wanted to be President. Women against women. I do not get it. Working women, expecially, know the double standards for women to have the same career choices open to men. I suspect that may be the problem for many women who do not think for themselves and have to express the opinions of their husbands. It’s a free country, isn’t it?
Posted by: georgia | February 28, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
And Clinton’s screen is full…of bad judgment (Iraq war vote, choice of husband, etc.), lousy management skills (her current campaign being the most recent and glaring example) and utter inability to effect legislation, not only on healthcare (where she claims to be an “expert” LOL) in 1993, but also in 7 years of shrill, divisive and polarizing posturing in the Senate. Thanks, but NO THANKS!
Posted by: Amy | February 28, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
His supporters tend to see whatever they want when looking at Barack Obama, and his opponents tend to see themselves. Hence Hillary Clinton says that he is inexperienced, and John McCain says that he is naive.
Posted by: Gail | February 28, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Hillary Clinton is the most qualified to run the country as long as leaders of other countries don’t gang up on her. That of course is not fair, after all, she’s a woman. As far as hypocrite Rush Limbaugh, anyone who is still listening to him ought to have their head examined or as least see if he still high on the drugs he was taking, while being critical of ” drug abusers “.
Posted by: fool me once | February 28, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Hillary is a hope for change. Both candidates represent a change in direction for this country. Hope, Change… they both bring it… Hillary also brings experience, knowledge, intensity, the will to fight. We are in for some hard times. In addition to hoping for change I need to know and trust. I know and trust Hillary more than I know/trust Barrack
Posted by: Chipo1965 | February 28, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Mrs. Clinton just need to go somwhere and hide herself. Who do she thank she is, when they was in the White House they brought disgrace to the US. She evil and she look evil. If she is nominated, I guaranteed you a lot of people will not vote Democrat, because we have had enough of the Clintons and Bushes.
Posted by: Janice | February 28, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
“Hillary Clinton is not an instrument of partisan politics. This is such a fallacy.”
Do you even know when and how the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy came to be?
Posted by: VWRC | February 28, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Does anyone other then me notice that Obama never says anything like this about her? Never. He responds when she attacks but never does he lower himself to this level. If anyone wonders why he keeps beating her, they need to consider that perhaps he is simply a better person.
Posted by: Sam | February 28, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Sam, I guess the whining comment, and the claws coming out comments aren’t attacks on her. He really is simply a better person.
Posted by: dc | February 28, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
I fear for this country IF Barack Hussein Obama—a former Muslim—is elected as our leader.
Posted by: saunders | February 28, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Hillary has launched an attack campaign against her opponent because Hillary is trying to look good by putting her opponent down. I prefer to hear Hillary use that time to finish her tax return and open her taxes to the public. Why does Hillary not talk about Nafta issues to the good people in Ohio?
Over and Over, Hillary has not learned that the negative campaign does not work…it is just a waste of time and an insult to the voters. I can make up my mind, I do not need Hillary tell me why I should not vote for her opponent. I rather have Hillary tell me why I should vote for her…. Is the negative campaign being used to cover up empty minds??? Hillary does not understand that the negative strategy will not bring her back.
Posted by: GLO | February 28, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
GLO: What exactly are these negative attacks? Can you be more specific?
Posted by: pdto | February 28, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
People really need to examine why Hillary is blaming EVERYONE except herself for her rapid decline in the polls and for 11 straight losses in a row. When she is President and running the country into the ground is she going to try and lay the blame at everyone else as well? In the debate the other night on MSNBC, she was asked why she was unable to produce the 500,000 jobs she promised she would create for the state of NY when running for the Senate in 2000. There was a net 35,000 LOSS in jobs and she blamed Al Gore for NOT getting elected. How sad is that?!?!?
Posted by: Brent | February 28, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
I’ve heard that many times GLO, I think you’re late to postings. Obama is always the victims why? Because the media is bias. They only show when people attack him, but they don’t show when he attacks them.
Point in point — look at his false accusation in his circulation of Hillary. Which, I might add has been “denounced” by his sources.
Why was less time spent on that? Obviously, because of the MEDIA.
Posted by: Sebastian | February 28, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
The same way Obama critizes what’s happening in Afganistan and yet hasn’t held one meeting of the sub-committee he chairs on dealing with these issues because he’s been a little busy right now. Good grief!
Posted by: Daniel | February 28, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
11 million voters, more than the numbers voted for Hillary, voted for Obama….on readging a blank screen?
If that is what she discovered so far…either all those 11 million are i?iots..or she is. Take your pick.
I guess putin (though I don’t like him) guessed it somewhat rihgt: One without a head should not be running for the postion of head of state. Hillary’s faliure to be able read what 11 millioin peole were able read makes me think she may not have anythig up there..even if she has a head…..Its the brain chamber of Hillary that is blank not the screen of Barak Obama.
Posted by: afroza | February 28, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
He is a blank screen. How many of you that are running on the Obama wagon can say 100% without a doubt you know exactly what you are getting with Obama and provide the proof to back that up?
Moving on emotions and fancy saying dose not fix the problems of this land, most of you don’t want to take the time to check on Obama’s track record so to live in your fantasy feel good world you rather leave the screen blank, keep your fingers crossed while wishing for the best and vote.
Posted by: SJ | February 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
She calls obama a blank screen and then doesn’t see the contradiction when commenting on women projecting their own feelings on her.
Wouldn’t that make her just as blank a screen as she accuses Obama of being?
What a loser.
And people actually think she would be a good leader??? right.
Posted by: vwcat | February 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Truly amazing times we live in. That we even have someone like Obama so close to the presidency. Who would have thought to see so many voters so clearly not interested in experience or substance. So many voters being lead around by their emotions and promises of a near fairy tale future era by a man they have projected all their hopes and wishes on. A man of very little gravitas and substance whose only real skill is that of a gifted orator who has managed to cleverly re-work old political themes, as old as ancient Rome, into something new and exciting. Make no mistake, there is nothing new in what he says, once stripped of its charisma and hype, but he is just so lucky to be at that right place and time to benefit. To benefit from eight years of angst. To benefit from a media tripping over itself in adoration of his arrival. To benefit from decades of white liberal guilt. To benefit from an uncritical and unrealistic electorate. Yes, we live in interesting times. To those blinded by this politician, it will be years into the future before your blinders will come off. Let us all truly hope that this impending mistake, this potential Obama presidency, can be avoided if enough open their eyes and see Obama and the world for what it is. Otherwise one can only hope America survives the years ahead, to hopefully emerge not less of a nation than before.
Posted by: Johnny D. | February 28, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
He called himself a blank screen. Don’t you get it?
Posted by: vdee | February 28, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Don’t blame her…poor Hillary’s brain chamber is bank… so she can’t read what 11+ million were able to read and vote for Obama.
And don’t blame few others on this blog who sees that screen blank as does Hillary.
This explains why she as been ut-smarted in votes..delegets..ideas..raising money…dealing with issues rather than crying…I am worried that she my become more dillusional after loosing the primary.
Posted by: afroza | February 28, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
did you see the article on houstonpress called “Obama and Me”? it was written by a reporter that was just starting out and got to know Obama when he was as state senator. its an interesting piece.
Posted by: terry | February 28, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
YOU GO HILLARY!!!! ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION – I AM WITH YOU!
Posted by: B Will | February 28, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Sam, you’re so funny. Your messiah has said so many things that were not just offensive to Hillary, they were offensive to women. I won’t repeat his words because I don’t want to promote his version of “Hope” and unity. Because, before him, Democrats didn’t unite for Democrats apparently. Now that Republicans are uniting with College students well, the world is a better place……Wish for the Change You Hope You Can Believe In.
Posted by: Imahillady | February 28, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Blank screen, blank page, blank mind, take your pick.
Posted by: BTL musings | February 28, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Amen BTL musings! I say Amen, Amen, Amen.
Posted by: edie | February 28, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Clinton is the best candidate, period. Obama is a newcomer who has not paid his dues in politics. He hasn’t even been in the Senate for a term and he’s already running for president. On the other hand, I am tired of people saying they want ‘radical’ change and following a Messiah, just because he is a great speaker. I look at deeds, not words. And I am also tired of listening to Obama supporters saying he had great judgment because he opposed the war in Iraq in 2002. Was he a U.S. Senator then? No. Moreover, that speech does not qualify him to lead the situation in Iraq. Lastly, he has voted to fund the war repeatedly, and has not led a single initiative to stop the war. So can anybody explain me exactly what kind of joke are we talking about here????
Posted by: P. | February 28, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Everything looks blank to a person…..
.. whose brain chamber is blank..
Another proof of that emptiness is how she has been outsmarted in everything…votes…money..delegates…except crying for sympathy votes.
Posted by: moeen | February 28, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
If Barack had lost 12 elections in a row, he would have been pressured to drop out. Hillary should be grateful to the Media for keeping her in the race. No other politician would survive a 12-0 loss, but the Clintons are ever playing the victim card, as if they are been denied what rightfully belongs to them
Bottom line – Red faced, sleaky, finger pointing Bill and Melt-down Queen Hillary are desperate to return to the White House for a third term. I am suffering from Clinton fatigue, and I look forward to voting against them again, and again.
Posted by: Al | February 28, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
The only good answer to such heinous speeches is: let’s stay positive, and Viva OBAMA
Posted by: Mark | February 28, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
I can’t defend either of these two clowns, but Hillary is a human chalk board when she opens her yap. I can’t keep my dog from howlin at the TV when she takes the podium.
Posted by: Ken | February 28, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
He is a blank screen. Everyone is not only projecting, they are becoming exact mimics of his talking points. It’s like the Body Snatchers. Look we know Hillary. We know she stands for the rights of children, and so do I. We know that the rights of children are closely linked to the needs of their parents. Therefore, her commitment to social/domestic issues, education, economy and environment are known to her supporters. We like Bill too! So forget about putting us down, trying to shake our support, etc. We will stay loyal to Clinton because we are only projecting with what we know and relate to. Hang in there Hillary! HILLARY HEARS A WHO! We are here, we are here, we are here! We got your back, we know you’ve got ours!
Posted by: Imahillady | February 28, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Hillary didn’t say Obama is like a blank screen — HE said it, about himself. And he was right on.
Posted by: Eridon | February 28, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
HRC is the smartest and most knowledgable presidential candidate and will be the best president.PERIOD.I predict that she will be better than her husband.In addition to being ready on issues, she is also a kind and caring woman as her battles for civic,women’s and childrens rights show.Can you see the onvious bond and love between HRC and Chelsea.She is a loving and caring mother.The only other candidate with understanding with the issues of the people was Edwards while he was in the race.Hillary for president.
Posted by: VPNathan3 | February 28, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
It should be a testament of Barack’s character and will that he was able to write his own beliefs and values on that blank screen, instead of what was written for him and he just walked lock step with his race or gender.
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
What do I look in a candidate?
1.- Integrity: Hillary flip/flops and does not accept responsibility for her actions — her mind goes conveniently blank when challenged (release of tax return, blaming Al Gore’s not being elected for not having kept her promise to increase jobs in upstate New York)
2.- Experience: Hillary’s so called experience…shows lack of judgment (Iraq, NAFTA). People would rather vote for someone with less experience and good judgment that someone with long experience of bad judgment.
3.- Strength: Bill’s cheating with Jennifer Flower and Monica Lewinsky’s, and then Bill’s publicly lying about those affairs…will always be a cloud on Hillary and her biggest sign of weakness. How can a woman allow herself to be trashed by that type of husband and remain with him just because he is her ticket to the presidency. This is probably the biggest sign of inconceivable weakness rather than a test of strength.
4.- Inspiration: Hillary’s strategy of negative campaign turns people off. The fact that Bill is still in the middle of her campaign is the greatness liability for Hillary because Hillary seems to be just an extension of Bill. When Hillary said during the debate the definition of reject vs. condone…was a reminder of Bill’s “it depends of what the definition of IS is…” The aggressiveness (negative campaign), deceitful mind (non release of their tax forms), conveniently emotional moments (during the debate saying that Hillary is so proud to be running against Obama, then next day insulting voters with hateful and divisive screaming and mocking the opponent) instead of talking about the issues; constant whining (that the press favors the opponent or why am I (Hillary) being asked the questions first…?). Frankly, if this is what our country will get with the Clinton’s…then CHANGE TO A BETTER CANDIDATE is the way to go!
The country needs someone who is inspirational, sincere, trustworthy, inclusive and most of all a person of integrity.
Posted by: GLO | February 28, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Wendy: Interesting post. I didn’t realize she have committed any crimes and made a million mistakes. I want to be an informed voter. Could you detail some of the accusations you’ve just made? I want to share them with my friends so they can be informed too.
Posted by: Mary | February 28, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
AFTER 12 SERIOUS BEATINGS, DON’T THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS UNDERSTAND THAT SHE IS DUMB AND TOTALLY OUTSMARTED, AND REJECTED by America? SHAMELESS CLINTON SUCKERS.
Posted by: Mandy | February 28, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Tender like a snake
Posted by: Mark | February 28, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
These conversations are sad. The negativity that has been brought out. I have to say I see one candidate really attacking in an overwhelmingly negative way. Yes Barack throws out some negatives but I have to say from someone who lived through New Hampshire and saw them all… Barack was the one candidate who always seemed to be trying to not say the negative thing…who didn’t seem like he was attacking.
C’mon everyone…look at the past seven years… it came out of fear and divisiveness… we need to change that. Democrats need to change that republicans need to change that…Americans need to change that.
These conversations with anger and pointing the fingers aren’t going to win any party the nomination.
If your candidate throws out a negative no matter who it is… be the better person, realize it and realize that both of these candidates have great ideas… heck… McCain is better than Bush…
Posted by: dl | February 28, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Obama is a master at raising money and runs his campaign with ruthless efficiency, I wonder if he will run the government the same way.
Posted by: smash | February 28, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Do you have a personal relationship with Obama? Can you really attest to his sincerity, trustworthyness, inclusiveness, integrity? Otherwise, you get what any campaign and media want you to see.
Posted by: himmine | February 28, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
“His relative newness on the political scene, he admits, will also cause him to be seen as a “blank screen” on which a variety of people will project their own views, but he then quickly acknowledges that he must “avoid the pitfalls of fame.” Mrs. Clinton, this is the whole quote in context as opposed to the pulled sound bite. He is the right leader for this country because he knows himself and is comfortable in his own skin. That will keep his vision and responsibities focused; rather than you Mrs. Clinton
who seem to be told every other day, the candidate you are supposed to be.
He is a person first. You are a politician first.
Posted by: Jan | February 28, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
“His relative newness on the political scene, he admits, will also cause him to be seen as a “blank screen” on which a variety of people will project their own views, but he then quickly acknowledges that he must “avoid the pitfalls of fame.” Mrs. Clinton, this is the whole quote in context as opposed to the pulled sound bite. He is the right leader for this country because he knows himself and is comfortable in his own skin. That will keep his vision and responsibities focused; rather than you Mrs. Clinton
who seem to be told every other day, the candidate you are supposed to be.
He is a person first. You are a politician first.
Posted by: Jan | February 28, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
By all of this fighting over two perfectly acceptable Democratic nominees, John McCain will be the next president of the United States. If indications, so far, are correct, 90% of us are going to be in very difficult positions. The conservatives will be in the same boat, even though they believe that the ones that don’t have, don’t work, but they will be happy because someone tells them they won.
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
“Why are all the idiots still calling B Hussein Obama black? His backgound shows he is more white than black, and more Arab than black. He simply used, and uses, the I’m black line to get all the freebies set aside for poor black Americans. Someone punch him in the big ears, you can’t miss, and collect a little blood for a DNA test.”
Wow. I’m Canadian but I’ve been deeply interested in what’s happening politically in America recently. The idea that such monumental change could happen in the form of Barack Obama amazes me. I never thought in my life time Americans would elect or even seriously consider electing a black man as president. The above response from ‘vwcat’ proves there still is a little ways to go. Still I’m excited for America and in some ways a little envious is some ways and that’s not a feeling I’ve had in almost 20 years.
Posted by: Michael | February 28, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Hillary does not understand that saying something negative about her opponent puts her in a terrible position…. Her comments about her opponent being a blank screen just shows that she herself has nothing else to talk, but BLANK…why??, why??, why??? …Maybe enticed by the press.. but Hillary just walks into the negative. Hillary cannot help it!Hillary just does not get!
Posted by: GW | February 28, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
I will also say that all of you should visit the different chat groups with both candidates’ campaigns (I often do just to see what the tone is and see if I see something that I didn’t know)…
I am just one person and I haven’t been to every group obviously but it seems as though there is a common theme in the Obama groups that seems to come often from the top down. I saw Barack speak at a organizers group early on and he said…no mudslinging…and you see that in the groups where his state officials seemed to have been hit over the head with that. I have seen people “head to the dark side” and have Barack’s campaign people come down on people for it. I saw some people saying they were going to write there superdelegates (this was weeks ago so i don’t know if it’s the same now)…but campaign people said “no” that is not what the campaign stood for…
I don’t work for the campaign… haha…honestly… but people should take a look …visit both the candidates websites…see the tones of the discussions. As negative as people may be on here… the tone in those campaigns seems to come down from the candidate themselves.
…and that might be why people “drink the cool aid” as someone disparagingly threw into one of these conversations… Tone, direction and value of hope are important for a campaign, a President and for their judgement… they are not everything but they are of highest importance. Lots o Presidents were second in the longterm washington experience category…Lincoln, Kennedy, Roosevelt…all second in the experience category…but first in the judgement and tone category.
That’s all I’m saying sorry it was so long…
Posted by: dl | February 28, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Politics of fear! What are you talking about?
Posted by: Emily | February 28, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
versations… Tone, direction and value of hope are important for a campaign, a President and for their judgement… they are not everything but they are of highest importance. Lots o Presidents were second in the longterm washington experience category…Lincoln, Kennedy, Roosevelt…all second in the experience category…but first in the judgement and tone category.
That’s all I’m saying sorry it was so long…
Posted by: dl | February 28, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Go OBAMA go…..
Posted by: mya | February 28, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Benjamin: you know, I don’t take anything away from the idea that having a woman president would be a real change in the course of US history, but you can’t seriously be implying that a black president would not qualify as a “real change”, can you?
Also, I still don’t buy the argument that Hillary is positing (“he just hasn’t been around long enough”). She seems to be suggesting that she has been around longer. She’s still a *junior* senator, and would get creamed in the Experience Dept. against McCain. She’s been an elected official for 7 years. That’s a long time? A lot longer than Obama? Not really — not when you consider that Obama was elected to his state senate and served 7 years there before coming to Washington.
I suppose if Hillary wants to include her 8 years “in the White House” as part of her political career. I don’t give her that. It sounds like she and her supporters do.
Posted by: Tony | February 28, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Michael | Feb 28, 2008 10:49:12 PM
This is America, if he didn’t say he was black, he would be ridiculed by black and white. People KNOW what he is as soon as they see him or hear him speak. It is an interesting point, in that, his black daddy left when he was two and he didn’t see him again until he was 10, he grew up in Hawaii(very few if any black people) and he was raised by his white mother(beautiful lady) and white grandparents. He must have been an oddity his whole life until he went to college. And if we are to believe his wife’s college experience, even then.
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Yes we can
Yes we can
Yes we can
Posted by: john | February 28, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Perfect description of Obama.
We will pay too dearly if Obama were to win. His policies that are known are actually carbon copies of Hillary’s.
Obama is in this for himself and the African Americans are in this also for themselves.
Just imagine if 90% of white folks vote for Hillary as African Americans are doing for Obama, you know what the media will call it.
I am an African American and I am not proud of the way we are turning out to be in this election. Is as if we don’t care what people have done for us in the past. We are doing what we accuse the white folks of doing for ages. I don’t know why I thought we were a bit more sophisticated than this.
Posted by: SO | February 28, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
GO OBAMA!!! The more they hate, the stronger we get. So please, keep saying negative things. We just keep raising money, keep getting new supporters…and best of all…keep winning primaries and caucuses. I LOVE IT!!!
OBAMA ’08
Posted by: ONE THING TO SAY TO THIS | February 28, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Its pretty funny to continue watching the Clinton supporters tilt at windmills.
Posted by: Paul | February 28, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I have seen the light. BARACK OBAMA HAS MY VOTE.
Posted by: SO | February 28, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
I like Barack Obama. He is an honest man.
Posted by: smith | February 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
christy
Norman Hsu
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Go ahead…………..Obama
Posted by: Nico | February 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
I must admit, I am impressed by Obama. I’m going to stop race-baiting and showing religious intolerance and support the best candidate for the job. Senator Barack Obama.
Posted by: georgie | February 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Thanks, georgie. You were starting to worry me.
Posted by: Steve | February 28, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Hillary is the WOMAN, YES HEAR THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A REAL CHANGE!!!!!!
GO HILLARY
Posted by: Mike | February 28, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
after reading your post for the past week, YEAH, OK, we BELIEVE that dude!
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Sorry, I meant to say No way for Clinton.
Posted by: Not an obam girl | February 28, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
He’s an amazing candidate. I mean considering he’s a Manchurian Muslim, anti-Semite, non allegiance pledgin’, empty suit just stinking of naivete… how big a feat is it to overcome all that and beat out Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination?
Posted by: Paul | February 28, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Not an obama girl – where can’t you volunteer? He has field offices everywhere.
Posted by: Paul | February 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Barack Obama’s campaign is not anything to Politics as Usual, it is THE WORST FORM OF POLITICS!
Obama has created a CULT with HATEFUL people as its members.
He will DESTROY America.
Posted by: Jkan | February 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
“Georgie”… name one B.O. accomplishment. BESIDES BEING A GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER. You airheads are going to kill America.
Posted by: LisaH | February 28, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Lisa – no presidential candidate from either party has had a significant pre-presidential accomplishment since Eisenhower – and that’s over half a century ago.
Posted by: Paul | February 28, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
LisaH
Senator Obama proposed the Senate Ethics/Spending Reform Bill: requires disclosure of all senate spending and all pet projects, and reduces the amount of interaction senators can have with lobbyists.
Any other questions for me?
Posted by: georgie | February 28, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
ks kitty – huh? You’ll need to translate that last one.
Posted by: Paul | February 28, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Posted by: Paul | Feb 28, 2008 11:14:09 PM
Unless your deferment is already in the works. You know they raised the age and lowered the standards.
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
LisaH, your lengthy comment lacks truth and dignity. It gives us some insight on your paranoid universe. Nice bold platitudes, pathologically interesting and very amusing. Keep going and don’t take your medication jet!
Posted by: Mike | February 28, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
ks – me thinks you no make sense. But just so I know where you’re coming from, are you a Clinton, Obama or McCain supporter?
Posted by: Paul | February 28, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Why it took Senator Clinton so long to begin this line of criticism is beyond me, but she is right about Senator Obama. His 7-point platform can be summarized as 1.) pull out of Iraq and then go back in if Al Qaeda shows up again (the statement is illogical enough to give one a bran aneurysm), 2.) burn bridges with Pakistan 3.) sit down with Mahmoud Amadinejad (has a slight fascination with fomenting another Jewish Holocaust) 4.)sit down with Kim Jong Il (do I really have to explain?) 5.)Change
6.) You Can 7.) Believe In.
Let’s be honest, Hope You Can Believe should take care of all of America’s problems foreign and domestic.
For a political party that is constantly harping on “The Christian Right”, “Theocons”, and the imminent theocracy that President Bush and Evangelicals are secretly plotting to establish, Senator Obama sounds like a Messiah who seeks to redeem politics and the country from all that ills it. A perfect storm of narcissism and naïveté personified.
Posted by: Steve | February 28, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Two words, my friend. Stop hating.
Posted by: Steve | February 28, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
I see Steve has attended the Hillary school of strawman argument construction.
Posted by: Paul | February 28, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Ok, well in all fairness, I didn’t know Obama had actually done something. Fair is fair. He has gained more of my respect tonight. I’m not ready to say he’s got my vote…but I moving closer in that direction.
Posted by: LisaH | February 28, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Blank Screen…hee hee. Hillary’s brilliant! This woman will make an amazing president. I donated to her campaign today. Hillary 2008.
Posted by: Miami, Florida | February 28, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Lisa……great post. Very true. Barack Hussien O’Bama is a complete empty suit. That’s right folks, his middle name is Hussien, if you don’t like it tough! The cult-like behavior of the people who are drinking his koolaid is disturbing. They have no clue what is really going on in this dangerous world of ours and how very unwise Barack really is. It’s all about EMOTION with them…..not REALITY. Wake-up you bottle-fed idiots!
Posted by: Tami | February 28, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Paul, Paul, weren’t you listening? This all goes back to the REAL georgie and the FAKE georgie. Or is it the TWO georgies without the pudding and pie?
He’s an amazing candidate. I mean considering he’s a Manchurian Muslim, anti-Semite, non allegiance pledgin’, empty suit just stinking of naivete… how big a feat is it to overcome all that and beat out Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination?
Posted by: Paul | Feb 28, 2008 11:14:09 PM
well, georgie you can support Obama , but This georgie Never will. Hillary or a cross over in the general.
Posted by: georgie | Feb 28, 2008 11:13:32 PM
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Whoa…I just realized that I sound like a complete racist. Ok, not good.
Posted by: Tami | February 28, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
TO THE IDIOTS WHO KEEP MENTIONING EXPERIENCE. THERE IS NO JOB THAT PREPARES YOU TO RUN THE COUNTRY EXCEPT RUNNING THE COUNTRY. EVEN BEING A GOVERNOR IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING PRESIDENT. NEITHER IS BEING 1ST LADY OR A SENATOR. AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY ALL HAVE ADVISERS AND WE RELY ON THE PRESIDENT’S GOOD JUDGMENT.
Posted by: Right on Day1 | February 28, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Steve, I can not agree with you more. When I heard Obama said he would pull troops out of Iraq and put them back in if alqeada still there…..My mind went numb and I thought I was having a stroke or something. It took me a minute to realize I wasn’t dreaming then I found myself saying….”but alqeada is in Iraq….now!” If I knew that an average IQ is not a requirement for president, I would have launched a campaign myself.
Posted by: D, Ohio | February 28, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
PAUL, there’s TOO MANY georgies!
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Of course, McCain is no better. It’s his policies that got us into Iraq in the first place. Lesser of two evils, but I guess I’ll go with Obama.
Posted by: D, Ohio | February 28, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Are maybe a schizophrenic georgie
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
What a complete joke our party is.. to be supporting a illusionist like Obama. Obama’s campaign will go down in history as “the audacity of borrowed words and empty promises”.
Posted by: San Francisco, California | February 28, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Ethics reform was pushed through by Obama at the Illinois state senate level.
Single-mothers in Illinois get a break on public transportation and their kids do get a ride for free.
He has pushed through healthcare and childcare initiatives while serving as a state senator.
He has worked with Republicans on bi-partisan legislation at the state and U.S. level.
He has pushed through legislation that would require the use of cameras when interrogating suspects of capital crimes and did receive a commendation for his efforts by the police force.
He did put forth an extraordinary effort with bipartisan support to gain and protect resources for the rebuilding efforts of Hurricane Katrina and to prevent no-bid contracts like Halliburton from occurring like in Iraq under Hillary’s watch and non-opposition.
He did produce the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate as quoted by other media sources.
He did work on legislation to deal with the issues of Darfur.
And all media agree that he was consistent on being against the Iraq war.
Hillary has been First Lady most of her adult life and served 7 years as an elected official versus Obama’s 11 total years as an elected official.
Exactly what hard core pieces of legislation has she brought to the table besides SCHIP?
I’ll be waiting for a substantive response.
How much of her experience is Bill’s and how much is actually hers?
Why didn’t she confront Obama with her comments at the debates, that she demanded so aggressively ?
I really hate these cheep cowardly snipper attacks.
Posted by: Mike | February 28, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Hey, LisaH, some good points there, but a waste of time really. The Obamabots are not interested in reasoning any more than I want to choke myself. Just as the Obamabots believe we Hillary supporters, eleven million and counting, will somehow forget all the mindless hate they proudly write on these blogs will be forgotten if Obama wins. The only way I’d vote for Obama is if Osama Bin Ladin were the only other individual left in the race. The democratic party is in serious trouble and the Obamabots have no idea of the damage they have caused. They will.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
I take that back. Obama’s presidential material. I’m not going to sit on here in the safety of anonymity and say mean things about people. Only a complete loser would do that.
And I’m Dave, a winner.
Posted by: Dave | February 28, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Dave, and ignorance is bliss!
Posted by: Mike | February 28, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
“Obamabot” I thought of that all by myself. How cool am I?
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
He’s a blank screen, with a worn out woofer and tweeter.
Posted by: Kevin - OR | February 28, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Tell me, her accomplishments MattOhio. Show your cards!!
Posted by: Mike | February 28, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Two words: Obama sucks.
Posted by: Dave | Feb 28, 2008 11:43:29 PM
Ummmm, sucks Nicorette gum. Instead of INSERTING the cigar.
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Better to start fresh with a “blank screen” than vote for a
Lying, evasive, race-baiter like
Hillary Clinton!
She has lied about her vote In favor of
giving Bush the authority to go into Iraq, Claiming she expected him to go to the UN! She has lied about her
consistant support for NAFTA which her
husband and the Democrat Congress passed! As far as we know she’s lying about those First Lady papers which
detail her claims of experience!
She still has not released her
tax returns!
She and her husband injected race into this campaign after the South Carolina
Primary attempting to scare white voters into voting for her!
I’d say a “blank screen” would be a refreshing change from the Clintons!
At least when you’re dealing with a “blank screen” there is the capacity to learn and grow!
Go Away Hillary and take Bill with You!
Posted by: reaganfan | February 28, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
absolutely right, sj, the obamaites think we hillary supporters will vote for their guy just because he’s a dem. wrong! after voting dem since mcgovern, i’ll be voting for mccain. it’ll be the first repub vote of my life. i won’t write in hillary’s name, decline to vote, or vote for nader because that would only cost obama one vote. by voting for mccain i’ll be denying him the vote hillary would have had, plus giving one to his opponent, for a net loss of 2 votes for obama. i hope and believe that millions of hillary supporters will do the same. then he can go back to the senate and avoid voting on anything controversial, again. but he’ll learn the hard reality that once a nominee loses in a general election, he’ll never get another chance. and that will be that.
Posted by: so saddened | February 28, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
reaganfan | Feb 28, 2008 11:53:39 PM
Bad form, old chap!
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Her arrogance continues to astound. She treats like some bug on her windshield. She WISHES her windshield blades could just swish him away.
Posted by: DonaldD | February 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Well, Wil and MattOhio, I give up on you two. It’s actually not my problem, that you don’t understand politics. Your comments lack contents and proof and show a lot of simplification and ignorance.
Good night.
Posted by: Mike | February 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
If Barack Hussein Obama wins democratic nominee; democratic party will be destroyed for many years.
Vote for Hillary if you haven’t voted yet.
Posted by: Uma, mpls, MN | February 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I will give you 3 when she was in her 20′s
1. Hillary ran a legal aid clinic for the poor when she first got to Arkansas and handled cases of foster care and child abuse.
2. Years later, she organized a group called Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families.
3. Worked for the United States Legal Services Corporation, a federal nonprofit program that funds legal assistance for the poor.
there are many more
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Hillary,
Be gracious for once in your political life; withdraw from this race before you and your ‘divide and conquer’ politics take down the whole Democratic party with you.
Posted by: Mark D. | February 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Mike
Dont give up. dont be quitter like Obama. dont flip-flop
Matt
Posted by: Matt | February 28, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Hillary is divisive and dishonest. Karl Rove learned a great deal from her and Bill. A continuation of her partisan style of politics will bankrupt the country, and she needs to be sent back to the Senate.
Posted by: Oracle | February 28, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Most of his fans our new to the democrats you’ve seen all thoes old men in Washington they want to make sure there are enough followers to keep the gravy train going. I’m not moved by what I see I am moved by what I believe.
Hillaryspeaksforme
Posted by: Bishop | February 28, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Alright. I give up. Obama is kind of shaky. I felt that too. But what can you do, I got caught up in the hype. I was testing the waters after the debate. Hillary slammed Obama in all the debates. I gave up on Obama.
Posted by: Mike | February 28, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
This site should not eliminate issues that are very pertinant to us, whom visit this site, and would like to know all the issues of a candidate that may not have reached us via the media, through word of mouth, tv and radio.
Posted by: stevem | February 28, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Hiilary’s Prayers
Everybody and his mother have written off Hillary Clinton in the democratic race for presidential nomination. Well, all may not be lost for Hillary Clinton. Anything can happen in an election especially in a long process of primaries and caucuses. Was it conceivable in November that Mrs. Clinton would be in a soup by February?
As it becomes clearer that Obama is the likely nominee, far right wing republicans will redirect their attacks on him (so far they have been directed on McCain) as they have begun to do so. . Once McCain’s nomination is clearly setlled, all the right wing fanatics (Coulter, Limbaugh et al) will start venting their frustration on Obama.Something in his past, some scandal is likely to come out or more fodder to an existing one (like Tony Rizko). If it happens, the press who has been sympathetic to him by and large can’t extend that courtesy forever and at some point will pay more attention to one of these scandals. Obama’s negatives could rise. Polls may show him trailing to McCain. Democratic party elders and superdelegates may have second thoughts on supporting him.
Now if Hillary is close behind his heels at this time (trailing by say a hundred or so delegates) she can reintroduce her argument that ” I told you so, he’s not been ‘ vetted’ where as I have been”. He can’t take the republican attacks. He’s simply not electable”.
If the scandal is a serious one many in the party will buy into this argument and Hillary may just be elected the nominee out of necessity.
Now a few things have to happen for this scenario to work out. For one thing a scandal has to break out. Senator Clinton’s hopes of securing a democratic nomination at this stage clearly hinge on a scandal breaking out, yes that is true, but the chances of that happening aren’t that remote as most people think it is. Well not much is known about Senator Obama. Many only came to know his middle name recently. He could have met or talked to some foreign leader America hates, in one of his trips. Some stupid things like drug abuse (recent ones if any that is, there is already a case in a MN court pertaining to this) or more damaging info about his association with Tony Rizko or his likes could become public. Karl Rove trained right wingers will definitely unearth any such scandal, you can count on that.
Another must is Hillary’s presence when (and if) this implosion occurs. So at this stage or any stage, Hillary can’t give up and let Obama secure the nomination. Then the above scenario works out only in McCain’s favor. She has to hang in there – not so far behind however.She can’t be perceived as running only to sabotage Obama’s candidacy. She can trail by a 150 or so delegates, that would still be a race.Has to do well in the upcoming primaries. Win a few. Even when you lose don’t get blown away like in the last ten. Compete fiercely. Let your followers know you are still in there and convince party leaders she has a chance – a small one maybe but a chance nonetheless. This is when FL, MI and superdelegates come to her rescue.Of course she needs recourses for her campaign to go on .
A lot of things are going against her in this race. Momentum being the hardest part of all.
But if she can win Ohio and Rhode Island (losing TX my a small margin is okay) and win PA, a few decent shows before PA, she may be able to stall for more time. And if it happens time becomes her ally because that is when Obama is going to feel the wrath of Karl Rove’s army.
Mrs Clinton is down, certainly but she is definitely not out.
Posted by: Levi Strauss | February 28, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
I am not sure what the insult is. Obama does hit chords that are universal in all people, so why should this be considered a negative? Leaders throughout history have used inspiration to move the masses.
Are we to believe that the only way to move forward is to fight every fight without regard to the others point of view?
Or should we believe that the only way to be strong is to fiercely oppose anyone that disagrees with us?
Posted by: elbie | February 28, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Pennsylvanians resoundingly rejected Santurom in 2006. He is a rabid fear monger at best.
I shall use his article for actually useful purposes, before finishing up in the smallest room of my house. Now it is before me; shortly it will be behind.
Posted by: Mark D. | February 28, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Please choose Obama over Clinton, so that McCain can win easily as soon as the situation will get sour in the Middle East this coming summer. Then in 2012 Obama will have to confront Arnold as the Republican prez candidate, and it won’t be easier for him. See you in 2016, dems!
Posted by: VRP | February 28, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
We are in middle of war and economic recession, mortgage crisis, etc. I like Barack Hussein Obama’s speech becasue he has borrowed all famous people’s word to make it attractive. But do i live in those words and speeches, no i am mother of two and middle in come woman i want stable income, insurance and affordable mortgage.
We could not give Hillary win in Iowa but people in TX, PA and IO, please ..please ..please don’t fall in this deceptive speeches and words…we need person who believe in action, that is HIllary.
Vote Hillary and make her win with big margin so she will win all the delegates in your state.
4Hillary ’08!
Posted by: jmaya, iowa | February 28, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Please choose Obama over Clinton, so that McCain can win easily as soon as the situation will get sour in the Middle East this coming summer. Then in 2012 Obama will have to confront Arnold as the Republican prez candidate, and it won’t be easier for him. See you in 2016, dems!
Posted by: VRP | February 28, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
If Barack is a blank screen, Hillary and Bill are a dirty screen! We need to wipe off the Clinton grime so we can see again.
Posted by: kevin | February 28, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
That’s Hillary for you. A new story every day. What crap!
Obama — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | February 28, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I’ll say again.
reaganfan | Feb 28, 2008 11:53:39 PM
Bad form, old chap!
GP’ers are NOT allowed to distort the process. Go you to McCainLand and spew your filth.
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Madame Hillary will repell you.
In the name of Barack, the Blessed, Hussein, the Good, you are denounced and rejected!
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Cease from here now henceforth. KENNEDY”S CAMELOT! Agent of GOOD!
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Someone please tell Dickk Morris that he is whining like a little girl all the time about the Clinton. Get him a doll for goodness sake
Posted by: Matt | February 28, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Has anyone else noticed that the news media has actually “shifted” its coverage as if to “prove” to poor Hillary they are not biased they are now pouring it on Obama real thick.
They made a mountain out of a mole hill when Farrakhsn said, “I love that brother” in reference to Obama (and I wonder what else he would say and how this is deemed an endorsement); but when the Mexican woman from Texas said she is not voting for Obama and no other latinos in Texas would either because he is Black Hillary gets away with a luke warm…mild distancing with a wink.
It was obvious by the 1st part of the question that Hillary’s campaign ASKED this poor old broad to say her code remarks to latinos to REMIND them not to vote for a black man. I caught the first part of her statement where she said that Blacks used their (latinos) numbers and then did nothing for them. Well, let’s see, who exactly does she think got the Equal Rights Laws passed so she could hold the position she holds..her fellow Mexicans.
I guess that is the thanks you get. But, forget about thanks, I say to all latino leaders right now..think about self preservation. African American descendants of the only chattel slaves in this country BELIEVE that Obama may really be President and maybe this is some fulfillment of God’s purpose and reason for 400+ years of degradation. Do latinos, should latinos, really be the group to frustrate that purpose and belief????????????????????????
Posted by: shelgirl | February 28, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Has anyone else noticed that the news media has actually “shifted” its coverage as if to “prove” to poor Hillary they are not biased they are now pouring it on Obama real thick.
They made a mountain out of a mole hill when Farrakhsn said, “I love that brother” in reference to Obama (and I wonder what else he would say and how this is deemed an endorsement); but when the Mexican woman from Texas said she is not voting for Obama and no other latinos in Texas would either because he is Black Hillary gets away with a luke warm…mild distancing with a wink.
It was obvious by the 1st part of the question that Hillary’s campaign ASKED this poor old broad to say her code remarks to latinos to REMIND them not to vote for a black man. I caught the first part of her statement where she said that Blacks used their (latinos) numbers and then did nothing for them. Well, let’s see, who exactly does she think got the Equal Rights Laws passed so she could hold the position she holds..her fellow Mexicans.
I guess that is the thanks you get. But, forget about thanks, I say to all latino leaders right now..think about self preservation. African American descendants of the only chattel slaves in this country BELIEVE that Obama may really be President and maybe this is some fulfillment of God’s purpose and reason for 400+ years of degradation. Do latinos, should latinos, really be the group to frustrate that purpose and belief????????????????????????
Posted by: shelgirl | February 28, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
News comment boards = last refuge for bitter Clinton supporters. All 16 of them. What a freakshow.
Folks like Levi Strauss just don’t get it (but oooo my what a smarty-pants handle!). Obama is the real deal, and there’s nothing to gain from fratricidal destruction. HRC also doesn’t get it, evidently.
Don’t talk to me about HRC beating McCain. She’s never come close in the polls, while most have Obama beating him. But forget about that. After watching her whining and ineptitude, I can’t possibly imagine her as my president. Nor, it seems, can most Americans.
Of course, if she gets the nomination, she’ll lose. And then, she’ll blame it on Obama. And the media. So lame.
Posted by: Tungsten | February 28, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Hillsters, there will still be room on the O-boat when this is done. We will still love ya!
Then it will be time to take our frustration and aim it at the ‘Straight-talk Express”!
Posted by: knixphan | February 28, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Howard Fineman of Newsweek just reported that he had a conversation with Clinton Campaign management. He was told that they are going to do everything they can to raise doubts about Obama between now and Tuesday.
Why cant they focus on putting out information on what Hillary can do for the country? She seems unable to get any traction on her own merits. The people are beyond tired of the repeated resorts to Obama attacks.
While I can understand that many women are sticking with Clinton because they expect a female presidency will provide a bridge away from gender biases against that have been part of American culture. I hope some of these women take a closer look at Michelle Obama. My own impression is that she will do far and away the most for women as first lady. I’ve listened to her talk manhy times now. She is truly in a higher league than Hillary Clinton.
Mike Denhof
Posted by: Mike Denhof | February 28, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
knixphan, no thanks, this hillster will be voting mccain. btw, how are the knicks doing, lol.
Posted by: so saddened | February 28, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Go to YAHOO: type in: stop the aclu “Blog Archives” obama’s terrorist friends….view a video and writeup on his association with the radical weather underground group. This was discussed on Hannity and Colmes tonight.
This site keeps eliminating this…I wonder why?
Posted by: stevem | February 28, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
To all square republican readnecks out there: go to your favorite search engine and type in : “Scheisskopf” and then “puta madre” and then “va fan culo” and then “Que te jodan” – learn something about yourselves and then get a living, you poor buggers. And triple check on bugger.
Posted by: Garp | February 28, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
I do believe that Hillary could beat McCain
Hillaryspeaksforme
Posted by: Bishop | February 28, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
stevem, interesting, isn’t it? i’ve had this sort of thing happen many, many times. particularly when i suggest visiting my favorite site, where there is actual intellectual discussion. it’s savagepolitics.com, but i doubt you’ll see this, because they delete it over and over. we’ll see.
Posted by: so saddened | February 28, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
ks katty;
It’s not Bad Form or filth It’s the Truth and You can’t handle the Truth!
I’ll post anywhere I choose to!
Obama has more class in his pinky than
Hillary Clinton has in her whole body!
He doesn’t mock her and resort to personal attacks as Hillary does!
If you’re looking for filth, Hillary
Clinton and Bill Clinton are the definition of the word!
Posted by: reaganfan | February 28, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Hillary is doing quite well despite overwhelming media support for Obama, despite girly men who fear women, despite all the lies and hate, despite being outspent 4 to 1 across the board, she’s still in the game. On the other hand, I have no idea how Obama will function under stress. He functions quite well with happy times. That’s not how the job in the White House will be, unfortunately. Hillary has shown her metal. I know she can handle the tough going. I’ll stand with her.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Ethics Reform Committe – Which average American benefited from it?
Proposed Trade treaties with Central American countries – Why oppose NAFTA now?
In 17 yrs of his public life OBAMA hasnt done anything but be a political opportunist.
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
HRC is the smartest and most knowledgable presidential candidate and will be the best president.PERIOD.I predict that she will be better than her husband.In addition to being ready on issues, she is also a kind and caring woman as her battles for civic,women’s and childrens rights show.Can you see the onvious bond and love between HRC and Chelsea.She is a loving and caring mother.The only other candidate with understanding with the issues of the people was Edwards while he was in the race.Hillary for president.
Posted by: VPNathan3 | February 28, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
I don’t think you want a debate on who did what in the Senate. It speaks for itself.
Obama bests Clinton. Here are the facts: Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years including the following: 1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site. 2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month. 3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. 4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. 5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson. 6. Name post office after Jonn A. O’Shea. 7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death. 10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov). Now, I would post those most significant bills authored and passed into law of Obama’s, **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparenc y Act of 2006, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more. In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record.
Posted by: DavidB | February 28, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
VRP:
Arnold Shwartzenegger can’t run for
President as he was not born in
the US!
Posted by: reaganfan | February 28, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Hillary… I BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christina | February 28, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
DavidB.
tell us why Obama cant answer a question in an honest manner. What is he hiding about his life?
Why is he changing his stance on important issues all the time?
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Okay Bag the Billster let’s talk NAFTA. Your move, I return.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
How sad that she now is disrespecting the Obama backers as though we haven’t done our homework and are just blindly following our “Messiah”.
Newsflash for ya’ Hil:
We aren’t behind Obama “without knowing” what both he AND you stand for. We’ve done our homework, and you have been seeing the results over the past 11 primaries.
Good luck once you re-join the Senate.
Posted by: Ranman | February 28, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
When does the fighting end?
Posted by: still fighting | February 28, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Bag the Billster,
Not just Clinton supporters, everyone else in the world including you Obamatons are saying that Obama supporters are irrational and unreal
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Obama and all the candidates deflect answers all the time. It’s part of the campaign process at this time.
The more they talk about specifics, the more it provides opportunity for each candidate to have ammunition.
What is more interesting than which candidate will win, is the lack of real research done by people that have access to the internet. Why people read what is written as the gospel truth is beyond me.
This election has shown the lack of education within the common voter, and more the hysterical support each camp provides.
Posted by: DavidB | February 28, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Our only and last hope to fix America is with President Obama! We cannot wait. A return to the corrupt past will be a disaster!
Posted by: Akinat2 | February 28, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Let’s see your knowledge, billster. You opened the debate I’m calling your bluff.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Wow, this is really sad to see how much hate is within the Democratic party. One side is going to lose by a tiny percentage of the vote. I kinda see a civil war going down in Denver now and I don’t see enough selfless people to bring this party back together.
Posted by: Charles | February 28, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Erica Asahan wrote:
This is really too bad if Hillary were to lose this nomination. I do believe based on her experiences, she is the best qualified candidate to run this country.
Posted by: Erica Asahan | February 28, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Sorry to say Hillary is not going to make it. There are too many highly educated people who have rejected her already. Many studies have shown that people with greater degees of higher education, college, masters. doctorates and lawyers, gravitate towards Obama. Those with less education, like many on this site, are down their with Hillary. The really pitiful and ignorant ones are there with McCain. Those are the dumb bigots who spread lies out of desperation. Theese Clinton supporters are usually less well off financially also. So their thinking is more than a bit off-it is below the basic standard. They fail to see that Obama is a great leader while Hilary posseses the ability to see only the trees and not the forest. It is probably because of their own incapacity to see true leadership and brilliance, that these unfortunates are rabidly defending Clinton. They say they will abandon the party if Hillary loses. So be it. Ther party will lose many many more if Obama is defeated because of the Clinton’s and their unethical and illegal actions-they will try to steal the election.
I hera the last gasp of the old lady Clinton and her desperate supporters. I pity you-I would be just as angry if my more brilliant candidate were in her position. But he isn’t because there are more higher educated people who vote and support Barack. It’s called survival of the fittest.
Posted by: kevin | February 28, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
We need a real fighter more than a self-proclaimed uniter.
The interest of ordinary people and the fate of this country is simply and fundamentally opposite to that of special interests and big money. Do you expect them to surrender to your rhetoric of hope, change, and uniter? I am not delusional?
All signs indicate to me that Barack is another political opportunist. Do we have the luxury to wait for another four long years at this critical junction of the american history?
Will vote Hillary. Otherwise McCain if have to.
Posted by: hyh | February 28, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
We have a battle to conquer! We are told that this battle is about ideology.
But NO, this battle is about Truth and Right!
Will we stand and let our young be sent off to slaughter?! NO!
Will we stand and let our Voices NOT be heard? NO!
Hillary, the Knowledge,or Barack, the Good,
Be our Voice, must win victory for us all! Never waver, never weaken, never fall for the craven attention of the Oppressor. It is only a distraction! We, only now, see the Truth in our STRENGTH!
Let the craven heathen, that masquerade as the righteous, know WE ARE ONE! One for all! All for one! Let the battle BEGIN!
Posted by: ks katty | February 28, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Okay, Kevin, I have grade nine, let’s debate Nafta. You claim to be better educated, I’m shaking.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Bag my Friend
Polls dont count. TX and OH will count in Hillary’s favor. Media is already giving OH to Hillary and a big Hispanic advantage to Hillary in TX. I am sorry that you will be surprised.
Hillary-Edwards ‘ 08
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
CEL:
The canada story was proven false by the Obama campaign and by the Canadian Government and the Canadian Ambassador. Look it up, and stop spreading lies.
Yes, Obama does support free trade with the proper restrictions for the environment and American workers. So does Hillary. They both voted yes on the same free trade agreement.
You’re right, we should instead support the candidate who pushed NAFTA through congress – who is personally responsible for the job loss of hundreds of thousands in Ohio alone. That’s good judgement.
Posted by: JOon | February 28, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Bag, CNN stated tonight no latinos were included in this poll. Check your facts before blindly posting an uncheck poll.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Sorry – meant to mention – that free trade agreement was with Peru. meant to look it up.
Oh and Matt, you are right – only the votes can see who wins in Texas and Ohio. I’m betting it will be Obama. We’ll see in 5 days.
Posted by: Jon | February 28, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Wrong, DavisB, CTV said tonight they stand by their story.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Hillary is right.. Obama is blank screen. Atleast I like a blank screen. Atleast it can’t lie unlike Hillary.. who has 35 yrs of lies after lies. Promised 200,000 jobs in my town of buffalo and took away a net of 26,000 jobs.. She promises 5 Millions and a host of social programs or each voter, she has a damn plan.. but says she can account for it.. but when asked for details.. she will never provide it. atleast, a blank screen will never lie.. this one Lies her ass off.. I will vote for a blank screen in Ohio and will never vote for a liar like Hillary.. ever..
Posted by: RamC | February 28, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Well, she is correct about the “blank screen” comment; Obama said as much in his book. But to say she’s not surprised by how the race has shaped up is dishonest. She thought this would be wrapped up by Super Tuesday, and everybody knows it. Obama, on the other hand, clearly planned for a long-hard slog.
Posted by: CarbonDate | February 28, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Bag my dear Friend
My point exactly. Do you think you are talking to an Alien? Get off the Obama drug, you will see we are on the Earth.
Get Real like Hillary said.
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
What? Hillary is a farce. Bill was elected promising universal health care. The Congress was democratic. Eighty percent of the public was behind it. The economy could easily support it. Yet her program was 100% failure. She had another 6 years to try to revive it. Let’s hear the excuse for 8 years of failure on her supposed pet program – when her husband was the president no less. Now there’s an election, she’s promising you healthcare again just like Bill did – with an unworkable mandatory plan. The theory is that if you can fool them once, you can always fool them. As Geffen says, “the Clintons lie with such ease, it’s troubling”. and the NY Times’ William Safire called her a “congenital liar”. Hillary flunked healthcare. She flunked Iraq. She flunked Iran. She even flunked the Washington bar exam twice, and is a serial failure as a housewife. That’s her record – her so-called experience. Vote Obama.
Posted by: Sis O, IA | February 28, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Well, MattOhio, he had to check as Kucinich in democratic primary debate (spelling sucks) did state he saw a UFO.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Hillary claims the 200,000 jobs she promised in NY never happened only because she expected a Democratic President, and didn’t get one.
Hey Hillary, what if you don’t get a Democratic congress? Will you be able to pass anything with a Republican congress?
I want a candidate who doesn’t blame his failures on other people. Take responsibility for your failures Hillary. Apologize for your vote on Iraq. Take responsibility for destroying healthcare in 1993. Admit you couldn’t make 200,000 jobs because it was a ridiculous campaign promise.
Do those things, and I will consider voting for you if you somehow beat Obama. If you don’t, you are no better than George Bush – whose arrogance and unwillingness to admit his mistakes are his two biggest flaws. Everyone makes mistakes – Obama will as well. But at least he will admit them and try to fix them. You’ll just blame someone else.
Posted by: Jon | February 28, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
I’ve read just about every major Democratic candidate’s proposals. And yeah, Obama has had his out for awhile, though you Hillary parrots refuse to realize that.
I came to the Obama camp via John Edwards because on top of quality proposals, he bring that evil word “hope”. Funny how the wife of the “Man from Hope” now treats the concept as water to a witch.
Hope AND unity AND a plan are the ingredients we are going to need to move this country forward and become Americans again. Not character assassination, not race-baiting.
I mean, seriously, how sick is it that John McCain is more of a class act in denouncing (AND REJECTING!) racist bigotry than Hillary Clinton. And he’s from a different party!
I can’t get behind that, and I hope the worst of you angry, vile epithet throwing, race baiting Clinton supporters remember that we are members of the same party and, more importantly, the same nation.
If you can’t win on policy and principle, maybe you shouldn’t be in the race.
Posted by: John, from Las Vegas, NV | February 28, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
It’s not what we don’t know about Obama. It’s what we do know about Hillary.
It’s amazing to hear this from Clinton supporters who themselves show themselves as mindless sheep. Obama says he thinks we should be able to pursue credible intelligence of AQ targets in Pakiston unilaterally, Clinton says “He wants to bomb Pakistan”, and her sheep begin chanting a monotone “He wants to bomb Pakistan”.
Her sheep then begin chanting “Rezko. Rezko”… probably because it’s easier to chant than “McDougal. McDougal”.
I have only heard the sheep mumble about the minister’s worship of Farrakahn, but how illogical is it for a Christian minister to openly admire a Muslim extremist anti-semite as well be a racist himself? I’d have to hear this minister express this to me himself to believe this isn’t just the Clinton Kool-Aid.
Anything allegedly corrupt about Obama, the Clinton’s have trumped him on all counts. Heck, Bill’s top business partner is the Emir of Dubai.
Elect Hillary. Let’s go ahead and have another Bush with different lies in the White House.
Posted by: Wml1963 | February 28, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Yeah, Jon, I read that as well. But then again the Canadian Government had no choice but to say that as they did not want themselves caught in the middle of a domestic election. What else did you expect them to say. Nevertheless, I did read Canadian papers today and there is a heck of a riot up there over NAFTA.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I mean, Can you believe these guys? Chasing a hot wind. I sense a lot of discomfort in the Obama Campaign. Even the media is not talking a lot about them now.
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I think it’s so funny that people knock Obama for not having enough experience, only being a good public speaker, talking about change that will never happen. Seems to me Bill Clinton ran a very similar campaign to the one Obama is know running. Clinton was a gifted public speaker, talked about how we needed change and reached out to the minorities, the poor. How many of the Hillary Clinton supporters thought Bill did a good job?
Posted by: Matt | February 28, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Nevertheless, it is not unusual for politicians on both sides of border to give heads up when candidates make unilateral statements over foreign policy. I see nothing wrong with the heads up between nations. Just the nature of the beast. Big boy politics. That’s the way I see it.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
I think Hillary just lost her bid to be Barack’s VP..
It’s mathematically very difficult for Clinton to get more pledged delegates than Obama.
Since Feb 5th, 6 of her Superdelegates have desserted her and flocked towards Obama. 50 superdelegates have joined Obama’s team.
Everytime Clinton insults Obama she is insulting the Superdelegates and pledged delegates.
Democrat Party leaders have already warned her about going negative.
She’s destroying her legacy and I can only wish her luck at it!
Obama for America – YES WE CAN! YES WE WILL!
Posted by: Ann | February 28, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Wrong again…After Hillary’s win Tuesday night I wont even sleep.
Posted by: MattOhio | February 28, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Matt – Hillary needs to win every remaining state 65-35 in order to have a chance to come close to Obama in pledged delegates.
It’s over man. It’s pretty much impossible. Better to start dealing with it now than keep putting it off – you know, like a flu shot.
Posted by: Jon | February 28, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
You just run with this one now Hillary – see where it gets you. I have never seen so many faces to one candidate in my entire life. LOL!
Posted by: marthlois | February 28, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Yes you can, Ann. Not sure what you can but whatever it is sounds somewhat serious.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Pledged Delegates:
Obama 1183
Clinton 1031
States won
Obama 25
Clinton 11
Popular vote:
Obama 10.2 million
Clinton 9.2 million
Posted by: Jon | February 28, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Matt,
I really admire you devotion.
But, you seem not to grasp any sense of reality in the situation the Clinton Camp find themselves in and the constant negative attitude Clinton has presented herself in te last few days.
You also do not debate facts but throw arguments similar in fact to the Clinton Campaign.
The November General Election will be between McCain and Obama. That will certainly be an interesting match-up.
Posted by: DavidB | February 28, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Look, I think Hillary is going to be a leader in our party for years to come, and will eventually make an outstanding Senate Majority leader. There’s worse things in life than having to choose between these two wonderful candidates. And, I’m sure many of you would have to admit a year and a half ago, you were arguing with your buddies how they just HAD to vote for Hillary (I know I was).
As far as the sniping between the two candidates…that’s politics! Hillary doesn’t want to concede her eventual defeat quite yet, and is clutching at straws. Let’s not lose sight that when Obama wraps it up, she will campaign her ass off for her party’s nominee!
It’s a new day in politics (and I, for one, am so thankful). Obama has been my guy since he jumped in because he gives this party a real chance to build a working majority for the conceivable future. We are standing on the precipice of the greatness we all know our party represents! Let’s not tear it down with stupid infighting. Stay focused. The biggest fight is yet to come. That’s when we will ALL have to combat the real “kitchen sink” politics that is sure to come.
Posted by: Eric | February 28, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Matt, do you have any reasons for voting for Hillary over Obama that haven’t been hand-fed to you by the Clinton campaign?
Man, and they talk about us being a cult lol. Every Hillary supporter I’ve met is like a drone set to repeat Hillary’s talking points.
Posted by: Jon | February 28, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Was anyone watching the debate?? TR asked a hypothetical question if Al Queida was completely out of Iraq and we pulled out our troops would we go back in Iraq again. Barack responded that as CIC he reserves the right.
It was a Hypothectical Question.
Apparently, Hillary read page 11 (in the Prologue) of “The Audacity of Hope.” What he actually says is, “Undoubtedly, some of these views [both progressive views and views critical of the Democratic Party] will get me in trouble. I am new enough on the national political scene that I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not all of them. Which perhaps indicates a second, more intimate theme to this book–namely, how I, or anybody in public office, can avoid the pitfalls of fame, the hunger to please, the fear of loss, and thereby retain that kernel of truth, that singular voice within each of us that reminds us of our deepest commitments.”
Well, Hillary, what about “the pitfalls of fame, the hunger to please, and the fear of loss”? Reckon you might have gotten caught up in any of these? Maybe you should read the whole book.
Posted by: Alan | February 28, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Let’s get one thing straight anyone who calls Obama a muslim extremist is a moron. You have to be a retard to believe in that line of crap. The other thing is, Bill Clinton was a terrific President. Just ask the people in Bosnia who still praise him for his courageous decision around our US intervention to prevent the genocide taking place there in 1998. Meanwhile practically ALL the Republicans were against the idea.
Go Democrats!!!
Posted by: It's me | February 28, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Man, now I feel stupid posting under Eric because he is right and is clearly the better man than me lol.
Posted by: Jon | February 28, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
What good things had Barack done to his consituents in Chicago?
The disservice of the media to our voter is appalling. Is there nothing worth reporting other than useless, hollow, biased and toxic comments spewed from those big mouth of so-called pundits and analysts.
Serious journalism is dying in this country. The mass are becoming dumber each year. Is there a secret agenda by these big corporate media to stupify the mass?
I hope Obama is not the last straw to sink this country. Scary…
Posted by: sludge | February 28, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Sludge:
Obama’s main accomplishments in Chicago include
Getting healthcare for over 200,000 children
Passing the toughest ethics reform bill in state history (as you may be aware, IL and Chicago is probably the most politically corrupt place in the country)
Reforming a broken death penalty system which had wrongly sent hundreds of innocent men to death row.
Posted by: Jon | February 28, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Thx Jon. Man, I’m just tired of this crap and had to get it off my chest. I know us Democrats are the thinkers in the political realm, but enough is enough! It’s ok to love ‘em both. It’s unfortunate either one of ‘em has to lose.
Posted by: Eric | February 28, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
There is every indication that we are tired of all the back and forth bickering between candidates, yet it goes on.
How did I choose between them? I wrote each campaign and asked about their position on an issue that was important to me. Both sent emails asking for donations and support almost immediately. One answered my question within 48 hours. That was the candidate I chose to support.
Hint: If she can’t run a campaign, she can’t run the White House. She was so sure she was going to have the nomination wrapped up by Super Tuesday she didn’t have any organization on the ground in Ohio & Texas. I really made up my mind when she had to lend her campaign 5 Million bucks. Why doesn’t she release her tax returns? Sorry, Hillary, I am just not buying it anymore.
Posted by: Tina | February 28, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
If Barack Obama wins the nomination and election, he will be the same age as former President Bill Clinton when he took office in 1993.
This is part Senator Clinton’s ludicrous strategy of using her opponents youth and alleged inexperience to deter voters is failing. If Mr.Obama was indeed as inexperienced and unqualified as she claims then how did he devise a successful plan to challenge Hillary Clinton, half of the most powerful brand in the democratic party? Mr.Obama is shrewd and brilliant, he built a phenomenal team and Mrs.Clinton underestimated him. As a Clinton supporter, I feel tremendously disappointed by the amateur way she’s run her campaign and I question her claim that she is indeed the superior candidate.
For all her petty and often graceless criticisms of Mr.Obama, never once has his campaign mentioned that Mrs.Clinton failed the Washington Bar exam. In view of her low road tactics and inept campaign, I’m seriously starting to question my commitment to a candidate who was a “star law student” and yet has failed to produce legitimate argument against her opponent in a race that should have been a walk in the park. Indeed, I find myself wondering about Mrs.Clinton’s judgment.
Posted by: Allegra | February 28, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
I don’t see black/white, man/woman.
I want a new I repeat, NEW president. GoBama.
fyi, female, dem, nw. IN.
Posted by: dc | February 28, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
I don’t see black/white, man/woman.
I want a new I repeat, NEW president. GoBama.
fyi, female, dem, nw. IN.
Posted by: dc | February 28, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Nancy, I have no idea where in the heck you’re coming from. What’s your point besides choosing comments that suit you? Afghanistan, for your info, under the European committee responsibilities is also NATO which is responsible for Afghanistan. Perhaps you need to do a little better research on your own and break away from the Obama website.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Just curious
Posted by: Kathie | February 28, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I never seen such desperate power-monger in my life. She will say and do whatever to get into white house again. Obama is peoples choice. She tried everything and failed miserably there is nothing she can do to derail this movement. Hillary, please go away no body likes to see you around anymore! Just disappear! get lost!
Posted by: Markos | February 28, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Thanx for the solutions Hillary. Im tired of the High school pep rallies with no plan from the other candidate. As anyone heard of this news??….
Michelle Obama’s thesis, “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community,” is unavailable until November 5, 2008 at the Princeton library. I wonder why.
She doesn’t want the american people to see what she wrote until after the election…hhhmmmm….
Posted by: Jay | February 28, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
I first started looking at this race in October disliking Clinton. After New Hampshire, I realized that she’s human and my respect for her began to grow. However, after her unnecessary and blatant attempts to gain pity these last few days, my respect for her has greatly decreased again. I don’t want her to represent what women are capable of. Because women are capable of being reasonable, of having the humility to admit when they do something wrong, and of picking up the pieces without blaming their setbacks on everyone else. It’s called carrying yourself with dignity, and that is one thing Hillary Clinton does not have.
Posted by: Laura | February 28, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Ill pass it along Markos. I’m sure Hillary respects your judgment so much I expect to hear the announcement tonight.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Congratulations Hillary supporters if she wins you get to have your President of the United States of Feminists/Old Hispanics/and the under educated. What a dream, I see why the passion is there now. Idiots, wake the hell up the Clinton’s are just as Corrupt as the Bushes. We need the least tainted choice, why not one with a million plus individual American donors from all walks of life. One last thing to those who can’t think for themselves. Obama is nothing close to Gearge Bush except in age at inauguration. Obam is an entirely self-made man who has not just succeded but exelled at everything he has set out to do. Come on Amrica wake up and take your damn country back. All this guy wants is for us to buy him and use him. He won’t rule us we’ll rule him. How bout that for a reverse argument. Donate and Vote Obama and you own him and our government? Argue that!!!
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
I guess she will try anything. The reason she is behind is because the voters see her as someone as old school, someone who has a shady past. She worried about her and Bill’s legacy. If she doesn’t win, all the shady people who lined their pockets will dry up if they are not in the White House.
And to think she cares about us? Does anyone see the trend of Ohio and TX? She is desperate.
Posted by: JerryZ | February 28, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Throughout this past few weeks I have seen how Senator Clinton consistently tries to make a point of something that Senator Obama says or does as if it is wrong or negative to do it and then she turns around immediately and says or does something exactly the same or similar.
She claimed that a candidate should use their ‘own words’ in the Texas debate and then in that very debate she closed using words of campaign phrases of her husband and Senator John Edwards!!!
And people were praising her for what she said!!!!
In this very article she suggests that Senator Obama is saying that he is a blank page (which Senator Clinton of course wishe to project as meaning ‘inexperienced’) that people project things upon. Then in the next comment when asked about women feeling sorry for her…she says she feels that they project things about her own life on to her!
She does things like this constantly… I have lost all respect for her. If she wins the nomination, I refuse to vote for her.
Posted by: LB | February 28, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
So, yeah I gotta call you out on the Bar exam comment. Have you ever taken a Bar exam? JFK, Jr. failed it three times. I don’t want to give the impression I’m not behind Obama, but really. That’s not a relevant at all.
And seriously, some of you are starting to sound like GOP mouthpieces. Our party is the strongest it has been in years, YEARS! It’s no wonder we lose elections with all this infighting.
Posted by: Eric | February 28, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Thank you Laura, On the other hand, do you mind if I see the exact opposite as you. When Obama gets put through the bad times as Hillary is experiencing right now I have no way to judge how he would or would not act under similar circumstances. Then we can judge apples to apples. Fair enough?
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
A man spent some time in the Illinois state senate.He ran for office. He lost a few. He finally won elective office to congress. He was a remarkable public speaker. He was elected as president.He changed the face of the nation.
Hmmm. Abraham Lincoln.
I guess experience is important. First lady of Arkansas.First lady of the U.S. Junior senator from NY.
I’ll take my chances!
Posted by: mikeinvail | February 28, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Hilary Clinton is simply a political mediocre. She can only act as commander in chief, but never can truly perform that. Compared to her ability she has already gained more than enough. For her, politics is a way of building someone’s carrier. That is why she could compromise with her husband few years ago.
Posted by: Politra | February 28, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
….since the hillaryclinton campaign keeps SHOVING down the throat of the electorate on “E-X-P-E-R-I-E-N-C-E”….. uuuuuUUUUUmmmmm….. presumably meaning: *THE AMOUNT OF TIME ONE HAS SPENT BEING AN ELECTED POLITICIAN”….
Doesn’t that mean that the electorate should vote for John McCain?????
Posted by: ArchieLeach | February 28, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
I find it interesting that people claim that Sen. Obama is so “fresh,new,and clean” and that he is not the usual politician. Yet when experience is brought up the same people claim that Sen. Obama has just as much, if not more experience than Sen. Clinton. Am I missing something here?
Posted by: NinAZ | February 28, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
America is a great country, a global leader.
The world is hungry ,for long time, to see an American leader who can be honored as great global hero. Obama is a gift of God for America. So protect him, elect him.
Posted by: Politra | February 28, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Lincoln didn’t pick up his marbles and run from the fight. He was a man! He stood for what was right despite the heavy loss of life and in spite the opposition. Obama is no Lincoln. Never ever go there again. You went too far.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Intelligence, wisdom, vision and diligence, thats JFK and he was not consisered a great or even good senator – he was bored by the senate – Could you blame him? try listening to a senator for more than one minute, yet he was a great president. Barack Obama has spent his life organizing leading and serving others, everyone talks of expeience – he has enough, look at the success and effiency of his campaign! Every other “experienced” politician has had major gaffs, miscalculations and financial hitches. The relative novice has run circles around every Democratic and Repulican candidate! You cannot do that with smoke and mirrors it takes substance and pin-point brilliance. We must realize that no perfect candidate is going to change our country its up to us – its our job not the government’s. wouldn’t it be nice to have our President as an ally that facilitates this great task? Instead of an old crum spreading fear and marching children not yet born off to the many wars he dreams about; including the 100 year Iraq War.
Posted by: Roger Bains | February 28, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
It is more amusing by the day to injest the socialist tripe spewed by the three leading “candidates” in this train wreck of an election. The two narcisists that call themselves democrats have FDR rolling over in his grave( Eleanor is elated with them).
Lest we forget the erswhile Mr McCain, we find no message at all. In 1960 a pudgy little man name Nikita said it all ” we will bury you, not by force of arms but from within…” I didn’t give it much credence then But we see he was correct,sadly.
Posted by: cuznmikie | February 28, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
When the international community is telling the US that Obama is a bad choice. We should take that into consideration.
For all those people out here who only read American news channels , your missing the big picture.
Obama is a joke , and the world is laughing at him. Come on people you have the internet! Use it.
Posted by: werdup | February 28, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Wil, that would be fine except they’re all already a bunch of apples on the congressional tree including Obama. He has played the game and is in no way 100% pure as a result but he has at least tried his hardest in his short time to stay relatively clean. Bad times, Domestic issues, Foreign Issues, don’t mean a thing if you consider that none of our nations problems can be solved according to the Common sense of the Common Majority regardless of what that means ie. republican, democrat, left, right. Democracy isn’t about what I want or you want and especially not what any individual special interest or lobbyist wants it’s about the voice of the American Majority. The Bushes and yes the Clintons have already proven their ineptitude at providing Americans this voice through good times and yes through the bad they have never fundamentally changed a damn thing. The very fact that this man is even openly preaching these points gives you and every Patriotic American reason to give him and his message serious consideration. Fair?
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Politra anytime you put Obama as God’s gift I have to wonder just what God do you have in mind? I was under the impression God loved us all equally. Perhaps you also talk with God and he told you this?
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Wil, you know and I know, that the photo being available is different than it being pushed to websites, news organizations etc. Which is why Fox shortly afterwards could run the story, “Proof That Obama is a Muslim?” with that photo as it’s tag. So that even if in the story, they could go ‘no no’ the damage via the image was already done.
That photo being pushed had no other reason than to try and use it as a smear. Even if the photo itself, wasn’t anything negative, per se. That’s how the Repub. slime machine works.
Posted by: Heidi | February 28, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Ray, on the narrow point you are fair in your assessment of majority rule. Nevertheless, it is therefore necessary to also point out that the majority may not apply where the electoral vote for President matters. For instance, Gore won majority vote but Bush won electoral vote. Here the minority rules. Fair?
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Hey werdup…before you start telling us your great worldly knowledge from your wonderful sources around the globe, isn’t the rest of the world laughing at us already? Bush for 8 years cost us that stake at credibility. No doubt they are going to be skeptical of any frontrunner in the States.
So what are these sources you’re referencing anyway? I’d loooove to know.
Posted by: Eric | February 28, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
The Clintons are coming off as power-grubbing people. What a turn off!
Posted by: dggiddens | February 28, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Hello, Heidi. It is my understanding that photo was printed by the Drudge Report. I have never read the Drudge report and would never have known this photo existed were it not for MSM news sites. Drudge, as you well know, is a republican hit site and I had immediate thoughts that this does not meet the smell test. I wondered why none of us really questioned or demanded that Drudge product proof of his claim. The last thing Hillary needed was this photo, believe me. Hillary needed this like a hole in the head. And that is exactly what happened. To this day I’m still wondering why none of us checked this out better.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Hillary strikes again. Empty slate, indeed! Hillary continues to behave like a desperate dog with fleas. Scratch here, scratch there, nip, bite, on and on. She hurls barbs at her opponent for “free press” and less Hill time “under the microscope”.
Hillary fans: time to give up that dream, as she is not fit to be POTUS. She is an accomplished liar, in fact that is her “political talent”. She has never been given clearance or authority to act as a delegate for our country. Her numerous travels to other lands were “vacations” at the expense of taxpayers. She was not a courier carrying secret documents. She didn’t sit in on top-secret meetings with VIP’s. It is a “fairytale’ she has spun to present herself as Secret Agent Hillary. This is one huge hot-air balloon she has inflated with bold outright falsehoods. She is Hot-air Hillary, and the press has let her off the hook too many times. We don’t need her or her conniving Bill back in the W/H. They did enough damage to this country. Too bad they missed the one big opportunity to really be America’s Sweethearts, with the capture of that well-known terrorist, Osama bin Laden.
Goodbye Clintons. Time for the curtain closure of the Teflon Team.
Posted by: Patricia3785 | February 28, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
To Allen, saunders, LisaH, Wendy, and especially you, Scrapiron: I hope there is a God, a just god, and I hope you meet her someday.
SJ, be comforted: I sincerely doubt that Wendy is an Obama supporter.
Yes, Hillary took the “blank screen” phrase completely out of context and twisted it for attack purposes. This is a tired and familiar strategy employed by her and her campaign. It seems that she’s using Obama as a blank screen to project herself onto, when she accuses him of Karl Rove-inspired attack politics – it’s a mirror she’s looking into, not a blank screen.
I’m a longtime supporter of the Clintons, worked for Bill in ’92, and I was looking forward with great anticipation to Hillary’s run for the presidency. She has lost my support, however, because of whom she has shown herself to be as a person and how she has run her campaign. Her conduct has caused me to recoil from her long enough to see that Obama is superior when it comes to his plans, his policies, his ability to inspire and lead, and his fearlessness in having the audacity to tell the truth: that change starts with me.
It is quite possible that the anti-Hillary feelings of some Democratic and Independent voters is not borne of sexism or any other prejudice, not to be decoded in some arcane calculus: it is quite possible that it is borne of a combination of Hillary’s failings as a candidate and the good perception and good judgment of those who have or will instead vote for Obama.
There will be a woman president some day soon. Unfortunately, Hillary is the wrong woman this time; just as Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Richardson and Kucinich were the wrong men.
I am not an Obama supporter bashing Hillary, I am an American whose support Hillary Clinton has lost and Obama has gained. We are all Americans, if we’re voting, all creatures of the world, and as John F. Kennedy said “we all breathe the same air, and we are all mortal”. There are many things we share, and let’s try to remember them as we vent in these pages.
Posted by: Anthony. | February 28, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Here’s my take on this Hillary about Obama not being around long enough. Besides the blatant insinuation that long enough implies he needs to know his place and wait his turn since you are entitled to a presidency, let me ask you a few questions.
1. How is it that you being around as many campaigns as you have that you had to loan money to your otherwise affluent campaign?
2. How is it that Mark Penn and Ickes cannot seem to get along and are publicly voicing their dislike of each other?
3. How is it a veteran like you who thought the primaries were in your bag by Super Tuesday, could not secure a strong win and have been losing since then?
4. How is it that as vetted as you are, you seem to keep complaining about the media and playing the victim card over and over again? Wouldn’t you know by now how to use the media to your advantage? If world leaders are not playing nice with you, who are you going to complain to?
5. How is it that you promised New Yorkers some 200,000 new jobs and there is now 30,000 job loss and all you can say that Al Gore wasn’t elected? Is Al Gore the only way for you to garner political support in DC? If that is the case then it tells me that you are all about making backroom deals instead of mobilizing political wills of people in Washington.
Hillary the more you attack Obama, the more desperate you look. You are hoping that something will stick and nothing has so far. This is because you are completely out of touch with the electorate and you think one of the strategies of Rove or 1990s campaigning tricks ought to work. Good luck on that. Continuing to attack a man’s character and record over and over tells more about you than about Obama.
Posted by: Alan | February 28, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
The thing I love about Hillary is Obama is a blank page but she has soooo much experience. Doing what? She didn’t have security clearance during her years as First Lady so what was all this experience she keeps talking about? The Clintons like the Bushes are what is wrong with politics. They would sell their soul, if they had one to get what they want. I only wish this primary season ends soon and Bill and Hillary fade away. She is a lousy example for women.
Posted by: wiseone | February 28, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Can’t all of you see that Hillary Clinton is a fake. All she wants is your vote to go back to the White House. She is not honest, why she doesn’t want to disclose her income tax returns? Something is fishy!!
Posted by: flora | February 28, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
I have become desensitized to Clinton’s remarks. Her words just do not carry weight. I don’t think she realizes it but it’s her negative remarks that has drawn the negative media attention.
Posted by: Juliet | February 28, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Hillary must live in a bubble.
Posted by: Joseph | February 28, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Hillary supporters all well know the majority of Obama supporters hate her, and hate the people who stand with her. Nothing new here. There are eleven million of us as well and not one of us can or will ever forget the ugliness of it all. You scream it often enough. We get it, okay. But we will remember it come November as well. We have no home with you people, nor do we ask or want one with you.
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Take the faces off the campaigns. Disregard the issues that don’t really matter because whether we are Republican or Democrat or Independent and no matter who we support we can all probably agree that our government hasn’t fixed the issues anyway. For example we’ve known we needed to get of oil and become energy independent since the seventies and since then we’ve had Repubs and Dems single term and two term presidents, repub and dem controlled congresses, Clintons and Bushes. Common denominator no change just more gradual government sell out and issue paralyzation. So eliminate your biases and be logical patriots and ask yourselves what has a chance to really work for actual change?
Campaign 1- primarily funded and run by lobbyists and political insiders recieving the fewest individual donations to date of the three
Campaign 2- funded by more than twice the lobbyist money as campaign 1 and run by political insiders. Also more than thirty million in individual donations.
Campaign 3- Run by lobbyists and political insiders but accepts no funding from lobbyist and special interests. Over 1 million individual amricans have donated close to 200 million dollars
So I ask which of these campaigns, none perfectly pure, has the best chance to enact the change needed acoording to the voices of America’s Majority? NO bias just logic? Which one?
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
“Everywhere I go people say ‘Don’t give up, don’t give up, stay with this.’” Clinton said, “There is something going on here.”
Sen. Clinton needs to go somewhere other than her own campaign rallies. The woman’s already in a bubble, and she’s not even the Democratic nominee.
Posted by: Kevin Giampa | February 28, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
The context of Obama’s quote would be convenient. Specifically because democracy (ideally) requires honest candidates to be a blank slate for those they represent. The citizens voice their concerns and a representative reflects those concerns, ideally beginning with a blank slate and not one that is controlled by other interests. Democracy without this blank slate approach is more like totalitarianism with 1000 tyrants.
Posted by: Joshua M Hill | February 28, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
BO is a good speaker and won a grammy! woo hoo!! That’s about sums up all his awards. On the other hand, the other candidates have a lifetime of accomplishments! I’ve heard many BO supporters say they like him because he is a “blank slate” (his own words) and has no experience and will let the people decide what direction we go. Hmmm…is that like voting ‘present’ and letting everyone else make a decision to see which way it lands? Wake up America, do your research on the fact – this guy is not ready for the presidency.
Posted by: Bobo | February 28, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Some more of Clinton’s “gutter politics”. The woman is blank to the fact that this kind of rhetoric is not what the voters want anymore. Hillary, you and Bill are of the past…get out now girl and enjoy your golden years.
Posted by: Mary | February 28, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
the other candidates have a lifetime of accomplishments!
Like what?
Posted by: Kevin Giampa | February 28, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
She is really getting desperate, isn’t she? What else is she going to come up with next?
Hillary, if you are as intelligent as you claim to be, show your real strength and grant your opponent the victory that is his. And move on with grace.
Posted by: marguerite manteau-rao | February 28, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Wil, of the millions of Obama supporters in the country, there are probably 10,000 at most who have ever posted in a political blog. Of that 10,000, there are probably 1,000 who could be perceived by a die-hard Clinton supporter to have gotten carried away in their attacks on Hillary. Many of them, I’m sure, have been whipped up by what they feel are unfair attacks on them and their candidate by carried-away Hillary supporters. Then there are some who are posing as Obama supporters, just as there are some who are posing as Hillary supporters, and there are a lot of neo-cons and race-baiters who are attempting to turn Obama and Clinton supporters against one another (see, in this blog alone, the likes of Allen, saunders, LisaH, Wendy and Scrapiron).
So please don’t fall into the trap, and don’t let the vocal few blind you to the silent many. If you stay home on election day because Obama is the Democratic Nominee, or if you vote for McCain, you will be putting at risk the lives of tens of thousands more innocent men, women and children around the world because you feel you have been slighted; hundreds of millions of Americans will labor for 4 more years and get nowhere because you will have helped put the chauvinistic party of the select few back in power; all the oppressed women of the world, e.g. from Saudi Arabia, will continue to have their spirits crushed because we will continue to feed the Saudi Royals by the billions every day, continue to kiss their feet while they keep women from driving, from voting, from leaving their homes unattended; freedom-loving people in the Muslim world, women especially, will suffer under the fanning flames of Islamic Extremism because you will have chosen to help put in power a man who will continue to wage war in the Middle East despite all consequences; think of all the women of the world who will suffer genital cutting and a universe of infamies because we have neither the resources nor the focus nor the political will to press for changes through our trade policy and other diplomatic efforts because we are throwing trillions of dollars down the money pit in Iraq (and soon Iran). Think of all the people in this country and around the world who don’t have four more years to wait — think, please, before you say you will not support Obama. If Hillary wins the nomination I will vote for her in November despite all the names I’ve been called by Hillary supporters after I’ve posted blogs that simply spell out differences between the two candidates and offered my opinion about the superiority of Obama’s leadership skills and his potential to actually enact any of the programs he’ll push for. I have been offended, but I will do the right thing for the country I love, and I will not be dissuaded by the insults of a vocal minority of Hillary supporters. Look into your heart, please.
Posted by: Anthony. | February 28, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Hillary should not be the nominee
And why? Easy. She’s the one the Republicans were counting on running against. She’s the one they’re ready for. Obama gives them goose flesh because they can’t get a real handle on him. He’s too off the beaten path. Attracting independents who would never vote for Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is a known quantity for the Republicans, an old foe they well know how to flog. Vetted? Give me a break. They know all her weaknesses and how to exploit them. I’m afraid that McCain will wipe the floor with her.
Posted by: ALan | February 28, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Wil, I think there has been a lot of vitriol on both sides, certainly here you see it just as much from the people supporting Hillary, as those supporting Obama. As well as just those Repubs who dislike either and will take a chance to bash either candidate.
But I would hope that every Hillary supporter or Obama supporter, would think of this country first, before their ego and wounded feelings about something on the internets. Politics are too important to have it be decided on how mean someone was to you on a messageboard.
If someone truly is a supporter of Hillary or Obama, than they know that there is zero chance that anything they mutually agree on (which is 95% of things) will get done under McCain. Especially now that he’s totally sold out to the Republican ideologies of Dubya/Cheney. If you don’t agree that Obama or Hillary will do enough for healthcare, NAFTA or repealing the tax cuts for the wealthy or getting out of Iraq before 100 years, you have to admit, they will totally not happen with McCain. At all.
So anyone who isn’t using vanity to decide their vote, who is a supporter of either Obama or Hillary, will vote for the other one in November. Otherwise you really don’t care about what your candidate stands for and and are letting them, and the country we all love, down.
Posted by: Heidi | February 28, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
I don’t really dislike Hillary, but it’s very evident how desperate she is now… telling women to vote for her just because she is a women, trying to say she has been the underdog since Iowa, refusing to see past Obama’s speeches to the content within…
Posted by: nsheorey | February 28, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Wil
I understand what happened in the Gore Election and that isn’t true democracy either. So you know where I come from and there are plenty like me as evidenced in the news reports and turnout numbers. I am a 26 year old White male who never voted and never cared to vote until this election. I have always been interested in our govt. and love our country but I was raised as an independant thinking American, as a result I have never bought into the argument that is shoved down our throats regarding voting as an act of patriotism or prerequisite to being a good American. Our govt. sold out long ago and our democracy has been nothing more than an illusion proped up by sham elections like you speak of and canidates bought and paid for by a priveledged few. In my opinion up until now Voting and supporting our “democracy” has been the equivalent of riding a bus that forces a minority to sit in the back. We citizens should have boycotted these politicians long ago was my opinion until Obama came along and flipped the script. He’s not perfect, he’s played the same game as the rest until now, until he had the platform to begin trying to change it. My fears aren’t based on who has experience and policy books, my fears are based on whether we ever actually get our country back before it’s too late. Everyone is right I know what I will get with Mccain and Clinton, nothing profoundly new or different and certainly no chance of we the people getting our democracy back, at least with Obama there’s a chance. Can he be lying? Yes but at least his message and campaign structure gives us a chance. If not him or someone else with the same mixture of message and finances I and many other first time voters will never vote.
Posted by: Ray | February 28, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Heidi I disagree, read my post above for the fair reason why.
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Thank you, Heidi. I invite you to read my post at 2:52:25 AM — we were apparently working on them simultaneously. I share and applaud your sentiments, and I beseech all commentators here (who are actually Obama or Clinton supporters) to take them to heart.
Posted by: Anthony. | February 28, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Obama’s team is trying to brainwash the public into thinking he has all the right answers and experience, but you can’t fade Hillary Clinton, she is the only one in this race that can actually handle the hard work and make change happen, Obama just dreams of change and he will get suckered into all the political mess if he becomes president. Obama has too much an ego, He talks and taks but he is already proving in his debates that he will not come through on his “change” vision that everyone wants. he won’t change anything, he will turn republican once in office and he won’t even realize it.
Posted by: Jason | February 28, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Here are the stats that matter, from the AP: In the 22 contested Democratic primaries so far, independents made up 22 percent of the vote and they supported Obama by an overwhelming margin of 64 percent to 33 percent. Crossover Republicans, a far smaller percentage in the Democratic primaries, backed him 55-33.
If Hillary can’t win independents against a “lightweight” like Obama then she doesn’t have a chance against McCain.
Posted by: Ed | February 28, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Anthony/ Heidi how is it a service to our country to vote for someone you don’t believe in just because they’re in you’re party? Especially if said party and said canidate are already part of the basic fundamental problems paralyzing our ability to honestly face the issues without bias but instead with regard to the voices of Americas Majority? A majority that sometimes on some issues will lean left and others lean right? A majority that regardless of ideolgy or personal opinion can’t be wrong by the very defintion of democracy?
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Jason,
it’s not Obama you doubt but your fellow citizens and even yourself. Read the consitution, check out some history on our Democracy, hell read the definition of democracy
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
WE IN EUROPEANS BELIEVE THAT EVEN WHEN HILARRY FINALLY WINS THIS CONTEST; SHE´S SHORT OF THE PEOPLE´S MANDATE; AFTER SERIES OF LOSSES ACROSS US:
Posted by: MAURICE | February 28, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
WE EUROPE BELIEVE THAT EVEN WHEN HILARRY FINALLY WINS THIS CONTEST; SHE´S SHORT OF THE PEOPLE´S MANDATE; AFTER SERIES OF LOSSES ACROSS US:
Posted by: MAURICE | February 28, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Who really knows how any canidate would be until after the fact.We can all speculate and guess upon he said she said or even reveal past mistakes as a measure,but we cant foretell how they will be in office.You never know how an employee will be until they put in a few hrs.You think you can but ive seen the worst of the best and the best of the worst and even ones you think because of their past they would be failures but not so.You hear promises of what they will do but until they are there it is different.Republican,Democrat doesnt matter to those who need someone to step up and unite and run the country with intelligence that helps the fellow man and not cater to the rich or power barons.You cannot tell the future of someone,only guess, so stop the rhetoric and bashing,America is getting tired of the same old ways and getting the same raw deal.I hope whoever gets in will work for the people as it should be and I hope we dont get another broken promise.Its a crap shoot.
Posted by: footballonthe1 | February 28, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
To the person that brought up Pakistan. Let’s not forget that Bush just did exactly what Obama was describing – unilaterally hitting a terrorist base within Pakistan without telling Mushareff. They claimed to have taken out one of the top Al Qaeda lieutenants.
Posted by: Cassie | February 28, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Anthony, Heidi, thank you for you post. Sorry I couldn’t answer, as I’m at work and Damn he’s here again. Gotta go
Posted by: Wil | February 28, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
ray, I would vote for McCain if I believed in him — it doesn’t matter that he’s a Republican, it’s his professed intent to continue the same failed economic, military and foreign affairs policies of the Bush Administration that I dislike and that I think would be disastrous for the country and the world. If you read my post carefully you will see that I was specifically addressing the idea that a Clinton Democrat would withhold their vote for Obama not on his merits as a candidate but on the basis of having been insulted by blog posters.
Posted by: Anthony. | February 28, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
It seems as though everytime I read an article about political current events, Hillary starts complaining about something new. I mean, I do not dislike her and I will support her if she happens to beat Obama in the primary because I am and will always be a democrat. However, her whole “fighter” image has totally gone down the drain. The crying bit in NH, the attack on the media, the obama speech spoof, and the “why do i always get the first question” whining at the last debate to me aren’t signs of a person that wins because of a hard fight, but a sore loser that shouts and screams until her opponent gives in. As a woman, I know that the only reason she is getting by without being called “catty” is because she has the Clinton last name
Posted by: Jovan | February 28, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Every blog I post on, I try to be fair and argue logic not ideology. I try and argue based on the basic democratic principle we supposedly cherish and hope to spread across the world. I also argue on behalf of my canidate of choice Obama but only using the above outlined criteria, not the played out sexist crap, or rebub smear machine crap, just simple pure logic. You know what I noticed, not very many of you in fact almost none of you Hillary peeps and Republicans argue my posts. I guess it’s because you can’t argue with logical unbiased debate based on real democratic principles not my own ideology. I support Obama based on that and nothing else. Vote Logic, Vote Democracy, Vote Obama 08 and the majority of america’s voices have a chance.If not go ahead and Vote illogical, Vote against true representative democracy, Vote against our founding fathers beliefs, vote ideology and Vote McCain or Clinton
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
anthony,
I understood your post I’m just sayin srew em all. They’re all fake sold out cronies of one interest or another. No canidate deserves my vote unless they at least try and return the govt. to it’s people. Cool?
Posted by: ray | February 28, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
I am no Clinton apologist so file this under “a ship too late to save a drowning witch”. I completely agree with her assessment of Sen Obama. He is a “uniter” a “catalyst for change”, “change you can believe in”… this may go down as the complete triumph of branding over substance. He promises whatever his audience wants to hear… abolish predatory credit card interest rates, ease bankruptcies, tax and punish all those nasty rich people… etc. YET he is only a first term Senator. Another claim to fame… he opposed the War, yes, but he did so in the comfort of the Illinois State Senate – NOT the US Senate. So this gives him the mantle of presidential authority… gimme a break. I’m glad I’m a Republican. You Democrats are crazy to nominate him, but go ahead. As I said I am no Clinton fan… either way you guys will not take back the Whitehouse! Keep on fighting – keep on exposing your obvious flaws! I do hope this fight goes all the way to Convention!
Posted by: smartprimate | February 28, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Obama may be a blank screen but Hillary’s is a tainted one. For example, voting for invading Iraq. If she represents the ‘checks of balances’, I’d rather begin with a clean slate. At least Obama has admitted to his past indescretions. Ok, Sen. Clinton has more experience in Whitewater. Oops, I meant the White House.
Posted by: Elgee | February 28, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
I fear when a man says he is here to bring unity and understanding to everyone, yet no one is allowed to call him by his full name, since it may sound like a muslim! First, if the name offends you, change it. Second, your actions and the actions of your suppporters in sensoring a muslim name does a lot of harm to muslims – you are saying anything muslim sounding is bad and should be rejected. So much for bringin unity and dignity to all people.
Posted by: Jack | February 28, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
I am also amazed at how Obama supporters are accusing the opposition of smear tactics when a real photo of Obama is shown in African clothing. This is a photo from last year that he took in Kenya. Now, if someone had doctored the photo, of course it would be a terrible campaign tactic but this is his own photo from last year. AND there is nothing wrong with wearing traditional clothes when you visit someplace. Any reasonable person would have said, yes that was a picture I took on a recent trip and in honor of the people I was visiting I wore their robes. But the way he has handled it is as if it is a crime to be wearing such outfits. Again another sign of lack of respect for others and bringing division to the world. This guy scares me. Today, when he is not in power he is trying to sensor the truth. So much for his slogans.
Posted by: Jack | February 28, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Clinton voted to give Bush authorization for going to war if inspections failed. She did this because there was actionable intelligence (the intelligence that later proved to have been false) that Iraq was a threat to our security. Now, Obama says he will invade Pakistan (UNILATERALLY) if there is actionable intelligence — Now where have I heard that one before! And he would also get out of Iraq but then has to get back in since there AlQeda there! Wake up America and smell the coffee.
Posted by: Brad_M | February 28, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
RE: Posted by: so saddened | Feb 28, 2008 11:53:41 PM |……
Make that a net loss of 3 votes for Obama. No way will I participate, in giving the nuke button to a green tin horn, smooth talking, “blank screen”. I’ll vote for McCain. If the Democratic party is dumb enough to go for this guy, then screw party unity, and go stuff it.
Posted by: Kevin - OR | February 28, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Jack
Why don’t you look up the numbers in the exit polling if you can find em or wait until the fourth and research it then. But look em up and see what percentage of american muslims vote Obama. I’m sure they’re not to offended. The use of the middle name, the use of the photo, the attacks against his pastor, questions about a non-affiliated supporter Farrakahn, Where he went to school as a kid for a few years, all that plus the smear emails that outright make untrue suggestions and accusations that he’s a secret terrorist. If it were you would you be a little hesitant to advertise your name to a nation who just hung Sadaam Hussein and is at war with terroists while all the above things are goin on? Come on man be honest. It doesn’t make him dis-honest or un-viable just a little human. Everybody gets a little self-concience sometimes. Yes he should just come out and address it all the time until it goes away, he probably will. Hillary has seemed farely self concience about her vote and just barely only recently almost apoligized, and I bet McCain got a little touchy during the whole Keating 5 scandal so like I said before. Check out the exit polling, Obama is winning everyone man, except for old hispanics and feminists. They’ll be on the bandwagon soon enough, well except the feminists of course.
Posted by: ray | February 29, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Brad_M,
You say Obama will “invade” Pakistan… wake up and read the paper. Obama has proposed the very same military tactics that the Bush Administration has (finally) used in the last couple of weeks to attack senior Al Qaeda figures in Pakistan. In an attack a week or two ago, actionable intelligence was gathered that pinpointed the location of Al Qaeda’s third-ranking member and an armed predator drone was used to take him out with a missile. This attack was not sanctioned by our “friend” and “ally” Musharaff (the dictator we’ve given billions to so that he would help us fight the terrorists — you know, the one who has let them regroup and become stronger than ever within the borders of his realm), nor any other party inside the Pakistani government. Another attack in the last few days killed eight militants. I suppose you support the idea of letting Al Qaeda operate with impunity inside Pakistan… either that or you’re simply uninformed (in which case you shouldn’t waste other people’s time with your baseless opinions)… or perhaps you’re distorting Obama’s words because you can’t find anything to attack unless you make it up out of thin air… much like his political opponents, both of whom ignore the truth when they, too, distort his words and take them out of context so they can try to confuse voters and win votes that they don’t rightly deserve.
Clinton didn’t wait for inspections to fail — she voted to authorize military action, and she did it without even reading the intelligence report (by her own admission).
Try telling the truth — maybe someone will be convinced. Lies won’t work — not this time, not this year.
Posted by: Anthony. | February 29, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Let’s face it. United States is still a sexist country and women are looked down as weak and incapable of leadership. For most men women have difficulty doing their work since they periodically have emotional imbalance. I personally experienced it in the office setting. I was in sales then. We have a female manager who is basically a can do attitude and will never take no for answer and she gets things done. During conferences, whenever she discusses the need to achieve a target quota and feel passionate about it, the male chauvinists will say derogatory remarks behind her back like “Ms….. is pushing us again, must be the period, huh”.
A lot of male in the electorate will not admit to it but subconsciously, whenever a female above their rank asks them to accomplish a task, they silently say “who the f** are you, bi**”. It is no surprise that the same is being reflected in the current election.
Also it is a fact that the media, through the idiot box called television, dictates who to vote for in this coming election.
The same media who promoted a uniter and stained Al Gore eight years ago. The same media who kept quite about the election anomalies in Florida. The same media who kept quiet in the run up to the Iraq war. The same media who made Howard Dean look bad when he rallied his followers almost four years ago so the vulnerable John Kerry will make it to the nomination. The same media who pictured John Kerry as a flip flopper and made him lose the election. The same media who kept quiet about the anomalies in Ohio.
Now the media is at it again. For almost a year now they have stained the Clintons and constantly harped on the negatives while putting Obama on a pedestal as if he is pure and holy and devoid of sins.
I have always been a fan of Keith Olberman and never missed any of his shows until of late when I noticed that he kept hitting Sen Clinton and treated her with disdain while singing song of praises for Sen Obama. It is a pity. Keith should have stayed neutral. Unfortunately he proved himself no different from the man he loves to chastise – Bill Oreilly. The only difference is that they are in the opposite side of the political spectrum and have opposite agenda.
Let me give an example of the latest media partiality. A civil rights leader jump ships to Obama camp because he has to follow the will of his constituents and it is featured in the news every fifteen minutes. Now, how come nobody in the media ever questioned the fact that John Kerry, Edward Kennedy and Deval Patrick haven’t changed their vote from Obama to Clinton to follow the will of their constituents?? Is it because it may hurt the chances of Sen Obama and hinder the bandwagon for him?
Posted by: Daniel Jarvis | February 29, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
I am amazed by the level of debating of Clinton’s supporters, from names calling, defamatory falsehoods, keeping on spreading every lamentable falsehoods like the “look he is in my propaganda an horrible muslim that should make you feel threatened as a bigot” disgusting smearing of a Clinton’s campaign who played a neo-nazi like xenophobic card. They are so pathetic that i will soon be glad to see them back to where they belong, to the trash.
Posted by: Muhahahaha | February 29, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Clinton accuses Obama in this article of being a “blank screen” who “people of widely different views project what they want to hear” She then goes on to say that “I think a lot of woman project their own feelings in their lives on to me.” So why is it acceptable for women to have an emotional connection to Hillary, but when people do the same to Obama, they are just deluded? This is another example of hypocrisy coming from the Clinton campaign; It’s okay for them to indulge in negative campaigning, but when Obama does it, they cry and play the victim.
Hillary is a hypocrite,a chameleon, and a weathervane, and her attacks on Obama have all failed because they lack substance. Negative attacks must have at least a grain of truth to them to succeed. When Obama accuses Hillary of supporting the Iraq war when it was politically popular it hurts her because it is true; when Hillary accuses Obama of not REALLY being against the war, it just makes her look foolish.
Posted by: John | February 29, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
annie from la why don’t you scroll up and readd my previous post advocating Obama as Iv’e just read yours I’d respond but my previous posts make the point against yours fairly clearly and more logically. I challenge you to rebut.
Posted by: ray | February 29, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
I hear a lot about Hillary’s experience, but what about her successes? Does she have anything?
I also hear that she’s pro union, but wasn’t she on the board at wal-mart? Did she succeed at changing the minds of the wal-marters to go union? I think not.
Seriously, what has her 35 years of experience yielded?
The reason I support Obama is his lack of Washington experience. Hillary is just too old school Washington.
Posted by: T in Ohio | February 29, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
What Obama meant by the “blank screen” statement was that people see in him a person that cares about them. The reason Obama has so many supporters from all races, sexes, income groups, etc. is because they believe that he truly understands them. It’s all about empathy. This is a quality of a good leader and one that very few politicians possess. Abraham Lincoln had empathy. FDR had empathy. Hillary Clinton, unfortunately does not have this quality. She may want to help people but I think it’s hard for people believe that she really understands them. She is a doer, not a leader.
Posted by: Janet | February 29, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
oh yeah I do it without bias or any sexism just logic and democratic principles that your canidate simply does not measure up to. So again I challenge you to scroll up and read my previous 3-4 posts advocating Obama, they aren’t the hateful ignorant arguments of some and I even declined to name the littany of true and substantiated evidence of corruptions and shady ties the clintons come with. Please I challenge you to state Hillary’s case based on logic and democratic principles and nothing more. I think you may find yourself thinking about removing your feminist hat and realizing she simply is not the one. One day the right woman will come along and the arguments of logic and principle with fit with her and she will be President. That will be a glorious day, the reality is Hillary is no more or better qualified than dozens of distinguished woman Senators, Governors and diplomats. The difference is her fame and privaledge. It’s simply about the whole package and she doesn’t quite have a big enough one because this guy is actually bigger. If she were the right women it would be no contest.
Posted by: Ray | February 29, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Real change does not seem about to happen. Too many deluded. I am a Democrat voting for Huckabee, hoping for real change, but of course it would take a “miracle” for him to win. No one looks at his policies or platform because they are all put off by disagreement with his “values.”
If I have to vote Democratic I will vote for Hillary, as I do not want a blank screen. That blank screen could hide things we know not of. That’s really scary. Aren’t you scared, blank screen lovers?
Posted by: Mariel | February 29, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
She is just letting everyone know Obama has a clean slate to start from!
Vote Obama!
Posted by: O H | February 29, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Hmmm. Let’s get this straight. Clinton opines that Obama’s a blank screen people project things onto (naughty, naughty), and then declares she’s a blank screen for women (which is a good thing, apparently).
I guess that summarizes how she sees the election process–a battle of the blanks to get lost souls to project meaning on them. Not so inspiring when you think about it… No wonder Clinton doesn’t wear well with folks.
Posted by: Gomer | February 29, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
The title of this article is misleading – yet another media turn to make Hillary look bad. She is not putting Obama down by her comment. In fact she’s giving a very accurate reason as to why people are following Obama. Unfortunately too many people in the USA listen to what they want to hear – not to what is really being said. If they really heard what was being said, they’d see Obama, although a great speaker, isn’t saying anything new! He’s just a politician. And, I for one, won’t be voting for him.
Posted by: reillish | February 29, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Obama followers are told to not talk about his record… but to talk about their own “personal conversion” to Barrack Obama. Why? He has NO RECORD! His campaign and followers appears “cultish” on a level way above Ron Paul. At least Ron Paul’s “change” is based on policy not on the man. (and it’s less gov’t not MORE). I’m not a ‘Paulnut’… but I’d vote for him over B.O. because I know where he stands.
Posted by: Brad | February 29, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Quote from Ryan: Clinton you raised $35M, Obama you raised $50M. (pause, pause) Obama YOU are the next American Idol!
Posted by: Kevin | February 29, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Hillary show us those tax returns????
Posted by: NANDO | February 29, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Obama supporters. Ignore Hillary. I thought she used to be somewhat intelligent but the last few weeks of he campaign how made it evident that she is not and is not qualified to be president. She just keeps coming up with foolish slogans as a reason not to vote for Obama. She is not a threat to win anymore.
Posted by: Rick | February 29, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Brad-nice quote from Froma Harrop
Posted by: Rick | February 29, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Hillary whiners. When you say stupid things like this as she often does you will get negative media coverage. It is not because the media is against her but rather she is the one providing them with negative information.
Posted by: Rick | February 29, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
This is the first chance we have had in most of our lifetimes to put the bitter partisan politics that fails to get anything done aside. The politics that has been dominated by the Vietnam generation is vile and idiotic. It never achieves anything, just two camps of people fighting over even the most mundane issues. Its time for that generation to give up its hold on our country and for the new generation to take over. We don’t care what feuds the boomers have from Vietnam, we’re only interested in our country and making it better, not settling a 30 year old feud. Obama is our one chance for that, otherwise expect another 8 years of partisan nonsense from either McCain or Hillary.
Posted by: WallStreetNobody | February 29, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
Joel-Obviously that is not a nuetral site and it will distort the truth. I did not even read any articles but I can tell form the front page about its inablity to tell is straight.
Posted by: Rick | February 29, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Hillary’s ego knows no bounds. She has lost the election due to how she treats people. I mean she has insulted every state that she has lost and continues to insult her opponents in her vain attempt to be president. Hillary you will never have my vote. I’ll either stay home, write in Obama or vote McCain before I vote for someone that acts as low and ugly as you.
Also, please stop playing the gender card. Just because Hillary is a women does not make her more or less qualified to be president.
Also, Obama has more experience than HIllary. Obama has been a community organizer, state senator, and a US senator. Hillary has only been a senator. The years as first lady are not experience, so please stop attempting to say they are.
Posted by: Bill | February 29, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
She implies that people project things upon him even when they don’t know what they want. That is what makes me most afraid, her implying that she knows what is best for us. Here comes NannyState 2.0.
Posted by: Bill ZaBub | February 29, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Obama’s record for the momos who don’t research or listen to the man himself
While on academic scholorship he graduated top of his class at Harvard Law School and was President of the Law Review there. After school instead trying to get super rich he went to Chicago and worked as a cicil rights attorney and with churches and the local govt. as a community oraganizer giving him a wide range of experiences that only added to his multicultural, multinational life experience and background. He also taught and lectured for some years on Constitutional Law. He was so highly regarded after doing these things that he was basically handed his state senate seat albeit with a few cuthroat moves to beat his mentor. In one of the most corrupt state governments in the country he passed significant ethics legislation. Almost all his former colleagues and opponents from the state senate now support him. So that was his first 20 years of professional life. 100% self-made, hardworking, and consistently on the side of the everyday people he represented as lawyer, activist and organizer, professor, and state-senator. Then he gets to the Senate and immediately thrusts himself into the fray and gets passed a law regarding ethics reform again, this time at the federal level. He has been one of if not the most prominent people in this country to speak out against the Iraq war from conception. He has been an incredibly gifted speaker since he ran for president of Law Review at Harvard, a skill to be exploited not decried democrats. Not to mention he happens to be running a campaign that is breaking every numbers record in our country’s history. He is the most unique blending of modern american culture any presidential canidate has ever been. He has a parent from Kansas and from Kenya giving him unique and authentic empathy for both positions on immigration, he is multi-ethnic giving him a unique and authentic empathy to America’s diversity and its minorities as well as the established classes. Hell even his middle name is Hussein, this guy has got to be in the right moment folks. It is time to tear down all the walls and time we do it ourselves before we infight to our country’s demise. This guy is the closest we have had and will have in a long time of actually having a President that is literally one of us, all of us. He is no ordinary man, certainly after Harvard but he has done nothing over the last 25 years except try and be exactly that, an ordinary guy doing extraorinary things. Thats what he wants us all to do and he wants to help us try becuase he truly knows, and believes in where he came from. Unite 08/ Obama 08
Posted by: Ray | February 29, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Heh. She is basically saying, that BO’s supporters are delusional and have no idea what they are doing. Way to rally his support, Hill. It works every time. BO can’t help that people have listened to him on the issues and have decided they will vote for him. The fact that she believes that she is OWED this presidential candidacy is ridiculous. She has an entitlement problem here. She seriously thinks BO thought he would get the support he has now. He is just as surprised as the rest of the world. Two terms in the Illnois State Senate is not having experience? Is she nuts? Technically, he’s been in elected office longer than she has. I will vote for her if she gets the nomination but she is really annoying me at this point.
Posted by: Rainy | February 29, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
Hillary always gives negatives information about OBAMA.These all contributed for her to lose this nomination.The more she criticizes Obama, the more people continue to adore him. I think Hillary is in complete desperate.It is the reality
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 29, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
Hillary always gives negatives information about OBAMA.These all contributed for her to lose this nomination.The more she criticizes Obama, the more people continue to adore him. I think Hillary is in complete desperate.It is the reality
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 29, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
Reading all the hateful, blatantly hypocritical responses from the Clinton fanatics, it makes me very glad to know that Democratic voters are marginalizing this element of the party.
Posted by: Lewis | February 29, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
I think I hear jealousy talking.
Fact: Obama relates to and connects with people.
Fact: Hillary does not.
So according to her this has to mean he is a blank screen and the people who think they know something of him are just projecting fools since it couldn’t possibly mean the real Hillary is manufactured and that any Hillary she cranks out is simply is not selling well enough at the ballot box.
Hey Hillary? How many times are you going to keep calling us delusional. I mean, gee, that’s such a winning campaign strategy.
Posted by: SE Croft | February 29, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
You’d best monitor the comments on this site. This section is laced with racist attack, false information, and epithets that should be removed. At the very least “denounced and rejected.” Take more care. If you do not, we will have to assume you stand behind them, and we will have to make that public.
Posted by: Wendy Gailmor | February 29, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Behind the populist veneer, Obama is a slick politician backed by a slick-running political-marketing machine. Has he ascended because of a genuine and natural process? I don’t think so
– he’s been groomed over the longer period of time via insider book deals and a prechosen prime-time speaker spot at the last Democratic convention.
It saddens me that so many young voters in Obama’s corner are not asking harder questions about this man and why he is being allowed to cakewalk to the Democratic nomination. Who really is backing him? Why has the press failed to dig into his political past — why has he not been vetted to date?
It seems so often we blame the old for the mistakes of the country — this time around the finger pointing will be at the young voters whom blindly follow the Obama spin. Please think hard before opting for an unseasoned and solely political player to carry the Democratic mantle.
Posted by: Concerned Austinite | February 29, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
It is sad that people can not see through Obama. Not matter what comes out on Obama, his supporters will defend him to the end. This the same thing that happen with Bush. Supporters agreed with him about everything he said and did and look what kind of mess he got us in. It appears that people want to live in an illusion rather than in reality–the reality that Obama is all talk!!
Posted by: Df123 | February 29, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
It is sad that people can not see through Obama. Not matter what comes out on Obama, his supporters will defend him to the end. This is the same thing that happen with Bush. Supporters agreed with him about everything he said and did and look what kind of mess he got us in. It appears that people want to live in an illusion rather than in reality–the reality that Obama is all talk!!
Posted by: Df123 | February 29, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
You at ABC discuss me. It seems you are in the buisness of broviding Clinton with a blank screen to say whatever she pleases, ABC shows unbwliavable bias in favour of clinton, I no longer use your services. This woman is a criminal and you know it. The people that pull the strings there would rather see a criminal back in the white house than someone who would actually gwt something done
Posted by: Peter Paul | February 29, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
What Hillary says about Obama thinking he would wrap it up after Iowa is ridiculous. EVERYONE knows that she and her camp thought that they would have this nomination in the bag after Feb. 5th. People in her campaign have said so and site that as the reason that they were so unprepared to compete with Obama in the following races. Now she is turning it around to make herself look like the victim, as always.
It’s amazing to me that all Clinton has to do is continuously repeat the same lies over and over and people just buy into them. Say what you will about Obama but at least he doesn’t treat people (especially his own voters) like morons. Clinton supporters should be outraged, not Obama supporters–we’re not the ones being lied to.
Posted by: Heather | February 29, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
If Obama is a blank screen, then Hillary is a “rerun” of a sitcom from the 90s. I haven’t decided which one to vote for, if at all. Might be any of them at this point but the name calling and labeling is getting to be sophomoric.
Posted by: david | February 29, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
What negative attacks against Obama? She’s telling the truth…lol. People don’t like that she does that which is why alot of people don’t like her, she speaks her mind.
Posted by: J | February 29, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
Wow, I guess all of those who voted or are going to vote for Barak are blank screen lovers. Hillary is so sad. She attacks Barak every time she gets a chance. She should realize that this is turning the vast majority of Americans off. Just look at the delegate count for proof.
Posted by: Shawn | February 29, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
Two years from now I want to come back if Obama is the nominee and say “I told you so”. Wake up from your dream world America!
Posted by: J | February 29, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
Blank screen! :) Well, HRC has never had to work hard for an elected office in her life until now and it shows. On the other hand, BHO had to work for his elected offices (at least in the primary; I’ll concede that the Republican opposition in his Senate race was a joke)
In fact BHO even lost an election in 2000.
So, if we go by how the campaigns have been run up to now, it is clear that BHO is far better qualified to be President.
Ms. “Ready from Day One” was completely unprepared with a plan B after February 5′th.
Posted by: ollie | February 29, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
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Also I am not quit sure what god is ”
But I no this much ‘He wants Hillary to have a “FAIR” “Election”
I also no this If she don’t he is going to bring this country to it’s knees” see
It is really his”
god wants a woman to have a try at this thing to ”
God is god you can say all kinds of terr able bl able about it I do not care”
He made me And I am employed by him and i will type this if you don’t like it find another earth to go mess up”!
Posted by: richard sievert | February 29, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am
I see Obama as an honest man who is a family man and a Christian man. He is as bright and articulate as any politician I have ever heard/watched in my long life. I’m one of those honest to God Independent voters who every now and again votes. It’s so rare to experience a chance for meaningful change in this locked down two party system. Short of another Revolution this is the closest thing we can have; a chance to vote convictions and after doing so feel good about it. Our wonderful country is failing, our dollar is now at 75, after these past 7 years of a void of any appearance of leadership or intellect. Just an evil group of men and women with an evil agenda. We’ve let them destroy this country. We need drastic change in leadership, not just a repeat in Dynasty. Bush,Clinton,Bush,Clinton – no more, sick of it!
Posted by: Lenoirlady | February 29, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
Oh, lord, please deliver us from the various Hillarys. When she’s not whining, she’s shrieking. When she’s not shrieking, she’s mocking. When she’s not mocking, she’s insulting. The country wants a divorce — from her. It’s gonna be over soon, right?
Posted by: ched | February 29, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Has Hillary released her tax records yet or her White House papers yet like she said she would in the last debate?
Posted by: geezer | February 29, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
does she realize how ridiculous she looks when she says idiotic things like this – like him of not – he is not an empty screen – just because i can give an inspirational talk about being fit and exercising does NOT mean I don;t know how to do shoulder surgery – in reverse just because she lacks the ability to give inspirational speeches does not mean she is without ideas or incapable of being a good president – unfortunate for Hilary Barack can do but – be a good president and be an inspirational leader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: fixbone | February 29, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
This seems to be all about 2 things: who has the most money to run their campaigns, (who has the best CAMPAIGN not experience), and who the press likes the most.
Obama has no experience to speak of, has voted only “present” over SIXTY times in his extremely short tenure, and is a wonderful speaker only.
How many of you that own or manage businesses would hire a top executive with no experience, just because they sound great?
Posted by: terrie | February 29, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Is this something even worth reporting about? Mrs Clinton have made her opinions clear about Mr Obama and frankly the Democractic Party and its supporters have heard enough. We will speak again in Vermont Rhode Island Texas and Ohio on March 4th. The Clinton camp seems to spend a lot of time feeding on dirt about their opponent and her collague that American citizens in general, will prefer not see any anymore mud-slinging in or at the White House. The next four years will not be enough to clean up the mess of so called legacies. So maybe a blank screen is just what we need.
Posted by: keith robinson | February 29, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
Keep on attacking, Hillary. It’s worked so well for you so far.
The Clintons plainly just don’t get it. It’s the toxic attack politics, stupid! The more she attacks, the more votes go to Obama.
Seeya, Hill
Posted by: ched | February 29, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
I guess this means she intends to march on even after she loses Texas or Ohio. She will drag this down to the lowest denominator before she quits.
Posted by: sherbug | February 29, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
Ray,
You better stay home and don’t vote. Because election is not a game, don’t expect anyone could clean the mess left over by Bush overnight. Voting for someone who has no experience in public service and is not very well known in background could harm more to this hopeless country than good. Did you recall that Mr. Obama had skip to vote 160 times or always voted as “present” while he was State Senator in Illinois. And I wonder what he should do and say if he was U.S Senator at the time U.S invaded Iraq? In fact, it’s always easily criticizing others for the work they did than the work he didn’t have a chance to do it.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
Blaming of the Shrew………
It’s time Hillary gets it. Dubyah hasn’t, and now we have one of our prime Democrats refusing to look at reality. Face it Hillary, I am a lifelong Democrat, a fan of yours and Bill’s, and voting for Barack. Stop blaming him for all of your misquotes, and problems on the campaign trail. This process is about what the people want. Would you take that away from them? It seems to me they are making a pretty clear statement about what they want……………..
Posted by: operalovr | February 29, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
Amazed that some still buy the schitckt that Hillary is “hurt” by media bias when even since her initial eante (carpetbagged ala RFK) Senate run, she was promoted as setting the path for her Presidential campaign and given so MUCH free press and who has been presented more often than NOT as THE INEVITIBLE 2008 candidate, especially since 2004. NONE gave credence to Obama being a “serious contender/threat” to that premise and even NOW, she continues to receive coverage that allows her to remain a VIABLE candidate even thou lost ELEVEN of the last four primary voter choice “awards”, is doen in delegates and mathematically, even IF she won Texas and Ohio , still would NOT overtake the numbers that Obama has nor achieve a CLEAR VICTORY as THE PEOPLES CHOICE. Had such been the reverse, Obama LOSING eleven, he would be OUT by now, cancelled and set aside. Yet we the people are YET told how VIABLE Hillary (along with Bill) is OUR most likely nominee !! We once again are being “psyched” out and further manipulated and is obvious, OUR VOTES DO NOT COUNT, it is US, the people who are NOT viable or valid !!! HURUMPH !!!
Posted by: Bozly | February 29, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
operalovr,
You are only one of 10 millions who vote for Senator Obama so far. How about the other 10 millions (not including Florida and Michigan) who vote for Hillary Clinton? Should their voices be heard?
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
To the person who ignored issues and electability, and said the only REAL change would be a woman, because that different I say, in a bowl in my kitchen, there’s an avocado running for president, now THAT would be a real change. Should we base out votes on who’s the biggest change, or on who has the clear ability to bring voters to the polls and beat the Republicans in Nov.
I like Hillary too, but folks, this is over, time to get on board….
Posted by: A. Citizen | February 29, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am
Hillary Clinton is as intellectually dishonest as her husband has proven to be when either of them want something badly. Her husband, the charmer, has shown her the ropes of manipulating the public and as a victim of his lack of loyalty and personal ethics, she has adapted to survive. She has embraced him and his behavior, else she would have to face the fact that he is a serial adulterer and should have been dumped years ago. It is so much easier for her to see them both as victims of the Right, errant women and Senator Obama. I am constantly amazed how Americans have literally dismissed the fact that this woman has had a husband who has given her 30 years of serial adultry. His coup de grace was to humiliate her publicly while still in the White House. No one seems to consider the impact this has had to have on her self-esteem. I know she tells us she was chanting a prayer with her fingeres in her ears during all of this. Ha!Yet everyone seems to look at them as though none of his contemptuous behavior happened. I do not believe this is a healthy marriage. It has survived for the most superficial of reasons…personal ambition, arrogance and interdependent enabling. These are two people who need to step away from public life and do a little meditation on what it means to behave like a decent human being. They have lied,obfuscated and manipulated their whole public life. Hopefully for Americans they will not survive this last scorched earth attempt to get to the White House.
Posted by: anghiari | February 29, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
A. Citizen,
I agreed. If you like gamble then go ahead vote for Senator Obama because the outcome is unknown. Anyway, I will give up might right to vote or vote for John McCain if Mr. Obama won the nomination. I don’t want to game my kid’s future for someone is not very well known.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Hillary is so right. The media has been mis treating her…I will vote for her kowing she has the experience to go right to work for our country.Obama has the looks but not the smarts. The Blacks are giving us a message of being discriminating as they are voting not for who is qualified but voting because he is black.
Posted by: herb | February 29, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am
A. Citizen,
I agreed. If you like gamble then go ahead vote for Senator Obama because the outcome is unknown. Anyway, I will give up might right to vote or vote for John McCain if Mr. Obama won the nomination. I don’t want to gamble my kid’s future for someone is not very well known and has no experience.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am
The only change Obama could bring to this country to be defeated after all the hard work of the democrats and watch passing the keys from Bush to McCain. He has no chance in a general election this fairy tale must stop somewhere.
Posted by: John Prescot | February 29, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am
A person going by the handle “Ray”, posted quite an elegant summary of Barack Obama several posts above. I have been a politically active Chicago resident since the mid nineties and Barack Obama hasn’t been a secret here for a long time. He is “new” to plenty of people across the country, but he is certainly not “new” to politics. Anyhow, please vote how you truly feel, but be informed. Don’t form your opinions based on what pundits say on blogs. Obama did use the blank screen phrase, but you need to understand the context, not just the snippit. Read his books, he has published two of them. His website is very clear on how he stands on issues. Read and educate yourselves. Not just Obama, but McCain and Clinton. They have both published works as well. Read them and vote how you feel after that. You will never get a true understanding of how these people will represent you from what you hear pundits and opponents say. Unless you have been represented by these people in the past, you need to go to them to find out how they stand on issues. Please, lets all be informed voters this year.
Posted by: Randy | February 29, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am
John Prescot post: “The only change Obama could bring to this country to be defeated after all the hard work of the democrats and watch passing the keys from Bush to McCain. He has no chance in a general election this fairy tale must stop somewhere”
Good post. I wish the liberal DEM including the top leaders from Democrat Party who dream about “CHANGE” or against Hillary Clinton understand it.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am
Randy,
I don’t have a chance to read Obama’s book. But to convince me voting for someone who had skip to vote 160 times or vote as “present” in Illionos’s Senate, a PLAY IT SAFE game, is very difficult.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
I will be PROUDLY and CONFIDENTLY voting for Hillary (early voting)next Monday(she’s so inspiring and smart) and tomorrow I am very exited we are going to Dallas to see her speak.
(hope we don’t get shot!):/
Posted by: texsara | February 29, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
Clinton supporters: for once, take a moment and with clear-eyed objectivity listen to what Hillary said in this interview. Does she really expect us to believe that Sen. Obama assumed he had this race in the bag after Iowa? That is absolutely ridiculous. She, who had NO PLAN after February 5 because she assumed she would have it in the bag; she who has assumed the mantle of the front-runner.
It’s fine if you want to support her based on her policies, but do us all a favor: when she lies, call her out on it. This is absolutely absurd, and THE BIGGEST REASON I have turned my back on her. She is not doing the party any favors by disenfranchising voters like me, who she will need in November, if she becomes the Democratic nominee.
Posted by: Unbelievable | February 29, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
I continued to be offended by Hillary claiming to be a victim to get votes. I was a woman who worked in management at a Fortune 100 company and I succeeded because of intelligence and hard work. There are obstacles for women, no doubt, but the “poor me” approach is not the way to change attitudes. Will that work with Putin?
I live in Illinois and am proud to be represented by OBAMA. He was not the choice of the democratic machine in his democratic primary run for Senate, he won the nomination and the election by hard work and meeting the voters across the state…not just in Chicago. Having supported him through his whole career in Illinois, he is not a blank screen, he is a truly unique individual.
Posted by: KJL | February 29, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
Hillary is really the person to be president in these times. She is a very strong knowledged individual. Obama would be the proxy of so many , cause he doesn’t know anything.I am not predijuce aganist anyone, race or religion. But we must be wise in the reality as to who we put in high places. Qualifications do matter. Don’t give me a rookiee surgeon when my life is on the line, Thankyou.
These are the most critical times of our nation, And Hillarys solutions are the best out there. With Obama or McCain what will this country come to ? McCain backs Bushes Failed policies, Obama has yet to say & prove who he actucally is. So far he says he is a blank screen. Drug & alcohol abuse can make ones brain blank. It doesn’t take any thinking to repeat, copycat, or sound like a tape recorder. & so far I worry what we see is what we’ll get. I gave people credit to do their research & make good responsible sound decisions. But has the education of the young folks failed them this much ? It seems common sense is not a factor anymore.At any rate I’ll vote Hillary this Tuesday & encourage all to do the same. Hillary is truley Americas only Hope! I don’t see even voteing at the general election if it is McCain or Obama, either one is the wrong person to support, & I won’t be responsible for that. I used to think I’d defect & vote McCain, but now I realize I don’t want that on my conscence either. This will be my last blog ever, as I will be out campaining for Hillary.
She is our best Hope. Vote Hillary ’08′ We Still Can & Yes She Can.
Posted by: georgie | February 29, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
Given the fact that the G.O.P. and Karl Rove are responsible for the Obama candidacy in the first place, he’s not a blank screen but one programmed to deprive the only democrat with a shot at taking the White House from doing so. Clinton has been way too restrained in revealing what she knows about this guy.
Obama’s principle speechwriter is Ben Rhodes, brother of Fox News VP David Rhodes, which should have tripped a flag immediately for anyone familiar with presidential election dirty tricks. Fox was the network that called Florida for Bush in 2000, after all the other stations had declared Gore the winner. Now Rove and company are scamming the public with a small-time corrupt legislator from Illinois, who’s peddled as a “movement” – the anti-war, anti-Washington insider, anti-machine politics candidate. There is no actual evidence to back up any of these claims. Obama’s long-time benefactor, Chicago slumlord Tony Rezko, goes on trial March 3rd for multiple felony counts of fraud. And once Clinton’s knocked out of the race (and hopefully she won’t be), we’ll be hearing about this dark side of Obama’s past all the way up to the November election. And then we’ll have another 4 years of neoconservative rule. For more on the Rove strategy, see the article I’ve posted at thecityedition.com or click on my screen name.
Posted by: Factcheck | February 29, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
Regarding “Present” Votes:
1. llinois legislators get attacked for their ‘present” votes nearly every campaign season. It’s always been a campaign gimmick. Members use the option to object to certain parts of a bill due to CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, even though they may agree with its overall purpose.
As a former Constitutional Law Professor, and a legislator who’s voted more than 4,000 (FOUR THOUSAND) times in the Illinois Senate, using the “present” vote argument is a stretch.
2. Sen. Obama was mocked for his stance on bombing Pakistan without prior notification if it was found that our enemies were there. The U.S. Government did EXACTLY THAT last week, killing Abu Laith al-Libi, a senior al-Qaeda commander.
3. In addition, Obama is the ONLY CANDIDATE whom, within the past year, has sponsored & passed legislation to honor our servicemen, such as The Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act.
…and this informatin is just from memory. There is much more substantiave information on Obama’s sound judgement and record of service to our country.
I am a white woman, 37 years old, who is proud and honored to support him.
Posted by: T.P. | February 29, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am
Unbelievable,
Did Bill Clinton lies about sex and Hillary ignored about that? I do think so. But it’s their personal affairs. What I care about is I have to pay triple each time I visit Gas Station right now in comparison to the years of 1992-2000 beside no more High Tech Jobs in the heart of Silicon Valley as well as other regions in the US.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am
Georgie,
Excellent post. Hope Hillary doesn’t give up and so do you.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
stock_craft,
Clinton’s lies today have nothing to do with what’s going on in her personal life. I could care less.
She is blatantly lying about her opponent, in the public sphere, and casting herself as the victim in order to win votes.
Just be honest.
Posted by: Unbelievable | February 29, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am
Unbelievable,
She has nothing to lie about her opponent. It’s a empty suit. Tell me what he has done for this country so far beside always skip the votes (160 times) or vote as “present” in the Senate. Also, I wonder what should he do and say if he was US Senator during the time US wants to start the war with Iraq?
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am
So stock_craft,
Let me get this right. You agree with Clinton that Obama assumed he had this race in the bag after Iowa. If you really believe that, then I have lost all hope of a civil discourse about this election.
Posted by: Unbelievable | February 29, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
Unbelievable,
We should focus in the main issues such as experience, problem solving skills. Talk to me is always cheap. It happen every where in my work place and yours.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am
stock_craft,
Does character not matter then? A leader has to instill confidence that they are acting from a principled center. I don’t like not being able to trust my leader.
Regarding experience and problem-solving, at least take a moment to learn about the bipartisan bills that Obama has co-sponsored, one at least with a Republican regarded as most as proabbly the most conservative in Congress.
Consensus-building is a function of problem-solving. My beef with Clinton is that instead of talking about solving problems, she talks about “fighting” problems. That implies a winner-take-all mentality that has gotten us nowhere since Bill Clinton lost Congress way back when.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with trying a different approach to legislation.
I do not believe Obama is a perfect person. Neither do I believe that Clinton is an evil person. I simply disagree with her positions and more recently, her campaign tactics, that belie a willingness to fight to “win,” as opposed to fighting to “lead.”
That is my perspective on the situation, and I am happy that I was able to cast a meaningful vote for Obama here in Wisconsin.
Posted by: Unbelievable | February 29, 2008, 6:08 am 6:08 am
Yes, and HRC is like an analog tv, about to be phased out.
Posted by: Entropy | February 29, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am
Referring to ones self as a “blank screen” is NOT a negative statement. It’s about the way Barak listens to people, rather than cramming his ideals down your throat. It’s about still waters running deep. It’s about being a good communicator. A good communicator will unconsciously “mimic” the body language of the person they are speaking with. It’s almost a dance and some people have two left feet. Notice: His face is open and interested when speaking one on one. No bug eyed, exaggerated head nodding like Hillary. His smile reaches his eyes. No phony face cracking grimace like Hillary. He also communicates with touch and it is not contrived or intrusive. Barak was raised with much love and respect I would say and seems to return it unconsciously. Sure he is everyman. So he listens. So he keeps his own council. He said “blank” but I think his reception is just fine. Better this “blank screen” that the “programming” we’ve been receiving.
Posted by: Evanna | February 29, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am
I have been saying Obama is an empty suit. He does not have a thought of his own. That’s why he has to always go second in the debates. I saw the picture where he is not putting his hand over his heart and the reason is he is in the front of a line with Hillary and two other people and he can not see what they are doing (putting their hands over their hearts).
Remember:
George Bush said: I am a uniter not a divider
George Bush said: I am a Washington outsider.
The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again expecting to get a different result. Smarten up Obama supporters; you are starting to appear to fall into that definition.
Posted by: carolina north | February 29, 2008, 6:32 am 6:32 am
Clinton is doing us a service…she is stanfding up to what every Congressperson knows, but will not confront….that Obama has not been doing his job as a Senator (90% absence from voting in latter qtr of 2007).
Secondly, he admitted in the Cleveland after Hillary called him on it, he was named to chair a sub-committtee of the Foreign Relations Committee on Jan 1, 2007, and then with the exception of calling for confirmation of 2 Ambassadors, NEVER HELD A COMMITTEE meeting! He replied that he was unable to hold meetings as he was working on his campaign!!!!
This I call the absolute ARROGANCE of PRESUMED POWER!!!! He has NO foreign affairs experience in his professional life, this was the perfect opportunity to orient himself to world affairs facing Congress. HE ABDICATED HIS RESPONSIBILITY………HE IS SO UNDERQUALIFIED FOR THE PRESIDENCY IT IS FRIGHTENING!
BOTTOM LINE: OBAMA HAS NOT BEEN DOING HIS JOB IN THE SENATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU HILLARY….we KNOW YOU are a Congressperson of achievement. Congrats also in being named by Forbes as one of the top 100 MOST POWERFUL WOMEN IN THE WORLD. The world knows it, let’s pray the American voters wake up and realize the American Idol personality game must end soon.
Posted by: Sister 1510 | February 29, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am
Unbelievable,
I respect your decision and wish I were wrong. But again and again, I will not vote for Mr. Obama even if he put Hillary in the same ticket in case he wins the primary. I don’t want to gamble my kid’s future for someone who don’t have a well known background and has no experience in public service. Usually, it will take a new grad 5 to 10 years to become productive. Don’t we have time for Mr. Obama learning the job of US President?
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am
Ok, now I don’t like her anymore. I loved Bill Clinton when he was president and I thought Hillary was smarter then this.
Posted by: JGer | February 29, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am
Ok, now I don’t like her anymore. I loved Bill Clinton when he was president and I thought Hillary was smarter then this.
Posted by: JGer | February 29, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am
Hillary will be out in few days.She will lose Texas. She only knows how to brag about her ’35 years experience’,the one who ‘starts from day one’..bla bla bla…the millionairess that cares for poor people but she and her husband filled their pockets with money from politics..they love poitics..it made them millionairs. She will be surprised when the final tally of votes in Texas..only white women between 40-60 who she is selling them her fancy story .
She is also a war monger..voted against ban on cluster bombs so she will not be in the way of Israel raining cities and town in Southern Lebanon. She will lose big time in the state of Texas. Now she is threatening to sue…anyway to win.That’s how she operates by smearing opponenet in the morning then smile and give him a hug in the afternoon..she is phony.
Posted by: Thunder | February 29, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am
stock_craft,
Respect is all that I have asked for in this dialogue, and I appreciate receiving yours. I also respect your concerns about an “unknown” taking leadership of our country. It’s not like we haven’t done it before and succeeded gracefully. Listen, I’m a middle-aged, African American woman who started this campaign supporting Joe Biden.
I had to spend time getting to know the remaining candidates once he dropped out. And for me, the more I got to know Sen. Obama, the more I felt he would be the right choice. It’s my choice, simple as that, and I respect yours.
We will see how it all shakes out in the end.
Thanks for returning this to a civil conversation.
Posted by: Unbelievable | February 29, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
Unbelievable,
Voting for Hillary might cost my job because I work for a public work that Bill Clinton did not care the most in the past. However, I will try the best to do my part whatever I think is right and so do you.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 29, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
The repb issued 2000 subpeonas and spent 40 million to try and get the Clintons to no avail.She has never been charge with any wrong doings or spent a day in prison.All her negatives are Repb talking point uttered over and over.I’m an ex Repb,there is an undying hatred for the Clintons because he denyed Bush his second term.Lets hear facts not as Obama said words.
Posted by: roncraw | February 29, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
The repb issued 2000 subpeonas and spent 40 million to try and get the Clintons to no avail.She has never been charge with any wrong doings or spent a day in prison.All her negatives are Repb talking point uttered over and over.I’m an ex Repb,there is an undying hatred for the Clintons because he denyed Bush his second term.Lets hear facts not as Obama said words.
Posted by: roncraw | February 29, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
Hillary is tough, strong and a fighter and that type of leadership is what we will need in the White House. She’s been under seige from the Republicans her whole life. She’s taken everything they’ve thrown at her at thrown it back twice as hard. Obama, on the other hand, seems to think that holding hands and singing “Kumbaya” will beat the Repubican attack. Wait till the Rove/Republican machine really goes to work on him. They will tear him apart because he has never faced anything like that. The best candidate to win back the White House is Hillary. If Obama is the nominee, come November you can say hello to President McCain.
Posted by: Jayne | February 29, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
If Obama describes himself as a blank screen, then that’s what he is. It makes perfect sense. It’s the people (his supporters) projecting onto him what they want him to be – Jesus, Messiah, Moses, Mohammed, Elijah, MLK, ….
You get the picture.
I just hope that he turns out to be what they think he is.
Posted by: Sam1 | February 29, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
This is the politics we’re in for if she gets into office:
While Hillary Clinton battles Barack Obama on the campaign trail, a judge in Los Angeles is quietly preparing to set a trial date in a $17 million fraud suit that aims to expose an alleged culture of widespread corruption by the Clintons and the Democratic Party.
At the conclusion of a hearing tomorrow morning before California Superior Court Judge Aurelio N. Munoz, lawyers for Hollywood mogul Peter F. Paul will begin seeking sworn testimony from all three Clintons – Bill, Hillary and Chelsea – along with top Democratic Party leaders and A-list celebrities, including Barbra Streisand, John Travolta, Brad Pitt and Cher.
Paul’s team hopes for a trial in October. The Clintons’ longtime lawyer David Kendall, who will attend the hearing, has declined comment on the suit.
The Clintons have tried to dismiss the case, but the California Supreme Court, in 2004, upheld a lower-court decision to deny the motion.
Bill Clinton, according to the complaint, promised to promote Paul’s Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife’s 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for a Hollywood gala and fundraiser.
The Clintons’ legal counsel has denied the former president made any deal with Paul. But Paul attorney Colette Wilson told WND there are witnesses who say it was common knowledge at Stan Lee Media that Bill Clinton was preparing to be a rainmaker for the company after he left office.
Paul claims former Vice President Al Gore, former Democratic Party chairman Ed Rendell and Clinton presidential campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe also are among the people who can confirm Paul engaged in the deal.
Posted by: Carol | February 29, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
It’s not the least bit surprising to me that people use Barack Obama’s middle name against him.
Or that they so vehemently attack him.
What’s really surprising to me, is that he’s managed to get this far in the race. NOT because he’s not deserving of our support. but because people are SOO unbelievably fearful. (as well as Vapid, and ignorant, i.e. LISA) If you can’t tell how intelligent, insightful,wise, and committed to the greater good Obama is, then it is because you just don’t Want to see it. period. Wanting Hillary to be president as I once did is fine, but there is no denying the great character,and inspiration that is Barack (Yes I can take it- HUSSEIN) Obama. do people not believe him when he denounces Farackan? He is NOT a muslim. Do you really think he’s lying when he says Israel’s security is sacrosanct?? What has happened to people? And by the way, I looked up the word DENOUNCE. it’s exponentially more powerful a word than REJECT. I was a HRC supporter up until the debate when she accused obama of plagiarism, and then proceeded to give a completely plagiarized closing statement. That was the end of my support for Senator Clinton. Wake up people, not only can
we afford to roll the dice, we can’t afford NOT to.
Posted by: Fortnoy Amestoy | February 29, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
Hillary is nothing but a mouth full of lies.
She talks about children should not be left hungry,homeless and acts as if she is the mother of humanity..but she supports cluster bombs,and wars that kills and maimes children.
She has been silent about starving the Palestinians in Gaza,with no fuel ,and no medicine in hospitals..why is she silent about this?
She is now taking advise from Secretary of States Madline Albright, who thougt that the sanction which killed half a million Iraqi children by Clinton adminstration is as Albright put it’was worth it’ on CBS 60 minutes.
Did Hillary say anything about Lebanese children killed by cluster bombs..of course not.
She will not anger her backers from AIPAC who made her senator to begin with, in a state she never lived in.
She can talk all day about humanity but her record is something different.
She is a ‘bully’ and power hungery politician and nothing else.
She keeps repeating that she will pick up the phone at 3:00 a.m. in the W.House to prove that she is more qualified.
What makes her think that Obama will not pick up the phone at 3:00 a.m?
May be she learned to pick up the phone at 3:00 a.m. when Clinton was busy downstairs in the library with Monica.
Posted by: Thunder | February 29, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
…And finally, did any of you Barack Obama bashers actually READ The Audacity of Hope?
I’m quite sure you didn’t. If you did, what you’d discover, is that Obama, is clear, level headed, feet on the ground, common sensical human being.
a person who tries to respect points of view that might differ from his own. a person who has that uncanny ability to bring people of different points of view together, and align them toward a common purpose, of better understanding. He’s not perfect, and he’s hardly the messiah, but he’s so far and away the best there is today. READ his book, and you will find a reasonable and grounded person, who has a very impressive knowledge and respect for U.S. history.
Posted by: Fortnoy Amestoy | February 29, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
I see a lot of non-facts posted in the blogs and here. The passion is great! But some people are posting smart and some are not because most people are being fooled by the biased coverage by the MSM. Even the candidates themselves, mislead the voters in some way. Such is the nature of political campaigns. But we don’t have to be lemmings!
Here is your chance to fight back and educate yourself… get the real facts and start posting smart! Search “vote smart” to find a single website resource, unbiased, independent of the MSM, with facts about all the candidates regardless of party – bios, accomplishments, interest group ratings, vote records, campaign funding sources, and more.
Posted by: DCVoter | February 29, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Waaah, waaah, waaah! And so it begins as we all knew it would.
“LAREDO, Texas – Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign has raised the possibility of a challenge to Texas’ primary and caucus rules just days before the contest, drawing a warning against legal action from the state’s Democratic Party.”
Could she bow out with a modicum of grace and dignity intact? Of course not!
“The letter also noted that many of Clinton’s senior campaign advisers in Texas had helped to develop the rules governing the state’s caucus system. A Texas party official also noted that former President Clinton won the state’s caucuses in 1992 and 1996 following the same rules.”
She only cares about winning at any cost, even at the expense of this thrilling,revolutionary Democratic movement we are seeing! Finally the people are waking up to take back their country and THIS is her main concern?!
Please Hillary, just shut up and go away already! I am ashamed to share your gender.
Posted by: Evanna | February 29, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Thank you DCVOTER
Posted by: Fortnoy Amestoy | February 29, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
THANK YOU EVANNA
as am I
Posted by: fortnoy Amestoy | February 29, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
AMERICA IT’S TIME TO BE REALISTIC DON’T LEAVE IT TO CHANCES OR WE WILL RECEIVE ANOTHER BLOW!
VOTE FOR SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON WHO OFFERS SOLUTION!!!
Posted by: Sam Lim | February 29, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
I have to respectfully disagree (sound familiar?) with the assessment that Obama has been “created” by the media.
My children and I had lived entirely WITHOUT cable TV for 6 years. I just re-married in Sept. ’07 and have now been watching the debates, and LOST : ) since Jan. ’08. So of the past 6 years I have been exposed to a few HOURS of the media. My main source for news is NPR.
I denounce, (a STRONGER word than REJECT) the media as a corporate tool in general, with very few exceptions. I believe in books and of course the internet. Television has little to offer the masses except to lull them to sleep while the Govt. enslaves us all.
I am attracted to Obama and repelled by Hillary on a purely human level. No one can say I’ve been “programmed” by the mass media since I’ve not been exposed until very recently.
I actually liked Kucinich. Was I swept away by his debonair ways or his animal sex appeal I wonder? Was I programmed?! (: O
To draw such comparisons is an overt simplification. And correct me if I’m mistaken, but isn’t Jimmy Carter a globally respected diplomat now?
Posted by: Evanna | February 29, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
One more thing: Clooneys & Oprahs endorsement of Obama move me not one whit. Utter tripe. Unlike perhaps 90% of people in this country, I do not spasm with glee at the recounting of the latest “Idol” episode, or froth at the latest Britney bashing. FOX news may as well not exist for me.
Yes, I am a Public Radio Snob and proud of it. I am not spoon fed either my entertainment or the issues.
The willful apathy of the masses that threatens to doom our Democracy, is exactly what Barak hopes to combat as a true intellectual and a LEADER of a TRULY FREE nation should.
Posted by: Evanna | February 29, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Yes, Jimmy Carter is a globally respected diplomat NOW, so there’s definitely hope for Obama sometime IN TH EFUTURE. The point was that he’s not ready to be president NOW.
Posted by: Peter Thorogood | February 29, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Well, I’m a woman and I don’t feel one bit sorry for Hillary. In fact, I grow more and more embarrassed by and for her the longer this primary season drags on. She chose to campaign the way she has, she selected the people working for her and she has set the tone of her campaign. I’m disgusted.
Posted by: Elanor | February 29, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
It seems that some of you have done your homework and done it well, others fling mud because that’s all you have because, I’m grasping at straws here, you haven’t done your homework and instead parrot the same old sad words that are designed to offend, now who’s being divisive? Haven’t you learned that facts speak for themselves and need no one to defend them…they are self-evident…So before slinging mud and generally disparaging words, try doing your homework. And ask yourself, how do I know what I’m saying is accurate? Of course, if you’re not interesting in facts, then I guess you’ll just continue on as you are…without being open to “real change” rather than superficial change without merit.
Posted by: ProfessorB | February 29, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
I’m an independent. So I researched the candidates. For those who say Barack lacks substance, you’re a blank screen. The man is a leader, the type that come around once in a lifetime. America would be foolish to elect anyone else.
I’m voting for the man and volunteering to elect him president.
Posted by: Charlie | February 29, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Hillary! Go Girl! We are rootin’ for you! Yes, we agree, the real change would be a ‘woman president’. We know you can do the job, ’cause you have been tried & tested. Go Girl! Go Girl!!
Posted by: Jovis | February 29, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Obama must be flattered that Hillary Clinton has been reading his book. I can only stop to wonder what her intentions were. And, any person lame or sane would also wonder on what context did Obama refer to himself as a blank screen
Posted by: Hillary Donnovan | February 29, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Obama is a uniter, who prides himself on being strong on civil rights and equality. Really? Then can someone explain to me why he was ACTIVLY INVOLVED for over TWENTY YEARS in a close personal and religious relationship with a church and minister who PRAISE and PREACH Farrakan’s prejudiced and intolerant views?! Maybe that’s the reason Obama freaked out when Farrakan “endorsed” him. I know all you Obama supporters won’t just take my word for it.
Also notice how the mainstream media is conveniently ignoring this story as well. If Hillary had spent twenty years involved with a church that preached white supremacy it would be front page news everywhere… proof again that no one is allowed to say anything negative about Barack Obama!
Posted by: Starkadder | February 29, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I believe the reference to a blank screen is Obama’s way of saying that he listens and does not make judgement, therefore he allows people to project their own image of him rather than try to create an image for them. Its a ego transcedence that allows us to see ourselves within him. I think people like Mahatma Gahndi did the same thing.
So..its a compliment Hillary.
Posted by: Tom Allen | February 29, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
well… if you research more on Obama you will find his mediocre political career in Chicago and maybe will get to know his allies. Obama appeals to those who are insecure and inferior. those people who get the pleasure of having someone who rise up from the bottom and become a star. they identified with him because they feel that he is their idol. Truly, he is a blank screen, full of speeched without substance. Hillary appeals to women who are courageous, rightfully arrogasnt because they know where to stand and be firm. women who are weak do not identified to Hillary because it feels them insecure and defines their vulnerability. those who speak their mind and firm have Hillary as their idol.
Going back to Obama, literally, his face is blank everytime he look at Hillary during debates. maybe because he could sense his limitations .
Posted by: ds | March 1, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
God help us all if Hillary or Obama wins the White House. What we need is a balance…If congress remains Democrat, we need a republican as president.
Posted by: JIm | March 1, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am
I’M MALE, AS A MALAYSIAN INDIAN HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING UP THIS AMERICAN ELECTION.THINGS SEEMS TO ME VERY STRANGE.BLACKS SUPPORT BARACK OBAMA.BUT I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPEN TO THE WHITE WOMEN’S,THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTING CLINTON.BUT THE AMERICAN WOMEN GO TO THE STREETS AND DEMONSTRATE FOR WOMEN RIGHTS AND DEMONSTRATING WOMENS ARE DISCRIMINATED ALL OVER THE WORLD.YET IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY WHEN A WOMEN WANTS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,THEY DIDNT WANT TO SUPPORT HER.AFTERALL CLINTON IS NOT THAT WORSE.MALE PRESIDENT DOES LOT OF MISTAKES YET THE AMERICAN WOMENS STILL PREFER MALES TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT,VERY STRANGE.
OK NOW I’M COMING TO OBAMA.HE SAYS CLINTON SUPPORT AMERICAN INVASION AGAINST IRAQ,AND HE WERE WITHDRAW AMERICAN TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.AND AT THE SAME TIME HE WANTS TO ATTACK PAKISTAN IF THE PAKISTAN GOVERMENT NEVER TAKE ANY ACTION AGAINST AL-QUEDA.LIKE THAT HOW MANY MORE COUNTRIES OBAMA WANT TO ATTACK IF THEY NEVER AGGREE WITH AMERICA,EXAMPLE:NORTH KOREA,BURMA,IRAN,SYRIA AND THE LIST GOES ON.WHEN HE SAYS HE WANTS TO WITHDRAW TROOPS FROM IRAQ,HE IS SAYING THAT HE WANTS TO PUT A FULL STOP FOR ALL THE BLOODSHED,AND HE PREFER TO DEAL WITH A DEPLOMATIC WAY AND SOLVE THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES.AND ON THE OTHER HAND HE WANTS TO ATTACK AL-QUEDA CAMPS IN PAKISTAN WITHOUT THE GOVERMENT’S CONCERN AND START AMOTHER BLOODSHED.AT ONE TIME OBAMA SAYS HE WANTS TO WITHDRAW FROM WAR AND ANOTHER TIME HE WANT TO ATTACK PAKISTAN.HE IS MOTHING MORE THAN THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH JR,UNTIL NOW BUSH CANNOT GIVE A CONCRETE REASON FOR INVADING IRAQ.IF OBAMA COMES AS A PRESIDENT THEN THEY WERE BE WAR ALL THE WORLD.YES IT’S GOOD TO MAKE CHANGES BUT IF YOU THINK YOU CAN CHANGE THE PRESENT SYSTEM IN AMERICA AND AROUND THE WORLD, WITHOUT FIGHT/WAR,NO WAY, WE HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT IN OUR DREAM WORLD.
I’M CALLING YOU AMERICAN PEOPLE ,PLEASE THINK.ELECTING AMERICA’S PRESIDENT IS NOT ONLY AMERICAN ISSUE,BUT IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE WORLD.THAT IS WHY THE WHOLEWORLD IS EXPECTING A RIGHT CANDIDATE TO BE THE PRESIDENT.
Posted by: VANAN | March 1, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
Texas and Ohio will come through for America and vote for the best qualified candidate: Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Obama isn’t ready to be President. These people are voting for Tiger Woods. This is what happens when people have access to 24 hour television. Eventually they can’t distinguish between show business and reality.
Posted by: Karen | March 1, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
I wanted to clarify some of the comments that have been made against Barack.
His pastor/spiritual mentor’s relationship with the leader of the Nation of Islam can hardly be linked to Barack Obama, but even if it was, I suspect he’s admired because of his work exposing racism, not because of any other factor. His statement that the Catholics “conspired” with the Nazis against the Jews (and that this is a bad thing) is true. The pope did remain silent fearing retribution for Catholics in Germany. In any case, Barack has renounced his endorsement.
2. He voted “Present” on a bill in the *Illinois* state legislature as you described because it was unconstitutional. Local zoning ordinances had to be in place, not an act of the legislature. He said in the debate that he was against sex shops being near schools.
3. He has apologized for the “boneheaded mistake” of Reico, and given back the money.
Posted by: Sam | March 1, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Here is an example of what Obama supporters ignore: Obama claims to have a million contributions of MOSTLEY small donations of $5, $10, $25 amounts. True enough; 90% of his campaign contributions are in this range. What you never hear is that they only represent 45% of his overall contributions. That means that 55% OF THE TOTAL came from the other 10%, i.e. corporate money and 527′s. Wake up you dunderheads! Obama is a politician, same as any other. Believe what you want, but verify.
Posted by: bob crawford | March 2, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
The Better Government Association in Illinois speaks out against corruption.
They say Senator Obama is not candid about his long relationship to Rezko. He brought that house from Rezko while Rezko was under investigation. I don’t believe that was good judgement.
Posted by: Jeffery Marshall | March 2, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
Hillary has not identified ONE plan for the advancement of women. Cindy McCain has absolutely nothing to say about the matter, however, Michelle Obama has identified her platform as work / home balance for all women. Barack is a positive role model of what a single mother can be, he’s actually lived it! Ask yourselves, who is REALLY representing us???
Posted by: cadgirl | March 2, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
Hillary,
My question to you is, WHERE ARE YOUR SPECIFICS? I’ve followed everyone of your speeches and have yey to hear you say anything specific? “In my specific plan,”…”I have set forth a detailed specific plan,”…”In my plan I talk about specific details…?”
Health Care:
How are you planning to mandate my income to make me pay for Health Care? What if I don’t want to be forced into a mandatory (mandated) health care plan? I can’t get through to the IRS to answer the phone, How do I get through to whatever agency will be responsible for enforcing your mandate when I need to OPT Out? What will the fines be? Will you tie them to my assets?
Foriegn Policy:
You give a litnay of places you’e visited as the First Lady, “and made speeches!” By what incumbent posistion did you really make any changes…”Are you telling me that your “WORDS” persuaded these leaders to make change? No that would make you a hipocrit today.
Economics:
What sisde do you really stand for? In Ohio you say “NAFTA is BAD!”…”In New York you say NAFTA is good!”…BTW Upper New York would argue that it was really a good thing!” But more importantly…”Why did you change your stance on NAFTA shortly after leaving the state of OHIO when you landed in TEXAS?
IRAQ
Your vote in the Senate is your own…If you didn’t agree with the War, why didn’t you vote against it? Isn’t that what you are saying to people, “that this is your chance to stand up and vote for what you believe in?”
I’m confused?
Posted by: Hebrew 11 | March 2, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
What Senator Obama said, and I quote from his book on page 11 of “The Audacity of Hope” (published in 2006):
“Undoubtedly, some of these views will get me in trouble. I am new enough on the national political scene that I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not all, of them.”
If Senator Clinton is going to try to use Senator Obama’s own words against him, the least she can do is quote him correctly and then make the correct translation.
His own words make an entirely different statement and I resent it when people try to take a quote and mangle the wording and translation and then use it out of context. SHAME ON YOU SENATOR CLINTON!
Read the book Senator Clinton and you might learn something. And if you need help translating and understanding Senator Obama’s words accurately, I am happy to help.
Posted by: Kasha | March 2, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
It’s funny that when we get back to the issues…The Clinton campaign doesn’t really have anymore substance:
Let’s See What the Experts Say!
Health Care:
95% similar
5% difference: Unmandated vs Patial Mandated (for children)
Hmmmm…Must be some substance there in order to make the comaprison. You make the call?
Education:
100% Get rid of the No Child Left Behind
100% Early childcare investment
100%
Difference:
Obama:
Increase teachers salary
Focused on Early Chilhood
$4000 earned credits in return for re-investing in programs for America.
Clinton: haven’t heard of dollars (No specifics); however, she stated she forgive student loans? “Need specifics on the dollar amount?” How much are you willing to forgive? Who pays for it…the tax payers? Why of course!
Foreign Policy:
Obama:
Father: Kenyan, Mother: White, born in Hawaii, raised in Kenya, Indonesia and America. Met with foriegn dignataries.
Opposed to Iraq war and still does.
Clinton: Met with digitaries of Foriegn countries during Husbands Presidency as First Lady in 1992-2001.
Voted for Iraq war and now opposes it
Critics and Experts agree that that is no real differences in each of their plans; however, there is a fundalmental difference in thier character!
Posted by: Hebrew 11 | March 2, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Why is it that we can’t remember how things were when we had the Clintons. We talk of them and the things they did, I as an African American can truly say that they did nothing for me and I found it degrating to call him the first black President. Now all we hear is talk about Obama’s name and religion. We all have the name that our parents gave us and you can’t judge someone because of it. Talking about scare tactic, they use his name to link him to the terrorist, she plays on the women’s emotions, I say how can I vote for her. I for one will vote for Obama The Clintons were yesterday and Obama is for tomorrow and the future. A vote for Clinton is a vote for takeing a step backward, and we need to go foward.
Posted by: Debra May | March 2, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
I love it how people say that the only reason I could support Obama is because he is a celebrity. I have news for you, I actually know his views, and I like them, and could care less about his “celebrity” status. Did you all seriously fall down the stupid tree and break every damn branch?
Everyone is so freaking closeminded and biased towards their own beliefs, even I am.
Posted by: Scott | March 2, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Obama is a nice guy and if he is the nominee I’ll consider voting for him, however I was disappointed when he broke his campaign promise about using public financing. He is also extremely inexperienced and vulnerable to mudslinging. Finally,his two years in the senate have not given him the channels to get anything done, nor the opportunity to prove he can do anything. Against Obama, I think McCain will win in a mudslide. A better ticket is Clinton/Obama.
Posted by: Chris Vuille | March 5, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Blank Screen explains it perfectly.
Posted by: Paul | August 2, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm